From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Oct  2 03:26:37 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 18:26:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
Message-ID: <1392275390.84779.1664673997306.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

After the last update every single piece of console software i have developed broke.......... 

What happened, I remindes me of how Ben must have felt after the llvm changed the interface.... 

Not happy 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 04:59:06 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 05:59:06 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
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I guess you are using the dev version (it should not be expected to be
stable)? And broken how?


Jussi

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 5:18 AM Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:

> After the last update every single piece of console software i have
> developed broke..........
>
> What happened, I remindes me of how Ben must have felt after the llvm
> changed the interface....
>
> Not happy
>
> "Failure is the key to success;
>  each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 10:57:18 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 09:57:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
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I'm getting the error "Wanted String got Float instead" on many of my
programs since last update.
In this line..
hImage = New Image(W * 1.2, W * 2, Color.Transparent)

And getting "Wanted Float got string instead..
see pic


On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 at 04:00, Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I guess you are using the dev version (it should not be expected to be
> stable)? And broken how?
>
>
> Jussi
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 5:18 AM Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:
>
>> After the last update every single piece of console software i have
>> developed broke..........
>>
>> What happened, I remindes me of how Ben must have felt after the llvm
>> changed the interface....
>>
>> Not happy
>>
>> "Failure is the key to success;
>>  each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
>> Brian G
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 11:23:16 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 10:23:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
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On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 at 03:18, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:

> After the last update every single piece of console software i have
> developed broke..........
>
> What happened, I remindes me of how Ben must have felt after the llvm
> changed the interface....
>
> Not happy
>
> "Failure is the key to success;
>  each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
>

Don't be unhappy Brian
We know life on the gambas development edge has it's occasional bumps.
(very occasional are they biggies like this)
We know Ben will fix it asap :)

looks to me like a Float and String mix up is the cause. probably something
to do with commit
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/13aa1311d72e97b5cbe1f529aa48b592d99b1091
or one of the other related tweaks.

Consider it just a little failure on the road to success ;)
Respects
BruceS
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Oct  2 15:37:06 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (=?UTF-8?B?QnJpYW4gRw==?=)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 16:37:06 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] 
 =?utf-8?q?After_last_update=2C_every_single_piece_?=
 =?utf-8?q?of_terminal_software_broke?=
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Not unhappy, just can not roll this out to production. Hopping there will be some sort of ability by the time this becomes mainstream to still run with existing code.
It might put some clients off if I tell them we will have to recompile every single piece of code when this version becomes an update stable...
Sorry to sound negative.
And yes after recompiling with this version and setting code version to 3.15 everything was working again.
Will try with 3.18 today and see how it goes
--
Thanks
Brian G Sunday, 02 October 2022, 02:24AM -07:00 from Bruce Steers  bsteers4 at gmail.com :

>
>
>On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 at 03:18, Brian G < brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:
>>After the last update every single piece of console software i have developed broke..........
>>
>>What happened, I remindes me of how Ben must have felt after the llvm changed the interface....
>>
>>Not happy
>>
>>"Failure is the key to success; 
>>?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
>>Brian G
>
>Don't be unhappy Brian
>We know life on the gambas development edge has it's occasional bumps. (very occasional are they biggies like this)
>We know Ben will fix it asap :)
>
>looks to me like a Float and String mix up is the cause. probably something to do with commit  https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/13aa1311d72e97b5cbe1f529aa48b592d99b1091 or one of the other related tweaks.
>
>Consider it just a little failure on the road to success ;)
>Respects
>BruceS
>
>
>
>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Sun Oct  2 16:39:11 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 16:39:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] GNU Plot Utils to print
Message-ID: <9b9bbef7-6b92-b17c-154e-97278632cb5b@belmotek.net>

Hi,
I am trying to print with GNU Plot Utils [1] and although I am able to 
print, I can't find the right way to control the scale, line width, etc.

Basically in Gambas side, I prepare a text file that has some specific 
instructions then in the terminal using a command and that file I get a 
PS file and then I send it to the printer or I can convert it to a PDF.

Does anyone know these tools?

[1] https://www.gnu.org/software/plotutils/

Thanks
Martin.

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Oct  2 15:53:47 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (=?UTF-8?B?QnJpYW4gRw==?=)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 16:53:47 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] 
 =?utf-8?q?After_last_update=2C_every_single_piece_?=
 =?utf-8?q?of_terminal_software_broke?=
In-Reply-To: <1664717826.775755276@f14.my.com>
References: <1392275390.84779.1664673997306.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
 <CABuQYCA=eExTdSn4c=q8L7mdhno7244V5SAQDDhd15qusniFHQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <1664717826.775755276@f14.my.com>
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Also had to recompile all gui apps, even though from previous updates they were compiled to force 
3.15 ummm
They just did nothing when attempting to run them before recompiling
--
Thanks
Brian G Sunday, 02 October 2022, 06:37AM -07:00 from Brian G  brian at westwoodsvcs.com :

>Not unhappy, just can not roll this out to production. Hopping there will be some sort of ability by the time this becomes mainstream to still run with existing code.
>It might put some clients off if I tell them we will have to recompile every single piece of code when this version becomes an update stable...
>Sorry to sound negative.
>And yes after recompiling with this version and setting code version to 3.15 everything was working again.
>Will try with 3.18 today and see how it goes
>--
>Thanks
>Brian G Sunday, 02 October 2022, 02:24AM -07:00 from Bruce Steers  bsteers4 at gmail.com :
>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 at 03:18, Brian G < brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:
>>>After the last update every single piece of console software i have developed broke..........
>>>
>>>What happened, I remindes me of how Ben must have felt after the llvm changed the interface....
>>>
>>>Not happy
>>>
>>>"Failure is the key to success; 
>>>?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
>>>Brian G
>>
>>Don't be unhappy Brian
>>We know life on the gambas development edge has it's occasional bumps. (very occasional are they biggies like this)
>>We know Ben will fix it asap :)
>>
>>looks to me like a Float and String mix up is the cause. probably something to do with commit  https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/13aa1311d72e97b5cbe1f529aa48b592d99b1091 or one of the other related tweaks.
>>
>>Consider it just a little failure on the road to success ;)
>>Respects
>>BruceS
>>
>>
>>
>>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sun Oct  2 18:00:51 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 18:00:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
In-Reply-To: <1392275390.84779.1664673997306.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <1392275390.84779.1664673997306.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
Message-ID: <5e53696e-d744-a1e3-f052-1c596871ff8c@gambas-basic.org>

Le 02/10/2022 ? 03:26, Brian G a ?crit?:
> After the last update every single piece of console software i have 
> developed broke..........
> 
> What happened, I remindes me of how Ben must have felt after the llvm 
> changed the interface....
> 
> Not happy
> 
> "Failure is the key to success;
>  ?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Can you send a project that crashes?

Do you use the JIT compiler? (i.e. have you disabled it or not?)

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sun Oct  2 18:01:34 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 18:01:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas packager warning for Debian 12 derivations.
In-Reply-To: <a3cf71d2-c436-9666-75b6-cb7b691a5cfe@belmotek.net>
References: <a3cf71d2-c436-9666-75b6-cb7b691a5cfe@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <64eaf0ff-f98a-8262-512e-1815aa3a46fa@gambas-basic.org>

Le 29/09/2022 ? 19:46, Martin a ?crit?:
> Hi,
> There are, maybe, an error in the Package.module [1] because in 12 
> version is not supported the compatibility for version 9
> The constant:
> Private Const DEBIAN_DEBHELPER_VERSION As String = "9"
> 
> maybe should be:
> Private Const DEBIAN_DEBHELPER_VERSION As String = "10"
> 
> Why is a constant ?
> Shouldn't it be a variable that depends on the system on which gambas is 
> installed?
> 
> [1] 
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/blob/master/app/src/gambas3/.src/Packager/Package.module
> 
> Thanks.
> Mart?n.
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

I don't know, I didn't write the debian package generator.

What does this constant mean?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From dovey.john at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 18:32:31 2022
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 11:32:31 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] GNU Plot Utils to print
In-Reply-To: <9b9bbef7-6b92-b17c-154e-97278632cb5b@belmotek.net>
References: <9b9bbef7-6b92-b17c-154e-97278632cb5b@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <CALb7m+kgqM-9hbRqwPpZpwHXpEKnJ8TZQvPHqzeaZACQYOFBNw@mail.gmail.com>

I'd love to see native calls to this in Gambas.

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 9:40 AM Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> I am trying to print with GNU Plot Utils [1] and although I am able to
> print, I can't find the right way to control the scale, line width, etc.
>
> Basically in Gambas side, I prepare a text file that has some specific
> instructions then in the terminal using a command and that file I get a
> PS file and then I send it to the printer or I can convert it to a PDF.
>
> Does anyone know these tools?
>
> [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/plotutils/
>
> Thanks
> Martin.
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Sun Oct  2 18:37:38 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 18:37:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas packager warning for Debian 12 derivations.
In-Reply-To: <64eaf0ff-f98a-8262-512e-1815aa3a46fa@gambas-basic.org>
References: <a3cf71d2-c436-9666-75b6-cb7b691a5cfe@belmotek.net>
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El 2/10/22 a las 18:01, Benoit Minisini escribi?:
> 
> I don't know, I didn't write the debian package generator.
> 
> What does this constant mean?

I'm not completely sure, but I think that constant indicates the 
compatibility of the package with respect to older versions of the 
debhelper debian package, but it affects all debian-derived distributions.
as debhelper changes this (the compatibility) every two years I think 
the package maker changes the constant, by hand, in the gambas source 
code every time it is necessary and now (debian version 9 is obsolete) 
but maybe it would be better that the parameter is adjusted according to 
the system or that it allows to modify it in the package generator 
configuration if it has it.
I wrote this email because someone in gambas-es forum had this problem 
with some warnings, but I use Manjaro so I can't do a test.
I think that changing the parameter from 9 to 10 manually would solve 
the problem, at least for a couple of years.

Martin.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sun Oct  2 19:00:24 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 19:00:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas packager warning for Debian 12 derivations.
In-Reply-To: <0eefd521-4f32-7625-b21b-1b163a2fb0fe@belmotek.net>
References: <a3cf71d2-c436-9666-75b6-cb7b691a5cfe@belmotek.net>
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Le 02/10/2022 ? 18:37, Martin a ?crit?:
> El 2/10/22 a las 18:01, Benoit Minisini escribi?:
>>
>> I don't know, I didn't write the debian package generator.
>>
>> What does this constant mean?
> 
> I'm not completely sure, but I think that constant indicates the 
> compatibility of the package with respect to older versions of the 
> debhelper debian package, but it affects all debian-derived distributions.
> as debhelper changes this (the compatibility) every two years I think 
> the package maker changes the constant, by hand, in the gambas source 
> code every time it is necessary and now (debian version 9 is obsolete) 
> but maybe it would be better that the parameter is adjusted according to 
> the system or that it allows to modify it in the package generator 
> configuration if it has it.
> I wrote this email because someone in gambas-es forum had this problem 
> with some warnings, but I use Manjaro so I can't do a test.
> I think that changing the parameter from 9 to 10 manually would solve 
> the problem, at least for a couple of years.
> 
> Martin.
> 

OK. I will try and we will see.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Oct  2 20:31:05 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (=?UTF-8?B?QnJpYW4gRw==?=)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 21:31:05 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] 
 =?utf-8?q?After_last_update=2C_every_single_piece_?=
 =?utf-8?q?of_terminal_software_broke?=
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Hi Ben 
Sending a project that crashes would be difficult because as soon as you open the project and run it the project is recompiled therefore running correctly.
I can send a binary archive, that may fail would that help?
--
Thanks
Brian G Sunday, 02 October 2022, 09:01AM -07:00 from Benoit Minisini  benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org :

>Le 02/10/2022 ? 03:26, Brian G a ?crit?:
> After the last update every single piece of console software i have 
> developed broke..........
>
> What happened, I remindes me of how Ben must have felt after the llvm 
> changed the interface....
>
> Not happy
>
> "Failure is the key to success;
> ?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
>
>
> ----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>Can you send a project that crashes?
>
>Do you use the JIT compiler? (i.e. have you disabled it or not?)
>
>-- 
>Beno?t Minisini.
>
>
>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 20:34:58 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 21:34:58 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
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Sounds like an incompatible bytecode. Why just not recompile everything?

Jussi


On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 9:33 PM Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:

> Hi Ben
>
> Sending a project that crashes would be difficult because as soon as you
> open the project and run it the project is recompiled therefore running
> correctly.
>
> I can send a binary archive, that may fail would that help?
>
> --
> Thanks
> Brian G
> Sunday, 02 October 2022, 09:01AM -07:00 from Benoit Minisini
> benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org:
>
> Le 02/10/2022 ? 03:26, Brian G a ?crit :
> > After the last update every single piece of console software i have
> > developed broke..........
> >
> > What happened, I remindes me of how Ben must have felt after the llvm
> > changed the interface....
> >
> > Not happy
> >
> > "Failure is the key to success;
> >  each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> > Brian G
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> Can you send a project that crashes?
>
> Do you use the JIT compiler? (i.e. have you disabled it or not?)
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sun Oct  2 21:20:13 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 21:20:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
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Le 02/10/2022 ? 20:34, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit?:
> Sounds like an incompatible bytecode. Why just not recompile everything?
> 
> Jussi
> 
> 

Yes, it's that. The recent optimizations introduce bytecode changes 
again, so without recompiling, it crashes.

The interpreter can only check if bytecode was compiled before 3.18 or 
not to adapt, and so bytecode changes introduced during the 3.18 (the 
development version in other words) require compiling again.

Sorry for the inconvenience!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 21:32:52 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 20:32:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
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The program attached is not working even after compiling

Type mismatch: wanted String got Float instead.
Line 331
hImage = New Image(W * 1.2, W * 2, Color.Transparent)

Nothing should be a string.



On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 at 20:26, Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Le 02/10/2022 ? 20:34, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit :
> > Sounds like an incompatible bytecode. Why just not recompile everything?
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> >
>
> Yes, it's that. The recent optimizations introduce bytecode changes
> again, so without recompiling, it crashes.
>
> The interpreter can only check if bytecode was compiled before 3.18 or
> not to adapt, and so bytecode changes introduced during the 3.18 (the
> development version in other words) require compiling again.
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience!
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 23:40:46 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 22:40:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
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On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 at 20:32, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The program attached is not working even after compiling
>
> Type mismatch: wanted String got Float instead.
> Line 331
> hImage = New Image(W * 1.2, W * 2, Color.Transparent)
>
> Nothing should be a string.
>

Hmm , seems i'm not getting this bug on master just on my own version?
what the heck?
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Mon Oct  3 00:19:21 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 01:19:21 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
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Looking back at the pic of the error message, it comes from the IDE..? Did
you edit it?

Jussi

On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 12:41 AM Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 at 20:32, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The program attached is not working even after compiling
>>
>> Type mismatch: wanted String got Float instead.
>> Line 331
>> hImage = New Image(W * 1.2, W * 2, Color.Transparent)
>>
>> Nothing should be a string.
>>
>
> Hmm , seems i'm not getting this bug on master just on my own version?
> what the heck?
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Mon Oct  3 04:08:14 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (=?UTF-8?B?QnJpYW4gRw==?=)
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 05:08:14 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] 
 =?utf-8?q?After_last_update=2C_every_single_piece_?=
 =?utf-8?q?of_terminal_software_broke?=
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The problem comes when the 3.18 hits the stable. And the clients whom can not compile, end up with no working applications......
It is a real problem. Even apps compiled with 3.15 because of previous problems failed when executed.
This is a very big issue, and not just an inconvenience .
We can not even compile early...
--
Thanks
Brian G Sunday, 02 October 2022, 03:20PM -07:00 from Jussi Lahtinen  jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com :

>Looking back at the pic of the error message, it comes from the IDE..? Did you edit it?
>
>Jussi
>
>On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 12:41 AM Bruce Steers < bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 at 20:32, Bruce Steers < bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>The program attached is not working even after compiling
>>>
>>>Type mismatch: wanted String got Float instead.
>>>Line 331
>>>hImage = New Image(W * 1.2, W * 2, Color.Transparent)
>>>
>>>Nothing should be a string.
>>
>>Hmm , seems i'm not getting this bug on master just on my own version?
>>what the heck?
>>
>>
>>
>>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Mon Oct  3 05:03:01 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 06:03:01 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
In-Reply-To: <1664762894.754247078@f37.my.com>
References: <1392275390.84779.1664673997306.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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I'm not sure what you mean. If you provide open source software, you can
write a launcher script that compiles the software every time at the start.
It should be ready in under a second.
However, if it is closed source, then you should be careful to package the
software to depend on the compatible Gambas version (the standard way!). If
that is not possible for some reason, then you should inform the client
that they need an updated version of your software, if they need to use a
newer Gambas version.

Jussi


On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 5:30 AM Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:

> The problem comes when the 3.18 hits the stable. And the clients whom can
> not compile, end up with no working applications......
>
> It is a real problem. Even apps compiled with 3.15 because of previous
> problems failed when executed.
>
> This is a very big issue, and not just an inconvenience .
>
> We can not even compile early...
>
> --
> Thanks
> Brian G
> Sunday, 02 October 2022, 03:20PM -07:00 from Jussi Lahtinen
> jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com:
>
> Looking back at the pic of the error message, it comes from the IDE..? Did
> you edit it?
>
> Jussi
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 12:41 AM Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 at 20:32, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The program attached is not working even after compiling
>
> Type mismatch: wanted String got Float instead.
> Line 331
> hImage = New Image(W * 1.2, W * 2, Color.Transparent)
>
> Nothing should be a string.
>
>
> Hmm , seems i'm not getting this bug on master just on my own version?
> what the heck?
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From chabotdaniel at orange.fr  Mon Oct  3 07:20:41 2022
From: chabotdaniel at orange.fr (Chab)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 07:20:41 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [CRASH REPORT] Notes Like Post-it
Message-ID: <d492d6b2-4d3b-1c9d-22d0-238fbbc1be6d@orange.fr>

Hello,

Since Lasts Update


Damned, my program crashed Gambas that way :

Probleme avec op?rateur _*NEW *_
Impossible de g?n?rer des paquets d'installation
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  3 11:45:21 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:45:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
In-Reply-To: <1664762894.754247078@f37.my.com>
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 03:30, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:

> The problem comes when the 3.18 hits the stable. And the clients whom can
> not compile, end up with no working applications......
>
> It is a real problem. Even apps compiled with 3.15 because of previous
> problems failed when executed.
>
> This is a very big issue, and not just an inconvenience .
>
> We can not even compile early...
>
> --
> Thanks
> Brian G
>
I have reverted the new "optimizations" in the interpreter that screwed
everything up for me.
down to commit
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/commit/0632fa8d8914959643ec7547b4542cff0bf1f9e8
Now my gambas works again.

It's weird, With the optimizations Ben did i can install "master" branch
from the gambas/gambas gitlab and do not get issues (except none of my
custom gambas modifications exist)

But my bruces-patched branch AND the "master" branch from bsteers4/gambas
give problems (float/string mix up) and the master branch "should" be the
same as gambas/gambas master with git pull upstream master ?? :-\

V odd.

Appologies if i'm hijacking your thread Bri , it's just occurred to me i
might be getting a completely different issue to you as mine seems to be
Floats and Strings being mixed up somehow and not pcode version errors I
can recompile out of :-\

Respects
BruceS
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Mon Oct  3 12:15:46 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 12:15:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
In-Reply-To: <1664762894.754247078@f37.my.com>
References: <1392275390.84779.1664673997306.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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Le 03/10/2022 ? 04:08, Brian G a ?crit?:
> The problem comes when the 3.18 hits the stable. And the clients whom 
> can not compile, end up with no working applications......
> 
> It is a real problem. Even apps compiled with 3.15 because of previous 
> problems failed when executed.
> 
> This is a very big issue, and not just an inconvenience .
> 
> We can not even compile early...
> 
> --
> Thanks
> Brian G
> 

The interpreter from master should run bytecode from earlier versions 
without crashing, otherwise it's a bug.

What I told you is different: the master interpreter crashes when 
running bycode compiled with an *early* version of the master (which has 
the 3.18 version too).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Mon Oct  3 12:19:22 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 12:19:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
In-Reply-To: <4bc94ab4-383e-200d-6aea-d98037bbb75c@gambas-basic.org>
References: <1392275390.84779.1664673997306.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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Le 03/10/2022 ? 12:15, Benoit Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 03/10/2022 ? 04:08, Brian G a ?crit?:
>> The problem comes when the 3.18 hits the stable. And the clients whom 
>> can not compile, end up with no working applications......
>>
>> It is a real problem. Even apps compiled with 3.15 because of previous 
>> problems failed when executed.
>>
>> This is a very big issue, and not just an inconvenience .
>>
>> We can not even compile early...
>>
>> -- 
>> Thanks
>> Brian G
>>
> 
> The interpreter from master should run bytecode from earlier versions 
> without crashing, otherwise it's a bug.
> 
> What I told you is different: the master interpreter crashes when 
> running bycode compiled with an *early* version of the master (which has 
> the 3.18 version too).
> 
> Regards,
> 

If you have a project compiled before 3.18 that crashes, please send it 
me so that I can fix the bug.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Mon Oct  3 12:20:34 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 12:20:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [CRASH REPORT] Notes Like Post-it
In-Reply-To: <d492d6b2-4d3b-1c9d-22d0-238fbbc1be6d@orange.fr>
References: <d492d6b2-4d3b-1c9d-22d0-238fbbc1be6d@orange.fr>
Message-ID: <dfe5f3d1-b059-b251-3dd6-1139c5fc843a@gambas-basic.org>

Le 03/10/2022 ? 07:20, Chab a ?crit?:
> Hello,
> 
> Since Lasts Update
> 
> 
> Damned, my program crashed Gambas that way :
> 
> Probleme avec op?rateur _*NEW *_
> Impossible de g?n?rer des paquets d'installation
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Hi,

Can you send me the full project?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Mon Oct  3 13:47:32 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 13:47:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] After last update,
 every single piece of terminal software broke
In-Reply-To: <97bac80e-7828-0eec-f034-5deb120a8479@gambas-basic.org>
References: <1392275390.84779.1664673997306.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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Le 03/10/2022 ? 12:19, Benoit Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 03/10/2022 ? 12:15, Benoit Minisini a ?crit?:
>> Le 03/10/2022 ? 04:08, Brian G a ?crit?:
>>> The problem comes when the 3.18 hits the stable. And the clients whom 
>>> can not compile, end up with no working applications......
>>>
>>> It is a real problem. Even apps compiled with 3.15 because of 
>>> previous problems failed when executed.
>>>
>>> This is a very big issue, and not just an inconvenience .
>>>
>>> We can not even compile early...
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Thanks
>>> Brian G
>>>
>>
>> The interpreter from master should run bytecode from earlier versions 
>> without crashing, otherwise it's a bug.
>>
>> What I told you is different: the master interpreter crashes when 
>> running bycode compiled with an *early* version of the master (which 
>> has the 3.18 version too).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
> 
> If you have a project compiled before 3.18 that crashes, please send it 
> me so that I can fix the bug.
> 

The last commit should fix your bug.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From wig at noxqs.org  Mon Oct  3 14:49:04 2022
From: wig at noxqs.org (wig)
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 14:49:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Settings problem (crash)
Message-ID: <cac36b6b3a74655defc29ca6e5963ce4@noxqs.org>

 

In a big project, when retrieving settings, I started to have the error
message: 

"Not an array (23)" 

in FMain 2288:
 Settings["Report/TitlesOn"] = mniReportTitles.Checked 

I checked the syntax again and again, but had it on all instances of use
of settings from then on, in FMain. Not in my FAbout. 

The project used several libraries, settings for database access, menu
state etc, so it took me about a week to trim out all non-relevant
possibilities. 

Now I have the demonstration of the problem in this small project, where
I just save and retrieve a counter in the settings:
SettingsProblem-0.0.1.tar.gz. 

The program crashes on it except when I use Try in front of the settings
line. 
 
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  3 15:34:51 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 14:34:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] only using bytecode 3.18 works for me now
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAhSH7z2tDjaVQGW-nyKMyUBcO3+dBWhhYy1yTuP0XD2g@mail.gmail.com>

forcing bytecode to ANYTHING other than 3.18 causes problems now.

All of my software that has backward compatibilty will no longer work if
bytecode has been explicitly set.
if i remove the "force bytecode" option or set it to 3.18 it works again.
but there goes backward compatibility.

GB_PCODE_VERSION is very broken.

BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  3 15:36:29 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 14:36:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] only using bytecode 3.18 works for me now
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 14:34, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> forcing bytecode to ANYTHING other than 3.18 causes problems now.
>
> All of my software that has backward compatibilty will no longer work if
> bytecode has been explicitly set.
> if i remove the "force bytecode" option or set it to 3.18 it works again.
> but there goes backward compatibility.
>
> GB_PCODE_VERSION is very broken.
>
> BruceS
>

PS. I am not using my own branch I am now using gambas/gambas master
problems galore.
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Mon Oct  3 16:44:29 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 16:44:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] only using bytecode 3.18 works for me now
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAhSH7z2tDjaVQGW-nyKMyUBcO3+dBWhhYy1yTuP0XD2g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <52a8bf02-3194-1350-3937-b1ec0932c23f@gambas-basic.org>

Le 03/10/2022 ? 15:34, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> forcing bytecode to ANYTHING other than 3.18 causes problems now.
> 
> All of my software that has backward compatibilty will no longer work if 
> bytecode has been explicitly set.
> if i remove the "force bytecode" option or set it to 3.18 it works 
> again. but there goes backward compatibility.
> 
> GB_PCODE_VERSION is very broken.
> 
> BruceS
> 

I have just compiled a web application with master by setting 
GB_PCODE_VERSION to 3.8, and installed it on several servers using older 
versions of Gambas, and everything seems to work as expected.

Can you explain what does not work exactly, and, more important, send me 
a compiled project (the '*.gambas' file) that crashes, and the version 
of the interpreter running the compiled project that crashes?

Thanks!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  3 18:13:32 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 17:13:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] only using bytecode 3.18 works for me now
In-Reply-To: <52a8bf02-3194-1350-3937-b1ec0932c23f@gambas-basic.org>
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Okay,  attached is the MyTemp.gambas exe compiled on master with pcode set
to 3.8
also the project.

it errors on line 331
    hImage = New Image(W * 1.2, W * 2, Color.Transparent)

It says...
Type mismatch, wanted String, got Float instead

if remove pcode settings and compile-all then it works.

Ps. i have fully uninstalled my gambas and deleted all the binary
files/libs/etc then re-installed master from cloning your gitlab repo so my
mods are nowhere in sight.

BruceS


gambas/system info...
[System]
Gambas=3.17.90 d7e373c63 (master)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.15.0-48-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Linux Mint 21 Vanessa
Desktop=MATE
Font=Ubuntu,12
Scale=9
Theme=mist
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=11928M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.7.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.13
GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.33
GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.29
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.2003.0
GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.33
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.29
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.118.0.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.97.0.0
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.15.3
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6

[Environment]
CLUTTER_BACKEND=x11
CLUTTER_IM_MODULE=ibus
COMPIZ_CONFIG_PROFILE=mint
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
DEFAULTS_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/mate.default.path
DESKTOP_SESSION=mate
DISPLAY=:0
EDITOR=pluma
GB_GUI=gb.gtk3
GDMSESSION=mate
GDM_LANG=en_GB
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=<home>/Desktop/gambas3.desktop
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=9596
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
GTK3_MODULES=xapp-gtk3-module
GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus
GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
HOME=<home>
INSIDE_CAJA_PYTHON=
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8
LIBVIRT_DEFAULT_URI=qemu:///system
LOGNAME=<user>
MANDATORY_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/mate.mandatory.path
MATE_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
PAPERSIZE=a4
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin
PWD=<home>
QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
QT_FONT_DPI=96
QT_IM_MODULE=ibus
QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1
SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/5596,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/5596
SHELL=/bin/bash
SHLVL=0
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
TZ=:/etc/localtime
USER=<user>
XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-mate:/etc/xdg
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=MATE
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/mate:/usr/share/mate:/usr/share/gnome:<home>/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
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XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SEAT=seat0
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XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=mate
XDG_SESSION_ID=c1
XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
XDG_VTNR=7
XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 15:45, Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Le 03/10/2022 ? 15:34, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > forcing bytecode to ANYTHING other than 3.18 causes problems now.
> >
> > All of my software that has backward compatibilty will no longer work if
> > bytecode has been explicitly set.
> > if i remove the "force bytecode" option or set it to 3.18 it works
> > again. but there goes backward compatibility.
> >
> > GB_PCODE_VERSION is very broken.
> >
> > BruceS
> >
>
> I have just compiled a web application with master by setting
> GB_PCODE_VERSION to 3.8, and installed it on several servers using older
> versions of Gambas, and everything seems to work as expected.
>
> Can you explain what does not work exactly, and, more important, send me
> a compiled project (the '*.gambas' file) that crashes, and the version
> of the interpreter running the compiled project that crashes?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Mon Oct  3 19:11:54 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 19:11:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] only using bytecode 3.18 works for me now
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCe-50L8SG=bSx3bZ-UKqn2+i0CXjFVBK3vJf9hjyeUiw@mail.gmail.com>
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Le 03/10/2022 ? 18:13, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> Okay,? attached is the MyTemp.gambas exe compiled on master with pcode 
> set to 3.8
> also the project.
> 
> it errors on line 331
>  ? ? hImage = New Image(W * 1.2, W * 2, Color.Transparent)
> 
> It says...
> Type mismatch, wanted String, got Float instead
> 
> if remove pcode settings and compile-all then it works.
> 
> Ps. i have fully uninstalled my gambas and deleted all the binary 
> files/libs/etc then re-installed master from cloning your gitlab repo so 
> my mods are nowhere in sight.
> 
> BruceS
> 

Thanks! It should be fixed with last commit.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  4 00:26:43 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 23:26:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] only using bytecode 3.18 works for me now
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 18:13, Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Le 03/10/2022 ? 18:13, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > Okay,  attached is the MyTemp.gambas exe compiled on master with pcode
> > set to 3.8
> > also the project.
> >
> > it errors on line 331
> >      hImage = New Image(W * 1.2, W * 2, Color.Transparent)
> >
> > It says...
> > Type mismatch, wanted String, got Float instead
> >
> > if remove pcode settings and compile-all then it works.
> >
> > Ps. i have fully uninstalled my gambas and deleted all the binary
> > files/libs/etc then re-installed master from cloning your gitlab repo so
> > my mods are nowhere in sight.
> >
> > BruceS
> >
>
> Thanks! It should be fixed with last commit.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>

aaah phew :)
Thank you kind sir, yep all working again now :)

Respects
BruceS
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Tue Oct  4 01:07:28 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 01:07:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] only using bytecode 3.18 works for me now
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Le 04/10/2022 ? 00:26, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> aaah phew :)
> Thank you kind sir, yep all working again now :)
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

Do not talk too fast, new optimizations just arrived! :-)

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Oct  4 08:35:00 2022
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 08:35:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] only using bytecode 3.18 works for me now
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Am 04.10.22 um 01:07 schrieb Benoit Minisini:

> Le 04/10/2022 ? 00:26, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
>>
>> aaah phew :)
>> Thank you kind sir, yep all working again now :)
>>
>> Respects
>> BruceS
>>
> 
> Do not talk too fast, new optimizations just arrived! :-)

Poor BruceS ;-)

Joking aside, I see that there's a webpage in the wiki that documents 
how to handle problems with bytecode changes, here:

https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/compat

But is there any documentation what versions exist and how they differ?

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Tue Oct  4 09:32:40 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 09:32:40 +0200
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Le 04/10/2022 ? 08:35, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
> Am 04.10.22 um 01:07 schrieb Benoit Minisini:
> 
>> Le 04/10/2022 ? 00:26, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
>>>
>>> aaah phew :)
>>> Thank you kind sir, yep all working again now :)
>>>
>>> Respects
>>> BruceS
>>>
>>
>> Do not talk too fast, new optimizations just arrived! :-)
> 
> Poor BruceS ;-)
> 
> Joking aside, I see that there's a webpage in the wiki that documents 
> how to handle problems with bytecode changes, here:
> 
> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/compat
> 
> But is there any documentation what versions exist and how they differ?
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
> Christof Thalhofer
> 

No, I was too lazy to write it. The different bytecode versions are 
listed in the combo-box of the "force bytecode version" project option 
dialog.

And again : the interpreter must be backward-compatible, i.e. it must be 
able to run any older bytecode version.

