From ian.roper at iinet.net.au  Tue Dec  1 00:01:28 2020
From: ian.roper at iinet.net.au (Ian Roper)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 07:01:28 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Colour button - colour not displaying after selecting.
Message-ID: <f7d9ca90-6fd1-9668-35c9-2438abecebf4@iinet.net.au>

Added a colour button to a form.

At run time, I can select a colour and set the background colour of 
another control from the returned value.

However the colour button control stays 'white'


Any ideas ?


Cheers,

Ian


[System]
Gambas=3.15.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.4.0-54-generic
Architecture=x86_64
*Distribution=Linux Mint 20 Ulyana*
Desktop=CINNAMON
Theme=qt5ctproxy
Language=en_AU.UTF-8
Memory=3808M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.6.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.11
GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.16
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OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.97.0.0
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.12.8
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6

[Environment]
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DISPLAY=:0
GB_GUI=gb.qt5
GDMSESSION=cinnamon
GDM_LANG=en_AU
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=/usr/share/applications/gambas3.desktop
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=3875
GJS_DEBUG_OUTPUT=stderr
GJS_DEBUG_TOPICS=JS ERROR;JS LOG
GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=1
HOME=<home>
LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_ALL=en_AU.UTF-8
LOGNAME=<user>
MANDATORY_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/cinnamon.mandatory.path
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin
PWD=<home>
QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/1358,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1358
SHELL=/bin/bash
SHLVL=0
SSH_AGENT_PID=1430
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
TZ=:/etc/localtime
USER=<user>
XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-cinnamon:/etc/xdg
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=X-Cinnamon
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/cinnamon:/usr/share/gnome:<home>/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
XDG_GREETER_DATA_DIR=/var/lib/lightdm-data/<user>
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=cinnamon
XDG_SESSION_ID=c2
XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
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From sharon at 455.co.il  Tue Dec  1 09:30:08 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:30:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cancel the closing of a WebForm
In-Reply-To: <4d2be4e8-7999-aa3a-71e7-260f4093f560@gmail.com>
References: <20201130201222.M63338@455.co.il>
 <4d2be4e8-7999-aa3a-71e7-260f4093f560@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20201201082615.M92397@455.co.il>

On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 21:27:40 +0100, Beno?t Minisini wrote
> Le 30/11/2020 ? 21:20, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> > Hello
> > 
> > How to prevent a window WebForm2 closing by clicking the X on the left side of the WebForm2
> > 
> > 
> > In WebForm1 When I press a button I display WebForm2 as follows
> > 
> > Export
> > 
> > 
> > Public Sub WebButton1_Click()
> > 
> >      Webform2.ShowModal(Webform1)
> >    
> > End
> > 
> > 
> > How to cancel close WebForm2 by the X on the side
> > 
> > Thanks
> >
> 
> You have to cancel the Close event with STOP EVENT.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----


 I tried, inside WebForm2 at the event Close

Public Sub WebForm_Close()

  Stop Event

End


It does not work, still the WebForm2 closes when I press the X button

Thanks

From sharon at 455.co.il  Tue Dec  1 09:51:06 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:51:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Complete WebForm after a period mark
Message-ID: <20201201084239.M46939@455.co.il>

When I open Gambas 3.15.2 (FEDORA 64BIT)

New project

In the type of project I choose:
Web Form Application

Before I run the project I get into a button Click event
And impression
webform1.
He completes and gives me a list of all the properties and commands

After I run the project
Again I enter the event and make an impression
WebForm1.
He gives me a partial list and does not show the whole list

Does this indicate any problem?

I am attaching two image files that show the problem

Thanks

From sharon at 455.co.il  Tue Dec  1 10:16:49 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 11:16:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Complete WebForm after a period mark
In-Reply-To: <20201201084239.M46939@455.co.il>
References: <20201201084239.M46939@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <20201201091649.M65079@455.co.il>

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:51:06 +0200, Mayost Sharon wrote
> When I open Gambas 3.15.2 (FEDORA 64BIT)
> 
> New project
> 
> In the type of project I choose:
> Web Form Application
> 
> Before I run the project I get into a button Click event
> And impression
> webform1.
> He completes and gives me a list of all the properties and commands
> 
> After I run the project
> Again I enter the event and make an impression
> WebForm1.
> He gives me a partial list and does not show the whole list
> 
> Does this indicate any problem?
> 
> I am attaching two image files that show the problem
> 
> Thanks
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----


Sorry
I forgot to attach the files in the previous post

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From charlie at cogier.com  Tue Dec  1 13:24:11 2020
From: charlie at cogier.com (Charlie Ogier)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 12:24:11 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Colour button - colour not displaying after
 selecting.
In-Reply-To: <f7d9ca90-6fd1-9668-35c9-2438abecebf4@iinet.net.au>
References: <f7d9ca90-6fd1-9668-35c9-2438abecebf4@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <d933c66c-18c3-7505-9166-d419269fdf3c@cogier.com>

Hi Ian,

Try the attached as a possible work around.

Charlie

On 30/11/2020 23:01, Ian Roper wrote:
>
> Added a colour button to a form.
>
> At run time, I can select a colour and set the background colour of 
> another control from the returned value.
>
> However the colour button control stays 'white'
>
>
> Any ideas ?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ian
>
>
> [System]
> Gambas=3.15.90
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=5.4.0-54-generic
> Architecture=x86_64
> *Distribution=Linux Mint 20 Ulyana*
> Desktop=CINNAMON
> Theme=qt5ctproxy
> Language=en_AU.UTF-8
> Memory=3808M
>
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.6.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.11
> GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
> GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.16
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1602.0
> GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.16
> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.97.0.0
> QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.12.8
> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
> SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6
>
> [Environment]
> CINNAMON_VERSION=4.6.7
> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
> DEFAULTS_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/cinnamon.default.path
> DESKTOP_SESSION=cinnamon
> DISPLAY=:0
> GB_GUI=gb.qt5
> GDMSESSION=cinnamon
> GDM_LANG=en_AU
> GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=/usr/share/applications/gambas3.desktop
> GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=3875
> GJS_DEBUG_OUTPUT=stderr
> GJS_DEBUG_TOPICS=JS ERROR;JS LOG
> GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
> GPG_AGENT_INFO=/run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
> GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
> GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=1
> HOME=<home>
> LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
> LANGUAGE=en_AU.UTF-8
> LC_ALL=en_AU.UTF-8
> LOGNAME=<user>
> MANDATORY_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/cinnamon.mandatory.path
> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin
> PWD=<home>
> QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
> QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
> QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
> SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/1358,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1358
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> SHLVL=0
> SSH_AGENT_PID=1430
> SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
> TZ=:/etc/localtime
> USER=<user>
> XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
> XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-cinnamon:/etc/xdg
> XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=X-Cinnamon
> XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/cinnamon:/usr/share/gnome:<home>/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
> XDG_GREETER_DATA_DIR=/var/lib/lightdm-data/<user>
> XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
> XDG_SEAT=seat0
> XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
> XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
> XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=cinnamon
> XDG_SESSION_ID=c2
> XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
> XDG_VTNR=7
> force_s3tc_enable=true
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 15:35:01 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:35:01 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cancel the closing of a WebForm
In-Reply-To: <20201201082615.M92397@455.co.il>
References: <20201130201222.M63338@455.co.il>
 <4d2be4e8-7999-aa3a-71e7-260f4093f560@gmail.com>
 <20201201082615.M92397@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCoa_8f6eYbg5EB2VMhie8PyJw+kwGa9g-Kc7-SvDiK=g@mail.gmail.com>

You need to use the name of the object not the object type.
Try this..

Public Sub WebForm2_Close()
:)

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 08:31, Mayost Sharon <sharon at 455.co.il> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 21:27:40 +0100, Beno?t Minisini wrote
> > Le 30/11/2020 ? 21:20, Mayost Sharon a ?crit :
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > How to prevent a window WebForm2 closing by clicking the X on the left
> side of the WebForm2
> > >
> > >
> > > In WebForm1 When I press a button I display WebForm2 as follows
> > >
> > > Export
> > >
> > >
> > > Public Sub WebButton1_Click()
> > >
> > >      Webform2.ShowModal(Webform1)
> > >
> > > End
> > >
> > >
> > > How to cancel close WebForm2 by the X on the side
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> >
> > You have to cancel the Close event with STOP EVENT.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Beno?t Minisini
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
>  I tried, inside WebForm2 at the event Close
>
> Public Sub WebForm_Close()
>
>   Stop Event
>
> End
>
>
> It does not work, still the WebForm2 closes when I press the X button
>
> Thanks
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 15:42:26 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:42:26 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Complete WebForm after a period mark
In-Reply-To: <20201201091649.M65079@455.co.il>
References: <20201201084239.M46939@455.co.il> <20201201091649.M65079@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCJ+gKqUMw5g4G_0BKi7qGcVfVzgdgVeF-MRCEjfXe15Q@mail.gmail.com>

I found if you type some letters and an incomplete list appears pressing
backspace a couple of times the correct list appears :)

:)

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 09:17, Mayost Sharon <sharon at 455.co.il> wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:51:06 +0200, Mayost Sharon wrote
> > When I open Gambas 3.15.2 (FEDORA 64BIT)
> >
> > New project
> >
> > In the type of project I choose:
> > Web Form Application
> >
> > Before I run the project I get into a button Click event
> > And impression
> > webform1.
> > He completes and gives me a list of all the properties and commands
> >
> > After I run the project
> > Again I enter the event and make an impression
> > WebForm1.
> > He gives me a partial list and does not show the whole list
> >
> > Does this indicate any problem?
> >
> > I am attaching two image files that show the problem
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> Sorry
> I forgot to attach the files in the previous post
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 15:54:49 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 01:24:49 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Colour button - colour not displaying after
 selecting.
In-Reply-To: <f7d9ca90-6fd1-9668-35c9-2438abecebf4@iinet.net.au>
References: <f7d9ca90-6fd1-9668-35c9-2438abecebf4@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <1d0d6a2b-cf16-31f2-462c-b4473070df78@gmail.com>

On 1/12/20 9:31 am, Ian Roper wrote:
> Added a colour button to a form.
> 
> At run time, I can select a colour and set the background colour of 
> another control from the returned value.
> 
> However the colour button control stays 'white'
> 
> 
> Any ideas ?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
...
> 
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.6.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.11
> GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
> GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.16
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1602.0
> GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.16
> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.97.0.0
> QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.12.8

...
> GB_GUI=gb.qt5


Interesting...? The attached works properly here for QT4 and QT5 but not 
for GTK3 and yet your sysinfos says you are usinf QT5.

What does the attached project show?

regards
bruce
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 15:59:02 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 01:29:02 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Report woes again
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL4GQnqSAz5HVxD7Y2AdAOOCUxeb3Cpr=LgM5UBtNy5RAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2a3714ba-6492-a4c3-c266-d6869b3ee91c@gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4GQnqSAz5HVxD7Y2AdAOOCUxeb3Cpr=LgM5UBtNy5RAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cc55779a-40a5-33cd-b39d-e4ec933b3a0b@gmail.com>

On 1/12/20 6:09 am, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> Give me a fail exemple so I can debug
> 
> Le dim. 29 nov. 2020 ? 16:16, Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
> 
>> After the update the Visible property now works OK, thank you!
>> But now it seems to want to print 4200 odd pages or at least thats how
>> far it gets before appearing to hang.
>>
>> ???
>>
>> regards
>> bruce
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 


Hi Fabien,

It turns out that this happens with only one report. I think it must be 
something in that report layout but I am having trouble identifying what 
is causing it.

Put this on the backburner for a while.

regards
bruce

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 16:08:16 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 15:08:16 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] customising my gambas TextEditorMode
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAGMRa09TveAWbqA7fgoNm1fAG3GW28927t_uooN9Ghfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAGMRa09TveAWbqA7fgoNm1fAG3GW28927t_uooN9Ghfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDA_GV2hd1BD0eXZTAFiLMX6sfy_SJRWuagHQGsF6pOrw@mail.gmail.com>

Never mind i found it :)
If anyone else finds this post looking to do the same type of mod I did
this.

In app/src/gambas3/.src/Editor/Code/FEditor.class
I changed the *InsertFunction*() parameters on lines 619 and 621, added an
additional optional field..
*InsertFunction(sName & "_Read", sType, False, "", bStatic, "Return $" &
sName)*
and
* InsertFunction(sName & "_Write", "", False, "Value As " & sType, bStatic,
"$" & sName & " = Value")*

The last parameters are new " *Optional sInsertString As String*"

The write commands in *InsertFunction*() at line 514 now look like this..




* If sType Then    $hEditor.Insert("\n" & sStatic & sPublic & " Function "
& sProc & "(" & sSign & ") As " & sType & "\n\n" & Space$(Project.TabSize)
& IIf(sInsertString, sInsertString, "") & "\n\nEnd\n")  Else
$hEditor.Insert("\n" & sStatic & sPublic & " Sub " & sProc & "(" & sSign &
")\n\n" & Space$(Project.TabSize) & IIf(sInsertString, sInsertString, "") &
"\n\nEnd\n")  Endif*

Got my gambas doing this now...
http://bws.org.uk/images/screenrecord-2020-12-01_14.54.36.mp4

Loving it, that'll save me some typing :)
BruceS



On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 19:40, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
> I'm trying to customise my gambas a bit. but i cannot find the code (not
> for a lack of looking)
>
> What i want to do is alter the auto-fill when i type a property.
> If i type for example ..
> *Property Runable As Boolean*  (then hit return)
> I get automatically written at the bottom of my file
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Private Function Runable_Read() As Boolean  EndPrivate Sub
> Runable_Write(Value As Boolean)End*
> ---
> That's awesome but i want it to add something more like this ...
> *Private $Runable As Boolean  *(this added just below the property
> declaration)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Private Function Runable_Read() As BooleanReturn $RunableEndPrivate Sub
> Runable_Write(Value As Boolean)*
>
> *$Runable = Value  *
> *End*
>
> Have been through the highlight and mode and editor code but not seeing
> where it happens to modify it, ?
>
> tia
> all the best
> BruceS
>
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 16:12:00 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 15:12:00 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] customising my gambas TextEditorMode
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDA_GV2hd1BD0eXZTAFiLMX6sfy_SJRWuagHQGsF6pOrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAGMRa09TveAWbqA7fgoNm1fAG3GW28927t_uooN9Ghfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDA_GV2hd1BD0eXZTAFiLMX6sfy_SJRWuagHQGsF6pOrw@mail.gmail.com>
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forgot to mention I also added this to line 617 ..

*  $hEditor.Insert("\n\nPrivate $" & sName & " As " & sType & gb.Lf)*




> In app/src/gambas3/.src/Editor/Code/FEditor.class
> I changed the *InsertFunction*() parameters on lines 619 and 621, added
> an additional optional field..
> *InsertFunction(sName & "_Read", sType, False, "", bStatic, "Return $" &
> sName)*
> and
> * InsertFunction(sName & "_Write", "", False, "Value As " & sType,
> bStatic, "$" & sName & " = Value")*
>
>
> Got my gambas doing this now...
> http://bws.org.uk/images/screenrecord-2020-12-01_14.54.36.mp4
>
> Loving it, that'll save me some typing :)
> BruceS
>
> BruceS
>
>>
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From sharon at 455.co.il  Tue Dec  1 16:39:50 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 17:39:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cancel the closing of a WebForm
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCoa_8f6eYbg5EB2VMhie8PyJw+kwGa9g-Kc7-SvDiK=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20201130201222.M63338@455.co.il>
 <4d2be4e8-7999-aa3a-71e7-260f4093f560@gmail.com>
 <20201201082615.M92397@455.co.il>
 <CABuQYCCoa_8f6eYbg5EB2VMhie8PyJw+kwGa9g-Kc7-SvDiK=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20201201153752.M80647@455.co.il>

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:35:01 +0000, Bruce Steers wrote
> You need to use the name of the object not the object type.
> Try this..
> 
> Public Sub WebForm2_Close()
> :)
> 
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 08:31, Mayost Sharon <sharon at 455.co.il> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 21:27:40 +0100, Beno?t Minisini wrote
> > > Le 30/11/2020 ? 21:20, Mayost Sharon a ?crit :
> > > > Hello
> > > >
> > > > How to prevent a window WebForm2 closing by clicking the X on the left
> > side of the WebForm2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In WebForm1 When I press a button I display WebForm2 as follows
> > > >
> > > > Export
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Public Sub WebButton1_Click()
> > > >
> > > >      Webform2.ShowModal(Webform1)
> > > >
> > > > End
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How to cancel close WebForm2 by the X on the side
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > >
> > > You have to cancel the Close event with STOP EVENT.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Beno?t Minisini
> > >
> > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
> >
> >  I tried, inside WebForm2 at the event Close
> >
> > Public Sub WebForm_Close()
> >
> >   Stop Event
> >
> > End
> >
> >
> > It does not work, still the WebForm2 closes when I press the X button
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >

I checked and also does not work

Regarding the event it gives me WebForm_Close when I right click on the form and there select events and then the IDE creates the event itself

Thanks

From sharon at 455.co.il  Tue Dec  1 16:53:58 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 17:53:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Complete WebForm after a period mark
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCJ+gKqUMw5g4G_0BKi7qGcVfVzgdgVeF-MRCEjfXe15Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20201201084239.M46939@455.co.il> <20201201091649.M65079@455.co.il>
 <CABuQYCCJ+gKqUMw5g4G_0BKi7qGcVfVzgdgVeF-MRCEjfXe15Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20201201155351.M75039@455.co.il>

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:42:26 +0000, Bruce Steers wrote
> I found if you type some letters and an incomplete list appears pressing
> backspace a couple of times the correct list appears :)
> 
> :)
> 
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 09:17, Mayost Sharon <sharon at 455.co.il> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 10:51:06 +0200, Mayost Sharon wrote
> > > When I open Gambas 3.15.2 (FEDORA 64BIT)
> > >
> > > New project
> > >
> > > In the type of project I choose:
> > > Web Form Application
> > >
> > > Before I run the project I get into a button Click event
> > > And impression
> > > webform1.
> > > He completes and gives me a list of all the properties and commands
> > >
> > > After I run the project
> > > Again I enter the event and make an impression
> > > WebForm1.
> > > He gives me a partial list and does not show the whole list
> > >
> > > Does this indicate any problem?
> > >
> > > I am attaching two image files that show the problem
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
> >
> > Sorry
> > I forgot to attach the files in the previous post
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >

I checked with me it does not work
But maybe you meant that when you click back you also delete the number 1 so it gives you full completion but when you register with the number 1 it does not give a complete list
WebForm gives a complete list
WebForm1 does not give a complete list

Thanks

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 18:14:01 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 18:14:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] customising my gambas TextEditorMode
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDTe=8hMHrTW032__wni6VGoO16yVJNKTiKT4dhQLnwXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAGMRa09TveAWbqA7fgoNm1fAG3GW28927t_uooN9Ghfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDA_GV2hd1BD0eXZTAFiLMX6sfy_SJRWuagHQGsF6pOrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDTe=8hMHrTW032__wni6VGoO16yVJNKTiKT4dhQLnwXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9438c767-78cf-b757-e43f-da0cc561b205@gmail.com>

Le 01/12/2020 ? 16:12, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> 
> forgot to mention I also added this to line 617 ..
> *? $hEditor.Insert("\n\nPrivate $" & sName & " As " & sType & gb.Lf)
> *
> 

Otherwise, you can use the syntax:

Property FooBar As String Use $sFooBar

It's faster to write!

https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/propdecl

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 18:18:21 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 18:18:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Report woes again
In-Reply-To: <cc55779a-40a5-33cd-b39d-e4ec933b3a0b@gmail.com>
References: <2a3714ba-6492-a4c3-c266-d6869b3ee91c@gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4GQnqSAz5HVxD7Y2AdAOOCUxeb3Cpr=LgM5UBtNy5RAA@mail.gmail.com>
 <cc55779a-40a5-33cd-b39d-e4ec933b3a0b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL6yTZ=Nr-pRLn0JnnxGTe1gQd1Uy8TZx1rj_m=a22MedQ@mail.gmail.com>

there is something caused by the fact you add something.. the report
try to reach something but can't. or something is too big for one page
so try to push it to the next page.

or too small for the container.

The logic behind the report engine is in the vertical way if something
can't be put in a container then create a new page with the same
elements but not with the container content... then continue to fill
it.

Le mar. 1 d?c. 2020 ? 16:00, Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>
> On 1/12/20 6:09 am, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> > Give me a fail exemple so I can debug
> >
> > Le dim. 29 nov. 2020 ? 16:16, Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
> >
> >> After the update the Visible property now works OK, thank you!
> >> But now it seems to want to print 4200 odd pages or at least thats how
> >> far it gets before appearing to hang.
> >>
> >> ???
> >>
> >> regards
> >> bruce
> >>
> >> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
>
> Hi Fabien,
>
> It turns out that this happens with only one report. I think it must be
> something in that report layout but I am having trouble identifying what
> is causing it.
>
> Put this on the backburner for a while.
>
> regards
> bruce
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----



-- 
Fabien Bodard

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 19:05:32 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 04:35:32 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE crash with commit e186a1b75 (TabStrip should not
 crash anymore with an undefined symbol)
Message-ID: <6285cfdb-1b39-b3d7-dfff-695632185fdd@gmail.com>

My IDE crashes with the following error when I access the help.

------------------------------------------------------
This application has raised an unexpected
error and must abort.

11] Unknown symbol 'Clear' in class 'WebView'.

MHelp.InitWebViewWith.448
---------------------------------------------

A similar error also happens if I have autocompletion turned on and I 
start typeing a keyword or symbol name etc.

Has anyone else experienced this (it might be a local error)?

tia
bruce

[System]
Gambas=3.15.2 f525b7012 (master)   <-- ignore this it is a local merge
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.9.10-pclos1
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=PCLinuxOS
Desktop=MATE
Theme=plastique
Language=en_AU.UTF-8
Memory=7425M

[Libraries]

[Environment]
BROWSER=/usr/bin/www-browser
CANBERRA_DRIVER=pulse
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-lCmrp7cmCc,guid=31c7f8ef039ac26d9e8831415fc58307
DERBY_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/jdk-15.0.1/db
DESKTOP_SESSION=/etc/X11/dm/Sessions/05MATE
DISPLAY=:0
DSSI_PATH=/usr/lib64/dssi
EDITOR=pluma
GB_GUI=gb.qt4
GCONF_TMPDIR=/tmp
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=<home>/Desktop/projectbrowser5.desktop
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=13535
GIT_PAGER=less -FRS
GTK2_RC_FILES=<home>/.gtkrc-2.0
GTK_CSD=0
GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
G_FILENAME_ENCODING=@locale
HISTCONTROL=ignoredups
HISTSIZE=1000
HOME=<home>
HOSTNAME=<hostname>
INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc
J2REDIR=/usr/lib/jvm/jdk-15.0.1
J2SDKDIR=/usr/lib/jvm/jdk-15.0.1
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/jdk-15.0.1
LADSPA_PATH=/usr/lib64/ladspa/
LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_ALL=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_SOURCED=1
LC_TELEPHONE=en_AU.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_AU.UTF-8
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib64/libgtk3-nocsd.so.0
LESS=-MM
LESSCHARSET=utf-8
LESSKEY=/etc/.less
LESSOPEN=|/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s
LOGNAME=<user>
LS_COLORS=
MAIL=/var/spool/mail/<user>
MATE_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
MDV_MENU_STYLE=discovery
MESA_GLSL_CACHE_DISABLE=1
META_CLASS=desktop
NLSPATH=/usr/share/locale/%l/%N
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/libexec:/usr/games:/usr/lib64/qt5/bin:/usr/lib64/qt4/bin:<home>/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
PWD=<home>
PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=1
PYTHONSTARTUP=/etc/pythonrc.py
QML_DISABLE_DISK_CACHE=1
QT4DOCDIR=/usr/share/doc/qt4
QT5DOCDIR=/usr/share/doc/qt5
QTDIR=/usr/lib64/qt4
QTDIR5=/usr/lib64/qt5
QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0
QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins:/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcms:
QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1
SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/7343,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/7343
SHELL=/bin/bash
SHLVL=1
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/var/run/user/500/keyring/ssh
TMP=/tmp/
TMPDIR=/tmp/
TZ=:/etc/localtime
USER=<user>
XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
XDG_CACHE_HOME=<home>/.cache
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/mate:/etc/xdg/discovery:/etc/xdg
XDG_CONFIG_HOME=<home>/.config
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=MATE
XDG_DATA_DIRS=<home>/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
XDG_DATA_HOME=<home>/.local/share
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/var/run/user/500
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_SESSION_COOKIE=<hostname>-1606779655.549814-1303751307
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=
XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session3
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
XDG_VTNR=8
XMODIFIERS=@im=none
_=/usr/bin/gambas3

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 19:25:00 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 19:25:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE crash with commit e186a1b75 (TabStrip should
 not crash anymore with an undefined symbol)
In-Reply-To: <6285cfdb-1b39-b3d7-dfff-695632185fdd@gmail.com>
References: <6285cfdb-1b39-b3d7-dfff-695632185fdd@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b840f3c-a617-2151-3a9f-20f2e0fc4c54@gmail.com>

Le 01/12/2020 ? 19:05, Bruce a ?crit?:
> My IDE crashes with the following error when I access the help.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> This application has raised an unexpected
> error and must abort.
> 
> 11] Unknown symbol 'Clear' in class 'WebView'.
> 
> MHelp.InitWebViewWith.448
> ---------------------------------------------
> 

Something is wrong in your Gambas installation. The WebView.Clear method 
has been implemented in 'gb.gtk3.webview', 'gb.qt4.webview' and 
'gb.qt5.webview' since Nov. 14th.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 21:57:58 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 20:57:58 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] customising my gambas TextEditorMode
In-Reply-To: <9438c767-78cf-b757-e43f-da0cc561b205@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAGMRa09TveAWbqA7fgoNm1fAG3GW28927t_uooN9Ghfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDA_GV2hd1BD0eXZTAFiLMX6sfy_SJRWuagHQGsF6pOrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDTe=8hMHrTW032__wni6VGoO16yVJNKTiKT4dhQLnwXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <9438c767-78cf-b757-e43f-da0cc561b205@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDxW_9eTWgr=AKH4UA_YXSAE9J_1T_ztUS0LbPsGhpqag@mail.gmail.com>

Haha.
I learn something new every day.
Just a shame I didn't  learn it yesterday ?

Thanks Ben. One less mod to apply to my flavour of gambas ? ?

My branch is now just going to have project argument preservation, quote
wrapping pressing alt and the mime check in the install file to speed up
installation. (And my sh highlight updates of course)

It's good, I dont really want a different gambas I just gotta have some
things my way.

Merci


On Tue, 1 Dec 2020, 17:15 Beno?t Minisini, <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 01/12/2020 ? 16:12, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> > forgot to mention I also added this to line 617 ..
> > *  $hEditor.Insert("\n\nPrivate $" & sName & " As " & sType & gb.Lf)
> > *
> >
>
> Otherwise, you can use the syntax:
>
> Property FooBar As String Use $sFooBar
>
> It's faster to write!
>
> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/propdecl
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From ian.roper at iinet.net.au  Tue Dec  1 22:52:03 2020
From: ian.roper at iinet.net.au (Ian Roper)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 05:52:03 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Colour button - colour not displaying after
 selecting.
In-Reply-To: <1d0d6a2b-cf16-31f2-462c-b4473070df78@gmail.com>
References: <f7d9ca90-6fd1-9668-35c9-2438abecebf4@iinet.net.au>
 <1d0d6a2b-cf16-31f2-462c-b4473070df78@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3aeb159e-53f7-2fe1-88ca-b291e12faab5@iinet.net.au>

Thanks Bruce,

As you can see by the attached image , it replicates the problem.

I have switched between the various graphics entities but there is no 
change to the outcome.

It has worked in the past on the same machine I'm using now, but can't 
remember how long ago.

Obviously, a previous version of Gambas and the previous version of Mint 
(19)


Cheers,

I.




On 1/12/20 10:54 pm, Bruce wrote:
> On 1/12/20 9:31 am, Ian Roper wrote:
>> Added a colour button to a form.
>>
>> At run time, I can select a colour and set the background colour of 
>> another control from the returned value.
>>
>> However the colour button control stays 'white'
>>
>>
>> Any ideas ?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
> ...
>>
>> [Libraries]
>> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
>> Curl=libcurl.so.4.6.0
>> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.11
>> GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
>> GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.16
>> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1602.0
>> GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
>> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.16
>> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
>> Poppler=libpoppler.so.97.0.0
>> QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.12.8
>
> ...
>> GB_GUI=gb.qt5
>
>
> Interesting...? The attached works properly here for QT4 and QT5 but 
> not for GTK3 and yet your sysinfos says you are usinf QT5.
>
> What does the attached project show?
>
> regards
> bruce
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From karl.reinl at fen-net.de  Tue Dec  1 23:10:35 2020
From: karl.reinl at fen-net.de (Karl Reinl)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 23:10:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Colour button - colour not displaying after
 selecting.
In-Reply-To: <3aeb159e-53f7-2fe1-88ca-b291e12faab5@iinet.net.au>
References: <f7d9ca90-6fd1-9668-35c9-2438abecebf4@iinet.net.au>
 <1d0d6a2b-cf16-31f2-462c-b4473070df78@gmail.com>
 <3aeb159e-53f7-2fe1-88ca-b291e12faab5@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <6ccfb2681858675180cbb340f7bb6b6e718c02d9.camel@fen-net.de>

Am Mittwoch, den 02.12.2020, 05:52 +0800 schrieb Ian Roper via User:
>     Thanks Bruce,
>     As you can see by the attached image , it replicates the problem.
>     I have switched between the various graphics entities but there
>       is no change to the outcome.
>     It has worked in the past on the same machine I'm using now, but
>       can't remember how long ago.
>     Obviously, a previous version of Gambas and the previous version
>       of Mint (19)
>     
> 
>     
>     Cheers,
> 
>     
>     I.
> 
>     
>     
> 
>     
>     
> 
>     
>     
> 
>     
>     On 1/12/20 10:54 pm, Bruce wrote:
> 
>     
>     
> > On
> >       1/12/20 9:31 am, Ian Roper wrote:
> >       
> > 
> >       
> > > Added a colour button to a form.
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         At run time, I can select a colour and set the background
> > > colour
> > >         of another control from the returned value.
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         However the colour button control stays 'white'
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         Any ideas ?
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         Cheers,
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         Ian
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >       
> > 
> >       ...
> >       
> > 
> >       
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         [Libraries]
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         Curl=libcurl.so.4.6.0
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.11
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.16
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1602.0
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.16
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         Poppler=libpoppler.so.97.0.0
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.12.8
> > >         
> > > 
> > >       
> > 
> >       
> > 
> >       ...
> >       
> > 
> >       
> > > GB_GUI=gb.qt5
> > >         
> > > 
> > >       
> > 
> >       
> > 
> >       
> > 
> >       Interesting...? The attached works properly here for QT4 and
> > QT5
> >       but not for GTK3 and yet your sysinfos says you are usinf
> > QT5.
> >       
> > 
> >       
> > 
> >       What does the attached project show?
> >       
> > 
> >       
> > 
> >       regards
> >       
> > 
> >       bruce
> >       
> > 
> >       
> > 
> >       

Salut Ian ,

do you use  gtk3? I ran into 'drawing problems' with gtk3 witch i had
not with gtk2 and qt4/qt5.


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 02:22:43 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 01:22:43 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] customising my gambas TextEditorMode
In-Reply-To: <9438c767-78cf-b757-e43f-da0cc561b205@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAGMRa09TveAWbqA7fgoNm1fAG3GW28927t_uooN9Ghfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDA_GV2hd1BD0eXZTAFiLMX6sfy_SJRWuagHQGsF6pOrw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey I Just reverted the changes I made ,

I tried it and found Using Use $name doesn't work.

[System]
Gambas=3.15.90 6ac1a7b3f (bruces-patched)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.4.0-56-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Linux Mint 20 Ulyana
Desktop=MATE
Theme=qt5ctproxy
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=7952M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.6.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.11
GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.16
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1602.0
GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.16
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.97.0.0
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.12.8
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6

[Environment]
CLUTTER_BACKEND=x11
CLUTTER_IM_MODULE=ibus
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
DEFAULTS_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/mate.default.path
DESKTOP_SESSION=mate
DISPLAY=:0
GB_GUI=gb.qt5
GDMSESSION=mate
GDM_LANG=en_GB
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=5028
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus
GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
HOME=<home>
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8
LIBVIRT_DEFAULT_URI=qemu:///system
LOGNAME=<user>
MANDATORY_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/mate.mandatory.path
MATE_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin
PWD=<home>
QT4_IM_MODULE=ibus
QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0
QT_IM_MODULE=ibus
QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1
SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/1112,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1112
SHELL=/bin/bash
SHLVL=0
SSH_AGENT_PID=1226
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
TZ=:/etc/localtime
USER=<user>
XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-mate:/etc/xdg
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=MATE
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/mate:/usr/share/mate:<home>/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
XDG_GREETER_DATA_DIR=/var/lib/lightdm-data/<user>
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=mate
XDG_SESSION_ID=c1
XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
XDG_VTNR=7
XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus
force_s3tc_enable=true

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 17:15, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 01/12/2020 ? 16:12, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> > forgot to mention I also added this to line 617 ..
> > *  $hEditor.Insert("\n\nPrivate $" & sName & " As " & sType & gb.Lf)
> > *
> >
>
> Otherwise, you can use the syntax:
>
> Property FooBar As String Use $sFooBar
>
> It's faster to write!
>
> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/propdecl
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 16:24:59 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 15:24:59 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] using search crashing ide (sometimes)
In-Reply-To: <46130180.706.1606335074822.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <CABuQYCBrOaBTy140ECCJkw_Q7p1EAgMoc4XRK9Emo3_H+CYMnw@mail.gmail.com>
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I think I fixed mine.  :-\

It took a reinstall.
But i mean a complete full download/reinstal of everything gambas.

I fully uninstalled using  *make uninstall*
I manually deleted anything gambas related left in */usr/bin /usr/lib
/usr/share*
I deleted my downloaded gambas clone dir.

I re-downloaded the git clone
did all from ./reconf-all to 'make install'

Now both issues of not getting a menu right clicking the designer and the
search box crashing seem to have gone :)

Must have been something not getting deleted/refreshed during the
compile/install commands

Suffice to say the above steps have worked for me.
(fingers crossed it stays that way)

BruceS

On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 at 20:22, Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com> wrote:

> I am having the same problem with the filter/search box the ide hangs or
> crashes randomly
>
> Thank You
> Brian G
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 00:30:07 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 23:30:07 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] customising my gambas TextEditorMode
In-Reply-To: <9438c767-78cf-b757-e43f-da0cc561b205@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAGMRa09TveAWbqA7fgoNm1fAG3GW28927t_uooN9Ghfg@mail.gmail.com>
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Can anyone confirm or deny doing what Ben says works?

I tried...
Private Type As Integer Use $Type

And nothing happened.
Bruce.


On Tue, 1 Dec 2020, 17:15 Beno?t Minisini, <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 01/12/2020 ? 16:12, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> > forgot to mention I also added this to line 617 ..
> > *  $hEditor.Insert("\n\nPrivate $" & sName & " As " & sType & gb.Lf)
> > *
> >
>
> Otherwise, you can use the syntax:
>
> Property FooBar As String Use $sFooBar
>
> It's faster to write!
>
> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/propdecl
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Thu Dec  3 01:03:01 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 19:03:01 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] customising my gambas TextEditorMode
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAv00fT2q28YmRXm12L5=6gZVYSNX-SZKxsvx+ZT=jrwg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAGMRa09TveAWbqA7fgoNm1fAG3GW28927t_uooN9Ghfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDA_GV2hd1BD0eXZTAFiLMX6sfy_SJRWuagHQGsF6pOrw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDTe=8hMHrTW032__wni6VGoO16yVJNKTiKT4dhQLnwXg@mail.gmail.com>
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Nothing should happen.? Did you try compiling your code?? Running your 
code ie writing to and reading from your property?? It should work.

According to the wiki:

*Property*?Name *As* *String**Use*?$sName

is an exact equivalent of:

*Property*?Name *As* *String* *Private*?$sName *As* *String* *Private* 
*Sub*?Name_Read*()* *As* *String* *Return*?$sName *End* *Private* 
*Sub*?Name_Write*(*Value *As* *String**)* ??$sName *=*?Value *End*

Gambas does not create the equivalent code, as it would with a code 
snippet.? The property declaration with Use replaces all that code.

On 2020-12-02 6:30 p.m., Bruce Steers wrote:
> Can anyone confirm or deny doing what Ben says works?
>
> I tried...
> Private Type As Integer Use $Type
>
> And nothing happened.
> Bruce.
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020, 17:15 Beno?t Minisini, <g4mba5 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Le 01/12/2020 ? 16:12, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
>     >
>     > forgot to mention I also added this to line 617 ..
>     > *? $hEditor.Insert("\n\nPrivate $" & sName & " As " & sType & gb.Lf)
>     > *
>     >
>
>     Otherwise, you can use the syntax:
>
>     Property FooBar As String Use $sFooBar
>
>     It's faster to write!
>
>     https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/propdecl
>     <https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/propdecl>
>
>     Regards,
>
>     -- 
>     Beno?t Minisini
>
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 02:55:26 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 01:55:26 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] customising my gambas TextEditorMode
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References: <CABuQYCAGMRa09TveAWbqA7fgoNm1fAG3GW28927t_uooN9Ghfg@mail.gmail.com>
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aaaah , thank you sir.
Now i understand.  (slaps head in stupidity)



On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 00:12, Tony Morehen <tmorehen at ajm-software.com> wrote:

> Nothing should happen.  Did you try compiling your code?  Running your
> code ie writing to and reading from your property?  It should work.
>
> According to the wiki:
>
> *Property* Name *As* *String* *Use* $sName
>
> is an exact equivalent of:
>
> *Property* Name *As* *String**Private* $sName *As* *String*
> *Private* *Sub* Name_Read*()* *As* *String*  *Return* $sName*End*
> *Private* *Sub* Name_Write*(*Value *As* *String**)*
>   $sName *=* Value*End*
>
> Gambas does not create the equivalent code, as it would with a code
> snippet.  The property declaration with Use replaces all that code.
>
> On 2020-12-02 6:30 p.m., Bruce Steers wrote:
>
> Can anyone confirm or deny doing what Ben says works?
>
> I tried...
> Private Type As Integer Use $Type
>
> And nothing happened.
> Bruce.
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020, 17:15 Beno?t Minisini, <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Le 01/12/2020 ? 16:12, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
>> >
>> > forgot to mention I also added this to line 617 ..
>> > *  $hEditor.Insert("\n\nPrivate $" & sName & " As " & sType & gb.Lf)
>> > *
>> >
>>
>> Otherwise, you can use the syntax:
>>
>> Property FooBar As String Use $sFooBar
>>
>> It's faster to write!
>>
>> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/propdecl
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 07:13:59 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 07:13:59 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] customising my gambas TextEditorMode
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCA6vunyu6rP0dpVuTEjNmXApaCOsT-56dfzqs_fX85ODg@mail.gmail.com>
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And if you add some of the code by your self like
Public sub Prop_Write(valie as type)
Control of value
End

It override the virtual one generate by USE.. magic ?
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From claus.dietrich at freenet.de  Thu Dec  3 11:56:48 2020
From: claus.dietrich at freenet.de (Claus Dietrich)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 11:56:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Web-Form-Apps
Message-ID: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>

Hi

Although I gained some knowledge about Gambas over the years, I failed to write a Web-App with Gambas. My aim: Writing a Web-Form-App which provides a GUI on a Web-Browser just like those GUIs you get, when you connect with a web-browser to a router or NAS for configuration. My Web-applications would be purely technical, which means, that I want to manage (control) some equipment through a serial interface and this shall be possible from any PC/ mobile phone in my house.

So I started a Web-Form-App and added gb.net for the serial interface (the IDE didn't provide any warning). To my disappointment I found, that SerialPort-objects can be generated with a New-constructor, but they didn't work as usual. Right after generating the SerialPort-object I was able to send something over the RS232 interface, but any later attempt raised an "Null object" error.

What is wrong? Did I make any mistake? Are Gambas Web-Apps limited to database applications? Are Web-Form-Apps limited to controls designated as "Web"-controls? Are there any workarounds? Would it be possible to include gb.net into a Web-Form-App in the future if not possible today?

I have zero experience with web apps and would be grateful for any reply.

Best regards

Claus

P.S: I was using Gambas V3.15.2 with the embedded server.



From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Thu Dec  3 12:12:20 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 12:12:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Web-Form-Apps
In-Reply-To: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
References: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
Message-ID: <711a25c4-c1e2-a0a8-897a-13e9809dd2ac@osnanet.de>

Hi Claus

The reason for your surprise might be that you do not consider that apps 
for the web run "on demand" only. So when the page is read, the 
application runs through once, produces the answer page, sends it and stops.

Maybe I am writing nonsense here and gb.web is different? I don't think 
so, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I have no experience with gb.web 
yet, only have programmed a few purely coded web applications couple of 
years ago and did some testing when gb.web was still fairly new.

There is a newer technique which lets you think the application runs 
continuously, like does my banking website. This is called AJAX or Web 
2.0, but if you look under the hood, these apps merely run some of the 
code within the browser and still lease requests in the background like 
ever before.

Regards
Rolf


Am 03.12.20 um 11:56 schrieb Claus Dietrich:
> Hi
> 
> Although I gained some knowledge about Gambas over the years, I failed to write a Web-App with Gambas. My aim: Writing a Web-Form-App which provides a GUI on a Web-Browser just like those GUIs you get, when you connect with a web-browser to a router or NAS for configuration. My Web-applications would be purely technical, which means, that I want to manage (control) some equipment through a serial interface and this shall be possible from any PC/ mobile phone in my house.
> 
> So I started a Web-Form-App and added gb.net for the serial interface (the IDE didn't provide any warning). To my disappointment I found, that SerialPort-objects can be generated with a New-constructor, but they didn't work as usual. Right after generating the SerialPort-object I was able to send something over the RS232 interface, but any later attempt raised an "Null object" error.
> 
> What is wrong? Did I make any mistake? Are Gambas Web-Apps limited to database applications? Are Web-Form-Apps limited to controls designated as "Web"-controls? Are there any workarounds? Would it be possible to include gb.net into a Web-Form-App in the future if not possible today?
> 
> I have zero experience with web apps and would be grateful for any reply.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Claus
> 
> P.S: I was using Gambas V3.15.2 with the embedded server.
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 


From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 12:16:25 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 12:16:25 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Web-Form-Apps
In-Reply-To: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
References: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
Message-ID: <9605dd03-4dc9-9eee-917a-9d1daf4825ec@gmail.com>

Le 03/12/2020 ? 11:56, Claus Dietrich a ?crit :
> Hi
> 
> Although I gained some knowledge about Gambas over the years, I
> failed to write a Web-App with Gambas. My aim: Writing a Web-Form-App
> which provides a GUI on a Web-Browser just like those GUIs you get,
> when you connect with a web-browser to a router or NAS for
> configuration. My Web-applications would be purely technical, which
> means, that I want to manage (control) some equipment through a
> serial interface and this shall be possible from any PC/ mobile phone
> in my house.
> 
> So I started a Web-Form-App and added gb.net for the serial interface
> (the IDE didn't provide any warning). To my disappointment I found,
> that SerialPort-objects can be generated with a New-constructor, but
> they didn't work as usual. Right after generating the
> SerialPort-object I was able to send something over the RS232
> interface, but any later attempt raised an "Null object" error.
> 
> What is wrong? Did I make any mistake? Are Gambas Web-Apps limited to
> database applications? Are Web-Form-Apps limited to controls
> designated as "Web"-controls? Are there any workarounds? Would it be
> possible to include gb.net into a Web-Form-App in the future if not
> possible today?
> 
> I have zero experience with web apps and would be grateful for any
> reply.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Claus
> 
> P.S: I was using Gambas V3.15.2 with the embedded server.
> 
> 

Where is that project that does not work?

Do you use 'gb.web.gui' ?

You must use a real http server. The embedded http server is for 
debugging, it try to serialize requests, so some things may not work 
with it.

Regards,


-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 12:17:44 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 12:17:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Web-Form-Apps
In-Reply-To: <711a25c4-c1e2-a0a8-897a-13e9809dd2ac@osnanet.de>
References: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
 <711a25c4-c1e2-a0a8-897a-13e9809dd2ac@osnanet.de>
Message-ID: <3466d74e-45f0-7795-c711-552f2313980e@gmail.com>

Le 03/12/2020 ? 12:12, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit?:
> Hi Claus
> 
> The reason for your surprise might be that you do not consider that apps 
> for the web run "on demand" only. So when the page is read, the 
> application runs through once, produces the answer page, sends it and 
> stops.
> 

This is why I replaced 'gb.web.form' by 'gb.web.gui'.

With 'gb.web.gui', you can write tasks that continue to run even between 
requests, as each web session is replaced by a unique process.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Thu Dec  3 12:34:52 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 12:34:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Web-Form-Apps
In-Reply-To: <3466d74e-45f0-7795-c711-552f2313980e@gmail.com>
References: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
 <711a25c4-c1e2-a0a8-897a-13e9809dd2ac@osnanet.de>
 <3466d74e-45f0-7795-c711-552f2313980e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e079277-413f-ed39-2a0e-061b186d0e2b@osnanet.de>

Am 03.12.20 um 12:17 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 03/12/2020 ? 12:12, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit?:
>> Hi Claus
>>
>> The reason for your surprise might be that you do not consider that 
>> apps for the web run "on demand" only. So when the page is read, the 
>> application runs through once, produces the answer page, sends it and 
>> stops.
>>
> 
> This is why I replaced 'gb.web.form' by 'gb.web.gui'.
> 
> With 'gb.web.gui', you can write tasks that continue to run even between 
> requests, as each web session is replaced by a unique process.
> 
> Regards,
> 

That's clever! I think it's time for me to test it again :)


Regards
Rolf

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Thu Dec  3 13:07:40 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 13:07:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Web-Form-Apps
In-Reply-To: <3466d74e-45f0-7795-c711-552f2313980e@gmail.com>
References: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
 <711a25c4-c1e2-a0a8-897a-13e9809dd2ac@osnanet.de>
 <3466d74e-45f0-7795-c711-552f2313980e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2c41aab-a4e0-0fb9-5d64-810185f55e96@osnanet.de>

Am 03.12.20 um 12:17 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 03/12/2020 ? 12:12, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit?:
>> Hi Claus
>>
>> The reason for your surprise might be that you do not consider that 
>> apps for the web run "on demand" only. So when the page is read, the 
>> application runs through once, produces the answer page, sends it and 
>> stops.
>>
> 
> This is why I replaced 'gb.web.form' by 'gb.web.gui'.
> 
> With 'gb.web.gui', you can write tasks that continue to run even between 
> requests, as each web session is replaced by a unique process.
> 
> Regards,
> 

Strange - my Gambas 3.15.2 has no gb.web.gui component. Where is it?

I started a new project, choosing Web Form application. Was that wrong? 
It has gb.web and gb.web.form chosen as default.

Regards
Rolf

From hans at gambas-buch.de  Thu Dec  3 13:21:00 2020
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 13:21:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Web-Form-Apps
In-Reply-To: <e2c41aab-a4e0-0fb9-5d64-810185f55e96@osnanet.de>
References: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
 <711a25c4-c1e2-a0a8-897a-13e9809dd2ac@osnanet.de>
 <3466d74e-45f0-7795-c711-552f2313980e@gmail.com>
 <e2c41aab-a4e0-0fb9-5d64-810185f55e96@osnanet.de>
Message-ID: <27a3f93f-2c36-2f90-a45c-a8f28bc1297f@gambas-buch.de>

Hello Rolf,

I am also critical of that. A change to the component gb.web.gui is 
absolutely necessary if you select 'Web form application' as project type.

With kind regards

Hans

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 16:32:00 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 15:32:00 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fedora33 postgresql
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAnaqEuHRCciv5URw35F-c0g1v_z0D9JHBP_oxKY208LQ@mail.gmail.com>

Cant get postgresql to configure on fedora33

I installed gambas 3.15.2 from fedora repo and it failed to load. Just kept
crashing when trying to launch.

So going for compile.
Ive managed to get all dependencies but something is missing for postgresql.
?
Any clues?
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 16:41:17 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 15:41:17 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fedora33 postgresql
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAnaqEuHRCciv5URw35F-c0g1v_z0D9JHBP_oxKY208LQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCAnaqEuHRCciv5URw35F-c0g1v_z0D9JHBP_oxKY208LQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCARudbmFA4ogKoEta633ixTUE7q6KCHKzJsR87+6xS-8g@mail.gmail.com>

My apologies people.

I had installed the right thing but was only using configure to test.
Once i ran reconf again I got it working ?

On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, 15:32 Bruce Steers, <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Cant get postgresql to configure on fedora33
>
> I installed gambas 3.15.2 from fedora repo and it failed to load. Just
> kept crashing when trying to launch.
>
> So going for compile.
> Ive managed to get all dependencies but something is missing for
> postgresql.
> ?
> Any clues?
>
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Thu Dec  3 17:06:01 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 17:06:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Web-Form-Apps
In-Reply-To: <27a3f93f-2c36-2f90-a45c-a8f28bc1297f@gambas-buch.de>
References: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
 <711a25c4-c1e2-a0a8-897a-13e9809dd2ac@osnanet.de>
 <3466d74e-45f0-7795-c711-552f2313980e@gmail.com>
 <e2c41aab-a4e0-0fb9-5d64-810185f55e96@osnanet.de>
 <27a3f93f-2c36-2f90-a45c-a8f28bc1297f@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <e089e188-de06-ac15-647d-19a659e2e921@osnanet.de>

Am 03.12.20 um 13:21 schrieb Hans Lehmann:
> Hello Rolf,
> 
> I am also critical of that. A change to the component gb.web.gui is 
> absolutely necessary if you select 'Web form application' as project type.
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Hans
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Hello Hans,

The thing is, I couldn't even find it in the list. So where is it?

Gr??e
Rolf


From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Thu Dec  3 19:09:06 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 13:09:06 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Web-Form-Apps
In-Reply-To: <9605dd03-4dc9-9eee-917a-9d1daf4825ec@gmail.com>
References: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
 <9605dd03-4dc9-9eee-917a-9d1daf4825ec@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b83f2e1d-840d-54ed-513b-d6fd6195ed4a@ajm-software.com>

You may need to explicitly install it via your package manager.

On 2020-12-03 6:16 a.m., Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 03/12/2020 ? 11:56, Claus Dietrich a ?crit :
>> Hi
>>
>> Although I gained some knowledge about Gambas over the years, I
>> failed to write a Web-App with Gambas. My aim: Writing a Web-Form-App
>> which provides a GUI on a Web-Browser just like those GUIs you get,
>> when you connect with a web-browser to a router or NAS for
>> configuration. My Web-applications would be purely technical, which
>> means, that I want to manage (control) some equipment through a
>> serial interface and this shall be possible from any PC/ mobile phone
>> in my house.
>>
>> So I started a Web-Form-App and added gb.net for the serial interface
>> (the IDE didn't provide any warning). To my disappointment I found,
>> that SerialPort-objects can be generated with a New-constructor, but
>> they didn't work as usual. Right after generating the
>> SerialPort-object I was able to send something over the RS232
>> interface, but any later attempt raised an "Null object" error.
>>
>> What is wrong? Did I make any mistake? Are Gambas Web-Apps limited to
>> database applications? Are Web-Form-Apps limited to controls
>> designated as "Web"-controls? Are there any workarounds? Would it be
>> possible to include gb.net into a Web-Form-App in the future if not
>> possible today?
>>
>> I have zero experience with web apps and would be grateful for any
>> reply.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Claus
>>
>> P.S: I was using Gambas V3.15.2 with the embedded server.
>>
>>
>
> Where is that project that does not work?
>
> Do you use 'gb.web.gui' ?
>
> You must use a real http server. The embedded http server is for 
> debugging, it try to serialize requests, so some things may not work 
> with it.
>
> Regards,
>
>

From hans at gambas-buch.de  Thu Dec  3 19:25:24 2020
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 19:25:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Web-Form-Apps
In-Reply-To: <b83f2e1d-840d-54ed-513b-d6fd6195ed4a@ajm-software.com>
References: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
 <9605dd03-4dc9-9eee-917a-9d1daf4825ec@gmail.com>
 <b83f2e1d-840d-54ed-513b-d6fd6195ed4a@ajm-software.com>
Message-ID: <c19bfc2a-4f4f-f97a-a268-68c74a8a3b4e@gambas-buch.de>

Hello.

In the documentation under 'Web Development' you can find the two 
components gb.web.form and gb.web.gui. The first one is considered 
obsolete and the second one is greyed out. That means in my 
understanding: Hands off, this component is still under development; 
probably not even in beta status. But the documentation shows both, 
without any hint about the status of gb.web.gui. On the other hand you 
can find in the description of the component gb.web.gui that it replaces 
the component gb.web.form because it is faster and easier to use.

Therefore my questions: What now - what to do? Should one use the 
component gb.web.gui already now for new Web programs?

With kind regards

Hans

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 20:51:18 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 19:51:18 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab-ci / archlinux poppler-splash error,
 and Fedora inclusion
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings.
gitlab runner is failing on archlinuxs with..
*Unable to met pkg-config requirement: poppler-splash*
i tried adding poppler-qt5 and poppler to the list but still failing.

Ps.
I added fedora-latest to my ci
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/blob/bruces-patched/.gitlab-ci.yml

Any reason i shouldn't (or a reason you haven't Ben) ?

I Updated Fedora wiki page with dependencies for Fedora33 as i've just
installed it on a drive,
I updated the OS and installed the Fedora repositories 3.15.2 gambas only
to find it didn't load but crashed on trying to launch.
So...
I've copied the fedora v28 dependencies and modified/updated to work and
included the changes on the wiki and my gitlab-ci.yml file
Compilation was successful and all components compiled.
Gitlab runner passes.

Ben . could you check this list for anything old/depreciated please?

Many thanks.
BruceS

dnf install -y libtool libtool-ltdl-devel dumb-devel gmime-devel
gmime30-devel libffi-devel mariadb-devel postgresql-devel unixODBC-devel
sqlite2-devel libsqlite3x-devel SDL-devel SDL_*-devel libxslt-devel
libv4l-devel glew-devel poppler-devel qt-devel SDL2-devel SDL2_*-devel
cairo-devel gtk2-devel imlib2-devel librsvg2-devel qt-webkit-devel
openal-soft-devel libjpeg-turbo-devel gtkglext-devel gtk3-devel
poppler-glib-devel libxml2-devel libXtst-devel gsl-devel pcre-devel
mesa-libGL*-devel dbus-devel libcurl-devel alure-devel gstreamer1-devel
gstreamer1-plugins-base-devel libgnome-keyring-devel bzip2-devel
mariadb-*-devel postgresql-libs libglvnd-devel efl-devel compiz-devel
gtk+-devel gtk+extra-devel gtk2-engines-devel qt-devel-private qt5-*-devel
postgresql-server-devel webkit2gtk3-devel
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 21:36:58 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 21:36:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Web-Form-Apps
In-Reply-To: <c19bfc2a-4f4f-f97a-a268-68c74a8a3b4e@gambas-buch.de>
References: <debc4c1f-cf62-ab59-2d8c-5e61cea4e34e@freenet.de>
 <9605dd03-4dc9-9eee-917a-9d1daf4825ec@gmail.com>
 <b83f2e1d-840d-54ed-513b-d6fd6195ed4a@ajm-software.com>
 <c19bfc2a-4f4f-f97a-a268-68c74a8a3b4e@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <2b0761bf-ba86-323f-172a-163e2e47ddc5@gmail.com>

Le 03/12/2020 ? 19:25, Hans Lehmann a ?crit?:
> Hello.
> 
> In the documentation under 'Web Development' you can find the two 
> components gb.web.form and gb.web.gui. The first one is considered 
> obsolete and the second one is greyed out. That means in my 
> understanding: Hands off, this component is still under development; 
> probably not even in beta status. But the documentation shows both, 
> without any hint about the status of gb.web.gui. On the other hand you 
> can find in the description of the component gb.web.gui that it replaces 
> the component gb.web.form because it is faster and easier to use.
> 
> Therefore my questions: What now - what to do? Should one use the 
> component gb.web.gui already now for new Web programs?
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Hans
> 

It means that:

1) There is no development anymore in 'gb.web.form'.

2) 'gb.web.gui' will replace it.

3) 'gb.web.gui' has not yet all the features of 'gb.web.form'.

As soon as I have time to go back to work on 'gb.web.gui', it will quit 
its "beta" status.

But I was busy with other things that took more time than I thought.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 21:42:33 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 21:42:33 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab-ci / archlinux poppler-splash error,
 and Fedora inclusion
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c3e63fd5-b1f3-50ef-39d6-31e8115f2ffe@gmail.com>

Le 03/12/2020 ? 20:51, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> |Greetings.
> |
> |gitlab runner is failing on archlinuxs with..
> |
> ||
> *|Unable to met pkg-config requirement: poppler-splash|*
> ||
> |i tried adding poppler-qt5 and poppler to the list but still failing.|
> 

It worked before. ArchLinux is a rolling release, so things usually 
break unexpectedly.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From lordheavym at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 11:43:06 2020
From: lordheavym at gmail.com (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2020 11:43:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab-ci / archlinux poppler-splash error,
 and Fedora inclusion
In-Reply-To: <c3e63fd5-b1f3-50ef-39d6-31e8115f2ffe@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <c3e63fd5-b1f3-50ef-39d6-31e8115f2ffe@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2961308.yGcb3cvPug@lordh-pc>

Le jeudi 3 d?cembre 2020, 21:42:33 CET Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> Le 03/12/2020 ? 20:51, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > |Greetings.
> > |
> > |gitlab runner is failing on archlinuxs with..
> > 
> > *|Unable to met pkg-config requirement: poppler-splash|*
> > 
> > |i tried adding poppler-qt5 and poppler to the list but still failing.|
> 
> It worked before. ArchLinux is a rolling release, so things usually
> break unexpectedly.
> 
> Regards,

https://github.com/jwilk/pdf2djvu/issues/144
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 12:25:37 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 12:25:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab-ci / archlinux poppler-splash error,
 and Fedora inclusion
In-Reply-To: <2961308.yGcb3cvPug@lordh-pc>
References: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <38f81287-2036-a185-32d9-3c3e258d879a@gmail.com>

Le 04/12/2020 ? 11:43, Laurent Carlier a ?crit?:
> Le jeudi 3 d?cembre 2020, 21:42:33 CET Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>> Le 03/12/2020 ? 20:51, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
>>> |Greetings.
>>> |
>>> |gitlab runner is failing on archlinuxs with..
>>>
>>> *|Unable to met pkg-config requirement: poppler-splash|*
>>>
>>> |i tried adding poppler-qt5 and poppler to the list but still failing.|
>>
>> It worked before. ArchLinux is a rolling release, so things usually
>> break unexpectedly.
>>
>> Regards,
> 
> https://github.com/jwilk/pdf2djvu/issues/144
> 

It's a problem, as apparently there is no way in poppler to draw a PDF 
page without using their private Splash interface. I will try with the 
poppler-cpp frontend. Maybe this is now the required way?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Fri Dec  4 13:39:38 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 07:39:38 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab-ci / archlinux poppler-splash error,
 and Fedora inclusion
In-Reply-To: <38f81287-2036-a185-32d9-3c3e258d879a@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <c3e63fd5-b1f3-50ef-39d6-31e8115f2ffe@gmail.com>
 <2961308.yGcb3cvPug@lordh-pc>
 <38f81287-2036-a185-32d9-3c3e258d879a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4897186a-3b14-2cb7-964c-9c570530b6e1@ajm-software.com>

Poppler has various page render function that render to cairo surfaces 
or ps files:

*poppler_page_render ()*

void??????????????? poppler_page_render (PopplerPage *page,
 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? cairo_t *cairo);

Render the page to the given cairo context. This function is for 
rendering a page that will be displayed. If you want to render a page 
that will be printed use poppler_page_render_for_printing() instead

page :??? the page to render from
cairo :??? cairo context to render to

*poppler_page_render_for_printing ()*

void??????????????? poppler_page_render_for_printing (PopplerPage *page,
 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? cairo_t *cairo);

Render the page to the given cairo context for printing.

page :??? the page to render from
cairo :??? cairo context to render to

*poppler_page_render_for_printing_with_options ()**
*
void??????????????? poppler_page_render_for_printing_with_options
(PopplerPage *page,
 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? cairo_t *cairo,
PopplerPrintFlags options);

Render the page to the given cairo context for printing with the 
specified options

page :??? the page to render from
cairo :??? cairo context to render to
options :??? print options

*poppler_page_render_to_ps ()**
*
void??????????????? poppler_page_render_to_ps (PopplerPage *page,
PopplerPSFile *ps_file);

Render the page on a postscript file

page :??? a PopplerPage
ps_file :??? the PopplerPSFile to render to poppler_page_render_selection ()

void??????????????? poppler_page_render_selection (PopplerPage *page,
 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? cairo_t *cairo,
PopplerRectangle *selection,
PopplerRectangle *old_selection,
PopplerSelectionStyle style,
PopplerColor *glyph_color,
PopplerColor *background_color);

Render the selection specified by selection for page to the given cairo 
context. The selection will be rendered, using glyph_color for the 
glyphs and background_color for the selection background.

