[Gambas-user] Solving the Gambas packaging problem psychologically (!)

Bruce bbruen at ...2308...
Fri Jan 10 09:21:31 CET 2014


On Fri, 2014-01-10 at 08:50 +0100, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote: 
> 
> Am 08.01.2014 20:39, schrieb Fernando Martins:
> > On 01/07/2014 09:38 PM, Benoît Minisini wrote:
> >> Le 07/01/2014 17:53, Rolf-Werner Eilert a écrit :
> >>> As for TerraGen: http://planetside.co.uk/products/terragen3
> >>>
> >>> But those guys have been programming it for years, so it would be hard
> >>> to come up with anything near to its perfection...
> >>>
> >>> The serial letter thing is (in a very simple form) the project I just
> >>> sent you.
> >>>
> >>> This image editor in the Gambas IDE, where is it? How can I access it?
> >>>
> >> Just put any image file (jpg, png, gif or xpm) in your project and
> >> double-click on it from the IDE.
> >>
> > I haven't checked it myself but your idea might not be so far fetched :)
> > I have not seen the latest versions of bitmap editors in Linux, but all
> > of those I have checked a couple of years ago, I always missed some
> > critical feature when compared to good old MS Paint Brush!! That's how
> > low my standard was. Amazing and very frustrating. My uses were actually
> > quite simple: grab some screenshot with PrtScn (or Alt+PrtScn), paste
> > into MS PB, do some basic image manipulation, but including pixel level
> > manipulation with a zoom, add some text, and then use it in a
> > presentation or the web. I remember the only feature I missed in PB was
> > to set the transparency color and some file format.
> >
> > Plenty of Linux bitmap editors would fail on the clipboard requirement.
> > Others in the zoom, or the text, IIRC. The only one that worked decently
> > was the very old x-paint (IIRC the name) a pure X app, ugly as it could
> > be but solid and fairly deep stuff. (gimp was not for me)
> >
> > Fernando
> >
> 
> A few minutes ago, I wanted to do just the thing you mentioned (take a 
> web graphic / screenshot, draw some lines, add a few comments, and put 
> it back into a forum article). Gimp is way too sophisticated to do such 
> things quick-and-dirty, and I didn't know what to use else. So: 100 % agree.
> 
> On my distro, some mtPaint has been installed (and I hadn't even noticed 
> yet). It seems it's older stuff, so it might have come in together with 
> KDE3 (although it's GTK+). If you can find it, take a look at it. Or I 
> could make a screenshot... It offers a lot of functions via the menues, 
> much too many in my opinion. But it was delevoped to work on icon 
> bitmaps, according to the impressum text.
> 
> Anyway, its functions would mark the limit for me in such a tool. At a 
> first glance, I would change the toolbars to a "minimum necessary" and a 
> "show it all" version to not scare away beginners. And one might add a 
> customizing function that allows icons/functions to swap between the two 
> modes for usability.
> 
> What I wanted to say is, the more I keep thinking about it, the more I 
> begin to like this idea.
> 
> Rolf
> 
Rolf,
Not trying to kill any good ideas at all, but given what you said have
you ever had a look at "Shutter"? Here's a sample, it took about 30
seconds.

regards
Bruce



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