[Gambas-user] collection of collection problem

[Linus]

Fabien,

Thank you for this great explication and I completely agree with it. :)

Thank you again to all persons that make Gambas possible and usable…since more than 12 years...

Olivier Cruilles


> Le 25 mars 2017 à 11:51, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> a écrit :
> 
> A long thought in bazaar...
> 
> 
> I think, the first job is to teach a new time to developpers how to
> develop. There is nothing great in the code i've sended, juste the
> evidence.
> 
> I've start learnin coding in gwbasic and qbasic... well not the best
> to start. Now we have better languages like python, java, c# and
> i've the impression that taking one hour for making the lacking
> function,has become something insurmountable (in this case 10 minutes
> for me).
> 
> In the past I had no choice, no internet, if I wanted something or if
> it did not exist, you had to buy it or create it (sometimes find it in
> a book). Honestly, today I have reproduced so much with Gambas that I
> think we can almost do everything. What is lacking in Gambas is
> documentation. Unfortunately, we do not have time to write it because
> we have grown up and have a lot of work now. All I can do is swing
> from time to time a spade on the mailing list to help the newcomers to
> understand the pattern of thought behind Gambas. Because I see that
> this is also the problem. Whether at the level of the language or at
> the level of the arrangement of forms, at the level of the event
> structure (gridview, drawingarea and many other widgets), the choices
> are quite innovative and destabilizing. Gambas is not there to replace
> or compete with other languages, it is as in kungfu there are several
> phylosophy and it is one among others.
> To summarize it is not the language in itself that must be understood,
> but the phylsophy of development. For the language, there is the wiki.
> For phylosophy ... we'll have to bend over.
> 
> Benoit, had said that language was able to appreciate different types
> of procedural, object or event programming. But with time I realize
> that the object / event couple is dominant and that this is our
> signature somehow.
> 
> Today it is a coherent mature language (despite the bugs), with
> coherent libraries.
> 
> By experience, it is not necessary to copy a code from one language to
> another, but a concept. What it lacks for me would be a UML
> integrator, which would make it easier to manipulate the concepts of a
> project.
> 
> I think over time have spotted key points that make Gambas more
> difficult to digest for developers a bit too pampered.
> 
> I will take the time to make a document for the helpers to appreciate
> our philosophy and allow them not to try to model the programming
> style of other languages in Gambas.
> 
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