If non-NULL, old_selection specifies the selection that is already 
rendered to cairo, in which case this function will (some day) only 
render the changed part of the selection.

page :??? the PopplerPage for which to render selection
cairo :??? cairo context to render to
selection :??? start and end point of selection as a rectangle
old_selection :??? previous selection
style :??? a PopplerSelectionStyle
glyph_color :??? color to use for drawing glyphs
background_color :??? color to use for the selection background

On 2020-12-04 6:25 a.m., Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 04/12/2020 ? 11:43, Laurent Carlier a ?crit?:
>> Le jeudi 3 d?cembre 2020, 21:42:33 CET Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>>> Le 03/12/2020 ? 20:51, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
>>>> |Greetings.
>>>> |
>>>> |gitlab runner is failing on archlinuxs with..
>>>>
>>>> *|Unable to met pkg-config requirement: poppler-splash|*
>>>>
>>>> |i tried adding poppler-qt5 and poppler to the list but still 
>>>> failing.|
>>>
>>> It worked before. ArchLinux is a rolling release, so things usually
>>> break unexpectedly.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>
>> https://github.com/jwilk/pdf2djvu/issues/144
>>
>
> It's a problem, as apparently there is no way in poppler to draw a PDF 
> page without using their private Splash interface. I will try with the 
> poppler-cpp frontend. Maybe this is now the required way?
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 13:50:50 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 13:50:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab-ci / archlinux poppler-splash error,
 and Fedora inclusion
In-Reply-To: <4897186a-3b14-2cb7-964c-9c570530b6e1@ajm-software.com>
References: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <c3e63fd5-b1f3-50ef-39d6-31e8115f2ffe@gmail.com>
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 <38f81287-2036-a185-32d9-3c3e258d879a@gmail.com>
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Le 04/12/2020 ? 13:39, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
> Poppler has various page render function that render to cairo surfaces 
> or ps files:
> 

It's useless for me, as 'gb.poppler' must not depend on any graphical 
library.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Fri Dec  4 14:17:58 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 08:17:58 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab-ci / archlinux poppler-splash error,
 and Fedora inclusion
In-Reply-To: <fdf35a8f-c64e-eedc-9cc0-9a7952021b58@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <c3e63fd5-b1f3-50ef-39d6-31e8115f2ffe@gmail.com>
 <2961308.yGcb3cvPug@lordh-pc>
 <38f81287-2036-a185-32d9-3c3e258d879a@gmail.com>
 <4897186a-3b14-2cb7-964c-9c570530b6e1@ajm-software.com>
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I understand.? Poppler-glib's page renderer does return a raw image.? 
Hopefully, there are no gotchas.? I seem to remember I couldn't find any 
index entries.? However, gb.poppler's simplified interface makes that 
irrelevant.

On 2020-12-04 7:50 a.m., Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 04/12/2020 ? 13:39, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
>> Poppler has various page render function that render to cairo 
>> surfaces or ps files:
>>
>
> It's useless for me, as 'gb.poppler' must not depend on any graphical 
> library.
>
> Regards,
>

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 16:29:22 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 15:29:22 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab-ci / archlinux poppler-splash error,
 and Fedora inclusion
In-Reply-To: <38f81287-2036-a185-32d9-3c3e258d879a@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <c3e63fd5-b1f3-50ef-39d6-31e8115f2ffe@gmail.com> <2961308.yGcb3cvPug@lordh-pc>
 <38f81287-2036-a185-32d9-3c3e258d879a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBE4kzo+hPCD38mNQc8nqsDnyhsZ_R810TMuAx0rc8HKA@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, something new. (someone should tell these people "If it ain't broke,
don't fix it" ;) )

I've not updated my Manjaro system and was able to compile latest commit
without error last night.
Just seems to be the gitlab runner having issues.
I'm guessing if i update poppler to 20.12 i could have problems too.

Cheers Ben, I'm sure you'll find a way :)


On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 11:26, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 04/12/2020 ? 11:43, Laurent Carlier a ?crit :
> > Le jeudi 3 d?cembre 2020, 21:42:33 CET Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> >> Le 03/12/2020 ? 20:51, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >>> |Greetings.
> >>> |
> >>> |gitlab runner is failing on archlinuxs with..
> >>>
> >>> *|Unable to met pkg-config requirement: poppler-splash|*
> >>>
> >>> |i tried adding poppler-qt5 and poppler to the list but still failing.|
> >>
> >> It worked before. ArchLinux is a rolling release, so things usually
> >> break unexpectedly.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >
> > https://github.com/jwilk/pdf2djvu/issues/144
> >
>
> It's a problem, as apparently there is no way in poppler to draw a PDF
> page without using their private Splash interface. I will try with the
> poppler-cpp frontend. Maybe this is now the required way?
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 19:58:43 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 19:58:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab-ci / archlinux poppler-splash error,
 and Fedora inclusion
In-Reply-To: <51ef90fe-2f20-cc7c-581c-1b187726023a@ajm-software.com>
References: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <c3e63fd5-b1f3-50ef-39d6-31e8115f2ffe@gmail.com>
 <2961308.yGcb3cvPug@lordh-pc>
 <38f81287-2036-a185-32d9-3c3e258d879a@gmail.com>
 <4897186a-3b14-2cb7-964c-9c570530b6e1@ajm-software.com>
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Message-ID: <b8f33cb3-5477-19c0-a428-86cb203102d1@gmail.com>

Le 04/12/2020 ? 14:17, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
> I understand.? Poppler-glib's page renderer does return a raw image. 
> Hopefully, there are no gotchas.? I seem to remember I couldn't find any 
> index entries.? However, gb.poppler's simplified interface makes that 
> irrelevant.
> 

So...

Either you use 'poppler-splash', and you can render the page, but it 
won't work in the new versions of poppler.

Either you use 'poppler-glib', and you have to render using Cairo, so 
Cairo becomes a requested depency, even if you just want to draw the 
page images with the QT library. (Same remark with 'poppler-qt5' and GTK+).

Or you can use 'poppler-cpp', but as that plugin is not finished, you 
won't have any information on the actions associated with table of 
contents items, making the table of contents useless.

As you can see, it's hard to make things worse! Is there a goal to make 
poppler usable one day?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Fri Dec  4 20:18:51 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 14:18:51 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab-ci / archlinux poppler-splash error,
 and Fedora inclusion
In-Reply-To: <b8f33cb3-5477-19c0-a428-86cb203102d1@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <d10e269a-230c-8de3-7cff-1395dc0b9b6f@ajm-software.com>

poppler-cpp may have table of contents items, however, I couldn't find 
them... opaque documentation and no example code.? That's what I miss 
from the microsoft world (excellent docs and code all over the 
internet).? And don't get me started about the coding practices of gnome 
and Lennart Poettering.

Their style is in sharp contrast to your own and to Linus Torvald's.

On 2020-12-04 1:58 p.m., Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 04/12/2020 ? 14:17, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
>> I understand.? Poppler-glib's page renderer does return a raw image. 
>> Hopefully, there are no gotchas.? I seem to remember I couldn't find 
>> any index entries. However, gb.poppler's simplified interface makes 
>> that irrelevant.
>>
>
> So...
>
> Either you use 'poppler-splash', and you can render the page, but it 
> won't work in the new versions of poppler.
>
> Either you use 'poppler-glib', and you have to render using Cairo, so 
> Cairo becomes a requested depency, even if you just want to draw the 
> page images with the QT library. (Same remark with 'poppler-qt5' and 
> GTK+).
>
> Or you can use 'poppler-cpp', but as that plugin is not finished, you 
> won't have any information on the actions associated with table of 
> contents items, making the table of contents useless.
>
> As you can see, it's hard to make things worse! Is there a goal to 
> make poppler usable one day?
>

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 22:10:39 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 07:40:39 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Colour button - colour not displaying after
 selecting.
In-Reply-To: <3aeb159e-53f7-2fe1-88ca-b291e12faab5@iinet.net.au>
References: <f7d9ca90-6fd1-9668-35c9-2438abecebf4@iinet.net.au>
 <1d0d6a2b-cf16-31f2-462c-b4473070df78@gmail.com>
 <3aeb159e-53f7-2fe1-88ca-b291e12faab5@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <c7c4ac1e-173e-6ecd-0537-5bdb76a28e89@gmail.com>

On 1/12/20 9:31 am, Ian Roper wrote:

 > [Libraries]

 > QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.12.8

Here the current version of Qt5 is libQt5Core.so.5.15.2
Looks like Mint 20 missed out a whole lotta QT5 updates

Don't know if that's the reason but as I said It works for both QT4 
(libQtCore.so.4.8.7) and Qt5. I note though that we both have the same 
libQtCore.so.4.8.7 and it doesn't work with that gui in both places.

So I don't know if you can get a later QT5 version somehow but that's 
about all I can suggest.

regards
bruce

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 23:37:12 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 23:37:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab-ci / archlinux poppler-splash error,
 and Fedora inclusion
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References: <CABuQYCBAuKodSt5L9xrmvhLXorjxb02kaWwUdXnCmpB3W3h+_A@mail.gmail.com>
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 <38f81287-2036-a185-32d9-3c3e258d879a@gmail.com>
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Le 04/12/2020 ? 20:18, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
> poppler-cpp may have table of contents items, however, I couldn't find 
> them... opaque documentation and no example code.? That's what I miss 
> from the microsoft world (excellent docs and code all over the 
> internet).? And don't get me started about the coding practices of gnome 
> and Lennart Poettering.
> 
> Their style is in sharp contrast to your own and to Linus Torvald's.
> 

I solved the problem by using both poppler-cpp for the rendering, and 
poppler-glib for the rest. It is not perfect because I have to open the 
pdf document twice, to create the page object at each rendering. But at 
least it works.

As for microsoft, I remember having in the past examples in their 
DirectX documentation that didn't work at all. :-) But it was in times 
when playing a video successfully was near a miracle.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From vuott at tiscali.it  Sat Dec  5 02:44:34 2020
From: vuott at tiscali.it (vuott at tiscali.it)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2020 02:44:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] WARNINGS with Commits master 096129d7
Message-ID: <b252685412149dbd8fb0d94b9ff793f0@tiscali.it>

  Hello,

with updating Commits master 096129d7 I obtain these
warnings:

checking for gb.poppler component with pkg-config...
no
configure: WARNING: Unable to met pkg-config requirement:
poppler-cpp
configure: WARNING: gb.poppler is
disabled
......
......

||
|| Unable to met pkg-config requirement:
poppler-cpp
|| gb.poppler is disabled
||

||
|| THESE COMPONENTS ARE
DISABLED:
|| - .......
|| - gb.poppler
|| - .......

Regards 



Con Tiscali Mobile Smart 30 4G hai minuti illimitati, 100 SMS e 30 Giga in 4G a soli 8,99? al mese. http://tisca.li/smart30

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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 03:55:41 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 13:25:41 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] WARNINGS with Commits master 096129d7
In-Reply-To: <b252685412149dbd8fb0d94b9ff793f0@tiscali.it>
References: <b252685412149dbd8fb0d94b9ff793f0@tiscali.it>
Message-ID: <f83fe888-582b-a9b1-9e2b-2db8e13d5595@gmail.com>

On 5/12/20 12:14 pm, vuott at tiscali.it wrote:
>    Hello,
> 
> with updating Commits master 096129d7 I obtain these
> warnings:
> 
> checking for gb.poppler component with pkg-config...
> no
> configure: WARNING: Unable to met pkg-config requirement:
> poppler-cpp
> configure: WARNING: gb.poppler is
> disabled
> ......
> ......
> 
> ||
> || Unable to met pkg-config requirement:
> poppler-cpp
> || gb.poppler is disabled
> ||
> 
> ||
> || THESE COMPONENTS ARE
> DISABLED:
> || - .......
> || - gb.poppler
> || - .......
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
> Con Tiscali Mobile Smart 30 4G hai minuti illimitati, 100 SMS e 30 Giga in 4G a soli 8,99? al mese. http://tisca.li/smart30
>

You are probably missing one or more of the header files. Here they are:
lib64assuan-devel
lib64gmime-devel
lib64gmime3.0-devel
lib64gmime3.0_0
lib64gpgme-devel
lib64qgpgme

regards


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 03:59:22 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 13:29:22 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] string[].Sort(bASC) only sorts ascendig
Message-ID: <a40a7bae-c634-f7dc-b400-f797056df66e@gmail.com>

With latest commits I can only sort string arrays in ascending order no 
matter what the value of bASC is.
(This is on the pure Gambas3 install, i.e. no local customisations).

SOS
bruce

From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 04:13:22 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 05:13:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] string[].Sort(bASC) only sorts ascendig
In-Reply-To: <a40a7bae-c634-f7dc-b400-f797056df66e@gmail.com>
References: <a40a7bae-c634-f7dc-b400-f797056df66e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7R78XwGpqiKuCr039=n2_DtaUp41yngb3RdYA-fzJV4nQ@mail.gmail.com>

It's not boolean. See gb.Ascent and gb.Descent.


Jussi

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 5:00 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> With latest commits I can only sort string arrays in ascending order no
> matter what the value of bASC is.
> (This is on the pure Gambas3 install, i.e. no local customisations).
>
> SOS
> bruce
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 04:21:35 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 03:21:35 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] WARNINGS with Commits master 096129d7
In-Reply-To: <b252685412149dbd8fb0d94b9ff793f0@tiscali.it>
References: <b252685412149dbd8fb0d94b9ff793f0@tiscali.it>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDX=v9tt-TQuYc58FD5ND9XTBcxV_ovG3n8+LLZwP6bSg@mail.gmail.com>

There's been an update to poppler that broke things, Ben has fixed it.

you need to install poppler-cpp-dev
then download the latest commit.

BruceS

On Sat, 5 Dec 2020 at 01:45, <vuott at tiscali.it> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> with updating Commits master 096129d7 I obtain these warnings:
>
> checking for gb.poppler component with pkg-config... no
> configure: WARNING: Unable to met pkg-config requirement: poppler-cpp
> configure: WARNING: gb.poppler is disabled
> ......
> ......
>
> ||
> || Unable to met pkg-config requirement: poppler-cpp
> || gb.poppler is disabled
> ||
>
>
>
> ||
> || THESE COMPONENTS ARE DISABLED:
> || - .......
> || - gb.poppler
> || - .......
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Con Tiscali Mobile Smart 30 4G hai minuti illimitati, 100 SMS e 30 Giga in
> 4G a soli 8,99? al mese. http://tisca.li/smart30
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 06:41:57 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 05:41:57 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] WARNINGS with Commits master 096129d7
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDX=v9tt-TQuYc58FD5ND9XTBcxV_ovG3n8+LLZwP6bSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b252685412149dbd8fb0d94b9ff793f0@tiscali.it>
 <CABuQYCDX=v9tt-TQuYc58FD5ND9XTBcxV_ovG3n8+LLZwP6bSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCCOScH9stks8RDhxOs-5T43-UCKUwU0oEM6nicgxyF-w@mail.gmail.com>

> you need to install poppler-cpp-dev
> then download the latest commit.
>

This seems like I'm just blowing my own trumpet or a shameless plug but I
think the facts do have merit ;)

The install/compile script i wrote handled the update perfectly :)

https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas3-compile-and-install
I use it all the time to update/compile/install.
Just by pressing return (then typing my pw) ....
It did a 'git pull' and found a new commit, detected the new dependency
added and auto installed it for me , then did all but ./reconf-all (as i've
set it that way)  :)
If you have not seen it try it out :)
http://bws.org.uk/images/gci.png
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 06:59:21 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 16:29:21 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] WARNINGS with Commits master 096129d7
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCCOScH9stks8RDhxOs-5T43-UCKUwU0oEM6nicgxyF-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b252685412149dbd8fb0d94b9ff793f0@tiscali.it>
 <CABuQYCDX=v9tt-TQuYc58FD5ND9XTBcxV_ovG3n8+LLZwP6bSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCCCOScH9stks8RDhxOs-5T43-UCKUwU0oEM6nicgxyF-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38542144-5aef-0d3b-b080-c22b938cef71@gmail.com>

On 5/12/20 4:11 pm, Bruce Steers wrote:
>> you need to install poppler-cpp-dev
>> then download the latest commit.
>>
> 
> This seems like I'm just blowing my own trumpet or a shameless plug but I
> think the facts do have merit ;)
> 
> The install/compile script i wrote handled the update perfectly :)
> 
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas3-compile-and-install
> I use it all the time to update/compile/install.
> Just by pressing return (then typing my pw) ....
> It did a 'git pull' and found a new commit, detected the new dependency
> added and auto installed it for me , then did all but ./reconf-all (as i've
> set it that way)  :)
> If you have not seen it try it out :)
> http://bws.org.uk/images/gci.png
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

No, it didn't here.

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 07:05:47 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 06:05:47 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] WARNINGS with Commits master 096129d7
In-Reply-To: <38542144-5aef-0d3b-b080-c22b938cef71@gmail.com>
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 <CABuQYCDX=v9tt-TQuYc58FD5ND9XTBcxV_ovG3n8+LLZwP6bSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCCCOScH9stks8RDhxOs-5T43-UCKUwU0oEM6nicgxyF-w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCAo9S8Z6FpdLKBn591yTenQ80+Cy7j_xO1qDBOKjx2Mvg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 5 Dec 2020 at 06:00, Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/12/20 4:11 pm, Bruce Steers wrote:
> >> you need to install poppler-cpp-dev
> >> then download the latest commit.
> >>
> >
> > This seems like I'm just blowing my own trumpet or a shameless plug but I
> > think the facts do have merit ;)
> >
> > The install/compile script i wrote handled the update perfectly :)
> >
> > https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas3-compile-and-install
> > I use it all the time to update/compile/install.
> > Just by pressing return (then typing my pw) ....
> > It did a 'git pull' and found a new commit, detected the new dependency
> > added and auto installed it for me , then did all but ./reconf-all (as
> i've
> > set it that way)  :)
> > If you have not seen it try it out :)
> > http://bws.org.uk/images/gci.png
> >
>
> No, it didn't here.
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

Don't you have sudo banned on your computers?
it uses sudo.
I'm sure you know how to fix that.
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 09:09:21 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 18:39:21 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] string[].Sort(bASC) only sorts ascendig
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7R78XwGpqiKuCr039=n2_DtaUp41yngb3RdYA-fzJV4nQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a40a7bae-c634-f7dc-b400-f797056df66e@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <a6e69d82-723d-884d-ebd8-9bb61f1f43dd@gmail.com>

On 5/12/20 1:43 pm, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> It's not boolean. See gb.Ascent and gb.Descent.
> 
> 
> Jussi
> 
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 5:00 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> With latest commits I can only sort string arrays in ascending order no
>> matter what the value of bASC is.
>> (This is on the pure Gambas3 install, i.e. no local customisations).
>>
>> SOS
>> bruce
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Bugger! That code has been working for years.

Gridview.Columns.Ascending is Boolean and was just assigning that to the 
sort (as a Boolean. Now Iguess I'll have to use a complex 1 level If 
test. ;-)

b

From kicking177 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 12:26:05 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 11:26:05 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Private settings file question
Message-ID: <510fa39d-ab9c-bd8e-cd2d-0962fd1d6a16@gmail.com>

So I want to have a private application configuration file in a set 
location of my choosing (i.e. not in ~/.config/Gambas)
A simplified test of what I attempted is below but does not appear to work.
There is no conf file to start with (I want to have a UI to request the 
settings to save)
When I run the below, there are no errors, but there is no conf file is 
created either?

> Dim confFile As Settings
> Dim strConfFile as String
> Dim strImageFilesPath as String
> Dim varTest01 as Variant
> strConfFile = "/home/user01/TestSettings.conf"
> confFile = New Settings(mCore.gstrConfFile)
> strImageFilesPath = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath", Null]
> If IsNull(strImageFilesPath) Then
> ??? strImageFilesPath = "/media/external01/Images"
> ??? varTest01 = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath", 
> strImageFilesPath]
> Endif
> confFile.Save


From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 14:26:25 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 23:56:25 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Private settings file question
In-Reply-To: <510fa39d-ab9c-bd8e-cd2d-0962fd1d6a16@gmail.com>
References: <510fa39d-ab9c-bd8e-cd2d-0962fd1d6a16@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5c30ab2c-d0b7-637e-fe70-0d5e10921e13@gmail.com>

On 5/12/20 9:56 pm, KKing wrote:
> So I want to have a private application configuration file in a set 
> location of my choosing (i.e. not in ~/.config/Gambas)
> A simplified test of what I attempted is below but does not appear to work.
> There is no conf file to start with (I want to have a UI to request the 
> settings to save)
> When I run the below, there are no errors, but there is no conf file is 
> created either?
> 
>> Dim confFile As Settings
>> Dim strConfFile as String
>> Dim strImageFilesPath as String
>> Dim varTest01 as Variant
>> strConfFile = "/home/user01/TestSettings.conf"
>> confFile = New Settings(mCore.gstrConfFile)
>> strImageFilesPath = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath", Null]
>> If IsNull(strImageFilesPath) Then
>> ??? strImageFilesPath = "/media/external01/Images"
>> ??? varTest01 = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath", 
>> strImageFilesPath]
>> Endif
>> confFile.Save
> 


confFile = New Settings(mCore.gstrConfFile)
at line 6 - Di you mean
confFile = New Settings(gstrConfFile)

b

From kicking177 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 14:55:53 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 13:55:53 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Private settings file question
Message-ID: <d3ae378a-c96b-4d8e-1565-a5ee2e6e577b@gmail.com>

sorry mistyped on trying to provide simplified example
 ??? mCore.gstrConfFile
should be
 ?? strConfFile
> confFile = New Settings(mCore.gstrConfFile)
> at line 6 - Di you mean
> confFile = New Settings(gstrConfFile)

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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 15:25:29 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 15:25:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Component gb.web.gui
In-Reply-To: <e09022fe-1799-a84d-c262-3dcc9770c621@gambas-buch.de>
References: <e09022fe-1799-a84d-c262-3dcc9770c621@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <2e44c542-8b2d-1736-e51c-2725f88f46c9@gmail.com>

Le 28/11/2020 ? 18:22, Hans Lehmann a ?crit?:
> Hello,
> 
> i am experimenting with the component gb.web.gui for a chapter for the 
> Gambas book. The web form consists of 3 areas: (1) Header (2) Main (3) 
> Footer. The main area contains on the left (2.1) the navigation with 
> several buttons and on the right (2.2) the content. All areas are of 
> type Web-Container.
> 
> Three tasks present me with considerable problems:
> 
> * The actual navigation currently consists of only 5 web buttons. How do 
> I realize that when I click on a selected button, a specific web page is 
> loaded into the content area and displayed?

It depends on what exactly is your content area.

You can use a WebTabPanel for that, setting its ShowTabs property to FALSE.

Each time you click on a button in the left bar, you change the Index 
property of the TabPanel.

> 
> * How can I achieve that only the content of the content area is 
> scrolled (if its height becomes too large), so that the navigation (and 
> footer also !) remains static in its place (and does not scroll with it) 
> and is thus partially no longer visible?

You must embed its contents into a WebScrollView.

> 
> * Where do I insert a CSS file in the project directory for a uniform 
> design and how do I integrate this CSS file into the project?

You must define a 'style.css' file inside the "Public" folder of your 
project. It is automatically inserted after the style sheet file defined 
by 'gb.web.gui'.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 16:19:41 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 16:19:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] About dates and calendars in Gambas
Message-ID: <216f6caf-f552-513a-5c2b-774c5f4a26b8@gmail.com>

Hi,

I wrote a little documentation page about dates and calendars in Gambas, 
that add a bit more explanation about how dates are managed in Gambas.

It's here: https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/calendar

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 17:05:32 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 16:05:32 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Private settings file question
In-Reply-To: <510fa39d-ab9c-bd8e-cd2d-0962fd1d6a16@gmail.com>
References: <510fa39d-ab9c-bd8e-cd2d-0962fd1d6a16@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDoX8+7rGr=TwfpLCjaXH09o7UAOyoeC73Pyyu-3Cr9fw@mail.gmail.com>

You example does not "Write" any settings, it only tries to read them.

Try...
varTest01 = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath", strImageFilesPath]
confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath"] = varTest01
confFile.Save

BruceS

On Sat, 5 Dec 2020 at 11:27, KKing <kicking177 at gmail.com> wrote:

> So I want to have a private application configuration file in a set
> location of my choosing (i.e. not in ~/.config/Gambas)
> A simplified test of what I attempted is below but does not appear to work.
> There is no conf file to start with (I want to have a UI to request the
> settings to save)
> When I run the below, there are no errors, but there is no conf file is
> created either?
>
> > Dim confFile As Settings
> > Dim strConfFile as String
> > Dim strImageFilesPath as String
> > Dim varTest01 as Variant
> > strConfFile = "/home/user01/TestSettings.conf"
> > confFile = New Settings(mCore.gstrConfFile)
> > strImageFilesPath = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath", Null]
> > If IsNull(strImageFilesPath) Then
> >     strImageFilesPath = "/media/external01/Images"
> >     varTest01 = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath",
> > strImageFilesPath]
> > Endif
> > confFile.Save
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 19:28:39 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 20:28:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] string[].Sort(bASC) only sorts ascendig
In-Reply-To: <a6e69d82-723d-884d-ebd8-9bb61f1f43dd@gmail.com>
References: <a40a7bae-c634-f7dc-b400-f797056df66e@gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7R78XwGpqiKuCr039=n2_DtaUp41yngb3RdYA-fzJV4nQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFJMe7RJahwbBb8oQ+0a-VustRxLGPFjSdBhE9R5RJLH4CzjZg@mail.gmail.com>

I usually do something like this, if I "have" to use the boolean anyway:
string[].Sort(Iif(bASC, gb.Ascent, gb.Descent))

Jussi



On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 10:10 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/12/20 1:43 pm, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> > It's not boolean. See gb.Ascent and gb.Descent.
> >
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 5:00 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> With latest commits I can only sort string arrays in ascending order no
> >> matter what the value of bASC is.
> >> (This is on the pure Gambas3 install, i.e. no local customisations).
> >>
> >> SOS
> >> bruce
> >>
> >> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> Bugger! That code has been working for years.
>
> Gridview.Columns.Ascending is Boolean and was just assigning that to the
> sort (as a Boolean. Now Iguess I'll have to use a complex 1 level If
> test. ;-)
>
> b
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From karl.reinl at fen-net.de  Sat Dec  5 21:21:45 2020
From: karl.reinl at fen-net.de (Karl Reinl)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2020 21:21:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] WARNINGS with Commits master 096129d7
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCCOScH9stks8RDhxOs-5T43-UCKUwU0oEM6nicgxyF-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b252685412149dbd8fb0d94b9ff793f0@tiscali.it>
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Message-ID: <c7e6e16ceb4ca008ce04bc705982612a8336eecb.camel@fen-net.de>

Am Samstag, den 05.12.2020, 05:41 +0000 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> > you need to install poppler-cpp-dev
> > then download the latest commit.
> 
> This seems like I'm just blowing my own trumpet or a shameless plug
> but I think the facts do have merit ;)
> 
> The install/compile script i wrote handled the update perfectly :)
> 
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas3-compile-and-installI use it all
> the time to update/compile/install.
> Just by pressing return (then typing my pw) ....It did a 'git
> pull' and found a new commit, detected the new dependency added and
> auto installed it for me , then did all but ./reconf-all (as i've set
> it that way)  :)
> If you have not seen it try it out :)
> http://bws.org.uk/images/gci.png
> 

Salut Bruce,
gave it a chance, and ran it on a poor Mint installation (just the
basics), download by curl failed don't remember why, and git  because
wasn't installed. 

-- 
Amicalement
Charlie

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From karl.reinl at fen-net.de  Sat Dec  5 22:21:09 2020
From: karl.reinl at fen-net.de (Karl Reinl)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2020 22:21:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] WARNINGS with Commits master 096129d7
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCCOScH9stks8RDhxOs-5T43-UCKUwU0oEM6nicgxyF-w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <fc997b88570055ec656e2890274cbeaa5ac44d74.camel@Fen-Net.de>

Am Samstag, den 05.12.2020, 05:41 +0000 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> > you need to install poppler-cpp-dev
> > then download the latest commit.
> 
> This seems like I'm just blowing my own trumpet or a shameless plug
> but I think the facts do have merit ;)
> 
> The install/compile script i wrote handled the update perfectly :)
> 
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas3-compile-and-installI use it all
> the time to update/compile/install.
> Just by pressing return (then typing my pw) ....It did a 'git
> pull' and found a new commit, detected the new dependency added and
> auto installed it for me , then did all but ./reconf-all (as i've set
> it that way)  :)
> If you have not seen it try it out :)
> http://bws.org.uk/images/gci.png
> 

Salut Bruce,
gave it a chance, and ran it on a poor Mint installation (just the
basics), download by curl failed don't remember why, and git  because
wasn't installed. 
got it:
Or just press return for git stable. : cs
Enter name for downloaded folder or press return for
default 'gambas-stable' or 'gambas-main' in current
dir./home/xxx/Schreibtisch/gambas3-compile-and-install-V3.2/gambas(You
may also give an alternative path, eg. /home/xxx/Downloads/gambas-
main)Name: ~/src/gambas/3/gambas30/Downloading '
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/archive/stable/gambas-stable.zip' to
'/home/xxx/src/gambas/3/gambas-stable.zip'  % Total    % Received %
Xferd  Average
Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current                                 
Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed 
0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:
--     0curl: (6) Could not resolve host: $DLFILE
Error! Downloading with curl failed.
-- 
AmicalementCharlie

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 22:43:59 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 21:43:59 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] WARNINGS with Commits master 096129d7
In-Reply-To: <fc997b88570055ec656e2890274cbeaa5ac44d74.camel@Fen-Net.de>
References: <b252685412149dbd8fb0d94b9ff793f0@tiscali.it>
 <CABuQYCDX=v9tt-TQuYc58FD5ND9XTBcxV_ovG3n8+LLZwP6bSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCCCOScH9stks8RDhxOs-5T43-UCKUwU0oEM6nicgxyF-w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCDSdxbCW5jz3-QvS93s9XLPA3=kQea1PbBqYXP3cBMVdg@mail.gmail.com>

haha, thank you ,

I investigated , found the bug , and fixed it , just uploaded the fix.

Then came here to reply to find you also found the bug lol :)

Not sure how that pesky little thing got there :(
Line 237 was
curl '$DLFILE' -o  "$DLDIR/$ANAME"

I changed single quotes for doubles and it's okay now.

Thanks again :)


On Sat, 5 Dec 2020 at 21:22, Karl Reinl <karl.reinl at fen-net.de> wrote:

> Am Samstag, den 05.12.2020, 05:41 +0000 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>
>
> you need to install poppler-cpp-dev
> then download the latest commit.
>
>
> This seems like I'm just blowing my own trumpet or a shameless plug but I
> think the facts do have merit ;)
>
> The install/compile script i wrote handled the update perfectly :)
>
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas3-compile-and-install
> I use it all the time to update/compile/install.
> Just by pressing return (then typing my pw) ....
> It did a 'git pull' and found a new commit, detected the new dependency
> added and auto installed it for me , then did all but ./reconf-all (as
> i've set it that way)  :)
> If you have not seen it try it out :)
> http://bws.org.uk/images/gci.png
>
>
> Salut Bruce,
>
>
> gave it a chance, and ran it on a poor Mint installation (just the
> basics), download by curl failed don't remember why, and git  because
> wasn't installed.
>
> got it:
>
> Or just press return for git stable. : cs
>
> Enter name for downloaded folder or press return for
>
> default 'gambas-stable' or 'gambas-main' in current dir.
> /home/xxx/Schreibtisch/gambas3-compile-and-install-V3.2/gambas
> (You may also give an alternative path, eg.
> /home/xxx/Downloads/gambas-main)
> Name: ~/src/gambas/3/gambas30/
> Downloading '
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/archive/stable/gambas-stable.zip' to
> '/home/xxx/src/gambas/3/gambas-stable.zip'
>   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average
> Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
>
>                                  Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
>   0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:--
> --:--:--     0curl: (6) Could not resolve host: $DLFILE
>
> Error! Downloading with curl failed.
>
> --
>
>
> Amicalement
>
> Charlie
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From kicking177 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 09:26:10 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 08:26:10 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Private settings file question
Message-ID: <e7856235-9e27-2696-9c29-1190f84ce0ae@gmail.com>

thank you, that works even if I don't find it intuitive

to me something like

 ? ? confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath"] = strImageFilesPath

would make more sense than

 ??? varTest01 = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath", 
strImageFilesPath]
 ? ? confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath"] = varTest01

but obviously not.

> You example does not "Write" any settings, it only tries to read them.
>
> Try...
> varTest01 = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath", strImageFilesPath]
> confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath"] = varTest01
> confFile.Save


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 14:59:27 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 13:59:27 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Private settings file question
In-Reply-To: <e7856235-9e27-2696-9c29-1190f84ce0ae@gmail.com>
References: <e7856235-9e27-2696-9c29-1190f84ce0ae@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCC3yGc7ChVnaAhtga=+wDpT-b9x35xJGbvz324CGK-8oA@mail.gmail.com>

Well if you just want to write the setting then yes.
I was just adapting the code you wrote.

The example you posted wrote nothing but you wanted the data written to
file.

*varTest01 = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath", strImageFilesPath]*
That attempts to find and read the setting, if not there is uses the
default you supplied.
That's what you would use at program start to get the setting.

*confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath"] = varTest01*
That writes the setting, you would use this at any setting change.
*confFile.Save*
No real need to use that unless you want the settings file on disk to be
updated instantly during program run as all setting changes are saved to
disk at program close.

Clever stuff.


On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 08:27, KKing <kicking177 at gmail.com> wrote:

> thank you, that works even if I don't find it intuitive
>
> to me something like
>
>      confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath"] = strImageFilesPath
>
> would make more sense than
>
>      varTest01 = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath",
> strImageFilesPath]
>      confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath"] = varTest01
>
> but obviously not.
>
> > You example does not "Write" any settings, it only tries to read them.
> >
> > Try...
> > varTest01 = confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath", strImageFilesPath]
> > confFile["UserPreferences/ImageFilesPath"] = varTest01
> > confFile.Save
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Mon Dec  7 16:27:46 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 16:27:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] LibreDWG Bindings available, we need collaborators
Message-ID: <a8ff6f95-ecb5-3bd2-8349-c22dfb491e7b@belmotek.net>

Hi everyone,

The LibreDWG team are working hard, recently they give to us the gambas 
bindings as they call it.

Here in GauchoCAD team we really need some help in order to implement 
this in gambas as a component.

I consider that the implementation of this library in Gambas is very 
important but unfortunately I do not have the knowledge to do it, I 
continue using shell instructions.Again I ask for help here to take a 
look (I leave the link below) if someone could collaborate it would be 
great. Thank you.

https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings

Regards.

MB

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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 17:22:46 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 17:22:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] LibreDWG Bindings available, we need collaborators
In-Reply-To: <a8ff6f95-ecb5-3bd2-8349-c22dfb491e7b@belmotek.net>
References: <a8ff6f95-ecb5-3bd2-8349-c22dfb491e7b@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL5f+5Xtc8AsPeZU24TVFdMAGZeptR2ptu-kggnidoNo1Q@mail.gmail.com>

This need to included in the gambas tree.

Le lun. 7 d?c. 2020 ? 16:49, Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net> a ?crit :

> Hi everyone,
>
> The LibreDWG team are working hard, recently they give to us the gambas
> bindings as they call it.
>
> Here in GauchoCAD team we really need some help in order to implement this
> in gambas as a component.
>
> I consider that the implementation of this library in Gambas is very
> important but unfortunately I do not have the knowledge to do it, I
> continue using shell instructions. Again I ask for help here to take a
> look (I leave the link below) if someone could collaborate it would be
> great. Thank you.
>
> https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings
>
> Regards.
>
> MB
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From sharon at 455.co.il  Mon Dec  7 20:23:41 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:23:41 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] shell command with gb.web.gui
Message-ID: <20201207191523.M19292@455.co.il>

Hello

gambas 3.15.2
fedora 32 64 bit

I use gb.web.gui

There's a problem when I finish downloading any file:
Event: Finish
I run a command through the shell
For example I wait 10 seconds "shell sleep 10" (sample only)
Indeed it works well as long as I am through the IDE
But if I compile and put the file on an HTTPD server in cgi-bin
For some reason when he finishes the standby command
The entire session is deleted and restarts
The thing is that if I execute the same command at the push of a button it works well

Sorry for my English, so I'm attaching a demo
Attached are Gambas files
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 21:26:47 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:26:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] shell command with gb.web.gui
In-Reply-To: <20201207191523.M19292@455.co.il>
References: <20201207191523.M19292@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <16f37ebe-5535-c163-40f8-19a746317936@gmail.com>

Le 07/12/2020 ? 20:23, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> Hello
> 
> gambas 3.15.2
> fedora 32 64 bit
> 
> I use gb.web.gui
> 
> There's a problem when I finish downloading any file:
> Event: Finish
> I run a command through the shell
> For example I wait 10 seconds "shell sleep 10" (sample only)
> Indeed it works well as long as I am through the IDE
> But if I compile and put the file on an HTTPD server in cgi-bin
> For some reason when he finishes the standby command
> The entire session is deleted and restarts
> The thing is that if I execute the same command at the push of a button it works well
> 
> Sorry for my English, so I'm attaching a demo
> Attached are Gambas files
> 

You must not use SLEEP, because the web server waits for you answer, and 
you may reach the session timeout (which is five minutes by default).

You must run your process asynchronously, and use its "Kill" event to 
get its answer.

You must understand that your project is normally suspended, and is 
woken up each time a request is sent by the browser.

If you run your sub-process synchronously, you may reach the session 
timeout.

If you run your sub-process asynchronously, your project will return 
(almost) immediately and be suspended until the next request, while the 
sub-process run in the background.

When your projet wakes up again, if the sub-process has been terminated 
meanwhile, you should normally get the Kill event immediately, and then 
you can return the result in the request answer.

If you want your user think that al is synchronously, you have to 
disable the GUI when the user starts the action, and enables it back 
when you get the result of the sub-process.

I hope it's clearer now, it's a bit difficult to explain in english.

In other words: don't be synchronous, be asynchronous using the event loop!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Mon Dec  7 21:59:54 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:59:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] LibreDWG Bindings available, we need collaborators
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL5f+5Xtc8AsPeZU24TVFdMAGZeptR2ptu-kggnidoNo1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a8ff6f95-ecb5-3bd2-8349-c22dfb491e7b@belmotek.net>
 <CAFkCsL5f+5Xtc8AsPeZU24TVFdMAGZeptR2ptu-kggnidoNo1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38a09ae1-211c-ac82-e362-b383680aab4e@belmotek.net>

Ok, I put all the gambas-binding [1] files in overwriting a copy of the 
gb.dbus (see attach) component but nothing else.

[1] https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings

How I follow?

If I put this in the Gambas sources directory, in practice does it mean 
that I will have to change Gambas from my system to the development one 
and install from these sources?
to be able to do experiments with the libredwg library, right?
If I do this, I'm afraid that I can't develop the GauchoCAD application 
correctly or maybe I can, but to run it on another machine, it will also 
have to have the gambas development (my tuned) version?
Well I'm a little lost.
Is it possible to make a component and compile it and install it on my 
system, without using gambas development?
In that case I leave the attached file with a beginning of said 
component using gb.dbus as a base

Regards.

MB

On 7/12/20 17:22, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> This need to included in the gambas tree.
>
> Le lun. 7 d?c. 2020 ? 16:49, Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net 
> <mailto:mbelmonte at belmotek.net>> a ?crit?:
>
>     Hi everyone,
>
>     The LibreDWG team are working hard, recently they give to us the
>     gambas bindings as they call it.
>
>     Here in GauchoCAD team we really need some help in order to
>     implement this in gambas as a component.
>
>     I consider that the implementation of this library in Gambas is
>     very important but unfortunately I do not have the knowledge to do
>     it, I continue using shell instructions.Again I ask for help here
>     to take a look (I leave the link below) if someone could
>     collaborate it would be great. Thank you.
>
>     https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings
>     <https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings>
>
>     Regards.
>
>     MB
>
>
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 00:21:32 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 18:21:32 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to free an object with an active ServerSocket?
Message-ID: <5f198887-29b6-ff77-36a9-2b1058c3c893@gmail.com>

I have a project using a class that implements a ServerSocket.
In Form_Close(), set the object variable to Null so the object's _free method will get called.
But, with a ServerSocket actively Listening in that object, the _free method does not get called.

Is this by design? Am I doing something wrong? What is the proper manner in which to free an object with an active server?

It is simple to reproduce with a simple empty form:
' Gambas class file
' FMain.class

Private MyTester As Tester

Public Sub Form_Open()
   MyTester = New Tester As "MyTester"
End

Public Sub Form_Close()
   MyTester = Null
End

' Gambas class file
' Tester.class

Private MyServerSocket As ServerSocket

Public Sub _new()
   MyServerSocket = New ServerSocket As "MyServerSocket"
   MyServerSocket.Type = Net.Internet
   MyServerSocket.Port = 9090
   ' MyServerSocket.Listen ' Uncomment to prevent _free from being called.
End

Public Sub _free()
   Print "FREE"
   MyServerSocket.Close
End


-- 
Lee

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 01:07:20 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 01:07:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to free an object with an active ServerSocket?
In-Reply-To: <5f198887-29b6-ff77-36a9-2b1058c3c893@gmail.com>
References: <5f198887-29b6-ff77-36a9-2b1058c3c893@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b33a9b8-6d6e-3072-441c-dbf6b325efb4@gmail.com>

Le 08/12/2020 ? 00:21, T Lee Davidson a ?crit?:
> I have a project using a class that implements a ServerSocket.
> In Form_Close(), set the object variable to Null so the object's _free 
> method will get called.
> But, with a ServerSocket actively Listening in that object, the _free 
> method does not get called.
> 
> Is this by design? Am I doing something wrong? What is the proper manner 
> in which to free an object with an active server?
> 

It's the contrary. As Listen() references the SocketServer object, you 
must call the Close() method so that it can be freed later. You should 
never have to implement the _free() method.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 03:10:34 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:10:34 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to free an object with an active ServerSocket?
In-Reply-To: <2b33a9b8-6d6e-3072-441c-dbf6b325efb4@gmail.com>
References: <5f198887-29b6-ff77-36a9-2b1058c3c893@gmail.com>
 <2b33a9b8-6d6e-3072-441c-dbf6b325efb4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1d588eb8-b843-8aa4-d361-0abf2981cdd2@gmail.com>

On 12/7/20 7:07 PM, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 08/12/2020 ? 00:21, T Lee Davidson a ?crit?:
>> I have a project using a class that implements a ServerSocket.
>> In Form_Close(), set the object variable to Null so the object's _free method will get called.
>> But, with a ServerSocket actively Listening in that object, the _free method does not get called.
>>
>> Is this by design? Am I doing something wrong? What is the proper manner in which to free an object with an active server?
>>
> 
> It's the contrary. As Listen() references the SocketServer object, you must call the Close() method so that it can be freed 
> later. You should never have to implement the _free() method.

And that is what I attempt to do in the _free() method:
Public Sub _free()
   Print "FREE"
   MyServerSocket.Close
End

If I understand correctly, _free() is not getting called because Gambas is waiting for the active SocketServer to be Close'd.

So then, are you saying that I should implement a Close() method in the Tester class instead of relying on _free()?
Public Sub Close()
   MyServerSocket.Close
End

That doesn't make object sense to me because the internal workings of the Tester object should be privately encapsulated. (And, 
there is no Open() method.) But, if that is what will work, then that's what I'll do.


-- 
Lee

From sharon at 455.co.il  Tue Dec  8 06:32:36 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 07:32:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] shell command with gb.web.gui
In-Reply-To: <16f37ebe-5535-c163-40f8-19a746317936@gmail.com>
References: <20201207191523.M19292@455.co.il>
 <16f37ebe-5535-c163-40f8-19a746317936@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20201208053209.M26396@455.co.il>

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
Sent: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:26:47 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] shell command with gb.web.gui

> Le 07/12/2020 ? 20:23, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> > Hello
> > 
> > gambas 3.15.2
> > fedora 32 64 bit
> > 
> > I use gb.web.gui
> > 
> > There's a problem when I finish downloading any file:
> > Event: Finish
> > I run a command through the shell
> > For example I wait 10 seconds "shell sleep 10" (sample only)
> > Indeed it works well as long as I am through the IDE
> > But if I compile and put the file on an HTTPD server in cgi-bin
> > For some reason when he finishes the standby command
> > The entire session is deleted and restarts
> > The thing is that if I execute the same command at the push of a button it works well
> > 
> > Sorry for my English, so I'm attaching a demo
> > Attached are Gambas files
> >
> 
> You must not use SLEEP, because the web server waits for you answer, and 
> you may reach the session timeout (which is five minutes by default).
> 
> You must run your process asynchronously, and use its "Kill" event to 
> get its answer.
> 
> You must understand that your project is normally suspended, and is 
> woken up each time a request is sent by the browser.
> 
> If you run your sub-process synchronously, you may reach the session 
> timeout.
> 
> If you run your sub-process asynchronously, your project will return 
> (almost) immediately and be suspended until the next request, while the 
> sub-process run in the background.
> 
> When your projet wakes up again, if the sub-process has been terminated 
> meanwhile, you should normally get the Kill event immediately, and then 
> you can return the result in the request answer.
> 
> If you want your user think that al is synchronously, you have to 
> disable the GUI when the user starts the action, and enables it back 
> when you get the result of the sub-process.
> 
> I hope it's clearer now, it's a bit difficult to explain in english.
> 
> In other words: don't be synchronous, be asynchronous using the event loop!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
------- End of Original Message -------

Hello

First: the question is why when I run the same SHELL using the WebButton control event, it works well.

And when I run the same command through the WebFileButton control event, it does not work well.

Anyway, I also tried your advice to run the SHELL in the background like this:

Shell "/ bin / sleep 10" As "Process"

Public Sub Process_Kill ()
  
  
   Message ("Kill")
  
End

The thing is that when he finishes the process he goes into a Kill event
But I get an error:
Null Object In Webform1

It should be noted that "sleep" is just an example
In practice I want to upload a file to the server and perform any conversion on it and it can sometimes take a few seconds.


Thanks

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 15:31:18 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 14:31:18 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] send window to back (not stacking = below)
Message-ID: <CABuQYCB8XRjgEaMXs-ydQ=+mUMV4ThB_OXfFsiKE2BNvDd-sUg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all..

Anyone know how to send a window to the bottom or top of the stack?
I'm using the Window object and *win.Raise() *and *win.Lower() *do nothing.
setting *win.Stacking = Window.Top* or *Window.Bottom *sends to top or
bottom but keeps it there and if i set stacking back to normal the window
returns to it's position. ?

I'm stumped.
tia

I've added XTerm "window manipulations t" to TerminalView.
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/VT100-WinManipulation
Ie. using
echo -en "\033[4;200;600t" to Resize the term window.
echo -en "\033[10;2t" to toggle full screen.
(see list below)

It only makes sense to use these functions if your window is a Terminal
only app (no other controls just the terminal, like a normal terminal
application) So i added the bool Property WinManipulations to TerminalView.
By default it is false and the commands will not work. but set the property
to true and they will work on the top level window.

Have got 1 - 10 working but 5 and 6 are not quite right, they set
window.Stacking = Window.Above.
Here's the info from the merge request...

[GB.FORM.TERMINAL]

   - NEW: various XTerm window manipulation escape sequences added to VT100
   - NEW: Added Boolean Property WinManipulation to enable manipulations.

Useful if your terminalview is standalone in a form/window.
Set property TerminalView1.WinManipulations to True and it
enables the following XTerm escape sequences on the top window...
Eg. Type 'echo -en "\033[10;2t"' to toggle fullscreen.\

Handles the following codes...
1, minimize false
2, minimize true
3, move window (x,y)
4, Resize (h,w) in pixels
5, stack front (this sets or unsets Stacking=Window.Above)
6, stack back (this sets or unsets Stacking=Window.Below)
7, Refresh
8, Resize (cols,lines) text characters
9;0 maximize false
9;1 maximize true (also works as true/false toggle)
10;0 full screen off
10;1 full screen on
10;2 full screen toggle\

5 and 6 should ideally just send window to front or back and not set
stacking but i do not know how. Any advice appreciated :)
Tia
Bruce
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 15:37:48 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 14:37:48 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] send window to back (not stacking = below)
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCB8XRjgEaMXs-ydQ=+mUMV4ThB_OXfFsiKE2BNvDd-sUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCB8XRjgEaMXs-ydQ=+mUMV4ThB_OXfFsiKE2BNvDd-sUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBqjXyWXP0ziq52iMqjmpe6DqEHGDoD+94+Xs0S1iP8qQ@mail.gmail.com>

Note oops.
8, Resize (cols.lines)
i've put in the info the wrong way round there as (cols,lines) by
accident.
should be 8, Resize (lines, cols)

Bruce


On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 14:31, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all..
>
> Anyone know how to send a window to the bottom or top of the stack?
> I'm using the Window object and *win.Raise() *and *win.Lower() *do
> nothing.
> setting *win.Stacking = Window.Top* or *Window.Bottom *sends to top or
> bottom but keeps it there and if i set stacking back to normal the window
> returns to it's position. ?
>
> I'm stumped.
> tia
>
> I've added XTerm "window manipulations t" to TerminalView.
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/VT100-WinManipulation
> Ie. using
> echo -en "\033[4;200;600t" to Resize the term window.
> echo -en "\033[10;2t" to toggle full screen.
> (see list below)
>
> It only makes sense to use these functions if your window is a Terminal
> only app (no other controls just the terminal, like a normal terminal
> application) So i added the bool Property WinManipulations to TerminalView.
> By default it is false and the commands will not work. but set the
> property to true and they will work on the top level window.
>
> Have got 1 - 10 working but 5 and 6 are not quite right, they set
> window.Stacking = Window.Above.
> Here's the info from the merge request...
>
> [GB.FORM.TERMINAL]
>
>    - NEW: various XTerm window manipulation escape sequences added to
>    VT100
>    - NEW: Added Boolean Property WinManipulation to enable manipulations.
>
> Useful if your terminalview is standalone in a form/window.
> Set property TerminalView1.WinManipulations to True and it
> enables the following XTerm escape sequences on the top window...
> Eg. Type 'echo -en "\033[10;2t"' to toggle fullscreen.\
>
> Handles the following codes...
> 1, minimize false
> 2, minimize true
> 3, move window (x,y)
> 4, Resize (h,w) in pixels
> 5, stack front (this sets or unsets Stacking=Window.Above)
> 6, stack back (this sets or unsets Stacking=Window.Below)
> 7, Refresh
> 8, Resize (cols,lines) text characters
> 9;0 maximize false
> 9;1 maximize true (also works as true/false toggle)
> 10;0 full screen off
> 10;1 full screen on
> 10;2 full screen toggle\
>
> 5 and 6 should ideally just send window to front or back and not set
> stacking but i do not know how. Any advice appreciated :)
> Tia
> Bruce
>
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 16:09:52 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 16:09:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to free an object with an active ServerSocket?
In-Reply-To: <1d588eb8-b843-8aa4-d361-0abf2981cdd2@gmail.com>
References: <5f198887-29b6-ff77-36a9-2b1058c3c893@gmail.com>
 <2b33a9b8-6d6e-3072-441c-dbf6b325efb4@gmail.com>
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Il giorno mar 8 dic 2020 alle ore 03:11 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On 12/7/20 7:07 PM, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > Le 08/12/2020 ? 00:21, T Lee Davidson a ?crit :
> >> I have a project using a class that implements a ServerSocket.
> >
> > It's the contrary. As Listen() references the SocketServer object, you
> must call the Close() method so that it can be freed
> > later. You should never have to implement the _free() method.
>
> So then, are you saying that I should implement a Close() method in the
> Tester class instead of relying on _free()?
> Public Sub Close()
>    MyServerSocket.Close
> End
>
> That doesn't make object sense to me because the internal workings of the
> Tester object should be privately encapsulated. (And,
> there is no Open() method.) But, if that is what will work, then that's
> what I'll do.
>

Hi Lee,
why do you think a Close method (but you could also call it Liber) breaks
the encapsulation of the class, when the same ServerSocket class also uses
one?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 16:10:56 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 15:10:56 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] send window to back (not stacking = below)
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCB8XRjgEaMXs-ydQ=+mUMV4ThB_OXfFsiKE2BNvDd-sUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCB8XRjgEaMXs-ydQ=+mUMV4ThB_OXfFsiKE2BNvDd-sUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCA=ow_v54TwXw8mvvpF589ccuo9a2SObFsOTB2V61zQgg@mail.gmail.com>

>
>
> I've added XTerm "window manipulations t" to TerminalView.
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/VT100-WinManipulation
>

Forget the above link.
It had been added in 4 commits (updates/bugfixes) made seeing changes
unclear.
I've re-done it as and re-submitted merge request (not a draft this time)
as one commit so all the changes can be simply viewed on one page

https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/VT100-WinManipulation-1cmt

I figure it only needs one more update being the correct code to send the
window to top or bottom without changing the stacking mode.
So removed the WIP:
Bruce
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec  8 16:21:49 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 16:21:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] LibreDWG Bindings available, we need collaborators
In-Reply-To: <38a09ae1-211c-ac82-e362-b383680aab4e@belmotek.net>
References: <a8ff6f95-ecb5-3bd2-8349-c22dfb491e7b@belmotek.net>
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Hi Martin,

Am 07.12.20 um 21:59 schrieb Martin:

> Ok, I put all the gambas-binding [1] files in overwriting a copy of the
> gb.dbus (see attach) component but nothing else.

You attached a file called "gb.dwg.tar.gz".

Gmail bounced this mail from our mailinglist to any Gmail account.
Unfortunately nobody who has Google Mail can see it. We got a lot of
bounces as a lot of our users use Gmail.

Please rename it to "gb.dwg.txt" and try again. I think that should be
enough to get it through.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 19:13:53 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 20:13:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug with IsDate
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7Tj4B3HSDzM9uDFSRx5BApEyu-8=vUFEOpkR24FibRpRA@mail.gmail.com>

Currently in dev version IsDate does not understand the localization:
? IsDate(Str(Now))
False

$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_US
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_NAME=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_ALL=


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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 19:19:51 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 13:19:51 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to free an object with an active ServerSocket?
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFZszZftZ=JMygNcTTxkJ0NtyfqARS7imfBhYwoVCucKtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5f198887-29b6-ff77-36a9-2b1058c3c893@gmail.com>
 <2b33a9b8-6d6e-3072-441c-dbf6b325efb4@gmail.com>
 <1d588eb8-b843-8aa4-d361-0abf2981cdd2@gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZszZftZ=JMygNcTTxkJ0NtyfqARS7imfBhYwoVCucKtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3505a084-2b05-cdef-6cd8-0ea76e543ce7@gmail.com>

On 12/8/20 10:09 AM, Gianluigi wrote:
> Hi Lee,
> why do you think a Close method (but you could also call it Liber) breaks the encapsulation of the class, when the same 
> ServerSocket class also uses one?

Because the ServerSocket object is instantiated, and activated with Listen(), within my Tester class when a Tester object is 
created. So, the status of the ServerSocket is hidden from the Main form which uses it since the Main form does not need to know 
nor does it care. All of those details are encapsulated.

It just seems to me that I should also be able to Close() the ServerSocket when the Tester object is destroyed. And, I do not 
execute a Tester.Open(), I just create it with NEW. So, having to do a Tester.Close() just seems counter-intuitive.

A _beforefree special method would be nice. But, I'll just implement a Close, or Stop, or maybe even a BeforeFree method.


-- 
Lee

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 20:02:05 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 20:02:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to free an object with an active ServerSocket?
In-Reply-To: <3505a084-2b05-cdef-6cd8-0ea76e543ce7@gmail.com>
References: <5f198887-29b6-ff77-36a9-2b1058c3c893@gmail.com>
 <2b33a9b8-6d6e-3072-441c-dbf6b325efb4@gmail.com>
 <1d588eb8-b843-8aa4-d361-0abf2981cdd2@gmail.com>
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Il giorno mar 8 dic 2020 alle ore 19:20 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On 12/8/20 10:09 AM, Gianluigi wrote:
> > Hi Lee,
> > why do you think a Close method (but you could also call it Liber)
> breaks the encapsulation of the class, when the same
> > ServerSocket class also uses one?
>
> Because the ServerSocket object is instantiated, and activated with
> Listen(), within my Tester class when a Tester object is
> created. So, the status of the ServerSocket is hidden from the Main form
> which uses it since the Main form does not need to know
> nor does it care. All of those details are encapsulated.
>
> It just seems to me that I should also be able to Close() the ServerSocket
> when the Tester object is destroyed. And, I do not
> execute a Tester.Open(), I just create it with NEW. So, having to do a
> Tester.Close() just seems counter-intuitive.
>
> A _beforefree special method would be nice. But, I'll just implement a
> Close, or Stop, or maybe even a BeforeFree method.
>

However you, from FMain, always have to tell the class to destroy itself
(MyTester = Null), why not use a your method like Public Sub _destroy()?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 20:24:15 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 19:24:15 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] embedding url on wiki
Message-ID: <CABuQYCC2RwmQRqFUR9i3v2c2AiEceu9YGrGL4Rmum92uceZkHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all.
I've made a simple php script that shows the dependencies/commands needed
to compile gambas on your distro.

It reads the online giitlab-ci.yml file from gambas/gambas.
http://bws.org.uk/gambasdeps.php

Just click your distro and copy the text , shimples.


Is there any way to embed the code into the wiki ?
i would adapt it to suit of course.
the above link is just the initial write.
I've attached the file anyway for anyone to use/adapt

BruceS
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Tue Dec  8 21:18:41 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 21:18:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd:  LibreDWG Bindings available,
 we need collaborators
In-Reply-To: <38a09ae1-211c-ac82-e362-b383680aab4e@belmotek.net>
References: <38a09ae1-211c-ac82-e362-b383680aab4e@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <920ddba8-7978-954c-3276-e66a84efc13d@belmotek.net>

Ok, I re send this email for solve the attacment problem for gmail users.

Note: Rename please gb.dwg.txt to gb.dwg.tar.gz

Regards.

MB



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [Gambas-user] LibreDWG Bindings available, we need 
collaborators
Date: 	Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:59:54 +0100
From: 	Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net>
To: 	user at lists.gambas-basic.org



Ok, I put all the gambas-binding [1] files in overwriting a copy of the 
gb.dbus (see attach) component but nothing else.

[1] https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings

How I follow?

If I put this in the Gambas sources directory, in practice does it mean 
that I will have to change Gambas from my system to the development one 
and install from these sources?
to be able to do experiments with the libredwg library, right?
If I do this, I'm afraid that I can't develop the GauchoCAD application 
correctly or maybe I can, but to run it on another machine, it will also 
have to have the gambas development (my tuned) version?
Well I'm a little lost.
Is it possible to make a component and compile it and install it on my 
system, without using gambas development?
In that case I leave the attached file with a beginning of said 
component using gb.dbus as a base

Regards.

