[Gambas-user] Reply to personal rant...

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Cedron,

I see we agree on most things, I also like the Python (or even C) way to see strings as character arrays.

I also agree that source size is not a good way to measure code efectivity or efficiency; at the same time, I like code readability.

Regards,
zxMarce.


On Apr 27, 2019, 12:32, at 12:32, Cedron Dawg <cedron at exede.net> wrote:
>Separate email because I don't want to hijack the originating thread.
>
>I just added a PrintAt(R,C,String) method to my NiceTerm class.  I was
>going to do it originally, but I don't really have a problem with using
>two statements.
>
><personalRant>
>Lines of code is not a good metric for either code complexity or code
>efficiency.
></personalRant>
>
>I've seen programmers reduce "lines of code" by calling external
>routines, which in turn, load tons of baggage code, actually take
>longer to execute, and add an external dependency just to avoid writing
>a few lines of code that would do the same task.
>
>I've also seen programmers who overload statements with incredibly
>complex calculations which would be much more clear if they introduced
>a few temporary variables and broke the calculation into a few lines. 
>Coding for clarity and coding for fewest number of lines are often
>conflicting goals.  I strongly favor the former.
>
>I happen to like Left, Right, and Mid as they are, but I also like
>Python's approach of treating strings as character arrays and having
>range specification capability in subscripting.  That is very similar
>to the Sinclairean syntax you noted.
>
>In fact, I would really like to see Gambas adopt the Python range
>specification convention for all arrays.  This includes negative values
>for wraparound specifications.  
>
>I wrote NiceTerm because I want to develop a bunch of console apps and
>I really don't like ncurses.  So this isn't merely nostalgic, these are
>issues for consideration today.
>
>Ced
>
>
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><personalRant>
>
>Personally, I always hated the awkward Microsoftean way to LOCATE
>things to PRINT. Two statements? Why?
>
>Instead, always loved the british Sinclairean way, which uses:
>
>PRINT AT <line>, <column>
>
>Simple, elegant, shorter, it has it all... and even looks more VT100
>oriented, where you put coordinate/color/etc. codes right before the
>payload. Same way to handle attributes (color, etc):
>
>PRINT AT 3, 10; INK 7; PAPER 0; FLASH 1; INVERSE 0; BRIGHT 1; OVER
>0;"Hello world."
>
>Could go on with replacing the also Microsoftean LEFT$, RIGHT$ and MID$
>abominations with the simpler and more readable Sinclairean syntax
>
>VAR$(<startIndex> TO <endIndex>)
>
>but enough nostalgia trip...
>
></personalRant>
>
>ZXMarce.
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