From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  1 09:55:45 2019
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2019 19:25:45 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Scrolling text in a textbox?
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Thank you Gialuigi! That was exactly what I was after. Slick and elegant,

@Fabien. Only because I was looking for a quick solution,

(The long story continues here, So you can ignore the rest if you so 
choose.)

Just arrived back from a road trip of the western and central wineries 
of Victoria. Some big ones and a lot of smaller producers. Most seem to 
be quite interested in what we are envisioning.  However it is a hard 
job to convince some of them that this is not another advertising web site.
In fact, at the moment it is anything but a website. The basic pitch is 
this:
"How do you clear your remnants? ... Well suppose that you could put 
their listing on an internet system at no cost - no cost.
What we are building is a system that will list your remnant wines to a 
select list of buyers, yes just like a wine club. But with a slight twist!
We are not offering to buy your remnants, just list them.
Our users are of a type that are usually searching for orders of, say, 3 
dozen bottles.  In general they are sick and tired of looking through 
tens of websites, dozens of junk mail in the hope they will find a 
"bargain".
What we propose is to do the searching for them.
Now I'm not going to .....

etc etc etc.

But it seems that there is an interest, possibly a larger interest than 
I thought. (and I also thought that I had retired!)

Getting back to why I'm not allowed in the kitchen. The original 
"thinky" about the concept took about two days. The initial, working, 
prototype another three. PRAISE BE TO GAMBAS!

It's still very early days but this seems to be a bigger winner than the 
horse auctions.... and I get a benefit of (ahem) sampling some very good 
and uncommonly available (ahem) agricultural produce. ... ... hic!

Anyway guys, thanks for the responses. All appreciated.

bw
]b



On 28/11/19 6:51 pm, Gianluigi wrote:
> Hi Fabien,
> 
> Is it okay if I am the one interested in your solution (drawing area)?
> :-)
> 
> Regards
> Gianluigi
> 
> Il giorno mer 27 nov 2019 alle ore 16:31 Fabien Bodard 
> <gambas.fr at gmail.com <mailto:gambas.fr at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
>     Why a textbox ?... It can be a Drawingarea ?
> 
>     Le mer. 27 nov. 2019 ? 14:00, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com
>     <mailto:bagonergi at gmail.com>> a ?crit :
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Il giorno mer 27 nov 2019 alle ore 10:10 Bruce
>     <adamnt42 at gmail.com <mailto:adamnt42 at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
>      >>
>      >> Is there a way or has anyone achieved a custom control that does the
>      >> <marquee> ... blah blah blah ...</marquee> thing in a textbox?
>      >>
>      >> I never thought I would want one, but stange how life pans out.
>      >>
>      >> There is a constant, albeit sporadic, set of "updates" that
>     affect one
>      >> or more things that the user is "watching". So I thought maybe if we
>      >> could scroll the last so many messages in a status bar type of
>     thing.
>      >>
>      >> Yes, we are back in the online "auction" game again :-[
>      >> At least this time it's a bit slower.
>      >>
>      >> Let's say for Christmas Day you are looking for a 2016 Langhorne
>     Creek
>      >> Shiraz. (In fact to qualify you need to be looking for 2 or 3
>     dozen.) We
>      >> have about 8 wineries and around 80 outlets (retail, wholesale and
>      >> cellar door) that provide that vintage. Also you are looking for
>     one or
>      >> two bottles of 2012 North Victorian Muscat, six or so bottles of
>      >> something-or-other fizz and a bottle of sweet? sherry for Aunt Jane.
>      >>
>      >> The idea is you stick that order in and we do the "go searching".
>      >> Originally I thought we could just come up with the "best fit/best
>      >> value" answer. However it appears that
>      >> a) this can take a bit of time.. up to about 10 minutes and
>      >> b) if someone has got the Muscat on a two for one sale and another
>      >> "sticky" is even better value then "best value" becomes a bit
>     meaningless.
>      >>
>      >> (Sheesh! This was supposed to be a retirement hobby project! AKA
>     someone
>      >> said (and I cant quote the exact words for fear of being
>     censored but it
>      >> was along the lines of...) GET OUT OF MY KITCHEN AND GO DO
>     SOMETHING!)
>      >> Well, that worked.? ?I have spent the last three weeks demoing
>     the very
>      >> rudimentary prototype to more marketers and sales reps than I ever
>      >> wished to meet in my life.? The trouble is not only do they like it,
>      >> they have got lots of "wonderful suggestions". Sadly, most of their
>      >> ideas involve web-sites promoting their product. Which is the
>     antithesis
>      >> of what we are trying to do.
>      >>
>      >> The original idea was based on your ordinary "wine club" sort of
>     thing.
>      >> We'd go and sign up a few bespoke wineries and they'd tell us
>     what they
>      >> were remaindering, i.e. the stuff they wanted to move so this years
>      >> vintage could occupy the space released. We weren't going to
>     "sell" it,
>      >> we would just "list it". Any club member could log in and see
>     who was
>      >> trying to move what stuff.? No fancies, no bling.? They saw
>     something
>      >> they liked, click and get a phone number or email address to
>     order some.
>      >> No fee, no commission. Just that (ahem) I'd get a few bargains
>     here and
>      >> there. Well, that idea soon blew up!
>      >>
>      >> So now we have a relatively decent sort of client-server thingo
>     going
>      >> that about 60 people are using sporadically and a bunch of
>     marketers who
>      >> want to put videos with surround sound stereo on it. AAAAARRRGH!
>     This is
>      >> just exactly what I am trying to avoid!
>      >>
>      >> However the UI is crap. My fault.
>      >>
>      >> So.
>      >>
>      >> Instead of having to read the current stdout gibberish we print
>     while
>      >> searching through catalogues and websites for partial matches and
>      >> possible goodies. Someone suggested that maybe we could do a slowly
>      >> scrolling sort of marquee thing across the bottom. Most times it
>     would
>      >> say sort of "... still looking ..." and show some found items.
>     OK I said
>      >> ... BUT THERE WILL BE NO ADVERTISING!
>      >>
>      >> (Well that was a long way to get to the point. Sorry folks!)
>      >>
>      >> But any ideas?
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> tia
>      >> bruce
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> .................? >>>>>> Best buys are here!!!!!! ...... Sign up
>      >> now!!!!! ..... (French horn concerto).....? ?<bold><purple> DO
>     IT NOW!
>      >> <flash>
>      >>
>      >> B: Joanne, get out of my emails!
>      >> J: pppppppp!!!
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > I got lost in your speech, limited my answer to the title
>     attaching a small test.
>      >
>      > Regards
>      > Gianluigi
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by
>     https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> 
> 
> 
>     -- 
>     Fabien Bodard
> 
>     ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> 

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  1 10:02:14 2019
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2019 19:32:14 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Just for interest, size of Gambas projects?
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Followed the rest of this conversation. But what I find is interesting 
from my point of view is that the "biggest" single project in the horse 
auctions system was about 3000 lines of code.

But when I turned the source code over to the shareholders this year the 
total size of the source was over 300GB. This, of course, included a 
truck load of documentation. However, the entire system involved 
(guessing here ..) 50 or so UI projects and about 80 libraries and 
components.

I guess that I just "modularise" a lot! :-) :-( ;-!

b

On 28/11/19 11:47 pm, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> As the topic says, what is your biggest Gambas project?
> I'm interested in how big projects Gambas is used.
> 
> IDE --> Project properties --> Statistics --> Lines of code
> 
> I know lines of code is quite bad metric, but it gives some picture.
> My typical project is very small, but my biggest is 52 316 lines.
> 
> IDE is about 82 000 lines.
> 
> 
> Jussi
> 
> 
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> 

From charlie at cogier.com  Sun Dec  1 13:26:24 2019
From: charlie at cogier.com (Charlie Ogier)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2019 12:26:24 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Scrolling text in a textbox?
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Hi Bruce,

Here are 2 more possible takes on this issue that may be of interest.

Charlie

On 01/12/2019 08:55, Bruce wrote:
> Thank you Gialuigi! That was exactly what I was after. Slick and elegant,
>
> @Fabien. Only because I was looking for a quick solution,
>
> (The long story continues here, So you can ignore the rest if you so 
> choose.)
>
> Just arrived back from a road trip of the western and central wineries 
> of Victoria. Some big ones and a lot of smaller producers. Most seem 
> to be quite interested in what we are envisioning.? However it is a 
> hard job to convince some of them that this is not another advertising 
> web site.
> In fact, at the moment it is anything but a website. The basic pitch 
> is this:
> "How do you clear your remnants? ... Well suppose that you could put 
> their listing on an internet system at no cost - no cost.
> What we are building is a system that will list your remnant wines to 
> a select list of buyers, yes just like a wine club. But with a slight 
> twist!
> We are not offering to buy your remnants, just list them.
> Our users are of a type that are usually searching for orders of, say, 
> 3 dozen bottles.? In general they are sick and tired of looking 
> through tens of websites, dozens of junk mail in the hope they will 
> find a "bargain".
> What we propose is to do the searching for them.
> Now I'm not going to .....
>
> etc etc etc.
>
> But it seems that there is an interest, possibly a larger interest 
> than I thought. (and I also thought that I had retired!)
>
> Getting back to why I'm not allowed in the kitchen. The original 
> "thinky" about the concept took about two days. The initial, working, 
> prototype another three. PRAISE BE TO GAMBAS!
>
> It's still very early days but this seems to be a bigger winner than 
> the horse auctions.... and I get a benefit of (ahem) sampling some 
> very good and uncommonly available (ahem) agricultural produce. ... 
> ... hic!
>
> Anyway guys, thanks for the responses. All appreciated.
>
> bw
> ]b
>
>
>
> On 28/11/19 6:51 pm, Gianluigi wrote:
>> Hi Fabien,
>>
>> Is it okay if I am the one interested in your solution (drawing area)?
>> :-)
>>
>> Regards
>> Gianluigi
>>
>> Il giorno mer 27 nov 2019 alle ore 16:31 Fabien Bodard 
>> <gambas.fr at gmail.com <mailto:gambas.fr at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
>>
>> ??? Why a textbox ?... It can be a Drawingarea ?
>>
>> ??? Le mer. 27 nov. 2019 ? 14:00, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com
>> ??? <mailto:bagonergi at gmail.com>> a ?crit :
>> ???? >
>> ???? >
>> ???? >
>> ???? > Il giorno mer 27 nov 2019 alle ore 10:10 Bruce
>> ??? <adamnt42 at gmail.com <mailto:adamnt42 at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> Is there a way or has anyone achieved a custom control that 
>> does the
>> ???? >> <marquee> ... blah blah blah ...</marquee> thing in a textbox?
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> I never thought I would want one, but stange how life pans out.
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> There is a constant, albeit sporadic, set of "updates" that
>> ??? affect one
>> ???? >> or more things that the user is "watching". So I thought 
>> maybe if we
>> ???? >> could scroll the last so many messages in a status bar type of
>> ??? thing.
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> Yes, we are back in the online "auction" game again :-[
>> ???? >> At least this time it's a bit slower.
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> Let's say for Christmas Day you are looking for a 2016 Langhorne
>> ??? Creek
>> ???? >> Shiraz. (In fact to qualify you need to be looking for 2 or 3
>> ??? dozen.) We
>> ???? >> have about 8 wineries and around 80 outlets (retail, 
>> wholesale and
>> ???? >> cellar door) that provide that vintage. Also you are looking for
>> ??? one or
>> ???? >> two bottles of 2012 North Victorian Muscat, six or so bottles of
>> ???? >> something-or-other fizz and a bottle of sweet sherry for Aunt 
>> Jane.
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> The idea is you stick that order in and we do the "go 
>> searching".
>> ???? >> Originally I thought we could just come up with the "best 
>> fit/best
>> ???? >> value" answer. However it appears that
>> ???? >> a) this can take a bit of time.. up to about 10 minutes and
>> ???? >> b) if someone has got the Muscat on a two for one sale and 
>> another
>> ???? >> "sticky" is even better value then "best value" becomes a bit
>> ??? meaningless.
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> (Sheesh! This was supposed to be a retirement hobby project! AKA
>> ??? someone
>> ???? >> said (and I cant quote the exact words for fear of being
>> ??? censored but it
>> ???? >> was along the lines of...) GET OUT OF MY KITCHEN AND GO DO
>> ??? SOMETHING!)
>> ???? >> Well, that worked.? ?I have spent the last three weeks demoing
>> ??? the very
>> ???? >> rudimentary prototype to more marketers and sales reps than I 
>> ever
>> ???? >> wished to meet in my life.? The trouble is not only do they 
>> like it,
>> ???? >> they have got lots of "wonderful suggestions". Sadly, most of 
>> their
>> ???? >> ideas involve web-sites promoting their product. Which is the
>> ??? antithesis
>> ???? >> of what we are trying to do.
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> The original idea was based on your ordinary "wine club" sort of
>> ??? thing.
>> ???? >> We'd go and sign up a few bespoke wineries and they'd tell us
>> ??? what they
>> ???? >> were remaindering, i.e. the stuff they wanted to move so this 
>> years
>> ???? >> vintage could occupy the space released. We weren't going to
>> ??? "sell" it,
>> ???? >> we would just "list it". Any club member could log in and see
>> ??? who was
>> ???? >> trying to move what stuff.? No fancies, no bling. They saw
>> ??? something
>> ???? >> they liked, click and get a phone number or email address to
>> ??? order some.
>> ???? >> No fee, no commission. Just that (ahem) I'd get a few bargains
>> ??? here and
>> ???? >> there. Well, that idea soon blew up!
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> So now we have a relatively decent sort of client-server thingo
>> ??? going
>> ???? >> that about 60 people are using sporadically and a bunch of
>> ??? marketers who
>> ???? >> want to put videos with surround sound stereo on it. AAAAARRRGH!
>> ??? This is
>> ???? >> just exactly what I am trying to avoid!
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> However the UI is crap. My fault.
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> So.
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> Instead of having to read the current stdout gibberish we print
>> ??? while
>> ???? >> searching through catalogues and websites for partial matches 
>> and
>> ???? >> possible goodies. Someone suggested that maybe we could do a 
>> slowly
>> ???? >> scrolling sort of marquee thing across the bottom. Most times it
>> ??? would
>> ???? >> say sort of "... still looking ..." and show some found items.
>> ??? OK I said
>> ???? >> ... BUT THERE WILL BE NO ADVERTISING!
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> (Well that was a long way to get to the point. Sorry folks!)
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> But any ideas?
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> tia
>> ???? >> bruce
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> .................? >>>>>> Best buys are here!!!!!! ...... 
>> Sign up
>> ???? >> now!!!!! ..... (French horn concerto)..... ?<bold><purple> DO
>> ??? IT NOW!
>> ???? >> <flash>
>> ???? >>
>> ???? >> B: Joanne, get out of my emails!
>> ???? >> J: pppppppp!!!
>> ???? >
>> ???? >
>> ???? >
>> ???? > I got lost in your speech, limited my answer to the title
>> ??? attaching a small test.
>> ???? >
>> ???? > Regards
>> ???? > Gianluigi
>> ???? >
>> ???? >
>> ???? >
>> ???? > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by
>> ??? https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>
>>
>>
>> ??? -- ??? Fabien Bodard
>>
>> ??? ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by 
>> https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>
>>
>>
>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>
>
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Sun Dec  1 15:16:26 2019
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2019 16:16:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Just for interest, size of Gambas projects?
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Yes, it's not that good measure. Just for interest, not for competition.
Generally less code is better, with obvious exceptions like performance
critical algorithms and readability.

BTW, look at lines in Linux kernel.


Jussi

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 11:03 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Followed the rest of this conversation. But what I find is interesting
> from my point of view is that the "biggest" single project in the horse
> auctions system was about 3000 lines of code.
>
> But when I turned the source code over to the shareholders this year the
> total size of the source was over 300GB. This, of course, included a
> truck load of documentation. However, the entire system involved
> (guessing here ..) 50 or so UI projects and about 80 libraries and
> components.
>
> I guess that I just "modularise" a lot! :-) :-( ;-!
>
> b
>
> On 28/11/19 11:47 pm, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> > As the topic says, what is your biggest Gambas project?
> > I'm interested in how big projects Gambas is used.
> >
> > IDE --> Project properties --> Statistics --> Lines of code
> >
> > I know lines of code is quite bad metric, but it gives some picture.
> > My typical project is very small, but my biggest is 52 316 lines.
> >
> > IDE is about 82 000 lines.
> >
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> >
> > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> >
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
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From lapisdecor at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 08:08:44 2019
From: lapisdecor at gmail.com (Luis Louro)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 07:08:44 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
Message-ID: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.

How need a spinbox with values like 2.85 but the step is only Integer
values. Is there a way to define a decimal step?

Thanks

Luis Louro

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 10:22:20 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 10:22:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
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Il giorno lun 2 dic 2019 alle ore 08:09 Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Hi.
>
> How need a spinbox with values like 2.85 but the step is only Integer
> values. Is there a way to define a decimal step?
>
> Thanks
>
> Luis Louro
>


I apologize to Benoit for manipulating his code, I am attaching a component
that should do what you ask.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 10:24:01 2019
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 10:24:01 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
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Humm... no :-)... a spinbox is definitively integer.

So ... this is the float version :-)

Well it's a no tested class with many display bugs but it seem to do
the job well. Just make sure that the step is a multiple of the gap
between the min and max value.

Put this class in your project, it's a gambas widget that act like one
from a component. Just do a compile all and it will appear in the
toolbox.






Le lun. 2 d?c. 2019 ? 08:09, Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>
> Hi.
>
> How need a spinbox with values like 2.85 but the step is only Integer values. Is there a way to define a decimal step?
>
> Thanks
>
> Luis Louro
>
> --
> AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
> eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
> da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
> destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo conte?do
> e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
>
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From lapisdecor at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 12:07:21 2019
From: lapisdecor at gmail.com (Luis Louro)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 11:07:21 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
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Hi Fabien, nice to meet you.
What do you mean by multiple of the gap? Can you give me an example? I was
trying a 0.10 step for min 0 and max 100 but no sucess.

Luis Louro

Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 2/12/2019 ?(s)
10:10:

> Humm... no :-)... a spinbox is definitively integer.
>
> So ... this is the float version :-)
>
> Well it's a no tested class with many display bugs but it seem to do
> the job well. Just make sure that the step is a multiple of the gap
> between the min and max value.
>
> Put this class in your project, it's a gambas widget that act like one
> from a component. Just do a compile all and it will appear in the
> toolbox.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Le lun. 2 d?c. 2019 ? 08:09, Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com> a ?crit :
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > How need a spinbox with values like 2.85 but the step is only Integer
> values. Is there a way to define a decimal step?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Luis Louro
> >
> > --
> > AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
> > eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
> > da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
> > destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo
> conte?do
> > e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
> >
> > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>
>
>
> --
> Fabien Bodard
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>


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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 14:01:52 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 14:01:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know if you will see this warning, but if you look at the spam,
there should be an answer of mine with an attachment.
See here:
https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2019-December/068207.html

Il giorno lun 2 dic 2019 alle ore 13:02 Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Hi Fabien, nice to meet you.
> What do you mean by multiple of the gap? Can you give me an example? I was
> trying a 0.10 step for min 0 and max 100 but no sucess.
>
> Luis Louro
>
> Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 2/12/2019
> ?(s) 10:10:
>
>> Humm... no :-)... a spinbox is definitively integer.
>>
>> So ... this is the float version :-)
>>
>> Well it's a no tested class with many display bugs but it seem to do
>> the job well. Just make sure that the step is a multiple of the gap
>> between the min and max value.
>>
>> Put this class in your project, it's a gambas widget that act like one
>> from a component. Just do a compile all and it will appear in the
>> toolbox.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le lun. 2 d?c. 2019 ? 08:09, Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>> >
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > How need a spinbox with values like 2.85 but the step is only Integer
>> values. Is there a way to define a decimal step?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Luis Louro
>> >
>> > --
>> > AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
>> > eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
>> > da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
>> > destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo
>> conte?do
>> > e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
>> >
>> > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net
>> ]----
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fabien Bodard
>>
>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>
>
>
> --
> AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
> eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
> da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
> destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo conte?do
> e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
>
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 14:11:28 2019
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 14:11:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL7cFpghm32MaAVpmTyhPdR--gi+5n5UZJyoH41Q72zdZA@mail.gmail.com>

Try with that :-)
There was a lock if step was <1

when you write the value in the property panel remember you must use
local decimal separator (ex: "," for me)

Le lun. 2 d?c. 2019 ? 14:03, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>
> I don't know if you will see this warning, but if you look at the spam, there should be an answer of mine with an attachment.
> See here:
> https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2019-December/068207.html
>
> Il giorno lun 2 dic 2019 alle ore 13:02 Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi Fabien, nice to meet you.
>> What do you mean by multiple of the gap? Can you give me an example? I was trying a 0.10 step for min 0 and max 100 but no sucess.
>>
>> Luis Louro
>>
>> Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 2/12/2019 ?(s) 10:10:
>>>
>>> Humm... no :-)... a spinbox is definitively integer.
>>>
>>> So ... this is the float version :-)
>>>
>>> Well it's a no tested class with many display bugs but it seem to do
>>> the job well. Just make sure that the step is a multiple of the gap
>>> between the min and max value.
>>>
>>> Put this class in your project, it's a gambas widget that act like one
>>> from a component. Just do a compile all and it will appear in the
>>> toolbox.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le lun. 2 d?c. 2019 ? 08:09, Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>>> >
>>> > Hi.
>>> >
>>> > How need a spinbox with values like 2.85 but the step is only Integer values. Is there a way to define a decimal step?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Luis Louro
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
>>> > eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
>>> > da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
>>> > destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo conte?do
>>> > e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
>>> >
>>> > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Fabien Bodard
>>>
>>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
>> eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
>> da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
>> destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo conte?do
>> e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
>>
>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----



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From lapisdecor at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 19:10:59 2019
From: lapisdecor at gmail.com (Luis Louro)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 18:10:59 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL7cFpghm32MaAVpmTyhPdR--gi+5n5UZJyoH41Q72zdZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Fabien, I will try it.



Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 2/12/2019 ?(s)
13:12:

> Try with that :-)
> There was a lock if step was <1
>
> when you write the value in the property panel remember you must use
> local decimal separator (ex: "," for me)
>
> Le lun. 2 d?c. 2019 ? 14:03, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> a ?crit :
> >
> > I don't know if you will see this warning, but if you look at the spam,
> there should be an answer of mine with an attachment.
> > See here:
> > https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2019-December/068207.html
> >
> > Il giorno lun 2 dic 2019 alle ore 13:02 Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
> >>
> >> Hi Fabien, nice to meet you.
> >> What do you mean by multiple of the gap? Can you give me an example? I
> was trying a 0.10 step for min 0 and max 100 but no sucess.
> >>
> >> Luis Louro
> >>
> >> Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 2/12/2019
> ?(s) 10:10:
> >>>
> >>> Humm... no :-)... a spinbox is definitively integer.
> >>>
> >>> So ... this is the float version :-)
> >>>
> >>> Well it's a no tested class with many display bugs but it seem to do
> >>> the job well. Just make sure that the step is a multiple of the gap
> >>> between the min and max value.
> >>>
> >>> Put this class in your project, it's a gambas widget that act like one
> >>> from a component. Just do a compile all and it will appear in the
> >>> toolbox.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Le lun. 2 d?c. 2019 ? 08:09, Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi.
> >>> >
> >>> > How need a spinbox with values like 2.85 but the step is only
> Integer values. Is there a way to define a decimal step?
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks
> >>> >
> >>> > Luis Louro
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
> >>> > eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao
> conhecimento
> >>> > da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
> >>> > destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo
> conte?do
> >>> > e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
> >>> >
> >>> > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net
> ]----
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Fabien Bodard
> >>>
> >>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net
> ]----
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
> >> eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
> >> da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
> >> destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo
> conte?do
> >> e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
> >>
> >> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net
> ]----
> >
> >
> > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>
>
>
> --
> Fabien Bodard
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>


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From lapisdecor at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 19:12:16 2019
From: lapisdecor at gmail.com (Luis Louro)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 18:12:16 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello Gianluigi,

I'm sorry but I couldn't open your attachment.

Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 2/12/2019 ?(s)
13:03:

> I don't know if you will see this warning, but if you look at the spam,
> there should be an answer of mine with an attachment.
> See here:
> https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2019-December/068207.html
>
> Il giorno lun 2 dic 2019 alle ore 13:02 Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>> Hi Fabien, nice to meet you.
>> What do you mean by multiple of the gap? Can you give me an example? I
>> was trying a 0.10 step for min 0 and max 100 but no sucess.
>>
>> Luis Louro
>>
>> Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 2/12/2019
>> ?(s) 10:10:
>>
>>> Humm... no :-)... a spinbox is definitively integer.
>>>
>>> So ... this is the float version :-)
>>>
>>> Well it's a no tested class with many display bugs but it seem to do
>>> the job well. Just make sure that the step is a multiple of the gap
>>> between the min and max value.
>>>
>>> Put this class in your project, it's a gambas widget that act like one
>>> from a component. Just do a compile all and it will appear in the
>>> toolbox.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le lun. 2 d?c. 2019 ? 08:09, Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>>> >
>>> > Hi.
>>> >
>>> > How need a spinbox with values like 2.85 but the step is only Integer
>>> values. Is there a way to define a decimal step?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Luis Louro
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
>>> > eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
>>> > da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
>>> > destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo
>>> conte?do
>>> > e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
>>> >
>>> > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net
>>> ]----
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Fabien Bodard
>>>
>>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
>> eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
>> da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
>> destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo conte?do
>> e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
>>
>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>
>
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>


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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 19:26:16 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 19:26:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Did you find the file in the spam or try to download the file from the ML
archive?

I try to attach another file.

Il giorno lun 2 dic 2019 alle ore 19:15 Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Hello Gianluigi,
>
> I'm sorry but I couldn't open your attachment.
>
> Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 2/12/2019 ?(s)
> 13:03:
>
>> I don't know if you will see this warning, but if you look at the spam,
>> there should be an answer of mine with an attachment.
>> See here:
>> https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2019-December/068207.html
>>
>> Il giorno lun 2 dic 2019 alle ore 13:02 Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Hi Fabien, nice to meet you.
>>> What do you mean by multiple of the gap? Can you give me an example? I
>>> was trying a 0.10 step for min 0 and max 100 but no sucess.
>>>
>>> Luis Louro
>>>
>>> Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 2/12/2019
>>> ?(s) 10:10:
>>>
>>>> Humm... no :-)... a spinbox is definitively integer.
>>>>
>>>> So ... this is the float version :-)
>>>>
>>>> Well it's a no tested class with many display bugs but it seem to do
>>>> the job well. Just make sure that the step is a multiple of the gap
>>>> between the min and max value.
>>>>
>>>> Put this class in your project, it's a gambas widget that act like one
>>>> from a component. Just do a compile all and it will appear in the
>>>> toolbox.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le lun. 2 d?c. 2019 ? 08:09, Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com> a ?crit
>>>> :
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi.
>>>> >
>>>> > How need a spinbox with values like 2.85 but the step is only Integer
>>>> values. Is there a way to define a decimal step?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks
>>>> >
>>>> > Luis Louro
>>>> >
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>>>
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Dec  2 19:36:29 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 19:36:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFa=8rszOr7HMsrzUgXQZ9aJ1=mGzojM0sDUkz1wPa9+zw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <0cf7f2b3-475d-2b94-7b2f-97b4ad0d9992@deganius.de>

Am 02.12.19 um 19:26 schrieb Gianluigi:

> Did you find the file in the spam or try to download the file from the
> ML archive?
> 
> I try to attach another file.

Google is an idiot. It bounces files with tar.gz as ending. No one with
a Gmail account can recieve your mail.

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1

Grmbl ...

Better use a free binary pastebin like this one:
https://paste.c-net.org/
and post a link to the file in the mailinglist.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From lapisdecor at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 19:46:11 2019
From: lapisdecor at gmail.com (Luis Louro)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 18:46:11 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <0cf7f2b3-475d-2b94-7b2f-97b4ad0d9992@deganius.de>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm also not receiving your emails, not even in spam.

Luis Louro

Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de> escreveu no dia segunda, 2/12/2019
?(s) 18:37:

> Am 02.12.19 um 19:26 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
> > Did you find the file in the spam or try to download the file from the
> > ML archive?
> >
> > I try to attach another file.
>
> Google is an idiot. It bounces files with tar.gz as ending. No one with
> a Gmail account can recieve your mail.
>
>
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1
>
> Grmbl ...
>
> Better use a free binary pastebin like this one:
> https://paste.c-net.org/
> and post a link to the file in the mailinglist.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>


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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 20:01:56 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 20:01:56 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <0cf7f2b3-475d-2b94-7b2f-97b4ad0d9992@deganius.de>
 <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFabGNPVMSxHfVURUCRnpRwmqG9reKWc9KfBadLhc1jHmg@mail.gmail.com>

I did as suggested by Christof Thalhofer look for the file here:
https://paste.c-net.org/EssaysTrays

Il giorno lun 2 dic 2019 alle ore 19:47 Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> I'm also not receiving your emails, not even in spam.
>
> Luis Louro
>
> Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de> escreveu no dia segunda,
> 2/12/2019 ?(s) 18:37:
>
>> Am 02.12.19 um 19:26 schrieb Gianluigi:
>>
>> > Did you find the file in the spam or try to download the file from the
>> > ML archive?
>> >
>> > I try to attach another file.
>>
>> Google is an idiot. It bounces files with tar.gz as ending. No one with
>> a Gmail account can recieve your mail.
>>
>>
>> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1
>>
>> Grmbl ...
>>
>> Better use a free binary pastebin like this one:
>> https://paste.c-net.org/
>> and post a link to the file in the mailinglist.
>>
>> Alles Gute
>>
>> Christof Thalhofer
>>
>> --
>> Dies ist keine Signatur
>>
>>
>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>
>
>
> --
> AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
> eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
> da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
> destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo conte?do
> e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
>
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From zachsmith022 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 20:12:03 2019
From: zachsmith022 at gmail.com (Zach Smith)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 14:12:03 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Installing Gambas without Qt4 on a Raspberry Pi 3
In-Reply-To: <e0823802-55b8-8911-786d-210bcc5bc56e@gmail.com>
References: <2f12588b-d580-71ab-db9c-978f9dfe5ba4@gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4P1-jgO1hv1CbjYz60ziA=tb7FDwLB8_PYew7ZLcSiRw@mail.gmail.com>
 <fe4c74a9-20bb-0db7-e1ed-aae7f13c4d57@gmail.com>
 <e0823802-55b8-8911-786d-210bcc5bc56e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7cba3b20-acf6-2645-1918-1776142c91ae@gmail.com>

On 11/27/19 10:06 AM, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 27/11/2019 ? 15:40, Zach Smith a ?crit?:
>>
>>
>> Yes, I just tried that.? It didn't seem to help.? I've attached the 
>> log file.
>>
>>
>
> Did you clean your system for any previous Gambas installation before 
> doing the recompilation?
>
I did that and it worked. Thank you.


From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 22:04:16 2019
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 23:04:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7QfmOSZ74du=tuPioOEnyB2cpQL5Af+jMCZpJXzqkpMwA@mail.gmail.com>

Then how can you reply to them!??
Also .tar.gz files are *not* blocked by gmail. Unless they contain
forbidden files.


Jussi

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:47 PM Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm also not receiving your emails, not even in spam.
>
> Luis Louro
>
> Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de> escreveu no dia segunda,
> 2/12/2019 ?(s) 18:37:
>
>> Am 02.12.19 um 19:26 schrieb Gianluigi:
>>
>> > Did you find the file in the spam or try to download the file from the
>> > ML archive?
>> >
>> > I try to attach another file.
>>
>> Google is an idiot. It bounces files with tar.gz as ending. No one with
>> a Gmail account can recieve your mail.
>>
>>
>> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1
>>
>> Grmbl ...
>>
>> Better use a free binary pastebin like this one:
>> https://paste.c-net.org/
>> and post a link to the file in the mailinglist.
>>
>> Alles Gute
>>
>> Christof Thalhofer
>>
>> --
>> Dies ist keine Signatur
>>
>>
>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>
>
>
> --
> AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
> eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
> da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
> destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo conte?do
> e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
>
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From lapisdecor at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 22:14:38 2019
From: lapisdecor at gmail.com (Luis Louro)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 21:14:38 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFabGNPVMSxHfVURUCRnpRwmqG9reKWc9KfBadLhc1jHmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFa=8rszOr7HMsrzUgXQZ9aJ1=mGzojM0sDUkz1wPa9+zw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAH19H-VDSxZ0WfbdBFQ90XAi_sMebL1+kktJApRiVFmp5+xBQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks!

Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 2/12/2019 ?(s)
19:03:

> I did as suggested by Christof Thalhofer look for the file here:
> https://paste.c-net.org/EssaysTrays
>
> Il giorno lun 2 dic 2019 alle ore 19:47 Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>> I'm also not receiving your emails, not even in spam.
>>
>> Luis Louro
>>
>> Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de> escreveu no dia segunda,
>> 2/12/2019 ?(s) 18:37:
>>
>>> Am 02.12.19 um 19:26 schrieb Gianluigi:
>>>
>>> > Did you find the file in the spam or try to download the file from the
>>> > ML archive?
>>> >
>>> > I try to attach another file.
>>>
>>> Google is an idiot. It bounces files with tar.gz as ending. No one with
>>> a Gmail account can recieve your mail.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1
>>>
>>> Grmbl ...
>>>
>>> Better use a free binary pastebin like this one:
>>> https://paste.c-net.org/
>>> and post a link to the file in the mailinglist.
>>>
>>> Alles Gute
>>>
>>> Christof Thalhofer
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dies ist keine Signatur
>>>
>>>
>>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
>> eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
>> da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
>> destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo conte?do
>> e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
>>
>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>


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From lapisdecor at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 22:17:37 2019
From: lapisdecor at gmail.com (Luis Louro)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 21:17:37 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7QfmOSZ74du=tuPioOEnyB2cpQL5Af+jMCZpJXzqkpMwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFa=8rszOr7HMsrzUgXQZ9aJ1=mGzojM0sDUkz1wPa9+zw@mail.gmail.com>
 <0cf7f2b3-475d-2b94-7b2f-97b4ad0d9992@deganius.de>
 <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7QfmOSZ74du=tuPioOEnyB2cpQL5Af+jMCZpJXzqkpMwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH19H-Wnr2Tq3nxPip4f9GCPSgnySa4b6FsGX6s6w5suY8vSiQ@mail.gmail.com>

I could see the reply's to others on my spam folder. Also, Idk about gmail
but I think it was the mailing list that rejected the attachment.

Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda,
2/12/2019 ?(s) 21:05:

> Then how can you reply to them!??
> Also .tar.gz files are *not* blocked by gmail. Unless they contain
> forbidden files.
>
>
> Jussi
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:47 PM Luis Louro <lapisdecor at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm also not receiving your emails, not even in spam.
>>
>> Luis Louro
>>
>> Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de> escreveu no dia segunda,
>> 2/12/2019 ?(s) 18:37:
>>
>>> Am 02.12.19 um 19:26 schrieb Gianluigi:
>>>
>>> > Did you find the file in the spam or try to download the file from the
>>> > ML archive?
>>> >
>>> > I try to attach another file.
>>>
>>> Google is an idiot. It bounces files with tar.gz as ending. No one with
>>> a Gmail account can recieve your mail.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1
>>>
>>> Grmbl ...
>>>
>>> Better use a free binary pastebin like this one:
>>> https://paste.c-net.org/
>>> and post a link to the file in the mailinglist.
>>>
>>> Alles Gute
>>>
>>> Christof Thalhofer
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dies ist keine Signatur
>>>
>>>
>>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
>> eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
>> da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
>> destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo conte?do
>> e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
>>
>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>


-- 
AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem, assim como os ficheiros
eventualmente anexos, ? confidencial e reservada apenas ao conhecimento
da(s) pessoa(s) nela indicada(s) como destinat?ria(s). Se n?o ? o seu
destinat?rio, solicitamos que n?o fa?a qualquer uso do respectivo conte?do
e proceda ? sua destrui??o, notificando o remetente.
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec  3 07:59:03 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 07:59:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7QfmOSZ74du=tuPioOEnyB2cpQL5Af+jMCZpJXzqkpMwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFa=8rszOr7HMsrzUgXQZ9aJ1=mGzojM0sDUkz1wPa9+zw@mail.gmail.com>
 <0cf7f2b3-475d-2b94-7b2f-97b4ad0d9992@deganius.de>
 <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7QfmOSZ74du=tuPioOEnyB2cpQL5Af+jMCZpJXzqkpMwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a8c60d3d-0551-cc68-787f-5c93323e4fe5@deganius.de>

Am 02.12.19 um 22:04 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:

> Then how can you reply to them!??
> Also .tar.gz files are *not* blocked by gmail. Unless they contain
> forbidden files.

Ok you are right. But:

Gmail blocked and bounced *all* mails which were sent by the mailinglist
to Gmail accounts and contained SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz.

Here is the reason Google gave:

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1&hl=en

It says it blocks files with these endings:

".ade, .adp, .apk, .appx, .appxbundle, .bat, .cab, .chm, .cmd, .com,
.cpl, .dll, .dmg, .exe, .hta, .ins, .isp, .iso, .jar, .js, .jse, .lib,
.lnk, .mde, .msc, .msi, .msix, .msixbundle, .msp, .mst, .nsh, .pif,
.ps1, .scr, .sct, .shb, .sys, .vb, .vbe, .vbs, .vxd, .wsc, .wsf, .wsh"

But none of these can be found in SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz as I can see.

Btw. Google is the only provider doing that.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 10:39:47 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 10:39:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <a8c60d3d-0551-cc68-787f-5c93323e4fe5@deganius.de>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFa=8rszOr7HMsrzUgXQZ9aJ1=mGzojM0sDUkz1wPa9+zw@mail.gmail.com>
 <0cf7f2b3-475d-2b94-7b2f-97b4ad0d9992@deganius.de>
 <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7QfmOSZ74du=tuPioOEnyB2cpQL5Af+jMCZpJXzqkpMwA@mail.gmail.com>
 <a8c60d3d-0551-cc68-787f-5c93323e4fe5@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbfnqNM5t_Vdp15s-tEApsjR7veA7qSgqK8zd4tScGO8g@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno mar 3 dic 2019 alle ore 08:00 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 02.12.19 um 22:04 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>
> > Then how can you reply to them!??
> > Also .tar.gz files are *not* blocked by gmail. Unless they contain
> > forbidden files.
>
> Ok you are right. But:
> ...
>
> Btw. Google is the only provider doing that.
>

I with gmail correctly receive the Gambas ML and all the attachments
(tar.gz), thanks to the indications received from Jussi and Lee here:
https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2018-December/066077.html

However, I think the use of https://paste.c-net.org/ can solve problems
with everyone.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 10:53:47 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 10:53:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFbfnqNM5t_Vdp15s-tEApsjR7veA7qSgqK8zd4tScGO8g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFa=8rszOr7HMsrzUgXQZ9aJ1=mGzojM0sDUkz1wPa9+zw@mail.gmail.com>
 <0cf7f2b3-475d-2b94-7b2f-97b4ad0d9992@deganius.de>
 <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7QfmOSZ74du=tuPioOEnyB2cpQL5Af+jMCZpJXzqkpMwA@mail.gmail.com>
 <a8c60d3d-0551-cc68-787f-5c93323e4fe5@deganius.de>
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Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFaGqo1FinRE8OUoxj-WL9dzbpN7ce4LSLH8ELJ1Vpta8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno mar 3 dic 2019 alle ore 10:39 Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

>
>
> Il giorno mar 3 dic 2019 alle ore 08:00 Christof Thalhofer <
> chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:
>
>> Am 02.12.19 um 22:04 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>>
>> > Then how can you reply to them!??
>> > Also .tar.gz files are *not* blocked by gmail. Unless they contain
>> > forbidden files.
>>
>> Ok you are right. But:
>> ...
>>
>> Btw. Google is the only provider doing that.
>>
>
> I with gmail correctly receive the Gambas ML and all the attachments
> (tar.gz), thanks to the indications received from Jussi and Lee here:
> https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2018-December/066077.html
>
> However, I think the use of https://paste.c-net.org/ can solve problems
> with everyone.
>

I forgot,
@Christof, I think you should enter a little help for newcomers explaining
how to get attachments from the archive.

A doubt: how long is the attachment in paste.c?
Finding solutions to questions is important for research purposes.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From gambas at cd-bahia.com  Tue Dec  3 13:46:48 2019
From: gambas at cd-bahia.com (Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 13:46:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Write protected array
Message-ID: <ee4f6e2f-a614-c378-3fe5-bf25c2394281@cd-bahia.com>

Hi,
how can it be, I get? the error "Write protected array" on a PC, and on 
the one where I programmed it, not?
I copied the project folder to the other PC and tried to run.
Before I sat ownership and mode.
Thanks in advance,
Dag


From taboege at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 13:59:10 2019
From: taboege at gmail.com (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 13:59:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Write protected array
In-Reply-To: <ee4f6e2f-a614-c378-3fe5-bf25c2394281@cd-bahia.com>
References: <ee4f6e2f-a614-c378-3fe5-bf25c2394281@cd-bahia.com>
Message-ID: <20191203125910.GB3026@highrise.localdomain>

On Tue, 03 Dec 2019, Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas wrote:
> Hi,
> how can it be, I get? the error "Write protected array" on a PC, and on the
> one where I programmed it, not?
> I copied the project folder to the other PC and tried to run.
> Before I sat ownership and mode.
> Thanks in advance,
> Dag
> 

Do both systems have different Gambas versions perhaps?

