[Gambas-user] External library location

Wed Sep 5 15:59:22 CEST 2018

Hi Jussi,
your motivations are clear and mine are also clear.
I think we are free to do as we please.
And, like I just told Hans, should always be clear that these are just
small demonstration examples, not working programs.

Regards
Gianluigi

Il giorno mer 5 set 2018 alle ore 14:40 Jussi Lahtinen <
jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Sure, for temporary tests /tmp is OK. My point was, if you cannot install
> executables in lib folder, then it's the .local folder.
> Btw it's not only Debian manual, but with quick googling also ArchWiki and
> Red Hat STIG (Security Technical Implementation Guide).
> There are also a lot of bug reports from putting executables in /tmp.
>
> Jussi
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:24 AM Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to clarify my thinking in this absurd "querelle" about the
>> tmp folder.
>> We are (+/-) programmers and we do a lot of testing.
>> If the folders created by our tests all end up in the home folder, maybe
>> hidden, after a while the folder would be a delirium.
>> I think it's a good suggestion to send our tests to a folder that really
>> exists in all filesystems and where the code can be tested (by everyone,
>> except those who have an administrator who has read the Debian manual :-) )
>> and that after while is cleaned up, I would recommend everyone to adopt
>> this system.
>> I don't think anyone can use this folder instead of User.Home &/ "." &
>> Application.Name.
>> I also add this, when, for help, we send our code to other programmers,
>> if the code provides for the creation of a folder, it is good education to
>> create it in tmp.
>>
>> Regards
>> Gianluigi
>>
>> Il giorno mar 4 set 2018 alle ore 23:54 Jussi Lahtinen <
>> jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Of course, but example Debian manual recommends mounting /tmp with
>>> noexec.
>>>
>>> Jussi
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:39 AM Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As far as I know tmp is a directory open to the world.
>>>> In all unix filesystems, this is the default setting: drwxrwxrwt.
>>>> That said, the administrator is free to do what he wants.
>>>>
>>>> Regards & Goodnight
>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>
>>>> Il giorno mar 4 set 2018 alle ore 23:12 Jussi Lahtinen <
>>>> jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, tmp is short for temporary, but as I said, it doesn't necessarily
>>>>> have execution permissions. Thus it should be used only for temporary data,
>>>>> not for executables.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:36 PM Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jussi,
>>>>>> what you say about /tmp doesn't convince me and I don't know.
>>>>>> I think it's normal to use /tmp for examples, so it doesn't get dirty
>>>>>> on the filesystem.
>>>>>> There are many programs that "park" their temporary files in tmp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il giorno mar 4 set 2018 alle ore 21:18 Jussi Lahtinen <
>>>>>> jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using library keyword is good idea, but using /tmp is not, because
>>>>>>> in some systems it doesn't have executing permissions.
>>>>>>> "/home/<user>/.local/" is better option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:17 PM Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A link to what writes vuott, he of these things is master.
>>>>>>>> http://www.gambas-it.org/smf/index.php?topic=6543.msg44330#msg44330
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Il giorno mar 4 set 2018 alle ore 19:12 Gianluigi <
>>>>>>>> bagonergi at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is actually explained.
>>>>>>>>> However if the question is "I can indicate the Data folder with
>>>>>>>>> Application.Path" the answer is as always *no*.
>>>>>>>>> Copy the library from Data to a real folder such as */tmp* as
>>>>>>>>> explained in a lesson.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Il giorno mar 4 set 2018 alle ore 17:53 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <
>>>>>>>>> mckaygerhard at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> err no one of the links answer the question of Martin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> he ask for path not "how to implement"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i research at the two links and the wiki, *and (apart of the
>>>>>>>>>> very dense redaction without separations pauses or  paragraphs) *there's
>>>>>>>>>> no such related info about path loading of so external libraryes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>>>>>>>>>> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2018-09-04 9:36 GMT-04:00 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly, I don't know how to do it because I don't know C, but
>>>>>>>>>>> here [0] is explained how to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>>>>>> [0] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/extern
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gambas-it.org/wiki/index.php?title=Guide_della_comunit%C3%A0#Interfacciare_Gambas_con_librerie_dinamiche_esterne_.so
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno mar 4 set 2018 alle ore 14:53 Martin Cristia <
>>>>>>>>>>> tercoide at hotmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is possible to use a .so file located at Application.path
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>> usr/lib/ ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How to set that up?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Saludos
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ing. Martin P Cristia
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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