From charlie at cogier.com  Thu Jul  1 18:37:52 2021
From: charlie at cogier.com (Charlie Ogier)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 17:37:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as expected
Message-ID: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>

Hi,

Can you try this code and see if you experience my problem. The program 
should end on clicking the button, but it doesn't close until the end of 
the 'Sub'.

Thanks,

Charlie

***Code***
Button1 As Button

Public Sub Form_Open()

 ? With Me
 ??? .Height = 400
 ??? .Width = 500
 ??? .Padding = 5
 ??? .Center
 ? End With

 ? With Button1 = New Button(Me) As "Button1"
 ??? .W = 100
 ??? .H = 28
 ??? .X = 10
 ??? .Y = 10
 ??? .Text = "&Click me!"
 ? End With

End

Public Sub Button1_Click()

 ? Dim iLoop As Integer

 ? Me.Close '' Shouldn't the program stop here?

 ? For iLoop = 0 To 1000
 ??? Print Str(iLoop) & " Hello"
 ? Next

End

***End code***

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 19:04:26 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 02:34:26 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as expected
In-Reply-To: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
References: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
Message-ID: <ba6d48883374a71055c64505049f6bd0a8e925ed.camel@gmail.com>

On Thu, 2021-07-01 at 17:37 +0100, Charlie Ogier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can you try this code and see if you experience my problem. The
> program 
> should end on clicking the button, but it doesn't close until the end
> of 
> the 'Sub'.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Charlie
> 
> ***Code***
> Button1 As Button
> 
> Public Sub Form_Open()
> 
>    With Me
>      .Height = 400
>      .Width = 500
>      .Padding = 5
>      .Center
>    End With
> 
>    With Button1 = New Button(Me) As "Button1"
>      .W = 100
>      .H = 28
>      .X = 10
>      .Y = 10
>      .Text = "&Click me!"
>    End With
> 
> End
> 
> Public Sub Button1_Click()
> 
>    Dim iLoop As Integer
> 
>    Me.Close '' Shouldn't the program stop here?
> 
>    For iLoop = 0 To 1000
>      Print Str(iLoop) & " Hello"
>    Next
> 
> End
> 
> ***End code***
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

You are just closing the form, not the executing instance of the
project.
If you really want to "kill" the execution, then use Quit.




From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 19:13:24 2021
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 19:13:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as expected
In-Reply-To: <ba6d48883374a71055c64505049f6bd0a8e925ed.camel@gmail.com>
References: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
 <ba6d48883374a71055c64505049f6bd0a8e925ed.camel@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbcrtZhj-v1YsCt1=a_4MFVuGws_gEz5u=FsYHWdDhHGA@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno gio 1 lug 2021 alle ore 19:05 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On Thu, 2021-07-01 at 17:37 +0100, Charlie Ogier wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can you try this code and see if you experience my problem. The
> > program
> > should end on clicking the button, but it doesn't close until the end
> > of
> > the 'Sub'.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > ***Code***
> > Button1 As Button
> >
> > Public Sub Form_Open()
> >
> >    With Me
> >      .Height = 400
> >      .Width = 500
> >      .Padding = 5
> >      .Center
> >    End With
> >
> >    With Button1 = New Button(Me) As "Button1"
> >      .W = 100
> >      .H = 28
> >      .X = 10
> >      .Y = 10
> >      .Text = "&Click me!"
> >    End With
> >
> > End
> >
> > Public Sub Button1_Click()
> >
> >    Dim iLoop As Integer
> >
> >    Me.Close '' Shouldn't the program stop here?
> >
> >    For iLoop = 0 To 1000
> >      Print Str(iLoop) & " Hello"
> >    Next
> >
> > End
> >
> > ***End code***
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> You are just closing the form, not the executing instance of the
> project.
> If you really want to "kill" the execution, then use Quit.
>
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

i think that you should add this, the use of quit in graphics programs is
not recommended:

Private $bStop As Boolean

  Public Sub Button1_Click()

  Dim iLoop As Integer

  Me.Close '' Shouldn't the program stop here?
  $bStop = True

  For iLoop = 0 To 1000
    Print Str(iLoop) & " Hello"
    If $bStop Then Break
  Next

End

Regards

Gianluigi
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 19:19:14 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 02:49:14 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as expected
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFbcrtZhj-v1YsCt1=a_4MFVuGws_gEz5u=FsYHWdDhHGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
 <ba6d48883374a71055c64505049f6bd0a8e925ed.camel@gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFbcrtZhj-v1YsCt1=a_4MFVuGws_gEz5u=FsYHWdDhHGA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1a5b1ba3ed0a44af834f295d35d0a72363c79d40.camel@gmail.com>

On Thu, 2021-07-01 at 19:13 +0200, Gianluigi wrote:
> i think that you should add this, the use of quit in graphics
> programs is not recommended:

By whom? Where?

Given the example code from Charlie, I can't see any problems with
Quit(). When I ran it with Quit() under valgrind there were no leftover
mallocs which would seem to me to be the only possible problem.

Just askin'
b


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 19:58:11 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 18:58:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as expected
In-Reply-To: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
References: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCNBVH8xa4bD8+BzWLgY-hD8nWGo6v5NMA4=P8cBt8+BQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 at 17:59, Charlie Ogier <charlie at cogier.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can you try this code and see if you experience my problem. The program
> should end on clicking the button, but it doesn't close until the end of
> the 'Sub'.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie
>
> ***Code***
> Button1 As Button
>
> Public Sub Form_Open()
>
>    With Me
>      .Height = 400
>      .Width = 500
>      .Padding = 5
>      .Center
>    End With
>
>    With Button1 = New Button(Me) As "Button1"
>      .W = 100
>      .H = 28
>      .X = 10
>      .Y = 10
>      .Text = "&Click me!"
>    End With
>
> End
>
> Public Sub Button1_Click()
>
>    Dim iLoop As Integer
>
>    Me.Close '' Shouldn't the program stop here?
>
>    For iLoop = 0 To 1000
>      Print Str(iLoop) & " Hello"
>    Next
>
> End
>
> ***End code***
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

Maybe it's because you're inside an event already.
Maybe Button1_Click event has to finish before the form can close.

so does this work as expected..

Me.Close  ' trigger close event
Return  ' exit the current event

BruceS
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From tobs at taboege.de  Thu Jul  1 20:01:43 2021
From: tobs at taboege.de (Tobias Boege)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 20:01:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as expected
In-Reply-To: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
References: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
Message-ID: <20210701180143.GC557112@T580.localdomain>

On Thu, 01 Jul 2021, Charlie Ogier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can you try this code and see if you experience my problem. The program
> should end on clicking the button, but it doesn't close until the end of the
> 'Sub'.
> 
> ***Code***
> Button1 As Button
> 
> Public Sub Button1_Click()
> 
> ? Dim iLoop As Integer
> 
> ? Me.Close '' Shouldn't the program stop here?
> 
> ? For iLoop = 0 To 1000
> ??? Print Str(iLoop) & " Hello"
> ? Next
> 
> End
> 
> ***End code***
> 

It happens on my Gambas, too. Let me give you an explanation of why I think
this is the expected behavior, on top of the practical advice by the others.

I think what happens is the following. You call the Close method on a Window
object. Gambas delegates this to the underlying GUI toolkit. In the case of
gb.qt5, apparently this sends a close event to the QT window object. Now,
Gambas installs a QT event handler for this close event. This is necessary
to support the Form_Close event on the Gambas level. The window cannot be
closed before the Gambas programmer had a chance to react to the Close event
in Gambas. Thus, it is necessary that the window does not close immediately.

gb.qt5 posts the Form_Close event to the event queue of Gambas. The event
is *not* raised immediately from there, but only when you next enter the
Gambas event loop. This does not happen from native C++ code and it does
not happen either when passing between Gambas and native code. So, the
window is kept alive for yet a little longer. Namely until your current
event handler, Button1_Click, finished executing. This is why you see the
result of the Print statements.

We have this chain of events:

  Button1_Click happens
    --> Me.Close() is executed
      --> gb.qt5 closes the window
        --> close is intercepted by gb.qt5
        --> Form_Close event is posted
      --> gb.qt5 call returns
    --> rest of Button1_Click code is executed
  --> after Click event is processed, event loop is re-entered
  Form_Close is processed
  Window can be finally closed and program terminates

This all has to do with certain guarantees Gambas makes (not sure if they
are documented though) about processing events and at which points it is
considered safe to re-enter the event loop. Even though the Gambas inter-
preter is a single-threaded application, recursively entering the event
loop is a kind of parallelism, which most Gambas code and Gambas components
are not prepared to handle. Most Gambas code is not "reentrant" and you
should be thankful that you don't have to worry about that, usually.
As a rule of thumb, events are only processed when you are not currently
running code from an event handler or when you ask for it explicitly by
using the Wait instruction.

Let me give you an example of what I mean by "it is too unsafe to run the
event loop from a native component". Suppose a native component (or any
component, really) has a function F which you can call to do something
meaningful and which does re-enter the event loop. Suppose you are in a
Socket_Read() event -- some data arrived on your socket. You call the
function F because your program requires its functionality. It re-enters
the event loop. But you haven't read all the data of your socket yet,
so the Socket_Read event fires again, which causes your event handler
to recurse into F, fire the Socket_Read event again... Within a second,
the function call stack is exhausted and your program crashes with a
segfault.

Note that even if you did read all the data in the socket before calling
F in this example, more data might have arrived in the meantime. This new
data is now processed before you unwind back to the original data. Thus
you end up processing the data in the wrong order! Writing programs which
are reentrant is hard. Be happy that Gambas doesn't make you do it.

Finally, my advice would be to use

  Me.Close()
  Return

if you want the closing to take place as soon as possible.

Best,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 20:08:40 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 03:38:40 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as expected
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCNBVH8xa4bD8+BzWLgY-hD8nWGo6v5NMA4=P8cBt8+BQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
 <CABuQYCCNBVH8xa4bD8+BzWLgY-hD8nWGo6v5NMA4=P8cBt8+BQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <abae3a00e1e7d8d35ea0d2990b901c3dbc545476.camel@gmail.com>

On Thu, 2021-07-01 at 18:58 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> 
> 
> Maybe it's because you're inside an event already.
> Maybe Button1_Click event has to finish before the form can close.
> 
> so does this work as expected..
> 
> Me.Close  ' trigger close event
> Return  ' exit the current event
> 
> BruceS
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

It's another "Read every word ..." message, I'm afraid.

>From Window.Close (which is what Me.Close is calling)

"Closes the window, and returns an optional integer val....."

"Closes the window" != "Ends the program"

:-)
b


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 20:26:58 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 03:56:58 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as expected
In-Reply-To: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
References: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
Message-ID: <a2f7d49d673ba82b96bca059e3458d409c0639a9.camel@gmail.com>

On Thu, 2021-07-01 at 17:37 +0100, Charlie Ogier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can you try this code and see if you experience my problem. The
> program 
> should end on clicking the button, but it doesn't close until the end
> of 
> the 'Sub'.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Charlie
> 
> ***Code***
> Button1 As Button
> 
> Public Sub Form_Open()
> 
>    With Me
>      .Height = 400
>      .Width = 500
>      .Padding = 5
>      .Center
>    End With
> 
>    With Button1 = New Button(Me) As "Button1"
>      .W = 100
>      .H = 28
>      .X = 10
>      .Y = 10
>      .Text = "&Click me!"
>    End With
> 
> End
> 
> Public Sub Button1_Click()
> 
>    Dim iLoop As Integer
> 
>    Me.Close '' Shouldn't the program stop here?
> 
>    For iLoop = 0 To 1000
>      Print Str(iLoop) & " Hello"
>    Next
> 
> End
> 
> ***End code***
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
Try this for fun and education.

Public Sub Button1_Click()

  Me.Persistent = True ' Just prevents the window object becoming
invalid
  
  Me.Close 
  
  Me.X = Rand(0, Screen.W)
  Me.Y = Rand(0, Screen.H)
  Me.Show 

End


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 21:08:20 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 04:38:20 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as expected
In-Reply-To: <20210701180143.GC557112@T580.localdomain>
References: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
 <20210701180143.GC557112@T580.localdomain>
Message-ID: <cc2ea84c426887bdb9dae868ab0aaaad3a2558ba.camel@gmail.com>

On Thu, 2021-07-01 at 20:01 +0200, Tobias Boege via User wrote:
> Finally, my advice would be to use
> 
> 
> 
>   Me.Close()
> 
>   Return
> 
> 
> 
> if you want the closing to take place as soon as possible.
or just don't put anything after the Me.Close().

Which is what "we" all normally do and is probably why "we" expect that
Me.Close() is the same as "exit the program".

As you say, this (Brian's code) is expected behaviour. But just to
finish off this topic (and I think you have alluded to some of these):

	The program will loop then while:
	There is a Process that runs.
	There is a Timer that is enabled.
	There is a File that is watched.
	There is at least one toplevel Window that was created.

( That is straight from ^cat*eventloop. )

Notice that last sentence, particularly "at least one" and "was
created" and note that it doesn't say "The main toplevel Window is no
longer visible." even if your brains "insist" that is what it says. :-)

Anyway, that is why I keep harping on about this "read every word"
business. 

cheers all! (my coffee is ready)
b


From dovey.john at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 22:01:48 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 15:01:48 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Railroad Diagrams
Message-ID: <CALb7m+nc32+hVhtQXsZ2wuUNJRhMsDPYD3z8d+XYWdiZt0Psvg@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone think this would be a worthwhile exercise to create these
for Gambas?
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From dovey.john at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 22:59:43 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 15:59:43 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Railroad Diagrams
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For those interested, go to
https://www.bottlecaps.de/rr/ui
Choose the  "Edit grammar" tab, paste in the contents of the attached file
and click on "View Diagram".
JD



On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 at 15:01, John Dovey <dovey.john at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone think this would be a worthwhile exercise to create these
> for Gambas?
>
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From tercoide at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  1 23:00:15 2021
From: tercoide at hotmail.com (martin p cristia)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 18:00:15 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as ( I :) expected
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1625169722.24519.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
References: <mailman.1.1625169722.24519.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <DM6PR12MB3946A1E6ADC6FD6AAACB2133C8009@DM6PR12MB3946.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

Great reading. I was having "not closing" stubborn programs!

El 7/1/21 a las 5:02 PM, user-request at lists.gambas-basic.org escribi?:
> As you say, this (Brian's code) is expected behaviour. But just to
> finish off this topic (and I think you have alluded to some of these):
>
> 	The program will loop then while:
> 	There is a Process that runs.
> 	There is a Timer that is enabled.
> 	There is a File that is watched.
> 	There is at least one toplevel Window that was created.
>
> ( That is straight from ^cat*eventloop. )
>
> Notice that last sentence, particularly "at least one" and "was
> created" and note that it doesn't say "The main toplevel Window is no
> longer visible." even if your brains "insist" that is what it says.:-)
>
> Anyway, that is why I keep harping on about this "read every word"
> business.

-- 
Saludos

Ing. Martin P Cristia


From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 23:35:05 2021
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 23:35:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as ( I :) expected
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References: <mailman.1.1625169722.24519.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
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Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFa5i0NQ=bzo4tCVncOofNKMKQveUCVfO8u0DXmeo6iWMQ@mail.gmail.com>

I read everything with great interest and enjoyment, thank you.
I just add this, in the Gambas wiki at the quit page (
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/quit ) there is a warning that explains:
This instruction is not very successful in freeing things with GUI
programs. So you should use it only with console applications.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 00:18:45 2021
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 00:18:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.Close not working as expected
In-Reply-To: <cc2ea84c426887bdb9dae868ab0aaaad3a2558ba.camel@gmail.com>
References: <fecc2096-8850-b19e-ce10-0a0d65bfdb82@cogier.com>
 <20210701180143.GC557112@T580.localdomain>
 <cc2ea84c426887bdb9dae868ab0aaaad3a2558ba.camel@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbnB_zVqB2Kh9Kz4AaVVX1THhD0Tjn3tUbygxgidor_1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Charlie,

to understand what I wanted to suggest, you can try this code.
You need a project with an empty class Class1 and a Form with 2 buttons:

Private $bStop As Boolean

  Public Sub Button1_Click()

  Me.Close
  $bStop = True

End

Public Sub Form_Open()

  Dim hClass As New Class1

  Me.Show()
  Do
    Print "Hello"
    Wait 1
    If $bStop Then Break
  Loop

End

Public Sub Button2_Click()

  Me.Close
  Quit

End

in console with Button2 I get:
Hello
Hello
Hello
gbx3 [159986]: warning: circular references detected:
gbx3:     1 Class1
gbx3:     1 FMain
gbx3 [159986]: warning: 4 allocation(s) non freed.

If you write Return instead of Quit, the program continues and does not
close.

Regards

Gianluigi
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Fri Jul  2 08:19:45 2021
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 08:19:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
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Am 30.06.21 um 21:25 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 at 16:50, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de 
> <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
> 
>     Some day in March I last tried around some features in one of my
>     applications. I do not remember why, but I switched off gb.qt4.ext or
>     gb.qt5.ext and changed it to gb.gui.
> 
>     Here the TextEdit is missing. I would need it in one dialog, so now I
>     changed back to gb.qt5 and gb.qt5.ext.
> 
>     There are a lot of small texts (notes) which have been made with
>     TextEdit, and it would be a shame if it missing in future.
> 
>     Can you imagine why I switched? I cannot remember. Maybe I wanted to
>     try
>     something else, but I vaguely remember there was something about Editor
>     or TextEdit, respectively.
> 
>     If it is that TextEdit is no longer supported in future, how to convert
>     already saved texts from RichText to Text?
> 
>     Thanks so much for your help.
> 
>     Rolf
> 
> 
> If you just want to display richtext and not edit it you can use a TextLabel
> 
> BruceS
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Yes I know, but as I said it is a note field, so there is editing.

Over the years, however, it has come out that I do not use the RichText 
features in those notes, so it might be possible to switch to the 
simpler TextArea here. I would need some kind of filter though to 
convert the existing RichTexts into simple texts.

Regards
Rolf


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 12:50:53 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 20:20:53 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Railroad Diagrams
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On Thu, 2021-07-01 at 15:01 -0500, John Dovey wrote:
> Does anyone think this would be a worthwhile exercise to create these
> for Gambas?
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

For Gambas itself, I doubt it. But

Where they could be useful to a developer is when he/she is trying to
define the syntax for their own code. By way of an example, I am
currently trying to define a new interface class for our database
front-end library. 
Our "Load" method front-ends gb.db.Find(la, la, la) with a flexible
method that would allow Finds
* on the primary key
* on a partial key
* on non-pkey criteria
* and negated criteria
Working out the syntax I want, even before "I need", is difficult to
describe textually. Maybe a visual syntax like these railroad diagrams
may be useful.

Some things to note about this type of syntax modelling is that 
1. It is incredibly important to recognize that "the model is not
reality".
2. To justify its use it must be very swift and unintrusive into the
thought process.
3. Sometimes the model can be more confusing than the reality.
4. (Railroad diagrams were useful(?) for procedural languages. I don't
know whether they are fully capable of handling object oriented
languages.)

That's what I thinks.
bruce


From antonio.j.teixeira at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 18:33:24 2021
From: antonio.j.teixeira at gmail.com (Antonio Teixeira)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 17:33:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Missing files in a new instalation gambas 3.16.1 in a
 Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
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Hi everyone,

I am trying to install gambas3 on a new laptop with Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS.
No errors during the installation but when I try to start gambas3 I am
getting this message: gbr3: unable to load component: gb.image

ANy help please?

Thank you

Atentamente / Regards

Ant?nio Teixeira
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 18:41:08 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 18:41:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Missing files in a new instalation gambas 3.16.1
 in a Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
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Le 02/07/2021 ? 18:33, Antonio Teixeira a ?crit?:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am trying to install gambas3 on a new laptop with Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS.
> No errors during the installation but when I try to start gambas3 I am 
> getting this message:?gbr3: unable to load component: gb.image
> 
> ANy help please?
> 

Any information about what you did exactly?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 21:42:31 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2021 05:12:31 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] SQLRequest (Q1 of 2)
Message-ID: <d807393ccd18510e2fecadff97aa34a9a3ab6bff.camel@gmail.com>

I am trying to create an SQLRequest with a literal instead of a column
name as in the following examples

SELECT 1 FROM "mytable";
SELECT 'ME' FROM "mytable";
SELECT 13579 AS seed;
SELECT 'Gambas' AS lang;

Constructs along the lines of
	Print hSQLRequest.Select(1).From("mytable").Get() & ";"
	Print hSQLRequest.Select("ME").From("notable").Get() & ";"
	Print hSQLRequest.Select(13579).Get() & ";"
	Print hSQLRequest.Select("Gambas").Get() & ";"
are just not getting there. (N.B. the above code are examples, not
algorithm.)

The outputs from those samples are 
SELECT "1" FROM "mytable";
SELECT "ME" FROM "notable";
----------------------------------------
ERR: No table specified (-1)
SQLRequest._call.125
SQLRequest.Get.112
----------------------------------------
ERR: No table specified (-1)
SQLRequest._call.125
SQLRequest.Get.112
FMain.Form_Open.29
----------------------------------------

All those SELECTs are valid SQL and commonly used for setting function
(or stored procedure) parameters.

Can SQLRequest do this type of stuff?

regards
bruce


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 22:04:06 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2021 05:34:06 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] SQLRequest (Q2 of 2) Actually a couple of
 questions/wishes
Message-ID: <feb09e739aaefcfa78117751fc0673e08c02b117.camel@gmail.com>

@Benoit

1. Could you please add a Clear() method to the class. (It would be
really handy when building complex sets of queries.) 

2. How about CTE's?
hSQLRequest.With(CTEx).Select(...
where CTEx is another SQLRequest. Now that would be super handy!

3. Joins? Yes, I recognize that one could be difficult.

4. UNION? EXCEPT? INTERSECT?

5. Calling functions or stored procedures with and without parameters?

6. Uniting a whole bunch of SQLReqests, separated by ";" for submission
to the server as a "script"?

regards
bruce


From dovey.john at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 09:06:38 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 02:06:38 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] SQLRequest (Q2 of 2) Actually a couple of
 questions/wishes
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I don?t understand this. I do that routinely with SQLite with a simple
$con.exec(MySQL)
and up to around a hundred sql statements concatted together in MySQL. Just
do a $con.begin before and $con.commit after.


On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 3:05 PM bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> 6. Uniting a whole bunch of SQLReqests, separated by ";" for submission
> to the server as a "script"?
>
> regards
> bruce
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 10:09:10 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2021 17:39:10 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] SQLRequest (Q2 of 2) Actually a couple of
 questions/wishes
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On Sat, 2021-07-03 at 02:06 -0500, John Dovey wrote:
> 
> I don?t understand this. I do that routinely with SQLite with a
> simple $con.exec(MySQL)
> and up to around a hundred sql statements concatted together in
> MySQL. Just do a $con.begin before and $con.commit after.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 3:05 PM bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 6. Uniting a whole bunch of SQLReqests, separated by ";" for
> > submission
> > to the server as a "script"?
> > 
> > regards
> > bruce
> > 
> > 
Ah John, you missed my point. These are suggestions for enhancement of
the SQLRequest class in gb.db, not a "How do I".

I am looking at ways to implement dynamic SQL*. At the moment
SQLRequest only copes with simple single table requests.

BTW you can use it (as it is) with the (pseudo-code) construct:

	Dim hSQL as new SQLRequest
	Dim hRlt as Result
	hRlt = MyConn {or} DB {or} Connections["xyz"].Exec(
hSQl.Select(blah blah).From(blah blah).Where(blah blah) )

regards
bruce

* No comments needed on "dynamic SQL" thanks.


From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 11:15:23 2021
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 11:15:23 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] SQLRequest (Q2 of 2) Actually a couple of
 questions/wishes
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Hi Bruce ,

So you want something like 'In'

I think the good way may look like

hMyNewRequest.In(OtherOne)

or .With(OtherOne)

Request Is a simple constructor not really a true function. It allow
to modify easily part of a requisition.. more than modifying a sql
request string.

But something like the MS request class will be cool.

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 12:16:14 2021
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 12:16:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
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Il giorno ven 2 lug 2021 alle ore 08:20 Rolf-Werner Eilert <
rwe-sse at osnanet.de> ha scritto:

> Am 30.06.21 um 21:25 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 at 16:50, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de
> > <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
> >
> >     Some day in March I last tried around some features in one of my
> >     applications. I do not remember why, but I switched off gb.qt4.ext or
> >     gb.qt5.ext and changed it to gb.gui.
> >
> >     Here the TextEdit is missing. I would need it in one dialog, so now I
> >     changed back to gb.qt5 and gb.qt5.ext.
> >
> >     There are a lot of small texts (notes) which have been made with
> >     TextEdit, and it would be a shame if it missing in future.
> >
> >     Can you imagine why I switched? I cannot remember. Maybe I wanted to
> >     try
> >     something else, but I vaguely remember there was something about
> Editor
> >     or TextEdit, respectively.
> >
> >     If it is that TextEdit is no longer supported in future, how to
> convert
> >     already saved texts from RichText to Text?
> >
> >     Thanks so much for your help.
> >
> >     Rolf
> >
> >
> > If you just want to display richtext and not edit it you can use a
> TextLabel
> >
> > BruceS
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> Yes I know, but as I said it is a note field, so there is editing.
>
> Over the years, however, it has come out that I do not use the RichText
> features in those notes, so it might be possible to switch to the
> simpler TextArea here. I would need some kind of filter though to
> convert the existing RichTexts into simple texts.
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

I have never used textedit but to get only the text you cannot use
TextEdit.Text, or did I not understand the question?
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4.ext/textedit/text

Regards
Gianluigi
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 13:24:26 2021
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 13:24:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
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No, it's about the missing of the widget TextEdit in the new gb.qt5.ext.

It will be cool to be able to write a new widget in gambas for small
rich text editing.

It can't handle big textes but for some ko ones it will be enought.

The difficulties for me will be on wrapping and height management ...
but nothing unreachable for Benoit ;-).

>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----




--
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 13:36:38 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2021 21:06:38 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
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On Sat, 2021-07-03 at 13:24 +0200, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> No, it's about the missing of the widget TextEdit in the new
> gb.qt5.ext.
> 
> It will be cool to be able to write a new widget in gambas for small
> rich text editing.
> 
> It can't handle big textes but for some ko ones it will be enought.
> 
> The difficulties for me will be on wrapping and height management ...
> but nothing unreachable for Benoit ;-).
> 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Fabien Bodard
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
Strange, I thought he asked 

How do I convert a whole lot of "rich text" strings into plain text? In
other words, how to strip out all the markup.

The answer to which I do not know.

b


From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 13:46:27 2021
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 13:46:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
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Il giorno sab 3 lug 2021 alle ore 13:25 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> No, it's about the missing of the widget TextEdit in the new gb.qt5.ext.
>
> It will be cool to be able to write a new widget in gambas for small
> rich text editing.
>
> It can't handle big textes but for some ko ones it will be enought.
>
> The difficulties for me will be on wrapping and height management ...
> but nothing unreachable for Benoit ;-).
>
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
>
>
> --
> Fabien Bodard
>
>
Hi Fabien,

it is nice to hear you again :-)

here with QT5 and Master it works:

Public Sub Form_Open()

  TextEdit1.RichText = "<b>Pippo</b> st? ballando"
  TextArea1.Text = TextEdit1.Text

End

Regards
Gianluigi
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 13:32:00 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2021 21:02:00 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] SQLRequest (Q2 of 2) Actually a couple of
 questions/wishes
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On Sat, 2021-07-03 at 11:15 +0200, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> Hi Bruce ,
> 
> So you want something like 'In'
> 
> I think the good way may look like
> 
> hMyNewRequest.In(OtherOne)
> 
> or .With(OtherOne)
> 
> Request Is a simple constructor not really a true function. It allow
> to modify easily part of a requisition.. more than modifying a sql
> request string.
> 
> But something like the MS request class will be cool.
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Both In and With are reserved words. 

For 2. I could envisage something like 
hSQLRequest.CTE(sqlRequestxyz as SQLRequest).Select(...
where sqlRequestxyz is a previously instantiated SQLRequest

For 6. I dont know, maybe "Compose"
hSQLRequest.Compose(Begin(),q1,q2,q3,Commit()[ Rollback() ])
where each previously created q1,q2 and q3 SQLRequest objects (ie the
string version thereby created) are included, delineated by a ";".

That way the entire transaction could be executed by 
hResult = Conn.Exec(hSQLRequest.Compose(....))
or
bResult = Conn.Exec(hSQLRequest.Compose(....))


b



From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 13:50:33 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2021 21:20:33 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
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Message-ID: <bd6da8c6549a7a70d7872c08aee12d3ebf9c68f0.camel@gmail.com>

On Sat, 2021-07-03 at 13:46 +0200, Gianluigi wrote:

Does it display
	Pippo st? ballando
or
	<b>Pippo</b> st? ballando
?
b


From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 14:05:25 2021
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 14:05:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
In-Reply-To: <bd6da8c6549a7a70d7872c08aee12d3ebf9c68f0.camel@gmail.com>
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Il giorno sab 3 lug 2021 alle ore 13:51 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On Sat, 2021-07-03 at 13:46 +0200, Gianluigi wrote:
>
> Does it display
>         Pippo st? ballando
> or
>         <b>Pippo</b> st? ballando
> ?
> b
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

With this code:

Public Sub Form_Open()

  TextEdit1.RichText = "<b>Pippo</b> st? ballando"
  '----------------------------------------------
  TextArea1.Text = TextEdit1.Text
  TextArea1.Text &= "\n\n" & String(20, "=") & "\n\n"
  TextArea1.Text &= TextEdit1.RichText

End

you get:

Pippo st? ballando

====================

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><meta
http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><style
type="text/css">
p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Ubuntu'; font-size:11pt;
font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style="
font-weight:600;">Pippo</span> st? ballando</p></body></html>

Regards
Gianluigi
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 14:09:49 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2021 21:39:49 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
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On Sat, 2021-07-03 at 14:05 +0200, Gianluigi wrote:
> 
> 
> Il giorno sab 3 lug 2021 alle ore 13:51 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
> > On Sat, 2021-07-03 at 13:46 +0200, Gianluigi wrote:
> > 
> > Does it display
> >         Pippo st? ballando
> > or
> >         <b>Pippo</b> st? ballando
> > ?
> > b
> > 
> > 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> With this code:
> 
> Public Sub Form_Open()
> 
>   TextEdit1.RichText = "<b>Pippo</b> st? ballando"
>   '----------------------------------------------
>   TextArea1.Text = TextEdit1.Text
>   TextArea1.Text &= "\n\n" & String(20, "=") & "\n\n"
>   TextArea1.Text &= TextEdit1.RichText
> 
> End
> 
> you get:
> 
> Pippo st? ballando
> 
> ====================
> 
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "
> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
> <html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><meta http-
> equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><style
> type="text/css">
> p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
> </style></head><body style=" font-family:'Ubuntu'; font-size:11pt;
> font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style="
> font-weight:600;">Pippo</span> st? ballando</p></body></html>
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Aha, now I see what you have done. Nice trick. I'll have to remember
that one for scraping rich text.

b


From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 17:11:57 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 17:11:57 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
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Le 03/07/2021 ? 14:09, bb a ?crit?:
> 
> Aha, now I see what you have done. Nice trick. I'll have to remember
> that one for scraping rich text.
> 
> b
> 

You can use String.FromHTML() from 'gb.util' too. But beware that just a 
few HTML entities are handled. Hopefully, they are less and less 
frequent now that HTML is mostly UTF-8.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From dovey.john at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 17:40:48 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 10:40:48 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Telegram Bot Library
Message-ID: <CALb7m+kSsftyerdhZzDVmdOBBMg1YH2+dZ4Z9tAm+7pg2V9LgA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I have to make a choice again between writing in vb or Gambas, and
this time it's based on the availability of a library/class whatever
to wrap the Telegram bot API.

Does anyone know of anything like that? Something along those lines?
This is the nuget package I'm looking
at..https://github.com/TelegramBots/telegram.bot
Thanks
John

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 17:49:32 2021
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 17:49:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
In-Reply-To: <afe3842a-f5f9-649a-609d-a9320174514b@gmail.com>
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Il giorno sab 3 lug 2021 alle ore 17:12 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

>
> You can use String.FromHTML() from 'gb.util' too. But beware that just a
> few HTML entities are handled. Hopefully, they are less and less
> frequent now that HTML is mostly UTF-8.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

Hi Benoit,

it seemed to me that it existed! I had looked for it in the wiki and I have
not found it.
I have tried again and the search still does not find it.
Returns this page, see image
[image: Schermata da 2021-07-03 17-42-14.png]
Regards
Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 18:12:44 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 17:12:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
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gb.util / String

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.util/string/fromhtml
wiki does not say much but lists the handled codes
BruceS

On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 at 16:50, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Il giorno sab 3 lug 2021 alle ore 17:12 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>>
>> You can use String.FromHTML() from 'gb.util' too. But beware that just a
>> few HTML entities are handled. Hopefully, they are less and less
>> frequent now that HTML is mostly UTF-8.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
> Hi Benoit,
>
> it seemed to me that it existed! I had looked for it in the wiki and I
> have not found it.
> I have tried again and the search still does not find it.
> Returns this page, see image
> [image: Schermata da 2021-07-03 17-42-14.png]
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de  Sun Jul  4 12:05:31 2021
From: hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de (Hartmut Wagener)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 12:05:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the editor after update to 3.16.1
Message-ID: <3d382d1e-7005-e317-eacb-d7d6a521fd21@t-online.de>

Hi,

i use arch Linux and have some gambas programs running for my desktop 
convienience.

Gambas is installed using pacman in Arch-Linux by "pacman -S gambas3".

After an update of gambas (or some other tool, i am not sure with this) 
the program changed the behaviour.

It was shown in the center of the screen, now it is located in the 
top-left, and background-color is not set anymore.

Now i tried to edit the code to change an Exec-command to start a new 
version of an installed program, and the editor is unuseable for me.

The cursor is located to a position to add text, but when i enter the 
text, the text is added on a different position of the text.

When i input the numbers 0123456789 the cursor is located more than one 
character to the right of the 9. When i move the cursor from the first 
character to the right, it is somewhere in the middle of the 3 when it 
should be at the beginning of it, when it is located before the 8 the 
press of a key adds the character before the 7.

I have had this problem some years in the past, was on some version of 
Ubuntu, perhaps in 2015. It disappeared, i don't remember what i needed 
to do to get this working, or if it was solved by an update.

I use the Mate-Desktop-environment.

Any hints what can be done to solve this problem?

Thanks a lot for your answers.


From hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de  Sun Jul  4 12:33:07 2021
From: hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de (Hartmut Wagener)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 12:33:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the editor after update to 3.16.1
In-Reply-To: <3d382d1e-7005-e317-eacb-d7d6a521fd21@t-online.de>
References: <3d382d1e-7005-e317-eacb-d7d6a521fd21@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <f0f41114-de23-a72f-667a-e87fd7773174@t-online.de>

I solved the editor-thing, changed the font from "Sans Regular" to 
"Serif Regular"...

So i can look for the next problem... :)

Am 04.07.21 um 12:05 schrieb Hartmut Wagener:
> Hi,
>
> i use arch Linux and have some gambas programs running for my desktop 
> convienience.
>
> Gambas is installed using pacman in Arch-Linux by "pacman -S gambas3".
>
> After an update of gambas (or some other tool, i am not sure with 
> this) the program changed the behaviour.
>
> It was shown in the center of the screen, now it is located in the 
> top-left, and background-color is not set anymore.
>
> Now i tried to edit the code to change an Exec-command to start a new 
> version of an installed program, and the editor is unuseable for me.
>
> The cursor is located to a position to add text, but when i enter the 
> text, the text is added on a different position of the text.
>
> When i input the numbers 0123456789 the cursor is located more than 
> one character to the right of the 9. When i move the cursor from the 
> first character to the right, it is somewhere in the middle of the 3 
> when it should be at the beginning of it, when it is located before 
> the 8 the press of a key adds the character before the 7.
>
> I have had this problem some years in the past, was on some version of 
> Ubuntu, perhaps in 2015. It disappeared, i don't remember what i 
> needed to do to get this working, or if it was solved by an update.
>
> I use the Mate-Desktop-environment.
>
> Any hints what can be done to solve this problem?
>
> Thanks a lot for your answers.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Jul  4 14:55:15 2021
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (=?UTF-8?B?QnJpYW4gRw==?=)
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2021 15:55:15 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?utf-8?q?Telegram_Bot_Library?=
In-Reply-To: <CALb7m+kSsftyerdhZzDVmdOBBMg1YH2+dZ4Z9tAm+7pg2V9LgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALb7m+kSsftyerdhZzDVmdOBBMg1YH2+dZ4Z9tAm+7pg2V9LgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1625403315.65798613@f20.my.com>


I don't know about gambas, but there is a c++ library
https://github.com/reo7sp/tgbot-cpp
Can that be called directly from gambas?
--
Thanks
Brian G Saturday, 03 July 2021, 08:41AM -07:00 from John Dovey  dovey.john at gmail.com :

>Hi,
>I have to make a choice again between writing in vb or Gambas, and
>this time it's based on the availability of a library/class whatever
>to wrap the Telegram bot API.
>
>Does anyone know of anything like that? Something along those lines?
>This is the nuget package I'm looking
>at..https://github.com/TelegramBots/telegram.bot
>Thanks
>John
>
>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 16:22:51 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 16:22:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the editor after update to 3.16.1
In-Reply-To: <f0f41114-de23-a72f-667a-e87fd7773174@t-online.de>
References: <3d382d1e-7005-e317-eacb-d7d6a521fd21@t-online.de>
 <f0f41114-de23-a72f-667a-e87fd7773174@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <d2925406-9ac6-0c3f-4473-5cde3cdeafae@gmail.com>

Le 04/07/2021 ? 12:33, Hartmut Wagener a ?crit?:
> I solved the editor-thing, changed the font from "Sans Regular" to 
> "Serif Regular"...
> 

As far I as know, these names are aliases. I'd like to know the real 
fonts behind them to fix the problem.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 17:36:05 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 17:36:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the editor after update to 3.16.1
In-Reply-To: <1c5501c0-8534-359c-42e8-af59a3658dc2@t-online.de>
References: <3d382d1e-7005-e317-eacb-d7d6a521fd21@t-online.de>
 <f0f41114-de23-a72f-667a-e87fd7773174@t-online.de>
 <d2925406-9ac6-0c3f-4473-5cde3cdeafae@gmail.com>
 <1c5501c0-8534-359c-42e8-af59a3658dc2@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <df6da9d7-0542-17a7-edde-86a81698ce67@gmail.com>

Le 04/07/2021 ? 17:18, Hartmut Wagener a ?crit?:
> I had changed from "Sans regular" to "Serif Regular", and was able to 
> use the editor.
> 
> Now i have changed the Fonts back to "Sans regular", and still i am able 
> to use the editor... :)
> 
> So, it had to be something else with the fonts, i believe it was 
> something in an mate-update that did not do everything...
> 

OK, thanks for the answer. I asked that to see if eventually a specific 
font was in fault, but as you said, it is not the case.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de  Sun Jul  4 18:02:50 2021
From: hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de (Hartmut Wagener)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 18:02:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Changes after updating (either gambas or
 system-things)
Message-ID: <1b1e1225-e665-e469-c0d1-58e3552e0cef@t-online.de>

I have a programs running that is called by a keyboard-shortcut.

The program is used to show a list of graphical programs to choose from.

It is made of 15 buttons (Button1-Button15) and the same amount of 
panels containing a label.

Blender-Starter

After an update this tool did not react as before. In the past it was 
possible to navigate through the buttons by using either the TAB-button, 
but also the cursor-buttons were used to navigate. The cursor-buttons 
don't work anymore...

But the navigation was disabled cause the Button1 did not get the Focus 
after starting, i had to add the line "Button1.setfocus" to get it to 
work again.

When changing the focus with TAB the color of the buttan and the panel 
should change. That worked for the button, but not for the panels, so i 
had to put the line "Panelx.refresh" to every gotfocus and 
lostfocus-part with x numbering the panel number.

Any hints why this happens after an update? I am not sure when this 
update happens, cause arch Linux is a rolling release and the causes 
showed up when needing one of the programs.

Thanks a lot, regards

Hartmut

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 18:08:32 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 18:08:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Changes after updating (either gambas or
 system-things)
In-Reply-To: <1b1e1225-e665-e469-c0d1-58e3552e0cef@t-online.de>
References: <1b1e1225-e665-e469-c0d1-58e3552e0cef@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <d6eed903-77cb-36b6-faa4-2001e597ebb0@gmail.com>

Le 04/07/2021 ? 18:02, Hartmut Wagener a ?crit?:
> I have a programs running that is called by a keyboard-shortcut.
> 
> The program is used to show a list of graphical programs to choose from.
> 
> It is made of 15 buttons (Button1-Button15) and the same amount of 
> panels containing a label.
> 
> Blender-Starter
> 
> After an update this tool did not react as before. In the past it was 
> possible to navigate through the buttons by using either the TAB-button, 
> but also the cursor-buttons were used to navigate. The cursor-buttons 
> don't work anymore...
> 
> But the navigation was disabled cause the Button1 did not get the Focus 
> after starting, i had to add the line "Button1.setfocus" to get it to 
> work again.
> 
> When changing the focus with TAB the color of the buttan and the panel 
> should change. That worked for the button, but not for the panels, so i 
> had to put the line "Panelx.refresh" to every gotfocus and 
> lostfocus-part with x numbering the panel number.
> 
> Any hints why this happens after an update? I am not sure when this 
> update happens, cause arch Linux is a rolling release and the causes 
> showed up when needing one of the programs.
> 
> Thanks a lot, regards
> 
> Hartmut
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Focus management has been hijacked recently so that it behave the same 
both in QT and GTK+ Gambas components (look at the commit logs for the 
detail).

Please provide your project (or part of it) so that I can check and fix 
the behaviour against what you are describing.

Note that the arrow keys do not move the focus anymore because they are 
ambiguous. So you will have to do it yourself.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de  Sun Jul  4 22:29:12 2021
From: hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de (Hartmut Wagener)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 22:29:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Changes after updating (either gambas or
 system-things)
In-Reply-To: <d6eed903-77cb-36b6-faa4-2001e597ebb0@gmail.com>
References: <1b1e1225-e665-e469-c0d1-58e3552e0cef@t-online.de>
 <d6eed903-77cb-36b6-faa4-2001e597ebb0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <626d780e-242a-8f4f-8f3f-3d3a6bb07183@t-online.de>

Here is my project file, thanks for helping me and perhaps others...

I have added a setfocus in Form_Open and many Panelx.refresh in 
Buttonx.getfocus and Buttinx.lostfocus to get it running

I must have a look how to catch the cursor-presses, they are not inside 
the strings of keypress-event, or am i mistaken here?

