[Gambas-user] We should offer online Gambas courses!

Mon Mar 30 23:49:37 CEST 2009

Like I said I'd admin the site so I guess that's what you mean by co-ordinate
the samples.

Ill setup a site tonite, so when you get a chance you can email me the
samples to just remove the spaces:  

jbskaggs   @   skaggs   world  .   com

Im in the states but Im in the office from noon central time till about 4 or
5 am. I work and live  children's home (used to be called orphanages) so at
night  have time to program and write etc.  I'm the one who makes sure kids
don't run away, are comforted when scared or lonely, provide counseling,
that kind of thing.

jb skaggs

richard terry-5 wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:43:22 am Ron wrote:
>> richard terry wrote:
>> > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:22:48 am jbskaggs wrote:
>> >> I would like to set up a online gambas school where the more
>> experienced
>> >> users and coders here could offer an online workshop on Gambas for
>> >> users.
>> >>
>> >> Make it an affordable cost (Like a $0 to $25 a course, depending on
>> >> complexity, length, and time required. A course on making Forms should
>> >> be free, but a all inclusive course on writing a mmorpg in gambas
>> should
>> >> have a fee attached)  and offer a workshop for different fundamentals:
>> >>
>> >> I know for me a lot of Gambas is intuitive but much of it isn't.
>> >>
>> >> Im thinking it could be setup on a moodle or someother workshop /
>> class
>> >> software.  With online lessons and quizzes for free but to get the
>> >> actual coding graded it would require a live teacher to grade and
>> >> comment thereby why a nominal fee would be justified.  I could even
>> host
>> >> the moodle site and help admin it but my programming knowledge is so
>> low
>> >> I wouldn't make a good teacher.  But I could help someone setup a
>> course
>> >> and host it and that person could charge a reasonable fee to teach the
>> >> course. (Though in the spirit of linux the less money the better.)
>> >>
>> >> For example I would be willing to pay right now to be tutored in how
>> to
>> >> reference, manipulate, and check objects and controls via code
>> >> (dynamically via nested loops and such).  I read the documents- I look
>> >> at the examples and still I get the wrong impressions and waste hours
>> >> and hours on many different controls or functions.
>> >>
>> >> I helped setup an online bible college and the way it ran was every
>> >> course had a different instructor (or most did) and those instructors
>> >> set their own prerequisites and graded assignments on their own
>> schedule
>> >> (within reason).
>> >>
>> >> But the very basic courses were almost entirely automated - no need to
>> >> have heavy instructor interaction.  But as the courses became more in
>> >> depth then instructors became paramount.  Because students needed to
>> ask
>> >> questions and yes other students could answer and even grade (though
>> >> their gradings were subject to instructor override.)
>> >>
>> >> I look at the number of basic questions on Nabbles and just think that
>> a
>> >> systematic instruction courses would make gambas bloom even more.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe something like:
>> >>
>> >> 1- Setting up your Gambas
>> >>      a. download and installation
>> >>      b. Defining preferences and intro to Gambas
>> >>
>> >> 2- Mastering the IDE interface:
>> >>      a. creating projects, forms, simple control, saving, compiling,
>> and
>> >> packaging
>> >>
>> >> 3- Gambas Programming fundamentals: A big unit broken into smaller
>> >> courses a. Forms
>> >>      b. Controls
>> >>      c. Assignments, Operators, Strings, Numbers, and Booleans
>> >>      d. Comparisons, Loops, and nestings
>> >>      e. Good programming, coding practices, and the Gambas Programming
>> >> language
>> >>
>> >> 4. Components: Another big unit
>> >>      a. gb
>> >>      b. gb.compress
>> >>      c. gb.chart etc...
>> >>
>> >> 5. FX
>> >>     a. BMP, JPG, PNG, GIF, etc what they are.  Editing and making
>> them.
>> >>     b. Animations and movies
>> >>     c. creating, editing, and sounds and music
>> >>
>> >> 6. Application specific courses:
>> >>    a. How to write a text editor
>> >>    b. How to write a scrolling shooter game etc and so on
>> >>
>> >> and so forth.
>> >>
>> >> And of course offer a Certificates for completing the courses.
>> >>
>> >> I know moodle and setting up the site would be easy- and if someone
>> >> wanted to teach a course I could setup the course, forums, and quizzes
>> >> etc.  I could make some beginner courses on my own- but I would need
>> >> help with more advanced subjects.
>> >>
>> >> Any thoughts? Objections? Volunteers?
>> >>
>> >> JB Skaggs
>> >
>> > Personally I think we should do what I've pushed for before - include
>> > extensively commented sample code along with gambas. We could all
>> > contribute on our own level - have a look at the wxPython demo as such
>> an
>> > sample code-base of how to use the language.
>> >
>> > Richard
>>
>> I agree, an example code/snippets site or part on the official wiki for
>> it would be much better.
>>
>> Ron_2nd.
> 
> I for one will put up my hand to contribute with simple sample programs if 
> someone will do the co-ordination. My working day (I'm in general practice
> in 
> Australia) starts at 7:30am and I finish around 6-630PM - it is so long
> that 
> I have only a few hours at night for my life, so I can't volunteer the 
> co-ordination role.
> 
> If someone could take responsibility for that, I'd be happy to be
> organised 
> and asked to contribute.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Richard
> 
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