[Gambas-user] Newbie IDE

Benoît Minisini gambas at ...1...
Sun Sep 7 13:15:33 CEST 2014


Le 07/09/2014 05:45, John Leake a écrit :
> Hi Benoît,
>
> Thank you for the response.  It is quite amazing what small problems can
> obstruct a newbies progress. My numerous references to M$ below are not
> in any way a criticism of Gambas. I am just vocalising my newbie
> experiences as they happen.

Hi,

You should use the mailing-list instead of just my own e-mail. That way 
all your questions and the answers are archived, and other people may 
have better answers than me too.

>
>>> Could I suggest that an item be added to Preferences/Interface
>
> I have changed Prefs/Interface and it works ok and the option reflects
> the current state correctly on entry. But I am still coming to grips
> with SVN.

I have added what you requested in revision #6456, but the way I want. 
:-). As a button in the IDE toolbar that unhides the menu when it is hidden.

>
> What is the correct uri for /trunk ?

If you don't know how to deal with subversion, read that first:

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/svn

>
>>> 2) I am struggling to create a radio button that has a graphic like a
>>> conventional button but has the behaviour of a radio button.
>
> Thank you, I found it just by trying each similar control in the
> toolbox. I nearly gave up and was beginning to think it was all a waste
> of time.  If I could have searched for Toggle Button I would not have
> started to lay down doubts about the system.
>
>>> 3) Searchable help with variable scope.
>
> As you get older it is difficult to retain lots of detail especially
> when the knowledge domain is unfamiliar. I found the M$ Visual Studio 6
> Enterprise way of help to be very useful.
>
> A) A split screen with search links on the left (ordered by relevance)
> and the retrieved content on the right.
>
> B) A combo box could let you select the scope of the search from say;
> All, Gambas language reference, Gambas examples, Contributed help,
> Locally held documents,  My Reminders,  Everyone’s Reminders, ...
>
> C) Contents, Index, and Search tabs
>
> The Reminders in B) would be fantastic.  I remember with M$ the
> difficulty trying to find the ASCII character table.  It used to
> frustrate me to have to search over and over with different search
> terms. Another really nice feature with M$ is the automatic context
> search that is steered by what is selected or under the cursor when you
> press F1. Also having Example Code in the help can really speed up ones
> progress.
>
> I think an improved help system is likely to reduce the email noise
> quite a lot but more importantly it could help retain newbies that would
> otherwise leave and not come back over the most trivial of annoyances.
>

I agree with yuo, but the help system is "just" a wiki written in 
Gambas. This is the reason why it does not have all the features of the 
MS help system.

And because of lack of time, I can't improve it the way you want. You 
will have to use "Google" to search it.

Of course, if someone comes with an improved help system that is 
compatible with the wiki, everybody will be happy!

Regards,

-- 
Benoît Minisini




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