[Gambas-user] GTK component in 1.9.29

[Daniel Campos]

Hi Ron:

No, of course I do not think your messages are an offence, I was just
explaining my point of view, so do not worry about that :-))

The reason to not use conditional compilation is that It would provide
versions of gb.gtk with unimplemented features, some of them for GTK+-2.6 ,
some of them for GTK+-2.4 and if I'd I start to use a possible GTK+-2.10,
there would be unimplemented functions for GTK+-2.8 too.

So, in that scenario, When I release an stable version there would be
hundred of reports from people telling about things that do not work  in
their systems, and of course hundreds  of replies telling that this feature
does not work in that version, or that other feature does not work in other
version,etc: a lot of improductive work, at the end.

That way, I limit the conditional compilation to what I can assume it is
impossible to unify at 100%: a X11 version, compatibility with DirectFB and
a possible Windows version.

A different thing would be having another programmer providing patches
that make these features to work with a previous versions of GTK+. Then I
wouldn't doubt in adding the needed macros to include the fixes... but just
adding stubs is not the way.

Daniel


2006/4/27, ron <ronstk at ...239...>:
>
> On Thursday 27 April 2006 08:38, Daniel Campos wrote:
> > Hi Ron:
> >
> > I understand you, but both GTK+ and Curl components are alpha/beta
> > components and won't be stable until Gambas2 is released, specially GTK+
> > component which is a big work.
> >
> > If we had here a big team working on these projects, (and lots of money
> to
> > pay them :-) it would be possible to make the code necessary to replace
> the
> > lacks of the previous versions of GTK+ and test the component with
> various
> > versions regullary , but  it is not the case at this moment.  So I work
> in
> > order  to make possible to work with the gb.gtk component in a gnuLinex
> > 2004/2006 system (Debian Sarge compatible, if Debian users upgrade to
> the
> > gnuLinex repositories).
> >
> > The curl thing was a bit different: I had to change several times the
> > libcurl version because the "multi" interface, needed to make a coherent
> > Gambas interface, was quite buggy and unstable in the previous versions,
> and
> > I didn't think it was useful for anybody to provide support for a
> version
> > that surely would crash the program.
> >
> > If other vendors like SUSE or RedHat, or any person trying to provide
> > support for these distributions, want to provide support to that
> components
> > using prior versions they're free to send patches to me or Benoit for
> these
> > components, specially now that the gb.gtk component is placed in a CVS,
> but
> > I can not do all that work personally.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
>
> Good morning Daniel,
>
> Thanks for your info.
> For the GTK+ I do understand it is a big work and on behalf of the
> users that are using it I say many thanks for making it for gambas.
>
> That you can not test it with various versions I do understand
> the problem you have to do it.
> My idea was/is to use a compile time flag to include new version specific
> code or replace old version code with new code.
>
> You are clever enough to think about such thing already but will have
> your reason not to do and I should respect that.
>
> For the curl problem I had the bad guy was SuSE to make yast to dependent
> on the curl version the way they did. They should have it static inside
> yast.
> I was not the only one with that problem I found in time.
>
> Please do not see my message as offence but constructive remarks.
> And sure we can not stay for ever at the old versions.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
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