MB

On 7/12/20 17:22, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> This need to included in the gambas tree.
>
> Le lun. 7 d?c. 2020 ? 16:49, Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net 
> <mailto:mbelmonte at belmotek.net>> a ?crit?:
>
>     Hi everyone,
>
>     The LibreDWG team are working hard, recently they give to us the
>     gambas bindings as they call it.
>
>     Here in GauchoCAD team we really need some help in order to
>     implement this in gambas as a component.
>
>     I consider that the implementation of this library in Gambas is
>     very important but unfortunately I do not have the knowledge to do
>     it, I continue using shell instructions.Again I ask for help here
>     to take a look (I leave the link below) if someone could
>     collaborate it would be great. Thank you.
>
>     https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings
>     <https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings>
>
>     Regards.
>
>     MB
>
>
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>
>
> ----[http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette  ]----
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec  8 22:27:30 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 22:27:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: LibreDWG Bindings available,
 we need collaborators
In-Reply-To: <920ddba8-7978-954c-3276-e66a84efc13d@belmotek.net>
References: <38a09ae1-211c-ac82-e362-b383680aab4e@belmotek.net>
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Am 08.12.20 um 21:18 schrieb Martin:

> Ok, I re send this email for solve the attacment problem for gmail users.
> 
> Note: Rename please gb.dwg.txt to gb.dwg.tar.gz

Thank you! But Google learned. It bounced that also ... :(

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Wed Dec  9 09:03:17 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 09:03:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: LibreDWG Bindings available,
 we need collaborators
In-Reply-To: <fff5c05a-9886-acb2-86c5-d6aa680f0a89@deganius.de>
References: <38a09ae1-211c-ac82-e362-b383680aab4e@belmotek.net>
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Message-ID: <3b466213-7806-728c-b3ec-9af3502ba14c@belmotek.net>

Well, what I did was just mix the content of gb.dbus [1] and that of the 
gambas-bindigs [2] project, nothing else, so you could repeat the 
process and thus we avoid google. ?

[1] https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/tree/master/gb.dbus

[2] https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings

Regards

Mart?n Belmonte.

On 8/12/20 22:27, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 08.12.20 um 21:18 schrieb Martin:
>
>> Ok, I re send this email for solve the attacment problem for gmail users.
>>
>> Note: Rename please gb.dwg.txt to gb.dwg.tar.gz
> Thank you! But Google learned. It bounced that also ... :(
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 16:04:43 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 15:04:43 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] ncurses fail. says Screen incorrectly overridden
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBq1K_HtWBAHkeYMCvm3J_aaJeGjUsa52Kk6w2iSe1EHQ@mail.gmail.com>

If adding gb.ncurses component to any app when i try to run it says..

Screen height is incorrectly overridden in class Screen.

Bruce
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 16:22:02 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 15:22:02 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] send window to back (not stacking = below)
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCA=ow_v54TwXw8mvvpF589ccuo9a2SObFsOTB2V61zQgg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCB8XRjgEaMXs-ydQ=+mUMV4ThB_OXfFsiKE2BNvDd-sUg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCD2a9o=jcfBd7gVvd1WONyGj8Q4pVNR3LPXO93LLE5vFg@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like i was using the correct code *hView.Window.Lower()*

Seems Window.Lower() works okay on QT but does not work on GTK.
Bruce.

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 15:10, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> I've added XTerm "window manipulations t" to TerminalView.
>> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/VT100-WinManipulation
>>
>
> Forget the above link.
> It had been added in 4 commits (updates/bugfixes) made seeing changes
> unclear.
> I've re-done it as and re-submitted merge request (not a draft this time)
> as one commit so all the changes can be simply viewed on one page
>
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/VT100-WinManipulation-1cmt
>
> I figure it only needs one more update being the correct code to send the
> window to top or bottom without changing the stacking mode.
> So removed the WIP:
> Bruce
>
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 17:15:36 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:15:36 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to free an object with an active ServerSocket?
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On 12/8/20 2:02 PM, Gianluigi wrote:
> However you, from FMain, always have to tell the class to destroy itself (MyTester = Null), why not use a your method like 
> Public Sub _destroy()?
> 

Something like that is what I will do, Gianluigi, since my FMain form is going to have to explicitly close the SocketServer 
through a method such as your suggestion, _destroy(). Then, MyTester = Null would not be necessary since the object would get 
destroyed when the application closes.


-- 
Lee

From taboege at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 17:39:23 2020
From: taboege at gmail.com (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 17:39:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] ncurses fail. says Screen incorrectly overridden
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBq1K_HtWBAHkeYMCvm3J_aaJeGjUsa52Kk6w2iSe1EHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBq1K_HtWBAHkeYMCvm3J_aaJeGjUsa52Kk6w2iSe1EHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20201209163834.GD1811581@highrise.localdomain>

On Wed, 09 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
> If adding gb.ncurses component to any app when i try to run it says..
> 
> Screen height is incorrectly overridden in class Screen.
> 

The Screen class in gb.ncurses is static, as there is only one terminal
that a gb.ncurses program can use[*], and therefore all of its properties
are static as well. The project that you link gb.ncurses to seems to
have its own Screen class with a conflicting definition of the Height
property.

My guess: you're trying to mix a gb.gui-style component (which brings
a non-static Screen class) and gb.ncurses (with a static Screen class).
If yes, then do you really need the two user interfaces in a single
project?

Without namespaces in Gambas, conflicts like these are bound to occur.
>From an ncurses point of view, "Screen" was the right name to choose
for that class, but it has a very different meaning than "Screen" in
the GUI components.

The only thing you can do is not to mix the two classes of components.

Regards,
Tobias

[*] Not true for ncurses, but for gb.ncurses because it is not fully
developed to ncurses's capabilities.

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 17:45:10 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 17:45:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] ncurses fail. says Screen incorrectly overridden
In-Reply-To: <20201209163834.GD1811581@highrise.localdomain>
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Le 09/12/2020 ? 17:39, Tobias Boege a ?crit?:
> On Wed, 09 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
>> If adding gb.ncurses component to any app when i try to run it says..
>>
>> Screen height is incorrectly overridden in class Screen.
>>
> 
> The Screen class in gb.ncurses is static, as there is only one terminal
> that a gb.ncurses program can use[*], and therefore all of its properties
> are static as well. The project that you link gb.ncurses to seems to
> have its own Screen class with a conflicting definition of the Height
> property.
> 
> My guess: you're trying to mix a gb.gui-style component (which brings
> a non-static Screen class) and gb.ncurses (with a static Screen class).
> If yes, then do you really need the two user interfaces in a single
> project?
> 
> Without namespaces in Gambas, conflicts like these are bound to occur.
>>From an ncurses point of view, "Screen" was the right name to choose
> for that class, but it has a very different meaning than "Screen" in
> the GUI components.
> 
> The only thing you can do is not to mix the two classes of components.
> 
> Regards,
> Tobias
> 
> [*] Not true for ncurses, but for gb.ncurses because it is not fully
> developed to ncurses's capabilities.
> 

Maybe Screen could be dynamic and auto-creatable in gb.ncurses? It will 
keep the backward-compatibility, and makes its interface compatible with 
gb.gui interface.

My two cents.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 17:51:21 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 16:51:21 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] ncurses fail. says Screen incorrectly overridden
In-Reply-To: <20201209163834.GD1811581@highrise.localdomain>
References: <CABuQYCBq1K_HtWBAHkeYMCvm3J_aaJeGjUsa52Kk6w2iSe1EHQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Component=gb.image
Component=gb.gui
Component=gb.form
Component=gb.ncurses

Them's the components.
i just made a test app using gb.gui (attached)
It's got no code, no other gui components added just a form and 2 buttons.

Sounds like are you saying gb.ncurses cannot be used if your app has a GUI?
But i'm assuming i've misunderstood.
Bruce.


On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 16:40, Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > If adding gb.ncurses component to any app when i try to run it says..
> >
> > Screen height is incorrectly overridden in class Screen.
> >
>
> The Screen class in gb.ncurses is static, as there is only one terminal
> that a gb.ncurses program can use[*], and therefore all of its properties
> are static as well. The project that you link gb.ncurses to seems to
> have its own Screen class with a conflicting definition of the Height
> property.
>
> My guess: you're trying to mix a gb.gui-style component (which brings
> a non-static Screen class) and gb.ncurses (with a static Screen class).
> If yes, then do you really need the two user interfaces in a single
> project?
>
> Without namespaces in Gambas, conflicts like these are bound to occur.
> From an ncurses point of view, "Screen" was the right name to choose
> for that class, but it has a very different meaning than "Screen" in
> the GUI components.
>
> The only thing you can do is not to mix the two classes of components.
>
> Regards,
> Tobias
>
> [*] Not true for ncurses, but for gb.ncurses because it is not fully
> developed to ncurses's capabilities.
>
> --
> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 18:12:28 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 17:12:28 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] ncurses fail. says Screen incorrectly overridden
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAtVTaZkTFKXsM+A8CW++0THn003oHOVc88BasQDUzsEg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBq1K_HtWBAHkeYMCvm3J_aaJeGjUsa52Kk6w2iSe1EHQ@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Sounds like are you saying gb.ncurses cannot be used if your app has a GUI?
> But i'm assuming i've misunderstood.
>
Bruce
>

Maybe i didn't misunderstand?
I've just run some tests.
I cannot seem to use gb.ncurses in ANYTHING that has any sort of gui
component at all.
I tried gb.gui gb.gtk gb.qt5

Add any type of gui and i get the ncurses error.
i know ncurses is meant primarily for terminal use but i was trying to use
it on my terminal app, but it's essentially a GUI so i guess i can't then.

Cheers
Bruce.
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From taboege at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 18:19:16 2020
From: taboege at gmail.com (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 18:19:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] ncurses fail. says Screen incorrectly overridden
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAtVTaZkTFKXsM+A8CW++0THn003oHOVc88BasQDUzsEg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBq1K_HtWBAHkeYMCvm3J_aaJeGjUsa52Kk6w2iSe1EHQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20201209163834.GD1811581@highrise.localdomain>
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On Wed, 09 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
> Component=gb.image
> Component=gb.gui
> Component=gb.form
> Component=gb.ncurses
> 
> Them's the components.
> i just made a test app using gb.gui (attached)
> It's got no code, no other gui components added just a form and 2 buttons.
> 
> Sounds like are you saying gb.ncurses cannot be used if your app has a GUI?
> But i'm assuming i've misunderstood.

No, that's exactly right.

gb.ncurses gives your program the ability to have a terminal user
interface. It uses some of the same class names that the graphical
user interface components use, because it is also a type of user
interface, but it is a textual interfaces in the terminal, so the
interfaces are incompatible.

You cannot have both types of user interface in the same project,
you have to settle for one of them.

On Wed, 09 Dec 2020, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Maybe Screen could be dynamic and auto-creatable in gb.ncurses? It will keep
> the backward-compatibility, and makes its interface compatible with gb.gui
> interface.

Unfortunately, the incompatibilities don't stop there. Window.Border
is an Integer in gb.ncurses (there are three types of border) and a
Boolean in gb.qt4, for example.

Regards,
Tobias

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 19:10:11 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 18:10:11 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] ncurses fail. says Screen incorrectly overridden
In-Reply-To: <20201209171916.GE1811581@highrise.localdomain>
References: <CABuQYCBq1K_HtWBAHkeYMCvm3J_aaJeGjUsa52Kk6w2iSe1EHQ@mail.gmail.com>
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>

> > Sounds like are you saying gb.ncurses cannot be used if your app has a
> GUI?
> > But i'm assuming i've misunderstood.
>
> No, that's exactly right.
>
> gb.ncurses gives your program the ability to have a terminal user
> interface. It uses some of the same class names that the graphical
> user interface components use, because it is also a type of user
> interface, but it is a textual interfaces in the terminal, so the
> interfaces are incompatible.
>
> You cannot have both types of user interface in the same project,
> you have to settle for one of them.
>

Aah , now i see , thank you Tobias for the clarification  :)
Bruce
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From charlie at cogier.com  Thu Dec 10 15:33:01 2020
From: charlie at cogier.com (Charlie Ogier)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 14:33:01 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
Message-ID: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>

Hi Guys,

This looks a little dangerous to me, is this an issue?

Charlie

Public Sub Form_Open()

 ? ''Run this and close the Message by clicking the "X", NOT Yes or No.
 ? If Message.Question("Delete hard drive?", "No", "Yes") = 2 Then Print 
"Deleting hard drive"

End


From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 16:07:03 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 16:07:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
Message-ID: <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>

Le 10/12/2020 ? 15:33, Charlie Ogier a ?crit?:
> Hi Guys,
> 
> This looks a little dangerous to me, is this an issue?
> 
> Charlie
> 
> Public Sub Form_Open()
> 
>  ? ''Run this and close the Message by clicking the "X", NOT Yes or No.
>  ? If Message.Question("Delete hard drive?", "No", "Yes") = 2 Then Print 
> "Deleting hard drive"
> 
> End
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

The last button is always supposed to be the cancel action, so it is 
returned by default if you close the message box.

Maybe I should make the window close button inactive for message box, to 
avoid this ambiguity?

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Thu Dec 10 16:26:18 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 10:26:18 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
 <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00dbdc6a-34c9-e2cc-e982-303fe1466018@ajm-software.com>

Please don't.? Existing behaviour conforms to standard practice for 
Linux.? I do however suggest updating the documentation for message box 
to make this behavior explicit, ie, add a note to the effect:

    Closing the message box window using the window close button will
    perform the cancel action:? the message box will close and return
    the index of the last button.

I know, that wording is awkward and needs work but you get the idea.

On 2020-12-10 10:07 a.m., Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 10/12/2020 ? 15:33, Charlie Ogier a ?crit?:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> This looks a little dangerous to me, is this an issue?
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> Public Sub Form_Open()
>>
>> ?? ''Run this and close the Message by clicking the "X", NOT Yes or No.
>> ?? If Message.Question("Delete hard drive?", "No", "Yes") = 2 Then 
>> Print "Deleting hard drive"
>>
>> End
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> The last button is always supposed to be the cancel action, so it is 
> returned by default if you close the message box.
>
> Maybe I should make the window close button inactive for message box, 
> to avoid this ambiguity?
>
> Regards,
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 16:50:43 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 15:50:43 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <00dbdc6a-34c9-e2cc-e982-303fe1466018@ajm-software.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
 <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
 <00dbdc6a-34c9-e2cc-e982-303fe1466018@ajm-software.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCA2oti0O4d+jzmhYn96SmwabuY+0rkhufeo9M0iViineg@mail.gmail.com>

Most of us here can update the wiki.

I've added loads of info for things i've found.
Never expected anyone else to do it for me.

Come on team..
every little helps :)
Less talk more walk ;)


On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 15:27, Tony Morehen <tmorehen at ajm-software.com>
wrote:

> Please don't.  Existing behaviour conforms to standard practice for
> Linux.  I do however suggest updating the documentation for message box to
> make this behavior explicit, ie, add a note to the effect:
>
> Closing the message box window using the window close button will perform
> the cancel action:  the message box will close and return the index of the
> last button.
>
>
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From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Thu Dec 10 17:11:59 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 11:11:59 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCA2oti0O4d+jzmhYn96SmwabuY+0rkhufeo9M0iViineg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
 <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
 <00dbdc6a-34c9-e2cc-e982-303fe1466018@ajm-software.com>
 <CABuQYCA2oti0O4d+jzmhYn96SmwabuY+0rkhufeo9M0iViineg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <07c29a13-2a65-6f20-e0b6-c5bbf19f24c8@ajm-software.com>

Bruce, I thought about editing the wiki but decided that it would be 
better to wait until Benoit decided what approach to take.

One thing to consider:? if you want people to increase their 
contributions to Gambas, perhaps it would be better to take a less 
condescending tone in your emails.

On 2020-12-10 10:50 a.m., Bruce Steers wrote:
> Most of us here can update the wiki.
>
> I've added loads of info for things i've found.
> Never expected anyone else to do it for me.
>
> Come on team..
> every little helps :)
> Less talk more walk ;)
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 15:27, Tony Morehen <tmorehen at ajm-software.com 
> <mailto:tmorehen at ajm-software.com>> wrote:
>
>     Please don't.? Existing behaviour conforms to standard practice
>     for Linux.? I do however suggest updating the documentation for
>     message box to make this behavior explicit, ie, add a note to the
>     effect:
>
>         Closing the message box window using the window close button
>         will perform the cancel action:? the message box will close
>         and return the index of the last button.
>
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From charlie at cogier.com  Thu Dec 10 16:47:13 2020
From: charlie at cogier.com (Charlie Ogier)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 15:47:13 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
 <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0e1d5441-f72a-0868-5b5c-6d1df812c398@cogier.com>



On 10/12/2020 15:07, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 10/12/2020 ? 15:33, Charlie Ogier a ?crit?:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> This looks a little dangerous to me, is this an issue?
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> Public Sub Form_Open()
>>
>> ?? ''Run this and close the Message by clicking the "X", NOT Yes or No.
>> ?? If Message.Question("Delete hard drive?", "No", "Yes") = 2 Then 
>> Print "Deleting hard drive"
>>
>> End
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> The last button is always supposed to be the cancel action, so it is 
> returned by default if you close the message box.
>
> Maybe I should make the window close button inactive for message box, 
> to avoid this ambiguity?
>
> Regards,
Hi Beno?t,

I was using the "No" first as it is in focus.

Charlie



From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 19:11:33 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 20:11:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
 <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7Qw40389JHh3swoH_c-HpGQqEAizb5LJ5g-OdaBZzfQJQ@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Maybe I should make the window close button inactive for message box, to
> avoid this ambiguity?
>

Maybe it could be an optional argument?
Because questions are not always yes/no and thus returning one on closing
isn't necessarily expected.


Jussi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 19:37:13 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 18:37:13 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
 <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCALxUBbzC3mvY=vQswt+r6kG7xVwA9NtV28rPxu1jcemA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not sure what system it was i used but it always made the return value
of the right hand button 0 (is that vb?)
That made sense for "if not " conditioning on requesters.

But i'd agree the close button is not particularly needed (of course
there's Escape/close window keys to consider too)

Or as I suggested (apologies for rudeness) just a little more clarity on
the wiki. go for it. many thanks :)
BruceS

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 15:08, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 10/12/2020 ? 15:33, Charlie Ogier a ?crit :
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > This looks a little dangerous to me, is this an issue?
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > Public Sub Form_Open()
> >
> >    ''Run this and close the Message by clicking the "X", NOT Yes or No.
> >    If Message.Question("Delete hard drive?", "No", "Yes") = 2 Then Print
> > "Deleting hard drive"
> >
> > End
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> The last button is always supposed to be the cancel action, so it is
> returned by default if you close the message box.
>
> Maybe I should make the window close button inactive for message box, to
> avoid this ambiguity?
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 19:59:35 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 19:59:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
 <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYka1vOS1b-nV+zpp6hnc5ZNHMsW7fNapL=+W6FnHstpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno gio 10 dic 2020 alle ore 16:08 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Le 10/12/2020 ? 15:33, Charlie Ogier a ?crit :
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > This looks a little dangerous to me, is this an issue?
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > Public Sub Form_Open()
> >
> >    ''Run this and close the Message by clicking the "X", NOT Yes or No.
> >    If Message.Question("Delete hard drive?", "No", "Yes") = 2 Then Print
> > "Deleting hard drive"
> >
> > End
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> The last button is always supposed to be the cancel action, so it is
> returned by default if you close the message box.
>
> Maybe I should make the window close button inactive for message box, to
> avoid this ambiguity?
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>

With regards to standard message boxes, I'd leave things as they are,
including the close (X) button.
In Gambas it is very easy to create our new message box...

Regards
Gianluigi
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From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Thu Dec 10 20:57:43 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 14:57:43 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCA2oti0O4d+jzmhYn96SmwabuY+0rkhufeo9M0iViineg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
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As suggested, I've added a note to the wiki.

On 2020-12-10 10:50 a.m., Bruce Steers wrote:
> Most of us here can update the wiki.
>
> I've added loads of info for things i've found.
> Never expected anyone else to do it for me.
>
> Come on team..
> every little helps :)
> Less talk more walk ;)
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 15:27, Tony Morehen <tmorehen at ajm-software.com 
> <mailto:tmorehen at ajm-software.com>> wrote:
>
>     Please don't.? Existing behaviour conforms to standard practice
>     for Linux.? I do however suggest updating the documentation for
>     message box to make this behavior explicit, ie, add a note to the
>     effect:
>
>         Closing the message box window using the window close button
>         will perform the cancel action:? the message box will close
>         and return the index of the last button.
>
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Thu Dec 10 21:06:42 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 21:06:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
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Am 10.12.20 um 15:33 schrieb Charlie Ogier:

> This looks a little dangerous to me, is this an issue?

Yes.

> Public Sub Form_Open()
> 
>  ? ''Run this and close the Message by clicking the "X", NOT Yes or No.
>  ? If Message.Question("Delete hard drive?", "No", "Yes") = 2 Then Print 
> "Deleting hard drive"
> 
> End

In such cases i write:

> If Message.Question("Delete hard drive?", "No", "Yes", "Cancel") = 2 Then
> ...

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 21:43:11 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 20:43:11 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <12d418e3-b971-ac14-bf7d-40bba12e403a@ajm-software.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
 <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
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Great stuff.
Funny , i never knew you could use HTML in a message box.
I've only ever used normal text and never had an issue with gtk
interpreting html code.
I can see in the source code it's actually Richtext.

We learn something new every day eh?

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 19:58, Tony Morehen <tmorehen at ajm-software.com>
wrote:

> As suggested, I've added a note to the wiki.
> On 2020-12-10 10:50 a.m., Bruce Steers wrote:
>
> Most of us here can update the wiki.
>
> I've added loads of info for things i've found.
> Never expected anyone else to do it for me.
>
> Come on team..
> every little helps :)
> Less talk more walk ;)
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 15:27, Tony Morehen <tmorehen at ajm-software.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Please don't.  Existing behaviour conforms to standard practice for
>> Linux.  I do however suggest updating the documentation for message box to
>> make this behavior explicit, ie, add a note to the effect:
>>
>> Closing the message box window using the window close button will perform
>> the cancel action:  the message box will close and return the index of the
>> last button.
>>
>>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 00:37:11 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 00:37:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <00dbdc6a-34c9-e2cc-e982-303fe1466018@ajm-software.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
 <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <a1f06c5e-6155-ca67-ba60-38d14450a34d@gmail.com>

Le 10/12/2020 ? 16:26, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
> Please don't.? Existing behaviour conforms to standard practice for 
> Linux.? I do however suggest updating the documentation for message box 
> to make this behavior explicit, ie, add a note to the effect:

Yet it makes sense to forbid closing the message window if what the user 
wants is ambiguous. I don't want him to delete his hard drive by error 
just because the behaviour conforms to standard practice. :-)

Let's see!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 03:34:44 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 02:34:44 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <a1f06c5e-6155-ca67-ba60-38d14450a34d@gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
 <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
 <00dbdc6a-34c9-e2cc-e982-303fe1466018@ajm-software.com>
 <a1f06c5e-6155-ca67-ba60-38d14450a34d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDqxr-mST3pwE1zounK5KXeXhwOXCh6O4LL1rXj7bLvpw@mail.gmail.com>

what do you think of this Ben?
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/message-cancel-zero

It adds a Property/Option CancelIsZero to Message class and forces right
hand buttons (and closing window) to always be zero if set to True.

It does not particularly address the issue but does make sense for cancel
to always return zero in some cases.
(I couldn't see how to disable the windows close button but if there is a
way maybe an option to do that would be cool?)

Usage:
Message.CancelIsZero = True
then you will get...
Message,.Question("Text", "Button 1", "Button 2", "Button 0")

Closing window or pressing escape will also be zero.


On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 23:39, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 10/12/2020 ? 16:26, Tony Morehen a ?crit :
> > Please don't.  Existing behaviour conforms to standard practice for
> > Linux.  I do however suggest updating the documentation for message box
> > to make this behavior explicit, ie, add a note to the effect:
>
> Yet it makes sense to forbid closing the message window if what the user
> wants is ambiguous. I don't want him to delete his hard drive by error
> just because the behaviour conforms to standard practice. :-)
>
> Let's see!
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 04:24:14 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 03:24:14 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab runner, the older ubuntus are failing.
Message-ID: <CABuQYCABgGW9UF-h-Mmob2qBQ9=BBff4XjMTmsbwB4onPCxcEA@mail.gmail.com>

gitlab runner is having Ubuntu issues..

ubuntu eoan seems to have bad urls for repository or something as it cannot
connect and download/install much.
It fails saying libtoolize and autoreconf not found.

Trusty and Xenial are both failing trying to compile gtk3 sm/gnome-client.c

ubuntu-latest and all the others OS's are fine.

BruceS
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From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Fri Dec 11 07:00:51 2020
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 06:00:51 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDqxr-mST3pwE1zounK5KXeXhwOXCh6O4LL1rXj7bLvpw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCDqxr-mST3pwE1zounK5KXeXhwOXCh6O4LL1rXj7bLvpw@mail.gmail.com>
 <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
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December 10, 2020 9:35 PM, "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com (mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com?to=%22Bruce%20Steers%22%20<bsteers4 at gmail.com>)> wrote:
  what do you think of this Ben? https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/message-cancel-zero (https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/message-cancel-zero)   It adds a Property/Option CancelIsZero to Message class and forces right hand buttons (and closing window) to always be zero if set to True.  
It does not particularly address the issue but does make sense for cancel to always return zero in some cases. 
(I couldn't see how to disable the windows close button but if there is a way maybe an option to do that would be cool?)  
There have been several mentions in this thread of "right hand buttons", but some toolkits actually invert the order of the buttons, don't they? As in left is Cancel and right is Ok, instead of the more typical ordering?

Also, FWIW and IMHO, I always prefer to have the option to disable the window close button programmatically.

Regards,
Joe1962
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 07:24:16 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 06:24:16 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <de92eace951f8a55e59027c817bca18b@cenpalab.cu>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
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Pretty sure Gambas does not rearrange the order, Buttons are left to right
as entered on QT and gtk.
I just tried this...
*Message.Custom("test message", ["But 1", "But 2", "But 3", "But 4", "But
5", "But 6"])*
And all 6 buttons were in the correct order on all GUI toolkits i tried ,
gtk,gtk3 qnd QT5

Alas i do not know how to disable/hide a windows close button or i would
have submitted that change.


On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 06:11, <jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu> wrote:

> December 10, 2020 9:35 PM, "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com
> <bsteers4 at gmail.com?to=%22Bruce%20Steers%22%20%3Cbsteers4 at gmail.com%3E>>
> wrote:
>
> what do you think of this Ben?
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/message-cancel-zero
> It adds a Property/Option CancelIsZero to Message class and forces right
> hand buttons (and closing window) to always be zero if set to True.
> It does not particularly address the issue but does make sense for cancel
> to always return zero in some cases.
> (I couldn't see how to disable the windows close button but if there is a
> way maybe an option to do that would be cool?)
>
>
>
>
> There have been several mentions in this thread of "right hand buttons",
> but some toolkits actually invert the order of the buttons, don't they? As
> in left is Cancel and right is Ok, instead of the more typical ordering?
>
> Also, FWIW and IMHO, I always prefer to have the option to disable the
> window close button programmatically.
>
> Regards,
> Joe1962
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu  Fri Dec 11 07:59:07 2020
From: jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu (jose.rodriguez at cenpalab.cu)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 06:59:07 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCD0e4u3wSo1_hvYOVYDRZw640a754qns9ry3Deqwmwh0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCD0e4u3wSo1_hvYOVYDRZw640a754qns9ry3Deqwmwh0Q@mail.gmail.com>
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December 11, 2020 1:25 AM, "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com (mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com?to=%22Bruce%20Steers%22%20<bsteers4 at gmail.com>)> wrote:
  Pretty sure Gambas does not rearrange the order, Buttons are left to right as entered on QT and gtk. I just tried this... Message.Custom("test message", ["But 1", "But 2", "But 3", "But 4", "But 5", "But 6"]) And all 6 buttons were in the correct order on all GUI toolkits i tried , gtk,gtk3 qnd QT5  
Sorry, I meant the default dialogs, like Ok, Cancel stuff. I suppose following the desktop environment guidelines is the "proper" way to go , but the Cancel, Ok ordering on the Plasma I am using right now is confusing. I vaguely remember gnome used to do that a long time ago, haven't used it for a quite while. Anyway, I haven't really been programming in Gambas for a long time now, though I have been recently setting things up to try and update some of my apps (from way back in my VectorLinux days) to newer Gambas 3 (just so little free time right now...).

Regards,
Joe1962
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 16:54:48 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 16:54:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYka1vOS1b-nV+zpp6hnc5ZNHMsW7fNapL=+W6FnHstpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
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Le 10/12/2020 ? 19:59, Gianluigi a ?crit?:
> 
> With regards to standard message boxes, I'd leave things as they are, 
> including the close (X) button.
> In Gambas it is very easy to create our new message box...
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 

Yes. Guys, do not be hysterical about messages boxes!

Message boxes aim to be simple, and I want them to keep being simple. So 
if you need anything more complex, implement your own.

I will just do what I told before, prevent the dialog box from closing 
without explicitly clicking on a button.

I know that this is not necessarily welcome, but as the program normally 
wants an non-ambiguous answer, it can be justified. I will put the focus 
on the default button too.

So, pardon me Bruce, but I don't think I will merge your proposal.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 17:12:58 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 17:12:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gitlab runner, the older ubuntus are failing.
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCABgGW9UF-h-Mmob2qBQ9=BBff4XjMTmsbwB4onPCxcEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCABgGW9UF-h-Mmob2qBQ9=BBff4XjMTmsbwB4onPCxcEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7c741298-4dec-1a0f-5edb-0d08fe3a5cc5@gmail.com>

Le 11/12/2020 ? 04:24, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> gitlab runner is having Ubuntu issues..
> 
> ubuntu eoan seems to have bad urls for repository or something as it 
> cannot connect and download/install much.
> It fails saying libtoolize and autoreconf not found.
> 
> Trusty and Xenial are both failing trying to compile gtk3 sm/gnome-client.c
> 
> ubuntu-latest and all the others OS's are fine.
> 
> ||
> BruceS
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Yes, I must look at it...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 17:15:03 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 17:15:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] embedding url on wiki
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCC2RwmQRqFUR9i3v2c2AiEceu9YGrGL4Rmum92uceZkHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCC2RwmQRqFUR9i3v2c2AiEceu9YGrGL4Rmum92uceZkHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a0a7d814-0d16-665d-8725-bcfb06bc6146@gmail.com>

Le 08/12/2020 ? 20:24, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> Hi all.
> I've made a simple php script that shows the dependencies/commands 
> needed to compile gambas on your distro.
> 
> It reads the online giitlab-ci.yml file from gambas/gambas.
> http://bws.org.uk/gambasdeps.php
> 
> Just click your distro and copy the text , shimples.
> 
> 
> Is there any way to embed the code into the wiki ?
> i would adapt it to suit of course.
> the above link is just the initial write.
> I've attached the file anyway for anyone to use/adapt
> 
> BruceS
> 
> 

Funny, as I exactly did the same thing at the same time inside the wiki!

But in Gambas, as the wiki is written in Gambas. There is no php on its 
server.

See: https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install.

I haven't committed the code yet.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 17:49:28 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 17:49:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <65d87156-d95e-b7a6-84d7-e4167913d550@gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
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Il giorno ven 11 dic 2020 alle ore 16:55 Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

>
> Yes. Guys, do not be hysterical about messages boxes!
>
> Message boxes aim to be simple, and I want them to keep being simple. So
> if you need anything more complex, implement your own.
>
> I will just do what I told before, prevent the dialog box from closing
> without explicitly clicking on a button.
>
> I know that this is not necessarily welcome, but as the program normally
> wants an non-ambiguous answer, it can be justified. I will put the focus
> on the default button too.
>
> So, pardon me Bruce, but I don't think I will merge your proposal.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>

To me, especially in the early days that I used the computer, it often
happened that I did not understand what I was asked, in those cases I acted
on the X which for me means "I refrain from making a decision at this
moment".

Instead of excluding the X, why don't you give the possibility to put the
focus where you want? So programmers who want a dry and immediate answer
can leave the NO as the last button.

I don't know if it's hysteria but I love the X's in the windows :-)

Regards
Gianluigi

P.S. Speaking of focus, now that on buttons it works with GTK in Ubuntu it
has stopped working with QT (fusion theme)
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 18:02:13 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 17:02:13 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
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> Yes. Guys, do not be hysterical about messages boxes!

>
> Message boxes aim to be simple, and I want them to keep being simple. So
> if you need anything more complex, implement your own.
>
> I will just do what I told before, prevent the dialog box from closing
> without explicitly clicking on a button.
>
> I know that this is not necessarily welcome, but as the program normally
> wants an non-ambiguous answer, it can be justified. I will put the focus
> on the default button too.
>
> So, pardon me Bruce, but I don't think I will merge your proposal.
>
> Regards,
>

Tis all good my friend.
And you're right of course, it simple to just make our own custom message
boxes if we need to.
Be well
BruceS
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From mckaygerhard at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 18:15:52 2020
From: mckaygerhard at gmail.com (PICCORO McKAY Lenz)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:15:52 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] which is the most close to file_get_contents ?
Message-ID: <CALci+FToR1hNgx=NRj7k=thZgpS_f+HVXJFkwBLCvFLYtMa7vA@mail.gmail.com>

in php we have too many generic helpers, functions etc.. so maybe php
programers are very lazy.. but php have those easy touse things like
https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.file-get-contents.php

it does not care if are a file or url.. just use it and get json output..

is there something similar in gambas? for both desktop or web?

Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 18:22:39 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 17:22:39 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] embedding url on wiki
In-Reply-To: <a0a7d814-0d16-665d-8725-bcfb06bc6146@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCC2RwmQRqFUR9i3v2c2AiEceu9YGrGL4Rmum92uceZkHQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Brilliant , exactly what i was thinking about , seemed silly to have to
keep updating the wiki when the information needed is there in the ci file.
(great minds think alike eh? ;) )

That'll certainly help some people i think.
May i be cheeky and suggest an edit?
If you removed the prefix '$ ' from each line it will make it easier to
simply copy and paste into a terminal.
(and comes should be come) :)

Awesome stuff though Ben , I think anything we can do to help ease the
upgrading to the latest Gambas is a must/priority.
It would sure solve all my backward compatibility issues. Rather than
trying to get gambas backward compatible making forward compatibility for
the users to easily upgrade is a better way.

BruceS


On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 16:16, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 08/12/2020 ? 20:24, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > Hi all.
> > I've made a simple php script that shows the dependencies/commands
> > needed to compile gambas on your distro.
> >
> > It reads the online giitlab-ci.yml file from gambas/gambas.
> > http://bws.org.uk/gambasdeps.php
> >
> > Just click your distro and copy the text , shimples.
> >
> >
> > Is there any way to embed the code into the wiki ?
> > i would adapt it to suit of course.
> > the above link is just the initial write.
> > I've attached the file anyway for anyone to use/adapt
> >
> > BruceS
> >
> >
>
> Funny, as I exactly did the same thing at the same time inside the wiki!
>
> But in Gambas, as the wiki is written in Gambas. There is no php on its
> server.
>
> See: https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install.
>
> I haven't committed the code yet.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 19:34:27 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 18:34:27 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCASr_qJkcGJ-fqU4FcZhL+6k3q2FPMyR-4TP6WF5j9AEA@mail.gmail.com>
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> I will just do what I told before, prevent the dialog box from closing
>> without explicitly clicking on a button.
>>
>> I know that this is not necessarily welcome, but as the program normally
>> wants an non-ambiguous answer, it can be justified. I will put the focus
>> on the default button too.
>
>
Could it be a settable parameter like my *Message.CancelIsZero = True* flag?
Something like *Message.NoWindowClose = True*  to enable it?
then desired or undesired we have the choice :)
BruceS
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From claus.dietrich at freenet.de  Fri Dec 11 22:37:59 2020
From: claus.dietrich at freenet.de (Claus Dietrich)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 22:37:59 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Custom Controls - Property as Constant List
In-Reply-To: <0e7f7d84-2821-4eed-0f39-b85c2000c1fc@t-online.de>
References: <0e7f7d84-2821-4eed-0f39-b85c2000c1fc@t-online.de>
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Hi

I recently wrote a number of custom user controls (visible in the IDE)
and bumbed into the problem, that I couldn't make the IDE to offer a
list of declared constants (here "StyleStrokes" and "StyleScale") under
a custom control property (here "Style").

As I didn't clearly understand the chapter "/Constant lists/" in the
wiki, my temporary solution consists of a range definition
(Style{Range:1;2}=1).

Name of my Custom Control Class: Knob

Export
....
Public Const StyleStrokes As Integer = 1
Public Const StyleScale As Integer = 2
...
Public Const _Properties As String = "*,....,Style{Range:1;2}=1"

Any attempt failed to get a combo with said constants and I particularly
didn't know how to read the sentence in the wiki saying "..... you can
specify a class instead ....". What you mean by "can" and does it have
to be a separate class? Any detail for the required syntax and
instructions beyond the wiki would be much appreciated.

Best regards

Claus

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 23:08:04 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 23:08:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Custom Controls - Property as Constant List
In-Reply-To: <041cd141-c34a-c7ae-fbfe-1042fd2acbf4@freenet.de>
References: <0e7f7d84-2821-4eed-0f39-b85c2000c1fc@t-online.de>
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Il giorno ven 11 dic 2020 alle ore 22:39 Claus Dietrich <
claus.dietrich at freenet.de> ha scritto:

> Hi
>
> I recently wrote a number of custom user controls (visible in the IDE) and
> bumbed into the problem, that I couldn't make the IDE to offer a list of
> declared constants (here "StyleStrokes" and "StyleScale") under a custom
> control property (here "Style").
>
> As I didn't clearly understand the chapter "*Constant lists*" in the
> wiki, my temporary solution consists of a range definition
> (Style{Range:1;2}=1).
>
> Name of my Custom Control Class: Knob
> Export
> ....
> Public Const StyleStrokes As Integer = 1
> Public Const StyleScale As Integer = 2
> ...
> Public Const _Properties As String = "*,....,Style{Range:1;2}=1"
>
> Any attempt failed to get a combo with said constants and I particularly
> didn't know how to read the sentence in the wiki saying "..... you can
> specify a class instead ....". What you mean by "can" and does it have to
> be a separate class? Any detail for the required syntax and instructions
> beyond the wiki would be much appreciated.
> Best regards
>
> Claus
>

Hello,

You can check out this thread:
https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2020-September/070075.html

Regards & Good Night
Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sat Dec 12 02:48:28 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 02:48:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <65d87156-d95e-b7a6-84d7-e4167913d550@gmail.com>
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Am 11.12.20 um 16:54 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> Yes. Guys, do not be hysterical about messages boxes!
> 
> Message boxes aim to be simple, and I want them to keep being simple. So 
> if you need anything more complex, implement your own.
> 
> I will just do what I told before, prevent the dialog box from closing 
> without explicitly clicking on a button.

Instead of clicking on a button i very often hit ESC as this also
triggers 'Cancel' which in my programs is the last button in message
boxes when there is the need to cancel.

I would prefer not to have to use the mouse for that. We even have
computers with Gambas programs where the mouse is never used.

Also I am with Gianluigi who loves the "X".

And btw: This bug regarding message boxes is reported to be fixed, but I
didn't test it and now it seems that it is not:

http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.1807&from=L21haW4-

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
Dies ist keine Signatur

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 03:59:04 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 02:59:04 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
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How's about something simple like this in FMessage.class?



*Public Sub txtMessage_DblClick()  Clipboard.Copy(txtMessage.*




*Text)  txtMessage.Text = ("Text Coppied.")  Wait 1  txtMessage.Text =
Clipboard.Paste()End*



On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 01:49, Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de>
wrote:

> Am 11.12.20 um 16:54 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>
> > Yes. Guys, do not be hysterical about messages boxes!
> >
> > Message boxes aim to be simple, and I want them to keep being simple. So
> > if you need anything more complex, implement your own.
> >
> > I will just do what I told before, prevent the dialog box from closing
> > without explicitly clicking on a button.
>
> Instead of clicking on a button i very often hit ESC as this also
> triggers 'Cancel' which in my programs is the last button in message
> boxes when there is the need to cancel.
>
> I would prefer not to have to use the mouse for that. We even have
> computers with Gambas programs where the mouse is never used.
>
> Also I am with Gianluigi who loves the "X".
>
> And btw: This bug regarding message boxes is reported to be fixed, but I
> didn't test it and now it seems that it is not:
>
> http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.1807&from=L21haW4-
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 04:42:06 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 03:42:06 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <65d87156-d95e-b7a6-84d7-e4167913d550@gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
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I'm not sure you need to do anything now Ben.
Tony added some nice info to the wiki so It's much clearer now that the
Right button is always cancel and returns the same as closing the window,
:)

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 15:55, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 10/12/2020 ? 19:59, Gianluigi a ?crit :
> >
> > With regards to standard message boxes, I'd leave things as they are,
> > including the close (X) button.
> > In Gambas it is very easy to create our new message box...
> >
> > Regards
> > Gianluigi
> >
>
> Yes. Guys, do not be hysterical about messages boxes!
>
> Message boxes aim to be simple, and I want them to keep being simple. So
> if you need anything more complex, implement your own.
>
> I will just do what I told before, prevent the dialog box from closing
> without explicitly clicking on a button.
>
> I know that this is not necessarily welcome, but as the program normally
> wants an non-ambiguous answer, it can be justified. I will put the focus
> on the default button too.
>
> So, pardon me Bruce, but I don't think I will merge your proposal.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 14:44:27 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 13:44:27 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] embedding url on wiki
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCh5NTXOz5efHmjH-PbpMx_Ro7xNFbxB3SvpxywKrQPQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCC2RwmQRqFUR9i3v2c2AiEceu9YGrGL4Rmum92uceZkHQ@mail.gmail.com>
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May i be cheeky and suggest an edit?
> If you removed the prefix '$ ' from each line it will make it easier to
> simply copy and paste into a terminal.
>

Darn it, I apologise Ben, I have just today found that the $ is
"conventional" , $ used to denote running as normal user and # denotes run
as root. This i did not know till about an hour ago :-\
I much prefer to be able to copy-n-paste the text but I know you like to be
conventional so I retract the request and leave it up to you.

I have modified the Fedora page to include the new function for
fedora-latest.
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/fedora#t14

I had to rearrange things a bit though (like the install dependency list
was before the download source instruction so the ./reconf-all and
./configure commands were out of place) but i just moved the download
source info to before the install packages function.

What would make filling in the independent pages with the info easier would
be if there was a way to retrieve the dependency list with one function and
get the ./configure line with another.
But i don't want to trouble you so I can work around it if you're happy
with how it is.

All the best
BruceS.


Funny, as I exactly did the same thing at the same time inside the wiki!
>>
>> But in Gambas, as the wiki is written in Gambas. There is no php on its
>> server.
>>
>> See: https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install.
>>
>> I haven't committed the code yet.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
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From claus.dietrich at freenet.de  Sat Dec 12 15:12:20 2020
From: claus.dietrich at freenet.de (Claus Dietrich)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 15:12:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Custom Controls - Property as Constant List
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYvAEss+8ppjF+xx0yUi-n=F7RgNgkt=mwWUfV8st-R9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0e7f7d84-2821-4eed-0f39-b85c2000c1fc@t-online.de>
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Hi Gianluigi

Many thanks, but there seems to be a misunderstanding. My subject is
about the general basics of self-made IDE custom controls and how a list
of constants can be used to determine one of its properties in the IDE
property-list.

Meanwhile I managed to get things work with a trial-and-error approach
but it is not what I am looking for:?

'Gambas class file "Knob"
Export
....
Public Const StyleStrokes As Integer = 1
Public Const StyleScale As Integer = 2
...
Public Const _Properties As String = "*,....,*Style{Knob.*}=StyleStrokes" *

With this the property "Style" offers both constants (StyleStrokes and
StyleScale) in a combo for selection. I have no idea how Gambas figures
out the right list items with this method and doesn't grab other
constants defined in the class. This somehow contradicts with the wiki
(https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/dev/gambas) and I still don't know how to
specify _individual constants_.

Have a good weekend.

Claus


Am 11.12.20 um 23:08 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
>
> Il giorno ven 11 dic 2020 alle ore 22:39 Claus Dietrich
> <claus.dietrich at freenet.de <mailto:claus.dietrich at freenet.de>> ha scritto:
>
>     Hi
>
>     I recently wrote a number of custom user controls (visible in the
>     IDE) and bumbed into the problem, that I couldn't make the IDE to
>     offer a list of declared constants (here "StyleStrokes" and
>     "StyleScale") under a custom control property (here "Style").
>
>     As I didn't clearly understand the chapter "/Constant lists/" in
>     the wiki, my temporary solution consists of a range definition
>     (Style{Range:1;2}=1).
>
>     Name of my Custom Control Class: Knob
>
>     Export
>     ....
>     Public Const StyleStrokes As Integer = 1
>     Public Const StyleScale As Integer = 2
>     ...
>     Public Const _Properties As String = "*,....,Style{Range:1;2}=1"
>
>     Any attempt failed to get a combo with said constants and I
>     particularly didn't know how to read the sentence in the wiki
>     saying "..... you can specify a class instead ....". What you mean
>     by "can" and does it have to be a separate class? Any detail for
>     the required syntax and instructions beyond the wiki would be much
>     appreciated.
>
>     Best regards
>
>     Claus
>
>
> Hello,
>
> You can check out this thread:
> https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2020-September/070075.html
>
> Regards & Good Night
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 15:19:50 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 15:19:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Custom Controls - Property as Constant List
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Le 12/12/2020 ? 15:12, Claus Dietrich a ?crit?:
> Hi Gianluigi
> 
> Many thanks, but there seems to be a misunderstanding. My subject is 
> about the general basics of self-made IDE custom controls and how a list 
> of constants can be used to determine one of its properties in the IDE 
> property-list.
> 
> Meanwhile I managed to get things work with a trial-and-error approach 
> but it is not what I am looking for:
> 
> 'Gambas class file "Knob"
> Export
> ....
> Public Const StyleStrokes As Integer = 1
> Public Const StyleScale As Integer = 2
> ...
> Public Const _Properties As String = "*,....,*Style{Knob.*}=StyleStrokes" *
> 
> With this the property "Style" offers both constants (StyleStrokes and 
> StyleScale) in a combo for selection. I have no idea how Gambas figures 
> out the right list items with this method and doesn't grab other 
> constants defined in the class. This somehow contradicts with the wiki 
> (https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/dev/gambas) and I still don't know how to 
> specify _individual constants_.

'{Knob.*}' gets all the -public- constants of the classes. Every private 
symbol disappears at runtime (except in debugging information for the 
debugger), only public symbols remain in the executable.

To get constants explictly, use '{Knob.Constant1;Constant2;...}'

You can look at the Gambas source code of the GUI controls to get some 
examples.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 15:39:32 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 15:39:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Custom Controls - Property as Constant List
In-Reply-To: <82860359-8e7e-8793-4241-9bef0bf94868@freenet.de>
References: <0e7f7d84-2821-4eed-0f39-b85c2000c1fc@t-online.de>
 <041cd141-c34a-c7ae-fbfe-1042fd2acbf4@freenet.de>
 <CAJ2rqFYvAEss+8ppjF+xx0yUi-n=F7RgNgkt=mwWUfV8st-R9Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Il giorno sab 12 dic 2020 alle ore 15:13 Claus Dietrich <
claus.dietrich at freenet.de> ha scritto:

> Hi Gianluigi
>
> Many thanks, but there seems to be a misunderstanding.
>
> ...
>
> Claus
>

I don't understand, but have you looked at the ComboRowsSeparator-3 code?
Didn't he answer your first question?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From claus.dietrich at freenet.de  Sat Dec 12 16:02:38 2020
From: claus.dietrich at freenet.de (Claus Dietrich)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 16:02:38 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Custom Controls - Property as Constant List
In-Reply-To: <d74221d0-4bfe-2c3b-0298-802cf3f994ca@gmail.com>
References: <0e7f7d84-2821-4eed-0f39-b85c2000c1fc@t-online.de>
 <041cd141-c34a-c7ae-fbfe-1042fd2acbf4@freenet.de>
 <CAJ2rqFYvAEss+8ppjF+xx0yUi-n=F7RgNgkt=mwWUfV8st-R9Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <82860359-8e7e-8793-4241-9bef0bf94868@freenet.de>
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Message-ID: <beec55a5-5e12-47f0-a930-8ba7d4cd1f91@freenet.de>

That's it - works perfect and many thanks for the valuable background on
private and public constants!

Regards, Claus


Am 12.12.20 um 15:19 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 12/12/2020 ? 15:12, Claus Dietrich a ?crit?:
>> Hi Gianluigi
>>
>> Many thanks, but there seems to be a misunderstanding. My subject is
>> about the general basics of self-made IDE custom controls and how a
>> list of constants can be used to determine one of its properties in
>> the IDE property-list.
>>
>> Meanwhile I managed to get things work with a trial-and-error
>> approach but it is not what I am looking for:
>>
>> 'Gambas class file "Knob"
>> Export
>> ....
>> Public Const StyleStrokes As Integer = 1
>> Public Const StyleScale As Integer = 2
>> ...
>> Public Const _Properties As String =
>> "*,....,*Style{Knob.*}=StyleStrokes" *
>>
>> With this the property "Style" offers both constants (StyleStrokes
>> and StyleScale) in a combo for selection. I have no idea how Gambas
>> figures out the right list items with this method and doesn't grab
>> other constants defined in the class. This somehow contradicts with
>> the wiki (https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/dev/gambas) and I still don't
>> know how to specify _individual constants_.
>
> '{Knob.*}' gets all the -public- constants of the classes. Every
> private symbol disappears at runtime (except in debugging information
> for the debugger), only public symbols remain in the executable.
>
> To get constants explictly, use '{Knob.Constant1;Constant2;...}'
>
> You can look at the Gambas source code of the GUI controls to get some
> examples.
>
> Regards,
>

From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Sat Dec 12 16:16:19 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 10:16:19 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Program not starting
In-Reply-To: <4ad96c6b-8285-858d-8749-159d95c67361@ajmconsulting.ca>
References: <4ad96c6b-8285-858d-8749-159d95c67361@ajmconsulting.ca>
Message-ID: <999efd24-c323-9a76-8e12-79cf93da24ca@ajm-software.com>

Just a warning, hopefully a helpful one.

Since commit d4a0982a, one of my programs refused to start. The startup 
form would begin, run some initialization code, then exit with error 
code 1.? There were no error messages, nothing to indicate what the 
problem was.? Stepping through the program was not helpful.? All it 
showed was that the exit occurred between one sub-routine and the next.

Several days of debugging my program and recompiling Gambas to identify 
the exact change followed.? I finally started to recreate the startup 
form.? The new form ran!? Looking at the differences between the two 
forms revealed my error and it certainly was _*my*_? error.? The visible 
property of the original form was set to false!

How that happened I have no idea.? Most likely I was trying to change 
the visibility of a control on the form, but selected the form by mistake.

Cheers

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 16:27:57 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 16:27:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Program not starting
In-Reply-To: <999efd24-c323-9a76-8e12-79cf93da24ca@ajm-software.com>
References: <4ad96c6b-8285-858d-8749-159d95c67361@ajmconsulting.ca>
 <999efd24-c323-9a76-8e12-79cf93da24ca@ajm-software.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYiqfC7GCb+ejP4C+pFzYp011ZypQfN9CUN_KXWXz8GEA@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno sab 12 dic 2020 alle ore 16:17 Tony Morehen <
tmorehen at ajm-software.com> ha scritto:

> Just a warning, hopefully a helpful one.
> ...
>
> Most likely I was trying to change the visibility of a control on the
> form, but selected the form by mistake.
>
> Cheers
>

This thing has already happened to me many times, I am a chronic
distracted, I never said it out of shame ;-D

Regards
Gianluigi
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From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Sat Dec 12 16:39:45 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 10:39:45 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Program not starting
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYiqfC7GCb+ejP4C+pFzYp011ZypQfN9CUN_KXWXz8GEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ad96c6b-8285-858d-8749-159d95c67361@ajmconsulting.ca>
 <999efd24-c323-9a76-8e12-79cf93da24ca@ajm-software.com>
 <CAJ2rqFYiqfC7GCb+ejP4C+pFzYp011ZypQfN9CUN_KXWXz8GEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6b29ccde-9a82-7e49-374c-8cb5b517062c@ajm-software.com>

I find it's often a work flow issue.? A control is normally invisible on 
startup. To debug it, you select it, change its visible property to 
true.? Fix it. Run the program to test.? Then change to visible property 
back to false, not noticing that the selection has changed from the 
control to the form.

I was just hoping to save someone some frustration as this was a tough 
one to debug, as there were no messages, error or otherwise, just a 
careless mistake causing my program to exit unexpectedly.

On 2020-12-12 10:27 a.m., Gianluigi wrote:
>
>
> Il giorno sab 12 dic 2020 alle ore 16:17 Tony Morehen 
> <tmorehen at ajm-software.com <mailto:tmorehen at ajm-software.com>> ha scritto:
>
>     Just a warning, hopefully a helpful one.
>     ...
>
>     Most likely I was trying to change the visibility of a control on
>     the form, but selected the form by mistake.
>
>     Cheers
>
>
> This thing has already happened to me many times, I am a chronic 
> distracted, I never said it out of shame ;-D
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
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From claus.dietrich at freenet.de  Sat Dec 12 16:39:51 2020
From: claus.dietrich at freenet.de (Claus Dietrich)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 16:39:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas Custom Controls - Property as Constant List
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYfrQThdvYSVQpyCHZvONCeX-=fY_+W0REcLiDQzqCoSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0e7f7d84-2821-4eed-0f39-b85c2000c1fc@t-online.de>
 <041cd141-c34a-c7ae-fbfe-1042fd2acbf4@freenet.de>
 <CAJ2rqFYvAEss+8ppjF+xx0yUi-n=F7RgNgkt=mwWUfV8st-R9Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <82860359-8e7e-8793-4241-9bef0bf94868@freenet.de>
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Message-ID: <96a82cc3-4a23-71b7-57fd-45e9f0285ddb@freenet.de>

You may have seen, that Beno?t provided the answer I needed. However,
the combo class with row separators was surprising and looks useful. So
I put it into my collection.

Thanks

Claus


Am 12.12.20 um 15:39 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
>
> Il giorno sab 12 dic 2020 alle ore 15:13 Claus Dietrich
> <claus.dietrich at freenet.de <mailto:claus.dietrich at freenet.de>> ha scritto:
>
>     Hi Gianluigi
>
>     Many thanks, but there seems to be a misunderstanding.?
>
>     ...
>
>     Claus
>
>
> I don't understand, but have you looked at the ComboRowsSeparator-3
> code? Didn't he answer your first question?
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 16:58:42 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 16:58:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Program not starting
In-Reply-To: <999efd24-c323-9a76-8e12-79cf93da24ca@ajm-software.com>
References: <4ad96c6b-8285-858d-8749-159d95c67361@ajmconsulting.ca>
 <999efd24-c323-9a76-8e12-79cf93da24ca@ajm-software.com>
Message-ID: <2310357e-74dd-4263-81be-e7d521f5a823@gmail.com>

Le 12/12/2020 ? 16:16, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
> Just a warning, hopefully a helpful one.
> 
> Since commit d4a0982a, one of my programs refused to start. The startup 
> form would begin, run some initialization code, then exit with error 
> code 1.? There were no error messages, nothing to indicate what the 
> problem was.? Stepping through the program was not helpful.? All it 
> showed was that the exit occurred between one sub-routine and the next.
> 
> Several days of debugging my program and recompiling Gambas to identify 
> the exact change followed.? I finally started to recreate the startup 
> form.? The new form ran!? Looking at the differences between the two 
> forms revealed my error and it certainly was _*my*_? error.? The visible 
> property of the original form was set to false!
> 
> How that happened I have no idea.? Most likely I was trying to change 
> the visibility of a control on the form, but selected the form by mistake.
> 
> Cheers
> 

Do you read the commit logs?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 17:41:18 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 17:41:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug with IsDate
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7Tj4B3HSDzM9uDFSRx5BApEyu-8=vUFEOpkR24FibRpRA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFJMe7Tj4B3HSDzM9uDFSRx5BApEyu-8=vUFEOpkR24FibRpRA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6f435243-3f50-f70a-fa5d-5f098c56cf8b@gmail.com>

Le 08/12/2020 ? 19:13, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit?:
> Currently in dev version IsDate does not understand the localization:
> ? IsDate(Str(Now))
> False
> 
> $ locale
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> LANGUAGE=en_US
> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_NUMERIC=fi_FI.UTF-8
> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.UTF-8
> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_PAPER=fi_FI.UTF-8
> LC_NAME=fi_FI.UTF-8
> LC_ADDRESS=fi_FI.UTF-8
> LC_TELEPHONE=fi_FI.UTF-8
> LC_MEASUREMENT=fi_FI.UTF-8
> LC_IDENTIFICATION=fi_FI.UTF-8
> LC_ALL=
> 
> 
> Jussi
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

It should be fixed in commit 
https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/93659c3f7eab356b922d5be161990bf888fb3fd8.

Now Str() on dates returns something that Val() and IsDate() can understand.

A function that could be named "Date.FromString()" should be made for 
understanding any local date in any format. Val() and IsDate() cannot be 
made clever enough for that, too complex!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Sat Dec 12 17:44:05 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 11:44:05 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Program not starting
In-Reply-To: <2310357e-74dd-4263-81be-e7d521f5a823@gmail.com>
References: <4ad96c6b-8285-858d-8749-159d95c67361@ajmconsulting.ca>
 <999efd24-c323-9a76-8e12-79cf93da24ca@ajm-software.com>
 <2310357e-74dd-4263-81be-e7d521f5a823@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f01a2552-7115-7655-c288-76a2b89cd47d@ajm-software.com>

Yes I read the commit logs and I studied the exact changes each commit 
made.? Unfortunately, I didn't notice the problem until several commits 
later.? It took a while to identify the particular commit.

I never thought to check my startup form.? It's visible property should 
have been set to true.? Unfortunately, I got sidetracked. That form 
contains several custom controls, versions of DirView and FileChooser, 
some of which are hidden.? Since those controls are form-based and the 
program exited after initializing those controls, I thought my problem 
was there.

My startup form is quite complicated and I've had forms get corrupted in 
the past.? So, I decided to recreate the form, one part at a time.? The 
form had three major components, the menu, toolbar and body.? I copied 
the body and code over to the new form and edited the code to account 
for the missing objects.? The new form opened successfully.? Copied the 
toolbar over and re-edited the code for the new objects.? Again a 
successful open.? Now to copy the menu over.? I decided to do that with 
a text editor.? I opened the two form files to copy over the 
menu-related lines and then noticed that the original form has its 
visible property set to false.? A light goes on!

Sometimes we overlook the obvious.? I assumed I screwed up in my 
customization of DirView and FileChooser controls that your commit was 
only now revealing.? Instead it was another, simpler error on my part, a 
very careless error.

