[Gambas-user] Where are the examples in gambas 3.5.1?

Carl Nilsson nilsson at ...1979...
Mon Dec 2 14:04:38 CET 2013 

G'day Matti:
I don't have a success story to report yet, but I have not been idle 
and thought I should report.
I spent quite some time looking at that 'versions' tab.  Couldn't 
actually do anything with it until later today when I realised that 
only some packages had alternate versions from which to 
choose.  Couldn't install/choose either a complete set of gambas 
3.5.1 or 3.4.1.  I removed and reinstalled gambas3 from the 
'Education' repo - after removing the munix9 repo) and got all 3.4.1, 
but the last four (incl v4l and examples, as I recall) would not 
install because of missing dependencies.   Then I locked all the 
installed packages and tried to reinstate the munix9 to see if the 
remaining four 3.5 packages helped.  That's where i got stuck for a 
while - feeling stupid again - because I had not written down the 
exact name and URL of the munix9 repo.  Finaloly got it to work, but 
the 3.5 versions also had missing dependencies

Gave that a rest in the meantime and tried Mint 13 'maya', as I had 
some guidance to getting gambas3 from Willy Raets 'How to gambas'. 
However, during gambas3 install, I kept getting an error "E" about 
"no space left on device to write".  Got a headache and left it!

Tonight I had another idea and made an iso image file from my SUSE 
12.2 DVD, then burned another DVD so as to have a spare.  I then 
removed the existing SUSE OS from within my VMWare player and started 
afresh with this spare DVD (should make absolutely no difference, but 
I have an impression that some small ones resulted - like being able 
to expand the KDE panel to full screen, which I could not do before, 
no matter how I fiddled - no matter).  I wanted to start afresh after 
all my messing around with repos and packages.  However, bearing in 
mind that, before installing gambas, it is desirable to update the 
OS, I once more found that (being a fresh install), it did not have 
an update repo entry under Yast.  So I found some instructions on the 
net (on 'howtoforge.com) and used zypper to add a repo, refresh and 
update.  To my surprise the compueter has spent an hour doing just 
that!  I don't recall adding an update repo before and I suspect it 
only looked at the DVD when I asked for an update.  All sorts of 586 
packages were downloaded and installed.  This may make a 
difference!  It's late again and I may leave trying to install gambas 
until the morning.

However, one more thing:  In surfing around, I came across this URL: 
http://www.traffictool.net/vmware/opensuse122.html .  Now, this looks 
very interesting.  I am new to using virtual machines.  I installed 
VM Player and assumed that, in order to install a virtual OS like 
Linux, I just installed under VM Player (as it asks me to) a normal 
distro.  However, this 'Traffic Tool' site has specific downloads for 
various Linux versions specifically for VM Player!  Why I 
wonder?   This also might make a difference?  I will test it out in 
the next few days.  Stand by!
regards from Tasmania
Carl




