From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Jan  1 00:46:17 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 00:46:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Debian and Ubuntu libraries for PostgreSQL ???
In-Reply-To: <e328b06a5e384c97c6cefb40af563d3942cc4d3a.camel@gmail.com>
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Il giorno ven 31 dic 2021 alle ore 22:56 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On Fri, 2021-12-31 at 14:15 +0100, Gianluigi wrote:
> > Hi Benoit,
> >
> > I don't see where the libraries for PostgreSQL to install on Debian
> > and
> > Ubuntu are.
> > What happened to it?
> >
> > Regards
> > Gianluigi
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> Not quite sure what your question is, but the only thing you should
> need for Debian is libpq-devel (no matter what version).
> b


In my Ubuntu 20.04 at the time, in addition to libpq-dev I installed
postgresql-server-dev-12 as it was also listed in the libraries on the wiki
and in gitlab-ci.yml.
Now the library seems to disappear and I don't understand the reason, it
seems that it don't interest anyone.

Since in Genoa the mayor of the city resolved the prohibition for the
year-end barrels, it happened that the Genoese have fired at least twice
the other years, it seems to be under a bombardment ;-D
Happy New Year!

Gianluigi
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Jan  1 00:52:54 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (=?UTF-8?B?QnJpYW4gRw==?=)
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2022 02:52:54 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?utf-8?q?No_Graphical_sudo_program_found?=
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Sorry Bruce I use it very often with a graphical front end...
Almost every management app uses sudo -A
--
Thanks
Brian G Thursday, 30 December 2021, 09:32AM -08:00 from Bruce Steers  bsteers4 at gmail.com :

>RunAsRoot is a "Graphical" launcher.
>same as using pkexec or gksudo or kdesudo
>
>not for using the sudo command for a terminal application.
>
>sudo is a terminal command not a graphical application
>
>sudo apt-get 
>must be run through a terminal not a graphical launcher.
>
>possibly this would work...
>Desktop.RunAsRoot("mate-terminal --command 'sudo apt-get autoclean'")
>
>BruceS
>
>
>On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 15:13, Gianluigi < bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>Hi Benoit and All,
>>
>>one of our friend of the Italian Forum, using this code:
>>
>>Desktop.RunAsRoot("sudo apt-get autoclean")
>>
>>Gets this answer:
>>
>>No Graphical sudo program found
>>
>>What can we say to him?
>>
>>Here the system information: (*)
>>
>>Regards
>>Gianluigi
>>(*)
>>[ System ]
>>Gambas=3.15.2
>>OperatingSystem=Linux
>>Kernel=5.10.0-10-amd64
>>Architecture=x86_64
>>Distribution=Debian
>>Desktop=MATE
>>Theme=fusion
>>Language=it_IT.UTF-8
>>Memory=3801M
>>
>>[Libraries]
>>Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
>>Curl=libcurl.so.4.7.0
>>DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.13
>>GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.33
>>GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.20
>>GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1804.0
>>GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.33
>>GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.20
>>OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
>>Poppler=libpoppler.so.102.0.0
>>QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.15.2
>>SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
>>SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6
>>
>>[Environment]
>>CLUTTER_IM_MODULE=ibus
>>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
>>DESKTOP_SESSION=lightdm-xsession
>>DISPLAY=:0
>>GB_GUI=gb.qt5
>>GDMSESSION=lightdm-xsession
>>GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=/usr/share/applications/gambas3.desktop
>>GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=154545
>>GPG_AGENT_INFO=/run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
>>GTK3_MODULES=xapp-gtk3-module
>>GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus
>>GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
>>GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
>>HOME=/home/
>>LANG=it_IT.UTF-8
>>LC_ALL=it_IT.UTF-8
>>LOGNAME=
>>MATE_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
>>PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
>>PWD=/home/
>>QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
>>QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0
>>QT_IM_MODULE=ibus
>>QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
>>QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1
>>SESSION_MANAGER=local/:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/3866,unix/:/tmp/.ICE-unix/3866
>>SHELL=/bin/bash
>>SSH_AGENT_PID=4034
>>SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
>>TZ=:/etc/localtime
>>USER=
>>XAUTHORITY=/home//.Xauthority
>>XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=MATE
>>XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/mate:/home//.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
>>XDG_GREETER_DATA_DIR=/var/lib/lightdm/data/
>>XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
>>XDG_SEAT=seat0
>>XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
>>XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
>>XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=lightdm-xsession
>>XDG_SESSION_ID=1
>>XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
>>XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
>>XDG_VTNR=7
>>XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus
>>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  1 01:59:21 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 01:59:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Debian and Ubuntu libraries for PostgreSQL ???
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Le 01/01/2022 ? 00:46, Gianluigi a ?crit?:
> 
> In my Ubuntu 20.04 at the time, in addition to libpq-dev I installed 
> postgresql-server-dev-12 as it was also listed in the libraries on the 
> wiki and in gitlab-ci.yml.
> Now the library seems to disappear and I don't understand the reason, it 
> seems that it don't interest anyone.
> 
> Since in Genoa the mayor of the city resolved the prohibition for the 
> year-end barrels, it happened that the Genoese have fired at least twice 
> the other years, it seems to be under a bombardment ;-D
> Happy New Year!
> 
> Gianluigi
> 

The development version does not need the postgresql-server-dev-XX 
package anymore, because that package breaks things in recent Fedora 
version.

That package was needed to get the value of postgresql server constants. 
The value of these constants are now retrieved dynamically at runtime by 
the gb.db.postgresql component.

See commit 
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/4b8b7a8dbdf0264b3902c657293ec7dcda7008c3 
for the details.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Jan  1 10:35:45 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 10:35:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Debian and Ubuntu libraries for PostgreSQL ???
In-Reply-To: <50faa0a3-c926-a578-d950-936f285fe6e8@gmail.com>
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Il giorno sab 1 gen 2022 alle ore 02:00 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Le 01/01/2022 ? 00:46, Gianluigi a ?crit :
> >
> > In my Ubuntu 20.04 at the time, in addition to libpq-dev I installed
> > postgresql-server-dev-12 as it was also listed in the libraries on the
> > wiki and in gitlab-ci.yml.
> > Now the library seems to disappear and I don't understand the reason...
>
> The development version does not need the postgresql-server-dev-XX
> package anymore, because that package breaks things in recent Fedora
> version.
>
> That package was needed to get the value of postgresql server constants.
> The value of these constants are now retrieved dynamically at runtime by
> the gb.db.postgresql component.
>
> See commit
>
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/4b8b7a8dbdf0264b3902c657293ec7dcda7008c3
> for the details.


Hi Benoit,

I thank you for your reply, but I don't understand, Fedora is a different
distribution from Debian and Ubuntu.
Do you write a development version, but if want to compile the stable
version?

One of our friend of the Italian Forum, database expert who has been using
Gambas for years has problems with:
Gambas 3.15.2
Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye
PostgreSQL 13

Can only read the data but not update

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Jan  1 11:16:55 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:16:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Debian and Ubuntu libraries for PostgreSQL ???
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Il giorno sab 1 gen 2022 alle ore 10:35 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
>
> Il giorno sab 1 gen 2022 alle ore 02:00 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>> Le 01/01/2022 ? 00:46, Gianluigi a ?crit :
>> >
>> > In my Ubuntu 20.04 at the time, in addition to libpq-dev I installed
>> > postgresql-server-dev-12 as it was also listed in the libraries on the
>> > wiki and in gitlab-ci.yml.
>> > Now the library seems to disappear and I don't understand the reason...
>>
>> The development version does not need the postgresql-server-dev-XX
>> package anymore, because that package breaks things in recent Fedora
>> version.
>>
>> That package was needed to get the value of postgresql server constants.
>> The value of these constants are now retrieved dynamically at runtime by
>> the gb.db.postgresql component.
>>
>> See commit
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/4b8b7a8dbdf0264b3902c657293ec7dcda7008c3
>> for the details.
>
>
> Hi Benoit,
>
> I thank you for your reply, but I don't understand, Fedora is a different
> distribution from Debian and Ubuntu.
> Do you write a development version, but if want to compile the stable
> version?
>
> One of our friend of the Italian Forum, database expert who has been using
> Gambas for years has problems with:
> Gambas 3.15.2
> Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye
> PostgreSQL 13
>
> Can only read the data but not update
>

Update from our friend:
With DBeaver the database in PostgreSQL works well, with Gambas (compiled)
no longer works

Regards
Gianluigi
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  1 11:46:00 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:46:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Debian and Ubuntu libraries for PostgreSQL ???
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Le 01/01/2022 ? 11:16, Gianluigi a ?crit?:
> 
> Update from our friend:
> With DBeaver the database in PostgreSQL works well, with Gambas 
> (compiled) no longer works
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 

With just "no longer works" without any details or a project that 
triggers a bug, I can't help.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Jan  1 12:02:29 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 12:02:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Debian and Ubuntu libraries for PostgreSQL ???
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Il giorno sab 1 gen 2022 alle ore 11:47 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Le 01/01/2022 ? 11:16, Gianluigi a ?crit :
> >
> > Update from our friend:
> > With DBeaver the database in PostgreSQL works well, with Gambas
> > (compiled) no longer works
> >
> > Regards
> > Gianluigi
> >
>
> With just "no longer works" without any details or a project that
> triggers a bug, I can't help.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

thanks, I collect the details and then open a discussion on the bugtracker

Regards

Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  1 15:01:13 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 14:01:13 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gtk segmentation 11
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCn19jat4dJY7WFCDR3hjQ9KZypthJ6QHeDkiPM9Q14Cg@mail.gmail.com>

I've made a slider/button (WIP)
after last commit it's now giving a seg fault 11 with gtk2/3
It's fine on QT

(project attached)

Happy new year all :)
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From jean-yvon.renaut at wanadoo.fr  Sat Jan  1 15:59:46 2022
From: jean-yvon.renaut at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Yvon)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 15:59:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] plantage
Message-ID: <1ef6546b-8651-2e26-91a9-55646dc59f08@wanadoo.fr>


Hello!
all my best wishes for 2022
Gambas plant: impossible to type more than a few characters and 
everything disappears. No message, nothing.
gambas 3.16.2
Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
Qt Version: 5.12.8
Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 6 Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
Memory: 7,7 Gio


/Bonjour!/

/tous mes v?ux pour 2022
/

/Gambas plante : impossible de taper plus de quelques caract?res et tout 
dispara?t. Pas de message, rien.
/

/gambas 3.16.2
Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
Qt Version: 5.12.8
Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 6 ? Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
Memory: 7,7 Gio/

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  1 16:02:56 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 15:02:56 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gtk segmentation 11
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCn19jat4dJY7WFCDR3hjQ9KZypthJ6QHeDkiPM9Q14Cg@mail.gmail.com>
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Benoit i think bug is this commit.
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/2cbfa19117041be999b26aaca8c6e3ed5c2c1092

if i give a control focus using .SetFocus()  in form_load then the bug goes
away.

if no control has focus then it faults.

Respects
BruceS


On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 14:01, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've made a slider/button (WIP)
> after last commit it's now giving a seg fault 11 with gtk2/3
> It's fine on QT
>
> (project attached)
>
> Happy new year all :)
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  1 16:25:53 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 16:25:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gtk segmentation 11
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Le 01/01/2022 ? 16:02, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> Benoit i think bug is this commit.
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/2cbfa19117041be999b26aaca8c6e3ed5c2c1092 
> <https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/2cbfa19117041be999b26aaca8c6e3ed5c2c1092>
> 
> if i give a control focus using .SetFocus()? in form_load then the bug 
> goes away.
> 
> if no control has focus then it faults.
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

May be fixed by last commit.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  1 16:44:59 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 15:44:59 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gtk segmentation 11
In-Reply-To: <37658f95-beb3-baf0-5342-f55e22bc0b71@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCn19jat4dJY7WFCDR3hjQ9KZypthJ6QHeDkiPM9Q14Cg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDK1_D1JOYRJR8egsFY=xJ4fLOWrHxW6ys=d=AOY-bo8g@mail.gmail.com>
 <37658f95-beb3-baf0-5342-f55e22bc0b71@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCArGkuuVJfVZWYTv7+sVcEMtd=1QkrYQa1cwY5iD0YdFg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 15:27, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 01/01/2022 ? 16:02, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > Benoit i think bug is this commit.
> >
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/2cbfa19117041be999b26aaca8c6e3ed5c2c1092
> > <
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/2cbfa19117041be999b26aaca8c6e3ed5c2c1092
> >
> >
> > if i give a control focus using .SetFocus()  in form_load then the bug
> > goes away.
> >
> > if no control has focus then it faults.
> >
> > Respects
> > BruceS
> >
>
> May be fixed by last commit.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>

Yes indeed, all good now :)
Many thanks good sir.
Happy new year :)
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From roberto.premoli at tiscali.it  Sat Jan  1 19:12:45 2022
From: roberto.premoli at tiscali.it (roberto.premoli at tiscali.it)
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:12:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross compiling bambas for ARM Cortex A53 cores
 [Pinephone]
In-Reply-To: <e447d563c3917bede39a252716999288@tiscali.it>
References: <7c3381aaffbc0d3c3abf45383a11ee74@tiscali.it>
 <0e974eca-697c-fc98-a11e-c892596c537c@gmail.com>
 <e447d563c3917bede39a252716999288@tiscali.it>
Message-ID: <e6a7820350d92589c828897b0ecbaa2d@tiscali.it>

>> As usual with Debian, you have the more recent version in the
>> "unstable" sid version. See
>
>
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gambas3&searchon=names&suite=sid&section=all
> [5]
>
>> [5] Regards, -- Beno?t Minisini ----[
>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette [4] [6] ]----
>
> thanks for the hit! i will move to ustable and later i will update 
> all
> of you.
> Roberto
>
update to the 3d.
Moving to Mobian unstable make the pinephone... unstable.
now the display's luminosity fade out after few second adn there is no 
way to have it back.
So i must wait untill this bug will be fixed on Mobian.
manjearo linux (based on Arch Linxu) is quite more good on pinephone. I 
see there is gambas in repository
but it was not installable. After i did a upgrade to whole manjearo (it 
is a rolling release), gambas simply
disappeared from list of packages available. I hope they will make it 
avaiable again soon.


Con Tiscali Mobile Smart 70 hai 70 GB in 4G, minuti illimitati e 100 
SMS a soli 7,99? al mese http://tisca.li/Smart70



From antonioceula at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 11:42:47 2022
From: antonioceula at gmail.com (Antonio F.S.)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 11:42:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] About this mailing list.
Message-ID: <461d53b6-a123-aa86-37e3-51925eee5a1d@gmail.com>

Hello.

Apart from not being able to receive my own messages through the list, I 
have not been able to register in Gambas Wiki to consult the changes 
that are periodically made to the documentation.

Having said that, while browsing the Internet I found the following url, 
which I think could be useful in terms of message organisation, rather 
than this current system.

It is only a suggestion.

Best regards.
Antonio F.S.


From chrisml at deganius.de  Sun Jan  2 12:25:53 2022
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 12:25:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] About this mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <461d53b6-a123-aa86-37e3-51925eee5a1d@gmail.com>
References: <461d53b6-a123-aa86-37e3-51925eee5a1d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <029dd1cb-47b8-3c34-d866-237d05fb5271@deganius.de>

Am 02.01.22 um 11:42 schrieb Antonio F.S.:

> Apart from not being able to receive my own messages through the list

"Receive your own posts to the list?" is set true for your address.

The ML does not do different things to you than it does to any other 
member. So it should send your own mail to you. Is it possible that your 
own mail to you is tagged as spam by Google and packed in a different 
folder?

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
Dies ist keine Signatur

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 14:00:55 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi Gradaschi)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 14:00:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] About this mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <029dd1cb-47b8-3c34-d866-237d05fb5271@deganius.de>
References: <461d53b6-a123-aa86-37e3-51925eee5a1d@gmail.com>
 <029dd1cb-47b8-3c34-d866-237d05fb5271@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <97e6b87a-ab03-3fd0-26f1-1662c232f236@gmail.com>

Il 02/01/22 12:25, Christof Thalhofer ha scritto:
> Am 02.01.22 um 11:42 schrieb Antonio F.S.:
> 
>> Apart from not being able to receive my own messages through the list
> 
> "Receive your own posts to the list?" is set true for your address.
> 
> The ML does not do different things to you than it does to any other 
> member. So it should send your own mail to you. Is it possible that your 
> own mail to you is tagged as spam by Google and packed in a different 
> folder?

Hi Antonio,

follow the instructions written here and you should have less problems:
https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2018-December/066082.html

However a good (?) idea could be to prohibit from a certain date onwards 
to use gmail as a postal service, under penalty of deletion from the ML 
for those who do not provide it.

Regards
Gianluigi

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 18:03:22 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 12:03:22 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] About this mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <461d53b6-a123-aa86-37e3-51925eee5a1d@gmail.com>
References: <461d53b6-a123-aa86-37e3-51925eee5a1d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7390a03a-615e-2963-1ec9-06321bce9c30@gmail.com>

On 1/2/22 05:42, Antonio F.S. wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Apart from not being able to receive my own messages through the list, I have not been able to register in Gambas Wiki to 
> consult the changes that are periodically made to the documentation.
> 
> Having said that, while browsing the Internet I found the following url, which I think could be useful in terms of message 
> organisation, rather than this current system.
> 
> It is only a suggestion.
> 
> Best regards.
> Antonio F.S.

I don't see any URL. What URL did you find?

What problem are you experiencing trying to register on the Wiki? Is there an error message?


-- 
Lee

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 18:05:39 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 12:05:39 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] About this mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <97e6b87a-ab03-3fd0-26f1-1662c232f236@gmail.com>
References: <461d53b6-a123-aa86-37e3-51925eee5a1d@gmail.com>
 <029dd1cb-47b8-3c34-d866-237d05fb5271@deganius.de>
 <97e6b87a-ab03-3fd0-26f1-1662c232f236@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5e515606-ee02-787e-73e0-eed3af4d4ec5@gmail.com>

On 1/2/22 08:00, Gianluigi Gradaschi wrote:
> However a good (?) idea could be to prohibit from a certain date onwards to use gmail as a postal service, under penalty of 
> deletion from the ML for?those?who?do?not?provide?it.

Are you trying to be humorous again, Gianluigi?

Just in case not: People should be allowed to use whatever email provider they wish.


-- 
Lee

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 20:29:21 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 19:29:21 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] GTK Tab focus oddity
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCj99DMxy_c2x-vbGUMmgdtWqLpJTKSx=7r3676AH86UQ@mail.gmail.com>

Is this a bug?

with QT if you hit tab it runs through the forms objects until it gets to
the last one then it selects the first object after the last and goes round
again.

the opposite if you press the Shift key while tabbing.

With GTK pressing tab it will go through the objects but then just stop at
the last one and not cycle round to the first and go again.

If you hold shift though it runs in reverse but when getting to the first
object it *does* cycle round.


Respects
BruceS
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 20:55:42 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 20:55:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] GTK Tab focus oddity
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCj99DMxy_c2x-vbGUMmgdtWqLpJTKSx=7r3676AH86UQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCj99DMxy_c2x-vbGUMmgdtWqLpJTKSx=7r3676AH86UQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a9d616cd-0556-3081-297b-1d8450b4e5b9@gmail.com>

Le 02/01/2022 ? 20:29, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> Is this a bug?
> 
> with QT if you hit tab it runs through the forms objects until it gets 
> to the last one then it selects the first object after the last and goes 
> round again.
> 
> the opposite if you press the Shift key while tabbing.
> 
> With GTK pressing tab it will go through the objects but then just stop 
> at the last one and not cycle round to the first and go again.
> 
> If you hold shift though it runs in reverse but when getting to the 
> first object it *does* cycle round.
> 
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

Yes. I hijacked the TAB key in both QT and GTK+ components with the same 
routine, to get the same behaviour, but apparently I messed up with GTK+.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 22:19:12 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 21:19:12 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Color.TooltipBackground ain't quite right
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAM-EqZjV4BxR10HbUMdqZ9Cv==JEViGiznTtp3Uqe46g@mail.gmail.com>

Something is flawed with Color.TooltipBackground and TooltipForeground
being writeable.

I noticed it does not change actual tooltip bg and fg if you set it but it
does change the colour for Baloon() messages.

So if i set Color.TooltipBackground = Color.Yellow
then reading it will say it's yellow

but in reality only the Balloon() popups are yellow, object tooltips in the
app are still the same as the system tooltip colors.

i think there should be read/write Color.BalloonBackground and
Color.BalloonForeground
and if actual tooltip colors cannot be set then it should be readonly to
preserve the accuracy.

Respects
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 22:21:36 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 21:21:36 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Color.TooltipBackground ain't quite right
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAM-EqZjV4BxR10HbUMdqZ9Cv==JEViGiznTtp3Uqe46g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAM-EqZjV4BxR10HbUMdqZ9Cv==JEViGiznTtp3Uqe46g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCChc+svUbVEdos7e2dCmSRxqke24uxwo_gon-R6Gc_b7Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 21:19, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Something is flawed with Color.TooltipBackground and TooltipForeground
> being writeable.
>
> I noticed it does not change actual tooltip bg and fg if you set it but it
> does change the colour for Baloon() messages.
>
> So if i set Color.TooltipBackground = Color.Yellow
> then reading it will say it's yellow
>
> but in reality only the Balloon() popups are yellow, object tooltips in
> the app are still the same as the system tooltip colors.
>
> i think there should be read/write Color.BalloonBackground and
> Color.BalloonForeground
> and if actual tooltip colors cannot be set then it should be readonly to
> preserve the accuracy.
>

Or of course make it actually effect Tooltip colors :)

Respects
BruceS
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Jan  2 22:09:31 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 13:09:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Linux Shell - GSH
In-Reply-To: <273235370.19121.1640882095069.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <2093773916.18873.1640816086071.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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Playground help is also supported in the shell

> help loop
Please select Choice using number
0) Event Loop
1) LOOP
2) Loop Control Structures
3) loops_break
0

NAME
event loop
The event loop is an internal function of the Gambas interpreter that waits for
system events and dispatch them as they arrive.
These system events can come from the user interface, from a child process, from
a timer... They are usually followed by a normal Gambas.


See also
    * Event_Loop

> help loop
Please select Choice using number
0) Event Loop
1) LOOP
2) Loop Control Structures
3) loops_break
2
NAME
Loop Control Structures
BREAK             Leaves a loop immediately.
CONTINUE          Jumps to the next occurence of a loop.
DO ... LOOP       Infinite loop.
FOR ... NEXT      Counter loop.
FOR_EACH ... NEXT Enumeration loop.
REPEAT ... UNTIL  Loop with an exit test at the end.
WHILE ... WEND    Loop with an exit test at the beginning.

>


> playground
Listing Playground Examples
Process Response
  1) 100 doors                                                   28) Exceptions                   .....
  2) ABC Problem                                                 29) Execute a system command     .....

........ List Everything in playground ......                                          
 
Enter the Number of the example you would like to work with 0 or Q to quit? > 2

Function loaded it may be executed by entering : abc_problem
 or edited by entering : edit abc_problem
> List abc_problem
Public Sub abc_problem()
Dim sCheck As String[] = ["A", "BARK", "BOOK", "TREAT", "COMMON", "SQUAD", "CONFUSE"]
Dim sBlock As String[] = ["BO", "XK", "DQ", "CP", "NA", "GT", "RE", "TG", "QD", "FS", "JW", "HU", "VI", "AN", "OB", "ER", "FS", "LY", "PC", "ZM"]
Dim sList As New String[]
Dim siCount, siLoop As Short
Dim sTemp, sAnswer As String
 
For Each sTemp In sCheck
  sAnswer = ""
  sList = sBlock.Copy()
  For siCount = 1 To Len(sTemp)
    For siLoop = 0 To sList.Max
      If InStr(sList[siLoop], Mid(sTemp, siCount, 1)) Then
        sList.Extract(siLoop, 1)
        sAnswer &= Mid(sTemp, siCount, 1)
        Break
      Endif
    Next
  Next
 
 If sAnswer = sTemp Then 
   Print sTemp & " - True"
 Else
   Print sTemp & " - False"
 End If
Next
 
End

> abc_problem
A - True
BARK - True
BOOK - False
TREAT - True
COMMON - False
SQUAD - True
CONFUSE - True

> edit abc_problem

>




"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Dec 30, 2021, at 8:34 AM, Brian G brian at westwoodsvcs.com wrote:

> In the shell it is possible to do things such as
> 
> if `ls -l | tr [a-z] [A-Z] > $a` = 0 then
>    print $a
> else
>    echo the command failed
> endif
> 
> from the command line or in a script
> 
> or shortcuts such as
> 
> tcb Thisfile                       ' Copy this file to the clipboard
> 
> !fcb > "thisfile"                  ' copy clipboard to a file
> !fcb | tc [a-z] [A-Z] | less       ' pass clipboard contents to a process
> !fcb > $a                          ' clipboard To a global variable for use in a
> script
> fromclipboard                      ' just print clipboard to the terminal
> 
> browse                             ' Opens a filebrowser in the current
> directory with no wait
> browse /                           ' Opens the file  browser at the root
> directory
> 
> google "New Socks"                 ' Opens the default internet browser search
> page
> 
> for each s as string in $"a{b..f}/filename" ' auto file name expansion and
> enumeration
>    touch {s}
> next
> 
> 
> "Failure is the key to success;
> each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
> 
> ----- On Dec 29, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Martin Belmonte mbelmonte at belmotek.net wrote:
> 
>> El 29/12/21 a las 23:14, Brian G escribi?:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> Over the past couple of years I have developed a Gambas interactive shell, It is
>>> finally at a point where I have been using as my daily driver at work and home.
>>> In my environment it replaces bash for the most part.
>>> 
>>> It can be found here [ https://github.com/justlostintime/GambasShell/wiki |
>>> https://github.com/justlostintime/GambasShell/wiki ]
>>> 
>>> If anyone finds it interesting I would love some feedback.
>> Great, congratulations. I see there is a pdf manual and quite a lot of
>> documentation, good point.
>> I am now trying to make a CAD with gambas, so I don't know if I will be
>> able to test but you never know.
>> Mart?n.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Jan  3 01:24:44 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 01:24:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] About this mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <5e515606-ee02-787e-73e0-eed3af4d4ec5@gmail.com>
References: <461d53b6-a123-aa86-37e3-51925eee5a1d@gmail.com>
 <029dd1cb-47b8-3c34-d866-237d05fb5271@deganius.de>
 <97e6b87a-ab03-3fd0-26f1-1662c232f236@gmail.com>
 <5e515606-ee02-787e-73e0-eed3af4d4ec5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYnB-gb2B-k0Da_QaKbjwYBakCNhRt+zBKA9mUcdv46_w@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno dom 2 gen 2022 alle ore 18:06 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On 1/2/22 08:00, Gianluigi Gradaschi wrote:
> > However a good (?) idea could be to prohibit from a certain date onwards
> to use gmail as a postal service, under penalty of
> > deletion from the ML for those who do not provide it.
>
> Are you trying to be humorous again, Gianluigi?
>

No


>
> Just in case not: People should be allowed to use whatever email provider
> they wish.
>
>
Mine is just a proposal, then you do as you prefer.
GMail puts in spam or worse does not deliver mail according to its own
unquestionable criteria even if you remove all filters!

Regards
Gianluigi
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Mon Jan  3 03:53:55 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 18:53:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] No Graphical sudo program found
In-Reply-To: <1640994773.554935013@f36.my.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFY0fF7A2G10itKHf4KPLodY6MzUVc9cbfLxG1H=J4j7qA@mail.gmail.com>
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here is the part of the man page from sudo which specifically mentions using a graphic interface for ask_pass 
man sudo ... 

-A, --askpass 
Normally, if sudo requires a password, it will read it from the user's terminal. If the -A (askpass) option is specified, 
a (possibly graphical) helper program is executed to read the user's password and output 
the password to the standard output. If the SUDO_ASKPASS environment variable is set, it specifies the path to the helper program. 
Otherwise, if sudo.conf(5) contains a line specifying the askpass program, that 
value will be used. For example: 

# Path to askpass helper program 
Path askpass /usr/X11R6/bin/ssh-askpass 

If no askpass program is available, sudo will exit with an error. 

I am not sure why this would be wrong? 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 

----- On Dec 31, 2021, at 11:52 PM, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote: 

> Sorry Bruce I use it very often with a graphical front end...

> Almost every management app uses sudo -A

> --
> Thanks
> Brian G
> Thursday, 30 December 2021, 09:32AM -08:00 from Bruce Steers [
> mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com | bsteers4 at gmail.com ] :

>> RunAsRoot is a "Graphical" launcher.
>> same as using pkexec or gksudo or kdesudo

>> not for using the sudo command for a terminal application.

>> sudo is a terminal command not a graphical application

>> sudo apt-get
>> must be run through a terminal not a graphical launcher.

>> possibly this would work...
>> Desktop.RunAsRoot("mate-terminal --command 'sudo apt-get autoclean'")

>> BruceS

>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 15:13, Gianluigi < [ mailto:bagonergi at gmail.com |
>> bagonergi at gmail.com ] > wrote:

>>> Hi Benoit and All,

>>> one of our friend of the Italian Forum, using this code:

>>> Desktop.RunAsRoot("sudo apt-get autoclean")

>>> Gets this answer:

>>> No Graphical sudo program found

>>> What can we say to him?

>>> Here the system information: (*)

>>> Regards
>>> Gianluigi
>>> (*)
>>> [System]
>>> Gambas=3.15.2
>>> OperatingSystem=Linux
>>> Kernel=5.10.0-10-amd64
>>> Architecture=x86_64
>>> Distribution=Debian
>>> Desktop=MATE
>>> Theme=fusion
>>> Language=it_IT.UTF-8
>>> Memory=3801M

>>> [Libraries]
>>> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
>>> Curl=libcurl.so.4.7.0
>>> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.13
>>> GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.33
>>> GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.20
>>> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1804.0
>>> GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.33
>>> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.20
>>> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
>>> Poppler=libpoppler.so.102.0.0
>>> QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.15.2
>>> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
>>> SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6

>>> [Environment]
>>> CLUTTER_IM_MODULE=ibus
>>> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
>>> DESKTOP_SESSION=lightdm-xsession
>>> DISPLAY=:0
>>> GB_GUI=gb.qt5
>>> GDMSESSION=lightdm-xsession
>>> GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=/usr/share/applications/gambas3.desktop
>>> GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=154545
>>> GPG_AGENT_INFO=/run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
>>> GTK3_MODULES=xapp-gtk3-module
>>> GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus
>>> GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
>>> GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
>>> HOME=/home/
>>> LANG=it_IT.UTF-8
>>> LC_ALL=it_IT.UTF-8
>>> LOGNAME=
>>> MATE_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
>>> PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
>>> PWD=/home/
>>> QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
>>> QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0
>>> QT_IM_MODULE=ibus
>>> QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
>>> QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1
>>> SESSION_MANAGER=local/:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/3866,unix/:/tmp/.ICE-unix/3866
>>> SHELL=/bin/bash
>>> SSH_AGENT_PID=4034
>>> SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
>>> TZ=:/etc/localtime
>>> USER=
>>> XAUTHORITY=/home//.Xauthority
>>> XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=MATE
>>> XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/mate:/home//.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
>>> XDG_GREETER_DATA_DIR=/var/lib/lightdm/data/
>>> XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
>>> XDG_SEAT=seat0
>>> XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
>>> XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
>>> XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=lightdm-xsession
>>> XDG_SESSION_ID=1
>>> XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
>>> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
>>> XDG_VTNR=7
>>> XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jan  3 05:59:52 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 04:59:52 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control sizes with GTK get enlarged
Message-ID: <CABuQYCD9KrPeRbrg4EL=qi7DsZGf0vwJ3bFETzSpHTLF0JjHGg@mail.gmail.com>

So I'm using the IDE..
Making some custom controls, they are spinable images (works like a spinner
but uses images of dials).

In the IDE I have set the sizes like this..
ImageSpinner1  =  64 64
ImageSpinner2  =  64 64
ImageSpinner3  =  128 128
ImageSpinner4  =  64 64
ImageSpinner5  =  64 64

that is the output from the test ap as it loads in the images
The objects W & H sizes as i have set them in the IDE.

When i load it with GTK2 or 3 this happens...
ImageSpinner1  =  72 72
ImageSpinner2  =  72 72
ImageSpinner3  =  144 144
ImageSpinner4  =  72 72
ImageSpinner5  =  72 72

Is that supposed to happen?

Cheers
BruceS
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Jan  3 11:45:02 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 11:45:02 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control sizes with GTK get enlarged
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCD9KrPeRbrg4EL=qi7DsZGf0vwJ3bFETzSpHTLF0JjHGg@mail.gmail.com>
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Le 03/01/2022 ? 05:59, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> So I'm using the IDE..
> Making some custom controls, they are spinable images (works like a 
> spinner but uses images of dials).
> 
> In the IDE I have set the sizes like this..
> ImageSpinner1 ?= ?64 64
> ImageSpinner2 ?= ?64 64
> ImageSpinner3 ?= ?128 128
> ImageSpinner4 ?= ?64 64
> ImageSpinner5 ?= ?64 64
> 
> that is the output from the test ap as it loads in the images
> The objects W & H sizes as i have set them in the IDE.
> 
> When i load it with GTK2 or 3 this happens...
> ImageSpinner1 ?= ?72 72
> ImageSpinner2 ?= ?72 72
> ImageSpinner3 ?= ?144 144
> ImageSpinner4 ?= ?72 72
> ImageSpinner5 ?= ?72 72
> 
> Is that supposed to happen?
> 
> Cheers
> BruceS
> 

Yes. By default the size of controls is proportional to the font height.

So if you run the IDE with QT and the project with GTK+, and if the GTK+ 
font is bigger than the QT one, it happens.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jan  3 19:14:51 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 18:14:51 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control sizes with GTK get enlarged
In-Reply-To: <6feda0b9-516a-9a99-58ed-c59d54598891@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCD9KrPeRbrg4EL=qi7DsZGf0vwJ3bFETzSpHTLF0JjHGg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 10:46, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 03/01/2022 ? 05:59, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > So I'm using the IDE..
> > Making some custom controls, they are spinable images (works like a
> > spinner but uses images of dials).
> >
> > In the IDE I have set the sizes like this..
> > ImageSpinner1  =  64 64
> > ImageSpinner2  =  64 64
> > ImageSpinner3  =  128 128
> > ImageSpinner4  =  64 64
> > ImageSpinner5  =  64 64
> >
> > that is the output from the test ap as it loads in the images
> > The objects W & H sizes as i have set them in the IDE.
> >
> > When i load it with GTK2 or 3 this happens...
> > ImageSpinner1  =  72 72
> > ImageSpinner2  =  72 72
> > ImageSpinner3  =  144 144
> > ImageSpinner4  =  72 72
> > ImageSpinner5  =  72 72
> >
> > Is that supposed to happen?
> >
> > Cheers
> > BruceS
> >
>
> Yes. By default the size of controls is proportional to the font height.
>
> So if you run the IDE with QT and the project with GTK+, and if the GTK+
> font is bigger than the QT one, it happens.
>
> Regards,
>

But my controls have no font and do not auto-resize for text (or anything)
It it some sort of internal scaling factor that can be disabled?
It's for a DrawingArea that writes (and rotates) an image, correct size was
kinda needed. (although i figured a workaround)

At runtime if i set the controls to be 128x128 they set that size.

Will i have to set everything manually at runtime if i want to ensure
required dimensions are met?

Many thanks
BruceS
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Mon Jan  3 19:34:25 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 20:34:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] About this mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYnB-gb2B-k0Da_QaKbjwYBakCNhRt+zBKA9mUcdv46_w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <461d53b6-a123-aa86-37e3-51925eee5a1d@gmail.com>
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>
> Mine is just a proposal, then you do as you prefer.
> GMail puts in spam or worse does not deliver mail according to its own
> unquestionable criteria even if you remove all filters!
>

Never had that problem and I have used gmail with this list since 2008.
Simply put "never mark as spam" from filter rules for this list. Honestly I
have never seen a decent option for email lists, other than gmail.

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Jan  3 19:43:58 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 19:43:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control sizes with GTK get enlarged
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Le 03/01/2022 ? 19:14, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
>     Yes. By default the size of controls is proportional to the font height.
> 
>     So if you run the IDE with QT and the project with GTK+, and if the
>     GTK+
>     font is bigger than the QT one, it happens.
> 
>     Regards,
> 
> 
> But my controls have no font and do not auto-resize for text (or anything)
> It it some sort of internal scaling factor that can be disabled?
> It's for a DrawingArea that writes (and rotates) an image, correct size 
> was kinda needed. (although i figured a workaround)
> 
> At runtime if i set the controls to be 128x128 they set that size.
> 
> Will i have to set everything manually at runtime if i want to ensure 
> required dimensions are met?
> 
> Many thanks
> BruceS
> 

That behaviour is defined by the virtual "Scaled" property of a Form.

If set, all controls dimensions are proportional to the font height. 
(i.e. the IDE internally divides the pixel value by 'Desktop.Scale' 
before saving the form).

If unset, all controls dimensions are absolute.

If you need absolute control dimensions when making GUI, there is 99% 
chance that you make something wrong.

At runtime, you have the Move() / Resize() methods that are absolute, 
and MoveScaled() / ResizeScaled() that are proportional to 'Desktop.Scale'.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Tue Jan  4 09:44:08 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:14:08 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] gridview sort indicator
Message-ID: <5df88cbb6196f2bd18154550f2c50077c4856ad4.camel@gmail.com>

Is it just me/this machine or is the gridview sort column indicator
getting slightly truncated on the RHS?

b


From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Jan  4 18:56:47 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 12:56:47 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] gridview sort indicator
In-Reply-To: <5df88cbb6196f2bd18154550f2c50077c4856ad4.camel@gmail.com>
References: <5df88cbb6196f2bd18154550f2c50077c4856ad4.camel@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <90fe3aa6-73c5-33c3-4524-641d8e16c903@gmail.com>

On 1/4/22 03:44, bb wrote:
> Is it just me/this machine or is the gridview sort column indicator
> getting slightly truncated on the RHS?
> 
> b

It looks fine here with Qt5.


