[Gambas-user] gambas not installed by package manager problems.

[Bruce Steers]

It all got a bit complicated for me.
i got to load your source and compiled it but i don't know how to get the
sharedmem component installed.
for libraries you just set it as a library, compile and then gambas can see
it and use it.
for components they do not auto-install and i don't know how to get them to
:(  (still a newb on that)

I made a library once but decided that libraries/components were not the
way to go if you want to distribute an app with no worries.
i decided modules and classes included with the app was better for my needs
anyway , i'm just a basic basic programmer ;)

just copying the SharedMem.gambas component to /usr/lib/gambas3 didn't work
and i also had to re-write the gsh source a bit as it was trying to use
"SharedMem.command" but the component installed as Memcached so i had to
change all the SharedMem. instructions tro Memcached.
still cannot get it to work though :(

I only got this far as one of my os's does not have compiled gambas but
3.14 repo version and it installed fine on that. but i didn't check it out
as i was just trying to get it compiled to install on my main os at the
time.

It sounds like a cool piece of software but i can only install it on an os
that has repo installed gambas and it's a test os that one, not got much
else on it i just use it for testing my apps on for compatibility.

My best option to install any app made with the gambas packager is to
remove the compiled version and install a repo version.
But i like having a gambas i can adjust to my desires. i've got a few
additions to mine i want to keep,
i merge Benoíts latest commits to my branch and keep my additions that way.

it saves me from being a "Benoít can you do this,, Benoít can you do that,
can you merge this" kind of guy lol
I'm only suggesting merges i think will be a great benefit to all now.
My own personal mods i can just have myself :)

BruceS


On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 15:09, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:

> How about a simple zip file that you unzip into /usr/share/gsh ... lol
> With the extra file...
>
> Thank You
> Brian G
>
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> *From: *"Brian" <brian at westwoodsvcs.com>
> *To: *"Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 4, 2020 6:53:20 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Gambas-user] gambas not installed by package manager
> problems.
>
> Ok, It seems that auto tools does not install all the other files needed
> for the project only the binary.
> The extra files are not installed by Autotools..
>
> Thank You
> Brian G
>
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> *From: *"Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
> *To: *"Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 4, 2020 6:20:44 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Gambas-user] gambas not installed by package manager
> problems.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 02:26, Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/11/20 6:14 am, Bruce Steers wrote:
>> > It's a bit of a problem if you have compiled and installed gambas
>> manually
>> > and not just installed via package manager.
>> >
>> > On my system i can use theGambas "Create Installation package" function
>> and
>> > create an installation package but i cannot use it as the .deb file it
>> > makes then checks the dpkg database for what i have installed and does
>> not
>> > find anything gambas so gives errors.
>> >
>>
>> Yes, this is what I was raving about approximately a month ago.
>>
>> There are several possible solutions.
>> 1. Use autotools as Brian G suggests. Yhis is probably the easiest,
>> but.. there are some rare situations with the autotools package builder
>> that I don't think were ever resolved from years ago. You probably won't
>> encounter them (and I've got no recollection what they were either so
>> don't ask.) And don't forget that this is how all the gambas components
>> get installed when you build gambas from source. So if you have problems
>> look at those make data.
>>
>
> so that would get the package i'm trying to install installed but still
> got the other issues
> were apt/dpkg does not know gambas is installed.
>
>
>> 2. NASTY! hack the packae builder so it doesn't generate the package
>> dependencies in the spec file. (oh, I'd never do that ever ;-) )
>>
>
> I'm thinking more along the lines of hack apt/dpkg , somehow manually add
> gambas packages to
> the database without actually installing :)
> Or how to make a HD repository (like the CD repositories you can add
> If we could somehow get the compiled source into a HD repository and have
> apt use that?
>
>
>
>> 3. Write you own installer. I have tried to do this a guzumteen times
>> but something else has always come up and got in the way.  All the stuff
>> is there in the IDE and the project metadata to do this and it really is
>> just a matter of moving files to where they need to go. Perhaps we could
>> collaborate?
>>
>
> I already have too , just simple bash scripts. I figured a gambas app
> hardly needs an installer,
> just add the dependencies/components and hey presto it works (it just
> lacks menu adding) :)
> I made 2, one just adds supplied dependencies.
> the other tries to run a gambas app and if it fails it extracts the
> missing dependencies from the error message and keeps trying to relaunch
> the app until it's got everything it needs.
> But these only work for standard apps, it cannot install it's own custiom
> components.
>
> But again i don't really see a problem with the installer, for the most
> part it's going to work fine for most people, it only seems to have an
> issue with people who have compiled gambas not installed through repo.
> That's what i think need a solution :)
> If dpkg could see the compiled gambas as installed then problem solved :)
> Bruce
>
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