I forgot to include this in the previous post. DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=8.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=intrepid DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.10" -- Bill Richman - Lincoln, Nebraska Tilter at windmills, maker of pies in the sky, & curmudgeon email: bill at ...2350... web: www.geektrap.com