[Gambas-user] Semi-persistent pop-up form?

[Bruce]

On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 16:12 +0100, Benoît Minisini wrote:
> Le 12/11/2013 00:19, Bruce a écrit :
> > On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 22:30 +0100, Benoît Minisini wrote:
> >> Le 11/11/2013 21:47, Bruce a écrit :
> >>> Is there some way to make a popup form only close on a specific user
> >>> action?
> >>>
> >>> In the attached picture, I have a popup form displaying some statistical
> >>> guff about the data displayed in the main form. (I have pixelised the
> >>> main form just to highlight the popup.)
> >>>
> >>> As per design, as soon as the user clicks on the main form, the popup
> >>> disappears. In fact, as soon as the user clicks (anything) the popup
> >>> disappears.
> >>>
> >>> What I would like to have happen is that the popup remain active until
> >>> the user performs a specific action e.g. presses Alt+F, or whatever.
> >>>
> >>> (I have tried both the Show and ShowModal approaches, but they have
> >>> other problems with things like positioning the popup correctly,
> >>> multiple copies etc etc. ShowPopup seems to give the best operation so
> >>> far.)
> >>>
> >>> Even getting to the point of only closing the popup if the click is
> >>> within the main form window would help.
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> tia
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>
> >> Look at the Window.Utility property.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >
> > Wonderful!  Almost there. The only problem I have left (ha-ha!) is
> > moving the main form to another virtual desktop. In LXDE I can drag the
> > main form to the next or prior desktop (or use the window menu "Send to
> > Desktop"), I presume that there are equivalent features on other
> > desktops, I've just forgotten.
> >
> > When I do this with the "utility" window open it moves the main form
> > correctly but leaves the utility on the original desktop.
> >
> > This may be an LXDE or OpenBox issue, but I thought maybe someone has
> > got an idea.
> >
> > tia
> >
> 
> This may be a window manager issue: on KDE, if you move the main window 
> on another virtual desktop, the utility window follows.
> 
> Check which gui component you actually use: gb.qt4 or gb.gtk. If you use 
> gb.gui, define the GB_GUI environment variable to "gb.qt4" or "gb.gtk".
> 
> The problem may come from that (i.e. the toolkit may not give enough 
> information to the window manager to let him decide what to do with the 
> utility window).
> 
> On X11, the window manager job is... managing windows. The application 
> must not deal with that. So if the window manager is not very clever, 
> you have problems like that!
> 

Yep, it's definitely an LXDE "feature". :-(
I've tried it in various vm's using different window managers and mainly
they work.  The utility window follows the main window across the
desktops.

I think the answer is in your last sentence. The LXDE wm is by design
"not very clever" (actually I'll change that to "not too clever, but
does expose a lot of portland stuff that can be used").  It is a pity
that the portland project now seems to be very defunct and each and
every distro seems to be creating their own variant of the scripts.

On the other hand (!!! :-) )I do like the fact that gambas is carrying
its' own portland script versions. This means that I _can_ tailor the
(local) gb.desktop versions to work properly without having to muck
about with the client's distro version.

Let's call this one "over and done".

cheers
Bruce