-- 
Lee

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  5 08:10:50 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2022 17:40:50 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] gridview sort indicator
In-Reply-To: <90fe3aa6-73c5-33c3-4524-641d8e16c903@gmail.com>
References: <5df88cbb6196f2bd18154550f2c50077c4856ad4.camel@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <5ad9a38f3382de91dd558d1eb613c46015c60b06.camel@gmail.com>

On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 12:56 -0500, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> On 1/4/22 03:44, bb wrote:
> > Is it just me/this machine or is the gridview sort column indicator
> > getting slightly truncated on the RHS?
> > 
> > b
> 
> It looks fine here with Qt5.
> 
> 
Hmmm.
See attached - zoom it up.
Can anyone imagine why the top right hand corner would be "missing"?

b

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  5 10:28:16 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 10:28:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Color.TooltipBackground ain't quite right
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Le 02/01/2022 ? 22:21, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 21:19, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Something is flawed with Color.TooltipBackground and
>     TooltipForeground being writeable.
> 
>     I noticed it does not change actual tooltip bg and fg if you set it
>     but it does change the colour for Baloon() messages.
> 
>     So if i set Color.TooltipBackground = Color.Yellow
>     then reading it will say it's yellow
> 
>     but in reality only the Balloon() popups are yellow, object tooltips
>     in the app are still the same as the system tooltip colors.
> 
>     i think there should be read/write Color.BalloonBackground and
>     Color.BalloonForeground
>     and if actual tooltip colors cannot be set then it should be
>     readonly to preserve the accuracy.
> 
> 
> Or of course make it actually effect Tooltip colors :)
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

It's because there is no reliable way to change the system colors with 
GTK+3 (this is what we name "progress" I guess).

So setting the system color properties has no actual effect outside of 
controls written in Gambas.

It would be possible in Qt, but I want to keep the same behaviour in all 
GUI components.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  5 16:11:33 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 16:11:33 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to make NoTabFocus property working in gb.qt5
In-Reply-To: <fcbbe59b-47c9-8283-cc79-0413efd81a8c@gmail.com>
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Le 14/10/2021 ? 17:18, T Lee Davidson a ?crit?:
> On 10/14/21 1:06 AM, Safiur Rahman wrote:
>> Hi
>> Although I set all types of controls' (except ToolBox) NoTabFocus 
>> property to True in gb.qt5, the event _GotFocus() is fired and control 
>> is focused on pressing Tab key. Am I doing something wrong?
>> Attached project
>> -- 
>> Regards
>> Safiur Rahman
> 
> No, I don't think you're doing anything wrong. It appears to be a bug.
> 
> 

Hi,

Tab focus management should have been finally fixed in all GUI 
components, with commit 
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/79fbe6c0a8799da4bdd930ec2b30a604ddfe3bdf.

The NoTabFocus property now works in Qt components, and is now recursive 
(if a container NoTabFocus property is set, all its children will ignore 
Tab focus).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Wed Jan  5 17:44:15 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 11:44:15 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] gridview sort indicator
In-Reply-To: <5ad9a38f3382de91dd558d1eb613c46015c60b06.camel@gmail.com>
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On 1/5/22 02:10, bb wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 12:56 -0500, T Lee Davidson wrote:
>> On 1/4/22 03:44, bb wrote:
>>> Is it just me/this machine or is the gridview sort column indicator
>>> getting slightly truncated on the RHS?
>>>
>>> b
>>
>> It looks fine here with Qt5.
>>
>>
> Hmmm.
> See attached - zoom it up.
> Can anyone imagine why the top right hand corner would be "missing"?
> 
> b

I agree it shouldn't look like that. But, it might be due to the desktop or desktop theme you're using.

The attached is on KDE5 (w/ Qt5) using the Breeze theme.


-- 
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  5 17:55:08 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 16:55:08 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gridview sort indicator
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Ben and I are currently chasing a bug that's to do with QT textextens and
misreading font sizes for chars.

It's possibly related?
could possibly less to with the fonts and more to do with right edge
placement as i assume the sort indicator is not a Char but a
Style.PaintArrow()
This is for sure a mission only for SuperBen , way out of my league ;)

See if a font change helps m8

BruceS


On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 at 07:11, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 12:56 -0500, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> > On 1/4/22 03:44, bb wrote:
> > > Is it just me/this machine or is the gridview sort column indicator
> > > getting slightly truncated on the RHS?
> > >
> > > b
> >
> > It looks fine here with Qt5.
> >
> >
> Hmmm.
> See attached - zoom it up.
> Can anyone imagine why the top right hand corner would be "missing"?
>
> b
>
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  5 17:58:16 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 17:58:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gridview sort indicator
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Le 05/01/2022 ? 17:44, T Lee Davidson a ?crit?:
> On 1/5/22 02:10, bb wrote:
>> On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 12:56 -0500, T Lee Davidson wrote:
>>> On 1/4/22 03:44, bb wrote:
>>>> Is it just me/this machine or is the gridview sort column indicator
>>>> getting slightly truncated on the RHS?
>>>>
>>>> b
>>>
>>> It looks fine here with Qt5.
>>>
>>>
>> Hmmm.
>> See attached - zoom it up.
>> Can anyone imagine why the top right hand corner would be "missing"?
>>
>> b
> 
> I agree it shouldn't look like that. But, it might be due to the desktop 
> or desktop theme you're using.
> 
> The attached is on KDE5 (w/ Qt5) using the Breeze theme.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

The indicator is drawn using the toolkit theme drawing routine for 
arrows. You give this routine an arrow orientation and a rectangle box 
where the arrow should be drawn.

Alas some widget themes partially ignore the rectangle box and you get a 
truncated arrow.

Maybe I should draw a simple arrow and not use the widget theme drawing 
routine.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  5 19:21:58 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 18:21:58 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gridview sort indicator
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 at 17:01, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 05/01/2022 ? 17:44, T Lee Davidson a ?crit :
> > On 1/5/22 02:10, bb wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 12:56 -0500, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> >>> On 1/4/22 03:44, bb wrote:
> >>>> Is it just me/this machine or is the gridview sort column indicator
> >>>> getting slightly truncated on the RHS?
> >>>>
> >>>> b
> >>>
> >>> It looks fine here with Qt5.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Hmmm.
> >> See attached - zoom it up.
> >> Can anyone imagine why the top right hand corner would be "missing"?
> >>
> >> b
> >
> > I agree it shouldn't look like that. But, it might be due to the desktop
> > or desktop theme you're using.
> >
> > The attached is on KDE5 (w/ Qt5) using the Breeze theme.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> The indicator is drawn using the toolkit theme drawing routine for
> arrows. You give this routine an arrow orientation and a rectangle box
> where the arrow should be drawn.
>
> Alas some widget themes partially ignore the rectangle box and you get a
> truncated arrow.
>
> Maybe I should draw a simple arrow and not use the widget theme drawing
> routine.
>

I was hinting at this type of thing on a larger scale once to you Ben. I
suggested a gui kit that hand draws components and you said there already
was, gb.gui.base but that uses Style class for toolkit theme appearance so
not really what i meant.

I'm spitballing here but I think we should make a gb.gui.gambas component
that has it's own theming.
Completely ignores all the various widget rubbish and draws components as
wysiwyg (what you setup is what you get)

Then you, me and everyone else can have much less of a headache trying to
cater for all the widget variants and theme colours ;)

Imagine being able to reply to the statement "I have this problem because
my app works different in qt to gtk" being able to say "use the
gb.gui.gambas component, it's much better" ;)

I'm a dreamer ;)
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 04:45:14 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 03:45:14 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Transparency showing black on a custom qt control.
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Anyone had an instance where a DrawingArea Paint.DrawImage() command painte
with a black background (but only on qt)

wondering if it's a common problem?
Tried using Draw and setting Draw.Transparency, can't get anything to work

i'll attach the proj............................

Hod the phone,,i figured it out.

Problem was because i used image.Copy()

Seems if you Copy() an image it kills the transparency but only on qt :-\

I attach a simple test app.
it just has 2 PictureBox controls.

this is it's code...




*Pic = Picture["icon:/96/gambas"]PictureBox1.Picture =
PicPictureBox2.Picture = Pic.Copy()*
on GTK both images have transparent BG, but on QT the Copy has black BG.
Respects
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 09:03:17 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 18:33:17 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] gridview sort indicator
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On Wed, 2022-01-05 at 17:58 +0100, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> 
> The indicator is drawn using the toolkit theme drawing routine for 
> arrows. You give this routine an arrow orientation and a rectangle
> box 
> where the arrow should be drawn.
> 
> Alas some widget themes partially ignore the rectangle box and you
> get a 
> truncated arrow.
> 
> Maybe I should draw a simple arrow and not use the widget theme
> drawing 
> routine.
> 
> Regards,
> 
If, by toolkit, you mean the GUI then I don't think this is the real
(or single) source of the problem. Here I get the truncated indicator
in both Qt5 and GTK's. 
Also, fonts dont seem to make any difference.
It seems to me that perhaps there is a desktop theme thing involved
here. But that makes little sense.
So, I'd advocate for your "simple arrow" approach, just to see if that
helps. As BruceS suggests, getting away from the vaguaries of themes
here there and everywhere may make this kind of stuff align more to
expectations.

b


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 09:14:11 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 18:44:11 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
Message-ID: <93e47bc18bd6232bbbc4b842e17335d074ed3ad4.camel@gmail.com>

By that I mean, what type of strings can be interpreted as a date?

For example, IsDate("1/Jan/2022") returns false.

I am trying to determine whether a gridview cell is actually a date,
but gridviews only have string contents. My human brain immediately
interprets that string as a date but IsDate doesn't. So what are the
"limits" of what IsDate() can interpret?

b 


From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 09:39:45 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 09:39:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 09:15 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> By that I mean, what type of strings can be interpreted as a date?
>
> For example, IsDate("1/Jan/2022") returns false.
>
> I am trying to determine whether a gridview cell is actually a date,
> but gridviews only have string contents. My human brain immediately
> interprets that string as a date but IsDate doesn't. So what are the
> "limits" of what IsDate() can interpret?
>
> b
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

Have you tried like this: IsDate(Val("1/Jan/2022")) ?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 09:44:22 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 09:44:22 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 09:39 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
>
> Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 09:15 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
>
>> By that I mean, what type of strings can be interpreted as a date?
>>
>> For example, IsDate("1/Jan/2022") returns false.
>>
>> I am trying to determine whether a gridview cell is actually a date,
>> but gridviews only have string contents. My human brain immediately
>> interprets that string as a date but IsDate doesn't. So what are the
>> "limits" of what IsDate() can interpret?
>>
>> b
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
> Have you tried like this: IsDate(Val("1/Jan/2022")) ?
>

Sorry: IsDate(Str(Val("1/Jan/2022")))


> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 10:36:06 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 10:36:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 09:44 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
>
> Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 09:39 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>>
>>
>> Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 09:15 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>> By that I mean, what type of strings can be interpreted as a date?
>>>
>>> For example, IsDate("1/Jan/2022") returns false.
>>>
>>> I am trying to determine whether a gridview cell is actually a date,
>>> but gridviews only have string contents. My human brain immediately
>>> interprets that string as a date but IsDate doesn't. So what are the
>>> "limits" of what IsDate() can interpret?
>>>
>>> b
>>>
>>>
>>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>>
>>
>> Have you tried like this: IsDate(Val("1/Jan/2022")) ?
>>
>
> Sorry: IsDate(Str(Val("1/Jan/2022")))
>

In fact it is obtained from very winding passages, boh!

es.
[code]
Private hGrid As GridView

Public Sub Form_Open()

  Dim aHeaders As String[] = ["DATE", "ID", "MIKEY", "MINNIE"]
  Dim hPan As HBox
  Dim hButton As Button
  Dim hDate As Date

  hGrid = New GridView(Me) As "GridView1"

  With Me
    .H = 512
    .W = 512
    .Arrangement = Arrange.Vertical
    .Margin = True
  End With
  With hGrid
    .Resizable = True
    '.AutoResize = True
    .Expand = True
    .Header = GridView.Horizontal
    .Rows.Count = 10
    .Columns.Count = aHeaders.Count
    .Columns[0].Width = 10
  End With

  For i As Integer = 0 To aHeaders.Max
    hGrid.Columns[i].Title = aHeaders[i]
  Next
  For i = 0 To 9
    hDate = Date(Year(Now), Month(Now - i), Day(Now - i))
    hGrid[i, 0].text = Format(hDate, "dd/mmm/yyyy")
  Next
  hGrid.Columns.Width = -1

  With hPan = New HBox(Me)
    .h = 40
  End With
  With hButton = New Button(Me) As "Button1"
    .h = 40
    .AutoResize = True
    .Text = "CLICK HERE"
  End With

End

Public Sub Button1_Click()
  ' IsDate(Str(Val("1/Jan/2022")))
  Dim hDate As Date = Date(Val(hGrid[0, 0].text))

  Print IsDate(Str(hDate))
  ' Print IsDate(Str(Date(Now)))

End
[code]

Regards
Gianluigi
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 11:55:45 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 21:25:45 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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On Thu, 2022-01-06 at 10:36 +0100, Gianluigi wrote:
> Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 09:44 Gianluigi
> <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 09:39 Gianluigi
> > <bagonergi at gmail.com>
> > ha scritto:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 09:15 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com>
> > > ha
> > > scritto:
> > > 
> > > > By that I mean, what type of strings can be interpreted as a
> > > > date?
> > > > 
> > > > For example, IsDate("1/Jan/2022") returns false.
> > > > 
> > > > I am trying to determine whether a gridview cell is actually a
> > > > date,
> > > > but gridviews only have string contents. My human brain
> > > > immediately
> > > > interprets that string as a date but IsDate doesn't. So what
> > > > are the
> > > > "limits" of what IsDate() can interpret?
> > > > 
> > > > b
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Have you tried like this: IsDate(Val("1/Jan/2022")) ?
> > > 
> > 
> > Sorry: IsDate(Str(Val("1/Jan/2022")))
> > 
> 
> In fact it is obtained from very winding passages, boh!
> 
> es.
> [code]
> Private hGrid As GridView
> 
> Public Sub Form_Open()
> 
> ? Dim aHeaders As String[] = ["DATE", "ID", "MIKEY", "MINNIE"]
> ? Dim hPan As HBox
> ? Dim hButton As Button
> ? Dim hDate As Date
> 
> ? hGrid = New GridView(Me) As "GridView1"
> 
> ? With Me
> ??? .H = 512
> ??? .W = 512
> ??? .Arrangement = Arrange.Vertical
> ??? .Margin = True
> ? End With
> ? With hGrid
> ??? .Resizable = True
> ??? '.AutoResize = True
> ??? .Expand = True
> ??? .Header = GridView.Horizontal
> ??? .Rows.Count = 10
> ??? .Columns.Count = aHeaders.Count
> ??? .Columns[0].Width = 10
> ? End With
> 
> ? For i As Integer = 0 To aHeaders.Max
> ??? hGrid.Columns[i].Title = aHeaders[i]
> ? Next
> ? For i = 0 To 9
> ??? hDate = Date(Year(Now), Month(Now - i), Day(Now - i))
> ??? hGrid[i, 0].text = Format(hDate, "dd/mmm/yyyy")
> ? Next
> ? hGrid.Columns.Width = -1
> 
> ? With hPan = New HBox(Me)
> ??? .h = 40
> ? End With
> ? With hButton = New Button(Me) As "Button1"
> ??? .h = 40
> ??? .AutoResize = True
> ??? .Text = "CLICK HERE"
> ? End With
> 
> End
> 
> Public Sub Button1_Click()
> ? ' IsDate(Str(Val("1/Jan/2022")))
> ? Dim hDate As Date = Date(Val(hGrid[0, 0].text))
> 
> ? Print IsDate(Str(hDate))
> ? ' Print IsDate(Str(Date(Now)))
> 
> End
> [code]
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
Egad! Is that really code or is it your Nona's recipe for Tagliatelle
Putranesca?
??
b


From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 12:27:26 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 12:27:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 11:56 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
> Egad! Is that really code or is it your Nona's recipe for Tagliatelle
> Putranesca?
> ??
> b
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

It says Puttanesca

I limited myself to responding to your question and I also tried to do a
reasoning (even if not appreciated).

Gianluigi
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 12:44:12 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 12:44:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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Le 06/01/2022 ? 09:14, bb a ?crit?:
> By that I mean, what type of strings can be interpreted as a date?
> 
> For example, IsDate("1/Jan/2022") returns false.
> 
> I am trying to determine whether a gridview cell is actually a date,
> but gridviews only have string contents. My human brain immediately
> interprets that string as a date but IsDate doesn't. So what are the
> "limits" of what IsDate() can interpret?
> 
> b
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> .
> 

'IsDate(xxx)' internally uses 'Val()' algorithm to convert the string to 
a date, and returns FALSE if it fails.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 13:16:26 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 13:16:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 12:45 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

>
>
> 'IsDate(xxx)' internally uses 'Val()' algorithm to convert the string to
> a date, and returns FALSE if it fails.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

So it's a bug?

Private hGrid As GridView

Public Sub Form_Open()

  Dim hPan As HBox
  Dim hButton As Button
  Dim hDate As Date

  hGrid = New GridView(Me) As "GridView1"

  With Me
    .H = 512
    .W = 512
    .Arrangement = Arrange.Vertical
    .Margin = True
  End With
  With hGrid
    .Expand = True
    .Header = GridView.Horizontal
    .Rows.Count = 1
    .Columns.Count = 1
    .Columns[0].Title = "DATE"
  End With
  hDate = Date(Now)
  hGrid[0, 0].text = Format(hDate, "dd/mmm/yyyy")
  hGrid.Columns.Width = -1
  With hPan = New HBox(Me)
    .h = 40
  End With
  With hButton = New Button(Me) As "Button1"
    .h = 40
    .AutoResize = True
    .Text = "CLICK HERE"
  End With

End

Public Sub Button1_Click()

  Print IsDate(hGrid[0, 0].Text) ' <---------FALSE!

End

Regards
Gianluigi
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 13:26:17 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 13:26:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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Le 06/01/2022 ? 13:16, Gianluigi a ?crit?:
> 
> 
> Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 12:45 Beno?t Minisini 
> <g4mba5 at gmail.com <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
> 
> 
>     'IsDate(xxx)' internally uses 'Val()' algorithm to convert the
>     string to
>     a date, and returns FALSE if it fails.
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     -- 
>     Beno?t Minisini
> 
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
> 
> 
> So it's a bug?
> 

Of course not. IsDate() <=> Val(). If Val() fails, IsDate() returns False.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 13:27:23 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 13:27:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gridview sort indicator
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Le 06/01/2022 ? 09:03, bb a ?crit?:
> On Wed, 2022-01-05 at 17:58 +0100, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>
>> The indicator is drawn using the toolkit theme drawing routine for
>> arrows. You give this routine an arrow orientation and a rectangle
>> box
>> where the arrow should be drawn.
>>
>> Alas some widget themes partially ignore the rectangle box and you
>> get a
>> truncated arrow.
>>
>> Maybe I should draw a simple arrow and not use the widget theme
>> drawing
>> routine.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
> If, by toolkit, you mean the GUI then I don't think this is the real
> (or single) source of the problem. Here I get the truncated indicator
> in both Qt5 and GTK's.
> Also, fonts dont seem to make any difference.
> It seems to me that perhaps there is a desktop theme thing involved
> here. But that makes little sense.
> So, I'd advocate for your "simple arrow" approach, just to see if that
> helps. As BruceS suggests, getting away from the vaguaries of themes
> here there and everywhere may make this kind of stuff align more to
> expectations.
> 
> b
> 

It should be fixed by the last commit: I now use the custom 
Paint.Arrow() method instead of the widget style arrow drawing routine.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 13:41:03 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 13:41:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 13:27 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

>
> Of course not. IsDate() <=> Val(). If Val() fails, IsDate() returns False.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

I apologize for the error in the code:
With hButton = New Button(hPan) As "Button1"
  .AutoResize = True
  .Text = "CLICK HERE"
End With

But 'hGrid[0, 0].Text' is definitely a date in the form of string, why
Val() does not recognize it?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 13:54:10 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 13:54:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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Le 06/01/2022 ? 13:41, Gianluigi a ?crit?:
> 
> But 'hGrid[0, 0].Text' is definitely a date in the form of string, why 
> Val() does not recognize it?
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 

Because Val() is not for interpreting any string that looks like a date.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 14:01:29 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 14:01:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 13:55 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Le 06/01/2022 ? 13:41, Gianluigi a ?crit :
> >
> > But 'hGrid[0, 0].Text' is definitely a date in the form of string, why
> > Val() does not recognize it?
> >
> > Regards
> > Gianluigi
> >
>
> Because Val() is not for interpreting any string that looks like a date.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

I think the strings that creates Gambas should be recognized :-/

Regards
Gianluigi
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 14:51:49 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 14:51:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Transparency showing black on a custom qt control.
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Le 06/01/2022 ? 04:45, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> Anyone had an instance where a DrawingArea Paint.DrawImage() command 
> painte with a black background (but only on qt)
> 
> wondering if it's a common problem?
> Tried using Draw and setting Draw.Transparency, can't get anything to work
> 
> i'll attach the proj............................
> 
> Hod the phone,,i figured it out.
> 
> Problem was because i used image.Copy()
> 
> Seems if you Copy() an image it kills the transparency but only on qt :-\
> 
> I attach a simple test app.
> it just has 2 PictureBox controls.
> 
> this is it's code...
> 
> *Pic = Picture["icon:/96/gambas"]
> PictureBox1.Picture = Pic
> PictureBox2.Picture = Pic.Copy()
> *
> on GTK both images have transparent BG, but on QT the Copy has black BG.
> Respects
> BruceS
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

It is fixed by commit 
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/52c3a45680be6c76a8056c4a0c663490f14f4ea6.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 16:17:50 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 16:17:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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About RegExp, you could do something like this :
(always to the puttanesca :-P)

[code]
Private hGrid As GridView

Public Sub Form_Open()

  Dim hPan As HBox
  Dim hButton As Button
  Dim hDate As Date

  Component.Load("gb.pcre")
  hGrid = New GridView(Me) As "GridView1"

  With Me
    .H = 512
    .W = 512
    .Arrangement = Arrange.Vertical
    .Margin = True
  End With
  With hGrid
    .Expand = True
    .Header = GridView.Horizontal
    .Rows.Count = 4
    .Columns.Count = 1
    .Columns[0].Title = "DATE"
  End With
  hDate = Date(Now)
  hGrid[0, 0].text = Format(hDate, "dd/mm/yyyy")
  hGrid[1, 0].text = "6/Jan/2022"
  hGrid[2, 0].text = "06/September/2021"
  hGrid[3, 0].text = "Goofy"
  With hPan = New HBox(Me)
    .h = 40
  End With
  With hButton = New Button(hPan) As "Button1"
    .AutoResize = True
    .Text = "CLICK HERE"
  End With

End

Public Sub Button1_Click()

  Print IsAProbableDate(hGrid[0, 0].Text)
  Print IsAProbableDate(hGrid[1, 0].Text)
  Print IsAProbableDate(hGrid[2, 0].Text)
  Print IsAProbableDate(hGrid[3, 0].Text)

End

Private Sub IsAProbableDate(value As String) As Boolean

  If RegExp.Match(value, "([0-9]{1,2})/([0-9]{1,2})/([0-9]{2,4})") Then
    Return True
  Else If RegExp.Match(value,
"(([0-9]{1,2}))/([a-zA-Z]{3,10})/([0-9]{2,4})") Then
    Return True
  Else
    Return False
  Endif

End
[code]

Regards
Gianluigi
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 16:52:50 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 02:22:50 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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On Thu, 2022-01-06 at 16:17 +0100, Gianluigi wrote:
> About RegExp, you could do something like this :
> 
> Private Sub IsAProbableDate(value As String) As Boolean
> 
> ? If RegExp.Match(value, "([0-9]{1,2})/([0-9]{1,2})/([0-9]{2,4})")
> Then
> ??? Return True
> ? Else If RegExp.Match(value,
> "(([0-9]{1,2}))/([a-zA-Z]{3,10})/([0-9]{2,4})") Then
> ??? Return True
> ? Else
> ??? Return False
> ? Endif
> 
> End
> [code]
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
Yes, I like that one. I think I might need to cope with different
separators  :
If RegExp.Match(value,
 "(([0-9]{1,2}))[/-.]([a-zA-Z]{3,10})[/-.]([0-9]{2,4})") Then
     Return True

Is that right? I am not a regexp expert.

b


From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 17:06:40 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 17:06:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 16:53 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On Thu, 2022-01-06 at 16:17 +0100, Gianluigi wrote:
> > About RegExp, you could do something like this :
> >
> > Private Sub IsAProbableDate(value As String) As Boolean
> >
> >   If RegExp.Match(value, "([0-9]{1,2})/([0-9]{1,2})/([0-9]{2,4})")
> > Then
> >     Return True
> >   Else If RegExp.Match(value,
> > "(([0-9]{1,2}))/([a-zA-Z]{3,10})/([0-9]{2,4})") Then
> >     Return True
> >   Else
> >     Return False
> >   Endif
> >
> > End
> > [code]
> >
> > Regards
> > Gianluigi
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> Yes, I like that one. I think I might need to cope with different
> separators  :
> If RegExp.Match(value,
>  "(([0-9]{1,2}))[/-.]([a-zA-Z]{3,10})[/-.]([0-9]{2,4})") Then
>      Return True
>
> Is that right? I am not a regexp expert.
>
> b
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

It should be something like this:
If RegExp.Match(value,
"([0-9]{1,2})(/|-|.)([0-9]{1,2})(/|-|.)([0-9]{2,4})") Then...

g
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 17:48:42 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 03:18:42 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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On Thu, 2022-01-06 at 17:06 +0100, Gianluigi wrote:
> Il giorno gio 6 gen 2022 alle ore 16:53 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
> 
> > On Thu, 2022-01-06 at 16:17 +0100, Gianluigi wrote:
> > > About RegExp, you could do something like this :
> > > 
> > > Private Sub IsAProbableDate(value As String) As Boolean
> > > 
> > > ? If RegExp.Match(value, "([0-9]{1,2})/([0-9]{1,2})/([0-
> > > 9]{2,4})")
> > > Then
> > > ??? Return True
> > > ? Else If RegExp.Match(value,
> > > "(([0-9]{1,2}))/([a-zA-Z]{3,10})/([0-9]{2,4})") Then
> > > ??? Return True
> > > ? Else
> > > ??? Return False
> > > ? Endif
> > > 
> > > End
> > > [code]
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > Gianluigi
> > > 
> > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
> > Yes, I like that one. I think I might need to cope with different
> > separators? :
> > If RegExp.Match(value,
> > ?"(([0-9]{1,2}))[/-.]([a-zA-Z]{3,10})[/-.]([0-9]{2,4})") Then
> > ???? Return True
> > 
> > Is that right? I am not a regexp expert.
> > 
> > b
> > 
> > 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
> > 
> 
> It should be something like this:
> If RegExp.Match(value,
> "([0-9]{1,2})(/|-|.)([0-9]{1,2})(/|-|.)([0-9]{2,4})") Then...
> 
> g
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
Thanks Gianluigi! Finally, after 10 or so years I can now sort gridview
date columns correctly.

b


From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 20:30:08 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:30:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] IsDate(string) - how good is it?
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>
> I think the strings that creates Gambas should be recognized :-/
>

The string was not created by any native Gambas function, but this line:
Format(hDate, "dd/mm/yyyy")

In theory you can create any format with that function (though, not all
options actually work). I don't think example "--mm++yyy**dd" should be
interpreted as a date.
However, IsDate recognizes only the US(?) format, not the localized formats
at all.


Jussi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 22:07:33 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:07:33 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Transparency showing black on a custom qt control.
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 13:53, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 06/01/2022 ? 04:45, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> > Anyone had an instance where a DrawingArea Paint.DrawImage() command
> > painte with a black background (but only on qt)
> >
> > wondering if it's a common problem?
> > Tried using Draw and setting Draw.Transparency, can't get anything to
> work
> >
> > i'll attach the proj............................
> >
> > Hod the phone,,i figured it out.
> >
> > Problem was because i used image.Copy()
> >
> > Seems if you Copy() an image it kills the transparency but only on qt :-\
> >
> > I attach a simple test app.
> > it just has 2 PictureBox controls.
> >
> > this is it's code...
> >
> > *Pic = Picture["icon:/96/gambas"]
> > PictureBox1.Picture = Pic
> > PictureBox2.Picture = Pic.Copy()
> > *
> > on GTK both images have transparent BG, but on QT the Copy has black BG.
> > Respects
> > BruceS
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> It is fixed by commit
>
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/52c3a45680be6c76a8056c4a0c663490f14f4ea6
> .
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>

Cheers Ben,  had me puzzling for sometime that one did.

BruceS
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Sat Jan  8 15:19:58 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 15:19:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help: After update to latest version IDE and some
 apps don't start
Message-ID: <00341cdb-6e11-fa0f-1314-811e424c4302@osnanet.de>

After an update to the latest Gambas version, I still can start SOME of 
the Gambas applications. The Gambas IDE itself as well as some of the 
other applications don't start anymore.

When starting via terminal, I get this:

$ gambas3
Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben)

This is under Ubuntu 18 and Mate. Maybe some inconsistency in GTK+?

I have no chance of going to Ubuntu 20 yet, so should I go back to an 
older Gambas version? And if so, how would I do this?

I use the version from the Gambas Team repo I think. It has installed a 
lot of updates for Gambas, but as the IDE doesn't start, I cannot say 
what exactly was installed.

Thanks for your help!

Rolf

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  8 15:32:34 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 14:32:34 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help: After update to latest version IDE and some
 apps don't start
In-Reply-To: <00341cdb-6e11-fa0f-1314-811e424c4302@osnanet.de>
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 14:26, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> wrote:

> After an update to the latest Gambas version, I still can start SOME of
> the Gambas applications. The Gambas IDE itself as well as some of the
> other applications don't start anymore.
>
> When starting via terminal, I get this:
>
> $ gambas3
> Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben)
>
> This is under Ubuntu 18 and Mate. Maybe some inconsistency in GTK+?
>
> I have no chance of going to Ubuntu 20 yet, so should I go back to an
> older Gambas version? And if so, how would I do this?
>
> I use the version from the Gambas Team repo I think. It has installed a
> lot of updates for Gambas, but as the IDE doesn't start, I cannot say
> what exactly was installed.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Rolf
>

to revert the PPA all you can do is go from daily build to stable.

sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3

sudo apt-get upgate
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Sat Jan  8 15:40:21 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 15:40:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help: After update to latest version IDE and some
 apps don't start
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Am 08.01.22 um 15:32 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 14:26, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de 
> <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
> 
>     After an update to the latest Gambas version, I still can start SOME of
>     the Gambas applications. The Gambas IDE itself as well as some of the
>     other applications don't start anymore.
> 
>     When starting via terminal, I get this:
> 
>     $ gambas3
>     Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben)
> 
>     This is under Ubuntu 18 and Mate. Maybe some inconsistency in GTK+?
> 
>     I have no chance of going to Ubuntu 20 yet, so should I go back to an
>     older Gambas version? And if so, how would I do this?
> 
>     I use the version from the Gambas Team repo I think. It has installed a
>     lot of updates for Gambas, but as the IDE doesn't start, I cannot say
>     what exactly was installed.
> 
>     Thanks for your help!
> 
>     Rolf
> 
> 
> to revert the PPA all you can do is go from daily build to stable.
> 
> sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
> 
> sudo apt-get upgate
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Hm. I'm pretty sure I am using gambas-team/gambas3:

apt-get update
OK:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gambas-team/gambas3/ubuntu bionic InRelease





From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  8 15:44:12 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 14:44:12 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help: After update to latest version IDE and some
 apps don't start
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCC+Sd+N1Wwd9CPOPk=Pg9aq9e3s+RFejquXOpimw_R4Fg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00341cdb-6e11-fa0f-1314-811e424c4302@osnanet.de>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCDdC57VN5LW2FC-va0kP_fd-Q9+0gaxtuea9kRyA6vmFg@mail.gmail.com>

to revert the PPA all you can do is go from daily build to stable.

> sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
>
> sudo apt-get upgate
>
>
oops sorry i hit send by accident.

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
sudo apt-get install "gambas3*"

ya di ya, ya di ya :)

BruceS
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Sat Jan  8 15:47:57 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 15:47:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help: After update to latest version IDE and some
 apps don't start
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Am 08.01.22 um 15:19 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
> After an update to the latest Gambas version, I still can start SOME of 
> the Gambas applications. The Gambas IDE itself as well as some of the 
> other applications don't start anymore.
> 
> When starting via terminal, I get this:
> 
> $ gambas3
> Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben)
> 
> This is under Ubuntu 18 and Mate. Maybe some inconsistency in GTK+?
> 
> I have no chance of going to Ubuntu 20 yet, so should I go back to an 
> older Gambas version? And if so, how would I do this?
> 
> I use the version from the Gambas Team repo I think. It has installed a 
> lot of updates for Gambas, but as the IDE doesn't start, I cannot say 
> what exactly was installed.
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Rolf
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Looking around whereis gambas3

I found that /usr/bin/gambas3 is a link to
/usr/share/gambas3/gambas3.gambas

and that file dates back to April 2019 - is that correct? Or is this an 
old tweak (maybe made by myself)?

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  8 15:50:31 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 14:50:31 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help: After update to latest version IDE and some
 apps don't start
In-Reply-To: <b91e0df2-a572-14ee-1098-db92c8dbb6d6@osnanet.de>
References: <00341cdb-6e11-fa0f-1314-811e424c4302@osnanet.de>
 <CABuQYCC+Sd+N1Wwd9CPOPk=Pg9aq9e3s+RFejquXOpimw_R4Fg@mail.gmail.com>
 <b91e0df2-a572-14ee-1098-db92c8dbb6d6@osnanet.de>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAeNovxTVntNjS8pWUK133uLsd02ZqUftHi1-xr=crFPw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 14:41, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> wrote:

> Am 08.01.22 um 15:32 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 14:26, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de
> > <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
> >
> >     After an update to the latest Gambas version, I still can start SOME
> of
> >     the Gambas applications. The Gambas IDE itself as well as some of the
> >     other applications don't start anymore.
> >
> >     When starting via terminal, I get this:
> >
> >     $ gambas3
> >     Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben)
> >
> >     This is under Ubuntu 18 and Mate. Maybe some inconsistency in GTK+?
> >
> >     I have no chance of going to Ubuntu 20 yet, so should I go back to an
> >     older Gambas version? And if so, how would I do this?
> >
> >     I use the version from the Gambas Team repo I think. It has
> installed a
> >     lot of updates for Gambas, but as the IDE doesn't start, I cannot say
> >     what exactly was installed.
> >
> >     Thanks for your help!
> >
> >     Rolf
> >
> >
> > to revert the PPA all you can do is go from daily build to stable.
> >
> > sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily
> > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
> >
> > sudo apt-get upgate
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> Hm. I'm pretty sure I am using gambas-team/gambas3:
>
> apt-get update
> OK:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gambas-team/gambas3/ubuntu bionic InRelease
>

Aah i see,
hmm, then options would be remove all PPAs and use the default repo version.
could help track the error. if it still errors on repo version you'll know
it's not a gambas bug but a bug in your system.  and if you fix bug then
you can upgrade PPA again.

BruceS
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Sat Jan  8 15:51:04 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 15:51:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help: After update to latest version IDE and some
 apps don't start
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDdC57VN5LW2FC-va0kP_fd-Q9+0gaxtuea9kRyA6vmFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00341cdb-6e11-fa0f-1314-811e424c4302@osnanet.de>
 <CABuQYCC+Sd+N1Wwd9CPOPk=Pg9aq9e3s+RFejquXOpimw_R4Fg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDdC57VN5LW2FC-va0kP_fd-Q9+0gaxtuea9kRyA6vmFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dbd9d0bb-2eb7-17bc-adca-19ab5a4da106@osnanet.de>

Am 08.01.22 um 15:44 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> 
> to revert the PPA all you can do is go from daily build to stable.
> 
>     sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily
>     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
> 
>     sudo apt-get upgate
> 
> 
> oops sorry i hit send by accident.
> 
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
> sudo apt-get install "gambas3*"
> 
> ya di ya, ya di ya :)
> 
> BruceS
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Ah, thank you Bruce :) I really hope this will do. I need these programs 
on Monday, it is in the office... and the other folks too.

Will be back with a result in 10 minutes...

Rolf

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan  8 15:51:18 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 14:51:18 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help: After update to latest version IDE and some
 apps don't start
In-Reply-To: <18145de9-417d-75ad-cbcf-109e18b6eef5@osnanet.de>
References: <00341cdb-6e11-fa0f-1314-811e424c4302@osnanet.de>
 <18145de9-417d-75ad-cbcf-109e18b6eef5@osnanet.de>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDVL+7vZyB5gvg3cr-TCuD15GkqeOO6iyZVXZFxAcnXEg@mail.gmail.com>

ooh yes,, i'd delete both files and re-install


On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 14:48, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> wrote:

> Am 08.01.22 um 15:19 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
> > After an update to the latest Gambas version, I still can start SOME of
> > the Gambas applications. The Gambas IDE itself as well as some of the
> > other applications don't start anymore.
> >
> > When starting via terminal, I get this:
> >
> > $ gambas3
> > Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben)
> >
> > This is under Ubuntu 18 and Mate. Maybe some inconsistency in GTK+?
> >
> > I have no chance of going to Ubuntu 20 yet, so should I go back to an
> > older Gambas version? And if so, how would I do this?
> >
> > I use the version from the Gambas Team repo I think. It has installed a
> > lot of updates for Gambas, but as the IDE doesn't start, I cannot say
> > what exactly was installed.
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> > Rolf
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> Looking around whereis gambas3
>
> I found that /usr/bin/gambas3 is a link to
> /usr/share/gambas3/gambas3.gambas
>
> and that file dates back to April 2019 - is that correct? Or is this an
> old tweak (maybe made by myself)?
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Sat Jan  8 16:02:20 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 16:02:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help: After update to latest version IDE and some
 apps don't start
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDVL+7vZyB5gvg3cr-TCuD15GkqeOO6iyZVXZFxAcnXEg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00341cdb-6e11-fa0f-1314-811e424c4302@osnanet.de>
 <18145de9-417d-75ad-cbcf-109e18b6eef5@osnanet.de>
 <CABuQYCDVL+7vZyB5gvg3cr-TCuD15GkqeOO6iyZVXZFxAcnXEg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0a4eae65-8a6d-0070-4854-cf86c4ef80c6@osnanet.de>

Am 08.01.22 um 15:51 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> ooh yes,, i'd delete both files and re-install
> 
> 
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 14:48, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de 
> <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
> 
>     Am 08.01.22 um 15:19 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
>      > After an update to the latest Gambas version, I still can start
>     SOME of
>      > the Gambas applications. The Gambas IDE itself as well as some of
>     the
>      > other applications don't start anymore.
>      >
>      > When starting via terminal, I get this:
>      >
>      > $ gambas3
>      > Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben)
>      >
>      > This is under Ubuntu 18 and Mate. Maybe some inconsistency in GTK+?
>      >
>      > I have no chance of going to Ubuntu 20 yet, so should I go back
>     to an
>      > older Gambas version? And if so, how would I do this?
>      >
>      > I use the version from the Gambas Team repo I think. It has
>     installed a
>      > lot of updates for Gambas, but as the IDE doesn't start, I cannot
>     say
>      > what exactly was installed.
>      >
>      > Thanks for your help!
>      >
>      > Rolf
>      >
>      > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>      >
> 
>     Looking around whereis gambas3
> 
>     I found that /usr/bin/gambas3 is a link to
>     /usr/share/gambas3/gambas3.gambas
> 
>     and that file dates back to April 2019 - is that correct? Or is this an
>     old tweak (maybe made by myself)?
> 
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

I'm just doing so. It is scaring! It doesn't only remove Gambas, but it 
tweaks, renews and re-installs a whole bunch of other system stuff.