On 2020-12-12 10:58 a.m., Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 12/12/2020 ? 16:16, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
>> Just a warning, hopefully a helpful one.
>>
>> Since commit d4a0982a, one of my programs refused to start. The 
>> startup form would begin, run some initialization code, then exit 
>> with error code 1.? There were no error messages, nothing to indicate 
>> what the problem was.? Stepping through the program was not helpful.? 
>> All it showed was that the exit occurred between one sub-routine and 
>> the next.
>>
>> Several days of debugging my program and recompiling Gambas to 
>> identify the exact change followed.? I finally started to recreate 
>> the startup form.? The new form ran!? Looking at the differences 
>> between the two forms revealed my error and it certainly was _*my*_? 
>> error.? The visible property of the original form was set to false!
>>
>> How that happened I have no idea.? Most likely I was trying to change 
>> the visibility of a control on the form, but selected the form by 
>> mistake.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>
> Do you read the commit logs?
>

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 17:48:33 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 17:48:33 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Program not starting
In-Reply-To: <f01a2552-7115-7655-c288-76a2b89cd47d@ajm-software.com>
References: <4ad96c6b-8285-858d-8749-159d95c67361@ajmconsulting.ca>
 <999efd24-c323-9a76-8e12-79cf93da24ca@ajm-software.com>
 <2310357e-74dd-4263-81be-e7d521f5a823@gmail.com>
 <f01a2552-7115-7655-c288-76a2b89cd47d@ajm-software.com>
Message-ID: <488002b1-123f-1bb2-2bb7-5d7345c76061@gmail.com>

Le 12/12/2020 ? 17:44, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
> Yes I read the commit logs and I studied the exact changes each commit 
> made.? Unfortunately, I didn't notice the problem until several commits 
> later.? It took a while to identify the particular commit.
> 
> I never thought to check my startup form.? It's visible property should 
> have been set to true.? Unfortunately, I got sidetracked. That form 
> contains several custom controls, versions of DirView and FileChooser, 
> some of which are hidden.? Since those controls are form-based and the 
> program exited after initializing those controls, I thought my problem 
> was there.
> 
> My startup form is quite complicated and I've had forms get corrupted in 
> the past.? So, I decided to recreate the form, one part at a time.? The 
> form had three major components, the menu, toolbar and body.? I copied 
> the body and code over to the new form and edited the code to account 
> for the missing objects.? The new form opened successfully.? Copied the 
> toolbar over and re-edited the code for the new objects.? Again a 
> successful open.? Now to copy the menu over.? I decided to do that with 
> a text editor.? I opened the two form files to copy over the 
> menu-related lines and then noticed that the original form has its 
> visible property set to false.? A light goes on!
> 
> Sometimes we overlook the obvious.? I assumed I screwed up in my 
> customization of DirView and FileChooser controls that your commit was 
> only now revealing.? Instead it was another, simpler error on my part, a 
> very careless error.
> 

Maybe if the form visible property is set to FALSE, I should show that 
with some special icon in the form editor, or in the form icon itself? 
No idea what exactly, this is just an idea.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Sat Dec 12 19:51:13 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 13:51:13 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Program not starting
In-Reply-To: <488002b1-123f-1bb2-2bb7-5d7345c76061@gmail.com>
References: <4ad96c6b-8285-858d-8749-159d95c67361@ajmconsulting.ca>
 <999efd24-c323-9a76-8e12-79cf93da24ca@ajm-software.com>
 <2310357e-74dd-4263-81be-e7d521f5a823@gmail.com>
 <f01a2552-7115-7655-c288-76a2b89cd47d@ajm-software.com>
 <488002b1-123f-1bb2-2bb7-5d7345c76061@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3f394d4b-41ac-7038-b6dc-942be412e128@ajm-software.com>

First, the current behaviour is what I expected. If I want a program to 
start hidden, I use a main.module, form.load approach.

Perhaps all this needs is a debug message:? "Warning: The Visible 
property of the startup form of this project is set to False. This could 
result in undefined behavior."

On 2020-12-12 11:48 a.m., Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 12/12/2020 ? 17:44, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
>> Yes I read the commit logs and I studied the exact changes each 
>> commit made.? Unfortunately, I didn't notice the problem until 
>> several commits later.? It took a while to identify the particular 
>> commit.
>>
>> I never thought to check my startup form.? It's visible property 
>> should have been set to true.? Unfortunately, I got sidetracked. That 
>> form contains several custom controls, versions of DirView and 
>> FileChooser, some of which are hidden.? Since those controls are 
>> form-based and the program exited after initializing those controls, 
>> I thought my problem was there.
>>
>> My startup form is quite complicated and I've had forms get corrupted 
>> in the past.? So, I decided to recreate the form, one part at a 
>> time.? The form had three major components, the menu, toolbar and 
>> body.? I copied the body and code over to the new form and edited the 
>> code to account for the missing objects. The new form opened 
>> successfully.? Copied the toolbar over and re-edited the code for the 
>> new objects.? Again a successful open.? Now to copy the menu over.? I 
>> decided to do that with a text editor.? I opened the two form files 
>> to copy over the menu-related lines and then noticed that the 
>> original form has its visible property set to false.? A light goes on!
>>
>> Sometimes we overlook the obvious.? I assumed I screwed up in my 
>> customization of DirView and FileChooser controls that your commit 
>> was only now revealing.? Instead it was another, simpler error on my 
>> part, a very careless error.
>>
>
> Maybe if the form visible property is set to FALSE, I should show that 
> with some special icon in the form editor, or in the form icon itself? 
> No idea what exactly, this is just an idea.
>
> Regards,
>

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 20:13:17 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 20:13:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] which is the most close to file_get_contents ?
In-Reply-To: <CALci+FToR1hNgx=NRj7k=thZgpS_f+HVXJFkwBLCvFLYtMa7vA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALci+FToR1hNgx=NRj7k=thZgpS_f+HVXJFkwBLCvFLYtMa7vA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1b9bf8-c0fc-70b6-6796-775b2cda7337@gmail.com>

Le 11/12/2020 ? 18:15, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a ?crit?:
> in php we have too many generic helpers, functions etc.. so maybe php 
> programers are very lazy.. but php have those easy touse?things like 
> https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.file-get-contents.php
> 
> it does not care if are a file or url.. just use it and get json output..
> 
> is there something similar in gambas? for both desktop or web?
> 
> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

You have File.Load() to load a file into a string. Otherwise you can 
download a file through 'http' or 'https' with HttpClient.Download().

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 20:17:09 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 19:17:09 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Program not starting
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 18:52, Tony Morehen <tmorehen at ajm-software.com>
wrote:

> First, the current behaviour is what I expected. If I want a program to
> start hidden, I use a main.module, form.load approach.
>
> Perhaps all this needs is a debug message:  "Warning: The Visible
> property of the startup form of this project is set to False. This could
> result in undefined behavior."
>

But then you'd have warning messages even if you wanted it hidden.
Maybe this post will be all that's needed?

I assume (as you said you discovered the problem when rebuilding the form)
that this
is not the sort of error you will make when building a form from new now?
it's a problem with a way it used to work compared to how it is now. So it
will only effect a few with existing apps with the same "mistake".

They may search the mailing list for a solution for "Program wont start" ?

:)
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 20:23:29 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 19:23:29 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] which is the most close to file_get_contents ?
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 19:14, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 11/12/2020 ? 18:15, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a ?crit :
> > in php we have too many generic helpers, functions etc.. so maybe php
> > programers are very lazy.. but php have those easy touse things like
> > https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.file-get-contents.php
> >
> > it does not care if are a file or url.. just use it and get json output..
> >
>

Bare in mind though that all php functions happen server-side
you could not use it to load a file from your hard drive, just a file path
without a http:// url prefix in your web app, but that technically is still
a URL.

so it does care really :)

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sat Dec 12 20:31:40 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 20:31:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
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Am 12.12.20 um 03:59 schrieb Bruce Steers:

> How's about something simple like this in FMessage.class?
> 
> *Public Sub txtMessage_DblClick()
> 
> ? Clipboard.Copy(txtMessage.**Text)
> ? txtMessage.Text = ("Text Coppied.")
> ? Wait 1
> ? txtMessage.Text = Clipboard.Paste()
> 
> End*

Actually it's quite funny. But nevertheless I would find it confusing
and not intuitive. There are a number of well-known commands to copy to
the clipboard like Ctrl-C, Ctrl-Insert.

Double-click is not one of them. If someone copied something important
and it was replaced by double clicking a message it would be annoying.
By no means should it be default behavior in Gambas.

I found the old behaviour the best and easiest: Highlight the text with
the mouse and press Crtl-C.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Sat Dec 12 20:56:59 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:56:59 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Program not starting
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Plz see below.

On 2020-12-12 2:17 p.m., Bruce Steers wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 18:52, Tony Morehen <tmorehen at ajm-software.com 
> <mailto:tmorehen at ajm-software.com>> wrote:
>
>     First, the current behaviour is what I expected. If I want a
>     program to
>     start hidden, I use a main.module, form.load approach.
>
>     Perhaps all this needs is a debug message:? "Warning: The Visible
>     property of the startup form of this project is set to False. This
>     could
>     result in undefined behavior."
>
>
> But then you'd have warning messages even if you wanted it hidden.
> Maybe this post will be all that's needed?

This is why I posted in the first place.? The warning should only apply 
to startup forms. A hidden startup form can crash without an error 
message, hence the need for a warning. To get a hidden startup, in a 
startup module Main.module:

Sub Main()

 ??? fMain.Load()

End

This works in all circumstances and has known behavior: fMain's _new(), 
Form_Load() routines run, Form_Show() does not. etc.? We don't know what 
happens with hidden startup form.? Mine crashed. Will other, perhaps 
simpler, forms?

>
> I assume (as you said you discovered the problem when rebuilding the 
> form) that this
> is not the sort of error you will make when building a form from new now?
> it's a problem with a way it used to work compared to how it is now. 
> So it will only effect a few with existing apps with the same "mistake".
You could set the startup form's Visible? property false by accident 
anytime.? I'm pretty sure that's what happened to my project.? I changed 
the forms property when I thought I was editing a control on the form.
>
> They may search the mailing list for a solution for "Program wont start" ?
>
> :)
> BruceS
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 20:57:26 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 20:57:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
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Le 12/12/2020 ? 20:31, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
> 
> I found the old behaviour the best and easiest: Highlight the text with
> the mouse and press Crtl-C.
> 

The problem is that I don't have a control that both displays rich text 
and allows it to be selectable. :-/

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 21:00:05 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:00:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Program not starting
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Le 12/12/2020 ? 20:56, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
> 
> This is why I posted in the first place.? The warning should only apply 
> to startup forms. A hidden startup form can crash without an error 
> message, hence the need for a warning. To get a hidden startup, in a 
> startup module Main.module:
> 
> Sub Main()
> 
>  ??? fMain.Load()
> 
> End
> 
> This works in all circumstances and has known behavior: fMain's _new(), 
> Form_Load() routines run, Form_Show() does not. etc.? We don't know what 
> happens with hidden startup form.? Mine crashed. Will other, perhaps 
> simpler, forms?
> 
Can you send me your project with the hidden startup form, so that I can 
understand what happens exactly?

If the startup form is hidden, it is not automatically shown, but the 
form is instanciated.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Sat Dec 12 21:03:38 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 15:03:38 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <d9e815b0-783c-2191-3bce-5412fe205470@deganius.de>
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I liked the old behavior myself.? I didn't even recognize the new copy 
button as a button.? I wondered what it was, perhaps an unwanted 
leftover from a "Don't show this message again" checkbox?

On 2020-12-12 2:31 p.m., Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 12.12.20 um 03:59 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>
>> How's about something simple like this in FMessage.class?
>>
>> *Public Sub txtMessage_DblClick()
>>
>>  ? Clipboard.Copy(txtMessage.**Text)
>>  ? txtMessage.Text = ("Text Coppied.")
>>  ? Wait 1
>>  ? txtMessage.Text = Clipboard.Paste()
>>
>> End*
> Actually it's quite funny. But nevertheless I would find it confusing
> and not intuitive. There are a number of well-known commands to copy to
> the clipboard like Ctrl-C, Ctrl-Insert.
>
> Double-click is not one of them. If someone copied something important
> and it was replaced by double clicking a message it would be annoying.
> By no means should it be default behavior in Gambas.
>
> I found the old behaviour the best and easiest: Highlight the text with
> the mouse and press Crtl-C.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sat Dec 12 21:38:33 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:38:33 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
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Am 12.12.20 um 21:03 schrieb Tony Morehen:

> I liked the old behavior myself.? I didn't even recognize the new copy
> button as a button.? I wondered what it was, perhaps an unwanted
> leftover from a "Don't show this message again" checkbox?

Hups? Can you point me to the right direction? I've never seen any
button. Here with 3.15.21.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sat Dec 12 21:43:50 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:43:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
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Am 12.12.20 um 20:57 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 12/12/2020 ? 20:31, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
>>
>> I found the old behaviour the best and easiest: Highlight the text with
>> the mouse and press Crtl-C.
> 
> The problem is that I don't have a control that both displays rich text 
> and allows it to be selectable. :-/

Why do error messages have to be displayed with rich text?
Error "by design"?

;-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 23:01:01 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 22:01:01 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 19:32, Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de>
wrote:

> Am 12.12.20 um 03:59 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>
> > How's about something simple like this in FMessage.class?
> >
> > *Public Sub txtMessage_DblClick()
> >
> >   Clipboard.Copy(txtMessage.**Text)
> >   txtMessage.Text = ("Text Coppied.")
> >   Wait 1
> >   txtMessage.Text = Clipboard.Paste()
> >
> > End*
>
> Actually it's quite funny. But nevertheless I would find it confusing
> and not intuitive. There are a number of well-known commands to copy to
> the clipboard like Ctrl-C, Ctrl-Insert.
>
> Double-click is not one of them. If someone copied something important
> and it was replaced by double clicking a message it would be annoying.
> By no means should it be default behavior in Gambas.
>
> I found the old behaviour the best and easiest: Highlight the text with
> the mouse and press Crtl-C.
>

Seems the TextLabel control does not do highlighting though :(
So an alternative behaviour could unavoidable.
You'd have to assume restoring the old behaviour was not such a simple task
or Ben would have done that.
I saw the commit you pointed to and saw he added a copy button but it seems
to be gone now.

you may have to adjust slightly, bend a little, change your instruction to
your subjects from
"drag-n-select the text, right click and select copy" to "double click the
text" ;)

I just noticed there is already a popup menu "copy text" item and function
set up in the message source.
But nothing has mnuPopup set as its menu.

It works but the shortcut key Ctrl+C does not.

Could that be enabled Ben?


BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 13 00:23:46 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 23:23:46 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
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>
> I just noticed there is already a popup menu "copy text" item and function
> set up in the message source.
> But nothing has mnuPopup set as its menu.
>
> It works but the shortcut key Ctrl+C does not.
>
> Could that be enabled Ben?
>

Ben, i just found using the Ctrl-C shortcut for the mnuPopup in
FMessage.form does work on QT but does not GTK.
This i think would address this problem if it worked on GTK.
The text may not be selectable but at least it will still copy to clipboard
on Ctrl+C press.

Also seeing the "default" button focused and pressing tab or left/right
arrow keys to focus another button displays the dotted border as you press
on QT so you can see what button is selected.
but on GTK the buttons show no different and you cannot tell what button
has focus.

BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 13 13:43:32 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 12:43:32 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Closing a Message!
In-Reply-To: <a8533d61-bab5-5c21-7ba3-5be8702928b7@gmail.com>
References: <445c5b59-7cf4-96e6-49b0-3f4185296cd8@cogier.com>
 <fff1cc27-9dcd-3a4e-12ba-9b446ecc9971@gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFYka1vOS1b-nV+zpp6hnc5ZNHMsW7fNapL=+W6FnHstpQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <65d87156-d95e-b7a6-84d7-e4167913d550@gmail.com>
 <96c51f30-918f-33f4-37ba-e790778da47f@deganius.de>
 <CABuQYCCDJcnqXW-HcaUEL5S7miMRMApmtQmrvcd78Q6XDOPhFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <d9e815b0-783c-2191-3bce-5412fe205470@deganius.de>
 <a8533d61-bab5-5c21-7ba3-5be8702928b7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCA-dzcQb7vnwgEb+5HehMst6v-QURAe7D0SwEvUdeS+tQ@mail.gmail.com>

https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/commit/c63f065b6d413427e170d298fe666a745b64af49
This Maybe?

Not too much complicated..

This Message() has a new property..
Message.NoRichText As Boolean
Set it to true and Message uses TextArea instead of TextLabel.
Gain Highlight/Ctrl-C ability but lose HTML parsing.
But have choice.

Have also re-enabled your Copy Text menu that pops up if it's a non text
selectable TextLabel.

So many alternative options...
Any other gambas programmers out there got any good/productive/acceptable
solutions?
;) :p

BruceS



On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 19:59, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 12/12/2020 ? 20:31, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit :
> >
> > I found the old behaviour the best and easiest: Highlight the text with
> > the mouse and press Crtl-C.
> >
>
> The problem is that I don't have a control that both displays rich text
> and allows it to be selectable. :-/
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Sun Dec 13 23:07:46 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:07:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
Message-ID: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>

Hi,

I started to make the gb.dwg component I am following the instructions 
from Tobias Boege "Writing a native component for gambas" [0].

The objective is to use the project made for Reini Urban [1] and of 
course the LibreDWG library.

[0] https://wasd.urz.uni-magdeburg.de/tboege/gambas/native_comp.pdf

[1] https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings

So I follow the first steps.

0) Install all the dependecies recomended by the web site for Arch 
distro (I use Manjaro) -> sudo pacman -Syu --needed --noconfirmalure ... 
here tthe option "--noconfirmalure" doesent work on my terminal then I 
decide not use it

1) Download the source code - ok

2 ) Made the gb.dw.conf file, then run ./make-compoente gb.dwg but 
doesent work properly, the message was:

which: no cpp in 
(/home/USER/.local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl)
./make-component: error: cpp was not found

I attached the conf file gb.dwg.conf

Any sugestion?

Regards.

Mart?n Belmonte.


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/* Copyrights */
#define __COPYRIGHT (c) 2020
#define __AUTHOR Author
#define __EMAIL <Author at email.net>

/* Name of the component */
#define __COMPONENT gb.dwg

/* Name of the component with points replaced by underscore */
#define __COMPONENT_UNDERSCORE gb_dwg

/* Short name of the component */
#define __NAME dwg

/* Short name of the component in uppercase */
#define __UNAME DWG

/* Description of the component */
#define __DESCRIPTION LibreDWG library

/* If the component detection uses pkg-config */
#define __USE_PKGCONFIG 1

#if __USE_PKGCONFIG
	
	/* Name of the package for pkg-config */
	#define __PKGCONFIG_NAME dwg
	
	/* Minimum version needed */
	#define __PKGCONFIG_VERSION 1.0.0
	
#else /* __USE_PKGCONFIG */
	
	/* If your component uses C */
	#define __USE_C 1
	
	/* If your component uses C++ */
	//#define __USE_CPLUSPLUS 1
	
	/* If your component uses multi-threading */
	//#define __USE_THREAD 1
	
	/* If your component uses X-Window */
	//#define __USE_XWINDOW 1
	
	/* Includes to search for */
	#define __SEARCH_INCLUDE c_dwg.h c_ents.h 
	
	/* Includes directories search path */
	#define __SEARCH_INCLUDE_PATH /usr/local/lib /usr/local /usr/lib /usr
	
	/* Includes sub-directories search */
	//#define __SEARCH_INCLUDE_DIR test/include include c_dwg*/include test/*/include
	
	/* Libraries to search for */
	//#define __SEARCH_LIBRARY libtest.$SHLIBEXT libjpeg.$SHLIBEXT libpng.$SHLIBEXT
	
	/* Libraries directories search path */
	#define __SEARCH_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/local
	
	/* Libraries sub-directories search path */
	#define __SEARCH_LIBRARY_DIR lib
	
	/* Libraries to link with */
	#define __LIBRARY -libredwg
	
	/* Includes to link with */
	#define __INCLUDE -libredwg
	
#endif /* __USE_PKGCONFIG */

/* Source file list */
#define __SOURCES main.c main.h

/* Main C/C++ source basename in uppercase */
#define __MAIN_UNAME MAIN

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 13 23:56:48 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:56:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>

Le 13/12/2020 ? 23:07, Martin a ?crit?:
> 
> which: no cpp in 
> (/home/USER/.local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl)
> ./make-component: error: cpp was not found

You need a C compiler (gcc).

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From taboege at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 00:02:11 2020
From: taboege at gmail.com (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 00:02:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <20201213230211.GH1811581@highrise.localdomain>

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020, Martin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I started to make the gb.dwg component I am following the instructions from
> Tobias Boege "Writing a native component for gambas" [0].
> 

Oh, I hate documents that don't have their creation date printed on them.
>From the svn revision 6903 mentioned in the text, I estimate this was
written in 2015. I haven't tracked how the process changed since then.

I still have the source code for that document and could rehost it (I am
no longer in control over my old student website) and correct any mistakes.

> The objective is to use the project made for Reini Urban [1] and of course
> the LibreDWG library.
> 
> [0] https://wasd.urz.uni-magdeburg.de/tboege/gambas/native_comp.pdf
> 
> [1] https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings
> 

Wow, I didn't know Reini Urban was interested in Gambas!

> So I follow the first steps.
> 
> 0) Install all the dependecies recomended by the web site for Arch distro (I
> use Manjaro) -> sudo pacman -Syu --needed --noconfirmalure ... here tthe
> option "--noconfirmalure" doesent work on my terminal then I decide not use
> it

This is almost surely a typo. "--noconfirmalure" should be two words:
"--noconfirm", which is an actual option of pacman (although I would
personally not use it when I install something interactively anyway),
and "alure", which is a dependency of gb.openal.

> 1) Download the source code - ok
> 
> 2 ) Made the gb.dw.conf file, then run ./make-compoente gb.dwg but doesent
> work properly, the message was:
> 
> which: no cpp in (/home/USER/.local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl)
> ./make-component: error: cpp was not found
> 

This indicates that you do not have a C compiler installed or one whose
preprocessor is not called "cpp". Install for example "gcc" on Arch Linux
and you should get your cpp.

Otherwise, make-component is just a convenience script. You do not have
to use it to make a functional new component. The cargo cult way which I
used more often than make-component is to copy a small native component
and adapt its source code. You can, in a clean Gambas repository,

  $ cp -r gb.gmp gb.dwg

and then adapt the following files

  gb.dwg/configure.ac
    - this is basically what you enter into gb.dwg.conf plus data
      on how the build process can figure out if the backing native
      library (something with "dwg"?) is installed or not

  gb.dwg/Makefile.am
    - rename GMP_DIR to DWG_DIR

  gb.dwg/src/gb.gmp.component
    - rename to gb.dwg.component and fill in correct information

  gb.dwg/src/Makefile.am
    - change all GMP to DWG and register your source files

  gb.dwg/src/*.{c,h}
    - this is your implementation, the files mentioned in the Makefile.am

and register the new component to the top-level build process via

  configure.ac
    - add gb.dwg to the long list of subdirectories

  Makefile.am
    - add your @dwg_dir@ to the long list of subdirectories

Then ./reconf-all && ./configure to see if it gets picked up.

Regards,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Mon Dec 14 09:53:55 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:53:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
 <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>

Effectively gcc was not installed. Well now I have installed it and the 
basic structure of the component was created successfully.

I will continue to advance, and in the next blockade I ask again.

Thanks.

Mart?n Belmonte

On 13/12/20 23:56, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 13/12/2020 ? 23:07, Martin a ?crit?:
>>
>> which: no cpp in 
>> (/home/USER/.local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl)
>> ./make-component: error: cpp was not found
>
> You need a C compiler (gcc).
>
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Tue Dec 15 11:10:25 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:10:25 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
 <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>
 <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <a2cab377-cf51-cbcf-cb8a-9154e17a0399@belmotek.net>

ok, the component structure is already created, and I have copied and 
overwritten the files with the libredwg/gambas-bindings3 project [1]
I am looking, as an example, at the gb.dbus component and in this there 
is a file called c_dbus.h in dwg I suppose its equivalent is c_dwg.h but 
both differ since they have considerable differences.
In gb.dbus there is also a gambas project (a directory) called gb.dbus 
and this is what is missing in the dwg component, correct?
Well, now the system does not have shrimp of any version installed, 
since I am going to install the development version with the component 
that I am trying to create. But to create the "gambas" part of the 
component I have to use gambas that doesn't exist in the system yet, so 
it looks like a uroboro.

So, wich is the correct system setup in order to develop a component?

What is the minimum I could do with c_dwg.h [2] ? and... how to do that?

[1] https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings

[2] https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings/blob/master/src/c_dwg.h

Regards

Mart?n Belmonte.

On 14/12/20 9:53, Martin wrote:
>
> Effectively gcc was not installed. Well now I have installed it and 
> the basic structure of the component was created successfully.
>
> I will continue to advance, and in the next blockade I ask again.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mart?n Belmonte
>
> On 13/12/20 23:56, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> Le 13/12/2020 ? 23:07, Martin a ?crit?:
>>>
>>> which: no cpp in 
>>> (/home/USER/.local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl)
>>> ./make-component: error: cpp was not found
>>
>> You need a C compiler (gcc).
>>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 13:18:27 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:18:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <a2cab377-cf51-cbcf-cb8a-9154e17a0399@belmotek.net>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
 <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>
 <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>
 <a2cab377-cf51-cbcf-cb8a-9154e17a0399@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <1396f201-b772-21cb-a246-65c9d70cc13c@gmail.com>

Le 15/12/2020 ? 11:10, Martin a ?crit?:
> ok, the component structure is already created, and I have copied and 
> overwritten the files with the libredwg/gambas-bindings3 project [1]
> I am looking, as an example, at the gb.dbus component and in this there 
> is a file called c_dbus.h in dwg I suppose its equivalent is c_dwg.h but 
> both differ since they have considerable differences.
> In gb.dbus there is also a gambas project (a directory) called gb.dbus 
> and this is what is missing in the dwg component, correct?
> Well, now the system does not have shrimp of any version installed, 
> since I am going to install the development version with the component 
> that I am trying to create. But to create the "gambas" part of the 
> component I have to use gambas that doesn't exist in the system yet, so 
> it looks like a uroboro.
> 
> So, wich is the correct system setup in order to develop a component?
> 
> What is the minimum I could do with c_dwg.h [2] ? and... how to do that?
> 
> [1] https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings
> 
> [2] https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings/blob/master/src/c_dwg.h
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mart?n Belmonte.
> 

Having a gambas part in a component is only automatically managed 
-inside- the Gambas source tree, as this management is done by the 
autoconf configuration.

If you develop the component outside of Gambas source tree, you have to 
mimic that autoconf configuration. As I told before, it's just having a 
Gambas project having the same name as the component, and installing the 
executable ("gb.dwg.gambas") in the same directory as the binary library 
file ("/usr/lib/gambas3/gb.dwg.so").

Tobias told you to mimic the 'gb.gmp' component, because it's simpler. I 
told you about 'gb.dbus' just for the mixing of library and Gambas 
project. Otherwise 'gb.dbus' is too complex to understand by itself for 
a start.

Regards,


-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Tue Dec 15 13:31:44 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:31:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Article about Gambas
Message-ID: <7975a983-7eac-e974-c9d2-321ebc612d4c@osnanet.de>

In the last (not current) German computer magazine "ct" they had an 
article about Gambas. It is not very long, just a two-column summary of 
its highlights, but alas...

Everything very positive, and they even mention JIT, the archiver and 
the scripter version.

There is a bit criticism about the documentation: the article closes 
with the words "However, the poor Gambas documentation in the form of a 
wiki urgently needs to be extended and updated".

Regards
Rolf

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Tue Dec 15 13:22:30 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:22:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Special Gambas update repo
Message-ID: <fc987777-2a87-37b2-f00f-13c11f142975@osnanet.de>

I have a new Ubuntu machine and I remember there was some special repo 
used instead of the Ubuntu sources. Or am I wrong here?

Clicking around on the website and the Download/Install pages didn't 
bring up any information - at least I couldn't find any.

Thanks for any hint.

Regards
Rolf

From hans at gambas-buch.de  Tue Dec 15 13:36:50 2020
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:36:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web-Service/Web-Interface
Message-ID: <4f0f01e8-ef29-e001-5900-3f5bdbd32a96@gambas-buch.de>

Hallo.

For the solution of the following task I need a solution idea:

I have a board with a temperature sensor, which can be connected to a 
computer via a RS232/USB adapter. The program to read the current 
tempatuir is after the basic configuration of the RS232 interface in the 
taskbar, so that only a TrayIcon is visible -> 
https://gambas-buch.de/dwen/doku.php?id=k13:k13.6:start .

I want to display the current temperature in a web page, where I can 
also configure the RS232 interface via a form.

How do I realize in a simple way the bi-directional exchange of data 
between the temperature measuring program and the web interface?

With kind regards

Hans

From gambas at cd-bahia.com  Tue Dec 15 14:18:05 2020
From: gambas at cd-bahia.com (Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 14:18:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview
Message-ID: <989a5375-fc9b-f9c2-3de6-a7bce9fcebad@cd-bahia.com>

Hi,
I have a problem setting the row in tableview.
I have a control tableview called ADR_TV.
Even if I say ADR_TV.Row=5 it does nothing (have more than 5 rows)
I also tried with ADR_TV.ScrollY=5.
And ADR_TV.Rows[5].Selected=True sets line 0 additionally to be selected
Of course I normally use a variable to set this, but the above shows my 
problem,
Thankful for any help,
Dag
Gambas 3. 15.2

From olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr  Tue Dec 15 15:28:54 2020
From: olivier.cruilles at yahoo.fr (Olivier Cruilles)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:28:54 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Special Gambas update repo
In-Reply-To: <fc987777-2a87-37b2-f00f-13c11f142975@osnanet.de>
References: <fc987777-2a87-37b2-f00f-13c11f142975@osnanet.de>
Message-ID: <40bf63ac-c882-4c76-a071-705e64aa0b77@Canary>

Here is the info for daily or stable PPA for Ubuntu

https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/ubuntu

?
Olivier Cruilles

> On Tuesday, Dec 15, 2020 at 07:33, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de (mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de)> wrote:
> I have a new Ubuntu machine and I remember there was some special repo
> used instead of the Ubuntu sources. Or am I wrong here?
>
> Clicking around on the website and the Download/Install pages didn't
> bring up any information - at least I couldn't find any.
>
> Thanks for any hint.
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec 15 16:20:39 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:20:39 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Article about Gambas
In-Reply-To: <7975a983-7eac-e974-c9d2-321ebc612d4c@osnanet.de>
References: <7975a983-7eac-e974-c9d2-321ebc612d4c@osnanet.de>
Message-ID: <926d5ebe-e29c-a42d-fe7a-a7d541d51d1c@deganius.de>

Hallo Rolf,

Am 15.12.20 um 13:31 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:

> In the last (not current) German computer magazine "ct" they had an 
> article about Gambas. It is not very long, just a two-column summary of 
> its highlights, but alas...

Kannst du ihn mir privat senden? In der c't ist er hinter der Paywall
... und ich habe Heise Plus extra nicht abonniert.

> Everything very positive, and they even mention JIT, the archiver and 
> the scripter version.
> 
> There is a bit criticism about the documentation: the article closes 
> with the words "However, the poor Gambas documentation in the form of a 
> wiki urgently needs to be extended and updated".

For me a clear sign that they have only scratched the surface. They
could also have asked in the German Gambas forum for support but they
didn't.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
Dies ist keine Signatur

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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Tue Dec 15 16:21:36 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:21:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Special Gambas update repo
In-Reply-To: <40bf63ac-c882-4c76-a071-705e64aa0b77@Canary>
References: <fc987777-2a87-37b2-f00f-13c11f142975@osnanet.de>
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Thank you Olivier!

But: How would I get there? Where in the wiki is the way to find it? I 
mean, when I am new (and do not know anyone here) and just want to try, 
shouldn't there be an easier way finding this? :)

Regards
Rolf


Am 15.12.20 um 15:28 schrieb Olivier Cruilles via User:
> Here is the info for daily or stable PPA for Ubuntu
> 
> https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/ubuntu
> 
> 
> ?
> Olivier Cruilles
> 
>     On Tuesday, Dec 15, 2020 at 07:33, Rolf-Werner Eilert
>     <rwe-sse at osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
>     I have a new Ubuntu machine and I remember there was some special repo
>     used instead of the Ubuntu sources. Or am I wrong here?
> 
>     Clicking around on the website and the Download/Install pages didn't
>     bring up any information - at least I couldn't find any.
> 
>     Thanks for any hint.
> 
>     Regards
>     Rolf
> 
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 


From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 16:52:01 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:52:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug with IsDate
In-Reply-To: <6f435243-3f50-f70a-fa5d-5f098c56cf8b@gmail.com>
References: <CAFJMe7Tj4B3HSDzM9uDFSRx5BApEyu-8=vUFEOpkR24FibRpRA@mail.gmail.com>
 <6f435243-3f50-f70a-fa5d-5f098c56cf8b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7RhgR654i=wA1RqHmgk9tPTWcmQAAQWnL3ZB0DkDD8Jwg@mail.gmail.com>

Here isdate(str(now)) still returns false. And str(now) returns "12/15/2020
05:50:05 PM".

Jussi


On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 6:42 PM Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 08/12/2020 ? 19:13, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit :
> > Currently in dev version IsDate does not understand the localization:
> > ? IsDate(Str(Now))
> > False
> >
> > $ locale
> > LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> > LANGUAGE=en_US
> > LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_NUMERIC=fi_FI.UTF-8
> > LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.UTF-8
> > LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_PAPER=fi_FI.UTF-8
> > LC_NAME=fi_FI.UTF-8
> > LC_ADDRESS=fi_FI.UTF-8
> > LC_TELEPHONE=fi_FI.UTF-8
> > LC_MEASUREMENT=fi_FI.UTF-8
> > LC_IDENTIFICATION=fi_FI.UTF-8
> > LC_ALL=
> >
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> It should be fixed in commit
>
> https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/-/commit/93659c3f7eab356b922d5be161990bf888fb3fd8
> .
>
> Now Str() on dates returns something that Val() and IsDate() can
> understand.
>
> A function that could be named "Date.FromString()" should be made for
> understanding any local date in any format. Val() and IsDate() cannot be
> made clever enough for that, too complex!
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 17:01:13 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:01:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug with IsDate
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References: <CAFJMe7Tj4B3HSDzM9uDFSRx5BApEyu-8=vUFEOpkR24FibRpRA@mail.gmail.com>
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Le 15/12/2020 ? 16:52, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit?:
> Here isdate(str(now)) still returns false. And str(now) returns 
> "12/15/2020 05:50:05 PM".
> 
> Jussi
> 

You're right, I forgot that. Sorry!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 17:06:48 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:06:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Special Gambas update repo
In-Reply-To: <0d5284b5-33cf-739c-debd-64a71566ea4d@osnanet.de>
References: <fc987777-2a87-37b2-f00f-13c11f142975@osnanet.de>
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Le mar. 15 d?c. 2020 ? 16:24, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> a ?crit :
>
> Thank you Olivier!
>
> But: How would I get there? Where in the wiki is the way to find it? I
> mean, when I am new (and do not know anyone here) and just want to try,
> shouldn't there be an easier way finding this? :)


I'm really agree ...It's a pain to find it... lost in the middle of
the installation page.

From roberto.premoli at tiscali.it  Tue Dec 15 16:37:11 2020
From: roberto.premoli at tiscali.it (roberto.premoli at tiscali.it)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:37:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Article about Gambas
In-Reply-To: <926d5ebe-e29c-a42d-fe7a-a7d541d51d1c@deganius.de>
References: <7975a983-7eac-e974-c9d2-321ebc612d4c@osnanet.de>
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Il 15.12.2020 16:20 Christof Thalhofer ha scritto:

> Hallo Rolf,
>
> Am 15.12.20 um 13:31 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
>
>> In the last (not current) German computer magazine "ct" they had an
>> article about Gambas. It is not very long, just a two-column summary 
>> of
>> its highlights, but alas...
>
> Kannst du ihn mir privat senden? In der c't ist er hinter der Paywall
> ... und ich habe Heise Plus extra nicht abonniert.
>
>> Everything very positive, and they even mention JIT, the archiver 
>> and
>> the scripter version. There is a bit criticism about the 
>> documentation:
>> the article closes with the words "However, the poor Gambas
>> documentation in the form of a wiki urgently needs to be extended 
>> and
>> updated".
>
> For me a clear sign that they have only scratched the surface. They
> could also have asked in the German Gambas forum for support but they
> didn't.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> -- Dies ist keine Signatur

Authors of articles for magazines are poorly payed: it is not a 
surprise if they don't goo deeper into an argoument
I wrote several articles for italian magaziene,  then the start to 
decrese the money for articles. My alternative was to decrease the 
quality or resign: i resigned.
now i am back to write for anothe magazine that pay me better.
dont complay authors, complain magazienes.




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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Tue Dec 15 17:25:30 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:25:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Special Gambas update repo
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL7uSwaXw7BdVZUgnHF8gTPJEeH07S6Yb1EQERN1M3GA2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fc987777-2a87-37b2-f00f-13c11f142975@osnanet.de>
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Am 15.12.20 um 17:06 schrieb Fabien Bodard:
> Le mar. 15 d?c. 2020 ? 16:24, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> a ?crit :
>>
>> Thank you Olivier!
>>
>> But: How would I get there? Where in the wiki is the way to find it? I
>> mean, when I am new (and do not know anyone here) and just want to try,
>> shouldn't there be an easier way finding this? :)
> 
> 
> I'm really agree ...It's a pain to find it... lost in the middle of
> the installation page.
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Maybe we should make a landing page under "Downloads" with some brief 
and friendly "If you want this, If you want that" and linking to 
specialized pages

Regards
Rolf


From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec 15 17:59:05 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:59:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Article about Gambas
In-Reply-To: <ff1dd82fbc3c108e6bdef2da1d7ae5d5@tiscali.it>
References: <7975a983-7eac-e974-c9d2-321ebc612d4c@osnanet.de>
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Message-ID: <07a161e3-117c-9e12-7fba-81b67b30e8ac@deganius.de>

Hi Roberto,

Am 15.12.20 um 16:37 schrieb roberto.premoli at tiscali.it:

> Authors of articles for magazines are poorly payed: it is not a 
> surprise if they don't goo deeper into an argoument
> I wrote several articles for italian magaziene,  then the start to 
> decrese the money for articles. My alternative was to decrease the 
> quality or resign: i resigned.
> now i am back to write for anothe magazine that pay me better.
> dont complay authors, complain magazienes.

Yes i think you are right. But the German c't magazine is one of the
oldest and known as one of the best (together with 'IX' from the same
publishing house).

I think we have to blame the internet for the decay of the publishers.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
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From charlie at cogier.com  Tue Dec 15 17:39:29 2020
From: charlie at cogier.com (Charlie Ogier)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:39:29 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Special Gambas update repo
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On 15/12/2020 12:22, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> I have a new Ubuntu machine and I remember there was some special repo 
> used instead of the Ubuntu sources. Or am I wrong here?
>
> Clicking around on the website and the Download/Install pages didn't 
> bring up any information - at least I couldn't find any.
>
> Thanks for any hint.
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Hi Rolf,

Run one of these commands in Terminal.

Gambas3 Stable
*sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:gambas-team/gambas3 && sudo apt-get 
update && sudo apt-get -y install gambas3*

Gambas3 Daily Build
*sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:gambas-team/gambas-daily && sudo apt-get 
update && sudo apt-get -y install gambas3*

Charlie
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 18:30:28 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:30:28 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Special Gambas update repo
In-Reply-To: <4abfd3cf-19a8-743c-4733-907c31bfde7d@osnanet.de>
References: <fc987777-2a87-37b2-f00f-13c11f142975@osnanet.de>
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There already is a landing page, it's called install not download.
where in the wiki?
First page in big letters "Compilation & Installation"
Clicking that goes to the compilation / installation info page.
If not finding what instructions you want there is the "Other instructions
for specific distributions and older versions
<https://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install#t16>"
That links to all the specialized instructions for different versions.
Then click Ubuntu the very first thing shown is the ppa install method.

I tried to make it easier to spot by removing it from "the middle" of the
index to the last item.
I also added a note by the Ubuntu package list that points to the ppa
install info for you.

BruceS

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 16:26, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> wrote:

> Am 15.12.20 um 17:06 schrieb Fabien Bodard:
> > Le mar. 15 d?c. 2020 ? 16:24, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> a
> ?crit :
> >>
> >> Thank you Olivier!
> >>
> >> But: How would I get there? Where in the wiki is the way to find it? I
> >> mean, when I am new (and do not know anyone here) and just want to try,
> >> shouldn't there be an easier way finding this? :)
> >
> >
> > I'm really agree ...It's a pain to find it... lost in the middle of
> > the installation page.
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> Maybe we should make a landing page under "Downloads" with some brief
> and friendly "If you want this, If you want that" and linking to
> specialized pages
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From roberto.premoli at tiscali.it  Tue Dec 15 18:31:52 2020
From: roberto.premoli at tiscali.it (roberto.premoli at tiscali.it)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 18:31:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Article about Gambas
In-Reply-To: <07a161e3-117c-9e12-7fba-81b67b30e8ac@deganius.de>
References: <7975a983-7eac-e974-c9d2-321ebc612d4c@osnanet.de>
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Il 15.12.2020 17:59 Christof Thalhofer ha scritto:

> Hi Roberto,
>
> Am 15.12.20 um 16:37 schrieb roberto.premoli at tiscali.it [1]:
>
>> Authors of articles for magazines are poorly payed: it is not a
>> surprise if they don't goo deeper into an argoument I wrote several
>> articles for italian magaziene, then the start to decrese the money 
>> for
>> articles. My alternative was to decrease the quality or resign: i
>> resigned. now i am back to write for anothe magazine that pay me
>> better. dont complay authors, complain magazienes.
>
> Yes i think you are right. But the German c't magazine is one of the
> oldest and known as one of the best (together with 'IX' from the same
> publishing house).
>
> I think we have to blame the internet for the decay of the 
> publishers.

I agree. Internet born on "now, easy, free of charge". But NOTHING came 
for free, someone MUST pay for.
some of my articles ask 20-30 days of study, test atc, absolutly not 
compatible with those few coins they pay,
and publishers-on-paper cannot face Internet, so many of them bankrupt 
and who survided, was forced to
adapt and adapt means reduce internal employee for "text review", 
payment to authors and as consdguence,
quality of articles. Sometime i read articles: clearly they are only 
english articles badly translate
in ITalian by someone that it is easy to understand is not skilled in 
argoument he is translating.
Sometimes i called publisher complain about errors and the reply was "i 
know, but i can do nothing about".
this is internet, baby :-)




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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 18:45:17 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:45:17 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Article about Gambas
In-Reply-To: <ff1dd82fbc3c108e6bdef2da1d7ae5d5@tiscali.it>
References: <7975a983-7eac-e974-c9d2-321ebc612d4c@osnanet.de>
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>  There is a bit criticism about the

> >> documentation:
> >> the article closes with the words "However, the poor Gambas
> >> documentation in the form of a wiki urgently needs to be extended
> >> and
> >> updated".
> >
> > For me a clear sign that they have only scratched the surface. They
> > could also have asked in the German Gambas forum for support but they
> > didn't.
> >
> > Alles Gute
> >
> > Christof Thalhofer
> >
> > -- Dies ist keine Signatur
>
> Authors of articles for magazines are poorly payed: it is not a
> surprise if they don't goo deeper into an argoument
> I wrote several articles for italian magaziene,  then the start to
> decrese the money for articles. My alternative was to decrease the
> quality or resign: i resigned.
> now i am back to write for anothe magazine that pay me better.
> dont complay authors, complain magazienes.
>

So they don't get paid enough so don't write much of a report but say our
info is poor.
Do they know those who write to the gambas wiki don't get paid anything at
all?

Cool how much better than them we are ;) lol
BruceS
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec 15 18:56:04 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 18:56:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Article about Gambas
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Am 15.12.20 um 18:45 schrieb Bruce Steers:

> So they don't get paid enough so don't write much of a report but say
> our info is poor.
> Do they know those who write to the gambas wiki don't get paid anything
> at all?
> 
> Cool how much better than them we are ;) lol

This seems to be too optimistic.

The Gambas wiki also contains a lot of bs. There is unfortunately no
instance that checks and releases articles.

We are slowly getting better and better, but programming has something
to do with math and is much easier to check . No comparison with newspapers.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 19:18:51 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 18:18:51 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Article about Gambas
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Well it beats the dark side of pessimism innit.
(I remember some film as a kid saying "beware the dark side or it will
consume you" and it kind of stuck ;))

I agree, gambas wiki is full of useless info.
the other day i edited the Control.Public info as it said something like
"return or set if control is public" :-\ , pretty obvious from the name,
the info said nothing more than was already clear to see.  So i elaborated
it a bit.

I also find the wiki much more of a "how to use gambas components" database
rather than a "how to use Gambas" , not much info on the IDE at all. So for
newcomers it's a live and learn adventure of trial and error.  Personally i
loved that adventure , it was fun :)

I was merely comparing the differences between , don't expect the magazine
writers to do much as they don't get paid enough and the effort that's gone
into the Gambas wiki for free.  A point of note i think.


On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 17:57, Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de>
wrote:

> Am 15.12.20 um 18:45 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>
> > So they don't get paid enough so don't write much of a report but say
> > our info is poor.
> > Do they know those who write to the gambas wiki don't get paid anything
> > at all?
> >
> > Cool how much better than them we are ;) lol
>
> This seems to be too optimistic.
>
> The Gambas wiki also contains a lot of bs. There is unfortunately no
> instance that checks and releases articles.
>
> We are slowly getting better and better, but programming has something
> to do with math and is much easier to check . No comparison with
> newspapers.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 20:24:41 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 14:24:41 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview
In-Reply-To: <989a5375-fc9b-f9c2-3de6-a7bce9fcebad@cd-bahia.com>
References: <989a5375-fc9b-f9c2-3de6-a7bce9fcebad@cd-bahia.com>
Message-ID: <cc5d87cc-66f2-04cc-a299-8c718f016b94@gmail.com>

On 12/15/20 8:18 AM, Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a problem setting the row in tableview.
> I have a control tableview called ADR_TV.
> Even if I say ADR_TV.Row=5 it does nothing (have more than 5 rows)
> I also tried with ADR_TV.ScrollY=5.
> And ADR_TV.Rows[5].Selected=True sets line 0 additionally to be selected
> Of course I normally use a variable to set this, but the above shows my problem,
> Thankful for any help,
> Dag
> Gambas 3. 15.2
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Are you trying to set the row index or select a row?

Setting the row index does nothing that is visible.
I am unsure what the ScrollY property is for since it does not appear to do anything visible. And, even the Scroll method does 
not scroll the view to the specified cell, even after a Refresh.
GridView1.Rows[x].Selected=True works as expected for me selecting only the specified row and no other.


-- 
Lee

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 20:34:14 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 14:34:14 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web-Service/Web-Interface
In-Reply-To: <4f0f01e8-ef29-e001-5900-3f5bdbd32a96@gambas-buch.de>
References: <4f0f01e8-ef29-e001-5900-3f5bdbd32a96@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <daa3fdb3-0156-29c3-a6f0-90e8fe31e309@gmail.com>

On 12/15/20 7:36 AM, Hans Lehmann wrote:
> Hallo.
> 
> For the solution of the following task I need a solution idea:
> 
> I have a board with a temperature sensor, which can be connected to a computer via a RS232/USB adapter. The program to read the 
> current tempatuir is after the basic configuration of the RS232 interface in the taskbar, so that only a TrayIcon is visible -> 
> https://gambas-buch.de/dwen/doku.php?id=k13:k13.6:start .
> 
> I want to display the current temperature in a web page, where I can also configure the RS232 interface via a form.
> 
> How do I realize in a simple way the bi-directional exchange of data between the temperature measuring program and the web 
> interface?
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Hans
> 

Depending on what you intend to use for your web server/interface, you might set up a Socket in that app that would receive 
commands from the web interface to, for example, get the current temperature and send RS232 configuration parameters.


-- 
Lee

From gambas at cd-bahia.com  Tue Dec 15 21:05:29 2020
From: gambas at cd-bahia.com (Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 21:05:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview
In-Reply-To: <cc5d87cc-66f2-04cc-a299-8c718f016b94@gmail.com>
References: <989a5375-fc9b-f9c2-3de6-a7bce9fcebad@cd-bahia.com>
 <cc5d87cc-66f2-04cc-a299-8c718f016b94@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f4435d90-7c22-e12e-bffa-3696776c900b@cd-bahia.com>

wow, my mistake,
worked without a single source line change!
Thanks again,
Dag

Am 15.12.20 um 20:24 schrieb T Lee Davidson:
> On 12/15/20 8:18 AM, Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have a problem setting the row in tableview.
>> I have a control tableview called ADR_TV.
>> Even if I say ADR_TV.Row=5 it does nothing (have more than 5 rows)
>> I also tried with ADR_TV.ScrollY=5.
>> And ADR_TV.Rows[5].Selected=True sets line 0 additionally to be selected
>> Of course I normally use a variable to set this, but the above shows 
>> my problem,
>> Thankful for any help,
>> Dag
>> Gambas 3. 15.2
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> Are you trying to set the row index or select a row?
>
> Setting the row index does nothing that is visible.
> I am unsure what the ScrollY property is for since it does not appear 
> to do anything visible. And, even the Scroll method does not scroll 
> the view to the specified cell, even after a Refresh.
> GridView1.Rows[x].Selected=True works as expected for me selecting 
> only the specified row and no other.
>
>


From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 22:18:35 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 22:18:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview
In-Reply-To: <cc5d87cc-66f2-04cc-a299-8c718f016b94@gmail.com>
References: <989a5375-fc9b-f9c2-3de6-a7bce9fcebad@cd-bahia.com>
 <cc5d87cc-66f2-04cc-a299-8c718f016b94@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbmHZPWh0=6=S5cDYzbXUqXrONV4-uk4ZiexX6LFOYueA@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno mar 15 dic 2020 alle ore 20:25 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On 12/15/20 8:18 AM, Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I have a problem setting the row in tableview.
> > I have a control tableview called ADR_TV.
> > Even if I say ADR_TV.Row=5 it does nothing (have more than 5 rows)
> > I also tried with ADR_TV.ScrollY=5.
> > And ADR_TV.Rows[5].Selected=True sets line 0 additionally to be selected
> > Of course I normally use a variable to set this, but the above shows my
> problem,
> > Thankful for any help,
> > Dag
> > Gambas 3. 15.2
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> Are you trying to set the row index or select a row?
>
> Setting the row index does nothing that is visible.
> I am unsure what the ScrollY property is for since it does not appear to
> do anything visible. And, even the Scroll method does
> not scroll the view to the specified cell, even after a Refresh.
> GridView1.Rows[x].Selected=True works as expected for me selecting only
> the specified row and no other.
> --
> Lee
>

But how is the Mode property set, to Single or?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 22:36:15 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 22:36:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Christof,

normally after a few seconds that I sent an email I receive the
communication "... was successfully received by the User mailing list"

But it is now more than 15 minutes that I have sent a reply without
communication.

Greetings
Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec 15 23:11:01 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 23:11:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6b323389-4e72-07cb-c376-15e131e4840d@deganius.de>

Am 15.12.20 um 22:36 schrieb Gianluigi:
> Hi Christof,
> 
> normally after a few seconds that I sent an email I receive the
> communication "... was successfully received by the User mailing list"
> 
> But it is now more than 15 minutes that I have sent a reply without
> communication.

Take another provider.

Gmail now bounces all mails and denies that the users exist (I replaced
the accountnames with 'xyzxyz'):

> <xyzxyz at gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[108.177.127.27]
>     said: 550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist.
>     Please try 550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for
>     typos or 550-5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. Learn more at 550 5.1.1
>     https://support.google.com/mail/?p=NoSuchUser hq14si41015ejc.99 - gsmtp (in
>     reply to RCPT TO command)
> 
> <xyzxyz at gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[108.177.127.27] said:
>     550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please
>     try 550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or
>     550-5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. Learn more at 550 5.1.1
>     https://support.google.com/mail/?p=NoSuchUser hq14si41015ejc.99 - gsmtp (in
>     reply to RCPT TO command)
> 
> <xyzxyz at gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[108.177.127.27] said:
>     550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please
>     try 550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or
>     550-5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. Learn more at 550 5.1.1
>     https://support.google.com/mail/?p=NoSuchUser hq14si41015ejc.99 - gsmtp (in
>     reply to RCPT TO command)
> 
> ....

This for all Gmail users as I can see. Gmail has a major problem now.
Maybe tomorrow you'll read it in thge newspapers. I've never seen a mail
provider beeing as bad as this one.

I bet this mail will be bounced also.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 00:08:47 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 01:08:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug with IsDate
In-Reply-To: <ff6b0211-d41f-ffb3-073e-1fed71715c1e@gmail.com>
References: <CAFJMe7Tj4B3HSDzM9uDFSRx5BApEyu-8=vUFEOpkR24FibRpRA@mail.gmail.com>
 <6f435243-3f50-f70a-fa5d-5f098c56cf8b@gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7RhgR654i=wA1RqHmgk9tPTWcmQAAQWnL3ZB0DkDD8Jwg@mail.gmail.com>
 <ff6b0211-d41f-ffb3-073e-1fed71715c1e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7SddU2O5AQz17xv_1b9TV6MeD1m_DTzhJN9z5NBmmoxPA@mail.gmail.com>

It works now. Thanks!

Jussi

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 6:02 PM Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 15/12/2020 ? 16:52, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit :
> > Here isdate(str(now)) still returns false. And str(now) returns
> > "12/15/2020 05:50:05 PM".
> >
> > Jussi
> >
>
> You're right, I forgot that. Sorry!
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 02:50:16 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 02:50:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <6b323389-4e72-07cb-c376-15e131e4840d@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
 <6b323389-4e72-07cb-c376-15e131e4840d@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <dd6b0f4c-524e-3e94-a9e5-5a074b31f312@gmail.com>

Le 15/12/2020 ? 23:11, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit?:
>>
>> ....
> 
> This for all Gmail users as I can see. Gmail has a major problem now.
> Maybe tomorrow you'll read it in thge newspapers. I've never seen a mail
> provider beeing as bad as this one.
> 
> I bet this mail will be bounced also.
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
> Christof Thalhofer
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

I confirm that I cannot send anymore any mail to any gmail user.

I tried directly from gmail.com, and didn't get an error. But I don't 
know if my recipient got the mail, as I can't join them easily.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 03:15:26 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 04:15:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <dd6b0f4c-524e-3e94-a9e5-5a074b31f312@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
 <6b323389-4e72-07cb-c376-15e131e4840d@deganius.de>
 <dd6b0f4c-524e-3e94-a9e5-5a074b31f312@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7QLy8HQAGDyL34WpUUDEG7YkP4x-noc+z2CRN7XvpQxjA@mail.gmail.com>

>
> I confirm that I cannot send anymore any mail to any gmail user.
>
> I tried directly from gmail.com, and didn't get an error. But I don't
> know if my recipient got the mail, as I can't join them easily.
>

At least this came through.


Jussi
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 04:21:18 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 22:21:18 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem with tableview
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFbmHZPWh0=6=S5cDYzbXUqXrONV4-uk4ZiexX6LFOYueA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <989a5375-fc9b-f9c2-3de6-a7bce9fcebad@cd-bahia.com>
 <cc5d87cc-66f2-04cc-a299-8c718f016b94@gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFbmHZPWh0=6=S5cDYzbXUqXrONV4-uk4ZiexX6LFOYueA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f8ef6e82-76a9-ff21-df24-f453a4b75fe3@gmail.com>

On 12/15/20 4:18 PM, Gianluigi wrote:
>     Setting the row index does nothing that is visible.
>     I am unsure what the ScrollY property is for since it does not appear to do anything visible. And, even the Scroll method does
>     not scroll the view to the specified cell, even after a Refresh.
>     GridView1.Rows[x].Selected=True works as expected for me selecting only the specified row and no other.
>     -- 
>     Lee
> 
> 
> But how is the Mode property set, to Single or?
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi

I thought that I had tested it set to Single and Multiple. I just went back and tested again to be sure.

I still get the expected result that only one row is selected. However, interestingly, I discovered that the Scroll method works 
with Mode set to Single but does not work with Mode set to Multiple.


-- 
Lee

From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Dec 16 08:36:36 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 08:36:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7QLy8HQAGDyL34WpUUDEG7YkP4x-noc+z2CRN7XvpQxjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
 <6b323389-4e72-07cb-c376-15e131e4840d@deganius.de>
 <dd6b0f4c-524e-3e94-a9e5-5a074b31f312@gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7QLy8HQAGDyL34WpUUDEG7YkP4x-noc+z2CRN7XvpQxjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fefac9d4-2624-5afa-0b5f-a5720951f6f2@deganius.de>

Am 16.12.20 um 03:15 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:

>     I confirm that I cannot send anymore any mail to any gmail user.
> 
>     I tried directly from gmail.com <http://gmail.com>, and didn't get
>     an error. But I don't
>     know if my recipient got the mail, as I can't join them easily.
> 
> 
> At least this came through.

The last bounces were this morning at 0:08. Let's see.
They had problems with the Google account management. Also YouTube and
other services were hit.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Wed Dec 16 10:31:29 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 10:31:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dependencies for Manjaro
Message-ID: <b426063c-86b4-7875-d088-470a6746aa9f@belmotek.net>

Hi,

I follow the dependencies indicated for install gambas in Arch linux for 
a Manjaro system but pacman don't recognize the parameter 
--noconfirmalure maybe is wrong?

The copy paste from the web page [1] don't work properly because some 
missing spaces between packages names.

||libsmlibxcursor / |pcrepkg-config / qt5-svgqt5-webkit / |||sdl2_netsdl2_ttf / |||xdg-utilszlib|

[1] http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html#

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 10:32:04 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 10:32:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <fefac9d4-2624-5afa-0b5f-a5720951f6f2@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
 <6b323389-4e72-07cb-c376-15e131e4840d@deganius.de>
 <dd6b0f4c-524e-3e94-a9e5-5a074b31f312@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFZyrzx+zPQftz4Qk4Fnhqv6QhEHz_9EUdXLqq_KJOTYOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno mer 16 dic 2020 alle ore 08:37 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 16.12.20 um 03:15 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>
> >     I confirm that I cannot send anymore any mail to any gmail user.
> >
> >     I tried directly from gmail.com <http://gmail.com>, and didn't get
> >     an error. But I don't
> >     know if my recipient got the mail, as I can't join them easily.
> >
> >
> > At least this came through.
>
> The last bounces were this morning at 0:08. Let's see.
> They had problems with the Google account management. Also YouTube and
> other services were hit.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>

Directly from Benoit, I have not received anything.
Now I get the User Mainling List again.
Christof, thank you for everything.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From kicking177 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 10:44:20 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:44:20 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
Message-ID: <4136c3b5-8a0a-7293-fc41-3cbda7a0a824@gmail.com>


> Tobias told you to mimic the 'gb.gmp' component, because it's simpler. I
> told you about 'gb.dbus' just for the mixing of library and Gambas
> project. Otherwise 'gb.dbus' is too complex to understand by itself for
> a start.

So is gb.gmp the absolute simplest component to learn from?

Any merit in having a tutorial that uses a very simple c program to show 
how to build a gambas component for?

K.

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 10:44:05 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 10:44:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dependencies for Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <b426063c-86b4-7875-d088-470a6746aa9f@belmotek.net>
References: <b426063c-86b4-7875-d088-470a6746aa9f@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbgmv81ogvihk=MaEah-NamqBRKzYPySuQCYTH7gZZUgw@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno mer 16 dic 2020 alle ore 10:32 Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net> ha
scritto:

> Hi,
>
> I follow the dependencies indicated for install gambas in Arch linux for a
> Manjaro system but pacman don't recognize the parameter --noconfirmalure
> maybe is wrong?
>
> The copy paste from the web page [1] don't work properly because some
> missing spaces between packages names.
>
> libsmlibxcursor / pcrepkg-config / qt5-svgqt5-webkit / sdl2_netsdl2_ttf / xdg-utilszlib
>
> [1] http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html#
> Regards
>

I believe you need to download gitlab-ci.yml, copy the right libraries into
a text editor and fix the command by removing all spaces above one.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Wed Dec 16 10:59:27 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 10:59:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dependencies for Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFbgmv81ogvihk=MaEah-NamqBRKzYPySuQCYTH7gZZUgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b426063c-86b4-7875-d088-470a6746aa9f@belmotek.net>
 <CAJ2rqFbgmv81ogvihk=MaEah-NamqBRKzYPySuQCYTH7gZZUgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b3d1e80f-c6b1-fe28-bb94-269b168f48e8@belmotek.net>

Yes, you are rigth in .gitlab-ci.yml is ok.

Anyway I just advice this for the person than maintain the web page, i 
solve manually in my installation.

Regards.