Another remind: The "force bytecode version" is an option for the 
compiler, not the interpreter. It forces the compiler not to emit 
opcodes for new bytecode versions, but it's not fully reliable, ad 
explained in the tooltip.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  4 09:53:55 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 08:53:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] only using bytecode 3.18 works for me now
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 at 08:33, Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Le 04/10/2022 ? 08:35, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit :
> > Am 04.10.22 um 01:07 schrieb Benoit Minisini:
> >
> >> Le 04/10/2022 ? 00:26, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >>>
> >>> aaah phew :)
> >>> Thank you kind sir, yep all working again now :)
> >>>
> >>> Respects
> >>> BruceS
> >>>
> >>
> >> Do not talk too fast, new optimizations just arrived! :-)
> >
> > Poor BruceS ;-)
> >
> > Joking aside, I see that there's a webpage in the wiki that documents
> > how to handle problems with bytecode changes, here:
> >
> > https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/compat
> >
> > But is there any documentation what versions exist and how they differ?
> >
> > Alles Gute
> >
> > Christof Thalhofer
> >
>
> No, I was too lazy to write it. The different bytecode versions are
> listed in the combo-box of the "force bytecode version" project option
> dialog.
>
> And again : the interpreter must be backward-compatible, i.e. it must be
> able to run any older bytecode version.
>
> Another remind: The "force bytecode version" is an option for the
> compiler, not the interpreter. It forces the compiler not to emit
> opcodes for new bytecode versions, but it's not fully reliable, ad
> explained in the tooltip.



Oh sorry , that version info lol..
Yeah seems to be 3.8, 3.15 & 3.18 only.

I've mostly only wanted to go back as far as 3.12 for compatibility (old
debian default) and found I had to set it to 3.8 to get it to work as
setting GB_PCODE_VERSION to 3.12 didn't work. So my progs are 3.12
compatible not 3.8 but meh , it's cool :)

And yesterday , everything seemed to stop working yesterday till Ben fixed
the glitch.
:)
Respects
BruceS
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From wig at noxqs.org  Tue Oct  4 11:09:00 2022
From: wig at noxqs.org (wig)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2022 11:09:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Settings problem (crash)
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Additional information: crash confirmed in Gambas 3.14.3 and Gambas
3.17.3 

System information of 3.14.3 added below. 

wig schreef op 2022-10-03 14:49: 

> In a big project, when retrieving settings, I started to have the error message: 
> 
> "Not an array (23)" 
> 
> in FMain 2288:
> Settings["Report/TitlesOn"] = mniReportTitles.Checked 
> 
> I checked the syntax again and again, but had it on all instances of use of settings from then on, in FMain. Not in my FAbout. 
> 
> The project used several libraries, settings for database access, menu state etc, so it took me about a week to trim out all non-relevant possibilities. 
> 
> Now I have the demonstration of the problem in this small project, where I just save and retrieve a counter in the settings: SettingsProblem-0.0.1.tar.gz. 
> 
> The program crashes on it except when I use Try in front of the settings line. 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette [1] ]----

[System]
Gambas=3.14.3
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.3.18-150300.59.93-default
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=SuSE NAME="openSUSE Leap"
VERSION="15.3"
ID="opensuse-leap"
ID_LIKE="suse opensuse"
VERSION_ID="15.3"
PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE Leap 15.3"
ANSI_COLOR="0;32"
CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:opensuse:leap:15.3"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.opensuse.org"
HOME_URL="https://www.opensuse.org/"
Desktop=KDE5
Theme=Breeze
Language=nl_BE.UTF-8
Memory=15906M

[Libraries]
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.4
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.12.7-5.12.7-lp152.3.16.1.x86_64.debug

[Environment]
AUDIODRIVER=pulseaudio
BASH_FUNC_mc%%=() { . /usr/share/mc/mc-wrapper.sh
}
COLORTERM=1
CONFIG_SITE=/usr/share/site/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
CPU=x86_64
CSHEDIT=emacs
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
DESKTOP_SESSION=/usr/share/xsessions/default
DISPLAY=:0
FROM_HEADER=
GB_GUI=gb.qt5
GPG_TTY=not a tty
GTK2_MODULES=unity-gtk-module
GTK3_MODULES=unity-gtk-module
GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus
GTK_MODULES=canberra-gtk-module
G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1
G_FILENAME_ENCODING=@locale,UTF-8,ISO-8859-15,CP1252
HISTSIZE=1000
HOME=<home>
HOST=<hostname>
HOSTNAME=<hostname>
HOSTTYPE=x86_64
INPUT_METHOD=ibus
JAVA_BINDIR=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.8.0-openjdk/bin
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.8.0-openjdk
JAVA_ROOT=/usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.8.0-openjdk
JRE_HOME=/usr/lib64/jvm/java-11-openjdk-11
KDE_FULL_SESSION=true
KDE_SESSION_UID=1000
KDE_SESSION_VERSION=5
LANG=nl_BE.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=nl_BE.UTF-8
LESS=-M -I -R
LESSCLOSE=lessclose.sh %s %s
LESSKEY=/etc/lesskey.bin
LESSOPEN=lessopen.sh %s
LESS_ADVANCED_PREPROCESSOR=no
LOGNAME=<user>
MACHTYPE=x86_64-suse-linux
MAIL=/var/spool/mail/<user>
MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/share/man
MINICOM=-c on
MORE=-sl
OSTYPE=linux
PAGER=less
PATH=<home>/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
PROFILEREAD=true
PWD=<home>
PYTHONSTARTUP=/etc/pythonstart
QEMU_AUDIO_DRV=pa
QT4_IM_MODULE=xim
QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0
QT_IM_MODULE=ibus
QT_IM_SWITCHER=imsw-multi
QT_SYSTEM_DIR=/usr/share/desktop-data
SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/16061,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/16061
SHELL=/bin/bash
SHLVL=0
SSH_AGENT_PID=16011
SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/lib/ssh/ssh-askpass
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-WMGImz87IXdC/agent.15966
TERM=xterm
TZ=:/etc/localtime
UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=1
USER=<user>
WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/bin/startplasma-x11
XAUTHLOCALHOSTNAME=<hostname>
XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
XCURSOR_THEME=breeze_cursors
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=KDE
XDG_DATA_DIRS=<home>/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=KDE
XDG_SESSION_ID=1
XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
XDG_VTNR=7
XKEYSYMDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB
XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus
XNLSPATH=/usr/share/X11/nls
XSESSION_IS_UP=yes 
 

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  4 09:37:02 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 08:37:02 +0100
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 at 07:42, Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de> wrote:

> Am 04.10.22 um 01:07 schrieb Benoit Minisini:
>
> > Le 04/10/2022 ? 00:26, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >>
> >> aaah phew :)
> >> Thank you kind sir, yep all working again now :)
> >>
> >> Respects
> >> BruceS
> >>
> >
> > Do not talk too fast, new optimizations just arrived! :-)
>
> Poor BruceS ;-)
>
> Joking aside, I see that there's a webpage in the wiki that documents
> how to handle problems with bytecode changes, here:
>
> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/compat
>
> But is there any documentation what versions exist and how they differ?
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>

Yes,  I wrote that page when Benoit first told me about the
GB_PCODE_VERSION "trick" many moons ago :)

I think the only doc for changes is the change log
I should probably add to that page that the best way to tell if your
program will work on an older gambas is to try it on an older gambas.


Bring on the optimizations Ben ,, I LOVE IT REALLY !!  ;) lol

Respects
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  4 11:58:41 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 10:58:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Settings problem (crash)
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You have a spacer in your menu and it's name is "Settings"

It is causing a conflict, rename the spacer to something else.

BruceS


On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 14:24, wig <wig at noxqs.org> wrote:

> In a big project, when retrieving settings, I started to have the error
> message:
>
> "Not an array (23)"
>
> in FMain 2288:
>   Settings["Report/TitlesOn"] = mniReportTitles.Checked
>
> I checked the syntax again and again, but had it on all instances of use
> of settings from then on, in FMain.  Not in my FAbout.
>
> The project used several libraries, settings for database access, menu
> state etc, so it took me about a week to trim out all non-relevant
> possibilities.
>
> Now I have the demonstration of the problem in this small project, where I
> just save and retrieve a counter in the settings:
> SettingsProblem-0.0.1.tar.gz.
>
> The program crashes on it except when I use Try in front of the settings
> line.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  4 12:22:26 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 11:22:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Settings problem (crash)
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PS. I was able to tell that right away as when i compiled it I got a
warning message...

FMain, 9, "Class name hidden by global declaration: Settings"
(it made no sense for FMain.class, line 9 where the debugger said it was
because the warning was in fact coming from FMain.form not FMain.class)

but it told me there was something declared as "Settings" somewhere that
probably should not be.

I could not find a definition in the code but then i found it in the Menu
editor. I renamed the spacer from Settings to mnuSpacer and then everything
worked okay.

Well wishes
BruceS


On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 at 10:58, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You have a spacer in your menu and it's name is "Settings"
>
> It is causing a conflict, rename the spacer to something else.
>
> BruceS
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 14:24, wig <wig at noxqs.org> wrote:
>
>> In a big project, when retrieving settings, I started to have the error
>> message:
>>
>> "Not an array (23)"
>>
>> in FMain 2288:
>>   Settings["Report/TitlesOn"] = mniReportTitles.Checked
>>
>> I checked the syntax again and again, but had it on all instances of use
>> of settings from then on, in FMain.  Not in my FAbout.
>>
>> The project used several libraries, settings for database access, menu
>> state etc, so it took me about a week to trim out all non-relevant
>> possibilities.
>>
>> Now I have the demonstration of the problem in this small project, where
>> I just save and retrieve a counter in the settings:
>> SettingsProblem-0.0.1.tar.gz.
>>
>> The program crashes on it except when I use Try in front of the settings
>> line.
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
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From wig at noxqs.org  Tue Oct  4 14:45:40 2022
From: wig at noxqs.org (wig)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2022 14:45:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Settings problem (crash)
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I learned something interesting about the use of the Gambas IDE: 

1) I always did do "run", but then you don't see these warning messages
at all, it just says "compiling ok". 

I'll be handling more the F7 and less the F5 in the future.. 

2) The "find", "Search in all files" does not give me this occurrence of
"Settings" 

This name slipped in via an accidental paste I think 

Normally I give the menu items names like mnuHelp or mniHelpAbout, or
indeed mniSpacer. 

But I didn't know I had to be so carefull with names there.. 

Thank you! 

Bruce Steers schreef op 2022-10-04 12:22: 

> PS. I was able to tell that right away as when i compiled it I got a warning message... 
> 
> FMain, 9, "Class name hidden by global declaration: Settings" 
> (it made no sense for FMain.class, line 9 where the debugger said it was because the warning was in fact coming from FMain.form not FMain.class) 
> 
> but it told me there was something declared as "Settings" somewhere that probably should not be. 
> 
> I could not find a definition in the code but then i found it in the Menu editor. I renamed the spacer from Settings to mnuSpacer and then everything worked okay. 
> 
> Well wishes 
> BruceS 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 at 10:58, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> You have a spacer in your menu and it's name is "Settings" 
> 
> It is causing a conflict, rename the spacer to something else. 
> 
> BruceS 
> 
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 14:24, wig <wig at noxqs.org> wrote: 
> 
> In a big project, when retrieving settings, I started to have the error message: 
> 
> "Not an array (23)" 
> 
> in FMain 2288:
> Settings["Report/TitlesOn"] = mniReportTitles.Checked 
> 
> I checked the syntax again and again, but had it on all instances of use of settings from then on, in FMain. Not in my FAbout. 
> 
> The project used several libraries, settings for database access, menu state etc, so it took me about a week to trim out all non-relevant possibilities. 
> 
> Now I have the demonstration of the problem in this small project, where I just save and retrieve a counter in the settings: SettingsProblem-0.0.1.tar.gz. 
> 
> The program crashes on it except when I use Try in front of the settings line. 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette [1] ]----

 

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  4 15:05:37 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 14:05:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Settings problem (crash)
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 at 13:46, wig <wig at noxqs.org> wrote:

>
>
> I learned something interesting about the use of the Gambas IDE:
>
> 1) I always did do "run", but then you don't see these warning messages at
> all, it just says "compiling ok".
>
> I'll be handling more the F7 and less the F5 in the future..
>
> 2) The "find", "Search in all files" does not give me this occurrence of
> "Settings"
>
> This name slipped in via an accidental paste I think
>
> Normally I give the menu items names like mnuHelp or mniHelpAbout, or
> indeed mniSpacer.
>
> But I didn't know I had to be so carefull with names there..
>
> Thank you!no sense for FMain.class, line 9 where the debugger said it was
> because the warning was in fact coming from FMain.form not FMain.class)
>
You're welcome :)

I often press the "Compile all" button in the IDE just to see any errrors
The errors will also show when selecting the "Make exe" option

Yes it looked like a simple oversight/mistake as your other menu names were
well defined.
the hard to find ones are just the worst.

And yes to the menu names there.
The menu name is also used as the Menu Object pointer reference.

So using "Settings" as the menu name makes the IDE do something like this..

Dim Settings As Menu = New Menu(mParent)
Settings.Name="Settings"
it creates a menu object called Settings then sets the Object.Name as
Settings too.
then using Settings["Sub/Name"] used the menu instead of the Settings.class
hence the "not an array" error.

BruceS
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From matheus at castello.eng.br  Wed Oct  5 04:29:16 2022
From: matheus at castello.eng.br (Matheus Castello)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 23:29:16 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
Message-ID: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>

Hi guys,

I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices and I'm 
doing some external function calls. There is some way in Gambas3 to get, 
or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a external function call?

I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but surely the 
runtime must be making other calls that are overwriting the errno.

Thanks in advance,
Matheus Castello

From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Wed Oct  5 05:25:12 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 06:25:12 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
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You mean an error occurring inside the library? I don't think there is any
other way, than the library itself reporting the error code.
I don't see why using __errno_location inside the library would fail. Are
you calling it from the Gambas code?
If this is about a missing error message, then are you reading it from
stderr?
You need to give more details and/or some code to see.

Jussi




On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 5:54 AM Matheus Castello <matheus at castello.eng.br>
wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices and I'm
> doing some external function calls. There is some way in Gambas3 to get,
> or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a external function call?
>
> I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but surely the
> runtime must be making other calls that are overwriting the errno.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Matheus Castello
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From matheus at castello.eng.br  Wed Oct  5 05:46:13 2022
From: matheus at castello.eng.br (Matheus Castello)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 00:46:13 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
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For example some calls from libgpiod return structs, if the return is a 
null pointer then you have an error. For this cases libgpiod set the 
error code to the `errno` and you need to read it as soon the function 
returns the null pointer.

Reference: 
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/libs/libgpiod/libgpiod.git/tree/include/gpiod.h#n28


On 10/5/2022 12:25 AM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> You mean an error occurring inside the library? I don't think there is 
> any other way, than the library itself reporting the error code.
> I don't see why using __errno_location inside the library would fail. 
> Are you calling it from the Gambas code?

Yeah, I add an `External` declaration to it to try to get the errno, but 
as I said "surely the runtime (I mean the Gambas3 runtime) must be 
making other calls that are overwriting the errno" and I'm always 
getting `errno = 0` that means success.

.NET for example have an annotation to store the errno from an external 
function the `SetLastError`: 
https://github.com/dotnet/iot/blob/main/src/System.Device.Gpio/Interop/Unix/libgpiod/Interop.libgpiod.cs#L49 

I was looking for something similar in Gambas3.

BR,
Matheus Castello


> If this is about a missing error message, then are you reading it from 
> stderr?
> You need to give more details and/or some code to see.
> 
> Jussi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 5:54 AM Matheus Castello <matheus at castello.eng.br 
> <mailto:matheus at castello.eng.br>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi guys,
> 
>     I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices and I'm
>     doing some external function calls. There is some way in Gambas3 to
>     get,
>     or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a external function call?
> 
>     I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but surely the
>     runtime must be making other calls that are overwriting the errno.
> 
>     Thanks in advance,
>     Matheus Castello
> 
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From vuott at tutanota.com  Wed Oct  5 12:50:59 2022
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 12:50:59 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <197c2a9f-3a18-5532-f1a4-aee7ae238182@castello.eng.br>
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Hello,
sorry, I can't see in libgpiod header file, indicated by you, where and how the functions, which return a data of type Structure, set the error code to the `errno`.?Am I missing something?


5 ott 2022, 05:46 da matheus at castello.eng.br:

> For example some calls from libgpiod return structs, if the return is a null pointer then you have an error. For this cases libgpiod set the error code to the `errno` and you need to read it as soon the function returns the null pointer.
>
> Reference: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/libs/libgpiod/libgpiod.git/tree/include/gpiod.h#n28
>
>
> On 10/5/2022 12:25 AM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>
>> You mean an error occurring inside the library? I don't think there is any other way, than the library itself reporting the error code.
>> I don't see why using __errno_location inside the library would fail. Are you calling it from the Gambas code?
>>
>
> Yeah, I add an `External` declaration to it to try to get the errno, but as I said "surely the runtime (I mean the Gambas3 runtime) must be making other calls that are overwriting the errno" and I'm always getting `errno = 0` that means success.
>
> .NET for example have an annotation to store the errno from an external function the `SetLastError`: https://github.com/dotnet/iot/blob/main/src/System.Device.Gpio/Interop/Unix/libgpiod/Interop.libgpiod.cs#L49 
> I was looking for something similar in Gambas3.
>
> BR,
> Matheus Castello
>
>
>> If this is about a missing error message, then are you reading it from stderr?
>> You need to give more details and/or some code to see.
>>
>> Jussi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 5:54 AM Matheus Castello <matheus at castello.eng.br <mailto:matheus at castello.eng.br>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi guys,
>>
>>  I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices and I'm
>>  doing some external function calls. There is some way in Gambas3 to
>>  get,
>>  or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a external function call?
>>
>>  I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but surely the
>>  runtime must be making other calls that are overwriting the errno.
>>
>>  Thanks in advance,
>>  Matheus Castello
>>
>>  ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>>  <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>>
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  5 15:21:03 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 14:21:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
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Is errno global to the application or the entire system?
I would imagine just the application.

I would also imagine the gambas error system works independent of the
libraries one?

How to get the libraries errno I do not know, sorry.

Good luck
BruceS

On Wed, 5 Oct 2022, 05:09 Matheus Castello, <matheus at castello.eng.br> wrote:

> For example some calls from libgpiod return structs, if the return is a
> null pointer then you have an error. For this cases libgpiod set the
> error code to the `errno` and you need to read it as soon the function
> returns the null pointer.
>
> Reference:
>
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/libs/libgpiod/libgpiod.git/tree/include/gpiod.h#n28
>
>
> On 10/5/2022 12:25 AM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> > You mean an error occurring inside the library? I don't think there is
> > any other way, than the library itself reporting the error code.
> > I don't see why using __errno_location inside the library would fail.
> > Are you calling it from the Gambas code?
>
> Yeah, I add an `External` declaration to it to try to get the errno, but
> as I said "surely the runtime (I mean the Gambas3 runtime) must be
> making other calls that are overwriting the errno" and I'm always
> getting `errno = 0` that means success.
>
> .NET for example have an annotation to store the errno from an external
> function the `SetLastError`:
>
> https://github.com/dotnet/iot/blob/main/src/System.Device.Gpio/Interop/Unix/libgpiod/Interop.libgpiod.cs#L49
>
> I was looking for something similar in Gambas3.
>
> BR,
> Matheus Castello
>
>
> > If this is about a missing error message, then are you reading it from
> > stderr?
> > You need to give more details and/or some code to see.
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 5:54 AM Matheus Castello <matheus at castello.eng.br
> > <mailto:matheus at castello.eng.br>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi guys,
> >
> >     I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices and I'm
> >     doing some external function calls. There is some way in Gambas3 to
> >     get,
> >     or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a external function
> call?
> >
> >     I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but surely
> the
> >     runtime must be making other calls that are overwriting the errno.
> >
> >     Thanks in advance,
> >     Matheus Castello
> >
> >     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
> >     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From matheus at castello.eng.br  Wed Oct  5 15:33:59 2022
From: matheus at castello.eng.br (Matheus Castello)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 10:33:59 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
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On 10/5/2022 10:21 AM, Bruce Steers wrote:
> Is errno global to the application or the entire system?
> I would imagine just the application.
>

It's thread-local https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/errno.3.html

> I would also imagine the gambas error system works independent of the 
> libraries one?
> 

Yeah, and I think this would be an important feature to add the Gambas3 
runtime, something similar to SetLastError from .NET, because not all 
libraries use error code as a return and the runtime overwrite errno 
while processing the external call.


> How to get the libraries errno I do not know, sorry.
>

Including errno.h : https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/errno.3.html

BR,
Matheus Castello

> Good luck
> BruceS
> 
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022, 05:09 Matheus Castello, <matheus at castello.eng.br 
> <mailto:matheus at castello.eng.br>> wrote:
> 
>     For example some calls from libgpiod return structs, if the return is a
>     null pointer then you have an error. For this cases libgpiod set the
>     error code to the `errno` and you need to read it as soon the function
>     returns the null pointer.
> 
>     Reference:
>     https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/libs/libgpiod/libgpiod.git/tree/include/gpiod.h#n28 <https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/libs/libgpiod/libgpiod.git/tree/include/gpiod.h#n28>
> 
> 
>     On 10/5/2022 12:25 AM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>      > You mean an error occurring inside the library? I don't think
>     there is
>      > any other way, than the library itself reporting the error code.
>      > I don't see why using __errno_location inside the library would
>     fail.
>      > Are you calling it from the Gambas code?
> 
>     Yeah, I add an `External` declaration to it to try to get the errno,
>     but
>     as I said "surely the runtime (I mean the Gambas3 runtime) must be
>     making other calls that are overwriting the errno" and I'm always
>     getting `errno = 0` that means success.
> 
>     .NET for example have an annotation to store the errno from an external
>     function the `SetLastError`:
>     https://github.com/dotnet/iot/blob/main/src/System.Device.Gpio/Interop/Unix/libgpiod/Interop.libgpiod.cs#L49 <https://github.com/dotnet/iot/blob/main/src/System.Device.Gpio/Interop/Unix/libgpiod/Interop.libgpiod.cs#L49>
> 
>     I was looking for something similar in Gambas3.
> 
>     BR,
>     Matheus Castello
> 
> 
>      > If this is about a missing error message, then are you reading it
>     from
>      > stderr?
>      > You need to give more details and/or some code to see.
>      >
>      > Jussi
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 5:54 AM Matheus Castello
>     <matheus at castello.eng.br <mailto:matheus at castello.eng.br>
>      > <mailto:matheus at castello.eng.br
>     <mailto:matheus at castello.eng.br>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >? ? ?Hi guys,
>      >
>      >? ? ?I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices
>     and I'm
>      >? ? ?doing some external function calls. There is some way in
>     Gambas3 to
>      >? ? ?get,
>      >? ? ?or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a external
>     function call?
>      >
>      >? ? ?I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but
>     surely the
>      >? ? ?runtime must be making other calls that are overwriting the
>     errno.
>      >
>      >? ? ?Thanks in advance,
>      >? ? ?Matheus Castello
>      >
>      >? ? ?----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette>
>      >? ? ?<http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette>> ]----
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
> 
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>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
> 
> 
> 
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From matheus at castello.eng.br  Wed Oct  5 15:24:52 2022
From: matheus at castello.eng.br (Matheus Castello)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 10:24:52 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
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References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
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On 10/5/2022 7:50 AM, vuott--- via User wrote:
> Hello,
> sorry, I can't see in libgpiodheader file, indicated by you, where and 
> how the functions, which return a data of type Structure, set the error 
> code to the `errno`.
> Am I missing something?
> 

The line that I'm referring is the comment about it:

"General note on error handling: all routines exported by libgpiod  set 
errno to one of the error values defined in errno.h upon failure. The 
way of notifying the caller that an error occurred varies between 
functions, but in general a function that returns an int, returns -1 on 
error, while a function returning a pointer bails out on error condition 
by returning a NULL pointer."

One example of implementation 
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/libs/libgpiod/libgpiod.git/tree/lib/core.c#n215

BR,
Matheus Castello

> 
> 5 ott 2022, 05:46 da matheus at castello.eng.br:
> 
>     For example some calls from libgpiod return structs, if the return
>     is a null pointer then you have an error. For this cases libgpiod
>     set the error code to the `errno` and you need to read it as soon
>     the function returns the null pointer.
> 
>     Reference:
>     https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/libs/libgpiod/libgpiod.git/tree/include/gpiod.h#n28
> 
> 
>     On 10/5/2022 12:25 AM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> 
>         You mean an error occurring inside the library? I don't think
>         there is any other way, than the library itself reporting the
>         error code.
>         I don't see why using __errno_location inside the library would
>         fail. Are you calling it from the Gambas code?
> 
> 
>     Yeah, I add an `External` declaration to it to try to get the errno,
>     but as I said "surely the runtime (I mean the Gambas3 runtime) must
>     be making other calls that are overwriting the errno" and I'm always
>     getting `errno = 0` that means success.
> 
>     .NET for example have an annotation to store the errno from an
>     external function the `SetLastError`:
>     https://github.com/dotnet/iot/blob/main/src/System.Device.Gpio/Interop/Unix/libgpiod/Interop.libgpiod.cs#L49
>     I was looking for something similar in Gambas3.
> 
>     BR,
>     Matheus Castello
> 
>         If this is about a missing error message, then are you reading
>         it from stderr?
>         You need to give more details and/or some code to see.
> 
>         Jussi
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 5:54 AM Matheus Castello
>         <matheus at castello.eng.br <mailto:matheus at castello.eng.br>> wrote:
> 
>         Hi guys,
> 
>         I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices
>         and I'm
>         doing some external function calls. There is some way in Gambas3 to
>         get,
>         or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a external
>         function call?
> 
>         I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but
>         surely the
>         runtime must be making other calls that are overwriting the errno.
> 
>         Thanks in advance,
>         Matheus Castello
> 
>         ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>         <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
> 
> 
> 
>         ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> 
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From vuott at tutanota.com  Wed Oct  5 15:54:36 2022
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 15:54:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <0de32780-4199-eced-a8c5-bed2aec9496a@castello.eng.br>
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Usually, many external libraries have functions that, as a formal parameter, have a Pointer to character (* char) from which to read the specification of any error raised.


? while a function returning a pointer bails out on error condition by returning a NULL pointer. ?
uhmmm ... you could check with Gambas:

?????? If returned_structure_variable == 0 Then Error.Raise ("ERROR!")

A NULL Pointer of C language is default value in Gambas --> 0 (zero).
ref.: https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/cat/datatypes





5 ott 2022, 15:24 da matheus at castello.eng.br:

>
>
> On 10/5/2022 7:50 AM, vuott--- via User wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> sorry, I can't see in libgpiodheader file, indicated by you, where and how the functions, which return a data of type Structure, set the error code to the `errno`.
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>
> The line that I'm referring is the comment about it:
>
> "General note on error handling: all routines exported by libgpiod  set errno to one of the error values defined in errno.h upon failure. The way of notifying the caller that an error occurred varies between functions, but in general a function that returns an int, returns -1 on error, while a function returning a pointer bails out on error condition by returning a NULL pointer."
>
> One example of implementation https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/libs/libgpiod/libgpiod.git/tree/lib/core.c#n215
>
> BR,
> Matheus Castello
>
>>
>> 5 ott 2022, 05:46 da matheus at castello.eng.br:
>>
>>  For example some calls from libgpiod return structs, if the return
>>  is a null pointer then you have an error. For this cases libgpiod
>>  set the error code to the `errno` and you need to read it as soon
>>  the function returns the null pointer.
>>
>>  Reference:
>>  https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/libs/libgpiod/libgpiod.git/tree/include/gpiod.h#n28
>>
>>
>>  On 10/5/2022 12:25 AM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>>
>>  You mean an error occurring inside the library? I don't think
>>  there is any other way, than the library itself reporting the
>>  error code.
>>  I don't see why using __errno_location inside the library would
>>  fail. Are you calling it from the Gambas code?
>>
>>
>>  Yeah, I add an `External` declaration to it to try to get the errno,
>>  but as I said "surely the runtime (I mean the Gambas3 runtime) must
>>  be making other calls that are overwriting the errno" and I'm always
>>  getting `errno = 0` that means success.
>>
>>  .NET for example have an annotation to store the errno from an
>>  external function the `SetLastError`:
>>  https://github.com/dotnet/iot/blob/main/src/System.Device.Gpio/Interop/Unix/libgpiod/Interop.libgpiod.cs#L49
>>  I was looking for something similar in Gambas3.
>>
>>  BR,
>>  Matheus Castello
>>
>>  If this is about a missing error message, then are you reading
>>  it from stderr?
>>  You need to give more details and/or some code to see.
>>
>>  Jussi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 5:54 AM Matheus Castello
>>  <matheus at castello.eng.br <mailto:matheus at castello.eng.br>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi guys,
>>
>>  I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices
>>  and I'm
>>  doing some external function calls. There is some way in Gambas3 to
>>  get,
>>  or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a external
>>  function call?
>>
>>  I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but
>>  surely the
>>  runtime must be making other calls that are overwriting the errno.
>>
>>  Thanks in advance,
>>  Matheus Castello
>>
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>>  <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>>
>>
>>
>>  ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>>
>>  ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  5 18:02:47 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 17:02:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] [CRASH REPORT] Gambas 3
Message-ID: <ad2a2eb7-e207-6f5a-c5c2-76314624b955@gmail.com>

Hello,

Damned, Gambas crashed Gambas that way :

What I did...
Loaded Gambas3 into the IDE
Searched for "prefix" in the search bar

got this error.


PS, noticed this post gets sent to the M/L and also Benoit to your old 
email address.

Respects
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Wed Oct  5 20:36:45 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 20:36:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
Message-ID: <d4c94ccd-946e-2d18-3351-681a1273350d@gambas-basic.org>

Le 05/10/2022 ? 04:29, Matheus Castello a ?crit?:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices and I'm 
> doing some external function calls. There is some way in Gambas3 to get, 
> or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a external function call?
> 
> I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but surely the 
> runtime must be making other calls that are overwriting the errno.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Matheus Castello
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

The 'System.Error' property returns the value of errno.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Wed Oct  5 22:42:48 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 23:42:48 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <d4c94ccd-946e-2d18-3351-681a1273350d@gambas-basic.org>
References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
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>
> The 'System.Error' property returns the value of errno.
>

I learned something new. The documentation should use the term "errno" as a
synonym. Easier to find that way.

Jussi
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From vuott at tutanota.com  Thu Oct  6 01:30:28 2022
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 01:30:28 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <d4c94ccd-946e-2d18-3351-681a1273350d@gambas-basic.org>
References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
 <d4c94ccd-946e-2d18-3351-681a1273350d@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <NDeU6bD--3-2@tutanota.com>

Out of curiosity, maybe you could also try "System.GetExternSymbol ()":

?? Dim p As Pointer

?? p = System.GetExternSymbol("libgpiod", "errno")

?? Print Int@(p)




5 ott 2022, 20:36 da benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org:

> Le 05/10/2022 ? 04:29, Matheus Castello a ?crit?:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices and I'm doing some external function calls. There is some way in Gambas3 to get, or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a external function call?
>>
>> I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but surely the runtime must be making other calls that are overwriting the errno.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Matheus Castello
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
> The 'System.Error' property returns the value of errno.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Thu Oct  6 10:43:07 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 10:43:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <NDeU6bD--3-2@tutanota.com>
References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
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Le 06/10/2022 ? 01:30, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
> Out of curiosity, maybe you could also try "System.GetExternSymbol ()":
> 
>  ?? Dim p As Pointer
> 
>  ?? p = System.GetExternSymbol("libgpiod", "errno")
> 
>  ?? Print Int@(p)
> 

Don't do that, as 'errno' is not a global variable anymore according to 
the glibc manual ('man errno' says it's a C macro).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From vuott at tutanota.com  Thu Oct  6 16:35:51 2022
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 16:35:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <8fe4cbfa-1e05-9b91-5a2a-1a6e27bcc08f@gambas-basic.org>
References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
 <d4c94ccd-946e-2d18-3351-681a1273350d@gambas-basic.org>
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Message-ID: <NDhiL-N--7-2@tutanota.com>

I did a test...
Looking at the sources of the libgpiod functions, I see that in many of them a value is assigned to the "errno" symbol.
For example in the "int gpiod_line_bulk_add_line ()" function:
??? errno = EINVAL;

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/libs/libgpiod/libgpiod.git/tree/lib/core.c#n147


Not having installed the "libgpiod" library on my system, I tried to create "ex novo" a similar function, and to test it with Gambas:

' void simula_errore()
Private Extern simula_errore() In "/tmp/liberror"


Public Sub Main()

? Dim p As Pointer

' Go to create the external shared library, that will simulate the "EINVAL" error:
? Creaso()

' Calls then? External function:
? simula_errore()

' Catch the error:
? p = System.GetExternSymbol("/tmp/liberror", "errno")
?
? Print Int@(p)

End


Private Procedure Creaso()

File.Save("/tmp/liberror.c", "#include <errno.h>\n\n" &
?????????????????????????????? "void simula_errore() {\n" &
?????????????????????????????? "?? errno = EINVAL;\n}")

Shell "gcc -o /tmp/liberror.so /tmp/liberror.c -shared" Wait

End
------

Maybe I'm thinking wrong, in any case it works for me.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
6 ott 2022, 10:43 da benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org:

> Le 06/10/2022 ? 01:30, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
>
>> Out of curiosity, maybe you could also try "System.GetExternSymbol ()":
>>
>>  ?? Dim p As Pointer
>>
>>  ?? p = System.GetExternSymbol("libgpiod", "errno")
>>
>>  ?? Print Int@(p)
>>
>
> Don't do that, as 'errno' is not a global variable anymore according to the glibc manual ('man errno' says it's a C macro).
>
> Regards,
>
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From matheus at castello.eng.br  Thu Oct  6 17:19:30 2022
From: matheus at castello.eng.br (Matheus Castello)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 12:19:30 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <NDeU6bD--3-2@tutanota.com>
References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
 <d4c94ccd-946e-2d18-3351-681a1273350d@gambas-basic.org>
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Message-ID: <60f88ae8-ce94-5b2e-41f0-5609e563210c@castello.eng.br>



On 10/5/2022 8:30 PM, vuott--- via User wrote:
> Out of curiosity, maybe you could also try "System.GetExternSymbol ()":
> 
>  ?? Dim p As Pointer
> 
>  ?? p = System.GetExternSymbol("libgpiod", "errno")
> 
>  ?? Print Int@(p)
> 
> 

What I was doing previously was getting the pointer reference calling 
`__errno_location`: 
https://gist.github.com/microhobby/245022469ffbcea1a07a7579839d90a2#file-main-module-L13

That works too. What is actually overwriting the errno is the IDE's 
Debug session ...
If you try to run in the IDE debugger this will not work, this will 
return 0 always. (Could you check if its reproducible in your side please?)

BR,
Matheus Castello

> 
> 
> 5 ott 2022, 20:36 da benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org:
> 
>     Le 05/10/2022 ? 04:29, Matheus Castello a ?crit?:
> 
>         Hi guys,
> 
>         I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices
>         and I'm doing some external function calls. There is some way in
>         Gambas3 to get, or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a
>         external function call?
> 
>         I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but
>         surely the runtime must be making other calls that are
>         overwriting the errno.
> 
>         Thanks in advance,
>         Matheus Castello
> 
>         ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> 
>     The 'System.Error' property returns the value of errno.
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     -- 
>     Beno?t Minisini.
> 
> 
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Thu Oct  6 17:23:44 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 17:23:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <60f88ae8-ce94-5b2e-41f0-5609e563210c@castello.eng.br>
References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
 <d4c94ccd-946e-2d18-3351-681a1273350d@gambas-basic.org>
 <NDeU6bD--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <60f88ae8-ce94-5b2e-41f0-5609e563210c@castello.eng.br>
Message-ID: <9a1b716c-366f-ab3c-9964-35c670cd0695@gambas-basic.org>

Le 06/10/2022 ? 17:19, Matheus Castello a ?crit?:
> 
> 
> On 10/5/2022 8:30 PM, vuott--- via User wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, maybe you could also try "System.GetExternSymbol ()":
>>
>> ??? Dim p As Pointer
>>
>> ??? p = System.GetExternSymbol("libgpiod", "errno")
>>
>> ??? Print Int@(p)
>>
>>
> 
> What I was doing previously was getting the pointer reference calling 
> `__errno_location`: 
> https://gist.github.com/microhobby/245022469ffbcea1a07a7579839d90a2#file-main-module-L13
> 
> That works too. What is actually overwriting the errno is the IDE's 
> Debug session ...
> If you try to run in the IDE debugger this will not work, this will 
> return 0 always. (Could you check if its reproducible in your side please?)
> 

I can modify the debugger so that is saves and restore 'errno'.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From matheus at castello.eng.br  Thu Oct  6 17:10:26 2022
From: matheus at castello.eng.br (Matheus Castello)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 12:10:26 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <d4c94ccd-946e-2d18-3351-681a1273350d@gambas-basic.org>
References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
 <d4c94ccd-946e-2d18-3351-681a1273350d@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <1f9c2cb5-598e-cd23-eb07-3f11e79bf827@castello.eng.br>



On 10/5/2022 3:36 PM, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Le 05/10/2022 ? 04:29, Matheus Castello a ?crit?:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I'm new to Gambas3, I'm trying to use it for embedded devices and I'm 
>> doing some external function calls. There is some way in Gambas3 to 
>> get, or Gambas runtime stores, the last errno from a external function 
>> call?
>>
>> I tried to get it directly from libc `__errno_location` but surely the 
>> runtime must be making other calls that are overwriting the errno.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Matheus Castello
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> The 'System.Error' property returns the value of errno.
> 

Thanks to point it, it works.

But I think that I found a bug. While debugging, this does not works. I 
wasted sometime yesterday testing and it wasn't working, but then I saw 
that running the program outside of the Gambas IDE without debug it 
worked as expected.

Gist for my tests reference: 
https://gist.github.com/microhobby/2e0221e8c6e677d505d183c59064508a

BR,
Matheus Castello

> Regards,
> 

From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Thu Oct  6 17:46:00 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 17:46:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <9a1b716c-366f-ab3c-9964-35c670cd0695@gambas-basic.org>
References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
 <d4c94ccd-946e-2d18-3351-681a1273350d@gambas-basic.org>
 <NDeU6bD--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <60f88ae8-ce94-5b2e-41f0-5609e563210c@castello.eng.br>
 <9a1b716c-366f-ab3c-9964-35c670cd0695@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <fff08dc6-a52a-7353-1c75-337dab7b5d7c@gambas-basic.org>

Le 06/10/2022 ? 17:23, Benoit Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 06/10/2022 ? 17:19, Matheus Castello a ?crit?:
>>
>>
>> On 10/5/2022 8:30 PM, vuott--- via User wrote:
>>> Out of curiosity, maybe you could also try "System.GetExternSymbol ()":
>>>
>>> ??? Dim p As Pointer
>>>
>>> ??? p = System.GetExternSymbol("libgpiod", "errno")
>>>
>>> ??? Print Int@(p)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What I was doing previously was getting the pointer reference calling 
>> `__errno_location`: 
>> https://gist.github.com/microhobby/245022469ffbcea1a07a7579839d90a2#file-main-module-L13
>>
>> That works too. What is actually overwriting the errno is the IDE's 
>> Debug session ...
>> If you try to run in the IDE debugger this will not work, this will 
>> return 0 always. (Could you check if its reproducible in your side 
>> please?)
>>
> 
> I can modify the debugger so that is saves and restore 'errno'.
> 

Done in master.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Thu Oct  6 20:03:42 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 21:03:42 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
In-Reply-To: <NDhiL-N--7-2@tutanota.com>
References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
 <d4c94ccd-946e-2d18-3351-681a1273350d@gambas-basic.org>
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>
> Maybe I'm thinking wrong, in any case it works for me.
>

The point is that even when there are cases where it works, it is not
guaranteed to work like that. Thus it is not good practice.


Jussi
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From matheus at castello.eng.br  Fri Oct  7 02:37:44 2022
From: matheus at castello.eng.br (Matheus Castello)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 21:37:44 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Get last errno from external function call
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References: <e3467625-d41a-23b4-a7eb-dcd13228c35d@castello.eng.br>
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On 10/6/2022 12:46 PM, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Le 06/10/2022 ? 17:23, Benoit Minisini a ?crit?:
>> Le 06/10/2022 ? 17:19, Matheus Castello a ?crit?:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/5/2022 8:30 PM, vuott--- via User wrote:
>>>> Out of curiosity, maybe you could also try "System.GetExternSymbol ()":
>>>>
>>>> ??? Dim p As Pointer
>>>>
>>>> ??? p = System.GetExternSymbol("libgpiod", "errno")
>>>>
>>>> ??? Print Int@(p)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What I was doing previously was getting the pointer reference calling 
>>> `__errno_location`: 
>>> https://gist.github.com/microhobby/245022469ffbcea1a07a7579839d90a2#file-main-module-L13
>>>
>>> That works too. What is actually overwriting the errno is the IDE's 
>>> Debug session ...
>>> If you try to run in the IDE debugger this will not work, this will 
>>> return 0 always. (Could you check if its reproducible in your side 
>>> please?)
>>>
>>
>> I can modify the debugger so that is saves and restore 'errno'.
>>
> 
> Done in master.
> 

Awesome! I get it from master, compiled and tested. Thanks for the quick 
fix.

BR,
Matheus Castello

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 11:13:41 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 10:13:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDFOK7mRvCOmzru7b5Smj6RtgiuA1LVxmd_cunqwxr+zA@mail.gmail.com>

Could there be a default language setting somewhere?
Or auto-detection of the system language when creating a new project?

Mine always sets to en_US not en_GB
I assume everyone's sets to en_US by default.
Would be nice to be able to set a default or it be detected.

Respects
BruceS
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Fri Oct  7 11:28:18 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 11:28:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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Le 07/10/2022 ? 11:13, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> Could there be a default language setting somewhere?
> Or auto-detection of the system language when creating a new project?
> 
> Mine always sets to en_US not en_GB
> I assume everyone's sets to en_US by default.
> Would be nice to be able to set a default or it be detected.
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

Are you talking about the "default language" popup of the project option 
dialog?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 11:39:42 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 20:09:42 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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On Fri, 2022-10-07 at 10:13 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> Could there be a default language setting somewhere?
> Or auto-detection of the system language when creating a new project?
> 
> Mine always sets to en_US not en_GB
> I assume everyone's sets to en_US by default.
> Would be nice to be able to set a default or it be detected.
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
Benoits answer may be more relevant but about some moons ago when I
changed to this G*dAwf&l GTK "based" distro I had to resort to setting
all the LC variables known on this planet (and others) to make it aware
that I was in AU and NOT USA! 
bon chance
b


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 13:01:57 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 12:01:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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On Fri, 7 Oct 2022, 10:29 Benoit Minisini, <benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org>
wrote:

> Le 07/10/2022 ? 11:13, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > Could there be a default language setting somewhere?
> > Or auto-detection of the system language when creating a new project?
> >
> > Mine always sets to en_US not en_GB
> > I assume everyone's sets to en_US by default.
> > Would be nice to be able to set a default or it be detected.
> >
> > Respects
> > BruceS
> >
>
> Are you talking about the "default language" popup of the project option
> dialog?
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>


Yes the combobox where you set default language. Project properties/ options

I checked my $LANG and it's en_GB UTF-8
Does it use something else or is en_US just the default?

Respects
BruceS

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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Fri Oct  7 13:54:43 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 13:54:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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Le 07/10/2022 ? 13:01, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> Yes the combobox where you set default language. Project properties/ options
> 
> I checked my $LANG and it's en_GB UTF-8
> Does it use something else or is en_US just the default?
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

OK, I see: the project templates specified 'en_US' for the project 
language instead of specifying nothing.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Fri Oct  7 15:37:49 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:37:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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El 7/10/22 a las 11:39, bb escribi?:
>   this planet (and others) to make it aware
> that I was in AU and NOT USA!
Gambas does not detect the coriolis force of the southern hemisphere.;-)

Mart?n

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 16:03:13 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2022 00:33:13 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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On Fri, 2022-10-07 at 15:37 +0200, Martin wrote:
> El 7/10/22 a las 11:39, bb escribi?:
> > ? this planet (and others) to make it aware
> > that I was in AU and NOT USA!
> Gambas does not detect the coriolis force of the southern
> hemisphere.;-)
> 
> Mart?n
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
Well, it's about time it did then. The Coriolus (sic) force down here
is significantly more significant than it's insignificant force in some
other hemispheres that I could mention.
cheers (insignificantly)
b


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 16:04:54 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2022 00:34:54 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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On Sat, 2022-10-08 at 00:33 +1030, bb wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-10-07 at 15:37 +0200, Martin wrote:
> > El 7/10/22 a las 11:39, bb escribi?:
> > > ? this planet (and others) to make it aware
> > > that I was in AU and NOT USA!
> > Gambas does not detect the coriolis force of the southern
> > hemisphere.;-)
> > 
> > Mart?n
> > 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
> Well, it's about time it did then. The Coriolus (sic) force down here
> is significantly more significant than it's insignificant force in
> some
> other hemispheres that I could mention.
> cheers (insignificantly)
> b
(and if you want to know why, it's because there is only one
significant land mass down here!)


From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Fri Oct  7 17:39:17 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 17:39:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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El 7/10/22 a las 11:39, bb escribi?:
> I had to resort to setting
> all the LC variables known on this planet (and others) to make it aware
> that I was in AU and NOT USA!

what is G*dAwf&l?

Are you talking about having to change the Linux desktop configuration? 
If so, which one exactly?
You know you can use the locale command right?

in the gambas code, searching with grep where the word en_US exists I 
found that the file gbx_local.c has a function that searches in the 
local configuration for the system language but as it does not find it, 
it puts en_US.

In my case that I use a GTK desktop (Manjaro XFCE) the locale command 
does not return parameter in the ALL= key (which is what gbx_local.c 
looks for).
Maybe changing a little bit this C function can correct the issue.

const char *LOCAL_get_lang(void)
{
	char *lang;

	if (!_lang)
	{
		lang = getenv("LC_ALL"); */Here maybe use lang = getenv("LANG")/*
		if (!lang)
			lang = getenv("LANG");
		if (!lang || !*lang)
			lang = "en_US";
		_lang = STRING_new_zero(lang);
	}

	return _lang;
}

This is my system locale configuration
LANG=es_ES.utf8
LC_CTYPE="es_ES.utf8"
LC_NUMERIC=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_TIME=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="es_ES.utf8"
LC_MONETARY=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="es_ES.utf8"
LC_PAPER=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_NAME=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_ALL=


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 20:00:04 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 19:00:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 16:40, Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net> wrote:

> El 7/10/22 a las 11:39, bb escribi?:
> > I had to resort to setting
> > all the LC variables known on this planet (and others) to make it aware
> > that I was in AU and NOT USA!
>
> what is G*dAwf&l?
>

It's Australian for "god awful"  ;)



> Are you talking about having to change the Linux desktop configuration?
> If so, which one exactly?
> You know you can use the locale command right?
>

I think he ditched gtk completely and went for a QT only system.


> in the gambas code, searching with grep where the word en_US exists I
> found that the file gbx_local.c has a function that searches in the
> local configuration for the system language but as it does not find it,
> it puts en_US.
>

That won't be the issue as gambas finds my system language just fine.

I think Benoit said the project template set's it but it should leave it
unset.
possibly /gambas/app/src/gambas3/debugger/_project ?

I'm sure he know's what to do and i bet it's an outrageously simple fix ;)
lol

respects
BruceS
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 19:48:37 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 20:48:37 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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Your suggestion doesn't change anything (except it skips checking LC_ALL).
The current code checks first LC_ALL and if it is empty it already checks
LANG after that.
en_US is used only if both are empty.


Jussi


On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 6:40 PM Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net> wrote:

> El 7/10/22 a las 11:39, bb escribi?:
> > I had to resort to setting
> > all the LC variables known on this planet (and others) to make it aware
> > that I was in AU and NOT USA!
>
> what is G*dAwf&l?
>
> Are you talking about having to change the Linux desktop configuration?
> If so, which one exactly?
> You know you can use the locale command right?
>
> in the gambas code, searching with grep where the word en_US exists I
> found that the file gbx_local.c has a function that searches in the
> local configuration for the system language but as it does not find it,
> it puts en_US.
>
> In my case that I use a GTK desktop (Manjaro XFCE) the locale command
> does not return parameter in the ALL= key (which is what gbx_local.c
> looks for).
> Maybe changing a little bit this C function can correct the issue.
>
> const char *LOCAL_get_lang(void)
> {
>         char *lang;
>
>         if (!_lang)
>         {
>                 lang = getenv("LC_ALL"); */Here maybe use lang =
> getenv("LANG")/*
>                 if (!lang)
>                         lang = getenv("LANG");
>                 if (!lang || !*lang)
>                         lang = "en_US";
>                 _lang = STRING_new_zero(lang);
>         }
>
>         return _lang;
> }
>
> This is my system locale configuration
> LANG=es_ES.utf8
> LC_CTYPE="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_NUMERIC=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_TIME=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_COLLATE="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_MONETARY=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_MESSAGES="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_PAPER=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_NAME=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_ADDRESS=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_TELEPHONE=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_MEASUREMENT=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_IDENTIFICATION=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_ALL=
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 22:19:26 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 21:19:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 19:00, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>>
>> I'm sure he know's what to do and i bet it's an outrageously simple fix
>> ;) lol
>>
>
> How about a "Set as default" button Benoit?
> next to the combobox so if you find yourself setting it there you can set
> it as the future default option.
> Seems logical as the combobox has already built a list of the languages.
>

Oops sorry i missed the last commit,
Many thanks kind sir :)
Well wishes
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 22:14:37 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 21:14:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
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On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 19:00, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 16:40, Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net> wrote:
>
>> El 7/10/22 a las 11:39, bb escribi?:
>> > I had to resort to setting
>> > all the LC variables known on this planet (and others) to make it aware
>> > that I was in AU and NOT USA!
>>
>> what is G*dAwf&l?
>>
>
> It's Australian for "god awful"  ;)
>
>
>
>> Are you talking about having to change the Linux desktop configuration?
>> If so, which one exactly?
>> You know you can use the locale command right?
>>
>
> I think he ditched gtk completely and went for a QT only system.
>
>
>> in the gambas code, searching with grep where the word en_US exists I
>> found that the file gbx_local.c has a function that searches in the
>> local configuration for the system language but as it does not find it,
>> it puts en_US.
>>
>
> That won't be the issue as gambas finds my system language just fine.
>
> I think Benoit said the project template set's it but it should leave it
> unset.
> possibly /gambas/app/src/gambas3/debugger/_project ?
>
> I'm sure he know's what to do and i bet it's an outrageously simple fix ;)
> lol
>

How about a "Set as default" button Benoit?
next to the combobox so if you find yourself setting it there you can set
it as the future default option.
Seems logical as the combobox has already built a list of the languages.

Respects
BruceS
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From vuott at tutanota.com  Sat Oct  8 16:50:21 2022
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 16:50:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bool@(),
 Byte@()... functions can be the target of an affectation now.
Message-ID: <NDs3pzG--3-2@tutanota.com>

Hello Benoit,
excuse my ignorance, but what does it mean those functions ? be the target of an affectation ? ?

Regards
vuott
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sat Oct  8 17:38:39 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 17:38:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bool@(),
 Byte@()... functions can be the target of an affectation now.
In-Reply-To: <NDs3pzG--3-2@tutanota.com>
References: <NDs3pzG--3-2@tutanota.com>
Message-ID: <f78fc950-6d5f-409d-fe65-e2f79f2f6f0b@gambas-basic.org>

Le 08/10/2022 ? 16:50, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
> Hello Benoit,
> excuse my ignorance, but what does it mean those functions ? be the 
> target of an affectation ? ?
> 
> Regards
> vuott
> 

Now you can write:

Integer@(Pointer) = Value

It's the POKE instruction for those old enough to remember the BASIC of 
Amstrad / Commodore / ... of the good old days.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sat Oct  8 17:39:34 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 17:39:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bool@(),
 Byte@()... functions can be the target of an affectation now.
In-Reply-To: <f78fc950-6d5f-409d-fe65-e2f79f2f6f0b@gambas-basic.org>
References: <NDs3pzG--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <f78fc950-6d5f-409d-fe65-e2f79f2f6f0b@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <0333a8c9-b741-6739-50e7-a026df3a166d@gambas-basic.org>

Le 08/10/2022 ? 17:38, Benoit Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 08/10/2022 ? 16:50, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
>> Hello Benoit,
>> excuse my ignorance, but what does it mean those functions ? be the 
>> target of an affectation ? ?
>>
>> Regards
>> vuott
>>
> 
> Now you can write:
> 
> Integer@(Pointer) = Value
> 
> It's the POKE instruction for those old enough to remember the BASIC of 
> Amstrad / Commodore / ... of the good old days.
> 
> Regards,
> 

And, more important, the JIT compiler optimizes these instructions by 
doing a direct memory access in unsafe mode.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sat Oct  8 19:33:02 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 19:33:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with interpreter optimization and CPU
 behaviour
Message-ID: <4c5dc806-e9c6-348d-791d-75fae1481ca9@gambas-basic.org>

Hi,

Just an informative mail about the current interpreter optimizations, 
and the problem I encounter.

I have just added a new bytecode for implementing the different memory 
write instructions : 'Byte@(ptr) = value', 'Int@(ptr) = value', and so on.

The interpreter loop is a big switch based on a big jump table (one by 
bytecode, they are 256).

Adding the new bytecode is just adding a new "goto" target destination, 
a call to the function that implements the new instructions, and another 
'goto' instruction to move to the next bytecode.

Something like that:

_SUBR_POKE:

	SUBR_poke(code); // 'code' is the bytecode being interpreted
	goto _NEXT;

If I test the 'mandelbrot.gbs' benchmark, its execution time becomes 
150% slower when I just add these three lines of C code!

I have no idea why. At the moment, I think that the size of the 
interpreter loop pass some sort of cache limit somewhere that trashes 
the CPU performances. But all that seems random to me, and makes 
optimizing vey difficult!

If someone has any idea, he's welcome!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.

From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Sat Oct  8 19:41:46 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 19:41:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
In-Reply-To: <b5da8b6f-5742-1637-6651-f84fe866a3eb@belmotek.net>
References: <CABuQYCDFOK7mRvCOmzru7b5Smj6RtgiuA1LVxmd_cunqwxr+zA@mail.gmail.com>
 <72c39491dd94429e8d97b2a4be845ff58a26f2ea.camel@gmail.com>
 <b5da8b6f-5742-1637-6651-f84fe866a3eb@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <387e41fc-0954-4bfc-3dfb-76ccf732127a@belmotek.net>

El 7/10/22 a las 17:39, Martin escribi?:
> const char *LOCAL_get_lang(void)
> {
>  ????char *lang;
> 
>  ????if (!_lang)
>  ????{
>  ??????? lang = getenv("LC_ALL"); 
>  ??????? if (!lang)
>  ??????????? lang = getenv("LANG");
>  ??????? if (!lang || !*lang)
>  ??????????? lang = "en_US";
>  ??????? _lang = STRING_new_zero(lang);
>  ????}
> 
>  ????return _lang;
> }

I think this code may not work correctly, for example in my system:
LANG=es_ES.utf8
LC_NAME=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
But the code returns en_US.utf8. Is this correct?
Either the function does not return the value correctly or this function 
is not used to provide the default language.
Regards.
Martin

From vuott at tutanota.com  Sat Oct  8 19:55:14 2022
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 19:55:14 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bool@(),
 Byte@()... functions can be the target of an affectation now.
In-Reply-To: <0333a8c9-b741-6739-50e7-a026df3a166d@gambas-basic.org>
References: <NDs3pzG--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <f78fc950-6d5f-409d-fe65-e2f79f2f6f0b@gambas-basic.org>
 <0333a8c9-b741-6739-50e7-a026df3a166d@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <NDsj9Dw--3-2@tutanota.com>

Ah, ok.
thanks.




8 ott 2022, 17:39 da benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org:

> Le 08/10/2022 ? 17:38, Benoit Minisini a ?crit?:
>
>> Le 08/10/2022 ? 16:50, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
>>
>>> Hello Benoit,
>>> excuse my ignorance, but what does it mean those functions ? be the target of an affectation ? ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> vuott
>>>
>>
>> Now you can write:
>>
>> Integer@(Pointer) = Value
>>
>> It's the POKE instruction for those old enough to remember the BASIC of Amstrad / Commodore / ... of the good old days.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>
> And, more important, the JIT compiler optimizes these instructions by doing a direct memory access in unsafe mode.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sat Oct  8 20:03:00 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 20:03:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
In-Reply-To: <b5da8b6f-5742-1637-6651-f84fe866a3eb@belmotek.net>
References: <CABuQYCDFOK7mRvCOmzru7b5Smj6RtgiuA1LVxmd_cunqwxr+zA@mail.gmail.com>
 <72c39491dd94429e8d97b2a4be845ff58a26f2ea.camel@gmail.com>
 <b5da8b6f-5742-1637-6651-f84fe866a3eb@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <62a67eea-c06b-6de9-0ef0-42cd48aaa1ce@gambas-basic.org>

Le 07/10/2022 ? 17:39, Martin a ?crit?:
> El 7/10/22 a las 11:39, bb escribi?:
>> I had to resort to setting
>> all the LC variables known on this planet (and others) to make it aware
>> that I was in AU and NOT USA!
> 
> what is G*dAwf&l?
> 
> Are you talking about having to change the Linux desktop configuration? 
> If so, which one exactly?
> You know you can use the locale command right?
> 
> in the gambas code, searching with grep where the word en_US exists I 
> found that the file gbx_local.c has a function that searches in the 
> local configuration for the system language but as it does not find it, 
> it puts en_US.
> 
> In my case that I use a GTK desktop (Manjaro XFCE) the locale command 
> does not return parameter in the ALL= key (which is what gbx_local.c 
> looks for).
> Maybe changing a little bit this C function can correct the issue.
> 
> const char *LOCAL_get_lang(void)
> {
>  ????char *lang;
> 
>  ????if (!_lang)
>  ????{
>  ??????? lang = getenv("LC_ALL"); */Here maybe use lang = getenv("LANG")/*
>  ??????? if (!lang)
>  ??????????? lang = getenv("LANG");
>  ??????? if (!lang || !*lang)
>  ??????????? lang = "en_US";
>  ??????? _lang = STRING_new_zero(lang);
>  ????}
> 
>  ????return _lang;
> }
> 

Which version of Gambas do you use? This code is more than two years 
old, now it is:

const char *LOCAL_get_lang(void)
{
	char *lang;

	if (!_lang)
	{
		lang = getenv("LC_ALL");
		if (!lang || !*lang)
			lang = getenv("LANG");
		if (!lang || !*lang)
			lang = "C";
		_lang = STRING_new_zero(lang);
	}

	return _lang;
}

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sat Oct  8 20:05:39 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 20:05:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
In-Reply-To: <387e41fc-0954-4bfc-3dfb-76ccf732127a@belmotek.net>
References: <CABuQYCDFOK7mRvCOmzru7b5Smj6RtgiuA1LVxmd_cunqwxr+zA@mail.gmail.com>
 <72c39491dd94429e8d97b2a4be845ff58a26f2ea.camel@gmail.com>
 <b5da8b6f-5742-1637-6651-f84fe866a3eb@belmotek.net>
 <387e41fc-0954-4bfc-3dfb-76ccf732127a@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <421ca657-14d2-7424-50f9-ad02cd30b248@gambas-basic.org>

Le 08/10/2022 ? 19:41, Martin a ?crit?:
> I think this code may not work correctly, for example in my system:
> LANG=es_ES.utf8
> LC_NAME=es_ES.UTF-8
> LC_ALL=

What is this strange configuration? I don't get it.

Gambas does not make the distinction between the different locale 
categories. This is why it reads 'LANG' if 'LC_ALL' is void, and ignores 
all specific locale categories.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Sat Oct  8 20:15:26 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 21:15:26 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with interpreter optimization and CPU
 behaviour
In-Reply-To: <4c5dc806-e9c6-348d-791d-75fae1481ca9@gambas-basic.org>
References: <4c5dc806-e9c6-348d-791d-75fae1481ca9@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7RgD3j=+yDV8hxQGebC0tbhuuHsUEyFc9s4ohxi5M9u6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Could be some limit in the speculative execution. Any correlations to the
L1 - L4 cache sizes of your CPU?

Jussi

On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 8:34 PM Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just an informative mail about the current interpreter optimizations,
> and the problem I encounter.
>
> I have just added a new bytecode for implementing the different memory
> write instructions : 'Byte@(ptr) = value', 'Int@(ptr) = value', and so on.
>
> The interpreter loop is a big switch based on a big jump table (one by
> bytecode, they are 256).
>
> Adding the new bytecode is just adding a new "goto" target destination,
> a call to the function that implements the new instructions, and another
> 'goto' instruction to move to the next bytecode.
>
> Something like that:
>
> _SUBR_POKE:
>
>         SUBR_poke(code); // 'code' is the bytecode being interpreted
>         goto _NEXT;
>
> If I test the 'mandelbrot.gbs' benchmark, its execution time becomes
> 150% slower when I just add these three lines of C code!
>
> I have no idea why. At the moment, I think that the size of the
> interpreter loop pass some sort of cache limit somewhere that trashes
> the CPU performances. But all that seems random to me, and makes
> optimizing vey difficult!
>
> If someone has any idea, he's welcome!
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sat Oct  8 20:44:51 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 20:44:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with interpreter optimization and CPU
 behaviour
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7RgD3j=+yDV8hxQGebC0tbhuuHsUEyFc9s4ohxi5M9u6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4c5dc806-e9c6-348d-791d-75fae1481ca9@gambas-basic.org>
 <CAFJMe7RgD3j=+yDV8hxQGebC0tbhuuHsUEyFc9s4ohxi5M9u6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a2c238f6-701c-05eb-4993-a0865c4cb0e5@gambas-basic.org>

Le 08/10/2022 ? 20:15, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit?:
> Could be some limit in the speculative execution. Any correlations to 
> the L1 - L4 cache sizes of your CPU?
> 
> Jussi
> 

My Ryzen 5700G L1 cache size is 64Kb by core, according to this link: 
https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-7-5700g.c2472

The object file of the interpreter loop (gbx_exec_loop.c) has less than 
32Kb of machine code inside according to 'objdump'.

I suspected the gcc compiler to do something weird with the '-O3' 
optimization, i.e. taking some optimization decisions that have huge 
effects as soon as you add three lines of code...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sat Oct  8 20:54:41 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 20:54:41 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with interpreter optimization and CPU
 behaviour
In-Reply-To: <a2c238f6-701c-05eb-4993-a0865c4cb0e5@gambas-basic.org>
References: <4c5dc806-e9c6-348d-791d-75fae1481ca9@gambas-basic.org>
 <CAFJMe7RgD3j=+yDV8hxQGebC0tbhuuHsUEyFc9s4ohxi5M9u6Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <a2c238f6-701c-05eb-4993-a0865c4cb0e5@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <2f3a54b3-89f5-c977-217e-d2028e5ba974@gambas-basic.org>

Le 08/10/2022 ? 20:44, Benoit Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 08/10/2022 ? 20:15, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit?:
>> Could be some limit in the speculative execution. Any correlations to 
>> the L1 - L4 cache sizes of your CPU?
>>
>> Jussi
>>
> 
> My Ryzen 5700G L1 cache size is 64Kb by core, according to this link: 
> https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-7-5700g.c2472
> 
> The object file of the interpreter loop (gbx_exec_loop.c) has less than 
> 32Kb of machine code inside according to 'objdump'.
> 
> I suspected the gcc compiler to do something weird with the '-O3' 
> optimization, i.e. taking some optimization decisions that have huge 
> effects as soon as you add three lines of code...
> 

I'm almost sure it's the gcc compiler...

If I add my new bytecode implentation, execution time is 3,5 s.

If then I add a line to print a debugging message on the error output 
inside the interpreter loop, where that new bytecode is interpreted, the 
execution time goes down to 2,2 s, whereas this bytecode is never used 
in the executed benchmark, and so the code is never executed!

It's bad sorcery!!!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sat Oct  8 22:10:32 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 22:10:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with interpreter optimization and CPU
 behaviour
In-Reply-To: <a2c238f6-701c-05eb-4993-a0865c4cb0e5@gambas-basic.org>
References: <4c5dc806-e9c6-348d-791d-75fae1481ca9@gambas-basic.org>
 <CAFJMe7RgD3j=+yDV8hxQGebC0tbhuuHsUEyFc9s4ohxi5M9u6Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <a2c238f6-701c-05eb-4993-a0865c4cb0e5@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <c8e7cab7-b724-8d62-3d6f-6cc4c68a2d37@gambas-basic.org>

Le 08/10/2022 ? 20:44, Benoit Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 08/10/2022 ? 20:15, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit?:
>> Could be some limit in the speculative execution. Any correlations to 
>> the L1 - L4 cache sizes of your CPU?
>>
>> Jussi
>>
> 
> My Ryzen 5700G L1 cache size is 64Kb by core, according to this link: 
> https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-7-5700g.c2472
> 
> The object file of the interpreter loop (gbx_exec_loop.c) has less than 
> 32Kb of machine code inside according to 'objdump'.
> 

OK, L1 cache is usually divided in two: one half for instructions, 
another half for the data. So the interpreter loop must be less than 32K.

