[Gambas-user] New 64 bits incompatible change for the 2.1

[Benoit Minisini]

On mercredi 23 janvier 2008, José Luis Redrejo wrote:
> 2008/1/23, Benoit Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> > On mercredi 23 janvier 2008, José Luis Redrejo wrote:
> > > 2008/1/23, Benoit Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Why XWindow use 'long' datatype for their window handle, nobody
> > > > knows. Because
> > > > of that, window handles are 32 bits on 32 bits OS, and 64 bits on 64
> >
> > bits
> >
> > > > OS.
> > > > As if we were going to create 2^64 windows or pixmaps...
> > > >
> > > > Well, I had to create a new type of array, Pointer[], and had to
> >
> > modify
> >
> > > > all
> > > > method that deal with window handle: the Control class, the Embedder
> > > > class,
> > > > the Desktop.Find() method which now returns a Pointer array and not
> > > > an Integer array anymore, and so on.
> > > >
> > > > The good news: these methods now work indifferently on 32 bits OS and
> >
> > 64
> >
> > > > bits
> > > > OS.
> > > >
> > > > The bad news: this change is not compatible with 2.0, as the
> > > > Pointer[] class
> > > > does not exist at all in 2.0.
> > > >
> > > > But I think that a Gambas 2 that works on 64 bits OS is worth this
> >
> > little
> >
> > > > incompatibility. Ahem, no, I don't change my mind...
> > > >
> > > > -
> > >
> > > Well, we all would have prefered avoid this problem, but the 64 bits
> > > are more needed than our preferences.
> > > Anyway, what are your plans for 2.1 release? release it just after
> > > finishing 64 bits work or add more features before doing it? do you
> > > have any roadmap or dates?
> > > Regards.
> >
> > I want to finish the 64 bits work and to be able to create component
> > packages
> > with the IDE.
> >
> > At the moment, I can't really test the 64 bits version. While my new 64
> > bits
> > machine is not there (it does not depend on me), I will be able to think
> > about a release date.
>
> Ok, then I have two questions about the packages for Debian:
> - Taking a look at gambas.sourceforge.net it seems that gambas 1.0 is not
> maintained anymore, if you confirm me that's true I will ask Debian archive
> to remove those packages.

But how will you do if someone needs to run a Gambas 1.0 program?

> - I would like to upload to Debian experimental packages made from the svn
> for the users to test the 64 bits version. As they'll be in the
> experimental repository they can not damage anyone. I have only one worry
> for this: if I upload packages that can be built in more platforms than
> i386, reverting it to i386 again will have some bureocracy and would take a
> time. So, as soon as you can assure me that the 64 bits development on 2.x
> can not step back I will prepare the packages (unless you think I should
> wait a little more for these tests). I don't have a 64 bits machine, so I
> will depend on other users' tests to know if the packages work.
>
> Regards.

I don't see what you mean exactly by "the 2.1 cannot step back". 

As for the testd, I just need some testing on all Gambas examples to check 
that they all work correctly. 

I cannot do that because my 64 bits DELL machine is not there (it can take 15 
days to arrive yet), and the 64 bits Ubuntu system of Rob Kudla through ssh 
is too slow for X11 program, even with a fast connection.

I don't know if it is possible to install a NX server on Ubuntu 64 bits. If 
anybody could tell me...

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini