From gp at antani.se  Sun Mar  1 03:33:14 2020
From: gp at antani.se (Gianni Piccini)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 03:33:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error launching Gambas first time
Message-ID: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>

After a fresh pc installation, when trying to run Gambas, it doesn't 
start. I've installed last debian testing, and it has Gambas 3.14.3.
This is the terminal response:



me at debsrv:~$ gambas3
gb.jit: error: unable to compile JIT code of 'gb.form.terminal':

In file included from /tmp/gambas.1000/27771/jit/jit.h:35,
                  from /tmp/gambas.1000/27771/jit/gb.form.terminal.c:1:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9/include/stdint.h:9:16: fatal error: 
stdint.h: File o directory non esistente
     9 | # include_next <stdint.h>
       |                ^~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.

**
** OOPS! INTERNAL ERROR. Program aborting, sorry! :-(
** Unable to compile JIT source file
**
** Please send a bug report to the gambas bugtracker [1] or to the 
gambas mailing-list [2].
** [1] http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker
** [2] https://lists.gambas-basic.org/listinfo/user
**



"File o directory non esistente" is for "File or directory doesn't 
exist", but file is there:

me at debsrv:~$ ls /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9/include/stdint.h
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9/include/stdint.h

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Mar  1 11:46:14 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 11:46:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error launching Gambas first time
In-Reply-To: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
References: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYrnKfwxpnjmtrsqqwhNyh7TC=dsB5bcBvJs_Zh+T6TtA@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno dom 1 mar 2020 alle ore 09:33 Gianni Piccini <gp at antani.se> ha
scritto:

> After a fresh pc installation, when trying to run Gambas, it doesn't
> start. I've installed last debian testing, and it has Gambas 3.14.3.
> This is the terminal response:
> ...
>

You could compile the latest Gambas, on Gambas-it.org for forum members
there is a pdf step by step (*) which explains how to do it (and it's not a
supercazzola :-)).

Regards
Gianluigi

(*) https://www.gambas-it.org/smf/index.php?topic=6515.msg44259#msg44259
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sun Mar  1 12:27:57 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 12:27:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error launching Gambas first time
In-Reply-To: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
References: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
Message-ID: <8ae1faea-ce72-ba3e-fffb-ce9e3c766ab8@deganius.de>

Am 01.03.20 um 03:33 schrieb Gianni Piccini:
> After a fresh pc installation, when trying to run Gambas, it doesn't 
> start. I've installed last debian testing, and it has Gambas 3.14.3.
> This is the terminal response:
> 
> me at debsrv:~$ gambas3
> gb.jit: error: unable to compile JIT code of 'gb.form.terminal':

This should not happen. As you are using Debian Testing you should
report that to the maintainers of the packages with the Debian program
reportbug.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Sun Mar  1 20:35:02 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 21:35:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error launching Gambas first time
In-Reply-To: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
References: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7QR1+NksA9H1yCc5kF0TCmDFJa+n5r8WW+uP5Kw=mAQRw@mail.gmail.com>

I think this should work as temporary fix, run gambas with command;
GB_NO_JIT=1 gambas3

Jussi

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 10:33 AM Gianni Piccini <gp at antani.se> wrote:

> After a fresh pc installation, when trying to run Gambas, it doesn't
> start. I've installed last debian testing, and it has Gambas 3.14.3.
> This is the terminal response:
>
>
>
> me at debsrv:~$ gambas3
> gb.jit: error: unable to compile JIT code of 'gb.form.terminal':
>
> In file included from /tmp/gambas.1000/27771/jit/jit.h:35,
>                   from /tmp/gambas.1000/27771/jit/gb.form.terminal.c:1:
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9/include/stdint.h:9:16: fatal error:
> stdint.h: File o directory non esistente
>      9 | # include_next <stdint.h>
>        |                ^~~~~~~~~~
> compilation terminated.
>
> **
> ** OOPS! INTERNAL ERROR. Program aborting, sorry! :-(
> ** Unable to compile JIT source file
> **
> ** Please send a bug report to the gambas bugtracker [1] or to the
> gambas mailing-list [2].
> ** [1] http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker
> ** [2] https://lists.gambas-basic.org/listinfo/user
> **
>
>
>
> "File o directory non esistente" is for "File or directory doesn't
> exist", but file is there:
>
> me at debsrv:~$ ls /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9/include/stdint.h
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9/include/stdint.h
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From gp at antani.se  Sun Mar  1 20:03:15 2020
From: gp at antani.se (Gianni Piccini)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 20:03:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error launching Gambas first time
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYrnKfwxpnjmtrsqqwhNyh7TC=dsB5bcBvJs_Zh+T6TtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
 <CAJ2rqFYrnKfwxpnjmtrsqqwhNyh7TC=dsB5bcBvJs_Zh+T6TtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b4b88a2b-edcc-4af0-5f3d-b514d8c327da@antani.se>

Il 01/03/20 11:46, Gianluigi ha scritto:

> You could compile the latest Gambas, on Gambas-it.org for forum members 
> there is a pdf step by step (*) which explains how to do it (and it's 
> not a supercazzola :-)).

Yes, I know and I'm registered, also if I'm not using Gambas too much now.

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  1 20:53:29 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 20:53:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error launching Gambas first time
In-Reply-To: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
References: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
Message-ID: <acbcef12-3fc5-3d3d-2ac9-e9fdc3f8861a@gmail.com>

Le 01/03/2020 ? 03:33, Gianni Piccini a ?crit?:
> After a fresh pc installation, when trying to run Gambas, it doesn't 
> start. I've installed last debian testing, and it has Gambas 3.14.3.
> This is the terminal response:
> 
> 
> 
> me at debsrv:~$ gambas3
> gb.jit: error: unable to compile JIT code of 'gb.form.terminal':
> 
> In file included from /tmp/gambas.1000/27771/jit/jit.h:35,
>  ???????????????? from /tmp/gambas.1000/27771/jit/gb.form.terminal.c:1:
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9/include/stdint.h:9:16: fatal error: 
> stdint.h: File o directory non esistente
>  ??? 9 | # include_next <stdint.h>
>  ????? |??????????????? ^~~~~~~~~~
> compilation terminated.
> 
> **
> ** OOPS! INTERNAL ERROR. Program aborting, sorry! :-(
> ** Unable to compile JIT source file
> **
> ** Please send a bug report to the gambas bugtracker [1] or to the 
> gambas mailing-list [2].
> ** [1] http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker
> ** [2] https://lists.gambas-basic.org/listinfo/user
> **
> 
> 
> 
> "File o directory non esistente" is for "File or directory doesn't 
> exist", but file is there:
> 
> me at debsrv:~$ ls /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9/include/stdint.h
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9/include/stdint.h
> 

I find strange that gcc cannot find its own include files... Is it 
possible for debian testing to have something buggy on that side?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From gp at antani.se  Sun Mar  1 20:01:04 2020
From: gp at antani.se (Gianni Piccini)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 20:01:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error launching Gambas first time
In-Reply-To: <8ae1faea-ce72-ba3e-fffb-ce9e3c766ab8@deganius.de>
References: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
 <8ae1faea-ce72-ba3e-fffb-ce9e3c766ab8@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <eaf85c27-5c4e-4d04-346c-35a49b8468e7@antani.se>

Il 01/03/20 12:27, Christof Thalhofer ha scritto:

> This should not happen. As you are using Debian Testing you should
> report that to the maintainers of the packages with the Debian program
> reportbug.

I'll try it

From gp at antani.se  Sun Mar  1 21:39:14 2020
From: gp at antani.se (Gianni Piccini)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 21:39:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error launching Gambas first time
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7QR1+NksA9H1yCc5kF0TCmDFJa+n5r8WW+uP5Kw=mAQRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
 <CAFJMe7QR1+NksA9H1yCc5kF0TCmDFJa+n5r8WW+uP5Kw=mAQRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f8933820-bc8f-754d-f691-4b4cd42f474e@antani.se>

Il 01/03/20 20:35, Jussi Lahtinen ha scritto:

> I think this should work as temporary fix, run gambas with command; 
> GB_NO_JIT=1 gambas3

Yes, it works :-)

From gp at antani.se  Sun Mar  1 22:19:15 2020
From: gp at antani.se (Gianni Piccini)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 22:19:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error launching Gambas first time
In-Reply-To: <acbcef12-3fc5-3d3d-2ac9-e9fdc3f8861a@gmail.com>
References: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
 <acbcef12-3fc5-3d3d-2ac9-e9fdc3f8861a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f81a956-58cf-9778-de60-6f19854b9229@antani.se>

Il 01/03/20 20:53, Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:

> I find strange that gcc cannot find its own include files... Is it 
> possible for debian testing to have something buggy on that side?

Of course, due this is a fresh installation, ma testing pinned with sid 
and experimental

From chrisml at deganius.de  Sun Mar  1 22:35:36 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 22:35:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error launching Gambas first time
In-Reply-To: <acbcef12-3fc5-3d3d-2ac9-e9fdc3f8861a@gmail.com>
References: <37b82e3f-a628-0b33-4dcc-6c108e54446a@antani.se>
 <acbcef12-3fc5-3d3d-2ac9-e9fdc3f8861a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a4b3d608-9f5d-9662-95fd-d6457a6e5dea@deganius.de>

Am 01.03.20 um 20:53 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> I find strange that gcc cannot find its own include files... Is it 
> possible for debian testing to have something buggy on that side?

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting

Requirement for it:
"The package does not introduce new release critical bugs"

This is a bug which should not occur. This would be release critical. So
it has to be reported to the Debian maintainer.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From fstead at mac.com  Sun Mar  1 22:49:06 2020
From: fstead at mac.com (Fred Steadman)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 15:49:06 -0600
Subject: [Gambas-user] GAMBAS download
Message-ID: <227EFA06-8AF2-40A8-83D9-63CB14800D41@mac.com>

Does your software only work on Linex?

I?m running that version of Unix that is accessed in the terminal application of iMac ?El Capitan?. Following is a log of my initial attempts to download and build GAMBAS on my system. It appears I?m missing a couple of pieces.

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

/Users/fstead/BASIC
fredstemansimac:BASIC fstead$ ls -l
total 24440
drwxr-xr-x  69 fstead  staff      2346 Jan 17 17:33 gambas-3.14.3
-rw-r--r--@  1 fstead  staff  12509723 Feb 28 10:14 gambas-3.14.3.tar.bz2
fredstemansimac:BASIC fstead$ ls gambas-3.14.3
AUTHORS				gb.compress.bzlib2		gb.ncurses
CONTRIBUTING.md			gb.compress.zlib		gb.net <http://gb.net/>
COPYING				gb.crypt			gb.net.curl
ChangeLog			gb.db.mysql			gb.openal
INSTALL				gb.db.odbc			gb.opengl
INSTALL.html			gb.db.postgresql		gb.openssl
Makefile.am			gb.db.sqlite2			gb.pcre
NEWS				gb.db.sqlite3			gb.pdf
README				gb.dbus				gb.qt4
README.commit			gb.desktop.gnome.keyring	gb.qt5
README.md			gb.desktop.x11			gb.sdl
TEMPLATE			gb.gmp				gb.sdl.sound
TODO				gb.gsl				gb.sdl2
VERSION				gb.gtk				gb.v4l
acinclude.m4			gb.gtk3				gb.xml
app				gb.httpd			logo
benchmark			gb.image.imlib			m4
build-dist			gb.image.io <http://gb.image.io/>			main
comp				gb.jit.llvm			reconf
component.am			gb.libxml			reconf-all
configure.ac			gb.media			version.m4
gb.cairo			gb.mime
fredstemansimac:BASIC fstead$ cd ./gambas-3.14.3
fredstemansimac:gambas-3.14.3 fstead$ ./reconf-all
./reconf-all: line 7: libtoolize: command not found
./reconf-all: line 8: autoreconf: command not found
fredstemansimac:gambas-3.14.3 fstead$ ./configure -C
-bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
fredstemansimac:gambas-3.14.3 fstead$ ls libtoolize
ls: libtoolize: No such file or directory
fredstemansimac:gambas-3.14.3 fstead$ ls libtoolize*
ls: libtoolize*: No such file or directory
fredstemansimac:gambas-3.14.3 fstead$ autoreconf
-bash: autoreconf: command not found
fredstemansimac:gambas-3.14.3 fstead$ ls autoreconf*
ls: autoreconf*: No such file or directory
fredstemansimac:gambas-3.14.3 fstead$
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From pebauer68 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  2 09:56:13 2020
From: pebauer68 at gmail.com (Peter Bauer)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 09:56:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Circular references with Gambas 3.14.90 dev build
 from gitlab
Message-ID: <CAATcmG5yB6Ywhat03q5iXxJf77Vgv9r4z5935X-+Yub08XhRrg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
2.3.2020:
$git clone --depth=1 https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas.git
Building was ok

$gambas3 -V
3.14.90
gbx3: warning: circular references detected:
gbx3:     3 Process

Best Regards,
Peter
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From pebauer68 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  2 10:24:38 2020
From: pebauer68 at gmail.com (Peter Bauer)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 10:24:38 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.14.90 file not found,
 full path for file needed ?
Message-ID: <CAATcmG4O=Jh8KkAJmrML8ng3JAf6-ify791mG9jxKVx2BXfq7w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I often start Gambas3 IDE from the command line to open a single file:
This works:
peter at brix:~/src_gambas/scripts$ gambas3 $(pwd)/test.txt

This gives me the error: "file not found" from gambas3 IDE
peter at brix:~/src_gambas/scripts$ gambas3 test.txt
Is it possible to make this more user friendly ?

Best Regards,
Peter
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From pebauer68 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  2 10:35:41 2020
From: pebauer68 at gmail.com (Peter Bauer)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 10:35:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily,
 Error: qt5 components missing
Message-ID: <CAATcmG5F7iFF=+G4k_KOYO+64w2JMbfms_XJMLK5ox=yy+2TNw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I have tried to install daily build from Ubuntu ppa on Ubuntu 18.04.
The ppa does not include all components to start the Gambas3 IDE.
Gambas3 IDE startup Error:
"qt5" components missing

BR,
Peter Bauer
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar  2 10:46:10 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 10:46:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.14.90 file not found,
 full path for file needed ?
In-Reply-To: <CAATcmG4O=Jh8KkAJmrML8ng3JAf6-ify791mG9jxKVx2BXfq7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAATcmG4O=Jh8KkAJmrML8ng3JAf6-ify791mG9jxKVx2BXfq7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef7a38eb-0768-b656-5c50-8fe24fa8d6ca@deganius.de>

Hello Peter,

Am 02.03.20 um 10:24 schrieb Peter Bauer:

> I often start Gambas3 IDE from the command line to open a single file:
> This works:
> peter at brix:~/src_gambas/scripts$ gambas3 $(pwd)/test.txt
> 
> This gives me the error: "file not found" from gambas3 IDE
> peter at brix:~/src_gambas/scripts$ gambas3 test.txt
> Is it possible to make this more user friendly ?

I am not sure if it is possible as the IDE is built around projects.

But nevertheless: Would you please write this into the bugtracker as a
feature wish?

http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  2 14:22:24 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 14:22:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Circular references with Gambas 3.14.90 dev build
 from gitlab
In-Reply-To: <CAATcmG5yB6Ywhat03q5iXxJf77Vgv9r4z5935X-+Yub08XhRrg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAATcmG5yB6Ywhat03q5iXxJf77Vgv9r4z5935X-+Yub08XhRrg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8b8676d1-9e9d-0538-be4f-9b6b93b5943a@gmail.com>

Le 02/03/2020 ? 09:56, Peter Bauer a ?crit?:
> Hello,
> 2.3.2020:
> $git clone --depth=1 https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas.git
> Building was ok
> 
> $gambas3 -V
> 3.14.90
> gbx3: warning: circular references detected:
> gbx3: ? ? 3 Process
> 
> Best Regards,
> Peter
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

I just fixed that in master.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  2 14:24:05 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 14:24:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] GAMBAS download
In-Reply-To: <227EFA06-8AF2-40A8-83D9-63CB14800D41@mac.com>
References: <227EFA06-8AF2-40A8-83D9-63CB14800D41@mac.com>
Message-ID: <38e7ed07-dbce-a882-d9cb-5bc45f006fb9@gmail.com>

Le 01/03/2020 ? 22:49, Fred Steadman via User a ?crit?:
> Does your software only work on Linex?
> 
> I?m running that version of Unix that is accessed in the terminal 
> application of iMac ?El Capitan?. Following is a log of my initial 
> attempts to download and build GAMBAS on my system. It appears I?m 
> missing a couple of pieces.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
> 

Have you read the "Compilation & Installation" [1] page on the wiki?

[1] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 16:02:54 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 16:02:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions about String.PadRight
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbUOfp2kkoLoPdFor2NsCm6mtbEGEQvjwtqjPYmWoHUFA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I think he wasn't born to do this, but...
Is this correct, being the first on the right and the second on the left of
format?
And instead the strange results of the last two Print (1086.10 and 6.186.1)?

[code]
Public Sub Main()

  Dim s As String = "The result of multiplication is "
  Dim e As Integer = String.Len(s)
  Dim sResult As String = CStr(myResult(12.3, 7))
  Dim i As Integer = String.Len(sResult)

  ' don't takes format into account --->
  ' The result of multiplication is 6,10
  Print String.PadRight(s, (e + i), Format(sResult, ",#.00"))
  ' OK                              --->
  ' The result of multiplication is 86,10
  Print String.PadRight(s, (e + i + 1), Format(sResult, ",#.00"))
  ' takes format into account       --->
  ' The result of multiplication is 86,10
  Print String.PadRight(s, (e + i + 1), Format(sResult, "$,#.00"))
  ' OK                              --->
  ' The result of multiplication is ? 86,10
  Print String.PadRight(s, (e + i + 3), Format(sResult, "$,#.00"))
  ' --------------------------------------------------------------
  ' ???
  Print String.PadRight(s, (e + i + 3), Format(sResult, ",#.00"))
  ' ???
  Print String.PadRight(s, (e + i + 3), sResult)

End

Private Function myResult(a As Float, b As Float) As Float

  Return a * b

End
[/code]

Regards
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Mar  3 16:21:01 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 16:21:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] A couple of questions about String.PadRight
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFbUOfp2kkoLoPdFor2NsCm6mtbEGEQvjwtqjPYmWoHUFA@mail.gmail.com>
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Il giorno mar 3 mar 2020 alle ore 16:02 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

> Hi,
>
> I think he wasn't born to do this, but...
>

I answer myself: it is correct because the string is joined by reading it
from right to left :-)

Regards
Gianluigi
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From gbWilly at protonmail.com  Wed Mar  4 18:57:59 2020
From: gbWilly at protonmail.com (gbWilly)
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2020 17:57:59 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Update ide Package module for shared libraries,
 Make installation packages to have preinst and postinst scripts
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Hi Brian,


??????? Original Message ???????
On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 5:59 PM, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:

> The problem is that the name of the package changes like this
> westwood-testexec_7.14.9-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> westwood-testexec_7.14.8-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> westwood-testexec_4.14.7-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> etc
>
> The package name is only considered to the first _ and the rest is versioning
>
> So no mater what major(also considered interface version for shared libraries), minor, release number
> Debian deletes all older versions and replaces it with the newer version. Applications depending on the older version of the interface will now fail.
> If you try to install the older version, it will tell you that the newest is already installed.

This is exactly the behavior I want and I wouldn't like it to be different.
I work a lot with Gambas libraries in a production environment.

My new library versions are meant to replace the older ones.
Thing is, you make sure that your changes in the new library are backward compatible so they don't mess up the applications using them.

So that means for example that if existing methods get a new argument it is always optional.
If I don't want that optional argument, I check all applications using this method (simple search in the IDE will do that), change them accordingly and redistribute them.

Pretty strait forward in my opinion.


> I would like to propose that the major version number become part of a library name as this
>
> westwood-testexec4_4.14.7-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>
> This allows the Major/Inteface number to control the package name for libraries and therefore allow the development and implementation in a production environment of newer versions of the interface. and the slow adoption for older applications to the new interface.
>
> This change for Libraries to the naming

You proposition in my case would mean that a library would have a name + number added by the packager (say it is named MyLib) and the deb would be mylib1_1.0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
My application (name it MyApp) would thus actually be dependend on MyLib1 (instead of MyLib).
If I create a new major version of the MyLib package (deb would then be named mylib2_2.0.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb).
So, I would also have to change the dependency in MyApp to make it work with MyLib2 (instead of MyLib1).
This to me is an undesired behavior, as that means I would always have to update all applications using a the library and redistribute them to make them work with the newer library.

If you really would like to work in this manner simply name your library with the added major version number.
So name your first version MyLib1 being version 1.0.0
Every update within 1 version (so 1.0.1, 1.1.20 etc) you stick to the name MyLib1

Once you go to a newer major version that is no longer backward compatible name the library MyLib2 (being version 2.0.0, 2.0.1, 2.1.20 etc.)
Older applications depending on MyLib1 will not be bother by the MyLib2 update as the libraries are considered by the OS as different packages (since they have different names).
Both MyLib1 and MyLib2 will live alongside each other and older applications would need to be refurbished and redistributed to make them work with the major version 2 of your library.

This way the default expected behavior of how packages and dependencies work in a Debian/Ubuntu environment would still be met.

Just my two cents,

gbWilly





From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  4 20:01:15 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 20:01:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Update ide Package module for shared libraries,
 Make installation packages to have preinst and postinst scripts
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Le 04/03/2020 ? 18:57, gbWilly via User a ?crit :
> Hi Brian,
> 
> 
> ??????? Original Message ??????? On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 5:59
> PM, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:
> 
>> The problem is that the name of the package changes like this 
>> westwood-testexec_7.14.9-0ubuntu1_all.deb 
>> westwood-testexec_7.14.8-0ubuntu1_all.deb 
>> westwood-testexec_4.14.7-0ubuntu1_all.deb etc
>> 
>> The package name is only considered to the first _ and the rest is
>> versioning
>> 
>> So no mater what major(also considered interface version for shared
>> libraries), minor, release number Debian deletes all older versions
>> and replaces it with the newer version. Applications depending on
>> the older version of the interface will now fail. If you try to
>> install the older version, it will tell you that the newest is
>> already installed.
> 
> This is exactly the behavior I want and I wouldn't like it to be
> different. I work a lot with Gambas libraries in a production
> environment.
> 
> My new library versions are meant to replace the older ones. Thing
> is, you make sure that your changes in the new library are backward
> compatible so they don't mess up the applications using them.
> 
> So that means for example that if existing methods get a new argument
> it is always optional. If I don't want that optional argument, I
> check all applications using this method (simple search in the IDE
> will do that), change them accordingly and redistribute them.
> 
> Pretty strait forward in my opinion.
> 
> 
>> I would like to propose that the major version number become part
>> of a library name as this
>> 
>> westwood-testexec4_4.14.7-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>> 
>> This allows the Major/Inteface number to control the package name
>> for libraries and therefore allow the development and
>> implementation in a production environment of newer versions of the
>> interface. and the slow adoption for older applications to the new
>> interface.
>> 
>> This change for Libraries to the naming
> 
> You proposition in my case would mean that a library would have a
> name + number added by the packager (say it is named MyLib) and the
> deb would be mylib1_1.0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb My application (name it
> MyApp) would thus actually be dependend on MyLib1 (instead of
> MyLib). If I create a new major version of the MyLib package (deb
> would then be named mylib2_2.0.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb). So, I would also
> have to change the dependency in MyApp to make it work with MyLib2
> (instead of MyLib1). This to me is an undesired behavior, as that
> means I would always have to update all applications using a the
> library and redistribute them to make them work with the newer
> library.
> 
> If you really would like to work in this manner simply name your
> library with the added major version number. So name your first
> version MyLib1 being version 1.0.0 Every update within 1 version (so
> 1.0.1, 1.1.20 etc) you stick to the name MyLib1
> 
> Once you go to a newer major version that is no longer backward
> compatible name the library MyLib2 (being version 2.0.0, 2.0.1,
> 2.1.20 etc.) Older applications depending on MyLib1 will not be
> bother by the MyLib2 update as the libraries are considered by the OS
> as different packages (since they have different names). Both MyLib1
> and MyLib2 will live alongside each other and older applications
> would need to be refurbished and redistributed to make them work with
> the major version 2 of your library.
> 
> This way the default expected behavior of how packages and
> dependencies work in a Debian/Ubuntu environment would still be met.
> 
> Just my two cents,
> 
> gbWilly
> 

I mostly agree with you... What I could do is adding an option that add 
the major version to the project name when making the package. But the 
simpler is what you say: put the major version directly in the project name.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From chrisml at deganius.de  Fri Mar  6 09:35:25 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 09:35:25 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.test
In-Reply-To: <6a02e399-32fa-6dc1-3fe6-1e1fca485b80@deganius.de>
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Hi,

in master there are now gb.test and gb.test.tap. These two play well
together as far as I can see. But a part of the functionality has
disappeared and must therefore be restored:

Now in Testme.Main()

UnitTest.Main("TestFailures", Null, True, True)

stops the program without output.

Instead it has to report errors and crashes inside the tested project
and run through until the end. Every test in it has to report "not ok"
and some diagnostics.

This has to be done by encapsulating every "Object.Call" in gb.test with
"Try" in a way like this:

-------------------------------------------------------------
Try Object.Call(...
If Error Then
   Assert.Ok(False, "Raised error: " & Error.Text)
   Error.Clear
End If
-------------------------------------------------------------

Also it should report the place where the error happened.

So that errors and crashes in testcode and tested code are reported as
"not ok" but errors in gb.test itself lead to a bailout.

Who wants to restore it? Should I do it?

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Mar  6 09:52:47 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 09:52:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.test and gb.test.tap
Message-ID: <ae60e2db-cd99-48ab-034c-8cbcea81cfd2@gmail.com>

Hi,

Is there a reason why 'gb.test.tap' is compiled before 'gb.test'? (see 
'comp/src/order')

It seems not logical, unless these two components are completely 
independent?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From chrisml at deganius.de  Fri Mar  6 11:06:46 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 11:06:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.test and gb.test.tap
In-Reply-To: <ae60e2db-cd99-48ab-034c-8cbcea81cfd2@gmail.com>
References: <ae60e2db-cd99-48ab-034c-8cbcea81cfd2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00753f28-7d0a-eea0-6377-a8c5116806cd@deganius.de>

Am 06.03.20 um 09:52 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> Is there a reason why 'gb.test.tap' is compiled before 'gb.test'? (see 
> 'comp/src/order')
> 
> It seems not logical, unless these two components are completely 
> independent?

We will have to rethink dependencies ...
(please forget my Flowchart)

This is what I think now, IMO:

* gb.test should contain Assert.

* Assert should be a module not a class
  (we do not need an object being Assert).

* gb.test.tap should contain gb.test as component
  and should provide its Unittest() like that:

  Unittest(Tests as String, Optional Values ... )

  The variable "Tests" is a comma separated string
  of testmodules and testmethods.

Because:

Maybe we later want to have another output module for testing instead of
gb.test.tap? Imagine things like that:

gb.test.db -> writes test output into a database
gb.test.log -> hands over to syslog
gb.test.monitor -> hands over to a monitoring system
gb.test.csv -> writes tests output to a csv file

Or someone can write it's own testing system.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Mar  7 01:03:30 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 01:03:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYbotW=DyXwg+pp8QaOnXrFrPP6tHnGSB5AQxkdAjLvhg@mail.gmail.com>

Having obtained two git merge --abort and having complicated my life by
following these GitLab tips:

Step 1. Fetch and check out the branch for this merge request
git fetch "https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas.git" "italian-translations"
git checkout -b "GianluigiOr/gambas-italian-translations" FETCH_HEAD
Step 2. Review the changes locally
Step 3. Merge the branch and fix any conflicts that come up
git fetch origin
git checkout "origin/master"
git merge --no-ff "GianluigiOr/gambas-italian-translations"
Step 4. Push the result of the merge to GitLab
git push origin "master"

without getting results...

I tried to delete Gambas from my remote repository (I had already done this
successfully in the past)
 1 -I went to my GitLab remote and I am accredited (Sign in)
 2 -I clicked on the personal project
 3 -On the left browser I clicked on Settings > General
 4 -I scrolled the page all the way down to see Advanced
 5 -I clicked on Expand
 6 -At the bottom there is the red Remove project button I clicked on it.
 7 -I confirmed the choice in a dialog by writing the name of the project
in the appropriate text box.
Unfortunately things have changed and a project can be eliminated only
after a week of reflection, hoping to speed up the times I eliminated the
Fork but without the desired result.
I reset Gambas from a special button but the fork would not know how to do
it (no button).

After this attempt, I deleted the repository on my disk, then gave the
following commands:

gian at gian:~$ git clone git at gitlab.com:GianluigiOr/gambas.git
gian at gian:~$ cd gambas
gian at gian:~/gambas$ git remote add upstream
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas.git
gian at gian:~/gambas$ git branch italian-translations
gian at gian:~/gambas$ git checkout italian-translations
gian at gian:~/gambas$ git pull
There is no tracking information for the current branch.
Please specify which branch you want to merge with.
See git-pull(1) for details.

    git pull <remote> <branch>

If you wish to set tracking information for this branch you can do so with:

    git branch --set-upstream-to=<remote>/<branch> italian-translations

gian at gian:~/gambas$ git pull upstream master
remote: Enumerating objects: 562, done.
remote: Counting objects: 100% (562/562), done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (241/241), done.
remote: Total 562 (delta 318), reused 562 (delta 318), pack-reused 0
Ricezione degli oggetti: 100% (562/562), 566.49 KiB | 1.11 MiB/s, done.
Risoluzione dei delta: 100% (318/318), completed with 43 local objects.
Da https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas
 * branch                master     -> FETCH_HEAD
 * [nuovo branch]        master     -> upstream/master
Aggiornamento di 516de91f9..d0650b8de
error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by
merge:
app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po
Please commit your changes or stash them before you merge.
Aborting
gian at gian:~/gambas$ git status
Sul branch italian-translations
Changes not staged for commit:
  (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
  (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)

modified:   app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po

no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
gian at gian:~/gambas$ git add app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po
gian at gian:~/gambas$ git pull upstream master
Da https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas
 * branch                master     -> FETCH_HEAD
Aggiornamento di 516de91f9..d0650b8de
error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by
merge:
app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po
Please commit your changes or stash them before you merge.
Aborting
gian at gian:~/gambas$ git commit
[italian-translations a5b487f52] Contains new IDE Italian translations
 1 file changed, 458 insertions(+), 275 deletions(-)
gian at gian:~/gambas$ git push
fatal: Il branch corrente italian-translations non ha alcun branch upstream.
Per eseguire il push del branch corrente ed impostare remote come upstream,
usa

    git push --set-upstream origin italian-translations

gian at gian:~/gambas$ git push --set-upstream origin italian-translations
To gitlab.com:GianluigiOr/gambas.git
 ! [rejected]            italian-translations -> italian-translations
(non-fast-forward)
error: failed to push some refs to 'git at gitlab.com:GianluigiOr/gambas.git'
suggerimento: Updates were rejected because the tip of your current branch
is behind
suggerimento: its remote counterpart. Integrate the remote changes (e.g.
suggerimento: 'git pull ...') before pushing again.
suggerimento: See the 'Note about fast-forwards' in 'git push --help' for
details.

Now I find myself with a repository one year backwards and I don't know
what to do.

Any suggestions other than giving up on git?

Regards & Good night
Gianluigi
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Sat Mar  7 02:27:44 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 03:27:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug in latest revision
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7Tqb9d+D5Cz_8NU-Zy7OwDoBxPK=q8Mqcp2i-3JHx9v9A@mail.gmail.com>

Please run the attached project. When JIT is enable the bug disappears.
Not sure how old this bug is, because I had not compiled Gambas for awhile.


Jussi
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From pebauer68 at gmail.com  Sat Mar  7 12:31:41 2020
From: pebauer68 at gmail.com (Peter Bauer)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 12:31:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.14.90 dev version and
 TerminalView(gb.form.terminal)
Message-ID: <CAATcmG50P1vKq6qacuakGEATVFq3-WsaEF5WwysfJL8vBADcpA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I have seen that the apps terminal(terminal in seven lines of code) and
gb.terminal in different versions do no longer work as expected with gambas
dev version 3.14.90 as of Friday 6.3.2020.
Both Applications are using the TerminalView Control.
error description:
-> the return key is accepted only once when you start terminal or
gb.terminal, then you always have to press the return key twice.
to reproduce just type: ls -l <Return> in terminal

With stable Gambas version 3.14.3 no problems.

Best Regards,
Peter Bauer
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Mar  7 12:52:37 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 12:52:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.14.90 dev version and
 TerminalView(gb.form.terminal)
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Le 07/03/2020 ? 12:31, Peter Bauer a ?crit?:
> Hello,
> I have seen that the apps terminal(terminal in seven lines of code) and 
> gb.terminal in different versions do no longer work as expected with 
> gambas dev version 3.14.90 as of Friday 6.3.2020.
> Both Applications are using the TerminalView Control.
> error description:
> -> the return key is accepted only once when you start terminal or 
> gb.terminal, then you always have to press the return key twice.
> to reproduce just type: ls -l <Return> in terminal
> 
> With stable Gambas version 3.14.3 no problems.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Peter Bauer
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

I can't reproduce the behaviour you describe. Please give information 
about your system (from the corresponding IDE menu).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Mar  7 14:21:27 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 14:21:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYbotW=DyXwg+pp8QaOnXrFrPP6tHnGSB5AQxkdAjLvhg@mail.gmail.com>
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Il giorno sab 7 mar 2020 alle ore 01:03 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

> ...
>

After solving various conflicts and pulling "italian-translations" this is
my situation on my remote:
---------------------------------------------
gian at gian:~/gambas$ LANG=C git status
On branch italian-translations
Your branch is ahead of 'origin/italian-translations' by 497 commits.
  (use "git push" to publish your local commits)

Changes not staged for commit:
  (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
  (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)

modified:   app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po

no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
-----------------------------------------------------

See also here gitk image https://paste.c-net.org/WalkmanLeveled

Any suggestions on how to proceed?

Regards
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sat Mar  7 23:40:33 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 23:40:33 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Am 07.03.20 um 14:21 schrieb Gianluigi:

> Il giorno sab 7 mar 2020 alle ore 01:03 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com
> <mailto:bagonergi at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
>     ...
> 
> ?
> After solving various conflicts and pulling "italian-translations" this
> is my situation on my remote:
> ---------------------------------------------
> gian at gian:~/gambas$ LANG=C git status
> On branch italian-translations
> Your branch is ahead of 'origin/italian-translations' by 497 commits.

Hmm, this looks a bit weird.

> ? (use "git push" to publish your local commits)
> 
> Changes not staged for commit:
> ? (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
> ? (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)
> 
> modified: ? app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po
> 
> no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
> -----------------------------------------------------
> 
> See also here gitk image https://paste.c-net.org/WalkmanLeveled
> 
> Any suggestions on how to proceed?

In situations I do not understand any more I do this:
(be careful, not tested!)

I copy the whole workdir to another place to backup my work.

$ cp -r ./gambas /var/tmp
(be careful, not tested!!!!)

Then I do

$ cd ./gambas
$ git stash
to put my changes out of the way

Then I checkout an older version, for instance
$ git checkout bfc455070e9b94dd7

Then pull

$ git pull
$ git checkout master

-------------------------

Now there is the current version on the computer.

-------------------------

After that you can copy the backup over this version, then commit and
push your changes as usual.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Mar  7 23:40:19 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 14:40:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Update ide Package module for shared libraries,
 Make installation packages to have preinst and postinst scripts
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I think I agree.

Thank You
Brian G

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beno?t Minisini" <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: "Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 11:01:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Update ide Package module for shared libraries, Make installation packages to have preinst and postinst scripts

Le 04/03/2020 ? 18:57, gbWilly via User a ?crit :
> Hi Brian,
> 
> 
> ??????? Original Message ??????? On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 5:59
> PM, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:
> 
>> The problem is that the name of the package changes like this 
>> westwood-testexec_7.14.9-0ubuntu1_all.deb 
>> westwood-testexec_7.14.8-0ubuntu1_all.deb 
>> westwood-testexec_4.14.7-0ubuntu1_all.deb etc
>> 
>> The package name is only considered to the first _ and the rest is
>> versioning
>> 
>> So no mater what major(also considered interface version for shared
>> libraries), minor, release number Debian deletes all older versions
>> and replaces it with the newer version. Applications depending on
>> the older version of the interface will now fail. If you try to
>> install the older version, it will tell you that the newest is
>> already installed.
> 
> This is exactly the behavior I want and I wouldn't like it to be
> different. I work a lot with Gambas libraries in a production
> environment.
> 
> My new library versions are meant to replace the older ones. Thing
> is, you make sure that your changes in the new library are backward
> compatible so they don't mess up the applications using them.
> 
> So that means for example that if existing methods get a new argument
> it is always optional. If I don't want that optional argument, I
> check all applications using this method (simple search in the IDE
> will do that), change them accordingly and redistribute them.
> 
> Pretty strait forward in my opinion.
> 
> 
>> I would like to propose that the major version number become part
>> of a library name as this
>> 
>> westwood-testexec4_4.14.7-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>> 
>> This allows the Major/Inteface number to control the package name
>> for libraries and therefore allow the development and
>> implementation in a production environment of newer versions of the
>> interface. and the slow adoption for older applications to the new
>> interface.
>> 
>> This change for Libraries to the naming
> 
> You proposition in my case would mean that a library would have a
> name + number added by the packager (say it is named MyLib) and the
> deb would be mylib1_1.0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb My application (name it
> MyApp) would thus actually be dependend on MyLib1 (instead of
> MyLib). If I create a new major version of the MyLib package (deb
> would then be named mylib2_2.0.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb). So, I would also
> have to change the dependency in MyApp to make it work with MyLib2
> (instead of MyLib1). This to me is an undesired behavior, as that
> means I would always have to update all applications using a the
> library and redistribute them to make them work with the newer
> library.
> 
> If you really would like to work in this manner simply name your
> library with the added major version number. So name your first
> version MyLib1 being version 1.0.0 Every update within 1 version (so
> 1.0.1, 1.1.20 etc) you stick to the name MyLib1
> 
> Once you go to a newer major version that is no longer backward
> compatible name the library MyLib2 (being version 2.0.0, 2.0.1,
> 2.1.20 etc.) Older applications depending on MyLib1 will not be
> bother by the MyLib2 update as the libraries are considered by the OS
> as different packages (since they have different names). Both MyLib1
> and MyLib2 will live alongside each other and older applications
> would need to be refurbished and redistributed to make them work with
> the major version 2 of your library.
> 
> This way the default expected behavior of how packages and
> dependencies work in a Debian/Ubuntu environment would still be met.
> 
> Just my two cents,
> 
> gbWilly
> 

I mostly agree with you... What I could do is adding an option that add 
the major version to the project name when making the package. But the 
simpler is what you say: put the major version directly in the project name.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  8 06:16:17 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 15:46:17 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
Message-ID: <ea046d3c-b634-ce12-efcd-f1fbd5786d94@gmail.com>

Firstly, I haven't tried this but I was wondering if it is possible.

Given a set of objects that have an ordinal characteristic (not a 
property of the object itself and not encountered in the ascending order 
of that characteristic) is it possible to construct an array of such 
objects that is only sparsely populated?

Let's say we have the following objects, with that derived 
characteristic in brackets: Ahab(3),Chab(6), Fhab(2) and Ghab(7).
I want to fill the array such that its' final representation is
[0] -
[1] -
[2] Fhab
[3] Ahab
[4] -
[5] -
[6] Chab
[7] Ghab

I don't know at the outset what the maximum ordinal value is and so I 
don't know the size of the array.
There are reasons for using an array rather than a collection keyed by 
the value.
The source of the objects is unsortable, they arrive over time in a 
random order.

Any thoughts?
b

p.s. It's like the IP layer in TCP/IP putting the packets back in order 
to rebuild the entire message.

From pebauer68 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  8 10:02:57 2020
From: pebauer68 at gmail.com (Peter Bauer)
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 10:02:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.14.90 dev version and
 TerminalView(gb.form.terminal)
Message-ID: <CAATcmG4mRCq8RNd5Y0E3T6vDn18=W=FE+093ofEfx5djYdnemQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Please find my system description below:
I have seen that terminal and gb.terminal in different versions do no
longer work as expected with gambas dev
 version 3.14.90 as of Friday the 6.3.2020.
error:
-> the return key is accepted only once when you start gb.terminal, then
you always have to press the return key twice.
to reproduce just type: ls -l <Return> _several times_ in gb.terminal
-> I discovered that the error happens when the output of the used command
is longer then the terminal size(height)

*Workaround:* After using the command "clear" the error disappears until
you reach the terminal height again.

Strange is that I can't reproduce the error with gb.form.terminal in the
IDE.

Best Regards,
Peter

[System]
Gambas=3.14.90 d0650b8de (master)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=4.15.0-88-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS
Desktop=MATE
Theme=Fusion
Language=en_US.UTF-8
Memory=15868M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11510.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.5.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.4
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1405.0
GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2200.30
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.0.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.57.0.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.73.0.0
QT4=libQtCore.so.4.8.7
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.9.5
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6

[Environment]
COMPIZ_CONFIG_PROFILE=mate
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-6GEVIk7c3h,guid=7ecb0cae40ffa8b614df1df65e5cc0f6
DESKTOP_SESSION=mate
DISPLAY=:0
GB_GUI=gb.qt5
GDMSESSION=mate
GDM_LANG=en
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=<home>/Schreibtisch/Gambas3.desktop
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=3543
GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
HOME=<home>
INSIDE_CAJA_PYTHON=
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_NAME=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_TIME=de_AT.UTF-8
LOGNAME=<user>
MATE_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
PAPERSIZE=a4
PATH=<home>/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin:/usr/local/lib/node_modules/:<home>/rakudo/rakudo-2020.01/bin/:<home>/bin:<home>/rakudo/rakudo-2020.01/share/perl6/site/bin:<home>/rakudo/rakudo-2020.01/
PWD=<home>
QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0
QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1
SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/4294,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4294
SHELL=/bin/bash
SHLVL=0
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
TEXTDOMAIN=lightdm
TZ=:/etc/localtime
USER=<user>
XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-mate:/etc/xdg
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=MATE
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/mate:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/var/lib/snapd/desktop
XDG_GREETER_DATA_DIR=/var/lib/lightdm-data/<user>
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=mate
XDG_SESSION_ID=c2
XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
XDG_VTNR=7
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From pebauer68 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  8 11:01:44 2020
From: pebauer68 at gmail.com (Peter Bauer)
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 11:01:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.14.90 dev version and
 TerminalView(gb.form.terminal)
Message-ID: <CAATcmG66xk2Eak2kHp0C8u5CnDpMHU5kRPkwYrk8ecJdFOQPLg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I have done Git synchronize, a compile, compile all and make exec of
TerminalView in the IDE.
Now also term and gb.terminal are working as expected.

BR,
Peter
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Mar  8 15:09:33 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 07:09:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Update ide Package module for shared libraries,
 Make installation packages to have preinst and postinst scripts
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I agree with gbwilly with his concern, But don't think I have been clear enough regarding
what I would like to see.

What I am talking about is allowing the major version number of the shared library to control the name of the package
to be changed such that their could be available to an application developer  multiple versions of the library.

This does not change the library name.

Nor would it at all change the dependency chain of your install package or older versions of the app being reinstalled 
as both versions would be available to resolve dependencies during the install.

Both

company.bogolib.1.0.0
and
company.bogolib.2.0.0 

Are available now, the original apps dependencies are unchanged and resolve correctly.

I don't believe you can link a libc:10 lib with a cc4 compiled and developed app and have it work correctly. 
But developers don't usually like the lib name to change, when the environment is updated.

I does in fact allow you to control the version of interface your application uses.

If you need your old app to use the old version of a library
don't change the major version number for that apps version of the library during bug fixes and changes. 

Update the minor version numbers of the library after the changes to it. That way you Stay compatible.

But when you release a updated version of your app that requires a lib with some not compatible changes to the interface 
enhancing the performance/ability etc then it is time to bump the major number and release the
app with the bumped interface number. 

This In fact allows your older version app to happily co-exist with the new one. And even be reinstalled. 
And future change and bug fixes to the library without issues. 

If in the future you would like your old App to use the new library for some reason then it is time to update it. 
In this case you are in fact releasing a new version of the app. 

So maybe its dependency chain should be updated.

Are All your shared libraries open source? 

I am not trying to make anyone's life more difficult here. I am only trying to smooth the over all development cycle and app redevelopment
cycle.

Also it allows the release of publicly available libraries with interface specs that can be changed and the app builder/designer can decide to upgrade
or not to the new super duper version of the library for his new release without compromising the existing installed or reinstalled base.

I really believe that this would be a useful and well used tool during the development and release cycle.

I have added the ability for the scripter to use only the major release number for shared libraries. Today I thought the ide had to select a specific
version of the library to link with. Maybe I don't understand well enough. Components don't care about the release information just the gambas version
but shared libraries depend on the release information in the ide.

As an aside, when we go to gambas4 with a different byte code for example, the shared lib for that version of gambas would get a major version bump.
but your gambas3 apps could still be used with the original library, etc.

Well that's my two cent from my many years in application development and system level development experience.

I would still like the change as originally asked for adding the major release number to the package name , not the library name.

Thank You
Brian G

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <brian at westwoodsvcs.com>
To: "Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 2:40:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Update ide Package module for shared libraries, Make installation packages to have preinst and postinst scripts

I think I agree.

Thank You
Brian G

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beno?t Minisini" <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: "Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 11:01:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Update ide Package module for shared libraries, Make installation packages to have preinst and postinst scripts

Le 04/03/2020 ? 18:57, gbWilly via User a ?crit :
> Hi Brian,
> 
> 
> ??????? Original Message ??????? On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 5:59
> PM, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:
> 
>> The problem is that the name of the package changes like this 
>> westwood-testexec_7.14.9-0ubuntu1_all.deb 
>> westwood-testexec_7.14.8-0ubuntu1_all.deb 
>> westwood-testexec_4.14.7-0ubuntu1_all.deb etc
>> 
>> The package name is only considered to the first _ and the rest is
>> versioning
>> 
>> So no mater what major(also considered interface version for shared
>> libraries), minor, release number Debian deletes all older versions
>> and replaces it with the newer version. Applications depending on
>> the older version of the interface will now fail. If you try to
>> install the older version, it will tell you that the newest is
>> already installed.
> 
> This is exactly the behavior I want and I wouldn't like it to be
> different. I work a lot with Gambas libraries in a production
> environment.
> 
> My new library versions are meant to replace the older ones. Thing
> is, you make sure that your changes in the new library are backward
> compatible so they don't mess up the applications using them.
> 
> So that means for example that if existing methods get a new argument
> it is always optional. If I don't want that optional argument, I
> check all applications using this method (simple search in the IDE
> will do that), change them accordingly and redistribute them.
> 
> Pretty strait forward in my opinion.
> 
> 
>> I would like to propose that the major version number become part
>> of a library name as this
>> 
>> westwood-testexec4_4.14.7-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>> 
>> This allows the Major/Inteface number to control the package name
>> for libraries and therefore allow the development and
>> implementation in a production environment of newer versions of the
>> interface. and the slow adoption for older applications to the new
>> interface.
>> 
>> This change for Libraries to the naming
> 
> You proposition in my case would mean that a library would have a
> name + number added by the packager (say it is named MyLib) and the
> deb would be mylib1_1.0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb My application (name it
> MyApp) would thus actually be dependend on MyLib1 (instead of
> MyLib). If I create a new major version of the MyLib package (deb
> would then be named mylib2_2.0.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb). So, I would also
> have to change the dependency in MyApp to make it work with MyLib2
> (instead of MyLib1). This to me is an undesired behavior, as that
> means I would always have to update all applications using a the
> library and redistribute them to make them work with the newer
> library.
> 
> If you really would like to work in this manner simply name your
> library with the added major version number. So name your first
> version MyLib1 being version 1.0.0 Every update within 1 version (so
> 1.0.1, 1.1.20 etc) you stick to the name MyLib1
> 
> Once you go to a newer major version that is no longer backward
> compatible name the library MyLib2 (being version 2.0.0, 2.0.1,
> 2.1.20 etc.) Older applications depending on MyLib1 will not be
> bother by the MyLib2 update as the libraries are considered by the OS
> as different packages (since they have different names). Both MyLib1
> and MyLib2 will live alongside each other and older applications
> would need to be refurbished and redistributed to make them work with
> the major version 2 of your library.
> 
> This way the default expected behavior of how packages and
> dependencies work in a Debian/Ubuntu environment would still be met.
> 
> Just my two cents,
> 
> gbWilly
> 

I mostly agree with you... What I could do is adding an option that add 
the major version to the project name when making the package. But the 
simpler is what you say: put the major version directly in the project name.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Sun Mar  8 19:36:04 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 20:36:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
In-Reply-To: <ea046d3c-b634-ce12-efcd-f1fbd5786d94@gmail.com>
References: <ea046d3c-b634-ce12-efcd-f1fbd5786d94@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7TzW9g8+ynHCAbFQn2hvqPECD3eiNTBo4AtBbKFeopM9Q@mail.gmail.com>

Can you open bit more why using collection is out of the question?