Regards

Hartmut

Am 04.07.21 um 18:08 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 04/07/2021 ? 18:02, Hartmut Wagener a ?crit?:
>> I have a programs running that is called by a keyboard-shortcut.
>>
>> The program is used to show a list of graphical programs to choose from.
>>
>> It is made of 15 buttons (Button1-Button15) and the same amount of 
>> panels containing a label.
>>
>> Blender-Starter
>>
>> After an update this tool did not react as before. In the past it was 
>> possible to navigate through the buttons by using either the 
>> TAB-button, but also the cursor-buttons were used to navigate. The 
>> cursor-buttons don't work anymore...
>>
>> But the navigation was disabled cause the Button1 did not get the 
>> Focus after starting, i had to add the line "Button1.setfocus" to get 
>> it to work again.
>>
>> When changing the focus with TAB the color of the buttan and the 
>> panel should change. That worked for the button, but not for the 
>> panels, so i had to put the line "Panelx.refresh" to every gotfocus 
>> and lostfocus-part with x numbering the panel number.
>>
>> Any hints why this happens after an update? I am not sure when this 
>> update happens, cause arch Linux is a rolling release and the causes 
>> showed up when needing one of the programs.
>>
>> Thanks a lot, regards
>>
>> Hartmut
>>
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
> Focus management has been hijacked recently so that it behave the same 
> both in QT and GTK+ Gambas components (look at the commit logs for the 
> detail).
>
> Please provide your project (or part of it) so that I can check and 
> fix the behaviour against what you are describing.
>
> Note that the arrow keys do not move the focus anymore because they 
> are ambiguous. So you will have to do it yourself.
>
> Regards,
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 22:35:36 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 21:35:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Changes after updating (either gambas or
 system-things)
In-Reply-To: <1b1e1225-e665-e469-c0d1-58e3552e0cef@t-online.de>
References: <1b1e1225-e665-e469-c0d1-58e3552e0cef@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDnyKy+-13jvgvuyPWuUFAgKiWQeTO1eHvR5gFxL7+Rhw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 4 Jul 2021, 17:03 Hartmut Wagener, <hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de>
wrote:

> I have a programs running that is called by a keyboard-shortcut.
>
> The program is used to show a list of graphical programs to choose from.
>
> It is made of 15 buttons (Button1-Button15) and the same amount of panels
> containing a label.
>
> [image: Blender-Starter]
>
> After an update this tool did not react as before. In the past it was
> possible to navigate through the buttons by using either the TAB-button,
> but also the cursor-buttons were used to navigate. The cursor-buttons don't
> work anymore...
>
> But the navigation was disabled cause the Button1 did not get the Focus
> after starting, i had to add the line "Button1.setfocus" to get it to work
> again.
>
> When changing the focus with TAB the color of the buttan and the panel
> should change. That worked for the button, but not for the panels, so i had
> to put the line "Panelx.refresh" to every gotfocus and lostfocus-part with
> x numbering the panel number.
>
> Any hints why this happens after an update? I am not sure when this update
> happens, cause arch Linux is a rolling release and the causes showed up
> when needing one of the programs.
>
> Thanks a lot, regards
>
> Hartmut
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>


I find QT to be better with keyboard navigation than gtk3.

You may find an app functions better if you remove gb.gui and add gb.gui.qt
instead to force your app to be qt.

Just a suggestion, worth a try.

BruceS
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jul  5 08:46:24 2021
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 08:46:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
In-Reply-To: <afe3842a-f5f9-649a-609d-a9320174514b@gmail.com>
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Am 03.07.21 um 17:11 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 03/07/2021 ? 14:09, bb a ?crit?:
>>
>> Aha, now I see what you have done. Nice trick. I'll have to remember
>> that one for scraping rich text.
>>
>> b
>>
> 
> You can use String.FromHTML() from 'gb.util' too. But beware that just a 
> few HTML entities are handled. Hopefully, they are less and less 
> frequent now that HTML is mostly UTF-8.
> 
> Regards,
> 

Ok... interesting thing. I will try it with these notes, hopefully it 
can handle them. Then I could write a one-time conversion for the notes 
and would get rid of the old RichText ones.

RichText as such still is important for me in other applications, so in 
the long run, a new TextEdit control would be nice...

Regards
Rolf


From hans at gambas-buch.de  Mon Jul  5 11:37:55 2021
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 11:37:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reading and displaying a picture - stored directly in
 a DB
Message-ID: <28db5eac-3942-6737-f6b8-6b0dfcf2127f@gambas-buch.de>

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From cybercamera at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 12:15:56 2021
From: cybercamera at gmail.com (Cam Era)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:15:56 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.16.1, package creation and dependencies
Message-ID: <CAHrmVvOPApLFZ2qk7sni_Yri3jSu57BdHxcqC7tmFbaMC=RtZA@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings all.

Can someone point me in the direction of any documentation which covers the
areas of application package creation, specifically with respect to
specifying package dependencies which are older than 3.16.1 runtimes.
Searching has failed to locate this information.

(By way of background, I had a situation recently where I shipped Ubuntu
DEBs to a user, who had no luck installing them, because they had been
built with Gambas 3.16.1, and the packages requested from the package
management installer weren't available from the current Ubuntu repo.
Getting them to add the current Gambas PPA fixed the problem, but if
possible, I'd prefer to nominate the dependency versions directly.
Obviously, this would work out-of-the-box if I was running the version of
Gambas from the current Ubuntu repos, but I'd prefer to run a more recent
version if possible.)

Thanks in advance.

Cheers.
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jul  5 12:23:17 2021
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 12:23:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about TextEdit
In-Reply-To: <afe3842a-f5f9-649a-609d-a9320174514b@gmail.com>
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Am 03.07.21 um 17:11 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 03/07/2021 ? 14:09, bb a ?crit?:
>>
>> Aha, now I see what you have done. Nice trick. I'll have to remember
>> that one for scraping rich text.
>>
>> b
>>
> 
> You can use String.FromHTML() from 'gb.util' too. But beware that just a 
> few HTML entities are handled. Hopefully, they are less and less 
> frequent now that HTML is mostly UTF-8.
> 
> Regards,
> 

I tried it, and it works flawlessly. Then I saw that sometimes I 
included E-Mail-Texts, and these look quite nice if displayed as 
RichText. So this would be another pro for RichText.

There are two minor issues: String.FromHTML() leaves a trailing LF and 
double LFs within the text. So I included a String.Mid(..., 2) and 
Replace(..., "\n\n", "\n"). That leaves perfect plain UTF-8 texts in a 
TextArea.

Regards
Rolf

From antonio.j.teixeira at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 12:38:08 2021
From: antonio.j.teixeira at gmail.com (Antonio Teixeira)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 11:38:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Missing files in a new instalation gambas 3.16.1 in a
 Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
Message-ID: <CAAgrfyBjMR=e=3O3wDXm4_3VxNYS3zHwLoL=U1DZjSBjNR=1cA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Benoit,

I Tried to install as usual. Changing the ppa and doing apt-get install
gambas3.
After a while I compiled from git using someone else's instructions and now
everything is working fine.
Thank you anyway.

Atentamente / Regards

Ant?nio Teixeira
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 15:00:48 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:00:48 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reading and displaying a picture - stored
 directly in a DB
In-Reply-To: <28db5eac-3942-6737-f6b8-6b0dfcf2127f@gambas-buch.de>
References: <28db5eac-3942-6737-f6b8-6b0dfcf2127f@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <cc053b65-4d94-e5bd-f5ff-560fea4c73a4@gmail.com>

On 7/5/21 5:37 AM, Hans Lehmann wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am currently testing a DB project for our Gambas online book, where in a SQLite DB table, the name of the flower and its 
> picture are stored *directly* in the DB next to an ID. This does not cause any problems. The picture was inserted into the 
> PictureBox by hand!
> 
> 
> 
> In the GUI I want either
> 
>   * after a click on a row in the used component 'DataBrowser' or
>   * via the navigation( Start, Back, Next, End)
> 
> I want to display the corresponding picture in a PictureBox.
> 
> In which event routine do I have to insert the logic for reading the picture content?
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Hans

I don't have time to test it at the moment, but perhaps the DataBrowser.MouseDown event?


-- 
Lee

From hans at gambas-buch.de  Mon Jul  5 15:55:43 2021
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 15:55:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reading and displaying a picture - stored
 directly in a DB
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References: <28db5eac-3942-6737-f6b8-6b0dfcf2127f@gambas-buch.de>
 <cc053b65-4d94-e5bd-f5ff-560fea4c73a4@gmail.com>
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 16:03:17 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2021 23:33:17 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reading and displaying a picture - stored
 directly in a DB
In-Reply-To: <05f93cab-f87a-057e-87fb-ad577206ea84@gambas-buch.de>
References: <28db5eac-3942-6737-f6b8-6b0dfcf2127f@gambas-buch.de>
 <cc053b65-4d94-e5bd-f5ff-560fea4c73a4@gmail.com>
 <05f93cab-f87a-057e-87fb-ad577206ea84@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <27e7127dd8b0ad14619692197752846f5a4d162c.camel@gmail.com>

On Mon, 2021-07-05 at 15:55 +0200, Hans Lehmann wrote:
> Am 05.07.21 um 15:00 schrieb T Lee Davidson:
> > I don't have time to test it at the moment, but perhaps the
> > DataBrowser.MouseDown event?
>  
> Hello,
> 
> no, this only works if you click on the individual rows in the
> DataBrowser1.View. But the navigation is not affected by this.
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Hans
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
Try the Arrange event, it fires after the control has redrawn the
content, so theoretically unless you are already on first and click the
"first" button or etc. 

b


From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 16:08:21 2021
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 16:08:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reading and displaying a picture - stored
 directly in a DB
In-Reply-To: <27e7127dd8b0ad14619692197752846f5a4d162c.camel@gmail.com>
References: <28db5eac-3942-6737-f6b8-6b0dfcf2127f@gambas-buch.de>
 <cc053b65-4d94-e5bd-f5ff-560fea4c73a4@gmail.com>
 <05f93cab-f87a-057e-87fb-ad577206ea84@gambas-buch.de>
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Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYnJ7h5u4E7b3v1uyq1FiJXKV7s+Zo04kCKk6xB7==oGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno lun 5 lug 2021 alle ore 16:04 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On Mon, 2021-07-05 at 15:55 +0200, Hans Lehmann wrote:
> > Am 05.07.21 um 15:00 schrieb T Lee Davidson:
> > > I don't have time to test it at the moment, but perhaps the
> > > DataBrowser.MouseDown event?
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > no, this only works if you click on the individual rows in the
> > DataBrowser1.View. But the navigation is not affected by this.
> >
> > With kind regards
> >
> > Hans
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> Try the Arrange event, it fires after the control has redrawn the
> content, so theoretically unless you are already on first and click the
> "first" button or etc.
>
> b
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

Here I only followed the logic of selecting where we want on delete (next
for all rows, previous only for the last row) and moving with the arrows.
I used MouseUp because MouseDown doesn't seem to work here, Benoit?

Can you see the attached project (*) and tell where is wrong, if wrong?

(*) https://paste.c-net.org/CradleCredible

Thank you and greetings

Gianluigi
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 16:30:15 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2021 00:00:15 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reading and displaying a picture - stored
 directly in a DB
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References: <28db5eac-3942-6737-f6b8-6b0dfcf2127f@gambas-buch.de>
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On Mon, 2021-07-05 at 16:08 +0200, Gianluigi wrote:
> 
> 
> Il giorno lun 5 lug 2021 alle ore 16:04 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
> > 
> > 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> Here I only followed the logic of selecting where we want on delete
> (next for all rows, previous only for the last row) and moving with
> the arrows.
> I used MouseUp because MouseDown doesn't seem to work here, Benoit?
> 
> Can you see the attached project (*) and tell where is wrong, if
> wrong?
> 
> (*) https://paste.c-net.org/CradleCredible
> 
> Thank you and greetings
> 
> Gianluigi 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Here we go again! ;-)

comp ? gb.qt4 ? control ? .mousedown
Raised when a mouse button is pressed while the cursor is inside the
control.
	The event will only fire if the cursor is "inside" the control.

	The DataBrowser is a compound control with the proxy being
	the gridview. So MouseDown will only fire if the pointer is in
	the gridview.
	Also MouseDown will interupt the processing of the actual click

	until Xyzzy_MouseDown() is finished, so you may get the wrong
	item anyway!

You get information about the pressed button with the Mouse class.
	MouseDown is ONLY useful for getting which button was pressed, 
	NOT what is going on in the control!

	MouseUp will give similar problems. Last wont help. You need 
	to stand-by and twiddle your thumbs until the Gambas control 
	(and the GUI) has finished jigging around with the control, 
	the database and the flower garden.


comp ? gb.db.form ? databrowser
DataBrowser (gb.db.form)
...
The data is provided by the the first DataSource parent control.
	Now, there's a clue!


comp ? gb.db.form ? datasource ? .change
Event DataSource.Change (gb.db.form)

Event Change ( )

Raised when the DataSource current record has changed and all bound
child controls are updated.

;-) It's all there in the wiki in the "read every word" page.

cheers
bruce




From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 16:35:13 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 10:35:13 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reading and displaying a picture - stored
 directly in a DB
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYnJ7h5u4E7b3v1uyq1FiJXKV7s+Zo04kCKk6xB7==oGQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <28db5eac-3942-6737-f6b8-6b0dfcf2127f@gambas-buch.de>
 <cc053b65-4d94-e5bd-f5ff-560fea4c73a4@gmail.com>
 <05f93cab-f87a-057e-87fb-ad577206ea84@gambas-buch.de>
 <27e7127dd8b0ad14619692197752846f5a4d162c.camel@gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFYnJ7h5u4E7b3v1uyq1FiJXKV7s+Zo04kCKk6xB7==oGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0781441f-f534-fc48-0048-002e900454a7@gmail.com>

On 7/5/21 10:08 AM, Gianluigi wrote:
> 
> 
> Il giorno lun 5 lug 2021 alle ore 16:04 bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com <mailto:adamnt42 at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
>     On Mon, 2021-07-05 at 15:55 +0200, Hans Lehmann wrote:
>      > Am 05.07.21 um 15:00 schrieb T Lee Davidson:
>      > > I don't have time to test it at the moment, but perhaps the
>      > > DataBrowser.MouseDown event?
>      >
>      > Hello,
>      >
>      > no, this only works if you click on the individual rows in the
>      > DataBrowser1.View. But the navigation is not affected by this.
>      >
>      > With kind regards
>      >
>      > Hans
>      > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>     Try the Arrange event, it fires after the control has redrawn the
>     content, so theoretically unless you are already on first and click the
>     "first" button or etc.
> 
>     b
> 
> 
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
> 
> 
> Here I only followed the logic of selecting where we want on delete (next for all rows, previous only for the last row) and 
> moving with the arrows.
> I used MouseUp because MouseDown doesn't seem to work here, Benoit?
> 
> Can you see the attached project (*) and tell where is wrong, if wrong?
> 
> (*) https://paste.c-net.org/CradleCredible <https://paste.c-net.org/CradleCredible>
> 
> Thank you and greetings
> 
> Gianluigi

I couldn't figure out where you found a DataBrowser BeforeDelete event. After finding that out, I had an epiphany ;-) Good 
thinking, Gianluigi.

Hans, try the DataSource.Change event.


-- 
Lee

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 16:40:54 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 10:40:54 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reading and displaying a picture - stored
 directly in a DB
In-Reply-To: <2aea0fd28a3391dfd6977884a680cb4161af0bb6.camel@gmail.com>
References: <28db5eac-3942-6737-f6b8-6b0dfcf2127f@gambas-buch.de>
 <cc053b65-4d94-e5bd-f5ff-560fea4c73a4@gmail.com>
 <05f93cab-f87a-057e-87fb-ad577206ea84@gambas-buch.de>
 <27e7127dd8b0ad14619692197752846f5a4d162c.camel@gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFYnJ7h5u4E7b3v1uyq1FiJXKV7s+Zo04kCKk6xB7==oGQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <2aea0fd28a3391dfd6977884a680cb4161af0bb6.camel@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6d2ce936-b037-4b5e-98d2-c52b8954ffdb@gmail.com>

On 7/5/21 10:30 AM, bb wrote:
> comp ? gb.db.form ? datasource ? .change
> Event DataSource.Change (gb.db.form)
> 
> Event Change ( )
> 
> Raised when the DataSource current record has changed and all bound
> child controls are updated.

Ah, geez, Bruce.

While I was composing and sending my epiphany, you slipped this in. :-D


-- 
Lee

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 17:26:59 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 11:26:59 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Telegram Bot Library
In-Reply-To: <1625403315.65798613@f20.my.com>
References: <CALb7m+kSsftyerdhZzDVmdOBBMg1YH2+dZ4Z9tAm+7pg2V9LgA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1625403315.65798613@f20.my.com>
Message-ID: <2baf2d56-9523-a38e-3e22-4f3043f6fe38@gmail.com>

On 7/4/21 8:55 AM, Brian G wrote:
> I don't know about gambas, but there is a c++ library
> 
> https://github.com/reo7sp/tgbot-cpp
> 
> Can that be called directly from gambas?
> 
> --
> Thanks
> Brian G
> 

They call it a library, but it's more of a class definition designed for instantiation of an object and subsequent execution of 
methods of that object; not a actual library with externally callable functions. That is also true of the other C/C++ 
(so-called) libraries I looked at.

John, if you're averse to coding in VB and would prefer Gambas, you could just code against the HTTP-based Telegram Bot API 
directly. There are only 54 methods, and the call format is quite simple:
https://api.telegram.org/bot<token>/METHOD_NAME
(https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#making-requests)

It should be relatively easy to convert the response to a collection using JSON.Decode from the gb.util.web component.


-- 
Lee

From dovey.john at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 18:04:36 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 11:04:36 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Telegram Bot Library
In-Reply-To: <2baf2d56-9523-a38e-3e22-4f3043f6fe38@gmail.com>
References: <CALb7m+kSsftyerdhZzDVmdOBBMg1YH2+dZ4Z9tAm+7pg2V9LgA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1625403315.65798613@f20.my.com>
 <2baf2d56-9523-a38e-3e22-4f3043f6fe38@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALb7m+=+MzCc+dFW1UsK-JYChbe3qFGaZCRktdxcyBHyaqzQCg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you.. That's a damn fine idea.. I'm not too sure about the
wrapping stuff, so I'd have to work on that.

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 at 10:28, T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/4/21 8:55 AM, Brian G wrote:
> > I don't know about gambas, but there is a c++ library
> >
> > https://github.com/reo7sp/tgbot-cpp
> >
> > Can that be called directly from gambas?
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > Brian G
> >
>
> They call it a library, but it's more of a class definition designed for instantiation of an object and subsequent execution of
> methods of that object; not a actual library with externally callable functions. That is also true of the other C/C++
> (so-called) libraries I looked at.
>
> John, if you're averse to coding in VB and would prefer Gambas, you could just code against the HTTP-based Telegram Bot API
> directly. There are only 54 methods, and the call format is quite simple:
> https://api.telegram.org/bot<token>/METHOD_NAME
> (https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#making-requests)
>
> It should be relatively easy to convert the response to a collection using JSON.Decode from the gb.util.web component.
>
>
> --
> Lee
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From herberthguzman at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 03:42:19 2021
From: herberthguzman at gmail.com (Herberth Guzman)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 19:42:19 -0600
Subject: [Gambas-user] Data.Image WebTable (gb-web-gui)
Message-ID: <CAJPJa8hPLdvzEvN0y42ij-B-HDJV7Xe0smzhEFKca7osJUySPA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
I have a web project (gb-web-gui)

I need to display an image in a webtable

the code:
Data.Image = ("img/alert.png")

but it doesn't work, am I doing something wrong ..?

this code if it works
Data.Html = "<img src=\"" & ("img/alert.png") & "\">"

The problem with this code is that it works fine at runtime.
But when I compile and upload it to my server it doesn't show the image.

Can anybody help me.

Thanks
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 03:55:36 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 03:55:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
Message-ID: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>

Hi,

I have released Gambas 3.16.2 with most of the bug fixed since the 
previous 3.16.1.

You can download it at:

https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/archive/3.16.2/gambas-3.16.2.tar.bz2

to check it before I update the Ubuntu PPA packages and make it official.

The changelog is at:

https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/release/3.16.2.

Report any problem as usual.

Enjoy!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From dovey.john at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 06:04:36 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 23:04:36 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Data.Image WebTable (gb-web-gui)
In-Reply-To: <CAJPJa8hPLdvzEvN0y42ij-B-HDJV7Xe0smzhEFKca7osJUySPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJPJa8hPLdvzEvN0y42ij-B-HDJV7Xe0smzhEFKca7osJUySPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALb7m+nV4Z95GiRuS1AZ9sSzvF+5j2FDA2uBohibhZJKr=rFWg@mail.gmail.com>

This might have nothing to do with your problem, but I would construct
that string something like this:
Data.Html = "<img src=" & chr(34) & "img/alert.png" & chr(34) & ">"
because I've had all sorts of problems with escaped strings through
the years.. ;-)

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 at 20:43, Herberth Guzman <herberthguzman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
> I have a web project (gb-web-gui)
>
> I need to display an image in a webtable
>
> the code:
> Data.Image = ("img/alert.png")
>
> but it doesn't work, am I doing something wrong ..?
>
> this code if it works
> Data.Html = "<img src=\"" & ("img/alert.png") & "\">"
>
> The problem with this code is that it works fine at runtime.
> But when I compile and upload it to my server it doesn't show the image.
>
> Can anybody help me.
>
> Thanks
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From kicking177 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 09:53:14 2021
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 08:53:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Data.Image WebTable (gb-web-gui)
Message-ID: <fb2b3c22-2d05-700e-a9b1-b89b3a5fe1ce@gmail.com>

> The problem with this code is that it works fine at runtime.
> But when I compile and upload it to my server it doesn't show the image.
random ideas:
If it runs locally in IDE can you not compile and run the built .gambas 
locally to test?
Does the running path vary when running the .gambas (locally or on 
server) from when under IDE?
Put some code in to display the running path?
For testing can you change it from a relative path to a fixed path to test?
K.

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 10:03:25 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:03:25 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Data.Image WebTable (gb-web-gui)
In-Reply-To: <CAJPJa8hPLdvzEvN0y42ij-B-HDJV7Xe0smzhEFKca7osJUySPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJPJa8hPLdvzEvN0y42ij-B-HDJV7Xe0smzhEFKca7osJUySPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAKJHodsP3FWbqnSv2R_mws2tKHVZJYrFOMdZ43OZiKYw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 02:43, Herberth Guzman <herberthguzman at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi
> I have a web project (gb-web-gui)
>
> I need to display an image in a webtable
>
> the code:
> Data.Image = ("img/alert.png")
>
> but it doesn't work, am I doing something wrong ..?
>
> this code if it works
> Data.Html = "<img src=\"" & ("img/alert.png") & "\">"
>
> The problem with this code is that it works fine at runtime.
> But when I compile and upload it to my server it doesn't show the image.
>
> Can anybody help me.
>


try using absolute paths including the domain.etc
it's probably to do with your server settings and the visibility/url of the
img folder relative to the source
using the full url of the image will probably work

BruceS
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From isafiur at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 13:09:03 2021
From: isafiur at gmail.com (Safiur Rahman)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 16:54:03 +0545
Subject: [Gambas-user] Data.Image WebTable (gb-web-gui)
Message-ID: <CADKn0TKcEPK-sKC-KSdmidnyeQZ34u+LJhNOjHaJLKyGaAgSww@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

In Ubuntu 20.04 you can create a folder in /var/www/html to host your
images, documents.
sudo mkdir /var/www/html/docs

Now you have to send your image file to this document
sudo cp <your file> /var/www/html/image.png

Now you can use this image file in web Table
Data.Html = "<img style='height: 100%; width: 100%;'
src=http://<ip>/docs/image.png>"
-- 
Regards
Safiur Rahman

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 13:18:54 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 13:18:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Data.Image WebTable (gb-web-gui)
In-Reply-To: <CAJPJa8hPLdvzEvN0y42ij-B-HDJV7Xe0smzhEFKca7osJUySPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJPJa8hPLdvzEvN0y42ij-B-HDJV7Xe0smzhEFKca7osJUySPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c7a7c45-2306-0d67-9b39-891216cdf87e@gmail.com>

Le 06/07/2021 ? 03:42, Herberth Guzman a ?crit?:
> Hi
> I have a web project (gb-web-gui)
> 
> I need to display an image in a webtable
> 
> the code:
> Data.Image = ("img/alert.png")
> 
> but it doesn't work, am I doing something wrong ..?
> 
> this code if it works
> Data.Html = "<img src=\"" & ("img/alert.png") & "\">"
> 
> The problem with this code is that it works fine at runtime.
> But when I compile and upload it to my server it doesn't show the image.
> 
> Can anybody help me.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

The image file must be in the "Public" project folder so that it can be 
served through HTTP.

So, if you put Data.Image = "img/alert.png" (no parenthesis, this is not 
a translatable string), then the "alert.png" file must be in a "img" 
folder located in the "Public" folder of the project.

The URL associated with the file will be "http(s)://<application 
root>/img/alert.png", where "<application root>" is the name of your 
application executable as CGI script.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Jul  6 14:15:19 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 14:15:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <66e79bea-30c0-faec-3619-0e9bef6d0262@deganius.de>

Hello Beno?t,

Am 06.07.21 um 03:55 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> The changelog is at:
> 
> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/release/3.16.2.
> 
> Report any problem as usual.
> 
> Enjoy

Thank you for the new version!

As I see there are no new version tags in the Git repo any more.

How can I check out a newer version? AFAICS the last version tag in the
repo is '3.15.0'.

It lacks the tags '3.15.1', '3.15.2', '3.16.0', '3.16.1' and of course
'3.16.2'.

Was this intentionally?

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 14:45:26 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 14:45:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <66e79bea-30c0-faec-3619-0e9bef6d0262@deganius.de>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
 <66e79bea-30c0-faec-3619-0e9bef6d0262@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <1348d5df-9c27-f91c-bfa6-18b2a2cd7c85@gmail.com>

Le 06/07/2021 ? 14:15, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
> Hello Beno?t,
> 
> Am 06.07.21 um 03:55 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> 
>> The changelog is at:
>>
>> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/release/3.16.2.
>>
>> Report any problem as usual.
>>
>> Enjoy
> 
> Thank you for the new version!
> 
> As I see there are no new version tags in the Git repo any more.
> 
> How can I check out a newer version? AFAICS the last version tag in the
> repo is '3.15.0'.
> 
> It lacks the tags '3.15.1', '3.15.2', '3.16.0', '3.16.1' and of course
> '3.16.2'.
> 
> Was this intentionally?
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
> Christof Thalhofer
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

The tags exist, look on gitlab.org.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Jul  6 15:36:08 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 15:36:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <1348d5df-9c27-f91c-bfa6-18b2a2cd7c85@gmail.com>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
 <66e79bea-30c0-faec-3619-0e9bef6d0262@deganius.de>
 <1348d5df-9c27-f91c-bfa6-18b2a2cd7c85@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1f044aa6-5ebe-ccda-cd73-cddb56737b9b@deganius.de>

Am 06.07.21 um 14:45 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> The tags exist, look on gitlab.org.

But not in the repository:

christof at chrisvirt ~/programming/gambas/gambas ?master? ? git tag > tag.txt

Look at the file.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Jul  6 15:42:35 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 15:42:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <1f044aa6-5ebe-ccda-cd73-cddb56737b9b@deganius.de>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
 <66e79bea-30c0-faec-3619-0e9bef6d0262@deganius.de>
 <1348d5df-9c27-f91c-bfa6-18b2a2cd7c85@gmail.com>
 <1f044aa6-5ebe-ccda-cd73-cddb56737b9b@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <63625cbe-4a8b-efc9-fb60-117eb2c958c3@deganius.de>

Am 06.07.21 um 15:36 schrieb Christof Thalhofer:
> Am 06.07.21 um 14:45 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> 
>> The tags exist, look on gitlab.org.
> 
> But not in the repository:
> 
> christof at chrisvirt ~/programming/gambas/gambas ?master? ? git tag > tag.txt
> 
> Look at the file.

Sorry, my fault, I always forget to do
'git fetch --all --tags'

sigh ...

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 16:07:50 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 16:07:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <63625cbe-4a8b-efc9-fb60-117eb2c958c3@deganius.de>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
 <66e79bea-30c0-faec-3619-0e9bef6d0262@deganius.de>
 <1348d5df-9c27-f91c-bfa6-18b2a2cd7c85@gmail.com>
 <1f044aa6-5ebe-ccda-cd73-cddb56737b9b@deganius.de>
 <63625cbe-4a8b-efc9-fb60-117eb2c958c3@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <35d808a4-e736-e755-0657-b7c57b85ade5@gmail.com>

Le 06/07/2021 ? 15:42, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
> Am 06.07.21 um 15:36 schrieb Christof Thalhofer:
>> Am 06.07.21 um 14:45 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>>
>>> The tags exist, look on gitlab.org.
>>
>> But not in the repository:
>>
>> christof at chrisvirt ~/programming/gambas/gambas ?master? ? git tag > tag.txt
>>
>> Look at the file.
> 
> Sorry, my fault, I always forget to do
> 'git fetch --all --tags'
> 
> sigh ...
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
> Christof Thalhofer
> 
> 

If I don't make a tag for a version, gitlab.com does not give me the 
download link.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From herberthguzman at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 21:25:23 2021
From: herberthguzman at gmail.com (Herberth Guzman)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 13:25:23 -0600
Subject: [Gambas-user] Data.Image WebTable (gb-web-gui)
In-Reply-To: <4c7a7c45-2306-0d67-9b39-891216cdf87e@gmail.com>
References: <CAJPJa8hPLdvzEvN0y42ij-B-HDJV7Xe0smzhEFKca7osJUySPA@mail.gmail.com>
 <4c7a7c45-2306-0d67-9b39-891216cdf87e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJPJa8j8F9wgV--OruBXoJ46c8M2Cq0RrcTTs990puSaPoadzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
Thank you very much to all.

The following code worked for me.

Data.Html = ("<img src =" & Chr(34) & "
http://ip/cgi-bin/myappweb.gambas/alert.png" & Chr(34) & ">")


El mar, 6 jul 2021 a las 5:19, Beno?t Minisini (<g4mba5 at gmail.com>)
escribi?:

> Le 06/07/2021 ? 03:42, Herberth Guzman a ?crit :
> > Hi
> > I have a web project (gb-web-gui)
> >
> > I need to display an image in a webtable
> >
> > the code:
> > Data.Image = ("img/alert.png")
> >
> > but it doesn't work, am I doing something wrong ..?
> >
> > this code if it works
> > Data.Html = "<img src=\"" & ("img/alert.png") & "\">"
> >
> > The problem with this code is that it works fine at runtime.
> > But when I compile and upload it to my server it doesn't show the image.
> >
> > Can anybody help me.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> The image file must be in the "Public" project folder so that it can be
> served through HTTP.
>
> So, if you put Data.Image = "img/alert.png" (no parenthesis, this is not
> a translatable string), then the "alert.png" file must be in a "img"
> folder located in the "Public" folder of the project.
>
> The URL associated with the file will be "http(s)://<application
> root>/img/alert.png", where "<application root>" is the name of your
> application executable as CGI script.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 22:59:42 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 22:59:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <96fda1a8-a393-f5c9-79f8-9f9c6b25d6ea@gmail.com>

Le 06/07/2021 ? 03:55, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
> Hi,
> 
> I have released Gambas 3.16.2 with most of the bug fixed since the 
> previous 3.16.1.
> 
> You can download it at:
> 
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/archive/3.16.2/gambas-3.16.2.tar.bz2
> 
> to check it before I update the Ubuntu PPA packages and make it official.
> 
> The changelog is at:
> 
> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/release/3.16.2.
> 
> Report any problem as usual.
> 
> Enjoy!
> 

The 3.16.2 tag has been redone because of a last minute fix.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Jul  7 11:33:13 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 11:33:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <96fda1a8-a393-f5c9-79f8-9f9c6b25d6ea@gmail.com>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
 <96fda1a8-a393-f5c9-79f8-9f9c6b25d6ea@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <895ae5ca-926e-192b-6775-f2c8566a6b51@deganius.de>

Am 06.07.21 um 22:59 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> The 3.16.2 tag has been redone because of a last minute fix.

I am unsure, but I have problems with the IDE which doesn't execute any
key combination starting with 'Ctrl' here. I am investigating.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 11:52:09 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 11:52:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <895ae5ca-926e-192b-6775-f2c8566a6b51@deganius.de>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
 <96fda1a8-a393-f5c9-79f8-9f9c6b25d6ea@gmail.com>
 <895ae5ca-926e-192b-6775-f2c8566a6b51@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <bf9e32d4-a704-9c8a-03da-a058876b966c@gmail.com>

Le 07/07/2021 ? 11:33, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
> Am 06.07.21 um 22:59 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> 
>> The 3.16.2 tag has been redone because of a last minute fix.
> 
> I am unsure, but I have problems with the IDE which doesn't execute any
> key combination starting with 'Ctrl' here. I am investigating.
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
> Christof Thalhofer
> 

Check first that it works with the QT5 IDE, and that it is a GTK+ 
problem. I have not this problem here with GTK+ IDE.

Then check the input method in use with GTK+. This is the only thing I 
imagine that could modify the keyboard events behaviour in GTK+.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 12:24:14 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 11:24:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAL6v1VRV5uUii4q33UbDk-cdk__bvbCPgxefFKoukt0A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
I'm looking for a sure fire recommended way to make an application a
"Single Instance" application that takes filepath args.

The Reason:
If i create a desktop launcher for my app and drop multiple files on it
linux does not launch the application once and send all the dropped file
paths to it.  it launches the application multiple times all with one file
arg.
So i needed a way to only let one app launch and the other instances just
send the file args to the first instance.

Currently i have used a pipe and Shell "pgrep -f AppName" to list all app
id's the lowest app id is selected as the working app and any other
instances of the app launched are quickly closed after sending their file
args to the pipe.
Then the first app picks up the file args from the pipe file.
(example app here... https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1149)

I'm currently looking into DBus as a better alternative for detecting an
already loaded app and sending it args but i'm making slow progress with
DBus atm (any simple app DBus communication examples would be handy)

Just wondered if anyone here has done this sort of thing already and may
have any advice / examples.

Cheers in advance :)
BruceS
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From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Wed Jul  7 14:00:52 2021
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 08:00:52 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAL6v1VRV5uUii4q33UbDk-cdk__bvbCPgxefFKoukt0A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAL6v1VRV5uUii4q33UbDk-cdk__bvbCPgxefFKoukt0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <395e1f61-d443-299b-4695-d8f254585957@ajm-software.com>


On 2021-07-07 5:24 a.m., Bruce Steers wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm looking for a sure fire recommended way to make an application a 
> "Single Instance" application that takes filepath args.
>
> The Reason:
> If i create a desktop launcher for my app and drop multiple files on 
> it linux does not launch the application once and send all the dropped 
> file paths to it.? it launches the application multiple times all with 
> one file arg.
> So i needed a way to only let one app launch and the other instances 
> just send the file args to the first instance.
>
> Currently i have used a pipe and Shell "pgrep -f AppName" to list all 
> app id's the lowest app id is selected as the working app and any 
> other instances of the app launched are quickly closed after sending 
> their file args to the pipe.
> Then the first app picks up the file args from the pipe file.
> (example app here... 
> https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1149 
> <https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1149>)
>
> I'm currently looking into DBus as a better alternative for detecting 
> an already loaded app and sending it args but i'm making slow progress 
> with DBus atm (any simple app DBus communication examples would be handy)
>
> Just wondered if anyone here has done this sort of thing already and 
> may have any advice / examples.
>
> Cheers in advance :)
> BruceS
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----


I have the following code in a startup module.? It could go in a startup 
form as well.

Private hDbusObj As DbusObj

Const TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME As String = "org.ajmconsulting.TextEditor"
Const TEXTEDITOR_PATH As String = "/org/ajmconsulting/TextEditor"
Const TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE As String = "org.ajmconsulting.TextEditor"

Public Sub Main()??? 'Form_Open if startup form
 ??? 'check if gbTE is already open
 ??? If DBus.Session.Applications.Exist(TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME) Then
 ????? 'yes it is, so pass-off current file list
 ????? If Files.Count > 0 Then
 ??????? For Each $file In Files
 ????????? DBus[TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME][TEXTEDITOR_PATH, 
TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Open($file.Name, $file.ReadOnly, 
$file.LineNumber, $file.ColumnNumber)
 ??????? Next
 ????? Endif
 ????? Try DBus[TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME][TEXTEDITOR_PATH, 
TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Show()
 ????? Return??? 'exit, replace with Me.Close if in startup form
 ??? Endif
 ??? 'set up to receive pass-off commands
 ??? DBus.Name = TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME
 ??? hDbusObj = New DbusObj
 ??? DBus.Session.Register(hDbusObj, TEXTEDITOR_PATH, 
TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE])
 ? Endif

 ? fEditor.ShowModal()? 'wait until editing is all done, skip if in 
startup form

 ? 'clean-up and exit, place remaining code in Form_Close if in startup form
 ? If Not IsNull(hDbusObj) And If DBus.IsRegistered(hDbusObj) Then
 ??? DBus.Unregister(hDbusObj)
 ? Endif

End

The remaining code goes into a class file named dbusobj.

' Gambas class file

Inherits DBusObject

Public Sub org_ajmconsulting_TextEditor_Show()

 ? fEditor.Show()

End

Public Sub org_ajmconsulting_TextEditor_Open(sFilePath As String, 
bReadOnly As Boolean, nLine As Integer, nColumn As Integer)

 ? fEditor.AddEditor(sFilePath, bReadOnly, nLine, nColumn)
 ? fEditor.Raise()

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 15:18:55 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 14:18:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
In-Reply-To: <395e1f61-d443-299b-4695-d8f254585957@ajm-software.com>
References: <CABuQYCAL6v1VRV5uUii4q33UbDk-cdk__bvbCPgxefFKoukt0A@mail.gmail.com>
 <395e1f61-d443-299b-4695-d8f254585957@ajm-software.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCD8VLxxeaATyREscVQnuAfpbCWDkFinYUS4a86K0LHi9A@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 13:11, Tony Morehen <tmorehen at ajm-software.com> wrote:

>
> On 2021-07-07 5:24 a.m., Bruce Steers wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm looking for a sure fire recommended way to make an application a
> "Single Instance" application that takes filepath args.
>
> The Reason:
> If i create a desktop launcher for my app and drop multiple files on it
> linux does not launch the application once and send all the dropped file
> paths to it.  it launches the application multiple times all with one file
> arg.
> So i needed a way to only let one app launch and the other instances just
> send the file args to the first instance.
>
> Currently i have used a pipe and Shell "pgrep -f AppName" to list all app
> id's the lowest app id is selected as the working app and any other
> instances of the app launched are quickly closed after sending their file
> args to the pipe.
> Then the first app picks up the file args from the pipe file.
> (example app here... https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1149)
>
> I'm currently looking into DBus as a better alternative for detecting an
> already loaded app and sending it args but i'm making slow progress with
> DBus atm (any simple app DBus communication examples would be handy)
>
> Just wondered if anyone here has done this sort of thing already and may
> have any advice / examples.
>
> Cheers in advance :)
> BruceS
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> I have the following code in a startup module.  It could go in a startup
> form as well.
>
> Private hDbusObj As DbusObj
>
> Const TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME As String = "org.ajmconsulting.TextEditor"
> Const TEXTEDITOR_PATH As String = "/org/ajmconsulting/TextEditor"
> Const TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE As String = "org.ajmconsulting.TextEditor"
>
> Public Sub Main()    'Form_Open if startup form
>     'check if gbTE is already open
>     If DBus.Session.Applications.Exist(TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME) Then
>       'yes it is, so pass-off current file list
>       If Files.Count > 0 Then
>         For Each $file In Files
>           DBus[TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME][TEXTEDITOR_PATH,
> TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Open($file.Name, $file.ReadOnly,
> $file.LineNumber, $file.ColumnNumber)
>         Next
>       Endif
>       Try DBus[TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME][TEXTEDITOR_PATH,
> TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Show()
>       Return    'exit, replace with Me.Close if in startup form
>     Endif
>     'set up to receive pass-off commands
>     DBus.Name = TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME
>     hDbusObj = New DbusObj
>     DBus.Session.Register(hDbusObj, TEXTEDITOR_PATH,
> TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE])
>   Endif
>
>   fEditor.ShowModal()  'wait until editing is all done, skip if in startup
> form
>
>   'clean-up and exit, place remaining code in Form_Close if in startup form
>   If Not IsNull(hDbusObj) And If DBus.IsRegistered(hDbusObj) Then
>     DBus.Unregister(hDbusObj)
>   Endif
>
> End
>
> The remaining code goes into a class file named dbusobj.
>
> ' Gambas class file
>
> Inherits DBusObject
>
> Public Sub org_ajmconsulting_TextEditor_Show()
>
>   fEditor.Show()
>
> End
>
> Public Sub org_ajmconsulting_TextEditor_Open(sFilePath As String,
> bReadOnly As Boolean, nLine As Integer, nColumn As Integer)
>
>   fEditor.AddEditor(sFilePath, bReadOnly, nLine, nColumn)
>   fEditor.Raise()
>
> End
>

Excellent thank you Tony :)
I was so close lol, things are working now though thanks to your help.

Much appreciated :)
BruceS
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Jul  7 15:38:54 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 15:38:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <bf9e32d4-a704-9c8a-03da-a058876b966c@gmail.com>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
 <96fda1a8-a393-f5c9-79f8-9f9c6b25d6ea@gmail.com>
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 <bf9e32d4-a704-9c8a-03da-a058876b966c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dcb327fe-5e3e-6558-b8c0-d84a69d31fe2@deganius.de>

Am 07.07.21 um 11:52 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 07/07/2021 ? 11:33, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
>> Am 06.07.21 um 22:59 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>>
>>> The 3.16.2 tag has been redone because of a last minute fix.
>>
>> I am unsure, but I have problems with the IDE which doesn't execute any
>> key combination starting with 'Ctrl' here. I am investigating.
> 
> Check first that it works with the QT5 IDE, and that it is a GTK+ 
> problem. I have not this problem here with GTK+ IDE.

With GB_GUI='gb.gtk3' it happens.
With GB_GUI='gb.qt5' it does not happen.

> Then check the input method in use with GTK+. This is the only thing I 
> imagine that could modify the keyboard events behaviour in GTK+.

It's not only 'Ctrl' but every shortcut fails. After I execute the
project one time (hit 'Run' with the mouse), the shortcuts work afterwards.

I have no idea what you mean with "check the input method".