Hope the system runs as usual when everything is ready.


From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Sat Jan  8 16:29:08 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 16:29:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help: After update to latest version IDE and some
 apps don't start
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDdC57VN5LW2FC-va0kP_fd-Q9+0gaxtuea9kRyA6vmFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00341cdb-6e11-fa0f-1314-811e424c4302@osnanet.de>
 <CABuQYCC+Sd+N1Wwd9CPOPk=Pg9aq9e3s+RFejquXOpimw_R4Fg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDdC57VN5LW2FC-va0kP_fd-Q9+0gaxtuea9kRyA6vmFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63840fba-a3a5-54ce-bc7d-dd9fe77d9627@osnanet.de>

Am 08.01.22 um 15:44 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> 
> to revert the PPA all you can do is go from daily build to stable.
> 
>     sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily
>     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
> 
>     sudo apt-get upgate
> 
> 
> oops sorry i hit send by accident.
> 
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
> sudo apt-get install "gambas3*"
> 
> ya di ya, ya di ya :)
> 
> BruceS
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Everything is running fine now, thank you very much (wiping sweat from 
my face).

You saved my weekend :)

Regards
Rolf


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  9 14:54:28 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 13:54:28 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rename a Collection Key retaining the order
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCo1=f56K9kuvA53uaVL5V5gQoWbtSJfR3YeKi39jELjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a simple way to rename a collection key name but retain the order?

I found i can rename it using Swap but it pops the item at the and of the
collection index.

Best i have so far is this fuction that copies and returns the collection
with a preserved order.
so if my second collection item had the key "t2" I can do this...

























*cCollection = RenameKey(cCollection, "t2", "ttt2")Public Sub RenameKey(c
As Collection, sName As String, sNewName As String) As Collection    Dim i
As Integer = c.Keys.Find(sName)  ' find key position  Swap c[sName],
c[sNewName]  ' swap key names  ' make a new collection preserving original
order  Dim nc As New Collection  For cnt As Integer = 0 To c.Count - 1
If cnt = i Then  ' insert point so move last added key to our position
nc.Add(c[c.Keys[c.Keys.Max]], c.Keys[c.Keys.Max])    Else If cnt > i Then
 'after insert so shunt keys back one      nc.Add(c[c.Keys[cnt - 1]],
c.Keys[cnt - 1])    Else  ' before insert so just copy
nc.Add(c[c.Keys[cnt]], c.Keys[cnt])    Endif  Next  Return nc  End*

Am i missing a one line command or is that the only way to do it ?

Cheers all :)
BruceS
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From charlie at cogier.com  Sun Jan  9 18:38:46 2022
From: charlie at cogier.com (Charlie Ogier)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 17:38:46 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rename a Collection Key retaining the order
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCo1=f56K9kuvA53uaVL5V5gQoWbtSJfR3YeKi39jELjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCo1=f56K9kuvA53uaVL5V5gQoWbtSJfR3YeKi39jELjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <35ff84e1-6d55-035c-c4ef-fcca823c387a@cogier.com>

Hi Bruce,

My thought was to rebuild the Collection. That way you could not put in 
the one you want to change and add the one you do. The code below will 
change 'th' to "BUSYDAY".

Public Sub Form_Open()

 ? Dim cAbbr2Weekday As Collection = ["mo": "Monday", "tu": "Tuesday", 
"we": "Wednesday", "th": "Thursday", "fr": "Friday", "sa": "Saturday", 
"su": "Sunday"]
 ? Dim sName As String
 ? Dim cCopy As New Collection
 ? Dim sChange As String = "th"
 ? Dim sNew As String[] = ["Thursday", "BUSYDAY"]

 ? For Each sName In cAbbr2Weekday
 ??? If cAbbr2Weekday.Key = sChange Then
 ????? cCopy.Add(sNew[0], snew[1])
 ??? Else
 ????? cCopy.Add(sName, cAbbr2Weekday.Key)
 ??? Endif
 ? Next

 ? For Each sName In cCopy
 ??? Print cCopy.Key & " --> " & sName
 ? Next

End

Output: -
mo --> Monday
tu --> Tuesday
we --> Wednesday
BUSYDAY --> Thursday
fr --> Friday
sa --> Saturday
su --> Sunday

All the best,

Charlie

On 09/01/2022 13:54, Bruce Steers wrote:
> Is there a simple way to rename a collection key name but retain the 
> order?
>
> I found i can rename it using Swap but it pops the item at the and of 
> the collection index.
>
> Best i have so far is this fuction that copies and returns the 
> collection with a preserved order.
> so if my second collection item had the key "t2" I can do this...
>
> *cCollection = RenameKey(cCollection, "t2", "ttt2")
>
>
> Public Sub RenameKey(c As Collection, sName As String, sNewName As 
> String) As Collection
>
> ? Dim i As Integer = c.Keys.Find(sName) ?' find key position
>
> ? Swap c[sName], c[sNewName] ?' swap key names
>
> ? ' make a new collection preserving original order
> ? Dim nc As New Collection
> ? For cnt As Integer = 0 To c.Count - 1
>
> ? ? If cnt = i Then ?' insert point so move last added key to our position
> ? ? ? nc.Add(c[c.Keys[c.Keys.Max]], c.Keys[c.Keys.Max])
> ? ? Else If cnt > i Then ?'after insert so shunt keys back one
> ? ? ? nc.Add(c[c.Keys[cnt - 1]], c.Keys[cnt - 1])
> ? ? Else ?' before insert so just copy
> ? ? ? nc.Add(c[c.Keys[cnt]], c.Keys[cnt])
> ? ? Endif
> ? Next
>
> ? Return nc
>
> End*
>
> Am i missing a one line command or is that the only way to do it ?
>
> Cheers all :)
> BruceS
>
>
> ----[http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette  ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  9 21:12:43 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 20:12:43 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rename a Collection Key retaining the order
In-Reply-To: <35ff84e1-6d55-035c-c4ef-fcca823c387a@cogier.com>
References: <CABuQYCCo1=f56K9kuvA53uaVL5V5gQoWbtSJfR3YeKi39jELjQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <35ff84e1-6d55-035c-c4ef-fcca823c387a@cogier.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAuMa2G1+d2o_3GaT7tTG-XHuM-OsW6Lz0r4Lpy1qPmGw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 18:04, Charlie Ogier <charlie at cogier.com> wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
>
> My thought was to rebuild the Collection. That way you could not put in
> the one you want to change and add the one you do. The code below will
> change 'th' to "BUSYDAY".
>
> Public Sub Form_Open()
>
>   Dim cAbbr2Weekday As Collection = ["mo": "Monday", "tu": "Tuesday",
> "we": "Wednesday", "th": "Thursday", "fr": "Friday", "sa": "Saturday",
> "su": "Sunday"]
>   Dim sName As String
>   Dim cCopy As New Collection
>   Dim sChange As String = "th"
>   Dim sNew As String[] = ["Thursday", "BUSYDAY"]
>
>   For Each sName In cAbbr2Weekday
>     If cAbbr2Weekday.Key = sChange Then
>       cCopy.Add(sNew[0], snew[1])
>     Else
>       cCopy.Add(sName, cAbbr2Weekday.Key)
>     Endif
>   Next
>
>   For Each sName In cCopy
>     Print cCopy.Key & " --> " & sName
>   Next
>
> End
>
> Output: -
> mo --> Monday
> tu --> Tuesday
> we --> Wednesday
> BUSYDAY --> Thursday
> fr --> Friday
> sa --> Saturday
> su --> Sunday
>
> All the best,
>
> Charlie
>

Thanks Charlie , I think you're right, just copying over and changing the
name is much neater code than the way i think i over-thought it lol

I've now snuck it down to a little function that opperates on the
collection in the arg rather than returning a copy, for less code.


*RenameKey(myCollection, "t2", "ttt2")*










*Public Sub RenameKey(cCol As Collection, sName As String, sNewName As
String)  Dim cCopy As Collection = cCol.Copy()  ' copy collection
cCol.Clear  For Each sVar As Variant In cCopy    cCol.Add(sVar, If(sName =
cCopy.Key, sNewName, cCopy.Key))  NextEnd*

Cheers for the help :)
BruceS
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From tobs at taboege.de  Sun Jan  9 23:03:03 2022
From: tobs at taboege.de (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 23:03:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rename a Collection Key retaining the order
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCo1=f56K9kuvA53uaVL5V5gQoWbtSJfR3YeKi39jELjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCo1=f56K9kuvA53uaVL5V5gQoWbtSJfR3YeKi39jELjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20220109220303.GG245556@T580.localdomain>

On Sun, 09 Jan 2022, Bruce Steers wrote:
> Is there a simple way to rename a collection key name but retain the order?
> 
> I found i can rename it using Swap but it pops the item at the and of the
> collection index.
> 
> Best i have so far is this fuction that copies and returns the collection
> with a preserved order.
> so if my second collection item had the key "t2" I can do this...
> 

Your copy solution is the only one I can come up with. While looking at
the wiki and source code, I noticed that the Collection.Key property
used in the For Next loop is a read/write property, but I found no use
of that fact...

As you are undoubtedly aware, the hash table datatype that Collection
implements in Gambas is usually an unsorted "pile of data" that has some
internal structure facilitating the lookup of data by a string. The fact
that Gambas guarantees that keys are maintained in insertion order and
that iteration always uses this order is a small bonus, but this is more
of an addon than a really exposed feature. You're experiencing this right
now because while it's technically possible to do this efficiently in the
current implementation, there is no API to rename a key without changing
its place in the key order.

If changing keys is something you do often and do on big Collections,
then copying is wasting time. If you experience performance problems
with the copy solution, then consider making a new class explicitly for
managing "a mapping from string key to variant data with an ordering
on the keys". This class would contain a normal Collection and a String[],
where the String[] contains all keys in their desired ordering (and you
ignore the ordering that Collection keeps).

You have to keep both data structures in sync through all modifications
that the user makes (e.g. _put, Add, Remove, any other methods you add),
but if you manage that, you can add your own API to modify a key (inside
the String[]) without affecting its ordering because the algorithms in
your class will always consult the String[] for the ordering of its keys.

This will use more memory because you effectively store all the keys
once more in the String[], but changing a key will be vastly faster than
to recreate the whole Collection. It all depends on how large your data
is and how frequently you expect to have to change keys.

Best,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  9 23:18:11 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 22:18:11 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rename a Collection Key retaining the order
In-Reply-To: <20220109220303.GG245556@T580.localdomain>
References: <CABuQYCCo1=f56K9kuvA53uaVL5V5gQoWbtSJfR3YeKi39jELjQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20220109220303.GG245556@T580.localdomain>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCASbcYpskioNfmLDWTktBY2-ypP1Cgp7JZOUKTWa=n_-A@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 22:03, Tobias Boege via User <
user at lists.gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Jan 2022, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > Is there a simple way to rename a collection key name but retain the
> order?
> >
> > I found i can rename it using Swap but it pops the item at the and of the
> > collection index.
> >
> > Best i have so far is this fuction that copies and returns the collection
> > with a preserved order.
> > so if my second collection item had the key "t2" I can do this...
> >
>
> Your copy solution is the only one I can come up with. While looking at
> the wiki and source code, I noticed that the Collection.Key property
> used in the For Next loop is a read/write property, but I found no use
> of that fact...
>
> As you are undoubtedly aware, the hash table datatype that Collection
> implements in Gambas is usually an unsorted "pile of data" that has some
> internal structure facilitating the lookup of data by a string. The fact
> that Gambas guarantees that keys are maintained in insertion order and
> that iteration always uses this order is a small bonus, but this is more
> of an addon than a really exposed feature. You're experiencing this right
> now because while it's technically possible to do this efficiently in the
> current implementation, there is no API to rename a key without changing
> its place in the key order.
>
> If changing keys is something you do often and do on big Collections,
> then copying is wasting time. If you experience performance problems
> with the copy solution, then consider making a new class explicitly for
> managing "a mapping from string key to variant data with an ordering
> on the keys". This class would contain a normal Collection and a String[],
> where the String[] contains all keys in their desired ordering (and you
> ignore the ordering that Collection keeps).
>
> You have to keep both data structures in sync through all modifications
> that the user makes (e.g. _put, Add, Remove, any other methods you add),
> but if you manage that, you can add your own API to modify a key (inside
> the String[]) without affecting its ordering because the algorithms in
> your class will always consult the String[] for the ordering of its keys.
>
> This will use more memory because you effectively store all the keys
> once more in the String[], but changing a key will be vastly faster than
> to recreate the whole Collection. It all depends on how large your data
> is and how frequently you expect to have to change keys.
>
> Best,
> Tobias
>

Aah i see , thanks for the info :)

the demand (on the computer) is not so bad i think for the application i
have for it.

It's for [Desktop Action ] items in the DesktopFile.class
i've written a new class to handle a .desktop files [Desktop Actions] with
ease :)
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/DesktopActions.class

I guess essentially it does not matter if the [Desktop Action ] order does
not match the Actions order but i think it would make for a neater file if
it is.

Most launchers will not have many actions set so the speed i think will not
matter much.  a reasonable compromise for things nicely in order :)
Thanks again :)
BruceS
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From criguada at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 13:40:58 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:40:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
Message-ID: <CANnPoNY0mL-qmoQQFz0qHja_rCKmYc61ym4vwQ_LQsNq39hqkA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I am using the statement in the subject line in the FMain.Open() handler
(where FMain is the main window of my app).
By using that statement, I had hoped to be able to hide the main window
instead of closing it when a user clicks on the "X" button in the titlebar.
That's what I understood reading the docs.
And I am mostly sure it DID work in the past.
But now, if I click on the "X" button my app is closed instead.
Is it a bug?

I am using Gambas 3.16.3.

Best regards
Cris
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 14:46:11 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 14:46:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno lun 10 gen 2022 alle ore 13:42 Cristiano Guadagnino <
criguada at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hi,
> I am using the statement in the subject line in the FMain.Open() handler
> (where FMain is the main window of my app).
> By using that statement, I had hoped to be able to hide the main window
> instead of closing it when a user clicks on the "X" button in the titlebar.
> That's what I understood reading the docs.
> And I am mostly sure it DID work in the past.
> But now, if I click on the "X" button my app is closed instead.
> Is it a bug?
>
> I am using Gambas 3.16.3.
>
> Best regards
> Cris
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Hi Cris,

This project with the master version works, check if it also works on your
GAMBAS.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 14:55:53 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:55:53 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 13:47, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Il giorno lun 10 gen 2022 alle ore 13:42 Cristiano Guadagnino <
> criguada at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Hi,
>> I am using the statement in the subject line in the FMain.Open() handler
>> (where FMain is the main window of my app).
>> By using that statement, I had hoped to be able to hide the main window
>> instead of closing it when a user clicks on the "X" button in the titlebar.
>> That's what I understood reading the docs.
>> And I am mostly sure it DID work in the past.
>> But now, if I click on the "X" button my app is closed instead.
>> Is it a bug?
>>
>> I am using Gambas 3.16.3.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Cris
>>
>
That's not what Persistent meant.

If your app only has one window and yo uhit the close button then it should
close. that is not a bug.

A Persistent window would be like a settings window, that opens and closes
while your main app is active.

The difference (as i understand) between a persistent window and non
persistent is that when opening and closing the persistent window it's
contents are made fresh or destroyed each time.
A persistant window will not forget it's contents when closing/opening.

If before you could press the close button but the app did not quit then
that was a bug in your app.

To Catch and stop a window close you should do this..


Public Sub Form_Close()

  If bDoNotCloseButHide = True Then
  Me.Hide
  Stop Event
  Endif

End


that will hide the window and stop the app closing on pressing the x.

Hope that makes sense.
BruceS
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 15:05:40 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:05:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Le 10/01/2022 ? 14:55, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 13:47, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bagonergi at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Il giorno lun 10 gen 2022 alle ore 13:42 Cristiano Guadagnino
>     <criguada at gmail.com <mailto:criguada at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
>         Hi,
>         I am using the statement in the subject line in the FMain.Open()
>         handler (where FMain is the main window of my app).
>         By using that statement, I had hoped to be able to hide the main
>         window instead of closing it when a user clicks on the "X"
>         button in the titlebar. That's what I understood reading the docs.
>         And I am mostly sure it DID work in the past.
>         But now, if I click on the "X" button my app is closed instead.
>         Is it a bug?
> 
>         I am using Gambas 3.16.3.
> 
>         Best regards
>         Cris
> 
> 
> That's not what Persistent meant.
> 
> If your app only has one window and yo uhit the close button then it 
> should close. that is not a bug.
> 
> A Persistent window would be like a settings window, that opens and 
> closes while your main app is active.
> 
> The difference (as i understand) between a persistent window and non 
> persistent is that when opening and closing the persistent window it's 
> contents are made fresh or destroyed each time.
> A persistant window will not forget it's contents when closing/opening.
> 
> If before you could press the close button but the app did not quit then 
> that was a bug in your app.
> 
> To Catch and stop a window close you should do this..
> 
> 
> Public Sub Form_Close()
> 
>  ? If bDoNotCloseButHide = True Then
>  ? Me.Hide
>  ? Stop Event
>  ? Endif
> 
> End
> 
> 
> that will hide the window and stop the app closing on pressing the x.
> 
> Hope that makes sense.
> BruceS
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

In less words :-)

Non persistent means "closing = destroying".

Persistent means "closing = hiding".

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 15:12:42 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:12:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno lun 10 gen 2022 alle ore 15:06 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Le 10/01/2022 ? 14:55, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 13:47, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com
> > <mailto:bagonergi at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >     Il giorno lun 10 gen 2022 alle ore 13:42 Cristiano Guadagnino
> >     <criguada at gmail.com <mailto:criguada at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> >
> >         Hi,
> >         I am using the statement in the subject line in the FMain.Open()
> >         handler (where FMain is the main window of my app).
> >         By using that statement, I had hoped to be able to hide the main
> >         window instead of closing it when a user clicks on the "X"
> >         button in the titlebar. That's what I understood reading the
> docs.
> >         And I am mostly sure it DID work in the past.
> >         But now, if I click on the "X" button my app is closed instead.
> >         Is it a bug?
> >
> >         I am using Gambas 3.16.3.
> >
> >         Best regards
> >         Cris
> >
> >
> > That's not what Persistent meant.
> >
> > If your app only has one window and yo uhit the close button then it
> > should close. that is not a bug.
> >
> > A Persistent window would be like a settings window, that opens and
> > closes while your main app is active.
> >
> > The difference (as i understand) between a persistent window and non
> > persistent is that when opening and closing the persistent window it's
> > contents are made fresh or destroyed each time.
> > A persistant window will not forget it's contents when closing/opening.
> >
> > If before you could press the close button but the app did not quit then
> > that was a bug in your app.
> >
> > To Catch and stop a window close you should do this..
> >
> >
> > Public Sub Form_Close()
> >
> >    If bDoNotCloseButHide = True Then
> >    Me.Hide
> >    Stop Event
> >    Endif
> >
> > End
> >
> >
> > that will hide the window and stop the app closing on pressing the x.
> >
> > Hope that makes sense.
> > BruceS
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> In less words :-)
>
> Non persistent means "closing = destroying".
>
> Persistent means "closing = hiding".
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

If my example project is fine could be added to the wiki?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 15:17:52 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 14:17:52 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 14:06, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 10/01/2022 ? 14:55, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 13:47, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com
> > <mailto:bagonergi at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >     Il giorno lun 10 gen 2022 alle ore 13:42 Cristiano Guadagnino
> >     <criguada at gmail.com <mailto:criguada at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> >
> >         Hi,
> >         I am using the statement in the subject line in the FMain.Open()
> >         handler (where FMain is the main window of my app).
> >         By using that statement, I had hoped to be able to hide the main
> >         window instead of closing it when a user clicks on the "X"
> >         button in the titlebar. That's what I understood reading the
> docs.
> >         And I am mostly sure it DID work in the past.
> >         But now, if I click on the "X" button my app is closed instead.
> >         Is it a bug?
> >
> >         I am using Gambas 3.16.3.
> >
> >         Best regards
> >         Cris
> >
> >
> > That's not what Persistent meant.
> >
> > If your app only has one window and yo uhit the close button then it
> > should close. that is not a bug.
> >
> > A Persistent window would be like a settings window, that opens and
> > closes while your main app is active.
> >
> > The difference (as i understand) between a persistent window and non
> > persistent is that when opening and closing the persistent window it's
> > contents are made fresh or destroyed each time.
> > A persistant window will not forget it's contents when closing/opening.
> >
> > If before you could press the close button but the app did not quit then
> > that was a bug in your app.
> >
> > To Catch and stop a window close you should do this..
> >
> >
> > Public Sub Form_Close()
> >
> >    If bDoNotCloseButHide = True Then
> >    Me.Hide
> >    Stop Event
> >    Endif
> >
> > End
> >
> >
> > that will hide the window and stop the app closing on pressing the x.
> >
> > Hope that makes sense.
> > BruceS
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> In less words :-)
>
> Non persistent means "closing = destroying".
>
> Persistent means "closing = hiding".
>

Yes but that's kind of misleading.
to be clear to our friend here, if the app only has 1 window then closing
that window closes the app if it is persistent or not yes?.

Respects
BruceS
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From simonlebon54 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 10 19:25:57 2022
From: simonlebon54 at yahoo.com (Steve G)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 09:25:57 -0900
Subject: [Gambas-user] Version not incrementing proper
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This is a small yet annoying error that I have noticed in the new version. If I have my software as version 2.1.1. I create the executable the next version should be 2.1.2. However it seems to count by twos and it makes an executable version 2.1.3 instead. This Behavior seems rather consistent when we are Auto incrementing the version numbers.

?Sent from TypeApp ?
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jan 10 20:22:33 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:22:33 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
Message-ID: <af117b37-ed74-236d-59b6-e50a26f40d51@osnanet.de>

On my laptop, a new install destroyed my Gambas.

As it seems, I once had installed 3.14 manually (make). Don't know if it 
was removed properly. Then there was a 3.16 over it.

The repo is teams.

I removed 3.16 and wanted to make a proper reinstall, but each time I 
try I get this message now:

Die folgenden Pakete haben unerf?llte Abh?ngigkeiten:
 ?gambas3-runtime : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui aber 
3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
 ?????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui-opengl
 ?????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-jit aber 
3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
 ?gambas3-scripter : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-script aber 
3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
E: Probleme k?nnen nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben zur?ckgehaltene 
defekte Pakete.

So to me it looks as if there are rests of the 3.14.3 install (with 
make) which cannot be removed by the packager. What can I do? I tried 
"make uninstall", but it ran through without error message and nothing 
changed.

Thanks for your help!

Rolf



From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 20:32:48 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:32:48 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
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make sure apt does not have it.
sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"

manually delete the gambas3 folder in /usr/lib and in /usr/share
sudo rm -fr /usr/lib/gamba3
sudo rm -fr /usr/share/gamba3

delete all gambas files from /usr/bin
sudo rm /usr/bin/gb*3*
sudo rm /usr/bin/gambas*


delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3

that should be about all you need to completely clean out for a fresh
install.

Always be sure to use 'make uninstall' first if going from compiled version
to repo version
Always be sure to use 'apt-get remove gambas3*' first if going from repo
version to compiled


BruceS



On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 19:23, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> wrote:

> On my laptop, a new install destroyed my Gambas.
>
> As it seems, I once had installed 3.14 manually (make). Don't know if it
> was removed properly. Then there was a 3.16 over it.
>
> The repo is teams.
>
> I removed 3.16 and wanted to make a proper reinstall, but each time I
> try I get this message now:
>
> Die folgenden Pakete haben unerf?llte Abh?ngigkeiten:
>   gambas3-runtime : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui aber
> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>                     Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui-opengl
>                     Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-jit aber
> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>   gambas3-scripter : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-script aber
> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
> E: Probleme k?nnen nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben zur?ckgehaltene
> defekte Pakete.
>
> So to me it looks as if there are rests of the 3.14.3 install (with
> make) which cannot be removed by the packager. What can I do? I tried
> "make uninstall", but it ran through without error message and nothing
> changed.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Rolf
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jan 10 20:59:03 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:59:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDUC11Vjanb1uouc2eAbQO68SpH_xFppX5jLycRBk9oeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <af117b37-ed74-236d-59b6-e50a26f40d51@osnanet.de>
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Thank you Bruce, but this time it seems it isn't that easy.

Am 10.01.22 um 20:32 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> make sure apt does not have it.
> sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"


Nothing left.


>
> manually delete the gambas3 folder in /usr/lib and in /usr/share
> sudo rm -fr /usr/lib/gamba3
> sudo rm -fr /usr/share/gamba3
>
nothing left in there too

> delete all gambas files from /usr/bin
> sudo rm /usr/bin/gb*3*
> sudo rm /usr/bin/gambas*
>
nothing in there


>
> delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3
yes this existed, I removed it.
>
> that should be about all you need to completely clean out for a fresh 
> install.
>
> Always be sure to use 'make uninstall' first if going from compiled 
> version to repo version
> Always be sure to use 'apt-get remove gambas3*' first if going from 
> repo version to compiled
>
Obviously this was forgotten before I installed 3.16 first. Removing it 
left some junk somewhere. The error is still there.


Rolf


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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 21:00:17 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:00:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
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No, do not delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3 !!
There are all your Gambas settings.

Run only these after removing Gambas installed via package manager:

sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gbx3 /usr/local/bin/gbc3 /usr/local/bin/gba3
/usr/local/bin/gbi3 /usr/local/bin/gbs3
sudo rm -rf /usr/local/lib/gambas3
sudo rm -rf /usr/local/share/gambas3
sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gambas3
sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gambas3.gambas

sudo rm -f /usr/bin/gbx3 /usr/bin/gbc3 /usr/bin/gba3 /usr/bin/gbi3
/usr/local/bin/gbs3
sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/gambas3
sudo rm -rf /usr/share/gambas3
sudo rm -f /usr/bin/gambas3
sudo rm -f /usr/bin/gambas3.gambas

sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gbx3 /usr/local/bin/gbc3 /usr/local/bin/gba3
/usr/local/bin/gbi3
sudo rm -rf /usr/local/lib/gambas3
sudo rm -rf /usr/local/share/gambas3


Jussi



On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 9:34 PM Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> make sure apt does not have it.
> sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
>
> manually delete the gambas3 folder in /usr/lib and in /usr/share
> sudo rm -fr /usr/lib/gamba3
> sudo rm -fr /usr/share/gamba3
>
> delete all gambas files from /usr/bin
> sudo rm /usr/bin/gb*3*
> sudo rm /usr/bin/gambas*
>
>
> delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3
>
> that should be about all you need to completely clean out for a fresh
> install.
>
> Always be sure to use 'make uninstall' first if going from compiled
> version to repo version
> Always be sure to use 'apt-get remove gambas3*' first if going from repo
> version to compiled
>
>
> BruceS
>
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 19:23, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de>
> wrote:
>
>> On my laptop, a new install destroyed my Gambas.
>>
>> As it seems, I once had installed 3.14 manually (make). Don't know if it
>> was removed properly. Then there was a 3.16 over it.
>>
>> The repo is teams.
>>
>> I removed 3.16 and wanted to make a proper reinstall, but each time I
>> try I get this message now:
>>
>> Die folgenden Pakete haben unerf?llte Abh?ngigkeiten:
>>   gambas3-runtime : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui aber
>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>>                     Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui-opengl
>>                     Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-jit aber
>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>>   gambas3-scripter : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-script aber
>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>> E: Probleme k?nnen nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben zur?ckgehaltene
>> defekte Pakete.
>>
>> So to me it looks as if there are rests of the 3.14.3 install (with
>> make) which cannot be removed by the packager. What can I do? I tried
>> "make uninstall", but it ran through without error message and nothing
>> changed.
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 21:02:15 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:02:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
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References: <af117b37-ed74-236d-59b6-e50a26f40d51@osnanet.de>
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Err, not settings, but things you have installed from the farm and maybe
something else you might want to keep.

Jussi

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:00 PM Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> No, do not delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3 !!
> There are all your Gambas settings.
>
> Run only these after removing Gambas installed via package manager:
>
> sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gbx3 /usr/local/bin/gbc3 /usr/local/bin/gba3
> /usr/local/bin/gbi3 /usr/local/bin/gbs3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/local/lib/gambas3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/local/share/gambas3
> sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gambas3
> sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gambas3.gambas
>
> sudo rm -f /usr/bin/gbx3 /usr/bin/gbc3 /usr/bin/gba3 /usr/bin/gbi3
> /usr/local/bin/gbs3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/gambas3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/share/gambas3
> sudo rm -f /usr/bin/gambas3
> sudo rm -f /usr/bin/gambas3.gambas
>
> sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gbx3 /usr/local/bin/gbc3 /usr/local/bin/gba3
> /usr/local/bin/gbi3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/local/lib/gambas3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/local/share/gambas3
>
>
> Jussi
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 9:34 PM Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> make sure apt does not have it.
>> sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
>>
>> manually delete the gambas3 folder in /usr/lib and in /usr/share
>> sudo rm -fr /usr/lib/gamba3
>> sudo rm -fr /usr/share/gamba3
>>
>> delete all gambas files from /usr/bin
>> sudo rm /usr/bin/gb*3*
>> sudo rm /usr/bin/gambas*
>>
>>
>> delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3
>>
>> that should be about all you need to completely clean out for a fresh
>> install.
>>
>> Always be sure to use 'make uninstall' first if going from compiled
>> version to repo version
>> Always be sure to use 'apt-get remove gambas3*' first if going from repo
>> version to compiled
>>
>>
>> BruceS
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 19:23, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On my laptop, a new install destroyed my Gambas.
>>>
>>> As it seems, I once had installed 3.14 manually (make). Don't know if it
>>> was removed properly. Then there was a 3.16 over it.
>>>
>>> The repo is teams.
>>>
>>> I removed 3.16 and wanted to make a proper reinstall, but each time I
>>> try I get this message now:
>>>
>>> Die folgenden Pakete haben unerf?llte Abh?ngigkeiten:
>>>   gambas3-runtime : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui aber
>>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>>>                     Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui-opengl
>>>                     Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-jit aber
>>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>>>   gambas3-scripter : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-script aber
>>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>>> E: Probleme k?nnen nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben zur?ckgehaltene
>>> defekte Pakete.
>>>
>>> So to me it looks as if there are rests of the 3.14.3 install (with
>>> make) which cannot be removed by the packager. What can I do? I tried
>>> "make uninstall", but it ran through without error message and nothing
>>> changed.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>
>>> Rolf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jan 10 21:05:12 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 21:05:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDUC11Vjanb1uouc2eAbQO68SpH_xFppX5jLycRBk9oeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <af117b37-ed74-236d-59b6-e50a26f40d51@osnanet.de>
 <CABuQYCDUC11Vjanb1uouc2eAbQO68SpH_xFppX5jLycRBk9oeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e4a19cc9-0dcc-42e3-72d9-ecafa27349bd@osnanet.de>

In this case, shouldn't it be possible to correct the package database 
manually? Is there a file somewhere containing these references? I mean, 
these are not too many files, should be couple of lines which might be 
removable.

Or isn't it human readable?


Am 10.01.22 um 20:32 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> make sure apt does not have it.
> sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
>
> manually delete the gambas3 folder in /usr/lib and in /usr/share
> sudo rm -fr /usr/lib/gamba3
> sudo rm -fr /usr/share/gamba3
>
> delete all gambas files from /usr/bin
> sudo rm /usr/bin/gb*3*
> sudo rm /usr/bin/gambas*
>
>
> delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3
>
> that should be about all you need to completely clean out for a fresh 
> install.
>
> Always be sure to use 'make uninstall' first if going from compiled 
> version to repo version
> Always be sure to use 'apt-get remove gambas3*' first if going from 
> repo version to compiled
>
>
> BruceS
>
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 19:23, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de 
> <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
>
>     On my laptop, a new install destroyed my Gambas.
>
>     As it seems, I once had installed 3.14 manually (make). Don't know
>     if it
>     was removed properly. Then there was a 3.16 over it.
>
>     The repo is teams.
>
>     I removed 3.16 and wanted to make a proper reinstall, but each time I
>     try I get this message now:
>
>     Die folgenden Pakete haben unerf?llte Abh?ngigkeiten:
>     ??gambas3-runtime : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui aber
>     3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>     ??????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui-opengl
>     ??????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-jit aber
>     3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>     ??gambas3-scripter : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-script aber
>     3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>     E: Probleme k?nnen nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben zur?ckgehaltene
>     defekte Pakete.
>
>     So to me it looks as if there are rests of the 3.14.3 install (with
>     make) which cannot be removed by the packager. What can I do? I tried
>     "make uninstall", but it ran through without error message and
>     nothing
>     changed.
>
>     Thanks for your help!
>
>     Rolf
>
>
>
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 21:08:27 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:08:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
In-Reply-To: <e4a19cc9-0dcc-42e3-72d9-ecafa27349bd@osnanet.de>
References: <af117b37-ed74-236d-59b6-e50a26f40d51@osnanet.de>
 <CABuQYCDUC11Vjanb1uouc2eAbQO68SpH_xFppX5jLycRBk9oeg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFJMe7T7EXU03azwvy+jxPHZvUT5Nc7R1m=qF9jsz8jWzG8HmQ@mail.gmail.com>

When installing manually you can determine the install path. So check also
the /usr/local paths.

Jussi

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:06 PM Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de>
wrote:

> In this case, shouldn't it be possible to correct the package database
> manually? Is there a file somewhere containing these references? I mean,
> these are not too many files, should be couple of lines which might be
> removable.
>
> Or isn't it human readable?
>
>
> Am 10.01.22 um 20:32 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>
> make sure apt does not have it.
> sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
>
> manually delete the gambas3 folder in /usr/lib and in /usr/share
> sudo rm -fr /usr/lib/gamba3
> sudo rm -fr /usr/share/gamba3
>
> delete all gambas files from /usr/bin
> sudo rm /usr/bin/gb*3*
> sudo rm /usr/bin/gambas*
>
>
> delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3
>
> that should be about all you need to completely clean out for a fresh
> install.
>
> Always be sure to use 'make uninstall' first if going from compiled
> version to repo version
> Always be sure to use 'apt-get remove gambas3*' first if going from repo
> version to compiled
>
>
> BruceS
>
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 19:23, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de>
> wrote:
>
>> On my laptop, a new install destroyed my Gambas.
>>
>> As it seems, I once had installed 3.14 manually (make). Don't know if it
>> was removed properly. Then there was a 3.16 over it.
>>
>> The repo is teams.
>>
>> I removed 3.16 and wanted to make a proper reinstall, but each time I
>> try I get this message now:
>>
>> Die folgenden Pakete haben unerf?llte Abh?ngigkeiten:
>>   gambas3-runtime : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui aber
>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>>                     Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui-opengl
>>                     Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-jit aber
>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>>   gambas3-scripter : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-script aber
>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>> E: Probleme k?nnen nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben zur?ckgehaltene
>> defekte Pakete.
>>
>> So to me it looks as if there are rests of the 3.14.3 install (with
>> make) which cannot be removed by the packager. What can I do? I tried
>> "make uninstall", but it ran through without error message and nothing
>> changed.
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jan 10 21:14:13 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 21:14:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7TKJwYGV+FaV2wvQn5xDSzro+q=HQDfGgq+66SaMiGYyQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <af117b37-ed74-236d-59b6-e50a26f40d51@osnanet.de>
 <CABuQYCDUC11Vjanb1uouc2eAbQO68SpH_xFppX5jLycRBk9oeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7TKJwYGV+FaV2wvQn5xDSzro+q=HQDfGgq+66SaMiGYyQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ea54bc58-7f86-0bc3-b3cf-101dc1679a60@osnanet.de>

Too late, Jussi. Anyway,? I tried all those rm lines, but to no avail. 
The error is still there.

Regards
Rolf

Am 10.01.22 um 21:00 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> No, do not delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3 !!
> There are all your Gambas settings.
>
> Run only these after removing Gambas installed via package manager:
>
> sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gbx3 /usr/local/bin/gbc3 /usr/local/bin/gba3 
> /usr/local/bin/gbi3 /usr/local/bin/gbs3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/local/lib/gambas3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/local/share/gambas3
> sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gambas3
> sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gambas3.gambas
>
> sudo rm -f /usr/bin/gbx3 /usr/bin/gbc3 /usr/bin/gba3 /usr/bin/gbi3 
> /usr/local/bin/gbs3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/gambas3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/share/gambas3
> sudo rm -f /usr/bin/gambas3
> sudo rm -f /usr/bin/gambas3.gambas
>
> sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/gbx3 /usr/local/bin/gbc3 /usr/local/bin/gba3 
> /usr/local/bin/gbi3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/local/lib/gambas3
> sudo rm -rf /usr/local/share/gambas3
>
>
> Jussi
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 9:34 PM Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     make sure apt does not have it.
>     sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
>
>     manually delete the gambas3 folder in /usr/lib and in /usr/share
>     sudo rm -fr /usr/lib/gamba3
>     sudo rm -fr /usr/share/gamba3
>
>     delete all gambas files from /usr/bin
>     sudo rm /usr/bin/gb*3*
>     sudo rm /usr/bin/gambas*
>
>
>     delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3
>
>     that should be about all you need to completely clean out for a
>     fresh install.
>
>     Always be sure to use 'make uninstall' first if going from
>     compiled version to repo version
>     Always be sure to use 'apt-get remove gambas3*' first if going
>     from repo version to compiled
>
>
>     BruceS
>
>
>
>     On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 19:23, Rolf-Werner Eilert
>     <rwe-sse at osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
>
>         On my laptop, a new install destroyed my Gambas.
>
>         As it seems, I once had installed 3.14 manually (make). Don't
>         know if it
>         was removed properly. Then there was a 3.16 over it.
>
>         The repo is teams.
>
>         I removed 3.16 and wanted to make a proper reinstall, but each
>         time I
>         try I get this message now:
>
>         Die folgenden Pakete haben unerf?llte Abh?ngigkeiten:
>         ??gambas3-runtime : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui aber
>         3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>         ??????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui-opengl
>         ??????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-jit aber
>         3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>         ??gambas3-scripter : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-script aber
>         3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>         E: Probleme k?nnen nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben
>         zur?ckgehaltene
>         defekte Pakete.
>
>         So to me it looks as if there are rests of the 3.14.3 install
>         (with
>         make) which cannot be removed by the packager. What can I do?
>         I tried
>         "make uninstall", but it ran through without error message and
>         nothing
>         changed.
>
>         Thanks for your help!
>
>         Rolf
>
>
>
>         ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>         <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>
>
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 21:15:46 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:15:46 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7TKJwYGV+FaV2wvQn5xDSzro+q=HQDfGgq+66SaMiGYyQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <af117b37-ed74-236d-59b6-e50a26f40d51@osnanet.de>
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 20:01, Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> No, do not delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3 !!
> There are all your Gambas settings.
>


I thought the settings were i $HOME/.config/gambas3
and $HOME/.local/share/gambas3 was wiki data ,, oh sorry yes and downloaded
farm apps :-\

oops sorry yeah probably not $HOME/.local/share/gambas3 then (well not the
src and bin folders there)

BruceS
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jan 10 21:16:50 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 21:16:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7T7EXU03azwvy+jxPHZvUT5Nc7R1m=qF9jsz8jWzG8HmQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <af117b37-ed74-236d-59b6-e50a26f40d51@osnanet.de>
 <CABuQYCDUC11Vjanb1uouc2eAbQO68SpH_xFppX5jLycRBk9oeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <e4a19cc9-0dcc-42e3-72d9-ecafa27349bd@osnanet.de>
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Message-ID: <503299b4-2481-c84d-ab05-fe82d6b06007@osnanet.de>

No, there is nothing left in there.

