[Gambas-user] OH NO - not this ? again...

[mikeB]

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Just to clarify a few questions that were presented in your MUCH 
APPRECIATED answers:

* when try to install the deb file on a virgin Mint 8.1 puter = the 
installer starts its "thing"

then returns an error message saying

"ERROR: Dependency is not satisfied: gambas3-runtime(>=3.10).


After more research found a cmd line that says will update the runtime files

(which would be GREAT if it actually worked ;-( as expected by a very 
new Linux user.

"sudo apt-get install gambas3-runtime"

the terminal return =

mikeb at ...3685... ~ $ sudo apt-get install gambas3-runtime
[sudo] password for mikeb:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
gambas3-runtime is already the newest version (3.8.4-2ubuntu3.1).
gambas3-runtime set to manually installed.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 325 not upgraded.
mikeb at ...3685... ~ $

Notice that it says "newest version 3.8.4-2 when at the same time

the installer error reports needs " gambas3-runtime(.=3.10)"

yep.. very confusing for me anyway.

Thank you for your support,

mikeB


PS: before I upgraded to v10 from v8 the install of gambas apps seemed 
to go as expected -

I as well as several of my beta testers had no problem: the install did 
however find a couple

files that it needed but installed them automatically (after confirm to 
do so).

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On 09/02/2017 08:55 AM, Benoît Minisini via Gambas-user wrote:
> Le 02/09/2017 à 16:10, T Lee Davidson a écrit :
>> On 09/02/2017 08:03 AM, Benoît Minisini via Gambas-user wrote:
>>> Le 02/09/2017 à 11:35, Fernando Cabral a écrit :
>>>> Myself? I'd be benefited with a comprehensive answer to this quest. 
>>>> To this
>>>> moment I have not been able to create a package that, by itself, 
>>>> would work
>>>> in a new machine. Up to now, the solution I have found is no 
>>>> solution at
>>>> all: I install the whole gambas package and then copy the source 
>>>> directory.
>>>>
>>>> It would be great to know what is the right thing to do.
>>>>
>>>> - fernando
>>>>
>>>> 2017-09-01 17:18 GMT-03:00 mikeB <mikeB at ...3673...>:
>>>>
>>>>> eGreetings - The World of Gambas,
>>>>>
>>>>> Most likely most of you will be thinking "OH NO - not this subject 
>>>>> again"
>>>>> but I'm sure I'm not the only one trying to switch from vb6(M$) to 
>>>>> Gambas
>>>>> (Linux freedom)
>>>>> that after many hours of research - is very confused on what is 
>>>>> required
>>>>> to create/ re-distribute
>>>>> an install file (e.g. xxx.deb).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm finding that this problem is harder to understand/ solve then the
>>>>> codling diff (vb6 vs Gambas).
>>>>> Maybe, surely your advice will help many others ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> So here goes - my newbie questions:
>>>>> * are the Gambas runtime files most always backward compatible?
>>>>>
>>>>> * if so = why doesn't the "MAKE > Installation package" function
>>>>> automatically include them?
>>>>>  From my testing it does not - get install error "Can not install 
>>>>> - "Gambas
>>>>> runtime files missing blah, blah.."
>>>>>
>>>>> Not a criticism but only a question - there most likely is a good 
>>>>> reason?
>>>>>
>>>>> * Is there somewhere/ someone that creates/ offers the current 
>>>>> runtime
>>>>> files for download as a setup (e.g. Gambas-runtime.deb)?
>>>>> I'm think'n that I could just have the end user download and run 
>>>>> before
>>>>> install of my offering (Gambas app.)
>>>>>
>>>>> * If not = how do I deal with this (include the runtime files) - 
>>>>> PLEASE,
>>>>> so even I can understand ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> A BIG THANKS to anyone taking the time to advance this newbie, and 
>>>>> others
>>>>> knowledge!
>>>>>
>>>>> It will be a big help in advancing development of Linux Gambas 
>>>>> apps so
>>>>> folks can rid themselves from M$.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a GREAT day,
>>>>> mikeB
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: see that there are some of you that is working hard on the 
>>>>> terminal
>>>>> component - will be a VERY exciting addition to Gambas
>>>>>
>>>>> when completed - if you would, please inform the list when stable 
>>>>> (and
>>>>> what is needed to do to implement).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Packaging on Linux is based on two things:
>>>
>>> 1) A package of your project, made by the IDE.
>>>
>>> 2) The binary packages of the runtime, managed by your Linux 
>>> distribution, or by Sebastián Kulesz on launchpad for Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> Every interpreted language works this way.
>>>
>>> Just make a package, and if you have bugs or problem, report them. 
>>> That way, we can make 1) working correctly.
>>>
>>> As for 2), this is a big deal.
>>>
>>> Sebastián Kulesz make all the needed packages many versions of 
>>> Ubuntu. As for other distributions, it relies on voluntaries or 
>>> companies to deliver the binary Gambas packages regularly.
>>>
>>> - Debian packages are of course out of date, unless on unstable.
>>> - RedHat (and its cousins) packages seems to be up to date.
>>> - OpenSuSE used to be unable to package Gambas, but now it seems to 
>>> be fixed
>>> - ArchLinux seems to be ok afaik.
>>> - Gentoo has no packages
>>> - ...
>>>
>>> It depends on your distribution, and you have to report any problem 
>>> or better fill the wiki with all the information you gather.
>>>
>>> By the way, the TerminalView control should be ok now in the 
>>> development version.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>
>> Just for clarity, exactly which run-time packages need to be 
>> pre-installed for a project installation package to install 
>> relatively hassle-free and work "out of the box"? Will the installer 
>> prompt for installation of needed component dependencies?
>>
>>
>
> Yes. When the IDE make the package, it defines all its dependencies, 
> which are package names. But it means that the distribution *must* 
> follow a specific package naming scheme (documented in the wiki). And 
> I'm not sure they all do that. Someone should check!
>