From bbruen at ...2308...  Mon Sep  1 01:06:01 2014
From: bbruen at ...2308... (B Bruen)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 08:36:01 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to reset a toolbar config?
Message-ID: <20140901083601.d8035c27f77b360d88f31aa2@...2308...>

I have this recurring problem with the gb.form.mdi Toolbar.  For some reason, unknown, I occasionally lose the project config file contents that describe the customised toolbar or those lines get "corrupted".

The original config lines are:
[gb.form.mdi/Toolbars/tbrTasks]
Layout=["$lblFilter","taskfilter0","taskfilter.1","taskfilter.2","taskfilter.3","$lblSort","tasksort.0","$lblSearch","tasksearch.0","task.refresh"]

The corrupted lines are:
[gb.form.mdi/Toolbars/tbrTasks]
Layout=["$lblFilter","taskfilter.1","$lblSort","$lblSearch","tasksearch.0"]

My problem is that there appears to be no way to "reset" the toolbar in the IDE to get the original lines back. I have to manually edit the config file in an external editor.

Is there a way to reset it in the IDE and I just can't find it?


tia
Bruce
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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep  1 01:29:43 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 01:29:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to reset a toolbar config?
In-Reply-To: <20140901083601.d8035c27f77b360d88f31aa2@...2308...>
References: <20140901083601.d8035c27f77b360d88f31aa2@...2308...>
Message-ID: <5403AFE7.8020703@...1...>

Le 01/09/2014 01:06, B Bruen a ?crit :
> I have this recurring problem with the gb.form.mdi Toolbar.  For some reason, unknown, I occasionally lose the project config file contents that describe the customised toolbar or those lines get "corrupted".
>
> The original config lines are:
> [gb.form.mdi/Toolbars/tbrTasks]
> Layout=["$lblFilter","taskfilter0","taskfilter.1","taskfilter.2","taskfilter.3","$lblSort","tasksort.0","$lblSearch","tasksearch.0","task.refresh"]
>
> The corrupted lines are:
> [gb.form.mdi/Toolbars/tbrTasks]
> Layout=["$lblFilter","taskfilter.1","$lblSort","$lblSearch","tasksearch.0"]
>
> My problem is that there appears to be no way to "reset" the toolbar in the IDE to get the original lines back. I have to manually edit the config file in an external editor.
>
> Is there a way to reset it in the IDE and I just can't find it?
>
>
> tia
> Bruce
>

There must be a bug somewhere in the IDE.

Do you more information about when exactly the toolbar configuration is 
corrupted?

Can you send the project?

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From bbruen at ...2308...  Mon Sep  1 02:41:09 2014
From: bbruen at ...2308... (B Bruen)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:11:09 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to reset a toolbar config?
In-Reply-To: <5403AFE7.8020703@...1...>
References: <20140901083601.d8035c27f77b360d88f31aa2@...2308...>
	<5403AFE7.8020703@...1...>
Message-ID: <20140901101109.bfdf0bb4b2166a6df032a7e5@...2308...>

On Mon, 01 Sep 2014 01:29:43 +0200
Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...> wrote:

> Le 01/09/2014 01:06, B Bruen a ?crit :
> > I have this recurring problem with the gb.form.mdi Toolbar.  For some reason, unknown, I occasionally lose the project config file contents that describe the customised toolbar or those lines get "corrupted".
> >
> > The original config lines are:
> > [gb.form.mdi/Toolbars/tbrTasks]
> > Layout=["$lblFilter","taskfilter0","taskfilter.1","taskfilter.2","taskfilter.3","$lblSort","tasksort.0","$lblSearch","tasksearch.0","task.refresh"]
> >
> > The corrupted lines are:
> > [gb.form.mdi/Toolbars/tbrTasks]
> > Layout=["$lblFilter","taskfilter.1","$lblSort","$lblSearch","tasksearch.0"]
> >
> > My problem is that there appears to be no way to "reset" the toolbar in the IDE to get the original lines back. I have to manually edit the config file in an external editor.
> >
> > Is there a way to reset it in the IDE and I just can't find it?
> >
> >
> > tia
> > Bruce
> >
> 
> There must be a bug somewhere in the IDE.
> 
> Do you more information about when exactly the toolbar configuration is 
> corrupted?
> 
> Can you send the project?
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 

I don't think it's the IDE that corrupts it (as I don't think the IDE creates those config entries?)  A couple of theories: maybe running the project through the IDE with debug and setting a custom toolbar layout? or maybe if the executable crashes after (and not related to) setting the custom layout?  But I have not found a true cause as I don't notice the toolbar change until some time later.

The project is too big. I'll try to mock up something that shows it over the next week (I'll be away for a few days).

Other information:
1. The toolbar contains labels, menubuttons, toolbuttons, and a buttonbox. All have actions (except the labels of course) and it is interesting that the labels are always left in the config entry after the corruption happens and I always get one actioned item included and visible in the toolbar, but it has moved to the right hand end of the Layout line (as in the example above).
2. I am fairly sure that it only happens after I have "Configure"d the toolbar while the project is running.  When does the runtime write that config out, when the configure popup is closed or after the project exits?
3. The actions are named by group and default position , e.g. "taskfilter.0" etc.  This does not seem to be an issue though?
4. The Configure popup "Reset" button does not correct the layout after the corruption occurs.  This, I suppose after thinking this through, is the real issue.  How and where does the "Reset" button get its' layout information from? I would have thought that it goes back to the .form file?

B

   


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From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Mon Sep  1 05:19:38 2014
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (Kevin Fishburne)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 23:19:38 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.sdl Music.Play plays high quality wav files too
	slowly
Message-ID: <5403E5CA.4040307@...1887...>

I noticed that wave files that are 96000 Hz, 32-bit float are played too 
slowly. I don't know if this is an SDL bug or what... Audacious, VLC, 
Audacity, etc. play the file correctly. For now I'm downsampling the 
files so they'll play at the correct pitch/speed.

