[Gambas-user] hardware requirments?

Sun Dec 10 19:08:54 CET 2017

But here we talk about 8 GB of RAM, CPU can not be older than 9 years,
could not support them.

Regards
Gianluigi

2017-12-10 18:27 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:

> 9 years are not old! Athlon was made by firts time at 1999 a 18 year old,
> ok
>
> gambas must be compiled in the host in that case or you must use my
> packages for older computers that really works optimized (venenux)
>
> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>
> 2017-12-10 11:48 GMT-04:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>
>> My computer is 9 years old and works perfectly with Linux Mint (64bit). I
>> really like the cinnamon desktop.
>> I compile Gambas myself and I compile every component except Qt5 stuff.
>> Never had problems.
>>
>> When was last 32bit CPU for PCs made? Was it Athlon from 2005?
>>
>>
>> Jussi
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you like laughing...
>>> Mine is a 13-year old hardware (excluding monitors and mouse, just
>>> bought the monitor) and with Xubuntu 16.04 it works great.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Gianluigi
>>>
>>> 2017-12-10 12:47 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> 2017-12-10 4:39 GMT-04:00 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Here (Gambas-it) there were discussions that would make us think
>>>>> otherwise.
>>>>> Sometimes Mint gives different results.
>>>>> Taking a test does not cost much effort and removes any doubt.
>>>>>
>>>> jajaja never mind. witn a winbuntu derivative never will work..
>>>>
>>>> use a kernel with no so many up to date.. a kernel that fith the
>>>> hardware
>>>>
>>>> wrong thinking that the most recent its the better
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-12-10 2:03 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting, then I would guess the fault is not on Linux Mint
>>>>>> either... their repos contain pretty much the same stuff.
>>>>>> But hard to say without testing... or knowing the actual error
>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [System]
>>>>>>> Gambas=3.10
>>>>>>> OperatingSystem=Linux
>>>>>>> Kernel=4.4.0-103-generic
>>>>>>> Architecture=x86
>>>>>>> Distribution=Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
>>>>>>> Desktop=XFCE
>>>>>>> Theme=Cleanlooks
>>>>>>> Language=it_IT.UTF-8
>>>>>>> Memory=3018M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-12-09 20:10 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you actually tested that with 32bit version?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A possible solution that allows installing 3.10 from PPA is
>>>>>>>>> Xubuntu 16.04
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-12-08 19:27 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <
>>>>>>>>> mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the problem its the winbuntu derived distro mint..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i installed gambas in the very older eeepc asus with 2G disk ssd
>>>>>>>>>> internal, 512Mb ram and geode CPU 800MHz perfectly..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but recent stupid linuxes (including recent kernel) now removed a
>>>>>>>>>> lot of support for older hardware lest take a example to xorg:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> since 7.3 xorg does not support intel i810 complety, lie to said
>>>>>>>>>> that its supported due that chip does not offer 32bit dept only 16bit "true
>>>>>>>>>> color" so newer xorg does not complety provide all the chip capabilities
>>>>>>>>>> so if you have intel 810 based chip and wants DIR and opengl,
>>>>>>>>>> xorg must be fewer rather thant 7.2  so an older linux must be used..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in my case i backporte gambas for older linuxes.. like debian
>>>>>>>>>> lenny and squeeze perfectly.. of course, thanks to benoit that still does
>>>>>>>>>> not "up" the requerimients...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>>>>>>>>>> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2017-12-08 13:47 GMT-04:00 Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Dec 2017, mikeB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > here's what my friend replied.....
>>>>>>>>>>> > Installing Mint 18.3 on Old & New PC's works OK.
>>>>>>>>>>> > Plenty of disks space (250GB SATA).
>>>>>>>>>>> > Plenty of memory (8GB).
>>>>>>>>>>> > Then add the ppa:gambas-team repo source.
>>>>>>>>>>> > Then apt-get update & then install gambas3.
>>>>>>>>>>> > Works ok on new PC's, but fails install on old PC's.
>>>>>>>>>>> > *Major difference is old CPU & Mobo.*
>>>>>>>>>>> > Works /w AMD APU's & FX CPU's.
>>>>>>>>>>> > Fails on Old PC's /w AMD Athlon CPU's.
>>>>>>>>>>> > Interesting that installing Gambas 3.8.4 on the Old PC's works.
>>>>>>>>>>> > Only Gambas 3.10 fails to install on the Old PC's.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A possibly relevant difference between those systems is that AMD
>>>>>>>>>>> Athlons
>>>>>>>>>>> are 32 bit, unless I'm mistaken. Maybe some dependencies are
>>>>>>>>>>> outdated for
>>>>>>>>>>> that architecture.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway it would be time to provide some real error messages. If
>>>>>>>>>>> it's the
>>>>>>>>>>> bitness or too high version requirements for some dependencies
>>>>>>>>>>> that came
>>>>>>>>>>> since 3.8.4, the package manager should be able to say that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tobi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr.
>>>>>>>>>>> Monk
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