[Gambas-user] check 4 Gambas Runtime files?

mikeB mb at code-it.com
Thu Dec 14 19:25:00 CET 2017 

yes = I'm referring to the "Unbuntu World" and thank you for your fast 
reply!
mikeB


On 12/14/2017 11:19 AM, Gianluigi wrote:
> If you are referring only to the Ubuntu world and derivatives, the easiest
> thing for you and your customers (Windows way) is to make them install
> stable Gambas3 from PPA and provide the executable of your program.
> Taking advantage of the tricks of Tobias and making him eliminate the
> current Gambas installed if of a lower version of the program.
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 
> 2017-12-14 18:18 GMT+01:00 mikeB <mb at code-it.com>:
> 
>> mikeB here again (i'm sure that most folks think i should just go away &
>> figure it out myself- but just maybe others have these same questions?
>> amd i'm having a heck of a time 'figuring it out myself' ;-(
>>
>>
>> *******************************************************
>> In comparing a setup file (VB6 to Gambas):
>>
>> VB6 INSTALL = the script of almost all M$ Windows install files includes
>> at the very beginning the current VB runtime files (at least in any setup I
>> ever created) to make sure the end users' system is up to date with the
>> software being installed.
>>
>> GAMBAS INSTALL = if an app is developed using Gambas version 3.10 and the
>> end users system has v3.8 runtime files installed (or none) the program
>> (end user app) will not install - comes back with the message
>> that v.10 runtime files are required. Not a peep on how to get them or
>> offer to do it automatically.
>> ********************************************************
>>
>> So - my question is = would there be a way to include the v.10 runtime
>> files in the install script - to upgrade if needed - just like a VB6
>> install? And if so,  would that cause any unforeseen problems?
>>
>> For the somewhat advanced Linux user - none of this matters much
>> cuz they are use to handling these issues - but my concern is the
>> person that just switched from Wins 10 to Linux 3 days ago - as I have
>> a large following that I'm trying to help make the switch not only to
>> Linux but to Gambas programming;-)  I want the end user to have NO problems
>> installing a Gambas programmed app - just double click the file (to
>> install) like they are use to. Not having to check v or anything else -
>> just double click the file.
>>
>> Sorry for the long post as some of it was prob unnecessary,
>> have a GREAT day,
>> mikeB
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 02:22 PM, Gianluigi wrote:
>>
>>> Right, not only the runtime is not installed, nothing is installed.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Gianluigi
>>>
>>> 2017-12-13 20:25 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> That does not install anything. It just adds the repo and updates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jussi
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry maybe I'm wrong, but I know this:
>>>>>
>>>>>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
>>>>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>>>>
>>>>> It does not install the runtime but only the libraries and therefore
>>>>> what
>>>>> we are saying here is useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Gianluigi
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-12-13 19:25 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is standard for exit codes.
>>>>>> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/exitcodes.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:02 PM, T Lee Davidson <
>>>>>> t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [shell-script]
>>>>>>> #!/bin/bash
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which gbx3 &>/dev/null
>>>>>>> if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
>>>>>>>       echo "Gambas runtime (gbx3) not found in path. Cannot continue."
>>>>>>>       exit 1 # arbitrary exit code of your choice
>>>>>>> fi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if [[ $(gbx3 -e 'Comp(System.FullVersion, "3.10", gb.Natural) >= 0')
>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>> "False" ]]; then
>>>>>>>       echo "So sorry."
>>>>>>>       exit 2 # also an arbitrary exit code
>>>>>>> fi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # Great, do Gambas stuff now
>>>>>>> [/shell-script]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The line under the "which" statement basically says, "If the exit code
>>>>>>> from the 'which' command is not equal to zero, then..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Strangely on my system, this prints, "So sorry," even though my
>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>> manager says version 3.10.0 of gambas-runtime is
>>>>>>> installed. I have to assume that's an issue with the packager.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Lee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/13/2017 12:33 PM, mikeB wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OKAY then - I'll try that (what Tobi wrote). I just didn't really
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> understand it but I will after hack'n at it for awhile;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> THANKS - we can put this subject to bed unless someone has
>>>>>>>> something else,
>>>>>>>> mikeB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/13/2017 08:44 AM, Karl Reinl wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Mittwoch, den 13.12.2017, 08:26 -0700 schrieb mikeB:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thats what i was thinking (works only if Gambas is installed) but
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I really would prefer NOT to force the end user to install Gambas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> only the v10 runtime files that are required to run the Gambas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> developed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> software/ program. A terminal command to just check if the v10
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> runtime
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> files are installed is really what I was looking for;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks to all that have taken to time to respond -
>>>>>>>>>> it's highly APPRECIATED! Have learned something from every post.
>>>>>>>>>> mikeB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/13/2017 07:43 AM, PICCORO McKAY Lenz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the suggestin from tobias are the best for check a specific
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> version string,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> due return a exact result, not an interpretative result
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> good, but only works if gambas are installed, if not return
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "commando not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> found"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>>>>>>>>>>> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-12-13 9:21 GMT-04:00 Jussi Lahtinen <
>>>>>>>>>>> jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> gbx3 -V
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> gbx3 --version
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Works also...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017, mikeB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On my web site, that I offer software programmed using Gambas,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> notice :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ************************************************************
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***********
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> VERY IMPORTANT: before installing this app you will need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gambas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Runtime  v10 files - most systems will not have these very new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> installed yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do so via the terminal commands:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ************************************************************
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***********
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now that Gambas runtime 10 files are more common - being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> install by the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Distro - is there a way for the user (terminal command) to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> check if
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a real newbie question I'm sure but hey.. I'm a newbie!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any all help on this matter and have a GREAT day,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mikeB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> First check if the interpreter gbx3 is found in PATH, using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "which"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> utility. If not, I wouldn't call Gambas properly installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (although
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> some people might disagree -- it's their computer -- but then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> they will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> be able to figure their Gambas version out themselves).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once you have that, the System class has FullVersion which gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gambas version as a string and you can compare it like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       $ gbx3 -e 'Comp(System.FullVersion, "3.10", gb.Natural) >=
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comp will return the sign (-1, 0 or 1) of subtracting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> version 3.10
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> from your Gambas version. You want the comparison to yield 0 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the above line, you will see either the string "True" or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "False"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> printed to the terminal; you can make the output fancier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOTE: gb.Natural makes the comparison by natural sort, which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to compare version numbers. Observe:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       $ gbx3 -e 'Comp("3.2", "3.10")'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       $ gbx3 -e 'Comp("3.2", "3.10", gb.Natural)'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       -1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because "2" comes before "1" in the alphabet, the default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> lexicographic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> comparison mode declares the string "3.2" to be greater than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "3.10",
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but gb.Natural gets it right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also never coerce the string version into a float for easier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> comparison
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> because you'll run into nasty bugs caused by float roundoff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tobi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Monk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Salut mikeB,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> reread what Tobi wrote: "which" is the magic command for that.
>>>>>>>>>
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