[Gambas-user] hardware requirments?

Mon Dec 11 04:14:41 CET 2017

2017-12-10 14:08 GMT-04:00 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>:

> But here we talk about 8 GB of RAM, CPU can not be older than 9 years,
> could not support them.
>
umm in this case there's something wrong with your hardware description..

you said athlon and never athlon motherboards support more thn 6Gb of ram i
think so

could you provide the ooutput of :

/proc/cpuinfo
lspci

or could you try to compile and run gambas from tarball? in a testing
installation?

or reinstall and retest.. maybe its your hard-drive or some RAM dimm in bad
status

>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> 2017-12-10 18:27 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:
>
>> 9 years are not old! Athlon was made by firts time at 1999 a 18 year old,
>> ok
>>
>> gambas must be compiled in the host in that case or you must use my
>> packages for older computers that really works optimized (venenux)
>>
>> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>>
>> 2017-12-10 11:48 GMT-04:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> My computer is 9 years old and works perfectly with Linux Mint (64bit).
>>> I really like the cinnamon desktop.
>>> I compile Gambas myself and I compile every component except Qt5 stuff.
>>> Never had problems.
>>>
>>> When was last 32bit CPU for PCs made? Was it Athlon from 2005?
>>>
>>>
>>> Jussi
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you like laughing...
>>>> Mine is a 13-year old hardware (excluding monitors and mouse, just
>>>> bought the monitor) and with Xubuntu 16.04 it works great.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>
>>>> 2017-12-10 12:47 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> 2017-12-10 4:39 GMT-04:00 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here (Gambas-it) there were discussions that would make us think
>>>>>> otherwise.
>>>>>> Sometimes Mint gives different results.
>>>>>> Taking a test does not cost much effort and removes any doubt.
>>>>>>
>>>>> jajaja never mind. witn a winbuntu derivative never will work..
>>>>>
>>>>> use a kernel with no so many up to date.. a kernel that fith the
>>>>> hardware
>>>>>
>>>>> wrong thinking that the most recent its the better
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-12-10 2:03 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting, then I would guess the fault is not on Linux Mint
>>>>>>> either... their repos contain pretty much the same stuff.
>>>>>>> But hard to say without testing... or knowing the actual error
>>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [System]
>>>>>>>> Gambas=3.10
>>>>>>>> OperatingSystem=Linux
>>>>>>>> Kernel=4.4.0-103-generic
>>>>>>>> Architecture=x86
>>>>>>>> Distribution=Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
>>>>>>>> Desktop=XFCE
>>>>>>>> Theme=Cleanlooks
>>>>>>>> Language=it_IT.UTF-8
>>>>>>>> Memory=3018M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-12-09 20:10 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have you actually tested that with 32bit version?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A possible solution that allows installing 3.10 from PPA is
>>>>>>>>>> Xubuntu 16.04
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2017-12-08 19:27 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <
>>>>>>>>>> mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the problem its the winbuntu derived distro mint..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i installed gambas in the very older eeepc asus with 2G disk ssd
>>>>>>>>>>> internal, 512Mb ram and geode CPU 800MHz perfectly..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but recent stupid linuxes (including recent kernel) now removed
>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of support for older hardware lest take a example to xorg:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> since 7.3 xorg does not support intel i810 complety, lie to said
>>>>>>>>>>> that its supported due that chip does not offer 32bit dept only 16bit "true
>>>>>>>>>>> color" so newer xorg does not complety provide all the chip capabilities
>>>>>>>>>>> so if you have intel 810 based chip and wants DIR and opengl,
>>>>>>>>>>> xorg must be fewer rather thant 7.2  so an older linux must be used..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in my case i backporte gambas for older linuxes.. like debian
>>>>>>>>>>> lenny and squeeze perfectly.. of course, thanks to benoit that still does
>>>>>>>>>>> not "up" the requerimients...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>>>>>>>>>>> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-12-08 13:47 GMT-04:00 Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Dec 2017, mikeB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > here's what my friend replied.....
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Installing Mint 18.3 on Old & New PC's works OK.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Plenty of disks space (250GB SATA).
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Plenty of memory (8GB).
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Then add the ppa:gambas-team repo source.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Then apt-get update & then install gambas3.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Works ok on new PC's, but fails install on old PC's.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > *Major difference is old CPU & Mobo.*
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Works /w AMD APU's & FX CPU's.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Fails on Old PC's /w AMD Athlon CPU's.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Interesting that installing Gambas 3.8.4 on the Old PC's
>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Only Gambas 3.10 fails to install on the Old PC's.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A possibly relevant difference between those systems is that
>>>>>>>>>>>> AMD Athlons
>>>>>>>>>>>> are 32 bit, unless I'm mistaken. Maybe some dependencies are
>>>>>>>>>>>> outdated for
>>>>>>>>>>>> that architecture.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway it would be time to provide some real error messages. If
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's the
>>>>>>>>>>>> bitness or too high version requirements for some dependencies
>>>>>>>>>>>> that came
>>>>>>>>>>>> since 3.8.4, the package manager should be able to say that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tobi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Monk
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