Jussi

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 7:16 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Firstly, I haven't tried this but I was wondering if it is possible.
>
> Given a set of objects that have an ordinal characteristic (not a
> property of the object itself and not encountered in the ascending order
> of that characteristic) is it possible to construct an array of such
> objects that is only sparsely populated?
>
> Let's say we have the following objects, with that derived
> characteristic in brackets: Ahab(3),Chab(6), Fhab(2) and Ghab(7).
> I want to fill the array such that its' final representation is
> [0] -
> [1] -
> [2] Fhab
> [3] Ahab
> [4] -
> [5] -
> [6] Chab
> [7] Ghab
>
> I don't know at the outset what the maximum ordinal value is and so I
> don't know the size of the array.
> There are reasons for using an array rather than a collection keyed by
> the value.
> The source of the objects is unsortable, they arrive over time in a
> random order.
>
> Any thoughts?
> b
>
> p.s. It's like the IP layer in TCP/IP putting the packets back in order
> to rebuild the entire message.
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Mar  8 23:07:54 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 23:07:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
In-Reply-To: <2e5caea9-da8a-903a-2483-d8723d315d96@deganius.de>
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Il giorno sab 7 mar 2020 alle ore 23:41 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 07.03.20 um 14:21 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
> > Il giorno sab 7 mar 2020 alle ore 01:03 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com
> > <mailto:bagonergi at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> >
> >     ...
> >
> >
> > After solving various conflicts and pulling "italian-translations" this
> > is my situation on my remote:
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > gian at gian:~/gambas$ LANG=C git status
> > On branch italian-translations
> > Your branch is ahead of 'origin/italian-translations' by 497 commits.
>
> Hmm, this looks a bit weird.
>
> >   (use "git push" to publish your local commits)
> >
> > Changes not staged for commit:
> >   (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
> >   (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working
> directory)
> >
> > modified:   app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po
> >
> > no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > See also here gitk image https://paste.c-net.org/WalkmanLeveled
> >
> > Any suggestions on how to proceed?
>
> In situations I do not understand any more I do this:
> (be careful, not tested!)
>
> I copy the whole workdir to another place to backup my work.
>
> $ cp -r ./gambas /var/tmp
> (be careful, not tested!!!!)
>
> Then I do
>
> $ cd ./gambas
> $ git stash
> to put my changes out of the way
>
> Then I checkout an older version, for instance
> $ git checkout bfc455070e9b94dd7
>
> Then pull
>
> $ git pull
> $ git checkout master
>
> -------------------------
>
> Now there is the current version on the computer.
>
> -------------------------
>
> After that you can copy the backup over this version, then commit and
> push your changes as usual.
>
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

Hi Christof,
sorry I'm late, but I did a thousand tests based on your suggestions
These are the last commands given:

$ cd ./gambas
$ git clone git at gitlab.com:GianluigiOr/gambas.git
$ cd ./gambas
$ git stash
$ git checkout 0a63c136765a50bb92c9c37972f05a638dfed753
$ git pull (ERROR)
You are not currently on a branch.
Please specify which branch you want to merge with.
See git-pull(1) for details.

$ git checkout -b italian-traslations
$ git pull --rebase origin/master (ERROR)
$ git remote add upstream https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas.git
$ git pull --rebase upstream master
$ git status
$ git checkout -- app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po
$ exit
MAKED TRANSLATIONS
$ cd ./gambas
$ git status
$ git add app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po
$ git commit
$ git push (ERROR)
$ git push --set-upstream origin italian-traslations

This is the current situation on my remote:
https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas/-/commits/65dd322acf1f6e66c4b4db6ebf7fda488a29c092

I noticed that the italian-translations branch is no longer on origin

This is the last gitk:
https://paste.c-net.org/StubbornPhoebe

Regards & Goodnight
Gianluigi
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  8 23:38:11 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 09:08:11 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7TzW9g8+ynHCAbFQn2hvqPECD3eiNTBo4AtBbKFeopM9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ea046d3c-b634-ce12-efcd-f1fbd5786d94@gmail.com>
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Much existing code uses the (full) array. The sparse situation occurs 
perhaps <5% of the time and represents "changes" to the existing set 
already present in the full array. I suppose that I could detect that 
the incoming messages represent changes and handle that as a temporary 
collection but then I'd have to clone and modify many methods that 
already exist in both applications and libraries (with the concomitant 
danger to both the current development and the ongoning support...

The damn problem is that I cant process the change messages one by one, 
the entire set of original objects is affected by the entire set of 
changes.  And the changes must be done in an atomic sense because while 
one change set is building another (different) change set may start to 
arrive. Grrrr.
b

On 9/3/20 5:06 am, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> Can you open bit more why using collection is out of the question?
> 
> Jussi
> 
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 7:16 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:adamnt42 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Firstly, I haven't tried this but I was wondering if it is possible.
> 
>     Given a set of objects that have an ordinal characteristic (not a
>     property of the object itself and not encountered in the ascending
>     order
>     of that characteristic) is it possible to construct an array of such
>     objects that is only sparsely populated?
> 
>     Let's say we have the following objects, with that derived
>     characteristic in brackets: Ahab(3),Chab(6), Fhab(2) and Ghab(7).
>     I want to fill the array such that its' final representation is
>     [0] -
>     [1] -
>     [2] Fhab
>     [3] Ahab
>     [4] -
>     [5] -
>     [6] Chab
>     [7] Ghab
> 
>     I don't know at the outset what the maximum ordinal value is and so I
>     don't know the size of the array.
>     There are reasons for using an array rather than a collection keyed by
>     the value.
>     The source of the objects is unsortable, they arrive over time in a
>     random order.
> 
>     Any thoughts?
>     b
> 
>     p.s. It's like the IP layer in TCP/IP putting the packets back in order
>     to rebuild the entire message.
> 
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 02:24:16 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 03:24:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
In-Reply-To: <24d7f01a-19b3-a14b-f75c-e9b1d955ab00@gmail.com>
References: <ea046d3c-b634-ce12-efcd-f1fbd5786d94@gmail.com>
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There rarely are good answers to questions like that without seeing the
code. But it seems I would use the normal dynamic object arrays.
Dim hArr As New Object[]

Fill the array with null objects up to known biggest value.
hArr.Insert(hTempArr.Resize(iBiggestValue))

And then just add the object. Unless the value is already within the max
index, then just add.


Jussi


On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 12:38 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Much existing code uses the (full) array. The sparse situation occurs
> perhaps <5% of the time and represents "changes" to the existing set
> already present in the full array. I suppose that I could detect that
> the incoming messages represent changes and handle that as a temporary
> collection but then I'd have to clone and modify many methods that
> already exist in both applications and libraries (with the concomitant
> danger to both the current development and the ongoning support...
>
> The damn problem is that I cant process the change messages one by one,
> the entire set of original objects is affected by the entire set of
> changes.  And the changes must be done in an atomic sense because while
> one change set is building another (different) change set may start to
> arrive. Grrrr.
> b
>
> On 9/3/20 5:06 am, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> > Can you open bit more why using collection is out of the question?
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 7:16 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:adamnt42 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Firstly, I haven't tried this but I was wondering if it is possible.
> >
> >     Given a set of objects that have an ordinal characteristic (not a
> >     property of the object itself and not encountered in the ascending
> >     order
> >     of that characteristic) is it possible to construct an array of such
> >     objects that is only sparsely populated?
> >
> >     Let's say we have the following objects, with that derived
> >     characteristic in brackets: Ahab(3),Chab(6), Fhab(2) and Ghab(7).
> >     I want to fill the array such that its' final representation is
> >     [0] -
> >     [1] -
> >     [2] Fhab
> >     [3] Ahab
> >     [4] -
> >     [5] -
> >     [6] Chab
> >     [7] Ghab
> >
> >     I don't know at the outset what the maximum ordinal value is and so I
> >     don't know the size of the array.
> >     There are reasons for using an array rather than a collection keyed
> by
> >     the value.
> >     The source of the objects is unsortable, they arrive over time in a
> >     random order.
> >
> >     Any thoughts?
> >     b
> >
> >     p.s. It's like the IP layer in TCP/IP putting the packets back in
> order
> >     to rebuild the entire message.
> >
> >     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 02:30:34 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 12:00:34 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7TH_oZvGJSKcD3KsKh9crqCEQ6QqPAasonQpUYA8E=R2A@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Jussi,
I think I will go that way.
b
p.s. You don't want to see this code. In fact I don't like looking at 
it. It grew without enough thought and incomplete requirements.
:-(
b

On 9/3/20 11:54 am, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> There rarely are good answers to questions like that without seeing the 
> code. But it seems I would use the normal dynamic object arrays.
> Dim hArr As New Object[]
> 
> Fill the array with null objects up to known biggest value.
> hArr.Insert(hTempArr.Resize(iBiggestValue))
> 
> And then just add the object. Unless the value is already within the max 
> index, then just add.
> 
> 
> Jussi
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 12:38 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:adamnt42 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Much existing code uses the (full) array. The sparse situation occurs
>     perhaps <5% of the time and represents "changes" to the existing set
>     already present in the full array. I suppose that I could detect that
>     the incoming messages represent changes and handle that as a temporary
>     collection but then I'd have to clone and modify many methods that
>     already exist in both applications and libraries (with the concomitant
>     danger to both the current development and the ongoning support...
> 
>     The damn problem is that I cant process the change messages one by one,
>     the entire set of original objects is affected by the entire set of
>     changes.? And the changes must be done in an atomic sense because while
>     one change set is building another (different) change set may start to
>     arrive. Grrrr.
>     b
> 
>     On 9/3/20 5:06 am, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>      > Can you open bit more why using collection is out of the question?
>      >
>      > Jussi
>      >
>      > On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 7:16 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:adamnt42 at gmail.com>
>      > <mailto:adamnt42 at gmail.com <mailto:adamnt42 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >? ? ?Firstly, I haven't tried this but I was wondering if it is
>     possible.
>      >
>      >? ? ?Given a set of objects that have an ordinal characteristic (not a
>      >? ? ?property of the object itself and not encountered in the
>     ascending
>      >? ? ?order
>      >? ? ?of that characteristic) is it possible to construct an array
>     of such
>      >? ? ?objects that is only sparsely populated?
>      >
>      >? ? ?Let's say we have the following objects, with that derived
>      >? ? ?characteristic in brackets: Ahab(3),Chab(6), Fhab(2) and Ghab(7).
>      >? ? ?I want to fill the array such that its' final representation is
>      >? ? ?[0] -
>      >? ? ?[1] -
>      >? ? ?[2] Fhab
>      >? ? ?[3] Ahab
>      >? ? ?[4] -
>      >? ? ?[5] -
>      >? ? ?[6] Chab
>      >? ? ?[7] Ghab
>      >
>      >? ? ?I don't know at the outset what the maximum ordinal value is
>     and so I
>      >? ? ?don't know the size of the array.
>      >? ? ?There are reasons for using an array rather than a collection
>     keyed by
>      >? ? ?the value.
>      >? ? ?The source of the objects is unsortable, they arrive over
>     time in a
>      >? ? ?random order.
>      >
>      >? ? ?Any thoughts?
>      >? ? ?b
>      >
>      >? ? ?p.s. It's like the IP layer in TCP/IP putting the packets
>     back in order
>      >? ? ?to rebuild the entire message.
>      >
>      >? ? ?----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>      >
> 
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 03:21:56 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 04:21:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
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> p.s. You don't want to see this code. In fact I don't like looking at
> it. It grew without enough thought and incomplete requirements.
>

Hah! I completely understand. That seem to be the case way too often.


Jussi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar  9 09:39:07 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 09:39:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Hello Gianluigi,

please quote only relevant things ... and not all ever happened.

Am 08.03.20 um 23:07 schrieb Gianluigi:

> sorry I'm late, but I did a thousand tests based on your suggestions
> These are the last commands given:
> ...
> $ git clone git at gitlab.com:GianluigiOr/gambas.git

Uh, I didn't know you are working with your own forked repo. This makes
it more complicated, and I doubt, that we could solve it by mail easily.
There are three repos involved, I believe:

upstream: https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas.git
origin: https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas
And the one on your computer.

Can you paste here the output of:

git status

And the content of .git/config in the Gambas directory on your computer.

> This is the current situation on my remote:
> https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas/-/commits/65dd322acf1f6e66c4b4db6ebf7fda488a29c092

There are two branches:
italian-traslations and italian-translations

> I noticed that the italian-translations branch is no longer on origin

> This is the last gitk:
> https://paste.c-net.org/StubbornPhoebe

You are on italian-traslations (with missing "n"!).

Ok, please send the things I needed and then I will have a look at it.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar  9 09:44:35 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 09:44:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
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Am 09.03.20 um 02:30 schrieb Bruce:

> p.s. You don't want to see this code. In fact I don't like looking at 
> it. It grew without enough thought and incomplete requirements.
> :-(

Then first do a refactoring until you like looking at the code. If you
enhance ugly code with ugly code it will only get worse.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 12:11:19 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 12:11:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 09:40 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Hello Gianluigi,
>
> please quote only relevant things ... and not all ever happened.
>

OK sorry

>
> Am 08.03.20 um 23:07 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
> > sorry I'm late, but I did a thousand tests based on your suggestions
> > These are the last commands given:
> > ...
> > $ git clone git at gitlab.com:GianluigiOr/gambas.git
>
> Uh, I didn't know you are working with your own forked repo. This makes
> it more complicated, and I doubt, that we could solve it by mail easily.
> There are three repos involved, I believe:
>
> upstream: https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas.git
> origin: https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas
> And the one on your computer.
>
> Can you paste here the output of:
>
> git status
>
> $ LANG=C git status
On branch italian-traslations
Your branch is up to date with 'origin/italian-traslations'.

Changes not staged for commit:
  (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
  (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)

modified:   app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po

no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")

I also add:

$ git branch
* italian-traslations
  master


> And the content of .git/config in the Gambas directory on your computer.
>

Content of .git/config:

[core]
repositoryformatversion = 0
filemode = true
bare = false
logallrefupdates = true
[remote "origin"]
url = git at gitlab.com:GianluigiOr/gambas.git
fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
[branch "master"]
remote = origin
merge = refs/heads/master
[remote "upstream"]
url = https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas.git
fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/upstream/*
[branch "italian-traslations"]
remote = origin
merge = refs/heads/italian-traslations


>
> > This is the current situation on my remote:
> >
> https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas/-/commits/65dd322acf1f6e66c4b4db6ebf7fda488a29c092
>
> There are two branches:
> italian-traslations and italian-translations
>

I am an idiot, I await your instructions before making things worse :-(

Regards
Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar  9 13:10:00 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 13:10:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Am 09.03.20 um 12:11 schrieb Gianluigi:

>     git status
> 
> $ LANG=C git status
> On branch italian-traslations
> Your branch is up to date with 'origin/italian-traslations'.
> 
> Changes not staged for commit:
> ? (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
> ? (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)
> 
> modified: ? app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po

Ok, this is easy. You just have modified this single file. Please copy
it elsewhere for backup reasons.

> no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
> 
> I also add:
> 
> $ git branch
> * italian-traslations
> ? master

Ok, cool, you are on branch italian-traslations. I think that is not
nearly necessary, you could also work on master, but anyway.

This one you should update that it's state is equal to the master branch
of Gambas:

$ git pull upstream master
(or as I am a little unsure:
   $ git pull upstream
)

Please tell me the output of this command.

> I am an idiot, I await your instructions before making things worse :-(

ROTFL :-)
No you are not! :-)

Git is a git (Il nome Git significa stupido, [this is from deepl.com]).
The beauty of it is that it is made so that you can hardly break
anything with it.

;-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 13:50:53 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 13:50:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 13:11 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 09.03.20 um 12:11 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
> >     git status
> > ...
> > modified:   app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po
>
> Ok, this is easy. You just have modified this single file. Please copy
> it elsewhere for backup reasons.
>

OK done.

This one you should update that it's state is equal to the master branch
> of Gambas:
>
> $ git pull upstream master
> (or as I am a little unsure:
>    $ git pull upstream
> )
>
> Please tell me the output of this command.
>

$ git pull upstream
remote: Enumerating objects: 249, done.
remote: Counting objects: 100% (249/249), done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (64/64), done.
remote: Total 325 (delta 185), reused 231 (delta 184), pack-reused 76
Ricezione degli oggetti: 100% (325/325), 102.51 KiB | 452.00 KiB/s, done.
Risoluzione dei delta: 100% (219/219), completed with 45 local objects.
Da https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas
 * [nuovo branch]        cmake          -> upstream/cmake
 * [nuovo branch]        evdev          -> upstream/evdev
 * [nuovo branch]        exclamation-mark-completion ->
upstream/exclamation-mark-completion
 * [nuovo branch]        gb.chart2      -> upstream/gb.chart2
 * [nuovo branch]        gb.git         -> upstream/gb.git
 * [nuovo branch]        gb.joystick    -> upstream/gb.joystick
 * [nuovo branch]        gb.net.imap    -> upstream/gb.net.imap
 * [nuovo branch]        gb.spreadsheet -> upstream/gb.spreadsheet
 * [nuovo branch]        gb.test        -> upstream/gb.test
 * [nuovo branch]        gb.test.tap    -> upstream/gb.test.tap
 * [nuovo branch]        jit-with-c     -> upstream/jit-with-c
   30cde24a5..1a0809095  master         -> upstream/master
 * [nuovo branch]        qt5ext-2       -> upstream/qt5ext-2
 * [nuovo branch]        stable         -> upstream/stable
 * [nuova tag]           3.14.0         -> 3.14.0
 * [nuova tag]           3.14.1         -> 3.14.1
 * [nuova tag]           3.14.2         -> 3.14.2
 * [nuova tag]           3.14.3         -> 3.14.3
You asked to pull from the remote 'upstream', but did not specify
a branch. Because this is not the default configured remote
for your current branch, you must specify a branch on the command line.

And after:

$ git pull upstream master
Da https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas
 * branch                master     -> FETCH_HEAD
Merge made by the 'recursive' strategy.
 comp/src/gb.web.form2/.src/Test/Webform1.webform |  2 +-
 comp/src/gb.web.form2/.src/WebForm.class         | 48
+++++++++++++++---------
 comp/src/gb.web.form2/style.css                  |  1 +
 main/lib/debug/CDebug.c                          | 12 ++++++
 main/lib/debug/debug.c                           |  4 ++
 main/lib/debug/debug.h                           |  1 +
 6 files changed, 49 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)


>
> > I am an idiot, I await your instructions before making things worse :-(
>
> ROTFL :-)
> No you are not! :-)
>

I have the certificate !


> Git is a git (Il nome Git significa stupido, [this is from deepl.com]).
> The beauty of it is that it is made so that you can hardly break
> anything with it.
>

Let's hope that's true, because as a child I broke everything and as you
know the old people return to children.

:-)))

Thank you and regards

Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar  9 15:23:17 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 15:23:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Am 09.03.20 um 13:50 schrieb Gianluigi:

> And after:
> 
> $ git pull upstream master
> Da https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas
> ?* branch ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?master ? ? -> FETCH_HEAD
> Merge made by the 'recursive' strategy.
> ?comp/src/gb.web.form2/.src/Test/Webform1.webform | ?2 +-
> ?comp/src/gb.web.form2/.src/WebForm.class ? ? ? ? | 48
> +++++++++++++++---------
> ?comp/src/gb.web.form2/style.css ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?| ?1 +
> ?main/lib/debug/CDebug.c ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?| 12 ++++++
> ?main/lib/debug/debug.c ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? | ?4 ++
> ?main/lib/debug/debug.h ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? | ?1 +
> ?6 files changed, 49 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)

Ok now you should commit your changes as always and then do a

$ git push

Please tell me if that worked.

---------------------------------------------------------------

So ... all you needed was "git pull upstream master". But normally
better is a

$ git rebase upstream master

if you have commits in your workdir (which are not pushed!).

If you have a problem, you always can copy the whole workdir (all except
the hidden directory .git) to another place to make a backup. Then reset
the workdir to an older version:

$ git reset --hard $HashOfOlderVersion

then

$ git pull upstream master

to make it similar to the original Gambas.

And then copy your changes from the backup over it, then commit, then push.

You should learn mostly everything about these essential Git commands:
fetch, pull, push, merge, stash, branch, rebase and reset.

If you have done that you will never have any problem any more. Not with
women, not with children, not with age or drugs. And obviously not with
Git repositories.

> Let's hope that's true, because as a child I broke everything and as you
> know the old people return to children.

Git will prevent that. Just transform yourself into a Git repository.
Git heals everything!  ;-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 16:05:36 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 16:05:36 +0100
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Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 15:24 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 09.03.20 um 13:50 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
> > And after:
> >
> > $ git pull upstream master
> ...
> Ok now you should commit your changes as always and then do a
>
> $ git push
>
> Please tell me if that worked.
>

Just not to be wrong, now my status is this:
--------------------------------------------
$ LANG=C git status
On branch italian-traslations
Your branch is ahead of 'origin/italian-traslations' by 3 commits.
  (use "git push" to publish your local commits)

Changes not staged for commit:
  (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
  (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)

modified:   app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po

no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
-------------------------------------------------------------------
I just have to give git push as suggested by you and git, without repeating
add and commit first, right?


> So ... all you needed was "git pull upstream master". But normally
> better is a
>
> $ git rebase upstream master
>
> if you have commits in your workdir (which are not pushed!).
>
> If you have a problem, you always can copy the whole workdir (all except
> the hidden directory .git) to another place to make a backup. Then reset
> the workdir to an older version:
>
> $ git reset --hard $HashOfOlderVersion
>
> then
>
> $ git pull upstream master
>
> to make it similar to the original Gambas.
>
> And then copy your changes from the backup over it, then commit, then push.
>

OK, I'll treasure your advice

>
> You should learn mostly everything about these essential Git commands:
> fetch, pull, push, merge, stash, branch, rebase and reset.
>
> If you have done that you will never have any problem any more. Not with
> women, not with children, not with age or drugs. And obviously not with
> Git repositories.
>

Yours is definitely good universal advice, too bad it came to me a little
late, given my age :-)

Thank you and regads
Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar  9 16:22:49 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
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Am 09.03.20 um 16:05 schrieb Gianluigi:

> Just not to be wrong, now my status is this:
> --------------------------------------------
> $ LANG=C git status
> On branch italian-traslations
> Your branch is ahead of 'origin/italian-traslations' by 3 commits.
> ? (use "git push" to publish your local commits)
> 
> Changes not staged for commit:
> ? (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
> ? (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)
> 
> modified: ? app/src/gambas3/.lang/it.po
> 
> no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> I just have to give git push as suggested by you and git, without
> repeating add and commit first, right?

No, sorry, please do what it says, commit as you are used to. And then push.

>     You should learn mostly everything about these essential Git commands:
>     fetch, pull, push, merge, stash, branch, rebase and reset.

Uah, I forgot "commit".

>     If you have done that you will never have any problem any more. Not with
>     women, not with children, not with age or drugs. And obviously not with
>     Git repositories.
> 
> 
> Yours is definitely good universal advice, too bad it came to me a
> little late, given my age :-)

I said also "not with age" ... because:
Git makes you young again.

;-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 18:11:30 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
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On 3/9/20 11:05 AM, Gianluigi wrote:
> Just not to be wrong, now my status is this:
> --------------------------------------------
> $ LANG=C git status
> On branch italian-traslations
> Your branch is ahead of 'origin/italian-traslations' by 3 commits.
>  ? (use "git push" to publish your local commits)

Are you sure you wanted to be doing all that on branch "traslations" and not "translations"?


-- 
Lee

From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar  9 18:32:19 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 18:32:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Am 09.03.20 um 18:11 schrieb T Lee Davidson:
> On 3/9/20 11:05 AM, Gianluigi wrote:
>> Just not to be wrong, now my status is this:
>> --------------------------------------------
>> $ LANG=C git status
>> On branch italian-traslations
>> Your branch is ahead of 'origin/italian-traslations' by 3 commits.
>>  ? (use "git push" to publish your local commits)
> 
> Are you sure you wanted to be doing all that on branch "traslations" and not "translations"?

At last he worked on traslations. It can be renamed afterwards.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 19:11:11 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 19:11:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 18:33 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 09.03.20 um 18:11 schrieb T Lee Davidson:
> > On 3/9/20 11:05 AM, Gianluigi wrote:
> >> Just not to be wrong, now my status is this:
> ...
> > Are you sure you wanted to be doing all that on branch "traslations" and
> not "translations"?
>
> At last he worked on traslations. It can be renamed afterwards.
>

Hi,

it didn't go well.
I think the problem starts from Master who doesn't advance:
-----------------------------------------------------------
$ git status
Sul branch italian-traslations
Your branch is up to date with 'origin/italian-traslations'.

nothing to commit, working tree clean
$ gitk
$ git checkout master
Si ? passati al branch 'master'
Your branch is up to date with 'origin/master'.
$ gitk
------------------------------------------------------------------------
italian-traslation is about the present time, while the master is one year
behind.
See image of gitk-italian-traslations and gitk-master:
https://paste.c-net.org/GreatlyDelia
https://paste.c-net.org/HoveringIngrate

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 20:01:41 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 20:01:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
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Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 09:45 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 09.03.20 um 02:30 schrieb Bruce:
>
> > p.s. You don't want to see this code. In fact I don't like looking at
> > it. It grew without enough thought and incomplete requirements.
> > :-(
>
> Then first do a refactoring until you like looking at the code. If you
> enhance ugly code with ugly code it will only get worse.
>

To distract myself from Git I propose this solution.
It looks clean enough.
See attached project (as long as it is not bounced)

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 20:16:58 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 20:16:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
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Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 20:01 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
>
> Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 09:45 Christof Thalhofer <
> chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:
>
>> Am 09.03.20 um 02:30 schrieb Bruce:
>>
>> > p.s. You don't want to see this code. In fact I don't like looking at
>> > it. It grew without enough thought and incomplete requirements.
>> > :-(
>>
>> Then first do a refactoring until you like looking at the code. If you
>> enhance ugly code with ugly code it will only get worse.
>>
>
> To distract myself from Git I propose this solution.
> It looks clean enough.
> See attached project (as long as it is not bounced)
>

I'm afraid it's more correct to change *Wait* with *Sleep*, sorry

Regards
Gianluigi
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 21:49:24 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 22:49:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
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Lol, yes you can just simply use resize. I was thinking halfway in C.