Regrads,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From gambas at cd-bahia.com  Tue Dec  3 14:15:26 2019
From: gambas at cd-bahia.com (Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 14:15:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Write protected array
In-Reply-To: <ee4f6e2f-a614-c378-3fe5-bf25c2394281@cd-bahia.com>
References: <ee4f6e2f-a614-c378-3fe5-bf25c2394281@cd-bahia.com>
Message-ID: <f9f50537-138a-b4ec-2e56-8fe1cc0bf889@cd-bahia.com>

I correct myself,
I get the write protection error on the original PC/software too.
But I havent changed a bit of the source since a year, why now?


Am 2019-12-03 um 13:46 schrieb Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas:
> Hi,
> how can it be, I get? the error "Write protected array" on a PC, and 
> on the one where I programmed it, not?
> I copied the project folder to the other PC and tried to run.
> Before I sat ownership and mode.
> Thanks in advance,
> Dag
>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----


From gambas at cd-bahia.com  Tue Dec  3 14:18:04 2019
From: gambas at cd-bahia.com (Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 14:18:04 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Write protected array
In-Reply-To: <ee4f6e2f-a614-c378-3fe5-bf25c2394281@cd-bahia.com>
References: <ee4f6e2f-a614-c378-3fe5-bf25c2394281@cd-bahia.com>
Message-ID: <2dffa5b4-bf0a-3fff-5f77-ed3dd2a3b886@cd-bahia.com>

As I said in the? my reply to myself,
I have it on the original too.
I oversaw that, because I use the compiled version since a long time.
I assume something changed in Gambas itself, but what?

Am 2019-12-03 um 13:46 schrieb Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas:
> Hi,
> how can it be, I get? the error "Write protected array" on a PC, and 
> on the one where I programmed it, not?
> I copied the project folder to the other PC and tried to run.
> Before I sat ownership and mode.
> Thanks in advance,
> Dag
>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----


From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 15:55:53 2019
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 16:55:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <a8c60d3d-0551-cc68-787f-5c93323e4fe5@deganius.de>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFa=8rszOr7HMsrzUgXQZ9aJ1=mGzojM0sDUkz1wPa9+zw@mail.gmail.com>
 <0cf7f2b3-475d-2b94-7b2f-97b4ad0d9992@deganius.de>
 <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7QfmOSZ74du=tuPioOEnyB2cpQL5Af+jMCZpJXzqkpMwA@mail.gmail.com>
 <a8c60d3d-0551-cc68-787f-5c93323e4fe5@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7Qyd4QWhZujD6gONFSf4f_VW+PfMA9tx0o0bzyaxmL0qQ@mail.gmail.com>

Just testing. Anyone got this mail and the attachment?


Jussi

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 9:00 AM Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de>
wrote:

> Am 02.12.19 um 22:04 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>
> > Then how can you reply to them!??
> > Also .tar.gz files are *not* blocked by gmail. Unless they contain
> > forbidden files.
>
> Ok you are right. But:
>
> Gmail blocked and bounced *all* mails which were sent by the mailinglist
> to Gmail accounts and contained SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz.
>
> Here is the reason Google gave:
>
>
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1&hl=en
>
> It says it blocks files with these endings:
>
> ".ade, .adp, .apk, .appx, .appxbundle, .bat, .cab, .chm, .cmd, .com,
> .cpl, .dll, .dmg, .exe, .hta, .ins, .isp, .iso, .jar, .js, .jse, .lib,
> .lnk, .mde, .msc, .msi, .msix, .msixbundle, .msp, .mst, .nsh, .pif,
> .ps1, .scr, .sct, .shb, .sys, .vb, .vbe, .vbs, .vxd, .wsc, .wsf, .wsh"
>
> But none of these can be found in SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz as I can see.
>
> Btw. Google is the only provider doing that.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec  3 16:07:12 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 16:07:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7Qyd4QWhZujD6gONFSf4f_VW+PfMA9tx0o0bzyaxmL0qQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFa=8rszOr7HMsrzUgXQZ9aJ1=mGzojM0sDUkz1wPa9+zw@mail.gmail.com>
 <0cf7f2b3-475d-2b94-7b2f-97b4ad0d9992@deganius.de>
 <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7QfmOSZ74du=tuPioOEnyB2cpQL5Af+jMCZpJXzqkpMwA@mail.gmail.com>
 <a8c60d3d-0551-cc68-787f-5c93323e4fe5@deganius.de>
 <CAFJMe7Qyd4QWhZujD6gONFSf4f_VW+PfMA9tx0o0bzyaxmL0qQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8b5170cf-e88b-da97-bbfd-49afa76e74ab@deganius.de>

Am 03.12.19 um 15:55 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:

> Just testing. Anyone got this mail and the attachment?

I got it.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
[x] nail here for new monitor

From taboege at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 16:08:37 2019
From: taboege at gmail.com (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 16:08:37 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Write protected array
In-Reply-To: <2dffa5b4-bf0a-3fff-5f77-ed3dd2a3b886@cd-bahia.com>
References: <ee4f6e2f-a614-c378-3fe5-bf25c2394281@cd-bahia.com>
 <2dffa5b4-bf0a-3fff-5f77-ed3dd2a3b886@cd-bahia.com>
Message-ID: <20191203150837.GC3026@highrise.localdomain>

On Tue, 03 Dec 2019, Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas wrote:
> As I said in the? my reply to myself,
> I have it on the original too.
> I oversaw that, because I use the compiled version since a long time.
> I assume something changed in Gambas itself, but what?
> 

Quite possibly the introduction of read-only arrays with 3.14.
There was a recent bug [1] about embedded arrays being read-only,
maybe that's relevant for your case.

Without the Gambas versions you use and a minimal project which
reproduces the faulty behavior, the only way for people to help
you is by guessing around.

Regards,
Tobi

[1] https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/bugtracker/2019-November/001983.html

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec  3 17:10:43 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 17:10:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7Qyd4QWhZujD6gONFSf4f_VW+PfMA9tx0o0bzyaxmL0qQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL4RGJan-ParQR6sq=OmY_1gHPfSyzjh6rp2sHTXLwfsOQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-UvzN2mf6SraggN9oU2T3=A=sJCg5fj2+95=nT0OVgAyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFZziaviFucjVONOb3C2r-_bFBDHhYO9JpQ98mqzJUyksg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-USo=CvG6+Ytv8XwVgooTzb83hVHK1181ae-j6fAWOzQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFa=8rszOr7HMsrzUgXQZ9aJ1=mGzojM0sDUkz1wPa9+zw@mail.gmail.com>
 <0cf7f2b3-475d-2b94-7b2f-97b4ad0d9992@deganius.de>
 <CAH19H-Xqrxk8cokOEsToNViRB+O+VGxFr0o6i2qqxT39YEA4TQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Am 03.12.19 um 15:55 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:

> Just testing. Anyone got this mail and the attachment?

I see a lot of bounces (about 150 or so). Each like this:

> <adrien.p....z at gmail.com>: host
>     gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4013:c07::1a] said: 552-5.7.0 This
>     message was blocked because its content presents a potential 552-5.7.0
>     security issue. Please visit 552-5.7.0
>     https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BlockedMessage to review our 552 5.7.0
>     message content and attachment content guidelines. e17si2269383ejd.249 -
>     gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)

And so on ...

:-(

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 17:51:16 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 17:51:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
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Il giorno mar 3 dic 2019 alle ore 17:02 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 03.12.19 um 15:55 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>
> > Just testing. Anyone got this mail and the attachment?
>
> I got it.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> [x] nail here for new monitor
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>


No, I didn't receive it and it's not in the spam folder.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 18:00:49 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 18:00:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Write protected array
In-Reply-To: <20191203150837.GC3026@highrise.localdomain>
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Il giorno mar 3 dic 2019 alle ore 17:04 Tobias Boege <taboege at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

> On Tue, 03 Dec 2019, Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas wrote:
> > As I said in the  my reply to myself,
> > I have it on the original too.
> > I oversaw that, because I use the compiled version since a long time.
> > I assume something changed in Gambas itself, but what?
> >
>
> Quite possibly the introduction of read-only arrays with 3.14.
> There was a recent bug [1] about embedded arrays being read-only,
> maybe that's relevant for your case.
>
> [1]
> https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/bugtracker/2019-November/001983.html
>

Yes, it could be a bug in the new property.
See also here (*)

Regards
Gianluigi

(*)
https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?p=2131&sid=58502d4a1185eeff099c57e5aec5fcbf#p2131
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 18:06:08 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 12:06:08 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
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Message-ID: <44e3a2fc-636d-86c8-7868-e040d58e81e7@gmail.com>

I did not get it; using Gmail.

___
Lee


On 12/3/19 10:07 AM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 03.12.19 um 15:55 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> 
>> Just testing. Anyone got this mail and the attachment?
> 
> I got it.
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
> Christof Thalhofer
> 

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 18:13:46 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 18:13:46 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <f28220df-f2bc-2814-a546-9928db0a6f65@deganius.de>
References: <CAH19H-X1gmqqJiQaPwjrvENfX3r-quFm5hXdjwTh1u5BoOxr3A@mail.gmail.com>
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Il giorno mar 3 dic 2019 alle ore 18:05 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 03.12.19 um 15:55 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>
> > Just testing. Anyone got this mail and the attachment?
>
> I see a lot of bounces (about 150 or so). Each like this:
>
> > <adrien.p....z at gmail.com>: host
> >     gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4013:c07::1a] said: 552-5.7.0
> This
> >     message was blocked because its content presents a potential
> 552-5.7.0
> >     security issue. Please visit 552-5.7.0
> >     https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BlockedMessage to review our 552
> 5.7.0
> >     message content and attachment content guidelines.
> e17si2269383ejd.249 -
> >     gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)
>
> And so on ...
>
> :-(
>

Christof,
are you sure that google is not boycotting you?

:-(

Regards
Gianluigi
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From johny.provoost at skynet.be  Tue Dec  3 18:22:33 2019
From: johny.provoost at skynet.be (Johny Provoost)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 18:22:33 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Write protected array
In-Reply-To: <2dffa5b4-bf0a-3fff-5f77-ed3dd2a3b886@cd-bahia.com>
References: <ee4f6e2f-a614-c378-3fe5-bf25c2394281@cd-bahia.com>
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Op 3/12/2019 om 14:18 schreef Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas:
> As I said in the?? my reply to myself,
> I have it on the original too.
> I oversaw that, because I use the compiled version since a long time.
> I assume something changed in Gambas itself, but what?
>
> Am 2019-12-03 um 13:46 schrieb Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas:
>> Hi,
>> how can it be, I get?? the error "Write protected array" on a PC, and 
>> on the one where I programmed it, not?
>> I copied the project folder to the other PC and tried to run.
>> Before I sat ownership and mode.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Dag
>>
>>
Got the same problem since 3.14.2 with some projects
Remembered the problem from mails some while ago.
The defenition arrays? of
 ??? Public RLBallsPosition[37] As Integer
had to change to
 ??? Public RLBallsPosition As New Integer[37]
That solved my problem.

Johny

From taboege at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 21:59:09 2019
From: taboege at gmail.com (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 21:59:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Write protected array
In-Reply-To: <fe82507a-ee50-8aab-fca1-0a1f24e08f51@cd-bahia.com>
References: <ee4f6e2f-a614-c378-3fe5-bf25c2394281@cd-bahia.com>
 <2dffa5b4-bf0a-3fff-5f77-ed3dd2a3b886@cd-bahia.com>
 <20191203150837.GC3026@highrise.localdomain>
 <fe82507a-ee50-8aab-fca1-0a1f24e08f51@cd-bahia.com>
Message-ID: <20191203205909.GE3026@highrise.localdomain>

On Tue, 03 Dec 2019, Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas wrote:
> I still can't really make it, so here some source sniplets, where the error
> occurs.
> Gambas Version 3.14.2
> 
> Declaration:
> Public sortname_LOGO[9, 2] As String
> If I try? Public sortname_LOGO[9, 2] As New String
> it? makes another error here (I only have that in German: "NEW und
> eingebetteter array kann nicht kombiniert werden", I assume "NEW and
> embedded array can't be combined")
> 

Your translation is correct. It is the same error that I linked to earlier
and that Johny also recalled. There is a bug in Gambas 3.14.X where the
kind of array you use (embedded arrays) are read-only by default. This has
already been fixed on master but there was no 3.14.3 release yet.

You can work around this bug right now by turning your embedded array
declaration

  Public sortname_LOGO[9, 2] As String

into a real array

  Public sortname_LOGO As New String[9, 2]

And why are you using embedded arrays in the first place? Normal arrays
have many advantages over embedded arrays, such as:

  - they can grow and shrink dynamically,
  - their lifetime is not bound to the containing object,
  - they can be local variables.

The only virtue of embedded arrays is that they are placed compactly
inside the containing object, making them suitable to interact with
native libraries. If you are not doing that, embedded arrays should
be avoided. There is no reason to use them. Although this advice has
nothing to do with this particular bug here.

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec  3 22:48:43 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 22:48:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYyfiOQ_PVA0vWw_fJyYmYZybhSu5e3SzoqhmRnWS6kkw@mail.gmail.com>
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Am 03.12.19 um 18:13 schrieb Gianluigi:

> Christof,
> are you sure that google is not boycotting you?
> 
> :-(

No. It's boycotting you respective the mailinglist ...

I maintain the mailinglist. Google is boycotting the Gambas mailinglists
and I see that Gmail bounces mails from the mailinglist to Gmail
accounts because I receive the bounces. For one mail that Google does
not like (like your's with the attachment SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz) I
receive a lot of bounces, one for each member of the mailinglist with a
Gmail account.

I have no problem to receive your mail which contained
SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz because I have my own mailserver
(degmail.deganius.de). And if someone has a mail account at a *reliable
provider* this one would also receive *every* mail from the mailinglist.

Spam and fraud detection is expensive. Google says:

"Attachment with tar.gz and something weird in it? I'll bounce it back
and do not deliver it to my customer. If it contains a virus or not."

That's cheap.

Look. I handle with email for about 20 years for my firm and for other
firms. Email is absolutely reliable, if done right. But what Google does
makes me angry. First they say to everybody: "Come to us, you get a free
email account with plenty of space."

And then they make something *not reliable* out of email. And if you
complain about that they say: "Upload files and folders to Google Drive
[so that we can explore you]".

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1&hl=en

Fuck off, Google! They destroy email.

The only thing I can recommend to everyone here is: If you want to have
a working mailing list, use a reliable mail propvier and pay a few euro
per year for it.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 23:54:07 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 23:54:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
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Il giorno mar 3 dic 2019 alle ore 22:49 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 03.12.19 um 18:13 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
> > Christof,
> > are you sure that google is not boycotting you?
> >
> > :-(
>
> No. It's boycotting you respective the mailinglist ...
>
> I maintain the mailinglist. Google is boycotting the Gambas mailinglists
> and I see that Gmail bounces mails from the mailinglist to Gmail
> accounts because I receive the bounces. For one mail that Google does
> not like (like your's with the attachment SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz) I
> receive a lot of bounces, one for each member of the mailinglist with a
> Gmail account.
>
> I have no problem to receive your mail which contained
> SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz because I have my own mailserver
> (degmail.deganius.de). And if someone has a mail account at a *reliable
> provider* this one would also receive *every* mail from the mailinglist.
>
> Spam and fraud detection is expensive. Google says:
>
> "Attachment with tar.gz and something weird in it? I'll bounce it back
> and do not deliver it to my customer. If it contains a virus or not."
>
> That's cheap.
>
> Look. I handle with email for about 20 years for my firm and for other
> firms. Email is absolutely reliable, if done right. But what Google does
> makes me angry. First they say to everybody: "Come to us, you get a free
> email account with plenty of space."
>
> And then they make something *not reliable* out of email. And if you
> complain about that they say: "Upload files and folders to Google Drive
> [so that we can explore you]".
>
>
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1&hl=en
>
> Fuck off, Google! They destroy email.
>
> The only thing I can recommend to everyone here is: If you want to have
> a working mailing list, use a reliable mail propvier and pay a few euro
> per year for it.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>

It is not a question of cost, even though as a Genoese I appreciate the
saving. :-)
I switched to gmail because, with my old Italian provider, my mail was
bounced from gmail and since most had gmail I thought it was better to
change.
It looks like a dead end street.
Either we all change or only one does little.
I think the right thing would be to try to live with the monster. But how?

Nothing can be done with GitLab?

I had also proposed to create an official forum, a participation fee could
be decided.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 00:00:36 2019
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 01:00:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7Q+p3c-io8isZ+L0YEzttNeuGVodUibQZnw2MNUZSkR-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!
When project is run in IDE, is it possible to automatically recompile all
its Gambas made libraries, before IDE starts to run the project?
Or maybe simply support for before run scripts? That way also C libraries
could be compiled before running the project in IDE.


Jussi
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From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 00:10:11 2019
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 00:10:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries
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References: <CAFJMe7Q+p3c-io8isZ+L0YEzttNeuGVodUibQZnw2MNUZSkR-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9b4ab255-3dd1-e76d-b56f-386dc6868f10@gmail.com>

Le 04/12/2019 ? 00:00, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit?:
> Hi!
> When project is run in IDE, is it possible to automatically recompile 
> all its Gambas made libraries, before IDE starts to run the project?

The IDE does not know where are the sources of the library your project 
depends on. It sees only the *.gambas executable located in a standard 
path in your home directory.

So it cannot recompile it automatically.

> Or maybe simply support for before run scripts? That way also C 
> libraries could be compiled before running the project in IDE.
> 

This is something else. I was thinking of providing many hooks in the 
IDE for custom scripts, some sort of extensions as external Gambas 
project, but never had the time to do it. Maybe something to do for 3.15?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 00:15:43 2019
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 01:15:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries
In-Reply-To: <9b4ab255-3dd1-e76d-b56f-386dc6868f10@gmail.com>
References: <CAFJMe7Q+p3c-io8isZ+L0YEzttNeuGVodUibQZnw2MNUZSkR-Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFJMe7TWXnXg22wVJd7nxAQVE_i6WgKd7vZtkjga2HmDbOpB3w@mail.gmail.com>

Excellent!

Jussi

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 1:10 AM Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 04/12/2019 ? 00:00, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit :
> > Hi!
> > When project is run in IDE, is it possible to automatically recompile
> > all its Gambas made libraries, before IDE starts to run the project?
>
> The IDE does not know where are the sources of the library your project
> depends on. It sees only the *.gambas executable located in a standard
> path in your home directory.
>
> So it cannot recompile it automatically.
>
> > Or maybe simply support for before run scripts? That way also C
> > libraries could be compiled before running the project in IDE.
> >
>
> This is something else. I was thinking of providing many hooks in the
> IDE for custom scripts, some sort of extensions as external Gambas
> project, but never had the time to do it. Maybe something to do for 3.15?
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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From cedron at exede.net  Wed Dec  4 04:58:44 2019
From: cedron at exede.net (Cedron Dawg)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 22:58:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries
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References: <CAFJMe7Q+p3c-io8isZ+L0YEzttNeuGVodUibQZnw2MNUZSkR-Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Jussi,

Maybe you could expand upon this:  

https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=688

I've actually improved upon it a little bit, but I'd have to go look for that if you are interested.

Ced

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jussi Lahtinen" <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
To: "Beno?t Minisini" <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
Cc: "user" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 6:15:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries

Excellent! 

Jussi 

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 1:10 AM Beno?t Minisini < [ mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com | g4mba5 at gmail.com ] > wrote: 


Le 04/12/2019 ? 00:00, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit : 
> Hi! 
> When project is run in IDE, is it possible to automatically recompile 
> all its Gambas made libraries, before IDE starts to run the project? 

The IDE does not know where are the sources of the library your project 
depends on. It sees only the *.gambas executable located in a standard 
path in your home directory. 

So it cannot recompile it automatically. 

> Or maybe simply support for before run scripts? That way also C 
> libraries could be compiled before running the project in IDE. 
> 

This is something else. I was thinking of providing many hooks in the 
IDE for custom scripts, some sort of extensions as external Gambas 
project, but never had the time to do it. Maybe something to do for 3.15? 

-- 
Beno?t Minisini 





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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 10:31:43 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:31:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>

If you have received my email, you can kindly reply.

Thanks
Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Dec  4 10:58:48 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:58:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>

Am 04.12.19 um 10:31 schrieb Gianluigi:
> If you have received my email, you can kindly reply.