Am 10.01.22 um 21:08 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> When installing manually you can determine the install path. So check 
> also the /usr/local paths.
>
> Jussi
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:06 PM Rolf-Werner Eilert 
> <rwe-sse at osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
>
>     In this case, shouldn't it be possible to correct the package
>     database manually? Is there a file somewhere containing these
>     references? I mean, these are not too many files, should be couple
>     of lines which might be removable.
>
>     Or isn't it human readable?
>
>
>     Am 10.01.22 um 20:32 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>>     make sure apt does not have it.
>>     sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
>>
>>     manually delete the gambas3 folder in /usr/lib and in /usr/share
>>     sudo rm -fr /usr/lib/gamba3
>>     sudo rm -fr /usr/share/gamba3
>>
>>     delete all gambas files from /usr/bin
>>     sudo rm /usr/bin/gb*3*
>>     sudo rm /usr/bin/gambas*
>>
>>
>>     delete $HOME/.local/share/gambas3
>>
>>     that should be about all you need to completely clean out for a
>>     fresh install.
>>
>>     Always be sure to use 'make uninstall' first if going from
>>     compiled version to repo version
>>     Always be sure to use 'apt-get remove gambas3*' first if going
>>     from repo version to compiled
>>
>>
>>     BruceS
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 19:23, Rolf-Werner Eilert
>>     <rwe-sse at osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
>>
>>         On my laptop, a new install destroyed my Gambas.
>>
>>         As it seems, I once had installed 3.14 manually (make). Don't
>>         know if it
>>         was removed properly. Then there was a 3.16 over it.
>>
>>         The repo is teams.
>>
>>         I removed 3.16 and wanted to make a proper reinstall, but
>>         each time I
>>         try I get this message now:
>>
>>         Die folgenden Pakete haben unerf?llte Abh?ngigkeiten:
>>         ??gambas3-runtime : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui aber
>>         3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>>         ??????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui-opengl
>>         ??????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-jit aber
>>         3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>>         ??gambas3-scripter : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-script aber
>>         3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>>         E: Probleme k?nnen nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben
>>         zur?ckgehaltene
>>         defekte Pakete.
>>
>>         So to me it looks as if there are rests of the 3.14.3 install
>>         (with
>>         make) which cannot be removed by the packager. What can I do?
>>         I tried
>>         "make uninstall", but it ran through without error message
>>         and nothing
>>         changed.
>>
>>         Thanks for your help!
>>
>>         Rolf
>>
>>
>>
>>         ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>>         <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>>
>>
>>     ----[http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette  <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette>  ]----
>
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 21:23:27 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:23:27 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 20:17, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> wrote:

> No, there is nothing left in there.
> Am 10.01.22 um 21:08 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>
> When installing manually you can determine the install path. So check also
> the /usr/local paths.
>
> Jussi
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:06 PM Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de>
> wrote:
>
>> In this case, shouldn't it be possible to correct the package database
>> manually? Is there a file somewhere containing these references? I mean,
>> these are not too many files, should be couple of lines which might be
>> removable.
>>
>> Or isn't it human readable?
>>
>>
>> Am 10.01.22 um 20:32 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>>
>> make sure apt does not have it.
>> sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
>>
>> maybe try purge?
sudo apt-get purge "gambas3*"
try to fix broken packages?
sudo apt-get update --fix-broken

clean out residual packages?
sudo apt-get autoclean


somethings gotta work :)

BruceS
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jan 10 21:42:28 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 21:42:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
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Am 10.01.22 um 21:23 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 20:17, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de 
> <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
>
>     No, there is nothing left in there.
>
>     Am 10.01.22 um 21:08 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>>     When installing manually you can determine the install path. So
>>     check also the /usr/local paths.
>>
>>     Jussi
>>
>>     On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:06 PM Rolf-Werner Eilert
>>     <rwe-sse at osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
>>
>>         In this case, shouldn't it be possible to correct the package
>>         database manually? Is there a file somewhere containing these
>>         references? I mean, these are not too many files, should be
>>         couple of lines which might be removable.
>>
>>         Or isn't it human readable?
>>
>>
>>         Am 10.01.22 um 20:32 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>>>         make sure apt does not have it.
>>>         sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
>>
> maybe try purge?
> sudo apt-get purge "gambas3*"
> try to fix broken packages?
> sudo apt-get update --fix-broken
>
> clean out residual packages?
> sudo apt-get autoclean
>
>
> somethings gotta work :)
>
> BruceS
>

No, nothing works. I tried dpkg --remove gambas3-runtime, and it says it 
is not installed. So the whole thing seems to be a matter of directives 
rather than files.

To me it seems the package manager is running into some old directives 
to install 3.14 which confuses it.

Regards
Rolf


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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 22:06:59 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 21:06:59 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
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Do you have the gambas 3.14 PPA still added?
Check your repository settings.

Good luck.

On Mon, 10 Jan 2022, 20:43 Rolf-Werner Eilert, <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> wrote:

>
> Am 10.01.22 um 21:23 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 20:17, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de>
> wrote:
>
>> No, there is nothing left in there.
>> Am 10.01.22 um 21:08 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>>
>> When installing manually you can determine the install path. So check
>> also the /usr/local paths.
>>
>> Jussi
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:06 PM Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In this case, shouldn't it be possible to correct the package database
>>> manually? Is there a file somewhere containing these references? I mean,
>>> these are not too many files, should be couple of lines which might be
>>> removable.
>>>
>>> Or isn't it human readable?
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 10.01.22 um 20:32 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>>>
>>> make sure apt does not have it.
>>> sudo apt-get remove "gambas3*"
>>>
>>> maybe try purge?
> sudo apt-get purge "gambas3*"
> try to fix broken packages?
> sudo apt-get update --fix-broken
>
> clean out residual packages?
> sudo apt-get autoclean
>
>
> somethings gotta work :)
>
> BruceS
>
>
> No, nothing works. I tried dpkg --remove gambas3-runtime, and it says it
> is not installed. So the whole thing seems to be a matter of directives
> rather than files.
>
> To me it seems the package manager is running into some old directives to
> install 3.14 which confuses it.
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 22:27:22 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:27:22 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
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Il giorno lun 10 gen 2022 alle ore 21:43 Rolf-Werner Eilert <
rwe-sse at osnanet.de> ha scritto:

> No, nothing works. I tried dpkg --remove gambas3-runtime, and it says it
> is not installed. So the whole thing seems to be a matter of directives
> rather than files.
>
> To me it seems the package manager is running into some old directives to
> install 3.14 which confuses it.
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

Hi Rolf,

follow these instructions to remove the broken packages:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48431372/removing-broken-packages-in-ubuntu

Once you have cleaned everything, compile Gambas from git

Regards
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Mon Jan 10 21:48:41 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:48:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] eval.highlight now pulls in gb.image?
Message-ID: <1157588167.21944.1641847721515.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Is there really a need to pull the gb.image when a script is using gb.eval.highlight? 

This seems be be a new thing, scripter now requires this to be installed to function. but it does not seem to 
do this. 

Is this deliberate of , just a side effect of some other change? 


"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
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From criguada at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 22:45:53 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:45:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno lun 10 gen 2022 alle ore 15:19 Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

>
>> In less words :-)
>>
>> Non persistent means "closing = destroying".
>>
>> Persistent means "closing = hiding".
>>
>
> Yes but that's kind of misleading.
> to be clear to our friend here, if the app only has 1 window then closing
> that window closes the app if it is persistent or not yes?.
>
>
Exactly: this is misleading.
This is exactly how I read the docs, so I thought that setting my main
window as persistent it would not close when clicking on "X", but it would
hide instead.
If it is not so, I think the docs should be amended to clarify the concept.

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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 22:48:11 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 08:18:11 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
In-Reply-To: <af117b37-ed74-236d-59b6-e50a26f40d51@osnanet.de>
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On Mon, 2022-01-10 at 20:22 +0100, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> On my laptop, a new install destroyed my Gambas.
> 
> As it seems, I once had installed 3.14 manually (make). Don't know if
> it 
> was removed properly. Then there was a 3.16 over it.
> 
> The repo is teams.
> 
> I removed 3.16 and wanted to make a proper reinstall, but each time I
> try I get this message now:
> 
> Die folgenden Pakete haben unerf?llte Abh?ngigkeiten:
> ??gambas3-runtime : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui aber 
> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
> ??????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui-opengl
> ??????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-jit aber 
> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
> ??gambas3-scripter : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-script aber 
> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
> E: Probleme k?nnen nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben zur?ckgehaltene
> defekte Pakete.
> 
> So to me it looks as if there are rests of the 3.14.3 install (with 
> make) which cannot be removed by the packager. What can I do? I tried
> "make uninstall", but it ran through without error message and
> nothing 
> changed.
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Rolf
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
You need to rebuild your package manager database.
apt list|grep gambas 
should give you some clues as to what it thinks is installed

b


From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 11:59:52 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:59:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Version not incrementing proper
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Le 10/01/2022 ? 19:25, Steve G via User a ?crit?:
> This is a small yet annoying error that I have noticed in the new 
> version. If I have my software as version 2.1.1. I create the executable 
> the next version should be 2.1.2. However it seems to count by twos and 
> it makes an executable version 2.1.3 instead. This Behavior seems rather 
> consistent when we are Auto incrementing the version numbers.
> 
> Sent from TypeApp <http://www.typeapp.com/r>
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

It's normally fixed in the development version. Do you use it?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 12:03:03 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:03:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] eval.highlight now pulls in gb.image?
In-Reply-To: <1157588167.21944.1641847721515.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <1157588167.21944.1641847721515.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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Le 10/01/2022 ? 21:48, Brian G a ?crit?:
> Is there really a need to pull the gb.image when a script is using 
> gb.eval.highlight?
> 
> This seems be be a new thing, scripter now requires this to be installed 
> to function. but it does not seem to
> do this.
> 
> Is this deliberate of , just a side effect of some other change?
> 
> 
> "Failure is the key to success;
>  ?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
> 

Good question. I don't remember why this dependency, strange...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 12:06:34 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:06:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Le 10/01/2022 ? 22:45, Cristiano Guadagnino a ?crit?:
> Il giorno lun 10 gen 2022 alle ore 15:19 Bruce Steers 
> <bsteers4 at gmail.com <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
> 
>         In less words :-)
> 
>         Non persistent means "closing = destroying".
> 
>         Persistent means "closing = hiding".
> 
> 
>     Yes but that's kind of misleading.
>     to be clear to our friend here, if the app only has 1 window then
>     closing that window closes the app if it is persistent or not yes?.
> 
> 
> Exactly: this is misleading.
> This is exactly how I read the docs, so I thought that setting my main 
> window as persistent it would not close when clicking on "X", but it 
> would hide instead.
> If it is not so, I think the?docs should be amended to clarify the concept.
> 
> Cris
> 

It's a different thing.

GUI applications automatically quit when there have no opened windows 
(persistent or not) or trayicons (or watched file descriptors) anymore.

Because then the user has no way to interact with the program anymore, 
so it seems a good idea to stop the program.

You set the 'Persistent' property when you don't want to recreate your 
window each time you use it, usually when it's a dialog, or a tool window.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From criguada at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 12:40:58 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:40:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 12:07 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

>
> It's a different thing.
>
> GUI applications automatically quit when there have no opened windows
> (persistent or not) or trayicons (or watched file descriptors) anymore.
>
> Because then the user has no way to interact with the program anymore,
> so it seems a good idea to stop the program.
>
> You set the 'Persistent' property when you don't want to recreate your
> window each time you use it, usually when it's a dialog, or a tool window.
>
>
Thank you Benoit, the concept is now clear, but the documentation isn't.
I'll propose a change in the docs and then I'll submit it to the list for
approval.

On another note: my application does have a tray icon, but the application
is closed nonetheless when I click on "X" on the main window.
And this sparks another thought: unfortunately it is not always possible to
close an application by closing the main window. Sometimes you have to use
the QUIT statements, but that generates other problems in GUI programs.
So we have two distinct and somewhat opposite problems here: an application
that closes when it shouldn't (because I still have the tray icon running)
and an application that can't be cleanly closed when it should.
I'll send a separate message for this second issue with some code
demonstrating the problem.
All this is on Gambas 3.16.3: I'm not using development versions on purpose.

Regards
Cris
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From criguada at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 12:50:35 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:50:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 12:40 Cristiano Guadagnino <
criguada at gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
> Thank you Benoit, the concept is now clear, but the documentation isn't.
> I'll propose a change in the docs and then I'll submit it to the list for
> approval.
>
>
I see that the English docs have been updated yesterday fixing this
misunderstanding.
I'll update the Italian docs accordingly.

Cris
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From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:04:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Le 11/01/2022 ? 12:40, Cristiano Guadagnino a ?crit?:
> 
> Thank you Benoit, the concept is now clear, but the documentation isn't.
> I'll propose a change in the docs and then I'll submit it to the list 
> for approval.
> 
> On another?note: my application does have a tray icon, but the 
> application is closed nonetheless when I click on "X" on the main window.

The trayicon must be visible. Like a window.

> And this sparks another thought: unfortunately it is not always possible 
> to close an application by closing the main window. Sometimes you have 
> to use the QUIT statements, but that generates other problems in GUI 
> programs.

If you "have to" use QUIT in GUI program, it normally means there is 
something wrong in it.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From criguada at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 13:06:34 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:06:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 13:05 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

>
> > On another note: my application does have a tray icon, but the
> > application is closed nonetheless when I click on "X" on the main window.
>
> The trayicon must be visible. Like a window.
>
>
It is.

Cris
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 14:16:35 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:16:35 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 11:42, Cristiano Guadagnino <criguada at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 12:07 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>>
>> It's a different thing.
>>
>> GUI applications automatically quit when there have no opened windows
>> (persistent or not) or trayicons (or watched file descriptors) anymore.
>>
>> Because then the user has no way to interact with the program anymore,
>> so it seems a good idea to stop the program.
>>
>> You set the 'Persistent' property when you don't want to recreate your
>> window each time you use it, usually when it's a dialog, or a tool window.
>>
>>
> Thank you Benoit, the concept is now clear, but the documentation isn't.
> I'll propose a change in the docs and then I'll submit it to the list for
> approval.
>
> On another note: my application does have a tray icon, but the application
> is closed nonetheless when I click on "X" on the main window.
> And this sparks another thought: unfortunately it is not always possible
> to close an application by closing the main window. Sometimes you have to
> use the QUIT statements, but that generates other problems in GUI programs.
> So we have two distinct and somewhat opposite problems here: an
> application that closes when it shouldn't (because I still have the tray
> icon running) and an application that can't be cleanly closed when it
> should.
> I'll send a separate message for this second issue with some code
> demonstrating the problem.
> All this is on Gambas 3.16.3: I'm not using development versions on
> purpose.
>

If an application won't quit properly it's usually because an open file
handle/stream has not been closed or a timer is still running or something
like that.

Wishing well
BruceS
If all open handles like that are closed then Quit does not give any errors
, but is also not required to be used either :).
The errors you see when using quit will give a clue as to what's still open.
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 14:20:53 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:20:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 12:51 Cristiano Guadagnino <
criguada at gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
> I see that the English docs have been updated yesterday fixing this
> misunderstanding.
> I'll update the Italian docs accordingly.
>
>
Hi Lee,

there was a double 'the' in the wiki, but it seems to me that it is not
exactly how it should be explained as my application shows and that I
attach again.
The FMain can also be set as permanent and respond correctly when it is
closed as any other window of the app.
Only if all the other windows including any trayicons are closed then the
application will close with it.
The exception is given by the setting:
Application.MainWindow = Me
But in this case it would be no sense.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From sharon at 455.co.il  Tue Jan 11 14:46:54 2022
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:46:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
Message-ID: <20220111133837.M22180@455.co.il>

Hello

Is there any way to incorporate mixed right-to-left support in GTK or QT implementation

In the GTK documentation as well as in the QT documentation I see that they support for all their controls can be done RTL or LTR direction
To each control on its own

Thank you
On the investment a lot 

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 15:14:15 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:14:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
In-Reply-To: <20220111133837.M22180@455.co.il>
References: <20220111133837.M22180@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <2e53a4f3-74be-11f4-abea-fabb9e7f75e6@gmail.com>

Le 11/01/2022 ? 14:46, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> Hello
> 
> Is there any way to incorporate mixed right-to-left support in GTK or QT implementation
> 
> In the GTK documentation as well as in the QT documentation I see that they support for all their controls can be done RTL or LTR direction
> To each control on its own
> 
> Thank you
> On the investment a lot
> 

Can you give more details?

There is support for right-to-left language inside Gambas, but the 
behaviour of the controls depends on the native toolkit for native 
controls, and on the Gambas code for controls written in Gambas (which 
then can be fixed if there are problems).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From sharon at 455.co.il  Tue Jan 11 15:54:11 2022
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:54:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
In-Reply-To: <2e53a4f3-74be-11f4-abea-fabb9e7f75e6@gmail.com>
References: <20220111133837.M22180@455.co.il>
 <2e53a4f3-74be-11f4-abea-fabb9e7f75e6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20220111145353.M33678@455.co.il>

Hello

If I work on an environment that is right to left (Hebrew)
Suppose I put on the TEXTBOX control form
It puts it from right to left
And all the controls I put on the form are right to left

The problem:
1. It is very inconvenient to write software whose IDE is right to left
2. I need to put one control TEXTBOX that is behaving from right to left and another control that is behaving from left to right

My intention as there is an option in HTML on each control to decide if it is:

<DIR = RTL> or <DIR = LTR>

And in VisualStudio each control has a property called:
Control.RightToLeft

The thing is that in any software it is necessary to involve some of the controls from right to left and some from left to right

I hope I was able to explain the matter

Many thanks 

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
Sent: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:14:15 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT

> Le 11/01/2022 ? 14:46, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> > Hello
> > 
> > Is there any way to incorporate mixed right-to-left support in GTK or QT implementation
> > 
> > In the GTK documentation as well as in the QT documentation I see that they support for all their controls can be done RTL or LTR direction
> > To each control on its own
> > 
> > Thank you
> > On the investment a lot
> >
> 
> Can you give more details?
> 
> There is support for right-to-left language inside Gambas, but the 
> behaviour of the controls depends on the native toolkit for native 
> controls, and on the Gambas code for controls written in Gambas (which 
> then can be fixed if there are problems).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
------- End of Original Message -------


From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 16:06:06 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:06:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
In-Reply-To: <20220111145353.M33678@455.co.il>
References: <20220111133837.M22180@455.co.il>
 <2e53a4f3-74be-11f4-abea-fabb9e7f75e6@gmail.com>
 <20220111145353.M33678@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <7b1bc844-30b7-43ad-077a-8dbf086b6a7a@gmail.com>

Le 11/01/2022 ? 15:54, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> Hello
> 
> If I work on an environment that is right to left (Hebrew)
> Suppose I put on the TEXTBOX control form
> It puts it from right to left
> And all the controls I put on the form are right to left
> 
> The problem:
> 1. It is very inconvenient to write software whose IDE is right to left
> 2. I need to put one control TEXTBOX that is behaving from right to left and another control that is behaving from left to right
> 
> My intention as there is an option in HTML on each control to decide if it is:
> 
> <DIR = RTL> or <DIR = LTR>
> 
> And in VisualStudio each control has a property called:
> Control.RightToLeft
> 
> The thing is that in any software it is necessary to involve some of the controls from right to left and some from left to right
> 
> I hope I was able to explain the matter
> 
> Many thanks
> 

It's possible to implement a layout direction at the control level in 
both Qt and GTK+ components. It just requires a bit of work...

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From simonlebon54 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 11 18:20:50 2022
From: simonlebon54 at yahoo.com (Steve G)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 08:20:50 -0900
Subject: [Gambas-user] version not incrementing
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I use the version in the fedora repo only.

?Sent from TypeApp ?

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>Is there really a need to pull the gb.image when a script is using
>gb.eval.highlight? 
>
>This seems be be a new thing, scripter now requires this to be
>installed to function. but it does not seem to 
>do this. 
>
>Is this deliberate of , just a side effect of some other change? 
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>
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>From: Cristiano Guadagnino <criguada at gmail.com>
>To: Gambas Mailing List <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
>Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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>Il giorno lun 10 gen 2022 alle ore 15:19 Bruce Steers
><bsteers4 at gmail.com>
>ha scritto:
>
>>
>>> In less words :-)
>>>
>>> Non persistent means "closing = destroying".
>>>
>>> Persistent means "closing = hiding".
>>>
>>
>> Yes but that's kind of misleading.
>> to be clear to our friend here, if the app only has 1 window then
>closing
>> that window closes the app if it is persistent or not yes?.
>>
>>
>Exactly: this is misleading.
>This is exactly how I read the docs, so I thought that setting my main
>window as persistent it would not close when clicking on "X", but it
>would
>hide instead.
>If it is not so, I think the docs should be amended to clarify the
>concept.
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>From: bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com>
>To: Gambas Mailing List <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
>Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
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>On Mon, 2022-01-10 at 20:22 +0100, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>> On my laptop, a new install destroyed my Gambas.
>> 
>> As it seems, I once had installed 3.14 manually (make). Don't know if
>> it 
>> was removed properly. Then there was a 3.16 over it.
>> 
>> The repo is teams.
>> 
>> I removed 3.16 and wanted to make a proper reinstall, but each time I
>> try I get this message now:
>> 
>> Die folgenden Pakete haben unerf?llte Abh?ngigkeiten:
>> ??gambas3-runtime : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui aber 
>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>> ??????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-gui-opengl
>> ??????????????????? Kollidiert mit: gambas3-gb-jit aber 
>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>> ??gambas3-scripter : Kollidiert mit: gambas3-script aber 
>> 3.14.3-2ubuntu3.1 soll installiert werden
>> E: Probleme k?nnen nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben zur?ckgehaltene
>> defekte Pakete.
>> 
>> So to me it looks as if there are rests of the 3.14.3 install (with 
>> make) which cannot be removed by the packager. What can I do? I tried
>> "make uninstall", but it ran through without error message and
>> nothing 
>> changed.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help!
>> 
>> Rolf
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
>You need to rebuild your package manager database.
>apt list|grep gambas 
>should give you some clues as to what it thinks is installed
>
>b
>
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:59:52 +0100
>From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
>To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
>Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Version not incrementing proper
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>Le 10/01/2022 ? 19:25, Steve G via User a ?crit?:
>> This is a small yet annoying error that I have noticed in the new 
>> version. If I have my software as version 2.1.1. I create the
>executable 
>> the next version should be 2.1.2. However it seems to count by twos
>and 
>> it makes an executable version 2.1.3 instead. This Behavior seems
>rather 
>> consistent when we are Auto incrementing the version numbers.
>> 
>> Sent from TypeApp <http://www.typeapp.com/r>
>> 
>> 
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>> 
>
>It's normally fixed in the development version. Do you use it?
>
>-- 
>Beno?t Minisini
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:03:03 +0100
>From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
>To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
>Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] eval.highlight now pulls in gb.image?
>Message-ID: <7333d047-750c-9305-77fe-7fa606ff9f47 at gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
>Le 10/01/2022 ? 21:48, Brian G a ?crit?:
>> Is there really a need to pull the gb.image when a script is using 
>> gb.eval.highlight?
>> 
>> This seems be be a new thing, scripter now requires this to be
>installed 
>> to function. but it does not seem to
>> do this.
>> 
>> Is this deliberate of , just a side effect of some other change?
>> 
>> 
>> "Failure is the key to success;
>>  ?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
>> Brian G
>> 
>
>Good question. I don't remember why this dependency, strange...
>
>-- 
>Beno?t Minisini
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:06:34 +0100
>From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
>To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
>Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
>Message-ID: <ea045e0f-82e1-bfb3-d121-017d6845a249 at gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
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>Le 10/01/2022 ? 22:45, Cristiano Guadagnino a ?crit?:
>> Il giorno lun 10 gen 2022 alle ore 15:19 Bruce Steers 
>> <bsteers4 at gmail.com <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
>> 
>> 
>>         In less words :-)
>> 
>>         Non persistent means "closing = destroying".
>> 
>>         Persistent means "closing = hiding".
>> 
>> 
>>     Yes but that's kind of misleading.
>>     to be clear to our friend here, if the app only has 1 window then
>>     closing that window closes the app if it is persistent or not
>yes?.
>> 
>> 
>> Exactly: this is misleading.
>> This is exactly how I read the docs, so I thought that setting my
>main 
>> window as persistent it would not close when clicking on "X", but it 
>> would hide instead.
>> If it is not so, I think the?docs should be amended to clarify the
>concept.
>> 
>> Cris
>> 
>
>It's a different thing.
>
>GUI applications automatically quit when there have no opened windows 
>(persistent or not) or trayicons (or watched file descriptors) anymore.
>
>Because then the user has no way to interact with the program anymore, 
>so it seems a good idea to stop the program.
>
>You set the 'Persistent' property when you don't want to recreate your 
>window each time you use it, usually when it's a dialog, or a tool
>window.
>
>Regards,
>
>-- 
>Beno?t Minisini
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 19:02:53 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:02:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] version not incrementing
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Le 11/01/2022 ? 18:20, Steve G via User a ?crit?:
> I use the version in the fedora repo only.
> 

OK, so you must wait for the next release, and then wait for the next 
release to be packaged in fedora!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 19:42:20 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:42:20 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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On 1/11/22 08:20, Gianluigi wrote:
> 
> 
> Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 12:51 Cristiano Guadagnino <criguada at gmail.com <mailto:criguada at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
> 
>     I see that the English docs have been updated yesterday fixing this misunderstanding.
>     I'll update the Italian docs accordingly.
> 
> 
> Hi Lee,
> 
> there was a double 'the' in the wiki, but it seems to me that it is not exactly how it should be explained as my application 
> shows and that I attach again.
> The FMain can also be set as permanent and respond correctly when it is closed as any other window of the app.
> Only if all the other windows including any trayicons are closed then the application will close with it.
> The exception is given by the setting:
> Application.MainWindow = Me
> But in this case it would be no sense.
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi

I see what you mean. You are correct, and your example demonstrated it quite nicely.

Is the Doc accurate and more clear now?
http://gambaswiki.org/edit/comp/gb.qt4/window/persistent


-- 
Lee

From criguada at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 19:44:35 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:44:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 14:22 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
> Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 12:51 Cristiano Guadagnino <
> criguada at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>>
>> I see that the English docs have been updated yesterday fixing this
>> misunderstanding.
>> I'll update the Italian docs accordingly.
>>
>>
> Hi Lee,
>
> there was a double 'the' in the wiki, but it seems to me that it is not
> exactly how it should be explained as my application shows and that I
> attach again.
> The FMain can also be set as permanent and respond correctly when it is
> closed as any other window of the app.
> Only if all the other windows including any trayicons are closed then the
> application will close with it.
> The exception is given by the setting:
> Application.MainWindow = Me
> But in this case it would be no sense.
>
>
Hi Gianluigi,
you quoted my mail but then you wrote "Hi Lee", so I don't really know who
you're replying to.
Anyway, I do not really understand what you're trying to say, but I'll look
at the cose ASAP and I hope that will clarify things.

Cris
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From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:47:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 19:44 Cristiano Guadagnino <
criguada at gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
> Hi Gianluigi,
> you quoted my mail but then you wrote "Hi Lee", so I don't really know who
> you're replying to.
> Anyway, I do not really understand what you're trying to say, but I'll
> look at the cose ASAP and I hope that will clarify things.
>
> Cris
>

I see that Lee replied at the same time as my reply.
I'll let the English documentation settle before updating the Italian
version.

Cris
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From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:49:19 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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On 1/11/22 13:47, Cristiano Guadagnino wrote:
> I see that Lee replied at the same time as my reply.
> I'll let the English documentation settle before updating the Italian version.
> 

Do you think it is explained clearly now?


-- 
Lee

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 22:19:44 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:19:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 19:43 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On 1/11/22 08:20, Gianluigi wrote:
> >
> >
> > Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 12:51 Cristiano Guadagnino <
> criguada at gmail.com <mailto:criguada at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> >
> >
> >     I see that the English docs have been updated yesterday fixing this
> misunderstanding.
> >     I'll update the Italian docs accordingly.
> >
> >
> > Hi Lee,
> >
> > there was a double 'the' in the wiki, but it seems to me that it is not
> exactly how it should be explained as my application
> > shows and that I attach again.
> > The FMain can also be set as permanent and respond correctly when it is
> closed as any other window of the app.
> > Only if all the other windows including any trayicons are closed then
> the application will close with it.
> > The exception is given by the setting:
> > Application.MainWindow = Me
> > But in this case it would be no sense.
> >
> > Regards
> > Gianluigi
>
> I see what you mean. You are correct, and your example demonstrated it
> quite nicely.
>
> Is the Doc accurate and more clear now?
> http://gambaswiki.org/edit/comp/gb.qt4/window/persistent
>
>
> --
> Lee
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

Yes, great, so it's clear ?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 22:39:13 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:39:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 19:45 Cristiano Guadagnino <
criguada at gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
> Hi Gianluigi,
> you quoted my mail but then you wrote "Hi Lee", so I don't really know who
> you're replying to.
> Anyway, I do not really understand what you're trying to say, but I'll
> look at the cose ASAP and I hope that will clarify things.
>
> Cris
>
>
Hi Cris,

You're right sorry, but I have started to write to Lee and you, then I sent
it before completing the writing.
I thought it was clear anyway.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From criguada at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 00:30:42 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 00:30:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle ore 19:50 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
> Do you think it is explained clearly now?
>
>
Yes, thank you Lee.
Now that I had the chance to look at Gianluigi's code, I think your
documentation describes the functionality correctly.

Cris
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 00:54:59 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:24:59 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 13:42 -0500, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> 
> 
> Is the Doc accurate and more clear now?
> http://gambaswiki.org/edit/comp/gb.qt4/window/persistent
> 
> 
"GUI applications automatically quit when the only visible window is
closed whether or not it is set Persistent."

This is not necessarily true. The application will automatically close
(N.B. not quit) when the event loop is inactive. See
http://gambaswiki.org/edit/cat/eventloop

b



From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 01:34:24 2022
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 02:34:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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> This is not necessarily true. The application will automatically close
> (N.B. not quit) when the event loop is inactive. See
> http://gambaswiki.org/edit/cat/eventloop
>

Window keeps event loop active, but you can keep it active without a
windows.


Jussi
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 02:31:07 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:31:07 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Me.Persistent = True" does not work?
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On 1/11/22 18:54, bb wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 13:42 -0500, T Lee Davidson wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is the Doc accurate and more clear now?
>> http://gambaswiki.org/edit/comp/gb.qt4/window/persistent
>>
>>
> "GUI applications automatically quit when the only visible window is
> closed whether or not it is set Persistent."
> 
> This is not necessarily true. The application will automatically close
> (N.B. not quit) when the event loop is inactive. See
> http://gambaswiki.org/edit/cat/eventloop
> 
> b

I don't see on that page where it says the application will automatically close when the event loop is inactive.

Regarding the use of the word "quit", I used Beno?t's wording but changed "open window" to "visible window" since Gianluigi's 
example showed that to be the case (ie. two windows were open, but only one was visible).

If you think there's a better way to say it, please feel free to change it.


-- 
Lee

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Wed Jan 12 08:55:16 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:55:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Poppler PDF fitting in DocumentView
Message-ID: <cba1b4e1-a1ed-891d-12d6-e41ecbd46521@osnanet.de>

I have questions about the poppler library way of doing things.

Some time ago I got some code examples from Gianluigi, and now I tried 
one of them which seemed to be practical for me.

In a DocumentView a PDF shall be shown.

I think the answer lies in this SUB:

Public Sub DocumentView1_Draw(Page As Integer, Width As Integer, Height 
As Integer)

  Dim fRes As Float
  Dim himg As Image

  fRes = $hPdf.Resolution / 72
  himg = $hPdf[Page].Render(0, 0, Width / fRes, Height / fRes, 0, 
$hPdf.Resolution / fRes)
  Draw.Image(himg, 0, 0, Width, Height)

End

Where do I have to tweak these lines to fit the pages into the area of 
the DocumentView?

Another trial was tweaking the Zoom function:

Public Sub btnZoomIn_Click()

  Dim f As Float = DocumentView1.Zoom

  f = f / 2
  'f += 0.05
  'If f > 1.5 Then f = 1
  DocumentView1.Zoom = f
  DocumentView1.Count = $hPdf.Count
  DocumentView1.Refresh
  Wait

End

But this will just cut the areo on which the PDF is shown by half, the 
document is shown by half and becomes unsharp. Ok, now it fits, but this 
is not really the desired effect.

I add the code archive for those who want to test it.

Regards
Rolf
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 09:46:20 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 09:46:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Poppler PDF fitting in DocumentView
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References: <cba1b4e1-a1ed-891d-12d6-e41ecbd46521@osnanet.de>
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Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 08:56 Rolf-Werner Eilert <
rwe-sse at osnanet.de> ha scritto:

> I have questions about the poppler library way of doing things.
>
> Some time ago I got some code examples from Gianluigi, and now I tried
> one of them which seemed to be practical for me.
>
> In a DocumentView a PDF shall be shown.
> ...
>

Hi Rolf,

I didn't try your project but I think you should look carefully about the
properties of objects in FMain.form of my example.
You must learn how to use the property Arrangement, Expand etc.
You must learn to use the containers...

Regards
Gianluigi
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Wed Jan 12 10:26:05 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:26:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Poppler PDF fitting in DocumentView
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Am 12.01.22 um 09:46 schrieb Gianluigi:
> 
> 
> Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 08:56 Rolf-Werner Eilert 
> <rwe-sse at osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> ha scritto:
> 
>     I have questions about the poppler library way of doing things.
> 
>     Some time ago I got some code examples from Gianluigi, and now I tried
>     one of them which seemed to be practical for me.
> 
>     In a DocumentView a PDF shall be shown.
>     ...
> 
> 
> Hi Rolf,
> 
> I didn't try your project but I think you should look carefully about 
> the properties of objects in FMain.form of my example.
> You must learn how to use the property Arrangement, Expand etc.
> You must learn to use the containers...
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

This is not the point here, Gianluigi.

I tried the example with the ImageView as well. Same thing here.

Of course it is possible to adapt the view to the image, but trying to 
show the image in a smaller scale will just cut it.

I need this function to show a PDF in a collection of files, i. e. you 
have a dialog with a list of items you click on, and a preview will show 
its contents. So the preview area is of a fixed size, and the PDFs shown 
have to be scaled so they fit into it completely. In my case, the 
preview area even is square so it can show landscape PDFs as well.

The old version of this is with gb.PDF, just four lines do it:

   PDF.Open(druck.TempVerz() &/ CStr(VorschauName) & ".pdf")
   PDF.Zoom = 0.5
   Abbild = PDF[VorschauSeite].Image.Picture
   Vorschau.Picture = Abbild

I thought I could work with .Zoom in Poppler too, but it doesn't run 
like expected.

Regards
Rolf

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 10:42:05 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:42:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Poppler PDF fitting in DocumentView
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Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 10:27 Rolf-Werner Eilert <
rwe-sse at osnanet.de> ha scritto:

>
> This is not the point here, Gianluigi.
>
> I tried the example with the ImageView as well. Same thing here.
>
> Of course it is possible to adapt the view to the image, but trying to
> show the image in a smaller scale will just cut it.
>
> I need this function to show a PDF in a collection of files, i. e. you
> have a dialog with a list of items you click on, and a preview will show
> its contents. So the preview area is of a fixed size, and the PDFs shown
> have to be scaled so they fit into it completely. In my case, the
> preview area even is square so it can show landscape PDFs as well.
>
> The old version of this is with gb.PDF, just four lines do it:
>
>    PDF.Open(druck.TempVerz() &/ CStr(VorschauName) & ".pdf")
>    PDF.Zoom = 0.5
>    Abbild = PDF[VorschauSeite].Image.Picture
>    Vorschau.Picture = Abbild
>
> I thought I could work with .Zoom in Poppler too, but it doesn't run
> like expected.
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>
>
Apologizes, I had the doubt that I didn't understand the question (often
happens to me).
View this documentation if you can help you.
https://www.gambas-it.org/wiki/index.php?title=Codice_essenziale_per_mostrare_un_file_PDF

https://www.gambas-it.org/wiki/index.php?title=Convertire_una_pagina_di_un_file_PDF_in_una_immagine_con_le_risorse_del_Componente_gb.poppler
At this moment I have no time to look at your project

Regards
Gianluigi
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Wed Jan 12 11:51:36 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 11:51:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Poppler PDF fitting in DocumentView
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Am 12.01.22 um 10:42 schrieb Gianluigi:
> 
> 
> Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 10:27 Rolf-Werner Eilert 
> <rwe-sse at osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> ha scritto:
> 
> 
>     This is not the point here, Gianluigi.
> 
>     I tried the example with the ImageView as well. Same thing here.
> 
>     Of course it is possible to adapt the view to the image, but trying to
>     show the image in a smaller scale will just cut it.
> 
>     I need this function to show a PDF in a collection of files, i. e. you
>     have a dialog with a list of items you click on, and a preview will
>     show
>     its contents. So the preview area is of a fixed size, and the PDFs
>     shown
>     have to be scaled so they fit into it completely. In my case, the
>     preview area even is square so it can show landscape PDFs as well.
> 
>     The old version of this is with gb.PDF, just four lines do it:
> 
>      ? ?PDF.Open(druck.TempVerz() &/ CStr(VorschauName) & ".pdf")
>      ? ?PDF.Zoom = 0.5
>      ? ?Abbild = PDF[VorschauSeite].Image.Picture
>      ? ?Vorschau.Picture = Abbild
> 
>     I thought I could work with .Zoom in Poppler too, but it doesn't run
>     like expected.
> 
>     Regards
>     Rolf
> 
> 
> Apologizes, I had the doubt that I didn't understand the question (often 
> happens to me).
> View this documentation if you can help you.
> https://www.gambas-it.org/wiki/index.php?title=Codice_essenziale_per_mostrare_un_file_PDF 
> <https://www.gambas-it.org/wiki/index.php?title=Codice_essenziale_per_mostrare_un_file_PDF>
> 
> https://www.gambas-it.org/wiki/index.php?title=Convertire_una_pagina_di_un_file_PDF_in_una_immagine_con_le_risorse_del_Componente_gb.poppler 
> <https://www.gambas-it.org/wiki/index.php?title=Convertire_una_pagina_di_un_file_PDF_in_una_immagine_con_le_risorse_del_Componente_gb.poppler>
> At this moment I have no time to look at your project
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 


Yes, this was the source for my trial :)


See this text from the help:


Static Sub Image ( Image As Image, X As Integer, Y As Integer [ , Width 
As Integer, Height As Integer, SrcX As Integer, SrcY As Integer, 
SrcWidth As Integer, SrcHeight As Integer ] )

Draws an Image, or part of it.
If the Width and Height parameters are specified, then the image is 
scaled to fit the specified dimensions.
If SrcX, SrcY, SrcWidth and SrcHeight are specified, the only this part 
of the image is drawn.


