[Gambas-user] OH NO - not this ? again...

[Benoît Minisini]

Le 02/09/2017 à 11:35, Fernando Cabral a écrit :
> Myself? I'd be benefited with a comprehensive answer to this quest. To this
> moment I have not been able to create a package that, by itself, would work
> in a new machine. Up to now, the solution I have found is no solution at
> all: I install the whole gambas package and then copy the source directory.
> 
> It would be great to know what is the right thing to do.
> 
> - fernando
> 
> 2017-09-01 17:18 GMT-03:00 mikeB <mikeB at ...3673...>:
> 
>> eGreetings - The World of Gambas,
>>
>> Most likely most of you will be thinking "OH NO - not this subject again"
>> but I'm sure I'm not the only one trying to switch from vb6(M$) to Gambas
>> (Linux freedom)
>> that after many hours of research - is very confused on what is required
>> to create/ re-distribute
>> an install file (e.g. xxx.deb).
>>
>> I'm finding that this problem is harder to understand/ solve then the
>> codling diff (vb6 vs Gambas).
>> Maybe, surely your advice will help many others ;-)
>>
>> So here goes - my newbie questions:
>> * are the Gambas runtime files most always backward compatible?
>>
>> * if so = why doesn't the "MAKE > Installation package" function
>> automatically include them?
>>  From my testing it does not - get install error "Can not install - "Gambas
>> runtime files missing blah, blah.."
>>
>> Not a criticism but only a question - there most likely is a good reason?
>>
>> * Is there somewhere/ someone that creates/ offers the current runtime
>> files for download as a setup (e.g. Gambas-runtime.deb)?
>> I'm think'n that I could just have the end user download and run before
>> install of my offering (Gambas app.)
>>
>> * If not = how do I deal with this (include the runtime files) - PLEASE,
>> so even I can understand ;-)
>>
>> A BIG THANKS to anyone taking the time to advance this newbie, and others
>> knowledge!
>>
>> It will be a big help in advancing development of Linux Gambas apps so
>> folks can rid themselves from M$.
>>
>> Have a GREAT day,
>> mikeB
>>
>> PS: see that there are some of you that is working hard on the terminal
>> component - will be a VERY exciting addition to Gambas
>>
>> when completed - if you would, please inform the list when stable (and
>> what is needed to do to implement).
>>
>>

Packaging on Linux is based on two things:

1) A package of your project, made by the IDE.

2) The binary packages of the runtime, managed by your Linux 
distribution, or by Sebastián Kulesz on launchpad for Ubuntu.

Every interpreted language works this way.

Just make a package, and if you have bugs or problem, report them. That 
way, we can make 1) working correctly.

As for 2), this is a big deal.

Sebastián Kulesz make all the needed packages many versions of Ubuntu. 
As for other distributions, it relies on voluntaries or companies to 
deliver the binary Gambas packages regularly.

- Debian packages are of course out of date, unless on unstable.
- RedHat (and its cousins) packages seems to be up to date.
- OpenSuSE used to be unable to package Gambas, but now it seems to be fixed
- ArchLinux seems to be ok afaik.
- Gentoo has no packages
- ...

It depends on your distribution, and you have to report any problem or 
better fill the wiki with all the information you gather.

By the way, the TerminalView control should be ok now in the development 
version.

Regards,

-- 
Benoît Minisini