What to put elsewhere? How to reduce the verbosity of the x86 
instructions? Difficult problems...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Sat Oct  8 22:59:52 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 23:59:52 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with interpreter optimization and CPU
 behaviour
In-Reply-To: <c8e7cab7-b724-8d62-3d6f-6cc4c68a2d37@gambas-basic.org>
References: <4c5dc806-e9c6-348d-791d-75fae1481ca9@gambas-basic.org>
 <CAFJMe7RgD3j=+yDV8hxQGebC0tbhuuHsUEyFc9s4ohxi5M9u6Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <a2c238f6-701c-05eb-4993-a0865c4cb0e5@gambas-basic.org>
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Message-ID: <CAFJMe7Qg=MVuzrA+z3W3rRriJU32qwuYJhgMu3v3ywH4JnCrDw@mail.gmail.com>

Very complicated stuff... have you tried to compile the interpreter with
Clang?

Jussi

On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 11:11 PM Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Le 08/10/2022 ? 20:44, Benoit Minisini a ?crit :
> > Le 08/10/2022 ? 20:15, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit :
> >> Could be some limit in the speculative execution. Any correlations to
> >> the L1 - L4 cache sizes of your CPU?
> >>
> >> Jussi
> >>
> >
> > My Ryzen 5700G L1 cache size is 64Kb by core, according to this link:
> > https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-7-5700g.c2472
> >
> > The object file of the interpreter loop (gbx_exec_loop.c) has less than
> > 32Kb of machine code inside according to 'objdump'.
> >
>
> OK, L1 cache is usually divided in two: one half for instructions,
> another half for the data. So the interpreter loop must be less than 32K.
>
> What to put elsewhere? How to reduce the verbosity of the x86
> instructions? Difficult problems...
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Sat Oct  8 23:57:47 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 23:57:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
In-Reply-To: <421ca657-14d2-7424-50f9-ad02cd30b248@gambas-basic.org>
References: <CABuQYCDFOK7mRvCOmzru7b5Smj6RtgiuA1LVxmd_cunqwxr+zA@mail.gmail.com>
 <72c39491dd94429e8d97b2a4be845ff58a26f2ea.camel@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <83eb4e67-f7eb-9289-924d-67c0f077084e@belmotek.net>

El 8/10/22 a las 20:05, Benoit Minisini escribi?:
> Gambas does not make the distinction between the different locale 
> categories. This is why it reads 'LANG' if 'LC_ALL' is void, and ignores 
> all specific locale categories.

Exactly, but it happens that in my LANG configuration is not null, 
because it has the parameter es_ES.utf8, hence my comment about 
something strange happening.
According to the code + my locale, gambas should detect the language but 
it does not.
Martin.


From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Sun Oct  9 00:06:45 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 00:06:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Project language is always en_US
In-Reply-To: <62a67eea-c06b-6de9-0ef0-42cd48aaa1ce@gambas-basic.org>
References: <CABuQYCDFOK7mRvCOmzru7b5Smj6RtgiuA1LVxmd_cunqwxr+zA@mail.gmail.com>
 <72c39491dd94429e8d97b2a4be845ff58a26f2ea.camel@gmail.com>
 <b5da8b6f-5742-1637-6651-f84fe866a3eb@belmotek.net>
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Message-ID: <93da58aa-4f61-ac5f-2d30-197e0cb88f0e@belmotek.net>

El 8/10/22 a las 20:03, Benoit Minisini escribi?:
> Which version of Gambas do you use? This code is more than two years 
> old, now it is:

I use gambas 3.17.3 from manjaro repo for coding (where is always en_US).

Then the sample code I took from 3.14.90 sorry I made a mistake, I 
should have taken the current code.
But anyway in manjaro ide 3.17.3 the system language is not detected either.
Regards.
Martin.

From claus.dietrich at freenet.de  Sun Oct  9 19:24:17 2022
From: claus.dietrich at freenet.de (Claus Dietrich)
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 19:24:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bool@(),
 Byte@()... functions can be the target of an affectation now.
Message-ID: <25958792-b01f-17ed-0f4f-8b36a18f6bd3@freenet.de>

>Now you can write:
>
>Integer@(Pointer) = Value
>
>It's the POKE instruction for those old enough to remember the BASIC of 
>Amstrad / Commodore / ... of the good old days.
>
>Regards,
>
>-- 
>Beno?t Minisini.

Yes, but during these old days we were able to poke values into USART registers
and parallel interfaces including the LPT port without being root. I am assuming
that you don't refer to these good old times, correct? :-)

Regards
Claus



  



From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sun Oct  9 19:44:52 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 19:44:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bool@(),
 Byte@()... functions can be the target of an affectation now.
In-Reply-To: <25958792-b01f-17ed-0f4f-8b36a18f6bd3@freenet.de>
References: <25958792-b01f-17ed-0f4f-8b36a18f6bd3@freenet.de>
Message-ID: <d7046f3e-c9bf-5f93-c379-6aadf90b9671@gambas-basic.org>

Le 09/10/2022 ? 19:24, Claus Dietrich a ?crit?:
>> Now you can write:
>>
>> Integer@(Pointer) = Value
>>
>> It's the POKE instruction for those old enough to remember the BASIC 
>> of Amstrad / Commodore / ... of the good old days.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -- 
>> Beno?t Minisini.
> 
> Yes, but during these old days we were able to poke values into USART 
> registers
> and parallel interfaces including the LPT port without being root. I am 
> assuming
> that you don't refer to these good old times, correct? :-)
> 
> Regards
> Claus
> 

Alas you can do something similar only inside the kernel now. :-)

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From claus.dietrich at freenet.de  Mon Oct 10 09:33:27 2022
From: claus.dietrich at freenet.de (Claus Dietrich)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 09:33:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drag & Drop ListView selection, does not work
Message-ID: <32773280-30ac-6c61-dc40-e4be0f6fa5e6@freenet.de>

 >On 9/23/22 16:58, gian via User wrote:
>>/In this test if you try to move by dragging it with the left mouse 
button an Item to another Item the first Item will take the />>/position of the other Item which will move together with all those that 
precede (or follow)?it?by?one?position. />>//>>/My intent is to obtain, along with the displacement, a correct 
selection of?the?displaced?Item. />>//>>/The selection happens correctly only after the third attempt, from 
there on?it?works?fine,?why? />
>I am finding the same behavior.
>
>After the very first drag and drop operation, *something* is causing the internal item cursor to be set to the original position 
>of the dragged item, and the item now in that position is also selected. It is as if the ListView is attempting to maintain the 
>GUI state of the container. An iteration of the System.Backtrace collection, coded within the ListView1_Select event handler, 
>indicates it may be related to GridView.TimerScroll_Timer.1202.
>
>That internally-forced selection is repeated with every press of the keyboard down-arrow and can only be overcome by manually 
>making a selection with the mouse. Once it is overcome, the behavior is as expected.
>
>I think there is nothing you can do to alleviate that anomalous behavior, Gianluigi. I think we need someone like Beno?t to 
>confirm the behavior of ListView/TreeView/GridView after Remove/Add or Drag/Drop operations.
>
>
>-- 
>Lee

Dear Lee
Only for your information: I launched an according bug report (2639) and Beno?t fixed it.
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/a08d60a2b1e28f9629a686497feda2ae522ab781
Gianluigi is informed already.
Best regards
Claus


From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 16:29:09 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 10:29:09 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drag & Drop ListView selection, does not work
In-Reply-To: <32773280-30ac-6c61-dc40-e4be0f6fa5e6@freenet.de>
References: <32773280-30ac-6c61-dc40-e4be0f6fa5e6@freenet.de>
Message-ID: <786bfa9f-9501-6c48-e5e3-a668088e1be7@gmail.com>

On 10/10/22 03:33, Claus Dietrich wrote:
> Dear?Lee
> Only?for?your?information:?I?launched?an?according?bug?report?(2639)?and?Beno?t?fixed?it.
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/a08d60a2b1e28f9629a686497feda2ae522ab781
> Gianluigi?is?informed?already.
> Best?regards
> Claus

That's great. Thank you, Claus.

And, thank you, Beno?t, for fixing it.


-- 
Lee


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 19:39:03 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 18:39:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] an observation on window placement with multiple
 screens
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBO60CSB8K=6FPQEPrUGz139VZ6huiJBRtADQzAiFq0-w@mail.gmail.com>

I just had a little holiday in a chalet. and that was nice.
We took a laptop and a HDMI lead and plugged into the TV there.
Using the TV for watching films and the laptop screen for other stuff

There seemed to be a common problem for me not just with my own gambas apps
but also with the IDE.

Every window/dialog/message that popped up was popping up the the TV screen
while the applications were being used on the laptop screen.

iirc the only ones i could control were the ones that used a
Settings.Read() and only after moving them to the right screen before a
Settings.Write()
So I guess those ones had the screen explicitly set.
Default behavior seemed to be to only open on the default desktop screen
and not the one the applications was open on. was fairly annoying.

Is there no checking of which screen to open new windows on?
Maybe a Property like Application.SameScreen = True to activate detection
and force windows to open on the correct screen?

Respects
BruceS
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Mon Oct 10 21:04:59 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 21:04:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dialog box to select options.
Message-ID: <1006f9f3-c726-a5a0-e6a0-e97379994232@belmotek.net>

Hi there.
Please, could someone tell me if there is already a class or form that 
allows to choose between several options that works similar to input box 
but with radio buttons for example.
Something similar to attached picture
Thanks.
Martin.
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 11 00:25:03 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 00:25:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dialog box to select options.
In-Reply-To: <1006f9f3-c726-a5a0-e6a0-e97379994232@belmotek.net>
References: <1006f9f3-c726-a5a0-e6a0-e97379994232@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <d7e58497-7f1c-4185-9d89-152c61df844e@libero.it>

Il 10/10/22 21:04, Martin ha scritto:
> Hi there.
> Please, could someone tell me if there is already a class or form that 
> allows to choose between several options that works similar to input box 
> but with radio buttons for example.
> Something similar to attached picture
> Thanks.
> Martin.
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Hi Martin,

do you mean something like that?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Tue Oct 11 09:37:57 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 09:37:57 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dialog box to select options.
In-Reply-To: <d7e58497-7f1c-4185-9d89-152c61df844e@libero.it>
References: <1006f9f3-c726-a5a0-e6a0-e97379994232@belmotek.net>
 <d7e58497-7f1c-4185-9d89-152c61df844e@libero.it>
Message-ID: <b2fcd249-c1b3-2849-ec86-de25b412beaa@belmotek.net>

El 11/10/22 a las 0:25, gian via User escribi?:
> do you mean something like that?
Yes !! exactly like that.
Thanks. (Grazie mille)


From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 11 10:01:29 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 10:01:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dialog box to select options.
In-Reply-To: <b2fcd249-c1b3-2849-ec86-de25b412beaa@belmotek.net>
References: <1006f9f3-c726-a5a0-e6a0-e97379994232@belmotek.net>
 <d7e58497-7f1c-4185-9d89-152c61df844e@libero.it>
 <b2fcd249-c1b3-2849-ec86-de25b412beaa@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <f7136072-f4ce-488f-00c4-4e202921130c@libero.it>

Il 11/10/22 09:37, Martin ha scritto:
> El 11/10/22 a las 0:25, gian via User escribi?:
>> do you mean something like that?
> Yes !! exactly like that.
> Thanks. (Grazie mille)
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

?

Hi Martin,

since you're talking about input boxes maybe this can inspire you (I 
couldn't find it yesterday):

https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2019-September/067852.html

It's basically all code from Benoit :-)

Regards
Gianluigi

From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Tue Oct 11 10:15:26 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 10:15:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dialog box to select options.
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El 11/10/22 a las 10:01, gian via User escribi?:
> since you're talking about input boxes maybe this can inspire you (I 
> couldn't find it yesterday):
> It's basically all code from Benoit ?

Good, it is very interesting also, because the Main form pass the list 
of options, that made dynamic FInputCombo form.
Regards.
Martin.

From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 11 14:07:58 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 14:07:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dialog box to select options.
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Il 11/10/22 10:15, Martin ha scritto:
> El 11/10/22 a las 10:01, gian via User escribi?:
>> since you're talking about input boxes maybe this can inspire you (I 
>> couldn't find it yesterday):
>> It's basically all code from Benoit ?
> 
> Good, it is very interesting also, because the Main form pass the list 
> of options, that made dynamic FInputCombo form.
> Regards.
> Martin.
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

I had fun doing a fusion of both projects :-)

Regards
Gianluigi
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From gambas at servinfo.it  Tue Oct 11 14:58:51 2022
From: gambas at servinfo.it (Marco Ancillotti)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 14:58:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Apache config
Message-ID: <1a24f5ff-3346-67e5-40f6-146c9689427b@servinfo.it>

Hi all,

is there a guide on how to configure apache to serve gambas web form ?

I have lighttpd that work but I need to setup an apache2 to serve my app.

This is my config:

<IfModule mod_alias.c>
 ??????? <IfModule mod_cgi.c>
 ??????????????? Define ENABLE_USR_LIB_CGI_BIN
 ??????? </IfModule>

 ??????? <IfModule mod_cgid.c>
 ?????????????? Define ENABLE_USR_LIB_CGI_BIN
 ??????? </IfModule>

 ??????? <IfDefine ENABLE_USR_LIB_CGI_BIN>
 ??????????????? ScriptAlias /gbx/ /var/www/html/gbx/
 ??????????????? <Directory "/var/www/html/gbx">
 ??????????????????????? AllowOverride None
 ??????????????????????? Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
 ??????????????????????? Require all granted
 ??????????????????????? AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .sh .pl .gambas
 ??????????????? </Directory>
 ??????? </IfDefine>
</IfModule>

When I run gambas program I see a gbr3 process defunct and the web 
server log timeout:

 ?AH01220: Timeout waiting for output from CGI script 
/var/www/html/gbx/tcadmin
 ?Script timed out before returning headers: tcadmin

Other cgi ( like perl ) work without problem.

Thank's in advance,
marco.




From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Oct 11 19:00:47 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 13:00:47 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Apache config
In-Reply-To: <1a24f5ff-3346-67e5-40f6-146c9689427b@servinfo.it>
References: <1a24f5ff-3346-67e5-40f6-146c9689427b@servinfo.it>
Message-ID: <5f745011-ebc4-1909-9c41-a1aa67bbad78@gmail.com>

On 10/11/22 08:58, Marco Ancillotti wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> is there a guide on how to configure apache to serve gambas web form ?
> 
> I have lighttpd that work but I need to setup an apache2 to serve my app.
> 
> This is my config:
> 
> <IfModule mod_alias.c>
>  ??????? <IfModule mod_cgi.c>
>  ??????????????? Define ENABLE_USR_LIB_CGI_BIN
>  ??????? </IfModule>
> 
>  ??????? <IfModule mod_cgid.c>
>  ?????????????? Define ENABLE_USR_LIB_CGI_BIN
>  ??????? </IfModule>
> 
>  ??????? <IfDefine ENABLE_USR_LIB_CGI_BIN>
>  ??????????????? ScriptAlias /gbx/ /var/www/html/gbx/
>  ??????????????? <Directory "/var/www/html/gbx">
>  ??????????????????????? AllowOverride None
>  ??????????????????????? Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
>  ??????????????????????? Require all granted
>  ??????????????????????? AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .sh .pl .gambas
>  ??????????????? </Directory>
>  ??????? </IfDefine>
> </IfModule>
> 
> When I run gambas program I see a gbr3 process defunct and the web server log timeout:
> 
>  ?AH01220: Timeout waiting for output from CGI script /var/www/html/gbx/tcadmin
>  ?Script timed out before returning headers: tcadmin
> 
> Other cgi ( like perl ) work without problem.
> 
> Thank's in advance,
> marco.
> 

Lighttpd seems to be more forgiving, and more intelligent in some cases, than Apache2. I suspect there is something in your 
application that Apache does not like.

The Web form example created when you create a new ("New project...") Web form application runs fine on my system with both 
Lighttpd and Apache2. Perhaps you could start with that on Apache and then add in functionality from your application until you 
find the one that makes Apache choke.

Here is my ScriptAlias and CGI config from 'default-server.conf':
~~~
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/srv/www/cgi-bin/"

# "/srv/www/cgi-bin" should be changed to whatever your ScriptAliased
# CGI directory exists, if you have that configured.
#
<Directory "/srv/www/cgi-bin">
  AllowOverride None
  Options +ExecCGI -Includes
  <IfModule !mod_access_compat.c>
   Require all granted
  </IfModule>
  <IfModule mod_access_compat.c>
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
  </IfModule>
</Directory>
~~~

For some reason unknown to me, the only place I needed to add ".gambas" to the CGI script handler was in 'mod_userdir.conf'.

You didn't mention what Linux distro you're using. But, maybe the some of this info might be helpful:
https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2021-June/073486.html


-- 
Lee


From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Tue Oct 11 19:55:05 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 10:55:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bool@(),
 Byte@()... functions can be the target of an affectation now.
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This is fantastic optimization. thank you! 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 

----- On Oct 8, 2022, at 5:55 PM, Gambas mailing list <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> wrote: 

> Ah, ok.
> thanks.

> 8 ott 2022, 17:39 da benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org:

>> Le 08/10/2022 ? 17:38, Benoit Minisini a ?crit :

>>> Le 08/10/2022 ? 16:50, vuott--- via User a ?crit :

>>>> Hello Benoit,
>>>> excuse my ignorance, but what does it mean those functions ? be the target of an
>>>> affectation ? ?

>>>> Regards
>>>> vuott

>>> Now you can write:

>>> Integer@(Pointer) = Value

>>> It's the POKE instruction for those old enough to remember the BASIC of Amstrad
>>> / Commodore / ... of the good old days.

>>> Regards,

>> And, more important, the JIT compiler optimizes these instructions by doing a
>> direct memory access in unsafe mode.

>> Regards,

>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini.

>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Wed Oct 12 06:38:21 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 21:38:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] When creating stall package forces 3.17 if using 3.18
 byte code
Message-ID: <1228686776.86858.1665549501277.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

When trying to build a version of app for byte code 3.18 under extra dependencies it always forces 3.17.... 

Which is not good, when trying to force a seperate requirement for updating packages for new releases. 

Am I doing something wrong? 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Wed Oct 12 07:36:33 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 22:36:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Jit crash, Maybe its me?
Message-ID: <817215777.86906.1665552993334.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

The following happens when I try to compile / run a class, maybe I am doing something wrong? 

gb.jit: error: unable to compile JIT code of 'gb': 

In file included from /tmp/gambas.1000/197223/jit/gb.c:1: 
/tmp/gambas.1000/197223/jit/gb.c: In function ?jit_shmvarstorage_29_?: 
/tmp/gambas.1000/197223/jit/jit.h:1539:31: error: incompatible types when assigning to type ?VALUE? {aka ?union <anonymous>?} from type ?GB_STRING? {aka ?struct <anonymous>?} 
1539 | #define PUSH_u(_val) ({ *sp = (_val); GB.BorrowValue(sp); sp++; }) 
| ^ 
/tmp/gambas.1000/197223/jit/jit.h:1589:43: note: in definition of macro ?BORROW_s? 
1589 | #define BORROW_s(_val) ({ GB_STRING _v = (_val); if ((_v).type == GB_T_STRING) GB.RefString(_v.value.addr); _v; }) 
| ^~~~ 
/tmp/gambas.1000/197223/jit/jit.h:1753:43: note: in expansion of macro ?PUSH_u? 
1753 | #define CONV(_val, _src, _dest, _type) ({ PUSH_##_src(_val); SP = sp; JIT.conv(sp - 1, (GB_TYPE)(_type)); POP_##_dest(); }) 
| ^~~~~ 
/tmp/gambas.1000/197223/jit/gb.c:5664:17: note: in expansion of macro ?CONV? 
5664 | as = BORROW_s(CONV(SUBR_LEFT(CONV(({({({PUSH_v(l2);PUSH_UNKNOWN(89);});PUSH_UNKNOWN(91);});CALL_UNKNOWN(93);POP_u();}), u, s, GB_T_STRING), 10), u, s, GB_T_STRING)); 
| ^~~~ 
/tmp/gambas.1000/197223/jit/jit.h:1539:31: error: incompatible types when assigning to type ?VALUE? {aka ?union <anonymous>?} from type ?GB_STRING? {aka ?struct <anonymous>?} 
1539 | #define PUSH_u(_val) ({ *sp = (_val); GB.BorrowValue(sp); sp++; }) 
| ^ 
/tmp/gambas.1000/197223/jit/gb.c:5679:385: note: in expansion of macro ?PUSH_u? 
5679 | as = ({PUSH_t(CONSTANT_s(0x55c30a815d7c, 27));({({PUSH_v(l1);PUSH_UNKNOWN(130);});PUSH_i(10);CALL_SUBR_CODE(133, 0x55c30a506ec0, 0x6902);});({({PUSH_v(l1);PUSH_UNKNOWN(135);});PUSH_t(CONSTANT_s(0x55c30a815d98, 7));CALL_SUBR_CODE(138, 0x55c30a506cc0, 0x6C02);});({({PUSH_v(l1);PUSH_UNKNOWN(140);});PUSH_t(CONSTANT_s(0x55c30a815d98, 7));CALL_SUBR_CODE(143, 0x55c30a506cc0, 0x6C02);});PUSH_u(SUBR_LEFT(CONV(({({({PUSH_v(l1);PUSH_UNKNOWN(145);});PUSH_UNKNOWN(147);});CALL_UNKNOWN(149);POP_u();}), u, s, GB_T_STRING), 10));CALL_SUBR_CODE(152, 0x55c30a504d40, 0x4D05);POP_BORROW_s();}); 
| ^~~~~~ 


** 
** OOPS! INTERNAL ERROR. Program aborting, sorry! :-( 
** Unable to compile JIT source file 
** 
** Please send a bug report to the gambas bugtracker [1] or to the gambas mailing-list [2]. 
** [1] http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker 
** [2] https://lists.gambas-basic.org/listinfo/user 
** 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Wed Oct 12 11:08:27 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 11:08:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dialog box to select options.
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Il 11/10/22 14:07, gian via User ha scritto:
> I had fun doing a fusion of both projects


I do not know exactly why I love the Open event, perhaps because I place 
it on the light side of programming, while _new, _init, etc. I place 
them on the dark side.

I am afraid that this love has led me to write some confusing code, 
besides, someone said that the night brings advice.

I therefore attach my final version of InputRadioButton (box), hoping to 
have improved it.

Regards

Gianluigi
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Wed Oct 12 19:58:24 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 19:58:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] When creating stall package forces 3.17 if using
 3.18 byte code
In-Reply-To: <1228686776.86858.1665549501277.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <1228686776.86858.1665549501277.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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Le 12/10/2022 ? 06:38, Brian G a ?crit?:
> When trying to build a version of app for byte code 3.18 under extra 
> dependencies it always forces 3.17....
> 
> Which is not good, when trying to force a seperate requirement for 
> updating packages for new releases.
> 
> Am I doing something wrong?
> 
> "Failure is the key to success;
>  ?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
> 

Yes, because 3.18 does not exist yet. You must not create packages that 
relie on a development version of a software!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Wed Oct 12 19:59:33 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 19:59:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Jit crash, Maybe its me?
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Le 12/10/2022 ? 07:36, Brian G a ?crit?:
> The following happens when I try to compile / run a class, maybe I am 
> doing something wrong?

Normally you didn't. It must be a bug in the JIT compiler.

But I need the full project to fix it, or at least the function or the 
class that is JIT compiled.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Wed Oct 12 21:24:15 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (=?UTF-8?B?QnJpYW4gRw==?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 22:24:15 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] 
 =?utf-8?q?When_creating_stall_package_forces_3=2E1?=
 =?utf-8?q?7_if_using_3=2E18_byte_code?=
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Yes but to properly test it, I must create components the rely on 3.18. so the apps using them pick up the correct version. 
--
Thanks
Brian G Wednesday, 12 October 2022, 10:59AM -07:00 from Benoit Minisini  benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org :

>Le 12/10/2022 ? 06:38, Brian G a ?crit?:
> When trying to build a version of app for byte code 3.18 under extra 
> dependencies it always forces 3.17....
>
> Which is not good, when trying to force a seperate requirement for 
> updating packages for new releases.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> "Failure is the key to success;
> ?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
>
>
>Yes, because 3.18 does not exist yet. You must not create packages that 
>relie on a development version of a software!
>
>-- 
>Beno?t Minisini.
>
>
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Wed Oct 12 22:01:25 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 22:01:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dialog box to select options.
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El 12/10/22 a las 11:08, gian via User escribi?:
> 
> I do not know exactly why I love the Open event, perhaps because I place 
> it on the light side of programming, while _new, _init, etc. I place 
> them on the dark side.
> 
> I am afraid that this love has led me to write some confusing code, 
> besides, someone said that the night brings advice.
> 
> I therefore attach my final version of InputRadioButton (box), hoping to 
> have improved it.

Yeah, I guess it's a bit like Jin-Jang.
The known and the unknown, the comfort zone and the uncertainty zone, 
and so on.
I'm glad you had fun writing the code.
And this snippet has potential because in principle you could put in any 
kind of variable.

   If Me.ShowModal() Then
     Return $sValue
   Endif
...
Me.Close(False)
...
Me.Close(True)

Thanks again, I will apply this code in a few programs.
Martin.

From claus.dietrich at freenet.de  Thu Oct 13 12:09:41 2022
From: claus.dietrich at freenet.de (Claus Dietrich)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:09:41 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] an observation on window placement with multiple
 screens
Message-ID: <e46b6ae1-f587-dd89-6b4b-f7eb8f3d48c1@freenet.de>

Hi Bruce

I always work with two screens and according to my experiences Gambas 
behaves like all other applications. It opens its windows on the primary 
screen unless you tell the windows (by setting their x and y - 
coordinates) to open it somewhere else. It belongs to one of my 
standards, that Gambas apps remember (by using gb.settings), where they 
were located last time.

Most of the Gambas apps I came across have the annoying effect you are 
describing. They have typically been developed on a single screen 
platform and people did not consider the consequences if their app is 
started on a multi screen platform.

Best regards

Claus





From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 14:03:47 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:03:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] an observation on window placement with multiple
 screens
In-Reply-To: <e46b6ae1-f587-dd89-6b4b-f7eb8f3d48c1@freenet.de>
References: <e46b6ae1-f587-dd89-6b4b-f7eb8f3d48c1@freenet.de>
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I want to handle it first hand, not after via save/restore a setting
if i use Settings.Write(MyForm)
It saves the window geometry and the screen number so i could read the
Form.Settings property but Benoit has stated this syntax may change so it's
not wise to use it.
I've looked at the Screen class and there is no ID or Number property to
get data about the current screen.

Can the Screens[] array Index be a reliable Id, so Screens[1] is 1 as the
Form.Settings would save it?

Can i tell what screen my open application is on?
Then force other windows like Dialogs and Messages and widows that have not
had their position saved to be on the chosen screen?

If not then i think gambas could really do with this feature.
It was not my experience that all other applications behaved this way. only
some.

Respects
BruceS


On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 11:10, Claus Dietrich <claus.dietrich at freenet.de>
wrote:

> Hi Bruce
>
> I always work with two screens and according to my experiences Gambas
> behaves like all other applications. It opens its windows on the primary
> screen unless you tell the windows (by setting their x and y -
> coordinates) to open it somewhere else. It belongs to one of my
> standards, that Gambas apps remember (by using gb.settings), where they
> were located last time.
>
> Most of the Gambas apps I came across have the annoying effect you are
> describing. They have typically been developed on a single screen
> platform and people did not consider the consequences if their app is
> started on a multi screen platform.
>
> Best regards
>
> Claus
>
>
>
>
>
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Thu Oct 13 14:42:24 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 14:42:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] an observation on window placement with multiple
 screens
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCC6ZW-WzhU7mTqHe5CutOZ3=d1QN8OBoGuE111nNj+txA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e46b6ae1-f587-dd89-6b4b-f7eb8f3d48c1@freenet.de>
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Le 13/10/2022 ? 14:03, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> I want to handle it first hand, not after via save/restore a setting
> if i use Settings.Write(MyForm)
> It saves the window geometry and the screen number so i could read the 
> Form.Settings property but Benoit has stated this syntax may change so 
> it's not wise to use it.
> I've looked at the Screen class and there is no ID or Number property to 
> get data about the current screen.
> 
> Can the Screens[] array Index be a reliable Id, so Screens[1] is 1 as 
> the Form.Settings would save it?
> 
> Can i tell what screen my open application is on?
> Then force other windows like Dialogs and Messages and widows that have 
> not had their position saved to be on the chosen screen?
> 
> If not then i think gambas could really do with this feature.
> It was not my experience that all other applications behaved this way. 
> only some.
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

The problem are the following:

- You can't directly specifiy the screen a window is. You can only 
specify its position, and the screen is deduced from that position (all 
screens making one sole big logical screen).

- The window manager decides where a window appears. On X11, you can 
suggest a position.

- On Wayland, you can't specify a window position!

So it's almost impossible to have a window opening intelligently 
automatically in all cases. I will think a bit and see what I can do, 
but I'm afraid that on Wayland we can't do anything.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 15:16:20 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 23:46:20 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] an observation on window placement with multiple
 screens
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References: <e46b6ae1-f587-dd89-6b4b-f7eb8f3d48c1@freenet.de>
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On Thu, 2022-10-13 at 14:42 +0200, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Le 13/10/2022 ? 14:03, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> > I want to handle it first hand, not after via save/restore a
> > setting
> > if i use Settings.Write(MyForm)
> > It saves the window geometry and the screen number so i could read
> > the 
> > Form.Settings property but Benoit has stated this syntax may change
> > so 
> > it's not wise to use it.
> > I've looked at the Screen class and there is no ID or Number
> > property to 
> > get data about the current screen.
> > 
> > Can the Screens[] array Index be a reliable Id, so Screens[1] is 1
> > as 
> > the Form.Settings would save it?
> > 
> > Can i tell what screen my open application is on?
> > Then force other windows like Dialogs and Messages and widows that
> > have 
> > not had their position saved to be on the chosen screen?
> > 
> > If not then i think gambas could really do with this feature.
> > It was not my experience that all other applications behaved this
> > way. 
> > only some.
> > 
> > Respects
> > BruceS
> > 
> 
> The problem are the following:
> 
> - You can't directly specifiy the screen a window is. You can only 
> specify its position, and the screen is deduced from that position
> (all 
> screens making one sole big logical screen).
> 
> - The window manager decides where a window appears. On X11, you can 
> suggest a position.
> 
> - On Wayland, you can't specify a window position!
> 
> So it's almost impossible to have a window opening intelligently 
> automatically in all cases. I will think a bit and see what I can do,
> but I'm afraid that on Wayland we can't do anything.
> 
> Regards,
> 
There are acouple of things here that I'd like to comment on.

First, I see and agree with Benoit that "the window manager decides
where a window appears". It is a right royal pain that most window
managers either deny nor respect any wish that a window should appear
on a particular "screen" i.e a specific virtual desktop "screen".
Windows will appear by default on the current virtual desktop, no
matter how I wish otherwise.

Secondly, and more importantly as BruceS has intimated, there is no way
that I can control where modal popups or message windows appear. But my
wish would be this... 
I would really like the popups to be centered in the window that called
the popup not just in the center of the screen. For example 1) when
using an extended screen across two "X terminals" popups appear
centered exactly on the entire screen. In other words, half on my
primary display and half on the extended display. This is bad enough if
both displays are running at the same resolution and worse if they are
not. For example 2) if I am running several instances of a project
tiled on the display (whether using an extended display or not) the
popup appears in the center of the screen. This gives me no indication
of which instance the message (for instance) belongs to. It would be
much more preferrable that it was in the center of the window that it
belongs to.

