[Gambas-user] A little article on Gambas on Phoronix

[Tom]

I agree!  Well said...

On 11/26/2013 2:10 PM, Randall Morgan wrote:
> Ok, I'll give my two cents worth...
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> BASIC has gotten a bad wrap and it is now vogue to knock BASIC. The
> statement someone made in the article comments, something to the fact that
> "Anyone who has been exposed to BASIC cannot be a good programmer" is crap.
> BASIC was the first language for many GREAT programmers. In fact, anyone
> over 45 probably has some BASIC experience. BASIC was a great go-to (no pun
> intended) language for quick jobs that didn't require direct memory access
> for many years.
>
> BASIC was replaced by Pascal and C eventually took over Pascal in
> production areas. At first C was considered to difficult to teach new
> programmers. But as time marched forward C gained features and (mostly)
> instructors began to find ways to convey C's constructs in an way that was
> understandable to new programmers. Then Java came along and replaced C as a
> learning language.
>
> The fact is, many people STILL see BASIC as the old BASIC-A or Dartmouth
> BASIC or they simply repeat what someone they respect says about the
> language. The truth is, until they take the time to actually write several
> apps in the newer variants of BASIC, they have no grounds for their
> comments.
>
> My belief is that there is a place for just about any programming language.
> I hate FORTRAN but for scientific apps it still holds it own. As archaic as
> ADA can be, if I am writing code for the something life depends upon, I'd
> still use it. If I want to knock out an app quickly that does not require a
> lot of complicated coding then BASIC is as good as it has always been and
> then some!
>
> A smart developer puts many tools in his belt. He learns like a craftsman
> that there is a place for each tool in his toolbox. So he'll use some all
> the time because they fit his needs and his style, other's he'll rarely use
> because they make his job more complex most of the time, or don't fit the
> type of jobs he usually does.  But when needed, they provide capabilities
> that the other tools don't.
>
> I remember a time when PHP and Python were both considered by many to be
> "toy" scripting languages and "real" developers didn't use scripting
> languages. A real programmer only used compiled languages. PHP now has a
> large hold on the the WEB and Python has grown into it's own and is
> becoming a great general purpose language.
>
> If Gambas did not solve some problem(s) for a class of developer, it
> wouldn't exist. Just as Fortran, Prolog, Pascal, and ADA would die if they
> didn't solve some issue for the people who use them. Just because one
> person or a few people can't see the benefits may only mean they don't work
> in an environment that would benefit from that particular language.
>
> I can count on one hand the number of professional apps I've written with
> VB. But that doesn't make VB a bad language (it does have it's
> particularities. But, then doesn't every language?). I've written more apps
> in Gambas but only because it fits my needs now. I wrote many apps in
> GWBASIC, BASIC-A, Forth, Fortran, Prolog, COBOL, and even many in
> Assembler. Just as I return to BASIC when that tool fits my task well, I
> would return to Assembler (and do) when speed or size is an issue.
>
> Those who declare BASIC a toy language have failed to grow up with the
> language. They should also declare C a dead language and declare Java or
> C++ it's successor. But the truth is, C is still preferred over C++ in many
> instances. So let the naysayers have their moment to demonstrate their lack
> of breath of experience and those of us who know a good thing when we see
> it will continue to be productive with what ever tool best fits our task
> and style. And, remember, these naysayers are the same guys declaring their
> language is the only "real" tool for all problems. They'd use a sledge
> hammer to drive a thumbtack in the wall.
>
> Just my two cents ;-)
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> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...>wrote:
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>> Am Dienstag, den 26.11.2013, 17:42 +0100 schrieb Fabien Bodard:
>>> The first Unity conf app "MyUnity" was done with Gambas.... but noOne
>>> knows because there 're end users :-)
>>>
>> Salut,
>>
>> just google 'MyUnity gambas'
>>
>>
>> --
>> Amicalement
>> Charlie
>>
>>
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