Re: [Gambas-user] MUA "Reply" should not behave as "Reply List" (was Re: M/L replying to users email not the list)

[Christof Thalhofer <chrisml@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Am 05.03.24 um 20:10 schrieb T Lee Davidson:

> As I deleted the original email message, here is the reference: 
> https://lists.gambas-basic.org/archive/user/2024-03/0000072.html
>
> 'Thunderbird handles correctly "Mail-Reply-To". It makes the "Reply"
> button acts like the "Reply to list" button, avoiding the mistake not
> to answer the mailing-list.'
>
> I disagree that it is a "mistake" not to answer to the mailing-list
> when one uses the "Reply" button, but the opposite. It is a mistake
> to reply to the list when one intended to reply privately.
>
> The author of this page,
> https://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-harmful.html (the link to
> which was recently sent to me), writes about the "Principle of Least
> Surprise" and the "Principle of Least Damage". "Reply" behaving as
> "Reply List" goes against both of those principles.
>
> Users of the Thunderbird MUA, at least, should be able to customize
> its behavior to their liking. Although old, some of 
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Help_Documentation:Mail-Followup-To_and_Mail-Reply-To#Configure_Thunderbird
> may still be applicable. I do not know what the solution would be for
> users of the Gmail web interface as I do not use it.

There is no solution for the Gmail interface.

With Mailman2 we deleted the original 'Reply-To:' in a mail and instead 
inserted 'Reply-To: user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'.

This broke DKIM and some providers interpreted that as a signal that the 
mail is possibly spam.

But is was the only way to say Gmail, that it should reply to the list 
when the user hits <Reply>.

Mlmmj makes it now impossible to delete the original 'Reply-To:'-header.

So now we add this header:

'Mail-Reply-To: user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'

thanks to a proposal of D.J. Bernstein.

With that header a lot of MUAs like Thunderbird, Claws and others reply 
to 'user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx' when the user hits  <Reply>.

Not so Gmail:

The poor guys at Gmail have to live with it that they cannot hit 'Reply' 
to answer to the list. Instead they have to choose 'Reply to all' with 
which Gmail would send:

To: authors_email@domain
CC: list@listserver

Then they have to delete 'authors_email@domain' from 'To:' and move 
'list@listserver' to 'To:'.

I tried it out today at my Gmail account. No chance to make it easier there.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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