[Gambas-user] Re; Website ..

[ron]

On Saturday 25 August 2007 12:53, Gareth Bult wrote:
> >Is it possible with Zope to have a mirror of the site that change the skin 
> >according to the URL path? For example, http://gambasrad.org/bugtrak for the 
> >default one, and http//gambasrad.org/gambas-skin/bugtrak for the same page 
> >with the skin 'gambas-skin'.
> 
> it is, the question really is, how easy is that to manage ... I can look at setting it up if we need it ??
> (I've not done it before, but I've come across it in howto's)

With Apache I'm using mod_rewrite for something like this.

  http://www.gambasrad.org/gambas-skin/help/class
could rewritten to
  http://www.gambasrad.org//help/class?skin=gambas-skin
  http://www.gambasrad.org//help/class?en&skin=gambas-skin
Zope as server is unknown to me.

> 
> what do you want to accomplish by doing this?
> 
> if you look at my "main_template" in "Gareth", I'm looking at the site URL, and if I see "/zforum" or "/wiki" in the path, I'm using a width un-restricted version of the CSS, rather than a width restricted.
> 
> ... if the forums are not going to mirror the mailing lists, does anyone have any ideas re; subjects?
> 
> Gareth.
> --
Quick:
First time a few forums as Language, QT, GTK, KDE, GNOME, Install, Components could be
sufficient. (in a extreme case a for every component in Components)


More:
Why not mirror or use it as main input for the mail-list(s).
I do understand why Benoit wants it with the mail-list by the good argument given.

When a user of the forum enters a topic he can get by email a message about it.
When other react on his topic he can get also a email.
This announce mailling is possible on many forum systems, InvisionBoard and phpBB do have it.

I think as follows. The user enters in one of the forum sections his question.
This question is send to sourceforge (with some delay for possible edit by forum member).

Benoit answers this and sourcforge sends a mail to subscribers, gambasrad is one of them.
When users want the most quick way to Benoit and use sf direct, sf mails also gambasrad .

For the gambasrad site receiving mails from sf.
The gambas-user go to the -user forum and -devel to the -devel forum.
This looks to me the easy part and is like mirror as you had in mind (i think)

Now with the forum section(s).
Let assume we do have for the user forum sections.
  Language
  ComponentX
  ComponentY

When users enter a topic i would send to gambas-user.sf a mail with title as
  [Language] user-topic title
  [ComponentX] user-topic title
  [ComponentY-#] user-topic title

  Question: Is it easy to implement this?

As SF send the mail to the subscribers this title, with a mark, it tells to which
forum/topic it belongs and can add to that topic.
If this mark not exist it is/can be a new topic.
  Question:  Can the software makes new topics on his own for possible non members?

The example with _[ComponentY-#] user-topic title_ the # is the entry number in the topic thread.
This act more or less as the message-id in the mail-header to keep the thread in sequential order.

Just brainstorming from me.


The pro of using a forum for me is you can have several forums each specific to ask about it.
First time a few forums as Language, QT, GTK, KDE, GNOME, Install, Components could be
sufficient. (in a extreme case a for every component in Components)
Second I like the long readable discussion in a topic more as every time browsing the emails
back and up to read the stuff where they are talking about.
Third, the people mostly do a reply and let the long un-need stuff on top or bottom.

Simply it looks more clean, read more easy but at the cost of offline using it as
Benoit mentions.

Not everyone has a 24/7/365 12Mbit line as I do have.
Just remember the time in the past I switched from 33K6 modem to ISDN 128K to be able
to read the MSDN stuff for my working with VB :(

To Benoit: Your good reason for the maillist was for many people the same reason to ask 
the Online help in the developer version back on the local box as you lucky have done. :)

Sorry for the long reply, but hope contributed something usefull.

Many greets,

Ron