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 17:37:04 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 17:37:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <dcb327fe-5e3e-6558-b8c0-d84a69d31fe2@deganius.de>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
 <96fda1a8-a393-f5c9-79f8-9f9c6b25d6ea@gmail.com>
 <895ae5ca-926e-192b-6775-f2c8566a6b51@deganius.de>
 <bf9e32d4-a704-9c8a-03da-a058876b966c@gmail.com>
 <dcb327fe-5e3e-6558-b8c0-d84a69d31fe2@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <de1f767c-01e2-7bf1-82dd-8cd30d18c456@gmail.com>

Le 07/07/2021 ? 15:38, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
> Am 07.07.21 um 11:52 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> Le 07/07/2021 ? 11:33, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
>>> Am 06.07.21 um 22:59 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>>>
>>>> The 3.16.2 tag has been redone because of a last minute fix.
>>>
>>> I am unsure, but I have problems with the IDE which doesn't execute any
>>> key combination starting with 'Ctrl' here. I am investigating.
>>
>> Check first that it works with the QT5 IDE, and that it is a GTK+
>> problem. I have not this problem here with GTK+ IDE.
> 
> With GB_GUI='gb.gtk3' it happens.
> With GB_GUI='gb.qt5' it does not happen.
> 
>> Then check the input method in use with GTK+. This is the only thing I
>> imagine that could modify the keyboard events behaviour in GTK+.
> 
> It's not only 'Ctrl' but every shortcut fails. After I execute the
> project one time (hit 'Run' with the mouse), the shortcuts work afterwards.
> 
> I have no idea what you mean with "check the input method".
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
> Christof Thalhofer
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

I have installed Gambas 3.16.2 on a Mate system on VirtualBox, and I 
confirm your problem.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 17:38:33 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 17:38:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <de1f767c-01e2-7bf1-82dd-8cd30d18c456@gmail.com>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
 <96fda1a8-a393-f5c9-79f8-9f9c6b25d6ea@gmail.com>
 <895ae5ca-926e-192b-6775-f2c8566a6b51@deganius.de>
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Le 07/07/2021 ? 17:37, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 07/07/2021 ? 15:38, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
>>
>> It's not only 'Ctrl' but every shortcut fails. After I execute the
>> project one time (hit 'Run' with the mouse), the shortcuts work 
>> afterwards.
>>
>> I have no idea what you mean with "check the input method".
>>
>> Alles Gute
>>
>> Christof Thalhofer
>>
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
> 
> I have installed Gambas 3.16.2 on a Mate system on VirtualBox, and I 
> confirm your problem.
> 

Apparently it's related to the initial focus. If you run the IDE, then 
click on a text field to give it the focus, shortcuts work.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Jul  7 17:55:08 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 17:55:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <e622f3b8-b399-b97c-f924-b20215f99fef@gmail.com>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
 <96fda1a8-a393-f5c9-79f8-9f9c6b25d6ea@gmail.com>
 <895ae5ca-926e-192b-6775-f2c8566a6b51@deganius.de>
 <bf9e32d4-a704-9c8a-03da-a058876b966c@gmail.com>
 <dcb327fe-5e3e-6558-b8c0-d84a69d31fe2@deganius.de>
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Message-ID: <49038726-ec26-a8b9-b032-f96efb448fb5@deganius.de>

Am 07.07.21 um 17:38 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

>> I have installed Gambas 3.16.2 on a Mate system on VirtualBox, and I 
>> confirm your problem.

Here it's Ubuntu 20.04 in a VM.

> Apparently it's related to the initial focus. If you run the IDE, then 
> click on a text field to give it the focus, shortcuts work.

Yes, here also.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 19:49:41 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:49:41 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
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Le 07/07/2021 ? 17:55, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
> Am 07.07.21 um 17:38 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> 
>>> I have installed Gambas 3.16.2 on a Mate system on VirtualBox, and I
>>> confirm your problem.
> 
> Here it's Ubuntu 20.04 in a VM.
> 
>> Apparently it's related to the initial focus. If you run the IDE, then
>> click on a text field to give it the focus, shortcuts work.
> 
> Yes, here also.
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
> Christof Thalhofer
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

OK, the bug has been fixed (it was present in the development version), 
and the 3.16.2 tag has been updated.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 20:05:34 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 20:05:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCD8VLxxeaATyREscVQnuAfpbCWDkFinYUS4a86K0LHi9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAL6v1VRV5uUii4q33UbDk-cdk__bvbCPgxefFKoukt0A@mail.gmail.com>
 <395e1f61-d443-299b-4695-d8f254585957@ajm-software.com>
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Le 07/07/2021 ? 15:18, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> Excellent thank you Tony :)
> I was so close lol, things are working now though thanks to your help.
> 
> Much appreciated :)
> BruceS
> 

Actually doing that:

If DBus.Session.Applications.Exist(TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME) Then

to know if you are already on the bus is wrong, because it's not atomic.

You must instead set the DBus.Unique property to TRUE before 
registering, so that a unique name is used.

That way, if you register on the DBus bus again, you will get an error, 
and it will be atomic.

So you should do instead:

DBus.Unique = TRUE

hDbusObj = New DbusObj

' Registering the first object automatically registers the application.

Try DBus.Session.Register(hDbusObj, TEXTEDITOR_PATH, 
TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE])

If Error Then

   ' We suppose we are already registered.

   If Files.Count > 0 Then
     For Each $file In Files
       DBus[DBus.Name][TEXTEDITOR_PATH, 
TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Open($file.Name, $file.ReadOnly, 
$file.LineNumber, $file.ColumnNumber)
     Next
   Endif

   Try DBus[DBus.Name][TEXTEDITOR_PATH, TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Show()

Endif

Tell me if it actually works!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 20:15:18 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:15:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
In-Reply-To: <d5e13edc-cb59-44be-f6b5-9556e061f5ca@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAL6v1VRV5uUii4q33UbDk-cdk__bvbCPgxefFKoukt0A@mail.gmail.com>
 <395e1f61-d443-299b-4695-d8f254585957@ajm-software.com>
 <CABuQYCD8VLxxeaATyREscVQnuAfpbCWDkFinYUS4a86K0LHi9A@mail.gmail.com>
 <d5e13edc-cb59-44be-f6b5-9556e061f5ca@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDZZHqCMDPH11AtxF1hTLV0isRBFpD-bepk4mtr8tLc0Q@mail.gmail.com>

It's working a treat here..
Thank you
I'm attaching a test app, it just adds args to the listview
works for multiple file drops
the ArgAdded event remains active while running so further launches/drops
add to list too.

BruceS


On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 19:06, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 07/07/2021 ? 15:18, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> > Excellent thank you Tony :)
> > I was so close lol, things are working now though thanks to your help.
> >
> > Much appreciated :)
> > BruceS
> >
>
> Actually doing that:
>
> If DBus.Session.Applications.Exist(TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME) Then
>
> to know if you are already on the bus is wrong, because it's not atomic.
>
> You must instead set the DBus.Unique property to TRUE before
> registering, so that a unique name is used.
>
> That way, if you register on the DBus bus again, you will get an error,
> and it will be atomic.
>
> So you should do instead:
>
> DBus.Unique = TRUE
>
> hDbusObj = New DbusObj
>
> ' Registering the first object automatically registers the application.
>
> Try DBus.Session.Register(hDbusObj, TEXTEDITOR_PATH,
> TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE])
>
> If Error Then
>
>    ' We suppose we are already registered.
>
>    If Files.Count > 0 Then
>      For Each $file In Files
>        DBus[DBus.Name][TEXTEDITOR_PATH,
> TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Open($file.Name, $file.ReadOnly,
> $file.LineNumber, $file.ColumnNumber)
>      Next
>    Endif
>
>    Try DBus[DBus.Name][TEXTEDITOR_PATH, TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Show()
>
> Endif
>
> Tell me if it actually works!
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 20:20:16 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:20:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
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Sorry Ben i missed a bit.
Yes if i set unique and remove the Exist() check it still works okay as the
Error equals the condition.

BruceS

On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 19:15, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's working a treat here..
> Thank you
> I'm attaching a test app, it just adds args to the listview
> works for multiple file drops
> the ArgAdded event remains active while running so further launches/drops
> add to list too.
>
> BruceS
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 19:06, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Le 07/07/2021 ? 15:18, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
>> >
>> > Excellent thank you Tony :)
>> > I was so close lol, things are working now though thanks to your help.
>> >
>> > Much appreciated :)
>> > BruceS
>> >
>>
>> Actually doing that:
>>
>> If DBus.Session.Applications.Exist(TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME) Then
>>
>> to know if you are already on the bus is wrong, because it's not atomic.
>>
>> You must instead set the DBus.Unique property to TRUE before
>> registering, so that a unique name is used.
>>
>> That way, if you register on the DBus bus again, you will get an error,
>> and it will be atomic.
>>
>> So you should do instead:
>>
>> DBus.Unique = TRUE
>>
>> hDbusObj = New DbusObj
>>
>> ' Registering the first object automatically registers the application.
>>
>> Try DBus.Session.Register(hDbusObj, TEXTEDITOR_PATH,
>> TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE])
>>
>> If Error Then
>>
>>    ' We suppose we are already registered.
>>
>>    If Files.Count > 0 Then
>>      For Each $file In Files
>>        DBus[DBus.Name][TEXTEDITOR_PATH,
>> TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Open($file.Name, $file.ReadOnly,
>> $file.LineNumber, $file.ColumnNumber)
>>      Next
>>    Endif
>>
>>    Try DBus[DBus.Name][TEXTEDITOR_PATH, TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Show()
>>
>> Endif
>>
>> Tell me if it actually works!
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
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From karl.reinl at fen-net.de  Wed Jul  7 21:37:18 2021
From: karl.reinl at fen-net.de (Karl Reinl)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2021 21:37:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <d6df537a-84da-5b91-43e0-82159afce57d@gmail.com>
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Am Mittwoch, den 07.07.2021, 19:49 +0200 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 07/07/2021 ? 17:55, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit :
> > Am 07.07.21 um 17:38 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> > 
> > > > I have installed Gambas 3.16.2 on a Mate system on VirtualBox,
> > > > and I
> > > > confirm your problem.
> > 
> > Here it's Ubuntu 20.04 in a VM.
> > 
> > > Apparently it's related to the initial focus. If you run the IDE,
> > > then
> > > click on a text field to give it the focus, shortcuts work.
> > 
> > Yes, here also.
> > 
> > Alles Gute
> > 
> > Christof Thalhofer
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> > 
> 
> OK, the bug has been fixed (it was present in the development
> version), 
> and the 3.16.2 tag has been updated.
> 
> Regards,
> 

Salut,

now, debuging became to be painful, F8 does not go on every time, you
have to click with the mouse on the next line first.

on both gtk3/qt5

[System]
Gambas=3.16.90 c6ed9848a (master)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.4.0-77-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
Desktop=MATE
Font=Ubuntu,11
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Language=de_DE.UTF-8
Memory=5918M

- -- 
Amicalement
Charlie
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 21:50:52 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 21:50:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <8ce0100eafc94d083557478518a5beb075be162c.camel@fen-net.de>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
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Le 07/07/2021 ? 21:37, Karl Reinl a ?crit :
> Am Mittwoch, den 07.07.2021, 19:49 +0200 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> Le 07/07/2021 ? 17:55, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit :
>>> Am 07.07.21 um 17:38 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>>>
>>>>> I have installed Gambas 3.16.2 on a Mate system on VirtualBox,
>>>>> and I
>>>>> confirm your problem.
>>>
>>> Here it's Ubuntu 20.04 in a VM.
>>>
>>>> Apparently it's related to the initial focus. If you run the IDE,
>>>> then
>>>> click on a text field to give it the focus, shortcuts work.
>>>
>>> Yes, here also.
>>>
>>> Alles Gute
>>>
>>> Christof Thalhofer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>>
> 
>> OK, the bug has been fixed (it was present in the development
>> version),
>> and the 3.16.2 tag has been updated.
> 
>> Regards,
> 
> 
> Salut,
> 
> now, debuging became to be painful, F8 does not go on every time, you
> have to click with the mouse on the next line first.
> 
> on both gtk3/qt5

No problem here. And we are talking about 3.16.2, not the development 
version.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From chrisml at deganius.de  Thu Jul  8 10:33:11 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 10:33:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <d3421cde-ce91-e9ad-c143-d9032fd90ed6@gmail.com>
References: <359597b0-171b-044d-e066-278e21fa0835@gmail.com>
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Am 07.07.21 um 21:50 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> No problem here. And we are talking about 3.16.2, not the development
> version.

It looks good on my test machine. But I could not test everything as I 
would have to rewrite parts of my software  for Ubuntu 20.

Unfortunately I do not have time at the moment.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 11:51:51 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 10:51:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
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On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 19:06, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 07/07/2021 ? 15:18, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> > Excellent thank you Tony :)
> > I was so close lol, things are working now though thanks to your help.
> >
> > Much appreciated :)
> > BruceS
> >
>
> Actually doing that:
>
> If DBus.Session.Applications.Exist(TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME) Then
>
> to know if you are already on the bus is wrong, because it's not atomic.
>
> You must instead set the DBus.Unique property to TRUE before
> registering, so that a unique name is used.
>
> That way, if you register on the DBus bus again, you will get an error,
> and it will be atomic.
>
> So you should do instead:
>
> DBus.Unique = TRUE
>
> hDbusObj = New DbusObj
>
> ' Registering the first object automatically registers the application.
>
> Try DBus.Session.Register(hDbusObj, TEXTEDITOR_PATH,
> TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE])
>
> If Error Then
>
>    ' We suppose we are already registered.
>
>    If Files.Count > 0 Then
>      For Each $file In Files
>        DBus[DBus.Name][TEXTEDITOR_PATH,
> TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Open($file.Name, $file.ReadOnly,
> $file.LineNumber, $file.ColumnNumber)
>      Next
>    Endif
>
>    Try DBus[DBus.Name][TEXTEDITOR_PATH, TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Show()
>
> Endif
>
> Tell me if it actually works!
>


Seems problematic though maybe.
To suppose an Error means the interface exists is not right.
Error.code is always -1 so that's no help
Error.text differs (bad address / unique address already registered/ etc)
but is not safe to use due to languages.
Is it possible to get the GError value?
https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-glib/dbus-glib-DBusGError.html#DBusGError

otherwise i will have to use the
If DBus.Session.Applications.Exist(DBUS_NAME) Then
just to be sure that's the error i got.
Regards
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 15:56:41 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 14:56:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 at 10:51, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 19:06, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Le 07/07/2021 ? 15:18, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
>> >
>> > Excellent thank you Tony :)
>> > I was so close lol, things are working now though thanks to your help.
>> >
>> > Much appreciated :)
>> > BruceS
>> >
>>
>> Actually doing that:
>>
>> If DBus.Session.Applications.Exist(TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_NAME) Then
>>
>> to know if you are already on the bus is wrong, because it's not atomic.
>>
>> You must instead set the DBus.Unique property to TRUE before
>> registering, so that a unique name is used.
>>
>> That way, if you register on the DBus bus again, you will get an error,
>> and it will be atomic.
>>
>> So you should do instead:
>>
>> DBus.Unique = TRUE
>>
>> hDbusObj = New DbusObj
>>
>> ' Registering the first object automatically registers the application.
>>
>> Try DBus.Session.Register(hDbusObj, TEXTEDITOR_PATH,
>> TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE])
>>
>> If Error Then
>>
>>    ' We suppose we are already registered.
>>
>>    If Files.Count > 0 Then
>>      For Each $file In Files
>>        DBus[DBus.Name][TEXTEDITOR_PATH,
>> TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Open($file.Name, $file.ReadOnly,
>> $file.LineNumber, $file.ColumnNumber)
>>      Next
>>    Endif
>>
>>    Try DBus[DBus.Name][TEXTEDITOR_PATH, TEXTEDITOR_DBUS_INTERFACE].Show()
>>
>> Endif
>>
>> Tell me if it actually works!
>>
>
>
> Seems problematic though maybe.
> To suppose an Error means the interface exists is not right.
> Error.code is always -1 so that's no help
> Error.text differs (bad address / unique address already registered/ etc)
> but is not safe to use due to languages.
> Is it possible to get the GError value?
>
> https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-glib/dbus-glib-DBusGError.html#DBusGError
>
> otherwise i will have to use the
> If DBus.Session.Applications.Exist(DBUS_NAME) Then
> just to be sure that's the error i got.
> Regards
> BruceS
>

Nope it does not work using DBus.Session.Applications.Exist() , it works if
one app is ready loaded but launching 2 apps together fails to connect for
the second but Applications[] is not yet updated.

seems all i can do is test error.Text ends with "already registered" (im
not sure if gambas translates that msg)

Another option on a gambas level is to edit the DBus.class gb.dbus and add
a boolean property "ApplicationExists" that gets set to true if the
connection fails due to already existing interface during
_RegisterApplication()

Or if Error.Code could be something other than -1 if connection exists?

then i can tell if error was because connection exists or something else.

BruceS
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 16:37:46 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 16:37:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
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Le 08/07/2021 ? 15:56, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> Nope it does not work using DBus.Session.Applications.Exist() , it works 
> if one app is ready loaded but launching 2 apps together fails to 
> connect for the second but Applications[] is not yet updated.
> 
> seems all i can do is test error.Text ends with "already registered" (im 
> not sure if gambas translates that msg)
> 
> Another option on a gambas level is to edit the DBus.class gb.dbus and 
> add a boolean property "ApplicationExists" that gets set to true if the 
> connection fails due to already existing interface during  
> _RegisterApplication()
> 
> Or if Error.Code could be something other than -1 if connection exists?
> 
> then i can tell if error was because connection exists or something else.
> 
> BruceS
> 

Error messages are never translated (otherwise it's a bug).

But of course this is a temporary workaround, and a solution like you 
suggest must be implemented.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From dovey.john at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 16:39:26 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 09:39:26 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
In-Reply-To: <5318bb26-10d3-4ece-e881-c8056f73c132@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAL6v1VRV5uUii4q33UbDk-cdk__bvbCPgxefFKoukt0A@mail.gmail.com>
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Just to throw a spammer in the works, what about those of us who run
everything throw X windows and don?t have a desktop at all?

On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:38 AM Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 08/07/2021 ? 15:56, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> > Nope it does not work using DBus.Session.Applications.Exist() , it works
> > if one app is ready loaded but launching 2 apps together fails to
> > connect for the second but Applications[] is not yet updated.
> >
> > seems all i can do is test error.Text ends with "already registered" (im
> > not sure if gambas translates that msg)
> >
> > Another option on a gambas level is to edit the DBus.class gb.dbus and
> > add a boolean property "ApplicationExists" that gets set to true if the
> > connection fails due to already existing interface during
> > _RegisterApplication()
> >
> > Or if Error.Code could be something other than -1 if connection exists?
> >
> > then i can tell if error was because connection exists or something else.
> >
> > BruceS
> >
>
> Error messages are never translated (otherwise it's a bug).
>
> But of course this is a temporary workaround, and a solution like you
> suggest must be implemented.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From tobs at taboege.de  Thu Jul  8 16:59:05 2021
From: tobs at taboege.de (Tobias Boege)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 16:59:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
In-Reply-To: <CALb7m+mAVaCgiQazxHrfypFR1LEuP6LRPmF2FmXO9ivAMdA+Zg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20210708145905.GE3158646@T580.localdomain>

On Thu, 08 Jul 2021, John Dovey wrote:
> Just to throw a spammer in the works, what about those of us who run
> everything throw X windows and don?t have a desktop at all?
> 

D-Bus does not need a desktop either, it is a message passing mechanism.
For example, systemd depends on D-Bus, so many systems without a desktop
or even without a graphical display at all might already run D-Bus.

If you don't want to rely on the presence of D-Bus, there is still the
"pid file" technique (but you have to handle stale pid files). Or you
could make your program set up a UNIX socket in a well-known location.
Other instances of your program will try to connect to the socket and
if they get a response, another instance is running. If not, they
create that socket and answer on it to prove that they're running.

Best,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Thu Jul  8 17:11:02 2021
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 15:11:02 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
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July 8, 2021 10:59 AM, "Tobias Boege via User" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Or you
> could make your program set up a UNIX socket in a well-known location.
> Other instances of your program will try to connect to the socket and
> if they get a response, another instance is running. If not, they
> create that socket and answer on it to prove that they're running.
> 

I did this on a couple of my java developments, but using a TCP socket for cross-platform use.

Regards,
Joe1962


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 18:14:49 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 17:14:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 at 15:40, John Dovey <dovey.john at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just to throw a spammer in the works, what about those of us who run
> everything throw X windows and don?t have a desktop at all?
>

Then the problem we are addressing of drag-dropping multiple files on a
launcher or selecting "open with" and it launching the application multiple
times is completely irrelevant to you .
just use the Args[] array ;)
;)

BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 18:40:36 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 17:40:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 at 15:59, Tobias Boege via User <
user at lists.gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Jul 2021, John Dovey wrote:
> > Just to throw a spammer in the works, what about those of us who run
> > everything throw X windows and don?t have a desktop at all?
> >
>
> D-Bus does not need a desktop either, it is a message passing mechanism.
> For example, systemd depends on D-Bus, so many systems without a desktop
> or even without a graphical display at all might already run D-Bus.
>
> If you don't want to rely on the presence of D-Bus, there is still the
> "pid file" technique (but you have to handle stale pid files). Or you
> could make your program set up a UNIX socket in a well-known location.
> Other instances of your program will try to connect to the socket and
> if they get a response, another instance is running. If not, they
> create that socket and answer on it to prove that they're running.
>
> Best,
> Tobias
>

i used shell and pgrep
Dim sResult As String
Shell "pgrep -f -d , " & Application.Name To sResult

that returns a list of running application Id's matching the app separated
by commas

You can then...
Dim sIDs As String[] = Split(sResult, ",")

if sIDs.Count=1 (only one app loaded)

If SIDs.Count>1 Then
then the application chooses the lowest number PID and selects it as the
master app.
Dim iLowPID as Integer = Val(sIDs[0])
For i As Integer = 1 To SIDs.Max
  iLowPID = Min(iLowPID, Val(sIDs[i]))
Next

If iLowPID = Application.Id  (then this app is master)

I've an example of doing this and using a pipe to send the master app the
args on the gambas.one forum..
https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=943

BruceS
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From tobs at taboege.de  Thu Jul  8 19:27:32 2021
From: tobs at taboege.de (Tobias Boege)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 19:27:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Single instance application, anyone else done it?
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Message-ID: <20210708172732.GF3158646@T580.localdomain>

On Thu, 08 Jul 2021, Bruce Steers wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 at 15:59, Tobias Boege via User <
> user at lists.gambas-basic.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 08 Jul 2021, John Dovey wrote:
> > > Just to throw a spammer in the works, what about those of us who run
> > > everything throw X windows and don?t have a desktop at all?
> > >
> >
> > D-Bus does not need a desktop either, it is a message passing mechanism.
> > For example, systemd depends on D-Bus, so many systems without a desktop
> > or even without a graphical display at all might already run D-Bus.
> >
> > If you don't want to rely on the presence of D-Bus, there is still the
> > "pid file" technique (but you have to handle stale pid files). Or you
> > could make your program set up a UNIX socket in a well-known location.
> > Other instances of your program will try to connect to the socket and
> > if they get a response, another instance is running. If not, they
> > create that socket and answer on it to prove that they're running.
> >
> > Best,
> > Tobias
> >
> 
> i used shell and pgrep
> Dim sResult As String
> Shell "pgrep -f -d , " & Application.Name To sResult
> 
> that returns a list of running application Id's matching the app separated
> by commas
> 
> You can then...
> Dim sIDs As String[] = Split(sResult, ",")
> 
> if sIDs.Count=1 (only one app loaded)
> 

This works until someone copies the program to a different
location and starts both, the original and the copy. Then,
pgrep will not be able to tell you that these two are in
fact the same program because the executables and hence
the command lines matched by pgrep are different.

This is probably an okay assumption to make (that people who
make and run copies of the executable are asking for trouble),
but one should be aware of making this assumption when using
the pgrep method.

Best,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 20:08:37 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2021 03:38:37 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas | Draft: DBus,
 add ConnectionExists boolean property (!238)
In-Reply-To: <merge_request_107516425@gitlab.com>
References: <reply-06648fd033ed7a80d8ef04e0cede139e@gitlab.com>
 <merge_request_107516425@gitlab.com>
Message-ID: <2f185cab6633033f309f8936b7feb259990cc8e7.camel@gmail.com>

On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 17:51 +0000, Bruce Steers (@bsteers4) wrote:
> Bruce Steers created a merge request: !238
> 
> Project:Branches: bsteers4/gambas:dbus-connectionexists to
> gambas/gambas:master
> Author: Bruce Steers
> Assignees:
> Reviewers:
> [GB.DBUS]
> 
> NEW: ConnectionExists boolean property sets true if connection fails
> due to already existing connection.
> It's a solution. Or maybe just a workaround? With this if Register()
> fails and ConnectionExists = False i know i have a different error.
> 
> I understand if you think it's not the best idea and you have a
> better idea :)
> 

Bruce,

It's not the connection that is failing. It is the attempted
registration.

>From memory, checking whether a (any) dbus server already exists can be
done by simply trying to connect to it. BUT! as Benoit said, that is
not a "atomic" process.
The way he described is the best way to do such a "set and test" check.

	try(set registration)
	except (set error)

	on_error(do something)
	else (do something else, like attempt to "become" the server*)

So it's actually failing successfully (!)

b

* a BAD idea imo. Servers should serve, clients should be simple and
stupid.
! You also have the problem when using an asynchronous check in that
the server may well exit between the check and the subsequent attempt
to use that server.



From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 20:15:06 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 20:15:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas | Draft: DBus,
 add ConnectionExists boolean property (!238)
In-Reply-To: <2f185cab6633033f309f8936b7feb259990cc8e7.camel@gmail.com>
References: <reply-06648fd033ed7a80d8ef04e0cede139e@gitlab.com>
 <merge_request_107516425@gitlab.com>
 <2f185cab6633033f309f8936b7feb259990cc8e7.camel@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ee39281-ad19-4b9b-0408-ec9f6cb883a7@gmail.com>

Le 08/07/2021 ? 20:08, bb a ?crit?:
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> It's not the connection that is failing. It is the attempted
> registration.
> 
>>From memory, checking whether a (any) dbus server already exists can be
> done by simply trying to connect to it. BUT! as Benoit said, that is
> not a "atomic" process.
> The way he described is the best way to do such a "set and test" check.
> 
> 	try(set registration)
> 	except (set error)
> 
> 	on_error(do something)
> 	else (do something else, like attempt to "become" the server*)
> 

This is not necessary to "attempt to become the server", because this is 
what is already done by the DBus registration process.

Once registered, you are "de facto" the unique "server" process. DBus 
gives you the atomicity.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 20:22:12 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2021 03:52:12 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas | Draft: DBus,
 add ConnectionExists boolean property (!238)
In-Reply-To: <2ee39281-ad19-4b9b-0408-ec9f6cb883a7@gmail.com>
References: <reply-06648fd033ed7a80d8ef04e0cede139e@gitlab.com>
 <merge_request_107516425@gitlab.com>
 <2f185cab6633033f309f8936b7feb259990cc8e7.camel@gmail.com>
 <2ee39281-ad19-4b9b-0408-ec9f6cb883a7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52055216cc2bde75688a6c52e666d68b97f113a6.camel@gmail.com>

On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 20:15 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 08/07/2021 ? 20:08, bb a ?crit :
> > Bruce,
> > 
> > It's not the connection that is failing. It is the attempted
> > registration.
> > 
> > > From memory, checking whether a (any) dbus server already exists
> > > can be
> > done by simply trying to connect to it. BUT! as Benoit said, that
> > is
> > not a "atomic" process.
> > The way he described is the best way to do such a "set and test"
> > check.
> > 
> > 	try(set registration)
> > 	except (set error)
> > 
> > 	on_error(do something)
> > 	else (do something else, like attempt to "become" the server*)
> > 
> 
> This is not necessary to "attempt to become the server", because this
> is 
> what is already done by the DBus registration process.
> 
> Once registered, you are "de facto" the unique "server" process.
> DBus 
> gives you the atomicity.
> 
Yep. For some unknown reason I was trying to come up with some kind of
else clause...

b


From tercoide at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  8 21:10:42 2021
From: tercoide at hotmail.com (martin cristia)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 16:10:42 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] glClearColor error
Message-ID: <DM6PR12MB3946B76759E17D0A7C940057C8199@DM6PR12MB3946.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

Hi, I'm having this error, with a GLArea in a form:

opengl-clearcolor: symbol lookup error: 
/usr/lib/gambas3/gb.gtk3.opengl.so: undefined symbol: glClearColor

project attatched,


[System]
Gambas=3.16.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.11.0-22-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 21.04
Desktop=UBUNTU:GNOME
Font=Ubuntu,11
Scale=8
Theme=yaru
Language=es_AR.UTF-8
Memory=11847M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.7.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.13
GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.33
GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.21
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1804.0
GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.33
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.21
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.102.0.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.107.0.0
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.15.2
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6

[Environment]
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
DESKTOP_SESSION=ubuntu
DISPLAY=:0
EDITOR=gedit
GB_GUI=gb.gtk3
GDMSESSION=ubuntu
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=/usr/share/applications/gambas3.desktop
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=3551
GJS_DEBUG_OUTPUT=stderr
GJS_DEBUG_TOPICS=JS ERROR;JS LOG
GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
GNOME_SETUP_DISPLAY=:1
GNOME_SHELL_SESSION_MODE=ubuntu
GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
HOME=<home>
IM_CONFIG_PHASE=1
INVOCATION_ID=97a4c6636e594d40bd4502b38387d1c2
JOURNAL_STREAM=8:28939
LANG=es_AR.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=es_AR.UTF-8
LC_ALL=es_AR.UTF-8
LOGNAME=<user>
MANAGERPID=949
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin:/snap/bin 

PWD=<home>
QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
QT_IM_MODULE=ibus
QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/1114,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1114 

SHELL=/bin/bash
SHLVL=0
SSH_AGENT_LAUNCHER=gnome-keyring
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
TZ=:/etc/localtime
USER=<user>
USERNAME=<user>
WAYLAND_DISPLAY=wayland-0
XAUTHORITY=/run/user/1000/.mutter-Xwaylandauth.RQX350
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntu:/etc/xdg
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=ubuntu:GNOME
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/ubuntu:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/var/lib/snapd/desktop 

XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome-
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=ubuntu
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland
XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus
_=/usr/bin/gnome-session

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 21:30:11 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 21:30:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] glClearColor error
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR12MB3946B76759E17D0A7C940057C8199@DM6PR12MB3946.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
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Le 08/07/2021 ? 21:10, martin cristia a ?crit?:
> Hi, I'm having this error, with a GLArea in a form:
> 
> opengl-clearcolor: symbol lookup error: 
> /usr/lib/gambas3/gb.gtk3.opengl.so: undefined symbol: glClearColor
> 
> project attatched,
> 
> 

No problem here (Ubuntu 21.04). 'glClearColor' is a standard OpenGL 
function, so I guess there is something wrong in your Gambas compilation.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From chrisml at deganius.de  Fri Jul  9 11:20:22 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 11:20:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <172be3e4-6b21-231a-3dfb-5e558c809376@deganius.de>
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Am 08.07.21 um 10:33 schrieb Christof Thalhofer:
> Am 07.07.21 um 21:50 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> 
>> No problem here. And we are talking about 3.16.2, not the development
>> version.
> 
> It looks good on my test machine. But I could not test everything as I
> would have to rewrite parts of my software  for Ubuntu 20.

I see a problem with QT5 with positioning a window. But I think it's old 
and has nothing to do with the current release. But it prevents me to 
switch my software from QT4 to QT5.

I attach a project. It's a component, when you open it and hit [F5] you 
see a window with a combobox.

With [F4] the combobox opens/closes. In QT4 the window of the combobox 
is positioned right under the textbox, in QT5 it's mostly positioned off 
the right position, but in seldom cases it is positioned right.

Should I write a bug for that?

Apart of that everything seems to be working as expected.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From cybercamera at gmail.com  Sat Jul 10 12:40:58 2021
From: cybercamera at gmail.com (Cam Era)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 20:40:58 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question on WebView (gb.qt4.webkit) and (fav)Icons
Message-ID: <CAHrmVvO0HJCS-D78+_z4krjqEUfa=momWCnkqU7GbfeknK-B8w@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings all.

I have a form which instances  gb.qt4.webkit WebViews. I cannot seem to
either extract any Icons, nor get the _icon event for fire, even though I
know the websites have favicons.

Anyone have any experience with getting this to work?

Cheers.
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sat Jul 10 14:12:20 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 14:12:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
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Am 09.07.21 um 11:20 schrieb Christof Thalhofer:

> Should I write a bug for that?

Please forget that. It's my old, buggy code.

> Apart of that everything seems to be working as expected.

That seems to be right from my side.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From cybercamera at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 12:18:55 2021
From: cybercamera at gmail.com (Cam Era)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 20:18:55 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] (qt4) WebView .WebView property and _Icon event
Message-ID: <CAHrmVvP7cYtuM+12BxW_8qXf1gaT3VykY8KpuNBx=OOm3Je7eQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all.

Has anyone had any success in getting the (qt4) WebView .WebView property
and _Icon event to work? If so, some pointers to code or sample projects
would be appreciated.

Cheers.
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From dovey.john at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 04:49:47 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 21:49:47 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
In-Reply-To: <CAHrmVvO0HJCS-D78+_z4krjqEUfa=momWCnkqU7GbfeknK-B8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrmVvO0HJCS-D78+_z4krjqEUfa=momWCnkqU7GbfeknK-B8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALb7m+=urx1TqVohVWKrhQECy1Epf0DUN7q+mcgO+Ajpn0XACw@mail.gmail.com>

I encountered this error and wasn?t quite sure where to report it


-- 
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 10:47:59 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 09:47:59 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
In-Reply-To: <CALb7m+=urx1TqVohVWKrhQECy1Epf0DUN7q+mcgO+Ajpn0XACw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrmVvO0HJCS-D78+_z4krjqEUfa=momWCnkqU7GbfeknK-B8w@mail.gmail.com>
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Do you know of the bugtracker ?

usually for bugs like that the code producing it will need to be seen. or a
detailed explanation of how it happens
(we may be psychic but not that psychic ;) )

a m/l is not the best place to send code. the bugtracker is the best place.

BruceS

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 03:51, John Dovey <dovey.john at gmail.com> wrote:

> I encountered this error and wasn?t quite sure where to report it
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 10:53:02 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 09:53:02 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
In-Reply-To: <CALb7m+=urx1TqVohVWKrhQECy1Epf0DUN7q+mcgO+Ajpn0XACw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrmVvO0HJCS-D78+_z4krjqEUfa=momWCnkqU7GbfeknK-B8w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCCm3f6faZ+uWO056DnepD4y2to3vaW_t9S=BDRGqCnQvA@mail.gmail.com>

oops sorry i now see that's a link (non enough coffee yet)

the error seems to be the URL , where did you link to it?

there is no gb.qt.ext on the wiki just gb.qt4.ext and gb.qt5.ext but no
gb.qt.ext
BruceS


On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 03:51, John Dovey <dovey.john at gmail.com> wrote:

> I encountered this error and wasn?t quite sure where to report it
>
>
> --
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 10:59:14 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 09:59:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCm3f6faZ+uWO056DnepD4y2to3vaW_t9S=BDRGqCnQvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrmVvO0HJCS-D78+_z4krjqEUfa=momWCnkqU7GbfeknK-B8w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCCBr0Ugx9_rNMexynsA85J2jVFCGUx08U_CAmmKn6wceg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 09:53, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> oops sorry i now see that's a link (non enough coffee yet)
>
> the error seems to be the URL , where did you link to it?
>
> there is no gb.qt.ext on the wiki just gb.qt4.ext and gb.qt5.ext but no
> gb.qt.ext
> BruceS
>


There also isn't anything called "Drawing" that I know of, there is Draw
and DrawingArea  ???
Certainly no "Drawing" in gb.qt4.ext

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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 11:15:00 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:45:00 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCBr0Ugx9_rNMexynsA85J2jVFCGUx08U_CAmmKn6wceg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrmVvO0HJCS-D78+_z4krjqEUfa=momWCnkqU7GbfeknK-B8w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <ff6782380d84c4bbea494d170785a2cda40b3710.camel@gmail.com>

On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 09:59 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> 
> > the error seems to be the URL , where did you link to it?
> > 
> > there is no gb.qt.ext on the wiki just gb.qt4.ext and gb.qt5.ext
> > but no gb.qt.ext
> > BruceS
> > 
> 
> 
> There also isn't anything called "Drawing" that I know of, there is
> Draw and DrawingArea  ???
> Certainly no "Drawing" in gb.qt4.ext
> 
> BruceS
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
@BruceS
Could it be a translated page somewhere?
b


From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jul 12 11:30:44 2021
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 11:30:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TreeView.ToolTip a nice-to-have
Message-ID: <ace112c9-ce10-82f8-db8d-3501cbd86f76@osnanet.de>

Just stumbled over this one: There is no

	TreeView.Current.ToolTip

or
	TreeView[theKey].ToolTip

right?

Would be a nice thing to have though. Thunderbird (as an example) makes 
use of it, showing mail dirs containing unread messages in bold or 
bold+blue AND showing the latest new messages contained in a tooltip.

There is an application of mine which would be happy to have such a 
thing.So, Benoit, if one day you are absolutely failing to find anything 
you could improve in Gambas... :)

Regards
Rolf

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 12:20:45 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 11:20:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
In-Reply-To: <ff6782380d84c4bbea494d170785a2cda40b3710.camel@gmail.com>
References: <CAHrmVvO0HJCS-D78+_z4krjqEUfa=momWCnkqU7GbfeknK-B8w@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 10:16, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 09:59 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> >
> > > the error seems to be the URL , where did you link to it?
> > >
> > > there is no gb.qt.ext on the wiki just gb.qt4.ext and gb.qt5.ext
> > > but no gb.qt.ext
> > > BruceS
> > >
> >
> >
> > There also isn't anything called "Drawing" that I know of, there is
> > Draw and DrawingArea  ???
> > Certainly no "Drawing" in gb.qt4.ext
> >
> > BruceS
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> @BruceS
> Could it be a translated page somewhere?
> b
>

I was veering more towards a possible external search engine link error?
But then it could also be an internal wiki link error.

need more details from John on how he arrived at it.
i can reproduce it if i try the URL
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt/drawing
but that's not a link that should exist.
BruceS
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 12:28:09 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 19:58:09 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCWX5w+BaqkimVsckbDDSRa2gS7rm-n4QAYTSJyo4ddrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrmVvO0HJCS-D78+_z4krjqEUfa=momWCnkqU7GbfeknK-B8w@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 11:20 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 10:16, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 09:59 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > > 
> > > > the error seems to be the URL , where did you link to it?
> > > > 
> > > > there is no gb.qt.ext on the wiki just gb.qt4.ext and
> > gb.qt5.ext
> > > > but no gb.qt.ext
> > > > BruceS
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > There also isn't anything called "Drawing" that I know of, there
> > is
> > > Draw and DrawingArea  ???
> > > Certainly no "Drawing" in gb.qt4.ext
> > > 
> > > BruceS
> > > 
> > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> > @BruceS
> > Could it be a translated page somewhere?
> > b
> 
> I was veering more towards a possible external search engine link
> error?
> But then it could also be an internal wiki link error.
> 
> need more details from John on how he arrived at it.  
> i can reproduce it if i try the URL 
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt/drawing
> but that's not a link that should exist.
> BruceS
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Man, we are both blind and dumb!
That is the output from the wiki generator, not a page.
b 8-(



From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 12:31:56 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 11:31:56 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] TreeView.ToolTip a nice-to-have
In-Reply-To: <ace112c9-ce10-82f8-db8d-3501cbd86f76@osnanet.de>
References: <ace112c9-ce10-82f8-db8d-3501cbd86f76@osnanet.de>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAc6cmbc53Cg8FNWQN6jickQjnOssfNmH3978032o=yPg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 10:31, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> wrote:

> Just stumbled over this one: There is no
>
>         TreeView.Current.ToolTip
>
> or
>         TreeView[theKey].ToolTip
>
> right?
>
> Would be a nice thing to have though. Thunderbird (as an example) makes
> use of it, showing mail dirs containing unread messages in bold or
> bold+blue AND showing the latest new messages contained in a tooltip.
>
> There is an application of mine which would be happy to have such a
> thing.So, Benoit, if one day you are absolutely failing to find anything
> you could improve in Gambas... :)
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>

should be fairly easy to make this for your app.
Enabling TreeView1.Tracking, using the TreeView1_MouseMove() event,
TreeView1.FindChild() and Balloon()
(and possibly a Timer to make things smoother)
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 12:43:19 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 11:43:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
In-Reply-To: <9082e5cb0a3c8546b4381cb0414367862ff5feb7.camel@gmail.com>
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 11:29, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 11:20 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 10:16, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 09:59 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > the error seems to be the URL , where did you link to it?
> > > > >
> > > > > there is no gb.qt.ext on the wiki just gb.qt4.ext and
> > > gb.qt5.ext
> > > > > but no gb.qt.ext
> > > > > BruceS
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There also isn't anything called "Drawing" that I know of, there
> > > is
> > > > Draw and DrawingArea  ???
> > > > Certainly no "Drawing" in gb.qt4.ext
> > > >
> > > > BruceS
> > > >
> > > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> > > @BruceS
> > > Could it be a translated page somewhere?
> > > b
> >
> > I was veering more towards a possible external search engine link
> > error?
> > But then it could also be an internal wiki link error.
> >
> > need more details from John on how he arrived at it.
> > i can reproduce it if i try the URL
> > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt/drawing
> > but that's not a link that should exist.
> > BruceS
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> Man, we are both blind and dumb!
> That is the output from the wiki generator, not a page.
> b 8-(
>

haha , i thought i'd hit the nail on the head ! :)

Looks like a screenshot of a phone browser trying to access
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt/drawing
question is where did that link come from?

BruceS
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jul 12 13:05:14 2021
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:05:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TreeView.ToolTip a nice-to-have
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAc6cmbc53Cg8FNWQN6jickQjnOssfNmH3978032o=yPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ace112c9-ce10-82f8-db8d-3501cbd86f76@osnanet.de>
 <CABuQYCAc6cmbc53Cg8FNWQN6jickQjnOssfNmH3978032o=yPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f4679f6d-9957-af01-2d63-23f2c089d730@osnanet.de>

Am 12.07.21 um 12:31 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 10:31, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de 
> <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
> 
>     Just stumbled over this one: There is no
> 
>      ? ? ? ? TreeView.Current.ToolTip
> 
>     or
>      ? ? ? ? TreeView[theKey].ToolTip
> 
>     right?
> 
>     Would be a nice thing to have though. Thunderbird (as an example) makes
>     use of it, showing mail dirs containing unread messages in bold or
>     bold+blue AND showing the latest new messages contained in a tooltip.
> 
>     There is an application of mine which would be happy to have such a
>     thing.So, Benoit, if one day you are absolutely failing to find
>     anything
>     you could improve in Gambas... :)
> 
>     Regards
>     Rolf
> 
> 
> should be fairly easy to make this for your app.
> Enabling TreeView1.Tracking, using the TreeView1_MouseMove() event, 
> TreeView1.FindChild() and Balloon()
> (and possibly a Timer to make things smoother)
> BruceS
> 
> 

Oh yes, I had this idea too. Is TreeView originally a qt or GTK thing, 
Gambas only linking to it? And does it have this tooltip option? That 
would make it rather easy for Benoit to implement it.

If not, it might be easier if each Gambas coder makes one.

BUT to make a start, I will try around a bit with the events you posted 
above, thank you for that!

Regards
Rolf

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 13:12:30 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:12:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TreeView.ToolTip a nice-to-have
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Le 12/07/2021 ? 11:30, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit?:
> Just stumbled over this one: There is no
> 
>  ????TreeView.Current.ToolTip
> 
> or
>  ????TreeView[theKey].ToolTip
> 
> right?
> 
> Would be a nice thing to have though. Thunderbird (as an example) makes 
> use of it, showing mail dirs containing unread messages in bold or 
> bold+blue AND showing the latest new messages contained in a tooltip.
> 
> There is an application of mine which would be happy to have such a 
> thing.So, Benoit, if one day you are absolutely failing to find anything 
> you could improve in Gambas... :)
> 
> Regards
> Rolf
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

There is no tooltip on TreeView items because treeview items are not 
widgets.

