[Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour

John Leake jleake at ...3375...
Wed Sep 17 02:19:26 CEST 2014


> Do I have to question my understanding of criticism? I really think this
> is criticism and where I come from this is nothing bad. Especially if the
> criticising person does it the conciliatory way :-)
Thank you.  Here, many will take their bat home if an outsider expresses
an alternative view to those that have invested an enormous amount of
time and effort in nurturing their baby.

Also I know there is a huge potential for generating negative semantic
friction when there are language barriers. I bow down to all that are
bilingual/multilingual. I am only multilingual in the computer language
domain and I am too old to make up for that deficiency now.
> 
>> I will guarantee that all newbies would feel this way.
>>
> 
> That is a strong claim! No chance there is someone who does that twice and
> just accepts the way it works now? Maybe they'll realise that this happens
> only for input boxes which are read-only when time is right :-)
> 
Yes I understand your point of view and I am sure that many will but I
think that many more will not. The young and nimble are like sponges to
new ideas. It is my observation in life that the more intelligent one is
then the less likely they are able to see the obvious (that was a
compliment by the way). Others who are old (and have to switch between
many IDE's/languages and wrestle with all sorts of quirks) see it as an
unnecessary pain. I am 100% confident users that are not computer
language geeks but know that double clicking on some text means that it
is highlighted and what they do next will replace that highlighted text.

>> So what are we to do ?
>>
>> I think you have climbed to great heights of achievement and I like the
>> overall architecture but I will not accept your response to this
>> fundamental point of usability and what's more I could not live with it.
>>
>> If you are happy to guide me along as you have so far (and I thank you
>> for all of that) I am happy to find bugs in your code in return.  If you
>> do not accept my input as being a bug then that is your right and I am
>> fine with that.
>>
>> I am in the process of importing the repo into git so that I can work
>> independently and you are welcome to clone it and explore what I have done.
>>
>> Still friends ?
> 
> I don't think there would be a problem on Benoit's side to grant you write
> access to the svn repository. If that's a problem for *you*, I'm sad to say
> that, if your changes are good, you kind of put people into the hassle of
> seeing them through and importing them on their own. I can already see
> myself looking at your tree once a day in that future which I know I won't
> have time for...
Thank you but I have done SVN and it really is cumbersome when it comes
to merging. As a result it does not fit very well with open source
projects. Git is tricky to get your head around and I am no expert by
any means.

SVN with a Trac web interface was my choice also as technical director
in my own business however when you use Git there is zero fear
associated with allowing any number of strangers (with wildly differing
abilities and views) to interact and share ideas. Mecurial is an
alternative if M$ has any significance.  Check out Linus and form your
own opinionS (2007!).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8

As for once a day, I should be so lucky as to have something interesting
to look at.

Just treat it as a branch that is hard to merge, not a backward step as
I see it. If your community were to consider a switch then there are
some good transitional examples that ran live right throughout the whole
migration process. I will certainly make public my experiences.

Hey it might just be too much for me an I will just wither away.

Things should not be a hassle if you are importing perceived improvements.

Should I call it Gambas-for-ideots ?

I hope to continue the collaboration.

Best regards,

John Leake












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