My impression is that Width and Height react the way SrcWidth and 
SrcHeight are supposed to do.

Regards
Rolf

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Wed Jan 12 16:03:27 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:03:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Message.Question default button changed?
Message-ID: <8dfe31dd-bb60-5ee8-b822-c587ef343259@osnanet.de>

When editing something in one of my Gambas programs and leaving the edit 
and being asked "Do you want to save?" "Save" "Cancel" I automatically 
pressed the Return key. But it resulted on "Cancel", i. e. the second key.

I was totally confused. As I am not used to this order, so I would think 
this is due to the new Gambas version. Was this changed in the last months?

As far as I can remember, the buttons would default on the first one in 
the row. There is no indication in the help.

Regards
Rolf

From criguada at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 16:18:51 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:18:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Message.Question default button changed?
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Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 16:04 Rolf-Werner Eilert <
rwe-sse at osnanet.de> ha scritto:

>
> As far as I can remember, the buttons would default on the first one in
> the row. There is no indication in the help.
>
>
Actually, there is: https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/message
It says "The last button is always assumed to be the cancel and the default
button".
I don't know if this has changed recently, it's been like this since I
remember looking at it.

Cris
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 16:24:21 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:24:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Message.Question default button changed?
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Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 16:20 Cristiano Guadagnino <
criguada at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 16:04 Rolf-Werner Eilert <
> rwe-sse at osnanet.de> ha scritto:
>
>>
>> As far as I can remember, the buttons would default on the first one in
>> the row. There is no indication in the help.
>>
>>
> Actually, there is: https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/message
> It says "The last button is always assumed to be the cancel and the
> default button".
> I don't know if this has changed recently, it's been like this since I
> remember looking at it.
>
> Cris
>

No, it changed recently and I don't like it at all, but that's how it was
decided by the boss :-P

Regards
Gianluigi
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Wed Jan 12 16:45:09 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:45:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Message.Question default button changed?
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Am 12.01.22 um 16:24 schrieb Gianluigi:
> 
> 
> Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 16:20 Cristiano Guadagnino 
> <criguada at gmail.com <mailto:criguada at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
>     Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 16:04 Rolf-Werner Eilert
>     <rwe-sse at osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> ha scritto:
> 
> 
>         As far as I can remember, the buttons would default on the first
>         one in
>         the row. There is no indication in the help.
> 
> 
>     Actually, there is: https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/message
>     <https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/message>
>     It says "The last button is always assumed to be the cancel and the
>     default button".
>     I don't know if this has changed recently, it's been like this since
>     I remember looking at it.
> 
>     Cris
> 
> 
> No, it changed recently and I don't like it at all, but that's how it 
> was decided by the boss :-P
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Aargh - so I was right.

Benoit, please change it back, it means I have to rearrange all my 
message boxes. Otherwise I would have to reverse polarity of my fingers :-)

CANCEL IS NEVER THE DEFAULT - and it hasn't been in any GUI I have ever 
known for 30 years. When used to key operation, every user would expect 
Return to be on "OK", "YES", "Save" or whatever, and Esc on "Cancel", 
"No", "Abort".

If you want to keep it, why not offer a Boolean which changes the order 
so the programmer can choose?

The only way to save me here would be making my own message dialog which 
sets the first button to Default and the second one to Cancel.

Regards
Rolf

From criguada at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 16:50:29 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:50:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Message.Question default button changed?
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Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 16:25 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
> No, it changed recently and I don't like it at all, but that's how it was
> decided by the boss :-P
>
>
I must admit that I don't like it either, but I don't know the thought
process that was behind this decision so I'll accept it as it is ?

Cris
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Wed Jan 12 16:59:20 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:59:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Message.Question default button changed?
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Am 12.01.22 um 16:50 schrieb Cristiano Guadagnino:
> Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 16:25 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bagonergi at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
> 
>     No, it changed recently and I don't like it at all, but that's how
>     it was decided by the boss :-P
> 
> 
> I must admit that I don't like it either, but I don't know the thought 
> process that was behind this decision so I'll accept it as it is??
> 
> Cris
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

As far as I remember, the cases where "OK" and "Cancel" were swapped 
have been extremely rare. Back in the old days of DOS, when the first 
dialogs popped up, this was introduced as the standard. And Return 
defaulted to OK.

I can remember that Borland changed it in their GUIs, but they left 
Return on OK too.

In some Gnome or GTK programs like Thunderbird, there is "Save" on the 
far right, but also defaulting to Return. And each time it is extremely 
confusing to me.

So why not leaving the choice to the programmer, and offering the option 
of setting the default button to the first or last, just according to taste?

Regards
Rolf

From criguada at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 17:03:58 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:03:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Message.Question default button changed?
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Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 17:00 Rolf-Werner Eilert <
rwe-sse at osnanet.de> ha scritto:

>
> So why not leaving the choice to the programmer, and offering the option
> of setting the default button to the first or last, just according to
> taste?
>
>
I am used to other environments where the programmer can choose both the
default and the cancel buttons (based on flags), and that would be my
preferred option too.

Cris
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 17:11:05 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:11:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Message.Question default button changed?
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Le 12/01/2022 ? 16:45, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit?:
>>
>> No, it changed recently and I don't like it at all, but that's how it 
>> was decided by the boss :-P
>>
>> Regards
>> Gianluigi
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
> 
> Aargh - so I was right.
> 
> Benoit, please change it back, it means I have to rearrange all my 
> message boxes. Otherwise I would have to reverse polarity of my fingers :-)
> 
> CANCEL IS NEVER THE DEFAULT - and it hasn't been in any GUI I have ever 
> known for 30 years. When used to key operation, every user would expect 
> Return to be on "OK", "YES", "Save" or whatever, and Esc on "Cancel", 
> "No", "Abort".
> 
> If you want to keep it, why not offer a Boolean which changes the order 
> so the programmer can choose?
> 
> The only way to save me here would be making my own message dialog which 
> sets the first button to Default and the second one to Cancel.
> 
> Regards
> Rolf
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

In last commit I added a Message.DefaultButton property that is TRUE by 
default. It makes the first button the default one.

If you set that property to FALSE, you get the previous behaviour, where 
the cancel button is the default one.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 18:26:24 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:26:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Poppler PDF fitting in DocumentView
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Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 11:52 Rolf-Werner Eilert <
rwe-sse at osnanet.de> ha scritto:

>
> Yes, this was the source for my trial :)
>
> ...
>

The point is are your PDF files all A4? If yes the vuott code with
ImageView to use as per the project I sent you personally should work fine.
Divide by 3 instead of multiplying by 2.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Wed Jan 12 18:48:48 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:48:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Message.Question default button changed?
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Am 12.01.22 um 17:11 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 12/01/2022 ? 16:45, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit?:
>>>
>>> No, it changed recently and I don't like it at all, but that's how it 
>>> was decided by the boss :-P
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Gianluigi
>>>
>>>
>>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>>
>>
>> Aargh - so I was right.
>>
>> Benoit, please change it back, it means I have to rearrange all my 
>> message boxes. Otherwise I would have to reverse polarity of my 
>> fingers :-)
>>
>> CANCEL IS NEVER THE DEFAULT - and it hasn't been in any GUI I have 
>> ever known for 30 years. When used to key operation, every user would 
>> expect Return to be on "OK", "YES", "Save" or whatever, and Esc on 
>> "Cancel", "No", "Abort".
>>
>> If you want to keep it, why not offer a Boolean which changes the 
>> order so the programmer can choose?
>>
>> The only way to save me here would be making my own message dialog 
>> which sets the first button to Default and the second one to Cancel.
>>
>> Regards
>> Rolf
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> In last commit I added a Message.DefaultButton property that is TRUE by 
> default. It makes the first button the default one.
> 
> If you set that property to FALSE, you get the previous behaviour, where 
> the cancel button is the default one.
> 
> Regards,
> 

Thank you Benoit! Looking forward to it...

Regards
Rolf


From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Wed Jan 12 18:49:39 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:49:39 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Poppler PDF fitting in DocumentView
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Am 12.01.22 um 18:26 schrieb Gianluigi:
> 
> 
> Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 11:52 Rolf-Werner Eilert 
> <rwe-sse at osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> ha scritto:
> 
> 
>     Yes, this was the source for my trial :)
> 
>     ...
> 
> 
> The point is are your PDF files all A4? If yes the vuott code with 
> ImageView to use as per the project I sent you personally should work fine.
> Divide by 3 instead of multiplying by 2.
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Yes, at least 99 % of them are A4. That's why it ran fine that way in 
the old version.

Regards
Rolf


From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Jan 12 18:57:30 2022
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cross distribution update madness
In-Reply-To: <6994c7140f385424691681a9a53707d8d8b0707c.camel@gmail.com>
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Am 10.01.22 um 22:48 schrieb bb:

> You need to rebuild your package manager database.
> apt list|grep gambas
> should give you some clues as to what it thinks is installed

Find all Gambas packages installed:

> dpkg -l | grep gambas3 | awk '{print $2}' | tr '\n' ' '

Remove all packages:

> sudo apt remove $(dpkg -l | grep gambas3 | awk '{print $2}' | tr '\n' ' ')

After that Gambas can be installed as usual.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Thu Jan 13 10:12:17 2022
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 10:12:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Poppler PDF fitting in DocumentView
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Am 12.01.22 um 18:26 schrieb Gianluigi:
> 
> 
> Il giorno mer 12 gen 2022 alle ore 11:52 Rolf-Werner Eilert 
> <rwe-sse at osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> ha scritto:
> 
> 
>     Yes, this was the source for my trial :)
> 
>     ...
> 
> 
> The point is are your PDF files all A4? If yes the vuott code with 
> ImageView to use as per the project I sent you personally should work fine.
> Divide by 3 instead of multiplying by 2.
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Yes, that works fine, thank you so much! Now I know how to do it. It 
isn't so much different from the old version, so should be easy to adapt.

Regards
Rolf


From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jan 13 17:39:08 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 17:39:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Poppler PDF fitting in DocumentView
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Il giorno gio 13 gen 2022 alle ore 10:13 Rolf-Werner Eilert <
rwe-sse at osnanet.de> ha scritto:

>
> Yes, that works fine, thank you so much! Now I know how to do it. It
> isn't so much different from the old version, so should be easy to adapt.
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>

Today, I played around with your request.
I attach the result, I hope it is useful
I could not do better :-/

Regards
Gianluigi
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Thu Jan 13 23:07:13 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:07:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Linux Shell - GSH
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With Gambas Script gsh it is possible to use brace and file, cli Result  expansion in your scripts.
https://github.com/justlostintime/GambasShell/wiki

It has some useful features as a shell for day to day functions, as well as
providing an immersive Gambas environment to work from.
   
Used for iteration:
   for each i as integer in $"01..10"
      print i;;
   next
   >1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
 
Used For iteration as text:
   for each i as string in $"01..10"
      print i;;
   next
   >01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10

Used for iteration with text and name generation
   print $"a{01..10}".join(" ")
   >a01 a02 a03 a04 a05 a06 a07 a08 a09 a10

Generate some pre-named file:   
   touch $"a{01..10}"
   ls a*
   >a01 a02 a03 a04 a05 a06 a07 a08 a09 a10
   
Generate even more files:
   touch $"a{01..10}.py"
   touch $"a{01..10}.bat"
   touch $"a{01..10}.bin"
   ls
   > a01      a01.bin  a02 a02.bin  a03 a03.bin  a04 a04.bin  a05
    a05.bin  a06      a06.bin  a07      a07.bin  a08      a08.bin  a09  
    a09.bin  a10      a10.bin a01.bat  a01.py   a02.bat  a02.py   a03.bat  
    a03.py   a04.bat  a04.py   a05.bat  a05.py   a06.bat  a06.py   a07.bat  a07.py 
    a08.bat  a08.py   a09.bat  a09.py   a10.bat  a10.py   

Print the list of selected files:
   echo $"*.{bat,py}"
   >a01.bat a02.bat a03.bat a04.bat a05.bat a06.bat a07.bat a08.bat a09.bat a10.bat a01.py a02.py a03.py a04.py a05.py a06.py a07.py a08.py a09.py a10.py


Expand the result from the cli call which also contains a file expansion:
  for each s as string in $`ls -l $"*.{bat,py}"`
     print s
  next




"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jan 2, 2022, at 1:09 PM, Brian G brian at westwoodsvcs.com wrote:

> Playground help is also supported in the shell
> 
>> help loop
> Please select Choice using number
> 0) Event Loop
> 1) LOOP
> 2) Loop Control Structures
> 3) loops_break
> 0
> 
> NAME
> event loop
> The event loop is an internal function of the Gambas interpreter that waits for
> system events and dispatch them as they arrive.
> These system events can come from the user interface, from a child process, from
> a timer... They are usually followed by a normal Gambas.
> 
> 
> See also
>    * Event_Loop
> 
>> help loop
> Please select Choice using number
> 0) Event Loop
> 1) LOOP
> 2) Loop Control Structures
> 3) loops_break
> 2
> NAME
> Loop Control Structures
> BREAK             Leaves a loop immediately.
> CONTINUE          Jumps to the next occurence of a loop.
> DO ... LOOP       Infinite loop.
> FOR ... NEXT      Counter loop.
> FOR_EACH ... NEXT Enumeration loop.
> REPEAT ... UNTIL  Loop with an exit test at the end.
> WHILE ... WEND    Loop with an exit test at the beginning.
> 
>>
> 
> 
>> playground
> Listing Playground Examples
> Process Response
>  1) 100 doors                                                   28) Exceptions
>  .....
>  2) ABC Problem                                                 29) Execute a
>  system command     .....
> 
> ........ List Everything in playground ......
> 
> Enter the Number of the example you would like to work with 0 or Q to quit? > 2
> 
> Function loaded it may be executed by entering : abc_problem
> or edited by entering : edit abc_problem
>> List abc_problem
> Public Sub abc_problem()
> Dim sCheck As String[] = ["A", "BARK", "BOOK", "TREAT", "COMMON", "SQUAD",
> "CONFUSE"]
> Dim sBlock As String[] = ["BO", "XK", "DQ", "CP", "NA", "GT", "RE", "TG", "QD",
> "FS", "JW", "HU", "VI", "AN", "OB", "ER", "FS", "LY", "PC", "ZM"]
> Dim sList As New String[]
> Dim siCount, siLoop As Short
> Dim sTemp, sAnswer As String
> 
> For Each sTemp In sCheck
>  sAnswer = ""
>  sList = sBlock.Copy()
>  For siCount = 1 To Len(sTemp)
>    For siLoop = 0 To sList.Max
>      If InStr(sList[siLoop], Mid(sTemp, siCount, 1)) Then
>        sList.Extract(siLoop, 1)
>        sAnswer &= Mid(sTemp, siCount, 1)
>        Break
>      Endif
>    Next
>  Next
> 
> If sAnswer = sTemp Then
>   Print sTemp & " - True"
> Else
>   Print sTemp & " - False"
> End If
> Next
> 
> End
> 
>> abc_problem
> A - True
> BARK - True
> BOOK - False
> TREAT - True
> COMMON - False
> SQUAD - True
> CONFUSE - True
> 
>> edit abc_problem
> 
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Failure is the key to success;
> each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
> 
> ----- On Dec 30, 2021, at 8:34 AM, Brian G brian at westwoodsvcs.com wrote:
> 
>> In the shell it is possible to do things such as
>> 
>> if `ls -l | tr [a-z] [A-Z] > $a` = 0 then
>>    print $a
>> else
>>    echo the command failed
>> endif
>> 
>> from the command line or in a script
>> 
>> or shortcuts such as
>> 
>> tcb Thisfile                       ' Copy this file to the clipboard
>> 
>> !fcb > "thisfile"                  ' copy clipboard to a file
>> !fcb | tc [a-z] [A-Z] | less       ' pass clipboard contents to a process
>> !fcb > $a                          ' clipboard To a global variable for use in a
>> script
>> fromclipboard                      ' just print clipboard to the terminal
>> 
>> browse                             ' Opens a filebrowser in the current
>> directory with no wait
>> browse /                           ' Opens the file  browser at the root
>> directory
>> 
>> google "New Socks"                 ' Opens the default internet browser search
>> page
>> 
>> for each s as string in $"a{b..f}/filename" ' auto file name expansion and
>> enumeration
>>    touch {s}
>> next
>> 
>> 
>> "Failure is the key to success;
>> each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
>> Brian G
>> 
>> ----- On Dec 29, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Martin Belmonte mbelmonte at belmotek.net wrote:
>> 
>>> El 29/12/21 a las 23:14, Brian G escribi?:
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>> Over the past couple of years I have developed a Gambas interactive shell, It is
>>>> finally at a point where I have been using as my daily driver at work and home.
>>>> In my environment it replaces bash for the most part.
>>>> 
>>>> It can be found here [ https://github.com/justlostintime/GambasShell/wiki |
>>>> https://github.com/justlostintime/GambasShell/wiki ]
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone finds it interesting I would love some feedback.
>>> Great, congratulations. I see there is a pdf manual and quite a lot of
>>> documentation, good point.
>>> I am now trying to make a CAD with gambas, so I don't know if I will be
>>> able to test but you never know.
>>> Mart?n.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>> 
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Jan 14 11:12:10 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 11:12:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Poppler PDF fitting in DocumentView
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFZVmm8pCCq8cg1qt68Lf90xs++6XPX=FY7Bdn_9sUWTEg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cba1b4e1-a1ed-891d-12d6-e41ecbd46521@osnanet.de>
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Il giorno gio 13 gen 2022 alle ore 17:39 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
>
> Il giorno gio 13 gen 2022 alle ore 10:13 Rolf-Werner Eilert <
> rwe-sse at osnanet.de> ha scritto:
>
>>
>> Yes, that works fine, thank you so much! Now I know how to do it. It
>> isn't so much different from the old version, so should be easy to adapt.
>>
>> Regards
>> Rolf
>>
>
> Today, I played around with your request.
> I attach the result, I hope it is useful
> I could not do better :-/
>

sorry there is an error 'hImage = hImage.Stretch(w, h)' instead of
'hImage.Stretch(w, h)'

Regards
Gianluigi
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From mtitouinfo at yahoo.fr  Fri Jan 14 16:21:01 2022
From: mtitouinfo at yahoo.fr (Manu)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 16:21:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] No Graphical sudo program found
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFY0fF7A2G10itKHf4KPLodY6MzUVc9cbfLxG1H=J4j7qA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFY0fF7A2G10itKHf4KPLodY6MzUVc9cbfLxG1H=J4j7qA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <983c6e8d-26a0-989f-5085-51bbc86fc2a2@yahoo.fr>

hello

via command-line application,

  belote:
  Print "sudo fdisk -l ; your password ??"
  Input motdepasse
  Shell Subst("echo &1 | sudo -S fdisk -l &>/dev/stdout", motdepasse) To 
sortie
  If sortie Match "incorrect" Then
       Print "ko", ess
       If ess = 3 Then
       Print "3 attempts maxi. end"
       Goto fin
       End If
       Inc ess
       Goto belote

   Else
     Print sortie
  Endif

(modify according to shell language)

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Fri Jan 14 21:07:49 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 12:07:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] No Graphical sudo program found
In-Reply-To: <983c6e8d-26a0-989f-5085-51bbc86fc2a2@yahoo.fr>
References: <CAJ2rqFY0fF7A2G10itKHf4KPLodY6MzUVc9cbfLxG1H=J4j7qA@mail.gmail.com>
 <983c6e8d-26a0-989f-5085-51bbc86fc2a2@yahoo.fr>
Message-ID: <1961404043.23101.1642190869265.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

I have included a graphic gambas3 script to read a password bellow

in your main code that launches the sudo do the following I am using 'apt update' as an example:


 exec ["sudo", "-A", "apt", "update"] with ["SUDO_ASKPASS=/home/brian/bin/getpassword"] wait 
 ...........................................................^^^^^ this should be full path to getpassword

Hope this helps!


Here is a gambas3 script to just get the password and print it to the stdout:

Copy this section to a file called getpassword in your ~/bin directory or anywhere it is accessible by your app:

Save between the  cut --------------------------------------- to the file getpassword
cut--------------------------------------------
#!/usr/bin/env gbs3
#Script Title="Get Password"
#Script Startup="FMain"
#Script Version="0.0.1"
Use "gb.image","gb.gui","gb.form"
class FMain
' Gambas class file
  Public Sub Button1_Click()

    Print PasswordEntry.text
    FMain.Close()

  End
End class

form FMain
# Gambas Form File 3.0

{ Form Form
  MoveScaled(0,0,124,20)
  { Label1 Label
    MoveScaled(3,6,20,8)
    Text = ("Enter Password :")
  }
  { !PasswordEntry TextBox
    MoveScaled(26,5,74,11)
    #Public = True
    ToolTip = ("Enter your Password here")
    Password = True
  }
  { Button1 Button
    MoveScaled(103,5,17,11)
    Text = ("OK")
  }
}

End form

cut -------------------------------------------------------

"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jan 14, 2022, at 7:21 AM, Gambas mailing list user at lists.gambas-basic.org wrote:

> hello
> 
> via command-line application,
> 
>  belote:
>  Print "sudo fdisk -l ; your password ??"
>  Input motdepasse
>  Shell Subst("echo &1 | sudo -S fdisk -l &>/dev/stdout", motdepasse) To
> sortie
>  If sortie Match "incorrect" Then
>       Print "ko", ess
>       If ess = 3 Then
>       Print "3 attempts maxi. end"
>       Goto fin
>       End If
>       Inc ess
>       Goto belote
> 
>   Else
>     Print sortie
>  Endif
> 
> (modify according to shell language)
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Fri Jan 14 22:12:07 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 13:12:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] No Graphical sudo program found
In-Reply-To: <1961404043.23101.1642190869265.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFY0fF7A2G10itKHf4KPLodY6MzUVc9cbfLxG1H=J4j7qA@mail.gmail.com>
 <983c6e8d-26a0-989f-5085-51bbc86fc2a2@yahoo.fr>
 <1961404043.23101.1642190869265.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
Message-ID: <2099461710.23140.1642194727384.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Sorry forgot to check for errors

exec ["sudo", "-A", "apt", "update"] with ["SUDO_ASKPASS=/home/brian/bin/getpassword"] wait
if Process.lastvalue = 1 then
   error.raise("Sudo Failed")
endif

f it is not 1 then the value returned is from the called app

"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jan 14, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Brian G brian at westwoodsvcs.com wrote:

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 00:27:54 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 23:27:54 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] DBus and a circular reference error
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAJ41QaROzpy4oS8TMqMH7EUZJad76fQLBOdUAdse0CnQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.

ALL my applications using DBus put put a "Circular references" error on
exit...


*gbx3 [204304]: warning: circular references detected:gbx3:     2
DBusConnection*


I figured it might by my coding but i followed info on the wiki and also
noticed the DBusExplorer app on the farm that's got Ben and Fabs names on
it also gives the same error.

So i'm guessing a gb.dbus bug.

I've played with the gb.dbus to figure out the issue but i'm out of my
depth.

Respects.

BruceS
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 00:34:36 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 00:34:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] DBus and a circular reference error
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAJ41QaROzpy4oS8TMqMH7EUZJad76fQLBOdUAdse0CnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAJ41QaROzpy4oS8TMqMH7EUZJad76fQLBOdUAdse0CnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <80ed5b12-6bab-abed-a9a5-793a2fb538b4@gmail.com>

Le 15/01/2022 ? 00:27, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> Hi.
> 
> ALL my applications using DBus put put a "Circular references" error on 
> exit...
> 
> *gbx3 [204304]: warning: circular references detected:
> gbx3: ? ? 2 DBusConnection*
> 
> 
> I figured it might by my coding but i followed info on the wiki and also 
> noticed the DBusExplorer app on the farm that's got Ben and Fabs names 
> on it also gives the same error.
> 
> So i'm guessing a gb.dbus bug.
> 
> I've played with the gb.dbus to figure out the issue but i'm out of my 
> depth.
> 
> Respects.
> 
> BruceS
> 

I noticed that bug, but didn't find yet what was not freed.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 03:45:56 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 02:45:56 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] DBus and a circular reference error
In-Reply-To: <80ed5b12-6bab-abed-a9a5-793a2fb538b4@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAJ41QaROzpy4oS8TMqMH7EUZJad76fQLBOdUAdse0CnQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCDWPhFhbK=77extX3eZ7dTALybpOCesNJC71XBm7Bo-aw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 23:35, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 15/01/2022 ? 00:27, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > Hi.
> >
> > ALL my applications using DBus put put a "Circular references" error on
> > exit...
> >
> > *gbx3 [204304]: warning: circular references detected:
> > gbx3:     2 DBusConnection*
> >
> >
> > I figured it might by my coding but i followed info on the wiki and also
> > noticed the DBusExplorer app on the farm that's got Ben and Fabs names
> > on it also gives the same error.
> >
> > So i'm guessing a gb.dbus bug.
> >
> > I've played with the gb.dbus to figure out the issue but i'm out of my
> > depth.
> >
> > Respects.
> >
> > BruceS
> >
>
> I noticed that bug, but didn't find yet what was not freed.
>

Well thank you for looking.
I had a play , I added some _exit() subs and freed some things but i don't
really understand all that is happening with it being part-C/part gambas.

at best i was "fumbling in the dark" .

Merci infiniment
BruceS
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From criguada at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 20:39:19 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:39:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
Message-ID: <CANnPoNYG7A500TU4a1Bz=1ovqexCgSpHxBWzbcyi7j9v481Arw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I have a program where the user can choose among some items to monitor from
a menu.
The program allows you to monitor more than one item at the same time, so
the menu represents the items as check boxes. But every time you click on
an item the menu closes, so you have to open it again and select the second
item, and so on.
Is it possible to keep the menu open somehow, instead of having it close at
every click?

Thank you in advance
Cris
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 20:52:14 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 19:52:14 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
In-Reply-To: <CANnPoNYG7A500TU4a1Bz=1ovqexCgSpHxBWzbcyi7j9v481Arw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANnPoNYG7A500TU4a1Bz=1ovqexCgSpHxBWzbcyi7j9v481Arw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDksLtpsr8_mRbNEo_gOpVDhZO_LPNO++kHgx1UGQVU5A@mail.gmail.com>

I do not have time to try myself but have you tried Stop Event in the _Hide
event?
something along the lines of this...



*Private bDoNotHide as Boolean*

*Public Sub MyMenu_Show()*


*  bDoNotHide = True*

*End*

*Public Sub MyMenu_Hide()*


*  If bDoNotHide Then  Stop Event*

*End*

*Public Sub MyMenu_Click()*


*  If Last.Name = "mnuCloseMenu" Then bDoNotHide = False*

*End*

Something like that



You can set a normal menu item (mnuCloseMenu) to be the option to close
after selection and make that toggle bDoNotClose

Hope that helps
BruceS


On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 19:40, Cristiano Guadagnino <criguada at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a program where the user can choose among some items to monitor
> from a menu.
> The program allows you to monitor more than one item at the same time, so
> the menu represents the items as check boxes. But every time you click on
> an item the menu closes, so you have to open it again and select the second
> item, and so on.
> Is it possible to keep the menu open somehow, instead of having it close
> at every click?
>
> Thank you in advance
> Cris
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 20:55:19 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 19:55:19 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDksLtpsr8_mRbNEo_gOpVDhZO_LPNO++kHgx1UGQVU5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANnPoNYG7A500TU4a1Bz=1ovqexCgSpHxBWzbcyi7j9v481Arw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 19:52, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I do not have time to try myself but have you tried Stop Event in the
> _Hide event?
> something along the lines of this...
>
>
>
> *Private bDoNotHide as Boolean*
>
> *Public Sub MyMenu_Show()*
>
>
> *  bDoNotHide = True*
>
> *End*
>
> *Public Sub MyMenu_Hide()*
>
>
> *  If bDoNotHide Then  Stop Event*
>
> *End*
>
> *Public Sub MyMenu_Click()*
>
>
> *  If Last.Name = "mnuCloseMenu" Then bDoNotHide = False*
>
> *End*
>
> Something like that
>

Sorry that last method should probably be for a separate close menu item
*Public Sub MyCloseMenuItem_Click()*


* bDoNotHide = False*

*End*

BruceS
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From criguada at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 20:59:34 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:59:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDksLtpsr8_mRbNEo_gOpVDhZO_LPNO++kHgx1UGQVU5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANnPoNYG7A500TU4a1Bz=1ovqexCgSpHxBWzbcyi7j9v481Arw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDksLtpsr8_mRbNEo_gOpVDhZO_LPNO++kHgx1UGQVU5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANnPoNb2r2f3hyHeFAhszD3qNDSX9E=fGFObHB-UFh-_KKbbGg@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno sab 15 gen 2022 alle ore 20:53 Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> I do not have time to try myself but have you tried Stop Event in the
> _Hide event?
> something along the lines of this...
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

Thank you Bruce for your quick and thorough reply.
I had the same idea, but exploring its feasibility unfortunately I noticed
that the Hide event does not fire :-( (this is a sub-submenu, but I don't
think it makes any difference).
So I'm out of ideas.

Cris
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 21:02:10 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 15:02:10 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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On 1/15/22 14:39, Cristiano Guadagnino wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a program where the user can choose among some items to monitor from a menu.
> The program allows you to monitor more than one item at the same time, so the menu represents the items as check boxes. But 
> every time you click on an item the menu closes, so you have to open it again and select the second item, and so on.
> Is it possible to keep the menu open somehow, instead of having it close at every click?
> 
> Thank you in advance
> Cris
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Perhaps use something different than a menu like maybe a ListView on a separate form, the visibility of which you can control.


-- 
Lee

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Jan 15 21:00:31 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 12:00:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] dbus explorer updated for current introspection XML
Message-ID: <307465891.23326.1642276831005.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

I have updated the Dbus Explorer example app, to work correctly again, It looks like the xml format has changed slightly from the introspection call, the name is no longer first for properties. It now looks for the name entry specifically. 

Have also extended the property information with the read or read/write information. And set return formats. 
Have also changed how the signal information given to correctly report the format of the sent signal message. 

Not sure how to update the version on the Farm, It reports already published, of course. 

Maybe some can let me know? 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 22:10:31 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 21:10:31 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 19:55, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 19:52, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I do not have time to try myself but have you tried Stop Event in the
>> _Hide event?
>> something along the lines of this...
>>
>
I had time..
It's not so easy.

I attach an example where i got the menu to pop open and keep re-popping
open at the same place if user clicks a toggle item.

Then i found it only works on QT not GTK and it only works if it's a popup
menu not from the main menu bar,. lol

A simple popup form with a bunch of checkboxes would be better i think.

I think some sort of menu option for toggles would be cool.  something like
a Menu.DoNotClose property to let a toggle/radio menu not close on click
event?

Respects
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 22:42:40 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 16:42:40 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] dbus explorer updated for current introspection
 XML
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On 1/15/22 15:00, Brian G wrote:
> I have updated the Dbus Explorer example app, to work correctly again, It looks like the xml format has changed slightly from 
> the introspection call, the name is no longer first for properties. It now looks for the name entry specifically.
> 
> Have also extended the property information with the read or read/write information. And set return formats.
> Have also changed how the signal information given to correctly report the format of the sent signal message.
> 
> Not sure how to update the version on the Farm, It reports already published, of course.
> 
> Maybe some can let me know?
> 
> "Failure is the key to success;
>  ?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G

I don't know how to update a published Farm program either. Perhaps either give it a different name or version number, or attach 
it to a mail and let Beno?t update it.


-- 
Lee

From criguada at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 22:58:11 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 22:58:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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Il giorno sab 15 gen 2022 alle ore 21:03 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
> Perhaps use something different than a menu like maybe a ListView on a
> separate form, the visibility of which you can control.
>

You're correct Lee that this would be better served by something other than
a menu, but the application is a port (well, a re-implementation actually)
of a Windows program developed with VB.NET and I'd like to be able to keep
the same L&F as the old app to keep the users happy.
Thank you for the suggestion though.
Cris
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From criguada at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 22:59:36 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 22:59:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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Il giorno sab 15 gen 2022 alle ore 22:11 Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> I had time..
> It's not so easy.
>

Thank you for taking the time, Bruce.
I'll study your example and I'll report back to you.

Cris
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 23:01:18 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 23:01:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] dbus explorer updated for current introspection
 XML
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Le 15/01/2022 ? 22:42, T Lee Davidson a ?crit?:
> On 1/15/22 15:00, Brian G wrote:
>> I have updated the Dbus Explorer example app, to work correctly again, 
>> It looks like the xml format has changed slightly from the 
>> introspection call, the name is no longer first for properties. It now 
>> looks for the name entry specifically.
>>
>> Have also extended the property information with the read or 
>> read/write information. And set return formats.
>> Have also changed how the signal information given to correctly report 
>> the format of the sent signal message.
>>
>> Not sure how to update the version on the Farm, It reports already 
>> published, of course.
>>
>> Maybe some can let me know?
>>
>> "Failure is the key to success;
>> ??each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
>> Brian G
> 
> I don't know how to update a published Farm program either. Perhaps 
> either give it a different name or version number, or attach it to a 
> mail and let Beno?t update it.
> 

The source code of the DBusExplorer is located in the Gambas source 
tree. Update it there, and then I will republish it.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Jan 15 23:04:01 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 14:04:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] dbus explorer updated for current introspection
 XML
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OK will do

"Failure is the key to success; 
?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jan 15, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Beno?t Minisini g4mba5 at gmail.com wrote:

> Le 15/01/2022 ? 22:42, T Lee Davidson a ?crit?:
>> On 1/15/22 15:00, Brian G wrote:
>>> I have updated the Dbus Explorer example app, to work correctly again,
>>> It looks like the xml format has changed slightly from the
>>> introspection call, the name is no longer first for properties. It now
>>> looks for the name entry specifically.
>>>
>>> Have also extended the property information with the read or
>>> read/write information. And set return formats.
>>> Have also changed how the signal information given to correctly report
>>> the format of the sent signal message.
>>>
>>> Not sure how to update the version on the Farm, It reports already
>>> published, of course.
>>>
>>> Maybe some can let me know?
>>>
>>> "Failure is the key to success;
>>> ??each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
>>> Brian G
>> 
>> I don't know how to update a published Farm program either. Perhaps
>> either give it a different name or version number, or attach it to a
>> mail and let Beno?t update it.
>> 
> 
> The source code of the DBusExplorer is located in the Gambas source
> tree. Update it there, and then I will republish it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 23:11:13 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 22:11:13 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] dbus explorer updated for current introspection
 XML
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 22:06, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:

> OK will do
>
> "Failure is the key to success;
>  each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
>

Does this stop the circular reference error is is that a different bug?

Cheers Mr G :)

BruceS
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 23:16:27 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 17:16:27 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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On 1/15/22 16:58, Cristiano Guadagnino wrote:
> Il giorno sab 15 gen 2022 alle ore 21:03 T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com <mailto:t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
> 
>     Perhaps use something different than a menu like maybe a ListView on a separate form, the visibility of which you can control.
> 
> 
> You're correct Lee that this would be better served by something other than a menu, but the application is a port (well, a 
> re-implementation actually) of a Windows program developed with VB.NET <http://VB.NET> and I'd like to be able to keep the same 
> L&F as the old app to keep the users happy.
> Thank you for the suggestion though.
> Cris

Okay, I understand.

Well, if trapping the Hide event doesn't work well, perhaps you could trap the Click event. In that case, though, you would 
likely need to emulate the click behavior prior to stopping the event.


-- 
Lee

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 23:36:07 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 23:36:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] DBus and a circular reference error
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Le 15/01/2022 ? 03:45, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> Well thank you for looking.
> I had a play , I added some _exit() subs and freed some things but i 
> don't really understand all that is happening with it being part-C/part 
> gambas.
> 
> at best i was "fumbling in the dark" .
> 
> 
>       Merci infiniment
> 
> BruceS
> 

The bug should have been fixed in commit 
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/683465e7a86137ccad5ad1026a70e73bc46f5085.

It was not really a bug, it was just that the connections to the D-Bus 
buses were freed after the interpreter checks for unreleased object 
references, not before.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Jan 16 00:07:45 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 15:07:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] dbus explorer updated for current introspection
 XML
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Done! 

Merge request made. 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 

----- On Jan 15, 2022, at 2:11 PM, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote: 

> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 22:06, Brian G < [ mailto:brian at westwoodsvcs.com |
> brian at westwoodsvcs.com ] > wrote:

>> OK will do

>> "Failure is the key to success;
>> each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba
>> Brian G

> Does this stop the circular reference error is is that a different bug?

> Cheers Mr G :)

> BruceS

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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Jan 16 03:26:45 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 18:26:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dbus unique name seems incorrect
Message-ID: <500456545.23539.1642300005708.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

In the db.dbus module 

the dbus.unique is false to start but seems to try and create a unique name 

When set to true it appears to create a non unique name. 

And as far as a unique name goes, it must start with a : for the system to recognize it as unique... 

I think, as I am having some difficulty calling some interfaces that require a unique name being rejected as the : is missing from the beginning.... 