It must be implemented by using the MouseMove event and changing the 
TreeView tooltip on the fly. But it does not ensure that the underlying 
GUI toolkit tooltip will follow the mouse cursor, something to test.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jul 12 13:16:06 2021
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:16:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TreeView.ToolTip a nice-to-have
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Am 12.07.21 um 12:31 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 10:31, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de 
> <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
> 
>     Just stumbled over this one: There is no
> 
>      ? ? ? ? TreeView.Current.ToolTip
> 
>     or
>      ? ? ? ? TreeView[theKey].ToolTip
> 
>     right?
> 
>     Would be a nice thing to have though. Thunderbird (as an example) makes
>     use of it, showing mail dirs containing unread messages in bold or
>     bold+blue AND showing the latest new messages contained in a tooltip.
> 
>     There is an application of mine which would be happy to have such a
>     thing.So, Benoit, if one day you are absolutely failing to find
>     anything
>     you could improve in Gambas... :)
> 
>     Regards
>     Rolf
> 
> 
> should be fairly easy to make this for your app.
> Enabling TreeView1.Tracking, using the TreeView1_MouseMove() event, 
> TreeView1.FindChild() and Balloon()
> (and possibly a Timer to make things smoother)
> BruceS
> 
> 

First result: I am confused :)

FindChild() offers properties: There is actually .ToolTip (!) and .Tag, 
but it has neither .Key nor .Text

How should I find out which child the mouse points at if not using

Treeview.FindChild(Mouse.X, Mouse.Y).Key  ??

Strange!

Regards
Rolf



From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 13:19:39 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:19:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TreeView.ToolTip a nice-to-have
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Le 12/07/2021 ? 13:16, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit?:
> Am 12.07.21 um 12:31 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 10:31, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de 
>> <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
>>
>> ??? Just stumbled over this one: There is no
>>
>> ???? ? ? ? ? TreeView.Current.ToolTip
>>
>> ??? or
>> ???? ? ? ? ? TreeView[theKey].ToolTip
>>
>> ??? right?
>>
>> ??? Would be a nice thing to have though. Thunderbird (as an example) 
>> makes
>> ??? use of it, showing mail dirs containing unread messages in bold or
>> ??? bold+blue AND showing the latest new messages contained in a tooltip.
>>
>> ??? There is an application of mine which would be happy to have such a
>> ??? thing.So, Benoit, if one day you are absolutely failing to find
>> ??? anything
>> ??? you could improve in Gambas... :)
>>
>> ??? Regards
>> ??? Rolf
>>
>>
>> should be fairly easy to make this for your app.
>> Enabling TreeView1.Tracking, using the TreeView1_MouseMove() event, 
>> TreeView1.FindChild() and Balloon()
>> (and possibly a Timer to make things smoother)
>> BruceS
>>
>>
> 
> First result: I am confused :)
> 
> FindChild() offers properties: There is actually .ToolTip (!) and .Tag, 
> but it has neither .Key nor .Text
> 
> How should I find out which child the mouse points at if not using
> 
> Treeview.FindChild(Mouse.X, Mouse.Y).Key? ??
> 
> Strange!
> 
> Regards
> Rolf
> 

FindChild() is the method for finding the child widget of a container. 
TreeView is internally a Container, as every widget written in Gambas, 
even if it has actually no children (except when you edit an item, where 
a temporary text field is created).

Again, Treeview items are -not- widgets, they are not children of the 
TreeView.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jul 12 13:22:21 2021
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:22:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TreeView.ToolTip a nice-to-have
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Am 12.07.21 um 13:12 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 12/07/2021 ? 11:30, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit?:
>> Just stumbled over this one: There is no
>>
>> ?????TreeView.Current.ToolTip
>>
>> or
>> ?????TreeView[theKey].ToolTip
>>
>> right?
>>
>> Would be a nice thing to have though. Thunderbird (as an example) 
>> makes use of it, showing mail dirs containing unread messages in bold 
>> or bold+blue AND showing the latest new messages contained in a tooltip.
>>
>> There is an application of mine which would be happy to have such a 
>> thing.So, Benoit, if one day you are absolutely failing to find 
>> anything you could improve in Gambas... :)
>>
>> Regards
>> Rolf
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> There is no tooltip on TreeView items because treeview items are not 
> widgets.
> 
> It must be implemented by using the MouseMove event and changing the 
> TreeView tooltip on the fly. But it does not ensure that the underlying 
> GUI toolkit tooltip will follow the mouse cursor, something to test.
> 
> Regards,
> 


Ah ok, that's why (not). Good hint, thank you!

Regards
Rolf

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jul 12 13:23:43 2021
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:23:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TreeView.ToolTip a nice-to-have
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Am 12.07.21 um 13:19 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 12/07/2021 ? 13:16, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit?:
>> Am 12.07.21 um 12:31 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 10:31, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de 
>>> <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ??? Just stumbled over this one: There is no
>>>
>>> ???? ? ? ? ? TreeView.Current.ToolTip
>>>
>>> ??? or
>>> ???? ? ? ? ? TreeView[theKey].ToolTip
>>>
>>> ??? right?
>>>
>>> ??? Would be a nice thing to have though. Thunderbird (as an example) 
>>> makes
>>> ??? use of it, showing mail dirs containing unread messages in bold or
>>> ??? bold+blue AND showing the latest new messages contained in a 
>>> tooltip.
>>>
>>> ??? There is an application of mine which would be happy to have such a
>>> ??? thing.So, Benoit, if one day you are absolutely failing to find
>>> ??? anything
>>> ??? you could improve in Gambas... :)
>>>
>>> ??? Regards
>>> ??? Rolf
>>>
>>>
>>> should be fairly easy to make this for your app.
>>> Enabling TreeView1.Tracking, using the TreeView1_MouseMove() event, 
>>> TreeView1.FindChild() and Balloon()
>>> (and possibly a Timer to make things smoother)
>>> BruceS
>>>
>>>
>>
>> First result: I am confused :)
>>
>> FindChild() offers properties: There is actually .ToolTip (!) and 
>> .Tag, but it has neither .Key nor .Text
>>
>> How should I find out which child the mouse points at if not using
>>
>> Treeview.FindChild(Mouse.X, Mouse.Y).Key? ??
>>
>> Strange!
>>
>> Regards
>> Rolf
>>
> 
> FindChild() is the method for finding the child widget of a container. 
> TreeView is internally a Container, as every widget written in Gambas, 
> even if it has actually no children (except when you edit an item, where 
> a temporary text field is created).
> 
> Again, Treeview items are -not- widgets, they are not children of the 
> TreeView.
> 

Ah ok. Hm, is there another way to find out which item the mouse is 
currently hovering over?



From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 14:21:47 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 21:51:47 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 11:43 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 11:29, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 11:20 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 10:16, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 09:59 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > the error seems to be the URL , where did you link to it?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > there is no gb.qt.ext on the wiki just gb.qt4.ext and
> > > > gb.qt5.ext
> > > > > > but no gb.qt.ext
> > > > > > BruceS
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > There also isn't anything called "Drawing" that I know of,
> > there
> > > > is
> > > > > Draw and DrawingArea  ???
> > > > > Certainly no "Drawing" in gb.qt4.ext
> > > > > 
> > > > > BruceS
> > > > > 
> > > > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> > > > @BruceS
> > > > Could it be a translated page somewhere?
> > > > b
> > > 
> > > I was veering more towards a possible external search engine link
> > > error?
> > > But then it could also be an internal wiki link error.
> > > 
> > > need more details from John on how he arrived at it.  
> > > i can reproduce it if i try the URL 
> > > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt/drawing
> > > but that's not a link that should exist.
> > > BruceS
> > > 
> > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> > 
> > Man, we are both blind and dumb!
> > That is the output from the wiki generator, not a page.
> > b 8-(
> 
> haha , i thought i'd hit the nail on the head ! :)
> 
> Looks like a screenshot of a phone browser trying to access 
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt/drawing
> question is where did that link come from?
> 
> BruceS
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
At a guess, it's not a link at all. It's from some markdown on a wiki
page somewhere. I'd tend to think not one of the top section
(syntax/components/etc) but seeing we have no idea what to look for ...

We'll just have to wait for John to provide a bit more info.

IF I am right this is not a bug, just bad markdown by someone.
b


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 18:19:31 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:19:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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My texteditor app...
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/scripted

worked last time i used it, now neither version can load a file.

it's working okay on previous gambas versions.

my other apps work okay just this one is now broken.
only thing i can think of that makes it different is it has a Texteditor

thanks for listening.
you're a wonderful audience ;)
BruceS
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 18:27:52 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 01:57:52 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 17:19 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> My texteditor app...
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/scripted
> 
> worked last time i used it, now neither version can load a file.
> 
> it's working okay on previous gambas versions.
> 
> my other apps work okay just this one is now broken.
> only thing i can think of that makes it different is it has a
> Texteditor
> 
> thanks for listening.
> you're a wonderful audience ;)
> BruceS
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
I'm game (I am sick to death of bug #2301)

Dis what I see...

Cannot open project file :
/srv/gb3prj/demo/./scripted

This project has duplicated class files!
- ExternalTools/myGrid.class
- CustomClasses/myGrid.class
- MyEditor.class
- CustomClasses/MyEditor.class


But me not know what dat means.
b


From dovey.john at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 18:32:14 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 11:32:14 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
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My apologies, I should have provided more info.
In the ?how to? on creating charts, it links to that page (drawing) and I
got very frustrated trying to find anything resembling that.
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart

Hope that clears it up.
All the best
John

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:22 AM bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 11:43 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 11:29, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 11:20 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 10:16, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 09:59 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > the error seems to be the URL , where did you link to it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > there is no gb.qt.ext on the wiki just gb.qt4.ext and
> > > > > gb.qt5.ext
> > > > > > > but no gb.qt.ext
> > > > > > > BruceS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There also isn't anything called "Drawing" that I know of,
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > > Draw and DrawingArea  ???
> > > > > > Certainly no "Drawing" in gb.qt4.ext
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BruceS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> > > > > @BruceS
> > > > > Could it be a translated page somewhere?
> > > > > b
> > > >
> > > > I was veering more towards a possible external search engine link
> > > > error?
> > > > But then it could also be an internal wiki link error.
> > > >
> > > > need more details from John on how he arrived at it.
> > > > i can reproduce it if i try the URL
> > > > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt/drawing
> > > > but that's not a link that should exist.
> > > > BruceS
> > > >
> > > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> > >
> > > Man, we are both blind and dumb!
> > > That is the output from the wiki generator, not a page.
> > > b 8-(
> >
> > haha , i thought i'd hit the nail on the head ! :)
> >
> > Looks like a screenshot of a phone browser trying to access
> > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt/drawing
> > question is where did that link come from?
> >
> > BruceS
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> At a guess, it's not a link at all. It's from some markdown on a wiki
> page somewhere. I'd tend to think not one of the top section
> (syntax/components/etc) but seeing we have no idea what to look for ...
>
> We'll just have to wait for John to provide a bit more info.
>
> IF I am right this is not a bug, just bad markdown by someone.
> b
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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Le 12/07/2021 ? 18:32, John Dovey a ?crit?:
> My apologies, I should have provided more info.
> In the ?how to? on creating charts, it links to that page (drawing) and 
> I got very frustrated trying to find anything resembling that.
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart 
> <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart>
> 
> Hope that clears it up.
> All the best
> John
> 

In the past, the wiki made automatic links, often incorrectly. So what 
you see is a broken automatic link that can be safely removed.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 18:38:07 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 02:08:07 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 18:35 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 12/07/2021 ? 18:32, John Dovey a ?crit :
> > My apologies, I should have provided more info.
> > In the ?how to? on creating charts, it links to that page (drawing)
> > and 
> > I got very frustrated trying to find anything resembling that.
> > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart 
> > <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart>
> > 
> > Hope that clears it up.
> > All the best
> > John
> > 
> 
> In the past, the wiki made automatic links, often incorrectly. So
> what 
> you see is a broken automatic link that can be safely removed.
> 
I'm doing it now.
b


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 18:39:34 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:39:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
In-Reply-To: <bf93a812febadf4cbcf72e4373d97681aced1861.camel@gmail.com>
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 17:28, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 17:19 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > My texteditor app...
> > https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/scripted
> >
> > worked last time i used it, now neither version can load a file.
> >
> > it's working okay on previous gambas versions.
> >
> > my other apps work okay just this one is now broken.
> > only thing i can think of that makes it different is it has a
> > Texteditor
> >
> > thanks for listening.
> > you're a wonderful audience ;)
> > BruceS
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> I'm game (I am sick to death of bug #2301)
>
> Dis what I see...
>
> Cannot open project file :
> /srv/gb3prj/demo/./scripted
>
> This project has duplicated class files!
> - ExternalTools/myGrid.class
> - CustomClasses/myGrid.class
> - MyEditor.class
> - CustomClasses/MyEditor.class
>
>
> But me not know what dat means.
> b
>

Me neither , i checked i do not have duplicates..   aah oops sorry my
gitlab was messed up a bit.
have fixed it now

Cheers B
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From dovey.john at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 18:40:12 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 11:40:12 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
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Maybe link to
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4.ext/drawingarea instead?

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:39 AM bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 18:35 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > Le 12/07/2021 ? 18:32, John Dovey a ?crit :
> > > My apologies, I should have provided more info.
> > > In the ?how to? on creating charts, it links to that page (drawing)
> > > and
> > > I got very frustrated trying to find anything resembling that.
> > > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart
> > > <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart>
> > >
> > > Hope that clears it up.
> > > All the best
> > > John
> > >
> >
> > In the past, the wiki made automatic links, often incorrectly. So
> > what
> > you see is a broken automatic link that can be safely removed.
> >
> I'm doing it now.
> b
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
-- 
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 18:46:16 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:46:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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Le 12/07/2021 ? 18:27, bb a ?crit?:
> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 17:19 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
>> My texteditor app...
>> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/scripted
>>
>> worked last time i used it, now neither version can load a file.
>>
>> it's working okay on previous gambas versions.
>>
>> my other apps work okay just this one is now broken.
>> only thing i can think of that makes it different is it has a
>> Texteditor
>>
>> thanks for listening.
>> you're a wonderful audience ;)
>> BruceS
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> I'm game (I am sick to death of bug #2301)
> 
> Dis what I see...
> 
> Cannot open project file :
> /srv/gb3prj/demo/./scripted
> 
> This project has duplicated class files!
> - ExternalTools/myGrid.class
> - CustomClasses/myGrid.class
> - MyEditor.class
> - CustomClasses/MyEditor.class
> 
> 
> But me not know what dat means.
> b
> 

It means what it means: you have two source code files with the same 
name in different directories inside ".src".

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 18:53:44 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 02:23:44 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 11:40 -0500, John Dovey wrote:
> Maybe link to 
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4.ext/drawingarea instead?
Nup, that's wrong. It's just the gb.qt.drawingarea.
Anyway, I've done it and fixed some of the Ingrish, but left the text
as was.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:39 AM bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 18:35 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > > Le 12/07/2021 ? 18:32, John Dovey a ?crit :
> > > > My apologies, I should have provided more info.
> > > > In the ?how to? on creating charts, it links to that page
> > (drawing)
> > > > and 
> > > > I got very frustrated trying to find anything resembling that.
> > > > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart 
> > > > <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart>
> > > > 
> > > > Hope that clears it up.
> > > > All the best
> > > > John
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > In the past, the wiki made automatic links, often incorrectly. So
> > > what 
> > > you see is a broken automatic link that can be safely removed.
> > > 
> > I'm doing it now.
> > b
> > 
> > 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> -- 
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----



From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 18:54:18 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:54:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
In-Reply-To: <0d611e19-9781-222b-0e54-e6f82c4e2357@gmail.com>
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 17:47, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 12/07/2021 ? 18:27, bb a ?crit :
> > On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 17:19 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> >> My texteditor app...
> >> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/scripted
> >>
> >> worked last time i used it, now neither version can load a file.
> >>
> >> it's working okay on previous gambas versions.
> >>
> >> my other apps work okay just this one is now broken.
> >> only thing i can think of that makes it different is it has a
> >> Texteditor
> >>
> >> thanks for listening.
> >> you're a wonderful audience ;)
> >> BruceS
> >> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> > I'm game (I am sick to death of bug #2301)
> >
> > Dis what I see...
> >
> > Cannot open project file :
> > /srv/gb3prj/demo/./scripted
> >
> > This project has duplicated class files!
> > - ExternalTools/myGrid.class
> > - CustomClasses/myGrid.class
> > - MyEditor.class
> > - CustomClasses/MyEditor.class
> >
> >
> > But me not know what dat means.
> > b
> >
>
> It means what it means: you have two source code files with the same
> name in different directories inside ".src".
>

i did not update my gitlab correctly after moving some files around it
seems.

This is not the bug though.
I've now fixed the gitlab duplicates and still have a program that won't
load files any more :(

the scripted-newgambas (uses gtk webview) branch has a version that has not
been updated for a long time and no folders for duplicates , that won't
load a file now either :(

Cheers
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 19:13:16 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:13:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 17:54, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 17:47, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Le 12/07/2021 ? 18:27, bb a ?crit :
>> > On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 17:19 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
>> >> My texteditor app...
>> >> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/scripted
>> >>
>> >> worked last time i used it, now neither version can load a file.
>> >>
>> >> it's working okay on previous gambas versions.
>> >>
>> >> my other apps work okay just this one is now broken.
>> >> only thing i can think of that makes it different is it has a
>> >> Texteditor
>> >>
>> >> thanks for listening.
>> >> you're a wonderful audience ;)
>> >> BruceS
>> >> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>> > I'm game (I am sick to death of bug #2301)
>> >
>> > Dis what I see...
>> >
>> > Cannot open project file :
>> > /srv/gb3prj/demo/./scripted
>> >
>> > This project has duplicated class files!
>> > - ExternalTools/myGrid.class
>> > - CustomClasses/myGrid.class
>> > - MyEditor.class
>> > - CustomClasses/MyEditor.class
>> >
>> >
>> > But me not know what dat means.
>> > b
>> >
>>
>> It means what it means: you have two source code files with the same
>> name in different directories inside ".src".
>>
>
> i did not update my gitlab correctly after moving some files around it
> seems.
>
> This is not the bug though.
> I've now fixed the gitlab duplicates and still have a program that won't
> load files any more :(
>
> the scripted-newgambas (uses gtk webview) branch has a version that has
> not been updated for a long time and no folders for duplicates , that won't
> load a file now either :(
>

sorry there was still a poxy duplicate.
have now completely fixed the git

had a play to find this is a gtk bug (2 and 3), files load okay if app is
qt.
BruceS
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 19:18:26 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 02:48:26 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 17:54 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> 
> I've now fixed the gitlab duplicates and still have a program that
> won't load files any more :(
> 
> the scripted-newgambas (uses gtk webview) branch has a version that
> has not been updated for a long time and no folders for duplicates ,
> that won't load a file now either :(
> 
> Cheers
> BruceS
> 

Guessing, after looking at the code for <3 minutes either
* you have a non-terminating recursive call somewhere?
* look at TimerCursor_Timer() - it seems to spend a lot of time there?

Try running it with the profiler, that might shed a bit of light.
b


From dovey.john at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 19:25:33 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 12:25:33 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
Message-ID: <CALb7m+=1ciE6W0mF=Dj5Y0Z3AxwpsF0EWm0YW7jCKSQ6bj7iBw@mail.gmail.com>

I am working on wrapping theTelegram bot API in Gambas (as recommended
here before) but I'm not sure of a few things in the best approach.

For example, the simplest call to the API is to get info about the
bot. This looks like this:
public Token as string = "xxx"
Public apiURL As String = "https://api.telegram.org/bot" & Token & "/"
Public hClient As HttpClient
Public sBuffer As String
Public cmdResponse As String
Public cmdJSON As Collection
Public Sub Main()
getBotMe
End

Public Sub getBotMe()

    hClient = New HttpClient As "hClient"
    hClient.URL = apiURL & "getMe"
    hClient.Async = False
    hClient.Timeout = 60
    hClient.Get

    Print "Begin"
    If hClient.Status < 0 Then
        Print "ERROR"
    Else
        ' Success - read the data
        If Lof(hClient) Then sBuffer = Read #hClient, Lof(hClient)
        Print sBuffer
        cmdResponse = sBuffer
    End If
    cmdJSON = JSON.Decode(cmdResponse)
    botMe = cmdJSON["result"]
Print "End"
End

Some of the questions I have include:
- does this make sense as a way to do this?
- What is the best way to store the returned collection? I thought
about usingSTRUCT, but there is a prettyheavy warning in the wiki not
to do so.
The BotMe info is in the attached image:
JD
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From dovey.john at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 19:25:52 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 12:25:52 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki error: Drawing
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Awesome. Thank you!

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 11:54, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 11:40 -0500, John Dovey wrote:
> > Maybe link to
> > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4.ext/drawingarea instead?
> Nup, that's wrong. It's just the gb.qt.drawingarea.
> Anyway, I've done it and fixed some of the Ingrish, but left the text
> as was.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:39 AM bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 18:35 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > > > Le 12/07/2021 ? 18:32, John Dovey a ?crit :
> > > > > My apologies, I should have provided more info.
> > > > > In the ?how to? on creating charts, it links to that page
> > > (drawing)
> > > > > and
> > > > > I got very frustrated trying to find anything resembling that.
> > > > > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart
> > > > > <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart>
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope that clears it up.
> > > > > All the best
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the past, the wiki made automatic links, often incorrectly. So
> > > > what
> > > > you see is a broken automatic link that can be safely removed.
> > > >
> > > I'm doing it now.
> > > b
> > >
> > >
> > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
> > --
> > Sent from Gmail Mobile
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 19:31:11 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 03:01:11 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 18:13 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> 

> sorry there was still a poxy duplicate.
> have now completely fixed the git
> 
> had a play to find this is a gtk bug (2 and 3), files load okay if
> app is qt.
> BruceS
> 
> 
MacroRecorder.LoadX11Defs -> MacroRecorder.InTrim called 2498 times?



From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 19:32:58 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:32:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 18:19, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 17:54 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> >
> > I've now fixed the gitlab duplicates and still have a program that
> > won't load files any more :(
> >
> > the scripted-newgambas (uses gtk webview) branch has a version that
> > has not been updated for a long time and no folders for duplicates ,
> > that won't load a file now either :(
> >
> > Cheers
> > BruceS
> >
>
> Guessing, after looking at the code for <3 minutes either
> * you have a non-terminating recursive call somewhere?
> * look at TimerCursor_Timer() - it seems to spend a lot of time there?
>
> Try running it with the profiler, that might shed a bit of light.
> b
>

Cheers dude , i tried the profiler, it didn't give any hints even after
letting it hang for a while.

I'm pretty sure "I" don't have an eternally recursive call
TimerCursor_Timer() isn't one of my functions it's part of gb.form.editor.

It runs okay with QT just not gtk and it worked okay the other day. the
editor app is my default text viewer so i use it a lot.

I suspect a recent gtk changing commit.
Cheers
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 19:55:05 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:55:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 18:32, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 18:13 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> >
>
> > sorry there was still a poxy duplicate.
> > have now completely fixed the git
> >
> > had a play to find this is a gtk bug (2 and 3), files load okay if
> > app is qt.
> > BruceS
> >
> >
> MacroRecorder.LoadX11Defs -> MacroRecorder.InTrim called 2498 times?
>

seems legit.
it goes through the keysysdef.h file turning multiple spaces into a single
space on each line.
so
#define XK_BackSpace                     0xff08  /* Back space, back char */
becomes...
#define XK_BackSpace 0xff08 /* Back space, back char */

though i did recently discover the Scan() command so might change that.
the file has 2.5k lines
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 20:22:14 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:22:14 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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On 7/12/21 1:25 PM, John Dovey wrote:
> I am working on wrapping theTelegram bot API in Gambas (as recommended
> here before) but I'm not sure of a few things in the best approach.
> 
[snip]
> 
> Some of the questions I have include:
> - does this make sense as a way to do this?

It looks sensible to me. There are a couple things I might do a bit differently, but what you have obviously works (though I 
don't see where 'botMe' was declared).

One thing I would do is, since you've defined hClient globally, set it's unchanging parameters once and reuse it. Second, I'd 
define one universal function to retrieve the response and return a collection. See the code further down below.


> - What is the best way to store the returned collection?

As a collection? Do you see something wrong with that? For whatever state data needs to be maintained, you can declare as many 
collections as you need to store response data from the only 50-some respective methods. And, the values are very easy to access.


[code]
Public Token as string = "xxx"
Public apiURL As String = "https://api.telegram.org/bot" & Token & "/"
Public hClient As HttpClient
'Public cmdResponse As String
'Public cmdJSON As Collection
Public MyBot, ImaginaryData as Collection

Public Sub Main()

     hClient = New HttpClient As "hClient"
     hClient.Async = False
     hClient.Timeout = 60

     ' Get my bot's ID
     MyBot = getResponse("getMe")
     If MyBot Then ' May need to use "If Not IsNull(MyBot) Then" here. My recall is sometimes faulty.
         Print MyBot["id"]
     Else
         Print "ERROR"
     End If

     ' Get data from imaginary method
     ImaginaryData = getResponse("virtData")
     If ImaginaryData Then Print ImaginaryData["ether"]

End

Public Sub getResponse(sMethod) as Variant

     Dim sBuffer as String
     Dim respJSON as Collection

     hClient.URL = apiURL & sMethod
     hClient.Get

     Print "Begin"
     If hClient.Status < 0 Then
         Print "ERROR"
     Else
         ' Success - read the data
         If Lof(hClient) Then sBuffer = Read #hClient, Lof(hClient)
         Print sBuffer
         'cmdResponse = sBuffer
     End If
     Try respJSON = JSON.Decode(sBuffer)
     If Error Then Return Null
     Return respJSON
     Print "End"
End
[/code]


One other thing: if there is the possibility for the API to return a JSON object with null values, you will want to use 
JSONCollection as opposed to the Gambas native Collection.


-- 
Lee

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 20:28:29 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 03:58:29 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 12:25 -0500, John Dovey wrote:
> 
> 
> Some of the questions I have include:
> - does this make sense as a way to do this?
Yeah, it is "a" way.
> - What is the best way to store the returned collection? I thought
> about usingSTRUCT, but there is a prettyheavy warning in the wiki not
> to do so.
Let's get this STRUCT warning stuff sorted once and for all.
Structs were introduced to allow calls to and results from c++
libraries that packed stuff such that you couldn't access the innards
directly. 
They are technically a word aligned memory area that is used by the
Gambas runtime interpreter to push and pull bits of that memory area in
and out of real Gambas variables. Conceptually they are a pseudo-class
with no methods and some public variables. 
So unless you are putting together an interface to a lower level shared
library (let me say this quietly) THERE IS NO SANE REASON TO USE A
STRUCT WHEN A CLASS WILL DO.
Gambas is an object oriented language offering many (not all, personal
gripe omitted) OO features that guarantee lots of stuff like type
protection, inheritance , blah, blah, blah. So use the object-
orientation. Don't use stuff that is there for "getting around" the
protections to interact with languages that allow such BS. Gambas
classes use word alignment for data allocs, Structs don't. 
Gambas variables are run length limited, structs aren't!!!!!! 
Finally, structs may LOOK like a quick and easy way to set up a "data
structure" instead of the oh, maybe 12 seconds it takes to declare a
class. 
> The BotMe info is in the attached image:
> JD
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
b


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 21:15:09 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 04:45:09 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 14:22 -0400, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> On 7/12/21 1:25 PM, John Dovey wrote:
> > I am working on wrapping theTelegram bot API in Gambas (as
> > recommended
> > here before) but I'm not sure of a few things in the best approach.
> > 
> [snip]
> > Some of the questions I have include:
> > - does this make sense as a way to do this?
> 
> It looks sensible to me. There are a couple things I might do a bit
> differently, but what you have obviously works (though I 
> don't see where 'botMe' was declared).
> 
> One thing I would do is, since you've defined hClient globally, set
> it's unchanging parameters once and reuse it. Second, I'd 
> define one universal function to retrieve the response and return a
> collection. See the code further down below.
> 
> 
> > - What is the best way to store the returned collection?
> 
> As a collection? Do you see something wrong with that? For whatever
> state data needs to be maintained, you can declare as many 
> collections as you need to store response data from the only 50-some
> respective methods. And, the values are very easy to access.
> 
> 
> [code]
> Public Token as string = "xxx"
> Public apiURL As String = "https://api.telegram.org/bot" & Token &
> "/"
> Public hClient As HttpClient
> 'Public cmdResponse As String
> 'Public cmdJSON As Collection
> Public MyBot, ImaginaryData as Collection
> 
> Public Sub Main()
> 
>      hClient = New HttpClient As "hClient"
>      hClient.Async = False
>      hClient.Timeout = 60
> 
>      ' Get my bot's ID
>      MyBot = getResponse("getMe")
>      If MyBot Then ' May need to use "If Not IsNull(MyBot) Then"
> here. My recall is sometimes faulty.
>          Print MyBot["id"]
>      Else
>          Print "ERROR"
>      End If
> 
>      ' Get data from imaginary method
>      ImaginaryData = getResponse("virtData")
>      If ImaginaryData Then Print ImaginaryData["ether"]
> 
> End
> 
> Public Sub getResponse(sMethod) as Variant
> 
>      Dim sBuffer as String
>      Dim respJSON as Collection
> 
>      hClient.URL = apiURL & sMethod
>      hClient.Get
> 
>      Print "Begin"
>      If hClient.Status < 0 Then
>          Print "ERROR"
>      Else
>          ' Success - read the data
>          If Lof(hClient) Then sBuffer = Read #hClient, Lof(hClient)
>          Print sBuffer
>          'cmdResponse = sBuffer
>      End If
>      Try respJSON = JSON.Decode(sBuffer)
>      If Error Then Return Null
>      Return respJSON
>      Print "End"
> End
> [/code]
> 
> 
> One other thing: if there is the possibility for the API to return a
> JSON object with null values, you will want to use 
> JSONCollection as opposed to the Gambas native Collection.
> 
> 
Hi Lee,

I had a quick look at their "API". It is just a pure JSON service. So
maybe John is over complicating things there. Without spending more
time, couldn't he just let the xml/JSON components do the heavy lifting
and just leave the "API" responses as JSON objects until such times as
they are needed somewhere in the code.
BTW is that "null" you say in the last paragraph one of those JSON_null
things? or a real null?

b


From dovey.john at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 21:22:40 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:22:40 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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I love to hear I?m over complicating things because it means there?s a
better way? which is why the advice requested.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 2:16 PM bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 14:22 -0400, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> > On 7/12/21 1:25 PM, John Dovey wrote:
> > > I am working on wrapping theTelegram bot API in Gambas (as
> > > recommended
> > > here before) but I'm not sure of a few things in the best approach.
> > >
> > [snip]
> > > Some of the questions I have include:
> > > - does this make sense as a way to do this?
> >
> > It looks sensible to me. There are a couple things I might do a bit
> > differently, but what you have obviously works (though I
> > don't see where 'botMe' was declared).
> >
> > One thing I would do is, since you've defined hClient globally, set
> > it's unchanging parameters once and reuse it. Second, I'd
> > define one universal function to retrieve the response and return a
> > collection. See the code further down below.
> >
> >
> > > - What is the best way to store the returned collection?
> >
> > As a collection? Do you see something wrong with that? For whatever
> > state data needs to be maintained, you can declare as many
> > collections as you need to store response data from the only 50-some
> > respective methods. And, the values are very easy to access.
> >
> >
> > [code]
> > Public Token as string = "xxx"
> > Public apiURL As String = "https://api.telegram.org/bot" & Token &
> > "/"
> > Public hClient As HttpClient
> > 'Public cmdResponse As String
> > 'Public cmdJSON As Collection
> > Public MyBot, ImaginaryData as Collection
> >
> > Public Sub Main()
> >
> >      hClient = New HttpClient As "hClient"
> >      hClient.Async = False
> >      hClient.Timeout = 60
> >
> >      ' Get my bot's ID
> >      MyBot = getResponse("getMe")
> >      If MyBot Then ' May need to use "If Not IsNull(MyBot) Then"
> > here. My recall is sometimes faulty.
> >          Print MyBot["id"]
> >      Else
> >          Print "ERROR"
> >      End If
> >
> >      ' Get data from imaginary method
> >      ImaginaryData = getResponse("virtData")
> >      If ImaginaryData Then Print ImaginaryData["ether"]
> >
> > End
> >
> > Public Sub getResponse(sMethod) as Variant
> >
> >      Dim sBuffer as String
> >      Dim respJSON as Collection
> >
> >      hClient.URL = apiURL & sMethod
> >      hClient.Get
> >
> >      Print "Begin"
> >      If hClient.Status < 0 Then
> >          Print "ERROR"
> >      Else
> >          ' Success - read the data
> >          If Lof(hClient) Then sBuffer = Read #hClient, Lof(hClient)
> >          Print sBuffer
> >          'cmdResponse = sBuffer
> >      End If
> >      Try respJSON = JSON.Decode(sBuffer)
> >      If Error Then Return Null
> >      Return respJSON
> >      Print "End"
> > End
> > [/code]
> >
> >
> > One other thing: if there is the possibility for the API to return a
> > JSON object with null values, you will want to use
> > JSONCollection as opposed to the Gambas native Collection.
> >
> >
> Hi Lee,
>
> I had a quick look at their "API". It is just a pure JSON service. So
> maybe John is over complicating things there. Without spending more
> time, couldn't he just let the xml/JSON components do the heavy lifting
> and just leave the "API" responses as JSON objects until such times as
> they are needed somewhere in the code.
> BTW is that "null" you say in the last paragraph one of those JSON_null
> things? or a real null?
>
> b
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
-- 
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From tercoide at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 12 21:38:48 2021
From: tercoide at hotmail.com (martin p cristia)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:38:48 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] glClearColor error
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Did you tried in both GTK and QT enviroments?

I still have the hang using official gambas /trunk PPA

El 7/9/21 a las 6:21 AM, user-request at lists.gambas-basic.org escribi?:
> No problem here (Ubuntu 21.04). 'glClearColor' is a standard OpenGL
> function, so I guess there is something wrong in your Gambas compilation.
>
> -- Beno?t Minisini

-- 
Saludos

Ing. Martin P Cristia


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 22:46:48 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 06:16:48 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 14:22 -0500, John Dovey wrote:
> 
> I love to hear I?m over complicating things because it means there?s
> a better way? which is why the advice requested.
> 
> > 
> > I had a quick look at their "API". It is just a pure JSON service
> > 
This is how I would be doing it. It's a standard web service pattern
and the Telegram "API" is just a web service that uses JSON over http:
rather than html.
Attached pic : tb_BOT is the class that "stores" the current state of
your _bot_. The other classes excise the "general" code away from that
class so they can be pluggable, changeable, etc without disturbing the
tb_BOT code.

bruce
p.s. That word "bot" almost makes me PUKE as much as "app".  (Not your
fault.)

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From dovey.john at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 01:24:34 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:24:34 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] OOP/Classes etc
Message-ID: <CALb7m+=BPcHZFcGBawtPyfcMNXdcO3nyEwE55YKia_DkyRSakQ@mail.gmail.com>

After much searching, I came across this thread
(https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=816)
It looks to me like something that REALLY deserves it's own "How To"..
I don't know whether the original author is around to give permission
to create a "how to" from this thread?

JD

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 02:44:06 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 01:44:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] OOP/Classes etc
In-Reply-To: <CALb7m+=BPcHZFcGBawtPyfcMNXdcO3nyEwE55YKia_DkyRSakQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALb7m+=BPcHZFcGBawtPyfcMNXdcO3nyEwE55YKia_DkyRSakQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 00:25, John Dovey <dovey.john at gmail.com> wrote:

> After much searching, I came across this thread
> (https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=816)
> It looks to me like something that REALLY deserves it's own "How To"..
> I don't know whether the original author is around to give permission
> to create a "how to" from this thread?
>

you can send messages on the forum,  Steve is still around.  he has a cool
website too with more gambas help.
http://captainbodgit.blogspot.com/search/label/Gambas

BruceS
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 03:54:55 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 21:54:55 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
In-Reply-To: <d0d949693101177a9a49525c9fc52decff4776b9.camel@gmail.com>
References: <CALb7m+=1ciE6W0mF=Dj5Y0Z3AxwpsF0EWm0YW7jCKSQ6bj7iBw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 7/12/21 3:15 PM, bb wrote:
> BTW is that "null" you say in the last paragraph one of those JSON_null
> things? or a real null?

Well as I understand it, JSON can contain null values but they are not referred to as JSON_null, per se. JSONCollection refers 
to them as JSON_null. So, I guess I was referring to both/either depending upon if one is examining the JSON object or its 
decoded JSONCollection.

BTW, that's a nice, logical birds-eye view of an object oriented implementation of a Telegram 'bot' (sorry). John could do 
testing of the API while refining his code with the simple program he has now. Then, if desired, relatively easily roll it into 
a class.


-- 
Lee

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 10:12:44 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 09:12:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBRjBrpzZk+t55oXezMa6OUQOPpG3jm6F3aV5Tm0oSwJg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 17:19, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> My texteditor app...
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/scripted
>
> worked last time i used it, now neither version can load a file.
>
> it's working okay on previous gambas versions.
>
> my other apps work okay just this one is now broken.
> only thing i can think of that makes it different is it has a Texteditor
>
> thanks for listening.
> you're a wonderful audience ;)
> BruceS
>

Seems to be commit
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/dbded520666e679b8ce8abef5f4a89700ebf88bd
If i revert that commit my editor loads files again.

BruceS
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 10:22:38 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 10:22:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:12, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 17:19, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     My texteditor app...
>     https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/scripted
>     <https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/scripted>
> 
>     worked last time i used it, now neither version can load a file.
> 
>     it's working okay on previous gambas versions.
> 
>     my other apps work okay just this one is now broken.
>     only thing i can think of that makes it different is it has a Texteditor
> 
>     thanks for listening.
>     you're a wonderful audience ;)
>     BruceS
> 
> 
> Seems to be commit 
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/dbded520666e679b8ce8abef5f4a89700ebf88bd 
> <https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/dbded520666e679b8ce8abef5f4a89700ebf88bd>
> If i revert that commit my editor loads files again.
> 
> BruceS
> 

What does not work exactly? Which program should I install and what 
should I do to reproduce which problem?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 10:30:31 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 09:30:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
In-Reply-To: <1b5a317f-989d-b3d8-124e-8cc0b74491ac@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBRjBrpzZk+t55oXezMa6OUQOPpG3jm6F3aV5Tm0oSwJg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCDQJajBCz8L9nUSCye6Oz-FOoxm6RKQshGi6dcAi3Bbrw@mail.gmail.com>

The application loads fine.
But when selecting a file to open (any file) it just hangs while trying to
load it.

My ScriptEd editor in the above link.

I got no error messages to try to track it down.

Like I say it was still working with qt and only recently stopped with gtk.

Thanks Ben

Bruce's

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, 09:23 Beno?t Minisini, <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:12, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 17:19, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     My texteditor app...
> >     https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/scripted
> >     <https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/scripted>
> >
> >     worked last time i used it, now neither version can load a file.
> >
> >     it's working okay on previous gambas versions.
> >
> >     my other apps work okay just this one is now broken.
> >     only thing i can think of that makes it different is it has a
> Texteditor
> >
> >     thanks for listening.
> >     you're a wonderful audience ;)
> >     BruceS
> >
> >
> > Seems to be commit
> >
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/dbded520666e679b8ce8abef5f4a89700ebf88bd
> > <
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/dbded520666e679b8ce8abef5f4a89700ebf88bd
> >
> > If i revert that commit my editor loads files again.
> >
> > BruceS
> >
>
> What does not work exactly? Which program should I install and what
> should I do to reproduce which problem?
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 10:34:01 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 10:34:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDQJajBCz8L9nUSCye6Oz-FOoxm6RKQshGi6dcAi3Bbrw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CABuQYCDbUvmTvAsQ9OgWjnvJbmA8W0cu42gntBxiR5M8iQm40A@mail.gmail.com>
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Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:30, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> The application loads fine.
> But when selecting a file to open (any file) it just hangs while trying 
> to load it.
> 
> My ScriptEd editor in the above link.
> 
> I got no error messages to try to track it down.
> 
> Like I say it was still working with qt and only recently stopped with gtk.
> 
> Thanks Ben
> 
> Bruce's
> 

I have no hang at all.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 10:49:18 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 09:49:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
In-Reply-To: <9ac0e131-ac39-e956-4195-74b66a23fc7c@gmail.com>
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 <CABuQYCDbUvmTvAsQ9OgWjnvJbmA8W0cu42gntBxiR5M8iQm40A@mail.gmail.com>
 <1b5a317f-989d-b3d8-124e-8cc0b74491ac@gmail.com>
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:35, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:30, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > The application loads fine.
> > But when selecting a file to open (any file) it just hangs while trying
> > to load it.
> >
> > My ScriptEd editor in the above link.
> >
> > I got no error messages to try to track it down.
> >
> > Like I say it was still working with qt and only recently stopped with
> gtk.
> >
> > Thanks Ben
> >
> > Bruce's
> >
>
> I have no hang at all.
>

darn it !!

it does here :(
i just reverted the revert and it's locking up again.
have tried changing themes / window manager

BruceS
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 11:23:29 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 11:23:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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References: <CABuQYCBRjBrpzZk+t55oXezMa6OUQOPpG3jm6F3aV5Tm0oSwJg@mail.gmail.com>
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Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:49, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:35, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:30, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
>      > The application loads fine.
>      > But when selecting a file to open (any file) it just hangs while
>     trying
>      > to load it.
>      >
>      > My ScriptEd editor in the above link.
>      >
>      > I got no error messages to try to track it down.
>      >
>      > Like I say it was still working with qt and only recently stopped
>     with gtk.
>      >
>      > Thanks Ben
>      >
>      > Bruce's
>      >
> 
>     I have no hang at all.
> 
> 
> darn it !!
> 
> it does here :(
> i just reverted the revert and it's locking up again.
> have tried changing themes / window manager
> 
> BruceS
> 

In that commit, the only thing that can hang is the automatic focus on 
window opening. Try to check that with 'gdb'.

$ cd /myproject/directory
$ GB_GUI=gb.gtk3 gdb gbx3
...
(gdb) run
...
^C
(gdb) bt

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 11:51:13 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 10:51:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
In-Reply-To: <d5f40362-370b-14d4-774f-1b05f388677b@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBRjBrpzZk+t55oXezMa6OUQOPpG3jm6F3aV5Tm0oSwJg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 10:24, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:49, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:35, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:30, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >      > The application loads fine.
> >      > But when selecting a file to open (any file) it just hangs while
> >     trying
> >      > to load it.
> >      >
> >      > My ScriptEd editor in the above link.
> >      >
> >      > I got no error messages to try to track it down.
> >      >
> >      > Like I say it was still working with qt and only recently stopped
> >     with gtk.
> >      >
> >      > Thanks Ben
> >      >
> >      > Bruce's
> >      >
> >
> >     I have no hang at all.
> >
> >
> > darn it !!
> >
> > it does here :(
> > i just reverted the revert and it's locking up again.
> > have tried changing themes / window manager
> >
> > BruceS
> >
>
> In that commit, the only thing that can hang is the automatic focus on
> window opening. Try to check that with 'gdb'.
>
> $ cd /myproject/directory
> $ GB_GUI=gb.gtk3 gdb gbx3
> ...
> (gdb) run
> ...
> ^C
> (gdb) bt
>

(cheers Ben i will make note of those commands for next time)

As for this problem I've fixed it.
Not sure what it was but when you said you wasn't getting the problem i
decided to fully install master branch (from ./reconf-all)
The bug did not exist on master. (phew)
so then i did just a make install on my tweaked version.
still bug was gone. (phew)
then i did a full instal from ./reconf-all on my version and bug is still
gone. (dumbfounded but still phew)

Sorry to waste anyone's time on this.

