Re: Gambas and Wayland

[Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen@xxxxxxxxx>]

* Those who understand history are doomed to watch others repeating it.

Jussi


On Sat, 2 Aug 2025, 15:28 BB, <adamnt42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Only one thought, "those that do not understand history are doomed to
> repeat it".
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> On 31/7/25 1:59 am, Benoît Minisini wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just read that page, named "Think twice before abandoning X11.
> > Wayland breaks everything!".
> >
> > https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277
> >
> > As you may know, Gambas tries to create an uniform API for accessing
> > GUI toolkits, i.e. Qt and GTK+ at the moment.
> >
> > I had to introduce in both of them some sort of specific
> > sub-components to handle the difference between X11 and Wayland:
> > gb.qt6.wayland, gb.qt6.x11, gb.gtk3.wayland, and so on...
> >
> > And by making these components, I noticed that a lot of things are not
> > implemented in Wayland.
> >
> > At the beginning, I thought these missing features will be implemented
> > in the future, that they were not there because of more prioritary
> > things to do first.
> >
> > But then I noticed that Wayland has now the same age than Xorg had
> > when the development of Wayland started.
> >
> > And I read the document I mentioned at the beginning of the mail.
> >
> > Now I'm afraid that Wayland will never be fixed, and will be imposed
> > by force to the user. The exact contrary of the spirit of free software.
> >
> > And I even not talking about the politic drama around the XLibre fork.
> >
> > I don't want to spend hours of coding just to try to workaround
> > Wayland limitations and the resulting incompatibilities between each
> > Wayland window manager implementations and their "desktop portal
> > thing", whereas on X11 all window managers speaks the same language.
> >
> > There are some bad designs too in some of X11 protocols, but why not
> > just fixing them?
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
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