Re: About the last exchange on bugtracker

[Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr@xxxxxxxxx>]

Fabien Bodard

Le ven. 21 nov. 2025, 10:57, Gianluigi <gradobag@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> As I said, from the height of my ignorance 🤪, I completely agree with
> Fabien.
> The only thing that scares me is backward compatibility, and I think
> that could block the project from the start.
>

No, because fortunately gambas is not using any toolkits directly.


> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
>
> Il 20/11/25 23:49, Fabien Bodard ha scritto:
> > There is FLTK too... 300ko binary
> >
> > Fabien Bodard
> >
> > Le jeu. 20 nov. 2025, 20:07, gbWilly <gbWilly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:gbWilly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
> >
> >     On Thursday, November 20th, 2025 at 19:01, Bruce Steers
> >     <bsteers4@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bsteers4@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>     I like the SDL2 idea.
> >>     I've often thought about a gambas toolkit using gb.sdl2 or gb.cairo.
> >>
> >>     Something that would work without any of the toolkits at all.
> >>     maybe it could import toolkit looks if required.
> >>     and otherwise be fully customizable.
> >
> >     I would very much love to see a toolkit independent implementation.
> >     And even on wayland, could a transparent overlay that does support x
> >     and y coordinates be a solution to circumvent wayland?
> >     The more you control, the more freedom of development, quite simple.
> >     But the world is heading the other way, that is what I have
> >     witnessed in my life time and I'm not a junior anymore.
> >
> >
> >>     Mind you I haven't seen how sdl2 works on wayland.
> >>
> >>     I feel for Benoit with GTK4, from what i read it's completely
> >>     different (incompatible) to GTK3 meaning a whole new component
> >>     will need to be built from the ground up.
> >>
> >>     The OP on the bugtracker i think just does not like the variance
> >>     of linux and prefers windows.
> >
> >     The OP in the bugtracker is clearly not aware of what it takes to
> >     keep up with the ever ongoing developments that add nothing and take
> >     all, and not open to reason and debate.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>     He even keeps complaining that it's absurd he has to add the
> >>     gambas repo to get the latest version because "we" have not
> >>     updated the debian repository! I thought I'd explained why we
> >>     couldn't update debian repo but i don't think he's listening to
> >>     reason.
> >
> >     As I said, no awareness...
> >
> >     gbWilly
> >
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> >     Gambas3 for Debian/Ubuntu <https://gitlab.com/gbWilly/gambas3-
> >     debian-repository>
> >     <https://gambos.gambas.one/>
> >
> >     *...there is always a Catch if things go wrong!*
> >
> >
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