Re: Gambas and Wayland

[Brian G <brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Too much ego not enough common sense from the wayland team who just 
happen to control the desktop completely at the moment.
my red hat is off!

On 8/2/25 07:59, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> * Those who understand history are doomed to watch others repeating it.
>
> Jussi
>
>
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2025, 15:28 BB, <adamnt42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>     Only one thought, "those that do not understand history are doomed to
>     repeat it".
>
>     b
>
>     On 31/7/25 1:59 am, Benoît Minisini wrote:
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > I just read that page, named "Think twice before abandoning X11.
>     > Wayland breaks everything!".
>     >
>     > https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277
>     >
>     > As you may know, Gambas tries to create an uniform API for
>     accessing
>     > GUI toolkits, i.e. Qt and GTK+ at the moment.
>     >
>     > I had to introduce in both of them some sort of specific
>     > sub-components to handle the difference between X11 and Wayland:
>     > gb.qt6.wayland, gb.qt6.x11, gb.gtk3.wayland, and so on...
>     >
>     > And by making these components, I noticed that a lot of things
>     are not
>     > implemented in Wayland.
>     >
>     > At the beginning, I thought these missing features will be
>     implemented
>     > in the future, that they were not there because of more prioritary
>     > things to do first.
>     >
>     > But then I noticed that Wayland has now the same age than Xorg had
>     > when the development of Wayland started.
>     >
>     > And I read the document I mentioned at the beginning of the mail.
>     >
>     > Now I'm afraid that Wayland will never be fixed, and will be
>     imposed
>     > by force to the user. The exact contrary of the spirit of free
>     software.
>     >
>     > And I even not talking about the politic drama around the XLibre
>     fork.
>     >
>     > I don't want to spend hours of coding just to try to workaround
>     > Wayland limitations and the resulting incompatibilities between
>     each
>     > Wayland window manager implementations and their "desktop portal
>     > thing", whereas on X11 all window managers speaks the same language.
>     >
>     > There are some bad designs too in some of X11 protocols, but why
>     not
>     > just fixing them?
>     >
>     > What do you think?
>     >

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~~~~ Brian

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