Jussi

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 9:02 PM Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 09:45 Christof Thalhofer <
> chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:
>
>> Am 09.03.20 um 02:30 schrieb Bruce:
>>
>> > p.s. You don't want to see this code. In fact I don't like looking at
>> > it. It grew without enough thought and incomplete requirements.
>> > :-(
>>
>> Then first do a refactoring until you like looking at the code. If you
>> enhance ugly code with ugly code it will only get worse.
>>
>
> To distract myself from Git I propose this solution.
> It looks clean enough.
> See attached project (as long as it is not bounced)
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 21:51:14 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 22:51:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
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Yet, rare are the projects where all code is beautiful!


Jussi

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:45 AM Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de>
wrote:

> Am 09.03.20 um 02:30 schrieb Bruce:
>
> > p.s. You don't want to see this code. In fact I don't like looking at
> > it. It grew without enough thought and incomplete requirements.
> > :-(
>
> Then first do a refactoring until you like looking at the code. If you
> enhance ugly code with ugly code it will only get worse.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar  9 22:41:35 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 22:41:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Am 09.03.20 um 19:11 schrieb Gianluigi:

> it didn't go well.

No.

> I think the problem starts from Master who doesn't advance:
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> $ git status
> Sul branch italian-traslations
> Your branch is up to date with 'origin/italian-traslations'.
> 
> nothing to commit, working tree clean

Allright, that was, what we have done. We fixed
italian-traslations which is now equivalent with upstream/master.

> $ gitk
> $ git checkout master
> Si ? passati al branch 'master'
> Your branch is up to date with 'origin/master'.

> $ gitk
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> italian-traslation is about the present time, while the master is one
> year behind.

Because we didn't pull the changes into master.

Do:

$ git checkout master

Then you can:

$ git pull upstream master

and/or

$ git merge italian-traslation

to make your master equivalent to upstream/master.

And then you can push it to origin/master:

$ git push

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar  9 23:15:41 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 23:15:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 22:42 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 09.03.20 um 19:11 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
> > it didn't go well.
>
> No.
>
> > I think the problem starts from Master who doesn't advance:
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > $ git status
>
> Allright, that was, what we have done. We fixed
> italian-traslations which is now equivalent with upstream/master.
> ...
> > italian-traslation is about the present time, while the master is one
> > year behind.
>
> Because we didn't pull the changes into master.
> ...
>

git pull upstream master it worked, see gitk image:
https://paste.c-net.org/MementoDoesn

Unfortunately on:
$ git merge italian-traslation
merge: italian-traslation - not something we can merge

I suspend and go to sleep, if you think, we update tomorrow.

Thank you and good night
Gianluigi
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 10 02:27:13 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 11:57:13 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
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???

On 9/3/20 7:14 pm, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 09.03.20 um 02:30 schrieb Bruce:
> 
>> p.s. You don't want to see this code. In fact I don't like looking at
>> it. It grew without enough thought and incomplete requirements.
>> :-(
> 
> Then first do a refactoring until you like looking at the code. If you
> enhance ugly code with ugly code it will only get worse.
> 

I do not see any reason to pull down a perfectly functional but very 
messy 3 bedroom house just to build a chicken coop out the back!  :-)

b

From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Mar 10 08:00:23 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:00:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Sparse arrays? Possible?
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Am 10.03.20 um 02:27 schrieb Bruce:

>>> p.s. You don't want to see this code. In fact I don't like looking at
>>> it. It grew without enough thought and incomplete requirements.
>>> :-(
>>
>> Then first do a refactoring until you like looking at the code. If you
>> enhance ugly code with ugly code it will only get worse.
>>
> I do not see any reason to pull down a perfectly functional but very 
> messy 3 bedroom house just to build a chicken coop out the back!  :-)

Refactoring is not pull down. It is stabilizing and making things clear
and better understandable. It is an important criterion if you want to
work well with it or with others in the future.

It's your code. You can do with it what you want ... but I  have no
desire and time to discuss the value and conservation of ugly code.

Visual Basic and it's culture was source of a lot of messy code. i think
it's a tradition worth to be broken.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Mar 10 08:11:42 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:11:42 +0100
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Am 06.03.20 um 09:35 I wrote:

> in master there are now gb.test and gb.test.tap. These two play well
> together as far as I can see. But a part of the functionality has
> disappeared and must therefore be restored:
...
> Who wants to restore it? Should I do it?

Ok, I will do it now in master.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Mar 10 10:30:05 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 10:30:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.test
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Hello,

> Am 06.03.20 um 09:35 I wrote:
> 
>> in master there are now gb.test and gb.test.tap. These two play well
>> together as far as I can see. But a part of the functionality has
>> disappeared and must therefore be restored:
> ...
>> Who wants to restore it? Should I do it?
> 
> Ok, I will do it now in master.

As I now work with the current state of gb.test I see that much more
functionality is broken now.

We should have fixed that in the gb.test.tap branch before integrating
it into master! Why is this broken thing in master now ????

Explanation:

I wrote tests to test gb.test itself. Part of these tests now fail and
even cannot be debugged any more.

In gb.test TestFailures.test has 11 Asserts that have to report "not ok".

Currently it crashes immediately. Even if I try to fix it with

>     Try Object.Call($MyTestModule, Me.name)
>     If Error Then
>         Assert.NotOk(True, "Error in " & $MyTestModule.Name & ": " & Error.Text)
>     Endif

in TestCase.Run()

only 7 of 11 Asserts report "not ok", the other ones disappear ... but
why???

If I want to find that out, I am not able to step through it any more,
because the Assert class is not in gb.test any more.

Also I cannot see which test is done while stepping through, because the
output to stdout is gone.

So it is now fundamentally broken!

--------------------------------------------------------------

I appreciate it when the functionality is improved, but I get really
angry when it gets broken! While I was programming this thing, I used to
make a lot of mistakes and wrong decisions, but I fixed that and wrote
extra tests to make sure it would not happen again. These tests have to
be fulfilled, otherwise it is broken.

I stop working on it until these failures are fixed.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From taboege at gmail.com  Tue Mar 10 17:34:02 2020
From: taboege at gmail.com (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 17:34:02 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.test and gb.test.tap
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On Fri, 06 Mar 2020, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 06.03.20 um 09:52 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> 
> > Is there a reason why 'gb.test.tap' is compiled before 'gb.test'? (see 
> > 'comp/src/order')
> > 
> > It seems not logical, unless these two components are completely 
> > independent?
> 

I'm just coming back, slowly, from vacation and a flu. Please bear with me.

gb.test.tap is meant to be common code for printing and parsing TAP. It is
what gb.test should use so that gb.test.tap is a transitive dependency of
every project in "test mode". There will be a global Assert object that the
test code and gb.test can use together to print a coherent TAP stream.
This is why gb.test.tap must be compiled before gb.test -- it is a dependency.

Furthermore, gbt3 and the IDE should use gb.test.tap for parsing TAP output
from test programs.

> We will have to rethink dependencies ...
> (please forget my Flowchart)
> 
> This is what I think now, IMO:
> 
> * gb.test should contain Assert.
> 
> * Assert should be a module not a class
>   (we do not need an object being Assert).
> 

Ok, why not.

> * gb.test.tap should contain gb.test as component
>   and should provide its Unittest() like that:
> 
>   Unittest(Tests as String, Optional Values ... )
> 
>   The variable "Tests" is a comma separated string
>   of testmodules and testmethods.
> 
> Because:
> 
> Maybe we later want to have another output module for testing instead of
> gb.test.tap? Imagine things like that:
> 
> gb.test.db -> writes test output into a database
> gb.test.log -> hands over to syslog
> gb.test.monitor -> hands over to a monitoring system
> gb.test.csv -> writes tests output to a csv file
> 
> Or someone can write it's own testing system.
> 

How does turning around the dependency I described above achieve this?
gb.test.tap is a generic component for reading and writing TAP. It is
only tangentially related to testing in Gambas. gb.test.tap is an
implementation of TAP just like gb.web contains an implementation
of JSON. gb.test on the other hand is the testing framework component
shipped with Gambas, it should organize, setup and drive the testing.
People can write their own testing framework (potentially), but gb.test
is the one officially provided by Gambas.

If you want gb.test not to output TAP but CSV files, then make gb.test
recognize some kind of configuration, maybe via environment variables,
to load instead of gb.test.tap the gb.test.csv component. That component
must provide an Assert module with the same interface as gb.test.tap.
Then that Assert module can do with the assertions whatever it wants.
If Assert becomes part of gb.test, how will you handle the conversion
of high-level assertions to different output formats?

IMO, gb.test may or may not use gb.test.tap, but gb.test.tap should not
depend on gb.test.

Regards,
Tobias

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 10 18:25:13 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 18:25:13 +0100
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Le 10/03/2020 ? 17:34, Tobias Boege a ?crit?:
> On Fri, 06 Mar 2020, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
>> Am 06.03.20 um 09:52 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>>
>>> Is there a reason why 'gb.test.tap' is compiled before 'gb.test'? (see
>>> 'comp/src/order')
>>>
>>> It seems not logical, unless these two components are completely
>>> independent?
>>
> 
> I'm just coming back, slowly, from vacation and a flu. Please bear with me.
> 
> gb.test.tap is meant to be common code for printing and parsing TAP. It is
> what gb.test should use so that gb.test.tap is a transitive dependency of
> every project in "test mode". There will be a global Assert object that the
> test code and gb.test can use together to print a coherent TAP stream.
> This is why gb.test.tap must be compiled before gb.test -- it is a dependency.

Ah OK, I thought gb.test.tap was just for parsing TAP, not generating it.

> 
> Furthermore, gbt3 and the IDE should use gb.test.tap for parsing TAP output
> from test programs.

OK. I still don't really understand why there should be a 'gbt3' program.

> 
>> We will have to rethink dependencies ...
>> (please forget my Flowchart)
>>
>> This is what I think now, IMO:
>>
>> * gb.test should contain Assert.
>>
>> * Assert should be a module not a class
>>    (we do not need an object being Assert).
>>
> 
> Ok, why not.
> 
>> * gb.test.tap should contain gb.test as component
>>    and should provide its Unittest() like that:
>>
>>    Unittest(Tests as String, Optional Values ... )
>>
>>    The variable "Tests" is a comma separated string
>>    of testmodules and testmethods.
>>
>> Because:
>>
>> Maybe we later want to have another output module for testing instead of
>> gb.test.tap? Imagine things like that:
>>
>> gb.test.db -> writes test output into a database
>> gb.test.log -> hands over to syslog
>> gb.test.monitor -> hands over to a monitoring system
>> gb.test.csv -> writes tests output to a csv file
>>
>> Or someone can write it's own testing system.
>>
> 
> How does turning around the dependency I described above achieve this?
> gb.test.tap is a generic component for reading and writing TAP. It is
> only tangentially related to testing in Gambas. gb.test.tap is an
> implementation of TAP just like gb.web contains an implementation
> of JSON. gb.test on the other hand is the testing framework component
> shipped with Gambas, it should organize, setup and drive the testing.
> People can write their own testing framework (potentially), but gb.test
> is the one officially provided by Gambas.
> 
> If you want gb.test not to output TAP but CSV files, then make gb.test
> recognize some kind of configuration, maybe via environment variables,
> to load instead of gb.test.tap the gb.test.csv component. That component
> must provide an Assert module with the same interface as gb.test.tap.
> Then that Assert module can do with the assertions whatever it wants.
> If Assert becomes part of gb.test, how will you handle the conversion
> of high-level assertions to different output formats?
> 
> IMO, gb.test may or may not use gb.test.tap, but gb.test.tap should not
> depend on gb.test.
> 
> Regards,
> Tobias

All that seems logical to me.

'gb.test' does the testing, and pass the result of each test to 
'gb.test.tap' that prints it in TAP format.

You must agree on the interface the Assert class, and be sure that it is 
somewhat complete.

But I have a few remarks about what I see at the moment:

1) ASSERT is already the name of an instruction. But it is not a big 
deal, as there is no ambiguity between the instruction and the class.

2) When writing my test modules, I should only call methods in the 
'gb.test' component. In other words, I suggest having the Assert class 
in 'gb.test', and overriding it in 'gb.test.tap'.

The Assert class in 'gb.test' could emit nothing, or just an internal 
format for debugging purpose, or detect that no 'gb.test.*' module has 
been loaded and abort.

The Assert class in 'gb.test.tap' will do the real formatting job.

Note that the inheritance thing works only if Assert is a dynamic class 
with "CREATE STATIC" option, and all its methods being dynamic.

Assert methods in 'gb.test' could provide all the common stuff so that 
there is just printing and formatting in 'gb.test.tap'.

3) Could we rename "UnitTest" into "Test" directly? After all, I may 
want to do some tests that are not "unit tests".

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Tue Mar 10 18:36:37 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 18:36:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] TreeView scrolling
Message-ID: <99098118-124b-fe62-c2a2-df248081b007@osnanet.de>

In a TreeView, there should be the possibility to move the contents so 
it is completely visible. At least it seems so, there is ScrollX, 
Scroll(X, Y) etc.

The values are integers, but what are the units? Is it screen pixels? I 
tried a bit to compute with ScrollWidth, but the values don't seem to match.

Or is it meant to do something completely different?

Thanks for any help!

Regards
Rolf

From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Mar 10 23:21:11 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 23:21:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.test and gb.test.tap
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Hi Tobi,

Am 10.03.20 um 17:34 schrieb Tobias Boege:

> I'm just coming back, slowly, from vacation and a flu. Please bear with me.

Sorry for my rant this morning. I would have preferred if we first had
got the job done in the branch gb.test.tap before integrating it into
master.

> gb.test.tap is meant to be common code for printing and parsing TAP. It is
> what gb.test should use so that gb.test.tap is a transitive dependency of
> every project in "test mode". There will be a global Assert object that the
> test code and gb.test can use together to print a coherent TAP stream.
> This is why gb.test.tap must be compiled before gb.test -- it is a dependency.

Assert should not be in gb.test.tap, because if one wants to create
another output component (gb.test.log, gb.test.db ...) all Assertions
would have to be duplicated (and tested!!!) there, which makes no sense IMO.

Look: If gb.test.tap or gb.test.db would have an interface called "Ok"
which is called by Assert.xyz, that would be enough. This Ok(Result as
Boolean, Message as String) can do anything, count tests, print to
Stdout or store into a Db, what you want...

>> * gb.test should contain Assert.
>>
>> * Assert should be a module not a class
>>   (we do not need an object being Assert).
>
> Ok, why not.

Ok, ahm ... what? A few lines later you write the opposite. *

>> * gb.test.tap should contain gb.test as component
>>   and should provide its Unittest() like that:
>>
>>   Unittest(Tests as String, Optional Values ... )
>>
>>   The variable "Tests" is a comma separated string
>>   of testmodules and testmethods.
>>
>> Because:
>>
>> Maybe we later want to have another output module for testing instead of
>> gb.test.tap? Imagine things like that:
>>
>> gb.test.db -> writes test output into a database
>> gb.test.log -> hands over to syslog
>> gb.test.monitor -> hands over to a monitoring system
>> gb.test.csv -> writes tests output to a csv file
>>
>> Or someone can write it's own testing system.
>>
> 
> How does turning around the dependency I described above achieve this?
> gb.test.tap is a generic component for reading and writing TAP. It is
> only tangentially related to testing in Gambas. gb.test.tap is an
> implementation of TAP just like gb.web contains an implementation
> of JSON. gb.test on the other hand is the testing framework component
> shipped with Gambas, it should organize, setup and drive the testing.
> People can write their own testing framework (potentially), but gb.test
> is the one officially provided by Gambas.
> 
> If you want gb.test not to output TAP but CSV files, then make gb.test
> recognize some kind of configuration, maybe via environment variables,
> to load instead of gb.test.tap the gb.test.csv component. That component
> must provide an Assert module with the same interface as gb.test.tap.

* At this point I disagree.

> Then that Assert module can do with the assertions whatever it wants.
> If Assert becomes part of gb.test, how will you handle the conversion
> of high-level assertions to different output formats?

What are "high-level assertions"? Can you give me an example?

If someone wants to write own assertions elsewhere Assert in gb.test can
easily been extended by creating an own Assert class which automatically
inherits an existing Assert in gb.test.

> IMO, gb.test may or may not use gb.test.tap, but gb.test.tap should not
> depend on gb.test.

I agree.

Hmm ok, but please write a piece of code that does what the old gb.test did:

* Test itself and let us step through the assertions while debugging it.
This is important! Assertions can be buggy, they look simple but it is a
testing system that tests a lot of other projects in future so it has to
be rock stable!

* Output the result of a single assertion immediately, not after all
tests are done.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Mar 11 00:12:16 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 00:12:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.test and gb.test.tap
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Am 10.03.20 um 18:25 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

>> Furthermore, gbt3 and the IDE should use gb.test.tap for parsing TAP output
>> from test programs.
> 
> OK. I still don't really understand why there should be a 'gbt3' program.

The idea of gbt3 was a program that is able to test a project on the
commandline:

gbt3 "testmodule1,testmodule2.testmethod3" ./myproject

It can be called by the IDE but also by other programs (or by hand). I
would use it in my deployment scripts which should stop if testing
reported not ok.

> All that seems logical to me.
> 
> 'gb.test' does the testing, and pass the result of each test to 
> 'gb.test.tap' that prints it in TAP format.

Yes this is what I think also.

> You must agree on the interface the Assert class, and be sure that it is 
> somewhat complete.

Disagree in parts, but later ...

> But I have a few remarks about what I see at the moment:
> 
> 1) ASSERT is already the name of an instruction. But it is not a big 
> deal, as there is no ambiguity between the instruction and the class.

ASSERT was the result of my request in the bugtracker. It is a standard
in programming languages and I also wanted to claim the name. ;-)

I think we can handle that well in the documentation.

> 2) When writing my test modules, I should only call methods in the 
> 'gb.test' component. In other words, I suggest having the Assert class 
> in 'gb.test', and overriding it in 'gb.test.tap'.

Agree, I think the same but I would like to have as much assertions in
gb.test as possible. So they are standard.

Assertions have to be tested well, which is what gb.test itself did
until aa6196323. Unfortunately it is broken since then and I want that
functionality back.

> The Assert class in 'gb.test' could emit nothing, or just an internal 
> format for debugging purpose, or detect that no 'gb.test.*' module has 
> been loaded and abort.

I think in gb.test there should be all standard assertions as they are
now in gb.test.tap so they will not have to be rewritten over and over
in future gb.test.log, gb.test.db and so on.

> The Assert class in 'gb.test.tap' will do the real formatting job.

I disagree that the Assert class playes the role of an interface and it
should also not do any formatting.

If there is an interface in gb.test.tap for example called

"Ok(Result as Boolean, Message as String)" or
"Track(Result as Boolean, Message as String)" or
"Report(Result as Boolean, Message as String)"
... please name it ...

that would be enough, IMO. This interface is mandatory in every gb.test.yxz.

This would make it much easier to write an alternative output component
for gb.test.

> Note that the inheritance thing works only if Assert is a dynamic class 
> with "CREATE STATIC" option, and all its methods being dynamic.

Ah ok.

> Assert methods in 'gb.test' could provide all the common stuff so that 
> there is just printing and formatting in 'gb.test.tap'.

Ok. I see, you think the same.

> 3) Could we rename "UnitTest" into "Test" directly? After all, I may 
> want to do some tests that are not "unit tests".

Yes, for sure.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Mar 11 08:30:07 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 08:30:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.test and gb.test.tap
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Am 10.03.20 um 23:21 schrieb Christof Thalhofer:

>> IMO, gb.test may or may not use gb.test.tap, but gb.test.tap should not
>> depend on gb.test.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> Hmm ok, but please write a piece of code that does what the old gb.test did:
> 
> * Test itself and let us step through the assertions while debugging it.
> This is important! Assertions can be buggy, they look simple but it is a
> testing system that tests a lot of other projects in future so it has to
> be rock stable!
> 
> * Output the result of a single assertion immediately, not after all
> tests are done.

I forgot:

* Report all 11 assertions in TestFailures as "not ok".


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Wed Mar 11 17:25:19 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:25:19 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] TreeView scrolling
In-Reply-To: <99098118-124b-fe62-c2a2-df248081b007@osnanet.de>
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On 3/10/20 1:36 PM, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> In a TreeView, there should be the possibility to move the contents so it is completely visible. At least it seems so, there is 
> ScrollX, Scroll(X, Y) etc.
> 
> The values are integers, but what are the units? Is it screen pixels? I tried a bit to compute with ScrollWidth, but the values 
> don't seem to match.
> 
> Or is it meant to do something completely different?
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> Regards
> Rolf
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Perhaps http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/_treeview_item could help you.

I haven't tried it, but I think you might be able to do something like:
TreeView1.Scroll(TreeView1.Item.X, TreeView1.Item.Y)


-- 
Lee

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Wed Mar 11 23:25:48 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 15:25:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Is it possible to unload and reload components and
 classes
Message-ID: <1535663435.15082.1583965548662.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Is it possible to unload a class/Component and reload(with fixes) it without restarting the app. 

I see there is an unload inside component.c but it's not public. 

if there are no references to the class of course? 

Can anyone help me understand this. Please. 

Thank You 
Brian G 
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 12 00:40:12 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 00:40:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Is it possible to unload and reload components
 and classes
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Le 11/03/2020 ? 23:25, Brian G a ?crit?:
> Is it possible to unload a class/Component? and reload(with fixes) it 
> without restarting the app.
> 
> I see there is an unload inside component.c but it's not public.
> 
> if there are no references to the class of course?
> 
> Can anyone help me understand this. Please.
> 
> Thank You
> Brian G
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

It's not possible to unload a component. Because, for example, another 
component loaded after may have overridden a class of that component. 
But there are other reasons.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Thu Mar 12 00:46:16 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (brian)
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:46:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Is it possible to unload and reload components
 and classes
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Thanks




Get Outlook for Android







On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 4:41 PM -0700, "Beno?t Minisini" <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:










Le 11/03/2020 ? 23:25, Brian G a ?crit?:
> Is it possible to unload a class/Component? and reload(with fixes) it 
> without restarting the app.
> 
> I see there is an unload inside component.c but it's not public.
> 
> if there are no references to the class of course?
> 
> Can anyone help me understand this. Please.
> 
> Thank You
> Brian G
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

It's not possible to unload a component. Because, for example, another 
component loaded after may have overridden a class of that component. 
But there are other reasons.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----





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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Mar 13 10:28:38 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:28:38 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Menu popup MenuButton in Master
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbmf4e3EsjXyBL-b6rZHqxAzgZQ9w=dVNDrc+zj5TTMzA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello people,
one question, but does the menubutton popup menu work for you?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 13 10:36:57 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:36:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Menu popup MenuButton in Master
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Le 13/03/2020 ? 10:28, Gianluigi a ?crit?:
> Hello people,
> one question, but does the menubutton popup menu work for you?
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

What do you mean exactly? It's used everywhere in the IDE.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Mar 13 11:08:49 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:08:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Menu popup MenuButton in Master
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Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 10:37 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Le 13/03/2020 ? 10:28, Gianluigi a ?crit :
> > Hello people,
> > one question, but does the menubutton popup menu work for you?
> >
> > Regards
> > Gianluigi
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> What do you mean exactly? It's used everywhere in the IDE.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
If, with the IDE editor I create a menu with submenus, then from the
PopupMenu property I get multiple menu names and they don't work.
It doesn't even work if I create a simple menu.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Fri Mar 13 17:29:09 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 17:29:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] TreeView scrolling
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Use TreeView1["MyKey].EnsureVisible

Regards,

From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Fri Mar 13 17:46:28 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 17:46:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Menu popup MenuButton in Master
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It's the same for me since many time :-/

If I set the name by code it work.