Many thanks
BruceS
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 12:13:38 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 19:43:38 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 10:51 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 10:24, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:49, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:35, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com 
> > > <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > 
> > >     Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:30, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > >      > The application loads fine.
> > >      > But when selecting a file to open (any file) it just hangs
> > while
> > >     trying
> > >      > to load it.
> > >      >
> > >      > My ScriptEd editor in the above link.
> > >      >
> > >      > I got no error messages to try to track it down.
> > >      >
> > >      > Like I say it was still working with qt and only recently
> > stopped
> > >     with gtk.
> > >      >
> > >      > Thanks Ben
> > >      >
> > >      > Bruce's
> > >      >
> > > 
> > >     I have no hang at all.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > darn it !!
> > > 
> > > it does here :(
> > > i just reverted the revert and it's locking up again.
> > > have tried changing themes / window manager
> > > 
> > > BruceS
> > > 
> > 
> > In that commit, the only thing that can hang is the automatic focus
> > on 
> > window opening. Try to check that with 'gdb'.
> > 
> > $ cd /myproject/directory
> > $ GB_GUI=gb.gtk3 gdb gbx3
> > ...
> > (gdb) run
> > ...
> > ^C
> > (gdb) bt
> 
> (cheers Ben i will make note of those commands for next time)
> 
> As for this problem I've fixed it.
> Not sure what it was but when you said you wasn't getting the problem
> i decided to fully install master branch (from ./reconf-all) 
> The bug did not exist on master. (phew)
> so then i did just a make install on my tweaked version.
> still bug was gone. (phew)
> then i did a full instal from ./reconf-all on my version and bug is
> still gone. (dumbfounded but still phew)
> 
> Sorry to waste anyone's time on this.
> 
> Many thanks
> BruceS
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

~"Ah Glasshopper, you must rearn to hole tounge in collect cheek!"

Does that mean I can now clone it again from your gitlab, cause it
looks interesting.

b

 


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 12:24:01 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 19:54:01 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
In-Reply-To: <6a31e7e8-8602-c090-c988-7d6a310c28c0@gmail.com>
References: <CALb7m+=1ciE6W0mF=Dj5Y0Z3AxwpsF0EWm0YW7jCKSQ6bj7iBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <72edd851-463c-2461-767d-c78c9aa06591@gmail.com>
 <d0d949693101177a9a49525c9fc52decff4776b9.camel@gmail.com>
 <6a31e7e8-8602-c090-c988-7d6a310c28c0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16e3dde2ca48462ebd4326685884482c28b83edb.camel@gmail.com>

On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 21:54 -0400, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> On 7/12/21 3:15 PM, bb wrote:
> > BTW is that "null" you say in the last paragraph one of those
> > JSON_null
> > things? or a real null?
> 
> Well as I understand it, JSON can contain null values but they are
> not referred to as JSON_null, per se. JSONCollection refers 
> to them as JSON_null. So, I guess I was referring to both/either
> depending upon if one is examining the JSON object or its 
> decoded JSONCollection.
> 
> BTW, that's a nice, logical birds-eye view of an object oriented
> implementation of a Telegram 'bot' (sorry). John could do 
> testing of the API while refining his code with the simple program he
> has now. Then, if desired, relatively easily roll it into 
> a class.
> 
> 
Thanks Lee, that is a fine accolade from you.

The diagram was "thrown together in only a few minutes from looking at
the Telegram (so called) "API". I am very interested in how John goes
with his bot (cough, spit). We have a similar project for a very
different JSON service on hold at the moment due to resource
constraints. 

cheers
b


From dovey.john at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 12:28:52 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 05:28:52 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
In-Reply-To: <16e3dde2ca48462ebd4326685884482c28b83edb.camel@gmail.com>
References: <CALb7m+=1ciE6W0mF=Dj5Y0Z3AxwpsF0EWm0YW7jCKSQ6bj7iBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <72edd851-463c-2461-767d-c78c9aa06591@gmail.com>
 <d0d949693101177a9a49525c9fc52decff4776b9.camel@gmail.com>
 <6a31e7e8-8602-c090-c988-7d6a310c28c0@gmail.com>
 <16e3dde2ca48462ebd4326685884482c28b83edb.camel@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALb7m+n3BzxXwGMAkKGLMTdJwMjtb-TFOS+=8EdNtqnDc6BwQg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm working on it. Slowly.
In the meantime, my VB version is running on my laptop and performing well.
Feel free to test https://t.me/FireCatShopBot or https://t.me/GOSATestBot



On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 05:25, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 21:54 -0400, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> > On 7/12/21 3:15 PM, bb wrote:
> > > BTW is that "null" you say in the last paragraph one of those
> > > JSON_null
> > > things? or a real null?
> >
> > Well as I understand it, JSON can contain null values but they are
> > not referred to as JSON_null, per se. JSONCollection refers
> > to them as JSON_null. So, I guess I was referring to both/either
> > depending upon if one is examining the JSON object or its
> > decoded JSONCollection.
> >
> > BTW, that's a nice, logical birds-eye view of an object oriented
> > implementation of a Telegram 'bot' (sorry). John could do
> > testing of the API while refining his code with the simple program he
> > has now. Then, if desired, relatively easily roll it into
> > a class.
> >
> >
> Thanks Lee, that is a fine accolade from you.
>
> The diagram was "thrown together in only a few minutes from looking at
> the Telegram (so called) "API". I am very interested in how John goes
> with his bot (cough, spit). We have a similar project for a very
> different JSON service on hold at the moment due to resource
> constraints.
>
> cheers
> b
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 13:28:29 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 12:28:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
In-Reply-To: <606f9988f1d7f1eb3e2919ddb71575aaa1784936.camel@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBRjBrpzZk+t55oXezMa6OUQOPpG3jm6F3aV5Tm0oSwJg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 11:18, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 10:51 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 10:24, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:49, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:35, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com
> > > > <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >     Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:30, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > > >      > The application loads fine.
> > > >      > But when selecting a file to open (any file) it just hangs
> > > while
> > > >     trying
> > > >      > to load it.
> > > >      >
> > > >      > My ScriptEd editor in the above link.
> > > >      >
> > > >      > I got no error messages to try to track it down.
> > > >      >
> > > >      > Like I say it was still working with qt and only recently
> > > stopped
> > > >     with gtk.
> > > >      >
> > > >      > Thanks Ben
> > > >      >
> > > >      > Bruce's
> > > >      >
> > > >
> > > >     I have no hang at all.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > darn it !!
> > > >
> > > > it does here :(
> > > > i just reverted the revert and it's locking up again.
> > > > have tried changing themes / window manager
> > > >
> > > > BruceS
> > > >
> > >
> > > In that commit, the only thing that can hang is the automatic focus
> > > on
> > > window opening. Try to check that with 'gdb'.
> > >
> > > $ cd /myproject/directory
> > > $ GB_GUI=gb.gtk3 gdb gbx3
> > > ...
> > > (gdb) run
> > > ...
> > > ^C
> > > (gdb) bt
> >
> > (cheers Ben i will make note of those commands for next time)
> >
> > As for this problem I've fixed it.
> > Not sure what it was but when you said you wasn't getting the problem
> > i decided to fully install master branch (from ./reconf-all)
> > The bug did not exist on master. (phew)
> > so then i did just a make install on my tweaked version.
> > still bug was gone. (phew)
> > then i did a full instal from ./reconf-all on my version and bug is
> > still gone. (dumbfounded but still phew)
> >
> > Sorry to waste anyone's time on this.
> >
> > Many thanks
> > BruceS
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> ~"Ah Glasshopper, you must rearn to hole tounge in collect cheek!"
>

Innit, sorry, pretty sure i've danced this dance before as well :-\
I need my desktop background to be some text saying "have you tried
re-installing gambas first? :)



> Does that mean I can now clone it again from your gitlab, cause it
> looks interesting.
>

Sure, I've fixed the file duplicates so all should be good now.

It's coolest feature is the keystroke macro recorder,  recording keystroke
events and play them back. (spent ages on that and it's still far from
perfect)
(it's not great with QT if using F3 to search text in a macro, gtk will do
the search at the time F3 is pressed in the macro but QT only does the
search at the end of all the macro keystrokes , so only works if you make
your macro so Search is the last keystroke)

Really wish Gambas had a keystroke recorder, such a useful thing (i just
had to make one)

I also emulated Pluma's External tools plugin as that's also a really
useful feature.
Wishing well
BruceS
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From hans at gambas-buch.de  Tue Jul 13 13:34:22 2021
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 13:34:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 13:53:59 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 21:23:59 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
In-Reply-To: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <0e3aea6fa87e3ea8d154be0807351b2a1215120e.camel@gmail.com>

On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 13:34 +0200, Hans Lehmann wrote:
> Public Sub btnDoTest_Click()
> 
>     Dim sSQLStatement As String
>     Dim dbResult As Result
>     
>     sSQLStatement = "SELECT vorname, nachname, gebdatum FROM contacts
> WHERE id BETWEEN 4 AND 7"
> 
>     DBConnection.Begin()
>       dbResult = DBConnection.Exec(sSQLStatement)
>     DBConnection.Commit()
>   
>     dbResult.MoveFirst()
>   
>     While (dbResult.Available)
>       Print dbResult!vorname & " " & dbResult!nachname & " ---? " &
> Format(dbResult["gebdatum"], "yyyy-mm-dd")
>       dbResult.MoveNext()
>     Wend
> 
> End
I am not totally conversant with Sqlite but...
1) You don't need the DBConnection.Begin() and Commit() as Select
doesn't need a transaction.
2) dbResult.Available just tells you there is some result. AFAIK you
should be using something like
	dbResult.MoveFirst
	Print dbResult!vorname & " " & dbResult!nachname ....

	While dbResult.MoveNext()
		Print dbResult!vorname & ... etc
	Wend

or is it While Not dbResult.MoveNext() ?
(can't remember)

hth
bruce





From hans at gambas-buch.de  Tue Jul 13 14:16:37 2021
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 14:16:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
In-Reply-To: <0e3aea6fa87e3ea8d154be0807351b2a1215120e.camel@gmail.com>
References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
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From demosthenesk at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 14:18:20 2021
From: demosthenesk at gmail.com (Demosthenes Koptsis)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 15:18:20 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.16.2 and PPA
Message-ID: <f20d3f3d-1af9-6919-8164-a9fadd70cebe@gmail.com>

Hello,

there are a few days from the release of gambas 3.16.2.

However the PPA for Focal Fossa is not updated yet.

When do you plan to make pakages for PPA?

Thanks Demosthenes.


From denisc at exemail.com.au  Tue Jul 13 14:28:13 2021
From: denisc at exemail.com.au (Denis Crowther)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 22:28:13 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
In-Reply-To: <aa406564-dd9e-db4d-7566-6c328b5023bb@gambas-buch.de>
References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
 <0e3aea6fa87e3ea8d154be0807351b2a1215120e.camel@gmail.com>
 <aa406564-dd9e-db4d-7566-6c328b5023bb@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <a0e46b62-a70a-6a0f-bb34-ebd3737dffcf@exemail.com.au>

Hi Hans,

I've never used the ODBC driver for Sqlite. There was talk recently here 
about some problem(s) with it.

I have always connected directly with Sqlite.

Maybe try connecting directly and see if the problem still exists.


You can enumerate a Result object so typically I would;

If dbResult.Available Then
     For Each dbResult

see.. http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.db/result/_next



Regards
Denis

On 13/7/21 10:16 pm, Hans Lehmann wrote:
> Hello Bruce,
> 
> regardless of which suggestion I implement - the result remains the 
> display of the first record.
> 
> Or it results in an (additional) error:
> 
> 
> 
> Yours sincerely
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 15:57:18 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 14:57:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
In-Reply-To: <d5f40362-370b-14d4-774f-1b05f388677b@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBRjBrpzZk+t55oXezMa6OUQOPpG3jm6F3aV5Tm0oSwJg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <1b5a317f-989d-b3d8-124e-8cc0b74491ac@gmail.com>
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 10:24, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:49, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:35, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Le 13/07/2021 ? 10:30, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >      > The application loads fine.
> >      > But when selecting a file to open (any file) it just hangs while
> >     trying
> >      > to load it.
> >      >
> >      > My ScriptEd editor in the above link.
> >      >
> >      > I got no error messages to try to track it down.
> >      >
> >      > Like I say it was still working with qt and only recently stopped
> >     with gtk.
> >      >
> >      > Thanks Ben
> >      >
> >      > Bruce's
> >      >
> >
> >     I have no hang at all.
> >
> >
> > darn it !!
> >
> > it does here :(
> > i just reverted the revert and it's locking up again.
> > have tried changing themes / window manager
> >
> > BruceS
> >
>
> In that commit, the only thing that can hang is the automatic focus on
> window opening. Try to check that with 'gdb'.
>
> $ cd /myproject/directory
> $ GB_GUI=gb.gtk3 gdb gbx3
> ...
> (gdb) run
> ...
> ^C
> (gdb) bt
>

Right this bug fixed on LinuxMint but on Debian11 i'm getting it and i
cannot fix it.
i used your gdb command and got this text...

I hope it means more to you than it does to me.

bonus at debian:/mnt/SSDiskspace/git/scripted-oldgambas$ GB_GUI=gb.gtk3 gdb
gbx3
GNU gdb (Debian 10.1-1.7) 10.1.90.20210103-git
Copyright (C) 2021 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "x86_64-linux-gnu".
Type "show configuration" for configuration details.
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
<https://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>.
Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at:
    <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/>.

For help, type "help".
Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"...
Reading symbols from gbx3...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx3
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".
[Detaching after vfork from child process 412840]
[New Thread 0x7ffff159d700 (LWP 412842)]
[New Thread 0x7ffff0d9c700 (LWP 412843)]
[Detaching after vfork from child process 412845]
[Detaching after vfork from child process 412848]
[Detaching after vfork from child process 412849]
[Detaching after vfork from child process 412850]
[New Thread 0x7fffeafff700 (LWP 412851)]
[New Thread 0x7fffea7fe700 (LWP 412852)]
[Thread 0x7fffea7fe700 (LWP 412852) exited]
[New Thread 0x7fffea7fe700 (LWP 412854)]
[New Thread 0x7fffebeff700 (LWP 412855)]
[New Thread 0x7fffe9ffd700 (LWP 412856)]
[Thread 0x7fffebeff700 (LWP 412855) exited]
[Thread 0x7fffea7fe700 (LWP 412854) exited]
[Detaching after fork from child process 412859]
^C
Thread 1 "gbx3" received signal SIGINT, Interrupt.
0x00007ffff62b82e0 in gtk_widget_get_type () from
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0
(gdb) bt
#0  0x00007ffff62b82e0 in gtk_widget_get_type () at
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0
#1  0x00007ffff62ba60e in gtk_widget_get_can_focus () at
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0
#2  0x00007ffff7120be0 in gControl::canFocus() const (this=<optimized out>)
at gcontrol.cpp:1283
#3  0x00007ffff713c93f in gMainWindow::setVisible(bool)
(this=0x555555963d80, vl=<optimized out>)
    at gmainwindow.cpp:913
#4  0x00007ffff713d4fd in gControl::show() (this=0x555555963d80) at
gcontrol.h:86
#5  gMainWindow::showActivate() (this=0x555555963d80) at
gmainwindow.cpp:1123
#6  0x00005555555b9905 in EXEC_native_quick () at gbx_exec.c:1175
#7  0x00005555555baa4b in EXEC_native_check (defined=<optimized out>) at
gbx_exec.c:1125
#8  0x00005555555b3caa in EXEC_loop () at gbx_exec_loop.c:1172
#9  0x00005555555b90ad in EXEC_function_loop () at gbx_exec.c:905
#10 0x00005555555b9816 in EXEC_function_real () at gbx_exec.c:892
#11 0x00005555555bac11 in EXEC_public_desc
    (class=class at entry=0x55555587a0e8, object=object at entry=0x555555a907f8,
desc=desc at entry=0x555555895158, nparam=nparam at entry=0) at gbx_exec.c:1585
#12 0x00005555555916c7 in raise_event
--Type <RET> for more, q to quit, c to continue without paging--q

Cheers
BruceS
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From dovey.john at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 17:13:22 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 10:13:22 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
In-Reply-To: <CALb7m+n3BzxXwGMAkKGLMTdJwMjtb-TFOS+=8EdNtqnDc6BwQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALb7m+=1ciE6W0mF=Dj5Y0Z3AxwpsF0EWm0YW7jCKSQ6bj7iBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <72edd851-463c-2461-767d-c78c9aa06591@gmail.com>
 <d0d949693101177a9a49525c9fc52decff4776b9.camel@gmail.com>
 <6a31e7e8-8602-c090-c988-7d6a310c28c0@gmail.com>
 <16e3dde2ca48462ebd4326685884482c28b83edb.camel@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALb7m+m26NoqHc6RNdR1CApwGbm9P+d07QtJqr3iOvaVrGrXmg@mail.gmail.com>

Ok.. I'm really battling to understand how this is supposed to work.
Any suggestions?

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 05:28, John Dovey <dovey.john at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm working on it. Slowly.
> In the meantime, my VB version is running on my laptop and performing well. Feel free to test https://t.me/FireCatShopBot or https://t.me/GOSATestBot
>
>
>
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 05:25, bb <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 21:54 -0400, T Lee Davidson wrote:
>> > On 7/12/21 3:15 PM, bb wrote:
>> > > BTW is that "null" you say in the last paragraph one of those
>> > > JSON_null
>> > > things? or a real null?
>> >
>> > Well as I understand it, JSON can contain null values but they are
>> > not referred to as JSON_null, per se. JSONCollection refers
>> > to them as JSON_null. So, I guess I was referring to both/either
>> > depending upon if one is examining the JSON object or its
>> > decoded JSONCollection.
>> >
>> > BTW, that's a nice, logical birds-eye view of an object oriented
>> > implementation of a Telegram 'bot' (sorry). John could do
>> > testing of the API while refining his code with the simple program he
>> > has now. Then, if desired, relatively easily roll it into
>> > a class.
>> >
>> >
>> Thanks Lee, that is a fine accolade from you.
>>
>> The diagram was "thrown together in only a few minutes from looking at
>> the Telegram (so called) "API". I am very interested in how John goes
>> with his bot (cough, spit). We have a similar project for a very
>> different JSON service on hold at the moment due to resource
>> constraints.
>>
>> cheers
>> b
>>
>>
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Jul 13 17:20:00 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:20:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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Hi Hans,

Am 13.07.21 um 14:16 schrieb Hans Lehmann:

> regardless of which suggestion I implement - the result remains the
> display of the first record.
> 
> Or it results in an (additional) error:

Can you tell the number of 'DbResult.Count'? I always use another way to
iterate through the tuples of a result. To call 'Result.Available' seems
to be the wrong question, because it only seems to say if tuples are
available or not:

"Returns True if the result object contains one or more accessible
database rows."

This should be always the case, if the Result contains tuples at all,
even if your program iterated through all until the end of the result set.

I usually do it this way (sry i use my own naming not your's):

>     Dim qry As String
>     Dim res As Result
> 
>     qry = "SELECT vorname, nachname, gebdatum FROM contacts WHERE id BETWEEN 4 And 7;"
>     res = DBConnection.Exec(qry)
> 
>     'Print res.Count
> 
>     If res.Count > 0 Then
>         For Each res
>             Print res!vorname & " " & res!nachname & " ---? " & Format(res["gebdatum"], "yyyy-mm-dd")
>         Next
>     Endif

(not tested)

And do you really want to use odbc? odbc is a crutch that we only use
when there is no direct way of accessing the database. But Gambas can
access Sqlite databases directly:

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.db/_connection/type

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 17:20:13 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 11:20:13 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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On 7/13/21 11:13 AM, John Dovey wrote:
> Ok.. I'm really battling to understand how this is supposed to work.
> Any suggestions?

What exactly are you referring to with "this"? Are you talking about using the Telegram API generally, or the OO version of a 
bot that Bruce conceptualized?


-- 
Lee

From dovey.john at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 17:29:37 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 10:29:37 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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OO in general. Bruce?s model I am battling to make out. I?ve figured that
using classes is easy enough to use as a substitute for struct, but how I
do the rest is a little beyond me.
In the attached project you can see I created a bot class, and I can
populate the data in it. I created the botme class (which I think is
actually an object, and I can populate that easily enough. What I?m not
sure about is the right way to do it.
JD

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 10:22 AM T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 7/13/21 11:13 AM, John Dovey wrote:
> > Ok.. I'm really battling to understand how this is supposed to work.
> > Any suggestions?
>
> What exactly are you referring to with "this"? Are you talking about using
> the Telegram API generally, or the OO version of a
> bot that Bruce conceptualized?
>
>
> --
> Lee
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 10:43:17 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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Now I'm looking at one of the objects. (user) and setting the Property
for "photo" which is another object called chatphoto.
How do I implement this?

I've got
---
tb_type_chat.class

Export
Property id As Long Use $id
Property type As String Use $type
' etc then
Property photo As Tb_type_chatphoto Use $tb_type_chatphoto '<- This
obviously refers to a different object. in the Read function, I guess
I populate the new object?

---

JD

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 10:22, T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/13/21 11:13 AM, John Dovey wrote:
> > Ok.. I'm really battling to understand how this is supposed to work.
> > Any suggestions?
>
> What exactly are you referring to with "this"? Are you talking about using the Telegram API generally, or the OO version of a
> bot that Bruce conceptualized?
>
>
> --
> Lee
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 18:24:03 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 12:24:03 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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On 7/13/21 11:29 AM, John Dovey wrote:
> What I?m not sure about is the right way to do it.

The "right" way to do it is whatever way works for you [and/or your user(s)] without causing undue issues for you, them, or the 
API server.

I admit that Bruce's conceptualization is a bit confusing at first glance and may actually be more complex than necessary for 
your project. However, I do understand his reasoning for the separate classes, ie. mainly future maintenance.

What I see in your project is you have separated the bot itself into two separate classes when it appears they should be one 
since they maintain properties, upon instantiation, for the same object. Also, if you are trying to follow Bruce's concept, the 
HTTP request functionality would be moved to its own module.

The tb_APIdef class is merely to encapsulate the various API methods and the API endpoint (URL) in a separate file for ease of 
maintenance should they change.

This is how I see the process working. The Main form (or module) is the manager. It creates, destroys, and manages any number of 
bots. When a bot is created, it should use the botMe method to establish its identity.

To do this, it would query the tb_APIdef class and receive a properly formatted request URL, for that specific method, which it 
would then pass to the tb_interface module for processing. The tb_interface module would then return the data retrieved from the 
API endpoint, and tb_BOT would then populate its properties accordingly. (That same process would be used for other 
queries/methods as well.)

I don't know what a chatphoto would be. But, if it is unique to a particular bot and does not have a multitude of required meta 
datum attached, then perhaps you could simply store it in a tb_BOT property and not bother with yet another class.


-- 
Lee

From dovey.john at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 18:53:09 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 11:53:09 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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Thank you for this!! It makes it clearer.

>What I see in your project is you have separated the bot itself into two
separate classes when it appears they should be one
since they maintain properties, upon instantiation, for the same object.

I was under the impression that I would need to create a new object/class
for each of the "objects" which the app defines. On the page
https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#user you will see the "available types"
listed. Each one is _called_ an object. How would I implement those? Each
"object" has a list of properties. When requested from the api, each one is
returned (or set) as a JSON string. Some objects include others.. such as
the message <https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#message> which includes the
user <https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#user> (multiple times), the chat
<https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#chat> (multiple times), the message
<https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#message>, an array of messageentity
<https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#messageentity> objects, etc etc.

Would it make sense to have bot.message which includes bot.message.fromuser
, bot.message.forwardfromuser or rather bot.message(fromuser, forwardfrom)
(fromuser and forwardfrom are both user objects)? Also, I don't know how to
do that.

Sorry to be an absolute pain, but I am truly lost. If I can't figure this
out, it's back to spagetti dotnet VB code...
JD



On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 11:25, T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 7/13/21 11:29 AM, John Dovey wrote:
> > What I?m not sure about is the right way to do it.
>
> The "right" way to do it is whatever way works for you [and/or your
> user(s)] without causing undue issues for you, them, or the
> API server.
>
> I admit that Bruce's conceptualization is a bit confusing at first glance
> and may actually be more complex than necessary for
> your project. However, I do understand his reasoning for the separate
> classes, ie. mainly future maintenance.
>
> What I see in your project is you have separated the bot itself into two
> separate classes when it appears they should be one
> since they maintain properties, upon instantiation, for the same object.
> Also, if you are trying to follow Bruce's concept, the
> HTTP request functionality would be moved to its own module.
>
> The tb_APIdef class is merely to encapsulate the various API methods and
> the API endpoint (URL) in a separate file for ease of
> maintenance should they change.
>
> This is how I see the process working. The Main form (or module) is the
> manager. It creates, destroys, and manages any number of
> bots. When a bot is created, it should use the botMe method to establish
> its identity.
>
> To do this, it would query the tb_APIdef class and receive a properly
> formatted request URL, for that specific method, which it
> would then pass to the tb_interface module for processing. The
> tb_interface module would then return the data retrieved from the
> API endpoint, and tb_BOT would then populate its properties accordingly.
> (That same process would be used for other
> queries/methods as well.)
>
> I don't know what a chatphoto would be. But, if it is unique to a
> particular bot and does not have a multitude of required meta
> datum attached, then perhaps you could simply store it in a tb_BOT
> property and not bother with yet another class.
>
>
> --
> Lee
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 14:37:10 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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On 7/13/21 12:53 PM, John Dovey wrote:
> I was under the impression that I would need to create a new object/class for each of the "objects" which the app defines. On 
> the page https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#user <https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#user> you will see the "available types" 
> listed. Each one is _called_ an object. How would I implement those? Each "object" has a list of properties. When requested from 
> the api, each one is returned (or set) as a JSON string. Some objects include others.. such as the message 
> <https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#message>?which includes the user <https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#user>?(multiple times), 
> the chat <https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#chat>?(multiple times), the message <https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#message>, 
> an array of messageentity <https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#messageentity>?objects, etc etc.
> 
> Would it make sense to have bot.message which includes bot.message.fromuser , bot.message.forwardfromuser or rather 
> bot.message(fromuser, forwardfrom) (fromuser and forwardfrom are both user objects)? Also, I don't know how to do that.
> 
> Sorry to be an absolute pain, but I am truly lost. If I can't figure this out, it's back to spagetti?dotnet VB code...

The API documentation refers to them as objects because they are JSON objects. That doesn't necessarily mean that they correlate 
to, or need to be represented by, Gambas objects.

One main difference between objects and collections is objects can contain methods, Collections cannot. If a set of related data 
does not also require one or more functions (methods) to manage or manipulate that data, I prefer to use Collections. Others 
prefer to use objects. Once created, the manner of accessing data in either one is a matter of syntax, ie. Chat["id"] vs. Chat.id.

The reason I try to prefer Collections over objects is that they are simpler and don't require another file in my project. 
However, for more complex projects (such as this TG API appears to present) it is quite handy to have the various data objects 
defined in a location which is easy to find; which would be in a descriptively named class as opposed to buried among many 
others in, for example, a single module. And, for data structures that are used multiple times, classes are handy for that too.


The Message object has quite a few fields. For simplicity's sake, let's say it has just three: id, user, and chat. Since 'id' is 
an integer, there's no need to create a 'type' for it. So then we would need to create classes for User and Chat.

You've already done User as tb_BotMe.class (which I did not realize when I said the two should be one and apologize if that 
confused you):
[code]
' Gambas class file

Property id As String Use $id
Property is_bot As Boolean Use $is_bot
Property first_name As String Use $first_name
Property username As String Use $username
Property can_join_groups As Boolean Use $can_join_groups
Property can_read_all_group_messages As Boolean Use $can_read_all_group_messages
Property supports_inline_queries As Boolean Use $supports_inline_queries
[/code]

That is the *entirety* of the file. With the use of the "Use" keyword, all of the respective Read() and Write() functions are 
automatically created internally. Also, unless you are creating a component, the Export keyword is not required.
[http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/propdecl]
[http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/export]

The Chat object has a few more fields. Its 'photo' field is of type ChatPhoto; which I suspect is used only once in the Chat 
object. And, it appears simple enough to be represented by a Collection, or an object if you wish - your choice. The class 
definition through the first seven properties could be:

(tb_Chat.class)
[code]
' Gambas class file

Property id as Integer Use $id
Property type as String Use $type
Property title as String Use $title
Property username as String Use $username
Property first_name as String Use $first_name
Property last_name as String Use $last_name
Property photo as ChatPhoto Use $photo
[snip]
[/code]

Suppose the definition for the 'photo' property was:
Property photo as Collection Use $photo

Which is clearer to you (or possibly anyone reading your code)? Which do you think would be easier to maintain?

And, again, with "Use", we do not need to explicitly define the getter and setter functions _unless_ we need to override any of 
their read or write behavior.

Given the syntax, "bot.message(fromuser, forwardfrom)", 'message' would be a method, not a property, of bot. So, the formats 
bot.message.fromuser and bot.message.forwardfromuser make more sense for data access.


And, finally, you're not being a pain. What do you think this list is for? :-) I just hope I have helped instead of causing you 
(even more?) confusion.


-- 
Lee

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 21:51:08 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 15:51:08 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
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On 7/13/21 11:43 AM, John Dovey wrote:
> Now I'm looking at one of the objects. (user) and setting the Property
> for "photo" which is another object called chatphoto.
> How do I implement this?
> 
> I've got
> ---
> tb_type_chat.class
> 
> Export
> Property id As Long Use $id
> Property type As String Use $type
> ' etc then
> Property photo As Tb_type_chatphoto Use $tb_type_chatphoto '<- This
> obviously refers to a different object. in the Read function, I guess
> I populate the new object?

It would be preferable to populate the object in its _new() method as opposed to its Read() method.

Let's assume that, using the tb_interface module, you have retrieved a Chat (JSON) object from the API server (with the getChat 
method?), decoded it to a JSONCollection, and returned it to the Main module in a JSONCollection called "jsonChat".

You could populate your Chat object with just:
Dim oChat = New tb_type_chat(jsonChat)

The _new() method of tb_type_chat could be, in part:
[code]
Public Sub _new(cChat as JSONCollection)
$id = cChat["id"]
$type = cChat["type"]
[snip]
$photo = New tb_type_chatphoto(cChat["photo"])
[snip]
End Sub
[/code]

The _new() method of tb_type_chatphoto could be:
[code]
Public Sub _new(cPhoto as JSONCollection)
$small_file_id = cPhoto["small_file_id"]
$small_file_unique_id = cPhoto["small_file_unique_id"]
$big_file_id = cPhoto["big_file_id"]
$big_file_unique_id = cPhoto["big_file_unique_id"]
End Sub
[/code]


This highlights one thing to me. Since JSON.Decode converts the JSON object into its appropriate Gambas type (most often 
collections), it actually might be much simpler to let the JSON component (and JSONCollection) handle the data structure instead 
of going through the pain (and possible confusion) of converting/transferring the data to objects. In that case, accessing the 
big_file_id of a Chat object's ChatPhoto object would simply be jsonChat["photo"]["big_file_id"].

And, personally if it were me, I actually might do that since I prefer simplicity over strict OO adherence. But as I said, 
others prefer objects. Pick your poison.


-- 
Lee

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 22:46:52 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 16:46:52 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas v3.16.2 release for openSUSE missing
 components?
Message-ID: <b8caeda9-0a71-5b9e-deba-2e318d19a869@gmail.com>

I don't know if anyone here would have any idea about a distro-specific Gambas repo issue, but here goes.

The openSUSE package manager tells me that there are new Gambas updates from a community (stable version) repo. But, it lists 
only 13 components for v3.16.2 when there are usually about 98 listed when an update comes out:
gambas3-gb-complex
gambas3-gb-compress
gambas3-gb-compress-zstd
gambas3-gb-crypt
gambas3-gb-gmp
gambas3-gb-gsl
gambas3-gb-httpd
gambas3-gb-inotify
gambas3-gb-ncurses
gambas3-gb-openal
gambas3-gb-openssl
gambas3-gb-sdl2-audio
gambas3-gb-vb


That can't be all that is required to upgrade from v3.16.1 to v 3.16.2. Or, is it?

I don't see anything missing in the spec file at https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home%3Amunix9/gambas3.

Any clues?


-- 
Lee

openSUSE Leap 15.2; X86_64

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 22:56:02 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 22:56:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas v3.16.2 release for openSUSE missing
 components?
In-Reply-To: <b8caeda9-0a71-5b9e-deba-2e318d19a869@gmail.com>
References: <b8caeda9-0a71-5b9e-deba-2e318d19a869@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b2ea809-46b9-9c0d-e80b-93ee86bfaf9b@gmail.com>

Le 13/07/2021 ? 22:46, T Lee Davidson a ?crit?:
> I don't know if anyone here would have any idea about a distro-specific 
> Gambas repo issue, but here goes.
> 
> The openSUSE package manager tells me that there are new Gambas updates 
> from a community (stable version) repo. But, it lists only 13 components 
> for v3.16.2 when there are usually about 98 listed when an update comes 
> out:
> gambas3-gb-complex
> gambas3-gb-compress
> gambas3-gb-compress-zstd
> gambas3-gb-crypt
> gambas3-gb-gmp
> gambas3-gb-gsl
> gambas3-gb-httpd
> gambas3-gb-inotify
> gambas3-gb-ncurses
> gambas3-gb-openal
> gambas3-gb-openssl
> gambas3-gb-sdl2-audio
> gambas3-gb-vb
> 
> 
> That can't be all that is required to upgrade from v3.16.1 to v 3.16.2. 
> Or, is it?
> 
> I don't see anything missing in the spec file at 
> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home%3Amunix9/gambas3.
> 
> Any clues?
> 
> 

3.16.2 is tagged, but not yet released. I don't know how this openSUSE 
Gambas repository is filled.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From dovey.john at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 22:58:57 2021
From: dovey.john at gmail.com (John Dovey)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 15:58:57 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for advice
In-Reply-To: <683fe235-e372-371b-f602-31820000bb95@gmail.com>
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Thank you. That's pretty clear now.

In terms of picking my poison, I'm leaning heavily in the direction of
using the JSON directly!!!
I'll experiment a little more and see how that goes.

All the best
John



On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 14:52, T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 7/13/21 11:43 AM, John Dovey wrote:
> > Now I'm looking at one of the objects. (user) and setting the Property
> > for "photo" which is another object called chatphoto.
> > How do I implement this?
> >
> > I've got
> > ---
> > tb_type_chat.class
> >
> > Export
> > Property id As Long Use $id
> > Property type As String Use $type
> > ' etc then
> > Property photo As Tb_type_chatphoto Use $tb_type_chatphoto '<- This
> > obviously refers to a different object. in the Read function, I guess
> > I populate the new object?
>
> It would be preferable to populate the object in its _new() method as
> opposed to its Read() method.
>
> Let's assume that, using the tb_interface module, you have retrieved a
> Chat (JSON) object from the API server (with the getChat
> method?), decoded it to a JSONCollection, and returned it to the Main
> module in a JSONCollection called "jsonChat".
>
> You could populate your Chat object with just:
> Dim oChat = New tb_type_chat(jsonChat)
>
> The _new() method of tb_type_chat could be, in part:
> [code]
> Public Sub _new(cChat as JSONCollection)
> $id = cChat["id"]
> $type = cChat["type"]
> [snip]
> $photo = New tb_type_chatphoto(cChat["photo"])
> [snip]
> End Sub
> [/code]
>
> The _new() method of tb_type_chatphoto could be:
> [code]
> Public Sub _new(cPhoto as JSONCollection)
> $small_file_id = cPhoto["small_file_id"]
> $small_file_unique_id = cPhoto["small_file_unique_id"]
> $big_file_id = cPhoto["big_file_id"]
> $big_file_unique_id = cPhoto["big_file_unique_id"]
> End Sub
> [/code]
>
>
> This highlights one thing to me. Since JSON.Decode converts the JSON
> object into its appropriate Gambas type (most often
> collections), it actually might be much simpler to let the JSON component
> (and JSONCollection) handle the data structure instead
> of going through the pain (and possible confusion) of
> converting/transferring the data to objects. In that case, accessing the
> big_file_id of a Chat object's ChatPhoto object would simply be
> jsonChat["photo"]["big_file_id"].
>
> And, personally if it were me, I actually might do that since I prefer
> simplicity over strict OO adherence. But as I said,
> others prefer objects. Pick your poison.
>
>
> --
> Lee
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 23:05:25 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:05:25 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas v3.16.2 release for openSUSE missing
 components?
In-Reply-To: <2b2ea809-46b9-9c0d-e80b-93ee86bfaf9b@gmail.com>
References: <b8caeda9-0a71-5b9e-deba-2e318d19a869@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <0ba6ca06-f410-2dbe-38b4-414a47f1f9b8@gmail.com>

On 7/13/21 4:56 PM, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> 3.16.2 is tagged, but not yet released. I don't know how this openSUSE Gambas?repository?is?filled.

I don't know how it is filled either. I'll just wait until v3.16.2 is officially released and see if that changes anything on 
the updates. Thank you.


-- 
Lee

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 23:12:55 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 23:12:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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Le 13/07/2021 ? 15:57, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> Right this bug fixed on LinuxMint but on Debian11 i'm getting it and i 
> cannot fix it.
> i used your gdb command and got this text...
> 
> I hope it means more to you than it does to me.
> 
> bonus at debian:/mnt/SSDiskspace/git/scripted-oldgambas$ GB_GUI=gb.gtk3 gdb 
> gbx3
 > [...]

Thanks, it is looping forever where it should, or (better) where it 
should not: searching for a default control to focus.

I have no idea why I can't reproduce the problem. Maybe you didn't tell 
me exactly what you did.

Otherwise, there is another bug in GTK+3 that makes your program eat 
100% CPU: opeing a pipe for watching. For an unknown reason to me, the 
GTK+3 event loop is woken up permanently when it watches the pipe file 
descriptor (but not the QT event loop).

By the way, I don't know why you implemented this pipe thing. You are 
reinventing DBus actually.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 00:10:54 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 23:10:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, 22:13 Beno?t Minisini, <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 13/07/2021 ? 15:57, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> > Right this bug fixed on LinuxMint but on Debian11 i'm getting it and i
> > cannot fix it.
> > i used your gdb command and got this text...
> >
> > I hope it means more to you than it does to me.
> >
> > bonus at debian:/mnt/SSDiskspace/git/scripted-oldgambas$ GB_GUI=gb.gtk3
> gdb
> > gbx3
>  > [...]
>
> Thanks, it is looping forever where it should, or (better) where it
> should not: searching for a default control to focus.
>
> I have no idea why I can't reproduce the problem. Maybe you didn't tell
> me exactly what you did.
>
> Otherwise, there is another bug in GTK+3 that makes your program eat
> 100% CPU: opeing a pipe for watching. For an unknown reason to me, the
> GTK+3 event loop is woken up permanently when it watches the pipe file
> descriptor (but not the QT event loop).
>
> By the way, I don't know why you implemented this pipe thing. You are
> reinventing DBus actually.
>

Aah I'll look into that, any pipe stuff is residual from me recently
changing to dbus (only did that the other day) using a pipe was how I first
did it. I'll remove it. I pushed the changes to fix the git repo yesterday
but it wasn't really ready.
Will be nice if it's the pipe causing the trouble. Will be home in an hour
to test.

Thanks for looking into it.

Odd though how it's now fixed in mint.
Deb 11 now has bug but not if I revert that commit i mentioned. Bug goes
away without those changes?

Respects
BruceS

>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 00:36:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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Le 14/07/2021 ? 00:10, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, 22:13 Beno?t Minisini, <g4mba5 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Le 13/07/2021 ? 15:57, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
>      >
>      > Right this bug fixed on LinuxMint but on Debian11 i'm getting it
>     and i
>      > cannot fix it.
>      > i used your gdb command and got this text...
>      >
>      > I hope it means more to you than it does to me.
>      >
>      > bonus at debian:/mnt/SSDiskspace/git/scripted-oldgambas$
>     GB_GUI=gb.gtk3 gdb
>      > gbx3
>      ?> [...]
> 
>     Thanks, it is looping forever where it should, or (better) where it
>     should not: searching for a default control to focus.
> 
>     I have no idea why I can't reproduce the problem. Maybe you didn't tell
>     me exactly what you did.
> 
>     Otherwise, there is another bug in GTK+3 that makes your program eat
>     100% CPU: opeing a pipe for watching. For an unknown reason to me, the
>     GTK+3 event loop is woken up permanently when it watches the pipe file
>     descriptor (but not the QT event loop).
> 
>     By the way, I don't know why you implemented this pipe thing. You are
>     reinventing DBus actually.
> 
> 
> Aah I'll look into that, any pipe stuff is residual from me recently 
> changing to dbus (only did that the other day) using a pipe was how I 
> first did it. I'll remove it. I pushed the changes to fix the git repo 
> yesterday but it wasn't really ready.
> Will be nice if it's the pipe causing the trouble. Will be home in an 
> hour to test.
> 
> Thanks for looking into it.
> 
> Odd though how it's now fixed in mint.
> Deb 11 now has bug but not if I revert that commit i mentioned. Bug goes 
> away without those changes?
> 
> Respects
> BruceS
> 

This is not directly the pipe the problem, but the `Shell "echo '' > 
..."` command that you issue to prevent possible blocking on pipe open.

If I remove that line, the GTK+ event loop now blocks normally, and does 
not eat CPU anymore.

That's strange: if I keep the Shell command, then there is something to 
read on the pipe, so the "File_Read" event is raised, the data is read, 
and so there is nothing left inside the pipe, the pipe is not ready to 
be read anymore, and no event is raised.

So why then does it make the GTK+ event loop wake up repeatedly (without 
telling me that the pipe is ready to read)?

It actually woke up because of an internal timeout parameter (which is 
normally associated with the earlier timer to be raised) very low. If I 
remove the Shell initial command, that timeout has the expected value 
(which correspond to the blinking editor cursor).

I will try to run a little program with just the pipe...

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 00:47:44 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 00:47:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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Le 14/07/2021 ? 00:36, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
> 
> This is not directly the pipe the problem, but the `Shell "echo '' > 
> ..."` command that you issue to prevent possible blocking on pipe open.
> 
> If I remove that line, the GTK+ event loop now blocks normally, and does 
> not eat CPU anymore.
> 
> That's strange: if I keep the Shell command, then there is something to 
> read on the pipe, so the "File_Read" event is raised, the data is read, 
> and so there is nothing left inside the pipe, the pipe is not ready to 
> be read anymore, and no event is raised.
> 
> So why then does it make the GTK+ event loop wake up repeatedly (without 
> telling me that the pipe is ready to read)?
> 
> It actually woke up because of an internal timeout parameter (which is 
> normally associated with the earlier timer to be raised) very low. If I 
> remove the Shell initial command, that timeout has the expected value 
> (which correspond to the blinking editor cursor).
> 
> I will try to run a little program with just the pipe...
> 
> Regards,
> 

Same behaviour: reading the pipe ready to read make the GTK+ event loop 
wake up repeatedly even if there is nothing to read anymore on the pipe.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 01:16:56 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 01:16:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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Le 14/07/2021 ? 00:47, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 14/07/2021 ? 00:36, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
>>
>> This is not directly the pipe the problem, but the `Shell "echo '' > 
>> ..."` command that you issue to prevent possible blocking on pipe open.
>>
>> If I remove that line, the GTK+ event loop now blocks normally, and 
>> does not eat CPU anymore.
>>
>> That's strange: if I keep the Shell command, then there is something 
>> to read on the pipe, so the "File_Read" event is raised, the data is 
>> read, and so there is nothing left inside the pipe, the pipe is not 
>> ready to be read anymore, and no event is raised.
>>
>> So why then does it make the GTK+ event loop wake up repeatedly 
>> (without telling me that the pipe is ready to read)?
>>
>> It actually woke up because of an internal timeout parameter (which is 
>> normally associated with the earlier timer to be raised) very low. If 
>> I remove the Shell initial command, that timeout has the expected 
>> value (which correspond to the blinking editor cursor).
>>
>> I will try to run a little program with just the pipe...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
> 
> Same behaviour: reading the pipe ready to read make the GTK+ event loop 
> wake up repeatedly even if there is nothing to read anymore on the pipe.
> 

OK, this is apparently not a bug, but a feature.

