[Gambas-user] FW: install Gambas2 in suse 10.2

[Paul Horechuk]

On Tuesday 16 January 2007 10:06, Rob wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 January 2007 09:27, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote:
> > > configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
> >
> > the log speaks by itself: you don't have any compiler
>
> I think the fact that this happened speaks for itself:
> non-technical users (and even technical ones that aren't
> familiar with development tools) shouldn't be expected to build
> their own software.

Sorry, but I have to de-lurk on this one. The fact that Javier is trying to 
install a development branch of Gambas, indicates that he wants 
to "develop" software. The "non-technical" user aspect goes out the door.
Ubuntu/Kubuntu has the 1.0 branch readily available as a package and he can 
certainly develop with that. The fact that he chose to go with the 
leading-edge branch means that he has to setup his development environment 
properly. Whatever distro he uses is immaterial. They all lack some aspect 
required for the full Gambas 2 structure, whether it is SDL or PDF or QT, 
etc. I've seen Gambas 2 installed on RedHat/CentOS with the world 
installed, still requiring additional packages that do not come with the 
distro, and that is after a 5 CD install! How can Ubuntu with a single CD 
hope to have everything? It would be a good thing, if there were a meta 
package to add a development environment, but which language?

Benoit is quite correct with using the README to indicate where dependancies 
lie. There could be further clarification as to versions and problems with 
such things as poppler, but it actually is quite usefull. Perhaps a note 
could be added at the top saying that a proper make environment should be 
installed first, but this was definitely indicated by the results of the 
make command. Javier just has to learn how to interpret the results of make 
failures. It is a fact of Linux life. If you simply want to use the OS, as 
a user, then everything is there, as it is in most distros. Going that 
extra step to control your environment means building your tools.

>
> My time is starting to free back up, so I hope within a week or
> so I can get Mandriva 2007 on this laptop (sorry, Ubuntu
> advocates, but there are some ways in which Mandriva is just
> more polished 

Polish also comes from people like you who recognize problems and can do 
something to fix it.

> even if it doesn't have the user base... so I'm 
> going back after 6 months of Ubuntu and Kubuntu use) and start
> building packages again.  Won't help this problem of Javier's,
> but at least he'll be all set on his other system.
>
> Rob
>
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