Please not in the mailinglist.

Everybody receives your mail to the mailinglist except when you add an
attachment with a gambas project in it and the ending tar.gz.

Then no member with a Gmail account receives it.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 11:08:57 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:08:57 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
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References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Il giorno mer 4 dic 2019 alle ore 10:59 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 04.12.19 um 10:31 schrieb Gianluigi:
> > If you have received my email, you can kindly reply.
>
> Please not in the mailinglist.
>
> Everybody receives your mail to the mailinglist except when you add an
> attachment with a gambas project in it and the ending tar.gz.
>
> Then no member with a Gmail account receives it.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>


Excuse Christof, but it seems that this is not the case.
For example here (*) and I have not attached anything.

Regards
Gianluigi

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Dec  4 11:23:52 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:23:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFawKRQAMFrW38X5PQ3-MZwn3X7+nDu8i1h+WExL3BOFFw@mail.gmail.com>
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Am 04.12.19 um 11:08 schrieb Gianluigi:

> Excuse Christof, but it seems that this is not the case.
> For example here (*) and I have not attached anything.

> (*) https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2019-December/068234.html

I received it. Why do you think that it was not delivered correctly? It
seems that noone answered ...

I didn't see any bounces from that mail. As far I can see now it went
through without problems.

If a mail is rejected by mailservers mailman sends me the bounces. I got
no single bounce from that mail.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Wed Dec  4 11:43:16 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:43:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
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Dear Gianluigi,

Am 03.12.19 um 23:54 schrieb Gianluigi:

> It is not a question of cost, even though as a Genoese I appreciate the
> saving. :-)

:-)

> I switched to gmail because, with my old Italian provider, my mail was
> bounced from gmail and since most had gmail I thought it was better to
> change.

So you switched over to a provider that destroyes mail because it
destroyes mail?

> It looks like a dead end street.

Mail is a free communication protocol. The big ones want to destroy it
because they want to lock the users in their wallet gardens. Every free
protocol with free servers which talk to each other they don't like.

But it's in our responsibility. If we give up the free protocols and
services we lock our communication into the jails of GAFA (Google,
Apple, Facebook and Amazon). And there we are fucked up.

> Either we all change or only one does little.
> I think the right thing would be to try to live with the monster. But how?

We should demand that Google does mail correct. There are at minimum
european authorities which should be informed about that case. Maybe I
ask the Hostsharing people. The lawyers there occassionally do fights
against majors like Deutsche Telekom and others. They can and will talk
to the antitrust authorities.

> Nothing can be done with GitLab?

To the next wallet garden?

> I had also proposed to create an official forum, a participation fee
> could be decided.

A forum is nice but mailinglists are a lot better, more open ...

Mail is an open protocol, can be handled with lots of software and
different machines, a forum is only a special piece of software. If the
development stops it is gone.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 13:21:52 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 13:21:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
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Il giorno mer 4 dic 2019 alle ore 11:44 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

>
> So you switched over to a provider that destroyes mail because it
> destroyes mail?
>

at the time it seemed like a smart move :-(
Thank you very much for the answers

Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 13:28:21 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 13:28:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
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Il giorno mer 4 dic 2019 alle ore 11:24 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 04.12.19 um 11:08 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
> > Excuse Christof, but it seems that this is not the case.
> > For example here (*) and I have not attached anything.
>
> > (*)
> https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2019-December/068234.html
>
> I received it. Why do you think that it was not delivered correctly? It
> seems that noone answered ...
>
> I didn't see any bounces from that mail. As far I can see now it went
> through without problems.
>
> If a mail is rejected by mailservers mailman sends me the bounces. I got
> no single bounce from that mail.
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>

So I was just ignored by the naughty Tobias :-)

Regards
Gianluigi
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 14:16:03 2019
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 14:16:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Decimal values on a SpinBox
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I cant see where the security issue is... They don't say tarball are
blocked and there is no file extension in gambas source file that look like
a forbiden one... It's weird. Normally our archives must be accepted. There
is certainly a bug in the google filters ... But I think the cost to repare
it is too high for a so few use.

Maybe an IDE internal mail manager connected to another account than
gmail.. could be my way.

Well it's not Time for that I return finish my scanning tool :-P
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 14:30:04 2019
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 15:30:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries
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That doesn't work for Gambas libraries (at least in my case), because once
you execute the code to compile them, they are already loaded to memory.


Jussi

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:19 AM Cedron Dawg <cedron at exede.net> wrote:

> Jussi,
>
> Maybe you could expand upon this:
>
> https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=688
>
> I've actually improved upon it a little bit, but I'd have to go look for
> that if you are interested.
>
> Ced
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jussi Lahtinen" <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
> To: "Beno?t Minisini" <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "user" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 6:15:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries
>
> Excellent!
>
> Jussi
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 1:10 AM Beno?t Minisini < [ mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com
> | g4mba5 at gmail.com ] > wrote:
>
>
> Le 04/12/2019 ? 00:00, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit :
> > Hi!
> > When project is run in IDE, is it possible to automatically recompile
> > all its Gambas made libraries, before IDE starts to run the project?
>
> The IDE does not know where are the sources of the library your project
> depends on. It sees only the *.gambas executable located in a standard
> path in your home directory.
>
> So it cannot recompile it automatically.
>
> > Or maybe simply support for before run scripts? That way also C
> > libraries could be compiled before running the project in IDE.
> >
>
> This is something else. I was thinking of providing many hooks in the
> IDE for custom scripts, some sort of extensions as external Gambas
> project, but never had the time to do it. Maybe something to do for 3.15?
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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From gambas at cd-bahia.com  Wed Dec  4 15:33:06 2019
From: gambas at cd-bahia.com (Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 15:33:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tab in combobox
Message-ID: <173a55ad-4777-3b71-1a0f-df172bb6bbfc@cd-bahia.com>

Hi,
when I make comboboxes, and want to use the keyboard to get to the next 
field, usually the tab-key is appropriate.
In a combobox the text only get marked, and the cursor remains in the field.
Is this normal, or is another key needed?
Thanks in advance,
Dag

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 15:56:45 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 15:56:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tab in combobox
In-Reply-To: <173a55ad-4777-3b71-1a0f-df172bb6bbfc@cd-bahia.com>
References: <173a55ad-4777-3b71-1a0f-df172bb6bbfc@cd-bahia.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFZcRE6JeGCHTuudf9c5jsQCibmmkurtEkwQ+_ZQ0E0CYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno mer 4 dic 2019 alle ore 15:34 Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas
<gambas at cd-bahia.com> ha scritto:

> Hi,
> when I make comboboxes, and want to use the keyboard to get to the next
> field, usually the tab-key is appropriate.
> In a combobox the text only get marked, and the cursor remains in the
> field.
> Is this normal, or is another key needed?
> Thanks in advance,
> Dag
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>

Tab is only for next control
Key Up an Key Down to next and previous item

Ctrl+A = Select all combo item text
Ctrl+Z = Undo
Ctrl+Shift+Z = Redo
ctrl+X (C or V) for cut, copy or paste.

Inform me if you received this email

Regards
Gianluigi
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From charlie at cogier.com  Wed Dec  4 16:34:51 2019
From: charlie at cogier.com (Charlie Ogier)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 15:34:51 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tab in combobox
In-Reply-To: <173a55ad-4777-3b71-1a0f-df172bb6bbfc@cd-bahia.com>
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Hi Dag,

This could be a bug as using [Shift]+[Tab] works fine

Charlie

On 04/12/2019 14:33, Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas wrote:
> Hi,
> when I make comboboxes, and want to use the keyboard to get to the 
> next field, usually the tab-key is appropriate.
> In a combobox the text only get marked, and the cursor remains in the 
> field.
> Is this normal, or is another key needed?
> Thanks in advance,
> Dag
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----


From charlie at cogier.com  Wed Dec  4 16:47:04 2019
From: charlie at cogier.com (Charlie Ogier)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 15:47:04 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tab in combobox
In-Reply-To: <173a55ad-4777-3b71-1a0f-df172bb6bbfc@cd-bahia.com>
References: <173a55ad-4777-3b71-1a0f-df172bb6bbfc@cd-bahia.com>
Message-ID: <2f80a98a-3ffe-f6e1-253b-e9b97e3412e3@cogier.com>

Hi Dag,

If you use 'gb.gui.qt' and not 'gb.gui' then it works as expected.

Charlie

On 04/12/2019 14:33, Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas wrote:
> Hi,
> when I make comboboxes, and want to use the keyboard to get to the 
> next field, usually the tab-key is appropriate.
> In a combobox the text only get marked, and the cursor remains in the 
> field.
> Is this normal, or is another key needed?
> Thanks in advance,
> Dag
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----


From cedron at exede.net  Wed Dec  4 17:12:11 2019
From: cedron at exede.net (Cedron Dawg)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:12:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries
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Yes, it would require a restart of Gambas.  Is that too high a price?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jussi Lahtinen" <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
To: "user" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 8:30:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries

That doesn't work for Gambas libraries (at least in my case), because once you execute the code to compile them, they are already loaded to memory. 


Jussi 

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:19 AM Cedron Dawg < [ mailto:cedron at exede.ne

From gbWilly at protonmail.com  Wed Dec  4 17:18:18 2019
From: gbWilly at protonmail.com (gbWilly)
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 16:18:18 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Just for interest, size of Gambas projects?
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7QVj3BDFe0mrfLkXYdTTFsxKr2HpPTkrZVC-nB+kN8suQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFJMe7Rb8y_bdJdXBPJWvahDt4va4iVjkuJ+jorzYKPwumkk3g@mail.gmail.com>
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Mine is a librray of 49421 lines of code.

gbWilly

Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.

??????? Original Message ???????
On Sunday, December 1, 2019 3:16 PM, Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, it's not that good measure. Just for interest, not for competition.
> Generally less code is better, with obvious exceptions like performance critical algorithms and readability.
>
> BTW, look at lines in Linux kernel.
>
> Jussi
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 11:03 AM Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Followed the rest of this conversation. But what I find is interesting
>> from my point of view is that the "biggest" single project in the horse
>> auctions system was about 3000 lines of code.
>>
>> But when I turned the source code over to the shareholders this year the
>> total size of the source was over 300GB. This, of course, included a
>> truck load of documentation. However, the entire system involved
>> (guessing here ..) 50 or so UI projects and about 80 libraries and
>> components.
>>
>> I guess that I just "modularise" a lot! :-) :-( ;-!
>>
>> b
>>
>> On 28/11/19 11:47 pm, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>>> As the topic says, what is your biggest Gambas project?
>>> I'm interested in how big projects Gambas is used.
>>>
>>> IDE --> Project properties --> Statistics --> Lines of code
>>>
>>> I know lines of code is quite bad metric, but it gives some picture.
>>> My typical project is very small, but my biggest is 52 316 lines.
>>>
>>> IDE is about 82 000 lines.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jussi
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 18:22:31 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 12:22:31 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 12/4/19 4:58 AM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 04.12.19 um 10:31 schrieb Gianluigi:
>> If you have received my email, you can kindly reply.
> 
> Please not in the mailinglist.
> 
> Everybody receives your mail to the mailinglist except when you add an
> attachment with a gambas project in it and the ending tar.gz.
> 
> Then no member with a Gmail account receives it.
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
> Christof Thalhofer
> 

That cannot be the absolute case, Christof.

It is true that I did not receive Gianluigi's mail with SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz attached. However, I did receive Charlie's Dec 1 
mail which contained two tar.gz files: SmoothMarquee.tar.gz and SimpleMarquee.tar.gz.

Google's list of blocked file types [0] is only exemplary. It is not necessarily an exhaustive list.

I see a glaring difference between the files sent by Gianluigi and Charlie. The file sent by Gianluigi contains HTML files.


___
Lee

[0] https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1&hl=en

From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 18:56:03 2019
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 19:56:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries
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I could as well click on compile and then restart. Why to see the trouble
to get half way through?


Jussi

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:14 PM Cedron Dawg <cedron at exede.net> wrote:

> Yes, it would require a restart of Gambas.  Is that too high a price?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jussi Lahtinen" <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
> To: "user" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 8:30:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries
>
> That doesn't work for Gambas libraries (at least in my case), because once
> you execute the code to compile them, they are already loaded to memory.
>
>
> Jussi
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:19 AM Cedron Dawg < [ mailto:cedron at exede.ne
>
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 18:57:42 2019
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 19:57:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries
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The idea was to make everything automatic, so that I wont run into invalid
test runs, because I forgot to do something.


Jussi

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 7:56 PM Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I could as well click on compile and then restart. Why to see the trouble
> to get half way through?
>
>
> Jussi
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:14 PM Cedron Dawg <cedron at exede.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, it would require a restart of Gambas.  Is that too high a price?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jussi Lahtinen" <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
>> To: "user" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 8:30:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas libraries
>>
>> That doesn't work for Gambas libraries (at least in my case), because
>> once you execute the code to compile them, they are already loaded to
>> memory.
>>
>>
>> Jussi
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:19 AM Cedron Dawg < [ mailto:cedron at exede.ne
>>
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From gambas at cd-bahia.com  Wed Dec  4 20:53:48 2019
From: gambas at cd-bahia.com (Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 20:53:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tab in combobox
In-Reply-To: <173a55ad-4777-3b71-1a0f-df172bb6bbfc@cd-bahia.com>
References: <173a55ad-4777-3b71-1a0f-df172bb6bbfc@cd-bahia.com>
Message-ID: <2ed3cd71-c1ed-8c9b-68aa-5d7b244f0fa0@cd-bahia.com>

Hi again,
sorry, up and down only scroll throgh the combobox

Am 2019-12-04 um 15:33 schrieb Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas:
> Hi,
> when I make comboboxes, and want to use the keyboard to get to the 
> next field, usually the tab-key is appropriate.
> In a combobox the text only get marked, and the cursor remains in the 
> field.
> Is this normal, or is another key needed?
> Thanks in advance,
> Dag
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>


From lapisdecor at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 21:19:24 2019
From: lapisdecor at gmail.com (Luis Louro)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 20:19:24 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAH19H-VcL=L8K5Uq-tKB8CKNoDzi_FWTqgCKt9QcYkW=wz4qgg@mail.gmail.com>

Google is probably using machine learning to filter spam. I think I'm
receiving all email since I marked it as " it's not spam" on the spam
folder. I'm not sure about tar.gz but could the original mail have a
compiled file and the others not?

A quarta, 4/12/2019, 17:23, T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> On 12/4/19 4:58 AM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> > Am 04.12.19 um 10:31 schrieb Gianluigi:
> >> If you have received my email, you can kindly reply.
> >
> > Please not in the mailinglist.
> >
> > Everybody receives your mail to the mailinglist except when you add an
> > attachment with a gambas project in it and the ending tar.gz.
> >
> > Then no member with a Gmail account receives it.
> >
> > Alles Gute
> >
> > Christof Thalhofer
> >
>
> That cannot be the absolute case, Christof.
>
> It is true that I did not receive Gianluigi's mail with
> SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz attached. However, I did receive Charlie's Dec 1
> mail which contained two tar.gz files: SmoothMarquee.tar.gz and
> SimpleMarquee.tar.gz.
>
> Google's list of blocked file types [0] is only exemplary. It is not
> necessarily an exhaustive list.
>
> I see a glaring difference between the files sent by Gianluigi and
> Charlie. The file sent by Gianluigi contains HTML files.
>
>
> ___
> Lee
>
> [0]
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1&hl=en
>
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Wed Dec  4 23:40:14 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 23:40:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Tab in combobox
In-Reply-To: <2ed3cd71-c1ed-8c9b-68aa-5d7b244f0fa0@cd-bahia.com>
References: <173a55ad-4777-3b71-1a0f-df172bb6bbfc@cd-bahia.com>
 <2ed3cd71-c1ed-8c9b-68aa-5d7b244f0fa0@cd-bahia.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYkUHn7p3rUpioufeKiBgJjuy6mTBZBbdJumCh=1br9yQ@mail.gmail.com>

I don't understand, are you talking about a normal ComboBox or another
control?
Can you attach an example?

Regards
Gianluigi

Il giorno mer 4 dic 2019 alle ore 20:54 Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas
<gambas at cd-bahia.com> ha scritto:

> Hi again,
> sorry, up and down only scroll throgh the combobox
>
> Am 2019-12-04 um 15:33 schrieb Dag Jarle Nerland Johansen - Gambas:
> > Hi,
> > when I make comboboxes, and want to use the keyboard to get to the
> > next field, usually the tab-key is appropriate.
> > In a combobox the text only get marked, and the cursor remains in the
> > field.
> > Is this normal, or is another key needed?
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Dag
> >
> > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> >
>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>
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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 00:23:36 2019
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 09:53:36 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
 <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <270510e4-3d0e-0506-d697-73698cb6c586@gmail.com>

Weird!

I did NOT receive Charlies post until I searched through the junk mail. 
It was there complete with the attachments.

I HAVE received every other post relating to this issue.

b

On 5/12/19 3:52 am, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> On 12/4/19 4:58 AM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
>> Am 04.12.19 um 10:31 schrieb Gianluigi:
>>> If you have received my email, you can kindly reply.
>>
>> Please not in the mailinglist.
>>
>> Everybody receives your mail to the mailinglist except when you add an
>> attachment with a gambas project in it and the ending tar.gz.
>>
>> Then no member with a Gmail account receives it.
>>
>> Alles Gute
>>
>> Christof Thalhofer
>>
> 
> That cannot be the absolute case, Christof.
> 
> It is true that I did not receive Gianluigi's mail with 
> SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz attached. However, I did receive Charlie's Dec 1 
> mail which contained two tar.gz files: SmoothMarquee.tar.gz and 
> SimpleMarquee.tar.gz.
> 
> Google's list of blocked file types [0] is only exemplary. It is not 
> necessarily an exhaustive list.
> 
> I see a glaring difference between the files sent by Gianluigi and 
> Charlie. The file sent by Gianluigi contains HTML files.
> 
> 
> ___
> Lee
> 
> [0] 
> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1&hl=en 
> 
> 
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 01:14:44 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 19:14:44 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <CAH19H-VcL=L8K5Uq-tKB8CKNoDzi_FWTqgCKt9QcYkW=wz4qgg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
 <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-VcL=L8K5Uq-tKB8CKNoDzi_FWTqgCKt9QcYkW=wz4qgg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <743da1a3-1f2a-c36c-497b-662138c9f0a1@gmail.com>

Luis,

Your question prompted me to take another look at the comparison between the archive files of Charlie verses the file from 
Gianluigi. I realize now that what I stated earlier is incorrect. The file sent by Gianluigi does NOT contain HTML files. One of 
Charlie's does. (Apparently I need new glasses.) So, back to square one.

I don't see much difference between the uncompressed projects, or at least nothing that could have caused Gianluigi's to bounce. 
Charlie's have .gitignore files and binary FMAIN, and Gianluigi's has a .component file.

I have no clue at present what might have puckered up Google's butt.


___
Lee


On 12/4/19 3:19 PM, Luis Louro wrote:
> Google is probably using machine learning to filter spam. I think I'm receiving all email since I marked it as " it's not spam" 
> on the spam folder. I'm not sure about tar.gz but could the original mail have a compiled file and the others not?
> 
> A quarta, 4/12/2019, 17:23, T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com <mailto:t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>> escreveu:
> 
>     On 12/4/19 4:58 AM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
>      > Am 04.12.19 um 10:31 schrieb Gianluigi:
>      >> If you have received my email, you can kindly reply.
>      >
>      > Please not in the mailinglist.
>      >
>      > Everybody receives your mail to the mailinglist except when you add an
>      > attachment with a gambas project in it and the ending tar.gz.
>      >
>      > Then no member with a Gmail account receives it.
>      >
>      > Alles Gute
>      >
>      > Christof Thalhofer
>      >
> 
>     That cannot be the absolute case, Christof.
> 
>     It is true that I did not receive Gianluigi's mail with SpinFloat-0.0.1.tar.gz attached. However, I did receive Charlie's Dec 1
>     mail which contained two tar.gz files: SmoothMarquee.tar.gz and SimpleMarquee.tar.gz.
> 
>     Google's list of blocked file types [0] is only exemplary. It is not necessarily an exhaustive list.
> 
>     I see a glaring difference between the files sent by Gianluigi and Charlie. The file sent by Gianluigi contains HTML files.
> 
> 
>     ___
>     Lee
> 
>     [0] https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637109081706241547-779792091&rd=1&hl=en
> 
>     ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> 

From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 03:47:13 2019
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 04:47:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] QPainter::begin: Painter already active
In-Reply-To: <8ffda199-0a55-885f-7bcb-276511d6112a@gmail.com>
References: <CAFJMe7QhM+61BxxpvT8qYNV_rRB4JoNUGAWNVe9DwqGeTe4OhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1621694.IkII3ccqVg@lordh-pc> <8ffda199-0a55-885f-7bcb-276511d6112a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7TP_gQFQ+1_4L06yTFm-7mJm_WuThpqDaB9xmD3Zw-g5w@mail.gmail.com>

I just compiled the sources today and I still get the warning. See attached
project.