Le ven. 13 mars 2020 ? 11:10, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>
>
>
> Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 10:37 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>
>> Le 13/03/2020 ? 10:28, Gianluigi a ?crit :
>> > Hello people,
>> > one question, but does the menubutton popup menu work for you?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Gianluigi
>> >
>> >
>> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>> >
>>
>> What do you mean exactly? It's used everywhere in the IDE.
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>
> If, with the IDE editor I create a menu with submenus, then from the PopupMenu property I get multiple menu names and they don't work.
> It doesn't even work if I create a simple menu.
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----



-- 
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Gambas Basic : http://gambas.sf.net
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Mar 13 18:21:24 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 18:21:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Menu popup MenuButton in Master
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I apologize I have been inaccurate:
the menus all work, but if the menu contains submenus, the PopupMenu
property displays multiple names.

Regards
Gianluigi

Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 17:47 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> It's the same for me since many time :-/
>
> If I set the name by code it work.
>
> Le ven. 13 mars 2020 ? 11:10, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> a ?crit :
> >
> >
> >
> > Il giorno ven 13 mar 2020 alle ore 10:37 Beno?t Minisini <
> g4mba5 at gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >>
> >> Le 13/03/2020 ? 10:28, Gianluigi a ?crit :
> >> > Hello people,
> >> > one question, but does the menubutton popup menu work for you?
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > Gianluigi
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >> >
> >>
> >> What do you mean exactly? It's used everywhere in the IDE.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Beno?t Minisini
> >>
> >
> > If, with the IDE editor I create a menu with submenus, then from the
> PopupMenu property I get multiple menu names and they don't work.
> > It doesn't even work if I create a simple menu.
> >
> > Regards
> > Gianluigi
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
>
> --
> Fabien Bodard
>
> Gambas Basic : http://gambas.sf.net
> GambasForge : http://www.gambasforge.org
> NEW discourse Gambas Forum : https://gambas.discourse.group/
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Mar 14 15:18:20 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:18:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 23:15 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
>
> Il giorno lun 9 mar 2020 alle ore 22:42 Christof Thalhofer <
> chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:
>
>> Am 09.03.20 um 19:11 schrieb Gianluigi:
>>
>> > it didn't go well.
>>
>> No.
>>
>> > I think the problem starts from Master who doesn't advance:
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------
>> > $ git status
>>
>> Allright, that was, what we have done. We fixed
>> italian-traslations which is now equivalent with upstream/master.
>> ...
>> > italian-traslation is about the present time, while the master is one
>> > year behind.
>>
>> Because we didn't pull the changes into master.
>> ...
>>
>
> git pull upstream master it worked, see gitk image:
> https://paste.c-net.org/MementoDoesn
>
> Unfortunately on:
> $ git merge italian-traslation
> merge: italian-traslation - not something we can merge
>
> I suspend and go to sleep, if you think, we update tomorrow.
>
> Thank you and good night
> Gianluigi
>

Hi Christof,

I hope you still have the strength to follow my awkward steps in Git.

These are my branches:
  italian-traslations
* master

this is the master status:
On branch master
Your branch is ahead of 'origin/master' by 621 commits.
  (use "git push" to publish your local commits)
nothing to commit, working tree clean

and this is the status of italian-traslations:
On branch italian-traslations
Your branch is up to date with 'origin/italian-traslations'.
nothing to commit, working tree clean

If I understand correctly, I could only work with the master.
To do this, I simply write to terminal:

git branch -d italian-traslations

Or is the matter more complex?

If I am alone with master, I just need to import the latest translations
(saved in backup) and do:
add, commit and push

then ask for merge, correct?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Mar 14 19:14:39 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 11:14:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Trouble passing struct to my clib
Message-ID: <1371826733.15646.1584209679478.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

I am trying to pass a structure to my clib 

Reading the documentation, struct is like a global class but an embedded struct is like an unpacked c struct access via a virtual object. 

You can create embedded structure arrays where the data is created directly in the array, statically 

My understanding then is as follows 

struct xx 
a as integer 
end struct 

dim y[1] as xx should create an array where the structure is embedded already allocated. Correct? 

but y[0].a = 1 yields an error I must do y[0] = new xx ... ummm maybe I don't understand embedded correctly 
as the doc says that Gambas creates a virtual object to work with the data. 

Then I am having a problem understanding how to actually pass the address of y[0] or y for that matter to my c function 

I would love if someone could point me in the correct direction. Please 


Thank You 
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sat Mar 14 19:42:53 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 11:42:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Trouble passing struct to my clib
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Well I did find an example, An I guess it's so simple....... 

thanks all. 

Thank You 
Brian G 


From: "Brian" <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> 
To: "Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 11:14:39 AM 
Subject: [Gambas-user] Trouble passing struct to my clib 

I am trying to pass a structure to my clib 

Reading the documentation, struct is like a global class but an embedded struct is like an unpacked c struct access via a virtual object. 

You can create embedded structure arrays where the data is created directly in the array, statically 

My understanding then is as follows 

struct xx 
a as integer 
end struct 

dim y[1] as xx should create an array where the structure is embedded already allocated. Correct? 

but y[0].a = 1 yields an error I must do y[0] = new xx ... ummm maybe I don't understand embedded correctly 
as the doc says that Gambas creates a virtual object to work with the data. 

Then I am having a problem understanding how to actually pass the address of y[0] or y for that matter to my c function 

I would love if someone could point me in the correct direction. Please 


Thank You 
Brian G 


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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sat Mar 14 20:11:41 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:11:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Am 14.03.20 um 15:18 schrieb Gianluigi:

> I hope you still have the strength to follow my awkward steps in Git.

For sure!

> These are my branches:
> ? italian-traslations
> * master
> 
> this is the master status:
> On branch master
> Your branch is ahead of 'origin/master' by 621 commits.
> ? (use "git push" to publish your local commits)
> nothing to commit, working tree clean

Look, it says, what should be done.
So please do a git push.

> and this is the status of italian-traslations:
> On branch italian-traslations
> Your branch is up to date with 'origin/italian-traslations'.
> nothing to commit, working tree clean
> 
> If I understand correctly, I could only work with the master.

You can, if you want to. I would do that, only if you want to try
something new this would be a reason to create another branch.

> To do this, I simply write to terminal:
> 
> git branch -d italian-traslations

Yes. If there are commits in there which would be lost, it would
complain about that. So just do it and watch what happens.

> Or is the matter more complex?

No.

> If I am alone with master, I just need to import the latest translations
> (saved in backup) and do:
> add, commit and push
>
> then ask for merge, correct?

Yes.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 22:34:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno sab 14 mar 2020 alle ore 20:12 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 14.03.20 um 15:18 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
> > I hope you still have the strength to follow my awkward steps in Git.
>
> For sure!
>
> > These are my branches:
> >   italian-traslations
> > * master
> >
> > this is the master status:
> > On branch master
> > Your branch is ahead of 'origin/master' by 621 commits.
> >   (use "git push" to publish your local commits)
> > nothing to commit, working tree clean
>
> Look, it says, what should be done.
> So please do a git push.
>
> > and this is the status of italian-traslations:
> > On branch italian-traslations
> > Your branch is up to date with 'origin/italian-traslations'.
> > nothing to commit, working tree clean
> >
> > If I understand correctly, I could only work with the master.
>
> You can, if you want to. I would do that, only if you want to try
> something new this would be a reason to create another branch.
>
> > To do this, I simply write to terminal:
> >
> > git branch -d italian-traslations
>
> Yes. If there are commits in there which would be lost, it would
> complain about that. So just do it and watch what happens.
>
> > Or is the matter more complex?
>
> No.
>
> > If I am alone with master, I just need to import the latest translations
> > (saved in backup) and do:
> > add, commit and push
> >
> > then ask for merge, correct?
>
> Yes.
>

Hi Christof,
it seems to have worked (*), except that when I get to the merge GitLab
replies:
Sorry, your filter produced no results (
https://paste.c-net.org/TeamworkLifetime )
Can you help me fix the filter?
I've already tried it to no avail

Regards
Gianluigi

(*) deleting branch 'italian-traslations' that has been merged to
         'refs/remotes/origin/italian-traslations', but not yet merged to
HEAD.
Ramo italian-traslations eliminato (era a40d381d5).

And:

$ git push
Counting objects: 101, done.
Delta compression using up to 8 threads.
Compressing objects: 100% (100/100), done.
Writing objects: 100% (101/101), 17.22 KiB | 2.46 MiB/s, done.
Total 101 (delta 81), reused 0 (delta 0)
remote: Resolving deltas: 100% (81/81), completed with 43 local objects.
To gitlab.com:GianluigiOr/gambas.git
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From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:08:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno sab 14 mar 2020 alle ore 22:34 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
>
> Il giorno sab 14 mar 2020 alle ore 20:12 Christof Thalhofer <
> chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:
>
>> Am 14.03.20 um 15:18 schrieb Gianluigi:
>>
>> > I hope you still have the strength to follow my awkward steps in Git.
>>
>> For sure!
>>
>> > These are my branches:
>> >   italian-traslations
>> > * master
>> >
>> > this is the master status:
>> > On branch master
>> > Your branch is ahead of 'origin/master' by 621 commits.
>> >   (use "git push" to publish your local commits)
>> > nothing to commit, working tree clean
>>
>> Look, it says, what should be done.
>> So please do a git push.
>>
>> > and this is the status of italian-traslations:
>> > On branch italian-traslations
>> > Your branch is up to date with 'origin/italian-traslations'.
>> > nothing to commit, working tree clean
>> >
>> > If I understand correctly, I could only work with the master.
>>
>> You can, if you want to. I would do that, only if you want to try
>> something new this would be a reason to create another branch.
>>
>> > To do this, I simply write to terminal:
>> >
>> > git branch -d italian-traslations
>>
>> Yes. If there are commits in there which would be lost, it would
>> complain about that. So just do it and watch what happens.
>>
>> > Or is the matter more complex?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> > If I am alone with master, I just need to import the latest translations
>> > (saved in backup) and do:
>> > add, commit and push
>> >
>> > then ask for merge, correct?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>
> Hi Christof,
> it seems to have worked (*), except that when I get to the merge GitLab
> replies:
> Sorry, your filter produced no results (
> https://paste.c-net.org/TeamworkLifetime )
> Can you help me fix the filter?
> I've already tried it to no avail
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> (*) deleting branch 'italian-traslations' that has been merged to
>          'refs/remotes/origin/italian-traslations', but not yet merged to
> HEAD.
> Ramo italian-traslations eliminato (era a40d381d5).
>
> And:
>
> $ git push
> Counting objects: 101, done.
> Delta compression using up to 8 threads.
> Compressing objects: 100% (100/100), done.
> Writing objects: 100% (101/101), 17.22 KiB | 2.46 MiB/s, done.
> Total 101 (delta 81), reused 0 (delta 0)
> remote: Resolving deltas: 100% (81/81), completed with 43 local objects.
> To gitlab.com:GianluigiOr/gambas.git
>    516de91f9..401ce521e  master -> master
>
>
Hi Christof,
New merge request: https://paste.c-net.org/PowwowVoice
It seems that to make a merge request you need to be on different branches.
I gave these commands:

$ git checkout -B italian-translations
Switched to a new branch 'italian-translations'

$ git status
On branch italian-translations
nothing to commit, working tree clean

See gitk: https://paste.c-net.org/VinceyPinkie

Now I should pass the translations that I have on master to the
italian-translations branch, can I make a cherry-pick on master?

$ git cherry-pick master ???

otherwise?

I await your instructions :-)

Regards
Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sun Mar 15 12:25:40 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 12:25:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Am 15.03.20 um 11:08 schrieb Gianluigi:

>...

Please quote only relevant things, not all. I can see all earlier mails.
Thank you!

> New merge request: https://paste.c-net.org/PowwowVoice
> It seems that to make a merge request you need to be on different branches.

You have to create a merge request in
https://gitlab.com/gambas

not in
https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas

But please read until end.

> I gave these commands:
> 
> $ git checkout -B italian-translations
> Switched to a new branch 'italian-translations'
> 
> $ git status
> On branch italian-translations
> nothing to commit, working tree clean
> 
> See gitk: https://paste.c-net.org/VinceyPinkie
> 
> Now I should pass the translations that I have on master to the
> italian-translations branch, can I make a cherry-pick on master?
>
> $ git cherry-pick master ???
>

Ok, I cannot see the working dir on your computer, but only the things
on Gitlab.

Your branch master there:
https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas/-/commits/master

Is ahead of
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas

with one commit. This is great.

So now you can in Gitlab go to the Gambas repository:
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas

And there create the merge request to merge the single commit
401ce521e7b5c4b18a85c9af8e47a85d0beb6cd7 (in short: 401ce521)
which is in
https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas/-/commits/master
so that Beno?t can merge it.

Ok, please do it.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

After that (but can also be done now): The branches
italian-translations and italian-traslations
are not needed any more. I would delete them and continue work on master
on the local computer.

This master on the local computer has to be rebased (or merged)
regularly from upstream/master.

If you do further changes commit them and then push them to
origin/master which is your personal fork of Gambas on Gitlab.

And then you can create further merge requests to integrate your work in
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Mar 15 14:31:15 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
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Il giorno dom 15 mar 2020 alle ore 12:26 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> ...
>
> So now you can in Gitlab go to the Gambas repository:
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas
>
> And there create the merge request to merge the single commit
> 401ce521e7b5c4b18a85c9af8e47a85d0beb6cd7 (in short: 401ce521)
> which is in
> https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas/-/commits/master
> so that Beno?t can merge it.
>
> Ok, please do it.
>
>
But I did this, I went there and what I see is not what I saw before (a
blue button for the merge).
The button is gone and if I go for a new merge I get what I showed you in
the images.
Isn't there a way to merge from a terminal?

Regards
Gianluigi
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:59:18 +0100
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The fact that I can't set the target branch probably stems from my initial
deletion of the fork.
I'm afraid that if Benoit doesn't intervene, I can't do anything from here.
See image:
https://paste.c-net.org/AppeaseTiptoe

Regards
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sun Mar 15 16:35:41 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 16:35:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Am 15.03.20 um 14:59 schrieb Gianluigi:

> The fact that I can't set the target branch probably stems from my
> initial deletion of the fork.

Yes, your Gambas repository on Gitlab is not a fork any more. Here are
the forks of Gambas:

https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/forks

So Gitlab cannot see the connection any more.

> I'm afraid that if Benoit doesn't intervene, I can't do anything from here.

No, Beno?t has not to do anything with it.

So .. the failure is in your [Gitlab-]project. I am not sure how to
restore the connection to the upstream.

Maybe you could delete it and fork new, I think this would be the
quickest. I am now in a hurry, so I am not able to do any recherche
until tomorrow afternoon. Please try to ask Google or the Gitlab help
how to restore a fork connection in Gitlab.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
Dies ist keine Signatur

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Mar 15 18:12:43 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:12:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno dom 15 mar 2020 alle ore 16:36 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Maybe you could delete it and fork new, I think this would be the
> quickest. I am now in a hurry, so I am not able to do any recherche
> until tomorrow afternoon. Please try to ask Google or the Gitlab help
> how to restore a fork connection in Gitlab.
>

I told you I have the certificate!
Just read this:
https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/settings/index.html#removing-a-fork-relationship

Now how do I create a new fork since it seems impossible to restore.
It also seems impossible to delete a project and then fork again, see image:
https://paste.c-net.org/SnottySweets

So does GitLab discriminate against idiots? It should be reported!

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 12:27:37 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:27:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno dom 15 mar 2020 alle ore 16:36 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Please try to ask Google or the Gitlab help
> how to restore a fork connection in Gitlab.
>

I just opened an issue on GitLab that describes the problem

Regards
Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar 16 16:15:05 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:15:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Hi,

Am 15.03.20 um 18:12 schrieb Gianluigi:

> Il giorno dom 15 mar 2020 alle ore 16:36 Christof Thalhofer
> <chrisml at deganius.de <mailto:chrisml at deganius.de>> ha scritto:
> 
>     Maybe you could delete it and fork new, I think this would be the
>     quickest. I am now in a hurry, so I am not able to do any recherche
>     until tomorrow afternoon. Please try to ask Google or the Gitlab help
>     how to restore a fork connection in Gitlab.
> 
> 
> I told you I have the certificate!

What do you mean? I do not understand.

> Just read this:
> https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/settings/index.html#removing-a-fork-relationship
> 
> Now how do I create a new fork since it seems impossible to restore.
> It also seems impossible to delete a project and then fork again, see image:
> https://paste.c-net.org/SnottySweets
> 
> So does GitLab discriminate against idiots? It should be reported!

No, no, no, you're on an wrong way. If you read the text carefully, you
will see that it says nothing of what you are afraid of.

I also had a fork and have deleted it a while ago. Now ? yesterday
evening ? I tried to create a new one, just to test. No problem.

If you are not able to recreate the connection you can delete the fork
and later create a new one. Just try it.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
[x] nail here for new monitor

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 18:38:49 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:38:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno lun 16 mar 2020 alle ore 16:16 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

>
> > I told you I have the certificate!
>
> What do you mean? I do not understand.
>

I was referring to what was said in the previous emails, the certificate of
idiot :-)


> ...
> > So does GitLab discriminate against idiots? It should be reported!
>
> No, no, no, you're on an wrong way. If you read the text carefully, you
> will see that it says nothing of what you are afraid of.
>
> I also had a fork and have deleted it a while ago. Now ? yesterday
> evening ? I tried to create a new one, just to test. No problem.
>
> If you are not able to recreate the connection you can delete the fork
> and later create a new one. Just try it.
>

You say so but I have tried several times to restore the fork and GitLab
replies that it already exists.
You see fork-1 e fork-2:
https://paste.c-net.org/TwilightDeclare
https://paste.c-net.org/WiselyHandout

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 19:26:35 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 19:26:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno lun 16 mar 2020 alle ore 16:16 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

>
> I also had a fork and have deleted it a while ago. Now ? yesterday
> evening ? I tried to create a new one, just to test. No problem.
>

I had done this too (about a year ago) and it worked, but now things seem
to have changed.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From philippe.valarcher at free.fr  Mon Mar 16 20:44:05 2020
From: philippe.valarcher at free.fr (Philippe Valarcher)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:44:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] segmentation error
Message-ID: <0c08185aeba0273ebcc1e0ab67ed7002106f2edc.camel@free.fr>



Hello,
I was testing wayland plasma (up to date) and I wanted to launch the
gambas IDE, nothing. So I redo the manipulation through a terminal:
"segmentation error". This is just for information because the previous
version of the IDE (3.14) worked under wayland. Right now wayland is
not yet finished but not very far from the exit of the tunnel and it
would be too silly to miss the boat for our favorite IDE. Another info,
the programs produced by the IDE, they run under wayland.
I'm not going to bother prog with that, it was little cooking.



-- 
Cordialement, Philippe Valarcher.
philippe.valarcher at free.fr

UNUS EX ALTERA

GNU/Linux KDE NEON User Edition 64 Bits
Lenovo T410 ThinkPad Intel(R) i5 CPU M 560 @ 2.67Ghz
Bonjour,
je testais plasma wayland (? jour) et j'ai voulu lancer 
l'IDE de gambas, rien. Donc je refais la manipulation ? travers un 
terminal :
"erreur de segmentation". Ceci juste pour information car 
la version pr?c?dente de l'IDE (3.14) fonctionnait sous wayland. Bon 
pour l'instant wayland n'est pas encore abouti mais pas tr?s loin de la 
sortie du tunnel et ce serait trop b?te de manquer le coche pour notre 
IDE favori. Autre info,  les programmes produit par l'IDE, eux tournent 
sous wayland.
Je ne vais pas emb?ter les prog avec ?a, c'?tait de la petite cuisine.
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 20:49:35 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:49:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] segmentation error
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Le 16/03/2020 ? 20:44, Philippe Valarcher a ?crit?:
> Bonjour,
> je testais plasma wayland (? jour) et j'ai voulu lancer l'IDE de gambas, 
> rien. Donc je refais la manipulation ? travers un terminal :
> "erreur de segmentation". Ceci juste pour information car la version 
> pr?c?dente de l'IDE (3.14) fonctionnait sous wayland. Bon pour l'instant 
> wayland n'est pas encore abouti mais pas tr?s loin de la sortie du 
> tunnel et ce serait trop b?te de manquer le coche pour notre IDE favori. 
> Autre info, les programmes produit par l'IDE, eux tournent sous wayland.
> Je ne vais pas emb?ter les prog avec ?a, c'?tait de la petite cuisine.
> 
> Hello,
> I was testing wayland plasma (up to date) and I wanted to launch the 
> gambas IDE, nothing. So I redo the manipulation through a terminal:
> "segmentation error". This is just for information because the previous 
> version of the IDE (3.14) worked under wayland. Right now wayland is not 
> yet finished but not very far from the exit of the tunnel and it would 
> be too silly to miss the boat for our favorite IDE. Another info, the 
> programs produced by the IDE, they run under wayland.
> I'm not going to bother prog with that, it was little cooking.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Cordialement, Philippe Valarcher.
> philippe.valarcher at free.fr <mailto:philippe.valarcher at free.fr>
> 
> 
> UNUS EX ALTERA
> 
> GNU/Linux KDE NEON User Edition 64 Bits
> Lenovo T410 ThinkPad Intel(R) i5 CPU M 560 @ 2.67Ghz
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

While I don't have Wayland on my computer, I can't test it.

On wayland, the IDE, as an X11 application, is run under X-Wayland. I 
don't know why it would crash then.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar 16 21:56:26 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 21:56:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Am 16.03.20 um 18:38 schrieb Gianluigi:

> I was referring to what was said in the previous emails, the certificate
> of idiot :-)

Oh Jesus! And I thought about further complications. I was thinking
about SSH-certificates which are necessary for communication to Github ...

Can you please stop joking around until we've got this thing done? And
if you apologize, I will force you to flagellate yourself!!!

;-)

:-)

Ok, let's go on:

> You say so but I have tried several times to restore the fork and GitLab
> replies that it already exists.
> You see fork-1 e fork-2:
> https://paste.c-net.org/TwilightDeclare
> https://paste.c-net.org/WiselyHandout

No it says, the name already exists. And it is right:

https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas

As long as this (Gitlab-)project exists, Gitlab will refuse to create it
new.

So:

* Try to rename/close/whatever it and then fork new.

Or:

* Try to delete it and then fork new. In this case you will have to wait
a few days (as I understood Gitlab)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 22:49:15 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 22:49:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno lun 16 mar 2020 alle ore 21:57 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

>
> Can you please stop joking around until we've got this thing done? And
> if you apologize, I will force you to flagellate yourself!!!
>


;-D


> * Try to rename/close/whatever it and then fork new.
>
>
Are you suggesting me to change my username?
Tomorrow I try to investigate the problems I will face

Regards
Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar 16 23:00:53 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 23:00:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Am 16.03.20 um 22:49 schrieb Gianluigi:

> Are you suggesting me to change my username?
> Tomorrow I try to investigate the problems I will face

No. The project with the name "gambas" exists in your personal space in
Gitlab:

https://gitlab.com/GianluigiOr/gambas

So if you want to fork https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas into your space,
Gitlab refuses it with this error:

https://paste.c-net.org/WiselyHandout

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 23:15:31 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 23:15:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Il giorno lun 16 mar 2020 alle ore 23:01 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

>
> No. The project with the name "gambas" exists in your personal space in
> Gitlab:
>
>
So I should venture into virtuosity like:
I create a group
I move the Gambas project there
Should my space be cleared and could I fork Gambas again?
Provided that it can be done...

Regards
Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Mar 16 23:49:08 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 23:49:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Let me ask you a question about Git and GitLab
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Am 16.03.20 um 23:15 schrieb Gianluigi:

> So I should venture into virtuosity like:
> I create a group
> I move the Gambas project there
> Should my space be cleared and could I fork Gambas again?
> Provided that it can be done...

I am not really familiar with Gitlab and it's features. Maybe that is
possible, just play around. I think you can't do anything wrong.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From arothe at phosco.info  Fri Mar 20 19:50:24 2020
From: arothe at phosco.info (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9_Rothe?=)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:50:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Clear console
Message-ID: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>

Hi,

I try to teach my children how they can develop applications with a 
BASIC dialect.
My choice is Gambas3, but I don't have any experiences with the 
language. The last BASIC
program I developed 30 years ago with AmigaBasic. So please, be 
patient...

Currently I only use the console window for input and output to let 
programs be simple and stupid. I need a statement to clear the console 
window, in the former dialects there was such as SCRCLR for "Screen 
Clear" or CLS (for "Clear Screen"). How I can emulate this?

Thanks
Andr?

From lapisdecor at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 20:05:07 2020
From: lapisdecor at gmail.com (Luis Louro)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:05:07 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Clear console
In-Reply-To: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
References: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
Message-ID: <CAH19H-W54wBqsmJ3uc99j7TLsLHxgE2HF2Kbs-xmu3z-ze4MoA@mail.gmail.com>

You can do a for next with a print inside for example.