On 16/12/20 10:44, Gianluigi wrote:
>
>
> Il giorno mer 16 dic 2020 alle ore 10:32 Martin 
> <mbelmonte at belmotek.net <mailto:mbelmonte at belmotek.net>> ha scritto:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I follow the dependencies indicated for install gambas in Arch
>     linux for a Manjaro system but pacman don't recognize the
>     parameter --noconfirmalure maybe is wrong?
>
>     The copy paste from the web page [1] don't work properly because
>     some missing spaces between packages names.
>
>     ||libsmlibxcursor / |pcrepkg-config / qt5-svgqt5-webkit / |||sdl2_netsdl2_ttf / |||xdg-utilszlib|
>
>     [1] http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html#
>     <http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html#>
>
>     Regards
>
>
> I believe you need to download gitlab-ci.yml, copy the right libraries 
> into a text editor and fix the command by removing all spaces above one.
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 12:35:17 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 11:35:17 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dependencies for Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <b3d1e80f-c6b1-fe28-bb94-269b168f48e8@belmotek.net>
References: <b426063c-86b4-7875-d088-470a6746aa9f@belmotek.net>
 <CAJ2rqFbgmv81ogvihk=MaEah-NamqBRKzYPySuQCYTH7gZZUgw@mail.gmail.com>
 <b3d1e80f-c6b1-fe28-bb94-269b168f48e8@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCADtM-XqPAeL027=QAN3OfX=HHb13Vmjh5Dct3vYLEDLg@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like the new function to auto-list the deps has a glitch with
linefeeds.
No doubt Ben will soon fix this. (it's a gambas function on the website not
just a page we can edit.)

Thanks for the warning.
Bruce.

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 10:00, Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net> wrote:

> Yes, you are rigth in .gitlab-ci.yml is ok.
>
> Anyway I just advice this for the person than maintain the web page, i
> solve manually in my installation.
>
> Regards.
> On 16/12/20 10:44, Gianluigi wrote:
>
>
>
> Il giorno mer 16 dic 2020 alle ore 10:32 Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net>
> ha scritto:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I follow the dependencies indicated for install gambas in Arch linux for
>> a Manjaro system but pacman don't recognize the parameter --noconfirmalure
>> maybe is wrong?
>>
>> The copy paste from the web page [1] don't work properly because some
>> missing spaces between packages names.
>>
>> libsmlibxcursor / pcrepkg-config / qt5-svgqt5-webkit / sdl2_netsdl2_ttf / xdg-utilszlib
>>
>> [1] http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html#
>> Regards
>>
>
> I believe you need to download gitlab-ci.yml, copy the right libraries
> into a text editor and fix the command by removing all spaces above one.
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 13:49:20 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 12:49:20 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <dd6b0f4c-524e-3e94-a9e5-5a074b31f312@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
 <6b323389-4e72-07cb-c376-15e131e4840d@deganius.de>
 <dd6b0f4c-524e-3e94-a9e5-5a074b31f312@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCA2XurdhSCv-Yix7_=gtpguLRpRSk31JHaX9HK9O62SWg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm gmail Ben, feel free to send me test emails.

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 01:51, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 15/12/2020 ? 23:11, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit :
> >>
> >> ....
> >
> > This for all Gmail users as I can see. Gmail has a major problem now.
> > Maybe tomorrow you'll read it in thge newspapers. I've never seen a mail
> > provider beeing as bad as this one.
> >
> > I bet this mail will be bounced also.
> >
> > Alles Gute
> >
> > Christof Thalhofer
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
>
> I confirm that I cannot send anymore any mail to any gmail user.
>
> I tried directly from gmail.com, and didn't get an error. But I don't
> know if my recipient got the mail, as I can't join them easily.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 14:28:05 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:28:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dependencies for Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <b3d1e80f-c6b1-fe28-bb94-269b168f48e8@belmotek.net>
References: <b426063c-86b4-7875-d088-470a6746aa9f@belmotek.net>
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Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFZgZ+=HQ8EZj_73zGxu9KgY=VassVJusQMuS8C9oeDBfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno mer 16 dic 2020 alle ore 11:00 Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net> ha
scritto:

> Yes, you are rigth in .gitlab-ci.yml is ok.
>
> Anyway I just advice this for the person than maintain the web page, i
> solve manually in my installation.
> Regards
>
>
ah now I understand, you were referring to this new wiki page:
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install#t8
I tried to fix it but I don't understand how it works. ?

Regards
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 14:35:51 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:35:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
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References: <4136c3b5-8a0a-7293-fc41-3cbda7a0a824@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <21007d6c-bb7e-b71d-c585-fd210186570c@gmail.com>

Le 16/12/2020 ? 10:44, KKing a ?crit :
> 
> So is gb.gmp the absolute simplest component to learn from?
> 

No, there is no "simple" component, as each library has its own
specificities. But 'gb.gmp' is less complex than 'gb.dbus'.

> Any merit in having a tutorial that uses a very simple c program to
> show how to build a gambas component for?
> 
> K.
> 

Indeed. Just a matter of time to write it!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 14:41:01 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:41:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dependencies for Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCADtM-XqPAeL027=QAN3OfX=HHb13Vmjh5Dct3vYLEDLg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b426063c-86b4-7875-d088-470a6746aa9f@belmotek.net>
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Le 16/12/2020 ? 12:35, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> Looks like the new function to auto-list the deps has a glitch with 
> linefeeds.
> No doubt Ben will soon fix this. (it's a gambas function on the website 
> not just a page we can edit.)
> 
> Thanks for the warning.
> Bruce.
> 

Oops. It should be fixed now.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 15:30:09 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:30:09 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dependencies for Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <81ffcc49-895e-0d2a-a951-a0c8cb0d3b8f@gmail.com>
References: <b426063c-86b4-7875-d088-470a6746aa9f@belmotek.net>
 <CAJ2rqFbgmv81ogvihk=MaEah-NamqBRKzYPySuQCYTH7gZZUgw@mail.gmail.com>
 <b3d1e80f-c6b1-fe28-bb94-269b168f48e8@belmotek.net>
 <CABuQYCADtM-XqPAeL027=QAN3OfX=HHb13Vmjh5Dct3vYLEDLg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCCBH-DQqUMxxQ_nvda6nLb4ohvpKpuzNB+fDNa8Nz1Mow@mail.gmail.com>

Yep, looks fine now, thank you Ben :)

Btw I'd love to monkey about with that code a bit.
I'd like to add a way of excluding certain packages and adding a
--disable-component to ./configure when calling the function.
I could then use that for things like the Raspbian page.
As Raspbian is just the Debian setup minus qtwebengine5-dev and using
./configure with --disable-qt5webview

Much respect.
BruceS

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 13:42, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 16/12/2020 ? 12:35, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > Looks like the new function to auto-list the deps has a glitch with
> > linefeeds.
> > No doubt Ben will soon fix this. (it's a gambas function on the website
> > not just a page we can edit.)
> >
> > Thanks for the warning.
> > Bruce.
> >
>
> Oops. It should be fixed now.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 15:50:19 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:50:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] About merge requests
Message-ID: <52170782-5202-d8be-18bd-76522189720e@gmail.com>

Hi,

If you make a merge request, please ensure that the merge request 
description includes a commit log that carefully follows the convention 
described in the 'README.commit' file.

This file is located at the top of the Gambas source tree.

Otherwise I have to rewrite it myself, and it takes some time.

Thanks!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From james at lixce.com  Wed Dec 16 16:04:47 2020
From: james at lixce.com (james at lixce.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:04:47 -0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Arch Manjaro install wiki page
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From pflora at libero.it  Wed Dec 16 17:45:25 2020
From: pflora at libero.it (pflora at libero.it)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 19:45:25 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?utf-8?q?Stack_smashing_detected?=
Message-ID: <1608137125.170028376@f6.my.com>



I freshly installed gambas 3 from ppa:gambas-team on lubuntu 18.04 lts 32 bit.
Application crashes with message:
Stack smashing detected <unknown> terminated.
Before in the same computer It was running with Mint. Now I installed lubuntu.
I don't know which release of gambas as It never starts.
In the header of the programm I can read 3.15.90
How can I solve this ?
Thank you
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 18:03:13 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 18:03:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] VariadicFunction to understand extra arguments
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>

I have added to the Farm an example (VariadicFunction) which I hope will be
useful in understanding the extra arguments.
Obviously as long as I have understood this well. ?
I communicate this because in the wiki (
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/methoddecl) the explanation of the extra
arguments seems very confusing. ?
I ask an English-speaking colleague if he can intervene.

Thank you

Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 18:34:25 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 17:34:25 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] VariadicFunction to understand extra arguments
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCD_XUjLjjzT1s3217zDKokJFGuTcqt1fFLrjpOJ6w_EKw@mail.gmail.com>

You will find it confusing of you think the "..." keyword is a "variadic
function" by standard definitions.

It is not, it is just a keyword to pass arguments through one function to
another. The "..." object/keyword cannot be accessed like a variadic one
can.

It will not work the same way a typical "variadic function" does.

I thought the wiki info quite explanatory.

BruceS

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020, 17:04 Gianluigi, <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have added to the Farm an example (VariadicFunction) which I hope will
> be useful in understanding the extra arguments.
> Obviously as long as I have understood this well. ?
> I communicate this because in the wiki (
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/methoddecl) the explanation of the extra
> arguments seems very confusing. ?
> I ask an English-speaking colleague if he can intervene.
>
> Thank you
>
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 18:50:28 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 17:50:28 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] VariadicFunction to understand extra arguments
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCD_XUjLjjzT1s3217zDKokJFGuTcqt1fFLrjpOJ6w_EKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCD4bzQCJJV18iuvjfBJb_9r11D8YFu0iR=6FDkwmtT5VA@mail.gmail.com>

Wait , strike me down centurion lol.

I have been mistaken here i think.
Very mistaken and i apologize.
I had not realized the Param class, this changes everything.
(on the wiki the part about Param was displayed in the previous section
about the "Optional" keyword so i had missed it)

Nice example thank you.
I'll try to make the wiki more descriptive...

BruceS


On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 17:34, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You will find it confusing of you think the "..." keyword is a "variadic
> function" by standard definitions.
>
> It is not, it is just a keyword to pass arguments through one function to
> another. The "..." object/keyword cannot be accessed like a variadic one
> can.
>
> It will not work the same way a typical "variadic function" does.
>
> I thought the wiki info quite explanatory.
>
> BruceS
>
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020, 17:04 Gianluigi, <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have added to the Farm an example (VariadicFunction) which I hope will
>> be useful in understanding the extra arguments.
>> Obviously as long as I have understood this well. ?
>> I communicate this because in the wiki (
>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/methoddecl) the explanation of the extra
>> arguments seems very confusing. ?
>> I ask an English-speaking colleague if he can intervene.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Gianluigi
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 19:07:14 2020
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 20:07:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] VariadicFunction to understand extra arguments
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7RjeX1ZU2S4sbrpWvB+vWnayZ5SU=mAO_UkNDe=_AKoHQ@mail.gmail.com>

It's quite simple. If the function/method uses "..." in the argument
declaration, then you can see the arguments by iterating:
For Each hVariant In Param
Or as an array:
Param.All[iIndex]


Jussi


On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 7:04 PM Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have added to the Farm an example (VariadicFunction) which I hope will
> be useful in understanding the extra arguments.
> Obviously as long as I have understood this well. ?
> I communicate this because in the wiki (
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/methoddecl) the explanation of the extra
> arguments seems very confusing. ?
> I ask an English-speaking colleague if he can intervene.
>
> Thank you
>
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 19:28:55 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 19:28:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] VariadicFunction to understand extra arguments
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7RjeX1ZU2S4sbrpWvB+vWnayZ5SU=mAO_UkNDe=_AKoHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFZ76kAMAa-BngttO2Y6mvHmps2eUo9hi0Ry715c4Pr=gQ@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno mer 16 dic 2020 alle ore 19:08 Jussi Lahtinen <
jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> It's quite simple. If the function/method uses "..." in the argument
> declaration, then you can see the arguments by iterating:
> For Each hVariant In Param
> Or as an array:
> Param.All[iIndex]
>

Yes Jussi,

in my example of course there is that but also something more, just
download it and take a look.

I forgot the goat :-)

Regards
Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Dec 16 19:38:54 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 19:38:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
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Am 16.12.20 um 10:32 schrieb Gianluigi:

> Directly from Benoit, I have not received anything.
> Now I get the User Mainling List again.

Yes, you probably did not get my answer. If you're in doubt you can
always have a look at the list's archive:

https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/

> Christof, thank you for everything.

You're welcome. :-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 19:47:41 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 18:47:41 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] VariadicFunction to understand extra arguments
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCALRGQd_0qw7PcOYRe483LHaPJXvB+CrX3j7H3d3xD9uA@mail.gmail.com>

I expanded the wiki simple example a bit to include using '...' to pass
arguments and also using as varadic.

Cheers for the nudge.

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 17:04, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have added to the Farm an example (VariadicFunction) which I hope will
> be useful in understanding the extra arguments.
> Obviously as long as I have understood this well. ?
> I communicate this because in the wiki (
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/methoddecl) the explanation of the extra
> arguments seems very confusing. ?
> I ask an English-speaking colleague if he can intervene.
>
> Thank you
>
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 19:55:05 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 19:55:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stack smashing detected
In-Reply-To: <1608137125.170028376@f6.my.com>
References: <1608137125.170028376@f6.my.com>
Message-ID: <e41ad4ac-04be-7ffa-ea33-f95b3643e2cb@gmail.com>

Le 16/12/2020 ? 17:45, pinglix via User a ?crit?:
> 
> I freshly installed gambas 3 from ppa:gambas-team on lubuntu 18.04 lts 
> 32 bit.
> 
> Application crashes with message:
> 
> Stack smashing detected <unknown> terminated.
> 

This has been fixed in the development version four days ago.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 20:01:13 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 20:01:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] VariadicFunction to understand extra arguments
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Il giorno mer 16 dic 2020 alle ore 19:48 Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> I expanded the wiki simple example a bit to include using '...' to pass
> arguments and also using as varadic.
>
> Cheers for the nudge.
>
>
Thanks to you and greetings ?

Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 20:21:04 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 19:21:04 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] VariadicFunction to understand extra arguments
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBVaiydRriYbjnvAxSu9HGDvXce1Xxk8t1wNzHYL_wpiw@mail.gmail.com>

> I ask an English-speaking colleague if he can intervene.
>
> Thank you
>

Your English is pretty good :)
All i would say is the line...
#Error: The expected data by the function are in a different number
does not read right.
would be simpler to write.
Print "#Error: Wrong number of arguments."
or even better..
    Print ("#Error: " & IIf(Param.Count < value, "Not enough", "Too many")
& " arguments!")

Just that and you have flotting instead of floating.

otherwise perfect :)
Thanks again.
BruceS
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Wed Dec 16 23:45:03 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 23:45:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <1396f201-b772-21cb-a246-65c9d70cc13c@gmail.com>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
 <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>
 <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>
 <a2cab377-cf51-cbcf-cb8a-9154e17a0399@belmotek.net>
 <1396f201-b772-21cb-a246-65c9d70cc13c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aa17d25e-5035-ea55-a266-3b13e08bc14c@belmotek.net>

Hello,
I configured a virtual machine with manjaro 20, installed all the 
dependencies for Arch, downloaded the gambas source code, created the 
component with a template and executed the pertinent commands so that 
the structure was created, then overwritten the files from the 
gambas-bindings project and edit the files configure.ac and makefile.am 
the interface c_dwg.c copy it from the repo.
Finally make && sudo make install
Gambas now works on the system but the gb.dwg component is not listed
I accept help :-)

The code is here:

https://github.com/belmotek/gb.dwg

Thanks a lot

Mart?n Belmonte.

On 15/12/20 13:18, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 15/12/2020 ? 11:10, Martin a ?crit?:
>> ok, the component structure is already created, and I have copied and 
>> overwritten the files with the libredwg/gambas-bindings3 project [1]
>> I am looking, as an example, at the gb.dbus component and in this 
>> there is a file called c_dbus.h in dwg I suppose its equivalent is 
>> c_dwg.h but both differ since they have considerable differences.
>> In gb.dbus there is also a gambas project (a directory) called 
>> gb.dbus and this is what is missing in the dwg component, correct?
>> Well, now the system does not have shrimp of any version installed, 
>> since I am going to install the development version with the 
>> component that I am trying to create. But to create the "gambas" part 
>> of the component I have to use gambas that doesn't exist in the 
>> system yet, so it looks like a uroboro.
>>
>> So, wich is the correct system setup in order to develop a component?
>>
>> What is the minimum I could do with c_dwg.h [2] ? and... how to do that?
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings
>>
>> [2] https://github.com/LibreDWG/gambas3-bindings/blob/master/src/c_dwg.h
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mart?n Belmonte.
>>
>
> Having a gambas part in a component is only automatically managed 
> -inside- the Gambas source tree, as this management is done by the 
> autoconf configuration.
>
> If you develop the component outside of Gambas source tree, you have 
> to mimic that autoconf configuration. As I told before, it's just 
> having a Gambas project having the same name as the component, and 
> installing the executable ("gb.dwg.gambas") in the same directory as 
> the binary library file ("/usr/lib/gambas3/gb.dwg.so").
>
> Tobias told you to mimic the 'gb.gmp' component, because it's simpler. 
> I told you about 'gb.dbus' just for the mixing of library and Gambas 
> project. Otherwise 'gb.dbus' is too complex to understand by itself 
> for a start.
>
> Regards,
>
>

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 00:00:16 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 00:00:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] VariadicFunction to understand extra arguments
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBVaiydRriYbjnvAxSu9HGDvXce1Xxk8t1wNzHYL_wpiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFbfpsL7FuDKMQ0iYqwm=OcSZhN=S9mqp8H8_tB+5YQ5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCBVaiydRriYbjnvAxSu9HGDvXce1Xxk8t1wNzHYL_wpiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbcan6Rtt-BbtCotWW0d2=wicr6=4GTsy+UmKChHHavgg@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno mer 16 dic 2020 alle ore 20:22 Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

>
> Your English is pretty good :)
> All i would say is the line...
> #Error: The expected data by the function are in a different number
> does not read right.
> would be simpler to write.
> Print "#Error: Wrong number of arguments."
> or even better..
>     Print ("#Error: " & IIf(Param.Count < value, "Not enough", "Too many")
> & " arguments!")
>
> Just that and you have flotting instead of floating.
>
> otherwise perfect :)
> Thanks again.
> BruceS
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for the suggestions, I implemented them and added you as an author.
:-P

Regards
Gianluigi
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 01:45:41 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 01:45:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <aa17d25e-5035-ea55-a266-3b13e08bc14c@belmotek.net>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
 <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>
 <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>
 <a2cab377-cf51-cbcf-cb8a-9154e17a0399@belmotek.net>
 <1396f201-b772-21cb-a246-65c9d70cc13c@gmail.com>
 <aa17d25e-5035-ea55-a266-3b13e08bc14c@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <2491c9a3-410e-cd68-a47c-7fd8f4d8a436@gmail.com>

Le 16/12/2020 ? 23:45, Martin a ?crit?:
> Hello,
> I configured a virtual machine with manjaro 20, installed all the 
> dependencies for Arch, downloaded the gambas source code, created the 
> component with a template and executed the pertinent commands so that 
> the structure was created, then overwritten the files from the 
> gambas-bindings project and edit the files configure.ac and makefile.am 
> the interface c_dwg.c copy it from the repo.
> Finally make && sudo make install
> Gambas now works on the system but the gb.dwg component is not listed
> I accept help :-)
> 
> The code is here:
> 
> https://github.com/belmotek/gb.dwg
> 
> Thanks a lot
> 
> Mart?n Belmonte.
> 

Are the 'gb.dwg.so' and 'gb.dwg.component' file installed where they 
should be? I.e. with the other components.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Thu Dec 17 09:28:48 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:28:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <2491c9a3-410e-cd68-a47c-7fd8f4d8a436@gmail.com>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
 <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>
 <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>
 <a2cab377-cf51-cbcf-cb8a-9154e17a0399@belmotek.net>
 <1396f201-b772-21cb-a246-65c9d70cc13c@gmail.com>
 <aa17d25e-5035-ea55-a266-3b13e08bc14c@belmotek.net>
 <2491c9a3-410e-cd68-a47c-7fd8f4d8a436@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2dcdc07b-c34c-ed2a-558f-adbe18fb5e10@belmotek.net>

The 'gb.dwg.so' and 'gb.dwg.component' files are not in .libs or 
anywhere else even .libs is completely empty.

Regards

On 17/12/20 1:45, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 16/12/2020 ? 23:45, Martin a ?crit?:
>> Hello,
>> I configured a virtual machine with manjaro 20, installed all the 
>> dependencies for Arch, downloaded the gambas source code, created the 
>> component with a template and executed the pertinent commands so that 
>> the structure was created, then overwritten the files from the 
>> gambas-bindings project and edit the files configure.ac and 
>> makefile.am the interface c_dwg.c copy it from the repo.
>> Finally make && sudo make install
>> Gambas now works on the system but the gb.dwg component is not listed
>> I accept help :-)
>>
>> The code is here:
>>
>> https://github.com/belmotek/gb.dwg
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>>
>> Mart?n Belmonte.
>>
>
> Are the 'gb.dwg.so' and 'gb.dwg.component' file installed where they 
> should be? I.e. with the other components.
>

From ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com  Thu Dec 17 11:10:18 2020
From: ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:10:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <fefac9d4-2624-5afa-0b5f-a5720951f6f2@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
 <6b323389-4e72-07cb-c376-15e131e4840d@deganius.de>
 <dd6b0f4c-524e-3e94-a9e5-5a074b31f312@gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7QLy8HQAGDyL34WpUUDEG7YkP4x-noc+z2CRN7XvpQxjA@mail.gmail.com>
 <fefac9d4-2624-5afa-0b5f-a5720951f6f2@deganius.de>
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El 16/12/20 a las 08:36, Christof Thalhofer escribi?:
> 
> The last bounces were this morning at 0:08. Let's see.
> They had problems with the Google account management. Also YouTube and
> other services were hit.

Still they have some issues...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/googles-gmail-faces-service-disruptions-again-11608074417

Regards

Jesus

From ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com  Thu Dec 17 11:21:12 2020
From: ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:21:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <fefac9d4-2624-5afa-0b5f-a5720951f6f2@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
 <6b323389-4e72-07cb-c376-15e131e4840d@deganius.de>
 <dd6b0f4c-524e-3e94-a9e5-5a074b31f312@gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7QLy8HQAGDyL34WpUUDEG7YkP4x-noc+z2CRN7XvpQxjA@mail.gmail.com>
 <fefac9d4-2624-5afa-0b5f-a5720951f6f2@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <72d47ff3-29c8-c2ec-6560-e38aa94f097f@ea7dfh.com>

El 16/12/20 a las 08:36, Christof Thalhofer escribi?:

> The last bounces were this morning at 0:08. Let's see.

And also here some users complaining:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/kecgd3/is_anyone_else_not_receiving_certain_emails_from/


But I have to say that I'm not using gmail for my subscription to this 
list and I'm experiencing long delays until my message shows up in the 
list. My two cents

Thank you also for your hard work maintaining the list, Christof.

Regards

Jesus

From sharon at 455.co.il  Thu Dec 17 12:26:03 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:26:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Send file to client using gb.web.gui
Message-ID: <20201217112446.M7416@455.co.il>

Hello

How to send a file to a client using gb.web.gui
I saw that there are:
Response.SendFile ("my_file.pdf", "application / pdf")

It freezes the page and does not send the file.

I tried running the command using gb.web
And it displays all the characters of the PDF file on the client page
I want the client to download the file to  computer.

Thank you

From chrisml at deganius.de  Thu Dec 17 13:10:36 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:10:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <72d47ff3-29c8-c2ec-6560-e38aa94f097f@ea7dfh.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
 <6b323389-4e72-07cb-c376-15e131e4840d@deganius.de>
 <dd6b0f4c-524e-3e94-a9e5-5a074b31f312@gmail.com>
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Am 17.12.20 um 11:21 schrieb Jesus Guardon:

> But I have to say that I'm not using gmail for my subscription to this 
> list and I'm experiencing long delays until my message shows up in the 
> list. My two cents

The ML should send it within one minute as soon as it gets it.

You can look at the 'Received:' tags in the headers of the mail to
detect where it hung. They have to be read from bottom to top, for
example this are the tags in the mail you sent to the ML and the ML sent
to my mailserver (11:21:12 until 11:22:03):

> Delivered-To: chrisml at deganius.de
> Received: from degmail.deganius.de
> 	by degserv.wacker.deganius.de with POP3 (fetchmail-6.4.0.beta4)
> 	for <chrisml at degserv> (single-drop); Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:22:03 +0100 (CET)
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> 	(No client certificate requested)
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> Thank you also for your hard work maintaining the list, Christof.

You're welcome. :-)

Alles Gute

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From ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com  Thu Dec 17 13:54:11 2020
From: ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:54:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <6976537c-fa70-6259-2392-5cbb4cf43dc0@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
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El 17/12/20 a las 13:10, Christof Thalhofer escribi?:

> You can look at the 'Received:' tags in the headers of the mail to
> detect where it hung. They have to be read from bottom to top, for
> example this are the tags in the mail you sent to the ML and the ML sent
> to my mailserver (11:21:12 until 11:22:03):

Yes, that one was fast. But the first one I sent not, seems like the 
greylist check delayed it for some time (about 10 minutes). Here it is, 
stripped out non relevant parts:

==============================snip=======================================
 From - Thu Dec 17 11:20:08 2020

Received: from mail-ha-01.scip.local ([172.21.33.147])
	by mail-node-imap-mpo20-00.scip.local with LMTP
	id 7OWZE9Yw21/yEQAAQ/gJ6g
	(envelope-from <user-bounces at lists.gambas-basic.org>)
	for <e**@ea**h.com>; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:20:06 +0100
Received: from bmailout3.hostsharing.net (bmailout3.hostsharing.net 
[176.9.242.62])
	(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
	(No client certificate requested)
	by mail-node.dondominio.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08F1240903
	for <**@ea7**h.com>; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:20:05 +0100 (CET)

X-Greylist: delayed 534 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at mail1;
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======================================================================

Perhaps, greylist delays addresses that didn't post in a while and 
subsequent messages are not delayed.

Thanks again for your time

Regards,

Jesus

From chrisml at deganius.de  Thu Dec 17 16:04:42 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 16:04:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <7de3e472-c761-a35a-6742-1fdcb85265f5@ea7dfh.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
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Am 17.12.20 um 13:54 schrieb Jesus Guardon:

> Yes, that one was fast. But the first one I sent not, seems like the 
> greylist check delayed it for some time (about 10 minutes). Here it is, 
> stripped out non relevant parts:

Ah ok. Yes the first mail you send has to go through the greylist check
once and then never again. As soon as your address is registered, the
mail will be delivered immediately. I always forget about it ... ;-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 17:41:39 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 16:41:39 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] About merge requests
In-Reply-To: <52170782-5202-d8be-18bd-76522189720e@gmail.com>
References: <52170782-5202-d8be-18bd-76522189720e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAAoPD8YA8tghkt3c3Cw3mqOD=kFc9Yj-tRU-KTwf_xag@mail.gmail.com>

I have to ask Ben are mine okay?
I believe i am doing it correctly now after studying the instructions and
seeing your commit messages.

Thought it best to check just in case i've still not got it right.
BruceS

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 14:51, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If you make a merge request, please ensure that the merge request
> description includes a commit log that carefully follows the convention
> described in the 'README.commit' file.
>
> This file is located at the top of the Gambas source tree.
>
> Otherwise I have to rewrite it myself, and it takes some time.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Fri Dec 18 00:40:43 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 00:40:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <2dcdc07b-c34c-ed2a-558f-adbe18fb5e10@belmotek.net>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
 <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>
 <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>
 <a2cab377-cf51-cbcf-cb8a-9154e17a0399@belmotek.net>
 <1396f201-b772-21cb-a246-65c9d70cc13c@gmail.com>
 <aa17d25e-5035-ea55-a266-3b13e08bc14c@belmotek.net>
 <2491c9a3-410e-cd68-a47c-7fd8f4d8a436@gmail.com>
 <2dcdc07b-c34c-ed2a-558f-adbe18fb5e10@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <09dc2039-9aa7-17bd-1154-b013516b2e26@belmotek.net>

I did everything again from a new template and delete the directory 
created before (gb.dwg) when I do ./reconf at the end of the process it 
tells me that the component is disabled because it cannot find c_dwg.h, 
but it does. Did I forget to indicate it somewhere?

Martin

On 17/12/20 9:28, Martin wrote:
> The 'gb.dwg.so' and 'gb.dwg.component' files are not in .libs or 
> anywhere else even .libs is completely empty.
>
> Regards
>
> On 17/12/20 1:45, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> Le 16/12/2020 ? 23:45, Martin a ?crit?:
>>> Hello,
>>> I configured a virtual machine with manjaro 20, installed all the 
>>> dependencies for Arch, downloaded the gambas source code, created 
>>> the component with a template and executed the pertinent commands so 
>>> that the structure was created, then overwritten the files from the 
>>> gambas-bindings project and edit the files configure.ac and 
>>> makefile.am the interface c_dwg.c copy it from the repo.
>>> Finally make && sudo make install
>>> Gambas now works on the system but the gb.dwg component is not listed
>>> I accept help :-)
>>>
>>> The code is here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/belmotek/gb.dwg
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot
>>>
>>> Mart?n Belmonte.
>>>
>>
>> Are the 'gb.dwg.so' and 'gb.dwg.component' file installed where they 
>> should be? I.e. with the other components.
>>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 01:19:47 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 01:19:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <09dc2039-9aa7-17bd-1154-b013516b2e26@belmotek.net>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
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 <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>
 <a2cab377-cf51-cbcf-cb8a-9154e17a0399@belmotek.net>
 <1396f201-b772-21cb-a246-65c9d70cc13c@gmail.com>
 <aa17d25e-5035-ea55-a266-3b13e08bc14c@belmotek.net>
 <2491c9a3-410e-cd68-a47c-7fd8f4d8a436@gmail.com>
 <2dcdc07b-c34c-ed2a-558f-adbe18fb5e10@belmotek.net>
 <09dc2039-9aa7-17bd-1154-b013516b2e26@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <4919fe6a-22fc-f11a-e2f2-3a69daa923a7@gmail.com>

Le 18/12/2020 ? 00:40, Martin a ?crit?:
> I did everything again from a new template and delete the directory 
> created before (gb.dwg) when I do ./reconf at the end of the process it 
> tells me that the component is disabled because it cannot find c_dwg.h, 
> but it does. Did I forget to indicate it somewhere?
> 
> Martin
> 

I strongly suggest that, if libredgw relies on 'pkg-config', that you 
rewrite your 'configure.ac' file following the one of the 'gb.poppler' 
component.

You are at the moment using the autoconf macros made for searching 
directories from specific files, but I made macros for using 
'pkg-config' too. They are simpler to use.

Then, as for the location of 'gb.dwg.so' and 'gb.dwg.component', I was 
talking about the location of their installation (normally 
'/usr/lib/gambas3'). This is where the IDE searches for components.

Regards,


-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Fri Dec 18 10:09:32 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 10:09:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <4919fe6a-22fc-f11a-e2f2-3a69daa923a7@gmail.com>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
 <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>
 <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>
 <a2cab377-cf51-cbcf-cb8a-9154e17a0399@belmotek.net>
 <1396f201-b772-21cb-a246-65c9d70cc13c@gmail.com>
 <aa17d25e-5035-ea55-a266-3b13e08bc14c@belmotek.net>
 <2491c9a3-410e-cd68-a47c-7fd8f4d8a436@gmail.com>
 <2dcdc07b-c34c-ed2a-558f-adbe18fb5e10@belmotek.net>
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Message-ID: <5a023abc-d986-aaaf-474c-e2867004d112@belmotek.net>

ok, I try to use some similar poppler, it doesn't work. then I try 
coping the configure.ac from Reini bindings, it doesn't neither, even I 
change many options also run 'relink.sh' nothing seems to work. I show 
the outputs of a few tries.

|| Unable to met pkg-config requirement: libredwg >= 0.10.0
|| gb.dwg is disabled

|| Unable to met pkg-config requirement: libredwg >= 0.0.11
|| gb.dwg is disabled

|| Unable to met pkg-config requirement: libredwg >= 0.0.11
|| gb.dwg is disabled

Regards

On 18/12/20 1:19, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 18/12/2020 ? 00:40, Martin a ?crit?:
>> I did everything again from a new template and delete the directory 
>> created before (gb.dwg) when I do ./reconf at the end of the process 
>> it tells me that the component is disabled because it cannot find 
>> c_dwg.h, but it does. Did I forget to indicate it somewhere?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>
> I strongly suggest that, if libredgw relies on 'pkg-config', that you 
> rewrite your 'configure.ac' file following the one of the 'gb.poppler' 
> component.
>
> You are at the moment using the autoconf macros made for searching 
> directories from specific files, but I made macros for using 
> 'pkg-config' too. They are simpler to use.
>
> Then, as for the location of 'gb.dwg.so' and 'gb.dwg.component', I was 
> talking about the location of their installation (normally 
> '/usr/lib/gambas3'). This is where the IDE searches for components.
>
> Regards,
>
>

From kicking177 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 16:53:57 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 15:53:57 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Shortcut key issue
Message-ID: <7f1b75e9-491e-50cc-3384-4ba2f10c5cbe@gmail.com>

So I want a user to be able to jump to certain textboxes using shortcut 
keys. I can get it to work the first time but subsequent requests appear 
to be ignored?

I've prepared a simple test which has the following

> Public Sub Form_KeyPress()
> ? If Key.Alt Then
> ??? If Key.Code = 65 Then
> ????? TextBox1.SetFocus
> ??? Endif
> ??? If Key.Code = 66 Then
> ????? TextBox2.SetFocus
> ??? Endif
> ? Endif
> End

When I Alt+A it jumps to TextBox1 as desired, but if I then Alt+B it 
doesn't move to TextBox2.
If I kill the program and start again and do Alt+B it moves to TextBox2 
as desired but if I then Alt+A it does nothing.

This is on Deb10 with LXDE using G 3.12.2


From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 16:59:40 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 16:59:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Shortcut key issue
In-Reply-To: <7f1b75e9-491e-50cc-3384-4ba2f10c5cbe@gmail.com>
References: <7f1b75e9-491e-50cc-3384-4ba2f10c5cbe@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <014851dd-bf29-eb0d-ba81-2224699eb99d@gmail.com>

Le 18/12/2020 ? 16:53, KKing a ?crit?:
> So I want a user to be able to jump to certain textboxes using shortcut 
> keys. I can get it to work the first time but subsequent requests appear 
> to be ignored?
> 
> I've prepared a simple test which has the following
> 
>> Public Sub Form_KeyPress()
>> ? If Key.Alt Then
>> ??? If Key.Code = 65 Then
>> ????? TextBox1.SetFocus
>> ??? Endif
>> ??? If Key.Code = 66 Then
>> ????? TextBox2.SetFocus
>> ??? Endif
>> ? Endif
>> End
> 
> When I Alt+A it jumps to TextBox1 as desired, but if I then Alt+B it 
> doesn't move to TextBox2.
> If I kill the program and start again and do Alt+B it moves to TextBox2 
> as desired but if I then Alt+A it does nothing.
> 
> This is on Deb10 with LXDE using G 3.12.2
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

Please post a project.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 22:16:50 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 22:16:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Use a class as a function
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYmKcobxQOxp74Sg2P=dSmKt-3LW7K8FF49nwTQ3muwRA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

could this example help to understand _call() method  and also the "..."
keyword?

[code]----------------------------------------
' Gambas module file

Public Sub Main()

  Dim Operations As New CMath

  Print Operations(Operations.Addition, 1.2, 2.0, 3.55, 4.0, 5.12)
  Print Operations(Operations.Subtraction, 12345.02, 45.5, 67.31, 890.12,
543.0, 987.09, 345.13, 123.56, 4567.0)
  Print Operations(Operations.Multiplication, 32, 64, 12, 21)
  Print Operations(Operations.Division, 1234, 56, 78, 93, 4)

End
---------------------------------------------
' Gambas class file

Public Enum Addition = 1, Subtraction, Multiplication, Division

Public Sub _call(Operator As Integer, ...) As Variant

  Dim v As Variant = Param.All
  Dim i, iType As Integer
  Dim vResult As Variant = 0

  If Param.Count = 0 Then Return
  iType = TypeOf(v[0])
  If iType = 4 Then
    CLong(vResult)
  Else If iType = 7 Then
    CFloat(vResult)
  Else
    Debug "#Warning: Numbers must be entered"
    Return
  Endif
  For i = 0 To Param.Max
    If TypeOf(v[i]) <> iType Then
      Debug "#Warning: Impossible to operate on different types of data"
      Return
    Endif
  Next
  Select Case Operator
    Case 1 ' Addition
      For i = 0 To Param.Max
        vResult += v[i]
      Next
      Return vResult
    Case 2 ' Subtraction
      vResult = v[0]
      For i = 1 To Param.Max
        vResult -= v[i]
      Next
      Return vResult
    Case 3 ' Multiplication
      vResult = v[0]
      For i = 1 To Param.Max
        vResult *= v[i]
      Next
      Return vResult
    Case 4 ' Division
      vResult = v[0]
      For i = 1 To Param.Max
        Try vResult /= v[i]
        If Error Then
          Debug "#Error :"; Error.Text
          Return
        Endif
      Next
      Return vResult
  End Select

End
[/code]----------------------------------------

Thank you and regards

Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 22:35:37 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 22:35:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <7de3e472-c761-a35a-6742-1fdcb85265f5@ea7dfh.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFYWk1rYWQ6rQ5aO_Gbpk2Pv7sGAbwFQR8RfwXTnQ7+yqg@mail.gmail.com>
 <6b323389-4e72-07cb-c376-15e131e4840d@deganius.de>
 <dd6b0f4c-524e-3e94-a9e5-5a074b31f312@gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7QLy8HQAGDyL34WpUUDEG7YkP4x-noc+z2CRN7XvpQxjA@mail.gmail.com>
 <fefac9d4-2624-5afa-0b5f-a5720951f6f2@deganius.de>
 <72d47ff3-29c8-c2ec-6560-e38aa94f097f@ea7dfh.com>
 <6976537c-fa70-6259-2392-5cbb4cf43dc0@deganius.de>
 <7de3e472-c761-a35a-6742-1fdcb85265f5@ea7dfh.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYDmApLw-mktR3wM9TK7o=Y9rKpd1MRy7LnudUKCf45Ww@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Christof,

the last email appeared regularly (a few seconds) in the archive but gmail
took 5 minutes to communicate it and that's fine for me.
Instead this afternoon around 16 Italian time there was a blackout of about
2 hours or more.

This is for your knowledge only.

Greetings

Gianluigi
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From dosida at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 22:49:14 2020
From: dosida at gmail.com (Dimitris Anogiatis)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 14:49:14 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Shortcut key issue
In-Reply-To: <014851dd-bf29-eb0d-ba81-2224699eb99d@gmail.com>
References: <7f1b75e9-491e-50cc-3384-4ba2f10c5cbe@gmail.com>
 <014851dd-bf29-eb0d-ba81-2224699eb99d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACMvmEDNxyng1uz+RjL5U7=osDi8J32__JyyAfeZbtdJ-5FGhQ@mail.gmail.com>

It make sense because you're shifting focus from the form object to the
textbox objects. In order to jump from textbox B from textbox A you have to
have the same code in the textbox A's keypress event.

Try this:

After you press Alt-A click on somewhere in the form (in the actual form
not another control) and press Alt-B.
Does it jump to Textbox B now?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 9:00 AM Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 18/12/2020 ? 16:53, KKing a ?crit :
> > So I want a user to be able to jump to certain textboxes using shortcut
> > keys. I can get it to work the first time but subsequent requests appear
> > to be ignored?
> >
> > I've prepared a simple test which has the following
> >
> >> Public Sub Form_KeyPress()
> >>   If Key.Alt Then
> >>     If Key.Code = 65 Then
> >>       TextBox1.SetFocus
> >>     Endif
> >>     If Key.Code = 66 Then
> >>       TextBox2.SetFocus
> >>     Endif
> >>   Endif
> >> End
> >
> > When I Alt+A it jumps to TextBox1 as desired, but if I then Alt+B it
> > doesn't move to TextBox2.
> > If I kill the program and start again and do Alt+B it moves to TextBox2
> > as desired but if I then Alt+A it does nothing.
> >
> > This is on Deb10 with LXDE using G 3.12.2
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> Please post a project.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 01:34:41 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 00:34:41 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu Hirsute Hippo 21.04
Message-ID: <CABuQYCB2EnZYYPALoRiy43e-wv0PKtUxedZw+yAxWMbKQQBdnw@mail.gmail.com>

Ubuntu 21.04 is now available if you didn't know.

I downloaded it here...
https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/current/

Latest daily builds, official release date is April 22, 2021.
My flavour is MATE desktop and I'm using it now.
Install was a pain as i had no EFI drive , but i figured that out.

Repo Gambas was 3.15.1

Dependency issues for compile compared to ubuntu-latest (focal) ...
libgmime2.6-dev non existent , libgmime3.0-dev works fine
postgresql-server-dev-12, no must be postgresql-server-dev-13
or postgresql-server-dev-all ?

so this from my branches gitlab.ci file ...

apt-get install -y build-essential g++ automake autoconf libtool libbz2-dev
libmysqlclient-dev unixodbc-dev libpq-dev postgresql-server-dev-13
libsqlite0-dev libsqlite3-dev libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev
libcurl4-gnutls-dev libgtkglext1-dev libpcre3-dev libsdl-sound1.2-dev
libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libxml2-dev libxslt1-dev
librsvg2-dev libpoppler-dev libpoppler-private-dev libpoppler-glib-dev
libpoppler-cpp-dev libasound2-dev libdirectfb-dev libxtst-dev libffi-dev
libglew-dev libimlib2-dev libv4l-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev
linux-libc-dev libgstreamer1.0-dev libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-dev
libcairo2-dev libgsl-dev libncurses5-dev libgmime-3.0-dev llvm-dev llvm
libalure-dev libgmp-dev libgtk-3-dev libsdl2-dev libsdl2-mixer-dev
libsdl2-ttf-dev libsdl2-image-dev sane-utils libdumb1-dev libssl-dev
libqt5opengl5-dev libqt5svg5-dev libqt5webkit5-dev libqt5x11extras5-dev
qtbase5-dev qtwebengine5-dev libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev git

And then All components compiled and installed okay.

BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 01:41:59 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 00:41:59 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu Hirsute Hippo 21.04
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCB2EnZYYPALoRiy43e-wv0PKtUxedZw+yAxWMbKQQBdnw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCB2EnZYYPALoRiy43e-wv0PKtUxedZw+yAxWMbKQQBdnw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBhVxANLFd3VWnRgZFBs68w3RAvEbkwgrzvPWC5K+aR4g@mail.gmail.com>

Benoit.
I do not know if this info is useful to you so here it is anyway...
compilation output (./configure had -q option so no 'checking' output)
(attached in file)

My System Info from Gambas IDE...
[System]
Gambas=3.15.90 fcf607cba (bruces-patched)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=5.8.0-25-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu Hirsute Hippo (development branch)
Desktop=MATE
Theme=ambiant-mate
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=7948M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11600.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.6.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.13
GDK2=libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GDK3=libgdk-3.so.0.2404.19
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1802.0
GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2404.19
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.7.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.102.0.0
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.15.2
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6

[Environment]
COMPIZ_CONFIG_PROFILE=mate
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
DESKTOP_SESSION=mate
DISPLAY=:0
GB_GUI=gb.gtk3
GDMSESSION=mate
GDM_LANG=en_GB
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=/usr/share/applications/gambas3.desktop
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=167914
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
GTK_MODULES=appmenu-gtk-module:gail:atk-bridge:canberra-gtk-module
GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0
HOME=<home>
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8
LOGNAME=<user>
MATE_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin
PWD=<home>
QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0
QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2
QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1
SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/1620,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1620
SHELL=/bin/bash
SHLVL=0
SSH_AGENT_PID=1800
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
TZ=:/etc/localtime
UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=1
USER=<user>
XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-mate:/etc/xdg
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=MATE
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/mate:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/var/lib/snapd/desktop
XDG_GREETER_DATA_DIR=/var/lib/lightdm-data/<user>
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=mate
XDG_SESSION_ID=c1
XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
XDG_VTNR=7

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 00:34, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ubuntu 21.04 is now available if you didn't know.
>
> I downloaded it here...
> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/current/
>
> Latest daily builds, official release date is April 22, 2021.
> My flavour is MATE desktop and I'm using it now.
> Install was a pain as i had no EFI drive , but i figured that out.
>
> Repo Gambas was 3.15.1
>
> Dependency issues for compile compared to ubuntu-latest (focal) ...
> libgmime2.6-dev non existent , libgmime3.0-dev works fine
> postgresql-server-dev-12, no must be postgresql-server-dev-13
> or postgresql-server-dev-all ?
>
> so this from my branches gitlab.ci file ...
>
> apt-get install -y build-essential g++ automake autoconf libtool
> libbz2-dev libmysqlclient-dev unixodbc-dev libpq-dev
> postgresql-server-dev-13 libsqlite0-dev libsqlite3-dev libglib2.0-dev
> libgtk2.0-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libgtkglext1-dev libpcre3-dev
> libsdl-sound1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libxml2-dev
> libxslt1-dev librsvg2-dev libpoppler-dev libpoppler-private-dev
> libpoppler-glib-dev libpoppler-cpp-dev libasound2-dev libdirectfb-dev
> libxtst-dev libffi-dev libglew-dev libimlib2-dev libv4l-dev
> libsdl-ttf2.0-dev libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev linux-libc-dev libgstreamer1.0-dev
> libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-dev libcairo2-dev libgsl-dev libncurses5-dev
> libgmime-3.0-dev llvm-dev llvm libalure-dev libgmp-dev libgtk-3-dev
> libsdl2-dev libsdl2-mixer-dev libsdl2-ttf-dev libsdl2-image-dev sane-utils
> libdumb1-dev libssl-dev libqt5opengl5-dev libqt5svg5-dev libqt5webkit5-dev
> libqt5x11extras5-dev qtbase5-dev qtwebengine5-dev libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev git
>
> And then All components compiled and installed okay.
>
> BruceS
>
>
>
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sat Dec 19 08:08:56 2020
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 08:08:56 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYDmApLw-mktR3wM9TK7o=Y9rKpd1MRy7LnudUKCf45Ww@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <7cef425e-1bfd-f393-b3ed-05ba714b1136@deganius.de>

Am 18.12.20 um 22:35 schrieb Gianluigi:

> the last email appeared regularly (a few seconds) in the archive but
> gmail took 5 minutes to communicate it and that's fine for me.
> Instead this afternoon around 16 Italian time there was a blackout of
> about 2 hours or more.
> 
> This is for your knowledge only.

Thank you! Very good that the archive is so fast! I'm actually a little
unsure how quickly the mail shows up there and almost had a bad sense to
have given you the advice.

It seems that not only Gmail but a lot of large companies and
governments currently have issues. Maybe it is part of a larger attack:

https://bobsullivan.net/cybercrime/google-down-government-hacked-fireeye-raided-amazon-outage-its-been-a-rough-patch/

"I?m sitting here in the dark in my toddler?s room because the light is
controlled by @Google Home. Rethinking? a lot right now."

Put your data into the cloud and have fun! :-/

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
Dies ist keine Signatur

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 08:57:44 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 08:57:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Possible malfunction of the User Mailing List?
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Il giorno sab 19 dic 2020 alle ore 08:09 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

>
>
> https://bobsullivan.net/cybercrime/google-down-government-hacked-fireeye-raided-amazon-outage-its-been-a-rough-patch/
>
> "I?m sitting here in the dark in my toddler?s room because the light is
> controlled by @Google Home. Rethinking? a lot right now."
>
> Put your data into the cloud and have fun! :-/
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 09:01:22 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:01:22 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Use a class as a function
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYmKcobxQOxp74Sg2P=dSmKt-3LW7K8FF49nwTQ3muwRA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFYmKcobxQOxp74Sg2P=dSmKt-3LW7K8FF49nwTQ3muwRA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFY3--fumUR0eJu_YjMbytn_4Fyf_n1FWtmrAV5NNhJ=iw@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno ven 18 dic 2020 alle ore 22:16 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

> Hi,
>
> could this example help to understand _call() method  and also the "..."
> keyword?
>
> ...
>
> Thank you and regards
>

Maybe by typing "Return vResult" only once after "End Select"
?
Regards
Gianluigi
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From kicking177 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 10:47:44 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:47:44 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Shortcut key issue
Message-ID: <389a2906-e4c0-019d-0888-91182936fa20@gmail.com>

> Try this:
>
> After you press Alt-A click on somewhere in the form (in the actual form
> not another control) and press Alt-B.
> Does it jump to Textbox B now?

Nope.? But using the Form_KeyRelease() event instead of Form_KeyPress() 
works as I wanted.


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 14:12:08 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:12:08 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] TermnalView CSI t talking back
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCU9sH2xhz+xRqa4B5pkrgej8fXRPG3nK_0vL0=D_y2=w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all
I'm trying to further update the TerminalView_VT100 filter

The reason is i have added the 1-10 sequences that do stuff but not the
11-19 that report stuff.
I have found using the command "resize" to resize the window issues a CSI
18 command.
18 asks for the terminalview size in characters.

documentation says this..

          *Ps* = 1 8  ?  Report the size of the text area in characters.
          Result is CSI  8 ;  *height* ;  *width* t

So the filter does this..
      Case 18         Dim iDims As Integer[] = [hView.Height /
hView.LineHeight, hView.Width / hView.CharWidth]
hView.Input("\033[8;" & Str(iDims[0]) & ";" & Str(iDims[1]) & "t")

But I'm dong something wrong.
Using hView.Input() was the only way i could not have resize command
timeout but actually respond but it responds with "unknown sequence"

I've tried with a terminating \n

If I could figure out how the resize command is expecting the CSI
return with 18 i could add all the others.

I've added the changes to a terminal app here if anyone wants to test
it. just run it and type "resize -s 20 100"
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/germinal
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/germinal/-/blob/master/.src/TerminalView/TerminalFilter_VT100.class
Line 700 is the filter reply code.

Any advice appreciated

BruceS
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From kicking177 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 15:01:11 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 14:01:11 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] detect the "MenuKey" keypress
Message-ID: <af4a5b77-4d24-84b6-e5cc-cd4c960c035b@gmail.com>

can I detect the MenuKey (between right Alt and Ctrl keys) being pressed 
in std graphics form?
I'd like to raise popup menu on it being depressed
xev shows it detected as keycode 135 on my unit but I don't know if LXDE 
passes it through to Gambas?

From hans at gambas-buch.de  Sat Dec 19 15:45:17 2020
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:45:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Webserver Lighttpd - FastCGI and Gambas
Message-ID: <c082ff24-c19a-bfc7-808d-d12c16504ac2@gambas-buch.de>

Hello.

I use the Lighttpd web server (version 1.4.55) for my web projects. 
Following the recommendation in 
https://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/message/35668835/, I have 
configured the CGI module "mod_cgi".

...
# This tells that all executable files are cgi scripts,
# and just them
cgi.execute-x-only = "enable"
cgi.assign = ( "" => "" )

Also, the module "mod_fastcgi" was configured and enabled:

fastcgi.server = ( ".php" => ((
 ???????????????? "binpath" => "/usr/bin/phpcgi",
 ???????????????? "socket" => "/tmp/php.sock"
 ???????????????? )))

Now the question: With this configuration, do the web scripts (*.gbw) or 
web applications (*.gambas) of Gambas also run in FastCGI mode?
If this is NOT the case, I would like to know how to configure the 
Lighttpd web server for FastCGI mode as well.

With kind regards

Hans

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 15:53:40 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:53:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] detect the "MenuKey" keypress
In-Reply-To: <af4a5b77-4d24-84b6-e5cc-cd4c960c035b@gmail.com>
References: <af4a5b77-4d24-84b6-e5cc-cd4c960c035b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYMiy=r6JQ4CUtbHOQeoA9NTHiCK7o0eWQSo6t8qsk0sg@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno sab 19 dic 2020 alle ore 15:02 KKing <kicking177 at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

> can I detect the MenuKey (between right Alt and Ctrl keys) being pressed
> in std graphics form?
> I'd like to raise popup menu on it being depressed
> xev shows it detected as keycode 135 on my unit but I don't know if LXDE
> passes it through to Gambas?
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>

I don't know if I understand the question, are you looking for this?

Public Sub Form_KeyPress()

  If Key.Code = Key["m"] And If Key.Control Then
    Me.PopupMenu = "Menu1"
    Menu1.Popup(Me.X + (Me.W \ 2), Me.Y + (Me.H \ 2))
  Endif

End

Regards
Gianluigi

P.S. A little kindness would be appreciated
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From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Sat Dec 19 16:20:15 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 10:20:15 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] detect the "MenuKey" keypress
In-Reply-To: <af4a5b77-4d24-84b6-e5cc-cd4c960c035b@gmail.com>
References: <af4a5b77-4d24-84b6-e5cc-cd4c960c035b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d6c3df24-b0dd-da8d-7825-1f5d0fd990bd@ajm-software.com>

There are two ways: Assign a menu name to the form/comtrol's PopupMenu 
property or, more generally, write a function to handle the form/control 
Menu event.

On 2020-12-19 9:01 a.m., KKing wrote:
> can I detect the MenuKey (between right Alt and Ctrl keys) being 
> pressed in std graphics form?
> I'd like to raise popup menu on it being depressed
> xev shows it detected as keycode 135 on my unit but I don't know if 
> LXDE passes it through to Gambas?
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 16:26:47 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:26:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Webserver Lighttpd - FastCGI and Gambas
In-Reply-To: <c082ff24-c19a-bfc7-808d-d12c16504ac2@gambas-buch.de>
References: <c082ff24-c19a-bfc7-808d-d12c16504ac2@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <51eac884-b6d6-d293-e77c-403ef531e1b1@gmail.com>

Le 19/12/2020 ? 15:45, Hans Lehmann a ?crit?:
> Hello.
> 
> I use the Lighttpd web server (version 1.4.55) for my web projects. 
> Following the recommendation in 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/message/35668835/, I have 
> configured the CGI module "mod_cgi".
> 
> ...
> # This tells that all executable files are cgi scripts,
> # and just them
> cgi.execute-x-only = "enable"
> cgi.assign = ( "" => "" )
> 
> Also, the module "mod_fastcgi" was configured and enabled:
> 
> fastcgi.server = ( ".php" => ((
>  ???????????????? "binpath" => "/usr/bin/phpcgi",
>  ???????????????? "socket" => "/tmp/php.sock"
>  ???????????????? )))
> 
> Now the question: With this configuration, do the web scripts (*.gbw) or 
> web applications (*.gambas) of Gambas also run in FastCGI mode?
> If this is NOT the case, I would like to know how to configure the 
> Lighttpd web server for FastCGI mode as well.
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Hans
> 

No, only CGI is supported with the 'gb.web' component.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 16:54:49 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:54:49 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] detect the "MenuKey" keypress
In-Reply-To: <af4a5b77-4d24-84b6-e5cc-cd4c960c035b@gmail.com>
References: <af4a5b77-4d24-84b6-e5cc-cd4c960c035b@gmail.com>
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If Key.Code = Key["Menu"] Then

that should detect the menu key

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 14:02, KKing <kicking177 at gmail.com> wrote:

> can I detect the MenuKey (between right Alt and Ctrl keys) being pressed
> in std graphics form?
> I'd like to raise popup menu on it being depressed
> xev shows it detected as keycode 135 on my unit but I don't know if LXDE
> passes it through to Gambas?
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From hans at gambas-buch.de  Sat Dec 19 18:08:34 2020
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 18:08:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Webserver Lighttpd - FastCGI and Gambas
In-Reply-To: <51eac884-b6d6-d293-e77c-403ef531e1b1@gmail.com>
References: <c082ff24-c19a-bfc7-808d-d12c16504ac2@gambas-buch.de>
 <51eac884-b6d6-d293-e77c-403ef531e1b1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5d5ccd00-f379-caac-4e0d-59d1b175b26e@gambas-buch.de>

Am 19.12.20 um 16:26 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> No, only CGI is supported with the 'gb.web' component. 

Hello.

Thank you for the quick reply.
Does the statement also apply to the gb.web.gui component?

With kind regards

Hans

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 19:15:18 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 18:15:18 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] TermnalView CSI t talking back
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Never mind , I've figured it out.

Needed to use \e not \033
resize command is handling it fine now so i guess i've cracked it.
Will add more reporting values.
have almost done 11-19 now in the aforementioned app.
BruceS

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 13:12, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all
> I'm trying to further update the TerminalView_VT100 filter
>
> The reason is i have added the 1-10 sequences that do stuff but not the
> 11-19 that report stuff.
> I have found using the command "resize" to resize the window issues a CSI
> 18 command.
> 18 asks for the terminalview size in characters.
>
> documentation says this..
>
>           *Ps* = 1 8  ?  Report the size of the text area in characters.
>           Result is CSI  8 ;  *height* ;  *width* t
>
> So the filter does this..
>       Case 18         Dim iDims As Integer[] = [hView.Height / hView.LineHeight, hView.Width / hView.CharWidth]         hView.Input("\033[8;" & Str(iDims[0]) & ";" & Str(iDims[1]) & "t")
>
> But I'm dong something wrong.
> Using hView.Input() was the only way i could not have resize command timeout but actually respond but it responds with "unknown sequence"
>
> I've tried with a terminating \n
>
> If I could figure out how the resize command is expecting the CSI return with 18 i could add all the others.
>
> I've added the changes to a terminal app here if anyone wants to test it. just run it and type "resize -s 20 100"
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/germinal
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/germinal/-/blob/master/.src/TerminalView/TerminalFilter_VT100.class
> Line 700 is the filter reply code.
>
> Any advice appreciated
>
> BruceS
>
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 19:18:58 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 19:18:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Webserver Lighttpd - FastCGI and Gambas
In-Reply-To: <5d5ccd00-f379-caac-4e0d-59d1b175b26e@gambas-buch.de>
References: <c082ff24-c19a-bfc7-808d-d12c16504ac2@gambas-buch.de>
 <51eac884-b6d6-d293-e77c-403ef531e1b1@gmail.com>
 <5d5ccd00-f379-caac-4e0d-59d1b175b26e@gambas-buch.de>
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Le 19/12/2020 ? 18:08, Hans Lehmann a ?crit?:
> Am 19.12.20 um 16:26 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> No, only CGI is supported with the 'gb.web' component. 
> 
> Hello.
> 
> Thank you for the quick reply.
> Does the statement also apply to the gb.web.gui component?
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Hans
> 

Yes. One can say that 'gb.web.gui' implements its own way of doing 
"FastCGI" by replacing sessions by processes.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From kicking177 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 10:48:55 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 09:48:55 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] detect the "MenuKey"
Message-ID: <21290849-659a-d014-ad1e-be8c3b220fd7@gmail.com>

so in my stripped back example one form with two textboxes ... and a 
menu this
> ? If Key.Code = Key["m"] And If Key.Control Then
> ??? Me.PopupMenu = "Menu1"
> ??? Menu1.Popup(Me.X + (Me.W \ 2), Me.Y + (Me.H \ 2))
> ? Endif
Did not work, but this
> ? If Key.Code = Key["Menu"] Then
> ??? Me.PopupMenu = "Menu1"
> ??? Menu1.Popup(Me.X + (Me.W \ 2), Me.Y + (Me.H \ 2))
> ? Endif
this does work nicely, so thank you all for the snippets to test and use.

For some reason on a much more cluttered main form even the Public Sub 
Form_KeyPress() and Public Sub Form_KeyRelease() just don't seem to be 
being triggered at all. Need to try and debug / break it down to find 
out why.



From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 10:59:20 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 10:59:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] detect the "MenuKey"
In-Reply-To: <21290849-659a-d014-ad1e-be8c3b220fd7@gmail.com>
References: <21290849-659a-d014-ad1e-be8c3b220fd7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFY2-ep_YHb=W7Ya2ZHGVNoEBRPEn84uS_CEPKou0NWUvg@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno dom 20 dic 2020 alle ore 10:49 KKing <kicking177 at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

> so in my stripped back example one form with two textboxes ... and a
> menu this
> >   If Key.Code = Key["m"] And If Key.Control Then
> >     Me.PopupMenu = "Menu1"
> >     Menu1.Popup(Me.X + (Me.W \ 2), Me.Y + (Me.H \ 2))
> >   Endif
> Did not work, but this
> >   If Key.Code = Key["Menu"] Then
> >     Me.PopupMenu = "Menu1"
> >     Menu1.Popup(Me.X + (Me.W \ 2), Me.Y + (Me.H \ 2))
> >   Endif
> this does work nicely, so thank you all for the snippets to test and use.
>
> For some reason on a much more cluttered main form even the Public Sub
> Form_KeyPress() and Public Sub Form_KeyRelease() just don't seem to be
> being triggered at all. Need to try and debug / break it down to find
> out why.
>

it's a gtk bug just fixed in last master, use gb.gui.qt and everything will
work, even my code.

