[Gambas-user] LICENSE FEE

[Szilard]

You are all welcome to donate via Paypal, instead of asking for a 
shrinkwrap. It's plain and clear right in your face on the front page. 
If you're using it in a commercial environment and derive a benefit from 
it, from rock stable solid apps, go ahead, donate. You decide the price.

I agree that a Windows/Mingw/Qt4 version would be nice. You could 
probably find paying customers for writing software for Windows via 
Gambas, paying you to develop a piece of app, even if it's released GPL, 
and you hand over the code too, and they can do whatever they want with 
it, including hiring someone else to improve it later if a train hits 
you, or hire you again at some later time. I don't think they are ready 
just yet to move to unix desktops, they are too hooked on Windows for 
now. I could personally use such a Gambas for Windows IDE right now, as 
Gambas is very easy and straightforward to use, while anything you 
compose with dotnet (even VB#), wxwidgets, or fltk, it's destined to 
break and take a lot of hairpulling and frustration to troubleshoot 
because of the unnecessary complexity involved, especially unnecessay 
for simple applications. And with the small scope and custom 
requirements of the clients, the GPL shouldn't be an issue in my case, 
unless they have some ideological problem against it, which I have no 
clue about.
Maybe VB dotnet 3.0 will be different. It usually takes version 3.0 for 
MS to learn and release anything usable. We're on version 2.0 of dotnet, 
so in another few years....


Rob wrote:

>On Saturday 23 July 2005 06:00, BUDI ARIEF GUSANDI wrote:
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>>I think i agree with rob, when gambas is totally mature and stable
>>for real application, then a commercial license version of gambas
>>should be there :-$ .
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>I think you have misunderstood me on a number of levels.
>
>1. What I was describing was a commercially sold but still GPL version 
>of Gambas.  Even if Benoit wanted to buy a commercial license to Qt 
>and release a proprietary version of Gambas, he couldn't, because if 
>your code was ever developed with the GPL version of Qt, the 
>commercial license will do you no good.  (For this reason, I also 
>would debate whether someone else buying a commercial license of Qt 
>would be able to legally develop proprietary Gambas/Qt applications.  
>I also wonder if the KBasic guy really threw out all his GPL KBasic 
>code prior to buying a commercial Qt license, but that's for another 
>list.)  See what Trolltech themselves have to say about that:
>
>http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/faq.html#4-3
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>2. Gambas 1.0.x is totally mature and stable enough for real 
>applications, to which any number of my clients will attest.... I've 
>had other things fail like CD's not automounting and network cards 
>flaking out, but the Gambas apps have been rock solid since about 
>version 0.80.  By the time of its release, I have every expectation 
>that Gambas 2.0 will be as well.
>
>3. What would make a commercially sold version of Gambas possible 
>would be a stable Windows port that doesn't require Cygwin, since 
>Linux-only software (other than distributions of Linux) has never 
>done well in the shrinkwrap market.  I hope that either an IDE that 
>can run under Gtk or the Windows version of Qt 4 being GPL will make 
>this possible, though as I've said previously, many of the things 
>that make Gambas powerful are Linux/Unix features and not Gtk or Qt 
>features.
>
>Of course, when that happens anyone can release a shrink-wrapped 
>version, not just Benoit, but I'm sure we could come up with some 
>"official release" graphic that we could use to indicate its proceeds 
>were benefiting Gambas and not someone like 
>http://www.luxuriousity.com/ .  (People like that usually rename the 
>free software they're selling anyway, so people don't realize they're 
>buying free software.  Check their site out, it's pretty 
>hilarious/disheartening.)
>
>Rob
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