Na(o) sexta, 20/03/2020, 19:00, Andr? Rothe <arothe at phosco.info> escreveu:

> Hi,
>
> I try to teach my children how they can develop applications with a
> BASIC dialect.
> My choice is Gambas3, but I don't have any experiences with the
> language. The last BASIC
> program I developed 30 years ago with AmigaBasic. So please, be
> patient...
>
> Currently I only use the console window for input and output to let
> programs be simple and stupid. I need a statement to clear the console
> window, in the former dialects there was such as SCRCLR for "Screen
> Clear" or CLS (for "Clear Screen"). How I can emulate this?
>
> Thanks
> Andr?
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr  Fri Mar 20 20:06:16 2020
From: olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr (Yahoo)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 15:06:16 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Clear console
In-Reply-To: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
References: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
Message-ID: <etPan.5e751428.5c3a175b.bf35@yahoo.fr>

Hello Andr?,

Could you be a little more explicit in your explication please.

Do you need command to clear a Window terminal in Linux or clear screen in a Gambas program ?


Olivier

Le 20 mars 2020 ? 15:00:07, Andr? Rothe (arothe at phosco.info) a ?crit:

Hi,

I try to teach my children how they can develop applications with a  
BASIC dialect.
My choice is Gambas3, but I don't have any experiences with the  
language. The last BASIC
program I developed 30 years ago with AmigaBasic. So please, be  
patient...

Currently I only use the console window for input and output to let  
programs be simple and stupid. I need a statement to clear the console  
window, in the former dialects there was such as SCRCLR for "Screen  
Clear" or CLS (for "Clear Screen"). How I can emulate this?

Thanks
Andr?

----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 20:26:30 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 15:26:30 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Clear console
In-Reply-To: <etPan.5e751428.5c3a175b.bf35@yahoo.fr>
References: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
 <etPan.5e751428.5c3a175b.bf35@yahoo.fr>
Message-ID: <9e9ed004-281c-8599-4b49-6b145bd7f827@gmail.com>

On 3/20/20 3:06 PM, Yahoo via User wrote:
> Hello Andr?,
> 
> Could you be a little more explicit in your explication please.
> 
> Do you need command to clear a Window terminal in Linux or clear screen in a Gambas program ?
> 
> 
> Olivier

I think Andre wants to do both; ie. clear a window terminal (console) screen from within a Gambas program.

The only manner of doing that I'm aware of is to use the shell's `clear` command by using Gambas' 'SHELL' command:
Shell "clear"

It doesn't actually fully clear the screen, but the appearance is that it did.


-- 
Lee

From arothe at phosco.info  Fri Mar 20 20:43:42 2020
From: arothe at phosco.info (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9_Rothe?=)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:43:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Clear console
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Message-ID: <f01c1024ec0e9e1ada46eac0783f8d36@phosco.info>

Am 20.03.2020 20:26, schrieb T Lee Davidson:
> On 3/20/20 3:06 PM, Yahoo via User wrote:
>> Hello Andr?,
>> 
>> Could you be a little more explicit in your explication please.
>> 
>> Do you need command to clear a Window terminal in Linux or clear 
>> screen in a Gambas program ?
>> 
>> 
>> Olivier
> 
> I think Andre wants to do both; ie. clear a window terminal (console)
> screen from within a Gambas program.

Yes, it's right.

> The only manner of doing that I'm aware of is to use the shell's
> `clear` command by using Gambas' 'SHELL' command:
> Shell "clear"

I'll try this.
Thank you.

From arothe at phosco.info  Fri Mar 20 20:59:35 2020
From: arothe at phosco.info (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9_Rothe?=)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:59:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Clear console
In-Reply-To: <f01c1024ec0e9e1ada46eac0783f8d36@phosco.info>
References: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
 <etPan.5e751428.5c3a175b.bf35@yahoo.fr>
 <9e9ed004-281c-8599-4b49-6b145bd7f827@gmail.com>
 <f01c1024ec0e9e1ada46eac0783f8d36@phosco.info>
Message-ID: <17692e52f0baf879f07b8234e761e98c@phosco.info>

private Sub Cls()
    Shell "/usr/bin/clear" Wait
end

Unfortunately it doesn't work within the IDE console window.

From arothe at phosco.info  Fri Mar 20 21:12:18 2020
From: arothe at phosco.info (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9_Rothe?=)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 21:12:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Clear console
In-Reply-To: <CAH19H-W54wBqsmJ3uc99j7TLsLHxgE2HF2Kbs-xmu3z-ze4MoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
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Message-ID: <081c989ce62c69c32e797a418ff7378c@phosco.info>

Am 20.03.2020 20:05, schrieb Luis Louro:
> You can do a for next with a print inside for example.

Yes, I could do that. But how many loops I have to process?

~Andr?

From lapisdecor at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 21:25:12 2020
From: lapisdecor at gmail.com (Luis Louro)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:25:12 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Clear console
In-Reply-To: <081c989ce62c69c32e797a418ff7378c@phosco.info>
References: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
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Message-ID: <CAH19H-X_f-iU3R0emVHkPjC8UuPrasUGwHHx_TmLObh+eiKXFg@mail.gmail.com>

I dont know. You must try and and see until you find tour answer.

Cheers,
Luis

Na(o) sexta, 20/03/2020, 20:13, Andr? Rothe <arothe at phosco.info> escreveu:

> Am 20.03.2020 20:05, schrieb Luis Louro:
> > You can do a for next with a print inside for example.
>
> Yes, I could do that. But how many loops I have to process?
>
> ~Andr?
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 21:46:43 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 21:46:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Clear console
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References: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
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Le 20/03/2020 ? 20:59, Andr? Rothe a ?crit?:
> private Sub Cls()
>  ?? Shell "/usr/bin/clear" Wait
> end
> 
> Unfortunately it doesn't work within the IDE console window.
> 

It works here. Which version of Gambas do you use?

By the way, the terminals on Linux with GUI are terminal emulators.

These terminals are complex beasts that use special character sequences 
for commands like clearing the screen.

The Gambas virtual terminal (now used by the IDE console) is a VT-100 
terminal. Clearing the screen is done by issuing the sequence "\e[2J".

I think all GUI terminal emulators (on KDE, Gnome...) is VT-100 compatible.

In the past, when Unix meant a mainframe connected to a lot of possibly 
different terminals, you had to use the "ncurses" library that provides 
the needed API to manipulate any terminal type. It's still needed today, 
but it's easier to assume VT-100 compatibility.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Fri Mar 20 23:38:01 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 23:38:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Clear console
In-Reply-To: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
References: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
Message-ID: <d9bafb14-f33a-f97d-247f-c26ec434a05c@osnanet.de>

Have you tried "clear"? That is the terminal command for it.

Shell "clear"

should do. At least if you really program terminal window programs. But 
maybe I've got you wrong...

Regards

Rolf



Am 20.03.2020 um 19:50 schrieb Andr? Rothe:
> Hi,
>
> I try to teach my children how they can develop applications with a 
> BASIC dialect.
> My choice is Gambas3, but I don't have any experiences with the 
> language. The last BASIC
> program I developed 30 years ago with AmigaBasic. So please, be 
> patient...
>
> Currently I only use the console window for input and output to let 
> programs be simple and stupid. I need a statement to clear the console 
> window, in the former dialects there was such as SCRCLR for "Screen 
> Clear" or CLS (for "Clear Screen"). How I can emulate this?
>
> Thanks
> Andr?
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>


From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Sat Mar 21 00:53:25 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 01:53:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Clear console
In-Reply-To: <d9bafb14-f33a-f97d-247f-c26ec434a05c@osnanet.de>
References: <f55ee5726b7c742b09c4c57ad10c716c@phosco.info>
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Message-ID: <CAFJMe7T-8f8-U22US2sgQPccdzG+gbYmK56BQ62vNDmaCE6kJA@mail.gmail.com>

Shell "reboot"  might be bit overkill...


Jussi

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 12:39 AM Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de>
wrote:

> Have you tried "clear"? That is the terminal command for it.
>
> Shell "clear"
>
> should do. At least if you really program terminal window programs. But
> maybe I've got you wrong...
>
> Regards
>
> Rolf
>
>
>
> Am 20.03.2020 um 19:50 schrieb Andr? Rothe:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I try to teach my children how they can develop applications with a
> > BASIC dialect.
> > My choice is Gambas3, but I don't have any experiences with the
> > language. The last BASIC
> > program I developed 30 years ago with AmigaBasic. So please, be
> > patient...
> >
> > Currently I only use the console window for input and output to let
> > programs be simple and stupid. I need a statement to clear the console
> > window, in the former dialects there was such as SCRCLR for "Screen
> > Clear" or CLS (for "Clear Screen"). How I can emulate this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Andr?
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
> >
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From patrik at trixon.se  Sat Mar 21 07:46:47 2020
From: patrik at trixon.se (=?UTF-8?Q?Patrik_Karlstr=C3=B6m?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 07:46:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Script vs Command Line Application
Message-ID: <CAArD4mB2QUAqaHyK4p-4fpnzc0RZY0dLk5zrAGF5XM3GcyVNhA@mail.gmail.com>

I was about to do some bash scripts in order to

   - Create 3 Java run times environment, one for each major os, with jlink
   - From one NetBeans application platform.zip
      - edit a text file
      - insert a JRE
   - Create an AppImage
   - Produce checksums

I'm already doing this semi-manual today and looking for a more automated
version.

Then Gambas came to my mind, but it was a couple of years since I used it,
and I've never touched scripts before

The question now is, should I go with a Script or a Command Line
Application?

What do you think?

Patrik
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From patrik at trixon.se  Sat Mar 21 08:13:53 2020
From: patrik at trixon.se (=?UTF-8?Q?Patrik_Karlstr=C3=B6m?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 08:13:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] No menus with KDE Plasma global menu
Message-ID: <CAArD4mDjwKAVBzWwpTiF+wDWW_6GKCCU5i6Jb7zV08JJoqDLmw@mail.gmail.com>

When using Plasmas global menu I get not menus what so ever in Gambas.
I get a "menu holder" that I can toggle with ctrl-alt-m, but no items.

In the past, there was an option to force the menu behavior, I think, could
not find one now though.
My problem back then, in Unity times, was that one got one local and one
global menu, at the same time.

When starting Gambas with
KDE_NO_GLOBAL_MENU=whatever gambas3

I get a local menu, but a global would be nice.

Patrik

[System]
Gambas=3.14.3
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.4.24-1-MANJARO
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Manjaro Linux
Desktop=KDE5
Theme=Breeze
Language=sv_SE.UTF-8
Memory=31980M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11703.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.6.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.11
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1602.0
GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2407.7
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.95.0.0
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From pebauer68 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 21 09:34:31 2020
From: pebauer68 at gmail.com (Peter Bauer)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 09:34:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gbx3, how and where to handle POLLHUP event ?
Message-ID: <CAATcmG4H6Boy6O5iw+AnKekLvKebQZL54bZ6zKyLAROyDVXOUg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
In which source file does gbx handle poll() callbacks to watch open files ?

High CPU load and fast repeating output from strace attached to gbx3
process:
poll([ {fd= 6, events = POLLIN}, {fd= 7, events = POLLIN}, {fd= 8, events =
POLLIN |POLLPRI}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN}], 4, 989) = 1 ([{fd=13,
revents=POLLHUP}])

Gambas example:
https://gambas.one/gambasfarm/?id=761&action=search
(must be run from a terminal to show the issue,issue not visible in gambas
IDE !)

I would like to look if it is possible to handle an incoming pipe when the
sender
process has ended. In this case the pipe should no longer be watched and
just be closed and/or an error should be thrown. I found a C source code
example for this:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5857461/how-to-use-the-poll-c-function-to-watch-named-pipes-in-linux/44126952#44126952

[System]
Gambas=3.14.90 a59dfb169 (master)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=4.15.0-88-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS
Desktop=MATE
Theme=Fusion
Language=en_US.UTF-8
Memory=15868M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11510.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.5.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.4
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1405.0
GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2200.30
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.0.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.57.0.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.73.0.0
QT4=libQtCore.so.4.8.7
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.9.5
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6

[Environment]
COMPIZ_CONFIG_PROFILE=mate
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-xW4AH1pxYD,guid=78dee8a13ae9ae16412773225e6b56da
DESKTOP_SESSION=mate
DISPLAY=:0
GB_GUI=gb.qt5
GDMSESSION=mate
GDM_LANG=en
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=<home>/Schreibtisch/Gambas3.desktop
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=7578
GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
HOME=<home>
INSIDE_CAJA_PYTHON=
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_NAME=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=de_AT.UTF-8
LC_TIME=de_AT.UTF-8
LOGNAME=<user>
MATE_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
PAPERSIZE=a4
PATH=<home>/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin:/usr/local/lib/node_modules/:<home>/rakudo/rakudo-2020.01/bin/:<home>/bin:<home>/rakudo/rakudo-2020.01/share/perl6/site/bin:<home>/rakudo/rakudo-2020.01/
PWD=<home>
QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0
QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1
SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/5255,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/5255
SHELL=/bin/bash
SHLVL=0
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
TZ=:/etc/localtime
USER=<user>
XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-mate:/etc/xdg
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=MATE
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/mate:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/var/lib/snapd/desktop
XDG_GREETER_DATA_DIR=/var/lib/lightdm-data/<user>
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=mate
XDG_SESSION_ID=c2
XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
XDG_VTNR=7


Best Regards,
Peter Bauer
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From taboege at gmail.com  Sat Mar 21 13:37:36 2020
From: taboege at gmail.com (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:37:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Script vs Command Line Application
In-Reply-To: <CAArD4mB2QUAqaHyK4p-4fpnzc0RZY0dLk5zrAGF5XM3GcyVNhA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAArD4mB2QUAqaHyK4p-4fpnzc0RZY0dLk5zrAGF5XM3GcyVNhA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200321123736.GA2655638@highrise.localdomain>

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020, Patrik Karlstr?m wrote:
> I was about to do some bash scripts in order to
> 
>    - Create 3 Java run times environment, one for each major os, with jlink
>    - From one NetBeans application platform.zip
>       - edit a text file
>       - insert a JRE
>    - Create an AppImage
>    - Produce checksums
> 
> I'm already doing this semi-manual today and looking for a more automated
> version.
> 
> Then Gambas came to my mind, but it was a couple of years since I used it,
> and I've never touched scripts before
> 
> The question now is, should I go with a Script or a Command Line
> Application?
> 

Of the two types, Command Line Application is the one that is "native" to
Gambas. When you create a script and run it through gbs3, it takes your
source file and builds a command line project around it and then has gbc3
compile and gbx3 execute that temporary project. These projects are cached
in /tmp and a new one is created when your script source changes.

That is, scripts are mini-projects that get automatically recompiled when
needed. If your source doesn't change, they start up just as fast as pre-
compiled projects. The disadvantage of a script is that you are restricted
to a single source file. Note that you can still use components by writing
USE statements [1] at the top of your script. In particular gb.args can be
useful for utility scripts.

I tend to use scripts when the single-file restriction doesn't bother me
and when I may need to quickly edit them on a host which doesn't have the
Gambas IDE installed.

Regards,
Tobi

[1] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/use

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 21 13:58:04 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:58:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gbx3, how and where to handle POLLHUP event ?
In-Reply-To: <CAATcmG4H6Boy6O5iw+AnKekLvKebQZL54bZ6zKyLAROyDVXOUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAATcmG4H6Boy6O5iw+AnKekLvKebQZL54bZ6zKyLAROyDVXOUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8b634f2a-e2f3-d5d8-653c-839cae1bffbb@gmail.com>

Le 21/03/2020 ? 09:34, Peter Bauer a ?crit?:
> Hello,
> In which source file does gbx handle poll() callbacks to watch open files ?
> 
> High CPU load and fast repeating output from strace attached to gbx3 
> process:
> poll([ {fd= 6, events = POLLIN}, {fd= 7, events = POLLIN}, {fd= 8, 
> events = POLLIN |POLLPRI}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN}], 4, 989) = 1 
> ([{fd=13, revents=POLLHUP}])
> 
> Gambas example:
> https://gambas.one/gambasfarm/?id=761&action=search
> (must be run from a terminal to show the issue,issue not visible in 
> gambas IDE !)
> 
> I would like to look?if it is possible to handle an incoming pipe when 
> the sender
> process has ended. In this case the pipe should no longer be watched and 
> just be closed and/or an error?should be thrown. I found a C source code 
> example for this:
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5857461/how-to-use-the-poll-c-function-to-watch-named-pipes-in-linux/44126952#44126952
> 
> [System]
> Gambas=3.14.90 a59dfb169 (master)
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=4.15.0-88-generic
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS
> Desktop=MATE
> Theme=Fusion
> Language=en_US.UTF-8
> Memory=15868M
> 
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11510.0
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.5.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.4
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1405.0
> GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2200.30
> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.0.0
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.57.0.0
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.73.0.0
> QT4=libQtCore.so.4.8.7
> QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.9.5
> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
> SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6
> 
> [Environment]
> COMPIZ_CONFIG_PROFILE=mate
> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-xW4AH1pxYD,guid=78dee8a13ae9ae16412773225e6b56da
> DESKTOP_SESSION=mate
> DISPLAY=:0
> GB_GUI=gb.qt5
> GDMSESSION=mate
> GDM_LANG=en
> GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=<home>/Schreibtisch/Gambas3.desktop
> GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=7578
> GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
> HOME=<home>
> INSIDE_CAJA_PYTHON=
> JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
> LC_ADDRESS=de_AT.UTF-8
> LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
> LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_AT.UTF-8
> LC_MEASUREMENT=de_AT.UTF-8
> LC_MONETARY=de_AT.UTF-8
> LC_NAME=de_AT.UTF-8
> LC_NUMERIC=de_AT.UTF-8
> LC_PAPER=de_AT.UTF-8
> LC_TELEPHONE=de_AT.UTF-8
> LC_TIME=de_AT.UTF-8
> LOGNAME=<user>
> MATE_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
> PAPERSIZE=a4
> PATH=<home>/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin:/usr/local/lib/node_modules/:<home>/rakudo/rakudo-2020.01/bin/:<home>/bin:<home>/rakudo/rakudo-2020.01/share/perl6/site/bin:<home>/rakudo/rakudo-2020.01/
> PWD=<home>
> QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0
> QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
> QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1
> SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/5255,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/5255
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> SHLVL=0
> SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
> TZ=:/etc/localtime
> USER=<user>
> XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
> XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-mate:/etc/xdg
> XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=MATE
> XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/mate:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/var/lib/snapd/desktop
> XDG_GREETER_DATA_DIR=/var/lib/lightdm-data/<user>
> XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
> XDG_SEAT=seat0
> XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
> XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=mate
> XDG_SESSION_ID=c2
> XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
> XDG_VTNR=7
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Peter Bauer
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

I will look at it.

Two remarks first:

- Why did you put the gbx3 executable inside your project???

- The event loop depends on the GUI component, so the behaviour is 
different between a command-line application, a QT application and a 
GTK+ application.

I wrote the interpreter event loop, but not the QT or GTK+ one, so maybe 
the problem comes from that difference.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 21 16:31:21 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 16:31:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gbx3, how and where to handle POLLHUP event ?
In-Reply-To: <8b634f2a-e2f3-d5d8-653c-839cae1bffbb@gmail.com>
References: <CAATcmG4H6Boy6O5iw+AnKekLvKebQZL54bZ6zKyLAROyDVXOUg@mail.gmail.com>
 <8b634f2a-e2f3-d5d8-653c-839cae1bffbb@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e12501e1-b63c-c36d-1d97-a0a6fa50968e@gmail.com>

Le 21/03/2020 ? 13:58, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit?:
> Le 21/03/2020 ? 09:34, Peter Bauer a ?crit?:
>> Hello,
>> In which source file does gbx handle poll() callbacks to watch open 
>> files ?
>>
>> High CPU load and fast repeating output from strace attached to gbx3 
>> process:
>> poll([ {fd= 6, events = POLLIN}, {fd= 7, events = POLLIN}, {fd= 8, 
>> events = POLLIN |POLLPRI}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN}], 4, 989) = 1 
>> ([{fd=13, revents=POLLHUP}])
>>
>> Gambas example:
>> https://gambas.one/gambasfarm/?id=761&action=search
>> (must be run from a terminal to show the issue,issue not visible in 
>> gambas IDE !)
>>
>> I would like to look?if it is possible to handle an incoming pipe when 
>> the sender
>> process has ended. In this case the pipe should no longer be watched 
>> and just be closed and/or an error?should be thrown. I found a C 
>> source code example for this:
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5857461/how-to-use-the-poll-c-function-to-watch-named-pipes-in-linux/44126952#44126952 
>>
> 
> I will look at it.
> 
> Two remarks first:
> 
> - Why did you put the gbx3 executable inside your project???
> 
> - The event loop depends on the GUI component, so the behaviour is 
> different between a command-line application, a QT application and a 
> GTK+ application.
> 
> I wrote the interpreter event loop, but not the QT or GTK+ one, so maybe 
> the problem comes from that difference.
> 
> Regards,
> 

I confirm that with gb.gtk it eats 100% CPU. With gb.qt only 1.0%.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sat Mar 21 16:39:41 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:39:41 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] No menus with KDE Plasma global menu
In-Reply-To: <CAArD4mDjwKAVBzWwpTiF+wDWW_6GKCCU5i6Jb7zV08JJoqDLmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAArD4mDjwKAVBzWwpTiF+wDWW_6GKCCU5i6Jb7zV08JJoqDLmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c1f75462-6c8f-7140-a232-5871e239940c@gmail.com>

On 3/21/20 3:13 AM, Patrik Karlstr?m wrote:
> When using Plasmas global menu I get not menus what so ever in Gambas.
> I get a "menu holder" that I can toggle with ctrl-alt-m, but no items.
> 
> In the past, there was an option to force the menu behavior, I think, could not find one now though.
> My problem back then, in Unity times, was that one got one local and one global menu, at the same time.
> 
> When starting Gambas with
> KDE_NO_GLOBAL_MENU=whatever gambas3
> 
> I get a local menu, but a global would be nice.
> 
> Patrik
> 
> [System]
> Gambas=3.14.3
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=5.4.24-1-MANJARO
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=Manjaro Linux
> Desktop=KDE5
> Theme=Breeze
> Language=sv_SE.UTF-8
> Memory=31980M
> 
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11703.0
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.6.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.11
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1602.0
> GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2407.7
> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.95.0.0
> QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.14.1
> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
> SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6
> 

On my system, there actually are menu buttons for Gambas on the global menu. But, the only two are so skinny the text is not 
visible, and the menu cannot be resized horizontally.


-- 
Lee

[System]
Gambas=3.14.3
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=4.12.14-lp151.28.40-default
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=openSUSE Leap 15.1
Desktop=KDE5
Theme=Breeze
Language=en_US.UTF-8
Memory=16030M

[Libraries]
Cairo=/usr/lib64/libcairo.so.2.11510.0
Curl=/usr/lib64/libcurl.so.4.5.0
DBus=/usr/lib64/libdbus-1.so.3.19.4
GStreamer=/usr/lib64/libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1205.0
GTK+2=/usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GTK+3=/usr/lib64/libgtk-3.so.0.2200.30
OpenGL=/usr/lib64/libGL.so.1.0.0
Poppler=/usr/lib64/libpoppler.so.73.0.0
QT4=/usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4.8.7
QT5=/usr/lib64/libQt5Core.so.5.9.7
SDL=/usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=/usr/lib64/libsqlite3.so.0.8.6

From pebauer68 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 22 13:19:18 2020
From: pebauer68 at gmail.com (Peter Bauer)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2020 13:19:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gbx3, how and where to handle POLLHUP event ?
Message-ID: <CAATcmG67sP7mo9tAreAzgLTv9EOm7PdbNMrKgTfqp4dhuRLGPw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Sorry, in future I will put all executables outside of the application
project.
I had built a gbx3 version with additional debug output enabled, but this
did not help me to trace the issue.
Thank you very much for your work on Gambas. If I compare it with other
projects in the open source space it is in very good shape. I have tried to
use
the poll() and epoll() module implementation in Python3.8.2 and saw that
there is currently no working implementation for files/streams - only
sockets now (also in linux). In Gambas most things work perfect just out of
the "box".

BR,
Peter Bauer

-----------------------------
I will look at it.

Two remarks first:

- Why did you put the gbx3 executable inside your project???

- The event loop depends on the GUI component, so the behaviour is
different between a command-line application, a QT application and a
GTK+ application.

