[Gambas-user] Some quotes and rant

[PICCORO McKAY Lenz]

Well, one way of doing business is to complicate things to cause
dependency, although I don't know what the business would be behind
complicating GTK+3, is it that developers are paid not to use the current
GTK stuff? (a great way to put garbage in the GNU way of softwre freedom)

Maybe it's time to have a version selector and keep two separate codes for
GTK3 < 3.18 and > 3.20?,

otherwise we'll break backwards compatibility, and it won't be possible to
gradually compile it for wheeze/jessie and many embedded linux (using very
recent versions severely impacts the performance of these small devices).

Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com

2018-09-04 9:48 GMT-04:00 Benoît Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>:

> Le 04/09/2018 à 15:37, Christof Thalhofer a écrit :
>
>> Am 04.09.2018 um 11:50 schrieb Benoît Minisini:
>>
>>> Linux policy : "Never break the user space API!"
>>>
>>> GTK+3 policy: "Always try to break the API as much as possible at each
>>> minor version so that nobody can write a GTK+ program that behaves
>>> correctly during more than one month. And if you can implement a feature
>>> with two levels of indirection, do that with ten levels, to make
>>> external developers unable to understand how things work, and to avoid
>>> any possibility of having a fast GUI".
>>>
>>
>> Great rant, very funny if it wasn't so disastrous.
>>
>> Is the GTK port of Gambas very important? At the beginning I tried GTK
>> one time and then switched to QT. Never looked back.
>>
>>
>> Alles Gute
>>
>> Christof Thalhofer
>>
>>
> I'm complaining because I just have spent hours to fix the gb.gtk3
> component, mainly the hacks that allows controls to have any size.
>
> GTK+ developers have decided to change their drawing model.
>
> OK, fine.
>
> But instead on doing that in a major version (GTK+ 4 for example), they
> started to do that incrementally in GTK+3, breaking things at almost each
> minor versions.
>
> For example, the widget themes configuration files had to be rewritten
> between GTK+ 3.18 and GTK+ 3.20.
>
> And look at the size of that page:
>
> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/GTK%2B_3_issues
>
> I don't say Gambas is perfect about backward-compatibility, but I hope I
> will keep being polite the day I meet a GTK+ developer...
>
> Regards,
>
>
> --
> Benoît Minisini
>
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