Well maybe I just don't understand it correctly.. 

Anyone have any Ideas? 


"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 
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From roberto.premoli at tiscali.it  Sun Jan 16 12:30:24 2022
From: roberto.premoli at tiscali.it (roberto.premoli at tiscali.it)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 12:30:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] develop for pinephone: windows exceeds the screen size
Message-ID: <2db38718e3dee728ca4531b6dc76a802@tiscali.it>

  
Hi all, here the situation. 
hardware: pinephone distro: mobian
(debian bookworm)
gambas: 3.16.2-whatever (the last available release
updated yesterday)

gambas starts correctly but the initial window (and
also "tip of the day" advise) is too much larger than display (720x1440)
so it make impossible to reach the menu because it "fall" outside the
left border of menu: in short, the left, right, top and bottom border of
the window "falls" ouside the phisical border of the screen. It will be
nice - say better: necessary - that the initial screen detect the size
of display and resize to not exceed his size.

My wish goal is to
develop directly on pinephone using keyboard and mouse connected to the
"docking station" of pinephone. I know it is uncofortable but at least
it garantee me i can develop everywere i am without the need of a
external screen and/or a vnc connection. More, it garantee me that the
final program will act as espected (font size, ecc).

Thanks. 
Roberto 



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From criguada at gmail.com  Sun Jan 16 13:26:46 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 13:26:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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Il giorno sab 15 gen 2022 alle ore 22:59 Cristiano Guadagnino <
criguada at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Il giorno sab 15 gen 2022 alle ore 22:11 Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>> I had time..
>> It's not so easy.
>>
>
> Thank you for taking the time, Bruce.
> I'll study your example and I'll report back to you.
>
>
Thank you once more Bruce, your work around is very interesting. I had the
same idea but did not succeed in implementing it.
The problem is that my menu is a sub-submenu, and it is attached to a tray
icon. I was not able to make your example work in these conditions. As I
said earlier, the Hide event is not triggered.

I even tried embedding a Listbox/Listview control in a submenu, but - since
the Menu object is not a container - it is not possible.

I'll try to come up with a different UI for the program, one that will not
disorient my old users too much.

However, I have a proposal for Benoit: when a menu is created with all
children of type Toggle, and all toggles are joined into one (or more)
control group(s), do not close the menu upon clicking on a toggle. Do you
think it may be a sensible choice? In this case the menu should be closed
by clicking elsewhere or pressing ESC.

Cris
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From criguada at gmail.com  Sun Jan 16 13:28:37 2022
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 13:28:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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Il giorno sab 15 gen 2022 alle ore 23:17 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
> Well, if trapping the Hide event doesn't work well, perhaps you could trap
> the Click event. In that case, though, you would
> likely need to emulate the click behavior prior to stopping the event.
>

This was actually a great suggestion Lee!
I tried implementing it, but even if I stop the Click event, the menu is
nonetheless closed :-(

Cris
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Jan 16 17:53:38 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 17:53:38 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
In-Reply-To: <CANnPoNarqZUu7=uBpd5ybE4N+UoSPTXt4wkZTWyMJBRAAdUiZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANnPoNYG7A500TU4a1Bz=1ovqexCgSpHxBWzbcyi7j9v481Arw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi All,

It seem to be doing something wrong here, but what?

Is it a glitch in my code or the positioning of the popup window?

Because the measurements I pass to the popup look correct

See attached project

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Jan 16 19:16:46 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 19:16:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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Il giorno dom 16 gen 2022 alle ore 17:53 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
> Hi All,
>
> It seem to be doing something wrong here, but what?
>
> Is it a glitch in my code or the positioning of the popup window?
>
> Because the measurements I pass to the popup look correct
>
> See attached project
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>

Done! Now work :-)

Gianluigi
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 16 21:02:46 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 21:02:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] develop for pinephone: windows exceeds the screen
 size
In-Reply-To: <2db38718e3dee728ca4531b6dc76a802@tiscali.it>
References: <2db38718e3dee728ca4531b6dc76a802@tiscali.it>
Message-ID: <8f85f805-72b4-360b-800f-f8df576d76c5@gmail.com>

Le 16/01/2022 ? 12:30, roberto.premoli at tiscali.it a ?crit?:
> Hi all, here the situation.
> hardware: pinephone
> distro: mobian (debian bookworm)
> gambas: 3.16.2-whatever (the last available release updated yesterday)
> 
> gambas starts correctly but the initial window (and also "tip of the 
> day" advise) is too much larger than display (720x1440) so it make 
> impossible to reach the menu because it "fall" outside the left border 
> of menu: in short, the left, right, top and bottom border of the window 
> "falls" ouside the phisical border of the screen.
> It will be nice - say better: necessary -? that the initial screen 
> detect the size of display and resize to not exceed his size.
> 
> My wish goal is to develop directly on pinephone using keyboard and 
> mouse connected to the "docking station" of pinephone. I know it is 
> uncofortable but at least it garantee me i can develop everywere i am 
> without the need of a external screen and/or a vnc connection. More, it 
> garantee me that the final program will act as espected (font size, ecc).
> Thanks.
> Roberto
> 

Yes, Gambas was not designed to run on such small screens.

I'm currently thinking about the implementation of "distant debugging 
through ssh", so that you can develop on a desktop PC, and run / debug 
your program directly on the PinePhone through ssh.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 16 22:05:43 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 22:05:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dbus unique name seems incorrect
In-Reply-To: <500456545.23539.1642300005708.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <500456545.23539.1642300005708.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
Message-ID: <07542a8e-cd68-5e6a-8653-9c02f40a657c@gmail.com>

Le 16/01/2022 ? 03:26, Brian G a ?crit?:
> In the db.dbus module
> 
> the dbus.unique is false to start but seems to try and create a unique name
> 
> When set to true it appears to create a non unique name.
> 
> And as far as a unique name goes, it must start with a : for the system 
> to recognize it as unique...

Where did you see that?

Setting DBus.Unique changes just the name used for registering to the D-Bus.

If not set, the name includes the application name and the process PID. 
If set, just the application name, so that two instances of the same 
application will use the same name.

It's just a trick, and D-Bus is not concerned by it.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Jan 16 23:24:45 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 23:24:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFZNLUdZAWnCbHV8GaiSkmxbfMCLJFFOFdP3x35U9-gKFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANnPoNYG7A500TU4a1Bz=1ovqexCgSpHxBWzbcyi7j9v481Arw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CANnPoNYF2M7vDE3XW4D_6XAwzbMydffzOG=_2NusuixLaYdKLA@mail.gmail.com>
 <6da5512e-2cdd-26c8-be30-dd62137b4ddf@gmail.com>
 <CANnPoNarqZUu7=uBpd5ybE4N+UoSPTXt4wkZTWyMJBRAAdUiZQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Cris,

so I really like it, if refined, it could become a component

Regards
Gianluigi
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Jan 16 23:26:52 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 14:26:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dbus unique name seems incorrect
In-Reply-To: <07542a8e-cd68-5e6a-8653-9c02f40a657c@gmail.com>
References: <500456545.23539.1642300005708.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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Hi Beno?t,

  When working with the policykit1, some of the methods require a unique name. By the DBus standard a unique name must start with a colon. Normally the Hello method would return a unique id, but that crashes when I try to us it.

When I try to pass the dbus name to the Kit I get an invalid name error. Upon research the name must start with a : to be unique.

When working with the PolicyKit1:

  Dim Proxy As New DBusProxy(App, "/org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority", "org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority")
  Dim System_Bus_Name As String = DBus.name
  Dim subject As Variant = ["system-bus-name", ["name": System_Bus_Name]]
  Dim action_id As String = "org.freedesktop.policykit.exec"
  Dim Details As Variant = New Collection
  Dim flags As Integer = 1
  Dim cancellation_id As String = ""
  Dim sresult As Variant = Proxy.CheckAuthorization(subject, action_id, details, flags, cancellation_id)
            org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed:Error getting subject: Error Parsing system-bus-name subject: 'org.gambas.Auth-537384' is not a unique name.

  Would it be possible to change how the naming works?

"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Beno?t Minisini g4mba5 at gmail.com wrote:

> Le 16/01/2022 ? 03:26, Brian G a ?crit?:
>> In the db.dbus module
>> 
>> the dbus.unique is false to start but seems to try and create a unique name
>> 
>> When set to true it appears to create a non unique name.
>> 
>> And as far as a unique name goes, it must start with a : for the system
>> to recognize it as unique...
> 
> Where did you see that?
> 
> Setting DBus.Unique changes just the name used for registering to the D-Bus.
> 
> If not set, the name includes the application name and the process PID.
> If set, just the application name, so that two instances of the same
> application will use the same name.
> 
> It's just a trick, and D-Bus is not concerned by it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 16 23:47:30 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 22:47:30 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] DBus and a circular reference error
In-Reply-To: <24857a68-d16c-5416-63ad-28dbfbd2ad02@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAJ41QaROzpy4oS8TMqMH7EUZJad76fQLBOdUAdse0CnQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 22:37, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 15/01/2022 ? 03:45, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> > Well thank you for looking.
> > I had a play , I added some _exit() subs and freed some things but i
> > don't really understand all that is happening with it being part-C/part
> > gambas.
> >
> > at best i was "fumbling in the dark" .
> >
> >
> >       Merci infiniment
> >
> > BruceS
> >
>
> The bug should have been fixed in commit
>
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/683465e7a86137ccad5ad1026a70e73bc46f5085
> .
>
> It was not really a bug, it was just that the connections to the D-Bus
> buses were freed after the interpreter checks for unreleased object
> references, not before.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>

Cool thanks Ben.

awesome, nice clean exits again :) yay :)
much obliged good sir :)

BruceS
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From roberto.premoli at tiscali.it  Mon Jan 17 07:03:07 2022
From: roberto.premoli at tiscali.it (roberto.premoli at tiscali.it)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 07:03:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] develop for pinephone: windows exceeds the screen
 size
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References: <2db38718e3dee728ca4531b6dc76a802@tiscali.it>
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Il 16.01.2022 21:02 Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:

> Le 16/01/2022 ? 12:30, roberto.premoli at tiscali.it [1]a ?crit :
>
>> Hi all, here the situation. hardware: pinephone distro: mobian 
>> (debian
>> bookworm) gambas: 3.16.2-whatever (the last available release 
>> updated
>> yesterday) gambas starts correctly but the initial window (and also
>> "tip of the day" advise) is too much larger than display (720x1440) 
>> so
>> it make impossible to reach the menu because it "fall" outside the 
>> left
>> border of menu: in short, the left, right, top and bottom border of 
>> the
>> window "falls" ouside the phisical border of the screen. It will be
>> nice - say better: necessary - that the initial screen detect the 
>> size
>> of display and resize to not exceed his size. My wish goal is to
>> develop directly on pinephone using keyboard and mouse connected to 
>> the
>> "docking station" of pinephone. I know it is uncofortable but at 
>> least
>> it garantee me i can develop everywere i am without the need of a
>> external screen and/or a vnc connection. More, it garantee me that 
>> the
>> final program will act as espected (font size, ecc). Thanks. Roberto
>
> Yes, Gambas was not designed to run on such small screens.
>
> I'm currently thinking about the implementation of "distant debugging
> through ssh", so that you can develop on a desktop PC, and run / 
> debug
> your program directly on the PinePhone through ssh.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- Beno?t Minisini ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette 
> [2]

Mr Minisini,

I think it will be better (if it does not mean to much code effort on 
your side)
to make gambas's window "resizable" to auto addapt to screen's size.
Never the less, everything that make me possible to use my preferred 
IDE on
pinephone is wellcomed. So I wait for that ssh implementation: do you 
have already
a schedule about the implementation of that feature?

Merci,
Roberto


Con Tiscali Mobile Smart 70 hai 70 GB in 4G, minuti illimitati e 100 
SMS a soli 7,99? al mese http://tisca.li/Smart70



From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 09:51:18 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:51:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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Il giorno dom 16 gen 2022 alle ore 23:24 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
> Hi Cris,
>
> so I really like it, if refined, it could become a component
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>

There is a bug in the calculation of $iMenuStart in the Sub _new

This code : $iMenuStart += (iScale * nContMenu)

It should be replaced with this one:

  i += 1
  $iMenuStart += (iScale * i)

Sorry
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 10:05:47 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 10:05:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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Il giorno lun 17 gen 2022 alle ore 09:51 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
>
> Il giorno dom 16 gen 2022 alle ore 23:24 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>>
>> Hi Cris,
>>
>> so I really like it, if refined, it could become a component
>>
>> Regards
>> Gianluigi
>>
>
> There is a bug in the calculation of $iMenuStart in the Sub _new
>
> This code : $iMenuStart += (iScale * nContMenu)
>
> It should be replaced with this one:
>
>   i += 1
>   $iMenuStart += (iScale * i)
>
> Sorry
> Gianluigi
>

Correction:

If i = 0 Then
    i = 1
  Else
    i += 2
  Endif
  $iMenuStart += (iScale * i)

Sorry * i
Gianluigi
P.S. It is clear that I have not understood how the upstream distance is
calculated. ;-D
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 11:19:19 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:19:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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Il giorno lun 17 gen 2022 alle ore 10:05 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
> P.S. It is clear that I have not understood how the upstream distance is
> calculated. ;-D
>
>
Hi Benoit,

can you kindly help me figure out how to calculate the width of the menu
rectangle.

It seems to start after a Desktop.Scale + the width given by the menu item
+ What?

My last attempt is this (see attached project):

space = Desktop.Scale

I add the first space + 2 spaces for each menu item, however the further I
go the more the rectangle (and popup) moves to the right.

Thanks for your attention

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 21:02:07 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 20:02:07 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 at 10:20, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Il giorno lun 17 gen 2022 alle ore 10:05 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>>
>> P.S. It is clear that I have not understood how the upstream distance is
>> calculated. ;-D
>>
>>
> Hi Benoit,
>
> can you kindly help me figure out how to calculate the width of the menu
> rectangle.
>
> It seems to start after a Desktop.Scale + the width given by the menu item
> + What?
>
> My last attempt is this (see attached project):
>
> space = Desktop.Scale
>
> I add the first space + 2 spaces for each menu item, however the further I
> go the more the rectangle (and popup) moves to the right.
>
> Thanks for your attention
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>

You get the box dimensions in ThreeStateMenu_Draw()
You get TextWidth()

width should be something like..
$hGrid.Padding + iBoxWidth + $hGrid.Padding + iTextLen + $hGrid.Padding

Respects
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 21:09:57 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 20:09:57 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBXQZ=tXDLc4J9jsiYjizZd4NFMrL78e55ztEP8EON9ow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANnPoNYG7A500TU4a1Bz=1ovqexCgSpHxBWzbcyi7j9v481Arw@mail.gmail.com>
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even better...

  $hPopup.W = $hGrid.Columns[0].W + $hGrid.Columns[1].W + ($hGrid.Padding *
3)

Is that what you mean?

Respects
BruceS


On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 at 20:02, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 at 10:20, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Il giorno lun 17 gen 2022 alle ore 10:05 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>>
>>> P.S. It is clear that I have not understood how the upstream distance is
>>> calculated. ;-D
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Benoit,
>>
>> can you kindly help me figure out how to calculate the width of the menu
>> rectangle.
>>
>> It seems to start after a Desktop.Scale + the width given by the menu
>> item + What?
>>
>> My last attempt is this (see attached project):
>>
>> space = Desktop.Scale
>>
>> I add the first space + 2 spaces for each menu item, however the further
>> I go the more the rectangle (and popup) moves to the right.
>>
>> Thanks for your attention
>>
>> Regards
>> Gianluigi
>>
>
> You get the box dimensions in ThreeStateMenu_Draw()
> You get TextWidth()
>
> width should be something like..
> $hGrid.Padding + iBoxWidth + $hGrid.Padding + iTextLen + $hGrid.Padding
>
> Respects
> BruceS
>
>
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 23:24:51 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:24:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Keeping a menu open?
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Il giorno lun 17 gen 2022 alle ore 21:11 Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> even better...
>
>   $hPopup.W = $hGrid.Columns[0].W + $hGrid.Columns[1].W + ($hGrid.Padding
> * 3)
>
> Is that what you mean?
>
> Respects
> BruceS
>
>
Thanks,

but I wasn't referring to that, however I lost interest.
I post this latest effort that in Ubuntu also works with gtk libraries.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Wed Jan 19 20:19:38 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 11:19:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dbus unique name seems incorrect
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Message-ID: <1981656216.24354.1642619978376.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Has anyone else experienced this?

"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jan 16, 2022, at 2:26 PM, Brian G brian at westwoodsvcs.com wrote:

> Hi Beno?t,
> 
>  When working with the policykit1, some of the methods require a unique name. By
>  the DBus standard a unique name must start with a colon. Normally the Hello
>  method would return a unique id, but that crashes when I try to us it.
> 
> When I try to pass the dbus name to the Kit I get an invalid name error. Upon
> research the name must start with a : to be unique.
> 
> When working with the PolicyKit1:
> 
>  Dim Proxy As New DBusProxy(App, "/org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority",
>  "org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority")
>  Dim System_Bus_Name As String = DBus.name
>  Dim subject As Variant = ["system-bus-name", ["name": System_Bus_Name]]
>  Dim action_id As String = "org.freedesktop.policykit.exec"
>  Dim Details As Variant = New Collection
>  Dim flags As Integer = 1
>  Dim cancellation_id As String = ""
>  Dim sresult As Variant = Proxy.CheckAuthorization(subject, action_id, details,
>  flags, cancellation_id)
>            org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed:Error getting subject: Error Parsing
>            system-bus-name subject: 'org.gambas.Auth-537384' is not a unique name.
> 
>  Would it be possible to change how the naming works?
> 
> "Failure is the key to success;
> each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
> 
> ----- On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Beno?t Minisini g4mba5 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Le 16/01/2022 ? 03:26, Brian G a ?crit?:
>>> In the db.dbus module
>>> 
>>> the dbus.unique is false to start but seems to try and create a unique name
>>> 
>>> When set to true it appears to create a non unique name.
>>> 
>>> And as far as a unique name goes, it must start with a : for the system
>>> to recognize it as unique...
>> 
>> Where did you see that?
>> 
>> Setting DBus.Unique changes just the name used for registering to the D-Bus.
>> 
>> If not set, the name includes the application name and the process PID.
>> If set, just the application name, so that two instances of the same
>> application will use the same name.
>> 
>> It's just a trick, and D-Bus is not concerned by it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>> 
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From hasanmerkit at outlook.com  Wed Jan 19 23:12:55 2022
From: hasanmerkit at outlook.com (Hasan Merkit)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 22:12:55 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Turkish Language
Message-ID: <AM0PR06MB4098B0C5B373E78A032FAD82A5599@AM0PR06MB4098.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

I would like to help you to correct incorrect and incomplete translations in Turkish. I'll follow it regularly and I'll send the .po file via the mail system. My only expectation is that my name will be put on the interpreter list. I will be waiting for your positive response. Thank you.
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 19 23:35:35 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 23:35:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Turkish Language
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Le 19/01/2022 ? 23:12, Hasan Merkit a ?crit?:
> I would like to help you to correct incorrect and incomplete 
> translations in Turkish. I'll follow it regularly and I'll send the .po 
> file via the mail system. My only expectation is that my name will be 
> put on the interpreter list. I will be waiting for your positive 
> response. Thank you.
> 

The better way to do the translation is by working with git and making a 
merge request (there are many components in the Gambas source tree that 
require translation, not just the IDE).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 06:00:11 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 05:00:11 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDR6wv2pLRvk2iu3YJpDhkM+67gacwSxsacAiF3NciD+g@mail.gmail.com>

You know how like Pluma has the really handy "External Tools" feature that
lets you run any script and input the result into the document.
Or just run a script on the document text.
Many uses, very handy.

Well i've added it to gambas :-\

Check this post out where there's a little info on it, a link to the gitlab
branch and a clip of it in action...
https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1270
(Benoit's going to cringe at the code :) lol)

Non-perfect code aside I'm going to find this very useful for some custom
functions :)

Benoit, you should so very much do this with gambas.
Then there would be a million things we could get our gambas's to do, the
biggest plus being that you would not have to :)

Respects
BruceS
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 12:44:07 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 12:44:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dbus unique name seems incorrect
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Le 16/01/2022 ? 23:26, Brian G a ?crit?:
> Hi Beno?t,
> 
>    When working with the policykit1, some of the methods require a unique name. By the DBus standard a unique name must start with a colon. Normally the Hello method would return a unique id, but that crashes when I try to us it.
> 
> When I try to pass the dbus name to the Kit I get an invalid name error. Upon research the name must start with a : to be unique.
> 
> When working with the PolicyKit1:
> 
>    Dim Proxy As New DBusProxy(App, "/org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority", "org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority")
>    Dim System_Bus_Name As String = DBus.name
>    Dim subject As Variant = ["system-bus-name", ["name": System_Bus_Name]]
>    Dim action_id As String = "org.freedesktop.policykit.exec"
>    Dim Details As Variant = New Collection
>    Dim flags As Integer = 1
>    Dim cancellation_id As String = ""
>    Dim sresult As Variant = Proxy.CheckAuthorization(subject, action_id, details, flags, cancellation_id)
>              org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed:Error getting subject: Error Parsing system-bus-name subject: 'org.gambas.Auth-537384' is not a unique name.
> 
>    Would it be possible to change how the naming works?
> 
> "Failure is the key to success;
>   each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
> 

I didn't see that in the D-Bus documentation. Either I missed it, either 
it's a PolicyKit thing.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 12:46:49 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 12:46:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dbus unique name seems incorrect
In-Reply-To: <b42bb5bf-7c92-40b5-711f-bc301ccbf0de@gmail.com>
References: <500456545.23539.1642300005708.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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 <1124642175.23741.1642372012472.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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Message-ID: <9c56eac8-8ce2-9e63-df34-7da5fbd775e4@gmail.com>

Le 20/01/2022 ? 12:44, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
> 
> I didn't see that in the D-Bus documentation. Either I missed it, either 
> it's a PolicyKit thing.
> 

Anyway, you can set the DBus.Name property before doing any other DBus 
call, to choose the name you want.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Thu Jan 20 19:50:05 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 10:50:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dbus unique name seems incorrect
In-Reply-To: <9c56eac8-8ce2-9e63-df34-7da5fbd775e4@gmail.com>
References: <500456545.23539.1642300005708.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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 <1124642175.23741.1642372012472.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
 <b42bb5bf-7c92-40b5-711f-bc301ccbf0de@gmail.com>
 <9c56eac8-8ce2-9e63-df34-7da5fbd775e4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1405518864.24446.1642704605614.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Hi, yes I checked that but the filter in the db.dbus does not allow : it changes it to .

I did try, Then I looked at the code.

I believe the way things are setup that unique names would conflict with the use of system:// maybe?

Anyway I can update the gb.dbus to allow the unique name as defined in the spec.. 

If that would be ok.

"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jan 20, 2022, at 11:46 AM, Beno?t Minisini g4mba5 at gmail.com wrote:

> Le 20/01/2022 ? 12:44, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
>> 
>> I didn't see that in the D-Bus documentation. Either I missed it, either
>> it's a PolicyKit thing.
>> 
> 
> Anyway, you can set the DBus.Name property before doing any other DBus
> call, to choose the name you want.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 22:25:47 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 22:25:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dbus unique name seems incorrect
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Le 20/01/2022 ? 19:50, Brian G a ?crit?:
> Hi, yes I checked that but the filter in the db.dbus does not allow : it changes it to .
> 
> I did try, Then I looked at the code.
> 
> I believe the way things are setup that unique names would conflict with the use of system:// maybe?
> 
> Anyway I can update the gb.dbus to allow the unique name as defined in the spec..
> 
> If that would be ok.
> 

No it won't.

I think you are mistaking the name your application chooses to register 
to a D-Bus bus with the internal unique name attributed by the D-Bus bus.

This is the later that starts with ':' and that is necessarily unique.

The DBus.Unique property is not related to that. It just tells that you 
want your application to be launched once, which implies some specific 
options when registering the custom application name, and other specific 
code in the 'gb.dbus' component.

Regards,

-- 
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 22:36:07 2022
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Le 20/01/2022 ? 22:25, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 20/01/2022 ? 19:50, Brian G a ?crit?:
>> Hi, yes I checked that but the filter in the db.dbus does not allow : 
>> it changes it to .
>>
>> I did try, Then I looked at the code.
>>
>> I believe the way things are setup that unique names would conflict 
>> with the use of system:// maybe?
>>
>> Anyway I can update the gb.dbus to allow the unique name as defined in 
>> the spec..
>>
>> If that would be ok.
>>
> 
> No it won't.
> 
> I think you are mistaking the name your application chooses to register 
> to a D-Bus bus with the internal unique name attributed by the D-Bus bus.
> 
> This is the later that starts with ':' and that is necessarily unique.
> 
> The DBus.Unique property is not related to that. It just tells that you 
> want your application to be launched once, which implies some specific 
> options when registering the custom application name, and other specific 
> code in the 'gb.dbus' component.
> 
> Regards,
> 

If you need the internal unique name, you can get it with the 
undocumented property 'DBusConnection._Name'. For example, if you use 
the system bus, it's 'DBus.System._Name'.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 23:27:58 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 22:27:58 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dbus unique name seems incorrect
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My 2 bits worth Brian, not even sure if it's related but,   i had issues
with DBus.Unique when i added a SystemTray object.

The Systemtray initialized DBus before i tried to set the name so it was
too late.
i fixed it by setting the DBus name and unique flag in the classes _new()
or _init() methods.

So if your app has any DBus objects be aware of that.

All the best.

BruceS


On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 19:20, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:

> Has anyone else experienced this?
>
> "Failure is the key to success;
>  each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
>
> ----- On Jan 16, 2022, at 2:26 PM, Brian G brian at westwoodsvcs.com wrote:
>
> > Hi Beno?t,
> >
> >  When working with the policykit1, some of the methods require a unique
> name. By
> >  the DBus standard a unique name must start with a colon. Normally the
> Hello
> >  method would return a unique id, but that crashes when I try to us it.
> >
> > When I try to pass the dbus name to the Kit I get an invalid name error.
> Upon
> > research the name must start with a : to be unique.
> >
> > When working with the PolicyKit1:
> >
> >  Dim Proxy As New DBusProxy(App, "/org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority",
> >  "org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority")
> >  Dim System_Bus_Name As String = DBus.name
> >  Dim subject As Variant = ["system-bus-name", ["name": System_Bus_Name]]
> >  Dim action_id As String = "org.freedesktop.policykit.exec"
> >  Dim Details As Variant = New Collection
> >  Dim flags As Integer = 1
> >  Dim cancellation_id As String = ""
> >  Dim sresult As Variant = Proxy.CheckAuthorization(subject, action_id,
> details,
> >  flags, cancellation_id)
> >            org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed:Error getting
> subject: Error Parsing
> >            system-bus-name subject: 'org.gambas.Auth-537384' is not a
> unique name.
> >
> >  Would it be possible to change how the naming works?
> >
> > "Failure is the key to success;
> > each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> > Brian G
> >
> > ----- On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Beno?t Minisini g4mba5 at gmail.com
> wrote:
> >
> >> Le 16/01/2022 ? 03:26, Brian G a ?crit :
> >>> In the db.dbus module
> >>>
> >>> the dbus.unique is false to start but seems to try and create a unique
> name
> >>>
> >>> When set to true it appears to create a non unique name.
> >>>
> >>> And as far as a unique name goes, it must start with a : for the system
> >>> to recognize it as unique...
> >>
> >> Where did you see that?
> >>
> >> Setting DBus.Unique changes just the name used for registering to the
> D-Bus.
> >>
> >> If not set, the name includes the application name and the process PID.
> >> If set, just the application name, so that two instances of the same
> >> application will use the same name.
> >>
> >> It's just a trick, and D-Bus is not concerned by it.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> --
> >> Beno?t Minisini
> >>
> >> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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I will give it a try thank you Benoit
--
Thanks
Brian G Thursday, 20 January 2022, 01:37PM -08:00 from Beno?t Minisini  g4mba5 at gmail.com :

>Le 20/01/2022 ? 22:25, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 20/01/2022 ? 19:50, Brian G a ?crit?:
>> Hi, yes I checked that but the filter in the db.dbus does not allow : 
>> it changes it to .
>>
>> I did try, Then I looked at the code.
>>
>> I believe the way things are setup that unique names would conflict 
>> with the use of system:// maybe?
>>
>> Anyway I can update the gb.dbus to allow the unique name as defined in 
>> the spec..
>>
>> If that would be ok.
>>
>
> No it won't.
>
> I think you are mistaking the name your application chooses to register 
> to a D-Bus bus with the internal unique name attributed by the D-Bus bus.
>
> This is the later that starts with ':' and that is necessarily unique.
>
> The DBus.Unique property is not related to that. It just tells that you 
> want your application to be launched once, which implies some specific 
> options when registering the custom application name, and other specific 
> code in the 'gb.dbus' component.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>If you need the internal unique name, you can get it with the 
>undocumented property 'DBusConnection._Name'. For example, if you use 
>the system bus, it's 'DBus.System._Name'.
>
>Regards,
>
>-- 
>Beno?t Minisini
>
>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Jan 21 14:27:11 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 14:27:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] New namespace support
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Since my only previous experience has been with VBA can you explain to me
what this means, ex.

[start code]
' Gambas class file

Export As Gianluigi:CTextBox

Inherits TextBox

Event Click

Public Sub _new()

  Dim hObs As Observer

  hObs = New Observer(Me) As "TextBox"

End

Public Sub TextBox_MouseDown()

  Raise Click

End
[end code]

would be ok?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 22 16:43:08 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:43:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
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Le 11/01/2022 ? 14:46, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> Hello
> 
> Is there any way to incorporate mixed right-to-left support in GTK or QT implementation
> 
> In the GTK documentation as well as in the QT documentation I see that they support for all their controls can be done RTL or LTR direction
> To each control on its own
> 
> Thank you
> On the investment a lot
> 

Hi,

Right-to-left text direction support at control level has been 
implemented in master.

You have now two properties:

- 'Control.Direction' that defines the text direction of the control, 
and all its children.

- 'Control.RightToLeft' that returns if a control is right-to-left oriented.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From sharon at 455.co.il  Sat Jan 22 21:24:19 2022
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 22:24:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
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Hello

Do you have a recommendation for distribution that will be able to compile the source without difficulty

I always use Fedora on a regular basis
And I remember that in the past it was very difficult to compile the original because each time something was missing in Fedora

Thank you

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
Sent: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:43:08 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT

> Le 11/01/2022 ? 14:46, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> > Hello
> > 
> > Is there any way to incorporate mixed right-to-left support in GTK or QT implementation
> > 
> > In the GTK documentation as well as in the QT documentation I see that they support for all their controls can be done RTL or LTR direction
> > To each control on its own
> > 
> > Thank you
> > On the investment a lot
> >
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Right-to-left text direction support at control level has been 
> implemented in master.
> 
> You have now two properties:
> 
> - 'Control.Direction' that defines the text direction of the control, 
> and all its children.
> 
> - 'Control.RightToLeft' that returns if a control is right-to-left oriented.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
------- End of Original Message -------


From sharon at 455.co.il  Sat Jan 22 21:16:47 2022
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 22:16:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
In-Reply-To: <b1645f83-7e0f-c809-0069-ee504838930d@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20220122201334.M8875@455.co.il>

Many thanks

I'll try to compile the master

I will report on progress

Thanks again 

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
Sent: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:43:08 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT

> Le 11/01/2022 ? 14:46, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> > Hello
> > 
> > Is there any way to incorporate mixed right-to-left support in GTK or QT implementation
> > 
> > In the GTK documentation as well as in the QT documentation I see that they support for all their controls can be done RTL or LTR direction
> > To each control on its own
> > 
> > Thank you
> > On the investment a lot
> >
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Right-to-left text direction support at control level has been 
> implemented in master.
> 
> You have now two properties:
> 
> - 'Control.Direction' that defines the text direction of the control, 
> and all its children.
> 
> - 'Control.RightToLeft' that returns if a control is right-to-left oriented.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
------- End of Original Message -------


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 22 21:43:22 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 20:43:22 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 at 05:00, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You know how like Pluma has the really handy "External Tools" feature that
> lets you run any script and input the result into the document.
> Or just run a script on the document text.
> Many uses, very handy.
>
> Well i've added it to gambas :-\
>
> Check this post out where there's a little info on it, a link to the
> gitlab branch and a clip of it in action...
> https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1270
> (Benoit's going to cringe at the code :) lol)
>
> Non-perfect code aside I'm going to find this very useful for some custom
> functions :)
>
> Benoit, you should so very much do this with gambas.
> Then there would be a million things we could get our gambas's to do, the
> biggest plus being that you would not have to :)
>

Any interest Ben?
Here''s my branch (cleaned up)
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools

modifications to your code are minimal, just adding the menus and hiding
tools when not on a text editing window.
CExternalTools.class and FExternalTools.class/form do the rest.

Here it is in action launching my code sorter...
https://bws.org.uk/gambas-screens/screenrecord-2022-01-22_19.49.51.mp4

I'm sure how i've implemented it is terrible in the "how it should be done"
and quite possible in "the way i have done it" ways  ?
I had an issue setting up the shortcut Ctrl+Alt+E ,  it works on QT but not
gtk3 so I must be doing something wrong.

could this be merge worthy or is it just too much of a hack?  (i can take
the truth :) )

Wishing Well
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 22 21:53:19 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 20:53:19 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 at 20:25, Mayost Sharon <sharon at 455.co.il> wrote:

> Hello
>
> Do you have a recommendation for distribution that will be able to compile
> the source without difficulty
>
> I always use Fedora on a regular basis
> And I remember that in the past it was very difficult to compile the
> original because each time something was missing in Fedora
>

Hi, is the Fedora Latest list here...
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/fedora#t10  not okay?

it lists these dependencies for Fedora...

dnf install -y libtool libtool-ltdl-devel gcc make autoconf dumb-devel
gmime-devel gmime30-devel libffi-devel mariadb-devel postgresql-devel
unixODBC-devel sqlite2-devel libsqlite3x-devel libxslt-devel
libv4l-devel glew-devel poppler-devel poppler-glib-devel
poppler-cpp-devel qt-devel qt5-qtbase-devel qt5-qtbase-private-devel
qt5-qtwebengine-devel qt5-qtx11extras-devel qt5-qtsvg-devel
SDL_ttf-devel SDL_mixer-devel SDL-devel SDL2_ttf-devel
SDL2_mixer-devel SDL2_image-devel SDL2-devel cairo-devel gtk2-devel
gtk3-devel imlib2-devel librsvg2-devel qt-webkit-devel qt5-qtwebkit
qt5-qtwebkit-devel openal-soft-devel libjpeg-turbo-devel
gtkglext-devel gmp-devel libxml2-devel libXtst-devel gsl-devel
pcre-devel dbus-devel libcurl-devel alure-devel gstreamermm-devel
libgnome-keyring-devel bzip2-devel libzstd-devel webkit2gtk3-devel
ncurses-devel

one of my applications could automate the task for you...
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/installtools

I have not tested on fedora lately but i have tested them as working on
fedora before.
for a simple upgrade i'd recommend Gambas_Simple_Upgrader or if the gambas
application does not work try the bash script.

All the best
BruceS


Ubuntu/Mint are the easiest as you can simply use the PPA method and add
the launchpad repository to an ubuntu based system.
see here...
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/ubuntu#t3   (Gambas 3 version on /trunk)
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 22 22:10:13 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 22:10:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
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Le 22/01/2022 ? 21:43, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> Any interest Ben?
> Here''s my branch (cleaned up)
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools 
> <https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools>
> 
> modifications to your code are minimal, just adding the menus and hiding 
> tools when not on a text editing window.
> CExternalTools.class and FExternalTools.class/form do the rest.
> 
> Here it is in action launching my code sorter...
> https://bws.org.uk/gambas-screens/screenrecord-2022-01-22_19.49.51.mp4 
> <https://bws.org.uk/gambas-screens/screenrecord-2022-01-22_19.49.51.mp4>
> 
> I'm sure how i've implemented it is terrible in the "how it should be 
> done" and quite possible in "the way i have done it" ways? ?
> I had an issue setting up the shortcut Ctrl+Alt+E ,? it works on QT but 
> not gtk3 so I must be doing something wrong.
> 
> could this be merge worthy or is it just too much of a hack?? (i can 
> take the truth :) )
> 
> Wishing Well
> BruceS
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

I will look at it and I tell you.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Jan 23 08:03:56 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (=?UTF-8?B?QnJpYW4gRw==?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 10:03:56 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?utf-8?q?Debug_displayed_values_delayed?=
Message-ID: <1642921436.70789114@f40.my.com>


When using the debugger recently I have noticed the the debugger does not show a changed variable value immediately it takes one or two instruction cycles before the new value shows up in the debug window.
It is a little disconcerting.
Has anyone else noticed this behavior with the master version?
--
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From sharon at 455.co.il  Sun Jan 23 12:20:44 2022
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:20:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
In-Reply-To: <b1645f83-7e0f-c809-0069-ee504838930d@gmail.com>
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Hello

I installed the version:
Gambas 3 version on / trunk
On Mint
As he suggested to me: Bruce Steers

I created a new GTK + 3 project
I put on a form: a combobox control
I set the Direction property=RightToLeft
And the control still remains from left to right:
1. If I write text "1234" it is still written close to the left
2. Even the control itself is still visible as left to right because I see the button of the combo box is on the right side and not on the left side

I enclose an example of what it looks like in HTML

Thank you

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
Sent: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:43:08 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT

> Le 11/01/2022 ? 14:46, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> > Hello
> > 
> > Is there any way to incorporate mixed right-to-left support in GTK or QT implementation
> > 
> > In the GTK documentation as well as in the QT documentation I see that they support for all their controls can be done RTL or LTR direction
> > To each control on its own
> > 
> > Thank you
> > On the investment a lot
> >
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Right-to-left text direction support at control level has been 
> implemented in master.
> 
> You have now two properties:
> 
> - 'Control.Direction' that defines the text direction of the control, 
> and all its children.
> 
> - 'Control.RightToLeft' that returns if a control is right-to-left oriented.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 15:05:47 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:05:47 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
In-Reply-To: <9f96ee60-08ff-2a8c-e4c2-9f06e61beee5@gmail.com>
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 at 21:11, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 22/01/2022 ? 21:43, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > Any interest Ben?
> > Here''s my branch (cleaned up)
> > https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools
> > <https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools>
> >
> > modifications to your code are minimal, just adding the menus and hiding
> > tools when not on a text editing window.
> > CExternalTools.class and FExternalTools.class/form do the rest.
> >
> > Here it is in action launching my code sorter...
> > https://bws.org.uk/gambas-screens/screenrecord-2022-01-22_19.49.51.mp4
> > <https://bws.org.uk/gambas-screens/screenrecord-2022-01-22_19.49.51.mp4>
> >
> > I'm sure how i've implemented it is terrible in the "how it should be
> > done" and quite possible in "the way i have done it" ways  ?
> > I had an issue setting up the shortcut Ctrl+Alt+E ,  it works on QT but
> > not gtk3 so I must be doing something wrong.
> >
> > could this be merge worthy or is it just too much of a hack?  (i can
> > take the truth :) )
> >
> > Wishing Well
> > BruceS
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> I will look at it and I tell you.
>

Thanks Ben, I know you are a busy man.
(i fixed the menu shortcut issue, it was because the parent menu also has
the shortcut if no children are added, just needed to remove the shortcut
from the parent if it makes child menus, QT didn't mind but to be fair it
was lazy of me not to do it anyway)

The feature is already becoming useful for me.

