[Gambas-user] hardware requirments?

Jussi Lahtinen jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com
Sun Dec 10 16:48:35 CET 2017


My computer is 9 years old and works perfectly with Linux Mint (64bit). I
really like the cinnamon desktop.
I compile Gambas myself and I compile every component except Qt5 stuff.
Never had problems.

When was last 32bit CPU for PCs made? Was it Athlon from 2005?


Jussi

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you like laughing...
> Mine is a 13-year old hardware (excluding monitors and mouse, just bought
> the monitor) and with Xubuntu 16.04 it works great.
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> 2017-12-10 12:47 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:
>
>> 2017-12-10 4:39 GMT-04:00 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Here (Gambas-it) there were discussions that would make us think
>>> otherwise.
>>> Sometimes Mint gives different results.
>>> Taking a test does not cost much effort and removes any doubt.
>>>
>> jajaja never mind. witn a winbuntu derivative never will work..
>>
>> use a kernel with no so many up to date.. a kernel that fith the hardware
>>
>> wrong thinking that the most recent its the better
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Gianluigi
>>>
>>> 2017-12-10 2:03 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Interesting, then I would guess the fault is not on Linux Mint
>>>> either... their repos contain pretty much the same stuff.
>>>> But hard to say without testing... or knowing the actual error message.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jussi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> [System]
>>>>> Gambas=3.10
>>>>> OperatingSystem=Linux
>>>>> Kernel=4.4.0-103-generic
>>>>> Architecture=x86
>>>>> Distribution=Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
>>>>> Desktop=XFCE
>>>>> Theme=Cleanlooks
>>>>> Language=it_IT.UTF-8
>>>>> Memory=3018M
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-12-09 20:10 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you actually tested that with 32bit version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A possible solution that allows installing 3.10 from PPA is Xubuntu
>>>>>>> 16.04
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-12-08 19:27 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <
>>>>>>> mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the problem its the winbuntu derived distro mint..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i installed gambas in the very older eeepc asus with 2G disk ssd
>>>>>>>> internal, 512Mb ram and geode CPU 800MHz perfectly..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but recent stupid linuxes (including recent kernel) now removed a
>>>>>>>> lot of support for older hardware lest take a example to xorg:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> since 7.3 xorg does not support intel i810 complety, lie to said
>>>>>>>> that its supported due that chip does not offer 32bit dept only 16bit "true
>>>>>>>> color" so newer xorg does not complety provide all the chip capabilities
>>>>>>>> so if you have intel 810 based chip and wants DIR and opengl, xorg
>>>>>>>> must be fewer rather thant 7.2  so an older linux must be used..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in my case i backporte gambas for older linuxes.. like debian lenny
>>>>>>>> and squeeze perfectly.. of course, thanks to benoit that still does not
>>>>>>>> "up" the requerimients...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>>>>>>>> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-12-08 13:47 GMT-04:00 Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Dec 2017, mikeB wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > here's what my friend replied.....
>>>>>>>>> > Installing Mint 18.3 on Old & New PC's works OK.
>>>>>>>>> > Plenty of disks space (250GB SATA).
>>>>>>>>> > Plenty of memory (8GB).
>>>>>>>>> > Then add the ppa:gambas-team repo source.
>>>>>>>>> > Then apt-get update & then install gambas3.
>>>>>>>>> > Works ok on new PC's, but fails install on old PC's.
>>>>>>>>> > *Major difference is old CPU & Mobo.*
>>>>>>>>> > Works /w AMD APU's & FX CPU's.
>>>>>>>>> > Fails on Old PC's /w AMD Athlon CPU's.
>>>>>>>>> > Interesting that installing Gambas 3.8.4 on the Old PC's works.
>>>>>>>>> > Only Gambas 3.10 fails to install on the Old PC's.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A possibly relevant difference between those systems is that AMD
>>>>>>>>> Athlons
>>>>>>>>> are 32 bit, unless I'm mistaken. Maybe some dependencies are
>>>>>>>>> outdated for
>>>>>>>>> that architecture.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway it would be time to provide some real error messages. If
>>>>>>>>> it's the
>>>>>>>>> bitness or too high version requirements for some dependencies
>>>>>>>>> that came
>>>>>>>>> since 3.8.4, the package manager should be able to say that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Tobi
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
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