[Gambas-user] Console in V 3.8.4

[Stephen]

Different is not the problem, going backwards by implementing a bad 
design is the problem. Easier to use, faster in use, and more intuitive 
to use, all of those are good; sadly a scrollable single line command 
entry area with a kludge to echo the commands to the output area, is 
none of those things.  When compared to using print statements in the 
code it is a (marginal) improvement... an evolutionary step, the next of 
which would be to become what it replaced.

Anyway, my moaning about it isn't getting the code debugged, which was 
that caused a "WTF" moment and these messages, nor is it making life 
better by replacing what we lost. Is it (the console) written entirely 
in GAMBAS? If I can get some time I might do something about it.

On 03/07/2016 05:55 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> I personally like the old way, but there is nothing I cannot do with this
> new way. And it doesn't have any effect on my working speed.
>
> Do you mean you need the console to its own window?
> Go to Debug menu and select "Use terminal emulator".  Maybe that will do it?
>
> So far you haven't said anything of what is actually the problem with the
> new console. Yes, it's different, but that might not motive anyone to do
> anything about it.
>
>
> Jussi
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Stephen<sbungay at ...3301...>  wrote:
>
>> Why not?
>>
>> Because full screen editing (full window in this case) as it was
>> implemented is better in every way.
>>
>> While the console is not a class editor, would this data entry paradigm
>> be an improvement if applied to the class editor? I'll vote "No" on that
>> one.
>>
>> The new console breaks consistency with the IDE's UI, it feels like an
>> antique wooden-wheel on vehicle that is otherwise very advanced.
>>
>> So I have to ask Benoit: what was the driving force?
>>
>>
>> On 03/07/2016 11:20 AM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>>> Why not?
>>> You need to put the input on one line anyway and the result can have
>>> multiple lines (or you may want to compare multiple results). So I think
>> it
>>> is logical in that way.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jussi
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Stephen<sbungay at ...3301...>
>> wrote:
>>>> Is the console SUPPOSED to have a one line input field with a massive
>>>> results area above it? Please tell me sanity has returned and later
>>>> versions have a console in the traditional sense.
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>>>>
>>>>
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