Re: Gambas and Wayland

[gbWilly <gbWilly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

gbWilly

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On Wednesday, July 30th, 2025 at 18:29, Benoît Minisini <benoit.minisini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I just read that page, named "Think twice before abandoning X11. Wayland
> breaks everything!".
> 
> https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277
> 
> As you may know, Gambas tries to create an uniform API for accessing GUI
> toolkits, i.e. Qt and GTK+ at the moment.
> 
> I had to introduce in both of them some sort of specific sub-components
> to handle the difference between X11 and Wayland: gb.qt6.wayland,
> gb.qt6.x11, gb.gtk3.wayland, and so on...
> 
> And by making these components, I noticed that a lot of things are not
> implemented in Wayland.
> 
> At the beginning, I thought these missing features will be implemented
> in the future, that they were not there because of more prioritary
> things to do first.
> 
> But then I noticed that Wayland has now the same age than Xorg had when
> the development of Wayland started.
> 
> And I read the document I mentioned at the beginning of the mail.
> 
> Now I'm afraid that Wayland will never be fixed, and will be imposed by
> force to the user. The exact contrary of the spirit of free software.
> 
> And I even not talking about the politic drama around the XLibre fork.
> 
> I don't want to spend hours of coding just to try to workaround Wayland
> limitations and the resulting incompatibilities between each Wayland
> window manager implementations and their "desktop portal thing", whereas
> on X11 all window managers speaks the same language.
> 
> There are some bad designs too in some of X11 protocols, but why not
> just fixing them?
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> --
> Benoît Minisini.

Corporate interests taking over the free software community, in the same manner that it is happening in all aspects of society. The trojan horse 'comfort, easy, time conserving and other blablabla' is traded of for literally the loss of privacy, possibilities and thus also choices.

Haven't you noticed how all made nowadays is inferior to what used to be made 40-50 years ago, just as commercial model to ensure ever bigger profits for the few. Haven't you noticed how our governments are transforming to censorship and suppression supporters? You might wonder who they actually serve, not the people, that's for sure.

You don't need a tin foil to see what is going on, just some common sense and the courage to face it.

It is systematic and will not go away through passive waiting for change...

gbWilly