Gianluigi
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From kicking177 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 11:49:15 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 10:49:15 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] detect the "MenuKey" keypress
Message-ID: <42f9eaf9-846c-81a0-0730-c558c23cacbc@gmail.com>

> it's a gtk bug just fixed in last master, use gb.gui.qt and everything 
> will
> work, even my code.
So my current project has gb.gui do I simply add gb.gui.qt? and or do I 
have to remove gb.gui ?
Is there more to switch an existing project to use qt instead?

Unfortunately I have to stick to 3.12.2 as it's for a client who will 
only run the version of apps in Debian 10 repository.



From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 11:58:00 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 11:58:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] detect the "MenuKey" keypress
In-Reply-To: <42f9eaf9-846c-81a0-0730-c558c23cacbc@gmail.com>
References: <42f9eaf9-846c-81a0-0730-c558c23cacbc@gmail.com>
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Il giorno dom 20 dic 2020 alle ore 11:50 KKing <kicking177 at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

> > it's a gtk bug just fixed in last master, use gb.gui.qt and everything
> > will
> > work, even my code.
> So my current project has gb.gui do I simply add gb.gui.qt  and or do I
> have to remove gb.gui ?
> Is there more to switch an existing project to use qt instead?
>
> Unfortunately I have to stick to 3.12.2 as it's for a client who will
> only run the version of apps in Debian 10 repository.
>
>
just remove the check mark in gb.gui and put it on gb.gui.qt.
Then check that everything works as before...
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From sharon at 455.co.il  Sun Dec 20 11:58:43 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 12:58:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Add icon to WebForm
Message-ID: <20201220105251.M45530@455.co.il>

Hello

Fedora 32
gambas 3.15.2

gb.web.gui

How to change the icon of the WebForm I saw that there is only one property: Title


Thanks

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 14:13:00 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 14:13:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Add icon to WebForm
In-Reply-To: <20201220105251.M45530@455.co.il>
References: <20201220105251.M45530@455.co.il>
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Le 20/12/2020 ? 11:58, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> Hello
> 
> Fedora 32
> gambas 3.15.2
> 
> gb.web.gui
> 
> How to change the icon of the WebForm I saw that there is only one property: Title
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

At the moment, if you want to change the icon displayed in the web 
browser page, you have to define your own "favicon.png" image in the 
"Public" directory of your project.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From sharon at 455.co.il  Sun Dec 20 14:45:08 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 15:45:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Add icon to WebForm
In-Reply-To: <3559355f-2113-4c1f-71d5-db809da6029d@gmail.com>
References: <20201220105251.M45530@455.co.il>
 <3559355f-2113-4c1f-71d5-db809da6029d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20201220134340.M68161@455.co.il>

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
Sent: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 14:13:00 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Add icon to WebForm

> Le 20/12/2020 ? 11:58, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> > Hello
> > 
> > Fedora 32
> > gambas 3.15.2
> > 
> > gb.web.gui
> > 
> > How to change the icon of the WebForm I saw that there is only one property: Title
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
> 
> At the moment, if you want to change the icon displayed in the web 
> browser page, you have to define your own "favicon.png" image in the 
> "Public" directory of your project.
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
------- End of Original Message -------

Thank you

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 16:23:51 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 16:23:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFZNU-L-bv6opidmQ-+_RSMuo3CFNaX4z909b=dFLspyAQ@mail.gmail.com>

I don't understand what happens here:

1 - I created an executable (launch.gambas) and saved it in my home
2 - I updated crontab with: 10 16 * * * /home/gian/lancio.gambas

But at 16:10 the program doesn't start, what am I doing wrong?

Thanks & Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 16:25:55 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 16:25:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFZNU-L-bv6opidmQ-+_RSMuo3CFNaX4z909b=dFLspyAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFZNU-L-bv6opidmQ-+_RSMuo3CFNaX4z909b=dFLspyAQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Il giorno dom 20 dic 2020 alle ore 16:23 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

> I don't understand what happens here:
>
> 1 - I created an executable (launch.gambas) and saved it in my home
> 2 - I updated crontab with: 10 16 * * * /home/gian/lancio.gambas
>
> But at 16:10 the program doesn't start, what am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Gianluigi
>

Edit:
1 - I created an executable (lancio.gambas) and saved it in my home
2 - I updated crontab with: 10 16 * * * /home/gian/lancio.gambas
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 16:41:26 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 16:41:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFaCdaeeMGf-NRj2jpLoWz2XSddyk9B_S0PsPfyG94h=0A@mail.gmail.com>
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Il giorno dom 20 dic 2020 alle ore 16:25 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
>
> Il giorno dom 20 dic 2020 alle ore 16:23 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>> I don't understand what happens here:
>>
>> 1 - I created an executable (launch.gambas) and saved it in my home
>> 2 - I updated crontab with: 10 16 * * * /home/gian/lancio.gambas
>>
>> But at 16:10 the program doesn't start, what am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>> Gianluigi
>>
>
> Edit:
> 1 - I created an executable (lancio.gambas) and saved it in my home
> 2 - I updated crontab with: 10 16 * * * /home/gian/lancio.gambas
>

I forgot:
to be sure I also gave the command:
sudo service cron reload

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 17:20:45 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 16:20:45 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYknPd0t9y=rK7de3mdfUd205zHHaOLxw1AbiZzMPGe_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFZNU-L-bv6opidmQ-+_RSMuo3CFNaX4z909b=dFLspyAQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFaCdaeeMGf-NRj2jpLoWz2XSddyk9B_S0PsPfyG94h=0A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCCatxm_U4N4v=EvqvyUmmF6hM75YcGoiiy5LXepzpWuOg@mail.gmail.com>

did you try with gbr3 prefix?

10 16 * * * gbr3 /home/gian/lancio.gambas

Maybe crontab cannot handle filetype?
All i can suggest sorry

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 15:42, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Il giorno dom 20 dic 2020 alle ore 16:25 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>>
>>
>> Il giorno dom 20 dic 2020 alle ore 16:23 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> I don't understand what happens here:
>>>
>>> 1 - I created an executable (launch.gambas) and saved it in my home
>>> 2 - I updated crontab with: 10 16 * * * /home/gian/lancio.gambas
>>>
>>> But at 16:10 the program doesn't start, what am I doing wrong?
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>> Gianluigi
>>>
>>
>> Edit:
>> 1 - I created an executable (lancio.gambas) and saved it in my home
>> 2 - I updated crontab with: 10 16 * * * /home/gian/lancio.gambas
>>
>
> I forgot:
> to be sure I also gave the command:
> sudo service cron reload
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From pflora at libero.it  Sun Dec 20 17:32:55 2020
From: pflora at libero.it (pflora at libero.it)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 19:32:55 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?utf-8?q?Crontab_and_Gambas_executable?=
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCatxm_U4N4v=EvqvyUmmF6hM75YcGoiiy5LXepzpWuOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFZNU-L-bv6opidmQ-+_RSMuo3CFNaX4z909b=dFLspyAQ@mail.gmail.com>
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If this can help I created a gambas executable and run without any prefix, just absolute path and name.
It starts normally.
Try with absolute path.
Better create executable in the same machine and not copy from other linux systems.
Paolo
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Inviato da Libero Mail per Android domenica, 20 dicembre 2020, 05:21PM +01:00 da Bruce Steers  bsteers4 at gmail.com :

>did you try with gbr3 prefix?
>
>10 16 * * * gbr3 /home/gian/lancio.gambas
>
>Maybe crontab cannot handle filetype?
>All i can suggest sorry
>
>On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 15:42, Gianluigi < bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Il giorno dom 20 dic 2020 alle ore 16:25 Gianluigi < bagonergi at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>
>>>Il giorno dom 20 dic 2020 alle ore 16:23 Gianluigi < bagonergi at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>I don't understand what happens here:
>>>>
>>>>1 - I created an executable (launch.gambas) and saved it in my home
>>>>2 - I updated crontab with: 10 16 * * * /home/gian/lancio.gambas
>>>>
>>>>But at 16:10 the program doesn't start, what am I doing wrong?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks & Regards
>>>>Gianluigi
>>>
>>>Edit:
>>>1 - I created an executable (lancio.gambas) and saved it in my home
>>>2 - I updated crontab with: 10 16 * * * /home/gian/lancio.gambas
>>
>>I forgot:
>>to be sure I also gave the command:
>>sudo service cron reload
>>
>>Regards
>>Gianluigi
>>
>>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From kicking177 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 18:51:42 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 17:51:42 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
Message-ID: <5d75920a-63de-496d-1c88-25dd51a1b8da@gmail.com>

try setting the crontab to invoke a bash script which you can put some 
bash style logging or output from and also trap output of trying to 
invoke gambas.
remember crontab and bash will need full path to executables


From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 19:56:34 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 19:56:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
In-Reply-To: <5d75920a-63de-496d-1c88-25dd51a1b8da@gmail.com>
References: <5d75920a-63de-496d-1c88-25dd51a1b8da@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFY4cMP2BsObbxPZPsGNw6a98MVbVZ54EfrnPo_upQj7YQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I tried all ways, it doesn't work.

Thanks anyway

Gianluigi
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From pflora at libero.it  Sun Dec 20 20:18:52 2020
From: pflora at libero.it (pflora at libero.it)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 22:18:52 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?utf-8?q?Crontab_and_Gambas_executable?=
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFY4cMP2BsObbxPZPsGNw6a98MVbVZ54EfrnPo_upQj7YQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d75920a-63de-496d-1c88-25dd51a1b8da@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1608491932.415490064@f35.my.com>


crontab -l shows the job ?
First create a script and test it in a terminal.
Then call the script in crontab with sh
10 16 * * * sh /home/gian/start.sh
You can track much easier the problem.
ps aux | grep cron shows the daemon running ?
Paolo

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Inviato da Libero Mail per Android domenica, 20 dicembre 2020, 07:57PM +01:00 da Gianluigi  bagonergi at gmail.com :

>Hi,
>
>I tried all ways, it doesn't work.
>
>Thanks anyway
>
>Gianluigi
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 05:28:19 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 04:28:19 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFY4cMP2BsObbxPZPsGNw6a98MVbVZ54EfrnPo_upQj7YQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d75920a-63de-496d-1c88-25dd51a1b8da@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCB-_NsE0cNRonYC94rc3BPxUSN+ksXfKr_pU0Rp6p_2Fg@mail.gmail.com>

did you try adding cronjob with crontab -e ?

or use crontab -l to see if you cronjob is listed active after using your
crontab add method.
BruceS

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 18:57, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I tried all ways, it doesn't work.
>
> Thanks anyway
>
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 11:09:32 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:09:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCB-_NsE0cNRonYC94rc3BPxUSN+ksXfKr_pU0Rp6p_2Fg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d75920a-63de-496d-1c88-25dd51a1b8da@gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFY4cMP2BsObbxPZPsGNw6a98MVbVZ54EfrnPo_upQj7YQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCB-_NsE0cNRonYC94rc3BPxUSN+ksXfKr_pU0Rp6p_2Fg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFadLyiwLwDg4mafnyP25ZgEnXPYiFNXppvbG3T29tJHPA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

@pinglix,
first of all I apologize for the delay in replying.
I have done everything you advised me. ?

@BruceS
yes, I did that. ?

On the surface everything seems correct.

Unfortunately for me, even a simple test like:
crontab -e
50 18 * * * gedit
51 18 * * * killall -w gedit
it didn't work and then Gambas is not to blame.

I'm afraid it's something more serious, in trying to get my new computer
working (a little too modern for Linux) I've made too many corrections and
I'm afraid I'll have to review all my settings.
I was hoping that the 5.4.0-58-generic kernel would be enough, but I was
wrong.

I will let you know if and when I will be able to normalize everything.

Thanks again

Gianluigi
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Mon Dec 21 11:55:57 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:55:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Framalibre
Message-ID: <e0d94501-29ab-52ad-f4c1-269467899c8a@belmotek.net>

Hi,

Some weeks ago I write an article about Gambas in framalibre.org but it 
was deleted because it was written in English instead of French [1] then 
they propose a link for made again (in good french) the article.

I thought it might be interesting that Gambas are listed there, so I 
leave the information here in case someone from French-Speaking is 
interested in putting an article or something about Gambas in framalibre.org

[1] The record you created for Gambas has been deleted : all records 
have to be
written in French and we ask not to copy paste from an other web site (here
you used Wikipedia) but to write your own texts.

[2] https://participer.framasoft.org/fr/framalibre/index.html

Regards.

Mart?n Belmonte.


From the_watchmann at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 21 13:03:29 2020
From: the_watchmann at yahoo.com (David Silverwood)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 12:03:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Resizing controls inside a window
References: <2045425164.1624574.1608552209638.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2045425164.1624574.1608552209638@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi
I am trying to resize a label (horizontally) and databrowser (horizontally & vertically) in a gambas window. I'm having a torrid time at getting it right though as the form resizes but the controls remain the same size. Been trying to search in google/duck duck go but no luck. Any pointers in the right direction, please.
David
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 13:51:06 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 13:51:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Resizing controls inside a window
In-Reply-To: <2045425164.1624574.1608552209638@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2045425164.1624574.1608552209638.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2045425164.1624574.1608552209638@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFZCax1-1wOxK7Av7Pzug0j94koNpHPxQKJjdNbHoEd35A@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno lun 21 dic 2020 alle ore 13:04 David Silverwood via User <
user at lists.gambas-basic.org> ha scritto:

> Hi
>
> I am trying to resize a label (horizontally) and databrowser (horizontally
> & vertically) in a gambas window. I'm having a torrid time at getting it
> right though as the form resizes but the controls remain the same size.
> Been trying to search in google/duck duck go but no luck. Any pointers in
> the right direction, please.
>

Hi David,

you have to try to understand how containers work in Gambas.
For example try setting the Arrangement property of the form to Fill and
see what happens.
Or try setting it to Vertical and setting the databrowser or the label or
both to Expand = True.
Use other containers and do various tests...

Regards
Gianluigi
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 16:23:13 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 10:23:13 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFadLyiwLwDg4mafnyP25ZgEnXPYiFNXppvbG3T29tJHPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d75920a-63de-496d-1c88-25dd51a1b8da@gmail.com>
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On 12/21/20 5:09 AM, Gianluigi wrote:
> Unfortunately for me, even a simple test like:
> crontab -e
> 50 18 * * * gedit
> 51 18 * * * killall -w gedit
> it didn't work and then Gambas is not to blame.

I don't recall if you said that you verified that Cron is actually running. Depending on if you have System V or Systemd, you 
would need to do one of the following to check it:
service crond status (or service cron status),
systemctl status crond.service (or systemctl status cron.service), or
systemctl status cron


-- 
Lee

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 17:10:30 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:10:30 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Resizing controls inside a window
In-Reply-To: <2045425164.1624574.1608552209638@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2045425164.1624574.1608552209638.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2045425164.1624574.1608552209638@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5a1d3969-e5ec-ca9e-5a1f-5a398f64d350@gmail.com>

On 12/21/20 7:03 AM, David Silverwood via User wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am trying to resize a label (horizontally) and databrowser (horizontally & vertically) in a gambas window. I'm having a torrid 
> time at getting it right though as the form resizes but the controls remain the same size. Been trying to search in google/duck 
> duck go but no luck. Any pointers in the right direction, please.
> 
> David

You need to enable the Expand property on the controls and set the parent control to arrange its contents.

 From the Wiki:
Control.Expand (gb.qt4)

Property Expand As Boolean


Returns or sets if a control will expand if included in a container that arranges its contents.


-- 
Lee

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 18:11:20 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 18:11:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
In-Reply-To: <e5cdbcc1-e18c-630c-bbb7-8d3eabf9772f@gmail.com>
References: <5d75920a-63de-496d-1c88-25dd51a1b8da@gmail.com>
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Il giorno lun 21 dic 2020 alle ore 16:24 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> I don't recall if you said that you verified that Cron is actually
> running. Depending on if you have System V or Systemd, you
> would need to do one of the following to check it:
> service crond status (or service cron status),
> systemctl status crond.service (or systemctl status cron.service), or
> systemctl status cron
>

Yes I think it is active since 'systemctl status cron' replies to me this:
cron.service - Regular background program processing daemon
     Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cron.service; enabled; vendor
preset: enabled)
     Active: active (running) since Mon 2020-12-21 09:38:55 CET; 8h ago
     ...

Regards
Gianluigi
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From ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com  Mon Dec 21 18:32:37 2020
From: ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 18:32:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYe3ftFGZ2iLS0ghikTH=O-tcX5eDfH_-k2zWY0ReN_Lw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <ad977427-422d-36c6-699b-dbdb7fe4a865@ea7dfh.com>

El 21/12/20 a las 18:11, Gianluigi escribi?:
> Yes I think it is active since 'systemctl status cron' replies to me this:
> cron.service - Regular background program processing daemon
>       Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cron.service; enabled; vendor
> preset: enabled)
>       Active: active (running) since Mon 2020-12-21 09:38:55 CET; 8h ago
>       ...


Hi, Gianluigi

Don't know if it matters, but which file are you editing? /etc/crontab?

It seems to me it's much better to add a new file in any of these 
folders, depending on your needs:

/etc/cron.d
/etc/cron.daily
/etc/cron/hourly , etc

Also, be sure you left no spaces or blank lines at the beginning of your 
cron file, being or not comments as #my cron file

If none of the above works for you, try to add the system path above 
your cron command:

PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin: and so on.

Hope it helps, regards!

Jesus

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 19:52:13 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 19:52:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
In-Reply-To: <ad977427-422d-36c6-699b-dbdb7fe4a865@ea7dfh.com>
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Il giorno lun 21 dic 2020 alle ore 18:33 Jesus Guardon <ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com>
ha scritto:

Hello Jesus, happy to hear from you

>
> Don't know if it matters, but which file are you editing? /etc/crontab?
>
> yes, with the 'crontab -e' command

It seems to me it's much better to add a new file in any of these
> folders, depending on your needs:
>
> /etc/cron.d
> /etc/cron.daily
> /etc/cron/hourly , etc
>

i don't understand, i am a newbie from linux ;-D


>
> Also, be sure you left no spaces or blank lines at the beginning of your
> cron file, being or not comments as #my cron file
>
> If none of the above works for you, try to add the system path above
> your cron command:
>
> PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin: and so on.
>

I have done many tests, here is the last + my PATH :

crontab -l
# Edit this file to introduce tasks to be run by cron.
#
# Each task to run has to be defined through a single line
# indicating with different fields when the task will be run
# and what command to run for the task
#
# To define the time you can provide concrete values for
# minute (m), hour (h), day of month (dom), month (mon),
# and day of week (dow) or use '*' in these fields (for 'any').
#
# Notice that tasks will be started based on the cron's system
# daemon's notion of time and timezones.
#
# Output of the crontab jobs (including errors) is sent through
# email to the user the crontab file belongs to (unless redirected).
#
# For example, you can run a backup of all your user accounts
# at 5 a.m every week with:
# 0 5 * * 1 tar -zcf /var/backups/home.tgz /home/
#
# For more information see the manual pages of crontab(5) and cron(8)
#
# crontab Environmental settings
#SHELL=/bin/bash
#PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
#MAILTO=root
#
# Crontab Command settings
#
# m h dom m dow command
28 19 * * * gedit
29 20 * * * killall -w gedit


echo $PATH
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin

Thank you and regards
Gianluigi
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Mon Dec 21 21:01:29 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 12:01:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words
Message-ID: <1340799687.503.1608580889284.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Hi I have made a little tool to allow me to search the gambas website/wiki for information quickly. Bellow is an image of a quick search result. I have posted it to the farm, I am also including an attachment with the project for those able to download it. 

Its very simple/crude, it takes a few seconds to start as it fetches all the ref entries for a few key pages of the wiki when it starts. 

It's a first pass if anyone has any ideas to improve it please let me know... 

Maybe something like this could be included into the Wiki it's self. 

Thank You 
Brian G 
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 23:08:56 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 23:08:56 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words
In-Reply-To: <1340799687.503.1608580889284.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <1340799687.503.1608580889284.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbDWDAE2iQFHR0LeL2Eq7r5bE+RUEReGiGgB_rS525PFw@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno lun 21 dic 2020 alle ore 21:28 Brian G <brian at westwoodsvcs.com>
ha scritto:

> Hi I have made a little tool to allow me to search the gambas website/wiki
> for information quickly. Bellow is an image of a quick search result. I
> have posted it to the farm, I am also including an attachment with the
> project for those able to download it.
> ...
>

Interesting work, congratulations, good exercise.

Do you know that you can have the complete search directly in the wiki
itself, by logging in?
Just sign up for the bugtraker ( http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker ).
So, if you have a thorough knowledge of a topic and master the English
language, as well as bug reporting and arguments research, you can also
participate in writing the wiki itself and or translate it in enather
language.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 00:00:06 2020
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 18:00:06 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
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Message-ID: <c8837fb3-bcc8-d494-c326-8a5dc0883c60@gmail.com>

On 12/21/20 1:52 PM, Gianluigi wrote:
>     Don't know if it matters, but which file are you editing? /etc/crontab?
> 
> yes, with the 'crontab -e' command

If you are using `crontab -e`, then you are not editing /etc/crontab. You are editing the crontab for the user that executes 
that command. You can check what is in your per-user crontab with `crontab -l`. User crontabs should be found in 
/var/spool/crontab or /var/spool/cron/tab. User crontabs do not have a 'user' field, /etc/crontab does.

To check if the command is actually being run, you can check the /var/log/messages file or append something like 
'>/tmp/debug.out 2>&1' to the end of your crontab line.


-- 
Lee

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 00:11:52 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 00:11:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] About Gambas and Wayland
Message-ID: <58871655-b57a-3d6f-db93-26f98f295ca2@gmail.com>

Hi,

I have just merged the support for Wayland in the two GUI components 
gb.qt5 and gb.gtk3.

A few important things to note:

1) gb.gtk and gb.qt4 won't support wayland.

2) Wayland support in the toolkits, GTK+3 and QT5, is not really 
finished, so you will have a lot of little annoying problems. It's 
usually the window manager's fault - we must say "compositor" now with 
Wayland. If you have a problem with Gnome window manager, you may not 
have it with KDE window manager. And conversely.

3) Some GTK+3 menu popups are not displayed at the right position at the 
moment, but I may be able to fix that.

4) Desktop.Platform will tell you which platform you are using. It 
returns "x11" or "wayland".

5) You cannot choose the platform at the moment. The underlying toolkit 
decides.

Well, we must hope that support from GTK+3, QT5 and the different window 
managers will be better in the future.

Enjoy it anyway!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Mon Dec 21 23:48:44 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 14:48:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFbDWDAE2iQFHR0LeL2Eq7r5bE+RUEReGiGgB_rS525PFw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1340799687.503.1608580889284.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
 <CAJ2rqFbDWDAE2iQFHR0LeL2Eq7r5bE+RUEReGiGgB_rS525PFw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <723150932.596.1608590924113.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Yes I know that, but every time I log in as soon as i type a search string or change page the wiki immediately logs me out and never displays a response. It became very frustrating. 

Hence the Easy to use program that requires no login etc. 

Thank You 
Brian G 


From: "Gianluigi" <bagonergi at gmail.com> 
To: "Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> 
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 2:08:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words 



Il giorno lun 21 dic 2020 alle ore 21:28 Brian G < [ mailto:brian at westwoodsvcs.com | brian at westwoodsvcs.com ] > ha scritto: 



Hi I have made a little tool to allow me to search the gambas website/wiki for information quickly. Bellow is an image of a quick search result. I have posted it to the farm, I am also including an attachment with the project for those able to download it. 
... 



Interesting work, congratulations, good exercise. 

Do you know that you can have the complete search directly in the wiki itself, by logging in? 
Just sign up for the bugtraker ( [ http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker | http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker ] ). 
So, if you have a thorough knowledge of a topic and master the English language, as well as bug reporting and arguments research, you can also participate in writing the wiki itself and or translate it in enather language. 

Regards 
Gianluigi 


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From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Tue Dec 22 01:17:50 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 19:17:50 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words
In-Reply-To: <723150932.596.1608590924113.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
References: <1340799687.503.1608580889284.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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Why does the wiki require a login to search? It seems unnecessary.? We 
do need a login to edit.

On 2020-12-21 5:48 p.m., Brian G wrote:
> Yes I know that, but every time I log in as soon as i type a search 
> string or change page the wiki immediately logs me out and never 
> displays a response. It became very frustrating.
>
> Hence the Easy to use program that requires no login etc.
>
> Thank You
> Brian G
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Gianluigi" <bagonergi at gmail.com>
> *To: *"Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
> *Sent: *Monday, December 21, 2020 2:08:56 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words
>
>
>
> Il giorno lun 21 dic 2020 alle ore 21:28 Brian G 
> <brian at westwoodsvcs.com <mailto:brian at westwoodsvcs.com>> ha scritto:
>
>     Hi I have made a little tool to allow me to search the gambas
>     website/wiki for information quickly. Bellow is an image of a
>     quick search result. I have posted it to the farm, I am also
>     including an attachment with the project for those able to
>     download it.
>     ...
>
>
> Interesting work, congratulations, good exercise.
>
> Do you know that you can have the complete search directly in the wiki 
> itself, by logging in?
> Just sign up for the bugtraker ( http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker 
> <http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker> ).
> So, if you have a thorough knowledge of a topic and master the English 
> language, as well as bug reporting and arguments research, you can 
> also participate in writing the wiki itself and or translate it in 
> enather language.
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 01:25:31 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 01:25:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words
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References: <1340799687.503.1608580889284.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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Le 22/12/2020 ? 01:17, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
> Why does the wiki require a login to search? It seems unnecessary.? We 
> do need a login to edit.
> 

Because it uses CPU, and I don't pay the hosting. So I don't want abuse, 
and searching is reserved to real people having an account.

Otherwise you can use Google (or equivalent crawlers) to search the wiki 
site only.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Tue Dec 22 01:40:42 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:40:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words
In-Reply-To: <55fbfceb-fcb2-ae14-9839-5bbe78298297@gmail.com>
References: <1340799687.503.1608580889284.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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 <8856d3f5-39db-2b28-73b9-5764456d246b@ajm-software.com>
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Message-ID: <385077195.785.1608597642114.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

I never figured out how to use the crawler to search the wiki, for just something like string or str* etc,
The little app does that for me. perhaps that could be added to the IDE so that everyone can get quick search results, and being offloaded to the individuals computer.

It would be very helpful, in a lot of cases and save doing frustrating searches with random results....
Perhaps it could be added to the gui help screen?
Brian G

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beno?t Minisini" <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: "Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 4:25:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words

Le 22/12/2020 ? 01:17, Tony Morehen a ?crit?:
> Why does the wiki require a login to search? It seems unnecessary.? We 
> do need a login to edit.
> 

Because it uses CPU, and I don't pay the hosting. So I don't want abuse, 
and searching is reserved to real people having an account.

Otherwise you can use Google (or equivalent crawlers) to search the wiki 
site only.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Tue Dec 22 02:15:34 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 17:15:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issues with text being less that 3 byte in list view
Message-ID: <962028077.898.1608599734530.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

In a list view if the text is three byte or less then the single click event is raised randomly, sometimes not working, but at other times works fine. Double click always works. 

Has anyone else had this experience? 

using gtk3 version 

Thank You 
Brian G 
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 02:49:31 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 02:49:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issues with text being less that 3 byte in list
 view
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References: <962028077.898.1608599734530.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
Message-ID: <cd3e29bd-a353-531d-0225-3ab9e361609a@gmail.com>

Le 22/12/2020 ? 02:15, Brian G a ?crit?:
> In a list view if the text is three byte or less then the single click 
> event is raised randomly, sometimes not working, but at other times 
> works fine. Double click always works.
> 
> Has anyone else had this experience?
> 
> using gtk3 version
> 
> Thank You
> Brian G
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

Can you provide a sample project with that bug?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Tue Dec 22 11:38:24 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 11:38:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] About Gambas and Wayland
In-Reply-To: <58871655-b57a-3d6f-db93-26f98f295ca2@gmail.com>
References: <58871655-b57a-3d6f-db93-26f98f295ca2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2122b0d4-cb93-79c6-8d8a-45737ddbb033@belmotek.net>

Tanks Beno?t, I will see it in my testing machine.

Regards

On 22/12/20 0:11, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just merged the support for Wayland in the two GUI components 
> gb.qt5 and gb.gtk3.
>
> A few important things to note:
>
> 1) gb.gtk and gb.qt4 won't support wayland.
>
> 2) Wayland support in the toolkits, GTK+3 and QT5, is not really 
> finished, so you will have a lot of little annoying problems. It's 
> usually the window manager's fault - we must say "compositor" now with 
> Wayland. If you have a problem with Gnome window manager, you may not 
> have it with KDE window manager. And conversely.
>
> 3) Some GTK+3 menu popups are not displayed at the right position at 
> the moment, but I may be able to fix that.
>
> 4) Desktop.Platform will tell you which platform you are using. It 
> returns "x11" or "wayland".
>
> 5) You cannot choose the platform at the moment. The underlying 
> toolkit decides.
>
> Well, we must hope that support from GTK+3, QT5 and the different 
> window managers will be better in the future.
>
> Enjoy it anyway!
>

From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Tue Dec 22 12:24:23 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:24:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <5a023abc-d986-aaaf-474c-e2867004d112@belmotek.net>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
 <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>
 <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>
 <a2cab377-cf51-cbcf-cb8a-9154e17a0399@belmotek.net>
 <1396f201-b772-21cb-a246-65c9d70cc13c@gmail.com>
 <aa17d25e-5035-ea55-a266-3b13e08bc14c@belmotek.net>
 <2491c9a3-410e-cd68-a47c-7fd8f4d8a436@gmail.com>
 <2dcdc07b-c34c-ed2a-558f-adbe18fb5e10@belmotek.net>
 <09dc2039-9aa7-17bd-1154-b013516b2e26@belmotek.net>
 <4919fe6a-22fc-f11a-e2f2-3a69daa923a7@gmail.com>
 <5a023abc-d986-aaaf-474c-e2867004d112@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <94eff769-a2a3-3b2a-8dd9-1147367b5125@belmotek.net>

Hi,

I am blocked. I can't get the compilation of the component to work.
Surely I am doing several things wrong or maybe there is a fault 
somewhere that I cannot see.
This component is very important to advance with GauchoCAD and go from 
reading the content of a dwg to being able to write to it.

We need the help of someone with component knowledge to figure out why 
compiling is not possible.

Thanks.

Mart?n Belmonte.


On 18/12/20 10:09, Martin wrote:
> ok, I try to use some similar poppler, it doesn't work. then I try 
> coping the configure.ac from Reini bindings, it doesn't neither, even 
> I change many options also run 'relink.sh' nothing seems to work. I 
> show the outputs of a few tries.
>
> || Unable to met pkg-config requirement: libredwg >= 0.10.0
> || gb.dwg is disabled
>
> || Unable to met pkg-config requirement: libredwg >= 0.0.11
> || gb.dwg is disabled
>
> || Unable to met pkg-config requirement: libredwg >= 0.0.11
> || gb.dwg is disabled
>
> Regards
>
> On 18/12/20 1:19, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> Le 18/12/2020 ? 00:40, Martin a ?crit?:
>>> I did everything again from a new template and delete the directory 
>>> created before (gb.dwg) when I do ./reconf at the end of the process 
>>> it tells me that the component is disabled because it cannot find 
>>> c_dwg.h, but it does. Did I forget to indicate it somewhere?
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>
>> I strongly suggest that, if libredgw relies on 'pkg-config', that you 
>> rewrite your 'configure.ac' file following the one of the 
>> 'gb.poppler' component.
>>
>> You are at the moment using the autoconf macros made for searching 
>> directories from specific files, but I made macros for using 
>> 'pkg-config' too. They are simpler to use.
>>
>> Then, as for the location of 'gb.dwg.so' and 'gb.dwg.component', I 
>> was talking about the location of their installation (normally 
>> '/usr/lib/gambas3'). This is where the IDE searches for components.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 12:43:54 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:43:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.dwg started
In-Reply-To: <94eff769-a2a3-3b2a-8dd9-1147367b5125@belmotek.net>
References: <fbf3081c-64d8-c097-b696-33f99d84094a@belmotek.net>
 <41576cd0-3874-0ebf-7ac8-a2479b023124@gmail.com>
 <1528e8d3-b7c8-6eb7-86c0-4ff6a8393d9e@belmotek.net>
 <a2cab377-cf51-cbcf-cb8a-9154e17a0399@belmotek.net>
 <1396f201-b772-21cb-a246-65c9d70cc13c@gmail.com>
 <aa17d25e-5035-ea55-a266-3b13e08bc14c@belmotek.net>
 <2491c9a3-410e-cd68-a47c-7fd8f4d8a436@gmail.com>
 <2dcdc07b-c34c-ed2a-558f-adbe18fb5e10@belmotek.net>
 <09dc2039-9aa7-17bd-1154-b013516b2e26@belmotek.net>
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 <94eff769-a2a3-3b2a-8dd9-1147367b5125@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <25600fa0-3622-a668-86e2-73fa20db30d4@gmail.com>

Le 22/12/2020 ? 12:24, Martin a ?crit?:
> Hi,
> 
> I am blocked. I can't get the compilation of the component to work.
> Surely I am doing several things wrong or maybe there is a fault 
> somewhere that I cannot see.
> This component is very important to advance with GauchoCAD and go from 
> reading the content of a dwg to being able to write to it.
> 
> We need the help of someone with component knowledge to figure out why 
> compiling is not possible.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mart?n Belmonte.
> 
> 

Where is the code?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From hans at gambas-buch.de  Tue Dec 22 14:01:22 2020
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 14:01:22 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebControl.Render (gb.web.gui) ?
Message-ID: <2d13d40a-4c76-e1df-5443-b8397a3b2b6c@gambas-buch.de>

Hello.
/
//Event WebControl.Render (gb.web.form)
Event Render ( )
This event is raised just after the rendering of the control, so that 
you can add your own HTML contents./

I did not understand the above sentence in the documentation.

How do I insert my own HTML source code? A small example would be helpful.

With kind regards

Hans

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 14:12:26 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 14:12:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebControl.Render (gb.web.gui) ?
In-Reply-To: <2d13d40a-4c76-e1df-5443-b8397a3b2b6c@gambas-buch.de>
References: <2d13d40a-4c76-e1df-5443-b8397a3b2b6c@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <21b369ee-efde-1bca-21a4-4e32909339f1@gmail.com>

Le 22/12/2020 ? 14:01, Hans Lehmann a ?crit?:
> Hello.
> /
> //Event WebControl.Render (gb.web.form)
> Event Render ( )
> This event is raised just after the rendering of the control, so that 
> you can add your own HTML contents./
> 
> I did not understand the above sentence in the documentation.
> 
> How do I insert my own HTML source code? A small example would be helpful.
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Hans
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

With the Print instruction.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From charlie at cogier.com  Tue Dec 22 13:56:18 2020
From: charlie at cogier.com (Charlie Ogier)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:56:18 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Resizing controls inside a window
In-Reply-To: <2045425164.1624574.1608552209638@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2045425164.1624574.1608552209638.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2045425164.1624574.1608552209638@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1811756d-38c2-a9cf-7876-1129cdcad9be@cogier.com>



On 21/12/2020 12:03, David Silverwood via User wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am trying to resize a label (horizontally) and databrowser 
> (horizontally & vertically) in a gambas window. I'm having a torrid 
> time at getting it right though as the form resizes but the controls 
> remain the same size. Been trying to search in google/duck duck go but 
> no luck. Any pointers in the right direction, please.
>
> David
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
Hi David,

Have a look at the attached. It shows a simple expand example and also 
points to a program that may help.

Charlie
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 15:18:37 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 14:18:37 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words
In-Reply-To: <55fbfceb-fcb2-ae14-9839-5bbe78298297@gmail.com>
References: <1340799687.503.1608580889284.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
 <CAJ2rqFbDWDAE2iQFHR0LeL2Eq7r5bE+RUEReGiGgB_rS525PFw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <55fbfceb-fcb2-ae14-9839-5bbe78298297@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAvwjAOHqOJgqcDkaUcWzHpKFO7BLdrhiMkQQbPaTruxQ@mail.gmail.com>

It would be nice to be able to search our downloaded offline wiki

google (and other crawlers) are a bit rubbish with gambas , i mostly get
results about tapas bars selling prawn dishes lol ;)

What app would you have to edit to enable this?  i see in the source dir
there's gb.wiki and gambas.wiki
Have not looked into it but you may already have the code BrianG It's just
figuring out where to put it.

Searching the local files should also be much quicker than dealing with the
web.
And wouldn't abuse the servers.
Good idea though Brian :)

BruceS

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 00:26, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 22/12/2020 ? 01:17, Tony Morehen a ?crit :
> > Why does the wiki require a login to search? It seems unnecessary.  We
> > do need a login to edit.
> >
>
> Because it uses CPU, and I don't pay the hosting. So I don't want abuse,
> and searching is reserved to real people having an account.
>
> Otherwise you can use Google (or equivalent crawlers) to search the wiki
> site only.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From gambas at cd-bahia.com  Tue Dec 22 15:42:39 2020
From: gambas at cd-bahia.com (Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 15:42:39 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] error mesage
Message-ID: <cf603ab8-e8ba-f156-0471-6a796f0163ab@cd-bahia.com>

Hi,
every time I run a certain program in the IDE I get this message.
/
//(vl:26743): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 13:33:43.984: gtk_box_gadget_distribute: 
assertion 'size >= 0' failed in GtkNotebook/

What is wrong here.
Thanks in advance,
Dag
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 16:13:43 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 16:13:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words
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Le 22/12/2020 ? 15:18, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> It would be nice to be able to search our downloaded offline wiki
> 
> google (and other crawlers) are a bit rubbish with gambas , i mostly get 
> results about tapas bars selling prawn dishes lol ;)

You have to add "+site:gambaswiki.org" to your request, so that Google 
returns only the results on 'gambaswiki.org'. You have to configure the 
language you prefer too.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 16:20:42 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 16:20:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] error mesage
In-Reply-To: <cf603ab8-e8ba-f156-0471-6a796f0163ab@cd-bahia.com>
References: <cf603ab8-e8ba-f156-0471-6a796f0163ab@cd-bahia.com>
Message-ID: <39feca0f-7cc0-9851-ea29-326fd84ba258@gmail.com>

Le 22/12/2020 ? 15:42, Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas a ?crit?:
> Hi,
> every time I run a certain program in the IDE I get this message.
> /
> //(vl:26743): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 13:33:43.984: gtk_box_gadget_distribute: 
> assertion 'size >= 0' failed in GtkNotebook/
> 
> What is wrong here.
> Thanks in advance,
> Dag
> 
> 

This is GTK+ as usual.

They implement a new widget drawing system during GTK+3.

As soon as this system cannot resize a sub-element, it emits a warning. 
Then I don't know what it does exactly, this is not documented. I hope 
it does the right thing, i.e. hide this sub-element, but who knows?

The problem is that these resizing problems entirely depend on the 
widget theme, so you cannot know by advance if you will get these 
warnings or not.

I succeeded in avoiding a lot of these warning with a big bunch of 
tricks and workarounds. At the moment, with the Breeze GTK+ theme, I 
mostly have only warnings with scrollbars for reasons I don't 
understand. But I guess with other themes, on some controls, you will 
have other warnings...

But don't worry, I guess all that will be worse with GTK+4.

Is there some sort of contest for the worse GUI toolkit in the world?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 18:12:08 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 17:12:08 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] error mesage
In-Reply-To: <39feca0f-7cc0-9851-ea29-326fd84ba258@gmail.com>
References: <cf603ab8-e8ba-f156-0471-6a796f0163ab@cd-bahia.com>
 <39feca0f-7cc0-9851-ea29-326fd84ba258@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAez_N-r6-HwhOT8+DST5wr0P8Vb0J7OkBG4k7SC5moZw@mail.gmail.com>

haha , yeah GTK4 will will do things entirely differently just to be
annoying :D

I'm re-assured to know almost everything i run in a terminal from zenity to
pluma all give out a bunch of gtk warnings depending on my widget theme. so
gambas is in no way alone,


On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 15:21, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 22/12/2020 ? 15:42, Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas a ?crit :
> > Hi,
> > every time I run a certain program in the IDE I get this message.
> > /
> > //(vl:26743): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 13:33:43.984: gtk_box_gadget_distribute:
> > assertion 'size >= 0' failed in GtkNotebook/
> >
> > What is wrong here.
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Dag
> >
> >
>
> This is GTK+ as usual.
>
> They implement a new widget drawing system during GTK+3.
>
> As soon as this system cannot resize a sub-element, it emits a warning.
> Then I don't know what it does exactly, this is not documented. I hope
> it does the right thing, i.e. hide this sub-element, but who knows?
>
> The problem is that these resizing problems entirely depend on the
> widget theme, so you cannot know by advance if you will get these
> warnings or not.
>
> I succeeded in avoiding a lot of these warning with a big bunch of
> tricks and workarounds. At the moment, with the Breeze GTK+ theme, I
> mostly have only warnings with scrollbars for reasons I don't
> understand. But I guess with other themes, on some controls, you will
> have other warnings...
>
> But don't worry, I guess all that will be worse with GTK+4.
>
> Is there some sort of contest for the worse GUI toolkit in the world?
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 23:33:22 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 22:33:22 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] No application-x-gambas icon in new ubuntu/debian
Message-ID: <CABuQYCC4OkdzcLqkuZ6eKuq9WyUzZsrq82hgeOeYdc2Fb5G4ug@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.
I've recently compiled latest gambas on debian 11 and ubuntu 21.
Install was mostly okay apart from the gambas exe's do not show the
application-x-gambas3 icon. On both debian and ubuntu.
The mime type is okay as icon double click works just no orange icon.
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Wed Dec 23 05:00:37 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (=?UTF-8?B?QnJpYW4gRw==?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 07:00:37 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] 
 =?utf-8?q?Issues_with_text_being_less_that_3_byte_?=
 =?utf-8?q?in_list_view?=
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Message-ID: <1608696037.348056837@f17.my.com>


Ok
--
Thanks
Brian Monday, 21 December 2020, 05:50PM -08:00 from Beno?t Minisini  g4mba5 at gmail.com :

>Le 22/12/2020 ? 02:15, Brian G a ?crit?:
> In a list view if the text is three byte or less then the single click 
> event is raised randomly, sometimes not working, but at other times 
> works fine. Double click always works.
>
> Has anyone else had this experience?
>
> using gtk3 version
>
> Thank You
> Brian G
>
>
> ----[  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
>Can you provide a sample project with that bug?
>
>-- 
>Beno?t Minisini
>
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From ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com  Wed Dec 23 12:30:45 2020
From: ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com (Jesus Guardon)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 12:30:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words
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El 22/12/20 a las 15:18, Bruce Steers escribi?:

> google (and other crawlers) are a bit rubbish with gambas , i mostly get
> results about tapas bars selling prawn dishes lol ;)

Well, that's true if you are not filtering the results. You can add 
"site:gambaswiki.org" to your search terms or use a custom search 
created with a tool provided by them. This is the page you may use to 
program your custom searches:

https://programmablesearchengine.google.com/cse/create/new

And this one is a gambaswiki.org custom search made by this tool. Yeah, 
simple enough and rudimentary, but it works.

https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=47ba325fafb4a5256

You could then add this link to your bookmarks and you're done!

Regards

Jesus

From kicking177 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 13:42:41 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 12:42:41 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Date fun again - IsDate and CDate localisation?
Message-ID: <9e75d59d-fa32-0639-eaba-962e01199778@gmail.com>

So I'm in UK so expect dates in format dd/mm/yyyy using G 3.12.2 on 
trying to validate a source feed file ...? I have the following.

> Dim strTest As String
> Dim dteTest As Date
> strTest = "14/01/2000 00:00:00"
> If IsDate(strTest) Then
> ?? dteTest = CDate(strTest)
> Else
> ?? dteTest = CDate(strTest)
> Endif 

When I have strTest = "14/01/2020 00:00:00" it passes the "IsDate" test 
but then fails on the CDate line with "type mismatch: wanted Date, got 
string instead.

If I have strTest = "01/14/2020 00:00:00" it passes both ... why?

Is there some sort of localisation within Gambas I have to set?

K.


From jean-yvon.renaut at wanadoo.fr  Wed Dec 23 17:55:17 2020
From: jean-yvon.renaut at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Yvon)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:55:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE and VERSION
Message-ID: <7064253f-48dd-f90a-3b07-9da1b7dd29ff@wanadoo.fr>

Hello,
In the IDE, menu "project" -> "properties".
There is a box to hold: "Get from a 'VERSION' file"
When the IDE is closed the box does not hold.

Merry Christmas to all
JY




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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 18:33:40 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:33:40 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE and VERSION
In-Reply-To: <7064253f-48dd-f90a-3b07-9da1b7dd29ff@wanadoo.fr>
References: <7064253f-48dd-f90a-3b07-9da1b7dd29ff@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAjKmAFSePET7kqZ8kw7QRPC6OB50Z90c9Yxvw3sm4SvA@mail.gmail.com>

Do you have a VERSION file in top dir?

in the gambas source dir in the main dir there is a file called VERSION
that contains the text
3.15.90

BruceS

On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 16:56, Jean-Yvon <jean-yvon.renaut at wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Hello,
> In the IDE, menu "project" -> "properties".
> There is a box to hold: "Get from a 'VERSION' file"
> When the IDE is closed the box does not hold.
>
> Merry Christmas to all
> JY
>
>
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 18:45:56 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:45:56 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE and VERSION
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCAjKmAFSePET7kqZ8kw7QRPC6OB50Z90c9Yxvw3sm4SvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7064253f-48dd-f90a-3b07-9da1b7dd29ff@wanadoo.fr>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCABDgsmxvLzAJ0TCDyQpLrEaD1AdOn9Bt1jr_=wEE-wtQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hmm no sorry i just tried it with a VERSION file.

The setting gets saved in the .project file but the IDE does not seem to
see it on project load.
One for the bugtracker i think..

BruceS

On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 17:33, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you have a VERSION file in top dir?
>
> in the gambas source dir in the main dir there is a file called VERSION
> that contains the text
> 3.15.90
>
> BruceS
>
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 16:56, Jean-Yvon <jean-yvon.renaut at wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> In the IDE, menu "project" -> "properties".
>> There is a box to hold: "Get from a 'VERSION' file"
>> When the IDE is closed the box does not hold.
>>
>> Merry Christmas to all
>> JY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
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From sharon at 455.co.il  Wed Dec 23 21:50:15 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 22:50:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] dynamically  timer gb.web.gui
Message-ID: <20201223204911.M6577@455.co.il>

Hello

When I dynamically add a timer
As the following code:

Export

Public hConsoleTimer As Timer

Public Sub WebForm_Open()

  hConsoleTimer = New Timer As "MyTimer"
  hConsoleTimer.Delay = 1000
  hConsoleTimer.Enabled = True

End

Public Sub MyTimer_Timer()
  
  WebLabel1.Text = CString(Now())

End

It went into the event
But on the page I do not see the changes of time

If I manually add a timer and put it on the WebForm it works fine.

Thanks

From sharon at 455.co.il  Wed Dec 23 22:08:55 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 23:08:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] fill color  WebProgressBar
Message-ID: <20201223210527.M89504@455.co.il>

hello

How to change the fill color of the WebProgressBar

Thanks

From Karl.Reinl at Fen-Net.de  Thu Dec 24 00:19:05 2020
From: Karl.Reinl at Fen-Net.de (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:19:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Time string to Date
Message-ID: <b6d74cb375128a1a5b3db863d0386f3c642b851a.camel@Fen-Net.de>

Salut,

did I miss something? 
Before when I converted a Time string with Val the result was a gb.Date
and the value a Time. 
Now I get with val(Format(Now,"hh:mm")) '. 22:12:37' the Date part is
present as a Point. 
Any idea?


From Karl.Reinl at fen-net.de  Thu Dec 24 00:41:11 2020
From: Karl.Reinl at fen-net.de (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:41:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Time string to Date
Message-ID: <ad14ad1da35bd3ec40922ee0dd7ba06394adbe5d.camel@Fen-Net.de>

Salut,

did I miss something? 
Before when I converted a Time string with Val the result was a gb.Date
and the value a Time. 
Now I get with val(Format(Now,"hh:mm")) '. 22:12:37' the Date part is
present as a Point. 
Any idea?

Sorry : 
val(Format(Now,"hh:mm")) should be val(Format(Now,"hh:nn"))
-- 
Amicalement
Charlie


From Karl.Reinl at fen-net.de  Thu Dec 24 16:23:51 2020
From: Karl.Reinl at fen-net.de (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:23:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Time string to Date
Message-ID: <d0f842dda092c7c673a7b73752debfae67957c38.camel@Fen-Net.de>

Salut,

did I miss something? 
Before when I converted a Time string with Val the result was a gb.Date
and the value a Time. 
Now I get with val(Format(Now,"hh:mm")) '. 22:12:37' the Date part is
present as a Point. 
Any idea?

Sorry : 
val(Format(Now,"hh:mm")) should be val(Format(Now,"hh:nn"))

Ok, now I see clearer, and went back from
daafba28dcd4174586677334236b458096a6aadc HEAD
to ecb11f6552be93c234f0acc624f342f04971731b
Now val(Format(Now,"hh:nn")) is '22:12:37' back again, no more leading
Date-dot in Time

-- 
Amicalement
Charlie


From sharon at 455.co.il  Thu Dec 24 17:58:01 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 18:58:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL or EXEC background with gb.web.gui
Message-ID: <20201224165718.M15415@455.co.il>

Hello

(For example I did sleep but in practice I need to run a command to convert that it takes some time)

I'm trying to run any command in the background without WAIT

so:

Export

Public Sub WebTimer1_Timer()

  WebLabel1.Text = Now()

End

Public Sub WebButton1_Click()
  
  Dim hProcess As Process
  
  hProcess = Shell "sleep 5" As "myp"
  
End

Public Sub myp_Kill()
  
  WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"
  
End


I see that it continues to the next line but on the page I see that the time display is stopped until the end of the command.

At the end of the command he does not update what is inside the Kill event
WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 24 19:24:47 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:24:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Date fun again - IsDate and CDate localisation?
In-Reply-To: <9e75d59d-fa32-0639-eaba-962e01199778@gmail.com>
References: <9e75d59d-fa32-0639-eaba-962e01199778@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <506e60a3-0720-5462-eaab-a1dd4d7af4d7@gmail.com>

Le 23/12/2020 ? 13:42, KKing a ?crit?:
> So I'm in UK so expect dates in format dd/mm/yyyy using G 3.12.2 on 
> trying to validate a source feed file ...? I have the following.
> 
>> Dim strTest As String
>> Dim dteTest As Date
>> strTest = "14/01/2000 00:00:00"
>> If IsDate(strTest) Then
>> ?? dteTest = CDate(strTest)
>> Else
>> ?? dteTest = CDate(strTest)
>> Endif 
> 
> When I have strTest = "14/01/2020 00:00:00" it passes the "IsDate" test 
> but then fails on the CDate line with "type mismatch: wanted Date, got 
> string instead.
> 
> If I have strTest = "01/14/2020 00:00:00" it passes both ... why?
> 
> Is there some sort of localisation within Gambas I have to set?
> 
> K.
> 

It's normal. IsDate() checks for local date, whereas CDate() does not. 
It only uses "C" date, i.e. American ones.

Look at the documentation, it's written when a date function is for 
local dates or not.

Regards,


-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 24 19:32:16 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 18:32:16 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL or EXEC background with gb.web.gui
In-Reply-To: <20201224165718.M15415@455.co.il>
References: <20201224165718.M15415@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBnR7hN1TWSZq3pphN+SCc1QrN0Z3KRLEC1NvgXxD=myg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.  I would do something like this.. (writing this code ad-lib so not
tested it)
Create a timer to monitor the running shell process for Process.Running and
clean up when finished that way.

Export

 Public hProcess As Process

Public Sub WebTimer1_Timer()

  WebLabel1.Text = Now()

End

Public Sub WebButton1_Click()

  hProcess = Shell "sleep 5"
  ProcessTimer.Start
End

Public Sub ProcessTimer_Timer()

If hProcess.State = Process.Running Then Return

ProcessTimer.Stop
If hProcess Then hProcess.Kill()
  WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"

End

BruceS

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 16:59, Mayost Sharon <sharon at 455.co.il> wrote:

> Hello
>
> (For example I did sleep but in practice I need to run a command to
> convert that it takes some time)
>
> I'm trying to run any command in the background without WAIT
>
> so:
>
> Export
>
> Public Sub WebTimer1_Timer()
>
>   WebLabel1.Text = Now()
>
> End
>
> Public Sub WebButton1_Click()
>
>   Dim hProcess As Process
>
>   hProcess = Shell "sleep 5" As "myp"
>
> End
>
> Public Sub myp_Kill()
>
>   WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"
>
> End
>
>
> I see that it continues to the next line but on the page I see that the
> time display is stopped until the end of the command.
>
> At the end of the command he does not update what is inside the Kill event
> WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 24 19:47:06 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:47:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] dynamically timer gb.web.gui
In-Reply-To: <20201223204911.M6577@455.co.il>
References: <20201223204911.M6577@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <bba1b700-c1b8-2838-f8c7-4e1fd7db6d76@gmail.com>

Le 23/12/2020 ? 21:50, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> Hello
> 
> When I dynamically add a timer
> As the following code:
> 
> Export
> 
> Public hConsoleTimer As Timer
> 
> Public Sub WebForm_Open()
> 
>    hConsoleTimer = New Timer As "MyTimer"
>    hConsoleTimer.Delay = 1000
>    hConsoleTimer.Enabled = True
> 
> End
> 
> Public Sub MyTimer_Timer()
>    
>    WebLabel1.Text = CString(Now())
> 
> End
> 
> It went into the event
> But on the page I do not see the changes of time
> 
> If I manually add a timer and put it on the WebForm it works fine.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 

It's because the GUI creates a "WebTimer", not a "Timer".

"Timer" ticks internally in the session server process, and can't force 
an update of the web browser client, whereas "WebTimer" ticks in the 
client web browser, and then can update the interface.

The update of the web page can only be done in a response to a request. 
It cannot be forced from the server if a request has not been initiated 
from the web browser, i.e. from a GUI event (bouton click, WebTimer 
tick...).

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 24 19:53:02 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 18:53:02 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL or EXEC background with gb.web.gui
In-Reply-To: <20201224165718.M15415@455.co.il>
References: <20201224165718.M15415@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDBFuZw=v=pJxJ06dfQhNg+8XF6_j3tobCThy6Sdk2hag@mail.gmail.com>

Also , looking at it and again without testing i'd say try not using the As
"myp" and just using the default...

*Public Sub Process_Kill()*



*WebLabel2.Text = "Kill" End*

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 16:59, Mayost Sharon <sharon at 455.co.il> wrote:

> Hello
>
> (For example I did sleep but in practice I need to run a command to
> convert that it takes some time)
>
> I'm trying to run any command in the background without WAIT
>
> so:
>
> Export
>
> Public Sub WebTimer1_Timer()
>
>   WebLabel1.Text = Now()
>
> End
>
> Public Sub WebButton1_Click()
>
>   Dim hProcess As Process
>
>   hProcess = Shell "sleep 5" As "myp"
>
> End
>
> Public Sub myp_Kill()
>
>   WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"
>
> End
>
>
> I see that it continues to the next line but on the page I see that the
> time display is stopped until the end of the command.
>
> At the end of the command he does not update what is inside the Kill event
> WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 24 20:29:13 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 20:29:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL or EXEC background with gb.web.gui
In-Reply-To: <20201224165718.M15415@455.co.il>
References: <20201224165718.M15415@455.co.il>
Message-ID: <e2d860f9-0b86-7817-028e-e5eb91d5b23c@gmail.com>

Le 24/12/2020 ? 17:58, Mayost Sharon a ?crit :
> Hello
> 
> (For example I did sleep but in practice I need to run a command to
> convert that it takes some time)
> 
> I'm trying to run any command in the background without WAIT
> 
> so:
> 
> Export
> 
> Public Sub WebTimer1_Timer()
> 
> WebLabel1.Text = Now()
> 
> End
> 
> Public Sub WebButton1_Click()
> 
> Dim hProcess As Process
> 
> hProcess = Shell "sleep 5" As "myp"
> 
> End
> 
> Public Sub myp_Kill()
> 
> WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"
> 
> End
> 
> 
> I see that it continues to the next line but on the page I see that
> the time display is stopped until the end of the command.

Normally WebTimer1_Timer() should work as expected. Can you post your 
project?

> 
> At the end of the command he does not update what is inside the Kill
> event WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"

Alas, as I explained in the other mail, rhe server cannot trigger 
anything on the client. It can only act in the response of a request 
coming from the client, which is normally a GUI interaction or a 
WebTimer tick.

Maybe there is two possible tricks :

1) Opening a request forever, so that at any moment the server can act 
by responding to it. The problem is that request timeout can occur at 
any moment. But maybe it is enough to restart the request in that case.

2) Using "WebSocket", a browser feature. But I have never used it, and 
never looked at the documentation. So maybe this is not possible.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From sharon at 455.co.il  Thu Dec 24 20:57:07 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:57:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL or EXEC background with gb.web.gui
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDBFuZw=v=pJxJ06dfQhNg+8XF6_j3tobCThy6Sdk2hag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20201224165718.M15415@455.co.il>
 <CABuQYCDBFuZw=v=pJxJ06dfQhNg+8XF6_j3tobCThy6Sdk2hag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20201224195534.M72314@455.co.il>



I see in the documentation of gambas:

In Gambas 3, there is no default event name anymore.
In other words, you must add AS "Process" to get the same behaviour as Gambas 2.


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
To: Gambas Mailing List <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Sent: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 18:53:02 +0000
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] SHELL or EXEC background with gb.web.gui

> Also , looking at it and again without testing i'd say try not using the As
> "myp" and just using the default...
> 
> *Public Sub Process_Kill()*
> 
> *WebLabel2.Text = "Kill" End*
> 
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 16:59, Mayost Sharon <sharon at 455.co.il> wrote:
> 
> > Hello
> >
> > (For example I did sleep but in practice I need to run a command to
> > convert that it takes some time)
> >
> > I'm trying to run any command in the background without WAIT
> >
> > so:
> >
> > Export
> >
> > Public Sub WebTimer1_Timer()
> >
> >   WebLabel1.Text = Now()
> >
> > End
> >
> > Public Sub WebButton1_Click()
> >
> >   Dim hProcess As Process
> >
> >   hProcess = Shell "sleep 5" As "myp"
> >
> > End
> >
> > Public Sub myp_Kill()
> >
> >   WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"
> >
> > End
> >
> >
> > I see that it continues to the next line but on the page I see that the
> > time display is stopped until the end of the command.
> >
> > At the end of the command he does not update what is inside the Kill event
> > WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
------- End of Original Message -------


From sharon at 455.co.il  Thu Dec 24 21:04:18 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:04:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebButton Visible gb.web.gui
Message-ID: <20201224200121.M76290@455.co.il>

Hello

When I run an event within:


Export

Public Sub WebButton3_Click()
  
  Dim var1 As String
  
  WebButton1.Visible = False
  
  var1 = "1"
  
  If var1 = "1" Then
    WebButton1.Visible = True
  Endif

End


The button is hidden and will not be visible again

I checked for other controls and it works well

Thanks

From sharon at 455.co.il  Thu Dec 24 21:20:31 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:20:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] dynamically timer gb.web.gui
In-Reply-To: <bba1b700-c1b8-2838-f8c7-4e1fd7db6d76@gmail.com>
References: <20201223204911.M6577@455.co.il>
 <bba1b700-c1b8-2838-f8c7-4e1fd7db6d76@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20201224202001.M74797@455.co.il>


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
Sent: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:47:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] dynamically timer gb.web.gui

> Le 23/12/2020 ? 21:50, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> > Hello
> > 
> > When I dynamically add a timer
> > As the following code:
> > 
> > Export
> > 
> > Public hConsoleTimer As Timer
> > 
> > Public Sub WebForm_Open()
> > 
> >    hConsoleTimer = New Timer As "MyTimer"
> >    hConsoleTimer.Delay = 1000
> >    hConsoleTimer.Enabled = True
> > 
> > End
> > 
> > Public Sub MyTimer_Timer()
> >    
> >    WebLabel1.Text = CString(Now())
> > 
> > End
> > 
> > It went into the event
> > But on the page I do not see the changes of time
> > 
> > If I manually add a timer and put it on the WebForm it works fine.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
> 
> It's because the GUI creates a "WebTimer", not a "Timer".
> 
> "Timer" ticks internally in the session server process, and can't force 
> an update of the web browser client, whereas "WebTimer" ticks in the 
> client web browser, and then can update the interface.
> 
> The update of the web page can only be done in a response to a request. 
> It cannot be forced from the server if a request has not been initiated 
> from the web browser, i.e. from a GUI event (bouton click, WebTimer 
> tick...).
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
------- End of Original Message -------

Thank you

From mike.crean at y7mail.com  Fri Dec 25 04:09:29 2020
From: mike.crean at y7mail.com (Mike Crean)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 03:09:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Christmas
References: <772779048.4288383.1608865769243.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <772779048.4288383.1608865769243@mail.yahoo.com>


Happy Christmas to every one from down under.