I wrote the interpreter event loop, but not the QT or GTK+ one, so maybe
the problem comes from that difference.
Regards,
--
Beno?t Minisini
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From patrik at trixon.se  Sun Mar 22 17:06:13 2020
From: patrik at trixon.se (=?UTF-8?Q?Patrik_Karlstr=C3=B6m?=)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2020 17:06:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Script vs Command Line Application
In-Reply-To: <20200321123736.GA2655638@highrise.localdomain>
References: <CAArD4mB2QUAqaHyK4p-4fpnzc0RZY0dLk5zrAGF5XM3GcyVNhA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAArD4mBOdzSaP-ynG3FPfk0B+xLdfQqy65TH-rCw5z=yG-jeCg@mail.gmail.com>

Den l?r 21 mars 2020 kl 13:38 skrev Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com>:

> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020, Patrik Karlstr?m wrote:
> > I was about to do some bash scripts in order to
> >
> >    - Create 3 Java run times environment, one for each major os, with
> jlink
> >    - From one NetBeans application platform.zip
> >       - edit a text file
> >       - insert a JRE
> >    - Create an AppImage
> >    - Produce checksums
> >
> > I'm already doing this semi-manual today and looking for a more automated
> > version.
> >
> > Then Gambas came to my mind, but it was a couple of years since I used
> it,
> > and I've never touched scripts before
> >
> > The question now is, should I go with a Script or a Command Line
> > Application?
> >
>
> Of the two types, Command Line Application is the one that is "native" to
> Gambas. When you create a script and run it through gbs3, it takes your
> source file and builds a command line project around it and then has gbc3
> compile and gbx3 execute that temporary project. These projects are cached
> in /tmp and a new one is created when your script source changes.
>
> That is, scripts are mini-projects that get automatically recompiled when
> needed. If your source doesn't change, they start up just as fast as pre-
> compiled projects. The disadvantage of a script is that you are restricted
> to a single source file. Note that you can still use components by writing
> USE statements [1] at the top of your script. In particular gb.args can be
> useful for utility scripts.
>
> I tend to use scripts when the single-file restriction doesn't bother me
> and when I may need to quickly edit them on a host which doesn't have the
> Gambas IDE installed.
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>
> [1] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/use
>
>
Thank you Tobi, the single-file restriction makes me go for a Command Line
Application.
After one more day of thinking I might slap a gui on it later on, so that
confirms my decision for a CLA.

Thanks again,

/Patrik
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From georgioskalogiannis at gmail.com  Tue Mar 24 09:16:46 2020
From: georgioskalogiannis at gmail.com (Georgios Kalogiannis)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 10:16:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] datasource
Message-ID: <CACP+Ep_U-ovkWOgfeQ02xu_OWb1kA75pPrkK+OdNANMbQ8+ykw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello

I am using gambas ver 3.14.3.
On a graphical database application, I have set a connection with the
option Remember password checked and the connection to the database is
successfully.
On the form I put a datasource control with the properties connection set
to above connection and I can choose a table from the property table on the
graphical interface.
Up to here I have no write any code.
When I run the program I get the error message "Access denied for user ...
(using password:NO")
Do I missing something ?
Do I have to write code for the password ?


best regards

Georgios
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Mar 24 17:07:35 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 12:07:35 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] datasource
In-Reply-To: <CACP+Ep_U-ovkWOgfeQ02xu_OWb1kA75pPrkK+OdNANMbQ8+ykw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACP+Ep_U-ovkWOgfeQ02xu_OWb1kA75pPrkK+OdNANMbQ8+ykw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f393407-1ab8-9ea2-b923-9872b40edba9@gmail.com>

On 3/24/20 4:16 AM, Georgios Kalogiannis wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am using gambas ver 3.14.3.
> On a graphical?database application, I have set a connection with the option Remember password checked and the connection to the 
> database is successfully.
> On the form I put a datasource control with the properties connection set to above connection and I can choose a table from the 
> property table on the graphical interface.
> Up to here I have no write any code.
> When I run the program I get the error?message "Access denied for user ... (using password:NO")
> Do I missing something??
> Do I have to write code for the password ?
> 
> 
> best regards
> 
> Georgios
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

"You have to check the gb.desktop component in your project if you want the password connection entered through the IDE to be 
automatically retrieved.

Otherwise you will have to provide it yourself."

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.db/connections


-- 
Lee

From ub2 at gmx.ch  Wed Mar 25 10:21:48 2020
From: ub2 at gmx.ch (ub2 at gmx.ch)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 10:21:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to duplicate Controls with all its preferences at
 runtime
In-Reply-To: <e3ab54c2-d579-589d-5248-da1253dfe43b@gmx.ch>
References: <CAFJMe7Rb8y_bdJdXBPJWvahDt4va4iVjkuJ+jorzYKPwumkk3g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <f39f8ebf-6286-2265-1fab-212868323d7d@gmx.ch>

Dear Gambas Cracks


I'm fiddling since 2 days, code explodes, and I'm sure there must be a
better way ...


I'd like to duplicate at runtime various Controls (different types!)
with all it's preferences (Formatting, Pictures, etc).

The situation:
In a scrollview I have "a well prepared Master-Controls-line" like
TglBtn_...._0 | Txta_....._0  | Txtlbl_..._0 | Pixcb_..._0 | ...

In order to get new "Record-Lines" I'd like to duplicate all those
Master-Controls them with the clumsy code partially shown in
	Attachement 200325...
and access the Controls later with:
	$Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._1
	$Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._2
		...

I'd like to avoid SubForms like:
     $NewUFrm$ = New UFrmXYZ($RecNr$, ..., ..., $Scrvw$)
because access to those new Controls becomes more complicated:
	$Txtlbl_...._0$ = UFrmXYZ(Me.Scrvw.Children[0]).Children[2]


My Question:
Is there a command like:
    $Ctrl_New$ = NewWithPrefs Control($CtrlParent$)
    $Ctrl_New$ = Duplicate Control($CtrlParent$)
    ore similar

Any ideas, links, keywords, etc would be highly appreciated.


Thanks for Gambas and this very helpful community.
Take care and stay healthy

ub2


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From way at gmx.li  Thu Mar 26 11:21:51 2020
From: way at gmx.li (Weg)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 11:21:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with YAxe Description in Chart.gb
Message-ID: <c38e0eee-9f7b-8bdb-0509-802de18e7de7@gmx.li>

Hello

Im using Chart.gb, but sometimes (it depend on the linevalues of the
chart) the Description of the YAxe is not shown.
I still played around a very long time.
I created a added a Demo Project and some screenshoots.
In some cases of linedatas, the Description of YAxe and the Lines are
not shown.

Is this a bug?
Thank you
Tom,..

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From ub2 at gmx.ch  Thu Mar 26 12:00:06 2020
From: ub2 at gmx.ch (ub2 at gmx.ch)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 12:00:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to duplicate Ctrls with preferences at runtime (2)
In-Reply-To: <f39f8ebf-6286-2265-1fab-212868323d7d@gmx.ch>
References: <f39f8ebf-6286-2265-1fab-212868323d7d@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <94f69b7c-1959-0334-50e6-bff97db2dcc4@gmx.ch>

Dear Gambas Cracks

2nd try, 1st see below
(Was user at lists.gambas-basic.org partially down yesterday ?)

Best regards
ub2


-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: How to duplicate Controls with all its preferences at runtime
Datum: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 10:21:48 +0100
Von: ub2 at gmx.ch <ub2 at gmx.ch>
An: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
Kopie (CC): ub2 at gmx.ch

Dear Gambas Cracks


I'm fiddling since 2 days, code explodes, and I'm sure there must be a
better way ...


I'd like to duplicate at runtime various Controls (different types!)
with all it's preferences (Formatting, Pictures, etc).

The situation:
In a scrollview I have "a well prepared Master-Controls-line" like
TglBtn_...._0 | Txta_....._0  | Txtlbl_..._0 | Pixcb_..._0 | ...

In order to get new "Record-Lines" I'd like to duplicate all those
Master-Controls them with the clumsy code partially shown in
	Attachement 200325...
and access the Controls later with:
	$Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._1
	$Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._2
		...

I'd like to avoid SubForms like:
     $NewUFrm$ = New UFrmXYZ($RecNr$, ..., ..., $Scrvw$)
because access to those new Controls becomes more complicated:
	$Txtlbl_...._0$ = UFrmXYZ(Me.Scrvw.Children[0]).Children[2]


My Question:
Is there a command like:
    $Ctrl_New$ = NewWithPrefs Control($CtrlParent$)
    $Ctrl_New$ = Duplicate Control($CtrlParent$)
    ore similar

Any ideas, links, keywords, etc would be highly appreciated.


Thanks for Gambas and this very helpful community.
Take care and stay healthy

ub2



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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Mar 26 13:58:46 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 13:58:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with YAxe Description in Chart.gb
In-Reply-To: <c38e0eee-9f7b-8bdb-0509-802de18e7de7@gmx.li>
References: <c38e0eee-9f7b-8bdb-0509-802de18e7de7@gmx.li>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFaiP_c2hnxtQfzfSu=mUeXA1sACkWfT7763uRB10cEP7g@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno gio 26 mar 2020 alle ore 11:22 Weg <way at gmx.li> ha scritto:

> Hello
> ...
>

Try like this (*)

Regards
Gianluigi

(*)
Public Sub LoadGraph(Optional Random As Boolean = False)

  Dim ii As Long

  MyChart = New Chart

  MyChart.Title.Text = "Example"
  MyChart.CountDataSets = 1

  If (Random) Then
    MyChart.YAxe.MaxValue = 6000
    MyChart.YAxe.MinValue = 0
    MyChart.YAxe.Step = 200
  Else
    MyChart.YAxe.MaxValue = 160000
    MyChart.YAxe.MinValue = 16000
    MyChart.YAxe.Step = 5000
  Endif

  For Each captions

    MyChart.Headers.Values.Add(captions[captions.Key])

    MyChart[0].Values.Add(0)

    If (Random) Then
      MyChart[0].Values[ii] = Rand(100, 6000)
    Else
      MyChart[0].Values[ii] = values[ii]
    End If

    ii += 1

  Next

  lbl_Firstvalue.Caption = MyChart[0].Values[0]

  MyChart.Type = ChartType.Lines
  MyChart.BackGround = Color.Yellow

  DrawingArea1.Refresh

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From olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr  Thu Mar 26 14:01:41 2020
From: olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr (Yahoo)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 09:01:41 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to duplicate Ctrls with preferences at
 runtime (2)
In-Reply-To: <94f69b7c-1959-0334-50e6-bff97db2dcc4@gmx.ch>
References: <f39f8ebf-6286-2265-1fab-212868323d7d@gmx.ch>
 <94f69b7c-1959-0334-50e6-bff97db2dcc4@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <etPan.5e7ca7b5.2cf17d97.160e7@yahoo.fr>

Hello,

I?m not sure to understand exactly your request, but I think you could use Form embedded, as like you don?t want to use, but adding Properties at the Form ?Template?, so it will really easy to access to the various children inside.

To identify each Form embedded included into your main Form, add a Property for that, like IdForm for example.

Next you could use an Array of your embedded Form to manage all created Forms like:


1- ?Design your Form themplate
2- ?Create an array to manage those Forms

For example if your Form template is name ?MyFormTemplate'


Public MyArrayForm as ?MyFormTemplate[]


Public Sub Add_Form_Template()

	Dim fNewForm as MyFormTemplate


	If?MyArrayForm?= NULL then
		MyArrayForm = New MyFormTemplate[]
	End If

	fNewForm = New MyFormTemplate

	fNewForm.IdForm = ??your id??

	MyArrayForm.Add(fNewForm)

End


Nota: this is just an example

??
Olivier Cruilles


Le 26 mars 2020 ? 07:01:05, ub2 at gmx.ch (ub2 at gmx.ch) a ?crit:

Dear Gambas Cracks  

2nd try, 1st see below  
(Was user at lists.gambas-basic.org partially down yesterday ?)  

Best regards  
ub2  


-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------  
Betreff: How to duplicate Controls with all its preferences at runtime  
Datum: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 10:21:48 +0100  
Von: ub2 at gmx.ch <ub2 at gmx.ch>  
An: user at lists.gambas-basic.org  
Kopie (CC): ub2 at gmx.ch  

Dear Gambas Cracks  


I'm fiddling since 2 days, code explodes, and I'm sure there must be a  
better way ...  


I'd like to duplicate at runtime various Controls (different types!)  
with all it's preferences (Formatting, Pictures, etc).  

The situation:  
In a scrollview I have "a well prepared Master-Controls-line" like  
TglBtn_...._0 | Txta_....._0 | Txtlbl_..._0 | Pixcb_..._0 | ...  

In order to get new "Record-Lines" I'd like to duplicate all those  
Master-Controls them with the clumsy code partially shown in  
Attachement 200325...  
and access the Controls later with:  
$Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._1  
$Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._2  
...  

I'd like to avoid SubForms like:  
$NewUFrm$ = New UFrmXYZ($RecNr$, ..., ..., $Scrvw$)  
because access to those new Controls becomes more complicated:  
$Txtlbl_...._0$ = UFrmXYZ(Me.Scrvw.Children[0]).Children[2]  


My Question:  
Is there a command like:  
$Ctrl_New$ = NewWithPrefs Control($CtrlParent$)  
$Ctrl_New$ = Duplicate Control($CtrlParent$)  
ore similar  

Any ideas, links, keywords, etc would be highly appreciated.  


Thanks for Gambas and this very helpful community.  
Take care and stay healthy  

ub2  




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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Mar 26 15:06:40 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 10:06:40 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to duplicate Ctrls with preferences at
 runtime (2)
In-Reply-To: <94f69b7c-1959-0334-50e6-bff97db2dcc4@gmx.ch>
References: <f39f8ebf-6286-2265-1fab-212868323d7d@gmx.ch>
 <94f69b7c-1959-0334-50e6-bff97db2dcc4@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <bd74bf5b-b02f-e2da-7399-a57fb918a4ad@gmail.com>

On 3/26/20 7:00 AM, ub2 at gmx.ch wrote:
> Dear Gambas Cracks
> 
> 2nd try, 1st see below
> (Was user at lists.gambas-basic.org partially down yesterday ?)
> 
> Best regards
> ub2
> 

I don't quite understand what you are trying to accomplish, and so I have not fully tested the following. But, perhaps something 
like this might be helpful for you:

' Gambas class file

Public MyChildren As New Object[]

Public Sub DuplicateChildren()

   For Each Child As Control In FMain.Children
     MyChildren.Add(CopyControl(Child))
   Next

End

Public Sub CopyControl(Child As Control) As Control

   Dim ChildClass As Class
   Dim ChildCopy As Object

   ChildClass = Object.Class(Child)
   ChildCopy = Object.New(ChildClass.Name, [FMain])
   For Each Symbol As String In ChildClass.Symbols
     If ChildClass[Symbol].Kind = Class.Property Then
       ' Some symbols are created read-only. Simply ignore them with TRY
       Try Object.SetProperty(ChildCopy, Symbol, Object.GetProperty(Child, Symbol))
     Endif
   Next

   Return ChildCopy

End


-- 
Lee

From ub2 at gmx.ch  Thu Mar 26 19:44:44 2020
From: ub2 at gmx.ch (ub2 at gmx.ch)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 19:44:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to duplicate Ctrls with properties at runtime,
 Thanks, work to be done ...
In-Reply-To: <94f69b7c-1959-0334-50e6-bff97db2dcc4@gmx.ch>
References: <f39f8ebf-6286-2265-1fab-212868323d7d@gmx.ch>
 <94f69b7c-1959-0334-50e6-bff97db2dcc4@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <895cb797-6341-5720-2003-021d6ad4b1b4@gmx.ch>

Dear Olivier and Lee


Thanks a lot for your ideas.

Right now your code is slightly above my head,
but I will dig into and be back probably in a few days.

Most likely it needs deciding whether I want to manage complexity
a) at the very beginning when listing, or
b) later on when accessing/calculating created lists

The project already deals with 9 lists, not too much more to come.
On the other side, calculations to be adapted upon request....

So for now, work for a) seems to smell less...


Sorry for this unspecific answer.
But your inputs already helped a lot, and will even do more.


Again, thanks for your help,
and greetings to all Gambin at s.

ub2

Am 26.03.20 um 12:00 schrieb ub2 at gmx.ch:
> Dear Gambas Cracks
>
> 2nd try, 1st see below
> (Was user at lists.gambas-basic.org partially down yesterday ?)
>
> Best regards
> ub2
>
>
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: How to duplicate Controls with all its preferences at runtime
> Datum: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 10:21:48 +0100
> Von: ub2 at gmx.ch <ub2 at gmx.ch>
> An: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
> Kopie (CC): ub2 at gmx.ch
>
> Dear Gambas Cracks
>
>
> I'm fiddling since 2 days, code explodes, and I'm sure there must be a
> better way ...
>
>
> I'd like to duplicate at runtime various Controls (different types!)
> with all it's preferences (Formatting, Pictures, etc).
>
> The situation:
> In a scrollview I have "a well prepared Master-Controls-line" like
> TglBtn_...._0 | Txta_....._0  | Txtlbl_..._0 | Pixcb_..._0 | ...
>
> In order to get new "Record-Lines" I'd like to duplicate all those
> Master-Controls them with the clumsy code partially shown in
> 	Attachement 200325...
> and access the Controls later with:
> 	$Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._1
> 	$Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._2
> 		...
>
> I'd like to avoid SubForms like:
>      $NewUFrm$ = New UFrmXYZ($RecNr$, ..., ..., $Scrvw$)
> because access to those new Controls becomes more complicated:
> 	$Txtlbl_...._0$ = UFrmXYZ(Me.Scrvw.Children[0]).Children[2]
>
>
> My Question:
> Is there a command like:
>     $Ctrl_New$ = NewWithPrefs Control($CtrlParent$)
>     $Ctrl_New$ = Duplicate Control($CtrlParent$)
>     ore similar
>
> Any ideas, links, keywords, etc would be highly appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks for Gambas and this very helpful community.
> Take care and stay healthy
>
> ub2
>
>
>

From olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr  Thu Mar 26 19:54:58 2020
From: olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr (Yahoo)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 14:54:58 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to duplicate Ctrls with properties at runtime, Thanks,
 work to be done ...
In-Reply-To: <895cb797-6341-5720-2003-021d6ad4b1b4@gmx.ch>
References: <f39f8ebf-6286-2265-1fab-212868323d7d@gmx.ch>
 <94f69b7c-1959-0334-50e6-bff97db2dcc4@gmx.ch>
 <895cb797-6341-5720-2003-021d6ad4b1b4@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <etPan.5e7cfa82.5b2b1954.160e7@yahoo.fr>

Maybe if your could send us a screenshot or your project (as possible)
to be able to visually understand what you want to build



Olivier Cruilles
Email: olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr

Le 26 mars 2020 ? 14:44:47, ub2 at gmx.ch (ub2 at gmx.ch) a ?crit:

Dear Olivier and Lee  


Thanks a lot for your ideas.  

Right now your code is slightly above my head,  
but I will dig into and be back probably in a few days.  

Most likely it needs deciding whether I want to manage complexity  
a) at the very beginning when listing, or  
b) later on when accessing/calculating created lists  

The project already deals with 9 lists, not too much more to come.  
On the other side, calculations to be adapted upon request....  

So for now, work for a) seems to smell less...  


Sorry for this unspecific answer.  
But your inputs already helped a lot, and will even do more.  


Again, thanks for your help,  
and greetings to all Gambin at s.  

ub2  

Am 26.03.20 um 12:00 schrieb ub2 at gmx.ch:  
> Dear Gambas Cracks  
>  
> 2nd try, 1st see below  
> (Was user at lists.gambas-basic.org partially down yesterday ?)  
>  
> Best regards  
> ub2  
>  
>  
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------  
> Betreff: How to duplicate Controls with all its preferences at runtime  
> Datum: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 10:21:48 +0100  
> Von: ub2 at gmx.ch <ub2 at gmx.ch>  
> An: user at lists.gambas-basic.org  
> Kopie (CC): ub2 at gmx.ch  
>  
> Dear Gambas Cracks  
>  
>  
> I'm fiddling since 2 days, code explodes, and I'm sure there must be a  
> better way ...  
>  
>  
> I'd like to duplicate at runtime various Controls (different types!)  
> with all it's preferences (Formatting, Pictures, etc).  
>  
> The situation:  
> In a scrollview I have "a well prepared Master-Controls-line" like  
> TglBtn_...._0 | Txta_....._0 | Txtlbl_..._0 | Pixcb_..._0 | ...  
>  
> In order to get new "Record-Lines" I'd like to duplicate all those  
> Master-Controls them with the clumsy code partially shown in  
> Attachement 200325...  
> and access the Controls later with:  
> $Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._1  
> $Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._2  
> ...  
>  
> I'd like to avoid SubForms like:  
> $NewUFrm$ = New UFrmXYZ($RecNr$, ..., ..., $Scrvw$)  
> because access to those new Controls becomes more complicated:  
> $Txtlbl_...._0$ = UFrmXYZ(Me.Scrvw.Children[0]).Children[2]  
>  
>  
> My Question:  
> Is there a command like:  
> $Ctrl_New$ = NewWithPrefs Control($CtrlParent$)  
> $Ctrl_New$ = Duplicate Control($CtrlParent$)  
> ore similar  
>  
> Any ideas, links, keywords, etc would be highly appreciated.  
>  
>  
> Thanks for Gambas and this very helpful community.  
> Take care and stay healthy  
>  
> ub2  
>  
>  
>  
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From olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr  Thu Mar 26 19:54:58 2020
From: olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr (Yahoo)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 14:54:58 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to duplicate Ctrls with properties at runtime, Thanks,
 work to be done ...
In-Reply-To: <895cb797-6341-5720-2003-021d6ad4b1b4@gmx.ch>
References: <f39f8ebf-6286-2265-1fab-212868323d7d@gmx.ch>
 <94f69b7c-1959-0334-50e6-bff97db2dcc4@gmx.ch>
 <895cb797-6341-5720-2003-021d6ad4b1b4@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <etPan.5e7cfa82.5b2b1954.160e7@yahoo.fr>

Maybe if your could send us a screenshot or your project (as possible)
to be able to visually understand what you want to build



Olivier Cruilles
Email: olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr

Le 26 mars 2020 ? 14:44:47, ub2 at gmx.ch (ub2 at gmx.ch) a ?crit:

Dear Olivier and Lee  


Thanks a lot for your ideas.  

Right now your code is slightly above my head,  
but I will dig into and be back probably in a few days.  

Most likely it needs deciding whether I want to manage complexity  
a) at the very beginning when listing, or  
b) later on when accessing/calculating created lists  

The project already deals with 9 lists, not too much more to come.  
On the other side, calculations to be adapted upon request....  

So for now, work for a) seems to smell less...  


Sorry for this unspecific answer.  
But your inputs already helped a lot, and will even do more.  


Again, thanks for your help,  
and greetings to all Gambin at s.  

ub2  

Am 26.03.20 um 12:00 schrieb ub2 at gmx.ch:  
> Dear Gambas Cracks  
>  
> 2nd try, 1st see below  
> (Was user at lists.gambas-basic.org partially down yesterday ?)  
>  
> Best regards  
> ub2  
>  
>  
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------  
> Betreff: How to duplicate Controls with all its preferences at runtime  
> Datum: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 10:21:48 +0100  
> Von: ub2 at gmx.ch <ub2 at gmx.ch>  
> An: user at lists.gambas-basic.org  
> Kopie (CC): ub2 at gmx.ch  
>  
> Dear Gambas Cracks  
>  
>  
> I'm fiddling since 2 days, code explodes, and I'm sure there must be a  
> better way ...  
>  
>  
> I'd like to duplicate at runtime various Controls (different types!)  
> with all it's preferences (Formatting, Pictures, etc).  
>  
> The situation:  
> In a scrollview I have "a well prepared Master-Controls-line" like  
> TglBtn_...._0 | Txta_....._0 | Txtlbl_..._0 | Pixcb_..._0 | ...  
>  
> In order to get new "Record-Lines" I'd like to duplicate all those  
> Master-Controls them with the clumsy code partially shown in  
> Attachement 200325...  
> and access the Controls later with:  
> $Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._1  
> $Ctrl$ = Me.Txtlbl_....._2  
> ...  
>  
> I'd like to avoid SubForms like:  
> $NewUFrm$ = New UFrmXYZ($RecNr$, ..., ..., $Scrvw$)  
> because access to those new Controls becomes more complicated:  
> $Txtlbl_...._0$ = UFrmXYZ(Me.Scrvw.Children[0]).Children[2]  
>  
>  
> My Question:  
> Is there a command like:  
> $Ctrl_New$ = NewWithPrefs Control($CtrlParent$)  
> $Ctrl_New$ = Duplicate Control($CtrlParent$)  
> ore similar  
>  
> Any ideas, links, keywords, etc would be highly appreciated.  
>  
>  
> Thanks for Gambas and this very helpful community.  
> Take care and stay healthy  
>  
> ub2  
>  
>  
>  
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From isafiur at gmail.com  Fri Mar 27 06:26:39 2020
From: isafiur at gmail.com (Safiur Rahman)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 11:11:39 +0545
Subject: [Gambas-user] Getting value in WebTable Cell
Message-ID: <CADKn0TKAR+vXn4+mN=rhtAYo9gsmBXaRJjwoSnEnQb5aJFAVCA@mail.gmail.com>

I can get value of a cell from GridView as GridView1[Row,Column].Text
How can I get value of a cell from WebTable?

