[Gambas-user] hardware requirments?

PICCORO McKAY Lenz mckaygerhard at gmail.com
Sun Dec 10 15:55:25 CET 2017


2017-12-10 9:18 GMT-04:00 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>:

> If you like laughing...
> Mine is a 13-year old hardware (excluding monitors and mouse, just bought
> the monitor) and with Xubuntu 16.04 it works great.
>
but its not the case..

For information to all Only lasted Athlon CPU's have sse instructions set
.. this can be one of the reasons why failds.. i'll explain for all

gambas works with that, but dependences in "win"buntu does not!, if some
package was compiled with sse or something of non-existing instruction
enabled (common in this days, by example for the kernels) will not work..

Fails on Old PC's /w AMD Athlon CPU's.
Interesting that installing Gambas 3.8.4 on the Old P

Gambas 3.8.4 used by your maybe its from older ppa or from oficial
repositoryes.. in "that time" the dependences was very olders and maybe not
have some instructions enabled

The other obviously reason, its the PPA naturally compilation procedure, i
thinkg due winbuntu mint use the ppa repository, that the ppa compilation
process enabled today many instructions not supported by the olders athlon
cpu's

And for surprise of all, i have a K6 and a K7 cpu, and installed windows
mint and the ppa packages fails for lasted.. with this error:

"ilegal instruction set"

the error its a obviously reference that something done in the cpu that its
not possible, well sse are not the case (was a example),

i compile in my debian lenny and gambas 3.10 works perfectly

>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> 2017-12-10 12:47 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:
>
>> 2017-12-10 4:39 GMT-04:00 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Here (Gambas-it) there were discussions that would make us think
>>> otherwise.
>>> Sometimes Mint gives different results.
>>> Taking a test does not cost much effort and removes any doubt.
>>>
>> jajaja never mind. witn a winbuntu derivative never will work..
>>
>> use a kernel with no so many up to date.. a kernel that fith the hardware
>>
>> wrong thinking that the most recent its the better
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Gianluigi
>>>
>>> 2017-12-10 2:03 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Interesting, then I would guess the fault is not on Linux Mint
>>>> either... their repos contain pretty much the same stuff.
>>>> But hard to say without testing... or knowing the actual error message.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jussi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> [System]
>>>>> Gambas=3.10
>>>>> OperatingSystem=Linux
>>>>> Kernel=4.4.0-103-generic
>>>>> Architecture=x86
>>>>> Distribution=Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
>>>>> Desktop=XFCE
>>>>> Theme=Cleanlooks
>>>>> Language=it_IT.UTF-8
>>>>> Memory=3018M
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-12-09 20:10 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you actually tested that with 32bit version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A possible solution that allows installing 3.10 from PPA is Xubuntu
>>>>>>> 16.04
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-12-08 19:27 GMT+01:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz <
>>>>>>> mckaygerhard at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the problem its the winbuntu derived distro mint..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i installed gambas in the very older eeepc asus with 2G disk ssd
>>>>>>>> internal, 512Mb ram and geode CPU 800MHz perfectly..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but recent stupid linuxes (including recent kernel) now removed a
>>>>>>>> lot of support for older hardware lest take a example to xorg:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> since 7.3 xorg does not support intel i810 complety, lie to said
>>>>>>>> that its supported due that chip does not offer 32bit dept only 16bit "true
>>>>>>>> color" so newer xorg does not complety provide all the chip capabilities
>>>>>>>> so if you have intel 810 based chip and wants DIR and opengl, xorg
>>>>>>>> must be fewer rather thant 7.2  so an older linux must be used..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in my case i backporte gambas for older linuxes.. like debian lenny
>>>>>>>> and squeeze perfectly.. of course, thanks to benoit that still does not
>>>>>>>> "up" the requerimients...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>>>>>>>> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-12-08 13:47 GMT-04:00 Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Dec 2017, mikeB wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > here's what my friend replied.....
>>>>>>>>> > Installing Mint 18.3 on Old & New PC's works OK.
>>>>>>>>> > Plenty of disks space (250GB SATA).
>>>>>>>>> > Plenty of memory (8GB).
>>>>>>>>> > Then add the ppa:gambas-team repo source.
>>>>>>>>> > Then apt-get update & then install gambas3.
>>>>>>>>> > Works ok on new PC's, but fails install on old PC's.
>>>>>>>>> > *Major difference is old CPU & Mobo.*
>>>>>>>>> > Works /w AMD APU's & FX CPU's.
>>>>>>>>> > Fails on Old PC's /w AMD Athlon CPU's.
>>>>>>>>> > Interesting that installing Gambas 3.8.4 on the Old PC's works.
>>>>>>>>> > Only Gambas 3.10 fails to install on the Old PC's.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A possibly relevant difference between those systems is that AMD
>>>>>>>>> Athlons
>>>>>>>>> are 32 bit, unless I'm mistaken. Maybe some dependencies are
>>>>>>>>> outdated for
>>>>>>>>> that architecture.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway it would be time to provide some real error messages. If
>>>>>>>>> it's the
>>>>>>>>> bitness or too high version requirements for some dependencies
>>>>>>>>> that came
>>>>>>>>> since 3.8.4, the package manager should be able to say that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Tobi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
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