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From kicking177 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 25 10:55:55 2020
From: kicking177 at gmail.com (KKing)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 09:55:55 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Date fun again - IsDate and CDate localisation?
Message-ID: <28965c77-c5b5-3252-f31d-11bdabe0fc57@gmail.com>

> It's normal. IsDate() checks for local date, whereas CDate() does not.
> It only uses "C" date, i.e. American ones.
>
> Look at the documentation, it's written when a date function is for
> local dates or not.
ta, to me this is either inconsistent and or missing something. IMOO I 
would like to see them both work on local date basis and possibly have 
an optional localisation parameter for if and when an override may be 
required.
K.




From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 25 11:28:46 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:28:46 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE and VERSION
In-Reply-To: <7064253f-48dd-f90a-3b07-9da1b7dd29ff@wanadoo.fr>
References: <7064253f-48dd-f90a-3b07-9da1b7dd29ff@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBWoc2ynd-4ZaxvxhN=k_okojL5S8VUNPhWOaVqUDmgwg@mail.gmail.com>

So i figured this one out..
Reading this from
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb/application/version?ht=version+file

If the "Get from VERSION file" checkbox is checked, the program version is
taken from the first text file named VERSION found in the parent
directories of the project.

So answer is VERSION file must be in projects parent folder not project
folder.
So will have to make a sub folder and put VERSION file and project folder
in that.

Seems odd though,  Could the VERSION file be also looked for in project
folder Ben?
The IDE has no tooltip or any info to say VERSION file has to be in
"parent" folder. I had to search the wiki for that info.
I've submitted a merge request where i've simply re-arranged the 3 loop
commands so current dir is also searched for VERSION file.

BruceS

On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 16:56, Jean-Yvon <jean-yvon.renaut at wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Hello,
> In the IDE, menu "project" -> "properties".
> There is a box to hold: "Get from a 'VERSION' file"
> When the IDE is closed the box does not hold.
>
> Merry Christmas to all
> JY
>
>
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 25 12:17:09 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 11:17:09 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Christmas
In-Reply-To: <772779048.4288383.1608865769243@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <772779048.4288383.1608865769243.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <772779048.4288383.1608865769243@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBAoogC3+rtBGVNu3yCPT-2=VHYhduzDq1TQOsr3TuyPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you :)

Merry Christmas from the Isle of Wight :)


On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 at 03:10, Mike Crean via User <
user at lists.gambas-basic.org> wrote:

>
> Happy Christmas to every one from down under.
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Fri Dec 25 13:21:28 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 13:21:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Merry Christmas
Message-ID: <27c9ef0c-7de5-2acf-c278-109ae2bc4769@osnanet.de>

What a surprise! Started Gambas3 this morning, and I found little 
snowfall and bells ringing

Ever so cute, thank you, put a smile on my face :)

Merry Christmas to everyone here,

Rolf



From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Fri Dec 25 13:24:58 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 13:24:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] On Ubuntu 20 no qt4 libraries?
Message-ID: <733eeb97-10c1-7a23-514b-fbac6fceddac@osnanet.de>

Merry Christmas to everyone!

I installed a brand new Kubuntu 20.04 on my Laptop and fetched Gambas 
3.15.2 from the Gambas-team repo.

Before running it, I copied .config/gambas3 from the old HDD to keep my 
old settings. Everything running smoothy so far.

Now, when I load my projects, Gambas says "gb.qt4 and gb.qt4.ext 
missing" and the projects do not run properly. The two libraries aren't 
there in the components list, that's true.

But on my Ubuntu Mate 18.04 in the office, I have never experienced any 
problems with this, and I do not use the repos from Ubuntu for Gambas 
but the same version from Gambas-team. Shouldn't they be identical?

So what can I do? Thank you for your help.

Rolf



From Karl.Reinl at Fen-Net.de  Fri Dec 25 13:46:48 2020
From: Karl.Reinl at Fen-Net.de (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 13:46:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] On Ubuntu 20 no qt4 libraries?
In-Reply-To: <733eeb97-10c1-7a23-514b-fbac6fceddac@osnanet.de>
References: <733eeb97-10c1-7a23-514b-fbac6fceddac@osnanet.de>
Message-ID: <ffd0e7aa7b74627c6b0e12794759e690118677cd.camel@Fen-Net.de>

Am Freitag, den 25.12.2020, 13:24 +0100 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
> Merry Christmas to everyone!
> 
> I installed a brand new Kubuntu 20.04 on my Laptop and fetched
> Gambas 
> 3.15.2 from the Gambas-team repo.
> 
> Before running it, I copied .config/gambas3 from the old HDD to keep
> my 
> old settings. Everything running smoothy so far.
> 
> Now, when I load my projectthere is ns, Gambas says "gb.qt4 and
> gb.qt4.ext 
> missing" and the projects do not run properly. The two libraries
> aren't 
> there in the components list, that's true.
> 
> But on my Ubuntu Mate 18.04 in the office, I have never experienced
> any 
> problems with this, and I do not use the repos from Ubuntu for
> Gambas 
> but the same version from Gambas-team. Shouldn't they be identical?
> 
> So what can I do? Thank you for your help.
> 
> Rolf
> 
> 
Salut Rolf,

qt4 is no longer delivered with 20.04, you have to change to qt5 (in
project/properties/components) or better to gui.qt

-- 


From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Fri Dec 25 14:13:01 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:13:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] On Ubuntu 20 no qt4 libraries?
In-Reply-To: <ffd0e7aa7b74627c6b0e12794759e690118677cd.camel@Fen-Net.de>
References: <733eeb97-10c1-7a23-514b-fbac6fceddac@osnanet.de>
 <ffd0e7aa7b74627c6b0e12794759e690118677cd.camel@Fen-Net.de>
Message-ID: <1b00440e-86b6-7bfa-44ca-0dfe17b7f8a5@osnanet.de>


Am 25.12.20 um 13:46 schrieb Charlie Reinl:
> Am Freitag, den 25.12.2020, 13:24 +0100 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
>> Merry Christmas to everyone!
>>
>> I installed a brand new Kubuntu 20.04 on my Laptop and fetched
>> Gambas
>> 3.15.2 from the Gambas-team repo.
>>
>> Before running it, I copied .config/gambas3 from the old HDD to keep
>> my
>> old settings. Everything running smoothy so far.
>>
>> Now, when I load my projectthere is ns, Gambas says "gb.qt4 and
>> gb.qt4.ext
>> missing" and the projects do not run properly. The two libraries
>> aren't
>> there in the components list, that's true.
>>
>> But on my Ubuntu Mate 18.04 in the office, I have never experienced
>> any
>> problems with this, and I do not use the repos from Ubuntu for
>> Gambas
>> but the same version from Gambas-team. Shouldn't they be identical?
>>
>> So what can I do? Thank you for your help.
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>>
> Salut Rolf,
>
> qt4 is no longer delivered with 20.04, you have to change to qt5 (in
> project/properties/components) or better to gui.qt
>
Ah ok, so it adapts to missing libraries. I changed to gb.gui, and it 
seems to run flawlessly. What would be the advantage of gb.gui.qt over it?



From Karl.Reinl at Fen-Net.de  Fri Dec 25 14:24:32 2020
From: Karl.Reinl at Fen-Net.de (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:24:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] On Ubuntu 20 no qt4 libraries?
In-Reply-To: <1b00440e-86b6-7bfa-44ca-0dfe17b7f8a5@osnanet.de>
References: <733eeb97-10c1-7a23-514b-fbac6fceddac@osnanet.de>
 <ffd0e7aa7b74627c6b0e12794759e690118677cd.camel@Fen-Net.de>
 <1b00440e-86b6-7bfa-44ca-0dfe17b7f8a5@osnanet.de>
Message-ID: <d709da521b354e468d15b2473f1ab6f719b47e3d.camel@Fen-Net.de>

Am Freitag, den 25.12.2020, 14:13 +0100 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
> Am 25.12.20 um 13:46 schrieb Charlie Reinl:
> > Am Freitag, den 25.12.2020, 13:24 +0100 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
> > > Merry Christmas to everyone!
> > > 
> > > I installed a brand new Kubuntu 20.04 on my Laptop and fetched
> > > Gambas
> > > 3.15.2 from the Gambas-team repo.
> > > 
> > > Before running it, I copied .config/gambas3 from the old HDD to
> > > keep
> > > my
> > > old settings. Everything running smoothy so far.
> > > 
> > > Now, when I load my projectthere is ns, Gambas says "gb.qt4 and
> > > gb.qt4.ext
> > > missing" and the projects do not run properly. The two libraries
> > > aren't
> > > there in the components list, that's true.
> > > 
> > > But on my Ubuntu Mate 18.04 in the office, I have never
> > > experienced
> > > any
> > > problems with this, and I do not use the repos from Ubuntu for
> > > Gambas
> > > but the same version from Gambas-team. Shouldn't they be
> > > identical?
> > > 
> > > So what can I do? Thank you for your help.
> > > 
> > > Rolf
> > > 
> > > 
> > Salut Rolf,
> > 
> > qt4 is no longer delivered with 20.04, you have to change to qt5
> > (in
> > project/properties/components) or better to gui.qt
> > 
> Ah ok, so it adapts to missing libraries. I changed to gb.gui, and
> it 
> seems to run flawlessly. What would be the advantage of gb.gui.qt
> over it?
> 
it takes the one it finds qt4 or qt5. if both, I don't know
-- 
Amicalement
Charlie


From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 25 14:25:39 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 13:25:39 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] On Ubuntu 20 no qt4 libraries?
In-Reply-To: <1b00440e-86b6-7bfa-44ca-0dfe17b7f8a5@osnanet.de>
References: <733eeb97-10c1-7a23-514b-fbac6fceddac@osnanet.de>
 <ffd0e7aa7b74627c6b0e12794759e690118677cd.camel@Fen-Net.de>
 <1b00440e-86b6-7bfa-44ca-0dfe17b7f8a5@osnanet.de>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCUOgwa41Usvtv49BdRMKYuKSQRA3BUZimoTNa47jYQ8Q@mail.gmail.com>

gb.gui.qt will auto switch (or select with env) between qt4 and qt5.
gb.gui will switch between gtk2 gtk3 qt4 and qt5

If you do not require your program to be qt (as i would have assumed you
would as you used the qt4 component explicitly) then use gb.gui

Here's an explanation.
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.gui
BruceS




On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 at 13:14, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> wrote:

>
> Am 25.12.20 um 13:46 schrieb Charlie Reinl:
> > Am Freitag, den 25.12.2020, 13:24 +0100 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
> >> Merry Christmas to everyone!
> >>
> >> I installed a brand new Kubuntu 20.04 on my Laptop and fetched
> >> Gambas
> >> 3.15.2 from the Gambas-team repo.
> >>
> >> Before running it, I copied .config/gambas3 from the old HDD to keep
> >> my
> >> old settings. Everything running smoothy so far.
> >>
> >> Now, when I load my projectthere is ns, Gambas says "gb.qt4 and
> >> gb.qt4.ext
> >> missing" and the projects do not run properly. The two libraries
> >> aren't
> >> there in the components list, that's true.
> >>
> >> But on my Ubuntu Mate 18.04 in the office, I have never experienced
> >> any
> >> problems with this, and I do not use the repos from Ubuntu for
> >> Gambas
> >> but the same version from Gambas-team. Shouldn't they be identical?
> >>
> >> So what can I do? Thank you for your help.
> >>
> >> Rolf
> >>
> >>
> > Salut Rolf,
> >
> > qt4 is no longer delivered with 20.04, you have to change to qt5 (in
> > project/properties/components) or better to gui.qt
> >
> Ah ok, so it adapts to missing libraries. I changed to gb.gui, and it
> seems to run flawlessly. What would be the advantage of gb.gui.qt over it?
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Fri Dec 25 18:07:13 2020
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 18:07:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] On Ubuntu 20 no qt4 libraries?
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCUOgwa41Usvtv49BdRMKYuKSQRA3BUZimoTNa47jYQ8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <733eeb97-10c1-7a23-514b-fbac6fceddac@osnanet.de>
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The thing is, I don't know for sure. I do remember there were some 
things in gb.qt4.ext I used to apply, so if they can still be operated 
from gb.gui it will be ok. Time will show, I just cannot test every 
function right now.

Poppler is missing, at least I get a stroked-out gb.pdf component. What 
can I do here, do you have an idea? Can poppler be installed, or will I 
have to use some alternative library in my project? The wiki just tells 
me "deprecated"...

Regards
Rolf


Am 25.12.20 um 14:25 schrieb Bruce Steers:
> gb.gui.qt will auto switch (or select with env) between qt4 and qt5.
> gb.gui will switch between gtk2 gtk3 qt4 and qt5
>
> If you do not require your program to be qt (as i would have assumed 
> you would as you used the qt4 component explicitly) then use gb.gui
>
> Here's an explanation.
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.gui
> BruceS
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 at 13:14, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de 
> <mailto:rwe-sse at osnanet.de>> wrote:
>
>
>     Am 25.12.20 um 13:46 schrieb Charlie Reinl:
>     > Am Freitag, den 25.12.2020, 13:24 +0100 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
>     >> Merry Christmas to everyone!
>     >>
>     >> I installed a brand new Kubuntu 20.04 on my Laptop and fetched
>     >> Gambas
>     >> 3.15.2 from the Gambas-team repo.
>     >>
>     >> Before running it, I copied .config/gambas3 from the old HDD to
>     keep
>     >> my
>     >> old settings. Everything running smoothy so far.
>     >>
>     >> Now, when I load my projectthere is ns, Gambas says "gb.qt4 and
>     >> gb.qt4.ext
>     >> missing" and the projects do not run properly. The two libraries
>     >> aren't
>     >> there in the components list, that's true.
>     >>
>     >> But on my Ubuntu Mate 18.04 in the office, I have never experienced
>     >> any
>     >> problems with this, and I do not use the repos from Ubuntu for
>     >> Gambas
>     >> but the same version from Gambas-team. Shouldn't they be identical?
>     >>
>     >> So what can I do? Thank you for your help.
>     >>
>     >> Rolf
>     >>
>     >>
>     > Salut Rolf,
>     >
>     > qt4 is no longer delivered with 20.04, you have to change to qt5 (in
>     > project/properties/components) or better to gui.qt
>     >
>     Ah ok, so it adapts to missing libraries. I changed to gb.gui, and it
>     seems to run flawlessly. What would be the advantage of gb.gui.qt
>     over it?
>
>
>
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Dec 25 19:05:34 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:05:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] On Ubuntu 20 no qt4 libraries?
In-Reply-To: <d390526d-b857-cef4-553d-c1826e2505da@osnanet.de>
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Il giorno ven 25 dic 2020 alle ore 18:08 Rolf-Werner Eilert <
rwe-sse at osnanet.de> ha scritto:

> The thing is, I don't know for sure. I do remember there were some things
> in gb.qt4.ext I used to apply, so if they can still be operated from gb.gui
> it will be ok. Time will show, I just cannot test every function right now.
>
> Poppler is missing, at least I get a stroked-out gb.pdf component. What
> can I do here, do you have an idea? Can poppler be installed, or will I
> have to use some alternative library in my project? The wiki just tells me
> "deprecated"...
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>

I went from Ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04 without problems because I have been
using gb.gui.qt for years now, which chooses the correct version of qt and
works both with qt4 and qt5.
If you have qt4.ext that are not handled by gb.gui.qt then you need to
check the gb.qt5 and gb.qt5.ext libraries.
Use gb.poppler instead of gb.pdf.

I recommend you to insert a qt launcher for the ide.
Write this in /home/<your user>/.local/share/applications/gambas3.gambas
-------------------------------------------------
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Gambas3
#Exec=gambas3
Exec=env GB_GUI=gb.qt5 gambas3
GenericName=Gambas 3 IDE
Comment=Gambas3 Integrated Development Environment
Icon=gambas3
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Development;IDE;
StartupNotify=true
--------------------------------------------------

and when you want to start the ide with the gtk3 write gambas3 in a
terminal.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 25 20:37:31 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:37:31 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] On Ubuntu 20 no qt4 libraries?
In-Reply-To: <d390526d-b857-cef4-553d-c1826e2505da@osnanet.de>
References: <733eeb97-10c1-7a23-514b-fbac6fceddac@osnanet.de>
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Team gambas repo has listed gb.pdf and gb.popler , are you sure you have
downloaded and installed the pdf/poppler components?
I do not think they auto-install when just selecting the Gambas3 install.
you have to select gb.pdf or gb.poppler to install.

Or use apt
*sudo apt-get install gambas3-gb-pdf gambas3-gb-poppler*

QT and GTK are programmed in gambas the same. there are slight differences
in behaviour.
Only real difference will be if you wanted a web viewer. before latest
Gambas there has only been the qt-webkit so if you wanted a web viewer it
had to be a QT app.
Otherwise it's best to use gb.gui as then program will run on anything
depending on the desktop. or at least have the choice of gui using the env
prefix.

BruceS


On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 at 17:08, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de> wrote:

> The thing is, I don't know for sure. I do remember there were some things
> in gb.qt4.ext I used to apply, so if they can still be operated from gb.gui
> it will be ok. Time will show, I just cannot test every function right now.
>
> Poppler is missing, at least I get a stroked-out gb.pdf component. What
> can I do here, do you have an idea? Can poppler be installed, or will I
> have to use some alternative library in my project? The wiki just tells me
> "deprecated"...
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>
>
> Am 25.12.20 um 14:25 schrieb Bruce Steers:
>
> gb.gui.qt will auto switch (or select with env) between qt4 and qt5.
> gb.gui will switch between gtk2 gtk3 qt4 and qt5
>
> If you do not require your program to be qt (as i would have assumed you
> would as you used the qt4 component explicitly) then use gb.gui
>
> Here's an explanation.
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.gui
> BruceS
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 at 13:14, Rolf-Werner Eilert <rwe-sse at osnanet.de>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 25.12.20 um 13:46 schrieb Charlie Reinl:
>> > Am Freitag, den 25.12.2020, 13:24 +0100 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
>> >> Merry Christmas to everyone!
>> >>
>> >> I installed a brand new Kubuntu 20.04 on my Laptop and fetched
>> >> Gambas
>> >> 3.15.2 from the Gambas-team repo.
>> >>
>> >> Before running it, I copied .config/gambas3 from the old HDD to keep
>> >> my
>> >> old settings. Everything running smoothy so far.
>> >>
>> >> Now, when I load my projectthere is ns, Gambas says "gb.qt4 and
>> >> gb.qt4.ext
>> >> missing" and the projects do not run properly. The two libraries
>> >> aren't
>> >> there in the components list, that's true.
>> >>
>> >> But on my Ubuntu Mate 18.04 in the office, I have never experienced
>> >> any
>> >> problems with this, and I do not use the repos from Ubuntu for
>> >> Gambas
>> >> but the same version from Gambas-team. Shouldn't they be identical?
>> >>
>> >> So what can I do? Thank you for your help.
>> >>
>> >> Rolf
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Salut Rolf,
>> >
>> > qt4 is no longer delivered with 20.04, you have to change to qt5 (in
>> > project/properties/components) or better to gui.qt
>> >
>> Ah ok, so it adapts to missing libraries. I changed to gb.gui, and it
>> seems to run flawlessly. What would be the advantage of gb.gui.qt over it?
>>
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From isafiur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 09:47:57 2020
From: isafiur at gmail.com (Safiur Rahman)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 14:32:57 +0545
Subject: [Gambas-user] DB.Debug in gb.web.gui
Message-ID: <CADKn0TKJPy7AHH9fv+c0FPqOM6rki4FrRghoWi0a-wWpTOKHsQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

Setting Db.Debug flag to True throws all queries to standard error
output. However how can I view the output of web application database
queries using gb.web.gui?

Regards

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 18:43:51 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 18:43:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE and VERSION
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBWoc2ynd-4ZaxvxhN=k_okojL5S8VUNPhWOaVqUDmgwg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7064253f-48dd-f90a-3b07-9da1b7dd29ff@wanadoo.fr>
 <CABuQYCBWoc2ynd-4ZaxvxhN=k_okojL5S8VUNPhWOaVqUDmgwg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aedc291d-cfa9-be0c-4bbf-c20beaa511d6@gmail.com>

Le 25/12/2020 ? 11:28, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> So i figured this one out..
> Reading this from 
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb/application/version?ht=version+file
> 
> If the "Get from VERSION file" checkbox is checked, the program version 
> is taken from the first text file named |VERSION| found in the parent 
> directories of the project.
> 
> So answer is VERSION file must be in projects parent folder not project 
> folder.
> So will have to make a sub folder and put VERSION file and project 
> folder in that.
> 
> Seems odd though,? Could the VERSION file be also looked for in project 
> folder Ben?

What for? The VERSION file is just a facility when you have several 
different projects that need to have the same version number.

Otherwise, just select the version directly in the project properties 
dialog.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 18:45:03 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 18:45:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Christmas
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBAoogC3+rtBGVNu3yCPT-2=VHYhduzDq1TQOsr3TuyPQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Le 25/12/2020 ? 12:17, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> Thank you :)
> 
> Merry Christmas from the Isle of Wight :)
> 
> 
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 at 03:10, Mike Crean via User 
> <user at lists.gambas-basic.org <mailto:user at lists.gambas-basic.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Happy Christmas to every one from down under.
> 
> 

Thank you! Merry X-Mas to everyone. I'm late, but I was not in front of 
my computer. :-)

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 18:49:38 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 18:49:38 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] DB.Debug in gb.web.gui
In-Reply-To: <CADKn0TKJPy7AHH9fv+c0FPqOM6rki4FrRghoWi0a-wWpTOKHsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADKn0TKJPy7AHH9fv+c0FPqOM6rki4FrRghoWi0a-wWpTOKHsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <31f4d33a-cde6-e66f-6b3c-3f73e4f0dbad@gmail.com>

Le 26/12/2020 ? 09:47, Safiur Rahman a ?crit?:
> Hi
> 
> Setting Db.Debug flag to True throws all queries to standard error
> output. However how can I view the output of web application database
> queries using gb.web.gui?
> 
> Regards
> 

I'm aware of the problem. :-)

I know that some web server redirect the standard error output of CGI 
scripts in a log file. You may look in that direction.

Otherwise you must wait until I find a good solution.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 21:00:12 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 20:00:12 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE and VERSION
In-Reply-To: <aedc291d-cfa9-be0c-4bbf-c20beaa511d6@gmail.com>
References: <7064253f-48dd-f90a-3b07-9da1b7dd29ff@wanadoo.fr>
 <CABuQYCBWoc2ynd-4ZaxvxhN=k_okojL5S8VUNPhWOaVqUDmgwg@mail.gmail.com>
 <aedc291d-cfa9-be0c-4bbf-c20beaa511d6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCAtEbEDWuPf60uJMvBWo_7OvUHQBVes7YHRHtLLqbfALw@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, sorry , after i submitted the merge i realised and explained to Jean
(they were responding privately) That i don't think it will be accepted or
really needed and pretty much said what you said, if only one project may
as well just use the IDE.

Sorry to waste time.
BruceS

On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 17:44, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 25/12/2020 ? 11:28, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > So i figured this one out..
> > Reading this from
> > http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb/application/version?ht=version+file
> >
> > If the "Get from VERSION file" checkbox is checked, the program version
> > is taken from the first text file named |VERSION| found in the parent
> > directories of the project.
> >
> > So answer is VERSION file must be in projects parent folder not project
> > folder.
> > So will have to make a sub folder and put VERSION file and project
> > folder in that.
> >
> > Seems odd though,  Could the VERSION file be also looked for in project
> > folder Ben?
>
> What for? The VERSION file is just a facility when you have several
> different projects that need to have the same version number.
>
> Otherwise, just select the version directly in the project properties
> dialog.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 21:05:18 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 21:05:18 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE and VERSION
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Le 26/12/2020 ? 21:00, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> Yes, sorry , after i submitted the merge i realised and explained to 
> Jean (they were responding privately) That i don't think it will be 
> accepted or really needed and pretty much said what you said, if only 
> one project may as well just use the IDE.
> 
> Sorry to waste time.
> BruceS
> 

No problem. I didn't see your merge request, I came back online this 
afternoon only.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 01:24:35 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 00:24:35 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE and VERSION
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It's cool, the merge wasn't much. I canceled it when i saw your reply as it
did confirm what i already suspected.
.
This loop at line 2967 in App/src/Gambas3/.src/Project.Module






*  sDir = Project.Dir  Do    sDir = File.Dir(sDir)    If sDir = "/" Then
Return True    If Exist(sDir &/ "VERSION") Then Break  Loop*

I simply rearranged the order to ...







*  sDir = Project.Dir  Do    If Exist(sDir &/ "VERSION") Then Break    If
sDir = "/" Then Return True    sDir = File.Dir(sDir)  Loop*
That way it also checked Project Dir (and also top level dir /).

But yeah , not really needed i guess.
the only reason i ever wanted to use a VERSION file for single project was
to ensure Version stays the same (sometimes if i load a project and compile
in different/older versions of Gambas i loose the "Do Not Increment
Version" setting and it starts clocking up again) I figured a VERSION file
would keep it the same.

It gave me something to do on an otherwise pretty boring Christmas day at
least :)
All the best
BruceS


On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 20:06, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 26/12/2020 ? 21:00, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > Yes, sorry , after i submitted the merge i realised and explained to
> > Jean (they were responding privately) That i don't think it will be
> > accepted or really needed and pretty much said what you said, if only
> > one project may as well just use the IDE.
> >
> > Sorry to waste time.
> > BruceS
> >
>
> No problem. I didn't see your merge request, I came back online this
> afternoon only.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From hans at gambas-buch.de  Sun Dec 27 11:29:44 2020
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:29:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Session.CookiePath
Message-ID: <6878dbf5-1d90-42f3-3e12-c11863df1793@gambas-buch.de>

Hello,

while working with the Session class I used the following source code:

<%
 ?Print "<br>SESSION-COOKIE-PATH = "; Application.Root;
 ?Print "<br>SESSION-COOKIE-PATH = "; CGI["SCRIPT_NAME"];
 ?Print "<br>SESSION-COOKIE-PATH = "; Session.CookiePath;
%>

I expected three identical results.

But these are the results:

SESSION-COOKIE-PATH =
SESSION-COOKIE-PATH = /.
SESSION-COOKIE-PATH =

Where is the error?

With kind regards

Hans

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 13:02:01 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 13:02:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Session.CookiePath
In-Reply-To: <6878dbf5-1d90-42f3-3e12-c11863df1793@gambas-buch.de>
References: <6878dbf5-1d90-42f3-3e12-c11863df1793@gambas-buch.de>
Message-ID: <1db49405-6d41-d9f6-3718-5070c40e5146@gmail.com>

Le 27/12/2020 ? 11:29, Hans Lehmann a ?crit?:
> Hello,
> 
> while working with the Session class I used the following source code:
> 
> <%
>  ?Print "<br>SESSION-COOKIE-PATH = "; Application.Root;
>  ?Print "<br>SESSION-COOKIE-PATH = "; CGI["SCRIPT_NAME"];
>  ?Print "<br>SESSION-COOKIE-PATH = "; Session.CookiePath;
> %>
> 
> I expected three identical results.
> 
> But these are the results:
> 
> SESSION-COOKIE-PATH =
> SESSION-COOKIE-PATH = /.
> SESSION-COOKIE-PATH =
> 
> Where is the error?
> 
> With kind regards
> 
> Hans
> 

Application.Root normalizes CGI["SCRIPT_NAME"], and returns "" when its 
value is "./" or "/".

And when Session.CookiePath is void, the contents of CGI["SCRIPT_NAME"] 
is used, except that "/." is replaced by "/" in that case.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From mckaygerhard at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 16:27:00 2020
From: mckaygerhard at gmail.com (PICCORO McKAY Lenz)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:27:00 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE and VERSION
In-Reply-To: <aedc291d-cfa9-be0c-4bbf-c20beaa511d6@gmail.com>
References: <7064253f-48dd-f90a-3b07-9da1b7dd29ff@wanadoo.fr>
 <CABuQYCBWoc2ynd-4ZaxvxhN=k_okojL5S8VUNPhWOaVqUDmgwg@mail.gmail.com>
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El s?b, 26 de dic. de 2020 a la(s) 13:44, Beno?t Minisini (g4mba5 at gmail.com)
escribi?:

> Le 25/12/2020 ? 11:28, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> >
> > So answer is VERSION file must be in projects parent folder not project
> > folder.
> > So will have to make a sub folder and put VERSION file and project
> > folder in that.
>
interersting.. i asked several months ago this and my response was unclear
but not arges so much later..

but now.. i plenny understan.. but that information is not so clear in
wiki! maybe is better clarify and put some context cos we have languaje
barried here! take note of.. guys!


> >
> > Seems odd though,  Could the VERSION file be also looked for in project
> > folder Ben?
>
> What for? The VERSION file is just a facility when you have several
> different projects that need to have the same version number.
>
> Otherwise, just select the version directly in the project properties
> dialog.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Dec 27 20:39:22 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:39:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words
In-Reply-To: <d214ab97-58a8-e299-3eca-58ec861a2b70@ea7dfh.com>
References: <1340799687.503.1608580889284.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
 <CAJ2rqFbDWDAE2iQFHR0LeL2Eq7r5bE+RUEReGiGgB_rS525PFw@mail.gmail.com>
 <723150932.596.1608590924113.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>
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Message-ID: <537011116.482.1609097962192.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

The app allows to search for *err* or const* or any regular expression Which looks only at the ref links in the wiki which filters out a lot of the useless list that google returns, which sure helps finding what your looking for quickly .. 

Even when you create your own search engine.

Oh well!

Thank You
Brian G

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesus Guardon" <ea7dfh at ea7dfh.com>
To: "Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 3:30:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Tool to search Gambas Wiki, for key words

El 22/12/20 a las 15:18, Bruce Steers escribi?:

> google (and other crawlers) are a bit rubbish with gambas , i mostly get
> results about tapas bars selling prawn dishes lol ;)

Well, that's true if you are not filtering the results. You can add 
"site:gambaswiki.org" to your search terms or use a custom search 
created with a tool provided by them. This is the page you may use to 
program your custom searches:

https://programmablesearchengine.google.com/cse/create/new

And this one is a gambaswiki.org custom search made by this tool. Yeah, 
simple enough and rudimentary, but it works.

https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=47ba325fafb4a5256

You could then add this link to your bookmarks and you're done!

Regards

Jesus

----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Sun Dec 27 21:00:17 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 12:00:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Debug messages .. errors
Message-ID: <1113505833.560.1609099217365.JavaMail.zimbra@westwoodsvcs.com>

Lately I Have been getting a debug error and my app just exits 

this error 

warning: debugger I/O error: Success 

Has anyone else started getting this error? 
Any ideas what it might be. 
It seem to happen mostly if I sit and examine data for a while when stepping thru an app 

It is not repeatable it is completely random. 

It's OK, if you're old and grey! 
Brian G 
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 22:02:31 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 21:02:31 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Property Something as String Use $Something
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDWexJnxgmGVtBeWOa+g8LPRd6c1LR8iT6uNXVVJFLN3w@mail.gmail.com>

Example..

*Property* Something *As* String *Use* $Something

I like this method as it saves time and code but i do not like this method
because it also makes the $Something variable Public.
Should it not be Private?
I'm thinking as the Property Name "Something" is Public the "$Something"
part should automatically be Private.

Or if it's wanted that way could we get a UsePrivate or something?
like...
*Property* Something *As* String *Use**Private* $Something
Or...
*Property* Something *As* String *Use* *Private* $Something
Or...
*Property* Something *As* String *Private* $Something

Thank you kindly :)
Happy Yule
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 22:22:01 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 21:22:01 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Property Something as String Use $Something
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDWexJnxgmGVtBeWOa+g8LPRd6c1LR8iT6uNXVVJFLN3w@mail.gmail.com>
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> I like this method as it saves time and code but i do not like this
method because it also makes the $Something variable Public.

> Should it not be Private?
>

Turns out it's not actually a Public Variable as it says
"Unknown symbol '$Something in Someclass.class'" if i try to write to it
from another class/module but I can see it listed in the IDE popup.

I'm thinking i found a glitch.
Much love
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 22:39:58 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 22:39:58 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Property Something as String Use $Something
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDh4gLrsdj7_Br4MLdbzMPpnXusvEkhxrp+kzOtqZiyyg@mail.gmail.com>
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Il giorno dom 27 dic 2020 alle ore 22:23 Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> > I like this method as it saves time and code but i do not like this
> method because it also makes the $Something variable Public.
>
>> Should it not be Private?
>>
>
> Turns out it's not actually a Public Variable as it says
> "Unknown symbol '$Something in Someclass.class'" if i try to write to it
> from another class/module but I can see it listed in the IDE popup.
>
> I'm thinking i found a glitch.
> Much love
>

I had reported this in August, see here:

https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2020-August/069923.html

Fabien Bodard's answers follow...

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 23:02:06 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 22:02:06 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Property Something as String Use $Something
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYGjc=MnN3dHzFw3dDiBZYEb3xMTT820uRSbnRaORoarA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCDWexJnxgmGVtBeWOa+g8LPRd6c1LR8iT6uNXVVJFLN3w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCDjnc-GiUnoF-fkvcJ2ZoiNcV-3L+-90fQoOgpGD6vbAQ@mail.gmail.com>

Aah yes , it's certainly the IDE.
My guess is the popup list looks for the word Private and hides those
variables but as this method does not use Private it thinks they should be
shown.

Did you post it on the Bugtracker?

Cheers
BruceS

On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 at 21:41, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Il giorno dom 27 dic 2020 alle ore 22:23 Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>> > I like this method as it saves time and code but i do not like this
>> method because it also makes the $Something variable Public.
>>
>>> Should it not be Private?
>>>
>>
>> Turns out it's not actually a Public Variable as it says
>> "Unknown symbol '$Something in Someclass.class'" if i try to write to it
>> from another class/module but I can see it listed in the IDE popup.
>>
>> I'm thinking i found a glitch.
>> Much love
>>
>
> I had reported this in August, see here:
>
> https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2020-August/069923.html
>
> Fabien Bodard's answers follow...
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From sharon at 455.co.il  Mon Dec 28 09:43:14 2020
From: sharon at 455.co.il (Mayost Sharon)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:43:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] SHELL or EXEC background with gb.web.gui
In-Reply-To: <e2d860f9-0b86-7817-028e-e5eb91d5b23c@gmail.com>
References: <20201224165718.M15415@455.co.il>
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Message-ID: <20201228084150.M24525@455.co.il>


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
Sent: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 20:29:13 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] SHELL or EXEC background with gb.web.gui

> Le 24/12/2020 ? 17:58, Mayost Sharon a ?crit :
> > Hello
> > 
> > (For example I did sleep but in practice I need to run a command to
> > convert that it takes some time)
> > 
> > I'm trying to run any command in the background without WAIT
> > 
> > so:
> > 
> > Export
> > 
> > Public Sub WebTimer1_Timer()
> > 
> > WebLabel1.Text = Now()
> > 
> > End
> > 
> > Public Sub WebButton1_Click()
> > 
> > Dim hProcess As Process
> > 
> > hProcess = Shell "sleep 5" As "myp"
> > 
> > End
> > 
> > Public Sub myp_Kill()
> > 
> > WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"
> > 
> > End
> > 
> > 
> > I see that it continues to the next line but on the page I see that
> > the time display is stopped until the end of the command.
> 
> Normally WebTimer1_Timer() should work as expected. Can you post your 
> project?
> 
> > 
> > At the end of the command he does not update what is inside the Kill
> > event WebLabel2.Text = "Kill"
> 
> Alas, as I explained in the other mail, rhe server cannot trigger 
> anything on the client. It can only act in the response of a request 
> coming from the client, which is normally a GUI interaction or a 
> WebTimer tick.
> 
> Maybe there is two possible tricks :
> 
> 1) Opening a request forever, so that at any moment the server can act 
> by responding to it. The problem is that request timeout can occur at 
> any moment. But maybe it is enough to restart the request in that case.
> 
> 2) Using "WebSocket", a browser feature. But I have never used it, and 
> never looked at the documentation. So maybe this is not possible.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
------- End of Original Message -------

Hello

I am attaching a project

Sorry
It seems to me because of my English you did not understand me correctly:

The shell command should run the command on the server. (Like the exec command within PHP).

So my question is if the command is supposed to take a long time on the server then I can not use it?
That bad!

That's why in the previous email she wrote to me:
  do not be synchronous, be asynchronous using the event loop!

It does not work

I also tried to add the character "&" at the end of the command and also did not work.

Many thanks
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec 28 09:48:06 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 09:48:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Property Something as String Use $Something
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDjnc-GiUnoF-fkvcJ2ZoiNcV-3L+-90fQoOgpGD6vbAQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Il giorno dom 27 dic 2020 alle ore 23:03 Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> ...
> Did you post it on the Bugtracker?
>
> Cheers
> BruceS
>

Now, yes...

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec 28 10:21:45 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:21:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Crontab and Gambas executable
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Il giorno mar 22 dic 2020 alle ore 00:01 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> If you are using `crontab -e`, then you are not editing /etc/crontab. You
> are editing the crontab for the user that executes
> that command. You can check what is in your per-user crontab with `crontab
> -l`. User crontabs should be found in
> /var/spool/crontab or /var/spool/cron/tab. User crontabs do not have a
> 'user' field, /etc/crontab does.
>
> To check if the command is actually being run, you can check the
> /var/log/messages file or append something like
> '>/tmp/debug.out 2>&1' to the end of your crontab line.
>

Sorry for the delay in replying.
Cron is not suitable for launching GUI, but you could do this if you wanted
to:

(run gedit every 5 minutes ;-))
* / 5 * * * * env DISPLAY =: 0 gedit

I decided to give up also because cron is about to be abandoned in favor of
Systemd, and also it was not my problem I do not administer any system, but
if I have a similar problem and I cannot solve it, do not doubt that I will
not come here to to ask :-)

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 28 12:46:57 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 11:46:57 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Property Something as String Use $Something
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFaA6DAD1j-JGPVmttNBKJbJMbj7fABU=bdHBwS=EOSXYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCDWexJnxgmGVtBeWOa+g8LPRd6c1LR8iT6uNXVVJFLN3w@mail.gmail.com>
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Excellent :)
Bugtracker is a much better/official way to report things that seem wrong.
I think posts on this list can get missed or forgotten about but the
bugtracker is a veritable "todo" list Ben works through when he has the
time.

My general practice is to first ask here to check if I've actually found a
bug or i'm just being an idiot lol ;)
If i have not been a fool and i have found a bug then I officially add it
to the bugtracker

Well wishes
BruceS

On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 08:49, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Il giorno dom 27 dic 2020 alle ore 23:03 Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>> ...
>> Did you post it on the Bugtracker?
>>
>> Cheers
>> BruceS
>>
>
> Now, yes...
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 28 14:31:53 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 13:31:53 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] (no subject)
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCYJ74OKQHBG5A-7WL8c_fO+WOjdjkP9cCXuCGUmmuXeQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have been looking around but not found much about getting disk drive
information.

like lsblk

i made a component called gb.shell.tools (very WIP at mo)
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/gb.shell.tools/comp/src/gb.shell.tools/.src

The premise...
Utilise some linux shell commands for things not so available/easy in
gambas. (afaik)

So far i've added 2 commands that use lsblk to get disk info.
The first a basic ListDisks() that returns a String[] of disk paths
using *lsblk
-lno "PATH"*

The other is LiskBlocks() that returns a DeviceInfo[] array with info lsblk
finds
DeviceInfo.Path
DeviceInfo.Name
DeviceInfo.Type
DeviceInfo.Size
DeviceInfo.ByteSize
DeviceInfo.UUID
DeviceInfo.FSType
DeviceInfo.Label
DeviceInfo.Mountpoint

My questions are...
1. Is there a more gambas way to do this rather than using lsblk so it's
not even needed?

2. Is this a good idea that maybe you could suggest other shell commands
you might want added to a component like this?

3. Is this a terrible idea and i should be looking into external library
functions or a gambas thing
that already exists to get disk info?

If it is better to use an external lib then if someone can point me in the
right direction on using something like liblsblk or some other way to get
disk info i'm up for making a better class.

Cheers anyone
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 28 14:57:34 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 13:57:34 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCYJ74OKQHBG5A-7WL8c_fO+WOjdjkP9cCXuCGUmmuXeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCYJ74OKQHBG5A-7WL8c_fO+WOjdjkP9cCXuCGUmmuXeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDvg52+M9owQHkPsf3zgJm=qfd2xP1WigO9H97cLofYPA@mail.gmail.com>

My apologies i did not add a subject :(


On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 13:31, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have been looking around but not found much about getting disk drive
> information.
>
> like lsblk
>
> i made a component called gb.shell.tools (very WIP at mo)
>
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/gb.shell.tools/comp/src/gb.shell.tools/.src
>
> The premise...
> Utilise some linux shell commands for things not so available/easy in
> gambas. (afaik)
>
> So far i've added 2 commands that use lsblk to get disk info.
> The first a basic ListDisks() that returns a String[] of disk paths using *lsblk
> -lno "PATH"*
>
> The other is LiskBlocks() that returns a DeviceInfo[] array with info
> lsblk finds
> DeviceInfo.Path
> DeviceInfo.Name
> DeviceInfo.Type
> DeviceInfo.Size
> DeviceInfo.ByteSize
> DeviceInfo.UUID
> DeviceInfo.FSType
> DeviceInfo.Label
> DeviceInfo.Mountpoint
>
> My questions are...
> 1. Is there a more gambas way to do this rather than using lsblk so it's
> not even needed?
>
> 2. Is this a good idea that maybe you could suggest other shell commands
> you might want added to a component like this?
>
> 3. Is this a terrible idea and i should be looking into external library
> functions or a gambas thing
> that already exists to get disk info?
>
> If it is better to use an external lib then if someone can point me in the
> right direction on using something like liblsblk or some other way to get
> disk info i'm up for making a better class.
>
> Cheers anyone
> BruceS
>
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From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Mon Dec 28 17:04:37 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 11:04:37 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDvg52+M9owQHkPsf3zgJm=qfd2xP1WigO9H97cLofYPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCYJ74OKQHBG5A-7WL8c_fO+WOjdjkP9cCXuCGUmmuXeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDvg52+M9owQHkPsf3zgJm=qfd2xP1WigO9H97cLofYPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6eae0ea3-99aa-f68e-a8a3-8c9244ba654c@ajm-software.com>

I'd suggest a staged approach. First stage would be to put a class 
together and put it in the Software Farm.? People could then try it out, 
test it and suggest additions.? Second stage would be to add it to 
Gambas.? To ease packaging issues, I'd recommend adding the class to a 
related existing component.

Some potential additions: system-related info like memory used, 
available, total (/proc/meminfo).? CPU usage (/proc/stat), cpu/system 
temps (/sys/class/hwmon or sensors), graphics (lspci | grep vga).? See 
PcInfo in Software Farm.

Since most of this data is only needed once, the overhead involved in 
shell calls can be ignored.? The only data that requires frequent calls 
is cpu usage.? /proc/stat data is cumulative since last boot.? To get 
current data, you need to call it about every second.

On 2020-12-28 8:57 a.m., Bruce Steers wrote:
> My apologies i did not add a subject :(
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 13:31, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I have been looking around but not found much about getting disk
>     drive information.
>
>     like lsblk
>
>     i made a component called gb.shell.tools (very WIP at mo)
>     https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/gb.shell.tools/comp/src/gb.shell.tools/.src
>     <https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/gb.shell.tools/comp/src/gb.shell.tools/.src>
>
>     The premise...
>     Utilise some linux shell commands for things not so available/easy
>     in gambas. (afaik)
>
>     So far i've added 2 commands that use lsblk to get disk info.
>     The first a basic ListDisks() that returns a String[] of disk
>     paths using *lsblk -lno "PATH"*
>
>     The other is LiskBlocks() that returns a DeviceInfo[] array with
>     info lsblk finds
>     DeviceInfo.Path
>     DeviceInfo.Name
>     DeviceInfo.Type
>     DeviceInfo.Size
>     DeviceInfo.ByteSize
>     DeviceInfo.UUID
>     DeviceInfo.FSType
>     DeviceInfo.Label
>     DeviceInfo.Mountpoint
>
>     My questions are...
>     1. Is there a more gambas way to do this rather than using lsblk
>     so it's not even needed?
>
>     2. Is this a good idea that maybe you could suggest other shell
>     commands you might want added to a component like this?
>
>     3. Is this a terrible idea and i should be looking into external
>     library functions or a gambas thing
>     that already exists to get disk info?
>
>     If it is better to use an external lib then if someone can point
>     me in the right direction on using something like liblsblk or some
>     other way to get disk info i'm up for making a better class.
>
>     Cheers anyone
>     BruceS
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 28 18:16:02 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:16:02 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCYJ74OKQHBG5A-7WL8c_fO+WOjdjkP9cCXuCGUmmuXeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCYJ74OKQHBG5A-7WL8c_fO+WOjdjkP9cCXuCGUmmuXeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a41ccee7-652f-f648-77e1-322d4662cd6a@gmail.com>

Le 28/12/2020 ? 14:31, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> I have been looking around but not found much about getting disk drive 
> information.
> 
> like lsblk
> 
> i made a component called gb.shell.tools (very WIP at mo)
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/gb.shell.tools/comp/src/gb.shell.tools/.src
> 

Such things should not be Linux-only. They should work on BSD too.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 28 21:20:32 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 20:20:32 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <a41ccee7-652f-f648-77e1-322d4662cd6a@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCYJ74OKQHBG5A-7WL8c_fO+WOjdjkP9cCXuCGUmmuXeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a41ccee7-652f-f648-77e1-322d4662cd6a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCA9Ja-PRMgRPo+kwi11JHTJEYi2-em1cuFQ4m7vE2cZWQ@mail.gmail.com>

okay , downloading FreeBSD and OpenBSD now, will see what i can discover.

I have some other ideas for it like maybe being able to quickly add custom
shell commands somehow as i have with lsblk and get the output in object
form or other.
Not sure where else to go with "shell.tools" yet though as I say a WIP.
possible potential.



On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 17:17, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 28/12/2020 ? 14:31, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > I have been looking around but not found much about getting disk drive
> > information.
> >
> > like lsblk
> >
> > i made a component called gb.shell.tools (very WIP at mo)
> >
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/gb.shell.tools/comp/src/gb.shell.tools/.src
> >
>
> Such things should not be Linux-only. They should work on BSD too.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 08:01:12 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 08:01:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Disk devices info and management
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL7DBXBMFaJ1avE=v9QspK00SJv88ETZFB-JG+331z8_ag@mail.gmail.com>

>From Bruce :

I have been looking around but not found much about getting disk drive
information.

like lsblk

i made a component called gb.shell.tools (very WIP at mo)
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/gb.shell.tools/comp/src/gb.shell.tools/.src

The premise...
Utilise some linux shell commands for things not so available/easy in
gambas. (afaik)

So far i've added 2 commands that use lsblk to get disk info.
The first a basic ListDisks() that returns a String[] of disk paths
using *lsblk
-lno "PATH"*

The other is LiskBlocks() that returns a DeviceInfo[] array with info lsblk
finds
DeviceInfo.Path
DeviceInfo.Name
DeviceInfo.Type
DeviceInfo.Size
DeviceInfo.ByteSize
DeviceInfo.UUID
DeviceInfo.FSType
DeviceInfo.Label
DeviceInfo.Mountpoint

My questions are...
1. Is there a more gambas way to do this rather than using lsblk so it's
not even needed?

2. Is this a good idea that maybe you could suggest other shell commands
you might want added to a component like this?

3. Is this a terrible idea and i should be looking into external library
functions or a gambas thing
that already exists to get disk info?

If it is better to use an external lib then if someone can point me in the
right direction on using something like liblsblk or some other way to get
disk info i'm up for making a better class.

Cheers anyone
BruceS
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 08:12:26 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 08:12:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Disk devices info and management
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL7DBXBMFaJ1avE=v9QspK00SJv88ETZFB-JG+331z8_ag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFkCsL7DBXBMFaJ1avE=v9QspK00SJv88ETZFB-JG+331z8_ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL7hQzX5HV22eYhmsS50keUNzvXk+D=-r9qS_Xng0CV39Q@mail.gmail.com>

I've found this script to imitate lsblk on bsd.

https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/lsblk-8-command-for-freebsd.56008/
<https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/lsblk-8-command-for-freebsd.56008/>

I've already done a similar work on a udev dbus way. But not finished.

Maybe the both can be fusionnate ?

The goal will be to have a more advanced internal open dialog.

Your component have to manage device info but also devices events are
reallly important.
The structure of returned infos must be in the most Gambas way. (Mine  is
not good too)

Regards,
Fabien
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Tue Dec 29 13:49:13 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 13:49:13 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Warnings report
Message-ID: <c83e95fb-9dac-135a-eea7-6281277d16bd@belmotek.net>

Hi,

I am trying to create an executable .gambas and because my project has 
many warnings I cannot do it.
To organize the debugging between several developers I would like to be 
able to distribute the tasks and for this, since it is a lot of 
warnings, I would like to have a file in which all these are listed.
It's possible?
thanks

MB.


From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 15:05:31 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 15:05:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] (no subject)
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 <a41ccee7-652f-f648-77e1-322d4662cd6a@gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCA9Ja-PRMgRPo+kwi11JHTJEYi2-em1cuFQ4m7vE2cZWQ@mail.gmail.com>
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This is my first try... last year
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 15:46:21 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 14:46:21 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Disk devices info and management
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL7hQzX5HV22eYhmsS50keUNzvXk+D=-r9qS_Xng0CV39Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFkCsL7DBXBMFaJ1avE=v9QspK00SJv88ETZFB-JG+331z8_ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL7hQzX5HV22eYhmsS50keUNzvXk+D=-r9qS_Xng0CV39Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCcsu_sy-2eEkQOfyahiph0wa56KDU1Gbbb2K_GQLR=fQ@mail.gmail.com>

lsblk is available on BSD, "pkg install lsblk" but it's output is very
different to linux lsblk.
My next step after seeing that was to add to the shell-tools component an
InstallPkg(sName) function that would handle the various installers.

Most ways i'm seeing on BSD to get disk info need sudo unlike lsblk which
is a shame.

I've not had much fun installing BSD, i tried to install freeBSD and
OpenBSD with no success (could not select a partition to install it too)
Then i managed to install GhostBSD on free space on an extended partition
that had 6 other linux partitions on it and all it's done is wiped the
whole extended partition for me :(
why oh why can't it just use grub and ext4 ? :'(

So now i've downloaded a VM image and doing it that way, just installing at
mo.

Have not thought in any way (yet) about disk events. My initial goal was to
simply get the disk drive list  as one of my apps wants the info.
that's when i though maybe a component that is unashamedly based on using
various shell commands might be useful and frankly simpler for a few things.

I have never looked into dbus, ,,,, (looking now) , ooh, that's a nice
useful looking component,  udev looks interesting does it work on BSD too?
It also looks far more in depth than what I have in mind for this
shell.tools component.
But to be fair the component has been born only from needing disk info so
maybe your way is better, would be happy to help get it finished and ready.

I think the shell.tools component could still go somewhere though.
I'm thinking of commands like ExecToPairs() that would automatically turn
shell command results that can return keypairs into a collection array.
that would work with what i've done with lsblk ..
cCollection = ExecToPairs("lsblk", "-P")

also an installer. Say , InstallPkg(sPkgName) that would detect installer
per os.

Stuff like that.
Disk detecting features within gambas would be great though.
I think with what i have so far i can make it BSD compatible i just might
have to drop a couple of fields but your way sounds less "hack" like ;) lol.

Wishing well.
BruceS


On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 07:13, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've found this script to imitate lsblk on bsd.
>
> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/lsblk-8-command-for-freebsd.56008/
> <https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/lsblk-8-command-for-freebsd.56008/>
>
> I've already done a similar work on a udev dbus way. But not finished.
>
> Maybe the both can be fusionnate ?
>
> The goal will be to have a more advanced internal open dialog.
>
> Your component have to manage device info but also devices events are
> reallly important.
> The structure of returned infos must be in the most Gambas way. (Mine  is
> not good too)
>
> Regards,
> Fabien
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 17:07:07 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:07:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Disk devices info and management
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCCcsu_sy-2eEkQOfyahiph0wa56KDU1Gbbb2K_GQLR=fQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFkCsL7DBXBMFaJ1avE=v9QspK00SJv88ETZFB-JG+331z8_ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL7hQzX5HV22eYhmsS50keUNzvXk+D=-r9qS_Xng0CV39Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCCcsu_sy-2eEkQOfyahiph0wa56KDU1Gbbb2K_GQLR=fQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL4yg-D5PvzAH8ZNg0gK41zVwAxisv7AU_K09Y_=6aRG=Q@mail.gmail.com>

My goal was to improve the gambas dialogs.. because fining my usb key
content is a job.

But my component need to be finished and having a non dbus part in case of
terminal using.
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 17:09:24 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:09:24 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL5RR4YYMngY4KBS8wWZwqiMehT7+=HCg-w_+FoR6S-m-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCCYJ74OKQHBG5A-7WL8c_fO+WOjdjkP9cCXuCGUmmuXeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a41ccee7-652f-f648-77e1-322d4662cd6a@gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCA9Ja-PRMgRPo+kwi11JHTJEYi2-em1cuFQ4m7vE2cZWQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCCCP21wQ8ydoWzvRELgo4Wdv1Pq_3QHNsAvnd+ufuwEpA@mail.gmail.com>

That's little short of fantastic Fab !

you even got got Mount() / Unmount() , brilliant, gambas needs this for
sure :)
I think my shell.tools should veer away from disk info and this component
needs polishing off to completion.
Doesn't look like it's far off being as complete as needs to be.


On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 14:06, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> This is my first try... last year
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 18:06:12 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:06:12 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Disk devices info and management
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL4yg-D5PvzAH8ZNg0gK41zVwAxisv7AU_K09Y_=6aRG=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFkCsL7DBXBMFaJ1avE=v9QspK00SJv88ETZFB-JG+331z8_ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL7hQzX5HV22eYhmsS50keUNzvXk+D=-r9qS_Xng0CV39Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABuQYCBivQq=wPUzUzkf_dDwqnCxVE-sUxp5FSvUMBJvczz-eg@mail.gmail.com>

oh noo, not in terminal !! :(  (shakes fist in the air)

Well i guess the terminal side could use shell lsblk and mount, BSD will be
a different case, i have it running now on a VM so will see what output
conversion i can manage.
your component gets an awful lot more info compared to mine.

My initial thoughts were to look into liblsblk and libmount somehow
integrate that way but i'm on a bit of a learning curve when it comes to C.


On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 16:08, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote:

> My goal was to improve the gambas dialogs.. because fining my usb key
> content is a job.
>
> But my component need to be finished and having a non dbus part in case of
> terminal using.
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 19:19:20 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:19:20 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone compiling on BSD got an up to date dependency list?

i've used the one on the wiki but it's outdated, fixed some things with
updates and some stuff is missing completely.

Will involve some compiling , getting dependency errors, and package
searching.

was wondering if someone already has the list to save the bother?

if not will figure it out and post updated list to wiki.

BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 20:03:36 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:03:36 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Warnings report
In-Reply-To: <c83e95fb-9dac-135a-eea7-6281277d16bd@belmotek.net>
References: <c83e95fb-9dac-135a-eea7-6281277d16bd@belmotek.net>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBrzcsabMobibOPqXb7rjEF=8XZvR6Ku1iRA5PVcZE34g@mail.gmail.com>

Options....

Right click Console view in gambas IDE and select "Select All" then copy
the text to a file

Or...
run .gambas app in terminal using redirects > .
Eg..
gbr3 /$HOME/MyApp/MyApp.gambas >/$HOME/MyApp_Output.txt 2>&1

*>/path* redirects std_out not std_err to file
*2>path* redirects std_err not std_out to file
*>/path_out 2>/path_err* redirects out and err to 2 files
*>/path 2>&1* directs out and err to same file

Hope that helps.
BruceS


On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 12:50, Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to create an executable .gambas and because my project has
> many warnings I cannot do it.
> To organize the debugging between several developers I would like to be
> able to distribute the tasks and for this, since it is a lot of
> warnings, I would like to have a file in which all these are listed.
> It's possible?
> thanks
>
> MB.
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From mbelmonte at belmotek.net  Wed Dec 30 01:23:17 2020
From: mbelmonte at belmotek.net (Martin)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 01:23:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Warnings report
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBrzcsabMobibOPqXb7rjEF=8XZvR6Ku1iRA5PVcZE34g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c83e95fb-9dac-135a-eea7-6281277d16bd@belmotek.net>
 <CABuQYCBrzcsabMobibOPqXb7rjEF=8XZvR6Ku1iRA5PVcZE34g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2c34664a-562e-7526-379e-2e10f7be7a76@belmotek.net>

Thanks for replying, but I mean the warning list not the console.
In the list of warnings, apparently it is not possible to make text copies.

Tanks

Martin

On 29/12/20 20:03, Bruce Steers wrote:
> Options....
>
> Right click Console view in gambas IDE and select "Select All" then 
> copy the text to a file
>
> Or...
> run .gambas app in terminal using redirects > .
> Eg..
> gbr3 /$HOME/MyApp/MyApp.gambas >/$HOME/MyApp_Output.txt 2>&1
>
> *>/path* redirects std_out not std_err to file
> *2>path* redirects std_err not std_out to file
> *>/path_out 2>/path_err* redirects out and err to 2 files
> *>/path 2>&1* directs out and err to same file
>
> Hope that helps.
> BruceS
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 12:50, Martin <mbelmonte at belmotek.net 
> <mailto:mbelmonte at belmotek.net>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I am trying to create an executable .gambas and because my project
>     has
>     many warnings I cannot do it.
>     To organize the debugging between several developers I would like
>     to be
>     able to distribute the tasks and for this, since it is a lot of
>     warnings, I would like to have a file in which all these are listed.
>     It's possible?
>     thanks
>
>     MB.
>
>
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 13:00:21 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:00:21 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDhjkN0Wz09vn5V-RMDXj_1PpGEZ=Ud_VPeYXHauPOStg@mail.gmail.com>

So here's the working list ...

sudo pkg install autoconf automake alure libtool libffi bzip2 unixODBC
mysql57-client sqlite3 libXtst cairo ncurses gsl openssl imlib imlib2
curl pcre poppler gmime26 gtk3 qt5 sdl sdl2 sdl_ttf sdl_mixer
sdl_image sdl2_ttf sdl2_mixer sdl2_image glib libGLU gmime26 glew
gtkglext libv4l v4l_compat libxml2 libxslt pkgconf

It will not compile though.

./reconf-all and ./configure now running without error

but 'make' command fails saying
*trunk_version.h* not found.

