[Gambas-user] Trouble printing from "Printing Example

Martin McGlensey mmcg29440 at ...3163...
Tue Jun 9 17:13:45 CEST 2015


Benoit thanks for your response. The problem is definitely related to the
print example. Other apps, such as the text editor, printed perfectly before
running print example but not after it. This defect is reproducible. Did you
find anything in the error file I sent? I have another Gambas app that
prints OK. So in my mind there is some problem with the example app.
Unfortunately I do not know where to look for a solution. Hoped that the
community would provide some guidance.

Marty

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Gambas migration to github (or something else?)
      (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
   2. Re: Gambas migration to github (or something else?)
      (Beno?t Minisini)
   3. Re: Gambas migration to github (or something else?)
      (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
   4. Trouble printing from "Printing Example" (Martin McGlensey)
   5. Re: Trouble printing from "Printing Example" (Beno?t Minisini)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 08:25:51 +0200
From: Rolf-Werner Eilert <eilert-sprachen at ...221...>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas migration to github (or something
	else?)
To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
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Am 09.06.2015 07:24, schrieb Adrien Prokopowicz:
> Le Tue, 09 Jun 2015 04:50:53 +0200, Beno?t Minisini 
> <gambas at ...1...> a ?crit:
>
>> Le 09/06/2015 04:21, Adrien Prokopowicz a ?crit :
>>> Le Sat, 30 May 2015 21:55:04 +0200, Beno?t Minisini 
>>> <gambas at ...1...> a ?crit:
>>>
>>>> Le 30/05/2015 21:42, Adrien Prokopowicz a ?crit :
>>>>> Le Sat, 30 May 2015 20:23:17 +0200, Beno?t Minisini 
>>>>> <gambas at ...1...> a ?crit:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm currently testing the SVN import feature of github for Gambas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The plan is to migrate from subversion to something else, that "else"
>>>>>> having to provide git (or svn) and a bug tracker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main reason is the "Gimp" sourceforge case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone has a problem against using git instead of subversion, 
>>>>>> please tell. I don't know how to use git yes, and I think it will 
>>>>>> be better and faster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if I can import Google issues into github with the 
>>>>>> Google code export, I will check.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And at the moment, GitHub tells me that 87% of the repository is 
>>>>>> imported, while sending me a mail telling that the import has 
>>>>>> failed at the same time... Weird!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>> I have used Github (and therefore Git) for both school and 
>>>>> personal projects for quite some time, so personally I have no 
>>>>> problem with Gambas switching to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, Github does not provide website hosting nor mailing-list 
>>>>> features, so will these stay on SourceForge ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I haven't found any "Gambas" organization, do you plan to 
>>>>> make one before importing the repository ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>> I just created a personal account to check svn import.
>>>>
>>> Have you had any success importing the svn repository to Github ?
>>>
>> Yes, but there is no mailing-list. I'm thinking about "gna!" now...
>>
> Oh right, I forgot about that ...
>
> I made some research around gna!, and I have a few questions :
>
> - gna! seems to have originated from GNU Savannah, but I couldn't
>     find the exact reasons of this separation, and both look pretty
>     similar to me. So why not going to Savannah (which seems bigger
>     and directly supported by the FSF and GNU) ?
>
> - Also, thinking about gna!/savannah reminded me of this old
>     proposition[0] to become a GNU project.
>     I don't remember you actually accepting or rejecting it, nor
>     being rejected by the GNU project, so what happened ?
>     Maybe they could help with this hosting problem ...
>
> [0] https://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/message/32334826/

As far as I remember, GNU's restrictions for the source code and rules for
comments within the sources were too strict or badly adaptable to the Gambas
way of doing. In the end, the idea seemed to fail at this point, as nobody
was able or willing to rewrite the code to fulfill the requirements.

But I haven't read the archives yet, so it's purely taken from my memory
which has a high error rate ;)

