Re: About the last exchange on bugtracker

[gbWilly <gbWilly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wednesday, November 19th, 2025 at 15:55, Tim Dickson <dickson.tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> from Fabien's comments. it sounds a lot like SDL2 with a toolkit.
> steam client uses SDL2, presumably with a toolkit. that may give a
> starting point.
> that will give regular and accelerated graphics. The challange is
> interacting with other windows.
> wayland doesn't like that, so unless x-wayland is installed that will be
> a problem going forward.
> having said that, how does krdp work on wayland? there must be a way.
> 
> SDL2 has advantages that it is well supported thanks to games, is cross
> platform and lgpl licensed
> so you can make commercial as well as OpenSource software without the
> instability of gtk platform or
> potential licensing costs of qt for non-opensource stuff.
> 
> the challenge is that whatever lower level toolkit is used, it just
> becomes the replacement for gtk/qt4/5/6
> 
> I agree with gbWilly, most stuff done under the name of "security" and
> "safety" just reduces your freedom to do what you want on your pc. uefi
> and secureboot is a classic example. your os is now time limited based
> on boot loader certs issues by microsoft if secure boot is enabled. if
> not, it is more involved to get a system to boot unless it still
> supports legacy boot, and with above 4g relocated graphics entry points
> from boot, classic boot is no longer as reliable.
> Software that refuses to run as root or patronises you telling you it is
> unsafe is somewhat annoying as well. I can see why they might warn a
> noob, but not everyone wants hand-holding.
> I also like os packages, which are distro specific and managed from one
> place, rather than the bloatware of "one package for all" of flatpacks
> and snaps and suchlike. I can see why people like the convenience but
> you loose the benefits of having up to date system libs, and get a
> slower program which may as well be statically compiled, and you are
> still dependent on some (gui) system libs that are different over
> different distros. You also have to put up with kludges for
> interconnectivity on the sandboxes of each program.
> 
> oh well, hopefully gambas can manage through all the various system
> hurdles that get pushed as "the next greatest thing".
> regards, Tim

You gave some good examples of what I mean.

Thanks,

gbWilly

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