Jussi

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:41 AM Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 21/11/2019 ? 13:50, Laurent Carlier a ?crit :
> > Le jeudi 21 novembre 2019, 02:38:28 CET Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit :
> >> I have a lot of warnings: QPainter::begin: Painter already active
> >> Is that warning necessary? I'm not using draw.begin, inside of _draw
> event.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jussi
> >
> > Whet's the gambas version? I fixed one of this warning in version 3.14.2
> >
> > See
> > https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/commit/
> > 07f35841a31be78a1af6996c3ece267a9b75dca4
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> >
>
> The fix is actually not in Gambas 3.14.2. It will be in the next release.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 05:45:03 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 23:45:03 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] QPainter::begin: Painter already active
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7TP_gQFQ+1_4L06yTFm-7mJm_WuThpqDaB9xmD3Zw-g5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFJMe7QhM+61BxxpvT8qYNV_rRB4JoNUGAWNVe9DwqGeTe4OhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1621694.IkII3ccqVg@lordh-pc>
 <8ffda199-0a55-885f-7bcb-276511d6112a@gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7TP_gQFQ+1_4L06yTFm-7mJm_WuThpqDaB9xmD3Zw-g5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0ddbde52-28e5-f2ef-278c-1ed39c01bdb2@gmail.com>

I get NO error with v3.14.2.


___
Lee

P.S. The .tar.gz file passed through Gmail.


On 12/4/19 9:47 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> I just compiled the sources today and I still get the warning. See attached project.
> 
> Jussi
> 
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:41 AM Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Le 21/11/2019 ? 13:50, Laurent Carlier a ?crit?:
>      > Le jeudi 21 novembre 2019, 02:38:28 CET Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit :
>      >> I have a lot of warnings: QPainter::begin: Painter already active
>      >> Is that warning necessary? I'm not using draw.begin, inside of _draw event.
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Jussi
>      >
>      > Whet's the gambas version? I fixed one of this warning in version 3.14.2
>      >
>      > See
>      > https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/commit/
>      > 07f35841a31be78a1af6996c3ece267a9b75dca4
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>      >
> 
>     The fix is actually not in Gambas 3.14.2. It will be in the next release.
> 
>     -- 
>     Beno?t Minisini
> 
>     ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> 

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 09:51:29 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 09:51:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] QPainter::begin: Painter already active
In-Reply-To: <0ddbde52-28e5-f2ef-278c-1ed39c01bdb2@gmail.com>
References: <CAFJMe7QhM+61BxxpvT8qYNV_rRB4JoNUGAWNVe9DwqGeTe4OhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1621694.IkII3ccqVg@lordh-pc> <8ffda199-0a55-885f-7bcb-276511d6112a@gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7TP_gQFQ+1_4L06yTFm-7mJm_WuThpqDaB9xmD3Zw-g5w@mail.gmail.com>
 <0ddbde52-28e5-f2ef-278c-1ed39c01bdb2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFbXNnZKKKoOtxvE_HyzwFWr=aVf4Gi-1shoVV0+GWGV1Q@mail.gmail.com>

In console I get this:
QPainter::begin: Painter already active

[System]
Gambas=3.14.90 328e86d (master)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=4.15.0-72-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS
Desktop=UBUNTU:GNOME
Theme=Fusion
Language=it_IT.UTF-8
Memory=15969M

Regards
Gianluigi

P.S. The .tar.gz file passed through Gmail.

Il giorno gio 5 dic 2019 alle ore 05:46 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> I get NO error with v3.14.2.
>
>
> ___
> Lee
>
> P.S. The .tar.gz file passed through Gmail.
>
>
> On 12/4/19 9:47 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> > I just compiled the sources today and I still get the warning. See
> attached project.
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:41 AM Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com
> <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Le 21/11/2019 ? 13:50, Laurent Carlier a ?crit :
> >      > Le jeudi 21 novembre 2019, 02:38:28 CET Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit :
> >      >> I have a lot of warnings: QPainter::begin: Painter already active
> >      >> Is that warning necessary? I'm not using draw.begin, inside of
> _draw event.
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >> Jussi
> >      >
> >      > Whet's the gambas version? I fixed one of this warning in version
> 3.14.2
> >      >
> >      > See
> >      > https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/commit/
> >      > 07f35841a31be78a1af6996c3ece267a9b75dca4
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by
> https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> >      >
> >
> >     The fix is actually not in Gambas 3.14.2. It will be in the next
> release.
> >
> >     --
> >     Beno?t Minisini
> >
> >     ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net
> ]----
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> >
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 14:49:39 2019
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 15:49:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] QPainter::begin: Painter already active
In-Reply-To: <0ddbde52-28e5-f2ef-278c-1ed39c01bdb2@gmail.com>
References: <CAFJMe7QhM+61BxxpvT8qYNV_rRB4JoNUGAWNVe9DwqGeTe4OhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1621694.IkII3ccqVg@lordh-pc> <8ffda199-0a55-885f-7bcb-276511d6112a@gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7TP_gQFQ+1_4L06yTFm-7mJm_WuThpqDaB9xmD3Zw-g5w@mail.gmail.com>
 <0ddbde52-28e5-f2ef-278c-1ed39c01bdb2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7QSGmcVPpWeNzOAaAxNm3SBmRzMBWyQdUj4vwQpF0seiA@mail.gmail.com>

Not error, but warning in the console. Did you check that?

PS. Yes, as usual.


Jussi

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 6:46 AM T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I get NO error with v3.14.2.
>
>
> ___
> Lee
>
> P.S. The .tar.gz file passed through Gmail.
>
>
> On 12/4/19 9:47 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> > I just compiled the sources today and I still get the warning. See
> attached project.
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:41 AM Beno?t Minisini <g4mba5 at gmail.com
> <mailto:g4mba5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Le 21/11/2019 ? 13:50, Laurent Carlier a ?crit :
> >      > Le jeudi 21 novembre 2019, 02:38:28 CET Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit :
> >      >> I have a lot of warnings: QPainter::begin: Painter already active
> >      >> Is that warning necessary? I'm not using draw.begin, inside of
> _draw event.
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >> Jussi
> >      >
> >      > Whet's the gambas version? I fixed one of this warning in version
> 3.14.2
> >      >
> >      > See
> >      > https://gitlab.com/gambas/gambas/commit/
> >      > 07f35841a31be78a1af6996c3ece267a9b75dca4
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by
> https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> >      >
> >
> >     The fix is actually not in Gambas 3.14.2. It will be in the next
> release.
> >
> >     --
> >     Beno?t Minisini
> >
> >     ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net
> ]----
> >
> >
> >
> > ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> >
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 15:56:24 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 09:56:24 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] QPainter::begin: Painter already active
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7QSGmcVPpWeNzOAaAxNm3SBmRzMBWyQdUj4vwQpF0seiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFJMe7QhM+61BxxpvT8qYNV_rRB4JoNUGAWNVe9DwqGeTe4OhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1621694.IkII3ccqVg@lordh-pc>
 <8ffda199-0a55-885f-7bcb-276511d6112a@gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7TP_gQFQ+1_4L06yTFm-7mJm_WuThpqDaB9xmD3Zw-g5w@mail.gmail.com>
 <0ddbde52-28e5-f2ef-278c-1ed39c01bdb2@gmail.com>
 <CAFJMe7QSGmcVPpWeNzOAaAxNm3SBmRzMBWyQdUj4vwQpF0seiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6abc1e8b-2fbb-841c-a31b-b22f9691e2fc@gmail.com>

I did not check that previously.

Just now, no warning in the IDE console. I created an executable and ran it from the command line in a real console. No warning.


___
Lee


On 12/5/19 8:49 AM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> Not error, but warning in the console. Did you check that?
> 
> PS. Yes, as usual.
> 
> 
> Jussi
> 
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 6:46 AM T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com <mailto:t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     I get NO error with v3.14.2.
> 
> 
>     ___
>     Lee
> 
>     P.S. The .tar.gz file passed through Gmail.
> 

From ivanwms64 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  5 18:09:35 2019
From: ivanwms64 at yahoo.com (Ivan Williams)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 17:09:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Gambas-user] using smtp to send mail
References: <2031659168.3522971.1575565775537.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2031659168.3522971.1575565775537@mail.yahoo.com>


Greetings,
I am trying to incorporate a routine within my program to send a email using gmail but I m receiving a 502 error when activating the routine.???
? Dim Email As New SmtpClient
? Email.Host = "smtp.gmail.com"? Email.User = "joecool at gmail.com"? Email.Password = "snoopy"
? Email.From = "joecool at gmail.com"? Email.To.Add("woodstock at yahoo.com")
? Email.Subject = "Great Pumpkin"? Email.Body = "Pumpkin Patch"

I am getting a 502 when trying to send the email - unable to authenticate error -? can anyone assist or point me in the right direction.??
Thank You



Ivan ?? \~/


?

I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
Without ever having felt sorry for itself.
-- D.H. Lawrence





http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html


Linux - Live Free or Die.


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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 19:08:55 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 13:08:55 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] using smtp to send mail
In-Reply-To: <2031659168.3522971.1575565775537@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2031659168.3522971.1575565775537.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2031659168.3522971.1575565775537@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1197524a-7241-6a19-86f7-181b0696349a@gmail.com>

Gmail blocks access from what they call "unsecure applications" by default, if I recall correctly. You may need to log in to 
your Gmail account and specifically allow connections from unsecure apps.


___
Lee


On 12/5/19 12:09 PM, Ivan Williams via User wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I am trying to incorporate a routine within my program to send a email using gmail but I m receiving a 502 error when activating 
> the routine.
> 
>  ? Dim Email As New SmtpClient
> 
>  ? Email.Host = "smtp.gmail.com"
>  ? Email.User = "joecool at gmail.com"
>  ? Email.Password = "snoopy"
> 
>  ? Email.From = "joecool at gmail.com"
>  ? Email.To.Add("woodstock at yahoo.com")
> 
>  ? Email.Subject = "Great Pumpkin"
>  ? Email.Body = "Pumpkin Patch"
> 
> 
> I am getting a 502 when trying to send the email - unable to authenticate error -? can anyone assist or point me in the right 
> direction.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Ivan ?? \~/
> 
> I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
> A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
> Without ever having felt sorry for itself.
> -- D.H. Lawrence
> 
> 
> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
> 
> Linux - Live Free or Die.
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
> 

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 19:46:19 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 13:46:19 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] using smtp to send mail
In-Reply-To: <1197524a-7241-6a19-86f7-181b0696349a@gmail.com>
References: <2031659168.3522971.1575565775537.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2031659168.3522971.1575565775537@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1197524a-7241-6a19-86f7-181b0696349a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16db5c9b-e209-f2a7-0c4b-5eff0e99bba6@gmail.com>

Also, I don't see your code setting the port, encryption, or authentication method. The following works for me:
   Email.Port = 465
   Email.Authentication = SmtpClient.Plain
   Email.Encrypt = Net.SSL


___
Lee


On 12/5/19 1:08 PM, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> Gmail blocks access from what they call "unsecure applications" by default, if I recall correctly. You may need to log in to 
> your Gmail account and specifically allow connections from unsecure apps.
> 
> 
> ___
> Lee
> 
> 
> On 12/5/19 12:09 PM, Ivan Williams via User wrote:
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I am trying to incorporate a routine within my program to send a email using gmail but I m receiving a 502 error when 
>> activating the routine.
>>
>> ?? Dim Email As New SmtpClient
>>
>> ?? Email.Host = "smtp.gmail.com"
>> ?? Email.User = "joecool at gmail.com"
>> ?? Email.Password = "snoopy"
>>
>> ?? Email.From = "joecool at gmail.com"
>> ?? Email.To.Add("woodstock at yahoo.com")
>>
>> ?? Email.Subject = "Great Pumpkin"
>> ?? Email.Body = "Pumpkin Patch"
>>
>>
>> I am getting a 502 when trying to send the email - unable to authenticate error -? can anyone assist or point me in the right 
>> direction.
>>
>> Thank You
>>
>> Ivan ?? \~/
>>
>> I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
>> A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
>> Without ever having felt sorry for itself.
>> -- D.H. Lawrence
>>
>>
>> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
>>
>> Linux - Live Free or Die.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
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From ivanwms64 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  5 20:57:59 2019
From: ivanwms64 at yahoo.com (Ivan Williams)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 19:57:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Gambas-user] using smtp to send mail
References: <990501155.9411987.1575575879292.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <990501155.9411987.1575575879292@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks!!!
This worked - created a new acct for sending email - went to security and checked the allow 3rd party access sign on and I am in like Flynn.
Thank You again


>> Also, I don't see your code setting the port, encryption, or authentication method. The following works for me:
>>? ?Email.Port = 465
>>? ?Email.Authentication = SmtpClient.Plain
>>? ?Email.Encrypt = Net.SSL




?

Ivan ?? \~/


?

I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
Without ever having felt sorry for itself.
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From ivanwms64 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  5 21:49:42 2019
From: ivanwms64 at yahoo.com (Ivan Williams)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 20:49:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Gambas-user] smtp attachments/body in email
References: <213593538.3599079.1575578982403.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <213593538.3599079.1575578982403@mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings once more,
I am successfully able to send email but I cannot successfully attach the file to the email.? I would like to put the text of the file within the body of the email but when I do so the filename is the only thing in the body of the email and when I attempt to attach the file I get the name of the file witht he path attached.
?
? Email.Body = "/media/ShortBox/Stats/pmail.txt"
? Email.Add("string", "text/plain", "/media/ShortBox/Stats/pmail.txt")

? I have tried - string, stream, text but I still do not receive the file contents in the email body or as a attachment.? The file does have chr$(10) & chr$(13) to force line breaks and carriage returns in order to format the text.
? Can the file be forced into the email body - maximum 30 lines of text - 2400 chars?


Ivan ?? \~/


?

I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
Without ever having felt sorry for itself.
-- D.H. Lawrence





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From ivanwms64 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  5 22:25:27 2019
From: ivanwms64 at yahoo.com (Ivan Williams)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 21:25:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Resolved: how to add attachment and include in file
 body
References: <897863616.9452914.1575581127948.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <897863616.9452914.1575581127948@mail.yahoo.com>

Figured out how to attach the file -? for future reference in case anyone else has the issues I had today...
Ivan

? Dim Email As New SmtpClient? Dim ftext As String??? ftext = File.load("/media/ShortBox/Stats/pmail.txt")??? Email.Host = "smtp.gmail.com"? Email.User = "bbunny at gmail.com"? Email.Password = "whatsupdoc!"?? Email.Port = 465? Email.Authentication = SmtpClient.Plain
? Email.Encrypt = Net.SSL

? Email.From = "bbunny at gmail.com"? Email.To.Add("dduck at yahoo.com")
? Email.Subject = "foghorns nephew"? Email.Body = ftext? ?? Email.Add(ftext, "text/plain", "egghead jr")??? Email.Send? Print "Mail Sent..."

?'sent previous email to wrong address - resending to correct address\




Ivan ?? \~/


?

I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
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Without ever having felt sorry for itself.
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Thu Dec  5 22:52:14 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 22:52:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <743da1a3-1f2a-c36c-497b-662138c9f0a1@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
 <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
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 <743da1a3-1f2a-c36c-497b-662138c9f0a1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>

Am 05.12.19 um 01:14 schrieb T Lee Davidson:

> I have no clue at present what might have puckered up Google's butt.

If we're trying to reverse engineer Google's strange decisions we are in
the same situation like with Microsoft which we all left earlier.

If they use AI not even they are able to debug it.

My provider sends me all mail whether spam, virus or not and here in
Germany it is forbidden that the provider decides by itself, what mail
sent to me should reach me or not!

So I'm quite angry about Google's behavior and I will try to report this
to the authorities.

What should we do in the meantime? If someone sends a project, packed in
tar.gz it's very likely that Google bounces it and most of the people
with a Gmail account won't recognize it.

But: It is in the archive of the mailinglist which would be not the case
when the sender offers it in a binary pastebin.

I get a lot of bounces from Gmail. Then I will send these to the
authorities.

And people with a Gmail account could try to inform their provider and
demand that they get their mail! And perhaps one or the other will
realize that this is a relatively hopeless undertaking and consider
entrusting his mail to another, more reliable supplier.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Dec  5 23:10:49 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 17:10:49 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
 <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
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 <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <8f4787ac-d4b8-d6f1-8489-209a8711b148@gmail.com>

On 12/5/19 4:52 PM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 05.12.19 um 01:14 schrieb T Lee Davidson:
> 
>> I have no clue at present what might have puckered up Google's butt. >
> If we're trying to reverse engineer Google's strange decisions we are in
> the same situation like with Microsoft which we all left earlier.
> 
> If they use AI not even they are able to debug it.
> 

I was just trying to determine if there was any difference in the archives based on the ones that get through verses Gianluigi's 
which did not. The only difference I can see is that the bounced archive contained a .component file.

But, who knows. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. I'm proof.

By the way, thank you for your time in managing the list, Christof.

And, on an unrelated note: would it be possible to include a link to the mail archive in the footer of mail sent from the list?


___
Lee

From ivanwms64 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  5 23:34:49 2019
From: ivanwms64 at yahoo.com (Ivan Williams)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 22:34:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Gambas-user] User Digest, Vol 27, Issue 20
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1575582781.22542.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
References: <mailman.1.1575582781.22542.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
Message-ID: <789205362.9485870.1575585289580@mail.yahoo.com>

Sorry for the ? in my email messages.? I do not know why they are appearing in my messages to the group.

Ivan ?? \~/


?

I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
Without ever having felt sorry for itself.
-- D.H. Lawrence





http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html


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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 19:57:59 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ivan Williams <ivanwms64 at yahoo.com>
To: "user at lists.gambas-basic.org" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] using smtp to send mail
Message-ID: <990501155.9411987.1575575879292 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Thanks!!!
This worked - created a new acct for sending email - went to security and checked the allow 3rd party access sign on and I am in like Flynn.
Thank You again


>> Also, I don't see your code setting the port, encryption, or authentication method. The following works for me:
>>? ?Email.Port = 465
>>? ?Email.Authentication = SmtpClient.Plain
>>? ?Email.Encrypt = Net.SSL




?

Ivan ?? \~/


?

I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
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From: Ivan Williams <ivanwms64 at yahoo.com>
To: "user at lists.gambas-basic.org" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Subject: [Gambas-user] smtp attachments/body in email
Message-ID: <213593538.3599079.1575578982403 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Greetings once more,
I am successfully able to send email but I cannot successfully attach the file to the email.? I would like to put the text of the file within the body of the email but when I do so the filename is the only thing in the body of the email and when I attempt to attach the file I get the name of the file witht he path attached.
?
? Email.Body = "/media/ShortBox/Stats/pmail.txt"
? Email.Add("string", "text/plain", "/media/ShortBox/Stats/pmail.txt")

? I have tried - string, stream, text but I still do not receive the file contents in the email body or as a attachment.? The file does have chr$(10) & chr$(13) to force line breaks and carriage returns in order to format the text.
? Can the file be forced into the email body - maximum 30 lines of text - 2400 chars?


Ivan ?? \~/


?

I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
Without ever having felt sorry for itself.
-- D.H. Lawrence





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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 21:25:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ivan Williams <ivanwms64 at yahoo.com>
To: "user at lists.gambas-basic.org" <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
Subject: [Gambas-user] Resolved: how to add attachment and include in
??? file body
Message-ID: <897863616.9452914.1575581127948 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Figured out how to attach the file -? for future reference in case anyone else has the issues I had today...
Ivan

? Dim Email As New SmtpClient? Dim ftext As String??? ftext = File.load("/media/ShortBox/Stats/pmail.txt")??? Email.Host = "smtp.gmail.com"? Email.User = "bbunny at gmail.com"? Email.Password = "whatsupdoc!"?? Email.Port = 465? Email.Authentication = SmtpClient.Plain
? Email.Encrypt = Net.SSL

? Email.From = "bbunny at gmail.com"? Email.To.Add("dduck at yahoo.com")
? Email.Subject = "foghorns nephew"? Email.Body = ftext? ?? Email.Add(ftext, "text/plain", "egghead jr")??? Email.Send? Print "Mail Sent..."

?'sent previous email to wrong address - resending to correct address\




Ivan ?? \~/


?

I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
Without ever having felt sorry for itself.
-- D.H. Lawrence





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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 22:52:14 +0100
From: Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de>
To: user at lists.gambas-basic.org
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
Message-ID: <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6 at deganius.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Am 05.12.19 um 01:14 schrieb T Lee Davidson:

> I have no clue at present what might have puckered up Google's butt.

