[Gambas-user] hardware requirments?

Sun Dec 10 18:27:41 CET 2017

9 years are not old! Athlon was made by firts time at 1999 a 18 year old, ok

gambas must be compiled in the host in that case or you must use my
packages for older computers that really works optimized (venenux)

Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com

2017-12-10 11:48 GMT-04:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:

> My computer is 9 years old and works perfectly with Linux Mint (64bit). I
> really like the cinnamon desktop.
> I compile Gambas myself and I compile every component except Qt5 stuff.
> Never had problems.
>
> When was last 32bit CPU for PCs made? Was it Athlon from 2005?
>
>
> Jussi
>
> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you like laughing...
>> Mine is a 13-year old hardware (excluding monitors and mouse, just bought
>> the monitor) and with Xubuntu 16.04 it works great.
>>
>> Regards
>> Gianluigi
>>
>> 2017-12-10 12:47 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> 2017-12-10 4:39 GMT-04:00 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Here (Gambas-it) there were discussions that would make us think
>>>> otherwise.
>>>> Sometimes Mint gives different results.
>>>> Taking a test does not cost much effort and removes any doubt.
>>>>
>>> jajaja never mind. witn a winbuntu derivative never will work..
>>>
>>> use a kernel with no so many up to date.. a kernel that fith the hardware
>>>
>>> wrong thinking that the most recent its the better
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>
>>>> 2017-12-10 2:03 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Interesting, then I would guess the fault is not on Linux Mint
>>>>> either... their repos contain pretty much the same stuff.
>>>>> But hard to say without testing... or knowing the actual error message.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [System]
>>>>>> Gambas=3.10
>>>>>> OperatingSystem=Linux
>>>>>> Kernel=4.4.0-103-generic
>>>>>> Architecture=x86
>>>>>> Distribution=Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
>>>>>> Desktop=XFCE
>>>>>> Theme=Cleanlooks
>>>>>> Language=it_IT.UTF-8
>>>>>> Memory=3018M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-12-09 20:10 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you actually tested that with 32bit version?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A possible solution that allows installing 3.10 from PPA is Xubuntu
>>>>>>>> 16.04
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-12-08 19:27 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <
>>>>>>>> mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the problem its the winbuntu derived distro mint..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i installed gambas in the very older eeepc asus with 2G disk ssd
>>>>>>>>> internal, 512Mb ram and geode CPU 800MHz perfectly..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but recent stupid linuxes (including recent kernel) now removed a
>>>>>>>>> lot of support for older hardware lest take a example to xorg:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> since 7.3 xorg does not support intel i810 complety, lie to said
>>>>>>>>> that its supported due that chip does not offer 32bit dept only 16bit "true
>>>>>>>>> color" so newer xorg does not complety provide all the chip capabilities
>>>>>>>>> so if you have intel 810 based chip and wants DIR and opengl, xorg
>>>>>>>>> must be fewer rather thant 7.2  so an older linux must be used..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in my case i backporte gambas for older linuxes.. like debian
>>>>>>>>> lenny and squeeze perfectly.. of course, thanks to benoit that still does
>>>>>>>>> not "up" the requerimients...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>>>>>>>>> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-12-08 13:47 GMT-04:00 Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Dec 2017, mikeB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > here's what my friend replied.....
>>>>>>>>>> > Installing Mint 18.3 on Old & New PC's works OK.
>>>>>>>>>> > Plenty of disks space (250GB SATA).
>>>>>>>>>> > Plenty of memory (8GB).
>>>>>>>>>> > Then add the ppa:gambas-team repo source.
>>>>>>>>>> > Then apt-get update & then install gambas3.
>>>>>>>>>> > Works ok on new PC's, but fails install on old PC's.
>>>>>>>>>> > *Major difference is old CPU & Mobo.*
>>>>>>>>>> > Works /w AMD APU's & FX CPU's.
>>>>>>>>>> > Fails on Old PC's /w AMD Athlon CPU's.
>>>>>>>>>> > Interesting that installing Gambas 3.8.4 on the Old PC's works.
>>>>>>>>>> > Only Gambas 3.10 fails to install on the Old PC's.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A possibly relevant difference between those systems is that AMD
>>>>>>>>>> Athlons
>>>>>>>>>> are 32 bit, unless I'm mistaken. Maybe some dependencies are
>>>>>>>>>> outdated for
>>>>>>>>>> that architecture.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway it would be time to provide some real error messages. If
>>>>>>>>>> it's the
>>>>>>>>>> bitness or too high version requirements for some dependencies
>>>>>>>>>> that came
>>>>>>>>>> since 3.8.4, the package manager should be able to say that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Tobi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr.
>>>>>>>>>> Monk
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