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- Subject: Gambas and Wayland
- From: Benoît Minisini <benoit.minisini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 18:29:08 +0200
- To: Gambas Mailing List <user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi,I just read that page, named "Think twice before abandoning X11. Wayland breaks everything!".
https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277As you may know, Gambas tries to create an uniform API for accessing GUI toolkits, i.e. Qt and GTK+ at the moment.
I had to introduce in both of them some sort of specific sub-components to handle the difference between X11 and Wayland: gb.qt6.wayland, gb.qt6.x11, gb.gtk3.wayland, and so on...
And by making these components, I noticed that a lot of things are not implemented in Wayland.
At the beginning, I thought these missing features will be implemented in the future, that they were not there because of more prioritary things to do first.
But then I noticed that Wayland has now the same age than Xorg had when the development of Wayland started.
And I read the document I mentioned at the beginning of the mail.Now I'm afraid that Wayland will never be fixed, and will be imposed by force to the user. The exact contrary of the spirit of free software.
And I even not talking about the politic drama around the XLibre fork.I don't want to spend hours of coding just to try to workaround Wayland limitations and the resulting incompatibilities between each Wayland window manager implementations and their "desktop portal thing", whereas on X11 all window managers speaks the same language.
There are some bad designs too in some of X11 protocols, but why not just fixing them?
What do you think? -- Benoît Minisini.
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