As you open the pipe for read, as soon as you write something on the 
other side of the pipe, and then terminates (with "echo" for example), 
Linux starts to wake up the process with repeated "POLLHUP" events to 
tell you that there is no writer on the pipe anymore, until a new 
process starts to write to the pipe again.

BUT it does not raise these events when you open the pipe alone the 
first time. Not very logical.

I don't know how QT prevented that behaviour. It seems that GTK+ always 
ask Linux to send these POLLHUP events, even if you specified you are 
not interested by them.

The only reasonable solution is apparently opening the pipe both for 
reading and writing, so that there is always at least one writer 
process. In that case, the "POLLHUP" events are not sent.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 02:27:17 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 01:27:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 00:17, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 14/07/2021 ? 00:47, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > Le 14/07/2021 ? 00:36, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> >>
> >> This is not directly the pipe the problem, but the `Shell "echo '' >
> >> ..."` command that you issue to prevent possible blocking on pipe open.
> >>
> >> If I remove that line, the GTK+ event loop now blocks normally, and
> >> does not eat CPU anymore.
> >>
> >> That's strange: if I keep the Shell command, then there is something
> >> to read on the pipe, so the "File_Read" event is raised, the data is
> >> read, and so there is nothing left inside the pipe, the pipe is not
> >> ready to be read anymore, and no event is raised.
> >>
> >> So why then does it make the GTK+ event loop wake up repeatedly
> >> (without telling me that the pipe is ready to read)?
> >>
> >> It actually woke up because of an internal timeout parameter (which is
> >> normally associated with the earlier timer to be raised) very low. If
> >> I remove the Shell initial command, that timeout has the expected
> >> value (which correspond to the blinking editor cursor).
> >>
> >> I will try to run a little program with just the pipe...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >
> > Same behaviour: reading the pipe ready to read make the GTK+ event loop
> > wake up repeatedly even if there is nothing to read anymore on the pipe.
> >
>
> OK, this is apparently not a bug, but a feature.
>
> As you open the pipe for read, as soon as you write something on the
> other side of the pipe, and then terminates (with "echo" for example),
> Linux starts to wake up the process with repeated "POLLHUP" events to
> tell you that there is no writer on the pipe anymore, until a new
> process starts to write to the pipe again.
>
> BUT it does not raise these events when you open the pipe alone the
> first time. Not very logical.
>
> I don't know how QT prevented that behaviour. It seems that GTK+ always
> ask Linux to send these POLLHUP events, even if you specified you are
> not interested by them.
>
> The only reasonable solution is apparently opening the pipe both for
> reading and writing, so that there is always at least one writer
> process. In that case, the "POLLHUP" events are not sent.
>

after getting home i looked for the residual pipe code and realised I had
removed it all and you must be using the scripted-newgambas version.
I have not worked on that version for some time. after making the html
previewer using the gtk webview i then realised that wouldn't work on older
gambas versions so the program diverged into 2 branches the oldgambas
version i changed to use a gbs script to open a separate qt form that uses
a pipe to move/size with the main window (terribly lol)
and have continued to develop the oldgambas version and not done much to
the other.

so, confusingly, the oldgambas version (the default branch) has been
further developed (in many areas) than the newgambas version.

and i will remove the pipe functions completely from the startup and use
dbus (like i have in the oldgambas version)
and see if read-write works on pipes i use.

Thank you.
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 02:45:40 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 01:45:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 22:13, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 13/07/2021 ? 15:57, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> > Right this bug fixed on LinuxMint but on Debian11 i'm getting it and i
> > cannot fix it.
> > i used your gdb command and got this text...
> >
> > I hope it means more to you than it does to me.
> >
> > bonus at debian:/mnt/SSDiskspace/git/scripted-oldgambas$ GB_GUI=gb.gtk3
> gdb
> > gbx3
>  > [...]
>
> Thanks, it is looping forever where it should, or (better) where it
> should not: searching for a default control to focus.
>
> I have no idea why I can't reproduce the problem. Maybe you didn't tell
> me exactly what you did.
>

I have tracked this down to a Balloon() call
as my files open is uses Balloon() to alert user if filetype not known.
also a Balloon() if user tries to save a file with no changes.

I just tried a blank test app with just Balloon("test msg", Me) after
button click and it hangs. (Deb11)

Respects
BruceS
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From hans at gambas-buch.de  Wed Jul 14 09:51:02 2021
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 09:51:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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Am 13.07.21 um 17:20 schrieb Christof Thalhofer:
> Can you tell the number of 'DbResult.Count'?

1
Lutz Lama ---? 1989-02-25


Obviously dbResult contains only one data set. But why?

With kind regards

Hans

From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Jul 14 10:39:31 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 10:39:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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Am 14.07.21 um 09:51 schrieb Hans Lehmann:
> Am 13.07.21 um 17:20 schrieb Christof Thalhofer:
>> Can you tell the number of 'DbResult.Count'?
> 
> 1
> Lutz Lama ---? 1989-02-25
> 
> 
> Obviously dbResult contains only one data set. But why?

It should depend on your query or your data. Are you really sure your 
query delivers more than one tuple?

Just try queries like that directly on the sqlite database on the 
commandline:

"SELECT vorname, nachname, gebdatum FROM contacts
WHERE id < 7"

or

"SELECT count(id) FROM contacts
WHERE id between 4 and 7"

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From hans at gambas-buch.de  Wed Jul 14 11:43:33 2021
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Jul 14 11:56:25 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 11:56:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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Am 14.07.21 um 11:43 schrieb Hans Lehmann:

> Yes, the above DB query returns exactly the 4 expected records.
> I suspect the error in Gambas, because I use the ODBC DSN 
> /dsn_sl3_contacts/ also in LibreOfficeWriter? with success.

Ok, then please try the connection with type "sqlite3" first. I have no 
experience with Gambas ODBC. If you have the possibility to avoid ODBC, 
you should do it.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From mckaygerhard at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 12:06:20 2021
From: mckaygerhard at gmail.com (PICCORO McKAY Lenz)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 06:06:20 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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El mar, 13 de jul. de 2021 a la(s) 11:21, Christof Thalhofer (
chrisml at deganius.de) escribi?:

> Hi Hans,
>
> Am 13.07.21 um 14:16 schrieb Hans Lehmann:
>
> > regardless of which suggestion I implement - the result remains the
> > display of the first record.
>

1. for the unfortunie of ZXmarce and Benoit is a horrent bug since 3.16.1,
not happened in 3.16.0 but 3.16.0 is not displaying propeer encondiung

Can you tell the number of 'DbResult.Count'? I always use another way to
> iterate through the tuples of a result. To call 'Result.Available' seems
> to be the wrong question, because it only seems to say if tuples are
> available or not:
>

2. Christof, and Denis. move first cannot workj under 3.16.1+ only in 3.16.0


>
> "Returns True if the result object contains one or more accessible
> database rows."
>
> This should be always the case, if the Result contains tuples at all,
> even if your program iterated through all until the end of the result set.
>

3.  the call is valid cos  the count only work for "something" and hans are
reportig that already there's "something" so it not makes sense!



>
> I usually do it this way (sry i use my own naming not your's):
> >     If res.Count > 0 Then
>

4. Still retuns only one that is a obvious ! so your suggestion doe snot
have any sense!


> And do you really want to use odbc? odbc is a crutch that we only use
>

. ODBC isn gambas are available and MUST WORK if not is BROKEN that is the
CASE! so understand?


> when there is no direct way of accessing the database. But Gambas can
> access Sqlite databases directly:
>
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.db/_connection/type
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> [x] nail here for new monitor
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 12:07:55 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 11:07:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] something's broken (do not know what)
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 01:45, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 22:13, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Le 13/07/2021 ? 15:57, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
>> >
>> > Right this bug fixed on LinuxMint but on Debian11 i'm getting it and i
>> > cannot fix it.
>> > i used your gdb command and got this text...
>> >
>> > I hope it means more to you than it does to me.
>> >
>> > bonus at debian:/mnt/SSDiskspace/git/scripted-oldgambas$ GB_GUI=gb.gtk3
>> gdb
>> > gbx3
>>  > [...]
>>
>> Thanks, it is looping forever where it should, or (better) where it
>> should not: searching for a default control to focus.
>>
>> I have no idea why I can't reproduce the problem. Maybe you didn't tell
>> me exactly what you did.
>>
>
> I have tracked this down to a Balloon() call
> as my files open is uses Balloon() to alert user if filetype not known.
> also a Balloon() if user tries to save a file with no changes.
>
> I just tried a blank test app with just Balloon("test msg", Me) after
> button click and it hangs. (Deb11)
>

Brilliant stuff Ben , all fixed now :)
Many thanks my good man :)

BruceS
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Jul 14 12:23:31 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 12:23:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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Am 14.07.21 um 12:06 schrieb PICCORO McKAY Lenz:

> 2. Christof, and Denis. move first cannot workj?under 3.16.1+ only in 3.16.0

If 'Move.First' does not work, ODBC is not usable.

> so understand?

Not really. Please, use a good translator and check what you write.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From hans at gambas-buch.de  Wed Jul 14 15:30:37 2021
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 15:30:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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From hans at gambas-buch.de  Wed Jul 14 15:40:07 2021
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 15:40:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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Hello.

Addendum:

The console program isql and also LibreOfficeBase display the data of 
all DB tables of the ODBC DNS 'dsn_sl3_contacts' - which was always 
referred to in the last posts on 'Error ODBC' - correctly, only Gambas 
terminates after the output of the first, relevant record without an 
error message (!).

With kind regards

Hans

From mckaygerhard at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 15:44:43 2021
From: mckaygerhard at gmail.com (PICCORO McKAY Lenz)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 09:44:43 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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Hans already understand and is the improtant part here, cos all the work is
for proper gambas bunch book..

also of course odbc is not working.. and rs.movenext is not standar and
does not are available in sdome odbc providers.. but fully worki8ng ones

El mi?, 14 de jul. de 2021 a la(s) 06:24, Christof Thalhofer (
chrisml at deganius.de) escribi?:

> Am 14.07.21 um 12:06 schrieb PICCORO McKAY Lenz:
>
> > 2. Christof, and Denis. move first cannot workj under 3.16.1+ only in
> 3.16.0
>
> If 'Move.First' does not work, ODBC is not usable.
>
> > so understand?
>
> Not really. Please, use a good translator and check what you write.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From mckaygerhard at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 15:49:59 2021
From: mckaygerhard at gmail.com (PICCORO McKAY Lenz)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 09:49:59 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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Hand do not use the gambas build in db browser.. it does not support the
ODBC .. so is a well know bug.. in fact the only full worked is the school
grade mysql, sqlite blob has issues and postgresql is 99% working as of my
fully professional deploys..

The issues with ODBC now are 3 in total: enconding, rows retrieving and
data type representation.

i was the person that rep?rts the most uses rare cases of DB work.. cos i
am the person that of course work more with others DB and not limited to
mysql..

ODBC are perfectly working until gambas 3.8, sqlite was workiing until 3.1,
blob has issues in 3.4 and becomes again pretty fully working in 3.9
since 3.11 ODBC are broken and unusable and gambas become not an option in
my huge deploys.. make me imposible to migrate people and systems
today was fixed at 3.16 some years after bulk of messages about the problem
in 3.11, but only limited..

El mi?, 14 de jul. de 2021 a la(s) 09:41, Hans Lehmann (hans at gambas-buch.de)
escribi?:

> Hello.
>
> Addendum:
>
> The console program isql and also LibreOfficeBase display the data of
> all DB tables of the ODBC DNS 'dsn_sl3_contacts' - which was always
> referred to in the last posts on 'Error ODBC' - correctly, only Gambas
> terminates after the output of the first, relevant record without an
> error message (!).
>
> With kind regards
>
> Hans
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 17:52:10 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 17:52:10 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
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Le 13/07/2021 ? 13:34, Hans Lehmann a ?crit?:
> Hello,
> 
> I have - following the wiki on the subject of ODBC - defined a DSN 
> (dsn_sl3_contacts), behind which lies a SQLite3 database.
> Checking in a console with the program 'isql' gave the expected results:
> 
 > [...]

I didn't find a SQLite ODBC database driver on my Ubuntu? Did I miss it?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 18:05:39 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:05:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
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Le 14/07/2021 ? 18:00, Gianluigi Gradaschi a ?crit?:
> Il 14/07/21 17:52, Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>> I didn't find a SQLite ODBC database driver on my Ubuntu? Did I miss it?
> 
> https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/20.04/ubuntu-universe-arm64/libsqliteodbc_0.9996-3_arm64.deb.html 
> 
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi

OK, found, thanks.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 18:14:10 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:14:10 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
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Le 14/07/2021 ? 17:52, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 13/07/2021 ? 13:34, Hans Lehmann a ?crit?:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have - following the wiki on the subject of ODBC - defined a DSN 
>> (dsn_sl3_contacts), behind which lies a SQLite3 database.
>> Checking in a console with the program 'isql' gave the expected results:
>>
>  > [...]
> 
> I didn't find a SQLite ODBC database driver on my Ubuntu? Did I miss it?
> 

OK, I confirm the bug.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 19:03:11 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:03:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
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Le 14/07/2021 ? 18:14, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 14/07/2021 ? 17:52, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
>> Le 13/07/2021 ? 13:34, Hans Lehmann a ?crit?:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have - following the wiki on the subject of ODBC - defined a DSN 
>>> (dsn_sl3_contacts), behind which lies a SQLite3 database.
>>> Checking in a console with the program 'isql' gave the expected results:
>>>
>> ?> [...]
>>
>> I didn't find a SQLite ODBC database driver on my Ubuntu? Did I miss it?
>>
> 
> OK, I confirm the bug.
> 

I identified two problems:

1) The record count is badly computed because apparently some of the 
ODBC functions return unexpected incoherent results.

The workaround is to switch to no record count mode.

2) 'gb.db.odbc' tries to set the ODBC statements scrollable flag, so 
that it can freely switch between rows. The ODBC driver returns a 
success (i.e. it tells "you can do that"), but then either it fails to 
switch to a row or to return row contents without raising any error at all.

I will try to find a workaround too.

Maybe it's me or ZxMarce that do not use the API the right way. Probably 
it's ODBC that is wrong.

So I suggest NOT using ODBC at all as much as possible.

It's a mess.

No driver behaves the same. To make ODBC really transparent in Gambas, 
one will have to write one code different for each ODBC driver, making 
all the ODBC thing irrelevant.

My two cents.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From mnaltrogge at it-mna.de  Wed Jul 14 19:40:35 2021
From: mnaltrogge at it-mna.de (Michael Altrogge)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:40:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
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Am 14.07.21 um 12:06 schrieb PICCORO McKAY Lenz:
>
>
> El mar, 13 de jul. de 2021 a la(s) 11:21, Christof Thalhofer 
> (chrisml at deganius.de <mailto:chrisml at deganius.de>) escribi?:
>
>     Hi Hans,
>
>     Am 13.07.21 um 14:16 schrieb Hans Lehmann:
>
>     > regardless of which suggestion I implement - the result remains the
>     > display of the first record.
>
>
> 1. for the unfortunie of ZXmarce and Benoit is a horrent bug since 
> 3.16.1,
> not happened in 3.16.0 but 3.16.0 is not displaying propeer?encondiung
>
>     Can you tell the number of 'DbResult.Count'? I always use another
>     way to
>     iterate through the tuples of a result. To call 'Result.Available'
>     seems
>     to be the wrong question, because it only seems to say if tuples are
>     available or not:
>
>
> 2. Christof, and Denis. move first cannot workj?under 3.16.1+ only in 
> 3.16.0
>
>
>     "Returns True if the result object contains one or more accessible
>     database rows."
>
>     This should be always the case, if the Result contains tuples at all,
>     even if your program iterated through all until the end of the
>     result set.
>
>
> 3.? the call is valid cos? the count only work for "something" and 
> hans are reportig that already there's "something" so it not makes sense!
>
>
>     I usually do it this way (sry i use my own naming not your's):
>     >? ? ?If res.Count > 0 Then
>
>
> 4. Still retuns only one that is a obvious ! so your suggestion doe 
> snot have any sense!
>
>     And do you really want to use odbc? odbc is a crutch that we only use
>
>
> . ODBC isn gambas are available and MUST WORK if not is BROKEN that is 
> the CASE! so understand?
>
>     when there is no direct way of accessing the database. But Gambas can
>     access Sqlite databases directly:
>
>     http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.db/_connection/type
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.db/_connection/type>
>
>     Alles Gute
>
>     Christof Thalhofer
>
>     -- 
>     [x] nail here for new monitor
>
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>
>
> Piccoro ... i haven't read anything from you for quite a while now ... 
> could have remained so ...
>
> but if you already want to write explain to me kindly why I should use 
> a generic and always more bad than good working driver when I have a 
> perfectly working fast native driver available?
>
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Jul 14 19:52:05 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:52:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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Am 14.07.21 um 19:03 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> It's a mess.

ODBC has been a mess for a long time. It should be warned about rather 
than teaching it.

> No driver behaves the same. To make ODBC really transparent in Gambas,
> one will have to write one code different for each ODBC driver, making
> all the ODBC thing irrelevant.

Yes, the same effort invested in specific database drivers would 
certainly be more effective.

After all, we have experts here who work with Oracle and Sybase. If they 
use Gambas with a proprietary database, they can also go to the trouble 
of developing the driver for it themselves and make it public available 
as OSS under the GPL license.

I believe that any energy spent on ODBC would be better spent elsewhere.

But using ODBC as a driver to talk to Sqlite with Gambas is really 
completely pointless, since a corresponding driver for Sqlite already 
exists.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 19:55:23 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:55:23 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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Le 14/07/2021 ? 19:03, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
>>
>> OK, I confirm the bug.
>>
> 
> I identified two problems:
> 
> 1) The record count is badly computed because apparently some of the 
> ODBC functions return unexpected incoherent results.
> 
> The workaround is to switch to no record count mode.
> 
> 2) 'gb.db.odbc' tries to set the ODBC statements scrollable flag, so 
> that it can freely switch between rows. The ODBC driver returns a 
> success (i.e. it tells "you can do that"), but then either it fails to 
> switch to a row or to return row contents without raising any error at all.
> 
> I will try to find a workaround too.
> 

OK, the problem was not so bad.

The point 2) was actually a problem in the point 1) workaround.

So now, things should be fixed in the last commit.

Please report if you encounter any other problems with SQLite through ODBC.

I can tell you one that is not fixable: you won't see boolean fields 
with ODBC, only with 'gb.db.sqlite'.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 20:13:20 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 03:43:20 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
In-Reply-To: <c054df63-b18b-1725-ed2c-fa257bbe4fe3@deganius.de>
References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
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On Wed, 2021-07-14 at 19:52 +0200, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 14.07.21 um 19:03 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> 
> > It's a mess.
> 
> ODBC has been a mess for a long time. It should be warned about
> rather 
> than teaching it.
> 
> > No driver behaves the same. To make ODBC really transparent in
> > Gambas,
> > one will have to write one code different for each ODBC driver,
> > making
> > all the ODBC thing irrelevant.
> 
> Yes, the same effort invested in specific database drivers would 
> certainly be more effective.
> 
> After all, we have experts here who work with Oracle and Sybase. If
> they 
> use Gambas with a proprietary database, they can also go to the
> trouble 
> of developing the driver for it themselves and make it public
> available 
> as OSS under the GPL license.
> 
> I believe that any energy spent on ODBC would be better spent
> elsewhere.
> 
> But using ODBC as a driver to talk to Sqlite with Gambas is really 
> completely pointless, since a corresponding driver for Sqlite
> already 
> exists.
> 
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
> Christof Thalhofer
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

I could not possibly agree more! With both posts!

One teeny bit of pedantry.
UnixODBC is a "framework" that switches between rdbms "drivers". There
are lots of actual drivers, sometimes multiple drivers per rdbms
(postgresql is a good example). There are also some "frameworks" other
than UnixODBC around. 

So Benoit's comment is true. "one will have to write one code different
for each ODBC driver" is tantamount to saying "one needs to be writing
a set of switchable interfaces to access a single framework which
switches in a particular driver". Which is crazy! And as we know ODBC
itself is totally incomplete as an SQL client API.

IMO the whole ODBC component should be deprecated, with extreme
prejudice. As Christof says, if people want to access an rdbms that is
not Postgresql, MariaDB or Sqlite then they can easily find a Linux
driver for it and, well not so easily, write the interface themselves.
If the rdbms is not CRUD (I forget the name for this) compliant, then
stiff Cheddar honeybunch.

In other words, as far as I'm concerned this is what we call here a
"SEP" (someone else's problem).

JM20C
bruce


From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 21:49:31 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 21:49:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
Message-ID: <39040792-19d4-9b91-3dee-f6a69c01e81f@gmail.com>

Hi,

Gambas 3.16.2 has been officially released.

The website has been updated, and Ubuntu binary packages are available 
on the Gambas Ubuntu PPA for x86_64 and ARM, from Ubuntu 14.04 to 21.10.

Please report any problem, especially with the PPA packages.

If you get some trouble with them, try to remove all previously 
installed Gambas packages before reinstalling. But report anyway!

The last fix on ODBC will be backported to a next 3.16.3, unless the 
next version is the 3.17.0.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Jul 14 22:03:15 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 22:03:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Release of Gambas 3.16.2
In-Reply-To: <39040792-19d4-9b91-3dee-f6a69c01e81f@gmail.com>
References: <39040792-19d4-9b91-3dee-f6a69c01e81f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <32fe7b30-26ea-e965-29f6-daee907b8a7f@deganius.de>

Am 14.07.21 um 21:49 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Hi,
> 
> Gambas 3.16.2 has been officially released.

Thank you very much! :-)

> The website has been updated, and Ubuntu binary packages are available
> on the Gambas Ubuntu PPA for x86_64 and ARM, from Ubuntu 14.04 to 21.10.
> 
> Please report any problem, especially with the PPA packages.
> 
> If you get some trouble with them, try to remove all previously
> installed Gambas packages before reinstalling. But report anyway!

To find out the packages installed (on a Debian based system with Apt 
like Ubuntu, Mint and others):

> dpkg -l | grep gambas3 | awk '{print $2}' | tr '\n' ' '

To remove all Gambas packages installed:

> sudo apt remove $(dpkg -l | grep gambas3 | awk '{print $2}' | tr '\n' ' ')

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Jul 14 23:16:26 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 23:16:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
In-Reply-To: <8b9058eb66b20cc9349deeae0ecf802d19c33159.camel@gmail.com>
References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
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Am 14.07.21 um 20:13 schrieb bb:

> I could not possibly agree more! With both posts!

:-)

> One teeny bit of pedantry.
> UnixODBC is a "framework" that switches between rdbms "drivers". There
> are lots of actual drivers, sometimes multiple drivers per rdbms
> (postgresql is a good example). There are also some "frameworks" other
> than UnixODBC around.

Yes, you're right. Thank you for the clarification.

Over time, I've seen people looking for ways to exchange databases but 
leave their own software that accesses the data through the database 
untouched. In my experience, as long as we're talking about a two-tier 
architecture, it's much better to think about the underlying RDBMS 
first, then decide, and then stick with the database instead of building 
your software around the idea that the database should be exchanged any 
time.*

If you are in an early state of the development switching to another db 
costs much less work at all, than programming around the bugs and 
caveats and performance issues, a middleware like ODBC brings into the 
project. Ok, this is my experience, maybe other people have others.

I have (felt) very rarely heard of projects where the databases were 
exchanged, but much more often of projects that had difficulties with 
the middleware. The middleware was actually there to make the software 
'independent' of databases. ODBC is such a thing. ORMs are such things. 
I have to admit that I like SQL and also an ORM, but only the one I 
wrote for myself. I wrote it because I didn't understand the other ORMs. ;-)

Perhaps my scope is too narrow, but I also think it is consistent with 
the current scope of Gambas. It may well be that the circumstances are 
different in a three-tier architecture, but I have too little idea about 
that.

Hans' project is about teaching unexperienced people how they can talk 
with Gambas to databases, to store data there and to fetch data from 
there and to display and alter it in Gambas forms. In my opinion ODBC 
has no place there and would lead people into the wrong direction.

> If the rdbms is not CRUD (I forget the name for this) compliant,
> then stiff Cheddar honeybunch.

... now my brain spirals ... ;-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

* Gambas itself gives us a way to work independently of the underlying 
RDBMS, look at the infobox here:

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.db

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From mckaygerhard at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 02:12:05 2021
From: mckaygerhard at gmail.com (PICCORO McKAY Lenz)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 20:12:05 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
In-Reply-To: <09244fd4-d926-d305-c8ec-85babaded075@gmail.com>
References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
 <8067313e-0830-fd0a-4fd1-0e7c95f5c056@gmail.com>
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El mi?, 14 de jul. de 2021 a la(s) 13:04, Beno?t Minisini (g4mba5 at gmail.com)
escribi?:

> >> I didn't find a SQLite ODBC database driver on my Ubuntu? Did I miss it?
>
puff winbuntu

for old debian users.. is here
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:vegnuli:deploy-vnx1/odbc-sqlite
and for most newer debian just apt from main repos

1) The record count is badly computed because apparently some of the
> ODBC functions return unexpected incoherent results.
>

lest clarify something.. the ODBC isql said:

-> SQLRowCount returns 0 <- this is only if there's no error
-> 4 rows fetched <- this is a row count but read the following:

there's not api definition on ODBC for row count results, each odbc module
has their own feature, by example the mysql school one returns row count
when insert DML SQL are performed, but that's is not SQL ANSI defined!



> The workaround is to switch to no record count mode.
>

dont worry--


>
> 2) 'gb.db.odbc' tries to set the ODBC statements scrollable flag, so
> that it can freely switch between rows. The ODBC driver returns a
> success (i.e. it tells "you can do that"), but then either it fails to
> switch to a row or to return row contents without raising any error at all.
>

already explained before but less technically


>
> I will try to find a workaround too.
>
> Maybe it's me or ZxMarce that do not use the API the right way. Probably
> it's ODBC that is wrong.
>

NO is just a API fault..  keep the good work! you can doit!


>
> So I suggest NOT using ODBC at all as much as possible.
>

IMPOSSIBLE! the reasons are obvious!


>
> No driver behaves the same. To make ODBC really transparent in Gambas,
> one will have to write one code different for each ODBC driver, making
> all the ODBC thing irrelevant.
>

just follow some defaults by example, Gambas failst is teh determination on
guess the kind of data, must be reduced.. there's a problem here...

also people rely too much on non-standard SQL features. so by example row
count as i know there's no definition for!

but gambas has a lack of anidation for resultsets and sql execution.. for
example i must close the previously opened connection to perform another
query.. if the previously do not finish and must  free the connection
object! in php there's no such limitation with the same active connection!


>
> My two cents.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Thu Jul 15 11:04:24 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 11:04:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
In-Reply-To: <CALci+FTzv8UoEv2-Sz0GsGfVUrmz+--0Yw062hxTTP2Yn-tUdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
 <8067313e-0830-fd0a-4fd1-0e7c95f5c056@gmail.com>
 <38f33758-8962-114d-66d5-23b4826170b4@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <a63d4dd3-2c07-2e56-d139-17b62fe31c7c@deganius.de>

Am 15.07.21 um 02:12 schrieb PICCORO McKAY Lenz:

> but gambas has a lack of anidation for?resultsets?and sql execution.. 

???

> for example i must close the previously opened connection to perform 
> another query.. if the previously?do not finish?and must? free the 
> connection object!
A connection always hangs as long as the current sql order is not 
finished. This is the same in every language. If you want parallel 
execution of sql orders you have to keep up multiple connections at the 
same time. This is called connection pooling.

But you can keep the db connection up in Gambas as long as you execute 
the sql orders in serial order one after the other.

In my client programs usually one connection to the database is started 
at the beginning in a singleton and then used over and over until the 
program stops at the end.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Thu Jul 15 14:51:42 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 14:51:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugtracker: Unable to log in.
Message-ID: <9468c320-a0bf-4f31-c25d-1a7902a31df0@deganius.de>

Hi,

Bugtracker: I am unable to log in.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Thu Jul 15 15:29:23 2021
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 15:29:23 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugtracker: Unable to log in.
In-Reply-To: <9468c320-a0bf-4f31-c25d-1a7902a31df0@deganius.de>
References: <9468c320-a0bf-4f31-c25d-1a7902a31df0@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <0f6e41a1-4bb4-8748-b653-a9caca59b5b3@deganius.de>

Am 15.07.21 um 14:51 schrieb Christof Thalhofer:

> Bugtracker: I am unable to log in.

Had to delete the cookie then everything was ok again.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From mckaygerhard at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 17:09:16 2021
From: mckaygerhard at gmail.com (PICCORO McKAY Lenz)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 11:09:16 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
In-Reply-To: <a63d4dd3-2c07-2e56-d139-17b62fe31c7c@deganius.de>
References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
 <8067313e-0830-fd0a-4fd1-0e7c95f5c056@gmail.com>
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El jue, 15 de jul. de 2021 a la(s) 05:05, Christof Thalhofer (
chrisml at deganius.de) escribi?:

> Am 15.07.21 um 02:12 schrieb PICCORO McKAY Lenz:
> same time. This is called connection pooling.
>
pretty the same and as i know i send a trest case and there-s some issues


>
> But you can keep the db connection up in Gambas as long as you execute
> the sql orders in serial order one after the other.
>
that-s not the case


>
> In my client programs usually one connection to the database is started
> at the beginning in a singleton and then used over and over until the
> program stops at the end.
>
that-s not the case..  and i tyred of again send again the proff of the
issues.. already existing..


>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 18:17:30 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 18:17:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
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Le 15/07/2021 ? 17:09, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a ?crit?:
> 
> 
>     But you can keep the db connection up in Gambas as long as you execute
>     the sql orders in serial order one after the other.
> 
> that-s not the case
> 
> 
>     In my client programs usually one connection to the database is started
>     at the beginning in a singleton and then used over and over until the
>     program stops at the end.
> 
> that-s not the case..? and i tyred of again send again the proff of the 
> issues.. already existing..
> 
> 

I have just tested to run two successive SELECT requests with the ODBC 
driver, and apparently it works perfectly.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From mckaygerhard at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 20:22:49 2021
From: mckaygerhard at gmail.com (PICCORO McKAY Lenz)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 14:22:49 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error ODBC
In-Reply-To: <f1b6ff08-b474-4ff8-f3e7-520ec25999ec@gmail.com>
References: <ff70215c-a4c7-9009-cb5a-40d17b2239a3@gambas-buch.de>
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El jue, 15 de jul. de 2021 a la(s) 12:18, Beno?t Minisini (g4mba5 at gmail.com)
escribi?:

>
> I have just tested to run two successive SELECT requests with the ODBC
> driver, and apparently it works perfectly.
>

good work.. thanks.. please you can paste here in the mail threath the
comit that fix .. to property patched the current stable versions?

also.. there-s other issues with enconding.. it seems solved in 3.16.1 but
i not tested yet cos i am busy in zabbix and adaptation of the apps at job,
seems that when i retrieve german or cirilic strings its not printed in
console! HAns can confirm that in the picture i send to him


>
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>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 10:30:58 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 09:30:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gtk3 textarea bug ()
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBN4bVwc+QL9HhP=kadUjhhcp-fJVvf=Xnc50G9_gW8Zg@mail.gmail.com>

Can anyone test if this bug exists on their systems..
I've attached a simple test app.
and if you find the bug please state system type (os / desktop) so we can
maybe find a link.

it reads a bash script in the project root folder and loads it into a
textarea.

on all my systems except OpenSuse i cannot scroll to the bottom line.

the last line should read...

*read -p "Ctrl-C to exit: "*


i've found its fine on qt and gtk2 but gtk3 is not scrolling all the way
down for me.

I reported the bug but Ben says it works perfectly on his system.

I can't be the only one.


Cheers all.

BruceS
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 12:05:31 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:05:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gtk3 textarea bug ()
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBN4bVwc+QL9HhP=kadUjhhcp-fJVvf=Xnc50G9_gW8Zg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBN4bVwc+QL9HhP=kadUjhhcp-fJVvf=Xnc50G9_gW8Zg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b058e661-49ea-15b6-b6f9-b4d32026c1e6@gmail.com>

Le 16/07/2021 ? 10:30, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> Can anyone test if this bug exists on their systems..
> I've attached a simple test app.
> and if you find the bug please state system type (os / desktop) so we 
> can maybe find a link.
> 
> it reads a bash script in the project root folder and loads it into a 
> textarea.
> 
> on all my systems except OpenSuse i cannot scroll to the bottom line.
> 
> the last line should read...
> 
> *read -p "Ctrl-C to exit: "*
> 
> 
> i've found its fine on qt and gtk2 but gtk3 is not scrolling all the way 
> down for me.
> 
> I reported the bug but Ben says it works perfectly on his system.
> 
> I can't be the only one.
> 
> 
> Cheers all.
> 
> BruceS
> 
> 

I will look at it when I'll be back tuesday.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 15:41:55 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 14:41:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gtk3 textarea bug ()
In-Reply-To: <b058e661-49ea-15b6-b6f9-b4d32026c1e6@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBN4bVwc+QL9HhP=kadUjhhcp-fJVvf=Xnc50G9_gW8Zg@mail.gmail.com>
 <b058e661-49ea-15b6-b6f9-b4d32026c1e6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCB5VkiozuhK2FVN19+p=Lz+qaBmYruDF_=O9Qn4vJ8UWQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 at 11:06, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 16/07/2021 ? 10:30, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > Can anyone test if this bug exists on their systems..
> > I've attached a simple test app.
> > and if you find the bug please state system type (os / desktop) so we
> > can maybe find a link.
> >
> > it reads a bash script in the project root folder and loads it into a
> > textarea.
> >
> > on all my systems except OpenSuse i cannot scroll to the bottom line.
> >
> > the last line should read...
> >
> > *read -p "Ctrl-C to exit: "*
> >
> >
> > i've found its fine on qt and gtk2 but gtk3 is not scrolling all the way
> > down for me.
> >
> > I reported the bug but Ben says it works perfectly on his system.
> >
> > I can't be the only one.
> >
> >
> > Cheers all.
> >
> > BruceS
> >
> >
>
> I will look at it when I'll be back tuesday.
>

Thanks Ben.
Bon voyage
BruceS
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Jul 17 00:27:48 2021
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 15:27:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Connecting to a running app with gambas debugger
Message-ID: <424113476.8584.1626474468328.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Does anyone have a procedure for using the gb.debug to connect to and debug a running app? maybe with the ide. 

i can figure out how to use gbr3 -g ... and send cmds and manage an app from the stdio but I need to connect to and app when it is in the middle 
of lets say $ echo "asdsdaasdasdssda" | cat | MyGambasApp | less 

I want to connect to the MyGambas app and debug it. 

Examples or maybe where to get more information. 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 17 01:14:36 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 08:44:36 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Connecting to a running app with gambas debugger
In-Reply-To: <424113476.8584.1626474468328.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <424113476.8584.1626474468328.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
Message-ID: <09720f60acb489c7e0baa246de6ab5422ecf5839.camel@gmail.com>

On Fri, 2021-07-16 at 15:27 -0700, Brian G wrote:
> $ echo "asdsdaasdasdssda" | cat | 'gbr3 -g MyGambasApp' | less

? untried

b


From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Jul 17 08:13:05 2021
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (=?UTF-8?B?QnJpYW4gRw==?=)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 09:13:05 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] 
 =?utf-8?q?Connecting_to_a_running_app_with_gambas_?=
 =?utf-8?q?debugger?=
In-Reply-To: <09720f60acb489c7e0baa246de6ab5422ecf5839.camel@gmail.com>
References: <424113476.8584.1626474468328.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
 <09720f60acb489c7e0baa246de6ab5422ecf5839.camel@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1626502385.83840786@f21.my.com>


Sorry was just an example I wanted to debug an app in the middle that was a gambas app.
Where the stein and out were in use
--
Thanks
Brian G Friday, 16 July 2021, 04:15PM -07:00 from bb  adamnt42 at gmail.com :

>On Fri, 2021-07-16 at 15:27 -0700, Brian G wrote:
> $ echo "asdsdaasdasdssda" | cat | 'gbr3 -g MyGambasApp' | less
>
>? untried
>
>b
>
>
>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de  Sat Jul 17 09:50:08 2021
From: hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de (Hartmut Wagener)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 09:50:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the editor after update to 3.16.1
In-Reply-To: <df6da9d7-0542-17a7-edde-86a81698ce67@gmail.com>
References: <3d382d1e-7005-e317-eacb-d7d6a521fd21@t-online.de>
 <f0f41114-de23-a72f-667a-e87fd7773174@t-online.de>
 <d2925406-9ac6-0c3f-4473-5cde3cdeafae@gmail.com>
 <1c5501c0-8534-359c-42e8-af59a3658dc2@t-online.de>
 <df6da9d7-0542-17a7-edde-86a81698ce67@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c690bc5c-7271-ae60-cbec-6ba48cc71ee5@t-online.de>

After the update to the newest version 3.16.2 the problem with the 
editor happens again...

I can choose what font i want, installed the Gambas-font, but the cursor 
always runs away from the entry point.

I use Arch linux with a mate-desktop.

I will have a try with restarting, write here if that changes anything.

Nice day

Hartmut


Am 04.07.21 um 17:36 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 04/07/2021 ? 17:18, Hartmut Wagener a ?crit?:
>> I had changed from "Sans regular" to "Serif Regular", and was able to 
>> use the editor.
>>
>> Now i have changed the Fonts back to "Sans regular", and still i am 
>> able to use the editor... :)
>>
>> So, it had to be something else with the fonts, i believe it was 
>> something in an mate-update that did not do everything...
>>
>
> OK, thanks for the answer. I asked that to see if eventually a 
> specific font was in fault, but as you said, it is not the case.
>

From hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de  Sat Jul 17 09:59:25 2021
From: hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de (Hartmut Wagener)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 09:59:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the editor after update to 3.16.1
In-Reply-To: <c690bc5c-7271-ae60-cbec-6ba48cc71ee5@t-online.de>
References: <3d382d1e-7005-e317-eacb-d7d6a521fd21@t-online.de>
 <f0f41114-de23-a72f-667a-e87fd7773174@t-online.de>
 <d2925406-9ac6-0c3f-4473-5cde3cdeafae@gmail.com>
 <1c5501c0-8534-359c-42e8-af59a3658dc2@t-online.de>
 <df6da9d7-0542-17a7-edde-86a81698ce67@gmail.com>
 <c690bc5c-7271-ae60-cbec-6ba48cc71ee5@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <b01b4a5f-fccf-0460-636a-bbf7313adb58@t-online.de>

Have restarted and used much other fonts, with different sizes, no 
change, the cursor runs faster than the entry point.

Any suggestions? Its impossible to write code with this, need to write 
in an external editor and insert it into gambas to be able to write code,

Will try a arch linux update now, perhaps that helps...

Thanks a lot

Am 17.07.21 um 09:50 schrieb Hartmut Wagener:
> After the update to the newest version 3.16.2 the problem with the 
> editor happens again...
>
> I can choose what font i want, installed the Gambas-font, but the 
> cursor always runs away from the entry point.
>
> I use Arch linux with a mate-desktop.
>
> I will have a try with restarting, write here if that changes anything.
>
> Nice day
>
> Hartmut
>
>
> Am 04.07.21 um 17:36 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> Le 04/07/2021 ? 17:18, Hartmut Wagener a ?crit?:
>>> I had changed from "Sans regular" to "Serif Regular", and was able 
>>> to use the editor.
>>>
>>> Now i have changed the Fonts back to "Sans regular", and still i am 
>>> able to use the editor... :)
>>>
>>> So, it had to be something else with the fonts, i believe it was 
>>> something in an mate-update that did not do everything...
>>>
>>
>> OK, thanks for the answer. I asked that to see if eventually a 
>> specific font was in fault, but as you said, it is not the case.
>>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Jul 17 15:50:19 2021
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 06:50:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Connecting to a running app with gambas debugger
In-Reply-To: <1626502385.83840786@f21.my.com>
References: <424113476.8584.1626474468328.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
 <09720f60acb489c7e0baa246de6ab5422ecf5839.camel@gmail.com>
 <1626502385.83840786@f21.my.com>
Message-ID: <835128627.8650.1626529819719.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Sorry was just an example I wanted to debug an app in the middle that was a gambas app. 
Where the STDIN and STDOUT are already in use. 

autocorrect..... 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 

----- On Jul 16, 2021, at 11:13 PM, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote: 

> Sorry was just an example I wanted to debug an app in the middle that was a
> gambas app.
> Where the stein and out were in use

> --
> Thanks
> Brian G
> Friday, 16 July 2021, 04:15PM -07:00 from bb [ mailto:adamnt42 at gmail.com |
> adamnt42 at gmail.com ] :

>> On Fri, 2021-07-16 at 15:27 -0700, Brian G wrote:
>> > $ echo "asdsdaasdasdssda" | cat | 'gbr3 -g MyGambasApp' | less

>> ? untried

>> b

>> ----[ [ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette |
>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ] ]----
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 17 16:13:10 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 23:43:10 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Connecting to a running app with gambas debugger
In-Reply-To: <835128627.8650.1626529819719.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <424113476.8584.1626474468328.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
 <09720f60acb489c7e0baa246de6ab5422ecf5839.camel@gmail.com>
 <1626502385.83840786@f21.my.com>
 <835128627.8650.1626529819719.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
Message-ID: <0bbd59ead5b160b37febc69658d710659af8f763.camel@gmail.com>

On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 06:50 -0700, Brian G wrote:
> Sorry was just an example I wanted to debug an app in the middle that
> was a gambas app.
> Where the STDIN and STDOUT  are already in use.
> 
> autocorrect.....
> 
> "Failure is the key to success; 
>  each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
> 
> ----- On Jul 16, 2021, at 11:13 PM, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com>
> wrote:
> > Sorry was just an example I wanted to debug an app in the middle
> > that was a gambas app.
> > Where the stein and out were in use
> > 
> > --
> > Thanks
> > Brian G
> > 

???
If you are using a pipe instead of stdin, then I would think this is
impossible.

b


From hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de  Sat Jul 17 16:26:38 2021
From: hartmut.w.wagener at t-online.de (Hartmut Wagener)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 16:26:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the editor after update to 3.16.1
In-Reply-To: <b01b4a5f-fccf-0460-636a-bbf7313adb58@t-online.de>
References: <3d382d1e-7005-e317-eacb-d7d6a521fd21@t-online.de>
 <f0f41114-de23-a72f-667a-e87fd7773174@t-online.de>
 <d2925406-9ac6-0c3f-4473-5cde3cdeafae@gmail.com>
 <1c5501c0-8534-359c-42e8-af59a3658dc2@t-online.de>
 <df6da9d7-0542-17a7-edde-86a81698ce67@gmail.com>
 <c690bc5c-7271-ae60-cbec-6ba48cc71ee5@t-online.de>
 <b01b4a5f-fccf-0460-636a-bbf7313adb58@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <038ad028-bf13-8162-f29b-1c9fbe21888c@t-online.de>

I have found out that this only happens when i use the Mate-Desktop.