Regards
Rolf




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:13:23 +0200
From: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas migration to github (or something
	else?)
To: eilert-sprachen at ...221..., 	mailing list for gambas users
	<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <5576CA53.3050300 at ...1...>
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Le 09/06/2015 08:25, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit :
>
> Am 09.06.2015 07:24, schrieb Adrien Prokopowicz:
>> Le Tue, 09 Jun 2015 04:50:53 +0200, Beno?t Minisini 
>> <gambas at ...1...> a ?crit:
>>
>>> Le 09/06/2015 04:21, Adrien Prokopowicz a ?crit :
>>>> Le Sat, 30 May 2015 21:55:04 +0200, Beno?t Minisini 
>>>> <gambas at ...1...> a ?crit:
>>>>
>>>>> Le 30/05/2015 21:42, Adrien Prokopowicz a ?crit :
>>>>>> Le Sat, 30 May 2015 20:23:17 +0200, Beno?t Minisini 
>>>>>> <gambas at ...1...> a ?crit:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm currently testing the SVN import feature of github for Gambas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The plan is to migrate from subversion to something else, that
"else"
>>>>>>> having to provide git (or svn) and a bug tracker.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The main reason is the "Gimp" sourceforge case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If anyone has a problem against using git instead of subversion, 
>>>>>>> please tell. I don't know how to use git yes, and I think it 
>>>>>>> will be better and faster.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know if I can import Google issues into github with the 
>>>>>>> Google code export, I will check.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And at the moment, GitHub tells me that 87% of the repository is 
>>>>>>> imported, while sending me a mail telling that the import has 
>>>>>>> failed at the same time... Weird!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have used Github (and therefore Git) for both school and 
>>>>>> personal projects for quite some time, so personally I have no 
>>>>>> problem with Gambas switching to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, Github does not provide website hosting nor mailing-list 
>>>>>> features, so will these stay on SourceForge ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I haven't found any "Gambas" organization, do you plan to 
>>>>>> make one before importing the repository ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>> I just created a personal account to check svn import.
>>>>>
>>>> Have you had any success importing the svn repository to Github ?
>>>>
>>> Yes, but there is no mailing-list. I'm thinking about "gna!" now...
>>>
>> Oh right, I forgot about that ...
>>
>> I made some research around gna!, and I have a few questions :
>>
>> - gna! seems to have originated from GNU Savannah, but I couldn't
>>      find the exact reasons of this separation, and both look pretty
>>      similar to me. So why not going to Savannah (which seems bigger
>>      and directly supported by the FSF and GNU) ?
>>
>> - Also, thinking about gna!/savannah reminded me of this old
>>      proposition[0] to become a GNU project.
>>      I don't remember you actually accepting or rejecting it, nor
>>      being rejected by the GNU project, so what happened ?
>>      Maybe they could help with this hosting problem ...
>>
>> [0] https://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/message/32334826/
>
> As far as I remember, GNU's restrictions for the source code and rules 
> for comments within the sources were too strict or badly adaptable to 
> the Gambas way of doing. In the end, the idea seemed to fail at this 
> point, as nobody was able or willing to rewrite the code to fulfill 
> the requirements.
>
> But I haven't read the archives yet, so it's purely taken from my 
> memory which has a high error rate ;)
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>

No, it's "just" a matter of having the time of filling that:

http://www.gnu.org/help/evaluation.html

I didn't have the time since last year to deal with that...

As for gna!, according to Wikipedia, it is a fork of Savannah made by the
creators of Savannah that wanted to keep their way of managing it by
collaboration.

Regards,

--
Beno?t Minisini



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:54:57 +0200
From: Rolf-Werner Eilert <eilert-sprachen at ...221...>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas migration to github (or something
	else?)
To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Message-ID: <5576F031.5030404 at ...221...>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed


Am 09.06.2015 13:13, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 09/06/2015 08:25, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit :
>> Am 09.06.2015 07:24, schrieb Adrien Prokopowicz:
>>> Le Tue, 09 Jun 2015 04:50:53 +0200, Beno?t Minisini
>>> <gambas at ...1...> a ?crit:
>>>
>>>> Le 09/06/2015 04:21, Adrien Prokopowicz a ?crit :
>>>>> Le Sat, 30 May 2015 21:55:04 +0200, Beno?t Minisini
>>>>> <gambas at ...1...> a ?crit:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 30/05/2015 21:42, Adrien Prokopowicz a ?crit :
>>>>>>> Le Sat, 30 May 2015 20:23:17 +0200, Beno?t Minisini
>>>>>>> <gambas at ...1...> a ?crit:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm currently testing the SVN import feature of github for Gambas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The plan is to migrate from subversion to something else, that
"else"
>>>>>>>> having to provide git (or svn) and a bug tracker.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The main reason is the "Gimp" sourceforge case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If anyone has a problem against using git instead of subversion,
>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>> tell. I don't know how to use git yes, and I think it will be
better
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> faster.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know if I can import Google issues into github with the
>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>> code export, I will check.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And at the moment, GitHub tells me that 87% of the repository is
>>>>>>>> imported, while sending me a mail telling that the import has
failed
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> the same time... Weird!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have used Github (and therefore Git) for both school and personal
>>>>>>> projects for quite some time, so personally I have no problem with
>>>>>>> Gambas
>>>>>>> switching to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, Github does not provide website hosting nor mailing-list
>>>>>>> features,
>>>>>>> so will these stay on SourceForge ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, I haven't found any "Gambas" organization, do you plan to make
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> before importing the repository ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just created a personal account to check svn import.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Have you had any success importing the svn repository to Github ?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, but there is no mailing-list. I'm thinking about "gna!" now...
>>>>
>>> Oh right, I forgot about that ...
>>>
>>> I made some research around gna!, and I have a few questions :
>>>
>>> - gna! seems to have originated from GNU Savannah, but I couldn't
>>>       find the exact reasons of this separation, and both look pretty
>>>       similar to me. So why not going to Savannah (which seems bigger
>>>       and directly supported by the FSF and GNU) ?
>>>
>>> - Also, thinking about gna!/savannah reminded me of this old
>>>       proposition[0] to become a GNU project.
>>>       I don't remember you actually accepting or rejecting it, nor
>>>       being rejected by the GNU project, so what happened ?
>>>       Maybe they could help with this hosting problem ...
>>>
>>> [0] https://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/message/32334826/
>> As far as I remember, GNU's restrictions for the source code and rules
>> for comments within the sources were too strict or badly adaptable to
>> the Gambas way of doing. In the end, the idea seemed to fail at this
>> point, as nobody was able or willing to rewrite the code to fulfill the
>> requirements.
>>
>> But I haven't read the archives yet, so it's purely taken from my memory
>> which has a high error rate ;)
>>
>> Regards
>> Rolf
>>
> No, it's "just" a matter of having the time of filling that:
>
> http://www.gnu.org/help/evaluation.html
>
> I didn't have the time since last year to deal with that...
>
> As for gna!, according to Wikipedia, it is a fork of Savannah made by
> the creators of Savannah that wanted to keep their way of managing it by
> collaboration.
>
> Regards,
>