If we're trying to reverse engineer Google's strange decisions we are in
the same situation like with Microsoft which we all left earlier.

If they use AI not even they are able to debug it.

My provider sends me all mail whether spam, virus or not and here in
Germany it is forbidden that the provider decides by itself, what mail
sent to me should reach me or not!

So I'm quite angry about Google's behavior and I will try to report this
to the authorities.

What should we do in the meantime? If someone sends a project, packed in
tar.gz it's very likely that Google bounces it and most of the people
with a Gmail account won't recognize it.

But: It is in the archive of the mailinglist which would be not the case
when the sender offers it in a binary pastebin.

I get a lot of bounces from Gmail. Then I will send these to the
authorities.

And people with a Gmail account could try to inform their provider and
demand that they get their mail! And perhaps one or the other will
realize that this is a relatively hopeless undertaking and consider
entrusting his mail to another, more reliable supplier.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  6 04:37:03 2019
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 14:07:03 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cascading child processes
Message-ID: <a81bbd3a-f729-f358-bbf9-084897309e82@gmail.com>

(I am trying to speed up searching an increasingly large database and a 
bunch of websites)

The search program now either invokes child processes via "newproc = 
Exec ..." or spawns via Shell. This is all fine and some of these 
processes invoke their own set of children. Since most of them spend 
most of their time waiting for an internet response or a complex SQL 
query, they are mainly sleeping.

Now occasionally, the searches take too long. So I want to terminate 
them (and all their children) from the top level program,  but not the 
top level program ("SMain") itself.

I have tried using Gambas process.Kill(), process.Signal(), 
gb.signal.Send(blah, blah) and shelling out to the "Kill" command itself.

None of these have been successful. All let me terminate the process 
invoked by SMain but all their children are left running.

Looking at man 2 kill it says "If pid is less than -1, then sig is sent 
to every process in the process group whose ID is -pid." This does let 
me send a SIGTERM to all the processes cascading from SMain, but 
unfortunately sends the signal to SMain itself.

I can't see a way to ignore or block a SIGTERM in SMain itself (and I am 
not sure that I really want to).

So, is there something that I am not seeing/understanding here or do I 
need to cascade the signalling down through all these programs ( and if 
so how do I trap a signal?)?

tia
bruce



From bagonergi at gmail.com  Fri Dec  6 12:20:12 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 12:20:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Il giorno gio 5 dic 2019 alle ore 22:53 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 05.12.19 um 01:14 schrieb T Lee Davidson:
>
> ...
> So I'm quite angry about Google's behavior and I will try to report this
> to the authorities.
> ...
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
>
> ----[ Gambas mailing-list is hosted by https://www.hostsharing.net ]----
>

Hi Christof,

first of all, as Lee, I renew my appreciation for the work you do for all
of us. ?
I understand the frustration, but before the complaints to the competent
authorities, my suggestion, if you haven't already done so, is to try to
dialogue with Google.
You asked them about the too many rebounds, did you try to make know to
Google our needs?
Did they respond?

Regards
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Fri Dec  6 12:23:28 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 12:23:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <8f4787ac-d4b8-d6f1-8489-209a8711b148@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <694f4e18-b50d-7aef-cce0-1f8b10df259d@deganius.de>

Am 05.12.19 um 23:10 schrieb T Lee Davidson:

> But, who knows. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural
> stupidity. I'm proof.

:-)

> By the way, thank you for your time in managing the list, Christof.

Thank you, it's a pleasure for me. :-)
I like Gambas very much and it's an honor for me to be a part of it.

> And, on an unrelated note: would it be possible to include a link to
> the mail archive in the footer of mail sent from the list?

This is a good idea. At the beginning we had that, but Beno?t didn't
like it, because as people quoted each other and did not remove the
footer(s), the quoted mails were full of that and hardly readable. So it
did not work.

If the members had knowledge about how and what to quote (do inline
quoting, remove unnecessary parts of the quoted mail, remove the footer
from the quote) and a little more discipline, it would be no problem to
integrate links to the archive, the search and so on into the footer of
every mail.

But then the people here should agree, some of them should change their
behavior and we all should instruct newbies to behave like that.

Maybe we could write a "nettiquette" page or a FAQ which contains
instructions on how to quote so that mails in long threads are easy
readable.

For instance this is a good example:
http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From ivanwms64 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  6 15:35:14 2019
From: ivanwms64 at yahoo.com (Ivan Williams)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 14:35:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Gambas-user] User Digest, Vol 27, Issue 22
References: <1402348176.9749566.1575642914901.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1402348176.9749566.1575642914901@mail.yahoo.com>


This is a addendum to my email yesterday - if you are using the mail function inside of a procedure with a loop - put the email.to.add outside of the loop else it will stack on the emails and you will receive multiple copies of the same email.
Also, ftext = File.load("/media/ShortBox/Stats/pmail.txt")? ?does not unload the previous file so it is adding all the files to the email as the program executes (luckily it only executes every 30 minutes)? ? -? I am currently looking for a way to unload the ftext once it has been loaded.? ?ftext="" does not work and file.unload does not exist.? ?
If anyone knows the code/command to unload a file can you let me know.
Thank You
Ivan?




Dim Email As New SmtpClientDim ftext As StringDim tmp1 as StringDim i as integer
Email.To.Add("dduck at yahoo.com")

/do until whatever condition is meet/

< perform calculations here and write output file to email users
tmp1 = CStr(Time)If Mid$(tmp1, 1, 2) = "02" Or Mid$(tmp1, 1, 2) = "03" Or Mid$(tmp1, 1, 2) = "04" Or Mid$(tmp1, 1, 2) = "05" Then? ? Print "Sleep Time...."? ? TextBox1.text = "Sysadmins need sleep too ...."? ? tmp1 = ""Else
ftext = File.load("/media/ShortBox/Stats/pmail.txt")Email.Host = "smtp.gmail.com"Email.User = "bbunny at gmail.com"Email.Password = "whatsupdoc!"?Email.Port = 465Email.Authentication = SmtpClient.Plain
Email.Encrypt = Net.SSL

Email.From = "bbunny at gmail.com"Email.Subject = "foghorns nephew"
Email.Body = ftextEmail.Add(ftext, "text/plain", "egghead jr")Email.SendTextBox1.Text= "Mail Sent..."

Endif
?//repeat procedure


Ivan ?? \~/


?

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From: Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com>
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(I am trying to speed up searching an increasingly large database and a 
bunch of websites)

The search program now either invokes child processes via "newproc = 
Exec ..." or spawns via Shell. This is all fine and some of these 
processes invoke their own set of children. Since most of them spend 
most of their time waiting for an internet response or a complex SQL 
query, they are mainly sleeping.

Now occasionally, the searches take too long. So I want to terminate 
them (and all their children) from the top level program,? but not the 
top level program ("SMain") itself.

I have tried using Gambas process.Kill(), process.Signal(), 
gb.signal.Send(blah, blah) and shelling out to the "Kill" command itself.

None of these have been successful. All let me terminate the process 
invoked by SMain but all their children are left running.

Looking at man 2 kill it says "If pid is less than -1, then sig is sent 
to every process in the process group whose ID is -pid." This does let 
me send a SIGTERM to all the processes cascading from SMain, but 
unfortunately sends the signal to SMain itself.

I can't see a way to ignore or block a SIGTERM in SMain itself (and I am 
not sure that I really want to).

So, is there something that I am not seeing/understanding here or do I 
need to cascade the signalling down through all these programs ( and if 
so how do I trap a signal?)?

tia
bruce




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From charlie at cogier.com  Fri Dec  6 15:53:03 2019
From: charlie at cogier.com (Charlie Ogier)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 14:53:03 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cascading child processes
In-Reply-To: <a81bbd3a-f729-f358-bbf9-084897309e82@gmail.com>
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Hi Bruce,

What about doing the search in the background? Have a look here. 
<https://forum.gambas.one/viewtopic.php?p=1899#p1899>

Charlie

On 06/12/2019 03:37, Bruce wrote:
> (I am trying to speed up searching an increasingly large database and 
> a bunch of websites)
>
> The search program now either invokes child processes via "newproc = 
> Exec ..." or spawns via Shell. This is all fine and some of these 
> processes invoke their own set of children. Since most of them spend 
> most of their time waiting for an internet response or a complex SQL 
> query, they are mainly sleeping.
>
> Now occasionally, the searches take too long. So I want to terminate 
> them (and all their children) from the top level program,? but not the 
> top level program ("SMain") itself.
>
> I have tried using Gambas process.Kill(), process.Signal(), 
> gb.signal.Send(blah, blah) and shelling out to the "Kill" command itself.
>
> None of these have been successful. All let me terminate the process 
> invoked by SMain but all their children are left running.
>
> Looking at man 2 kill it says "If pid is less than -1, then sig is 
> sent to every process in the process group whose ID is -pid." This 
> does let me send a SIGTERM to all the processes cascading from SMain, 
> but unfortunately sends the signal to SMain itself.
>
> I can't see a way to ignore or block a SIGTERM in SMain itself (and I 
> am not sure that I really want to).
>
> So, is there something that I am not seeing/understanding here or do I 
> need to cascade the signalling down through all these programs ( and 
> if so how do I trap a signal?)?
>
> tia
> bruce
>
>
>
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Fri Dec  6 17:38:44 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 11:38:44 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using SmtpClient attachments in a loop (was User
 Digest, Vol 27, Issue 22)
In-Reply-To: <1402348176.9749566.1575642914901@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1402348176.9749566.1575642914901.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Clearing a string variable by setting it to an empty string does work. I don't see where you tried to clear it. What I see is 
that you reload it from the file every time your loop executes.

There is no method to clear attachments of an SmtpClient. It is not even possible to set the Count to zero since that is a 
read-only property.

What you will need to do is kill and re-create the SmtpClient object in each loop iteration. Specifically, do not create a New 
object outside of the loop. For example, try something like this:

   Dim Email As SmtpClient

   While iamawake = True

     Email = New SmtpClient
     ' Set properties
     Email.Send
     Email = Null

   Wend


___
Lee


On 12/6/19 9:35 AM, Ivan Williams via User wrote:
> This is a addendum to my email yesterday - if you are using the mail function inside of a procedure with a loop - put the 
> email.to.add outside of the loop else it will stack on the emails and you will receive multiple copies of the same email.
> 
> Also, ftext = File.load("/media/ShortBox/Stats/pmail.txt")? ?does not unload the previous file so it is adding all the files to 
> the email as the program executes (luckily it only executes every 30 minutes)? ? - I am currently looking for a way to unload 
> the ftext once it has been loaded.? ?ftext="" does not work and file.unload does not exist.
> 
> If anyone knows the code/command to unload a file can you let me know.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Ivan
> 

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Fri Dec  6 18:43:18 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 12:43:18 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Cascading child processes
In-Reply-To: <a81bbd3a-f729-f358-bbf9-084897309e82@gmail.com>
References: <a81bbd3a-f729-f358-bbf9-084897309e82@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54a50749-6dd8-48d7-259b-bb4e3fed4fde@gmail.com>

On 12/5/19 10:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
> I can't see a way to ignore or block a SIGTERM in SMain itself (and I am not?sure?that?I?really?want?to).

Is the following insufficient?
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.signal

I can think of two strategies to accomplish killing child processes only.

1. Make each child process retain a handle on each of its own child processes so that you can, as you said, "cascade the 
signalling down through all these programs." Trap SIGTERM and, before exiting, send SIGTERM to all owned child processes.

2. Start sMain with `nohup` and then use SIGHUP to kill the children.


___
Lee


From hans at gambas-buch.de  Fri Dec  6 18:46:50 2019
From: hans at gambas-buch.de (Hans Lehmann)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 18:46:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] smtp attachments/body in email
In-Reply-To: <213593538.3599079.1575578982403@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <213593538.3599079.1575578982403.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <71d6a314-0e73-9cb2-f704-d7c8d57620d7@gambas-buch.de>

Hello,

You should have a look at the projects in the online book

at
https://www.gambas-buch.de/doku.php?id=k24:k24.4:k24.4.1:start#smtp-client .

Yours sincerely

Hans
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From simonlebon54 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  6 19:42:56 2019
From: simonlebon54 at yahoo.com (Steve G)
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 09:42:56 -0900
Subject: [Gambas-user] User Digest, Vol 27, Issue 22
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References: <mailman.1.1575630721.30415.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
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It seems to me that since you are using a recursive algorithm to spawn these various processes. You will also need to build into that recursive algorithm a recursive kill. Something that you could send to one of the processes, that tells it to kill itself and all of its children. And then of course since it's recursive we send that kill signal down the recursive line. 
Basically each process when it receives a kill signal which you can Define any way you would like, it first sends that signal to any of its children processes before terminating itself. This should take care of any process you try to kill and all of its children regardless of where in the recursion tree that is.

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>Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 14:07:03 +1030
>From: Bruce <adamnt42 at gmail.com>
>To: Gambas Mailing List <user at lists.gambas-basic.org>
>Subject: [Gambas-user] Cascading child processes
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>
>(I am trying to speed up searching an increasingly large database and a
>
>bunch of websites)
>
>The search program now either invokes child processes via "newproc = 
>Exec ..." or spawns via Shell. This is all fine and some of these 
>processes invoke their own set of children. Since most of them spend 
>most of their time waiting for an internet response or a complex SQL 
>query, they are mainly sleeping.
>
>Now occasionally, the searches take too long. So I want to terminate 
>them (and all their children) from the top level program,  but not the 
>top level program ("SMain") itself.
>
>I have tried using Gambas process.Kill(), process.Signal(), 
>gb.signal.Send(blah, blah) and shelling out to the "Kill" command
>itself.
>
>None of these have been successful. All let me terminate the process 
>invoked by SMain but all their children are left running.
>
>Looking at man 2 kill it says "If pid is less than -1, then sig is sent
>
>to every process in the process group whose ID is -pid." This does let 
>me send a SIGTERM to all the processes cascading from SMain, but 
>unfortunately sends the signal to SMain itself.
>
>I can't see a way to ignore or block a SIGTERM in SMain itself (and I
>am 
>not sure that I really want to).
>
>So, is there something that I am not seeing/understanding here or do I 
>need to cascade the signalling down through all these programs ( and if
>
>so how do I trap a signal?)?
>
>tia
>bruce
>
>
>
>
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>
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Fri Dec  6 19:49:52 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 13:49:52 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <694f4e18-b50d-7aef-cce0-1f8b10df259d@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <d6c514f8-9758-888f-e9d7-77d64ad5ad79@gmail.com>

On 12/6/19 6:23 AM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
>> And, on an unrelated note: would it be possible to include a link to
>> the mail archive in the footer of mail sent from the list?
 >
> This is a good idea. At the beginning we had that, but Beno?t didn't
> like it, because as people quoted each other and did not remove the
> footer(s), the quoted mails were full of that and hardly readable. So it
> did not work.

And, all that unnecessary kludge is the reason I prefer top-posting. And, of course, it allows me to be lazy.


> If the members had knowledge about how and what to quote [snip]
> 
> But then the people here should agree, some of them should change their
> behavior and we all should instruct newbies to behave like that.

If members would judiciously snip quoted messages, I would have no problem with bottom-posting. In fact, I would prefer it since 
top-posting has always seemed illogical to me. So, I will be changing my behavior to bottom-posting now.


> Maybe we could write a "nettiquette" page or a FAQ which contains
> instructions on how to quote so that mails in long threads are easy

That's a good idea. We could put up a page on the Wiki and link to it in the footer like:
"Please BOTTOM-POST and trim your replies: [link]

Here's a page draft of what I worked up real quick:

Top-posting is the practice of replying to a message by typing your response above that to which you are responding. This is 
both confusing and annoying because your readers will have to scroll down and extract the essentials of the existing thread in 
order to grasp the context of your reply; and then scroll back up again to read your reply.

Posting a "me too" comment at the bottom of a 100+ line message is no better because people have to scroll all the way down 
through 100+ lines they've already read in order to see your one-liner. One word comes to mind for that: frustrating. Your 
message is far more likely to be deleted without being read if you have too much quoted material before your reply.

The generally accepted "right way" of doing things is called "inline posting", whereby you insert your comments straight after 
that on which you are commenting, having stripped unnecessary text from the original quoted text. The end result is something 
which makes much more sense because it reads like a conversation.

When following up a post, please think before you quote. Since everybody else on the list also got the original post, don't 
quote it entirely. Quote only the parts that are relevant to your response. Make sure the quoted part is recognizable as such, 
by ensuring each quoted line starts with a > (or more >>, in case of multi-level quoting). Don't quote signatures or entire 
posts. Don't quote the standard signature.

Please don't use tabs or multiple spaces to quote text. Use the "> " sequence instead. Using whitespace to quote text makes it 
difficult to differentiate between what's quoted and the reply. And don't try to be cute or "different" and use some other 
character like "}" or whatever. Again, it's confusing. It wastes people's time.

Please try to have halfway reasonable spelling and grammar. When reading text with really bad spelling or grammar, people will 
have difficulty trying to understand your post.

Please don't have long, inflammatory, controversial or offensive signatures. The rule of thumb is no more than 4 lines of 80 
characters each.

For more "Netiquette" guidelines, see RFC 1855 [https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt].

Portions copied and/or adapted from:
http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/#s3-9
http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php#toppost


___
Lee
P.S. I think paragraph six is essential ;-)

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Fri Dec  6 20:01:45 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 14:01:45 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] User Digest, Vol 27, Issue 22
In-Reply-To: <8162bc76-3e90-48de-b13b-a6c1425be46b@yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.1.1575630721.30415.user@lists.gambas-basic.org>
 <8162bc76-3e90-48de-b13b-a6c1425be46b@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a0927fab-e835-a63b-064f-ac9b65209244@gmail.com>

On 12/6/19 1:42 PM, Steve G via User wrote:
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of User digest..."


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Lee

From g4mba5 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  6 21:26:16 2019
From: g4mba5 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=c3=aet_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 21:26:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using SmtpClient attachments in a loop (was User
 Digest, Vol 27, Issue 22)
In-Reply-To: <486077b5-ec8c-e497-f3d3-609b3ee6cf6f@gmail.com>
References: <1402348176.9749566.1575642914901.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1402348176.9749566.1575642914901@mail.yahoo.com>
 <486077b5-ec8c-e497-f3d3-609b3ee6cf6f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5569d73c-7715-cdfc-84a0-6e7df3e25c42@gmail.com>

Le 06/12/2019 ? 17:38, T Lee Davidson a ?crit?:
> Clearing a string variable by setting it to an empty string does work. I 
> don't see where you tried to clear it. What I see is that you reload it 
> from the file every time your loop executes.
> 
> There is no method to clear attachments of an SmtpClient. It is not even 
> possible to set the Count to zero since that is a read-only property.
> 
> What you will need to do is kill and re-create the SmtpClient object in 
> each loop iteration. Specifically, do not create a New object outside of 
> the loop. For example, try something like this:
> 
>  ? Dim Email As SmtpClient
> 
>  ? While iamawake = True
> 
>  ??? Email = New SmtpClient
>  ??? ' Set properties
>  ??? Email.Send
>  ??? Email = Null
> 
>  ? Wend
> 
> 
> ___
> Lee
> 

Hi,

I have just updated SmtpClient so that it can be reusable (it wasn't!), 
and added a Clear() method to clear all the attachments.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

From cedron at exede.net  Fri Dec  6 21:52:37 2019
From: cedron at exede.net (Cedron Dawg)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 15:52:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using SmtpClient attachments in a loop (was User
 Digest, Vol 27, Issue 22)
In-Reply-To: <5569d73c-7715-cdfc-84a0-6e7df3e25c42@gmail.com>
References: <1402348176.9749566.1575642914901.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1402348176.9749566.1575642914901@mail.yahoo.com>
 <486077b5-ec8c-e497-f3d3-609b3ee6cf6f@gmail.com>
 <5569d73c-7715-cdfc-84a0-6e7df3e25c42@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1236231006.31255810.1575665557072.JavaMail.zimbra@exede.net>

Beno?t, You are so awesome!



----- Original Message -----
From: "Beno?t Minisini" <g4mba5 at gmail.com>
Hi,

I have just updated SmtpClient so that it can be reusable (it wasn't!), 
and added a Clear() method to clear all the attachments.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Fri Dec  6 22:19:23 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 22:19:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <d6c514f8-9758-888f-e9d7-77d64ad5ad79@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Am 06.12.19 um 19:49 schrieb T Lee Davidson:

>> Maybe we could write a "nettiquette" page or a FAQ which contains 
>> instructions on how to quote so that mails in long threads are
>> easy
> 
> That's a good idea. We could put up a page on the Wiki and link to it
> in the footer like: "Please BOTTOM-POST and trim your replies:
> [link]
> 
> Here's a page draft of what I worked up real quick:

What you wrote is really good. Ok. Let's start a FAQ for the Gambas
mailinglists in the wiki. Are you able to do that? I'm not that good in
the wiki.