I just added clipboard options to it, now I have added a script to select
something like...
*Settings["MycheckValue"] = cbxMyValue.Value*
and spin it around and copy it to the clipboard so i can pop up to
Form_Open and paste...

*cbxMyValue.Value = Settings["MycheckValue"]*

(been wanting something like that for a while, every time i'm writing my
options code)

Aah the possibilities are endless :)

Respects
BruceS
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From mtitouinfo at yahoo.fr  Sun Jan 23 15:52:03 2022
From: mtitouinfo at yahoo.fr (Manu)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 15:52:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] plantage
In-Reply-To: <1ef6546b-8651-2e26-91a9-55646dc59f08@wanadoo.fr>
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Le 01/01/2022 ? 15:59, Jean-Yvon a ?crit?:
> 
> Hello!
> all my best wishes for 2022
> Gambas plant: impossible to type more than a few characters and 
> everything disappears. No message, nothing.
> gambas 3.16.2
> Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
> KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
> Qt Version: 5.12.8
> Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
> OS Type: 64-bit
> Processors: 6 Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
> Memory: 7,7 Gio
> 
> 
> /Bonjour!/
> 
> /tous mes v?ux pour 2022
> /
> 
> /Gambas plante : impossible de taper plus de quelques caract?res et tout 
> dispara?t. Pas de message, rien.
> /
> 
> /gambas 3.16.2
> Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
> KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
> Qt Version: 5.12.8
> Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
> OS Type: 64-bit
> Processors: 6 ? Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
> Memory: 7,7 Gio/
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

happy new year,

purge and reinstall
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
gbs3 -V; gsh -V; --> 3.16.3     1.3.104
gsh gambas shell (optional)

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Jan 23 17:28:19 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 08:28:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] plantage
In-Reply-To: <1916989218.24831.1642955122843.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <1ef6546b-8651-2e26-91a9-55646dc59f08@wanadoo.fr>
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If your asking about gsh then can you tell me how you installed it?


"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:25 AM, Brian G brian at westwoodsvcs.com wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Not sure what you are asking, which does not allow more than a few characters?
> 
> gsh requires gambas3 3.16.3 for the latest updates, use the gambas team daily
> repository
> 
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily
> sudo apt-get update
> 
> "Failure is the key to success;
> each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
> 
> ----- On Jan 23, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Gambas mailing list
> user at lists.gambas-basic.org wrote:
> 
>> Le 01/01/2022 ? 15:59, Jean-Yvon a ?crit?:
>>> 
>>> Hello!
>>> all my best wishes for 2022
>>> Gambas plant: impossible to type more than a few characters and
>>> everything disappears. No message, nothing.
>>> gambas 3.16.2
>>> Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
>>> KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
>>> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
>>> Qt Version: 5.12.8
>>> Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
>>> OS Type: 64-bit
>>> Processors: 6 Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
>>> Memory: 7,7 Gio
>>> 
>>> 
>>> /Bonjour!/
>>> 
>>> /tous mes v?ux pour 2022
>>> /
>>> 
>>> /Gambas plante : impossible de taper plus de quelques caract?res et tout
>>> dispara?t. Pas de message, rien.
>>> /
>>> 
>>> /gambas 3.16.2
>>> Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
>>> KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
>>> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
>>> Qt Version: 5.12.8
>>> Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
>>> OS Type: 64-bit
>>> Processors: 6 ? Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
>>> Memory: 7,7 Gio/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>> 
>> 
>> happy new year,
>> 
>> purge and reinstall
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
>> gbs3 -V; gsh -V; --> 3.16.3     1.3.104
>> gsh gambas shell (optional)
>> 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Jan 23 17:25:22 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 08:25:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] plantage
In-Reply-To: <abf6674a-0280-3206-1454-94fd43dc4af4@yahoo.fr>
References: <1ef6546b-8651-2e26-91a9-55646dc59f08@wanadoo.fr>
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Message-ID: <1916989218.24831.1642955122843.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Hi,

 Not sure what you are asking, which does not allow more than a few characters?

gsh requires gambas3 3.16.3 for the latest updates, use the gambas team daily repository

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily
sudo apt-get update

"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jan 23, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Gambas mailing list user at lists.gambas-basic.org wrote:

> Le 01/01/2022 ? 15:59, Jean-Yvon a ?crit?:
>> 
>> Hello!
>> all my best wishes for 2022
>> Gambas plant: impossible to type more than a few characters and
>> everything disappears. No message, nothing.
>> gambas 3.16.2
>> Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
>> KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
>> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
>> Qt Version: 5.12.8
>> Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
>> OS Type: 64-bit
>> Processors: 6 Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
>> Memory: 7,7 Gio
>> 
>> 
>> /Bonjour!/
>> 
>> /tous mes v?ux pour 2022
>> /
>> 
>> /Gambas plante : impossible de taper plus de quelques caract?res et tout
>> dispara?t. Pas de message, rien.
>> /
>> 
>> /gambas 3.16.2
>> Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
>> KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
>> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
>> Qt Version: 5.12.8
>> Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
>> OS Type: 64-bit
>> Processors: 6 ? Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
>> Memory: 7,7 Gio/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>> 
> 
> happy new year,
> 
> purge and reinstall
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
> gbs3 -V; gsh -V; --> 3.16.3     1.3.104
> gsh gambas shell (optional)
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Mon Jan 24 06:26:45 2022
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 06:26:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] plantage
In-Reply-To: <1653784685.24834.1642955299521.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <1ef6546b-8651-2e26-91a9-55646dc59f08@wanadoo.fr>
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Salut Jean-Yvon..

Et meilleurs voeux

Ta distribution commence a dater non ?

Cordialement,

Fabien




Le dim. 23 janv. 2022 ? 17:30, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> a ?crit :

> If your asking about gsh then can you tell me how you installed it?
>
>
> "Failure is the key to success;
>  each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
>
> ----- On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:25 AM, Brian G brian at westwoodsvcs.com wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Not sure what you are asking, which does not allow more than a few
> characters?
> >
> > gsh requires gambas3 3.16.3 for the latest updates, use the gambas team
> daily
> > repository
> >
> > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily
> > sudo apt-get update
> >
> > "Failure is the key to success;
> > each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> > Brian G
> >
> > ----- On Jan 23, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Gambas mailing list
> > user at lists.gambas-basic.org wrote:
> >
> >> Le 01/01/2022 ? 15:59, Jean-Yvon a ?crit :
> >>>
> >>> Hello!
> >>> all my best wishes for 2022
> >>> Gambas plant: impossible to type more than a few characters and
> >>> everything disappears. No message, nothing.
> >>> gambas 3.16.2
> >>> Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
> >>> KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
> >>> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
> >>> Qt Version: 5.12.8
> >>> Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
> >>> OS Type: 64-bit
> >>> Processors: 6 Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
> >>> Memory: 7,7 Gio
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> /Bonjour!/
> >>>
> >>> /tous mes v?ux pour 2022
> >>> /
> >>>
> >>> /Gambas plante : impossible de taper plus de quelques caract?res et
> tout
> >>> dispara?t. Pas de message, rien.
> >>> /
> >>>
> >>> /gambas 3.16.2
> >>> Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
> >>> KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
> >>> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
> >>> Qt Version: 5.12.8
> >>> Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
> >>> OS Type: 64-bit
> >>> Processors: 6 ? Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
> >>> Memory: 7,7 Gio/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >>>
> >>
> >> happy new year,
> >>
> >> purge and reinstall
> >> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
> >> gbs3 -V; gsh -V; --> 3.16.3     1.3.104
> >> gsh gambas shell (optional)
> >>
> > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Mon Jan 24 06:48:35 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 21:48:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] plantage
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References: <1ef6546b-8651-2e26-91a9-55646dc59f08@wanadoo.fr>
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I thought 20.04 end of life was 2030 ... 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 

----- On Jan 23, 2022, at 9:26 PM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Salut Jean-Yvon..

> Et meilleurs voeux

> Ta distribution commence a dater non ?

> Cordialement,

> Fabien

> Le dim. 23 janv. 2022 ? 17:30, Brian G < [ mailto:brian at westwoodsvcs.com |
> brian at westwoodsvcs.com ] > a ?crit :

>> If your asking about gsh then can you tell me how you installed it?

>> "Failure is the key to success;
>> each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba
>> Brian G

>> ----- On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:25 AM, Brian G [ mailto:brian at westwoodsvcs.com |
>> brian at westwoodsvcs.com ] wrote:

>> > Hi,

>> > Not sure what you are asking, which does not allow more than a few characters?

>> > gsh requires gambas3 3.16.3 for the latest updates, use the gambas team daily
>> > repository

>> > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily
>> > sudo apt-get update

>> > "Failure is the key to success;
>> > each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba
>> > Brian G

>> > ----- On Jan 23, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Gambas mailing list
>> > [ mailto:user at lists.gambas-basic.org | user at lists.gambas-basic.org ] wrote:

>> >> Le 01/01/2022 ? 15:59, Jean-Yvon a ?crit :

>> >>> Hello!
>> >>> all my best wishes for 2022
>> >>> Gambas plant: impossible to type more than a few characters and
>> >>> everything disappears. No message, nothing.
>> >>> gambas 3.16.2
>> >>> Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
>> >>> KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
>> >>> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
>> >>> Qt Version: 5.12.8
>> >>> Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
>> >>> OS Type: 64-bit
>> >>> Processors: 6 Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
>> >>> Memory: 7,7 Gio


>> >>> /Bonjour!/

>> >>> /tous mes v?ux pour 2022
>> >>> /

>> >>> /Gambas plante : impossible de taper plus de quelques caract?res et tout
>> >>> dispara?t. Pas de message, rien.
>> >>> /

>> >>> /gambas 3.16.2
>> >>> Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04
>> >>> KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5
>> >>> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0
>> >>> Qt Version: 5.12.8
>> >>> Kernel Version: 5.4.0-91-generic
>> >>> OS Type: 64-bit
>> >>> Processors: 6 ? Intel? Core? i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
>> >>> Memory: 7,7 Gio/



>>>>> ----[ [ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette |
>> >>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ] ]----


>> >> happy new year,

>> >> purge and reinstall
>> >> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
>> >> gbs3 -V; gsh -V; --> 3.16.3 1.3.104
>> >> gsh gambas shell (optional)

>>> > ----[ [ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette |
>> > > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ] ]----

>> ----[ [ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette |
>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ] ]----

> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Mon Jan 24 15:57:23 2022
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 15:57:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] plantage
In-Reply-To: <630926197.25076.1643003315427.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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True, not so old

Jean Yvon.. try to launch it in a terminal and see if you have crashing
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Mon Jan 24 18:47:22 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 09:47:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] plantage
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL5va6=jG+UnAB-vXHtqng3-b5H4ud85=rmDUM5tPLcwMA@mail.gmail.com>
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What is gambas plant? 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 

----- On Jan 24, 2022, at 9:42 AM, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote: 

> What app are you launching?

> "Failure is the key to success;
> each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G

> ----- On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:57 AM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote:

>> True, not so old

>> Jean Yvon.. try to launch it in a terminal and see if you have crashing message

>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 24 19:13:36 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 04:43:36 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] plantage
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plantage -> plantation -> farm ?

On Mon, 2022-01-24 at 09:47 -0800, Brian G wrote:
> What is gambas plant? 
> 
> "Failure is the key to success; 
> each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
> Brian G 
> 
> ----- On Jan 24, 2022, at 9:42 AM, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com>
> wrote: 
> 
> > What app are you launching?
> 
> > "Failure is the key to success;
> > each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba
> > Brian G
> 
> > ----- On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:57 AM, Fabien Bodard
> > <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > True, not so old
> 
> > > Jean Yvon.. try to launch it in a terminal and see if you have
> > > crashing message
> 
> > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette?]----

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From karl.reinl at fen-net.de  Mon Jan 24 19:38:43 2022
From: karl.reinl at fen-net.de (Karl Reinl)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 19:38:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] plantage
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Am Dienstag, dem 25.01.2022 um 04:43 +1030 schrieb bb:
> plantage -> plantation -> farm ?
> On Mon, 2022-01-24 at 09:47 -0800, Brian G wrote:
> > What is gambas plant?

'plantage' means 'crash'


-- 
Amicalement
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 25 18:50:28 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:50:28 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 at 21:11, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 22/01/2022 ? 21:43, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > Any interest Ben?
> > Here''s my branch (cleaned up)
> > https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools
> > <https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools>
> >
> > modifications to your code are minimal, just adding the menus and hiding
> > tools when not on a text editing window.
> > CExternalTools.class and FExternalTools.class/form do the rest.
> >
> > Here it is in action launching my code sorter...
> > https://bws.org.uk/gambas-screens/screenrecord-2022-01-22_19.49.51.mp4
> > <https://bws.org.uk/gambas-screens/screenrecord-2022-01-22_19.49.51.mp4>
> >
> > I'm sure how i've implemented it is terrible in the "how it should be
> > done" and quite possible in "the way i have done it" ways  ?
> > I had an issue setting up the shortcut Ctrl+Alt+E ,  it works on QT but
> > not gtk3 so I must be doing something wrong.
> >
> > could this be merge worthy or is it just too much of a hack?  (i can
> > take the truth :) )
> >
> > Wishing Well
> > BruceS
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> I will look at it and I tell you.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>

You may want to hold off a while. I'm currently re-writing it with a
TreeView not a GridView and supporting sub-menus as i realized I may make
quite a few tools and end up with too large a menu.

plus I'm hoping a re-write will ultimately be nicer code for you.  the
change I previously made was a copy/paste of a function from one of my
other programs edited to fit into gambas so wasn't exactly made to measure.

It also has an annoying bug in the menu refreshing i need to deal with. i
made it auto-hide the tools (not the manager) when not on a text editing
page.  Will probably do away with the auto hiding of the menus and just
make the commands pop an error if run when not on a text page (better for
IDE speed to just leave the menus alone i think).

But do you like the idea at least?
With these options...
*Before running script it can format/pretty text and/or save the file*

*It can pass to the script the selected text, the whole text, the clipboard
contents, the file path/name/dir*


*After running script it can either insert result at cursor, replace whole
doc with result, reload doc or copy result to clipboard*

With just those options I am able to create all manner of funky little
tools to perform many tasks.

I know of at least one other person who thinks this feature will be a very
handy thing.

Wishing well
BruceS
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From isafiur at gmail.com  Wed Jan 26 09:05:25 2022
From: isafiur at gmail.com (Safiur Rahman)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:50:25 +0545
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to set HTML text in WebTree
Message-ID: <CADKn0TKU2kDtTytJjOG4uicWW7hO4ofsvXNcAxKJJvRiDQ7WSg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

The HTML text in WebTree is not displayed in HTML form but in plain text.

I am using in following way:

Dim pic1 As String
  Dim pic2 As String

  Dim i As Integer
  Dim j As Integer

  pic1 = "icon:/small/menu"
  pic2 = "icon:/small/blue"

  WebTree1.Columns.Count = 3
  With WebTree1
    .Columns[0].Text = "Key"
    .Columns[1].Text = "Text"
    .Columns[2].Text = "Time"
  End With

  For i = 0 To 9
    WebTree1.Add(CStr(i), CStr(i), pic1)

    For j = 0 To 5
      WebTree1.Add(CStr(i) & ":" & CStr(j), CStr(i) & ":" & CStr(j), pic2,
CStr(i))

      WebTree1[CStr(i) & ":" & CStr(j)][1] = "<b>Number:</b>" & CStr(i) &
CStr(j)
      WebTree1[CStr(i) & ":" & CStr(j)][2] = CStr(Now())
    Next

  Next

The "Number" is not displayed in bold. Attached a project



-- 
Regards
Safiur Rahman
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Wed Jan 26 10:33:06 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin Belmonte)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:33:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Why are the gitlab master and "system info" versions
 different?
Message-ID: <b5af4042-0c3b-b023-e1b4-970472a315ed@belmotek.net>

Why are the gitlab master and "system info" versions different?
If installed by cloning the same master version, shouldn't system info 
show exactly the same number?
Regards
Mart?n.

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 26 11:43:10 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:43:10 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Why are the gitlab master and "system info"
 versions different?
In-Reply-To: <b5af4042-0c3b-b023-e1b4-970472a315ed@belmotek.net>
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 at 10:12, Martin Belmonte <mbelmonte at belmotek.net>
wrote:

> Why are the gitlab master and "system info" versions different?
> If installed by cloning the same master version, shouldn't system info
> show exactly the same number?
> Regards
> Mart?n.
>

What do you mean?
the system info shows your installed version

if i type gbc3 -V in a shell it says just what it says in the system info
the trunk info (commit) only shows on some commands.
Not gambas3.gambas
but yes on  gbx3 -V and gbc3 -V

It's likely to show different if you use the PPA method than what gitlab
says as that's only a daily update and there can be more than one update to
master per day.

BruceS
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Wed Jan 26 14:42:25 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin Belmonte)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 14:42:25 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Why are the gitlab master and "system info"
 versions different?
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El 26/1/22 a las 11:43, Bruce Steers escribi?:
> What do you mean?
what I am saying is that while gambas tells me that the version is 
9465bf1, gitlab says it is 9465bf17. The "7" at the end is not present 
in gambas ide info.
Please, see the screen shoot:
https://imgur.com/a/m85f3HQ

Regsards.
Mart?n.

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 26 17:19:11 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 17:19:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Why are the gitlab master and "system info"
 versions different?
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Le 26/01/2022 ? 14:42, Martin Belmonte a ?crit?:
> El 26/1/22 a las 11:43, Bruce Steers escribi?:
>> What do you mean?
> what I am saying is that while gambas tells me that the version is 
> 9465bf1, gitlab says it is 9465bf17. The "7" at the end is not present 
> in gambas ide info.
> Please, see the screen shoot:
> https://imgur.com/a/m85f3HQ
> 
> Regsards.
> Mart?n.
> 

Because the real commit SHA key is 
"9465bf174bec6b35c1fcc6891fe10f6cd3cd3e05".

As it is too long, gitlab only displays the eight first digits, whereas 
the git tools displays the seven first digits. It's unlucky that two 
commits have the same seven of eight digits. But it's possible.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Wed Jan 26 21:10:34 2022
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin Belmonte)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 21:10:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Why are the gitlab master and "system info"
 versions different?
In-Reply-To: <dd73c331-4a7a-2641-2a86-65fad21c9007@gmail.com>
References: <b5af4042-0c3b-b023-e1b4-970472a315ed@belmotek.net>
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El 26/1/22 a las 17:19, Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
> 
> As it is too long, gitlab only displays the eight first digits, whereas 
> the git tools displays the seven first digits.
OK, I understand.
So the gambas IDE truncates into 7 characters what git gives [1], which 
is the full hash.
But if you using [2] that gives the 7 char short version (that you say 
right?)

[1] git rev-parse HEAD
[2] git log --pretty=format:'%h' -n 1

So, if it's not too much work since it's not that important either, it's 
just to make it more user friendly and see the same code everywhere, 
change the IDE to truncates the same as this in 8 characters.

Martin


From tobs at taboege.de  Wed Jan 26 22:34:00 2022
From: tobs at taboege.de (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 22:34:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Why are the gitlab master and "system info"
 versions different?
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Message-ID: <20220126213400.GC288165@T580.localdomain>

On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, Martin Belmonte wrote:
> El 26/1/22 a las 17:19, Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
> > 
> > As it is too long, gitlab only displays the eight first digits, whereas
> > the git tools displays the seven first digits.
> OK, I understand.
> So the gambas IDE truncates into 7 characters what git gives [1], which is
> the full hash.
> But if you using [2] that gives the 7 char short version (that you say
> right?)
> 
> [1] git rev-parse HEAD
> [2] git log --pretty=format:'%h' -n 1
> 
> So, if it's not too much work since it's not that important either, it's
> just to make it more user friendly and see the same code everywhere, change
> the IDE to truncates the same as this in 8 characters.
> 

What the Gambas build process does, more precisely, is invoke
`git rev-parse --short HEAD`. This leaves it up to git's judgement
to how many characters the commit hash is shortened. According to
the manpages, git computes this number depending on the size of the
repository and a tradeoff between a shorter abbreviation and a higher
chance that the number is unique and will stay unique "for some time".

On my local machine, I get 9-digit abbreviations, presumably because
either my version of git has different sensitivities or because my
repository is larger than yours (I have a number of branches from
multiple remote sources stored locally).

Instead of matching gitlab's current choice of 8 characters, it seems
more robust to me to trust git's built-in judgement about the length.
The commit hash (and branch name) were added to the version output of
Gambas to help developers make sure that they are not running a stale
version of Gambas because they forgot to `make install` and to make
bug reports for unstable versions automatically more precise. Both of
these goals need the commit hash prefix to be unique only in a rather
limited timeframe and `git rev-parse --short` does a good job ensuring
that without hardcoded numbers.

If you really want 8 characters because you work with the gitlab UI
a lot, I suggest you change your local git configuration to match it:

  $ git config core.abbrev 8

Best,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 02:26:02 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 01:26:02 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Why are the gitlab master and "system info"
 versions different?
In-Reply-To: <75aa1a8d-da7d-42a4-ffcb-5465c1c7f411@belmotek.net>
References: <b5af4042-0c3b-b023-e1b4-970472a315ed@belmotek.net>
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 at 20:11, Martin Belmonte <mbelmonte at belmotek.net>
wrote:

> El 26/1/22 a las 17:19, Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
> >
> > As it is too long, gitlab only displays the eight first digits, whereas
> > the git tools displays the seven first digits.
> OK, I understand.
> So the gambas IDE truncates into 7 characters what git gives [1], which
> is the full hash.
> But if you using [2] that gives the 7 char short version (that you say
> right?)
>
> [1] git rev-parse HEAD
> [2] git log --pretty=format:'%h' -n 1
>
> So, if it's not too much work since it's not that important either, it's
> just to make it more user friendly and see the same code everywhere,
> change the IDE to truncates the same as this in 8 characters.
>

Somethings just ain't perfect , but such is life :)
If you want the IDE to look different you can do it yourself.

Here's how my welcome screen looks when my IDE opens
(added trunk/commit version to it just so i know)

Respects
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 06:34:34 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 05:34:34 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 at 17:50, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 at 21:11, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Le 22/01/2022 ? 21:43, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
>> > Any interest Ben?
>> > Here''s my branch (cleaned up)
>> > https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools
>> > <https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools>
>> >
>> > modifications to your code are minimal, just adding the menus and
>> hiding
>> > tools when not on a text editing window.
>> > CExternalTools.class and FExternalTools.class/form do the rest.
>> >
>> > Here it is in action launching my code sorter...
>> > https://bws.org.uk/gambas-screens/screenrecord-2022-01-22_19.49.51.mp4
>> > <https://bws.org.uk/gambas-screens/screenrecord-2022-01-22_19.49.51.mp4
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm sure how i've implemented it is terrible in the "how it should be
>> > done" and quite possible in "the way i have done it" ways  ?
>> > I had an issue setting up the shortcut Ctrl+Alt+E ,  it works on QT but
>> > not gtk3 so I must be doing something wrong.
>> >
>> > could this be merge worthy or is it just too much of a hack?  (i can
>> > take the truth :) )
>> >
>> > Wishing Well
>> > BruceS
>> >
>> >
>> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>> >
>>
>> I will look at it and I tell you.
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>
> You may want to hold off a while. I'm currently re-writing it with a
> TreeView not a GridView and supporting sub-menus as i realized I may make
> quite a few tools and end up with too large a menu.
>
> plus I'm hoping a re-write will ultimately be nicer code for you.  the
> change I previously made was a copy/paste of a function from one of my
> other programs edited to fit into gambas so wasn't exactly made to measure.
>
> It also has an annoying bug in the menu refreshing i need to deal with. i
> made it auto-hide the tools (not the manager) when not on a text editing
> page.  Will probably do away with the auto hiding of the menus and just
> make the commands pop an error if run when not on a text page (better for
> IDE speed to just leave the menus alone i think).
>
> But do you like the idea at least?
> With these options...
> *Before running script it can format/pretty text and/or save the file*
>
> *It can pass to the script the selected text, the whole text, the
> clipboard contents, the file path/name/dir*
>
>
> *After running script it can either insert result at cursor, replace whole
> doc with result, reload doc or copy result to clipboard*
>
> With just those options I am able to create all manner of funky little
> tools to perform many tasks.
>
> I know of at least one other person who thinks this feature will be a very
> handy thing.
>


Right,, now i think it is more worthy your examination.

i still have to give it a thorough debugging but the structure is now
complete.

What i could do with knowing (probably changing) is how i have integrated
it to the IDE.  I should imagine your understanding of it all has a much
better way to properly integrate it.

But i'm border-line offering it for a merge request soon :)

Branch.
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools

Snapshot.
https://forum.gambas.one/download/file.php?id=1018

Respects
BruceS
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From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 22:57:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
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Le 27/01/2022 ? 06:34, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> 
> Right,, now i think it is more worthy your examination.
> 
> i still have to give it a thorough debugging but the structure is now 
> complete.
> 
> What i could do with knowing (probably changing) is how i have 
> integrated it to the IDE.? I should imagine your understanding of it all 
> has a much better way to properly integrate it.
> 
> But i'm border-line offering it for a merge request soon :)
> 
> Branch.
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools 
> <https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools>
> 
> Snapshot.
> https://forum.gambas.one/download/file.php?id=1018 
> <https://forum.gambas.one/download/file.php?id=1018>
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Hi,

I'm not against the principle, but the implementation.

I have already thought about that in the past, and I would prefer having 
IDE plugins written in Gambas, not in bash.

The plugins could be external Gambas executables / scripts, or Gambas 
libraries that would run in-process.

The former would work through an API, i.e. a class exported by the IDE. 
It is more "dangerous" for the IDE, but it would work faster, and would 
give plugins more power, that power being limited by the exported API.

Now there are different kind of plugins :

- Project-wide plugins: they modify the entire project, or some files of 
the project. For example, optimizing all the PNG files of a project, 
cleaning the project...

- Plugins that work with a specific file (source code file, form file, 
text file, image file...). Plugin that run on a text file or a source 
code file may act only on the current selection ; plugin that run on an 
image may act only on the current selection...

- Plugins that run something else, using the project as a read-only 
souce. For example, counting the number of lines of code.

A plugin library may have a specific form that would be used for 
configuring the plugin. That form may be embedded in a global IDE dialog 
with the configuration forms of all other plugins.

Project-wide plugins will be associated with an action, a icon, and a 
menu entry that will be inserted in the global toolbar and inside a 
specific global menu.

Editor-wide plugins will be associated with an action and a icon that 
would be inserted in the editor toolbar, and a menu entry that will be 
inserted in the editor specific popup-menu.

Some text file inside the plugin archive will describe the plugin 
contents for the IDE.

Note that at the moment Gambas does not know how to unload a library. So 
disabling a plugin would release the memory only on next launch.

These plugins libraries will be installed in specific directories like 
'/usr/share/gambas3/ide-plugins' or '~/.local/share/gambas3/ide-plugins'.

What do you think?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 28 00:53:05 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 00:53:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to set HTML text in WebTree
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Le 26/01/2022 ? 09:05, Safiur Rahman a ?crit?:
> Hi
> 
> The HTML text in WebTree is not displayed in HTML form but in plain text.
> 

Hi,

In last commit, I added a 'Data' event to the WebTree, so that you can 
define the contents of a WebTree column the same way as with WebTable.

Note that the first column is not concerned. Only the extra columns.

By answering that event, you can define the background color, the 
foreground color, and the text or HTML contents of the WebTree item cells.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 28 01:56:44 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 11:26:44 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
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On Thu, 2022-01-27 at 22:57 +0100, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>  (Snipped. In reply to BruceS proposed approach)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm not against the principle, but the implementation.
> 
> I have already thought about that in the past, and I would prefer
> having 
> IDE plugins written in Gambas, not in bash.
> 
> The plugins could be external Gambas executables / scripts, or Gambas
> libraries that would run in-process.
> 
> The former would work through an API, i.e. a class exported by the
> IDE. 
> It is more "dangerous" for the IDE, but it would work faster, and
> would 
> give plugins more power, that power being limited by the exported
> API.
> 
> Now there are different kind of plugins :
> 
> - Project-wide plugins: they modify the entire project, or some files
> of 
> the project. For example, optimizing all the PNG files of a project, 
> cleaning the project...
> 
> - Plugins that work with a specific file (source code file, form
> file, 
> text file, image file...). Plugin that run on a text file or a source
> code file may act only on the current selection ; plugin that run on
> an 
> image may act only on the current selection...
> 
> - Plugins that run something else, using the project as a read-only 
> souce. For example, counting the number of lines of code.
> 
> A plugin library may have a specific form that would be used for 
> configuring the plugin. That form may be embedded in a global IDE
> dialog 
> with the configuration forms of all other plugins.
> 
> Project-wide plugins will be associated with an action, a icon, and a
> menu entry that will be inserted in the global toolbar and inside a 
> specific global menu.
> 
> Editor-wide plugins will be associated with an action and a icon that
> would be inserted in the editor toolbar, and a menu entry that will
> be 
> inserted in the editor specific popup-menu.
> 
> Some text file inside the plugin archive will describe the plugin 
> contents for the IDE.
> 
> Note that at the moment Gambas does not know how to unload a library.
> So 
> disabling a plugin would release the memory only on next launch.
> 
> These plugins libraries will be installed in specific directories
> like 
> '/usr/share/gambas3/ide-plugins' or '~/.local/share/gambas3/ide-
> plugins'.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
Indeed!

I did try to achieve something like this some years ago with limited
success (and the source is long gone).

Two problems that I recall I encountered were:

1. "Locking" the IDE such that you couldn't say start a plugin, flip
back to the IDE and start another. That may create a conflict should
they both update the project or its' contents. Then again you may want
to have one or more read-only plugins monitoring the project in the
background. 

2. Whether or not to automatically save the project before invoking the
plugin. Consider this example. I am working on a library project and
suddenly think the changes I am making may adversely affect the
projects that use this library. We have a third project that searches
for all projects that use a library i.e. a possible read-only plugin.
In that case I certainly don't want the current (library) project saved
automatically - I may want to revert some of or all the changes I have
been making.

Another consideration is callbacks to the IDE from within the plugin. I
don't know whether that could be possible at all but one instance that
I considered unsuccessfully was where the entire project is "modified"
externally by the plugin, say it runs some git that results in the IDE
image of the project being "incorrect". What I tried to achieve without
real success was a way to signal back to the IDE that its' view of the
project was "dirty" and a reload was necessary. ?

Anyway that's just a few thoughts.
b 


From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Fri Jan 28 07:00:45 2022
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 09:00:45 +0300
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What ever happened to gb.scripter?
It provided may of these functions.
--
Thanks
Brian G Thursday, 27 January 2022, 04:57PM -08:00 from bb  adamnt42 at gmail.com :

>On Thu, 2022-01-27 at 22:57 +0100, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> (Snipped. In reply to BruceS proposed approach)
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm not against the principle, but the implementation.
>
> I have already thought about that in the past, and I would prefer
> having 
> IDE plugins written in Gambas, not in bash.
>
> The plugins could be external Gambas executables / scripts, or Gambas
> libraries that would run in-process.
>
> The former would work through an API, i.e. a class exported by the
> IDE. 
> It is more "dangerous" for the IDE, but it would work faster, and
> would 
> give plugins more power, that power being limited by the exported
> API.
>
> Now there are different kind of plugins :
>
> - Project-wide plugins: they modify the entire project, or some files
> of 
> the project. For example, optimizing all the PNG files of a project, 
> cleaning the project...
>
> - Plugins that work with a specific file (source code file, form
> file, 
> text file, image file...). Plugin that run on a text file or a source
> code file may act only on the current selection ; plugin that run on
> an 
> image may act only on the current selection...
>
> - Plugins that run something else, using the project as a read-only 
> souce. For example, counting the number of lines of code.
>
> A plugin library may have a specific form that would be used for 
> configuring the plugin. That form may be embedded in a global IDE
> dialog 
> with the configuration forms of all other plugins.
>
> Project-wide plugins will be associated with an action, a icon, and a
> menu entry that will be inserted in the global toolbar and inside a 
> specific global menu.
>
> Editor-wide plugins will be associated with an action and a icon that
> would be inserted in the editor toolbar, and a menu entry that will
> be 
> inserted in the editor specific popup-menu.
>
> Some text file inside the plugin archive will describe the plugin 
> contents for the IDE.
>
> Note that at the moment Gambas does not know how to unload a library.
> So 
> disabling a plugin would release the memory only on next launch.
>
> These plugins libraries will be installed in specific directories
> like 
> '/usr/share/gambas3/ide-plugins' or '~/.local/share/gambas3/ide-
> plugins'.
>
> What do you think?
>
>Indeed!
>
>I did try to achieve something like this some years ago with limited
>success (and the source is long gone).
>
>Two problems that I recall I encountered were:
>
>1. "Locking" the IDE such that you couldn't say start a plugin, flip
>back to the IDE and start another. That may create a conflict should
>they both update the project or its' contents. Then again you may want
>to have one or more read-only plugins monitoring the project in the
>background. 
>
>2. Whether or not to automatically save the project before invoking the
>plugin. Consider this example. I am working on a library project and
>suddenly think the changes I am making may adversely affect the
>projects that use this library. We have a third project that searches
>for all projects that use a library i.e. a possible read-only plugin.
>In that case I certainly don't want the current (library) project saved
>automatically - I may want to revert some of or all the changes I have
>been making.
>
>Another consideration is callbacks to the IDE from within the plugin. I
>don't know whether that could be possible at all but one instance that
>I considered unsuccessfully was where the entire project is "modified"
>externally by the plugin, say it runs some git that results in the IDE
>image of the project being "incorrect". What I tried to achieve without
>real success was a way to signal back to the IDE that its' view of the
>project was "dirty" and a reload was necessary. ?
>
>Anyway that's just a few thoughts.
>b 
>
>
>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 28 08:11:35 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:35 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 21:58, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 27/01/2022 ? 06:34, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> >
> > Right,, now i think it is more worthy your examination.
> >
> > i still have to give it a thorough debugging but the structure is now
> > complete.
> >
> > What i could do with knowing (probably changing) is how i have
> > integrated it to the IDE.  I should imagine your understanding of it all
> > has a much better way to properly integrate it.
> >
> > But i'm border-line offering it for a merge request soon :)
> >
> > Branch.
> > https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools
> > <https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/External-Tools>
> >
> > Snapshot.
> > https://forum.gambas.one/download/file.php?id=1018
> > <https://forum.gambas.one/download/file.php?id=1018>
> >
> > Respects
> > BruceS
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm not against the principle, but the implementation.
>
> I have already thought about that in the past, and I would prefer having
> IDE plugins written in Gambas, not in bash.
>
> The plugins could be external Gambas executables / scripts, or Gambas
> libraries that would run in-process.
>
> The former would work through an API, i.e. a class exported by the IDE.
> It is more "dangerous" for the IDE, but it would work faster, and would
> give plugins more power, that power being limited by the exported API.
>
> Now there are different kind of plugins :
>
> - Project-wide plugins: they modify the entire project, or some files of
> the project. For example, optimizing all the PNG files of a project,
> cleaning the project...
>
> - Plugins that work with a specific file (source code file, form file,
> text file, image file...). Plugin that run on a text file or a source
> code file may act only on the current selection ; plugin that run on an
> image may act only on the current selection...
>
> - Plugins that run something else, using the project as a read-only
> souce. For example, counting the number of lines of code.
>
> A plugin library may have a specific form that would be used for
> configuring the plugin. That form may be embedded in a global IDE dialog
> with the configuration forms of all other plugins.
>
> Project-wide plugins will be associated with an action, a icon, and a
> menu entry that will be inserted in the global toolbar and inside a
> specific global menu.
>
> Editor-wide plugins will be associated with an action and a icon that
> would be inserted in the editor toolbar, and a menu entry that will be
> inserted in the editor specific popup-menu.
>
> Some text file inside the plugin archive will describe the plugin
> contents for the IDE.
>
> Note that at the moment Gambas does not know how to unload a library. So
> disabling a plugin would release the memory only on next launch.
>
> These plugins libraries will be installed in specific directories like
> '/usr/share/gambas3/ide-plugins' or '~/.local/share/gambas3/ide-plugins'.
>
> What do you think?
>

i think that idea is great
I could probably add a shell script running plugin then ;)

But also that is going WAAAAY beyond my capabilities i think and my desire
to "mess" about with the IDE.
This is about as much "mess about with your IDE" as i dare to go ;)

I'm happy to put in some groundwork with this feature (making plugins) but
starting it off (the initial API) will have to be your doing as only you
will know how to integrate it all best.

I'm guessing a Plugin.class that will have the properties/configuration as
described above
like
 hPlugin.AllowFor = Plugin.Allow_Editor + Plugin.Allow_TextEditor +
Plugin.Allow_Form

maybe functions like
hPlugin.Get_FEditor() As FEditor
hPlugin.Get_FTextEditor() As FTextEditor
hPlugin.Get_FForm() As FForm

 to get full control of the editors and use any method / set any property

and stuff like...
Call a method from the Project.class
hPlugn.CallProjectMethod(Name As String, Arguments As Variant[]) as Variant

Hmm, or just hPlugin.GetProject() to access the Project.class

This could be easier than i thought.
I guess you just want the Plugin.class to be able to access the ide's main
classes and away we go....

Or is that too much freedom to cause problems and better to only add
certain safe methods?

As for my external tools addition i've put quite a bit of time into it and
am really digging the functionality of all these new options i have so i'm
going to keep it in my bruces-patched branch until i can do something
similar with plugins,
convert this External Tools mod to a plugin maybe? :)

It's like having advanced snippets, i always remember how overjoyed i was
when i discovered it in the Pluma editor, super useful to just knock up a
script to do a custom function on the doc :)

I've set it so Ctrl+Alt+E opens the tools manager and Ctrl+E triggers a
mnuExternalTools.PopUp at mouse pos  :)
That would be a consideration for the plugins too, a shortcut key to
launch.  i embedded my menu into the "Advanced" submenu and am already fed
up with hunting for it.  much easier to hit Ctrl+E :)

The operation halts if the script returns an error code.
it warns if no text is selected and you've used $GB_SELECTED
Various sanity checks.

