[Gambas-user] collection of collection problem

[PICCORO McKAY Lenz]

in the more and more lack of documentation in spanish and differences
respect others languajes (i'm not programer), triying to develop a web page
in gabmas (to large scale) its dificult later to mantain..

just taking a look to the gambas forge at the svn in sourceforge.. for
people that "wants" to contribute its very tedious and in few days interes
are loose quickly... that's my point in the ohter mail..

i now get in understand that gambas force use many alias urls, and has 3
kind of parameters

once its for a main section, that determines the "kind" of software (main
page, forums, wiki or forge)

second its a section of that firts..

the other i cannot understand still

also, why hide the urls? and in the ide its hard to debug due the variable
CGI_SCRIPT are not used in the IDE, due runs in embebed server, rather that
the generated gforge.gambas.cgi program...

or gambas its just for "great programers"?

also there's so many hardcode typing urls

Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com

2017-03-25 17:40 GMT-04:00 Jorge Carrión <shordi at ...626...>:

> Fabian: +1  :)
>
> 2017-03-25 16:51 GMT+01:00 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
>
> > A long thought in bazaar...
> >
> >
> > I think, the first job is to teach a new time to developpers how to
> > develop. There is nothing great in the code i've sended, juste the
> > evidence.
> >
> > I've start learnin coding in gwbasic and qbasic... well not the best
> > to start. Now we have better languages like python, java, c# and
> > i've the impression that taking one hour for making the lacking
> > function,has become something insurmountable (in this case 10 minutes
> > for me).
> >
> > In the past I had no choice, no internet, if I wanted something or if
> > it did not exist, you had to buy it or create it (sometimes find it in
> > a book). Honestly, today I have reproduced so much with Gambas that I
> > think we can almost do everything. What is lacking in Gambas is
> > documentation. Unfortunately, we do not have time to write it because
> > we have grown up and have a lot of work now. All I can do is swing
> > from time to time a spade on the mailing list to help the newcomers to
> > understand the pattern of thought behind Gambas. Because I see that
> > this is also the problem. Whether at the level of the language or at
> > the level of the arrangement of forms, at the level of the event
> > structure (gridview, drawingarea and many other widgets), the choices
> > are quite innovative and destabilizing. Gambas is not there to replace
> > or compete with other languages, it is as in kungfu there are several
> > phylosophy and it is one among others.
> > To summarize it is not the language in itself that must be understood,
> > but the phylsophy of development. For the language, there is the wiki.
> > For phylosophy ... we'll have to bend over.
> >
> > Benoit, had said that language was able to appreciate different types
> > of procedural, object or event programming. But with time I realize
> > that the object / event couple is dominant and that this is our
> > signature somehow.
> >
> > Today it is a coherent mature language (despite the bugs), with
> > coherent libraries.
> >
> > By experience, it is not necessary to copy a code from one language to
> > another, but a concept. What it lacks for me would be a UML
> > integrator, which would make it easier to manipulate the concepts of a
> > project.
> > 
> > I think over time have spotted key points that make Gambas more
> > difficult to digest for developers a bit too pampered.
> >
> > I will take the time to make a document for the helpers to appreciate
> > our philosophy and allow them not to try to model the programming
> > style of other languages in Gambas.
> >
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