Am 17.07.21 um 09:59 schrieb Hartmut Wagener:
> Have restarted and used much other fonts, with different sizes, no 
> change, the cursor runs faster than the entry point.
>
> Any suggestions? Its impossible to write code with this, need to write 
> in an external editor and insert it into gambas to be able to write code,
>
> Will try a arch linux update now, perhaps that helps...
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Am 17.07.21 um 09:50 schrieb Hartmut Wagener:
>> After the update to the newest version 3.16.2 the problem with the 
>> editor happens again...
>>
>> I can choose what font i want, installed the Gambas-font, but the 
>> cursor always runs away from the entry point.
>>
>> I use Arch linux with a mate-desktop.
>>
>> I will have a try with restarting, write here if that changes anything.
>>
>> Nice day
>>
>> Hartmut
>>
>>
>> Am 04.07.21 um 17:36 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>>> Le 04/07/2021 ? 17:18, Hartmut Wagener a ?crit?:
>>>> I had changed from "Sans regular" to "Serif Regular", and was able 
>>>> to use the editor.
>>>>
>>>> Now i have changed the Fonts back to "Sans regular", and still i am 
>>>> able to use the editor... :)
>>>>
>>>> So, it had to be something else with the fonts, i believe it was 
>>>> something in an mate-update that did not do everything...
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK, thanks for the answer. I asked that to see if eventually a 
>>> specific font was in fault, but as you said, it is not the case.
>>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 11:15:11 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 10:15:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] dropped files , QT lacks the path!?
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBN9Mn5ZP2tutuPq9hUn_=1nTGUkre57GpcXxayYxPxWA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm playing with an application that works on .desktop files.
I've enabled drag-n-drop and with GTK (2 & 3) every file i drop onto the
app sets Drag.Data to the FULL path of the dropped file with a file://
suffix.

am not getting the same behaviour with QT at all though.
some dropped files give just the file name with no path and no file://
suffix?
(especially when using panel icons)

is there some setting/method I'm missing to get the full path with file
drops in QT mode?

Thanks in advance.
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 11:43:00 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 10:43:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] dropped files , QT lacks the path!?
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBN9Mn5ZP2tutuPq9hUn_=1nTGUkre57GpcXxayYxPxWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBN9Mn5ZP2tutuPq9hUn_=1nTGUkre57GpcXxayYxPxWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCA3Y1E3nsiSkho_UbUr1qpod7XxO0AxLigQUZYf7gpS4Q@mail.gmail.com>

here's a video clip of the problem..
https://youtu.be/h8CMT3dZ5Ss

i have set a function to strip the file:// away and if no file path check
/usr/share/applications $HOME/.local/share/appications and $HOME/Desktop as
this is where files have been that have had no path. but it does not seem
accurate enough for me , i'm guessing the location but my not be the right
one.

the clip shows me dropping some icons on the app and the debugger showing
the raw dropped Drag.Data before and after processing.
even with panel icons some show full path some only filename ??  annoyingly
:(
Will this be a QT bug or a gambas one?

Thanks all
BruceS


On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 10:15, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm playing with an application that works on .desktop files.
> I've enabled drag-n-drop and with GTK (2 & 3) every file i drop onto the
> app sets Drag.Data to the FULL path of the dropped file with a file://
> suffix.
>
> am not getting the same behaviour with QT at all though.
> some dropped files give just the file name with no path and no file://
> suffix?
> (especially when using panel icons)
>
> is there some setting/method I'm missing to get the full path with file
> drops in QT mode?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> BruceS
>
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From hasanmerkit at outlook.com  Sun Jul 18 15:38:35 2021
From: hasanmerkit at outlook.com (Hasan Merkit)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 16:38:35 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Please check this: Wrong colors with GTK3
Message-ID: <AM0PR06MB409887737E7204D2FAE8E017A5E09@AM0PR06MB4098.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Wrong picture colors with GTK3+ component!

More information here, please check this screenshots:

https://www.silicone-forum.com/konu/bug-report-gambas3-gtk.9220/


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 16:49:27 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 00:19:27 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] No-op command
Message-ID: <e51e904570c98ca5e6ac3455ff220f565059ffef.camel@gmail.com>

I need a Gambas command that does nothing, like a NOP, where I can set
a breakpoint for debugging, any good ideas?

tia
bruce


From karl.reinl at fen-net.de  Sun Jul 18 17:51:36 2021
From: karl.reinl at fen-net.de (Karl Reinl)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 17:51:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] No-op command
In-Reply-To: <e51e904570c98ca5e6ac3455ff220f565059ffef.camel@gmail.com>
References: <e51e904570c98ca5e6ac3455ff220f565059ffef.camel@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <385db966c717fabcc50c9a9225ae5d46e047a33b.camel@fen-net.de>

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Am Montag, den 19.07.2021, 00:19 +0930 schrieb bb:
> I need a Gambas command that does nothing, like a NOP, where I can
> set
> a breakpoint for debugging, any good ideas?
> 
> tia
> bruce
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Salut,

Debug "stop" or Print "stop"


- -- 
Amicalement
Charlie
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From tobs at taboege.de  Sun Jul 18 19:00:03 2021
From: tobs at taboege.de (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 19:00:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] No-op command
In-Reply-To: <385db966c717fabcc50c9a9225ae5d46e047a33b.camel@fen-net.de>
References: <e51e904570c98ca5e6ac3455ff220f565059ffef.camel@gmail.com>
 <385db966c717fabcc50c9a9225ae5d46e047a33b.camel@fen-net.de>
Message-ID: <20210718170003.GA455088@highrise.localdomain>

On Sun, 18 Jul 2021, Karl Reinl wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> Am Montag, den 19.07.2021, 00:19 +0930 schrieb bb:
> > I need a Gambas command that does nothing, like a NOP, where I can
> > set
> > a breakpoint for debugging, any good ideas?
> > 
> > tia
> > bruce
> > 
> > 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> Salut,
> 
> Debug "stop" or Print "stop"
> 

In fact, there is a STOP keyword, which acts like a breakpoint.
But this is *always* a breakpoint when encountered in debug mode,
not something you can turn on or off dynamically.

Otherwise, I'd use a constant statement like

  Pi

It's short, quick, strange and reasonably easy to find for you
(but not easy to interpret for your coworkers, I guess). Unlike
Debug and Print, it does not pollute the output of your program.

Best,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 19:28:05 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 02:58:05 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] No-op command
In-Reply-To: <20210718170003.GA455088@highrise.localdomain>
References: <e51e904570c98ca5e6ac3455ff220f565059ffef.camel@gmail.com>
 <385db966c717fabcc50c9a9225ae5d46e047a33b.camel@fen-net.de>
 <20210718170003.GA455088@highrise.localdomain>
Message-ID: <2813dce7f2e0560b2625225ebeb37670d077d1d7.camel@gmail.com>

On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 19:00 +0200, Tobias Boege via User wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2021, Karl Reinl wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA512
> > 
> > Am Montag, den 19.07.2021, 00:19 +0930 schrieb bb:
> > > I need a Gambas command that does nothing, like a NOP, where I
> > > can
> > > set
> > > a breakpoint for debugging, any good ideas?
> > > 
> > > tia
> > > bruce
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> > 
> > Salut,
> > 
> > Debug "stop" or Print "stop"
> > 
> 
> In fact, there is a STOP keyword, which acts like a breakpoint.
> But this is *always* a breakpoint when encountered in debug mode,
> not something you can turn on or off dynamically.
> 
> Otherwise, I'd use a constant statement like
> 
>   Pi
> 
> It's short, quick, strange and reasonably easy to find for you
> (but not easy to interpret for your coworkers, I guess). Unlike
> Debug and Print, it does not pollute the output of your program.
> 
> Best,
> Tobias
> 
Thanks guys,
Both good ideas. I must remember them.

For the specific case I have, I first tried Karl's idea with 'Debug
"<this_method> has already been executed." and I got 800+ lines in
stdout. Which is not a bad thing as I suspected an out of control loop
was happening and now I know it is.
Just "why" it is happening in an empty "else" block is interesting to
say the least, but probably due to some very old code somewhere not
near where I am looking.  

b 


From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Sun Jul 18 19:25:48 2021
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_J=2E_Rodr=EDguez?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 13:25:48 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] No-op command
In-Reply-To: <20210718170003.GA455088@highrise.localdomain>
References: <e51e904570c98ca5e6ac3455ff220f565059ffef.camel@gmail.com>
 <385db966c717fabcc50c9a9225ae5d46e047a33b.camel@fen-net.de>
 <20210718170003.GA455088@highrise.localdomain>
Message-ID: <6589764A-EEFA-4988-8321-5E3656BD50DD@cenpalab.cu>



On 18 July 2021 13:00:03 GMT-04:00, Tobias Boege via User <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> wrote:
>On Sun, 18 Jul 2021, Karl Reinl wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA512
>> 
>> Am Montag, den 19.07.2021, 00:19 +0930 schrieb bb:
>> > I need a Gambas command that does nothing, like a NOP, where I can
>> > set
>> > a breakpoint for debugging, any good ideas?
>> > 
>> > tia
>> > bruce
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>> 
>> Salut,
>> 
>> Debug "stop" or Print "stop"
>> 
>
>In fact, there is a STOP keyword, which acts like a breakpoint.
>But this is *always* a breakpoint when encountered in debug mode,
>not something you can turn on or off dynamically.
>

I tend to use a global "flag" together with if statements in the code, for debug output where needed. This could work for stop? 

>Otherwise, I'd use a constant statement like
>
>  Pi
>
>It's short, quick, strange and reasonably easy to find for you
>(but not easy to interpret for your coworkers, I guess). Unlike
>Debug and Print, it does not pollute the output of your program.
>
>Best,
>Tobias

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 19:40:35 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 03:10:35 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] No-op command
In-Reply-To: <2813dce7f2e0560b2625225ebeb37670d077d1d7.camel@gmail.com>
References: <e51e904570c98ca5e6ac3455ff220f565059ffef.camel@gmail.com>
 <385db966c717fabcc50c9a9225ae5d46e047a33b.camel@fen-net.de>
 <20210718170003.GA455088@highrise.localdomain>
 <2813dce7f2e0560b2625225ebeb37670d077d1d7.camel@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <beba63b464e6ff720988681ea430c96a2896f423.camel@gmail.com>

On Mon, 2021-07-19 at 02:58 +0930, bb wrote:
> On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 19:00 +0200, Tobias Boege via User wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Jul 2021, Karl Reinl wrote:
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA512
> > > 
> > > Am Montag, den 19.07.2021, 00:19 +0930 schrieb bb:
> > > > I need a Gambas command that does nothing, like a NOP, where I
> > > > can
> > > > set
> > > > a breakpoint for debugging, any good ideas?
> > > > 
> > > > tia
> > > > bruce
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> > > 
> > > Salut,
> > > 
> > > Debug "stop" or Print "stop"
> > > 
> > 
> > In fact, there is a STOP keyword, which acts like a breakpoint.
> > But this is *always* a breakpoint when encountered in debug mode,
> > not something you can turn on or off dynamically.
> > 
> > Otherwise, I'd use a constant statement like
> > 
> >   Pi
> > 
> > It's short, quick, strange and reasonably easy to find for you
> > (but not easy to interpret for your coworkers, I guess). Unlike
> > Debug and Print, it does not pollute the output of your program.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Tobias
> > 
> Thanks guys,
> Both good ideas. I must remember them.
> 
> For the specific case I have, I first tried Karl's idea with 'Debug
> "<this_method> has already been executed." and I got 800+ lines in
> stdout. Which is not a bad thing as I suspected an out of control
> loop
> was happening and now I know it is.
> Just "why" it is happening in an empty "else" block is interesting to
> say the least, but probably due to some very old code somewhere not
> near where I am looking.  
> 
> b 
Bingo! Found it. The old "change the value of the loop control variable
many dozens of lines away from where I am looking trick". (In my
defense I will say that the loop is based on a very complex compound
control value.)

Thanks again.
b


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 22:55:09 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:55:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] .desktop launcher editor with Actions editor (but 2
 issues)
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDNYFiD2o5SkRLrNpREC3tAizSxZnU=kYRVttm-Uiufpw@mail.gmail.com>

Right my latest handy app (love the word bruce, love it!! :D )

it edits .desktop launcher files but unlike the other editors this one also
edits Actions
(like how gambas can launch with gtk or qt by right clicking a panel icon)
it's WIP but working enough now to share.

Forum post...
https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1159
direct download
https://forum.gambas.one/download/file.php?id=849

Here's how my gambas launcher looks in the Actions editor..
https://forum.gambas.one/download/file.php?id=848

I have 2 problems though...
one is drag and dropping files onto it when it's using QT. (mentioned in
another post)
dropping some panel icons onto it only gave a file name with no path.

GTK does not do that and always gives the full path so the app (lication,
sorry Mr b ;) ) is set to use gb.gtk3 (change it to use gb.gui or gb.gui.qt
for qt only systems)


another issue (not gambas related i know) is that after i've saved back a
.desktop file the panel icons do not show the change till net boot up :(
i've tried deleting the file and re-saving it, plus other methods but
cannot get an instant change :(
even xdg-desktop-menu forceupdate didn't work


And advice appreciated.

have a free desktop launcher editor :)
any bugs , fix them yourself  ;)
lol , no sorry, please let me know :)

BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 23:13:44 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 22:13:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] .desktop launcher editor with Actions editor (but
 2 issues)
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDNYFiD2o5SkRLrNpREC3tAizSxZnU=kYRVttm-Uiufpw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCDNYFiD2o5SkRLrNpREC3tAizSxZnU=kYRVttm-Uiufpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAjDkguYCTGL2MS6TbQ-GMMsau6-Y9dfF3ZXCP_WcFqMw@mail.gmail.com>

inline...

On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 21:55, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Right my latest handy app (love the word bruce, love it!! :D )
>
> another issue (not gambas related i know) is that after i've saved back a
> .desktop file the panel icons do not show the change till net boot up :(
> i've tried deleting the file and re-saving it, plus other methods but
> cannot get an instant change :(
> even xdg-desktop-menu forceupdate didn't work
>

"Till NEXT boot up" not "net boot up" sorry

Also my simple workaround for this is my panel icons are also on my desktop.
I edit the launchers on my desktop then remove the old ones from the panel
and drag n drop the edited ones in again.
All the best
BruceS
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From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Mon Jul 19 00:06:03 2021
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 22:06:03 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
Message-ID: <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>

This works in cli:

pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY /home/joe1962/0-develop/MyDev/vcpufreq/trunk/vcpufreq-gui/vcpufreq-gui.gambas

However, none of the following attempts have worked in Gambas code:

Exec ["pkexec", "env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY " & Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] Wait

Exec ["pkexec", Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] With ["DISPLAY=$DISPLAY", "XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY"] Wait

This is for some old code I had and am updating to current Gambas. The problem actually came about because the code tested for kdesu, ktsuss, gksu and would relaunch itself as root, then quit. However, on Linux Mint you're supposed to use pkexec now...

The error is the typical one when trying to run a gui program in a root console:

qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display 
qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even though it was found.
This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.

Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, vnc, wayland-egl, wayland, wayland-xcomposite-egl, wayland-xcomposite-glx, xcb.


Appreciate any ideas.

Regards,
Joe1962


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 00:29:14 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 23:29:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
In-Reply-To: <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
References: <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCp=Vb9setGQ2USsEP7z_TSCp_OOm8xhzRtwAmPo-0BSg@mail.gmail.com>

Just an initial thought as it's working in the cli so I assume all
configured okay.

I sometimes making sure bash is the shell an not the default sh can help
fix some glitches.

System.Shell = System.Find("bash")

Also I wrote a simple gambas called groot that I've found works where
pkexec does not. It simply creates a hidden window with a terminalview and
launches the application via sudo.
It's on the gambas application repository
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/app/groot
Might give you some alternative ideas at least?

BruceS

On Sun, 18 Jul 2021, 23:08 , <jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu> wrote:

> This works in cli:
>
> pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY
> /home/joe1962/0-develop/MyDev/vcpufreq/trunk/vcpufreq-gui/vcpufreq-gui.gambas
>
> However, none of the following attempts have worked in Gambas code:
>
> Exec ["pkexec", "env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY " &
> Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] Wait
>
> Exec ["pkexec", Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] With
> ["DISPLAY=$DISPLAY", "XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY"] Wait
>
> This is for some old code I had and am updating to current Gambas. The
> problem actually came about because the code tested for kdesu, ktsuss, gksu
> and would relaunch itself as root, then quit. However, on Linux Mint you're
> supposed to use pkexec now...
>
> The error is the typical one when trying to run a gui program in a root
> console:
>
> qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display
> qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even
> though it was found.
> This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be
> initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.
>
> Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl,
> offscreen, vnc, wayland-egl, wayland, wayland-xcomposite-egl,
> wayland-xcomposite-glx, xcb.
>
>
> Appreciate any ideas.
>
> Regards,
> Joe1962
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 01:05:20 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 00:05:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
In-Reply-To: <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
References: <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAcPfk3KPRU9qBc_0K3LuMayBKeYZOvVVLe4pyhTprN0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Also check out this other application I made...
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/pkAppMan

It edits the pkexec policies.
I assume you know you need to add gbr3 (and possibly another launcher
binary) to pkexec policy list so gambas applications work. I assume because
it works in cli

Best of luck.
BruceS

On Sun, 18 Jul 2021, 23:08 , <jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu> wrote:

> This works in cli:
>
> pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY
> /home/joe1962/0-develop/MyDev/vcpufreq/trunk/vcpufreq-gui/vcpufreq-gui.gambas
>
> However, none of the following attempts have worked in Gambas code:
>
> Exec ["pkexec", "env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY " &
> Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] Wait
>
> Exec ["pkexec", Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] With
> ["DISPLAY=$DISPLAY", "XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY"] Wait
>
> This is for some old code I had and am updating to current Gambas. The
> problem actually came about because the code tested for kdesu, ktsuss, gksu
> and would relaunch itself as root, then quit. However, on Linux Mint you're
> supposed to use pkexec now...
>
> The error is the typical one when trying to run a gui program in a root
> console:
>
> qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display
> qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even
> though it was found.
> This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be
> initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.
>
> Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl,
> offscreen, vnc, wayland-egl, wayland, wayland-xcomposite-egl,
> wayland-xcomposite-glx, xcb.
>
>
> Appreciate any ideas.
>
> Regards,
> Joe1962
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From tobs at taboege.de  Mon Jul 19 01:22:07 2021
From: tobs at taboege.de (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 01:22:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
In-Reply-To: <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
References: <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
Message-ID: <20210718232207.GB455088@highrise.localdomain>

On Sun, 18 Jul 2021, jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu wrote:
> This works in cli:
> 
> pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY /home/joe1962/0-develop/MyDev/vcpufreq/trunk/vcpufreq-gui/vcpufreq-gui.gambas
> 
> However, none of the following attempts have worked in Gambas code:
> 
> Exec ["pkexec", "env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY " & Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] Wait
> 

If you use Exec, you have to split arguments properly by space.
There is no shell to do it for you. I suppose what you want is

  Exec ["pkexec", "env", "DISPLAY=" & Env["DISPLAY]", "XAUTHORITY=" & Env["XAUTHORITY"], Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] Wait

> Exec ["pkexec", Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] With ["DISPLAY=$DISPLAY", "XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY"] Wait
> 

Gambas does not interpret $DISPLAY and $XAUTHORITY. With this
"With" statement, you are putting the literal string values
"$DISPLAY" and "$XAUTHORITY" into these environment variables.
The "$variable" syntax for environment variable expansion is
a shell feature. With Exec, you bypass the shell and renounce
its features.

What you should do from Gambas is to use Env[] as I did above.
But I suppose pkexec clears the environment, which is the reason
why it has an "env" subcommand. If that's the case, then setting
the environment using "With" will not get you anywhere. You should
instead try what I suggest in my first paragraph.

Best,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Mon Jul 19 03:03:01 2021
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 01:03:01 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAcPfk3KPRU9qBc_0K3LuMayBKeYZOvVVLe4pyhTprN0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAcPfk3KPRU9qBc_0K3LuMayBKeYZOvVVLe4pyhTprN0Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
Message-ID: <11441392114f870329b272b174cd4877@cenpalab.cu>

July 18, 2021 7:05 PM, "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com (mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com?to=%22Bruce%20Steers%22%20<bsteers4 at gmail.com>)> wrote:
Also check out this other application I made...https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/pkAppMan (https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/pkAppMan)  It edits the pkexec policies. I assume you know you need to add gbr3 (and possibly another launcher binary) to pkexec policy list so gambas applications work. I assume because it works in cli   
I've read about having to edit the policies, but I didn't need to do that for it to work from the console.

Regards,
Joe1962
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From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Mon Jul 19 03:03:45 2021
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 01:03:45 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCp=Vb9setGQ2USsEP7z_TSCp_OOm8xhzRtwAmPo-0BSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCp=Vb9setGQ2USsEP7z_TSCp_OOm8xhzRtwAmPo-0BSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
Message-ID: <1155b07be0d4731da8c116ac550b3182@cenpalab.cu>

July 18, 2021 6:29 PM, "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com (mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com?to=%22Bruce%20Steers%22%20<bsteers4 at gmail.com>)> wrote:
Just an initial thought as it's working in the cli so I assume all configured okay.

I sometimes making sure bash is the shell an not the default sh can help fix some glitches.  System.Shell = System.Find("bash")  Also I wrote a simple gambas called groot that I've found works where pkexec does not. It simply creates a hidden window with a terminalview and launches the application via sudo. It's on the gambas application repository http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/app/groot (http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/app/groot)  Might give you some alternative ideas at least?   
I saw your original post about that. I will look into it, thanks.

Regards,
Joe1962
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From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Mon Jul 19 03:12:56 2021
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 01:12:56 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
In-Reply-To: <20210718232207.GB455088@highrise.localdomain>
References: <20210718232207.GB455088@highrise.localdomain>
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July 18, 2021 7:22 PM, "Tobias Boege via User" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> Gambas does not interpret $DISPLAY and $XAUTHORITY. With this
> "With" statement, you are putting the literal string values
> "$DISPLAY" and "$XAUTHORITY" into these environment variables.
> The "$variable" syntax for environment variable expansion is
> a shell feature. With Exec, you bypass the shell and renounce
> its features.
> 
> What you should do from Gambas is to use Env[] as I did above.
> But I suppose pkexec clears the environment, which is the reason
> why it has an "env" subcommand. If that's the case, then setting
> the environment using "With" will not get you anywhere. You should
> instead try what I suggest in my first paragraph.

Well, none of these worked:

Exec ["pkexec", Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] With ["DISPLAY=" & Env["DISPLAY"],
"XAUTHORITY=" & Env["XAUTHORITY"]] Wait

'Exec ["pkexec", "env", "DISPLAY=" & Env["DISPLAY"], "XAUTHORITY=" & Env["XAUTHORITY"],
Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] Wait

BTW, the wiki says "The first element in the list/array is the name of the command, and the other elements are the commands parameters (if any)", so I wouldn't expect the second variant to work.

Maybe I should try Shell?

Regards,
Joe1962


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 04:26:54 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 03:26:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
In-Reply-To: <11441392114f870329b272b174cd4877@cenpalab.cu>
References: <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
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try adding gbr3 to pkexec policies.

that pkAppMan will do it for you (it's one of it's presets)

Or if you initially run pkAppMan from a terminal using sudo it will ask to
auto-add gbr3 to pkexec rules (if you want it to)
it does not allow any application to auto get root access you still have to
put in the password but you get the gui requester.

There's one way to find out if it fixes anything  :)

BruceS


On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 02:05, <jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu> wrote:

> July 18, 2021 7:05 PM, "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com
> <bsteers4 at gmail.com?to=%22Bruce%20Steers%22%20%3Cbsteers4 at gmail.com%3E>>
> wrote:
>
> Also check out this other application I made...
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/pkAppMan
> It edits the pkexec policies.
> I assume you know you need to add gbr3 (and possibly another launcher
> binary) to pkexec policy list so gambas applications work. I assume because
> it works in cli
>
>
> I've read about having to edit the policies, but I didn't need to do that
> for it to work from the console.
>
> Regards,
> Joe1962
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Jul 19 08:49:53 2021
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 08:49:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the editor after update to 3.16.1
In-Reply-To: <038ad028-bf13-8162-f29b-1c9fbe21888c@t-online.de>
References: <3d382d1e-7005-e317-eacb-d7d6a521fd21@t-online.de>
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Am 17.07.21 um 16:26 schrieb Hartmut Wagener:
> I have found out that this only happens when i use the Mate-Desktop.
> 

I use Mate under Ubuntu Mate. Strange things have happened along the 
way. I have not used the new Editor yet, but there were other glitches.

What I found was that the choice of the right library in Gambas can 
help. Try using something like gb.qt5 and gb.qt5.ext instead of gb.gui. 
There are several possible combinations, try them and find out what happens.

Regards
Rolf


> 
> Am 17.07.21 um 09:59 schrieb Hartmut Wagener:
>> Have restarted and used much other fonts, with different sizes, no 
>> change, the cursor runs faster than the entry point.
>>
>> Any suggestions? Its impossible to write code with this, need to write 
>> in an external editor and insert it into gambas to be able to write code,
>>
>> Will try a arch linux update now, perhaps that helps...
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>>
>> Am 17.07.21 um 09:50 schrieb Hartmut Wagener:
>>> After the update to the newest version 3.16.2 the problem with the 
>>> editor happens again...
>>>
>>> I can choose what font i want, installed the Gambas-font, but the 
>>> cursor always runs away from the entry point.
>>>
>>> I use Arch linux with a mate-desktop.
>>>
>>> I will have a try with restarting, write here if that changes anything.
>>>
>>> Nice day
>>>
>>> Hartmut
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 04.07.21 um 17:36 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>>>> Le 04/07/2021 ? 17:18, Hartmut Wagener a ?crit?:
>>>>> I had changed from "Sans regular" to "Serif Regular", and was able 
>>>>> to use the editor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now i have changed the Fonts back to "Sans regular", and still i am 
>>>>> able to use the editor... :)
>>>>>
>>>>> So, it had to be something else with the fonts, i believe it was 
>>>>> something in an mate-update that did not do everything...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, thanks for the answer. I asked that to see if eventually a 
>>>> specific font was in fault, but as you said, it is not the case.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 


From dosida at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 12:56:37 2021
From: dosida at gmail.com (Dimitris Anogiatis)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 04:56:37 -0600
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
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This actually worked out for me (i'm on Debian 10.10 with MATE Desktop):

Exec ["pkexec", "env", "DISPLAY=" & Env["DISPLAY"], "XAUTHORITY=" &
Env["XAUTHORITY"], Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] Wait

Yes It's an older version of Gambas (3.12) but it showed me that the plugin
it used was qt5ct.

Checking your initial error message it looks like xcb is complaining. Is
xcb installed in your Mint installation?


On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 8:28 PM Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> try adding gbr3 to pkexec policies.
>
> that pkAppMan will do it for you (it's one of it's presets)
>
> Or if you initially run pkAppMan from a terminal using sudo it will ask to
> auto-add gbr3 to pkexec rules (if you want it to)
> it does not allow any application to auto get root access you still have
> to put in the password but you get the gui requester.
>
> There's one way to find out if it fixes anything  :)
>
> BruceS
>
>
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 02:05, <jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu> wrote:
>
>> July 18, 2021 7:05 PM, "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com
>> <bsteers4 at gmail.com?to=%22Bruce%20Steers%22%20%3Cbsteers4 at gmail.com%3E>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Also check out this other application I made...
>> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/pkAppMan
>> It edits the pkexec policies.
>> I assume you know you need to add gbr3 (and possibly another launcher
>> binary) to pkexec policy list so gambas applications work. I assume because
>> it works in cli
>>
>>
>> I've read about having to edit the policies, but I didn't need to do that
>> for it to work from the console.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Joe1962
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From tercoide at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 19 19:09:51 2021
From: tercoide at hotmail.com (martin cristia)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:09:51 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] glClearColor error
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1625822461.12221.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
References: <mailman.1.1625822461.12221.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <CH2PR12MB3943C5E470B6F39E5646CDA3C8E19@CH2PR12MB3943.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

That was the problem. After a

sudo apt remove --purge gambas3

followed by a reinstall from PPA there was no more error for both GTK 
and Qt, which leads me to believe that purging files before updating new 
Gb versions should be SOP

tnx

> Le 08/07/2021 ? 21:10, martin cristia a ?crit?:
>> Hi, I'm having this error, with a GLArea in a form:
>>
>> opengl-clearcolor: symbol lookup error:
>> /usr/lib/gambas3/gb.gtk3.opengl.so: undefined symbol: glClearColor
>>
>> project attatched,
>>
>>
> No problem here (Ubuntu 21.04). 'glClearColor' is a standard OpenGL
> function, so I guess there is something wrong in your Gambas compilation.
>

From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Mon Jul 19 23:27:17 2021
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 21:27:17 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
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July 19, 2021 6:56 AM, "Dimitris Anogiatis" <dosida at gmail.com (mailto:dosida at gmail.com?to=%22Dimitris%20Anogiatis%22%20<dosida at gmail.com>)> wrote:
This actually worked out for me (i'm on Debian 10.10 with MATE Desktop):

Exec ["pkexec", "env", "DISPLAY=" & Env["DISPLAY"], "XAUTHORITY=" & Env["XAUTHORITY"], Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] Wait

Yes It's an older version of Gambas (3.12) but it showed me that the plugin it used was qt5ct.

Checking your initial error message it looks like xcb is complaining. Is xcb installed in your Mint installation?
Hmm, might have to set up a VM to try it on Mate.

The xcb stuff is typical when trying to run qt software as root without setting the display env. For example, executing this directly in a console gives the (mostly) same error as when running from gambas code: 
<< EXAMPLE 1:
joe1962 at homestation:~/.../vcpufreq-gui$ pkexec /home/joe1962/0-develop/MyDev/vcpufreq/trunk/vcpufreq-gui/vcpufreq-gui.gambas
qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display
qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even though it was found.
This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.

Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, vnc, wayland-egl, wayland, wayland-xcomposite-egl, wayland-xcomposite-glx, xcb.

Aborted (core dumped)
:END EXAMPLE 1>>
<< EXAMPLE 2:
root at homestation:/.../vcpufreq-gui# pkexec falkon
qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display
qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even though it was found.
Fatal: This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.

Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, vnc, wayland-egl, wayland, wayland-xcomposite-egl, wayland-xcomposite-glx, xcb.

Aborted (core dumped)
:END EXAMPLE 2>>
but when run with the env stuff, it works. However, that doesn't work for me from Gambas, I figure pkexec isn't getting the env stuff properly.

Regards,
Joe1962
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From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Mon Jul 19 23:38:24 2021
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 21:38:24 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
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July 19, 2021 6:56 AM, "Dimitris Anogiatis" <dosida at gmail.com (mailto:dosida at gmail.com?to=%22Dimitris%20Anogiatis%22%20<dosida at gmail.com>)> wrote:
This actually worked out for me (i'm on Debian 10.10 with MATE Desktop):

Exec ["pkexec", "env", "DISPLAY=" & Env["DISPLAY"], "XAUTHORITY=" & Env["XAUTHORITY"], Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] Wait

Yes It's an older version of Gambas (3.12) but it showed me that the plugin it used was qt5ct.
Ooops, my bad, there was a certain degree of PEBKAC involved. I placed that option on the wrong If statement. In my defense, I was seeing cross-eyed by that point, LOL. Now confirmed it works on Mint 20.1 Cinnamon.

However, shouldn't this one work too?: 

	Exec ["pkexec", Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] With ["DISPLAY=" & Env["DISPLAY"], "XAUTHORITY=" & Env["XAUTHORITY"]] Wait

Regards,
Joe1962
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From tobs at taboege.de  Tue Jul 20 08:32:58 2021
From: tobs at taboege.de (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 08:32:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2021, jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu wrote:
> July 19, 2021 6:56 AM, "Dimitris Anogiatis" <dosida at gmail.com (mailto:dosida at gmail.com?to=%22Dimitris%20Anogiatis%22%20<dosida at gmail.com>)> wrote:
> This actually worked out for me (i'm on Debian 10.10 with MATE Desktop):
> 
> Exec ["pkexec", "env", "DISPLAY=" & Env["DISPLAY"], "XAUTHORITY=" & Env["XAUTHORITY"], Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] Wait
> 
> Yes It's an older version of Gambas (3.12) but it showed me that the plugin it used was qt5ct.
> Ooops, my bad, there was a certain degree of PEBKAC involved. I placed that option on the wrong If statement. In my defense, I was seeing cross-eyed by that point, LOL. Now confirmed it works on Mint 20.1 Cinnamon.
> 
> However, shouldn't this one work too?: 
> 
> 	Exec ["pkexec", Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] With ["DISPLAY=" & Env["DISPLAY"], "XAUTHORITY=" & Env["XAUTHORITY"]] Wait
> 

No, read the manpage of pkexec:

       The environment that PROGRAM will run it, will be set to a minimal
       known and safe environment in order to avoid injecting code through
       LD_LIBRARY_PATH or similar mechanisms. In addition the PKEXEC_UID
       environment variable is set to the user id of the process invoking
       pkexec. As a result, pkexec will not by default allow you to run X11
       applications as another user since the $DISPLAY and $XAUTHORITY
       environment variables are not set. These two variables will be retained
       if the org.freedesktop.policykit.exec.allow_gui annotation on an action
       is set to a nonempty value; this is discouraged, though, and should
       only be used for legacy programs.

The WITH statement sets the environment variables in the Gambas program
before launching pkexec, then pkexec clears these variables immediately
afterwards.

Best,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From cybercamera at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 13:20:25 2021
From: cybercamera at gmail.com (Cam Era)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 21:20:25 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug in QT4 Printer object FirstPage in Gambas 3.16.1
Message-ID: <CAHrmVvPA=cRkMSx92SSaj-q93xe+DLZSkJzDaoM0SpYWepYdMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Can anyone else confirm the following bug in the Printer (gb.qt4) object?

Steps to reproduce:

Public Sub Main()
  Dim my_printer As Printer
  my_printer = New Printer As "MyPrinter"
  my_printer.FirstPage = 1
  my_printer.LastPage = 3

End

Inspecting the my_printer.FirstPage property gives the wrong value of 0
while my_printer.LastPage gives the correct value of 3

It seems that the .FirstPage isn't being retained.

System details follow.
-----------------------------

[System]
Gambas=3.16.1
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.4.0-77-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
Desktop=UBUNTU:GNOME
Font=Ubuntu,11
Scale=8
Theme=yaru
Language=en_AU.UTF-8
Memory=7874M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.6.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.11
GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.16
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1602.0
GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.16
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.73.0.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.97.0.0
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.12.8
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6
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From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Tue Jul 20 16:26:46 2021
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 14:26:46 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
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July 20, 2021 9:07 AM, "Tobias Boege via User" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021, jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu wrote:
>> 
>> However, shouldn't this one work too?:
>> 
>> Exec ["pkexec", Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] With ["DISPLAY=" & Env["DISPLAY"],
>> "XAUTHORITY=" & Env["XAUTHORITY"]] Wait
> 
> No, read the manpage of pkexec:
> 
> The WITH statement sets the environment variables in the Gambas program
> before launching pkexec, then pkexec clears these variables immediately
> afterwards.
> 

Yes, I understand now, and this works because it sets the env inside pkexec:

Exec ["pkexec", "env", "DISPLAY=" & Env["DISPLAY"], "XAUTHORITY=" & Env["XAUTHORITY"], Application.Path &/ "vcpufreq-gui.gambas"] Wait

Regards,
Joe1962


From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 21 16:12:46 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:12:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug in QT4 Printer object FirstPage in Gambas
 3.16.1
In-Reply-To: <CAHrmVvPA=cRkMSx92SSaj-q93xe+DLZSkJzDaoM0SpYWepYdMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrmVvPA=cRkMSx92SSaj-q93xe+DLZSkJzDaoM0SpYWepYdMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8c678cd2-06c5-2f8a-4871-84e0f11b2dc4@gmail.com>

Le 20/07/2021 ? 13:20, Cam Era a ?crit?:
> Can anyone else confirm the following bug in the?Printer (gb.qt4) object?
> 
> Steps to reproduce:
> 
> Public Sub Main()
>  ? Dim my_printer As Printer
>  ? my_printer = New Printer As "MyPrinter"
>  ? my_printer.FirstPage = 1
>  ? my_printer.LastPage = 3
> 
> End
> 
> Inspecting the my_printer.FirstPage property gives the wrong value of 0 
> while my_printer.LastPage gives the correct value of 3
> 
> It seems that the .FirstPage isn't being retained.
> 

Please provide a project that reproduces the bug.

I think you are wrong, and that the bug is in the GTK+ component, not in 
the QT one.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 21 16:27:38 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:27:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the editor after update to 3.16.1
In-Reply-To: <f0f41114-de23-a72f-667a-e87fd7773174@t-online.de>
References: <3d382d1e-7005-e317-eacb-d7d6a521fd21@t-online.de>
 <f0f41114-de23-a72f-667a-e87fd7773174@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <07deeb55-cc90-6d4a-ef24-3cfe7c708dda@gmail.com>

Le 04/07/2021 ? 12:33, Hartmut Wagener a ?crit?:
> I solved the editor-thing, changed the font from "Sans Regular" to 
> "Serif Regular"...
> 
> So i can look for the next problem... :)
> 

Please provide some screenshots.

"Sans regular" is not a true font, it's just an alias to another font.

Which font "Sans regular" is aliased to on your system?

Can you try other fonts?

Why do you use a proportional font for your editor?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 21 16:29:25 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:29:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems with the editor after update to 3.16.1
In-Reply-To: <038ad028-bf13-8162-f29b-1c9fbe21888c@t-online.de>
References: <3d382d1e-7005-e317-eacb-d7d6a521fd21@t-online.de>
 <f0f41114-de23-a72f-667a-e87fd7773174@t-online.de>
 <d2925406-9ac6-0c3f-4473-5cde3cdeafae@gmail.com>
 <1c5501c0-8534-359c-42e8-af59a3658dc2@t-online.de>
 <df6da9d7-0542-17a7-edde-86a81698ce67@gmail.com>
 <c690bc5c-7271-ae60-cbec-6ba48cc71ee5@t-online.de>
 <b01b4a5f-fccf-0460-636a-bbf7313adb58@t-online.de>
 <038ad028-bf13-8162-f29b-1c9fbe21888c@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <1ce29866-7c81-dc8c-ee2e-49537e51caa8@gmail.com>

Le 17/07/2021 ? 16:26, Hartmut Wagener a ?crit?:
> I have found out that this only happens when i use the Mate-Desktop.
> 

Apparently there are a lot of problem with Mate desktop. Almost all the 
bugs currently opened in the bugtracker are from Mate desktop users.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Thu Jul 22 00:19:41 2021
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:19:41 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCp=Vb9setGQ2USsEP7z_TSCp_OOm8xhzRtwAmPo-0BSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCp=Vb9setGQ2USsEP7z_TSCp_OOm8xhzRtwAmPo-0BSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
Message-ID: <61266ecac20c287eda4642e871fd26fd@cenpalab.cu>

July 18, 2021 6:29 PM, "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Also I wrote a simple gambas called groot that I've found works where pkexec does not. It simply
> creates a hidden window with a terminalview and launches the application via sudo.
> It's on the gambas application repository http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/app/groot
> 
> Might give you some alternative ideas at least?
> 


Hi, Bruce Steers (yes, I know there are at least 2 Bruces here, LOL):

Getting not found when I try to download groot. Screenshot attached. Also, when you click on the link it keeps the trailing " so it fails. Obviously, I manually removed it but it still fails.

BTW, that error message begs to be changed to "I am not Groot" :D

Regards,
Joe1962
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 01:05:27 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 00:05:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
In-Reply-To: <61266ecac20c287eda4642e871fd26fd@cenpalab.cu>
References: <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
 <CABuQYCCp=Vb9setGQ2USsEP7z_TSCp_OOm8xhzRtwAmPo-0BSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <61266ecac20c287eda4642e871fd26fd@cenpalab.cu>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAnTfCJ7a6gBHaQDy-e_nTj+HS9Sw0sc4d4hkBFFzBJdg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 23:22, <jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu> wrote:

> July 18, 2021 6:29 PM, "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Also I wrote a simple gambas called groot that I've found works where
> pkexec does not. It simply
> > creates a hidden window with a terminalview and launches the application
> via sudo.
> > It's on the gambas application repository
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/app/groot
> >
> > Might give you some alternative ideas at least?
> >
>
>
> Hi, Bruce Steers (yes, I know there are at least 2 Bruces here, LOL):
>
> Getting not found when I try to download groot. Screenshot attached. Also,
> when you click on the link it keeps the trailing " so it fails. Obviously,
> I manually removed it but it still fails.
>
> BTW, that error message begs to be changed to "I am not Groot" :D
>
> Regards,
> Joe1962
>

Haha , yes I like to name my gambas apps with something beginning with g
and groot was just perfect for this :)

Cheers for the info. seemed the file on my server was called GRoot.zip not
groot.zip :-\
I've updated the archive and uploaded with the correct name now :)

Thanks
BruceS
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From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Fri Jul 23 00:11:20 2021
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 22:11:20 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] EXEC ... WITH
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAnTfCJ7a6gBHaQDy-e_nTj+HS9Sw0sc4d4hkBFFzBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAnTfCJ7a6gBHaQDy-e_nTj+HS9Sw0sc4d4hkBFFzBJdg@mail.gmail.com>
 <add031e46b24b8c2305ee91d98c822f4@cenpalab.cu>
 <CABuQYCCp=Vb9setGQ2USsEP7z_TSCp_OOm8xhzRtwAmPo-0BSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <61266ecac20c287eda4642e871fd26fd@cenpalab.cu>
Message-ID: <88621ecb9c1d1b36c5adefe37d238aa6@cenpalab.cu>

July 21, 2021 7:06 PM, "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 23:22, <jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu> wrote:
> 
>> July 18, 2021 6:29 PM, "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Also I wrote a simple gambas called groot that I've found works where pkexec does not. It simply
>>> creates a hidden window with a terminalview and launches the application via sudo.
>>> It's on the gambas application repository http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/app/groot
>>> 
>>> Might give you some alternative ideas at least?
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi, Bruce Steers (yes, I know there are at least 2 Bruces here, LOL):
>> 
>> Getting not found when I try to download groot. Screenshot attached. Also, when you click on the
>> link it keeps the trailing " so it fails. Obviously, I manually removed it but it still fails.
>> 
>> BTW, that error message begs to be changed to "I am not Groot" :D
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Joe1962
> 
> Haha , yes I like to name my gambas apps with something beginning with g and groot was just perfect
> for this :)
> 
> Cheers for the info. seemed the file on my server was called GRoot.zip not groot.zip :-\
> I've updated the archive and uploaded with the correct name now :)

Well, I've been Ctrl + refreshing http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/app/groot since I got your email, but it's still showing the same old link. I also tried http://bws.org.uk/GRoot.zip directly, but it keeps saying "I am not Groot"...

Regards,
Joe1962


From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 18:13:54 2021
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:13:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Master: Segmentation error
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFZm6JzV8SGtcrfmrgHXdc3rTon42cA1cE8g8yLQiPoisQ@mail.gmail.com>

the latest master version does not start:

:~$ gambas3

(process:169673): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 18:08:02.385: g_object_get:
assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
Errore di segmentazione

Regards
Gianluigi
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From cybercamera at gmail.com  Sat Jul 24 14:39:47 2021
From: cybercamera at gmail.com (Cam Era)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 22:39:47 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug in QT4 Printer object FirstPage in Gambas
 3.16.1
In-Reply-To: <8c678cd2-06c5-2f8a-4871-84e0f11b2dc4@gmail.com>
References: <CAHrmVvPA=cRkMSx92SSaj-q93xe+DLZSkJzDaoM0SpYWepYdMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <8c678cd2-06c5-2f8a-4871-84e0f11b2dc4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHrmVvMSB27tPqS85r6Gmrj+aPqc3HyOUgmY1nsCzn0grLBpRw@mail.gmail.com>

Beno?t,

thanks for the response.