Thanks for taking the time to look.
Respects
BruceS
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:23:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
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Le 28/01/2022 ? 08:11, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> i think that idea is great
> I could probably add a shell script running plugin then ;)
> 
> But also that is going WAAAAY beyond my capabilities i think and my 
> desire to "mess" about with the IDE.
> This is about as much "mess about with your IDE" as i dare to go ;)
> 
> I'm happy to put in some groundwork with this feature (making plugins) 
> but starting it off (the initial API) will have to be your doing as only 
> you will know how to integrate it all best.

Of course. The API minimizes the dependencies between the IDE and the 
plugin, and allows to concentrate on the plugin writing instead of the 
internal IDE stuff.

> 
> I'm guessing a Plugin.class that will have the properties/configuration 
> as described above
> like
>  ?hPlugin.AllowFor = Plugin.Allow_Editor + Plugin.Allow_TextEditor + 
> Plugin.Allow_Form
> 
> maybe functions like
> hPlugin.Get_FEditor() As FEditor
> hPlugin.Get_FTextEditor() As FTextEditor
> hPlugin.Get_FForm() As FForm
> 
>  ?to get full control of the editors and use any method / set any property

Not necessarily. It could be less powerful than that. My idea is to 
start the smallest as possible, and enhance the API step by step.

> 
> and stuff like...
> Call a method from the Project.class
> hPlugn.CallProjectMethod(Name As String, Arguments As Variant[]) as Variant
> 
> Hmm, or just hPlugin.GetProject() to access the Project.class
> 
> This could be easier than i thought.
> I guess you just want the Plugin.class to be able to access the ide's 
> main classes and away we go....
> 
> Or is that too much freedom to cause problems and better to only add 
> certain safe methods?

See above.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 28 10:32:33 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:32:33 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
In-Reply-To: <1643349645.231333875@f30.my.com>
References: <CABuQYCDR6wv2pLRvk2iu3YJpDhkM+67gacwSxsacAiF3NciD+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <3e498941-917a-3e1f-5f55-b39fb44969e4@gmail.com>
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Le 28/01/2022 ? 07:00, Brian G a ?crit?:
> What ever happened to gb.scripter?
> 
> It provided may of these functions.
> 
> --
> Thanks
> Brian G

To use a script as a library, we can use the "gbs3 --plugin" feature.

But we would need it to generate an executable only if the script has 
changed. Maybe it already checks that?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From isafiur at gmail.com  Fri Jan 28 15:08:30 2022
From: isafiur at gmail.com (Safiur Rahman)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 19:53:30 +0545
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to set HTML text in WebTree
In-Reply-To: <CADKn0TKU2kDtTytJjOG4uicWW7hO4ofsvXNcAxKJJvRiDQ7WSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADKn0TKU2kDtTytJjOG4uicWW7hO4ofsvXNcAxKJJvRiDQ7WSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADKn0TJD5qBKdV9FJ0PbAmo+jR+psArdZaCOurOG9vWtLw2Q4g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Beno?t
Thank you for adding this important feature.
I get a message "Class name hidden by local declaration: Key" shown with
WebTree1_Data on compiling.
Attached a project to reproduce t

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 1:50 PM Safiur Rahman <isafiur at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> The HTML text in WebTree is not displayed in HTML form but in plain text.
>
> I am using in following way:
>
> Dim pic1 As String
>   Dim pic2 As String
>
>   Dim i As Integer
>   Dim j As Integer
>
>   pic1 = "icon:/small/menu"
>   pic2 = "icon:/small/blue"
>
>   WebTree1.Columns.Count = 3
>   With WebTree1
>     .Columns[0].Text = "Key"
>     .Columns[1].Text = "Text"
>     .Columns[2].Text = "Time"
>   End With
>
>   For i = 0 To 9
>     WebTree1.Add(CStr(i), CStr(i), pic1)
>
>     For j = 0 To 5
>       WebTree1.Add(CStr(i) & ":" & CStr(j), CStr(i) & ":" & CStr(j), pic2,
> CStr(i))
>
>       WebTree1[CStr(i) & ":" & CStr(j)][1] = "<b>Number:</b>" & CStr(i) &
> CStr(j)
>       WebTree1[CStr(i) & ":" & CStr(j)][2] = CStr(Now())
>     Next
>
>   Next
>
> The "Number" is not displayed in bold. Attached a project
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Safiur Rahman
>


-- 
Regards
Safiur Rahman
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 28 21:25:04 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 20:25:04 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can i disable the return code error message?
Message-ID: <CABuQYCB3asTF5PYyZaKM0UB+rxp+NTmJ47HntE2CF=aFCf-oBQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have a program that if the user clicks cancel it returns error code 125
(operation cancelled)

now every time i run it through the IDE it pops up a message telling me it
returned an error code.

Can i stop the IDE doing that if i do not wat to know?

Thanks

BruceS
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From roberto.premoli at tiscali.it  Fri Jan 28 21:13:29 2022
From: roberto.premoli at tiscali.it (roberto.premoli at tiscali.it)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 21:13:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] crosscompiling for aarch64 (pinephone)
Message-ID: <66605c44125762254e02cc7ce46c4f6e@tiscali.it>

  long story short: 
1. I installed gambas3 (3-16-2) on Mobian (Debian
for Mobile) on pinephone.
2. gambas starts, but does not fit in 720x1440
resolution of screen and "fall" outside, making gambas not usable.
3. i
reported few days ago the story on mailing-list and kindly Mr. Minisini
said he is thinking to implement remote controll via ssh, but I don't
know when this feature will be ready.
4. I tried (and fail) to take
remote controll with vnc because mobian run wayland and apparently there
is not "ready to use" vnc for wailand.

I bought pinephone with main
goal to port on it my programs done in gambas: I still not accept idea I
cannot use gambas3 on pinephone! So, what next? 
the idea is to develep
my programs on my amd64 desktop and crosscompile for aarch64, create the
related .deb package, move on pinephone and install. 
Is this feasible?
and if yes, how? 
Thanks, 
Roberto  


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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 28 23:39:11 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:39:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] crosscompiling for aarch64 (pinephone)
In-Reply-To: <66605c44125762254e02cc7ce46c4f6e@tiscali.it>
References: <66605c44125762254e02cc7ce46c4f6e@tiscali.it>
Message-ID: <a1695e28-8495-10fc-c6a2-ec06caea9ac0@gmail.com>

Le 28/01/2022 ? 21:13, roberto.premoli at tiscali.it a ?crit?:
> long story short:
> 1. I installed gambas3 (3-16-2) on Mobian (Debian for Mobile) on pinephone.
> 2. gambas starts, but does not fit in 720x1440 resolution of screen and 
> "fall" outside, making gambas not usable.
> 3. i reported few days ago the story on mailing-list and kindly Mr. 
> Minisini said he is thinking to implement remote controll via ssh, but I 
> don't know when this feature will be ready.
> 4. I tried (and fail) to take remote controll with vnc because mobian 
> run wayland and apparently there is not "ready to use" vnc for wailand.
> 
> I bought pinephone with main goal to port on it my programs done in 
> gambas: I still not accept idea I cannot use gambas3 on pinephone! So, 
> what next?
> the idea is to develep my programs on my amd64 desktop and crosscompile 
> for aarch64, create the related .deb package, move on pinephone and install.
> Is this feasible? and if yes, how?
> Thanks,
> Roberto
> 

I don't have any idea other than 3). It will takes some time, because at 
the moment I don't know how to implement that - the IDE needs two pipes, 
i.e. four streams between him and the debugged process, through ssh...

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sat Jan 29 00:23:29 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:23:29 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can i disable the return code error message?
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCB3asTF5PYyZaKM0UB+rxp+NTmJ47HntE2CF=aFCf-oBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCB3asTF5PYyZaKM0UB+rxp+NTmJ47HntE2CF=aFCf-oBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ec0429df-dfdd-7a41-3e17-d092dd382b55@gmail.com>

On 1/28/22 15:25, Bruce Steers wrote:
> I have a program that if the user clicks cancel it returns error code 125 (operation cancelled)
> 
> now every time i run it through the IDE it pops up a message telling me it returned an error code.
> 
> Can i stop the IDE doing that if i do not wat to know?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> BruceS

Gambas GUI applications do not automatically have any "cancel" that can be clicked. One would click the 'X' icon to close the 
app window. Dialogs, on the other hand, do have "Cancel" buttons. What exactly are you doing?


-- 
Lee

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 29 01:02:14 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 00:02:14 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can i disable the return code error message?
In-Reply-To: <ec0429df-dfdd-7a41-3e17-d092dd382b55@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCB3asTF5PYyZaKM0UB+rxp+NTmJ47HntE2CF=aFCf-oBQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <ec0429df-dfdd-7a41-3e17-d092dd382b55@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAXFW_PPXdDi2jB_u6FVAo=aoY9HaDj=H9_V1DV=ZiWHQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at 23:24, T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 1/28/22 15:25, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > I have a program that if the user clicks cancel it returns error code
> 125 (operation cancelled)
> >
> > now every time i run it through the IDE it pops up a message telling me
> it returned an error code.
> >
> > Can i stop the IDE doing that if i do not wat to know?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > BruceS
>
> Gambas GUI applications do not automatically have any "cancel" that can be
> clicked. One would click the 'X' icon to close the
> app window. Dialogs, on the other hand, do have "Cancel" buttons. What
> exactly are you doing?
>

It's for my gambas code sorter.
It modifies/sorts a gambas source (or not)
I run it with my ExternalTools addon via a shell script

If the user clicks Cancel or closes the window (not hitting save) then the
calling script detects an error code 125 (user cancelled) and does not
continue.

If user clicks save then no error code and script carries on.

BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 29 01:05:05 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 00:05:05 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can i disable the return code error message?
In-Reply-To: <ec0429df-dfdd-7a41-3e17-d092dd382b55@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCB3asTF5PYyZaKM0UB+rxp+NTmJ47HntE2CF=aFCf-oBQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <ec0429df-dfdd-7a41-3e17-d092dd382b55@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCkUCuqLYL3UcBJBpGpRT=WpEn+stCAAcaUHpbuw6hb9w@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at 23:24, T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 1/28/22 15:25, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > I have a program that if the user clicks cancel it returns error code
> 125 (operation cancelled)
> >
> > now every time i run it through the IDE it pops up a message telling me
> it returned an error code.
> >
> > Can i stop the IDE doing that if i do not wat to know?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > BruceS
>
> Gambas GUI applications do not automatically have any "cancel" that can be
> clicked. One would click the 'X' icon to close the
> app window. Dialogs, on the other hand, do have "Cancel" buttons. What
> exactly are you doing?
>

Technically Gambas GUI applications don't have ANYTHING till you start
adding controls to it :)
Then anything is possible :)

Respects
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 29 02:26:07 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 01:26:07 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can i disable the return code error message?
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCB3asTF5PYyZaKM0UB+rxp+NTmJ47HntE2CF=aFCf-oBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCB3asTF5PYyZaKM0UB+rxp+NTmJ47HntE2CF=aFCf-oBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCO=TLFj7vRatpfm9-hHsKYgXhjf0=kC442i9BQWktuMA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at 20:25, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a program that if the user clicks cancel it returns error code 125
> (operation cancelled)
>
> now every time i run it through the IDE it pops up a message telling me it
> returned an error code.
>
> Can i stop the IDE doing that if i do not wat to know?
>

How's this idea Ben? ....
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/hide-return-codes

That adds GB_NO_ERROR_WARN=1 as an Env that will suppress the messages if i
want.

Respects
BruceS
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 29 02:56:06 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 02:56:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can i disable the return code error message?
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCO=TLFj7vRatpfm9-hHsKYgXhjf0=kC442i9BQWktuMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCB3asTF5PYyZaKM0UB+rxp+NTmJ47HntE2CF=aFCf-oBQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9c3f92f8-7d5d-e8f6-fbab-d25b1f542bf0@gmail.com>

Le 29/01/2022 ? 02:26, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at 20:25, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     I have a program that if the user clicks cancel it returns error
>     code 125 (operation cancelled)
> 
>     now every time i run it through the IDE it pops up a message telling
>     me it returned an error code.
> 
>     Can i stop the IDE doing that if i do not wat to know?
> 
> 
> How's this idea Ben? ....
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/hide-return-codes 
> <https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/hide-return-codes>
> 
> That adds GB_NO_ERROR_WARN=1 as an Env that will suppress the messages 
> if i want.
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

It's better to add a debugging option to the IDE.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Sat Jan 29 03:49:52 2022
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 02:49:52 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] crosscompiling for aarch64 (pinephone)
In-Reply-To: <66605c44125762254e02cc7ce46c4f6e@tiscali.it>
References: <66605c44125762254e02cc7ce46c4f6e@tiscali.it>
Message-ID: <3b88a4c28d88fe31ebce247118a7b288@cenpalab.cu>

January 28, 2022 5:28 PM, roberto.premoli at tiscali.it wrote:

> I bought pinephone with main goal to port on it my programs done in gambas: I still not accept idea
> I cannot use gambas3 on pinephone! So, what next?
> 

Can't you develop with the Gambas IDE on a PC and then compile the project in the pinephone command line?

Regards,
Joe1962


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 29 05:07:50 2022
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 04:07:50 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can i disable the return code error message?
In-Reply-To: <9c3f92f8-7d5d-e8f6-fbab-d25b1f542bf0@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCB3asTF5PYyZaKM0UB+rxp+NTmJ47HntE2CF=aFCf-oBQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCCO=TLFj7vRatpfm9-hHsKYgXhjf0=kC442i9BQWktuMA@mail.gmail.com>
 <9c3f92f8-7d5d-e8f6-fbab-d25b1f542bf0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCA=WO3ZQiijfmwhZrHr7_hruPT9vDL26ZFD2WeguiHMGw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 01:57, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 29/01/2022 ? 02:26, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at 20:25, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     I have a program that if the user clicks cancel it returns error
> >     code 125 (operation cancelled)
> >
> >     now every time i run it through the IDE it pops up a message telling
> >     me it returned an error code.
> >
> >     Can i stop the IDE doing that if i do not wat to know?
> >
> >
> > How's this idea Ben? ....
> > https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/hide-return-codes
> > <https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/hide-return-codes>
> >
> > That adds GB_NO_ERROR_WARN=1 as an Env that will suppress the messages
> > if i want.
> >
> > Respects
> > BruceS
> >
>
> It's better to add a debugging option to the IDE.
>

I've often wanted to do things differently if running my program from the
IDE not for real.

i guess i can just use
$bIsIDE = Not Exist(Application.Path &/ File.Name(Args[0]))
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From james at lixce.com  Fri Jan 28 13:23:11 2022
From: james at lixce.com (james at lixce.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 12:23:11 GMT
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas on the PinePhone
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1643433661.4388.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>

I have 2 PinePhones, just got my PinePhone Pro today and have several Gambas programs running on the PinePhones.  I run Arch on the PinePhone instead of Manjaro. Arch still uses X11 but you SHOULD be able to run under Wayland on Manjaro

My Process:
1.) Code on my Desktop or PineBOOK Pro ( Desktop is X86_64, PBP is aarch64 doesn't matter for pure Gambas)

2.) 'Compile' and test on Desktop or PBP, much easier to troubleshoot

3.) rsync the 'compiled' Gambas executable to the PinePhone.  I have /usr/local/bin set to 0777 to make this easier.

4.) ssh into the PinePhone to start, stop kill etc until I get a reasonably well working app.
(Much easier than trying to type commands into the terminal on the PinePhone.)

5.) When you are satisfied with the app create an installation package, architecture doesn't matter for pure gambas and as long as dependencies are properly set and available on aarch64 then they will be resolved by pacman.

Another Option:
Buy the PinePhone dock and hook up an external monitor, keyboard and mouse.  Will be very slow. I will try this on the PinePhone Pro as soon as I get time, I have a couple of the docks.

Some other pointers for PinePhone:

-- By turning off JIT apps load and execute much faster on the Phone.  I think because the emmc is so slow and reading in gcc takes substantial time.
export GB_NO_JIT=1

-- Screen size is difficult (720x1440), I scale the QT_Font and set the app widow to "Scaled" to make it usable. There are other approaches but I get the clearest display this way.
export QT_FONT_DPI=204

-- qt5ct has some easily applied improvements for scrolbars, sliders etc.
export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct

-- The only way I have found to intercept the phone ringing is to watch /dev/ttyUSB2
$hWatch = New Watch("/dev/ttyUSB2", True) As "WatchMdm"
mmcli has dBus hooks but I really don't want all of the baggage dBus requires

-- Double taps rarely register
I have been playing around with using MouseDrag instead or adding an apply button.

I do everything in Qt5 and know nothing about Gnome, as I never use it.  

Regards,
Jay






From roberto.premoli at tiscali.it  Sat Jan 29 11:05:09 2022
From: roberto.premoli at tiscali.it (roberto.premoli at tiscali.it)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 11:05:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] crosscompiling for aarch64 (pinephone)
In-Reply-To: <3b88a4c28d88fe31ebce247118a7b288@cenpalab.cu>
References: <66605c44125762254e02cc7ce46c4f6e@tiscali.it>
 <3b88a4c28d88fe31ebce247118a7b288@cenpalab.cu>
Message-ID: <5e543f3ed0491b2a5153e6ca152dca9d@tiscali.it>

Il 29.01.2022 03:49 jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu ha scritto:

> January 28, 2022 5:28 PM, roberto.premoli at tiscali.it [1]wrote:
>
>> I bought pinephone with main goal to port on it my programs done in
>> gambas: I still not accept idea I cannot use gambas3 on pinephone! 
>> So,
>> what next?
>
> Can't you develop with the Gambas IDE on a PC and then compile the
> project in the pinephone command line?
>
> Regards,
> Joe1962
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette [2] ]----

can you point me to a howto? i always user graphical interface and i 
don't know how to do in command line.


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From roberto.premoli at tiscali.it  Sat Jan 29 13:11:53 2022
From: roberto.premoli at tiscali.it (roberto.premoli at tiscali.it)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 13:11:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas on the PinePhone
In-Reply-To: <20220129052002.75433203C395@h08.hostsharing.net>
References: <20220129052002.75433203C395@h08.hostsharing.net>
Message-ID: <0c35fbdb2398105112d3d6d1a2d8cab0@tiscali.it>

Il 28.01.2022 13:23 james at lixce.com ha scritto:

thank for your kindly mail and smart suggestion

relate to the follow:

Another Option:
Buy the PinePhone dock and hook up an external monitor, keyboard and
mouse. Will be very slow. I will try this on the PinePhone Pro as soon 
as
I get time, I have a couple of the docks.

i must say I have already a docking station and tried to use it several 
times,
but gambas IDE does not "expand" to fill the screen and it is not 
usable, please
see attach.
If there is some option/trick to make it expand and fit my display, 
please tell me.

Roberto


Con Tiscali Mobile Smart 70 hai 70 GB in 4G, minuti illimitati e 100 
SMS a soli 7,99? al mese http://tisca.li/Smart70

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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Jan 29 17:12:22 2022
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 08:12:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] I added "External Tools" to my gambas :)
In-Reply-To: <233abd2d-8728-fbb6-0df1-4676f9ee5f69@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCDR6wv2pLRvk2iu3YJpDhkM+67gacwSxsacAiF3NciD+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <3e498941-917a-3e1f-5f55-b39fb44969e4@gmail.com>
 <456c6b32120f09c05bb2862638df9435d4d004c9.camel@gmail.com>
 <1643349645.231333875@f30.my.com>
 <233abd2d-8728-fbb6-0df1-4676f9ee5f69@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1803935044.25939.1643472742425.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>



"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jan 28, 2022, at 1:32 AM, Beno?t Minisini g4mba5 at gmail.com wrote:

> Le 28/01/2022 ? 07:00, Brian G a ?crit?:
>> What ever happened to gb.scripter?
>> 
>> It provided may of these functions.
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Brian G
> 
> To use a script as a library, we can use the "gbs3 --plugin" feature.
> 
> But we would need it to generate an executable only if the script has
> changed. Maybe it already checks that?
> 
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Yes scripter only generates an executable when the script changes.

I have been using a script manager to overload the scripts internally
the manager checks when the script changes content, then creates a new class name compiles it and loads it,but manages the access to the class/object through the management interface.
Then the next time the program runs the updated script becomes the new base.

I attach a sample program using that management class

Example :

 Scripts("PrintAnything")
  Scripts("ToLower")
  Dim myfile As String = File.Load(User.home &/ ".gambasscripts/ToLower")
  myfile = Replace(myfile, "next", "next\nPrint \"added at " & Str(Now) & "\"")
  File.Save(User.home &/ ".gambasscripts/ToLower", myfile)
  Scripts("ToUpper")
  Scripts("ListClasses")
  With Scripts
    !PrintAnything([1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6])
    Print !ToLower("THIS IS BIG AND UCASE")
    !ListClasses()                                         ' check the list of classes
    Scripts("ToLower")                                     ' recompile the updated script
    Print !ToLower("THIS IS BIG AND UCASE")
    !ListClasses()                                         ' check the list of classes
  End With
  
  Print "The next time you run the program then the script is the original class"



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From james at lixce.com  Sat Jan 29 05:25:55 2022
From: james at lixce.com (james at lixce.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 04:25:55 GMT
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas on the PinePhone
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1643488081.11682.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>

Roberto,

Manjaro cannot install Gambas from the repos at the moment.  I am compiling on the PineBook and will install manually on the new phone that still has Wayland.  Looks like there is no keyboard-mouse combination to move and resize windows under Wayland like Alt+LeftButton to move and Alt+RightButton to resize under X11.  The straight Arch PinePhone setup uses X11 so that might be an option for you.  I have not wiped the default Manjaro+KDE on the PinePhone Pro yet so I will see if I can figure anything out there after I finish compiling Gambas.

Guess I should setup one of the older PinePhones with Wayland so I can make sure things work. I'm really trying to avoid Wayland as long as possible.

ArrivedeLa,

Jay


From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Sat Jan 29 21:38:28 2022
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 20:38:28 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] crosscompiling for aarch64 (pinephone)
In-Reply-To: <5e543f3ed0491b2a5153e6ca152dca9d@tiscali.it>
References: <5e543f3ed0491b2a5153e6ca152dca9d@tiscali.it>
 <66605c44125762254e02cc7ce46c4f6e@tiscali.it>
 <3b88a4c28d88fe31ebce247118a7b288@cenpalab.cu>
Message-ID: <4ae27400b0a3ee7830ae9b14f370ba26@cenpalab.cu>

January 29, 2022 5:05 AM, roberto.premoli at tiscali.it wrote:

> Il 29.01.2022 03:49 jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu ha scritto:
> 
>> January 28, 2022 5:28 PM, roberto.premoli at tiscali.it [1]wrote:
>> 
>>> I bought pinephone with main goal to port on it my programs done in
>>> gambas: I still not accept idea I cannot use gambas3 on pinephone!
>>> So,
>>> what next?
>> 
>> Can't you develop with the Gambas IDE on a PC and then compile the
>> project in the pinephone command line?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Joe1962
>> 
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette [2] ]----
> 
> can you point me to a howto? i always user graphical interface and i
> don't know how to do in command line.
> 


Well, I found this thread:

https://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/message/26813193/

But james at lixce.com is right, compiled gambas code should be like java, as long as the interpreter is there, it should run on any architecture.

Regards,
Joe1962


From sharon at 455.co.il  Sun Jan 30 11:19:52 2022
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 12:19:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
In-Reply-To: <20220123110547.M99236@455.co.il>
References: <20220111133837.M22180@455.co.il>
 <b1645f83-7e0f-c809-0069-ee504838930d@gmail.com>
 <20220123110547.M99236@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <20220130100739.M245@455.co.il>

Hello

When I use:
System.guage = "he_il"
It makes all the controls their shape by language (right to left)

If I run the project twice (after doing MAKE EXECUTABLE)
It changes the language in each project without changing the other project

If so it seems possible in addition to the new DIRECTION attribute maybe add another attribute to each control
Control.Language

And so it will be possible to perform on each control on its own the language
(Sorry in advance if I write nonsense due to lack of understanding)

Thank you so much for the help

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Mayost Sharon" <sharon at 455.co.il>
To: Gambas Mailing List <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Sent: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:20:44 +0200
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT

> Hello
> 
> I installed the version:
> Gambas 3 version on / trunk
> On Mint
> As he suggested to me: Bruce Steers
> 
> I created a new GTK + 3 project
> I put on a form: a combobox control
> I set the Direction property=RightToLeft
> And the control still remains from left to right:
> 1. If I write text "1234" it is still written close to the left
> 
> 2. Even the control itself is still visible as left to right because I see the 
> button of the combo box is on the right side and not on the left side
> 
> I enclose an example of what it looks like in HTML
> 
> Thank you
> 
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
> To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
> Sent: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:43:08 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
> 
> > Le 11/01/2022 ? 14:46, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> > > Hello
> > > 
> > > Is there any way to incorporate mixed right-to-left support in GTK or QT implementation
> > > 
> > > In the GTK documentation as well as in the QT documentation I see that they support for all their controls can be done RTL or LTR direction
> > > To each control on its own
> > > 
> > > Thank you
> > > On the investment a lot
> > >
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Right-to-left text direction support at control level has been 
> > implemented in master.
> > 
> > You have now two properties:
> > 
> > - 'Control.Direction' that defines the text direction of the control, 
> > and all its children.
> > 
> > - 'Control.RightToLeft' that returns if a control is right-to-left oriented.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > -- 
> > Beno?t Minisini
> > 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> ------- End of Original Message -------
------- End of Original Message -------


From sharon at 455.co.il  Sun Jan 30 20:28:12 2022
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 21:28:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3 version on /trunk
In-Reply-To: <20220130100739.M245@455.co.il>
References: <20220111133837.M22180@455.co.il>
 <b1645f83-7e0f-c809-0069-ee504838930d@gmail.com>
 <20220123110547.M99236@455.co.il> <20220130100739.M245@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <20220130192018.M19164@455.co.il>

Hello

I installed today NEW Linux Mint version 20.3 64BIT

I tried to install GAMBAS3

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install gambas3

When I try to run gambas3
It gives an error:
Unable to compile JIT source file

A week or weeks ago I tried and it worked well

Is there a way to fix this

Thanks

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 00:37:47 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 00:37:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
In-Reply-To: <20220123110547.M99236@455.co.il>
References: <20220111133837.M22180@455.co.il>
 <b1645f83-7e0f-c809-0069-ee504838930d@gmail.com>
 <20220123110547.M99236@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <c286d32e-64a7-eb9a-830d-73ae04518387@gmail.com>

Le 23/01/2022 ? 12:20, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> Hello
> 
> I installed the version:
> Gambas 3 version on / trunk
> On Mint
> As he suggested to me: Bruce Steers
> 
> I created a new GTK + 3 project
> I put on a form: a combobox control
> I set the Direction property=RightToLeft
> And the control still remains from left to right:

It should be fixed by commit 
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/1a05e73d1a5ded33757d50ec77d9e073c525348d.

> 1. If I write text "1234" it is still written close to the left

It's complex. The text edition controls follow the language of each 
character for text direction, i.e. they support mixing ltr and rtl 
languages.

> 2. Even the control itself is still visible as left to right because I see the button of the combo box is on the right side and not on the left side

This should have been fixed by the commit above.

> 
> I enclose an example of what it looks like in HTML

Why don't you post a screenshot instead?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 00:40:23 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 00:40:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Right-to-left support in GTK OR QT
In-Reply-To: <20220130100739.M245@455.co.il>
References: <20220111133837.M22180@455.co.il>
 <b1645f83-7e0f-c809-0069-ee504838930d@gmail.com>
 <20220123110547.M99236@455.co.il> <20220130100739.M245@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <62e1e324-dced-fefa-4ce6-1286609cf80e@gmail.com>

Le 30/01/2022 ? 11:19, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> Hello
> 
> When I use:
> System.guage = "he_il"
> It makes all the controls their shape by language (right to left)
> 
> If I run the project twice (after doing MAKE EXECUTABLE)
> It changes the language in each project without changing the other project
> 
> If so it seems possible in addition to the new DIRECTION attribute maybe add another attribute to each control
> Control.Language
> 
> And so it will be possible to perform on each control on its own the language
> (Sorry in advance if I write nonsense due to lack of understanding)
> 
> Thank you so much for the help
> 

It should not be needed. As I said in my previous answer, text controls 
are not language-dependent. They support mix of LTR and RTL characters, 
so their internal direction depends on the displayed text.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 06:58:41 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 16:28:41 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gridview_data - when is it finished?
Message-ID: <cf6d1e02178dc0e70e14a1a2c951f9519af4ffa9.camel@gmail.com>

Is there a way to detect when the gridview_data events have all
finished?

I have a db query that returns between a few and upto 11,000 rows, so I
am loading the grid using the data event handler. After all the visible
grid rows are loaded I need to do some summary processing.

It would be rediculous to do it after each cell is loaded. But how do I
know when it is finished (for the moment)?

tia
b


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 08:28:08 2022
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:58:08 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] A request for SQLRequest
Message-ID: <61c07e0bcc9b73796b9990bf39638dadd4053ef3.camel@gmail.com>

Could we have a "DISTINCT" option in the Select() function please?

b


From hans at gambas-buch.de  Mon Jan 31 13:54:31 2022
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:54:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] FTPClient - Operation RENAME
Message-ID: <4dd3cd8f-497e-b285-8db0-eb9f0a07970f@gambas-buch.de>


Hello,

I have the following folder structure on my local FTP server (vsFTPd 
3.0.3) with the relevant substructure:

/k28
??? k28.1
??? ??? k28.1.1
??? ??? k28.1.2
??? k28.2
??? ??? k28.2.1
??? ??? k28.2.2
??? ??? k28.2.4
??? k28.3
 ??? ??? k28.3.1

For renaming the directory k28.2.4 to k28.2.3 I use the following source 
code(-section) and the FTPClient:

Public Sub tobtnRenameServerDir_Click()

 ??? Dim FRename As New FRename

 ??? Dim sOldDirName, sNewDirName, sText, sCommand, sParamOld, 
sParamNew, sPath As String
 ??? Dim aPaths, aBasis As String[]
 ??? Dim i As Integer

'-- If there is no selected element, then cancel ...
 ??? If Not trvServerDirectories.Key Then Return

 ??? aPaths = Split(trvServerDirectories.Key, "/")
 ??? sOldDirName = aPaths.Last
 ??? aPaths.Extract(aPaths.Count - 1)
 ??? sPath = "/" &/ aPaths.Join("/")

'-- Dialog for entering the new directory name (Form: FTPRename)
 ??? sNewDirName = FRename(sOldDirName, ("Rename Server Directory"))

 ??? sParamOld = sFTPServerInitialPath &/ trvServerDirectories.Key? (= 
k28/k28.2/k28.2.4)
 ??? sParamNew = sFTPServerInitialPath &/ sPath &/ sNewDirName????? (= 
k28/k28.2/k28.2.3)

 ??? Inc Application.Busy
 ????? hFTPClient.Async = False
 ?????? 'hFTPClient.Exec(["RNFR " & noSlash(sParamOld), "RNTO " & 
noSlash(sParamNew)])?? *
 ??????? hFTPClient.Exec(["RENAME " & noSlash(sParamOld) & " " & 
noSlash(sParamNew)])??? **
 ??????? hFTPClient.Async = True
 ??? Dec Application.Busy

 ??? If hFTPClient.ErrorText Then
 ?????? Message.Error("The server reports the following error:\n" & 
hFTPClient.ErrorText)
 ??? Endif

 ??? txbServerDir.Text = sPath &/ sNewDirName

 ??? GetServerList()
 ??? ShowServerDirectories()
 ??? ShowServerFiles()

End

Private Function noSlash(sValue As String) As String
 ??? Return IIf(sValue = "/", "", IIf(Left(sValue, 1) = "/", Mid(sValue, 
2), sValue))
End

Renaming the directory always ends with an error:

*
The server reports the following error:
Access denied to remote resource

But the directory is renamed anyway! Strange!?

**
The server reports the following error:
Quote command returned error

The directory will NOT be renamed!

Where is the error?

With kind regards

Hans

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 19:09:13 2022
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:09:13 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gridview_data - when is it finished?
In-Reply-To: <cf6d1e02178dc0e70e14a1a2c951f9519af4ffa9.camel@gmail.com>
References: <cf6d1e02178dc0e70e14a1a2c951f9519af4ffa9.camel@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <787b84b0-1d5d-88bb-79d2-ab1efb454a93@gmail.com>

On 1/31/22 00:58, bb wrote:
> Is there a way to detect when the gridview_data events have all
> finished?
> 
> I have a db query that returns between a few and upto 11,000 rows, so I
> am loading the grid using the data event handler. After all the visible
> grid rows are loaded I need to do some summary processing.
> 
> It would be rediculous to do it after each cell is loaded. But how do I
> know when it is finished (for the moment)?
> 
> tia
> b

I don't have an answer to your question. But, it seems to me that it would not be necessary to know when the Data events have 
finished. Isn't it logical to assume that they would be finished at, or close enough to, the time when the loop you use to 
iterate over the dataset is finished?

If you think that is not a safe assumption, perhaps you could use a Timer set to an appropriate value and simply Restart it 
within the Data event.

Or, do your summary processing on the dataset itself and let the gridview fill its data in whatever time it pleases.


-- 
Lee

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 19:23:47 2022
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 19:23:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] FTPClient - Operation RENAME
In-Reply-To: <4dd3cd8f-497e-b285-8db0-eb9f0a07970f@gambas-buch.de>
References: <4dd3cd8f-497e-b285-8db0-eb9f0a07970f@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <7733855b-df00-97a1-a08b-1f4d14c1bc27@gmail.com>

Le 31/01/2022 ? 13:54, Hans Lehmann a ?crit?:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have the following folder structure on my local FTP server (vsFTPd 
> 3.0.3) with the relevant substructure:
> 
> /k28
> ??? k28.1
> ??? ??? k28.1.1
> ??? ??? k28.1.2
> ??? k28.2
> ??? ??? k28.2.1
> ??? ??? k28.2.2
> ??? ??? k28.2.4
> ??? k28.3
>  ??? ??? k28.3.1
> 
> For renaming the directory k28.2.4 to k28.2.3 I use the following source 
> code(-section) and the FTPClient:
> 
> Public Sub tobtnRenameServerDir_Click()
> 
>  ??? Dim FRename As New FRename
> 
>  ??? Dim sOldDirName, sNewDirName, sText, sCommand, sParamOld, 
> sParamNew, sPath As String
>  ??? Dim aPaths, aBasis As String[]
>  ??? Dim i As Integer
> 
> '-- If there is no selected element, then cancel ...
>  ??? If Not trvServerDirectories.Key Then Return
> 
>  ??? aPaths = Split(trvServerDirectories.Key, "/")
>  ??? sOldDirName = aPaths.Last
>  ??? aPaths.Extract(aPaths.Count - 1)
>  ??? sPath = "/" &/ aPaths.Join("/")
> 
> '-- Dialog for entering the new directory name (Form: FTPRename)
>  ??? sNewDirName = FRename(sOldDirName, ("Rename Server Directory"))
> 
>  ??? sParamOld = sFTPServerInitialPath &/ trvServerDirectories.Key? (= 
> k28/k28.2/k28.2.4)
>  ??? sParamNew = sFTPServerInitialPath &/ sPath &/ sNewDirName????? (= 
> k28/k28.2/k28.2.3)
> 
>  ??? Inc Application.Busy
>  ????? hFTPClient.Async = False
>  ?????? 'hFTPClient.Exec(["RNFR " & noSlash(sParamOld), "RNTO " & 
> noSlash(sParamNew)])?? *
>  ??????? hFTPClient.Exec(["RENAME " & noSlash(sParamOld) & " " & 
> noSlash(sParamNew)])??? **
>  ??????? hFTPClient.Async = True
>  ??? Dec Application.Busy
> 
>  ??? If hFTPClient.ErrorText Then
>  ?????? Message.Error("The server reports the following error:\n" & 
> hFTPClient.ErrorText)
>  ??? Endif
> 
>  ??? txbServerDir.Text = sPath &/ sNewDirName
> 
>  ??? GetServerList()
>  ??? ShowServerDirectories()
>  ??? ShowServerFiles()
> 
> End
> 
> Private Function noSlash(sValue As String) As String
>  ??? Return IIf(sValue = "/", "", IIf(Left(sValue, 1) = "/", Mid(sValue, 
> 2), sValue))
> End
> 
> Renaming the directory always ends with an error:
> 
> *
> The server reports the following error:
> Access denied to remote resource
> 
> But the directory is renamed anyway! Strange!?
> 
> **
> The server reports the following error:
> Quote command returned error
> 
> The directory will NOT be renamed!
> 
> Where is the error?
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Hans
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

No idea. Do you have the same errors if you use the "curl" command 
directly? (The Gambas 'FtpClient' is the FTP client of the libcurl library).

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 22:42:49 2022
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 22:42:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gridview_data - when is it finished?
In-Reply-To: <787b84b0-1d5d-88bb-79d2-ab1efb454a93@gmail.com>
References: <cf6d1e02178dc0e70e14a1a2c951f9519af4ffa9.camel@gmail.com>
 <787b84b0-1d5d-88bb-79d2-ab1efb454a93@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFZKeY-o-g+-5ASP5eC+EbLEqdOhbUquC33ut0ROn+e8Hw@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno lun 31 gen 2022 alle ore 19:10 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On 1/31/22 00:58, bb wrote:
> > Is there a way to detect when the gridview_data events have all
> > finished?
> >
> > I have a db query that returns between a few and upto 11,000 rows, so I
> > am loading the grid using the data event handler. After all the visible
> > grid rows are loaded I need to do some summary processing.
> >
> > It would be rediculous to do it after each cell is loaded. But how do I
> > know when it is finished (for the moment)?
> >
> > tia
> > b
>
> I don't have an answer to your question. But, it seems to me that it would
> not be necessary to know when the Data events have
> finished. Isn't it logical to assume that they would be finished at, or
> close enough to, the time when the loop you use to
> iterate over the dataset is finished?
>
> If you think that is not a safe assumption, perhaps you could use a Timer
> set to an appropriate value and simply Restart it
> within the Data event.
>
> Or, do your summary processing on the dataset itself and let the gridview
> fill its data in whatever time it pleases.
>
>
> --
> Lee
>

But I don't understand the question, 11000 tuple for the GridView_Data
event are nothing and elaborates them in a few tenths of a second.

Regards & Good Night
Gianluigi
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