[Gambas-devel] Gambas Database Manager - Access Denied

[Fabien]

Le Mardi 3 Juin 2003 22:17, Philip A. Chapman a écrit :
> On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 17:43, Ken Schrock wrote:
> > I disagree with his disagreement : -)
> >
> > Anybody that wants to use Gambas should know RDBMS? Why?
>
> I may not have been plain enough, but what I ment was that anybody that
> does development against an RDBMS needs to know that RDBMS.  Not
> necessarily anybody using Gambas.
>
> > I would like a lot of people to use Linux
> > Do any of these corporate types have any idea
> > How VERY difficult it is for "average" or "home" users
> > To work around all the damn security built into most Linux distros?
>
> Yes, it would be nice to have more users using Linux.  Yes it is very
> difficult for a newbie user to learn of all the *ahem* security built
> into most distros.  (Not that we are arguing about distros, but RDBMS
> systems have security as part of their nature.)  I do not think that the
> answer is to negate all of that security.  I think the answer is to make
> it easier for the user to understand and maintain that security.
>
> Must I name other OSs and other RDBMS systems that have been ruthlessly
> attacked and are known for security exploits because either they were
> not built on secure paradigms or what security they had was negated by a
> well known back door or default user/password.  The SQL server exploits
> that allowed a worm to wreak havok everywhere was not only due to admins
> that did not pay attention, but by average Joes that installed SQL
> server on their boxen connected to a DSL or cable modem.  Shame on the
> admin.  He should have known better.  What about Joe user?  Do we blame
> Joe because he didn't take the time to learn the security of SQL server,
> or was it Microsoft for not forcing people to provide a password for the
> sa account during login?
>
> Let's say Gambas becomes very popular.  I want that, don't you?  I don't
> want to see the bad publicity Gambas, Linux, and Postgresql/MySQL would
> get when a worm or hackers attack these RDBMS systems trying to log in
> with the gambas administrative level user.
>
> > If you use Linux or Gambas in an environment where security is important
> > Then you are probably getting paid for it, and should know what you are
> > doing
> > And should be able to handle the security issues that such an
> > environment entails
>
> When Joe user's system is hacked and crashes because he didn't know
> about security and did not realize that Gambas installed a back door,
> Joe user may very well no longer use Gambas OR Linux when he figures out
> what is going on.
>
> > Should Joe Blow, who wants to make a small app at home using Gambas
> > Know all about RDBMS and climb over a mountain of security to do it? NO.
>
> It would be nice for users to create small databases for personal user
> ala Microsoft Access.  However, I do not think that either PostgreSQL or
> MySQL was designed with this in mind.  Perhaps a search for a more
> suitable database engine would be in order.  I'll do some research and
> see if there are any good open source, single-user database engines that
> may fit this bill.

yop!
I search too
But... don't find this type of base..., there more simple to export... in a 
floppy disk for accounting for exemple ...

fabien

>
> > Yes, Benoit, I would like such a thing, I think most "normal" users would
> >
> > If corp users want a big security version of Gambas, sell them one : -)
>
> I respect your right to disagree.  However, I stand behind my original
> post.
>
> Thanks,