Sorry if I have mixed terminals, screens and displays up here but it
has been a long and ongoing problem. Please, Benoit, make the popups
appear in the center of the window that caused the popup.

regards
bruce (t'other one)


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 17:44:03 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:44:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] an observation on window placement with multiple
 screens
In-Reply-To: <b1ab0d3e-280b-2509-fcde-3af7e0625f8a@gambas-basic.org>
References: <e46b6ae1-f587-dd89-6b4b-f7eb8f3d48c1@freenet.de>
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 13:43, Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Le 13/10/2022 ? 14:03, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > I want to handle it first hand, not after via save/restore a setting
> > if i use Settings.Write(MyForm)
> > It saves the window geometry and the screen number so i could read the
> > Form.Settings property but Benoit has stated this syntax may change so
> > it's not wise to use it.
> > I've looked at the Screen class and there is no ID or Number property to
> > get data about the current screen.
> >
> > Can the Screens[] array Index be a reliable Id, so Screens[1] is 1 as
> > the Form.Settings would save it?
> >
> > Can i tell what screen my open application is on?
> > Then force other windows like Dialogs and Messages and widows that have
> > not had their position saved to be on the chosen screen?
> >
> > If not then i think gambas could really do with this feature.
> > It was not my experience that all other applications behaved this way.
> > only some.
> >
> > Respects
> > BruceS
> >
>
> The problem are the following:
>
> - You can't directly specifiy the screen a window is. You can only
> specify its position, and the screen is deduced from that position (all
> screens making one sole big logical screen).
>
> - The window manager decides where a window appears. On X11, you can
> suggest a position.
>
> - On Wayland, you can't specify a window position!
>
> So it's almost impossible to have a window opening intelligently
> automatically in all cases. I will think a bit and see what I can do,
> but I'm afraid that on Wayland we can't do anything.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>

I thought the "one big screen" was only relevant to virtual desktops not
physical displays/monitors?
Virtual desktop positions is also pretty uncontrollable as you can get
window positions but they are relevant to the active window.
So for an application that has a window on desktop 1 and 2 from desktop 1
window positions for both windows are window 1 as normal and window 2 is
it's position + screen width but if on desktop 2 window 2 is normal and
window 1 is position - screen width.
That's a bit confusing but can be dealt with.

The problem though is you cannot re-open a window on another desktop as you
cannot set a screen position greater than a single screen width or less
than 0 so windows only ever open on the active desktop

So the problem here is not to do with virtual desktop screens as they in
fact do open windows on the relevant desktop.
it's actual physical displays

Respects
BruceS
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Thu Oct 13 18:18:08 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:18:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] an observation on window placement with multiple
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Le 13/10/2022 ? 17:44, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 13:43, Benoit Minisini 
> <benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org 
> <mailto:benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Le 13/10/2022 ? 14:03, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
>      > I want to handle it first hand, not after via save/restore a setting
>      > if i use Settings.Write(MyForm)
>      > It saves the window geometry and the screen number so i could
>     read the
>      > Form.Settings property but Benoit has stated this syntax may
>     change so
>      > it's not wise to use it.
>      > I've looked at the Screen class and there is no ID or Number
>     property to
>      > get data about the current screen.
>      >
>      > Can the Screens[] array Index be a reliable Id, so Screens[1] is
>     1 as
>      > the Form.Settings would save it?
>      >
>      > Can i tell what screen my open application is on?
>      > Then force other windows like Dialogs and Messages and widows
>     that have
>      > not had their position saved to be on the chosen screen?
>      >
>      > If not then i think gambas could really do with this feature.
>      > It was not my experience that all other applications behaved this
>     way.
>      > only some.
>      >
>      > Respects
>      > BruceS
>      >
> 
>     The problem are the following:
> 
>     - You can't directly specifiy the screen a window is. You can only
>     specify its position, and the screen is deduced from that position (all
>     screens making one sole big logical screen).
> 
>     - The window manager decides where a window appears. On X11, you can
>     suggest a position.
> 
>     - On Wayland, you can't specify a window position!
> 
>     So it's almost impossible to have a window opening intelligently
>     automatically in all cases. I will think a bit and see what I can do,
>     but I'm afraid that on Wayland we can't do anything.
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     -- 
>     Beno?t Minisini.
> 
> 
> I thought the "one big screen" was only relevant to virtual desktops not 
> physical displays/monitors?
> Virtual desktop positions is also pretty uncontrollable as you can get 
> window positions but they are relevant to the active window.
> So for an application that has a window on desktop 1 and 2 from desktop 
> 1 window positions for both windows are window 1 as normal and window 2 
> is it's position + screen width but if on desktop 2 window 2 is normal 
> and window 1 is position - screen width.
> That's a bit confusing but can be dealt with.
> 
> The problem though is you cannot re-open a window on another desktop as 
> you cannot set a screen position greater than a single screen width or 
> less than 0 so windows only ever open on the active desktop
> 
> So the problem here is not to do with virtual desktop screens as they in 
> fact do open windows on the relevant desktop.
> it's actual physical displays
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

I don't see physical screens from the toolkits. I see only one big 
logical screen, with part of it associated with a screen number.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 23:48:15 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 22:48:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] an observation on window placement with multiple
 screens
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2022, 17:19 Benoit Minisini, <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Le 13/10/2022 ? 17:44, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 13:43, Benoit Minisini
> > <benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org
> > <mailto:benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Le 13/10/2022 ? 14:03, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >      > I want to handle it first hand, not after via save/restore a
> setting
> >      > if i use Settings.Write(MyForm)
> >      > It saves the window geometry and the screen number so i could
> >     read the
> >      > Form.Settings property but Benoit has stated this syntax may
> >     change so
> >      > it's not wise to use it.
> >      > I've looked at the Screen class and there is no ID or Number
> >     property to
> >      > get data about the current screen.
> >      >
> >      > Can the Screens[] array Index be a reliable Id, so Screens[1] is
> >     1 as
> >      > the Form.Settings would save it?
> >      >
> >      > Can i tell what screen my open application is on?
> >      > Then force other windows like Dialogs and Messages and widows
> >     that have
> >      > not had their position saved to be on the chosen screen?
> >      >
> >      > If not then i think gambas could really do with this feature.
> >      > It was not my experience that all other applications behaved this
> >     way.
> >      > only some.
> >      >
> >      > Respects
> >      > BruceS
> >      >
> >
> >     The problem are the following:
> >
> >     - You can't directly specifiy the screen a window is. You can only
> >     specify its position, and the screen is deduced from that position
> (all
> >     screens making one sole big logical screen).
> >
> >     - The window manager decides where a window appears. On X11, you can
> >     suggest a position.
> >
> >     - On Wayland, you can't specify a window position!
> >
> >     So it's almost impossible to have a window opening intelligently
> >     automatically in all cases. I will think a bit and see what I can do,
> >     but I'm afraid that on Wayland we can't do anything.
> >
> >     Regards,
> >
> >     --
> >     Beno?t Minisini.
> >
> >
> > I thought the "one big screen" was only relevant to virtual desktops not
> > physical displays/monitors?
> > Virtual desktop positions is also pretty uncontrollable as you can get
> > window positions but they are relevant to the active window.
> > So for an application that has a window on desktop 1 and 2 from desktop
> > 1 window positions for both windows are window 1 as normal and window 2
> > is it's position + screen width but if on desktop 2 window 2 is normal
> > and window 1 is position - screen width.
> > That's a bit confusing but can be dealt with.
> >
> > The problem though is you cannot re-open a window on another desktop as
> > you cannot set a screen position greater than a single screen width or
> > less than 0 so windows only ever open on the active desktop
> >
> > So the problem here is not to do with virtual desktop screens as they in
> > fact do open windows on the relevant desktop.
> > it's actual physical displays
> >
> > Respects
> > BruceS
> >
>
> I don't see physical screens from the toolkits. I see only one big
> logical screen, with part of it associated with a screen number.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>

Dang. My apologies.

Maybe the other bruces request to attach windows to other windows could be
a way?

Something like using the With keyword perhaps would make sense?
Like...
Message("text") With FMain
FNewWindow.ShowModal() With FMain
Dialog.OpenFile() With FMain.
Etc

Possibly handled at top level Window.class or Form.class so it works for
all kinds of new windows/dialogs?

Respects.
BruceS

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From claus.dietrich at freenet.de  Fri Oct 14 13:59:29 2022
From: claus.dietrich at freenet.de (Claus Dietrich)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 13:59:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wrong Date Language in Gambas WebPages (gb.web)
Message-ID: <dd8415b3-6607-a715-b802-215c91110219@freenet.de>

Hi
Recently Hans sent me a note that the output of

<h2><%=Format(Now, "dd. mmmm yyyy")%></h2>

inside a Gambas WegPage application (using gb.web
andgb.util.web)provides anEnglish date format
("12. October 2022") instead of German. I can confirm this.
Is there a way tolocalize this without writing a
sub-routine or usingJava-Script?

If not, could this be fixed?

Best regards
Claus

From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Fri Oct 14 14:22:04 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 14:22:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wrong Date Language in Gambas WebPages (gb.web)
In-Reply-To: <dd8415b3-6607-a715-b802-215c91110219@freenet.de>
References: <dd8415b3-6607-a715-b802-215c91110219@freenet.de>
Message-ID: <9568b1ab-6ca1-295f-48ce-b18e9697f3ab@gambas-basic.org>

Le 14/10/2022 ? 13:59, Claus Dietrich a ?crit?:
> Hi
> Recently Hans sent me a note that the output of
> 
> <h2><%=Format(Now, "dd. mmmm yyyy")%></h2>
> 
> inside a Gambas WegPage application (using gb.web
> andgb.util.web)provides anEnglish date format
> ("12. October 2022") instead of German. I can confirm this.
> Is there a way tolocalize this without writing a
> sub-routine or usingJava-Script?
> 
> If not, could this be fixed?
> 
> Best regards
> Claus
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

The language set by the application is normally the language requested 
by your browser in its HTTP requests.

Can you check that it requests the German language?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Fri Oct 14 14:30:12 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 14:30:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wrong Date Language in Gambas WebPages (gb.web)
In-Reply-To: <9568b1ab-6ca1-295f-48ce-b18e9697f3ab@gambas-basic.org>
References: <dd8415b3-6607-a715-b802-215c91110219@freenet.de>
 <9568b1ab-6ca1-295f-48ce-b18e9697f3ab@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <b42bf197-c621-091b-75ad-13eddcc200ae@gambas-basic.org>

Le 14/10/2022 ? 14:22, Benoit Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 14/10/2022 ? 13:59, Claus Dietrich a ?crit?:
>> Hi
>> Recently Hans sent me a note that the output of
>>
>> <h2><%=Format(Now, "dd. mmmm yyyy")%></h2>
>>
>> inside a Gambas WegPage application (using gb.web
>> andgb.util.web)provides anEnglish date format
>> ("12. October 2022") instead of German. I can confirm this.
>> Is there a way tolocalize this without writing a
>> sub-routine or usingJava-Script?
>>
>> If not, could this be fixed?
>>
>> Best regards
>> Claus
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> The language set by the application is normally the language requested 
> by your browser in its HTTP requests.
> 
> Can you check that it requests the German language?
> 

Oops, sorry, I was wrong, this is not automatic.

You ave to explicitly do that if you want your application to follow the 
browser language:

System.Language = Request.Language

Otherwise, the default locale provided by the environment of the HTTP 
server that run the Gambas CGI script is used.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From claus.dietrich at freenet.de  Fri Oct 14 16:05:25 2022
From: claus.dietrich at freenet.de (Claus Dietrich)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 16:05:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wrong Date Language in Gambas WebPages (gb.web)
Message-ID: <2368829d-f3be-a8a6-596c-6c3a3ef8148c@freenet.de>

>Oops, sorry, I was wrong, this is not automatic.
>
>You ave to explicitly do that if you want your application to follow the 
>browser language:
>
>System.Language = Request.Language
>
>Otherwise, the default locale provided by the environment of the HTTP 
>server that run the Gambas CGI script is used.
>
>Regards,
>
>-- 
>Beno?t Minisini.

Hi Beno?t
It works! This was new to me.
Thanks for your quick help and

best regards
Claus


From hans at gambas-buch.de  Sat Oct 15 18:21:30 2022
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:21:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
Message-ID: <62908c0f-5daa-a7d3-0701-f49293181a9c@gambas-buch.de>

Hello.

I refer to the given example in the documentation: 
https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/webpage.
The translations in lines 2 and 3, for example to German, are displayed 
correctly in the generated web page.

(1) <<Page title="Gambas WebPage Example">>
(2)?? <h2><%Print ("Gambas WebPage are easy!")%></h2>
(3)?? <h2><%Print ("Time is ")%><%=Format(Now, "hh:nn:ss")%></h2>
(4) <</Page>>

Unfortunately, I cannot find an approach to also translate the text of 
the `title` argument in line 1 from "Gambas WebPage Example" to "Gambas 
Webpage Beispiel".
Can someone help me?

With kind regards

Hans
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Sat Oct 15 23:18:09 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 23:18:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <62908c0f-5daa-a7d3-0701-f49293181a9c@gambas-buch.de>
References: <62908c0f-5daa-a7d3-0701-f49293181a9c@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <2868d9ff-4685-e02b-0ea5-c22615a26807@libero.it>

Il 15/10/22 18:21, Hans Lehmann ha scritto:
> Hello.
> 
> I refer to the given example in the documentation: 
> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/webpage.
> The translations in lines 2 and 3, for example to German, are displayed 
> correctly in the generated web page.
> 
> (1) <<Page title="Gambas WebPage Example">>
> (2)?? <h2><%Print ("Gambas WebPage are easy!")%></h2>
> (3)?? <h2><%Print ("Time is ")%><%=Format(Now, "hh:nn:ss")%></h2>
> (4) <</Page>>
> 
> Unfortunately, I cannot find an approach to also translate the text of 
> the `title` argument in line 1 from "Gambas WebPage Example" to "Gambas 
> Webpage Beispiel".
> Can someone help me?
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----


Hi Hans,

[code]
<% System.Language = Request.Language %>
<html>
   <title><%Print ("Web Page Written with Gambas3")%></title>
   <body>
     <h1><%Print ("Web Page Written with Gambas3")%></h1>
     <h2><%=Format(Now, "dddd, dd mmmm yyyy")%></h2>
     <h3><%=Format(12345.67, "$,#.00")%></h3>
   </body>
</html>
[/code]

See attached image on Italian browser

Regards

Gianluigi
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From hans at gambas-buch.de  Sun Oct 16 10:41:16 2022
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 10:41:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <2868d9ff-4685-e02b-0ea5-c22615a26807@libero.it>
References: <62908c0f-5daa-a7d3-0701-f49293181a9c@gambas-buch.de>
 <2868d9ff-4685-e02b-0ea5-c22615a26807@libero.it>
Message-ID: <4e8eb36d-ab5d-b651-7e55-7fdf7cb605ae@gambas-buch.de>

Am 15.10.22 um 23:18 schrieb gian via User:
> The translations in lines 2 and 3, for example to German, are 
> displayed correctly in the generated web page.
>
> (1) <<Page title="Gambas WebPage Example">>
> (2)?? <h2><%Print ("Gambas WebPage are easy!")%></h2>
> (3)?? <h2><%Print ("Time is ")%><%=Format(Now, "hh:nn:ss")%></h2>
> (4) <</Page>>

Hello Gian,

Thank you for confirming the working translations in lines 2 and 3.

This is about the translation of the text "Gamba's WebPage Example" in 
the argument named 'title'.
I can't find an approach for this translation in line 1; hence my call 
for help in the list.

With kind regards

Hans
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 16 10:52:19 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 09:52:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <4e8eb36d-ab5d-b651-7e55-7fdf7cb605ae@gambas-buch.de>
References: <62908c0f-5daa-a7d3-0701-f49293181a9c@gambas-buch.de>
 <2868d9ff-4685-e02b-0ea5-c22615a26807@libero.it>
 <4e8eb36d-ab5d-b651-7e55-7fdf7cb605ae@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBD99VSjURPhfdZukNAnN=h3CdXV9pKhvrY1K2_YMUa9A@mail.gmail.com>

Did you try line 1like Gian posted it?

  <title><%Print ("Web Page Written with Gambas3")%></title>

I believe (but i could be wrong) that putting the text inside parenthesis
(brackets) exposes it to the translator.



On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 09:42, Hans Lehmann <hans at gambas-buch.de> wrote:

> Am 15.10.22 um 23:18 schrieb gian via User:
>
> The translations in lines 2 and 3, for example to German, are displayed
> correctly in the generated web page.
>
> (1) <<Page title="Gambas WebPage Example">>
> (2)   <h2><%Print ("Gambas WebPage are easy!")%></h2>
> (3)   <h2><%Print ("Time is ")%><%=Format(Now, "hh:nn:ss")%></h2>
> (4) <</Page>>
>
>
> Hello Gian,
>
> Thank you for confirming the working translations in lines 2 and 3.
>
> This is about the translation of the text "Gamba's WebPage Example" in the
> argument named 'title'.
> I can't find an approach for this translation in line 1; hence my call for
> help in the list.
>
> With kind regards
>
> Hans
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Sun Oct 16 11:49:54 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 11:49:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBD99VSjURPhfdZukNAnN=h3CdXV9pKhvrY1K2_YMUa9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <62908c0f-5daa-a7d3-0701-f49293181a9c@gambas-buch.de>
 <2868d9ff-4685-e02b-0ea5-c22615a26807@libero.it>
 <4e8eb36d-ab5d-b651-7e55-7fdf7cb605ae@gambas-buch.de>
 <CABuQYCBD99VSjURPhfdZukNAnN=h3CdXV9pKhvrY1K2_YMUa9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7b9fb74f-f766-a5a0-03ed-7531883444b0@libero.it>

Il 16/10/22 10:52, Bruce Steers ha scritto:
> Did you try line 1like Gian posted it?
> 
>  ? <title><%Print ("Web Page Written with Gambas3")%></title>
> 
> I believe (but i could be wrong) that putting the text inside 
> parenthesis (brackets) exposes it to the translator.
> 


Hi,

Yes, it is exactly as Bruce said.

I am not an expert in programming in general, much less so with respect 
to the Web, but I believe the mechanism Gambas uses is this:

The Webpage is on the server which normally (but not always) uses the 
English (US) language.

The browser asks the server for the page.

The server reads the language of the browser and, if it exists, offers 
the correctly translated page.

In this link a sequence of images from a VBox with Mint and Gambas stable:

https://paste.c-net.org/CremeIrene

Regards

Gianluigi

From bagoneo at libero.it  Mon Oct 17 16:56:15 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 16:56:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <f7136072-f4ce-488f-00c4-4e202921130c@libero.it>
References: <1006f9f3-c726-a5a0-e6a0-e97379994232@belmotek.net>
 <d7e58497-7f1c-4185-9d89-152c61df844e@libero.it>
 <b2fcd249-c1b3-2849-ec86-de25b412beaa@belmotek.net>
 <f7136072-f4ce-488f-00c4-4e202921130c@libero.it>
Message-ID: <eb5b2a20-4646-143c-77d1-57f284b6237b@libero.it>

Hi Hans,

Re-reading your email I realized that I didn't understand what code you 
were referring to.

Perhaps if the link had been to an existing page I would have figured it 
out sooner, although this is not certain :-)

If, as I believe, you were referring to the code on this page:
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/webpage

then to get a translation on the master you need to write this in 
Main.webpage:

[code]
<% System.Language = Request.Language %>
<%
If Left(Request.Language, 2) = "it" Then
%>
   <<Page title="Pagina Web Scritta con Gambas3">>
<%
Else
%>
<<Page title="Gambas WebPage Example">>
<%
Endif
%>
   <h2><%Print ("Gambas WebPage are easy!")%></h2>
   <h2><%Print ("Time is ")%><%=Format(Now, "hh:nn:ss")%></h2>
<</Page>>
[/code]

Or this in Main.class:

[code]
' Public sTitle As String
'
' Public Sub _new()
'
'   If Left(Request.Language, 2) = "it" Then
'     sTitle = "Pagina Web Scritta con Gambas3"
'   Else
'     sTitle = "Web Page Written with Gambas3"
'   Endif
'
' End
[/code]

Unfortunately, this (still in Main.class):
[code]
Public sTitle As String = ("Web Page Written with Gambas3")
[/code]
seems to work only without a window.
That is, in the console it writes correct HTML code that then does not work:

[console]
Content-type: text/html;charset=utf-8

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" 
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

<head>
   <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
   <link rel="stylesheet" href="/style.css">
   <link rel="icon" href="/img/icon.png" type="image/png">
   <title>Pagina Web Scritta con Gambas3</title>
</head>

<body>
   <h2>Gambas WebPage ? facile!
</h2>
   <h2>Il tempo ?
15:46:03</h2>
</body>

</html>
[/console]

I attach image of the master's browser

Regards

Gianluigi
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Mon Oct 17 17:51:28 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 17:51:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A few lines to add to the wiki
Message-ID: <cf132855-8d96-793d-b43f-69a8ae91458a@libero.it>

Hi Christof,

I had already deleted the emails regarding this subject:

Translations - Webpage

then I went and dredged up an old reply I deleted everything, wrote the 
new subject line, wrote in my bad English the message I wanted Hans to 
get and sent.

Only later did I remember that you had said that doing so was wrong.

Can you confirm that to write *correctly* a reply you need to create a 
new message, I repeat a new message write to:

user at lists.gambas-basic.org

In the Subject write exactly:

Re: [Gambas-user] <the subject of the discussion>.
(in this case Translations - Webpage)

Would you care to add these few pointers to the wiki?

If they were there I probably would have avoided yet another error.

Thank you for your attention

Regards

Gianluigi

From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Oct 17 19:54:18 2022
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 19:54:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A few lines to add to the wiki
In-Reply-To: <cf132855-8d96-793d-b43f-69a8ae91458a@libero.it>
References: <cf132855-8d96-793d-b43f-69a8ae91458a@libero.it>
Message-ID: <1874dc9f-8c65-734a-7fdf-1b779655f3d2@deganius.de>

Dear Gianluigi,

Am 17.10.22 um 17:51 schrieb gian via User:

> Only later did I remember that you had said that doing so was wrong.

I can't see anything wrong.

> Can you confirm that to write*correctly*  a reply you need to create a
> new message, I repeat a new message write to:
> 
> user at lists.gambas-basic.org
> 
> In the Subject write exactly:
> 
> Re: [Gambas-user] <the subject of the discussion>.
> (in this case Translations - Webpage)
> 
> Would you care to add these few pointers to the wiki?
> 
> If they were there I probably would have avoided yet another error.
> 
> Thank you for your attention

If you hit Ctrl-U in your thunderbird you see the headers of a mail.

Every mail has an individual 'message id' in the mail headers. It looks 
like so:

'Message-ID: <62908c0f-5daa-a7d3-0701-f49293181a9c at gambas-buch.de>'

The only thing which must be known is, that if you answer to a mail by 
hitting the <Reply> button in your mail client, then the mail client 
writes a line in the header of your new mail, which looks like so:

'In-Reply-To: <62908c0f-5daa-a7d3-0701-f49293181a9c at gambas-buch.de>'

This points to the mail you are answering to.

With these lines in the headers of different mails a mail client is able 
to distinguish if a mail starts a new thread (no line 'In-Reply-To' in 
the header) or if it is an answer to an existing mail (a line 
'In-Reply-To' in the header) and if it is part of an existing thread (a 
couple of mails which are answers to a first mail which started the 
discussion).

The only thing that you can do wrong is: Try to start a new thread by 
answering to another mail (hitting <Reply>) and changing the subject. 
This is called 'highjacking a thread'.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
Dies ist keine Signatur

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From bagoneo at libero.it  Mon Oct 17 22:49:50 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 22:49:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
Message-ID: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>


Hi Christof,

This is just a test of correct answer to use when we need to respond but 
unfortunately we have deleted from our mail client the discussion.

1) Through the archive placed here: 
https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/ user/ I moved to the relevant 
discussion (Translations - Webpage).

2) By clicking on:
user at lists.gambas-basic.org
I opened a new message and in Subject I wrote:
Re: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage

I hope it works, in the sense that it sits correctly on the archive.
At the end of the test, please delete it.

Thank you

Kind regards

Gianluigi

From bagoneo at libero.it  Mon Oct 17 23:18:27 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 23:18:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A few lines to add to the wiki
In-Reply-To: <1874dc9f-8c65-734a-7fdf-1b779655f3d2@deganius.de>
References: <cf132855-8d96-793d-b43f-69a8ae91458a@libero.it>
 <1874dc9f-8c65-734a-7fdf-1b779655f3d2@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <b98347e6-a3b4-4cc1-fa86-2a5104a8dc1c@libero.it>

Il 17/10/22 19:54, Christof Thalhofer ha scritto:
> ...
> If you hit Ctrl-U in your thunderbird you see the headers of a mail.
> 
> Every mail has an individual 'message id' in the mail headers. It looks 
> like so:
> 
> 'Message-ID: <62908c0f-5daa-a7d3-0701-f49293181a9c at gambas-buch.de>'
> 
> The only thing which must be known is, that if you answer to a mail by 
> hitting the <Reply> button in your mail client, then the mail client 
> writes a line in the header of your new mail, which looks like so:
> 
> 'In-Reply-To: <62908c0f-5daa-a7d3-0701-f49293181a9c at gambas-buch.de>'
> 
> This points to the mail you are answering to.
> ...


Hi Christof,

I thank you very much for the explanation.

The first time I made a mistake, in fact the file placed itself in the 
queue of another discussion (red arrow)

The last test (which you can concellare if you want) worked (blue arrow) 
and it queued correctly

Thanks again

Kind regards

Gianluigi
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 18 00:07:40 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 00:07:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>
References: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>
Message-ID: <291e9630-68de-9436-88f8-e145c04054fa@libero.it>

Hi Benoit,

can you please tell me why this code in console (*) writes the 
translated title, but if you use the internal browser the title remains 
in English?
The code was copied from here:
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/webpage

See attached project

Thank you and regards

Gianluigi

(*)

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

<head>
   <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
   <link rel="stylesheet" href="/style.css">
   <link rel="icon" href="/img/icon.png" type="image/png">
  <title>Pagina Web Scritta con Gambas3</title>
</head>

<body>
   <h2>Gambas WebPage ? facile!
</h2>
   <h2>Il tempo ?
23:58:56</h2>
</body>

</html>

From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 18 00:13:56 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 00:13:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <291e9630-68de-9436-88f8-e145c04054fa@libero.it>
References: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>
 <291e9630-68de-9436-88f8-e145c04054fa@libero.it>
Message-ID: <2ace798e-05e4-dd2a-b772-142531a0b343@libero.it>

Il 18/10/22 00:07, gian via User ha scritto:
> Hi Benoit,
> ...
> See attached project
> ...

sorry :-(


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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Tue Oct 18 07:46:11 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 07:46:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <291e9630-68de-9436-88f8-e145c04054fa@libero.it>
References: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>
 <291e9630-68de-9436-88f8-e145c04054fa@libero.it>
Message-ID: <15fd94e9-b7eb-d5fc-1a1c-07549338f983@gambas-basic.org>

Le 18/10/2022 ? 00:07, gian via User a ?crit?:
> Hi Benoit,
> 
> can you please tell me why this code in console (*) writes the 
> translated title, but if you use the internal browser the title remains 
> in English?
> The code was copied from here:
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/webpage
> 
> See attached project
> 
> Thank you and regards
> 
> Gianluigi
> 

I don't know, maybe because the browser widget does not send the 
language to the server correctly.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Oct 18 09:43:14 2022
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 09:43:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>
References: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>
Message-ID: <1c99b65f-ecef-fd0f-26a0-f6320b548f34@deganius.de>

Am 17.10.22 um 22:49 schrieb gian via User:

> This is just a test of correct answer to use when we need to respond but
> unfortunately we have deleted from our mail client the discussion.
> 
> 1) Through the archive placed here:
> https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/ user/ I moved to the relevant
> discussion (Translations - Webpage).
> 
> 2) By clicking on:
> user at lists.gambas-basic.org
> I opened a new message and in Subject I wrote:
> Re: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
> 
> I hope it works, in the sense that it sits correctly on the archive.

This Mail opened a new thread because it didn't contain 'In-Reply-To:' 
in the headers. So there are now two threads with the subject 
'Translations - Webpage'.

It can be that the program that writes the archive doesn't use this 
mechanism and sorts the threads by subject and date but if you look at 
the threaded view in Thunderbird you see that your mail was outside the 
original thread and every mail that answers to this one forms a new thread.

 > At the end of the test, please delete it.

No, I don't delete mails in the archive. :-)

------------------------------------------------------------

All in all don't worry about doing something wrong. I don't see any 
problems in the way how the people write here. Sometimes there happens 
an accident, but that's not a real problem.

There's only one thing to avoid: Trying to start a new thread by hitting 
<Reply> in the mail program and changing the subject.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 18 09:47:26 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 09:47:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <15fd94e9-b7eb-d5fc-1a1c-07549338f983@gambas-basic.org>
References: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>
 <291e9630-68de-9436-88f8-e145c04054fa@libero.it>
 <15fd94e9-b7eb-d5fc-1a1c-07549338f983@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <e981622e-22a6-6423-24e4-5cd9fe66561b@libero.it>

Il 18/10/22 07:46, Benoit Minisini ha scritto:
> Le 18/10/2022 ? 00:07, gian via User a ?crit?:
>> Hi Benoit,
>>
>> can you please tell me why this code in console (*) writes the 
>> translated title, but if you use the internal browser the title 
>> remains in English?
>> The code was copied from here:
>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/webpage
>>
>> See attached project
>>
>> Thank you and regards
>>
>> Gianluigi
>>
> 
> I don't know, maybe because the browser widget does not send the 
> language to the server correctly.
> 

Hi Benoit,

I thank you very much for your answer.

Claus Dietrich experimented with this code:

[code]
<%
Dim sTitle As String
System.Language = Request.Language
sTitle = ("Gambas WebPage Example")
%>
<<Page title=<%=sTitle%>>>
   <h2><%Print ("Gambas WebPage are easy!")%></h2>
   <h2><%Print ("Time : ")%><%=Format(Now, "hh:nn:ss")%></h2>
<</Page>>
[/code]

Unfortunately, it leaves a printed ">" on the browser window as the 
first line.

Can you do something, or recommend Hans for the book chapter?

Regards

Gianluigi

From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 18 10:05:01 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 10:05:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <1c99b65f-ecef-fd0f-26a0-f6320b548f34@deganius.de>
References: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>
 <1c99b65f-ecef-fd0f-26a0-f6320b548f34@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <1d4fb216-33b3-4c0f-346a-9999428c9cef@libero.it>

Il 18/10/22 09:43, Christof Thalhofer ha scritto:
> All in all don't worry about doing something wrong. I don't see any 
> problems in the way how the people write here. Sometimes there happens 
> an accident, but that's not a real problem.
> 
> There's only one thing to avoid: Trying to start a new thread by hitting 
> <Reply> in the mail program and changing the subject.

Hi Christof,

So, if I deleted the discussion, there is no correct way to hook it, 
although the last one seems to work (at least as far as the archive is 
concerned).

Again, thank you for the thorough explanations

Regards

Gianluigi

From hans at gambas-buch.de  Tue Oct 18 10:38:14 2022
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 10:38:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <e981622e-22a6-6423-24e4-5cd9fe66561b@libero.it>
References: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>
 <291e9630-68de-9436-88f8-e145c04054fa@libero.it>
 <15fd94e9-b7eb-d5fc-1a1c-07549338f983@gambas-basic.org>
 <e981622e-22a6-6423-24e4-5cd9fe66561b@libero.it>
Message-ID: <01f71951-8680-161d-d380-62c41abea93c@gambas-buch.de>

Am 18.10.22 um 09:47 schrieb gian via User:
> <<Page title=<%=sTitle%>>> 

Schreibe doch einfach:

<<Page title=<%=sTitle%> >>

Mit freundlichem Gru?

Hans
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 18 10:58:38 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 10:58:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <e981622e-22a6-6423-24e4-5cd9fe66561b@libero.it>
References: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>
 <291e9630-68de-9436-88f8-e145c04054fa@libero.it>
 <15fd94e9-b7eb-d5fc-1a1c-07549338f983@gambas-basic.org>
 <e981622e-22a6-6423-24e4-5cd9fe66561b@libero.it>
Message-ID: <695a7092-1719-acba-165a-5646f3d2b0a4@libero.it>

Hi Benoit,

lol

the solution is very simple :-)

Hans Lehmann told me that just put a space between "sTitle%>" and ">>".

Beware that I had tried and was getting errors or the title was not 
writted, the space just goes there and nowhere else.