BruceS




On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 18:19, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Anyone compiling on BSD got an up to date dependency list?
>
> i've used the one on the wiki but it's outdated, fixed some things with
> updates and some stuff is missing completely.
>
> Will involve some compiling , getting dependency errors, and package
> searching.
>
> was wondering if someone already has the list to save the bother?
>
> if not will figure it out and post updated list to wiki.
>
> BruceS
>
>
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From taboege at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 13:16:16 2020
From: taboege at gmail.com (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 13:16:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDhjkN0Wz09vn5V-RMDXj_1PpGEZ=Ud_VPeYXHauPOStg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDhjkN0Wz09vn5V-RMDXj_1PpGEZ=Ud_VPeYXHauPOStg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20201230121616.GC1282@highrise.localdomain>

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
> So here's the working list ...
> 
> sudo pkg install autoconf automake alure libtool libffi bzip2 unixODBC
> mysql57-client sqlite3 libXtst cairo ncurses gsl openssl imlib imlib2
> curl pcre poppler gmime26 gtk3 qt5 sdl sdl2 sdl_ttf sdl_mixer
> sdl_image sdl2_ttf sdl2_mixer sdl2_image glib libGLU gmime26 glew
> gtkglext libv4l v4l_compat libxml2 libxslt pkgconf
> 
> It will not compile though.
> 
> ./reconf-all and ./configure now running without error
> 
> but 'make' command fails saying
> *trunk_version.h* not found.
> 

Try to enter the main/ subdirectory and show the output of

  $ make trunk_version.h

Regards,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 14:01:37 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 13:01:37 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDhjkN0Wz09vn5V-RMDXj_1PpGEZ=Ud_VPeYXHauPOStg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDhjkN0Wz09vn5V-RMDXj_1PpGEZ=Ud_VPeYXHauPOStg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBuGgYo_Y4tLKkoZ9uZYWSg+dym_gbAE2+ibuJhZkyLsQ@mail.gmail.com>

so i manually copied the *trunk_version.h* from another folder to main/ and
then the compiler got through that part.

Now it's failed saying sys/sysmacros.h not found.

So far i'm seeing this when it comes to gambas working on BSD...

No Gambas3 on BSD repositories.
Dependency list on wiki well out of date.
Compiling seems broken in more than one way.

So Ben, when you say code has to also work on BSD, are you sure ANYONE with
BSD is even using gambas?
because installing it is not exactly a walk in the park.

*BruceS*


On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 12:00, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> So here's the working list ...
>
> sudo pkg install autoconf automake alure libtool libffi bzip2 unixODBC mysql57-client sqlite3 libXtst cairo ncurses gsl openssl imlib imlib2 curl pcre poppler gmime26 gtk3 qt5 sdl sdl2 sdl_ttf sdl_mixer sdl_image sdl2_ttf sdl2_mixer sdl2_image glib libGLU gmime26 glew gtkglext libv4l v4l_compat libxml2 libxslt pkgconf
>
> It will not compile though.
>
> ./reconf-all and ./configure now running without error
>
> but 'make' command fails saying
> *trunk_version.h* not found.
>
> BruceS
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 18:19, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Anyone compiling on BSD got an up to date dependency list?
>>
>> i've used the one on the wiki but it's outdated, fixed some things with
>> updates and some stuff is missing completely.
>>
>> Will involve some compiling , getting dependency errors, and package
>> searching.
>>
>> was wondering if someone already has the list to save the bother?
>>
>> if not will figure it out and post updated list to wiki.
>>
>> BruceS
>>
>>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 14:52:32 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 13:52:32 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <20201230121616.GC1282@highrise.localdomain>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDhjkN0Wz09vn5V-RMDXj_1PpGEZ=Ud_VPeYXHauPOStg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20201230121616.GC1282@highrise.localdomain>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCBewbvj1_DxYnspsbJORsn=iZuwPVrGj=Kj8=t8Ombdyg@mail.gmail.com>

no output and still no file. :(

I've also now installed coreutils and gcc that were not in the dependency
list.
Still no joy.

Trying to do all steps as root now to see if any difference


On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 12:18, Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > So here's the working list ...
> >
> > sudo pkg install autoconf automake alure libtool libffi bzip2 unixODBC
> > mysql57-client sqlite3 libXtst cairo ncurses gsl openssl imlib imlib2
> > curl pcre poppler gmime26 gtk3 qt5 sdl sdl2 sdl_ttf sdl_mixer
> > sdl_image sdl2_ttf sdl2_mixer sdl2_image glib libGLU gmime26 glew
> > gtkglext libv4l v4l_compat libxml2 libxslt pkgconf
> >
> > It will not compile though.
> >
> > ./reconf-all and ./configure now running without error
> >
> > but 'make' command fails saying
> > *trunk_version.h* not found.
> >
>
> Try to enter the main/ subdirectory and show the output of
>
>   $ make trunk_version.h
>
> Regards,
> Tobias
>
> --
> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From admin at allunix.ru  Wed Dec 30 15:04:10 2020
From: admin at allunix.ru (Admin)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 21:04:10 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBewbvj1_DxYnspsbJORsn=iZuwPVrGj=Kj8=t8Ombdyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDhjkN0Wz09vn5V-RMDXj_1PpGEZ=Ud_VPeYXHauPOStg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20201230121616.GC1282@highrise.localdomain>
 <CABuQYCBewbvj1_DxYnspsbJORsn=iZuwPVrGj=Kj8=t8Ombdyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e6824b41-3a7e-c276-ff13-fdec5c9dea6a@allunix.ru>

Just to remind, as I've already posted not so long time ago, I got 
Gambas 3.12 interpreter compiled on a clean FreeBSD 12.0 and 12.1. You 
could install it using this script: http://allunix.ru/back/gbinst.sh

Dmitry.

30.12.2020 20:52, Bruce Steers ?????:
> no output and still no file. :(
>
> I've also now installed coreutils and gcc that were not in the 
> dependency list.
> Still no joy.
>
> Trying to do all steps as root now to see if any difference
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 12:18, Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com 
> <mailto:taboege at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On Wed, 30 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
>     > So here's the working list ...
>     >
>     > sudo pkg install autoconf automake alure libtool libffi bzip2
>     unixODBC
>     > mysql57-client sqlite3 libXtst cairo ncurses gsl openssl imlib
>     imlib2
>     > curl pcre poppler gmime26 gtk3 qt5 sdl sdl2 sdl_ttf sdl_mixer
>     > sdl_image sdl2_ttf sdl2_mixer sdl2_image glib libGLU gmime26 glew
>     > gtkglext libv4l v4l_compat libxml2 libxslt pkgconf
>     >
>     > It will not compile though.
>     >
>     > ./reconf-all and ./configure now running without error
>     >
>     > but 'make' command fails saying
>     > *trunk_version.h* not found.
>     >
>
>     Try to enter the main/ subdirectory and show the output of
>
>     ? $ make trunk_version.h
>
>     Regards,
>     Tobias
>
>     -- 
>     "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>     <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----


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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 16:12:09 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:12:09 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <e6824b41-3a7e-c276-ff13-fdec5c9dea6a@allunix.ru>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDhjkN0Wz09vn5V-RMDXj_1PpGEZ=Ud_VPeYXHauPOStg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20201230121616.GC1282@highrise.localdomain>
 <CABuQYCBewbvj1_DxYnspsbJORsn=iZuwPVrGj=Kj8=t8Ombdyg@mail.gmail.com>
 <e6824b41-3a7e-c276-ff13-fdec5c9dea6a@allunix.ru>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCDmG3Zzf7x45saj+k0-6GQXQAvp7u2pg3RTwcNJ-+E4hA@mail.gmail.com>

aah thank you but i'm looking to compile the whole thing.

According to ./configure I now have all dependencies and the only thing
disabled is qt4.

There is something wrong before make.
trunk_version.h not found and sys/sysmacros.h not found
most likely some package/s i am missing to make it work.
Or some wierd configuration bsd does differently.
i looked at your script and noticed you installed mc, so i installed it too
and got a message about needing to assign procfs to /proc to make things
work.
I already do not like BSD . it's too , not-normal  (and rubbish compared to
deb/ubuntu)

Thanks for tip though
BruceS


On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 14:33, Admin <admin at allunix.ru> wrote:

> Just to remind, as I've already posted not so long time ago, I got Gambas
> 3.12 interpreter compiled on a clean FreeBSD 12.0 and 12.1. You could
> install it using this script: http://allunix.ru/back/gbinst.sh
>
> Dmitry.
>
> 30.12.2020 20:52, Bruce Steers ?????:
>
> no output and still no file. :(
>
> I've also now installed coreutils and gcc that were not in the dependency
> list.
> Still no joy.
>
> Trying to do all steps as root now to see if any difference
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 12:18, Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
>> > So here's the working list ...
>> >
>> > sudo pkg install autoconf automake alure libtool libffi bzip2 unixODBC
>> > mysql57-client sqlite3 libXtst cairo ncurses gsl openssl imlib imlib2
>> > curl pcre poppler gmime26 gtk3 qt5 sdl sdl2 sdl_ttf sdl_mixer
>> > sdl_image sdl2_ttf sdl2_mixer sdl2_image glib libGLU gmime26 glew
>> > gtkglext libv4l v4l_compat libxml2 libxslt pkgconf
>> >
>> > It will not compile though.
>> >
>> > ./reconf-all and ./configure now running without error
>> >
>> > but 'make' command fails saying
>> > *trunk_version.h* not found.
>> >
>>
>> Try to enter the main/ subdirectory and show the output of
>>
>>   $ make trunk_version.h
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tobias
>>
>> --
>> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From tmorehen at ajm-software.com  Wed Dec 30 16:44:59 2020
From: tmorehen at ajm-software.com (Tony Morehen)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:44:59 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCBuGgYo_Y4tLKkoZ9uZYWSg+dym_gbAE2+ibuJhZkyLsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDhjkN0Wz09vn5V-RMDXj_1PpGEZ=Ud_VPeYXHauPOStg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCBuGgYo_Y4tLKkoZ9uZYWSg+dym_gbAE2+ibuJhZkyLsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f4a47cd-b24c-c48e-3857-2c284f08717a@ajm-software.com>

sys/sysmacros.h is a glibc non-standard header file.? BSD does not use 
glibc so the file will not be found on BSD.? For a fix, see:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Glibc_2.26_porting_notes/sysmacros.h

On 2020-12-30 8:01 a.m., Bruce Steers wrote:
> so i manually copied the |*trunk_version.h* from another folder to 
> main/ and then the compiler got through that part.|
>
> Now it's failed saying sys/sysmacros.h not found.
>
> So far i'm seeing this when it comes to gambas working on BSD...
>
> |No Gambas3 on BSD repositories.|
> |Dependency list on wiki well out of date.|
> ||
> |Compiling seems broken in more than one way.*
> *|
>
> So Ben, when you say code has to also work on BSD, are you sure ANYONE 
> with BSD is even using gambas?
> because installing it is not exactly a walk in the park.
> ||
> |*BruceS*|
> ||
>
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 12:00, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     So here's the working list ...
>
>     |sudo pkg install autoconf automake alure libtool libffi bzip2
>     unixODBC mysql57-client sqlite3 libXtst cairo ncurses gsl openssl
>     imlib imlib2 curl pcre poppler gmime26 gtk3 qt5 sdl sdl2 sdl_ttf
>     sdl_mixer sdl_image sdl2_ttf sdl2_mixer sdl2_image glib libGLU
>     gmime26 glew gtkglext libv4l v4l_compat libxml2 libxslt pkgconf |
>
>     |It will not compile though. ./reconf-all and ./configure now
>     running without error but 'make' command fails saying
>     *trunk_version.h* not found. BruceS |
>
>     ||
>
>
>     On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 18:19, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>         Anyone compiling on BSD got an up to date dependency list?
>
>         i've used the one on the wiki but it's outdated, fixed some
>         things with updates and some stuff is missing completely.
>
>         Will involve some compiling , getting dependency errors, and
>         package searching.
>
>         was wondering if someone already has the list to save the bother?
>
>         if not will figure it out and post updated list to wiki.
>
>         BruceS
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 16:57:08 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:57:08 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
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Le 30/12/2020 ? 14:01, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> so i manually copied the |*trunk_version.h* from another folder to main/ 
> and then the compiler got through that part.|
> 
> Now it's failed saying sys/sysmacros.h not found.
> 
> So far i'm seeing this when it comes to gambas working on BSD...
> 
> |No Gambas3 on BSD repositories.|
> |Dependency list on wiki well out of date.|
> ||
> |Compiling seems broken in more than one way.*
> *|
> 
> So Ben, when you say code has to also work on BSD, are you sure ANYONE 
> with BSD is even using gambas?
> because installing it is not exactly a walk in the park.
> ||
> |*BruceS*|
> |**|
> 

Mac OSX is a BSD, and I know some people told that they succeeded 
compiling Gambas on it.

But when I told you about BSD, my words were not to be taken literally.

I wanted to point that you are using a specific Linux command, and that 
it's not a good idea to base a component on it.

Moreover, I don't know exactly what you want to do with that component, 
but if you have the same goal than Fabien, and/or if you aim at browsing 
the disk units to show them to the user and allow him to mount/unmount 
them, then you must look at DBus instead.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 17:37:01 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 17:37:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stock
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL54S9Bm730+o4iE009hZqK0TLN+2WSKsRNAnk7eMtY97A@mail.gmail.com>

Is someone remember how to reach a specific icon in the linux stock ?


for example
hPic = Picture["icon:/devices/media-floppy"]

If not I need to re read the code :-/

-- 
Fabien Bodard

From clhamilto at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 17:55:36 2020
From: clhamilto at gmail.com (Curtis Hamilton)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:55:36 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
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I would like to confirm that I?ve been able to compile full gambas on
FreeBSD 12 and Current on PowerPC64, using the stock gambas downloads from
sourceforge.  This includes all versions since 13.12.
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 18:05:28 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 17:05:28 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stock
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I use Stock class

hPic = Stock["icon:32/media-floppy"]

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 16:38, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is someone remember how to reach a specific icon in the linux stock ?
>
>
> for example
> hPic = Picture["icon:/devices/media-floppy"]
>
> If not I need to re read the code :-/
>
> --
> Fabien Bodard
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 18:20:55 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 17:20:55 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
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this may have done the trick.. :)  (touch wood)

As per the instructions I've simply commented out line 35 of gbx_c_file.c
// #include <sys/sysmacros.h>
(Will this break things Ben?)

make has been running for ages (it's very slow on the VM)

Thanks Tony :)
BruceS


On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 15:46, Tony Morehen <tmorehen at ajm-software.com>
wrote:

> sys/sysmacros.h is a glibc non-standard header file.  BSD does not use
> glibc so the file will not be found on BSD.  For a fix, see:
>
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Glibc_2.26_porting_notes/sysmacros.h
> On 2020-12-30 8:01 a.m., Bruce Steers wrote:
>
> so i manually copied the *trunk_version.h* from another folder to main/
> and then the compiler got through that part.
>
> Now it's failed saying sys/sysmacros.h not found.
>
> So far i'm seeing this when it comes to gambas working on BSD...
>
> No Gambas3 on BSD repositories.
> Dependency list on wiki well out of date.
> Compiling seems broken in more than one way.
>
> So Ben, when you say code has to also work on BSD, are you sure ANYONE
> with BSD is even using gambas?
> because installing it is not exactly a walk in the park.
>
> *BruceS*
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 12:00, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So here's the working list ...
>>
>> sudo pkg install autoconf automake alure libtool libffi bzip2 unixODBC mysql57-client sqlite3 libXtst cairo ncurses gsl openssl imlib imlib2 curl pcre poppler gmime26 gtk3 qt5 sdl sdl2 sdl_ttf sdl_mixer sdl_image sdl2_ttf sdl2_mixer sdl2_image glib libGLU gmime26 glew gtkglext libv4l v4l_compat libxml2 libxslt pkgconf
>>
>> It will not compile though../reconf-all and ./configure now running without error
>> but 'make' command fails saying *
>> trunk_version.h* not found.
>> BruceS
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 18:19, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Anyone compiling on BSD got an up to date dependency list?
>>>
>>> i've used the one on the wiki but it's outdated, fixed some things with
>>> updates and some stuff is missing completely.
>>>
>>> Will involve some compiling , getting dependency errors, and package
>>> searching.
>>>
>>> was wondering if someone already has the list to save the bother?
>>>
>>> if not will figure it out and post updated list to wiki.
>>>
>>> BruceS
>>>
>>>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 18:22:04 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:22:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stock
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Well :-D

I want to use a real icon based in the icons system location and
taking theme into account :-).

But I don't remember If i've donne something about this case in the
past ... so far :-/

Le mer. 30 d?c. 2020 ? 18:06, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>
> I use Stock class
>
> hPic = Stock["icon:32/media-floppy"]
>
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 16:38, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is someone remember how to reach a specific icon in the linux stock ?
>>
>>
>> for example
>> hPic = Picture["icon:/devices/media-floppy"]
>>
>> If not I need to re read the code :-/
>>
>> --
>> Fabien Bodard
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----



-- 
Fabien Bodard

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 18:34:53 2020
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:34:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stock
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Hi Fabien,

I don't think you mean something like:

  Dim s As String
  For Each s As String In Stock.Icons
    Print s
  Next
?
Regards
Gianluigi

Il giorno mer 30 dic 2020 alle ore 18:25 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Well :-D
>
> I want to use a real icon based in the icons system location and
> taking theme into account :-).
>
> But I don't remember If i've donne something about this case in the
> past ... so far :-/
>
> Le mer. 30 d?c. 2020 ? 18:06, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
> >
> > I use Stock class
> >
> > hPic = Stock["icon:32/media-floppy"]
> >
> > On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 16:38, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is someone remember how to reach a specific icon in the linux stock ?
> >>
> >>
> >> for example
> >> hPic = Picture["icon:/devices/media-floppy"]
> >>
> >> If not I need to re read the code :-/
> >>
> >> --
> >> Fabien Bodard
> >>
> >> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> >
> >
> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
>
> --
> Fabien Bodard
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 18:46:46 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:16:46 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stock
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On 31/12/20 3:52 am, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> Well :-D
> 
> I want to use a real icon based in the icons system location and
> taking theme into account :-).
> 
> But I don't remember If i've donne something about this case in the
> past ... so far :-/
> 
> Le mer. 30 d?c. 2020 ? 18:06, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>>
>> I use Stock class
>>
>> hPic = Stock["icon:32/media-floppy"]
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 16:38, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is someone remember how to reach a specific icon in the linux stock ?
>>>
>>>
>>> for example
>>> hPic = Picture["icon:/devices/media-floppy"]
>>>
>>> If not I need to re read the code :-/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Fabien Bodard
>>>
>>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> 
> 

No.
The Stock component only knows how to get the icons defined in the 
"Gambas icons list" which are defined in a map file inside the component.
You would have to
1) Get the Application.Theme
2) Locate the theme directory in /usr/?/?/icons (depends on distro)
3) Decipher how the theme developers have structured that directory
4) Find your icon.

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/latest/index.html
ha the definitive standard, but few theme developers adhere to it.

b

From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 18:49:10 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:49:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stock
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It's difficult to me to be understanding

In fact the normal use of stock is :

Picture["icon:/size/name"]... it take the icon name in the stock map
file and then use the accurate one or the internal one if
gb.form.stock is loaded.

Another tricks is to use some magics

for example to get a mime icon :
Stock[CStr(Size) &/ "$(mime)" &/ sMime]

the $mime enforce the use of the mimetype folder is the icons storage
for your linux system.

But icons name also follow a kind of standart in naming ... for
example 'drive-harddisk' or 'drive-removable-media'


Le mer. 30 d?c. 2020 ? 18:36, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>
> Hi Fabien,
>
> I don't think you mean something like:
>
>   Dim s As String
>   For Each s As String In Stock.Icons
>     Print s
>   Next
> ?
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> Il giorno mer 30 dic 2020 alle ore 18:25 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>
>> Well :-D
>>
>> I want to use a real icon based in the icons system location and
>> taking theme into account :-).
>>
>> But I don't remember If i've donne something about this case in the
>> past ... so far :-/
>>
>> Le mer. 30 d?c. 2020 ? 18:06, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>> >
>> > I use Stock class
>> >
>> > hPic = Stock["icon:32/media-floppy"]
>> >
>> > On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 16:38, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Is someone remember how to reach a specific icon in the linux stock ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> for example
>> >> hPic = Picture["icon:/devices/media-floppy"]
>> >>
>> >> If not I need to re read the code :-/
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Fabien Bodard
>> >>
>> >> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>> >
>> >
>> > ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fabien Bodard
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----



-- 
Fabien Bodard

From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 18:54:00 2020
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:54:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stock
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> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/latest/index.html
> ha the definitive standard, but few theme developers adhere to it.


Well I really know this point :-D.. I've worked hard on the first
version of themes resolver for the stock class ;-)

In fact I'm just a lazy guy who not remember his own code :-P (And
Benoit have mainly doing many things on it... so it is less buggy and
more fast)

Well so I have two way ... adding it to the map file
or
modify the stock class to allow more freedom.


>
> b
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----



-- 
Fabien Bodard

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 20:10:04 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 19:10:04 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
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aah , now you tell me lol.
okay point noted.

On the plus side though i have BSD compiling up to date :)
(well GhostBSD at least)

I've encountered 3 issues with 3 fixes applied after getting the
dependencies right...

1. trunk_version.h does not get created in ./main/
fix: copy the trunk_version.h file from another source folder

2. sys/sysmacros.h not found for gbx_c_file.c
fix: commented out the define line on line 35.
(is there a way sysmacros.h can be ditched? maybe import the code?)

3. BSD rmdir command does not like the --ignore-non-empty flag in the
makefiles  (it does not use ANY -- prefixes)
Fix: remove flag

So after those 3 steps i now have this...
http://bws.org.uk/images/Gambas3.15.90.GhostBSD.png

Phew.
BruceS

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 15:58, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 30/12/2020 ? 14:01, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > so i manually copied the |*trunk_version.h* from another folder to main/
> > and then the compiler got through that part.|
> >
> > Now it's failed saying sys/sysmacros.h not found.
> >
> > So far i'm seeing this when it comes to gambas working on BSD...
> >
> > |No Gambas3 on BSD repositories.|
> > |Dependency list on wiki well out of date.|
> > ||
> > |Compiling seems broken in more than one way.*
> > *|
> >
> > So Ben, when you say code has to also work on BSD, are you sure ANYONE
> > with BSD is even using gambas?
> > because installing it is not exactly a walk in the park.
> > ||
> > |*BruceS*|
> > |**|
> >
>
> Mac OSX is a BSD, and I know some people told that they succeeded
> compiling Gambas on it.
>
> But when I told you about BSD, my words were not to be taken literally.
>
> I wanted to point that you are using a specific Linux command, and that
> it's not a good idea to base a component on it.
>
> Moreover, I don't know exactly what you want to do with that component,
> but if you have the same goal than Fabien, and/or if you aim at browsing
> the disk units to show them to the user and allow him to mount/unmount
> them, then you must look at DBus instead.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 20:19:04 +0100
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Le 30/12/2020 ? 20:10, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
> aah , now you tell me lol.
> okay point noted.
> 
> On the plus side though i have BSD compiling up to date :)
> (well GhostBSD at least)
> 
> I've encountered 3 issues with 3 fixes applied after getting the 
> dependencies right...
> 
> 1. trunk_version.h does not get created in ./main/
> fix: copy the trunk_version.h file from another source folder

No idea why.

> 
> 2. sys/sysmacros.h not found for gbx_c_file.c
> fix: commented out the define line on line 35.
> (is there a way sysmacros.h can be ditched? maybe import the code?)

You can use an "#ifdef OS_BSD" to not include the file on BSD.

> 
> 3. BSD rmdir command does not like the --ignore-non-empty flag in the 
> makefiles? (it does not use ANY -- prefixes)
> Fix: remove flag

Is there a flag that does the same thing as in Linux?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 20:20:58 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 19:20:58 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
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link was broken trying again...
if this one don't work be advised it's complete gambas3 fully working on
bsd.
http://bws.org.uk/images/Gambas3.15.GhostBSD.png


On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 19:10, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> aah , now you tell me lol.
> okay point noted.
>
> On the plus side though i have BSD compiling up to date :)
> (well GhostBSD at least)
>
> I've encountered 3 issues with 3 fixes applied after getting the
> dependencies right...
>
> 1. trunk_version.h does not get created in ./main/
> fix: copy the trunk_version.h file from another source folder
>
> 2. sys/sysmacros.h not found for gbx_c_file.c
> fix: commented out the define line on line 35.
> (is there a way sysmacros.h can be ditched? maybe import the code?)
>
> 3. BSD rmdir command does not like the --ignore-non-empty flag in the
> makefiles  (it does not use ANY -- prefixes)
> Fix: remove flag
>
> So after those 3 steps i now have this...
> http://bws.org.uk/images/Gambas3.15.90.GhostBSD.png
>
> Phew.
> BruceS
>
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 15:58, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Le 30/12/2020 ? 14:01, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
>> > so i manually copied the |*trunk_version.h* from another folder to
>> main/
>> > and then the compiler got through that part.|
>> >
>> > Now it's failed saying sys/sysmacros.h not found.
>> >
>> > So far i'm seeing this when it comes to gambas working on BSD...
>> >
>> > |No Gambas3 on BSD repositories.|
>> > |Dependency list on wiki well out of date.|
>> > ||
>> > |Compiling seems broken in more than one way.*
>> > *|
>> >
>> > So Ben, when you say code has to also work on BSD, are you sure ANYONE
>> > with BSD is even using gambas?
>> > because installing it is not exactly a walk in the park.
>> > ||
>> > |*BruceS*|
>> > |**|
>> >
>>
>> Mac OSX is a BSD, and I know some people told that they succeeded
>> compiling Gambas on it.
>>
>> But when I told you about BSD, my words were not to be taken literally.
>>
>> I wanted to point that you are using a specific Linux command, and that
>> it's not a good idea to base a component on it.
>>
>> Moreover, I don't know exactly what you want to do with that component,
>> but if you have the same goal than Fabien, and/or if you aim at browsing
>> the disk units to show them to the user and allow him to mount/unmount
>> them, then you must look at DBus instead.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>
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From admin at allunix.ru  Wed Dec 30 20:37:36 2020
From: admin at allunix.ru (Admin)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 02:37:36 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
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Nice work!

31.12.2020 2:20, Bruce Steers ?????:
> link was broken trying again...
> if this one don't work be advised it's complete gambas3 fully working 
> on bsd.
> http://bws.org.uk/images/Gambas3.15.GhostBSD.png 
> <http://bws.org.uk/images/Gambas3.15.GhostBSD.png>
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 19:10, Bruce Steers <bsteers4 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bsteers4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     aah , now you tell me lol.
>     okay point noted.
>
>     On the plus side though i have BSD compiling up to date :)
>     (well GhostBSD at least)
>
>     I've encountered 3 issues with 3 fixes applied after getting the
>     dependencies right...
>
>     1. trunk_version.h does not get created in ./main/
>     fix: copy the trunk_version.h file from another source folder
>
>     2. sys/sysmacros.h not found for gbx_c_file.c
>     fix: commented out the define line on line 35.
>     (is there a way sysmacros.h can be ditched? maybe import the code?)
>
>     3. BSD rmdir command does not like the --ignore-non-empty flag in
>     the makefiles? (it does not use ANY -- prefixes)
>     Fix: remove flag
>
>     So after those 3 steps i now have this...
>     http://bws.org.uk/images/Gambas3.15.90.GhostBSD.png
>     <http://bws.org.uk/images/Gambas3.15.90.GhostBSD.png>
>
>     Phew.
>     BruceS
>
>     On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 15:58, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Le 30/12/2020 ? 14:01, Bruce Steers a ?crit?:
>         > so i manually copied the |*trunk_version.h* from another
>         folder to main/
>         > and then the compiler got through that part.|
>         >
>         > Now it's failed saying sys/sysmacros.h not found.
>         >
>         > So far i'm seeing this when it comes to gambas working on BSD...
>         >
>         > |No Gambas3 on BSD repositories.|
>         > |Dependency list on wiki well out of date.|
>         > ||
>         > |Compiling seems broken in more than one way.*
>         > *|
>         >
>         > So Ben, when you say code has to also work on BSD, are you
>         sure ANYONE
>         > with BSD is even using gambas?
>         > because installing it is not exactly a walk in the park.
>         > ||
>         > |*BruceS*|
>         > |**|
>         >
>
>         Mac OSX is a BSD, and I know some people told that they succeeded
>         compiling Gambas on it.
>
>         But when I told you about BSD, my words were not to be taken
>         literally.
>
>         I wanted to point that you are using a specific Linux command,
>         and that
>         it's not a good idea to base a component on it.
>
>         Moreover, I don't know exactly what you want to do with that
>         component,
>         but if you have the same goal than Fabien, and/or if you aim
>         at browsing
>         the disk units to show them to the user and allow him to
>         mount/unmount
>         them, then you must look at DBus instead.
>
>         Regards,
>
>         -- 
>         Beno?t Minisini
>
>         ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
>         <http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette> ]----
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----


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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 20:38:57 2020
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 06:08:57 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stock
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On 31/12/20 4:24 am, Fabien Bodard wrote:
>> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/latest/index.html
>> ha the definitive standard, but few theme developers adhere to it.
> 
> 
> Well I really know this point :-D.. I've worked hard on the first
> version of themes resolver for the stock class ;-)
> 
> In fact I'm just a lazy guy who not remember his own code :-P (And
> Benoit have mainly doing many things on it... so it is less buggy and
> more fast)
> 
> Well so I have two way ... adding it to the map file
> or
> modify the stock class to allow more freedom.
> 
> 
>>
>> b
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 
> 
> 

Go the second way! :-) I tried but failed miserably. :-(
If you can get it to the point where it resolves those that do follow 
the standard then that is a big move forward.
b

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Wed Dec 30 20:31:59 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:31:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Disk devices info and management
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BruceS, 

The information you are looking for can be got from the 

/sys/block directory 
ls /sys/block will return a list of devices 

ls /sys/block/sda gets you 
alignment_offset capability device events events_poll_msecs hidden inflight mq queue removable sda1 size stat trace 
bdi dev discard_alignment events_async ext_range holders integrity power range ro sda2 slaves subsystem uevent 

Notice it lists the sda1 and sda2 partitions etc 

cat stat gets you 
2752110 675832 28981442 3612713 152716 5416705 79021648 4189622 0 3484324 7008448 115123 0 1122950384 7017 
this list is left to write 
The stat file consists of a single line of text containing 11 decimal
values separated by whitespace.  The fields are summarized in the
following table, and described in more detail below.

Name            units         description
----            -----         -----------
read I/Os       requests      number of read I/Os processed
read merges     requests      number of read I/Os merged with in-queue I/O
read sectors    sectors       number of sectors read
read ticks      milliseconds  total wait time for read requests
write I/Os      requests      number of write I/Os processed
write merges    requests      number of write I/Os merged with in-queue I/O
write sectors   sectors       number of sectors written
write ticks     milliseconds  total wait time for write requests
in_flight       requests      number of I/Os currently in flight
io_ticks        milliseconds  total time this block device has been active
time_in_queue   milliseconds  total wait time for all requests
discard I/Os    requests      number of discard I/Os processed
discard merges  requests      number of discard I/Os merged with in-queue I/O
discard sectors sectors       number of sectors discarded
discard ticks   milliseconds  total wait time for discard requests 
notice it lists all sorts of great information 

cat /sys/block/sda/ size 
1953525168 

ls /proc/mounts 
Gets you all the system mounts 

More info here [ https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/block/stat.txt | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/block/stat.txt ] 

Here is a script that gets data with just gambas I did a while ago, 
Dont know if it helps to do it in just gambas way 

#!/usr/bin/gbs3 
Public Sub Main() 
'Linux 
dim statmap As String[] = [ 
"&1 = Read I / Os requests number Of Read I / Os processed", 
"&1 = Read merges requests number Of Read I / Os merged With In -queue I / O", 
"&1 = Read sectors sectors number Of sectors Read", 
"&1 = Read ticks milliseconds total Wait Time For Read requests", 
"&1 = Write I / Os requests number Of Write I / Os processed", 
"&1 = Write merges requests number Of Write I / Os merged With In -queue I / O", 
"&1 = Write sectors sectors number Of sectors written", 
"&1 = Write ticks milliseconds total Wait Time For Write requests", 
"&1 = in_flight requests number Of I / Os currently In flight", 
"&1 = io_ticks milliseconds total Time this block device has been active", 
"&1 = time_in_queue milliseconds total Wait Time For all requests", 
"&1 = discard I / Os requests number Of discard I / Os processed", 
"&1 = discard merges requests number Of discard I / Os merged With In -queue I / O", 
"&1 = discard sectors sectors number Of sectors discarded", 
"&1 = discard ticks milliseconds total Wait Time For discard requests" 
] 

dim i as integer 
Dim disks As String[] = Dir("/sys/block","s*") ' you can filter by whatever you like 
Dim Partitions As String[] = Dir("/sys/block/sda", "sda*") ' again I only filter for sda etc 
Dim stats As String[] = Split(file.load("/sys/block/sda/stat"), " \n", "", True, True) 
Dim dSize As String = file.load("/sys/block/sda/size") 
Dim sda1Stats As String[] = Split(file.load("/sys/block/sda/sda1/stat"), " \n", "", True, True) 
Dim sda1dSize As String = file.load("/sys/block/sda/sda1/size") 
' get mount points 
Dim mounts As String[] = Split(file.load("/proc/mounts"), "\n", "", True, True) 
for i = 0 to mounts.max 'lets extract the most interesting fields 
mounts[i] = split(mounts[i]," \n","",true,true).extract(0,3).join("\t") 
next 
'mount info also retrun the filesystem type 
'/dev/disk/by-uuid lists all the devices as links to the physical device such as sda1 etc 
'these are all available by-id by-label by-partlabel by-partuuid by-path by-uuid 
Dim uuids As String[] = Dir("/dev/disk/by-uuid") ' each is a link to the device 
Dim labels As String[] = Dir("/dev/disk/by-label") ' each is a link to the device 

listing(disks, "Disks") 
listing(Partitions, "DiskPartitions") 
listing(stats, "Stats for sda", "*", statmap) 
Listing(sda1stats, "Stats for sda1", "*", statmap) 
Print "Sizeof sda :";; Dsize;; 
Print " sda1 :";; sda1dsize 
listing(mounts, "Mounted Devices", "/dev*") ' change /dev to UUID if your system uses that 

For i As Integer = 0 To labels.Max 
Dim st As Stat = Stat("/dev/disk/by-label" &/ labels[i]) 
labels[i] = labels[i] & "->" & File.Name(st.link) 
Next 
listing(labels, "Label of disks") 

Print "done" 

Quit 0 
Catch 
Print error.text & "\n" & error.where 
End 

Sub listing(source As String[], title As String, Optional filter As String = "*", map As String[] = []) 
Print title 
For i As Integer = 0 To source.max 
Dim s As String = source[i] 
If s Like filter Then 
If map.count > 0 Then 
Print Space(10); Subst(map[i], Left(s & Space(10), 10)) 
Else 
Print Space(10); s 
Endif 
Endif 
Next 
Print 
End 


Cheers 
Brian G 


From: "Bruce Steers" <bsteers4 at gmail.com> 
To: "Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:06:12 AM 
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Disk devices info and management 

oh noo, not in terminal !! :( (shakes fist in the air) 

Well i guess the terminal side could use shell lsblk and mount, BSD will be a different case, i have it running now on a VM so will see what output conversion i can manage. 
your component gets an awful lot more info compared to mine. 

My initial thoughts were to look into liblsblk and libmount somehow integrate that way but i'm on a bit of a learning curve when it comes to C. 


On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 16:08, Fabien Bodard < [ mailto:gambas.fr at gmail.com | gambas.fr at gmail.com ] > wrote: 



My goal was to improve the gambas dialogs.. because fining my usb key content is a job. 

But my component need to be finished and having a non dbus part in case of terminal using. 

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From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Wed Dec 30 23:16:10 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:16:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Daily builds
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Are Daily build still happening? 

Thank You 
Brian G 
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 01:28:36 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 01:28:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Daily builds
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Le 30/12/2020 ? 23:16, Brian G a ?crit?:
> Are Daily build still happening?
> 
> Thank You
> Brian G
> 

I'm trying to fix them...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 01:33:01 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 01:33:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] fill color WebProgressBar
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Le 23/12/2020 ? 22:08, Mayost Sharon a ?crit?:
> hello
> 
> How to change the fill color of the WebProgressBar
> 
> Thanks
> 

By using a custom style sheet.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From brian at westwoodsvcs.com  Thu Dec 31 01:52:46 2020
From: brian at westwoodsvcs.com (Brian G)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:52:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Daily builds
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Thanks Beno?t!

Thank You
Brian G

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beno?t Minisini" <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
To: "Gambas mailing list" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 4:28:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Daily builds

Le 30/12/2020 ? 23:16, Brian G a ?crit?:
> Are Daily build still happening?
> 
> Thank You
> Brian G
> 

I'm trying to fix them...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

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From ian.roper at iinet.net.au  Thu Dec 31 02:05:00 2020
From: ian.roper at iinet.net.au (Ian Roper)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:05:00 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web View help
Message-ID: <9190c6cd-ceb2-b361-4878-d229ac58ae0d@iinet.net.au>

Can't find the parameter to make a webview editable and went to the help 
and got this...

 ?comp ? gb.gui.webview ? webview File or directory does not exist at 
line #2:

@{symbols}

Stack backtrace:

CComponent._new.225
CComponent.Get.118
WikiMarkdown.Command.199
Markup.ConvertMarkup.164
Markup.Convert.36
Markdown.ToHTML.15
Wiki._PrintPage.344
Wiki.Wiki.0
WebPage.__Render.31
WebPage.Render.56
Main.Main.735
gb.gui.webview / webview /


Cheers,

IR


From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 02:20:21 2020
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 02:20:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web View help
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Le 31/12/2020 ? 02:05, Ian Roper a ?crit?:
> Can't find the parameter to make a webview editable and went to the help 
> and got this...
> 
>  ?comp ? gb.gui.webview ? webview File or directory does not exist at 
> line #2:
> 
> @{symbols}
> 
> Stack backtrace:
> 
> CComponent._new.225
> CComponent.Get.118
> WikiMarkdown.Command.199
> Markup.ConvertMarkup.164
> Markup.Convert.36
> Markdown.ToHTML.15
> Wiki._PrintPage.344
> Wiki.Wiki.0
> WebPage.__Render.31
> WebPage.Render.56
> Main.Main.735
> gb.gui.webview / webview /
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> IR
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----

WebView of 'gb.gui.webview' is not editable.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From ian.roper at iinet.net.au  Thu Dec 31 03:31:03 2020
From: ian.roper at iinet.net.au (Ian Roper)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:31:03 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web View help
In-Reply-To: <2132b9e7-7afc-6542-9698-25e0d984983f@gmail.com>
References: <9190c6cd-ceb2-b361-4878-d229ac58ae0d@iinet.net.au>
 <2132b9e7-7afc-6542-9698-25e0d984983f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <27f4e2ac-fc37-e48c-e896-0b24b2853dfe@iinet.net.au>

Changed over - not editable either.

any reference to WebView.Editable produces an error. {Unknown Symbol}


File or directory does not exist at line #2:

@{symbols}

Stack backtrace:

CComponent._new.225
CComponent.Get.118
WikiMarkdown.Command.199
Markup.ConvertMarkup.164
Markup.Convert.36
Markdown.ToHTML.15
Wiki._PrintPage.344
Wiki.Wiki.0
WebPage.__Render.31
WebPage.Render.56
Main.Main.735
*gb.qt5.webview / webview / *

 ???????? Components
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 ????????? Component=gb.image
*????????? Component=gb.qt5*
 ????????? Component=gb.form
 ????????? Component=gb.db
 ????????? Component=gb.desktop
 ????????? Component=gb.eval
 ????????? Component=gb.eval.highlight
 ????????? Component=gb.util
 ????????? Component=gb.form.editor
 ????????? Component=gb.settings
 ????????? Component=gb.media
 ????????? Component=gb.media.form
*????????? Component=gb.qt5.webview*
 ????????? Component=gb.sdl2.audio
 ????????? Component=gb.web
 ????????? Component=gb.xml

 ?? -End of Technical Document-


Cheers,

IR


On 31/12/20 9:20 am, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 31/12/2020 ? 02:05, Ian Roper a ?crit?:
>> Can't find the parameter to make a webview editable and went to the 
>> help and got this...
>>
>> ??comp ? gb.gui.webview ? webview File or directory does not exist at 
>> line #2:
>>
>> @{symbols}
>>
>> Stack backtrace:
>>
>> CComponent._new.225
>> CComponent.Get.118
>> WikiMarkdown.Command.199
>> Markup.ConvertMarkup.164
>> Markup.Convert.36
>> Markdown.ToHTML.15
>> Wiki._PrintPage.344
>> Wiki.Wiki.0
>> WebPage.__Render.31
>> WebPage.Render.56
>> Main.Main.735
>> gb.gui.webview / webview /
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> IR
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> WebView of 'gb.gui.webview' is not editable.
>
> Regards,
>
On 31/12/20 9:20 am, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 31/12/2020 ? 02:05, Ian Roper a ?crit?:
>> Can't find the parameter to make a webview editable and went to the 
>> help and got this...
>>
>> ??comp ? gb.gui.webview ? webview File or directory does not exist at 
>> line #2:
>>
>> @{symbols}
>>
>> Stack backtrace:
>>
>> CComponent._new.225
>> CComponent.Get.118
>> WikiMarkdown.Command.199
>> Markup.ConvertMarkup.164
>> Markup.Convert.36
>> Markdown.ToHTML.15
>> Wiki._PrintPage.344
>> Wiki.Wiki.0
>> WebPage.__Render.31
>> WebPage.Render.56
>> Main.Main.735
>> gb.gui.webview / webview /
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> IR
>>
>>
>> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
> WebView of 'gb.gui.webview' is not editable.
>
> Regards,
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 16:47:45 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 15:47:45 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web View help
In-Reply-To: <27f4e2ac-fc37-e48c-e896-0b24b2853dfe@iinet.net.au>
References: <9190c6cd-ceb2-b361-4878-d229ac58ae0d@iinet.net.au>
 <2132b9e7-7afc-6542-9698-25e0d984983f@gmail.com>
 <27f4e2ac-fc37-e48c-e896-0b24b2853dfe@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <CABuQYCCdgUHff=P=udiMvVD0=H6P5SeZJPs4i7-CPAt_QFngrA@mail.gmail.com>

I have an app that uses qt webview and uses the Editable setting.
It's working fine here.
Did you select "Compile All" on your source code to make sure all sources
get recompiled to qt?



On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 at 02:32, Ian Roper <ian.roper at iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Changed over - not editable either.
>
> any reference to WebView.Editable produces an error. {Unknown Symbol}
>
>
> File or directory does not exist at line #2:
>
> @{symbols}
>
> Stack backtrace:
>
> CComponent._new.225
> CComponent.Get.118
> WikiMarkdown.Command.199
> Markup.ConvertMarkup.164
> Markup.Convert.36
> Markdown.ToHTML.15
> Wiki._PrintPage.344
> Wiki.Wiki.0
> WebPage.__Render.31
> WebPage.Render.56
> Main.Main.735
> *gb.qt5.webview / webview / *
>
>          Components
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>           Component=gb.image
> *          Component=gb.qt5*
>           Component=gb.form
>           Component=gb.db
>           Component=gb.desktop
>           Component=gb.eval
>           Component=gb.eval.highlight
>           Component=gb.util
>           Component=gb.form.editor
>           Component=gb.settings
>           Component=gb.media
>           Component=gb.media.form
> *          Component=gb.qt5.webview*
>           Component=gb.sdl2.audio
>           Component=gb.web
>           Component=gb.xml
>
>    -End of Technical Document-
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> IR
>
>
> On 31/12/20 9:20 am, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>
> Le 31/12/2020 ? 02:05, Ian Roper a ?crit :
>
> Can't find the parameter to make a webview editable and went to the help
> and got this...
>
>   comp ? gb.gui.webview ? webview File or directory does not exist at line
> #2:
>
> @{symbols}
>
> Stack backtrace:
>
> CComponent._new.225
> CComponent.Get.118
> WikiMarkdown.Command.199
> Markup.ConvertMarkup.164
> Markup.Convert.36
> Markdown.ToHTML.15
> Wiki._PrintPage.344
> Wiki.Wiki.0
> WebPage.__Render.31
> WebPage.Render.56
> Main.Main.735
> gb.gui.webview / webview /
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> IR
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> WebView of 'gb.gui.webview' is not editable.
>
> Regards,
>
> On 31/12/20 9:20 am, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>
> Le 31/12/2020 ? 02:05, Ian Roper a ?crit :
>
> Can't find the parameter to make a webview editable and went to the help
> and got this...
>
>   comp ? gb.gui.webview ? webview File or directory does not exist at line
> #2:
>
> @{symbols}
>
> Stack backtrace:
>
> CComponent._new.225
> CComponent.Get.118
> WikiMarkdown.Command.199
> Markup.ConvertMarkup.164
> Markup.Convert.36
> Markdown.ToHTML.15
> Wiki._PrintPage.344
> Wiki.Wiki.0
> WebPage.__Render.31
> WebPage.Render.56
> Main.Main.735
> gb.gui.webview / webview /
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> IR
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
> WebView of 'gb.gui.webview' is not editable.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 17:00:24 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 16:00:24 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <561eaf2a-c44a-554a-5836-eb67747f4ed3@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 19:20, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 30/12/2020 ? 20:10, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > aah , now you tell me lol.
> > okay point noted.
> >
> > On the plus side though i have BSD compiling up to date :)
> > (well GhostBSD at least)
> >
> > I've encountered 3 issues with 3 fixes applied after getting the
> > dependencies right...
> >
> > 1. trunk_version.h does not get created in ./main/
> > fix: copy the trunk_version.h file from another source folder
>
> No idea why.
>

Me neither,  where is the command that does it? I can investigate.



> > 2. sys/sysmacros.h not found for gbx_c_file.c
> > fix: commented out the define line on line 35.
> > (is there a way sysmacros.h can be ditched? maybe import the code?)
>
> You can use an "#ifdef OS_BSD" to not include the file on BSD.


Excellent , #ifndif even ;)



> > 3. BSD rmdir command does not like the --ignore-non-empty flag in the
> > makefiles  (it does not use ANY -- prefixes)
> > Fix: remove flag
>
> Is there a flag that does the same thing as in Linux?
>
Does not look like it, it has 2 args -pv
BSD info....

The following option is available:

     *-p*	     Each *directory* argument is	treated	as a pathname of which all
	     components	will be	removed, if they are empty, starting with the
	     last most component.  (See	rm(1)
<https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=rm&sektion=1&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+12.2-RELEASE+and+Ports>
for fully	non-discriminant re-
	     cursive removal.)

     *-v*	     Be	verbose, listing each directory	as it is removed.

I've made a branch for testing (cannot find BSD docker image on gitlab)
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/tree/master-bsd

Applied the #ifndef OS_BSD fix  (works a treat)

Removed the -ignore-fail-on-non-empty flag (can what this does be done
another way?)

Only problems from master are missing rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty flag
and trunk_version.h creation needs sorting out.

Wishing well
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From taboege at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 17:31:32 2020
From: taboege at gmail.com (Tobias Boege)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:31:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDP9D0jpfpxAUr1Yh+Hq7YvNCj4ScNarY0kEKK5p7ktQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDhjkN0Wz09vn5V-RMDXj_1PpGEZ=Ud_VPeYXHauPOStg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCBuGgYo_Y4tLKkoZ9uZYWSg+dym_gbAE2+ibuJhZkyLsQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <c3b7d859-c548-4598-4539-df81413e58c3@gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCCR41YwcQkftAyv5+a=7G0NpG-OV+OuxnJHO9KEXzKXyg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20201231163132.GD1282@highrise.localdomain>

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 19:20, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Le 30/12/2020 ? 20:10, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > > aah , now you tell me lol.
> > > okay point noted.
> > >
> > > On the plus side though i have BSD compiling up to date :)
> > > (well GhostBSD at least)
> > >
> > > I've encountered 3 issues with 3 fixes applied after getting the
> > > dependencies right...
> > >
> > > 1. trunk_version.h does not get created in ./main/
> > > fix: copy the trunk_version.h file from another source folder
> >
> > No idea why.
> >
> 
> Me neither,  where is the command that does it? I can investigate.
> 

It's in main/Makefile.am near the beginning of the file.

The configure script translates Makefile.am into a real Makefile, so you
have to re-./configure after you made changes to Makefile.am to regenerate
the Makefile, if you want to test your changes in the actual build process.

Regards,
Tobias

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 18:22:51 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:22:51 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <CABuQYCDP9D0jpfpxAUr1Yh+Hq7YvNCj4ScNarY0kEKK5p7ktQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCDhjkN0Wz09vn5V-RMDXj_1PpGEZ=Ud_VPeYXHauPOStg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABuQYCBuGgYo_Y4tLKkoZ9uZYWSg+dym_gbAE2+ibuJhZkyLsQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <c3b7d859-c548-4598-4539-df81413e58c3@gmail.com>
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> 2. sys/sysmacros.h not found for gbx_c_file.c

> > fix: commented out the define line on line 35.
>> > (is there a way sysmacros.h can be ditched? maybe import the code?)
>>
>> You can use an "#ifdef OS_BSD" to not include the file on BSD.
>
>
> Excellent , #ifndif even ;)
>

#ifndef even lol :)
I've fixed trunk_version.h problem here...
possibly not on bash on bsd, modified the if conditions format a little.
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/blob/master-bsd/main/Makefile.am


My todo list on perfecting the BSD compile is now this...
gotta go through the individual QT dependencies as installing just 'qt5'
installs LOADS, much not needed, 200mb of docs 120mb examples, etc. It
seemed useful as it also installed lots of other dependencies like llvm and
postgresql but i think it's be better to just get what's needed to reduce
downloads. (having just a base system and installing deps ate up a 20gb VM
drive)

All the best
BruceS
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 18:23:36 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:23:36 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <20201231163132.GD1282@highrise.localdomain>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CABuQYCBuGgYo_Y4tLKkoZ9uZYWSg+dym_gbAE2+ibuJhZkyLsQ@mail.gmail.com>
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i found and fixed problem :)
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/blob/master-bsd/main/Makefile.am


On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 at 16:32, Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 19:20, Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Le 30/12/2020 ? 20:10, Bruce Steers a ?crit :
> > > > aah , now you tell me lol.
> > > > okay point noted.
> > > >
> > > > On the plus side though i have BSD compiling up to date :)
> > > > (well GhostBSD at least)
> > > >
> > > > I've encountered 3 issues with 3 fixes applied after getting the
> > > > dependencies right...
> > > >
> > > > 1. trunk_version.h does not get created in ./main/
> > > > fix: copy the trunk_version.h file from another source folder
> > >
> > > No idea why.
> > >
> >
> > Me neither,  where is the command that does it? I can investigate.
> >
>
> It's in main/Makefile.am near the beginning of the file.
>
> The configure script translates Makefile.am into a real Makefile, so you
> have to re-./configure after you made changes to Makefile.am to regenerate
> the Makefile, if you want to test your changes in the actual build process.
>
> Regards,
> Tobias
>
> --
> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 19:20:23 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 18:20:23 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
In-Reply-To: <561eaf2a-c44a-554a-5836-eb67747f4ed3@gmail.com>
References: <CABuQYCBnjLPPCOwfBMfrYK4yuNQ0g5mbmZn0CeJPJCeq+VOVOw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CABuQYCBuGgYo_Y4tLKkoZ9uZYWSg+dym_gbAE2+ibuJhZkyLsQ@mail.gmail.com>
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This is all very nearly fixed and ready to be forgotten about again ;)

Only issue left is rmdir


> > I've encountered 3 issues with 3 fixes applied after getting the
> > dependencies right...
>

Will make dependency list better, qt5 needs to be replaced for individual
components


> > 1. trunk_version.h does not get created in ./main/
> > fix: copy the trunk_version.h file from another source folder
>
> No idea why.
>

fixed here..
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/commit/6f8d861760db57ec58358c962be3b2791beaef7c


> > 2. sys/sysmacros.h not found for gbx_c_file.c
> > fix: commented out the define line on line 35.
> > (is there a way sysmacros.h can be ditched? maybe import the code?)
>
> You can use an "#ifdef OS_BSD" to not include the file on BSD.
>

fixed here...
https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/commit/f6bcd6e121b0eeee458653161914df6b11178a75



> > 3. BSD rmdir command does not like the --ignore-non-empty flag in the
> > makefiles  (it does not use ANY -- prefixes)
> > Fix: remove flag
>
> Is there a flag that does the same thing as in Linux?
>

Just this one left...

Is there a var to detect BSD like OS_BSD for the makefile?
could change to...

* if test $OS_BSD -eq 1; then; \*
*  rmdir $(DESTDIR)$(datarootdir)/desktop-directories; \*

*else; \*
*  rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty
$(DESTDIR)$(datarootdir)/desktop-directories; \*
*fi; \*

Was almost ready to submit a merge request then remembered about this rmdir
issue.

Respects.
BruceS
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From taboege at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 20:04:48 2020
From: taboege at gmail.com (Tobias Boege)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 20:04:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
> i found and fixed problem :)
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/blob/master-bsd/main/Makefile.am
> 

Could you explain what the problem was? Was it a GNU-, bash-, Linux-ism in
the script or something else entirely? The diff of that commit [1] doesn't
make sense to me. Why would removing a layer of dollars on *some* shell
variables fix anything? Moreover, do they not get expanded too soon now?

What the trunk_version.h feature does is put version control data into the
output of the compiler and interpreter version, in addition to the Gambas
version string, i.e. if you compile from a git repository, you get:

  $ main/gbc/gbc3 --version
  3.14.90 46625f446 (gb.test.tap)

Sorry to bother, but I don't have a BSD available. But if I had I would try
to make a *fresh* clone of your master-bsd branch and run the routine

  cd main && ./reconf && ./configure && make trunk_version.h && cat trunk_version.h

to check if that problem really is fixed. If you then build the compiler or
interpreter and call it with the --version flag, you should see your current
commit "fdff17b00" and the "master-bsd" branch mentioned in the output.

Regards,
Tobias

[1] https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/commit/fdff17b005c2fbea193539927c1d4dadae5ef3ed

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From bsteers4 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 21:51:29 2020
From: bsteers4 at gmail.com (Bruce Steers)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 20:51:29 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] BSD gambas compile
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Do not fret Tobias.
I have a knack for looking at things alternatively.
The double $$ is not something I've used before so issued that line as I
would have done. I tried a number of other things too till I found the
issue.

Why? You ask. Lol, I'm sure we've both been at this long enough to know,
god knows why it works better that way, but it does ?

And yes I've checked the output trunk_version.h file against original and
using changes on bsd and linux.
Tis all good ?

The only "bad" change done is I removed a non empty flag from rmdir
commands in app/
All other changes I think are sound.
BruceS

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020, 19:05 Tobias Boege, <taboege at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020, Bruce Steers wrote:
> > i found and fixed problem :)
> > https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/blob/master-bsd/main/Makefile.am
> >
>
> Could you explain what the problem was? Was it a GNU-, bash-, Linux-ism in
> the script or something else entirely? The diff of that commit [1] doesn't
> make sense to me. Why would removing a layer of dollars on *some* shell
> variables fix anything? Moreover, do they not get expanded too soon now?
>
> What the trunk_version.h feature does is put version control data into the
> output of the compiler and interpreter version, in addition to the Gambas
> version string, i.e. if you compile from a git repository, you get:
>
>   $ main/gbc/gbc3 --version
>   3.14.90 46625f446 (gb.test.tap)
>
> Sorry to bother, but I don't have a BSD available. But if I had I would try
> to make a *fresh* clone of your master-bsd branch and run the routine
>
>   cd main && ./reconf && ./configure && make trunk_version.h && cat
> trunk_version.h
>
> to check if that problem really is fixed. If you then build the compiler or
> interpreter and call it with the --version flag, you should see your
> current
> commit "fdff17b00" and the "master-bsd" branch mentioned in the output.
>
> Regards,
> Tobias
>
> [1]
> https://gitlab.com/bsteers4/gambas/-/commit/fdff17b005c2fbea193539927c1d4dadae5ef3ed
>
> --
> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From ian.roper at iinet.net.au  Thu Dec 31 22:59:14 2020
From: ian.roper at iinet.net.au (Ian Roper)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 05:59:14 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Web View help
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Thanks Bruce.

It used to work for me too about a week ago. - I have a number of 
programs that use this component.

Primary drive died on Sat 26th.

Replaced and installed a fresh Mint 20 & updates to current.

Installed Gambas using the PPA gambas-team/gambas-daily

Broken since then, and that's the only thing that appears not to work.


I see that Benoit has mentioned that the daily updates are not working 
so I'll wait until that is fixed
and I get a fresh build to see if that fixes it.

The only other thing I can think of is that I'm missing something (qt?) 
from the Mint build, but that does seem unlikely.


Cheers.

IR




On 31/12/20 11:47 pm, Bruce Steers wrote:
> I have an app that uses qt webview and uses the Editable setting.
> It's working fine here.
> Did you select "Compile All" on your source code to make sure all 
> sources get recompiled to qt?
>
>
>
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 at 02:32, Ian Roper <ian.roper at iinet.net.au 
> <mailto:ian.roper at iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>
>     Changed over - not editable either.
>
>     any reference to WebView.Editable produces an error. {Unknown Symbol}
>
>
>     File or directory does not exist at line #2:
>
>     @{symbols}
>
>     Stack backtrace:
>
>     CComponent._new.225
>     CComponent.Get.118
>     WikiMarkdown.Command.199
>     Markup.ConvertMarkup.164
>     Markup.Convert.36
>     Markdown.ToHTML.15
>     Wiki._PrintPage.344
>     Wiki.Wiki.0
>     WebPage.__Render.31
>     WebPage.Render.56
>     Main.Main.735
>     *gb.qt5.webview / webview / *
>
>     ???????? Components
>     --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     ????????? Component=gb.image
>     *????????? Component=gb.qt5*
>     ????????? Component=gb.form
>     ????????? Component=gb.db
>     ????????? Component=gb.desktop
>     ????????? Component=gb.eval
>     ????????? Component=gb.eval.highlight
>     ????????? Component=gb.util
>     ????????? Component=gb.form.editor
>     ????????? Component=gb.settings
>     ????????? Component=gb.media
>     ????????? Component=gb.media.form
>     *????????? Component=gb.qt5.webview*
>     ????????? Component=gb.sdl2.audio
>     ????????? Component=gb.web
>     ????????? Component=gb.xml
>
>     ?? -End of Technical Document-
>
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     IR
>
>
>     On 31/12/20 9:20 am, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>     Le 31/12/2020 ? 02:05, Ian Roper a ?crit?:
>>>     Can't find the parameter to make a webview editable and went to
>>>     the help and got this...
>>>
>>>     ??comp ? gb.gui.webview ? webview File or directory does not
>>>     exist at line #2:
>>>
>>>     @{symbols}
>>>
>>>     Stack backtrace:
>>>
>>>     CComponent._new.225
>>>     CComponent.Get.118
>>>     WikiMarkdown.Command.199
>>>     Markup.ConvertMarkup.164
>>>     Markup.Convert.36
>>>     Markdown.ToHTML.15
>>>     Wiki._PrintPage.344
>>>     Wiki.Wiki.0
>>>     WebPage.__Render.31
>>>     WebPage.Render.56
>>>     Main.Main.735
>>>     gb.gui.webview / webview /
>>>
>>>
>>>     Cheers,
>>>
>>>     IR
>>>
>>>
>>>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>>     WebView of 'gb.gui.webview' is not editable.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>     On 31/12/20 9:20 am, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>     Le 31/12/2020 ? 02:05, Ian Roper a ?crit?:
>>>     Can't find the parameter to make a webview editable and went to
>>>     the help and got this...
>>>
>>>     ??comp ? gb.gui.webview ? webview File or directory does not
>>>     exist at line #2:
>>>
>>>     @{symbols}
>>>
>>>     Stack backtrace:
>>>
>>>     CComponent._new.225
>>>     CComponent.Get.118
>>>     WikiMarkdown.Command.199
>>>     Markup.ConvertMarkup.164
>>>     Markup.Convert.36
>>>     Markdown.ToHTML.15
>>>     Wiki._PrintPage.344
>>>     Wiki.Wiki.0
>>>     WebPage.__Render.31
>>>     WebPage.Render.56
>>>     Main.Main.735
>>>     gb.gui.webview / webview /
>>>
>>>
>>>     Cheers,
>>>
>>>     IR
>>>
>>>
>>>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>>
>>     WebView of 'gb.gui.webview' is not editable.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>
>     ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
>
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