Ah ok, I see. I read the GNU page, and the only thing that comes to my 
mind is about qt and maybe other parts which are not completely GNU 
compliant (GTK+ is, right?). Would that be a problem?

On the one hand, being part of GNU seems to be a means of becoming more 
popular. On the other hand, GNU is a world of its own, so it might mean 
to be part of a special biotope, bound in a microcosmos, and hopefully 
not a parallel universe ;) But my knowledge about these things is far 
from being concise, so just take me too seriously here. I would just be 
sad if one day I had to read "we cannot do this or that thing because 
we're part of GNU and it's policy here...".

Rolf




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:29:54 -0400
From: "Martin McGlensey" <mmcg29440 at ...3163...>
Subject: [Gambas-user] Trouble printing from "Printing Example"
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Good Morning,

 

I'm running Linux Mint 17.1 and Gambas 3.7.1. My printer is a Canon
Image-Class MF4150 connected through Samba to a PC running Windows 8. I have
installed the driver provided by Canon for Linux. Prior to running the Print
Example all worked with no problem. I was able to print a printer test page
and a file. The print queue emptied as it should.

 

I ran the print example in the debugger. Selected the print button to print
the file "Molly Malone". The printer dialog opened and the document was sent
to the queue. OK so far. The document never printed and it showed
"processing" in the queue. After four to five minutes the document still had
not printed.  Other documents were behind waiting to be printed. Deleting
the stuck job did not release the other jobs. Rebooting did not help. No
other document, from any app, would not print. Had to delete and reinstall
the printer to get it to print again. Verified that the print example app
was at fault by printing a text file and a test page before running the app.

 

Attached are errors seen in the console during execution of the print
example. This is the first time I've tried to print so I'm not sure what to
do from here. I assume the app works or it would not be in the example file.
Maybe you guys can help and suggest what I can do to find the problem.

 

Thanks,

Marty

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 16:38:11 +0200
From: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Trouble printing from "Printing Example"
To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
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Le 09/06/2015 16:29, Martin McGlensey a ?crit :
> Good Morning,
>
>
>
> I'm running Linux Mint 17.1 and Gambas 3.7.1. My printer is a Canon
> Image-Class MF4150 connected through Samba to a PC running Windows 8. I
have
> installed the driver provided by Canon for Linux. Prior to running the
Print
> Example all worked with no problem. I was able to print a printer test
page
> and a file. The print queue emptied as it should.
>
>
>
> I ran the print example in the debugger. Selected the print button to
print
> the file "Molly Malone". The printer dialog opened and the document was
sent
> to the queue. OK so far. The document never printed and it showed
> "processing" in the queue. After four to five minutes the document still
had
> not printed.  Other documents were behind waiting to be printed. Deleting
> the stuck job did not release the other jobs. Rebooting did not help. No
> other document, from any app, would not print. Had to delete and reinstall
> the printer to get it to print again. Verified that the print example app
> was at fault by printing a text file and a test page before running the
app.
>
>
>
> Attached are errors seen in the console during execution of the print
> example. This is the first time I've tried to print so I'm not sure what
to
> do from here. I assume the app works or it would not be in the example
file.
> Maybe you guys can help and suggest what I can do to find the problem.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marty
>

Priting is a bad beast in gb.gtk/gb.gtk3, so I will look at that. But 
even if buggy in Gambas, I don't see how can it can stuck your printer 
queue. There is another problem outside of Gambas I guess...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



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