Sorry for the trouble

Regards

Gianluigi

From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 18 11:04:50 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 11:04:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translations - Webpage
In-Reply-To: <695a7092-1719-acba-165a-5646f3d2b0a4@libero.it>
References: <94dc8d74-a934-060f-f249-d85186fa7eaa@libero.it>
 <291e9630-68de-9436-88f8-e145c04054fa@libero.it>
 <15fd94e9-b7eb-d5fc-1a1c-07549338f983@gambas-basic.org>
 <e981622e-22a6-6423-24e4-5cd9fe66561b@libero.it>
 <695a7092-1719-acba-165a-5646f3d2b0a4@libero.it>
Message-ID: <2c78851a-2243-15cf-dabd-ba76ea929868@libero.it>

Il 18/10/22 10:58, gian via User ha scritto:
> Hi Benoit,
> 
> lol
> 
> the solution is very simple :-)
> 
> Hans Lehmann told me that just put a space between "sTitle%>" and ">>".
> 
> Beware that I had tried and was getting errors or the title was not 
> writted, the space just goes there and nowhere else.
> 
> Sorry for the trouble
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gianluigi
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----


Sorry, I didn't mean to be an interpreter, I thought Hans had written to 
me privately :-(

Regards
Gianluigi

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 13:18:08 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 12:18:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] an observation on window placement with multiple
 screens
In-Reply-To: <41b4fa58-4c85-461d-0070-d26d1b59685d@gambas-basic.org>
References: <e46b6ae1-f587-dd89-6b4b-f7eb8f3d48c1@freenet.de>
 <CABuQYCC6ZW-WzhU7mTqHe5CutOZ3=d1QN8OBoGuE111nNj+txA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCBaxRdFeKVSz4u0r7d2xxiMZWVQojqg9V9FvOAhkmJTAQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 17:19, Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Le 13/10/2022 ? 17:44, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 13:43, Benoit Minisini
> > <benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org
> > <mailto:benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Le 13/10/2022 ? 14:03, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >      > I want to handle it first hand, not after via save/restore a
> setting
> >      > if i use Settings.Write(MyForm)
> >      > It saves the window geometry and the screen number so i could
> >     read the
> >      > Form.Settings property but Benoit has stated this syntax may
> >     change so
> >      > it's not wise to use it.
> >      > I've looked at the Screen class and there is no ID or Number
> >     property to
> >      > get data about the current screen.
> >      >
> >      > Can the Screens[] array Index be a reliable Id, so Screens[1] is
> >     1 as
> >      > the Form.Settings would save it?
> >      >
> >      > Can i tell what screen my open application is on?
> >      > Then force other windows like Dialogs and Messages and widows
> >     that have
> >      > not had their position saved to be on the chosen screen?
> >      >
> >      > If not then i think gambas could really do with this feature.
> >      > It was not my experience that all other applications behaved this
> >     way.
> >      > only some.
> >      >
> >      > Respects
> >      > BruceS
> >      >
> >
> >     The problem are the following:
> >
> >     - You can't directly specifiy the screen a window is. You can only
> >     specify its position, and the screen is deduced from that position
> (all
> >     screens making one sole big logical screen).
> >
> >     - The window manager decides where a window appears. On X11, you can
> >     suggest a position.
> >
> >     - On Wayland, you can't specify a window position!
> >
> >     So it's almost impossible to have a window opening intelligently
> >     automatically in all cases. I will think a bit and see what I can do,
> >     but I'm afraid that on Wayland we can't do anything.
> >
> >     Regards,
> >
> >     --
> >     Beno?t Minisini.
> >
> >
> > I thought the "one big screen" was only relevant to virtual desktops not
> > physical displays/monitors?
> > Virtual desktop positions is also pretty uncontrollable as you can get
> > window positions but they are relevant to the active window.
> > So for an application that has a window on desktop 1 and 2 from desktop
> > 1 window positions for both windows are window 1 as normal and window 2
> > is it's position + screen width but if on desktop 2 window 2 is normal
> > and window 1 is position - screen width.
> > That's a bit confusing but can be dealt with.
> >
> > The problem though is you cannot re-open a window on another desktop as
> > you cannot set a screen position greater than a single screen width or
> > less than 0 so windows only ever open on the active desktop
> >
> > So the problem here is not to do with virtual desktop screens as they in
> > fact do open windows on the relevant desktop.
> > it's actual physical displays
> >
> > Respects
> > BruceS
> >
>
> I don't see physical screens from the toolkits. I see only one big
> logical screen, with part of it associated with a screen number.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>

I just read your reply to this question on stack overflow but it didn't
work for me.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53802427/gambas3-show-form-on-second-screen

But to be fair i was working on the Virtual desktops not actual physical
screens, is your comment correct for actual screens?

There seems to be no way to move a window beyond the current screen size,
any number larger than the screen width just opens the window to the far
right of the visible screen.

Is this the window managers doing or is gambas using a Max() somewhere to
limit the position?

Respects
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 13:43:23 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 12:43:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] GB_PCODE_VERSION doesn't seem to work anymore.
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBToT+vQrrSDHBH0nepwFk2zC+xuCyHBg4MxaFDp+vUdg@mail.gmail.com>

So i just loaded a system with an older gambas and found the following...

1. My programs compiled on dev gambas with the PCODE set to 3.8 that used
to work fine now do not on an older gambas.
(one complained about Args.class bytecode, Args.class is imported into the
source folder so i assume the error was ARGS binary in the .gambas folder)

2. When loading them into gambas on those systems to recompile the once set
Environment="GB_PCODE_VERSION=3.8" had disappeared (Can it save in .project
still as well as the new .settings for backward compatibility?).

3. they compiled okay and then worked on the older gambas but that defeated
the purpose of GB_PCODE_VERSION

Respects
BruceS
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Thu Oct 20 15:37:08 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 15:37:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] GB_PCODE_VERSION doesn't seem to work anymore.
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBToT+vQrrSDHBH0nepwFk2zC+xuCyHBg4MxaFDp+vUdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBToT+vQrrSDHBH0nepwFk2zC+xuCyHBg4MxaFDp+vUdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c574c542-91d7-2b62-6b87-b81bc2474236@gambas-basic.org>

Le 20/10/2022 ? 13:43, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> So i just loaded a system with an older gambas and found the following...
> 
> 1. My programs compiled on dev gambas with the PCODE set to 3.8 that 
> used to work fine now do not on an older gambas.
> (one complained about Args.class bytecode, Args.class is imported into 
> the source folder so i assume the error was ARGS binary in the .gambas 
> folder)
> 
> 2. When loading them into gambas on those systems to recompile the once 
> set Environment="GB_PCODE_VERSION=3.8" had disappeared (Can it save in 
> .project still as well as the new .settings for backward compatibility?).
> 
> 3. they compiled okay and then worked on the older gambas but that 
> defeated the purpose of GB_PCODE_VERSION
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

The contents of ".project" file is not public, it can change at any moment.

In the development version, the bytecode version option is now stored in 
the 'ForceBytecodeVersion' option.

The environment variable defined in the debugger option has no effect 
anymore (it is not used by the compiler, but by the interpreter only).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From kicking177 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 16:12:47 2022
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 15:12:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] screen scraping web page
Message-ID: <32e55d2a-3089-5bc8-2cc3-d08bcba8fbaf@gmail.com>

Hi,
I want to grab the exchange rate and time off a web page, any 
suggestions on how others would go about or advice on why my approach 
now seems flawed.
I was just using e.g.
Shell "curl 'https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/quote/GBPEUR=X'" To strResponse
on a timer.
Then searching strResponse for nodes of interest, this seemed to work 
mostly okay.
But recently it starts okay, but then after while the content of 
strResponse seems off, as in time of day and rate is nothing like what 
it should be, and stays like that for each subsequent curl. If I kill 
the program and leave for a while it will again start okay and be fine 
for a while but then suddenly give these off results. I know it is not 
the website as such (in general) as browser on a seperate computer is 
showing the site via normal browser and all okay.
K.

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 18:26:45 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:26:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] GB_PCODE_VERSION doesn't seem to work anymore.
In-Reply-To: <c574c542-91d7-2b62-6b87-b81bc2474236@gambas-basic.org>
References: <CABuQYCBToT+vQrrSDHBH0nepwFk2zC+xuCyHBg4MxaFDp+vUdg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCC=_YEbWxWYtmmYZZgO8yVTpyq4vGg_R3FUCyK+37N9Aw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 at 14:38, Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Le 20/10/2022 ? 13:43, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > So i just loaded a system with an older gambas and found the following...
> >
> > 1. My programs compiled on dev gambas with the PCODE set to 3.8 that
> > used to work fine now do not on an older gambas.
> > (one complained about Args.class bytecode, Args.class is imported into
> > the source folder so i assume the error was ARGS binary in the .gambas
> > folder)
> >
> > 2. When loading them into gambas on those systems to recompile the once
> > set Environment="GB_PCODE_VERSION=3.8" had disappeared (Can it save in
> > .project still as well as the new .settings for backward compatibility?).
> >
> > 3. they compiled okay and then worked on the older gambas but that
> > defeated the purpose of GB_PCODE_VERSION
> >
> > Respects
> > BruceS
> >
>
> The contents of ".project" file is not public, it can change at any moment.
>
> In the development version, the bytecode version option is now stored in
> the 'ForceBytecodeVersion' option.
>
> The environment variable defined in the debugger option has no effect
> anymore (it is not used by the compiler, but by the interpreter only).
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>

My appologies Ben i just now tried re-compiling the programs on Dev to see
the errors and they were okay this time on 3.16 ?
yesterday 3 of 4 i tried gave errors.
weird

Respects
BruceS
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 18:53:18 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 12:53:18 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] RegExp not returning submatches
Message-ID: <c6004745-26ab-5bbd-0323-8cc2eefb1434@gmail.com>

 From http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.pcre/regexp/submatches:
"The SubMatches property is now deprecated. Use the Count property and the array accessor of the RegExp class directly."

That doesn't seem to work.

Given the following simple code:
[code]
Public Sub Main()

   Dim hRegex As RegExp

   hRegex = New RegExp("quick brown fox", "brown (\\S+)")
   Print hRegex.Text
   Print hRegex.Count
   For i As Integer = 0 To hRegex.Count - 1
     Print Subst("Index &1: &2", i, hRegex[i].Text)
   Next

End
[/code]

The result in the IDE console is:
brown fox
1
Index 0: brown fox


I may be doing something wrong, but I don't know what it might be.


-- 
Lee

From claus.dietrich at freenet.de  Thu Oct 20 21:02:53 2022
From: claus.dietrich at freenet.de (Claus Dietrich)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 21:02:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] an observation on window placement with multiple
 screens
Message-ID: <4f9ccd9c-7078-e489-fb73-1f81824e4d01@freenet.de>

Hi Bruce

It works perfectly with physical screens and this can be used to restore 
the last position of application windows on either screen (via 
settings). It can of course also be used to open the window directly on 
a certain screen as described in the link.

Regards

Claus


From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 21:35:16 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 15:35:16 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] screen scraping web page
In-Reply-To: <32e55d2a-3089-5bc8-2cc3-d08bcba8fbaf@gmail.com>
References: <32e55d2a-3089-5bc8-2cc3-d08bcba8fbaf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2e526e3-51d3-2114-d217-33e9ccdb5013@gmail.com>

On 10/20/22 10:12, KKing wrote:
> Hi,
> I want to grab the exchange rate and time off a web page, any suggestions on how others would go about or advice on why my 
> approach now seems flawed.
> I was just using e.g.
> Shell "curl 'https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/quote/GBPEUR=X'" To strResponse
> on a timer.
> Then searching strResponse for nodes of interest, this seemed to work mostly okay.
> But recently it starts okay, but then after while the content of strResponse seems off, as in time of day and rate is nothing 
> like what it should be, and stays like that for each subsequent curl. If I kill the program and leave for a while it will again 
> start okay and be fine for a while but then suddenly give these off results. I know it is not the website as such (in general) 
> as browser on a seperate computer is showing the site via normal browser and all okay.
> K.

I coded up a short test that shelled out to curl to retrieve the html page once per minute for over an hour. Only once did the 
time given in the response differ from what it should have been; it lagged by one minute.

The headers sent by the server includes this header:
cache-control: private, no-store, no-cache, max-age=0

So, it appears that the Yahoo server is not caching the response. Perhaps your ISP (or some other server or proxy) is caching it.

If that is the case, you might try appending a random query string parameter to the URL so that your ISP will see it as a 
different request and not cache it, eg.:

Shell "curl https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/quote/GBPEUR=X&rnd=" & Str(Rand(100000, 999999)) To sResponse
(Notice I removed the single-quotes as they don't seem to be necessary.)

As an aside, I'm sure you're aware of the HttpClient class. But, in this case, shelling out to curl seems to be simpler.


-- 
Lee


From bagoneo at libero.it  Thu Oct 20 23:31:30 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 23:31:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] RegExp not returning submatches
In-Reply-To: <c6004745-26ab-5bbd-0323-8cc2eefb1434@gmail.com>
References: <c6004745-26ab-5bbd-0323-8cc2eefb1434@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e9b4665c-110e-1e15-e7cd-a7b60266e93c@libero.it>

Il 20/10/22 18:53, T Lee Davidson ha scritto:

> That doesn't seem to work.
> 
> Given the following simple code:
> [code]
> Public Sub Main()
> 
>  ? Dim hRegex As RegExp
> 
>  ? hRegex = New RegExp("quick brown fox", "brown (\\S+)")
>  ? Print hRegex.Text
>  ? Print hRegex.Count
>  ? For i As Integer = 0 To hRegex.Count - 1
>  ??? Print Subst("Index &1: &2", i, hRegex[i].Text)
>  ? Next
> 
> End
> [/code]
> 
> The result in the IDE console is:
> brown fox
> 1
> Index 0: brown fox
> 
> 
> I may be doing something wrong, but I don't know what it might be.
> 
> 

Hi Lee,

to me your code is correct and is based on what is written in the Gambas 
wiki.

I think this is a bug that should be reported.

Regards

Gianluigi

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Fri Oct 21 02:43:32 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 20:43:32 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] RegExp not returning submatches
In-Reply-To: <e9b4665c-110e-1e15-e7cd-a7b60266e93c@libero.it>
References: <c6004745-26ab-5bbd-0323-8cc2eefb1434@gmail.com>
 <e9b4665c-110e-1e15-e7cd-a7b60266e93c@libero.it>
Message-ID: <9eb74aaf-edef-ecbd-b822-1c54928f820b@gmail.com>

On 10/20/22 17:31, gian via User wrote:
> Hi?Lee,
> 
> to me your code is correct and is based on what is written in the Gambas wiki.
> 
> I?think?this?is?a?bug?that?should?be?reported.

Thank you for looking into it, Gianluigi.

Bug reported.


-- 
Lee


From kicking177 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 21 11:23:42 2022
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:23:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] screen scraping web page
Message-ID: <16594fea-9f45-3b54-c3df-40e212057987@gmail.com>

Hi Lee,
thanks for the response, I was hitting once per second, so I will look 
at make it a bigger interval.
I did want to look at HttpClient or ilk as the actual web page auto 
updates itself so was hoping to make use of that instead of hitting it 
over and over, but it did look like it would be a lot more involved, so 
went for the simple hammer approach, which actually seemed to be fine 
for months until recently.
K

From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Fri Oct 21 12:04:41 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 12:04:41 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Beta testing - Photo organizer.
Message-ID: <304fe999-791e-8544-23e6-7b132ef91150@belmotek.net>

Hello friends.
I made a program to rename and move photos that are in a temporary 
download directory. I use the libexif library with Extern to read the 
metadata (writing metadata is not contemplated at the moment).
I try to make it very simple and less complex than programs like Rapid 
photo downloader.
There is a readme.md and readme.pdf in English that (I think) explains 
how to use it.
Please if someone can test if it works well on your system and make a 
review of the program it would be good for me to upload something more 
mature to the farm.
I'm especially interested in knowing if it works well on systems like 
Debian, Ubuntu, Mint or OpenSuse, since I only tested it on Manjaro.

There is no need to create an installation package, it runs from the IDE.

Important notice: Please make a copy of the pictures before working with 
them as this is an alpha version and may fail.

https://gitlab.com/belmotek/photo-organizer

Martin

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 21 18:11:48 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 17:11:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] wayland on the wiki
Message-ID: <CABuQYCD2CCo2U4BauX5vN3KV_5jMLc+MzJ3u1z+knd87AovUHA@mail.gmail.com>

I added a little info on the wiki to the FAQ about wayland.
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/faq#t13

The text is "to the best of my knowledge"

Possibly it needs more, possibly it's not welcome in the FAQ section,
possibly it's fine and it will do.

Please edit accordingly.
Respects
BruceS

the info does not read..
Wayland is a overrated piece of s**t do not use it!
;)

The info reads...
Will Gambas work on Wayland systems?

Yes, but Wayland lacks many features that a gambas GUI application may or
may not rely on.

Non-GUI applications should work as expected.

GUI applications not written with wayland in mind may lack some
functionality or possibly not open as expected do to restraints in things
like window placement.
Ie. unlike x11 systems wayland is in control of where the window opens not
the application so a program that should open it's window at specific
position will not on wayland. Applications that rely on their own window
placement will not work as they should on wayland.

There are other minor issues too.
In short, making a wayland compliant application will mostly involve using
less of the commonly used gui toolkit features. If you are developing the
project on a wayland system it should be clear that some things (especially
window positioning) will not work as would on an x11 system. These are not
bugs, this is just how wayland works.
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 21 23:32:41 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 22:32:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] desktop.x11.MoveWindow to another workspace segfault
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDy3htb_CByLF8AKerVw8ukX1QqdeGi-UFbeUysK1XQXw@mail.gmail.com>

so i found a way to move windows to other workspaces using gb.desktop.x11
move window

the following code...






*Public Sub btn2_Click()  Form2.Show  Dim iActiv As Integer =
X11.ActiveWindow  X11.MoveWindow(Form2.Id, Screen.W + 100, form2.Top)End*

that successfully moves a window to the workspace on the right.

Reason i'm posting is because if i do not use X11.ActiveWindow first then i
get a segfault 11

If i use X11.ActiveWindow in any way like above just putting it's value in
an unused variable then no segfault.

Respects
BruceS
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sat Oct 22 00:44:21 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 00:44:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] wayland on the wiki
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCD2CCo2U4BauX5vN3KV_5jMLc+MzJ3u1z+knd87AovUHA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCD2CCo2U4BauX5vN3KV_5jMLc+MzJ3u1z+knd87AovUHA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dc6f06f7-71cc-2019-9b04-a18f29ca2388@gambas-basic.org>

Le 21/10/2022 ? 18:11, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> I added a little info on the wiki to the FAQ about wayland.
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/faq#t13 
> <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/faq#t13>
> 
> The text is "to the best of my knowledge"
> 
> Possibly it needs more, possibly it's not welcome in the FAQ section, 
> possibly it's fine and it will do.
> 
> Please edit accordingly.
> Respects
> BruceS
> 
> the info does not read..
> Wayland is a overrated piece of s**t do not use it!
> ;)
> 
> The info reads...
> 
> 
>       Will Gambas work on Wayland systems?
> 
> Yes, but Wayland lacks many features that a gambas GUI application may 
> or may not rely on.
> 
> Non-GUI applications should work as expected.
> 
> GUI applications not written with wayland in mind may lack some 
> functionality or possibly not open as expected do to restraints in 
> things like window placement.
> Ie. unlike x11 systems wayland is in control of where the window opens 
> not the application so a program that should open it's window at 
> specific position will not on wayland. Applications that rely on their 
> own window placement will not work as they should on wayland.
> 
> There are other minor issues too.
> In short, making a wayland compliant application will mostly involve 
> using less of the commonly used gui toolkit features. If you are 
> developing the project on a wayland system it should be clear that some 
> things (especially window positioning) will not work as would on an x11 
> system. These are not bugs, this is just how wayland works.
> 

To be exact, both X11 and Wayland window managers decide where windows 
are in last resort.

In the X11 procotol, you can specify an initial window position, and 
move / resize any window, and the window manager may obey, or may not.

With wayland, it is specified that the window manager must not allow the 
client to move a window or specify an initial position. There is no 
protocol for that.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sat Oct 22 00:44:53 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 00:44:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] desktop.x11.MoveWindow to another workspace
 segfault
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDy3htb_CByLF8AKerVw8ukX1QqdeGi-UFbeUysK1XQXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCDy3htb_CByLF8AKerVw8ukX1QqdeGi-UFbeUysK1XQXw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1a83f531-e212-94e2-2223-bda580e43aa7@gambas-basic.org>

Le 21/10/2022 ? 23:32, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> so i found a way to move windows to other workspaces using 
> gb.desktop.x11 move window
> 
> the following code...
> *Public Sub btn2_Click()
> 
>  ? Form2.Show
>  ? Dim iActiv As Integer = X11.ActiveWindow
>  ? X11.MoveWindow(Form2.Id, Screen.W + 100, form2.Top)
> 
> End*
> 
> that successfully moves a window to the workspace on the right.
> 
> Reason i'm posting is because if i do not use X11.ActiveWindow first 
> then i get a segfault 11
> 
> If i use X11.ActiveWindow in any way like above just putting it's value 
> in an unused variable then no segfault.
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

As usual, post a project that reproduces the bug.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 23 15:35:58 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 14:35:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] x11.DesktopWindow.Desktop and MATE
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBfX0diCsRMqvk88exDo6q9-NCyrPf1qdhQSpJK_tAjMA@mail.gmail.com>

trying to help a user with workspace switching and i discovered something.
https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?p=6182#p6182

i found setting X11.DesktopWindow.Desktop did not work to move to another
workspace but using DesktopWindow.Move() did on MATE desktop.

then i found using DesktopWindow.Move was not working on gnome or cinnamon
but using DesktopWindow.Desktop did !

so i've had to use this..

  Dim xw As DesktopWindow = New DesktopWindow(Me.Handle)

  Select Direction

    Case Move_Right
      If Desktop.Type = "MATE" Then xw.Move(Screen.Width + Me.X, Me.Top)
Else xw.Desktop += 1

    Case Move_Left
      If Desktop.Type = "MATE" Then xw.Move(0 - Screen.Width + Me.X, Me.Top)
Else xw.Desktop = Max(xw.Desktop - 1, 0)

End Select

Is it a bug to report or can it be expected to behave different on the
various desktops?

Respects
BruceS
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sun Oct 23 16:00:13 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:00:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] x11.DesktopWindow.Desktop and MATE
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBfX0diCsRMqvk88exDo6q9-NCyrPf1qdhQSpJK_tAjMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBfX0diCsRMqvk88exDo6q9-NCyrPf1qdhQSpJK_tAjMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c38faf-103b-5f5d-9f22-40d194d1c5d9@gambas-basic.org>

Le 23/10/2022 ? 15:35, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> trying to help a user with workspace switching and i discovered something.
> https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?p=6182#p6182 
> <https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?p=6182#p6182>
> 
> i found setting X11.DesktopWindow.Desktop did not work to move to 
> another workspace but using DesktopWindow.Move() did on MATE desktop.
> 
> then i found using DesktopWindow.Move was not working on gnome or 
> cinnamon but using DesktopWindow.Desktop did !
> 
> so i've had to use this..
> 
> |||Dim| |xw ||As| |DesktopWindow = ||New| |DesktopWindow(||Me||.Handle)
> |
> |||Select| |Direction|
> |||Case| |Move_Right|
> |||If| |Desktop.Type = ||"MATE"| |Then| |xw.||Move||(Screen.Width + 
> ||Me||.X, ||Me||.Top) ||Else| |xw.Desktop += ||1|
> |||Case| |Move_Left|
> ||||If| |Desktop.Type = ||"MATE"| |Then| |xw.||Move||(||0| |- 
> Screen.Width + ||Me||.X, ||Me||.Top) ||Else| |xw.Desktop = 
> ||Max||(xw.Desktop - ||1||, ||0||)||||
> 
> End Select
> 
> Is it a bug to report or can it be expected to behave different on the 
> various desktops?
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

The X11 window manager does what it wants. It does not necessarily 
respect the protocols behind DesktopWindow.Move() and DesktopWindow.Window.

If you want a reliable X11 window manager, you can use the KDE window 
manager for example.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From admin at allunix.ru  Sun Oct 23 16:18:31 2022
From: admin at allunix.ru (Admin)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 21:18:31 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Beta testing - Photo organizer.
In-Reply-To: <304fe999-791e-8544-23e6-7b132ef91150@belmotek.net>
References: <304fe999-791e-8544-23e6-7b132ef91150@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <f2f5926c-15fc-988b-9644-241383c4ab07@allunix.ru>

I'd be happy to test this on Debian 11, thanks. I wanted to write 
basically the exact same piece of software but never had time to. So, 
yes, that will be interesting to check out, I'll report in a couple of days.

Dmitry.


21.10.2022 17:04, Martin ?????:
> Hello friends.
> I made a program to rename and move photos that are in a temporary 
> download directory. I use the libexif library with Extern to read the 
> metadata (writing metadata is not contemplated at the moment).
> I try to make it very simple and less complex than programs like Rapid 
> photo downloader.
> There is a readme.md and readme.pdf in English that (I think) explains 
> how to use it.
> Please if someone can test if it works well on your system and make a 
> review of the program it would be good for me to upload something more 
> mature to the farm.
> I'm especially interested in knowing if it works well on systems like 
> Debian, Ubuntu, Mint or OpenSuse, since I only tested it on Manjaro.
>
> There is no need to create an installation package, it runs from the IDE.
>
> Important notice: Please make a copy of the pictures before working 
> with them as this is an alpha version and may fail.
>
> https://gitlab.com/belmotek/photo-organizer
>
> Martin
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 23 16:56:07 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 15:56:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] x11.DesktopWindow.Desktop and MATE
In-Reply-To: <57c38faf-103b-5f5d-9f22-40d194d1c5d9@gambas-basic.org>
References: <CABuQYCBfX0diCsRMqvk88exDo6q9-NCyrPf1qdhQSpJK_tAjMA@mail.gmail.com>
 <57c38faf-103b-5f5d-9f22-40d194d1c5d9@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAnZ_bsk7SXatF9cQJJJXSaCvGVBXms295oNokNp8_nXw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 at 15:01, Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Le 23/10/2022 ? 15:35, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > trying to help a user with workspace switching and i discovered
> something.
> > https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?p=6182#p6182
> > <https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?p=6182#p6182>
> >
> > i found setting X11.DesktopWindow.Desktop did not work to move to
> > another workspace but using DesktopWindow.Move() did on MATE desktop.
> >
> > then i found using DesktopWindow.Move was not working on gnome or
> > cinnamon but using DesktopWindow.Desktop did !
> >
> > so i've had to use this..
> >
> > |||Dim| |xw ||As| |DesktopWindow = ||New| |DesktopWindow(||Me||.Handle)
> > |
> > |||Select| |Direction|
> > |||Case| |Move_Right|
> > |||If| |Desktop.Type = ||"MATE"| |Then| |xw.||Move||(Screen.Width +
> > ||Me||.X, ||Me||.Top) ||Else| |xw.Desktop += ||1|
> > |||Case| |Move_Left|
> > ||||If| |Desktop.Type = ||"MATE"| |Then| |xw.||Move||(||0| |-
> > Screen.Width + ||Me||.X, ||Me||.Top) ||Else| |xw.Desktop =
> > ||Max||(xw.Desktop - ||1||, ||0||)||||
> >
> > End Select
> >
> > Is it a bug to report or can it be expected to behave different on the
> > various desktops?
> >
> > Respects
> > BruceS
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> The X11 window manager does what it wants. It does not necessarily
> respect the protocols behind DesktopWindow.Move() and DesktopWindow.Window.
>
> If you want a reliable X11 window manager, you can use the KDE window
> manager for example.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>

Okay Ben no worries I figured as much :)
the above code seems to be working on mate,cinnamon,gnome and lxde (i've
not tested any others)
I'll work around things if needed.

Respects
BruceS
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 25 09:56:35 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 09:56:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web Widgest Demo
Message-ID: <1a8a68ff-16a9-0956-f043-82c3c4e19c89@libero.it>

Hi Olivier,

thanks for the very interesting project, unfortunately on the last 
master the project stops and on debug I get this: WebForm._init.117 Bad 
argument
On the terminal I get this:
$: WebAnimatedGauge. Text declared but not implemented
$: WebAnimatedGauge. Text declared but not implemented

I configured the debugger to "Use embedded HTTP server (internal)", am I 
doing something wrong?

Regards

Gianluigi

From olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr  Tue Oct 25 14:52:37 2022
From: olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr (Linus)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 08:52:37 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web Widgest Demo
In-Reply-To: <1a8a68ff-16a9-0956-f043-82c3c4e19c89@libero.it>
References: <1a8a68ff-16a9-0956-f043-82c3c4e19c89@libero.it>
Message-ID: <6B09594C-8CA9-4D18-9FEA-FF1BA9938CE6@yahoo.fr>

Hi,

Yes you're right, you need to enable in the debugger the option ?Use embedded HTTP server?.

I have changed the Class ?WebAnimatedGauge? and hope this has fixed your issue.

Try again and let me know if it?s better now.

Olivier



> Le 25 oct. 2022 ? 03:56, gian via User <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> a ?crit :
> 
> Hi Olivier,
> 
> thanks for the very interesting project, unfortunately on the last master the project stops and on debug I get this: WebForm._init.117 Bad argument
> On the terminal I get this:
> $: WebAnimatedGauge. Text declared but not implemented
> $: WebAnimatedGauge. Text declared but not implemented
> 
> I configured the debugger to "Use embedded HTTP server (internal)", am I doing something wrong?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gianluigi
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Tue Oct 25 15:25:07 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 15:25:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Packaging for AUR
Message-ID: <ba8d8f72-1fec-3f37-2c4b-987b3bcc4bc5@belmotek.net>

Hello friends.
Does anyone have experience in creating pkgbuilds for AUR[1].
I would like to put some programs in the Arch Users repository but I 
have no experience in it, so some advice on this could be useful.

When the IDE creates a package for Arch in the output directory several 
files are created, one of them is the source file of the program, for 
example gauchosketch-0.0.45-1.src.tar.gz.
I wonder if with the files inside, for example 
gauchosketch-0.0.45.tar.bz2 and PKGBUILD I could upload the program to 
AUR[1].

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_User_Repository

Martin.

From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 25 15:28:24 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 15:28:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web Widgest Demo
In-Reply-To: <6B09594C-8CA9-4D18-9FEA-FF1BA9938CE6@yahoo.fr>
References: <1a8a68ff-16a9-0956-f043-82c3c4e19c89@libero.it>
 <6B09594C-8CA9-4D18-9FEA-FF1BA9938CE6@yahoo.fr>
Message-ID: <5ca772c5-718a-fab2-8e20-ef15b65c27da@libero.it>

Il 25/10/22 14:52, Linus ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> Yes you're right, you need to enable in the debugger the option ?Use 
> embedded HTTP server?.
> 
> I have changed the Class ?WebAnimatedGauge? and hope this has fixed your 
> issue.
> 
> Try again and let me know if it?s better now.
> 
> Olivier
> 

Hi Olivier,

Ok with Firefox both work and I don't notice any differences between the 
two versions.

With the internal server even version 0.8.4 does not work.

Regards

Gianluigi

From bagoneo at libero.it  Tue Oct 25 16:04:53 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 16:04:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web Widgest Demo
In-Reply-To: <C359CC35-08D3-454D-A3B2-892BD9EBB781@yahoo.fr>
References: <1a8a68ff-16a9-0956-f043-82c3c4e19c89@libero.it>
 <6B09594C-8CA9-4D18-9FEA-FF1BA9938CE6@yahoo.fr>
 <5ca772c5-718a-fab2-8e20-ef15b65c27da@libero.it>
 <C359CC35-08D3-454D-A3B2-892BD9EBB781@yahoo.fr>
Message-ID: <2678ceb6-3d69-36df-f78b-a83d0550cd9e@libero.it>

Il 25/10/22 15:49, Linus ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> It works perfectly on my side in all cases: Internal, Firefox, Chromium
> 
> I use Fedora35 + Gambas DEV sources compiled manually
> 
> Olivier
> 
>> Le 25 oct. 2022 ? 09:28, gian via User <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> a ?crit :
>>
>> Il 25/10/22 14:52, Linus ha scritto:
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes you're right, you need to enable in the debugger the option ?Use embedded HTTP server?.
>>> I have changed the Class ?WebAnimatedGauge? and hope this has fixed your issue.
>>> Try again and let me know if it?s better now.
>>> Olivier
>>
>> Hi Olivier,
>>
>> Ok with Firefox both work and I don't notice any differences between the two versions.
>>
>> With the internal server even version 0.8.4 does not work.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Gianluigi
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Hi Olivier,

I'm sorry but it doesn't work here and gives the error I previously 
communicated to you, these are my details:
[System]
Gambas=3.17.90 cff3487 (master)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.15.0-52-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS
Desktop=UBUNTU
Font=Ubuntu,11
Scale=8
Theme=yaru
Language=it_IT.UTF-8

if you think I can do a report on the bugtracker...