At first we were able to place links to the archive and search function
up there. Also to our generous donator Hostsharing. And then we could
add a link to that page in the footer of every mail.

If mails occur with 1 line answer in the middle of 100 lines quoting or
a footer is quoted several times we could refer to the FAQ and we can
ask the author to follow the rules.

If at the end nearly everybody understood and implemented the common
culture of writing we can put the most prominent links in the footer.
And then we have what you wanted.

:-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
Dies ist keine Signatur

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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 16:27:51 -0500
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 <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>
 <8f4787ac-d4b8-d6f1-8489-209a8711b148@gmail.com>
 <694f4e18-b50d-7aef-cce0-1f8b10df259d@deganius.de>
 <d6c514f8-9758-888f-e9d7-77d64ad5ad79@gmail.com>
 <49ed8811-4efb-cf5e-5190-61533afcefdd@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <761b3975-0e6d-a18c-8e57-3e9db4811faa@gmail.com>

On 12/6/19 4:19 PM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> What you wrote is really good. Ok. Let's start a FAQ for the Gambas
> mailinglists in the wiki. Are you able to do that? I'm not that good in
> the wiki.

As far as I know, I do not have permissions to create pages on the Wiki. I am, however, willing to Markdown the draft if it is 
approved.

Side note: Beno?t, for some reason, I am unable to logout from the Wiki. Clicking "logout" just refreshes the page and leaves me 
logged in.


-- 
Lee

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Fri Dec  6 22:41:26 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 16:41:26 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using SmtpClient attachments in a loop (was User
 Digest, Vol 27, Issue 22)
In-Reply-To: <5569d73c-7715-cdfc-84a0-6e7df3e25c42@gmail.com>
References: <1402348176.9749566.1575642914901.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1402348176.9749566.1575642914901@mail.yahoo.com>
 <486077b5-ec8c-e497-f3d3-609b3ee6cf6f@gmail.com>
 <5569d73c-7715-cdfc-84a0-6e7df3e25c42@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60bb7d05-0572-e2b9-b3e8-8cdb97ebb733@gmail.com>

On 12/6/19 3:26 PM, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> I have just updated SmtpClient so that it can be reusable (it wasn't!), and?added?a?Clear()?method?to?clear?all?the?attachments.

I agree with Cedron. That is awesome.

And, that changes things a bit (nb. totally untested):

Dim Email As New SmtpClient
Dim sFileText as String
Dim iamawake as Boolean = True

' Set static SmtpClient properties

While iamawake = True

   sFileText = File.Load(<myfile>)
   Email.Body = sFileText
   Email.Add("text/plain", sFileText)
   Email.Send
   Email.Clear

   If iamsleeping Then iamawake = False
Wend


-- 
Lee

From chrisml at deganius.de  Fri Dec  6 22:50:26 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 22:50:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFZfB8RooH5ATUk9CiGo+KNZ5oxfFZm40YhcCo=bjTgChw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
 <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-VcL=L8K5Uq-tKB8CKNoDzi_FWTqgCKt9QcYkW=wz4qgg@mail.gmail.com>
 <743da1a3-1f2a-c36c-497b-662138c9f0a1@gmail.com>
 <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZfB8RooH5ATUk9CiGo+KNZ5oxfFZm40YhcCo=bjTgChw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <da055210-7c34-fd2d-b053-b110f592d26f@deganius.de>

Hi Gianluigi,

Am 06.12.19 um 12:20 schrieb Gianluigi:

> first of all, as Lee, I renew my appreciation for the work you do for
> all of us. ?

Thank you very much :-)

> I understand the frustration, but before the complaints to the competent
> authorities, my suggestion, if you haven't already done so, is to try to
> dialogue with Google.
> You asked them about the too many rebounds, did you try to make know to
> Google our needs?

There is no human support. Just a help labyrith.

> Did they respond?

Do you know where I can email Google?

This is the page they are referring to in their bounces:

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6590?p=BlockedMessage&visit_id=637112643805044704-3315698617&rd=1

They just say they block mails with attachments at their will. And as we
found out this is not even consistent.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Fri Dec  6 23:32:34 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 23:32:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <761b3975-0e6d-a18c-8e57-3e9db4811faa@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
 <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-VcL=L8K5Uq-tKB8CKNoDzi_FWTqgCKt9QcYkW=wz4qgg@mail.gmail.com>
 <743da1a3-1f2a-c36c-497b-662138c9f0a1@gmail.com>
 <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>
 <8f4787ac-d4b8-d6f1-8489-209a8711b148@gmail.com>
 <694f4e18-b50d-7aef-cce0-1f8b10df259d@deganius.de>
 <d6c514f8-9758-888f-e9d7-77d64ad5ad79@gmail.com>
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 <761b3975-0e6d-a18c-8e57-3e9db4811faa@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8963588c-8e18-015f-7797-0ae69fb29948@deganius.de>

Am 06.12.19 um 22:27 schrieb T Lee Davidson:

> As far as I know, I do not have permissions to create pages on the
> Wiki. I am, however, willing to Markdown the draft if it is 
> approved.

AFAIK if you enter a address which doesn't exist like:
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/mailinglists

The wiki says "This page does not exist" but also offers a create button.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sat Dec  7 06:11:34 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 00:11:34 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki MarkDown page error
Message-ID: <70dbe2fd-2c9a-5446-c1d2-516a8d324055@gmail.com>

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/markdown yields:

Null object at line #87:

Indexed headers are headers that will be visible in the index generated by the `@{index}` special command (see below).

Stack backtrace:

WikiMarkdown.Command.281
Markup.ConvertMarkup.175
Markup.Convert.36
Markdown.ToHTML.15
Wiki._PrintPage.325
Wiki.Wiki.0
WebPage.__Render.31
WebPage.Render.56
Main.Main.693
  /  /


-- 
Lee

From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  7 06:31:00 2019
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 16:01:00 +1030
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki MarkDown page error
In-Reply-To: <70dbe2fd-2c9a-5446-c1d2-516a8d324055@gmail.com>
References: <70dbe2fd-2c9a-5446-c1d2-516a8d324055@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e7b8095a-78f4-d87f-754f-606c4302428e@gmail.com>


On 7/12/19 3:41 pm, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/markdown yields:
> 
> Null object at line #87:
> 
> Indexed headers are headers that will be visible in the index generated 
> by the `@{index}` special command (see below).
> 
> Stack backtrace:
> 
> WikiMarkdown.Command.281
> Markup.ConvertMarkup.175
> Markup.Convert.36
> Markdown.ToHTML.15
> Wiki._PrintPage.325
> Wiki.Wiki.0
> WebPage.__Render.31
> WebPage.Render.56
> Main.Main.693
>  ?/? /
> 
> 

I have "patched" the page so it renders (by putting a space in the
`@{index}` occurences, i.e. `@ {index}' )

But that doesn't solve the WikiMarkdown.Command.281 bug - that's up to 
those with code access.

rgrds
bruce

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Dec  7 08:26:21 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 08:26:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <da055210-7c34-fd2d-b053-b110f592d26f@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
 <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-VcL=L8K5Uq-tKB8CKNoDzi_FWTqgCKt9QcYkW=wz4qgg@mail.gmail.com>
 <743da1a3-1f2a-c36c-497b-662138c9f0a1@gmail.com>
 <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZfB8RooH5ATUk9CiGo+KNZ5oxfFZm40YhcCo=bjTgChw@mail.gmail.com>
 <da055210-7c34-fd2d-b053-b110f592d26f@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYWRwDb4CtR3vNW1zT+Pz1VCWhxwa6P-Cxv1tb0ozrh-g@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno ven 6 dic 2019 alle ore 22:51 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> ...
> There is no human support. Just a help labyrith.
> ...
>

You need an account and go to Settings > Send feedback
You must send feedback describing the problem, you can include or exclude a
screenshot, there is a checkbox.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Sat Dec  7 10:28:07 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 10:28:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYWRwDb4CtR3vNW1zT+Pz1VCWhxwa6P-Cxv1tb0ozrh-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
 <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-VcL=L8K5Uq-tKB8CKNoDzi_FWTqgCKt9QcYkW=wz4qgg@mail.gmail.com>
 <743da1a3-1f2a-c36c-497b-662138c9f0a1@gmail.com>
 <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZfB8RooH5ATUk9CiGo+KNZ5oxfFZm40YhcCo=bjTgChw@mail.gmail.com>
 <da055210-7c34-fd2d-b053-b110f592d26f@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFYWRwDb4CtR3vNW1zT+Pz1VCWhxwa6P-Cxv1tb0ozrh-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d854ec3a-8b99-884e-9cb3-06f3de9dd12e@deganius.de>

Am 07.12.19 um 08:26 schrieb Gianluigi:

> You need an account and go to Settings > Send feedback
> You must send feedback describing the problem, you can include or
> exclude a screenshot, there is a checkbox.

Thank you, but a screenshot? This is the place to send a feedback for
the Gmail program. They offer to send a screenshot of the Gmail program.
We have no problem with the program.

We have a problem with the Google mail smtp-in servers (like
gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com) which are configured in a bad manner.
Sending a screenshot is nothing what makes sense here.

I need a contact where I can send the bounces (which contain the ids of
the messages so that an admin can find them in the logs). I have
searched the Google Mail help a lot. There is no such thing.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Sat Dec  7 11:46:51 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 11:46:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <d854ec3a-8b99-884e-9cb3-06f3de9dd12e@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
 <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-VcL=L8K5Uq-tKB8CKNoDzi_FWTqgCKt9QcYkW=wz4qgg@mail.gmail.com>
 <743da1a3-1f2a-c36c-497b-662138c9f0a1@gmail.com>
 <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZfB8RooH5ATUk9CiGo+KNZ5oxfFZm40YhcCo=bjTgChw@mail.gmail.com>
 <da055210-7c34-fd2d-b053-b110f592d26f@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFYWRwDb4CtR3vNW1zT+Pz1VCWhxwa6P-Cxv1tb0ozrh-g@mail.gmail.com>
 <d854ec3a-8b99-884e-9cb3-06f3de9dd12e@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFb_UU1S6HzXnDpk0Jb28UUkcfobXRd4SA=iaq22v4Wv6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno sab 7 dic 2019 alle ore 10:29 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> ...
> We have a problem with the Google mail smtp-in servers (like
> gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com) which are configured in a bad manner.
> Sending a screenshot is nothing what makes sense here.
>
> I need a contact where I can send the bounces (which contain the ids of
> the messages so that an admin can find them in the logs). I have
> searched the Google Mail help a lot. There is no such thing.
>

Trying costs nothing (as long as it has some meaning in English :-) )
Send feedback (without screenshot) in which you describe the problem and
ask how to contact an administrator.
Let's see if they answer you.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sat Dec  7 18:43:15 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 12:43:15 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <8963588c-8e18-015f-7797-0ae69fb29948@deganius.de>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
 <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-VcL=L8K5Uq-tKB8CKNoDzi_FWTqgCKt9QcYkW=wz4qgg@mail.gmail.com>
 <743da1a3-1f2a-c36c-497b-662138c9f0a1@gmail.com>
 <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>
 <8f4787ac-d4b8-d6f1-8489-209a8711b148@gmail.com>
 <694f4e18-b50d-7aef-cce0-1f8b10df259d@deganius.de>
 <d6c514f8-9758-888f-e9d7-77d64ad5ad79@gmail.com>
 <49ed8811-4efb-cf5e-5190-61533afcefdd@deganius.de>
 <761b3975-0e6d-a18c-8e57-3e9db4811faa@gmail.com>
 <8963588c-8e18-015f-7797-0ae69fb29948@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <11ebc1c8-581b-45e9-0a66-f01b86bf7808@gmail.com>

On 12/6/19 5:32 PM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> AFAIK if you enter a address which doesn't exist like:
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/mailinglists
> 
> The wiki says "This page does not exist" but also offers a create button.

You are correct.

I have created the page: http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette

Comments? Revisions?


-- 
Lee

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Sat Dec  7 18:45:47 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 12:45:47 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki MarkDown page error
In-Reply-To: <e7b8095a-78f4-d87f-754f-606c4302428e@gmail.com>
References: <70dbe2fd-2c9a-5446-c1d2-516a8d324055@gmail.com>
 <e7b8095a-78f4-d87f-754f-606c4302428e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1c5ecc59-3f93-ce62-bce2-e777f69943d5@gmail.com>

On 12/7/19 12:31 AM, Bruce wrote:
> I?have?"patched"?the?page?so?it?renders?(by?putting?a?space?in?the
> `@{index}`?occurences,?i.e.?`@?{index}'?)
> 
> But that doesn't solve the WikiMarkdown.Command.281 bug - that's up to those?with?code?access.

Thank you. I got what I needed.

I'm not seeing the WikiMarkdown.Command.281 bug. Perhaps the Wiki is being worked on. But, I still cannot log out.


-- 
Lee

From ivanwms64 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  8 17:35:41 2019
From: ivanwms64 at yahoo.com (Ivan Williams)
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 16:35:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using SmtpClient attachments in a loop
References: <845972695.4529226.1575822941086.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <845972695.4529226.1575822941086@mail.yahoo.com>

Thank You Sir
I truly appreciate the modification.


>> Clearing a string variable by setting it to an empty string does work. I 
>> don't see where you tried to clear it. What I see is that you reload it 
>> from the file every time your loop executes.
>
>Hi,
>
>I have just updated SmtpClient so that it can be reusable (it wasn't!), 
>and added a Clear() method to clear all the attachments.
>
>Regards,
>
>-- 
>Beno?t Minisini




?

Ivan ?? \~/


?

I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself.
A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
Without ever having felt sorry for itself.
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Mon Dec  9 10:24:21 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 10:24:21 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFb_UU1S6HzXnDpk0Jb28UUkcfobXRd4SA=iaq22v4Wv6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2rqFb12N==pvyhfakWfsbw-597_E1eOke36ht4FdASHnLjYQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a13eb731-7634-32da-c37d-fd5cd30dd4ae@deganius.de>
 <4e94fc94-d511-1e23-a94b-52ff48bd84c7@gmail.com>
 <CAH19H-VcL=L8K5Uq-tKB8CKNoDzi_FWTqgCKt9QcYkW=wz4qgg@mail.gmail.com>
 <743da1a3-1f2a-c36c-497b-662138c9f0a1@gmail.com>
 <ce672e27-8890-6b93-e9ef-735b8e4927f6@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZfB8RooH5ATUk9CiGo+KNZ5oxfFZm40YhcCo=bjTgChw@mail.gmail.com>
 <da055210-7c34-fd2d-b053-b110f592d26f@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFYWRwDb4CtR3vNW1zT+Pz1VCWhxwa6P-Cxv1tb0ozrh-g@mail.gmail.com>
 <d854ec3a-8b99-884e-9cb3-06f3de9dd12e@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFb_UU1S6HzXnDpk0Jb28UUkcfobXRd4SA=iaq22v4Wv6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <35ebaee6-5073-3cd3-3342-e6965e01b87b@deganius.de>

Am 07.12.19 um 11:46 schrieb Gianluigi:

> Trying costs nothing (as long as it has some meaning in English :-) )
> Send feedback (without screenshot) in which you describe the problem and
> ask how to contact an administrator.
> Let's see if they answer you.

I have no private Google account.

So ... can you do this? It was your mail, which went not through. You
can show them the mail and for nearly every mail the answer of the mail
server was:

> <xyz-example at gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4013:c07::1b]
>     said: 552-5.7.0 This message was blocked because its content presents a
>     potential 552-5.7.0 security issue. Please visit 552-5.7.0
>     https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BlockedMessage to review our 552 5.7.0
>     message content and attachment content guidelines.

They can see the attachment when they look into your account (or you
could forward it).


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Dec  9 17:41:54 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 11:41:54 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
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I apologize for this message not being in the appropriate thread. I had deleted the other sub-thread thinking that I would get a 
response to my last message: https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2019-December/068305.html

Is the page I created acceptable?


-- 
Lee

From lapisdecor at gmail.com  Mon Dec  9 17:45:59 2019
From: lapisdecor at gmail.com (Luis Louro)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 16:45:59 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
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A segunda, 9/12/2019, 16:42, T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at gmail.com>
escreveu:

>
> Is the page I created acceptable?
>

Yes.

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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Mon Dec  9 18:19:00 2019
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 18:19:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Which way of storing these data would you choose?
Message-ID: <5d90a497-8c8b-3356-3230-8c75ad07e9a8@osnanet.de>

Hi folks,

Just cannot decide what would be easier for me. Maybe you have an advice 
or two :)

There is a number of definitions for things (in my case, it's text 
paragraphs). There is name, indentation, left/rightbound/centered, font, 
size and so on for each. And there may be a dozen of declarations.

First I thought I could simply set all values for one declaration into a 
TAB separated string (them come from a file anyway), and the strings 
into an array. The drawback would be, I would have to keep a list of 
positions for the values, i. e. name is 0, indentation is 1, leftbound 
is 2 etc., and in each an every function poking and peeking values I 
would have to reference the values via these position numbers.

The second idea was to have a number of arrays for each declaration, 
having a name like the value and a datatype which fits the data. The 
values for each declaration could be referenced via one pointer to all 
arrays. The drawback would be, I would have more than a dozen single 
arrays which I would have to maintain each time.

I have used both methods in projects, each proved to be ok for this or 
that, but this time it's the sheer number of values to be stored for 
each declaration which makes both seem somewhat... roundabout.

Is there a better, a more compact way I have missed? Actually, it's like 
a table of values. Maybe something like structs? (In the help text for 
structs, I am warned to use structs...) Isn't there a more Gambas way to 
achieve this, something that ends up with some myArray.thisValue[] 
pointing to each value?

Thank you for your insight!

Regards
Rolf

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Mon Dec  9 19:12:18 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 13:12:18 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Which way of storing these data would you choose?
In-Reply-To: <5d90a497-8c8b-3356-3230-8c75ad07e9a8@osnanet.de>
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On 12/9/19 12:19 PM, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> The second idea was to have a number of arrays for each declaration, having a name like the value and a datatype which fits the 
> data. The values for each declaration could be referenced via one pointer to all arrays. The drawback would be, I would have 
> more than a dozen single arrays?which?I?would?have?to?maintain?each?time.

It sounds like perhaps you want an array of collections (Collection[]). Values in a collection are variant.
["name": "paragraph1", "indentation": 4, "justification": "left", "font": "sans-serif", "size": 12]

Dim MyCollection as New Collection[]

Paragraph one could be MyCollection[0], paragraph two, MyCollection[1], etc. This assumes, though, that the paragraphs would 
have a related context, ie. be in the same document.


-- 
Lee

From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec  9 23:10:52 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 23:10:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Which way of storing these data would you choose?
In-Reply-To: <eab6e9cd-6964-fb2f-a8b9-533db817c51c@gmail.com>
References: <5d90a497-8c8b-3356-3230-8c75ad07e9a8@osnanet.de>
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Il giorno lun 9 dic 2019 alle ore 19:13 T Lee Davidson <
t.lee.davidson at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On 12/9/19 12:19 PM, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>

I would opt for a class, a new object for each paragraph.

Regards
Gianluigi
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Mon Dec  9 23:15:16 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 23:15:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
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Il giorno lun 9 dic 2019 alle ore 10:25 Christof Thalhofer <
chrisml at deganius.de> ha scritto:

> Am 07.12.19 um 11:46 schrieb Gianluigi:
>
>
>
> I have no private Google account.
>
> So ... can you do this?
>

Done, who knows if they answer?

Regards
Gianluigi
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From jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com  Tue Dec 10 04:06:12 2019
From: jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 05:06:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] QPainter::begin: Painter already active
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7QhM+61BxxpvT8qYNV_rRB4JoNUGAWNVe9DwqGeTe4OhA@mail.gmail.com>
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If there is fix for this, can it be pushed to current dev version?
The messages are clogging the console. Sys info below.


