I was looking for the Gambas freshmeat page this morning and came across this fellow's String and Math libraries for Gambas. JDW, if you are on the list, thanks for making these available; I haven't tried them yet but I'm glad to see more hits for Gambas on freshmeat ;) http://www.jkci.biz/jdwopen/display.php?qtbl=dls&qcat=app&qmode=summary Rob