Regards

Gianluigi

From olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr  Tue Oct 25 15:49:53 2022
From: olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr (Linus)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 09:49:53 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web Widgest Demo
In-Reply-To: <5ca772c5-718a-fab2-8e20-ef15b65c27da@libero.it>
References: <1a8a68ff-16a9-0956-f043-82c3c4e19c89@libero.it>
 <6B09594C-8CA9-4D18-9FEA-FF1BA9938CE6@yahoo.fr>
 <5ca772c5-718a-fab2-8e20-ef15b65c27da@libero.it>
Message-ID: <C359CC35-08D3-454D-A3B2-892BD9EBB781@yahoo.fr>

Hi,

It works perfectly on my side in all cases: Internal, Firefox, Chromium

I use Fedora35 + Gambas DEV sources compiled manually

Olivier

> Le 25 oct. 2022 ? 09:28, gian via User <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> a ?crit :
> 
> Il 25/10/22 14:52, Linus ha scritto:
>> Hi,
>> Yes you're right, you need to enable in the debugger the option ?Use embedded HTTP server?.
>> I have changed the Class ?WebAnimatedGauge? and hope this has fixed your issue.
>> Try again and let me know if it?s better now.
>> Olivier
> 
> Hi Olivier,
> 
> Ok with Firefox both work and I don't notice any differences between the two versions.
> 
> With the internal server even version 0.8.4 does not work.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gianluigi
> 
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 25 23:38:17 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 22:38:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.desktop.x11 LargeDesktop support
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCjFjjuNiWF-_oMdH6pgb3yLBci9M3XgLApQ8ASucWeAw@mail.gmail.com>

So my recent discovery was this...

using gb.desktop.x11 there are Desktop/Workspace switching features.
I found this info... @
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s02.html
Large Desktops

The window manager may offer to arrange the managed windows on a desktop
that is larger than the root window. The screen functions as a viewport on
this large desktop. Different policies regarding the positioning of the
viewport on the desktop can be implemented: The window manager may only
allow the viewport position to change in increments of the screen size
(paging) or it may allow arbitrary positions (scrolling).

To fulfill the ICCCM principle that clients should behave the same
regardless whether a window manager is running or not, window managers
which implement large desktops must interpret all client-provided
geometries with respect to the current viewport.
Implementation note

There are two options for implementing a large desktop: The first is to
keep the managed windows (or, if reparenting, their frames) as children of
the root window. Moving the viewport is achieved by moving all managed
windows in the opposite direction.

The second alternative is to reparent all managed windows to a dedicated
large window (somewhat inappropriately called a 'virtual root'). Moving the
viewport is then achieved by moving the virtual root in the opposite
direction.

Both alternatives are completely ICCCM compliant, although the second one
may be somewhat problematic for clients trying to figure out the window
manager decorations around their toplevel windows and for clients trying to
draw background images on the root window.

So from that we see there are 2 ways of implementing the desktops, one
involves multiple viewports and one is one large screen.

It seems gb.desktop.x11 is coded to handle the multiple desktops method but
not the single big screen type :(

I'm almost there with implementing this (see attached project)

the project contains a folder called X11LargeDesktop containing files that
add the following to gb.desktop.x11

X11.DesktopCount and X11.CurrentDesktop now works for large desktops.

DesktopWindow.Desktop now also works for large desktops.

X11.IsLargeDesktop True if large desktop false if multiple viewports.

X11.ViewPorts returns a list of the viewport positions if using large
desktop taking Orientation into account. Still todo: handle start corners,
currently assumes TopLeft.

X11.Supported As String[], returns a list of the supported wm commands
(from hint _NET_SUPPORTED)

X11.GetDesktopNames(DefaultName as String="Workspace") , get's the desktop
names or makes them up if not found.


>From what i have read the hint _NET_DESKTOP_LAYOUT is the key, a single
large desktop will have this set but multiple desktops will not so i have
used that as the check criteria. I also seems my MATE is the only desktop
that uses the large screen method.

Also i'm handling using multiple rows/columns as defined at
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s03.html but I
cannot test it as my desktop does not do it.

(have not handled start corners yet)


tested on LinuxMint, desktops  MATE/Plasma/Cinnamon/Gnome

other than my Mint/MATE the class uses the original X11 routines that we
know works for multiple viewport desktops.

Dunno if you want to rip this code Ben (or laugh at my awful implementation
and do it properly yourself ;) lol )  gb.desktop.x11 is lacking this "other
method" so here's a little work on the matter :)

Wishing well

BruceS
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Tue Oct 25 23:44:18 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:44:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.desktop.x11 LargeDesktop support
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCjFjjuNiWF-_oMdH6pgb3yLBci9M3XgLApQ8ASucWeAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCjFjjuNiWF-_oMdH6pgb3yLBci9M3XgLApQ8ASucWeAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c6ceeb47-3a8d-1090-ae3a-0faa1f99fa42@gambas-basic.org>

Le 25/10/2022 ? 23:38, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> So my recent discovery was this...
> 
> using gb.desktop.x11 there are Desktop/Workspace switching features.
> I found this info... @ 
> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s02.html 
> <https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s02.html>
> 
> 
>       Large Desktops
> 
> The window manager may offer to arrange the managed windows on a desktop 
> that is larger than the root window. The screen functions as a viewport 
> on this large desktop. Different policies regarding the positioning of 
> the viewport on the desktop can be implemented: The window manager may 
> only allow the viewport position to change in increments of the screen 
> size (paging) or it may allow arbitrary positions (scrolling).
> 
> To fulfill the ICCCM principle that clients should behave the same 
> regardless whether a window manager is running or not, window managers 
> which implement large desktops must interpret all client-provided 
> geometries with respect to the current viewport.
> 
> 
>         Implementation note
> 
> There are two options for implementing a large desktop: The first is to 
> keep the managed windows (or, if reparenting, their frames) as children 
> of the root window. Moving the viewport is achieved by moving all 
> managed windows in the opposite direction.
> 
> The second alternative is to reparent all managed windows to a dedicated 
> large window (somewhat inappropriately called a 'virtual root'). Moving 
> the viewport is then achieved by moving the virtual root in the opposite 
> direction.
> 
> Both alternatives are completely ICCCM compliant, although the second 
> one may be somewhat problematic for clients trying to figure out the 
> window manager decorations around their toplevel windows and for clients 
> trying to draw background images on the root window.
> 
> So from that we see there are 2 ways of implementing the desktops, one 
> involves multiple viewports and one is one large screen.
> 
> It seems gb.desktop.x11 is coded to handle the multiple desktops method 
> but not the single big screen type :(
> 
> I'm almost there with implementing this (see attached project)
> 
> the project contains a folder called X11LargeDesktop containing files 
> that add the following to gb.desktop.x11
> 
> X11.DesktopCount and X11.CurrentDesktop now works for large desktops.
> 
> DesktopWindow.Desktop now also works for large desktops.
> 
> X11.IsLargeDesktop True if large desktop false if multiple viewports.
> 
> X11.ViewPorts returns a list of the viewport positions if using large 
> desktop taking Orientation into account. Still todo: handle start 
> corners, currently assumes TopLeft.
> 
> X11.Supported As String[], returns a list of the supported wm commands 
> (from hint _NET_SUPPORTED)
> 
> X11.GetDesktopNames(DefaultName as String="Workspace") , get's the 
> desktop names or makes them up if not found.
> 
> 
>  From what i have read the hint _NET_DESKTOP_LAYOUT is the key, a single 
> large desktop will have this set but multiple desktops will not so i 
> have used that as the check criteria. I also seems my MATE is the only 
> desktop that uses the large screen method.
> 
> Also i'm handling using multiple rows/columns as defined at 
> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s03.html 
> <https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s03.html> but I 
> cannot test it as my desktop does not do it.
> 
> (have not handled start corners yet)
> 
> 
> tested on LinuxMint, desktops? MATE/Plasma/Cinnamon/Gnome
> 
> other than my Mint/MATE the class uses the original X11 routines that we 
> know works for multiple viewport desktops.
> 
> Dunno if you want to rip this code Ben (or laugh at my awful 
> implementation and do it properly yourself ;) lol )? gb.desktop.x11 is 
> lacking this "other method" so here's a little work on the matter :)
> 
> Wishing well
> 
> BruceS
> 

I will look at it.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 26 00:18:47 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:18:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.desktop.x11 LargeDesktop support
In-Reply-To: <c6ceeb47-3a8d-1090-ae3a-0faa1f99fa42@gambas-basic.org>
References: <CABuQYCCjFjjuNiWF-_oMdH6pgb3yLBci9M3XgLApQ8ASucWeAw@mail.gmail.com>
 <c6ceeb47-3a8d-1090-ae3a-0faa1f99fa42@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBNLJBRXVw29HwWQSnjYBLMZs=77uRp-wN+yhQd4XP-Bw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 at 22:45, Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Le 25/10/2022 ? 23:38, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > So my recent discovery was this...
> >
> > using gb.desktop.x11 there are Desktop/Workspace switching features.
> > I found this info... @
> > https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s02.html
> > <https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s02.html>
> >
> >
> >       Large Desktops
> >
> > The window manager may offer to arrange the managed windows on a desktop
> > that is larger than the root window. The screen functions as a viewport
> > on this large desktop. Different policies regarding the positioning of
> > the viewport on the desktop can be implemented: The window manager may
> > only allow the viewport position to change in increments of the screen
> > size (paging) or it may allow arbitrary positions (scrolling).
> >
> > To fulfill the ICCCM principle that clients should behave the same
> > regardless whether a window manager is running or not, window managers
> > which implement large desktops must interpret all client-provided
> > geometries with respect to the current viewport.
> >
> >
> >         Implementation note
> >
> > There are two options for implementing a large desktop: The first is to
> > keep the managed windows (or, if reparenting, their frames) as children
> > of the root window. Moving the viewport is achieved by moving all
> > managed windows in the opposite direction.
> >
> > The second alternative is to reparent all managed windows to a dedicated
> > large window (somewhat inappropriately called a 'virtual root'). Moving
> > the viewport is then achieved by moving the virtual root in the opposite
> > direction.
> >
> > Both alternatives are completely ICCCM compliant, although the second
> > one may be somewhat problematic for clients trying to figure out the
> > window manager decorations around their toplevel windows and for clients
> > trying to draw background images on the root window.
> >
> > So from that we see there are 2 ways of implementing the desktops, one
> > involves multiple viewports and one is one large screen.
> >
> > It seems gb.desktop.x11 is coded to handle the multiple desktops method
> > but not the single big screen type :(
> >
> > I'm almost there with implementing this (see attached project)
> >
> > the project contains a folder called X11LargeDesktop containing files
> > that add the following to gb.desktop.x11
> >
> > X11.DesktopCount and X11.CurrentDesktop now works for large desktops.
> >
> > DesktopWindow.Desktop now also works for large desktops.
> >
> > X11.IsLargeDesktop True if large desktop false if multiple viewports.
> >
> > X11.ViewPorts returns a list of the viewport positions if using large
> > desktop taking Orientation into account. Still todo: handle start
> > corners, currently assumes TopLeft.
> >
> > X11.Supported As String[], returns a list of the supported wm commands
> > (from hint _NET_SUPPORTED)
> >
> > X11.GetDesktopNames(DefaultName as String="Workspace") , get's the
> > desktop names or makes them up if not found.
> >
> >
> >  From what i have read the hint _NET_DESKTOP_LAYOUT is the key, a single
> > large desktop will have this set but multiple desktops will not so i
> > have used that as the check criteria. I also seems my MATE is the only
> > desktop that uses the large screen method.
> >
> > Also i'm handling using multiple rows/columns as defined at
> > https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s03.html
> > <https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s03.html> but I
> > cannot test it as my desktop does not do it.
> >
> > (have not handled start corners yet)
> >
> >
> > tested on LinuxMint, desktops  MATE/Plasma/Cinnamon/Gnome
> >
> > other than my Mint/MATE the class uses the original X11 routines that we
> > know works for multiple viewport desktops.
> >
> > Dunno if you want to rip this code Ben (or laugh at my awful
> > implementation and do it properly yourself ;) lol )  gb.desktop.x11 is
> > lacking this "other method" so here's a little work on the matter :)
> >
> > Wishing well
> >
> > BruceS
> >
>
> I will look at it.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>

Cheers Ben.
i found a bug and a glitch when changing X11.DesktopCount
i forgot to update the ViewPort array and then had to put a Wait 0.1 after
sending the message to update new Count geometry as it would update the
array too fast.
Seems pretty stable now.
I'll be testing the merde out of it for a few days anyway to see if i can
find any other glitches.

Respects
BruceS
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From angelnunez123 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 26 06:40:28 2022
From: angelnunez123 at gmail.com (Angel)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 06:40:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
Message-ID: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>

Hi.

I have observed two errors in the gb.report2 component.

1? when trying to put a value in the textbox Range in preview I always 
get the error: unknown 'MoveFirst' symbol in the 'DocumentView' class.

2? In gtk3 the zoom bar is not visible, in gtk2 and qt5 it is visible.

A consultation, it is possible that in a column of a report when the 
value of the field does not take in the width of the Labelreport control 
grow down on another line, if the autoresize property is True all 
columns are distrusted.

What is the difference between reportLabel and reportTextLabel, the 
documentation is very scarce of gb.report2 and in the farm I see two or 
three very simple examples.

My system

[System]
Gambas=3.17.3
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.10.0-18-amd64
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=debian 11.5
Desktop=MATE
Font=Serif,11
Scale=8
Theme=traditionalgreen
Language=es_ES.UTF-8
Memory=15980M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.7.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.15
GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.33
GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.20
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1804.0
GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.33
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.20
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.102.0.0
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.15.2
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6

[Environment]
CLUTTER_BACKEND=x11
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
DESKTOP_SESSION=mate
DISPLAY=:0
GB_GUI=gb.gtk3
GDMSESSION=mate
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=1874659
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge:canberra-gtk-module
GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
HOME=<home>
LANG=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_ALL=es_ES.UTF-8
LOGNAME=<user>
MATE_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
PWD=<home>
QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0
QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1
SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/5528,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/5528
SHELL=/bin/bash
SSH_AGENT_PID=5576
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
TZ=:/etc/localtime
USER=<user>
XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=MATE
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/mate:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/
XDG_GREETER_DATA_DIR=/var/lib/lightdm/data/<user>
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=mate
XDG_SESSION_ID=2
XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
XDG_VTNR=7
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Wed Oct 26 10:04:59 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 10:04:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
In-Reply-To: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
References: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6589b3d1-08d3-d53e-d803-9d35e7ce8075@libero.it>

Il 26/10/22 06:40, Angel ha scritto:
> Hi.
> 
> I have observed two errors in the gb.report2 component.
> 

I confirm the malfunctions you described.
To communicate them correctly read here (it is better to use the 
bugtracker):
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/report
If you wish to study less elementary code download the source code, the 
component is written in Gambas by Fabien Bodard:
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas

Regards
Gianluigi

From hans at gambas-buch.de  Wed Oct 26 14:49:13 2022
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:49:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] (Gambas-)Variables in WebPages
Message-ID: <08edf132-f256-3aa9-4abc-e699b0da418b@gambas-buch.de>

Hello,

I have a question today about working with WebPage class:

I would now like to outsource the navigation to a separate WebPage 
IncNavigation.webpage. Its content should replace the source text 
<nav>...</nav> marked in red.

Question:
Is there any way to use the variables declared in Main.webpage 
(sCurSite, aSiteList) also in the WebPage IncNavigation.webpage?

With kind regards

Hans

--------------------------------------------------

<!-- Variable declaration must come before any HTML -->
<%
 ? Dim i As Integer
 ? Dim sCurSite, sNavItem, sLink As String
 ? Dim aSiteList As New String[]

 ? System.Language = Request.Language

' Insert a list to filter the pages
 ? aSiteList = ["Home", "Environment", "DBReport", "Multimedia", 
"Formular", "DPreise", "Random", "FPlotter", "Impressum"]

 ? If Request.Query Then
 ???? If aSiteList.Exist(Request.Query) Then
 ??????? sCurSite = Request.Query
 ???? Endif
 ? Else
 ???? sCurSite = "Home"
 ? Endif
%>
<!doctype html>
<html lang="de">
 ? <!-- BEGIN SITE-HEAD 
------------------------------------------------------- -->
 ? <<IncHeadP1>>
 ??? <title><%= sCurSite %></title>
 ? <<IncHeadP2>>
 ? <!-- END SITE-HEAD 
--------------------------------------------------------- -->
 ? <body onload="startTime()">
 ??? <<IncHeader slogan="Webseiten mit Gambas-Webpage erzeugen">>
 ??? <br>
 ??? <!-- BEGIN SITE-NAVIGATION 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
-->
 ??? <nav class="site-nav">
 ????? <!-- Umschaltung mit dem Toogle-Button zwischen horizontalem und 
vertikalem Men? bei SCREEN < 600px -->
 ????? <!-- Switching with the Toogle button between horizontal and 
vertical menu at SCREEN < 600px -->
 ????? <button class="menubutton" 
onclick="this.classList.toggle('showmenu')">Men?</button>
 ????? <ul>
 ??????? <%
 ????????? For i = 0 To aSiteList.Max
 ??????????? If aSiteList[i] = sCurSite Then
 ?????????????? sLink = Application.Root & "?" & sCurSite
 ?????????????? sNavItem = "<li class=" & Chr(34) & "site-current" & 
Chr(34) & "><a href=" & Chr(34) & sLink & Chr(34) & ">" & sCurSite & 
"</a></li>"
 ?????????????? Print sNavItem
 ??????????? Else
 ?????????????? sLink = Application.Root & "?" & aSiteList[i]
 ?????????????? sNavItem = "<li><a href=" & Chr(34) & sLink & Chr(34) & 
">" & aSiteList[i] & "</a></li>"
 ?????????????? Print sNavItem
 ??????????? Endif
 ????????? Next
 ??????? %>
 ????? </ul>
 ??? </nav>
 ??? <!-- END SITE-NAVIGATION 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
-->
 ??? <main>
 ??? <br>
 ??? <!-- BEGIN CONTENT -->
 ????? <% Select Case Request.Query
 ??????????? Case "Environment" %>
 ?????????? <<IncEnvironment>>
 ???????? <% Case "DBReport" %>
 ?????????? <<IncDBReport>>
 ???????? ...
 ?????????? <<IncImpressum>>
 ???????? <% Default %>
 ?????????? <<IncHome>>
 ????? <% End Select %>
 ??? <!-- END CONTENT -->
 ??? </main>
 ??? <<IncFooter>>
 ? </body>
</html>
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From hans at gambas-buch.de  Wed Oct 26 19:51:12 2022
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 19:51:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] (Gambas-)Variables in WebPages
In-Reply-To: <08edf132-f256-3aa9-4abc-e699b0da418b@gambas-buch.de>
References: <08edf132-f256-3aa9-4abc-e699b0da418b@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <661ff043-b735-14f3-70d3-42ab282d1485@gambas-buch.de>

Hello,

the solution is to define a variable in the Main.class and initialise it 
with the intended values:

' Gambas class file
 ? Public SiteList As String[] = ["Home", "Environment", "DBReport", 
"Multimedia", "Form", ... , "FPlotter", "Imprint"]

In another webpage - here IncNavigation.webpage - you can then use

 ? aSiteList = Main.SiteList

and use the values of the array aSiteList in the navigation:

<%
 ? Dim aSiteList As New String[]
 ? Dim sCurSite, sLink, sNavItem As String
 ? Dim i As Integer

aSiteList = Main.SiteList

 ? If Request.Query Then
 ???? If aSiteList.Exist(Request.Query) Then
 ??????? sCurSite = Request.Query
 ???? Endif
 ? Else
 ???? sCurSite = aSiteList[0]
 ? Endif
%>
<nav class="site-nav">
 ? <!-- Umschaltung mit dem Toogle-Button zwischen horizontalem und 
vertikalem Men? bei SCREEN < 600px -->
 ? <!-- Switching with the Toogle button between horizontal and vertical 
menu at SCREEN < 600px -->
 ? <button class="menubutton" 
onclick="this.classList.toggle('showmenu')">Men?</button>
 ? <ul>
 ??? <%
 ????? For i = 0 To aSiteList.Max
 ??????? If aSiteList[i] = sCurSite Then
 ?????????? sLink = Application.Root & "?" & sCurSite
 ?????????? sNavItem = "<li class=" & Chr(34) & "site-current" & Chr(34) 
& "><a href=" & Chr(34) & sLink & Chr(34) & ">" & sCurSite & "</a></li>"
 ?????????? Print sNavItem
 ??????? Else
 ?????????? sLink = Application.Root & "?" & aSiteList[i]
 ?????????? sNavItem = "<li><a href=" & Chr(34) & sLink & Chr(34) & ">" 
& aSiteList[i] & "</a></li>"
 ?????????? Print sNavItem
 ??????? Endif
 ????? Next
 ??? %>
 ? </ul>
</nav>

Regards,

Hans
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Oct 27 03:51:27 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 21:51:27 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] (Gambas-)Variables in WebPages
In-Reply-To: <661ff043-b735-14f3-70d3-42ab282d1485@gambas-buch.de>
References: <08edf132-f256-3aa9-4abc-e699b0da418b@gambas-buch.de>
 <661ff043-b735-14f3-70d3-42ab282d1485@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <144ea42b-cb88-bec6-735f-d77d31e0cc6b@gmail.com>

On 10/26/22 13:51, Hans Lehmann wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> the solution is to define a variable in the Main.class and initialise it with the intended values:
> 
> ' Gambas class file
>  ? Public SiteList As String[] = ["Home", "Environment", "DBReport", "Multimedia", "Form", ... , "FPlotter", "Imprint"]
> 
> In another webpage - here IncNavigation.webpage - you can then use
> 
>  ? aSiteList = Main.SiteList
> 
> and use the values of the array aSiteList in the navigation:

Good work, Hans. That is a nice, simple solution that you worked out.


-- 
Lee


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 27 20:19:08 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 19:19:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.desktop.x11 LargeDesktop support
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBNLJBRXVw29HwWQSnjYBLMZs=77uRp-wN+yhQd4XP-Bw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCjFjjuNiWF-_oMdH6pgb3yLBci9M3XgLApQ8ASucWeAw@mail.gmail.com>
 <c6ceeb47-3a8d-1090-ae3a-0faa1f99fa42@gambas-basic.org>
 <CABuQYCBNLJBRXVw29HwWQSnjYBLMZs=77uRp-wN+yhQd4XP-Bw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBNTpvdu_0ECVP36b=h=Am51xpVoBmR=90gTh7ckauNwA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 at 23:18, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> >  From what i have read the hint _NET_DESKTOP_LAYOUT is the key, a single
>> > large desktop will have this set but multiple desktops will not so i
>> > have used that as the check criteria. I also seems my MATE is the only
>> > desktop that uses the large screen method.
>> >
>
>
Forget that.
just checking for layout hint does not work as some WMs use multiple
desktops but also use the layout hint :-\

Respects
BruceS
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Fri Oct 28 00:15:44 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 00:15:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] EDITOR environment variable
Message-ID: <532e1ea9-520d-800b-b747-c86b0337c6e4@libero.it>

Hi Benoit,

it happened to me on Mint 21 Cinnamon and Gambas 3.17.3, to another user 
on Ubuntu 22.10 and Gambas 3.17.90, that when starting the first project 
this warning appeared:

"Please set the $EDITOR environment variable with your favorite 
graphical text editor. Some version control commands need it."

I saw that the warning comes from the VersionControl module, which first 
checks whether one of these text editors is installed on the system: 
kwrite, mousepad, leafpad, puma, gedit and emacs or the environment 
variable.

We solved it with this terminal command:
sudo nano /etc/environment
by adding the line to the file:
EDITOR="xed" for Mint and EDITOR="gnome-text-editor" for Ubuntu.
Saved and restarted.

Alternatively, one can also install gedit or something else to one's liking.

However, I found out that a user of Mint 20.01 and Gambas 3.17.3, who 
did not set the environment variable and did not install any of the 
required editors, never got the warning and Gambas works fine.

Can you kindly explain why the project was not working for me?

I thank you very much

Greetings and good night :-)

Gianluigi

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 04:03:03 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 22:03:03 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] EDITOR environment variable
In-Reply-To: <532e1ea9-520d-800b-b747-c86b0337c6e4@libero.it>
References: <532e1ea9-520d-800b-b747-c86b0337c6e4@libero.it>
Message-ID: <0e58a7a2-e9b1-abf5-da63-ca31a5a35dc5@gmail.com>

On 10/27/22 18:15, gian via User wrote:
> However, I found out that a user of Mint 20.01 and Gambas 3.17.3, who did not set the environment variable and did not install 
> any of the required?editors,?never?got?the?warning?and?Gambas?works?fine.

Same here with v3.17.3 on openSUSE Leap 15.3, and also with $EDITOR not set. (Version control seems to work just fine.)


-- 
Lee


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Fri Oct 28 11:29:48 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 11:29:48 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
In-Reply-To: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
References: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <de894458-603c-94ff-5c93-45d102196b90@gambas-basic.org>

Le 26/10/2022 ? 06:40, Angel a ?crit?:
> Hi.
> 
> I have observed two errors in the gb.report2 component.
> 
> 1? when trying to put a value in the textbox Range in preview I always 
> get the error: unknown 'MoveFirst' symbol in the 'DocumentView' class.
> 

The bug has been fixed in master on september.

> 2? In gtk3 the zoom bar is not visible, in gtk2 and qt5 it is visible.
> 

I will check, it's a problem with the GTK+3 slider.

> A consultation, it is possible that in a column of a report when the 
> value of the field does not take in the width of the Labelreport control 
> grow down on another line, if the autoresize property is True all 
> columns are distrusted.
> 
> What is the difference between reportLabel and reportTextLabel, the 
> documentation is very scarce of gb.report2 and in the farm I see two or 
> three very simple examples.

I don't understand all your english, but I think only Fabien can answer 
these questions correctly. I guess ReportLabel is just for a simple 
text, and ReportTextLabel for rich text (HTML-like).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 11:52:46 2022
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 11:52:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
In-Reply-To: <de894458-603c-94ff-5c93-45d102196b90@gambas-basic.org>
References: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
 <de894458-603c-94ff-5c93-45d102196b90@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL6RrnYHdW9G1JiYNm-44xT=i1SLD33JrCJ+mRZPLDz1+A@mail.gmail.com>

Le ven. 28 oct. 2022 ? 11:30, Benoit Minisini <
benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org> a ?crit :

> Le 26/10/2022 ? 06:40, Angel a ?crit :
> > Hi.
> >
> > I have observed two errors in the gb.report2 component.
> >
> > 1? when trying to put a value in the textbox Range in preview I always
> > get the error: unknown 'MoveFirst' symbol in the 'DocumentView' class.
> >
>
> The bug has been fixed in master on september.
>
> > 2? In gtk3 the zoom bar is not visible, in gtk2 and qt5 it is visible.
> >
>
> I will check, it's a problem with the GTK+3 slider.
>
> > A consultation, it is possible that in a column of a report when the
> > value of the field does not take in the width of the Labelreport control
> > grow down on another line, if the autoresize property is True all
> > columns are distrusted.
> >


Non.. It's not a commun.. or maybe yes if you arrange it by column.. but it
d?pend how you fill it.. and if the Size Is more than one page.

There is still not widget with grid view capabilities. And this need a
double computing if you expand it on multiple pages.


> > What is the difference between reportLabel and reportTextLabel,


Hum the Size computing but it is not finished by lack of Time.




the
> > documentation is very scarce of gb.report2 and in the farm I see two or
> > three very simple examples.
>
> I don't understand all your english, but I think only Fabien can answer
> these questions correctly. I guess ReportLabel is just for a simple
> text, and ReportTextLabel for rich text (HTML-like).
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Fri Oct 28 12:08:12 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 12:08:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
In-Reply-To: <de894458-603c-94ff-5c93-45d102196b90@gambas-basic.org>
References: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
 <de894458-603c-94ff-5c93-45d102196b90@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <6fa07f58-e377-71dc-a3e3-2221a01073d2@libero.it>

Il 28/10/22 11:29, Benoit Minisini ha scritto:

>> What is the difference between reportLabel and reportTextLabel, the 
>> documentation is very scarce of gb.report2 and in the farm I see two 
>> or three very simple examples.
> 
> I don't understand all your english, but I think only Fabien can answer 
> these questions correctly. I guess ReportLabel is just for a simple 
> text, and ReportTextLabel for rich text (HTML-like).

As I understand it, the answer should be in the example I uploaded on 
the farm under the name LoremReport.

Angel however criticized the examples as being too simple, perhaps one 
needs to understand before criticizing.

 > The bug has been fixed in master on september.

Perhaps the correction is not complete, here the example opens like this 
(see image), without the scroll bar.
Scrolling with the mouse wheel works and if you click on zoom the bar 
appears.

Regards

Gianluigi

From bagoneo at libero.it  Fri Oct 28 12:13:25 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 12:13:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL6RrnYHdW9G1JiYNm-44xT=i1SLD33JrCJ+mRZPLDz1+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
 <de894458-603c-94ff-5c93-45d102196b90@gambas-basic.org>
 <CAFkCsL6RrnYHdW9G1JiYNm-44xT=i1SLD33JrCJ+mRZPLDz1+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <80c6ec1c-a4b8-bc63-a88e-e884317019dc@libero.it>

Il 28/10/22 11:52, Fabien Bodard ha scritto:
> Non.. It's not a commun.. or maybe yes if you arrange it by column.. but 
> it d?pend how you fill it.. and if the Size Is more than one page.
> 
> There is still not widget with grid view capabilities. And this need a 
> double computing if you expand it on multiple pages.
> 

I understood something else :-D

However gb.report2 the contents of a table shows it flawlessly ?

Regards

Gianluigi

From bagoneo at libero.it  Fri Oct 28 12:15:59 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 12:15:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
In-Reply-To: <6fa07f58-e377-71dc-a3e3-2221a01073d2@libero.it>
References: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
 <de894458-603c-94ff-5c93-45d102196b90@gambas-basic.org>
 <6fa07f58-e377-71dc-a3e3-2221a01073d2@libero.it>
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Fri Oct 28 12:21:04 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 12:21:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
In-Reply-To: <6fa07f58-e377-71dc-a3e3-2221a01073d2@libero.it>
References: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <438d3c93-b40f-88c7-57c8-9800242247b8@gambas-basic.org>

Le 28/10/2022 ? 12:08, gian via User a ?crit?:
> 
>  > The bug has been fixed in master on september.
> 
> Perhaps the correction is not complete, here the example opens like this 
> (see image), without the scroll bar.
> Scrolling with the mouse wheel works and if you click on zoom the bar 
> appears.

Which image?

The bug I talked about is the error message about the "MoveFirst" 
method, not the problem with the scroll bar (I thought it was the slider).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Fri Oct 28 12:24:41 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 12:24:41 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
In-Reply-To: <1b2b367e-fafe-4505-068a-8945f0e306b0@libero.it>
References: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
 <de894458-603c-94ff-5c93-45d102196b90@gambas-basic.org>
 <6fa07f58-e377-71dc-a3e3-2221a01073d2@libero.it>
 <1b2b367e-fafe-4505-068a-8945f0e306b0@libero.it>
Message-ID: <632f248a-3935-8ce0-edf6-a9c62d88e7b0@gambas-basic.org>

Le 28/10/2022 ? 12:15, gian via User a ?crit?:
> sorry the attachment
> 

You are in single page viewing mode, so it's normal that you don't see 
any scrollbar. The page fits the viewport.

Regard,s

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From bagoneo at libero.it  Fri Oct 28 13:18:27 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 13:18:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
In-Reply-To: <632f248a-3935-8ce0-edf6-a9c62d88e7b0@gambas-basic.org>
References: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
 <de894458-603c-94ff-5c93-45d102196b90@gambas-basic.org>
 <6fa07f58-e377-71dc-a3e3-2221a01073d2@libero.it>
 <1b2b367e-fafe-4505-068a-8945f0e306b0@libero.it>
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Message-ID: <fb591d8e-6a83-b58a-cd65-78a74cf4b525@libero.it>

Il 28/10/22 12:24, Benoit Minisini ha scritto:
> Le 28/10/2022 ? 12:15, gian via User a ?crit?:
>> sorry the attachment
>>
> 
> You are in single page viewing mode, so it's normal that you don't see 
> any scrollbar. The page fits the viewport.
> 
> Regard,s
> 

Hi Benoit,

now it is clear to me, thank you very much

Regards

Gianluigi

From bagoneo at libero.it  Fri Oct 28 13:47:37 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 13:47:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
In-Reply-To: <de894458-603c-94ff-5c93-45d102196b90@gambas-basic.org>
References: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
 <de894458-603c-94ff-5c93-45d102196b90@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <fdb1579a-2438-81ea-d951-953d98095d27@libero.it>

Il 28/10/22 11:29, Benoit Minisini ha scritto:
> I don't understand all your english, but I think only Fabien can answer 
> these questions correctly. I guess ReportLabel is just for a simple 
> text, and ReportTextLabel for rich text (HTML-like).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini.


