[Gambas-user] A curious thing happens with translations.

[Martin]

Hello, first of all, I tell you that I am very happy with Gambas3 IDE. I 
give my opinion as a developer and user, I try to be constructive and it 
is not my intention to criticize, I just try that some small details 
change to make the user experience better. I am replying in bold so you 
don't confuse the paragraphs.
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/You must define the default language of your project in the project 
property dialog to "Spanish (common)"./
*Why? the system is es_ES but the project is english EEUU*

/By default, this default language is computed from your current 
localization./
*Why? it is arbitrary, I think*

/The Gambas IDE has an internal list of supported languages. Not all 
localization are supported./
*ok, I know that, but it is not the matter of this email.*

/So, for example, you have "es" for common Spanish, and "es_ES" for 
Spanish from Spain. So the default language is "es_ES" (Spanish from 
Spain) on your computer, not the common spain you want./

*In this case i mus change the whole system language for porgram some 
Gambas3 project that have english as primary language. That is not fun 
neither practical.**
**Usually i program in two scenarios, Spanish and English. So linking 
the gambas project to the system language does not seem to me an optimal 
way to do it since the same developer can participate in projects of 
different base languages.*


/But "fr" is for French from France (it is assumed to be the "common" 
french), and there is no "fr_FR".  So in French, the default language is 
directly "fr"./
*Sory but that is not correct, French for France is fr_FR not just fr, 
it is for french neutral, same way that "es" that is the spanish neutral.**
**Sample:**
*

*French (Belgium)    fr_BE**
**French (Canada)    fr_CA**
**French (France)    fr_FR**
**French (Luxembourg)    fr_LU**
**French (Switzerland)    fr_CH**
**French    fr*

*Same for English, Spanish, etc.*

*At the average level of Gambas3 programs, in practice, have not sense 
translate many Spanish versions, like I assume some developer that 
programs in english as base not translate to fr_FR, fr_CA, fr_BE his 
programs right?**
**Again, I think the default version of any language must be the neutral 
version. Same you do in french that is not utilize fr_FR but yes fr**
**Please if is possible, change the behavior for Spanish like in French*

Regards,

Martín.

El 4/5/21 a las 8:29, Benoît Minisini escribió:
> Le 04/05/2021 à 00:43, Martin a écrit :
>> A curious thing happens with translations.
>> My system is in es_ES but the program to translate is in US English.
>> Well, when I open the translation dialog the first thing that appears 
>> is the source language by default and the target language to 
>> translate is es_ES, well, I make the translation to Spanish and then 
>> I add French from France and I translate it too, but in the directory 
>> appear es_ES.po and fr.po.
>> Why it is not fr_FR.po? or if not why it is not es.po?
>> Is it because my system is es_ES? Does someone who has fr_FR system 
>> if he translates from English something similar happens to him?
>> I think it is either all languages with localization or without 
>> localization.
>> I prefer that by default the IDE generates files without localization 
>> because in the case of Spanish there are many variants.
>> Then if you want to create a specific localization you can do it 
>> manually.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Martín
>>
>>
>>
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>
> You must define the default language of your project in the project 
> property dialog to "Spanish (common)".
>
> By default, this default language is computed from your current 
> localization.
>
> The Gambas IDE has an internal list of supported languages. Not all 
> localization are supported.
>
> So, for example, you have "es" for common Spanish, and "es_ES" for 
> Spanish from Spain. So the default language is "es_ES" (Spanish from 
> Spain) on your computer, not the common spain you want.
>
> But "fr" is for French from France (it is assumed to be the "common" 
> french), and there is no "fr_FR".  So in French, the default language 
> is directly "fr".
>
> Regards,
>
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