Sample project which shows this issue is attached. As far as I can tell,
I'm performing the right actions to set the .FirstPage on the Printer
object, but I could be wrong. The .LastPage setting is honoured. All is in
QT AFAICT.

Cheers


On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 12:13 AM Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 20/07/2021 ? 13:20, Cam Era a ?crit :
> > Can anyone else confirm the following bug in the Printer (gb.qt4) object?
> >
> > Steps to reproduce:
> >
> > Public Sub Main()
> >    Dim my_printer As Printer
> >    my_printer = New Printer As "MyPrinter"
> >    my_printer.FirstPage = 1
> >    my_printer.LastPage = 3
> >
> > End
> >
> > Inspecting the my_printer.FirstPage property gives the wrong value of 0
> > while my_printer.LastPage gives the correct value of 3
> >
> > It seems that the .FirstPage isn't being retained.
> >
>
> Please provide a project that reproduces the bug.
>
> I think you are wrong, and that the bug is in the GTK+ component, not in
> the QT one.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From sharon at 455.co.il  Mon Jul 26 01:07:36 2021
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 02:07:36 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Merge cells or split cells In GridView or TableView
Message-ID: <20210725230217.M98498@455.co.il>

Hello

Is it possible to merge cells or split cells
In controls: GridView or TableView

Thank you

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 01:28:29 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 00:28:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Merge cells or split cells In GridView or
 TableView
In-Reply-To: <20210725230217.M98498@455.co.il>
References: <20210725230217.M98498@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCA-4eY1XA+ZUz1p1ytcHAgVM2q+k=Yqt89HoLRs-3eC+g@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 00:15, Mayost Sharon <sharon at 455.co.il> wrote:

> Hello
>
> Is it possible to merge cells or split cells
> In controls: GridView or TableView
>
> Thank you
>

no automatic function, you would have to code it

For GridView you could change the ColumnSpan and merge manually
Same for rows with RowSpan

BruceS
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 02:09:21 2021
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (bb)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:39:21 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Merge cells or split cells In GridView or
 TableView
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCA-4eY1XA+ZUz1p1ytcHAgVM2q+k=Yqt89HoLRs-3eC+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20210725230217.M98498@455.co.il>
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Message-ID: <0a0d3663a0da6ce419741f5705b8eb7f5b9d3274.camel@gmail.com>

On Mon, 2021-07-26 at 00:28 +0100, Bruce Steers wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 00:15, Mayost Sharon <sharon at 455.co.il> wrote:
> > Hello
> > 
> > Is it possible to merge cells or split cells
> > In controls: GridView or TableView
> > 
> > Thank you
> 
> no automatic function, you would have to code it
> 
> For GridView you could change the ColumnSpan and merge manually
> Same for rows with RowSpan
> 
> BruceS
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

There's a couple or three (or more now that I think on it) Quite
Interesting algorithms here. Just looking at the first one

1: Split a cell(y,x) horizontally into m cells :
cell(y,x),cell(y,x1),...cell(y,xm) = Split a column into m columns then
recombine all other cell(y',x..xm) into cell(y',x)

   y-1,x-1 | y-1,x | y-1,x+1
   --------+-------+--------
     y,x-1 |  y,x  | y,x+1
   --------+-------+--------
   y+1,x-1 | y+1,x | y+1,x+1

goes to

   y-1,x-1 |        y-1,x            | y-1,x+1
   --------+-------------------------+--------
     y,x-1 | y,x | y,x1 | ... | y,xm | y,x+1
   --------+-------------------------+--------
   y+1,x-1 |        y+1,x            | y+1,x+1

Now the cardinality on y could be huge. (which is why I picked this one
:-) 
However, for gridviews (and tableviews too, I suppose) this is only OF
INTEREST if the row concerned, y, is visible. 

In an extreme case, lets say y cardinality in the order of 10^4 where
the row of the cell to be split is say 9,990 and the user is viewing
rows 0..23 is there any point in splitting/recombining the entire
gridview?


jm20c (hoping all my ascii art above hangs together)
bruce


From isafiur at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 05:49:16 2021
From: isafiur at gmail.com (Safiur Rahman)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:34:16 +0545
Subject: [Gambas-user] Embedding WebButton_Click() or WebMenu_Click() inside
 a javascript
Message-ID: <CADKn0T+kz3WjL-GA3UdQ68=fwozgNOFr0ArU11ntt6RyF_eBXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Beno?t

How can I embed WebButton_Click() or WebMenu_Click() inside a
javascript. I want to specify a short cut for WebButton Click and
WebMenu Click using mousetrap.js
https://github.com/ccampbell/mousetrap

For example this works:
<script>
  Mousetrap.bind('ctrl+s', function() {
    alert('control + s');
  });
</script>

How can I put WebButton_Click() or WebMenu_Click() procedures in place
of alert() in gambas gb.web.gui

(Attached a sample html)

-- 
Regards
Safiur Rahman
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From georgioskalogiannis at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 18:27:56 2021
From: georgioskalogiannis at gmail.com (Georgios Kalogiannis)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 19:27:56 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] datebox behavor problem
Message-ID: <CACP+Ep8fDYWDvqN0oAPG52npUP_3mefW16zWVcRtrqV4NnVrZw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello

I updated from gambas version 3.16.1 to 3.16.2 on ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
I cannot even display or choose date and time simultaneously when I set
DateTime mode for a datebox control. Always displays "00/00/0000"
I have tested it on a single form with only a simple datebox control.
It works fine when I set DateOnly or TimeOnly mode.
Do you have any ideas ?

Georgios




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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 19:18:57 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 19:18:57 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] datebox behavor problem
In-Reply-To: <CACP+Ep8fDYWDvqN0oAPG52npUP_3mefW16zWVcRtrqV4NnVrZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACP+Ep8fDYWDvqN0oAPG52npUP_3mefW16zWVcRtrqV4NnVrZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2cecd375-d950-23fa-218a-ba17d70c728e@gmail.com>

Le 27/07/2021 ? 18:27, Georgios Kalogiannis a ?crit?:
> Hello
> 
> I updated from gambas version 3.16.1 to 3.16.2 on ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
> I cannot even display or choose date and time simultaneously when I set 
> DateTime mode for a datebox control. Always displays?"00/00/0000"
> I have tested?it on a single?form with only a simple datebox control.
> It works fine when?I?set DateOnly or TimeOnly mode.
> Do you have any ideas ?
> 
> Georgios
> 

I think it has been fixed by commit 
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/fbf3479c32c948ce9ffb1e65b4873a034570c146.

You will get the fix in the 3.16.3 release.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From cybercamera at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 02:33:54 2021
From: cybercamera at gmail.com (Cam Era)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:33:54 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] .ErrorText in gb.gui.qt.webkit (Gambas 3.16.2)
Message-ID: <CAHrmVvPXZNTa7G0A4YpvOtvi4ggTRJTLpsvEs98Hg6JsRozRJw@mail.gmail.com>

It seems that the .ErrorText property was present in previous versions of
the WebView control, but missing in gb.gui.qt.webkit.

Does anyone have a workaround?

Cheers.
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From cybercamera at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 00:51:12 2021
From: cybercamera at gmail.com (Cam Era)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 08:51:12 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dragging to Webview?; HttpClient.Delete()?;
 & Embedder missing
In-Reply-To: <a881a7fc-d822-5067-87c1-d0e81ea23ae4@gmail.com>
References: <a881a7fc-d822-5067-87c1-d0e81ea23ae4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHrmVvMr2Rgk8zAFGO+ZDug=Tz16Usw3dM6o3+0d7t+xVkzJeg@mail.gmail.com>

Lee,

did you find a solution to this problem below? Or any other way to get
file-uploads working in Webview? If so, care to share?

Cheers

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 5:19 AM T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> 1. I am unable to drag files to an active Webview. For instance, when
> viewing a page with a form that has a <input type="file">
> element, I should be able to drag and drop a file from the system file
> manager onto the file input element. I cannot.
>
> The mouse drag cursor remains red, never turns green, to indicate that the
> file cannot be dropped on the Webview control. I have
> Webview.Drop=True if that makes any difference.
>
> Is there something I need to do to get Webview to accept drops from the
> system? Or is this just the nature of the beast?
>
>
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 02:09:02 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 20:09:02 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dragging to Webview?; HttpClient.Delete()?;
 & Embedder missing
In-Reply-To: <CAHrmVvMr2Rgk8zAFGO+ZDug=Tz16Usw3dM6o3+0d7t+xVkzJeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a881a7fc-d822-5067-87c1-d0e81ea23ae4@gmail.com>
 <CAHrmVvMr2Rgk8zAFGO+ZDug=Tz16Usw3dM6o3+0d7t+xVkzJeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3b2cf58c-9b69-d191-d184-d371c6bd13aa@gmail.com>

On 7/28/21 6:51 PM, Cam Era wrote:
> Lee,
> 
> did you find a solution to this problem below? Or any other way to get file-uploads working in Webview? If so, care to share?
> 
> Cheers

I did not find a solution to the problem below. To be honest, I don't even recall what project I was working on at that time. 
But, since I got no response, I suspect I simply ended up using my local webserver with PHP.


-- 
Lee

> 
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 5:19 AM T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com <mailto:t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     1. I am unable to drag files to an active Webview. For instance, when viewing a page with a form that has a <input type="file">
>     element, I should be able to drag and drop a file from the system file manager onto the file input element. I cannot.
> 
>     The mouse drag cursor remains red, never turns green, to indicate that the file cannot be dropped on the Webview control. I
>     have
>     Webview.Drop=True if that makes any difference.
> 
>     Is there something I need to do to get Webview to accept drops from the system? Or is this just the nature of the beast?

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 09:05:03 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 08:05:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dragging to Webview?; HttpClient.Delete()?;
 & Embedder missing
In-Reply-To: <CAHrmVvMr2Rgk8zAFGO+ZDug=Tz16Usw3dM6o3+0d7t+xVkzJeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a881a7fc-d822-5067-87c1-d0e81ea23ae4@gmail.com>
 <CAHrmVvMr2Rgk8zAFGO+ZDug=Tz16Usw3dM6o3+0d7t+xVkzJeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBSKzDAPYDjJ2Lra6cv7bT+1ZFApKG-RUxVB9UACVaWGQ@mail.gmail.com>

I just tried the following code...



*Public Sub WebView1_Drop()    Print Drag.DataEnd*


Drag-drop files from my computer to the application window woks completely
as expected.
result was...
*file:///home/bonus/Desktop/IconActionEd.desktop*

Not sure why it doesn't work for you?

BruceS


On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 at 23:52, Cam Era <cybercamera at gmail.com> wrote:

> Lee,
>
> did you find a solution to this problem below? Or any other way to get
> file-uploads working in Webview? If so, care to share?
>
> Cheers
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 5:19 AM T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> 1. I am unable to drag files to an active Webview. For instance, when
>> viewing a page with a form that has a <input type="file">
>> element, I should be able to drag and drop a file from the system file
>> manager onto the file input element. I cannot.
>>
>> The mouse drag cursor remains red, never turns green, to indicate that
>> the file cannot be dropped on the Webview control. I have
>> Webview.Drop=True if that makes any difference.
>>
>> Is there something I need to do to get Webview to accept drops from the
>> system? Or is this just the nature of the beast?
>>
>>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 09:24:00 2021
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 08:24:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dragging to Webview?; HttpClient.Delete()?;
 & Embedder missing
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBSKzDAPYDjJ2Lra6cv7bT+1ZFApKG-RUxVB9UACVaWGQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a881a7fc-d822-5067-87c1-d0e81ea23ae4@gmail.com>
 <CAHrmVvMr2Rgk8zAFGO+ZDug=Tz16Usw3dM6o3+0d7t+xVkzJeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCBSKzDAPYDjJ2Lra6cv7bT+1ZFApKG-RUxVB9UACVaWGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCSPQOou2dTCTYWa8Kipoob919aJ9kSfy7kZ16Q63bdtA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 08:05, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just tried the following code...
>
>
>
> *Public Sub WebView1_Drop()    Print Drag.DataEnd*
>
>
> Drag-drop files from my computer to the application window woks completely
> as expected.
> result was...
> *file:///home/bonus/Desktop/IconActionEd.desktop*
>
> Not sure why it doesn't work for you?
>
> BruceS
>


Note:
QT adds more to the drag.data separated by CR \r so needs cleaning up..
I used *Print Quote(Drag.Data)*  to discover exactly what text QT was
giving me and found it gave \r chars.

So to clean up the data, remove the 'file://' part and be compatible with
gtk and qt webview use something like this...


*Public Sub WebView1_Drop()  Dim sTrimmed As String = Replace(Drag.Data,
"file://", "")  *' remove 'file://'
*  Dim iPos As Integer = InStr(sTrimmed, "\r")   *' look for carriage return
*  If iPos Then sTrimmed = Mid(sTrimmed, 1, iPos - 1) * ' get text left of
first \r if one exists (QT)



*  Print "'"; sTrimmed; "'"End*
Hope that helps
BruceS




> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 at 23:52, Cam Era <cybercamera at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lee,
>>
>> did you find a solution to this problem below? Or any other way to get
>> file-uploads working in Webview? If so, care to share?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 5:19 AM T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 1. I am unable to drag files to an active Webview. For instance, when
>>> viewing a page with a form that has a <input type="file">
>>> element, I should be able to drag and drop a file from the system file
>>> manager onto the file input element. I cannot.
>>>
>>> The mouse drag cursor remains red, never turns green, to indicate that
>>> the file cannot be dropped on the Webview control. I have
>>> Webview.Drop=True if that makes any difference.
>>>
>>> Is there something I need to do to get Webview to accept drops from the
>>> system? Or is this just the nature of the beast?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 15:44:43 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 09:44:43 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dragging to Webview?; HttpClient.Delete()?;
 & Embedder missing
In-Reply-To: <79608a1c-3feb-423c-86e1-0547045c611f@gmail.com>
References: <a881a7fc-d822-5067-87c1-d0e81ea23ae4@gmail.com>
 <CAHrmVvMr2Rgk8zAFGO+ZDug=Tz16Usw3dM6o3+0d7t+xVkzJeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCBSKzDAPYDjJ2Lra6cv7bT+1ZFApKG-RUxVB9UACVaWGQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <79608a1c-3feb-423c-86e1-0547045c611f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <800f0bd0-8d33-bbc9-3095-0eb83673b5bd@gmail.com>

On 7/29/21 9:42 AM, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> I?confirm?that?drag?and?drop?does?indeed?work?with?Gambas?v3.16.2.
> 
> Perhaps?that?issue?has?been?fixed?in?a?year?and?a?half?since,?or,?I?didn't?do?something?right?at?the?time.

I should have said, "Drag and drop does work with a Webview."


-- 
Lee

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 15:42:45 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 09:42:45 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dragging to Webview?; HttpClient.Delete()?;
 & Embedder missing
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBSKzDAPYDjJ2Lra6cv7bT+1ZFApKG-RUxVB9UACVaWGQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a881a7fc-d822-5067-87c1-d0e81ea23ae4@gmail.com>
 <CAHrmVvMr2Rgk8zAFGO+ZDug=Tz16Usw3dM6o3+0d7t+xVkzJeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCBSKzDAPYDjJ2Lra6cv7bT+1ZFApKG-RUxVB9UACVaWGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79608a1c-3feb-423c-86e1-0547045c611f@gmail.com>

On 7/29/21 3:05 AM, Bruce Steers wrote:
> I just tried the following code...
> 
> *Public Sub WebView1_Drop()
>  ? ? Print Drag.Data
> End*
> 
> 
> Drag-drop files from my computer to the application window woks completely as expected.
> result was...
> *file:///home/bonus/Desktop/IconActionEd.desktop*
> 
> Not sure why it doesn't work for you?
> 
> BruceS
> 
> 
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 at 23:52, Cam Era <cybercamera at gmail.com <mailto:cybercamera at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Lee,
> 
>     did you find a solution to this problem below? Or any other way to get file-uploads working in Webview? If so, care to share?
> 
>     Cheers
> 
>     On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 5:19 AM T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com <mailto:t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         1. I am unable to drag files to an active Webview. For instance, when viewing a page with a form that has a <input
>         type="file">
>         element, I should be able to drag and drop a file from the system file manager onto the file input element. I cannot.
> 
>         The mouse drag cursor remains red, never turns green, to indicate that the file cannot be dropped on the Webview
>         control. I have
>         Webview.Drop=True if that makes any difference.
> 
>         Is there something I need to do to get Webview to accept drops from the system? Or is this just the nature of the beast?

I confirm that drag and drop does indeed work with Gambas v3.16.2.

Perhaps that issue has been fixed in a year and a half since, or, I didn't do something right at the time.


-- 
Lee

From vuott at tutanota.com  Fri Jul 30 00:25:18 2021
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 00:25:18 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
Message-ID: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>

Hello,
it seems to me that the procedure:

??? file_variable = Open "......." For Read Watch
.....
End

Public Sub File_Read()
......
......

no longer works.
(maybe from? Commit cba7b188 ? Or 1943dbfc ? )
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 00:38:32 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 00:38:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
References: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
Message-ID: <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>

Le 30/07/2021 ? 00:25, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
> Hello,
> it seems to me that the procedure:
> 
>  ??? file_variable = Open "......." For Read Watch
> .....
> End
> 
> Public Sub File_Read()
> ......
> ......
> 
> no longer works.
> (maybe from? Commit cba7b188 ? Or 1943dbfc ? )
> 

Can you send a full project that reproduces the bug?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From vuott at tutanota.com  Fri Jul 30 00:50:53 2021
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 00:50:53 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>
References: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MfoSdxW--3-2@tutanota.com>

Hi,
for example with this simple code (by using an external midi-keyboard connected to PC via USB):

Private mid As File

Public Sub Main()

? mid = Open "/dev/snd/midiC2D0" For Read Watch

End

Public Sub File_Read()

? Dim datum As Byte

? Read @mid, datum

? Print datum

End



30 lug 2021, 00:38 da g4mba5 at gmail.com:

> Le 30/07/2021 ? 00:25, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
>
>> Hello,
>> it seems to me that the procedure:
>>
>>  ??? file_variable = Open "......." For Read Watch
>> .....
>> End
>>
>> Public Sub File_Read()
>> ......
>> ......
>>
>> no longer works.
>> (maybe from? Commit cba7b188 ? Or 1943dbfc ? )
>>
>
> Can you send a full project that reproduces the bug?
>
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

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From vuott at tutanota.com  Fri Jul 30 00:52:39 2021
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 00:52:39 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <MfoSdxW--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoSgXC----2>
References: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>
 <MfoSdxW--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoSgXC----2>
Message-ID: <MfoT30o--3-2@tutanota.com>

opsss...Correction to the code:

?? Read #mid, datum




30 lug 2021, 00:50 da user at lists.gambas-basic.org:

> Hi,
> for example with this simple code (by using an external midi-keyboard connected to PC via USB):
>
> Private mid As File
>
> Public Sub Main()
>
> ? mid = Open "/dev/snd/midiC2D0" For Read Watch
>
> End
>
> Public Sub File_Read()
>
> ? Dim datum As Byte
>
> ? Read @mid, datum
>
> ? Print datum
>
> End
>
>
>
> 30 lug 2021, 00:38 da g4mba5 at gmail.com:
>
>> Le 30/07/2021 ? 00:25, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> it seems to me that the procedure:
>>>
>>> ??? file_variable = Open "......." For Read Watch
>>> .....
>>> End
>>>
>>> Public Sub File_Read()
>>> ......
>>> ......
>>>
>>> no longer works.
>>> (maybe from? Commit cba7b188 ? Or 1943dbfc ? )
>>>
>>
>> Can you send a full project that reproduces the bug?
>>
>> -- 
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
>

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From vuott at tutanota.com  Fri Jul 30 01:09:15 2021
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 01:09:15 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <MfoT30o--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoT8da----2>
References: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>
 <MfoSdxW--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoSgXC----2>
 <MfoT30o--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoT8da----2>
Message-ID: <MfoWr5D--3-2@tutanota.com>

I simply made a correction to the writing-error in my example code, obviously the problem - that I reported - remains.

regards



30 lug 2021, 00:52 da user at lists.gambas-basic.org:

> opsss...Correction to the code:
>
> ?? Read #mid, datum
>
>
>
>
> 30 lug 2021, 00:50 da user at lists.gambas-basic.org:
>
>> Hi,
>> for example with this simple code (by using an external midi-keyboard connected to PC via USB):
>>
>> Private mid As File
>>
>> Public Sub Main()
>>
>> ? mid = Open "/dev/snd/midiC2D0" For Read Watch
>>
>> End
>>
>> Public Sub File_Read()
>>
>> ? Dim datum As Byte
>>
>> ? Read @mid, datum
>>
>> ? Print datum
>>
>> End
>>
>>
>>
>> 30 lug 2021, 00:38 da g4mba5 at gmail.com:
>>
>>> Le 30/07/2021 ? 00:25, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> it seems to me that the procedure:
>>>>
>>>> ??? file_variable = Open "......." For Read Watch
>>>> .....
>>>> End
>>>>
>>>> Public Sub File_Read()
>>>> ......
>>>> ......
>>>>
>>>> no longer works.
>>>> (maybe from? Commit cba7b188 ? Or 1943dbfc ? )
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can you send a full project that reproduces the bug?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Beno?t Minisini
>>>
>>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 03:31:46 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 03:31:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <MfoWr5D--3-2@tutanota.com>
References: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>
 <MfoSdxW--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoSgXC----2>
 <MfoT30o--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoT8da----2> <MfoWr5D--3-2@tutanota.com>
Message-ID: <e1ca7bb2-4a86-4e60-6b1f-3128e3e9f9f9@gmail.com>

Le 30/07/2021 ? 01:09, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
> I simply made a correction to the writing-error in my example code, 
> obviously the problem - that I reported - remains.
> 
> regards
> 

Is File_Read() called at least once?

Do you have the problem with other devices?

Please send a project that reproduces the bug! Watching behaviour 
depends on the GUI tookit used if any.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From vuott at tutanota.com  Fri Jul 30 05:23:12 2021
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 05:23:12 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <e1ca7bb2-4a86-4e60-6b1f-3128e3e9f9f9@gmail.com>
References: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>
 <MfoSdxW--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoSgXC----2>
 <MfoT30o--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoT8da----2> <MfoWr5D--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <e1ca7bb2-4a86-4e60-6b1f-3128e3e9f9f9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MfpQz7j--3-2@tutanota.com>

Hello,

? >> Is File_Read() called at least once?
The File_Read () event is never raised, not even once.


? >> Do you have the problem with other devices?
Yes, I have:? for example with the file-device of the mouse (see attached project).

Regards




30 lug 2021, 03:31 da g4mba5 at gmail.com:

> Le 30/07/2021 ? 01:09, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
>
>> I simply made a correction to the writing-error in my example code, obviously the problem - that I reported - remains.
>>
>> regards
>>
>
> Is File_Read() called at least once?
>
> Do you have the problem with other devices?
>
> Please send a project that reproduces the bug! Watching behaviour depends on the GUI tookit used if any.
>
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Fri Jul 30 01:12:08 2021
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:12:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] UnitTest Functions Show Up in AutoGenerated help
Message-ID: <1630740182.11177.1627600328448.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

In a component project that includes embedded help for module/classes and functions. 
Then the help system also shows all the unit test functions as well. 

Is there some way to turn this off? 

Or will it always expose the unit test functions to the user? 
It is a little confusing to see these functions in the help. 


"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 
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From vuott at tutanota.com  Fri Jul 30 16:01:37 2021
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 16:01:37 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
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References: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>
 <MfoSdxW--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoSgXC----2>
 <MfoT30o--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoT8da----2> <MfoWr5D--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <e1ca7bb2-4a86-4e60-6b1f-3128e3e9f9f9@gmail.com>
 <MfpQz7j--3-2@tutanota.com-MfpRAbA--7-2>
Message-ID: <Mfri5iZ--7-2@tutanota.com>

Ok, I try to re-send my project.




30 lug 2021, 05:23 da user at lists.gambas-basic.org:

> Hello,
>
> ? >> Is File_Read() called at least once?
> The File_Read () event is never raised, not even once.
>
>
> ? >> Do you have the problem with other devices?
> Yes, I have:? > for example with the file-device of the mouse (see attached project).
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> 30 lug 2021, 03:31 da g4mba5 at gmail.com:
>
>> Le 30/07/2021 ? 01:09, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
>>
>>> I simply made a correction to the writing-error in my example code, obviously the problem - that I reported - remains.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>
>> Is File_Read() called at least once?
>>
>> Do you have the problem with other devices?
>>
>> Please send a project that reproduces the bug! Watching behaviour depends on the GUI tookit used if any.
>>
>> -- 
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
>
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From vuott at tutanota.com  Fri Jul 30 16:13:24 2021
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 16:13:24 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <Mfri5iZ--7-2@tutanota.com-MfriCUh----2>
References: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>
 <MfoSdxW--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoSgXC----2>
 <MfoT30o--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoT8da----2> <MfoWr5D--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <e1ca7bb2-4a86-4e60-6b1f-3128e3e9f9f9@gmail.com>
 <MfpQz7j--3-2@tutanota.com-MfpRAbA--7-2>
 <Mfri5iZ--7-2@tutanota.com-MfriCUh----2>
Message-ID: <MfrknVO--B-2@tutanota.com>

I hope...





30 lug 2021, 16:01 da user at lists.gambas-basic.org:

> Ok, I try to re-send my project.
>
>
>
>
> 30 lug 2021, 05:23 da user at lists.gambas-basic.org:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> ? >> Is File_Read() called at least once?
>> The File_Read () event is never raised, not even once.
>>
>>
>> ? >> Do you have the problem with other devices?
>> Yes, I have:? >> for example with the file-device of the mouse (see attached project).
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 30 lug 2021, 03:31 da g4mba5 at gmail.com:
>>
>>> Le 30/07/2021 ? 01:09, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
>>>
>>>> I simply made a correction to the writing-error in my example code, obviously the problem - that I reported - remains.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is File_Read() called at least once?
>>>
>>> Do you have the problem with other devices?
>>>
>>> Please send a project that reproduces the bug! Watching behaviour depends on the GUI tookit used if any.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Beno?t Minisini
>>>
>>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>>
>>
>>
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 19:08:48 2021
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 13:08:48 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <MfrknVO--B-2@tutanota.com>
References: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>
 <MfoSdxW--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoSgXC----2>
 <MfoT30o--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoT8da----2> <MfoWr5D--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <e1ca7bb2-4a86-4e60-6b1f-3128e3e9f9f9@gmail.com>
 <MfpQz7j--3-2@tutanota.com-MfpRAbA--7-2>
 <Mfri5iZ--7-2@tutanota.com-MfriCUh----2> <MfrknVO--B-2@tutanota.com>
Message-ID: <cf0a63e1-39e4-961b-6ed2-c4676e7d6e3f@gmail.com>

On 7/30/21 10:13 AM, vuott--- via User wrote:
> I hope...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 30 lug 2021, 16:01 da user at lists.gambas-basic.org:
> 
>     Ok, I try to re-send my project.
> 
> 

It appears to work here.


-- 
Lee

[System]
Gambas=3.16.2 5ed24722 (stable)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.3.18-lp152.84-default
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=openSUSE Leap 15.2
Desktop=KDE5
Font=Noto Sans,10
Scale=7
Theme=breeze
Language=en_US.UTF-8
Memory=16000M

[Libraries]
Cairo=/usr/lib64/libcairo.so.2.11600.0
Curl=/usr/lib64/libcurl.so.4.6.0
DBus=/usr/lib64/libdbus-1.so.3.19.4
GDK2=/usr/lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GDK3=/usr/lib64/libgdk-3.so.0.2404.16
GStreamer=/usr/lib64/libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1603.0
GTK+2=/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GTK+3=/usr/lib64/libgtk-3.so.0.2404.16
OpenGL=/usr/lib64/libGL.so.1.7.0
Poppler=/usr/lib64/libpoppler.so.89.0.0
QT4=/usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4.8.7
QT5=/usr/lib64/libQt5Core.so.5.12.7
SDL2=/usr/lib64/libSDL2-2.0.so.0.8.0
SDL=/usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite3=/usr/lib64/libsqlite3.so.0.8.6
XML2=/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2.9.7

From vuott at tutanota.com  Fri Jul 30 20:11:32 2021
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:11:32 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <cf0a63e1-39e4-961b-6ed2-c4676e7d6e3f@gmail.com>
References: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>
 <MfoSdxW--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoSgXC----2>
 <MfoT30o--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoT8da----2> <MfoWr5D--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <e1ca7bb2-4a86-4e60-6b1f-3128e3e9f9f9@gmail.com>
 <MfpQz7j--3-2@tutanota.com-MfpRAbA--7-2>
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 <cf0a63e1-39e4-961b-6ed2-c4676e7d6e3f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MfsbIdt--3-2@tutanota.com>

Hi,
this is my system:

[System]
Gambas=3.16.90 2b66c08 (master)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.11.0-25-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Linux Mint 20.2 Uma
Desktop=CINNAMON
Font=Ubuntu,10
Scale=7
Theme=mint-y
Language=it_IT.UTF-8
Memory=5380M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.6.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.11
GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.16
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1602.0
GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.16
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.97.0.0
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.12.8
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6



30 lug 2021, 19:08 da t.lee.davidson at gmail.com:

> On 7/30/21 10:13 AM, vuott--- via User wrote:
>
>> I hope...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 30 lug 2021, 16:01 da user at lists.gambas-basic.org:
>>
>>  Ok, I try to re-send my project.
>>
>
> It appears to work here.
>
>
> -- 
> Lee
>
> [System]
> Gambas=3.16.2 5ed24722 (stable)
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=5.3.18-lp152.84-default
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=openSUSE Leap 15.2
> Desktop=KDE5
> Font=Noto Sans,10
> Scale=7
> Theme=breeze
> Language=en_US.UTF-8
> Memory=16000M
>
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=/usr/lib64/libcairo.so.2.11600.0
> Curl=/usr/lib64/libcurl.so.4.6.0
> DBus=/usr/lib64/libdbus-1.so.3.19.4
> GDK2=/usr/lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
> GDK3=/usr/lib64/libgdk-3.so.0.2404.16
> GStreamer=/usr/lib64/libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1603.0
> GTK+2=/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
> GTK+3=/usr/lib64/libgtk-3.so.0.2404.16
> OpenGL=/usr/lib64/libGL.so.1.7.0
> Poppler=/usr/lib64/libpoppler.so.89.0.0
> QT4=/usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4.8.7
> QT5=/usr/lib64/libQt5Core.so.5.12.7
> SDL2=/usr/lib64/libSDL2-2.0.so.0.8.0
> SDL=/usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
> SQLite3=/usr/lib64/libsqlite3.so.0.8.6
> XML2=/usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2.9.7
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Jul 31 00:49:47 2021
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 15:49:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error sending to mailing list, slow
Message-ID: <818078814.11630.1627685387616.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

I am very often getting this error when I try to send something to the mailing list from the postmaster 

#################################################################### 
# THIS IS A WARNING ONLY. YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. # 
#################################################################### 

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message has not yet 
been delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. 

< user at lists.gambas-basic.org > delayed: host mailin1.hostsharing.net 
[ callto:(83.223.95.203 | (83.223.95.203 ] ) said: 450 4.2.0 < user at lists.gambas-basic.org >: Recipient 
address rejected: Recipient address rejected: Greylisted. Please try again 
later. (in reply to RCPT command) 

Is something happening to the mailing list? 

"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
Brian G 
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 01:08:27 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 01:08:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
In-Reply-To: <MfpQz7j--3-2@tutanota.com>
References: <MfoMnEa--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <eb915e23-8a22-ffab-0586-80870cfc22e5@gmail.com>
 <MfoSdxW--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoSgXC----2>
 <MfoT30o--3-2@tutanota.com-MfoT8da----2> <MfoWr5D--3-2@tutanota.com>
 <e1ca7bb2-4a86-4e60-6b1f-3128e3e9f9f9@gmail.com> <MfpQz7j--3-2@tutanota.com>
Message-ID: <7382d90a-7191-0384-7ab9-0ee035cf9404@gmail.com>

Le 30/07/2021 ? 05:23, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
> Hello,
> 
>  ? >> Is File_Read() called at least once?
> The File_Read () event is never raised, not even once.
> 
> 
>  ? >> Do you have the problem with other devices?
> Yes, I have: for example with the file-device of the mouse (see attached 
> project).
> 
> Regards
> 

The bug should have been fixed by commit 
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/a7a249543ec1e5d137755dfbb0059087c21b7c96.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From cybercamera at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 02:49:20 2021
From: cybercamera at gmail.com (Cam Era)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 10:49:20 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dragging to Webview?; HttpClient.Delete()?;
 & Embedder missing
In-Reply-To: <800f0bd0-8d33-bbc9-3095-0eb83673b5bd@gmail.com>
References: <a881a7fc-d822-5067-87c1-d0e81ea23ae4@gmail.com>
 <CAHrmVvMr2Rgk8zAFGO+ZDug=Tz16Usw3dM6o3+0d7t+xVkzJeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCBSKzDAPYDjJ2Lra6cv7bT+1ZFApKG-RUxVB9UACVaWGQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <79608a1c-3feb-423c-86e1-0547045c611f@gmail.com>
 <800f0bd0-8d33-bbc9-3095-0eb83673b5bd@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHrmVvNo5hUb==U5af4cn2y3vLDsFyGCeqFFuFPOGk_m2ObPMA@mail.gmail.com>

Guys,

thanks muchly for all your input. Most appreciated.

On 7/29/21, T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/29/21 9:42 AM, T Lee Davidson wrote:
>> I?confirm?that?drag?and?drop?does?indeed?work?with?Gambas?v3.16.2.
>>
>> Perhaps?that?issue?has?been?fixed?in?a?year?and?a?half?since,?or,?I?didn't?do?something?right?at?the?time.
>
> I should have said, "Drag and drop does work with a Webview."
>
>
> --
> Lee
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Fri Jul 30 20:46:58 2021
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 11:46:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] A Way to determine if Terminal supports color
Message-ID: <1948496410.11546.1627670818043.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Maybe Tobias can help? 

Is there a way to use the color.available in gb.ncurses without having the screen automatically initialized. 

Like using setupterm() and then call has_color() 
To get the color available info from the terminal cap, so it never initializes the actual screen? 

Or is there another way to get this info? 

Maybe Tobias can help? 

I found this sample for c code: 
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <curses.h>

int main(void) {
  char *term = getenv("TERM");

  int erret = 0;
  if (setupterm(NULL, 1, &erret) == ERR) {
    char *errmsg = "unknown error";
    switch (erret) {
    case 1: errmsg = "terminal is hardcopy, cannot be used for curses applications"; break;
    case 0: errmsg = "terminal could not be found, or not enough information for curses applications"; break;
    case -1: errmsg = "terminfo entry could not be found"; break;
    }
    printf("Color support for terminal \"%s\" unknown (error %d: %s).\n", term, erret, errmsg);
    exit(1);
  }

  bool colors = has_colors();

  printf("Terminal \"%s\" %s colors.\n", term, colors ? "has" : "does not have");

  return 0;
} 



"Failure is the key to success; 
each mistake teaches us something" .. Morihei Ueshiba 
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From tobs at taboege.de  Sat Jul 31 13:41:20 2021
From: tobs at taboege.de (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:41:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A Way to determine if Terminal supports color
In-Reply-To: <1948496410.11546.1627670818043.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <1948496410.11546.1627670818043.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
Message-ID: <20210731114120.GA3827461@highrise.localdomain>

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, Brian G wrote:
> Maybe Tobias can help? 
> 
> Is there a way to use the color.available in gb.ncurses without having the screen automatically initialized. 
> 

gb.ncurses always calls initscr() as soon as the component is loaded to
establish a clean environment for the other classes "once and for all".
So there is no way to do that with gb.ncurses. It was conceived as a
user interface component (although not a lot came of it), not to inspect
low-level terminal capabilities. (I'm not saying that this wouldn't be
useful to have, maybe in gb.term?)

> Like using setupterm() and then call has_color() 
> To get the color available info from the terminal cap, so it never initializes the actual screen? 
> 
> Or is there another way to get this info? 
> 

Honestly, the quickest way is probably via Extern:

  Extern setupterm(term As String, fd As Integer, err As Pointer) As Integer In "libncursesw"
  Extern has_colors() As Integer In "libncursesw"

But note that when I try, inspired by your snippet,

  #include <stdio.h>
  #include <stdlib.h>
  #include <ncurses.h>
  #include <term.h>

  int main(void) {
    int err = 0;
    printf("%d ", setupterm(NULL, 1, &err));
    printf("%d ", err);
    printf("%d\n", has_colors());
    exit(0);
  }

I get the output "0 1 0", meaning my terminal is detected as hardcopy,
not capable of curses or color.

But when I properly initialize ncurses using initscr(),

  #include <stdio.h>
  #include <stdlib.h>
  #include <ncurses.h>

  int main(void) {
    initscr();
    int c = has_colors();
    endwin();

    printf("%d\n", c);
    exit(0);
  }

I get the expected output "1". Are you sure your method is supposed to work?

Best,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Jul 31 14:43:31 2021
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 05:43:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] A Way to determine if Terminal supports color
In-Reply-To: <20210731114120.GA3827461@highrise.localdomain>
References: <1948496410.11546.1627670818043.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
 <20210731114120.GA3827461@highrise.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1708614625.11738.1627735411235.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>



"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jul 31, 2021, at 4:41 AM, Gambas mailing list user at lists.gambas-basic.org wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, Brian G wrote:
>> Maybe Tobias can help?
>> 
>> Is there a way to use the color.available in gb.ncurses without having the
>> screen automatically initialized.
>>
Thanks for taking the time to look at this question Tobias.
I finally found the method below to work correctly.
Using the lower level terminfo database calls. Tested this with most terminals on the linux
Seems to work reliably ..... so far.

Even worked with the gambas console which reports 8 colors!

That snippet I originally found did not work correctly, it crossed the lower level calls with curses calls.

It sure would be helpful if the terminfo data was available through gb.term.
I was looking for a way to determine capabilities without messing with the actual screen.

' Gambas class file termcap

Extern setupterm(term As String, filedes As Integer, errret As Pointer) As Integer In "libtinfo"
Extern tigetnum(cap As String) As Integer In "libtinfo"

Private NoTermInfo As Boolean = False
Public errmsg As String = ""

Public Sub _new()
  Dim err As Integer = 0
  Dim result As Integer = setupterm(Null, File.out.Handle, VarPtr(err))
  If result Then 
    Select Case err
      Case 1
        errmsg = "terminfo: terminal is hardcopy, cannot be used for curses applications"
      Case 0
        errmsg = "terminfo: terminal could not be found, or not enough information for curses applications"
      Case -1
        errmsg = "terminfo: entry could not be found"
    End Select
    NoTermInfo = True
  Endif
  
End

'' Returns the number of colors the terminal can support
Public Sub has_color() As Integer
  
  If NoTermInfo Then Return 0
  Return tigetnum("colors")  ' returns -number if not found
  
End



> 
> gb.ncurses always calls initscr() as soon as the component is loaded to
> establish a clean environment for the other classes "once and for all".
> So there is no way to do that with gb.ncurses. It was conceived as a
> user interface component (although not a lot came of it), not to inspect
> low-level terminal capabilities. (I'm not saying that this wouldn't be
> useful to have, maybe in gb.term?)
> 
>> Like using setupterm() and then call has_color()
>> To get the color available info from the terminal cap, so it never initializes
>> the actual screen?
>> 
>> Or is there another way to get this info?
>> 
> 
> Honestly, the quickest way is probably via Extern:
> 
>  Extern setupterm(term As String, fd As Integer, err As Pointer) As Integer In
>  "libncursesw"
>  Extern has_colors() As Integer In "libncursesw"
> 
> But note that when I try, inspired by your snippet,
> 
>  #include <stdio.h>
>  #include <stdlib.h>
>  #include <ncurses.h>
>  #include <term.h>
> 
>  int main(void) {
>    int err = 0;
>    printf("%d ", setupterm(NULL, 1, &err));
>    printf("%d ", err);
>    printf("%d\n", has_colors());
>    exit(0);
>  }
> 
> I get the output "0 1 0", meaning my terminal is detected as hardcopy,
> not capable of curses or color.
> 
> But when I properly initialize ncurses using initscr(),
> 
>  #include <stdio.h>
>  #include <stdlib.h>
>  #include <ncurses.h>
> 
>  int main(void) {
>    initscr();
>    int c = has_colors();
>    endwin();
> 
>    printf("%d\n", c);
>    exit(0);
>  }
> 
> I get the expected output "1". Are you sure your method is supposed to work?
> 
> Best,
> Tobias
> 
> --
> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
> 
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From vuott at tutanota.com  Sat Jul 31 16:06:03 2021
From: vuott at tutanota.com (vuott at tutanota.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:06:03 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] File_Read() doesn't work
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Hello Beno?t,
yes, now it works.





31 lug 2021, 01:08 da g4mba5 at gmail.com:

> Le 30/07/2021 ? 05:23, vuott--- via User a ?crit?:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>  ? >> Is File_Read() called at least once?
>> The File_Read () event is never raised, not even once.
>>
>>
>>  ? >> Do you have the problem with other devices?
>> Yes, I have: for example with the file-device of the mouse (see attached project).
>>
>> Regards
>>
>
> The bug should have been fixed by commit https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/a7a249543ec1e5d137755dfbb0059087c21b7c96.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 22:41:10 2021
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 22:41:10 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] UnitTest Functions Show Up in AutoGenerated help
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Le 30/07/2021 ? 01:12, Brian G a ?crit?:
> In a component project that includes embedded help for module/classes 
> and functions.
> Then the help system also shows all the unit test functions as well.
> 
> Is there some way to turn this off?
> 
> Or will it always expose the unit test functions to the user?
> It is a little confusing to see these functions in the help.
> 
> 
> "Failure is the key to success;
>  ?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
> Brian G
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

I don't know.

Is it be useful to have documentation comments inside the test classes? 
If it is, then they must appear in the help tree browser.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Jul 31 22:54:42 2021
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:54:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] UnitTest Functions Show Up in AutoGenerated help
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"Failure is the key to success; 
 each mistake teaches us something"  .. Morihei Ueshiba
Brian G

----- On Jul 31, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Beno?t Minisini g4mba5 at gmail.com wrote:

> Le 30/07/2021 ? 01:12, Brian G a ?crit?:
>> In a component project that includes embedded help for module/classes
>> and functions.
>> Then the help system also shows all the unit test functions as well.
>> 
>> Is there some way to turn this off?
>> 
>> Or will it always expose the unit test functions to the user?
>> It is a little confusing to see these functions in the help.
>> 
>> 
>> "Failure is the key to success;
>>  ?each mistake teaches us something" ?.. Morihei Ueshiba
>> Brian G
>> 
>> 
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>> 
> 
> I don't know.
> 
> Is it be useful to have documentation comments inside the test classes?
> If it is, then they must appear in the help tree browser.
> 
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
It is very useful during the development of the component, But completely confusing to
someone trying to use the component to develop another app.

So when a component is built, we can tell the compiler not to include test modules for production builds?
Or not show help/interface for test modules in production?