Jussi

[System]
Gambas=3.14.90 5e907c649 (master)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=4.15.0-72-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Linux Mint 19 Tara
Desktop=CINNAMON
Theme=Gtk
Language=en_US.UTF-8
Memory=7977M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11510.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.5.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.19.4
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1405.0
GTK+2=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.32
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.2200.30
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.0.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.73.0.0
QT4=libQtCore.so.4.8.7
QT5=libQt5Core.so.5.9.5
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
SQLite=libsqlite3.so.0.8.6

[Environment]
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
DEFAULTS_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/cinnamon.default.path
DESKTOP_SESSION=cinnamon
DISPLAY=:0
GB_GUI=gb.qt4
GB_PROFILE_MAX=1000
GDMSESSION=cinnamon
GDM_LANG=en_US
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE=<home>/Desktop/Gambas3.desktop
GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE_PID=7716
GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=1
HOME=<home>
INSIDE_NEMO_PYTHON=
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_NAME=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=fi_FI.UTF-8
LOGNAME=<user>
MANDATORY_PATH=/usr/share/gconf/cinnamon.mandatory.path
PATH=<home>/.local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
PWD=<home>
QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
QT_LOGGING_RULES=*.debug=false
QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
SESSION_MANAGER=local/<hostname>:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/1139,unix/<hostname>:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1139
SHELL=/bin/bash
SHLVL=0
SSH_AGENT_PID=1203
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
TZ=:/etc/localtime
USER=<user>
XAUTHORITY=<home>/.Xauthority
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/xdg-cinnamon:/etc/xdg
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=X-Cinnamon
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/cinnamon:/usr/share/gnome:<home>/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
XDG_GREETER_DATA_DIR=/var/lib/lightdm-data/<user>
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=cinnamon
XDG_SESSION_ID=c1
XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session0
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
XDG_VTNR=7

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 3:38 AM Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have a lot of warnings: QPainter::begin: Painter already active
> Is that warning necessary? I'm not using draw.begin, inside of _draw event.
>
>
> Jussi
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 10 05:40:00 2019
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 05:40:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Which way of storing these data would you choose?
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If your structure is stable. Use an array of classes. Then if not then  an
array of collection can be a good idea.

I do prefere a class in your case. Think you also add code to manage
rendering or manipulation  in the class itself. It is at the same time the
container fot data and the tool who know how to use it
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec 10 09:14:00 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:14:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
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Am 09.12.19 um 23:15 schrieb Gianluigi:

>     I have no private Google account.
> 
>     So ... can you do this?
> 
> 
> Done, who knows if they answer?

Cool, thank you very much. Then let's see ...


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec 10 09:20:02 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:20:02 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test of mail received
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Am 09.12.19 um 17:41 schrieb T Lee Davidson:

> I apologize for this message not being in the appropriate thread. I
> had deleted the other sub-thread thinking that I would get a response
> to my last message:
> https://lists.gambas-basic.org/pipermail/user/2019-December/068305.html
>
>  Is the page I created acceptable?

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
Yes, I think it's very good.

I've put the link into the footer. IMO the only thing is, that the name
"Netiquette" should change to "FAQ" later.

Maybe we have to answer further questions there in the future.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec 10 09:43:16 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:43:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
Message-ID: <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>

Hi,

I've got a mail from an anonymous person who wanted to invite me to
Discourse ... it comes from the Netherlands. The anonymous person has
registered gambas.fr and forwards it to Discourse.

It seems the person got my email from this mailinglist and gave it to
Discourse. That's not fine ...

----------------------------------------------

The domain gambas.fr is registered here:

registrar:   SONEXO B.V
type:        Isp Option 1
address:     Edeseweg 52 -
address:     6721 JX Bennekom
country:     NL
phone:       + 31 30 82 00 291
fax-no:      +31 30 27 11 470
e-mail:      info at sonexo.nl
website:     http://www.sonexo.nl
anonymous:   NO
registered:  2014-04-23T12:00:00Z
source:      FRNIC

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Betreff: 	Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited
you to join gambas.discourse.group
Datum: 	Mon, 09 Dec 2019 18:30:59 +0000
Von: 	Gambas Basic <gambas at discoursemail.com>
Antwort an: 	Gambas Basic <gambas at discoursemail.com>
An: 	chrisml at deganius.de

Gambas Fr (gambas.fr <http://gambas.fr>) invited you to join

    *Gambas Basic*

    A place to share everything about the Gambas language and its
    development environment.

If you?re interested, click the link below:

https://gambas.discourse.group/invites/a894f9021bbfc5ffeeeee6415ef4061d

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec 10 09:53:23 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:53:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know about you. I got 10.
Hopefully this is not the answer of GMail...

Regards
Gianluigi
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 10 10:01:54 2019
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:01:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>

Well it's me ... But It does not seem to show my name ..  sorry. It's an
automatic invitation. And yes the mail come from here because I have
selected you to be moderators on this forum

Le mar. 10 d?c. 2019 ? 09:54, Gianluigi <bagonergi at gmail.com> a ?crit :

>
>
> I don't know about you. I got 10.
> Hopefully this is not the answer of GMail...
>
> Regards
> Gianluigi
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
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From bagonergi at gmail.com  Tue Dec 10 10:11:40 2019
From: bagonergi at gmail.com (Gianluigi)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:11:40 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2rqFYBuM_7HmpK-DhhJgCe1UH0tx1zE_nAScG5RV0GzrZ53g@mail.gmail.com>

Il giorno mar 10 dic 2019 alle ore 10:03 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Well it's me ... But It does not seem to show my name ..  sorry. It's an
> automatic invitation. And yes the mail come from here because I have
> selected you to be moderators on this forum
>

lol

Well, I've reported you as spam :-P

Gianluigi
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From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Tue Dec 10 10:12:07 2019
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:12:07 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <54c6d943-7c9e-06d9-1c6f-44346db8fd7a@osnanet.de>

I've got 9 mails and thought, well they discussed this mail thing 
lately, maybe someone's tried something and it got somewhat wrong ;)

Regards
Rolf


Am 10.12.19 um 09:43 schrieb Christof Thalhofer:
> Hi,
> 
> I've got a mail from an anonymous person who wanted to invite me to
> Discourse ... it comes from the Netherlands. The anonymous person has
> registered gambas.fr and forwards it to Discourse.
> 
> It seems the person got my email from this mailinglist and gave it to
> Discourse. That's not fine ...
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
> The domain gambas.fr is registered here:
> 
> registrar:   SONEXO B.V
> type:        Isp Option 1
> address:     Edeseweg 52 -
> address:     6721 JX Bennekom
> country:     NL
> phone:       + 31 30 82 00 291
> fax-no:      +31 30 27 11 470
> e-mail:      info at sonexo.nl
> website:     http://www.sonexo.nl
> anonymous:   NO
> registered:  2014-04-23T12:00:00Z
> source:      FRNIC
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Betreff: 	Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited
> you to join gambas.discourse.group
> Datum: 	Mon, 09 Dec 2019 18:30:59 +0000
> Von: 	Gambas Basic <gambas at discoursemail.com>
> Antwort an: 	Gambas Basic <gambas at discoursemail.com>
> An: 	chrisml at deganius.de
> 
> Gambas Fr (gambas.fr <http://gambas.fr>) invited you to join
> 
>      *Gambas Basic*
> 
>      A place to share everything about the Gambas language and its
>      development environment.
> 
> If you?re interested, click the link below:
> 
> https://gambas.discourse.group/invites/a894f9021bbfc5ffeeeee6415ef4061d
> 
>                                                             
> 
> 
> 
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
> 


From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec 10 10:16:38 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:16:38 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0036e6c3-20ee-8abf-687a-b207b3181365@deganius.de>

Am 10.12.19 um 10:01 schrieb Fabien Bodard:

> Well it's me ... But It does not seem to show my name ..? sorry. It's an
> automatic invitation. And yes the mail come from here because I have
> selected you to be moderators on this forum?

Ahh ... ok. No problem. :-)

Why do you want to discuss on Discourse? We have a very small community
and IMO there is the danger of fragmentation.

And ... the other thingi is ... IMO Discourse is another walled garden.
It was financed by venture capital. But maybe I'm a bit paranoid ...

;-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
Dies ist keine Signatur

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec 10 10:17:22 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:17:22 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYBuM_7HmpK-DhhJgCe1UH0tx1zE_nAScG5RV0GzrZ53g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFYBuM_7HmpK-DhhJgCe1UH0tx1zE_nAScG5RV0GzrZ53g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6b730323-2cae-bbc2-aa1d-281ab0bd1e5f@deganius.de>

Am 10.12.19 um 10:11 schrieb Gianluigi:

> lol
> 
> Well, I've reported you as spam :-P

Hahaha :-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
Dies ist keine Signatur

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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 10 12:06:36 2019
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 12:06:36 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL66n0c76fhxB2EnRZ1J_ZiMB68hpoJYc9y6dgRk0BS0Tg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm really sorry as the system take only the root ofmy mail and settup the
name with it without query me before sending to you the mails
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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 10 12:09:16 2019
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 12:09:16 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <0036e6c3-20ee-8abf-687a-b207b3181365@deganius.de>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0036e6c3-20ee-8abf-687a-b207b3181365@deganius.de>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL7kyku45wE6Vm6jgeXu8PPLt3++Fv1mfM8=21fh8rmkDg@mail.gmail.com>

Le mar. 10 d?c. 2019 ? 10:17, Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de> a
?crit :

> Am 10.12.19 um 10:01 schrieb Fabien Bodard:
>
> > Well it's me ... But It does not seem to show my name ..  sorry. It's an
> > automatic invitation. And yes the mail come from here because I have
> > selected you to be moderators on this forum
>
> Ahh ... ok. No problem. :-)
>
> Why do you want to discuss on Discourse? We have a very small community
> and IMO there is the danger of fragmentation.
>
> And ... the other thingi is ... IMO Discourse is another walled garden.
> It was financed by venture capital. But maybe I'm a bit paranoid ...
>

Certainly... Money is good sometime if you want to live. No Capital
interest, no really existance... It's the way true live goes...



> ;-)
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----
>
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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec 10 12:14:41 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 12:14:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL66n0c76fhxB2EnRZ1J_ZiMB68hpoJYc9y6dgRk0BS0Tg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL66n0c76fhxB2EnRZ1J_ZiMB68hpoJYc9y6dgRk0BS0Tg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f69a6c65-d3d0-b79c-0eb9-a8cd90107fd1@deganius.de>

Am 10.12.19 um 12:06 schrieb Fabien Bodard:

> I'm really sorry as the system take only the root ofmy mail and settup
> the name with it without query me before sending to you the mails

Hey, no problem! I've just subscribed. Let's figure it out. At least the
claim is occupied now.

:-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
Dies ist keine Signatur

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From chrisml at deganius.de  Tue Dec 10 12:25:50 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 12:25:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL7kyku45wE6Vm6jgeXu8PPLt3++Fv1mfM8=21fh8rmkDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
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Message-ID: <0374b9c9-25b6-be79-c53d-e6571709d9e5@deganius.de>

Am 10.12.19 um 12:09 schrieb Fabien Bodard:

>     And ... the other thingi is ... IMO Discourse is another walled garden.
>     It was financed by venture capital. But maybe I'm a bit paranoid ...
> 
> 
> Certainly... Money is good sometime if you want to live. No Capital
> interest, no really existance... It's the way true live goes...?

I have nothing against money. But I'm afraid of vendor lockin.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enfermement_propri%C3%A9taire

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
Dies ist keine Signatur

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From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 10 17:17:59 2019
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:17:59 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <0374b9c9-25b6-be79-c53d-e6571709d9e5@deganius.de>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0036e6c3-20ee-8abf-687a-b207b3181365@deganius.de>
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Message-ID: <CAFkCsL6ZQPko7SQscj-TArwSP6ejmddGEYJrjo=9YuPqJ7rjcw@mail.gmail.com>

I understound ... but it's just a start node, nothing is against us if
 we want to have a self hosting version. It's a free software.

Le mar. 10 d?c. 2019 ? 12:26, Christof Thalhofer <chrisml at deganius.de> a ?crit :
>
> Am 10.12.19 um 12:09 schrieb Fabien Bodard:
>
> >     And ... the other thingi is ... IMO Discourse is another walled garden.
> >     It was financed by venture capital. But maybe I'm a bit paranoid ...
> >
> >
> > Certainly... Money is good sometime if you want to live. No Capital
> > interest, no really existance... It's the way true live goes...
>
> I have nothing against money. But I'm afraid of vendor lockin.
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enfermement_propri%C3%A9taire
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>
> --
> Dies ist keine Signatur
>
>
> ----[ http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette ]----



-- 
Fabien Bodard

Gambas Basic : http://gambas.sf.net
GambasForge : http://www.gambasforge.org
NEW discourse Gambas Forum : https://gambas.discourse.group/

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Dec 10 17:21:36 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 11:21:36 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2rqFYBuM_7HmpK-DhhJgCe1UH0tx1zE_nAScG5RV0GzrZ53g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFYBuM_7HmpK-DhhJgCe1UH0tx1zE_nAScG5RV0GzrZ53g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4dd2a714-d895-7f04-22ad-78d59d7567a0@gmail.com>

On 12/10/19 4:11 AM, Gianluigi wrote:
> 
> 
> Il giorno mar 10 dic 2019 alle ore 10:03 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at gmail.com <mailto:gambas.fr at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
>     Well it's me ... But It does not seem to show my name ..? sorry. It's an automatic invitation. And yes the mail come from
>     here because I have selected you to be moderators on this forum
> 
> 
> lol
> 
> Well, I've reported you as spam :-P
> 

ROTFLMAO - That is hilarious!

One thing I have noticed about the mailing list is that the sender's address is exposed. Anyone could harvest addresses by 
signing up to the list, though not a great harvest. And, I do not know if there is a feature of Mailman that could prevent that, 
or if it is even necessary.


-- 
Lee

From gambas.fr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 10 17:30:49 2019
From: gambas.fr at gmail.com (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:30:49 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Gambas Fr (gambas.fr) invited you to join
 gambas.discourse.group
In-Reply-To: <4dd2a714-d895-7f04-22ad-78d59d7567a0@gmail.com>
References: <3854a691-d620-4e08-8389-5da437aaaa5a@gambas.discourse.group>
 <5554c866-e26a-c94c-3b45-1a7263326863@deganius.de>
 <CAJ2rqFZ+CaQiQNP3gqmC-PwNC=Q4LFr3me7S3oRbyVBp2QWwYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFkCsL5KUWG+A04Aeqyn1Cu-65omMrU9npddG+tqYhCsFwQCFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2rqFYBuM_7HmpK-DhhJgCe1UH0tx1zE_nAScG5RV0GzrZ53g@mail.gmail.com>
 <4dd2a714-d895-7f04-22ad-78d59d7567a0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL7wDOMfpyEL7wPOKsFEXZpn3+4pG=mjJ+jX4DK6S5zBDw@mail.gmail.com>

By definition mailing list is a mail exchange so masking the mail
address is a non sens

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Tue Dec 10 17:36:33 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 11:36:33 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] New Wiki Netiquette page (was Test of mail
 received)
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On 12/10/19 3:20 AM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/netiquette
> Yes, I think it's very good.
> 
> I've put the link into the footer. IMO the only thing is, that the name
> "Netiquette" should change to "FAQ" later.

Yes, that might be. We'll see. Should that time come, I would propose simply adding "... and FAQ" to the title.

Should the Mailing List Netiquette page be linked on the front page of the Wiki? I'm thinking in the Documents section right 
underneath "Frequently Asked Questions".


-- 
Lee

From james at lixce.com  Thu Dec 12 04:42:54 2019
From: james at lixce.com (james)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 03:42:54 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Close the Application Stream
Message-ID: <20191212034254.Horde.L0nl45H6m8qyByZp1qeM8Hb@www.lixce.com>

I'm writing a library to provide GUI spell checking to my programs and a stand alone GUI spell checker using aspell.  To provide some backward compatibility I want to be able to pass words this way:

echo wrld | lixce-aspell -a (the way aspell works on the command line)

I can accomplish this using:

Public Sub Application_Read()
  Dim sLine As String
  Read #Last, sLine, -256
  Print "Found this on stdIn: " & Trim$(sLine)
  Close #Last
End

This works fine when I use the command line above.

THE PROBLEM IS: I cannot figure out how to close the Application Stream when I start the program WITHOUT pipeing anything to it.

I have tried:

Close #Application 'Result: "bad use of virtual class"
Close #Last 'Result: "Null Object"
Close Application_Read 'Result: "Wanted Stream, got function"
Application_Read() 'Result "Null Object"

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Regards, -j


From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Dec 12 06:43:56 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 00:43:56 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Close the Application Stream
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On 12/11/19 10:42 PM, james wrote:
> I'm writing a library to provide GUI spell checking to my programs and a stand alone GUI spell checker using aspell.  To provide some backward compatibility I want to be able to pass words this way:
> 
> echo wrld | lixce-aspell -a (the way aspell works on the command line)

I think I'm not quite understanding. Are you saying that you want to use your application on the command line in the same way 
that aspell is used (eg. echo wrld | myGambasApp.gambas)?


> Public Sub Application_Read()

I believe that should be: Static Public Sub Application_Read()


> THE PROBLEM IS: I cannot figure out how to close the Application Stream when I start the program WITHOUT pipeing anything to it.

Again, I'm confused. If you are designing a program to read stdIn on launch, then why are you starting it without piping 
anything to it? And, if you are done reading stdIn or there's nothing to read, why would you need to close the Watch on stdIn? 
Just close the application.


-- 
Lee

From chrisml at deganius.de  Thu Dec 12 07:43:52 2019
From: chrisml at deganius.de (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 07:43:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] New Wiki Netiquette page (was Test of mail
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Am 10.12.19 um 17:36 schrieb T Lee Davidson:

> Should the Mailing List Netiquette page be linked on the front page
> of the Wiki? I'm thinking in the Documents section right underneath
> "Frequently Asked Questions".

I linked to it here:
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/forum

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From adamnt42 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 12 07:53:18 2019
From: adamnt42 at gmail.com (Bruce)
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On 12/12/19 5:13 pm, Christof Thalhofer wrote> I linked to it here:
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/forum

Which is an apt and proper place!

(See what I did there :-) )

b

From james at lixce.com  Thu Dec 12 14:16:36 2019
From: james at lixce.com (james)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 13:16:36 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Solved]  Close the Application Stream
Message-ID: <20191212131636.Horde.dNwZ_-nbU2rKqQNCcOlCv8x@www.lixce.com>

I found it.

Close #File.In

Thanks 
-j

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Dec 12 18:41:38 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 12:41:38 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] New Wiki Netiquette page (was Test of mail
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On 12/12/19 1:43 AM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 10.12.19 um 17:36 schrieb T Lee Davidson:
> 
>> Should the Mailing List Netiquette page be linked on the front page
>> of the Wiki? I'm thinking in the Documents section right underneath
>> "Frequently Asked Questions".
> 
> I linked to it here:
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/forum

That's a handy page. I didn't even know it existed. Where is it linked? I don't see it on the Wiki front page.


-- 
Lee

From t.lee.davidson at gmail.com  Thu Dec 12 18:47:08 2019
From: t.lee.davidson at gmail.com (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 12:47:08 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] New Wiki Netiquette page (was Test of mail
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On 12/12/19 12:41 PM, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> On 12/12/19 1:43 AM, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> I linked to it here:
>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/forum
> 
> That's a handy page. I didn't even know it existed. Where is it linked? I don't see it on the Wiki front page.
> 

Nevermind, I found it. It's linked on http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc which is linked in the Documents section of the front page.


-- 
Lee

From rwe-sse at osnanet.de  Fri Dec 13 15:39:44 2019
From: rwe-sse at osnanet.de (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 15:39:44 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Which way of storing these data would you choose?
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Am 09.12.19 um 19:12 schrieb T Lee Davidson:
> On 12/9/19 12:19 PM, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>> The second idea was to have a number of arrays for each declaration, 
>> having a name like the value and a datatype which fits the data. The 
>> values for each declaration could be referenced via one pointer to all 
>> arrays. The drawback would be, I would have more than a dozen single 
>> arrays?which?I?would?have?to?maintain?each?time.
> 
> It sounds like perhaps you want an array of collections (Collection[]). 
> Values in a collection are variant.
> ["name": "paragraph1", "indentation": 4, "justification": "left", 
> "font": "sans-serif", "size": 12]
> 
> Dim MyCollection as New Collection[]
> 
> Paragraph one could be MyCollection[0], paragraph two, MyCollection[1], 
> etc. This assumes, though, that the paragraphs would have a related 
> context, ie. be in the same document.
> 
> 

Thank you for this idea, this is the way I choose and it proved to be 
the solution for me.

Moreover, I had never really paid attention to Collections, now I know 
they can be of great help. There are some glitches, but I could overcome 
all of them. What surprised me most was that when you do

myCollection = listOfCollections[x]

then myCollection just points to this one listOfCollections[x]. When you 
change something in myCollection, it is simultaneously changed whithin 
the array. So I used

myCollection = listOfCollections[x].Copy()

(beware, you have to use the brackets!), that will be independent.

There is one thing, the documentation for collections is not complete, 
on many pages there is only an error message.

But I got it done, so thank you all for your ideas, maybe next time I 
will try classes :)

Regards
Rolf