Hi Benoit,

I think I figured out what happened: if you try the LoremReport (or 
ReportTest) project on a virtual without having a printer installed and 
type a number in TextBox Page you get the error in the image

Regards

Gianluigi
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Fri Oct 28 14:00:09 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 14:00:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error in gb.report2
In-Reply-To: <fdb1579a-2438-81ea-d951-953d98095d27@libero.it>
References: <5f4f2bd7-22ea-4c68-9118-be413cd14957@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <70982f2f-0246-05af-afaa-20e08557ff72@libero.it>

Il 28/10/22 13:47, gian via User ha scritto:
> Il 28/10/22 11:29, Benoit Minisini ha scritto:
>> I don't understand all your english, but I think only Fabien can 
>> answer these questions correctly. I guess ReportLabel is just for a 
>> simple text, and ReportTextLabel for rich text (HTML-like).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -- 
>> Beno?t Minisini.
> 
> 
> Hi Benoit,
> 
> I think I figured out what happened: if you try the LoremReport (or 
> ReportTest) project on a virtual without having a printer installed and 
> type a number in TextBox Page you get the error in the image
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gianluigi

I posted the wrong image :-(


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From bagoneo at libero.it  Fri Oct 28 15:21:50 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 15:21:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] EDITOR environment variable
In-Reply-To: <0e58a7a2-e9b1-abf5-da63-ca31a5a35dc5@gmail.com>
References: <532e1ea9-520d-800b-b747-c86b0337c6e4@libero.it>
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Message-ID: <db9a519f-8515-896b-760f-68aa744817c4@libero.it>

Il 28/10/22 04:03, T Lee Davidson ha scritto:
> On 10/27/22 18:15, gian via User wrote:
>> However, I found out that a user of Mint 20.01 and Gambas 3.17.3, who 
>> did not set the environment variable and did not install any of the 
>> required?editors,?never?got?the?warning?and?Gambas?works?fine.
> 
> Same here with v3.17.3 on openSUSE Leap 15.3, and also with $EDITOR not 
> set. (Version control seems to work just fine.)
> 
> 

Hi Lee,

I noticed that it happens only if you compile, if you install from 
repository (in Ubuntu PPA) even if you don't have those text editors or 
environment variable installed nothing is asked.

Regards

Gianluigi

From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Fri Oct 28 15:28:33 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 15:28:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] EDITOR environment variable
In-Reply-To: <db9a519f-8515-896b-760f-68aa744817c4@libero.it>
References: <532e1ea9-520d-800b-b747-c86b0337c6e4@libero.it>
 <0e58a7a2-e9b1-abf5-da63-ca31a5a35dc5@gmail.com>
 <db9a519f-8515-896b-760f-68aa744817c4@libero.it>
Message-ID: <b3798e67-7ebe-c893-71bd-fcdadb904f1d@gambas-basic.org>

Le 28/10/2022 ? 15:21, gian via User a ?crit?:
> Il 28/10/22 04:03, T Lee Davidson ha scritto:
>> On 10/27/22 18:15, gian via User wrote:
>>> However, I found out that a user of Mint 20.01 and Gambas 3.17.3, who 
>>> did not set the environment variable and did not install any of the 
>>> required?editors,?never?got?the?warning?and?Gambas?works?fine.
>>
>> Same here with v3.17.3 on openSUSE Leap 15.3, and also with $EDITOR 
>> not set. (Version control seems to work just fine.)
>>
>>
> 
> Hi Lee,
> 
> I noticed that it happens only if you compile, if you install from 
> repository (in Ubuntu PPA) even if you don't have those text editors or 
> environment variable installed nothing is asked.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gianluigi
> 

The $EDITOR environment variable is used only when the IDE run specific 
git / svn commands that requires it.

Maybe I should find a way to workaround this requirement...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From bagoneo at libero.it  Fri Oct 28 15:47:22 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 15:47:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] EDITOR environment variable
In-Reply-To: <b3798e67-7ebe-c893-71bd-fcdadb904f1d@gambas-basic.org>
References: <532e1ea9-520d-800b-b747-c86b0337c6e4@libero.it>
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Il 28/10/22 15:28, Benoit Minisini ha scritto:
> Le 28/10/2022 ? 15:21, gian via User a ?crit?:
>> Il 28/10/22 04:03, T Lee Davidson ha scritto:
>>> On 10/27/22 18:15, gian via User wrote:
>>>> However, I found out that a user of Mint 20.01 and Gambas 3.17.3, 
>>>> who did not set the environment variable and did not install any of 
>>>> the required?editors,?never?got?the?warning?and?Gambas?works?fine.
>>>
>>> Same here with v3.17.3 on openSUSE Leap 15.3, and also with $EDITOR 
>>> not set. (Version control seems to work just fine.)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Lee,
>>
>> I noticed that it happens only if you compile, if you install from 
>> repository (in Ubuntu PPA) even if you don't have those text editors 
>> or environment variable installed nothing is asked.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Gianluigi
>>
> 
> The $EDITOR environment variable is used only when the IDE run specific 
> git / svn commands that requires it.
> 
> Maybe I should find a way to workaround this requirement...
> 


Hi Benoit,

I am trying to reproduce the problem I had.
I don't want to confuse an error on my part with this seemingly 
innocuous warning

Regards

Gianluigi

From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Fri Oct 28 16:45:03 2022
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 10:45:03 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] EDITOR environment variable
In-Reply-To: <b3798e67-7ebe-c893-71bd-fcdadb904f1d@gambas-basic.org>
References: <532e1ea9-520d-800b-b747-c86b0337c6e4@libero.it>
 <0e58a7a2-e9b1-abf5-da63-ca31a5a35dc5@gmail.com>
 <db9a519f-8515-896b-760f-68aa744817c4@libero.it>
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Message-ID: <b9811eafab3a2bce57d223a9bd90e3fa@cenpalab.cu>

On 2022-10-28 09:28, Benoit Minisini wrote:
> Le 28/10/2022 ? 15:21, gian via User a ?crit?:
>> Il 28/10/22 04:03, T Lee Davidson ha scritto:
>>> On 10/27/22 18:15, gian via User wrote:
>>>> However, I found out that a user of Mint 20.01 and Gambas 3.17.3, 
>>>> who did not set the environment variable and did not install any of 
>>>> the required?editors,?never?got?the?warning?and?Gambas?works?fine.
>>> 
>>> Same here with v3.17.3 on openSUSE Leap 15.3, and also with $EDITOR 
>>> not set. (Version control seems to work just fine.)
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Lee,
>> 
>> I noticed that it happens only if you compile, if you install from 
>> repository (in Ubuntu PPA) even if you don't have those text editors 
>> or environment variable installed nothing is asked.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Gianluigi
>> 
> 
> The $EDITOR environment variable is used only when the IDE run
> specific git / svn commands that requires it.
> 
> Maybe I should find a way to workaround this requirement...


IIRC from my VectorLinux days, we set $EDITOR by default (can't remember 
if system-wide or in /etc/skel) so I figured at least the most common 
distros did the same, but it turns out Mint does not (at least in 21.0). 
Mint does, however, use an "editor" symlink using the "alternatives" 
system, which I assume Ubuntu and maybe Debian also do.

joe1962 at mint-pc:~$ which editor
/usr/bin/editor
joe1962 at mint-pc:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/editor
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Aug  9 11:26 /usr/bin/editor -> 
/etc/alternatives/editor
joe1962 at mint-pc:~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/editor
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Aug  9 11:26 /etc/alternatives/editor -> 
/bin/nano

Don't know if that helps any (if other distros do it or not), but there 
it is...

Regards,
Joe1962


From bagoneo at libero.it  Fri Oct 28 23:17:08 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 23:17:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] EDITOR environment variable
In-Reply-To: <b3798e67-7ebe-c893-71bd-fcdadb904f1d@gambas-basic.org>
References: <532e1ea9-520d-800b-b747-c86b0337c6e4@libero.it>
 <0e58a7a2-e9b1-abf5-da63-ca31a5a35dc5@gmail.com>
 <db9a519f-8515-896b-760f-68aa744817c4@libero.it>
 <b3798e67-7ebe-c893-71bd-fcdadb904f1d@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <62024b60-a0c3-8302-db56-ee0cea918d08@libero.it>

Il 28/10/22 15:28, Benoit Minisini ha scritto:
> The $EDITOR environment variable is used only when the IDE run specific 
> git / svn commands that requires it.
> 
> Maybe I should find a way to workaround this requirement...
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini.

Hi Benoit,

OK, stable Gambas (compiled on Mint 21) no longer asks to set an 
environment variable, no more problems, everything works fine.

Although I didn't understand how you did it.... Thank you very much

Regards

Gianluigi

From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Sat Oct 29 14:16:11 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 14:16:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] EDITOR environment variable
In-Reply-To: <62024b60-a0c3-8302-db56-ee0cea918d08@libero.it>
References: <532e1ea9-520d-800b-b747-c86b0337c6e4@libero.it>
 <0e58a7a2-e9b1-abf5-da63-ca31a5a35dc5@gmail.com>
 <db9a519f-8515-896b-760f-68aa744817c4@libero.it>
 <b3798e67-7ebe-c893-71bd-fcdadb904f1d@gambas-basic.org>
 <62024b60-a0c3-8302-db56-ee0cea918d08@libero.it>
Message-ID: <29c47ff6-d92a-65f6-1ab3-744b6d7d4f27@gambas-basic.org>

Le 28/10/2022 ? 23:17, gian via User a ?crit?:
> Il 28/10/22 15:28, Benoit Minisini ha scritto:
>> The $EDITOR environment variable is used only when the IDE run 
>> specific git / svn commands that requires it.
>>
>> Maybe I should find a way to workaround this requirement...
>>
>> -- 
>> Beno?t Minisini.
> 
> Hi Benoit,
> 
> OK, stable Gambas (compiled on Mint 21) no longer asks to set an 
> environment variable, no more problems, everything works fine.
> 
> Although I didn't understand how you did it.... Thank you very much
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gianluigi
> 

I did nothing yet.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From bagoneo at libero.it  Sat Oct 29 17:59:40 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 17:59:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] EDITOR environment variable
In-Reply-To: <29c47ff6-d92a-65f6-1ab3-744b6d7d4f27@gambas-basic.org>
References: <532e1ea9-520d-800b-b747-c86b0337c6e4@libero.it>
 <0e58a7a2-e9b1-abf5-da63-ca31a5a35dc5@gmail.com>
 <db9a519f-8515-896b-760f-68aa744817c4@libero.it>
 <b3798e67-7ebe-c893-71bd-fcdadb904f1d@gambas-basic.org>
 <62024b60-a0c3-8302-db56-ee0cea918d08@libero.it>
 <29c47ff6-d92a-65f6-1ab3-744b6d7d4f27@gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <e8ce0eb3-4d00-ff32-323a-aa2c3ccdf30b@libero.it>

Il 29/10/22 14:16, Benoit Minisini ha scritto:
> Le 28/10/2022 ? 23:17, gian via User a ?crit?:
>> Il 28/10/22 15:28, Benoit Minisini ha scritto:
>>> The $EDITOR environment variable is used only when the IDE run 
>>> specific git / svn commands that requires it.
>>>
>>> Maybe I should find a way to workaround this requirement...
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Beno?t Minisini.
>>
>> Hi Benoit,
>>
>> OK, stable Gambas (compiled on Mint 21) no longer asks to set an 
>> environment variable, no more problems, everything works fine.
>>
>> Although I didn't understand how you did it.... Thank you very much
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Gianluigi
>>
> 
> I did nothing yet.
> 

Hi Benoit,

I don't know what to say, I installed both Mint 21 and Ubuntu 22.10 on 
VBox, installed both stable and master and nothing happened.

No request for $EDITOR.

Yet on both systems the required editors are not installed and the 
environment variable :-\

Regards

Gianluigi

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sat Oct 29 20:59:25 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 14:59:25 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Beta testing - Photo organizer.
In-Reply-To: <304fe999-791e-8544-23e6-7b132ef91150@belmotek.net>
References: <304fe999-791e-8544-23e6-7b132ef91150@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <fc330bf9-9fa4-b6c3-6576-efd7162b2167@gmail.com>

On 10/21/22 06:04, Martin wrote:
> Hello friends.
> I made a program to rename and move photos that are in a temporary download directory. I use the libexif library with Extern to 
> read the metadata (writing metadata is not contemplated at the moment).
> I try to make it very simple and less complex than programs like Rapid photo downloader.
> There is a readme.md and readme.pdf in English that (I think) explains how to use it.
> Please if someone can test if it works well on your system and make a review of the program it would be good for me to upload 
> something more mature to the farm.
> I'm especially interested in knowing if it works well on systems like Debian, Ubuntu, Mint or OpenSuse, since I only tested it 
> on Manjaro.
> 
> There is no need to create an installation package, it runs from the IDE.
> 
> Important notice: Please make a copy of the pictures before working with them as this is an alpha version and may fail.
> 
> https://gitlab.com/belmotek/photo-organizer
> 
> Martin

I tried running your project on openSUSE Leap 15.3. It fails to operate correctly on two counts.

1) It does not correctly identify the distro, and
2) It does it find that libexif is installed even though it is.

The reason it does not identify the distro is because you are relying on /ect/issue which on my system is just skeleton text:
Welcome to \S - Kernel \r (\l).

eth0: \4{eth0} \6{eth0}


I changed lines 86-95 of System.Distro to thus:
   Shell "cat /etc/[A-Za-z]*[_-][rv]e[lr]*" To strDistro
   hRegExp = New RegExp(strDistro, "ID=\"(.*?)-.*\"\n")
   strDistro = hRegExp[0].Text ' The next four lines are needed as a workaround of a bug in RegExp for SubMatches.
   strDistro = Split(strDistro, "=")[1]
   strDistro = Trim(strDistro)
   strDistro = String.Mid(strDistro, 2, -1)
   strDistro = Split(strDistro, "-")[0]
   strDistro = String.LCase(strDistro)

That works. See https://www.binarytides.com/linux-command-to-check-distro/; "Portable Command" section

(BTW, what does line 90 do?)


The reason is does not find libexif, aside from not correctly identifying the distro, is two-fold.

1. The name of the package on openSUSE is "libexif12", and
2. You have not provided a case for opensuse (or any rpm-based distro) in the Select statement of System.PkgStat.

I added a Default case to the select that may work for multiple rpm-based distros no matter what the package name actually is:
   Case Else ' openSUSE, Fedora, CentOs, etc.
     strCommand = Subst("rpm -q $(rpm -q --whatprovides &1)", strPkg)
     Shell strCommand & " 2>&1" To strPkgStatus
     If String.InStr(strPkgStatus, "not installed") Then
       bolPkgStatus = False
     Else
       bolPkgStatus = True
     Endif


The application now launches with no errors. But, I am unable to test it any further because selecting "Computer" from the 
drop-down does not show devices and Dialog.SelectDirectory does not allow for entering a location manually. I would need to 
enter a location using Media Transfer Protocol (MTP).


Odds and ends:
The Tooltip for the Settings button (gear icon) is "Help".
Developer should be spelled with one 'p'. :-P


-- 
Lee


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 30 02:45:46 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 01:45:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.desktop.x11 LargeDesktop support
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBNTpvdu_0ECVP36b=h=Am51xpVoBmR=90gTh7ckauNwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCjFjjuNiWF-_oMdH6pgb3yLBci9M3XgLApQ8ASucWeAw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 at 19:19, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 at 23:18, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> >  From what i have read the hint _NET_DESKTOP_LAYOUT is the key, a
>>> single
>>> > large desktop will have this set but multiple desktops will not so i
>>> > have used that as the check criteria. I also seems my MATE is the only
>>> > desktop that uses the large screen method.
>>> >
>>
>>
> Forget that.
> just checking for layout hint does not work as some WMs use multiple
> desktops but also use the layout hint :-\
>

well this works but the code probably sucks and could be done much better.

Checks now go like this..
if not _NET_DESKTOP_LAYOUT hint then multiple viewports and not a virtual
root is assumed and original x11 methods used.
otherwise LAYOUT "Orientation, Cols, Rows, StartCorner" is read to
variables.

if _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS > 1 then virtual root is false and return

if GEOMETRY is larger than screen size the virtual root is true and return.

if _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS = 1 and GEOMETRY is a single screen size then a
check is done as it could be a virtual root with 1 workspace or multiple
viewports with only one iew...

So I try to set  _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS to 2, then read the hint back, if
it's still 1 then it's a virtual root
if it's 2 then it's not a virtual root so remove newly made desktop and
return.

For testing...
in DesktopRoot.class line 88 is this...
  '$iOrientation = Vertical
  '$iColumns = 3
  '$iRows = 0
  '$iStartCorner = BottomRight

they were uncommented and set at all possibilities kind of work in the test
app.. (kind of, mostly, almost)

Testing multiple rows on LinuxMint/MATE using compiz works
(compiz "desktop cube" has to be disabled and "desktop wall" enabled)

The test app included also probably sucks ...  enjoy ;) lol

But potentially the test app is the start of a gambas x11 workspace manager
if anyone else wants to develop one.

If I set a geometry of screen.height x 2 and then set layout to [0,0,2,0]
in my workspace switcher it shows 2 rows but using the mate workspace
manager and also reading _NET_DESKTOP_LAYOUT still show only 1 row.
But in mate workspace manager if i set 2 rows i see another row that is not
usable.
So this test app seems to work and make multiple row workspaces where the
mate workspace manager does not.
Dunno if i'm doing it wrong or mate is? lol

Hopefully you can see what i've done Ben
Maybe it helps?

Respects
BruceS
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From bagoneo at libero.it  Sun Oct 30 23:28:09 2022
From: bagoneo at libero.it (gian)
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 23:28:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web Widgest Demo
Message-ID: <13a5c81d-afdf-673e-8e30-73262f0746bf@libero.it>

Hi Olivier,

I would like to inform you that, with the latest master, your beautiful 
gb.web.widget project also works on the internal server in Ubuntu, as 
you can see from the attached image.

Thank you

Gianluigi
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Mon Oct 31 00:11:15 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 00:11:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Beta testing - Photo organizer.
In-Reply-To: <fc330bf9-9fa4-b6c3-6576-efd7162b2167@gmail.com>
References: <304fe999-791e-8544-23e6-7b132ef91150@belmotek.net>
 <fc330bf9-9fa4-b6c3-6576-efd7162b2167@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <27164284-5303-8f9c-85ad-f5c63f6a58cb@belmotek.net>

El 29/10/22 a las 20:59, T Lee Davidson escribi?:
> I tried running your project on openSUSE Leap 15.3. It fails to operate 
> correctly on two counts.

Fixed

 > I changed lines 86-95 of System.Distro to thus:

Fixed

 > (BTW, what does line 90 do?)

Fixed

 > 1. The name of the package on openSUSE is "libexif12", and
 > 2. You have not provided a case for opensuse (or any rpm-based 
distro) > in the Select statement of System.PkgStat.

Fixed

 > The Tooltip for the Settings button (gear icon) is "Help".
 > Developer should be spelled with one 'p'. ?

Fixed ?

 > The application now launches with no errors. But, I am unable to test 
 > it any further because selecting "Computer" from the drop-down does
 > not show devices and Dialog.SelectDirectory does not allow for
 > entering a location manually. I would need to enter a location using
 > Media Transfer Protocol (MTP).

What graphics library is the desktop you are using based on? GTK, QT 
other? I'm using Manjaro GTK then I see the devices on the dialog box. 
maybe if you are using qt based try to switch to to "qt" components.

Thanks for your feedback.
The changes are applied to the latest version of the repository.
https://gitlab.com/belmotek/photo-organizer

Martin.



From dosida at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 09:11:15 2022
From: dosida at gmail.com (Dimitris Anogiatis)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 02:11:15 -0600
Subject: [Gambas-user] Webview.URL and html file in Data section
Message-ID: <CACMvmED6v3COeonzyA0MB6nGQ1-YhJgu+rbmKonKaq_sS4FVeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys,

I want to use the GTK+3 WebView in my application and I have an HTML page
in the data section of the project. How do I get the webview to read the
HTML file without copying it in /tmp or another folder in the system?

Thanks in Advance for your time
Dimitrios
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From benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org  Mon Oct 31 12:19:07 2022
From: benoit.minisini at gambas-basic.org (Benoit Minisini)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:19:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Webview.URL and html file in Data section
In-Reply-To: <CACMvmED6v3COeonzyA0MB6nGQ1-YhJgu+rbmKonKaq_sS4FVeQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Le 31/10/2022 ? 09:11, Dimitris Anogiatis a ?crit?:
> Hey guys,
> 
> I want to use the GTK+3 WebView in my application and I have an HTML 
> page in the data section of the project. How do I get the webview to 
> read the HTML file without copying it in /tmp or another folder in the 
> system?
> 
> Thanks in Advance for your time
> Dimitrios
> 

You can directly define the HTML contents of the WebView, but it is not 
really useful, as HTML usually refers to other files (css, images...).

So the answer is: you can't.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini.


From olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr  Mon Oct 31 13:59:44 2022
From: olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr (Linus)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 08:59:44 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web Widgest Demo
In-Reply-To: <13a5c81d-afdf-673e-8e30-73262f0746bf@libero.it>
References: <13a5c81d-afdf-673e-8e30-73262f0746bf@libero.it>
Message-ID: <A507EA36-2DA7-4DD0-821C-7ABD58807210@yahoo.fr>

Hello,

ok cool, not sure what happened on your side but now it?s fixed.

I?m working to add more widgets like PieChart, Bar graph if I?m able to do it...


Olivier




> Le 30 oct. 2022 ? 18:28, gian via User <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> a ?crit :
> 
> Hi Olivier,
> 
> I would like to inform you that, with the latest master, your beautiful gb.web.widget project also works on the internal server in Ubuntu, as you can see from the attached image.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Gianluigi
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 15:29:35 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 14:29:35 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Screen.class could do with "TotalWidth" or something
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAZGXhQe1-yrgXDcb6z=GUovtVb2L2rjpuBEY6moG2F4Q@mail.gmail.com>

I've just been investigating Screen.class with 2 monitors connected.

It seems if my primary monitor is to the left of the secondary I get this
info from Screen.class

Screen.X = 0
Screen.Width = Primary width
(no information about secondary display)

If the primary is to the right then i get this..
Screen.X = secondary screen width
Screen.Width = primary screen width

so seeing Screen.X is the width of the other monitor i can see i have 2
monitors and i can move the window over to the other screen.
(i did not try but i assume Form.Move() will use a negative number)

even if i have to use X11.MoveWindow at least i can use the fact Screen.X
is not zero to detect a secondary monitor to the left.

It would be great to get better info about another monitor if the primary
is on the left though.

Maybe something like a Screen.TotalWidth or Screen.ExtendedWidth could be
something that refers to a larger overall usable display size not just the
monitor width? then we can detect a secondary on the right as well.

Respects
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 15:50:14 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 14:50:14 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Screen.class could do with "TotalWidth" or
 something
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAZGXhQe1-yrgXDcb6z=GUovtVb2L2rjpuBEY6moG2F4Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAZGXhQe1-yrgXDcb6z=GUovtVb2L2rjpuBEY6moG2F4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAEJ9dE8Zn4hWYFaGXHB-iUqGXNBwziAVgpFgOQO14L7w@mail.gmail.com>

PS. this also probably explains the issue i had a while ago with dialogs
and windows not popping up on the correct monitor.
I (and everyone else) assumed the windows were only opening on the primary
display , but it's not the case , I just discovered if the primary is on
the right then they open on the secondary left hand display.

i doubt it works on a QT system but the x11 hint _GTK_WORKAREAS_D0 gives me
something i can work with.


On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 at 14:29, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've just been investigating Screen.class with 2 monitors connected.
>
> It seems if my primary monitor is to the left of the secondary I get this
> info from Screen.class
>
> Screen.X = 0
> Screen.Width = Primary width
> (no information about secondary display)
>
> If the primary is to the right then i get this..
> Screen.X = secondary screen width
> Screen.Width = primary screen width
>
> so seeing Screen.X is the width of the other monitor i can see i have 2
> monitors and i can move the window over to the other screen.
> (i did not try but i assume Form.Move() will use a negative number)
>
> even if i have to use X11.MoveWindow at least i can use the fact Screen.X
> is not zero to detect a secondary monitor to the left.
>
> It would be great to get better info about another monitor if the primary
> is on the left though.
>
> Maybe something like a Screen.TotalWidth or Screen.ExtendedWidth could be
> something that refers to a larger overall usable display size not just the
> monitor width? then we can detect a secondary on the right as well.
>
> Respects
> BruceS
>
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 16:06:38 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 15:06:38 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Screen.class could do with "TotalWidth" or
 something
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAEJ9dE8Zn4hWYFaGXHB-iUqGXNBwziAVgpFgOQO14L7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAZGXhQe1-yrgXDcb6z=GUovtVb2L2rjpuBEY6moG2F4Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCAEJ9dE8Zn4hWYFaGXHB-iUqGXNBwziAVgpFgOQO14L7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDghFR37eYdfWkYmWQueQqKW0ua_MJUKifXzHAUovoHXQ@mail.gmail.com>

aah , i just noticed the Screens array :-\
my apologies
BruceS


On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 at 14:50, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> PS. this also probably explains the issue i had a while ago with dialogs
> and windows not popping up on the correct monitor.
> I (and everyone else) assumed the windows were only opening on the primary
> display , but it's not the case , I just discovered if the primary is on
> the right then they open on the secondary left hand display.
>
> i doubt it works on a QT system but the x11 hint _GTK_WORKAREAS_D0 gives
> me something i can work with.
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 at 14:29, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've just been investigating Screen.class with 2 monitors connected.
>>
>> It seems if my primary monitor is to the left of the secondary I get this
>> info from Screen.class
>>
>> Screen.X = 0
>> Screen.Width = Primary width
>> (no information about secondary display)
>>
>> If the primary is to the right then i get this..
>> Screen.X = secondary screen width
>> Screen.Width = primary screen width
>>
>> so seeing Screen.X is the width of the other monitor i can see i have 2
>> monitors and i can move the window over to the other screen.
>> (i did not try but i assume Form.Move() will use a negative number)
>>
>> even if i have to use X11.MoveWindow at least i can use the fact Screen.X
>> is not zero to detect a secondary monitor to the left.
>>
>> It would be great to get better info about another monitor if the primary
>> is on the left though.
>>
>> Maybe something like a Screen.TotalWidth or Screen.ExtendedWidth could be
>> something that refers to a larger overall usable display size not just the
>> monitor width? then we can detect a secondary on the right as well.
>>
>> Respects
>> BruceS
>>
>>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 17:16:55 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 16:16:55 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Screen.class could do with "TotalWidth" or
 something
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDghFR37eYdfWkYmWQueQqKW0ua_MJUKifXzHAUovoHXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAZGXhQe1-yrgXDcb6z=GUovtVb2L2rjpuBEY6moG2F4Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCAEJ9dE8Zn4hWYFaGXHB-iUqGXNBwziAVgpFgOQO14L7w@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 at 15:06, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> aah , i just noticed the Screens array :-\
> my apologies
> BruceS
>

Hmm. i cannot do much with it.
The biggest block is with Me.Window.Screen
if i move a window across screens and inspect Me.Window.Screen it has the
value of the screen i am on either 0 or 1.

At application start though Me.Window.Screen is always 1 , even if the IDE
or application is started on screen 0

This stops me being able to detect screen at launch and move accordingly,
and also hints as to why ALL my gambas apps pop up windows and dialogs on
Screen[1] and not the applications screen.

Something like this should work..

iOpenOn = Me.Window.Screen
Me.Left = ((Screens[iOpenOn].W - Me.W) / 2) + Screens[iOpenOn].X
Me.Top = ((Screens[iOpenOn].H - Me.H) / 2) + Screens[iOpenOn].Y

I thought that "should" detect the screen i am on and centralize the window
on that screen at startup but it always uses Screens[1]

Can you do anything Ben to set Me.Window.Screen on init and not just after
manually moving the window? this could solve some issues.

Many thanks
BruceS
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 20:59:32 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 15:59:32 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Beta testing - Photo organizer.
In-Reply-To: <27164284-5303-8f9c-85ad-f5c63f6a58cb@belmotek.net>
References: <304fe999-791e-8544-23e6-7b132ef91150@belmotek.net>
 <fc330bf9-9fa4-b6c3-6576-efd7162b2167@gmail.com>
 <27164284-5303-8f9c-85ad-f5c63f6a58cb@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <54430078-77ab-dc15-9521-e5efc00d81b3@gmail.com>

On 10/30/22 19:11, Martin wrote:
>  > The application now launches with no errors. But, I am unable to test 
>  >?it?any?further?because?selecting?"Computer"?from?the?drop-down?does
>  >?not?show?devices?and?Dialog.SelectDirectory?does?not?allow?for
>  >?entering?a?location?manually.?I?would?need?to?enter?a?location?using
>  >?Media?Transfer?Protocol?(MTP).
> 
> What graphics library is the desktop you are using based on? GTK, QT other? I'm using Manjaro GTK then I see the devices on the 
> dialog box. maybe?if?you?are?using?qt?based?try?to?switch?to?to?"qt"?components.

I use KDE which defaults to Qt5 since there is no Qt4 installed. I changed the graphical component to gb.gtk3. The GTK3 dialog 
shows devices including the MTP-based device although it could not open it for whatever reason. A USB device could be selected 
and opened. Qt5's selection dialog seems to be lacking.


The regular expression method I used to parse out the distro string seems to be simpler. The string output of:
Shell "cat /etc/[A-Za-z]*[_-][rv]e[lr]*" To sDistro
is stored by Gambas with the quotation marks escaped with a backslash. To get a usable distro name, I changed the parsing 
algorithm of System.Distro() thus:
   Shell "cat /etc/[A-Za-z]*[_-][rv]e[lr]*" To sDistro
   aDistro = Split(sDistro, "\n")

   If aDistro.Count > 0 Then
     For Each sText In aDistro
       If InStr(sText, "=") > 0 Then
         sTag = Split(sText, "=")[0]
         sVal = Split(sText, "=")[1]
         If sTag = "ID" Then
           sDistro = Split(Trim(Lower(sVal)), "-")[0]
           sDistro = Replace(sDistro, "\"", "")
           Break
         Endif
       Endif
     Next
   Endif


The filename of the shared libexif library on my system is 'libexif.so.12'. I had to change line 30 in Meta.module like so:
Library "libexif:12"


After making the above changes, the program works as expected.

BTW, System.Distro() is being called a second time unnecessarily because sDistro is not being passed to System.PkgStat at line 
58 of FMain.Form_Open().


-- 
Lee


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 21:57:09 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 20:57:09 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.desktop.x11 LargeDesktop support
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 at 01:45, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> well this works but the code probably sucks and could be done much better.
>
>
coded now to handle multiple screens (my desktop sizes were all wrong if
more than one screen attached)
so now it manages workspaces and switches workspaces and screens.
https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?p=6218#p6218

I added a class called BigScreen.class with .Width and .Height to get the
total screen size if more than one display attached or not.

calculates like this...
Static Private Sub GetSize()

  Dim hScreen As Screen

  For c As Integer = 0 To Screens.Count - 1
   hScreen = Screens[c]
    If Not c Then
      $iWidth = hScreen.Width
      $iHeight = hScreen.Height
    Else
      If hScreen.X = Screens[c - 1].X + Screens[c - 1].Width Then $iWidth
+= hScreen.Width
      If hScreen.X + hScreen.Width = Screens[c - 1].X Then $iWidth +=
hScreen.Width
      If hScreen.Y = Screens[c - 1].Y + Screens[c - 1].Height Then $iHeight
+= hScreen.Height
      If hScreen.X + hScreen.Height = Screens[c - 1].Y Then $iHeight +=
hScreen.Height

      $iWidth = Max($iWidth, hScreen.Width)
      $iHeight = Max($iHeight, hScreen.Height)

    Endif
  Next

End

Sombody please steal my half assed code and make it perfect enough to add
to gambas

 :^)

Respects
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 22:33:30 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 21:33:30 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Beta testing - Photo organizer.
In-Reply-To: <27164284-5303-8f9c-85ad-f5c63f6a58cb@belmotek.net>
References: <304fe999-791e-8544-23e6-7b132ef91150@belmotek.net>
 <fc330bf9-9fa4-b6c3-6576-efd7162b2167@gmail.com>
 <27164284-5303-8f9c-85ad-f5c63f6a58cb@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDSP8SFHXogExAfRPrKxkJGz-D1YY0Or2SW650E_NXivg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 at 23:11, Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net> wrote:

> El 29/10/22 a las 20:59, T Lee Davidson escribi?:
>
>
>  > The application now launches with no errors. But, I am unable to test
>  > it any further because selecting "Computer" from the drop-down does
>  > not show devices and Dialog.SelectDirectory does not allow for
>  > entering a location manually. I would need to enter a location using
>  > Media Transfer Protocol (MTP).
>
> What graphics library is the desktop you are using based on? GTK, QT
> other? I'm using Manjaro GTK then I see the devices on the dialog box.
> maybe if you are using qt based try to switch to to "qt" components.
>


Have you tried adding gb.dialog component and see if the enhanced dialog
works better?

failing that it won't take long to make a custom selection dialog.

Respects
BruceS
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