At 04:45 AM 2/12/2013, you wrote:
>G'day Carl,
>
>something seems to be wrong in both of our repositories.
>I looked at my gambas (didn't use it for quite a while) and saw that 
>it is 3.4.1!
>Then looked into YaSt to see why it was not updated automatically.
>Most of the components in the repository are 3.5.1, but some (e.g. 
>gb.gui) are 3.4.1.
>Trying to update gambas results in a lot of dependency-conflict 
>messages between 3.4 and 3.5.
>
>So, I keep the old version until the repo is fixed.
>Your problems obviously come from this version-mix.
>I think you should open YaSt and set all the components back to 
>3.4.1. There is a 'versions' tab where you can choose.
>Then just wait...
>
>By the way: How to find out who is maintaining a repo? Would be 
>great to send them a mail that something is wrong.
>Matti
>
>Am 30.11.2013 23:40, schrieb Carl Nilsson:
> > G'day Matti:
> > Now I'm getting confused again!   Is not the repository you refer to
> > a repository only for the opemSUSE?  I have assumed my openSUSE 12.2
> > is working fine, but it is the gambas install that gives me
> > problems.  The openSUSE 12.2 I actually have comes from a
> > store-boughten DVD set put out by (I think) UnixAcademy.com.  Seems
> > to go on just fine.  I use the KDE gui. Reason I'm trying to stick
> > with it is that I bought some moderately expensive books on SUSE
> > Linux for those long winter nights (that have just
> > passed).  Yesterday i removed the troublesome gambas 3.5 install and
> > tried again, but munix9 is the only repo that I know that gives me
> > something approaching a "one-line" install.  Once again, I had
> > trouble with four packages (including the examples) with missing
> > dependencies.   I couldn't initially install gambas-gb-v4l because of
> > missing -tools and needing tv-common; examples needed libmlib2.so.1
> > etc.  However, I played around with trying to install those packages
> > one by one and finally they did install with no complaints about
> > dependencies.   Now all the packages are installed (white ticks on a
> > black background for all of them) at the gambas 3.5.1 -2.5 level
> > except for gb-gui, gb-maps and script which are at the 3.4.1-2.29
> > level.  I don't know if that is a problem?
> > The fact that I got gambas 3.5 (whether I wanted it or not) from
> > munix9 suggests that somebody is working and trying to keep it up to date.
> > Now my examples show in gambas 3.5.1, but I still have problems.
> >
> > When I start gambas 3.5.1 I get my "tip of the day" and "recent
> > projects".  If I go to examples, like "dragNdrop", the project opens
> > and I get a "project is read only" notice.  Fair enough! I just get a
> > mottled grey screen on the right.  Under the project "sources", if I
> > left click "FDragNdrop", nothing happens (I need to refresh my memory
> > on these operations with gambas).  If I right click it, I immediately
> > get a fatal error, namely:  [2] cannot load class "_Gui':
> > FMain.tvwProject_Menu.257 - and automatically exit from gambas.  All
> > the examples I have tried act similarly.
> >
> > Now, I can't help wondering if this error is related to the fact that
> > gb-gui is installed at the 3.4 level, whereas most of gambas is
> > installed at 3.5 level?  So far as I'm aware (not very far!), munix9
> > did not give me the option of installing at the 3.4 level.   It's
> > possible that this gambas install can be retrieved quite simply by
> > installing a different package - I don't know and I await advice.
> >
> > I recall that (as I said in my post last September 2012) I did get an
> > earlier gambas3 successfully installed under a real installation of
> > SUSE 10 on an older machine, so one way or another, I should be able
> > to get it going under SUSE 12.2.  My (real paper) reference books are
> > all about SUSE 10 and 11, but I expect are still reasonably good for
> > SUSE 12.  They are my real monetary investment that I'm trying to
> > save.   In addition, although I'm struggling, this is a learning
> > process about real-world Linux - but not getting me far into gambas,
> > which is where i really want to spend my time.  I appreciate any
> > assist you can provide at this stage.
> >
> > In the meantime, I have downloaded Mint 13 "Maya"  and will try
> > installing that tonight under VMPlayer.  I saw and downloaded Willy
> > Raets ebook "how to Gambas" which gives an installing path for that
> > version of Linux - which might produce an interesting comparison for me.
> >
> > Thank you for your continued interest.
> > Carl
> >
> > At 10:41 AM 30/11/2013, you wrote:
> >> Hi Carl,
> >>
> >> I don't know if this munix9.rpm is still working and up to date.
> >> Right now, I can recommend (for 12.3) the repository
> >> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/openSUSE_12.3/
> >> Somebody is doing a good job there, and each stable version seems to
> >> be complete.
> >> Regards, Matti
> >>
> >> Am 29.11.2013 12:42, schrieb Carl Nilsson:
> >>> G'day again:
> >>> To my (slight) embarrassment, I see that I asked the same question
> >>> fourteen months ago (27-28 Sep 2012) and got pointed in the correct
> >>> direction by Matti - and so got gambas 3.2 with its' examples running
> >>> on openSUSE 12.2 .  Guess that's what you expect from Seniors like
> >>> me.  Amazing how time flies when you are busy on other things - not
> >>> to mention the memory!  Anyway, I'll follow that path again and
> >>> apologise for taking up your email space. (Just as well I subscribe
> >>> on the gambas-user list and keep the emails!).
> >>> Carl
> >>>
> >>> At 01:38 PM 29/11/2013, you wrote:
> >>>> G'day:
> >>>> I have installed gambas 3.5.1 from munix9 rpm running under openSUSE
> >>>> 12.2 on a Virtual Machine (VMWare Player) on a Win 7 32 bit
> >>>> desktop.  gambas seems fine, but there are no examples. ...(snip)
> >>>> Regards Carl
> >>>>
> >>>> Carl S Nilsson
> >>>> 137 Gordons Hill Road
> >>>> Lindisfarne, Tas.
> >>>> Australia 7015
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT
> >>>> organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance
> >>>> affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% 
> visibility into your
> >>>> Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of
> >> AppDynamics Pro!
> >>>>
> >> 
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349351&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Gambas-user mailing list
> >>>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >>>
> >>> Carl S Nilsson
> >>> 137 Gordons Hill Road
> >>> Lindisfarne, Tas.
> >>> Australia 7015
> >>>
> >> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT
> >>> organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance
> >>> affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% 
> visibility into your
> >>> Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of
> >> AppDynamics Pro!
> >>> 
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349351&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Gambas-user mailing list
> >>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >>>
> >>
> >> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT
> >> organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance
> >> affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your
> >> Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of 
> AppDynamics Pro!
> >> 
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349351&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Gambas-user mailing list
> >> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >
> > Carl S Nilsson
> > 137 Gordons Hill Road
> > Lindisfarne, Tas.
> > Australia 7015
> > 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT
> > organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance
> > affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your
> > Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of 
> AppDynamics Pro!
> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349351&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT
>organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance
>affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your
>Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro!
>http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349351&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
>_______________________________________________
>Gambas-user mailing list
>Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user

Carl S Nilsson
137 Gordons Hill Road
Lindisfarne, Tas.
Australia 7015

More information about the User mailing list