Safiur Rahman

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 27 12:49:16 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 12:49:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Getting value in WebTable Cell
In-Reply-To: <CADKn0TKAR+vXn4+mN=rhtAYo9gsmBXaRJjwoSnEnQb5aJFAVCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADKn0TKAR+vXn4+mN=rhtAYo9gsmBXaRJjwoSnEnQb5aJFAVCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7b9a1f0f-fc93-8458-1778-cfc91a47c4f9@gmail.com>

Le 27/03/2020 ? 06:26, Safiur Rahman a ?crit?:
> I can get value of a cell from GridView as GridView1[Row,Column].Text
> How can I get value of a cell from WebTable?
> 
> Safiur Rahman
> 

You can't. WebTable does not store any data, it just displays it.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From way at gmx.li  Fri Mar 27 20:40:27 2020
From: way at gmx.li (Weg)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 20:40:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Size of Cake Chart in Chart.gb
Message-ID: <6754f512-160c-4808-cffb-aadb95313fdd@gmx.li>


How is it possible, to enlarge the Size of the Cake Chart?
I reserved a lot of space, but its still very small.

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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Fri Mar 27 22:25:36 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 17:25:36 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Size of Cake Chart in Chart.gb
In-Reply-To: <6754f512-160c-4808-cffb-aadb95313fdd@gmx.li>
References: <6754f512-160c-4808-cffb-aadb95313fdd@gmx.li>
Message-ID: <5d8e00db-ecff-eea7-9ca3-e7e9d6dd51cf@gmail.com>

On 3/27/20 3:40 PM, Weg wrote:
> 
> How is it possible, to enlarge the Size of the Cake Chart?
> I reserved a lot of space, but its still very small.
> 

Have you tried the Height and Width properties?
https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart


-- 
Lee

P.S. To anyone who may know, where is the Wiki documentation for gb.chart?

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Mar 27 23:58:46 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 23:58:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Size of Cake Chart in Chart.gb
In-Reply-To: <5d8e00db-ecff-eea7-9ca3-e7e9d6dd51cf@gmail.com>
References: <6754f512-160c-4808-cffb-aadb95313fdd@gmx.li>
 <5d8e00db-ecff-eea7-9ca3-e7e9d6dd51cf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbf8TU3pseLa7jz_grrCdOmiW_3oau2+e-qhXLqnF7Xdw@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno ven 27 mar 2020 alle ore 22:26 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On 3/27/20 3:40 PM, Weg wrote:
> >
> > How is it possible, to enlarge the Size of the Cake Chart?
> > I reserved a lot of space, but its still very small.
> >
>
> Have you tried the Height and Width properties?
> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/makechart
>
>
> --
> Lee
>
> P.S. To anyone who may know, where is the Wiki documentation for gb.chart?
>

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.chart

With Fabien's code, here works well:

Public Sub Form_Open()

  With Chart
    .Legend.Font = Font["Serif,16"]
    .Legend.Title = "Legend"
    .Legend.Visible = True
    .[0].Values = [20, 30, 50]
    .Headers.Values = ["Tic", "Toc", "Tac"]
    .Proportionnal = True
    .ShowLabels = True
    .Border = True
    .Type = ChartType.Pie
  End With

End

Public Sub DrawingArea1_Draw()

  Chart.Width = DrawingArea1.ClientWidth
  Chart.Height = DrawingArea1.ClientHeight
  Chart.Draw()

End

Regards
Gianluigi
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From tercoide at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 28 14:26:57 2020
From: tercoide at hotmail.com (martin p cristia)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 10:26:57 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] AppImage and WLS2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1585393921.4061.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
References: <mailman.1.1585393921.4061.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <MN2PR12MB4208725457DE6FE525485BDAC8CD0@MN2PR12MB4208.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

Hi, hope everyone is well.

This is more like an "feature request":

Do you thing is possible to move from "Executable" programs to an 
AppImage single file that includes Gambas runtimes and all its needed?

I just ran into this while installing MeshLab from "Ubuntu Software" 
only to find it won't start. After it, downloaded the AppImage from 
MeshLab website, ran it from where it landed , "Downloads" for the case, 
to find it finally works.

I beleive our end users, linux begginers, people not interested in 
programming will love it.

Also, I've done testing in the upcomming WLS2 into the Windows Insider 
Program to find that Gambas3 run flawlessly and very fast, only seen 10% 
loss of speed in benchmarks with my software. As opposite WLS is pretty 
unusable with hungs all the time.

But from a barebone Windows to and Gambas3 app running is a very long 
and tedious way, and will continue to be, wich can be cut in half by 
having the possibility of the AppImage.

Stay safe at home. For us, that's never a problem!


-- 
Saludos

Ing. Martin P Cristia


From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sat Mar 28 17:14:44 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:14:44 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.chart Documentation (was Size of Cake Chart in
 Chart.gb)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFbf8TU3pseLa7jz_grrCdOmiW_3oau2+e-qhXLqnF7Xdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6754f512-160c-4808-cffb-aadb95313fdd@gmx.li>
 <5d8e00db-ecff-eea7-9ca3-e7e9d6dd51cf@gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFbf8TU3pseLa7jz_grrCdOmiW_3oau2+e-qhXLqnF7Xdw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37330d54-f3e6-f798-457e-9c8b27b7d1c2@gmail.com>

On 3/27/20 6:58 PM, Gianluigi wrote:
>     P.S. To anyone who may know, where is the Wiki documentation for gb.chart?
> 
> 
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.chart

Thank you for that, Gianluigi.

I'm puzzled as to why I don't find it in the Index of Components [http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp].


-- 
Lee

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Mar 28 18:07:06 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 18:07:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.chart Documentation (was Size of Cake Chart in
 Chart.gb)
In-Reply-To: <37330d54-f3e6-f798-457e-9c8b27b7d1c2@gmail.com>
References: <6754f512-160c-4808-cffb-aadb95313fdd@gmx.li>
 <5d8e00db-ecff-eea7-9ca3-e7e9d6dd51cf@gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFbf8TU3pseLa7jz_grrCdOmiW_3oau2+e-qhXLqnF7Xdw@mail.gmail.com>
 <37330d54-f3e6-f798-457e-9c8b27b7d1c2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbfaD5t-yJjfH=c_ZLwsM+N9RAMkTrkzidR4Q8DjjSNJw@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno sab 28 mar 2020 alle ore 17:15 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On 3/27/20 6:58 PM, Gianluigi wrote:
> >     P.S. To anyone who may know, where is the Wiki documentation for
> gb.chart?
> >
> >
> > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.chart
>
> Thank you for that, Gianluigi.
>
> I'm puzzled as to why I don't find it in the Index of Components [
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp].
>

It is Fabien who hid it, perhaps he is ashamed :-P
:-D
Regards
Gianluigi
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Mon Mar 30 19:28:53 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 19:28:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fail on compiling gambas
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL5ieoKAE2x2GqcxGTLQBUPeMzH8iREeUY0dJtWZ3=KH=A@mail.gmail.com>

abien at fabien-TERRA-MOBILE-1749S:~/Documents/gambas/gb.qt5$ make
make  all-recursive
make[1] : on entre dans le r?pertoire ? /home/fabien/Documents/gambas/gb.qt5 ?
Making all in src
make[2] : on entre dans le r?pertoire ?
/home/fabien/Documents/gambas/gb.qt5/src ?
Making all in .
make[3] : on entre dans le r?pertoire ?
/home/fabien/Documents/gambas/gb.qt5/src ?
  CXX      gb_qt5_la-main_moc.lo
main_moc.cpp:78:1: error: ?QT_INIT_METAOBJECT? does not name a type;
did you mean ?Q_INIT_RESOURCE??
 QT_INIT_METAOBJECT const QMetaObject MyPostCheck::staticMetaObject = { {
 ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Q_INIT_RESOURCE
main_moc.cpp:183:1: error: ?QT_INIT_METAOBJECT? does not name a type;
did you mean ?Q_INIT_RESOURCE??
 QT_INIT_METAOBJECT const QMetaObject MyApplication::staticMetaObject = { {
 ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Q_INIT_RESOURCE
Makefile:742: recipe for target 'gb_qt5_la-main_moc.lo' failed
make[3]: *** [gb_qt5_la-main_moc.lo] Error 1
make[3] : on quitte le r?pertoire ? /home/fabien/Documents/gambas/gb.qt5/src ?
Makefile:1265: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2] : on quitte le r?pertoire ? /home/fabien/Documents/gambas/gb.qt5/src ?
Makefile:455: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1] : on quitte le r?pertoire ? /home/fabien/Documents/gambas/gb.qt5 ?
Makefile:387: recipe for target 'all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 2
fabien at fabien-TERRA-MOBILE-1749S:~/Documents/gambas/gb.qt5$ ^C
fabien at fabien-TERRA-MOBILE-1749S:~/Documents/gambas/gb.qt5$



mint 19.3 tricia

qt5 .9.5

-- 
Fabien Bodard

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From roberto.premoli at tiscali.it  Tue Mar 31 12:16:18 2020
From: roberto.premoli at tiscali.it (roberto)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:16:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] array of object is SO needed
Message-ID: <4a324567-0d48-5bb1-9c46-8b6fe2cfcd4b@tiscali.it>

hi.

i am doing a "sudoku" game.

i have a matrix of 81 labels, from "label1" to "label81" as containers 
of the numbers (to show them to user)

i have matrix to container of number (to "elaborate" them).

To fill the textlabels? i have to do


if matrix[1] <> 0 then label1.text=matrix[1]

if matrix[2] <> 0 then label2.text=matrix[2]

...

if matrix[81] <> 0 then label81.text=matrix[81]


also to clean or assign different background color, i have to write 81 
times the same command on different labels.

it will be HUGE better to have array of objects? to allow some the follow:


for n = 1 to 81

 ?if matrix[n] <> 0 then label[n].text = matrix[n]

next

At my eyes, absence of object arrays is the worsest weakness of gambas.


PS: in past i did bigger programs with hundreds of labels and all of 
them must be worked one by one, it was a mess (doing cut and past and 
renumbering, it is so common to do a mistake).

Getting older, i became less used to face this weakness.


From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Tue Mar 31 14:00:34 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:00:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] array of object is SO needed
In-Reply-To: <4a324567-0d48-5bb1-9c46-8b6fe2cfcd4b@tiscali.it>
References: <4a324567-0d48-5bb1-9c46-8b6fe2cfcd4b@tiscali.it>
Message-ID: <97c44ee5-1b4f-af0e-e1be-4d20426c7605@osnanet.de>

Hi Roberto,

there are arrays of objects in Gambas, and I have been using them for 
quite some time. There is especially one project where I used them very 
similarly: for labels, textboxes and comboboxes in a dynamical mask.

As an example, at the beginning of the class file:

 ? Private mLbl As New Object[]

This is a small excerpt where a new label is made and set to its position:

 ????? Case "LABEL"
 ??????? Inc lblNr
 ??????? mLbl.Resize(lblNr + 1)
 ??????? mLbl[lblNr] = New Label(Maske) As "MaskeLabel"
 ??????? mLbl[lblNr].X = Val(wert[2])
 ??????? mLbl[lblNr].Y = Val(wert[3]) + 5 'Gambas 3 Ausgleich n?tig
 ??????? mLbl[lblNr].Text = wert[4]
 ??????? '5 und 6 noch f?r den Font
 ??????? mLbl[lblNr].Width = mLbl[lblNr].Font.TextWidth(mLbl[lblNr].Text)
 ??????? mLbl[lblNr].Height = mLbl[lblNr].Font.TextHeight(mLbl[lblNr].Text)

You have to take care to delete the objects backwards (for... step -1):

 ? For i = mLbl.Count - 1 To 0 Step -1
 ??? mLbl[i].Delete
 ? Next
 ? mLbl.Clear

As far as I know, you could even define Arrays of Arrays, for your 
multilayer matrix for instance, to simulate the layers, but I never 
needed that.

Or did I get you completely wrong here?

Regards
Rolf



Am 31.03.2020 um 12:16 schrieb roberto:
> hi.
>
> i am doing a "sudoku" game.
>
> i have a matrix of 81 labels, from "label1" to "label81" as containers 
> of the numbers (to show them to user)
>
> i have matrix to container of number (to "elaborate" them).
>
> To fill the textlabels? i have to do
>
>
> if matrix[1] <> 0 then label1.text=matrix[1]
>
> if matrix[2] <> 0 then label2.text=matrix[2]
>
> ...
>
> if matrix[81] <> 0 then label81.text=matrix[81]
>
>
> also to clean or assign different background color, i have to write 81 
> times the same command on different labels.
>
> it will be HUGE better to have array of objects? to allow some the 
> follow:
>
>
> for n = 1 to 81
>
> ?if matrix[n] <> 0 then label[n].text = matrix[n]
>
> next
>
> At my eyes, absence of object arrays is the worsest weakness of gambas.
>
>
> PS: in past i did bigger programs with hundreds of labels and all of 
> them must be worked one by one, it was a mess (doing cut and past and 
> renumbering, it is so common to do a mistake).
>
> Getting older, i became less used to face this weakness.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>


From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Mar 31 17:34:30 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 11:34:30 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] array of object is SO needed
In-Reply-To: <4a324567-0d48-5bb1-9c46-8b6fe2cfcd4b@tiscali.it>
References: <4a324567-0d48-5bb1-9c46-8b6fe2cfcd4b@tiscali.it>
Message-ID: <690eb0d3-d5b2-2389-7a72-e51930d23ba1@gmail.com>

On 3/31/20 6:16 AM, roberto wrote:
> At?my?eyes,?absence?of?object?arrays?is?the?worsest?weakness?of?gambas.

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb/object[]


-- 
Lee

From alarch at alarch.pw  Tue Mar 31 18:27:57 2020
From: alarch at alarch.pw (Marc Guillaume)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:27:57 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] how to manage mysql error in gambas ?
Message-ID: <20200331182757.43b94f1f@Marc-ThinkPad-SL510>

hi everybody,

I would like to use the mysql error handling when I try to make a mysql
insert that generates a "Duplacate entry" error in mysql to be able to
transform the query into an update of one of the table fields. But
Gambas returns the -1 error whatever the mysql error generated. I can
parse the mysql error message that is returned, but is there a way to
retrieve the specific error number from MySQL? 

Otherwise I'll try to use a stored procedure. 

thanks for your help

From tercoide at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 31 19:52:49 2020
From: tercoide at hotmail.com (martin p cristia)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:52:49 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView webGL support
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1585649522.22520.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
References: <mailman.1.1585649522.22520.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <MN2PR12MB42086ED07D17396D24B04867C8C80@MN2PR12MB4208.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

Hi:

is there a chance to have WebGL support in the WebView control?

-- 
Saludos

Ing. Martin P Cristia


From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 31 20:12:37 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:12:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView webGL support
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR12MB42086ED07D17396D24B04867C8C80@MN2PR12MB4208.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
References: <mailman.1.1585649522.22520.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
 <MN2PR12MB42086ED07D17396D24B04867C8C80@MN2PR12MB4208.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <4bab6212-cce5-2af5-e4e6-991339803f91@gmail.com>

Le 31/03/2020 ? 19:52, martin p cristia a ?crit?:
> Hi:
> 
> is there a chance to have WebGL support in the WebView control?
> 

I don't think it's possible until we switch to the new Qt web view.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From criguada at gmail.com  Tue Mar 31 20:15:25 2020
From: criguada at gmail.com (Cristiano Guadagnino)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:15:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] how to manage mysql error in gambas ?
In-Reply-To: <20200331182757.43b94f1f@Marc-ThinkPad-SL510>
References: <20200331182757.43b94f1f@Marc-ThinkPad-SL510>
Message-ID: <CANnPoNY1nrE=bwKE3tzYqmxj=ixqVwgwM+erWfTtvzD-JxaczA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Marc,
this does not reply your Gambas question, however the problem you face is
usually handled directly in-database by using the MERGE statement.
MySQL does not support MERGE, but it does support something similar: see
https://www.dbrnd.com/2015/08/insert-update-merge-statement-in-mysql/

Hope this helps
Bye
Cris



Il giorno mar 31 mar 2020 alle ore 18:34 Marc Guillaume <alarch at alarch.pw>
ha scritto:

> hi everybody,
>
> I would like to use the mysql error handling when I try to make a mysql
> insert that generates a "Duplacate entry" error in mysql to be able to
> transform the query into an update of one of the table fields. But
> Gambas returns the -1 error whatever the mysql error generated. I can
> parse the mysql error message that is returned, but is there a way to
> retrieve the specific error number from MySQL?
>
> Otherwise I'll try to use a stored procedure.
>
> thanks for your help
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Tue Mar 31 20:20:49 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:20:49 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] array of object is SO needed
In-Reply-To: <4a324567-0d48-5bb1-9c46-8b6fe2cfcd4b@tiscali.it>
References: <4a324567-0d48-5bb1-9c46-8b6fe2cfcd4b@tiscali.it>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7SdQ7iu0+_ZocAeeFNczvdDkK=S_RwwhkrVPHU_k5B7hA@mail.gmail.com>

You can even use array of labels...


Jussi

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 1:22 PM roberto <roberto.premoli at tiscali.it> wrote:

> hi.
>
> i am doing a "sudoku" game.
>
> i have a matrix of 81 labels, from "label1" to "label81" as containers
> of the numbers (to show them to user)
>
> i have matrix to container of number (to "elaborate" them).
>
> To fill the textlabels  i have to do
>
>
> if matrix[1] <> 0 then label1.text=matrix[1]
>
> if matrix[2] <> 0 then label2.text=matrix[2]
>
> ...
>
> if matrix[81] <> 0 then label81.text=matrix[81]
>
>
> also to clean or assign different background color, i have to write 81
> times the same command on different labels.
>
> it will be HUGE better to have array of objects  to allow some the follow:
>
>
> for n = 1 to 81
>
>   if matrix[n] <> 0 then label[n].text = matrix[n]
>
> next
>
> At my eyes, absence of object arrays is the worsest weakness of gambas.
>
>
> PS: in past i did bigger programs with hundreds of labels and all of
> them must be worked one by one, it was a mess (doing cut and past and
> renumbering, it is so common to do a mistake).
>
> Getting older, i became less used to face this weakness.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 31 21:10:19 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:10:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] how to manage mysql error in gambas ?
In-Reply-To: <20200331182757.43b94f1f@Marc-ThinkPad-SL510>
References: <20200331182757.43b94f1f@Marc-ThinkPad-SL510>
Message-ID: <da5f6373-2a29-dd3a-e978-cf1979cd465b@gmail.com>

Le 31/03/2020 ? 18:27, Marc Guillaume a ?crit?:
> hi everybody,
> 
> I would like to use the mysql error handling when I try to make a mysql
> insert that generates a "Duplacate entry" error in mysql to be able to
> transform the query into an update of one of the table fields. But
> Gambas returns the -1 error whatever the mysql error generated. I can
> parse the mysql error message that is returned, but is there a way to
> retrieve the specific error number from MySQL?
> 
> Otherwise I'll try to use a stored procedure.
> 
> thanks for your help
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

The mysql error code is in the Connection.Error property.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From alarch at alarch.pw  Tue Mar 31 22:12:04 2020
From: alarch at alarch.pw (Marc Guillaume)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:12:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] how to manage mysql error in gambas ?
In-Reply-To: <da5f6373-2a29-dd3a-e978-cf1979cd465b@gmail.com>
References: <20200331182757.43b94f1f@Marc-ThinkPad-SL510>
 <da5f6373-2a29-dd3a-e978-cf1979cd465b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200331221204.6b118cb2@Marc-ThinkPad-SL510>

Le Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:10:19 +0200,
Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> a ?crit :

> Le 31/03/2020 ? 18:27, Marc Guillaume a ?crit?:
> > hi everybody,
> > 
> > I would like to use the mysql error handling when I try to make a
> > mysql insert that generates a "Duplacate entry" error in mysql to
> > be able to transform the query into an update of one of the table
> > fields. But Gambas returns the -1 error whatever the mysql error
> > generated. I can parse the mysql error message that is returned,
> > but is there a way to retrieve the specific error number from MySQL?
> > 
> > Otherwise I'll try to use a stored procedure.
> > 
> > thanks for your help
> > 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >   
> 
> The mysql error code is in the Connection.Error property.
> 
> Regards,
> 

Thank you!
I hadn't seen that connection object property.

From alarch at alarch.pw  Tue Mar 31 22:17:28 2020
From: alarch at alarch.pw (Marc Guillaume)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:17:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] how to manage mysql error in gambas ?
In-Reply-To: <CANnPoNY1nrE=bwKE3tzYqmxj=ixqVwgwM+erWfTtvzD-JxaczA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20200331182757.43b94f1f@Marc-ThinkPad-SL510>
 <CANnPoNY1nrE=bwKE3tzYqmxj=ixqVwgwM+erWfTtvzD-JxaczA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200331221728.52a187ab@Marc-ThinkPad-SL510>

Le Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:15:25 +0200,
Cristiano Guadagnino <criguada at gmail.com> a ?crit :

> Hi Marc,
> this does not reply your Gambas question, however the problem you
> face is usually handled directly in-database by using the MERGE
> statement. MySQL does not support MERGE, but it does support
> something similar: see
> https://www.dbrnd.com/2015/08/insert-update-merge-statement-in-mysql/
> 
> Hope this helps
> Bye
> Cris
> 
> 
> 
> Il giorno mar 31 mar 2020 alle ore 18:34 Marc Guillaume
> <alarch at alarch.pw> ha scritto:
> 
> > hi everybody,
> >
> > I would like to use the mysql error handling when I try to make a
> > mysql insert that generates a "Duplacate entry" error in mysql to
> > be able to transform the query into an update of one of the table
> > fields. But Gambas returns the -1 error whatever the mysql error
> > generated. I can parse the mysql error message that is returned,
> > but is there a way to retrieve the specific error number from MySQL?
> >
> > Otherwise I'll try to use a stored procedure.
> >
> > thanks for your help
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >  

Helo,

in the meantime I had indeed found the ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE
statement. 

But now Beno?t told me where to find the MySQL error in a generic way,
for all those occasions when there won't be a MySQL statement as handy
as this one. 

Thanks for your help.

From nando_f at nothingsimple.com  Tue Mar 31 23:17:18 2020
From: nando_f at nothingsimple.com (nando_f at nothingsimple.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 16:17:18 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] array of object is SO needed
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7SdQ7iu0+_ZocAeeFNczvdDkK=S_RwwhkrVPHU_k5B7hA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4a324567-0d48-5bb1-9c46-8b6fe2cfcd4b@tiscali.it>
 <CAFJMe7SdQ7iu0+_ZocAeeFNczvdDkK=S_RwwhkrVPHU_k5B7hA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200331211200.M90590@nothingsimple.com>

I've done an array[][] of objects for Sudoku
In fact, I have 3 kinds of arrays pointing to the same single 9x9 array

9 sets of an array of 3x3 squares which point to the same 9x9
9 sets of an array of 9 for columns pointing to the same 9x9
9 sets of an array of 9 for rows pointing to the same 9x9.

It doesn't matter which way you look at it, it all points to the same 9x9
I get to address it as a nine 3x3, or nine rows or nine columns.

Each array element was a label where I could set the x,y for each.

This structure made it easier for how I did it.

There may be better, or even more efficient, but it was cool.
Gambas is pretty cool.
-Fernando (Canada)


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---------- Original Message -----------
From: Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
To: Gambas Mailing List <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:20:49 +0300
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] array of object is SO needed

> You can even use array of labels...
> 
> Jussi
> 
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 1:22 PM roberto <roberto.premoli at tiscali.it> wrote:
> 
> > hi.
> >
> > i am doing a "sudoku" game.
> >
> > i have a matrix of 81 labels, from "label1" to "label81" as containers
> > of the numbers (to show them to user)
> >
> > i have matrix to container of number (to "elaborate" them).
> >
> > To fill the textlabels  i have to do
> >
> >
> > if matrix[1] <> 0 then label1.text=matrix[1]
> >
> > if matrix[2] <> 0 then label2.text=matrix[2]
> >
> > ...
> >
> > if matrix[81] <> 0 then label81.text=matrix[81]
> >
> >
> > also to clean or assign different background color, i have to write 81
> > times the same command on different labels.
> >
> > it will be HUGE better to have array of objects  to allow some the follow:
> >
> >
> > for n = 1 to 81
> >
> >   if matrix[n] <> 0 then label[n].text = matrix[n]
> >
> > next
> >
> > At my eyes, absence of object arrays is the worsest weakness of gambas.
> >
> >
> > PS: in past i did bigger programs with hundreds of labels and all of
> > them must be worked one by one, it was a mess (doing cut and past and
> > renumbering, it is so common to do a mistake).
> >
> > Getting older, i became less used to face this weakness.
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
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