[Gambas-user] Shadow effects... please tell if you like it...

[marco bra]

2012/8/24 Benoît Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>
> Le 24/08/2012 10:11, marco bra a écrit :
> > 2012/8/23 Benoît Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> >
> >> Le 23/08/2012 17:13, marco bra a écrit :
> >>> 2012/8/23 Benoît Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> >>>
> >>>> Le 23/08/2012 15:52, marco bra a écrit :
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> here some graphic idea to dress in a different way (see the attached
> >>>>> Gambas3_suggested_effects.png)
> >>>>> the shadow effects... ( please see the attached
> >> Gambas3_now_effects.png)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hope is some good to have in a future implementation...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you think ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Marco
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The shadow is smaller, that's it?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> The shadow is 3/4 pixel width and in this graphic is not applied to
> >>> external area, i mean not on the record number then is not applied to the
> >>> bottom and left side... to not create a button like effect in the area
> >> with
> >>> no grid i also made all the canvas little bit dark is like the dark part
> >> of
> >>> the shadow still to not create a not wanted raised button like effect.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Is the revision #5072 better for you?
> >>
> >>
> > Yes better but i still see the button effects on the browse area, i suggest
> > you to:
> > - always create the left shadow
> > - always to not create the right and bottom shadow
>
> Sorry, I don't understand the english of that last sentence.
>
> > if you want sunken effects on data canvas area to control the browse of
> > data we can already have the right and lower slidebar
>
> Same remark...
>
> >
> > I know you want use shadow also to show to the user the end of data but
> > personally i thing it conflict a bit with embossed effect you want to
> > create to the data browsing area.
> >
> > So might be using different graphic effect to evidentiate the boundaries
> > field column of data is better. Might be a color gradient on the data
> > column can be better...
> >
> > I have an idea (see attached to show the top of and leftmost boundary of
> > data) simply with some one pixel colored line...
> >
>
> Mmm, no color thanks. It depends too much on the desktop color theme.
>
> > Hope this helps
> > Marco
> >
>
> *You* see a button effect. *I* don't see it. It's just a matter of how
> your brain and my brain interpret an optic illusion.
>
> The shadow means that the GridView inner pass "under" the headers.
> Something like that:
>
>
>
>           (1)                      (2)
>           ------      (3)       ------
>                .=--------------=.
>               /  _            _  \
>            |  | / \          / \ |  |
>            |  \___/          \___/  |
>            \                        /
>             `--->              <---'
>
>
> (1) Left border
> (2) Right border
> (3) Inner canvas
>
> The equal signs is the shadow.
>
> "No shadow" means that we are at one end of the "roller".
>
> I need more testimonies to know if you are the only one that don't see
> the inner inside the borders but outside. Otherwise I can't take a decision.
>
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> Benoît Minisini
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Sorry for my bad english...

ok i know what you try to render using shadow...

but the shadow are not right if you apply them to the underlayn data
or better the effect you get isn't good (my opinion of course)
 /\  is the light
... are shadow
°° point of view

in your implementation

                      °°
                       /\


---                                          ---
    ...         bright surface         ...
----------------------------------

seem impossible to ave an illusion of deep and shadows are not naturally.
correct shadowing of this must be

                       °°
                       /\



---                                          ---
...         lower bright  surface       ...
----------------------------------

so shadow cannot be view from user


My implementation:
                       °°

/\


---                                          ---
     ...                                           ...
----------------------------------

the user will have a perception of a light source coming from the left
and it can view the false deep illusion this isn't my perception is a
geometrical shadowing rule


http://doc.xceedsoft.com/products/XceedChart/LinesAndFrames_Image_Frames.html

Thanks

Marco
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