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phone: (770) 853-6271




From abbat.81 at ...787...  Mon Sep  1 12:08:37 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 03:08:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Font style in Printing Example
Message-ID: <1409566117032-47901.post@...3046...>

Hi,

There is "molly-malone.txt" with some tags like: <p>
<br>/

In Gambas it is marked as Html, but how can I set align="center"?

Thanks



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From vuott at ...325...  Mon Sep  1 13:24:50 2014
From: vuott at ...325... (Ru Vuott)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:24:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] R:  Font style in Printing Example
In-Reply-To: <1409566117032-47901.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <1409570690.57084.YahooMailBasic@...3271...>

Hi,

an example with TextEdit:

**************************************
Public Sub Form_Open()

  TextEdit1.RichText = "<P align=center>molly-malone.txt</p>"

End
**************************************

Regards
vuott






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Lun 1/9/14, abbat81 <abbat.81 at ...787...> ha scritto:

 Oggetto: [Gambas-user] Font style in Printing Example
 A: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
 Data: Luned? 1 settembre 2014, 12:08
 
 Hi,
 
 There is "molly-malone.txt" with some tags like: <p>
 <br>/
 
 In Gambas it is marked as Html, but how can I set
 align="center"?
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Mon Sep  1 14:02:47 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 05:02:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] R:  Font style in Printing Example
In-Reply-To: <1409570690.57084.YahooMailBasic@...3271...>
References: <1409566117032-47901.post@...3046...>
	<1409570690.57084.YahooMailBasic@...3271...>
Message-ID: <1409572967196-47903.post@...3046...>

It must be joke 

Thanks anyway



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From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep  1 15:30:46 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 15:30:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambaswiki.org driving me nuts
Message-ID: <20140901133046.GB733@...2774...>

Hi,

some time ago I noticed that gambaswiki.org does not work for me sometimes.
This happens every couple days and so this very moment again.

What I do is:
 - enter a URL, like http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp in this case.
 - hovering a link (to the gb component), my browser says it directs
   to http://www.gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/comp/gb which is wrong as
   it contains the "comp" part twice.

This happens for _all_ the links on this page. Also, the "up arrow" image
found in the top bar of the site on the left does not show up. Looking at
the URL which my browser tries to load shows: http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/up.png
where again the "comp" part is one too many.

Recently someone pointed out that he finds it rather strange that I type
the entire URLs for most pages I know the schema of instead of googling or
navigating to them, i.e. I will enter

  http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/<comp>/<class>/<symbol>

instead of visiting gambaswiki.org and clicking my way through to the
symbol documentation. (I don't think this is too unusual...?)

Maybe it has something to do with it? But note that it happens only once
in a while. After I visited the wiki once and managed to get good pages
again, the effect does not occur until some days after.

I would be really glad if someone gets an idea of what might be happening
now.

Regards,
Tobi

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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Mon Sep  1 16:43:22 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 07:43:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use WBrowser.Print(True)
Message-ID: <1409582602450-47905.post@...3046...>

Hi,

I want to print HTML by "WBrowser.Print(True)"

but I get:

"Unknown symbol 'Print' in class in WebView"

WebVew is created:

Private WBrowser As WebView
WBrowser = New WebView(FPreview)

How to fix it to print HTML ?

Thanks



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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep  1 19:42:51 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:42:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambaswiki.org driving me nuts
In-Reply-To: <20140901133046.GB733@...2774...>
References: <20140901133046.GB733@...2774...>
Message-ID: <5404B01B.5030607@...1...>

Le 01/09/2014 15:30, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> some time ago I noticed that gambaswiki.org does not work for me sometimes.
> This happens every couple days and so this very moment again.
>
> What I do is:
>   - enter a URL, like http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp in this case.
>   - hovering a link (to the gb component), my browser says it directs
>     to http://www.gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/comp/gb which is wrong as
>     it contains the "comp" part twice.
>

If I enter that URL in my Firefox, all links are correct.

Which browser do you use?

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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep  1 19:44:02 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:44:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambaswiki.org driving me nuts
In-Reply-To: <5404B01B.5030607@...1...>
References: <20140901133046.GB733@...2774...>
	<5404B01B.5030607@...1...>
Message-ID: <5404B062.2050707@...1...>

Le 01/09/2014 19:42, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> Le 01/09/2014 15:30, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> some time ago I noticed that gambaswiki.org does not work for me
>> sometimes.
>> This happens every couple days and so this very moment again.
>>
>> What I do is:
>>   - enter a URL, like http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp in this case.
>>   - hovering a link (to the gb component), my browser says it directs
>>     to http://www.gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/comp/gb which is wrong as
>>     it contains the "comp" part twice.
>>
>
> If I enter that URL in my Firefox, all links are correct.
>
> Which browser do you use?
>

OK, I think I get it: the links are wrong if you type:

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/

with the slash at the end!

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From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep  1 21:51:49 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 21:51:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambaswiki.org driving me nuts
In-Reply-To: <5404B062.2050707@...1...>
References: <20140901133046.GB733@...2774...>
	<5404B01B.5030607@...1...>
	<5404B062.2050707@...1...>
Message-ID: <20140901195148.GC733@...2774...>

On Mon, 01 Sep 2014, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 01/09/2014 19:42, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > Le 01/09/2014 15:30, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> some time ago I noticed that gambaswiki.org does not work for me
> >> sometimes.
> >> This happens every couple days and so this very moment again.
> >>
> >> What I do is:
> >>   - enter a URL, like http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp in this case.
> >>   - hovering a link (to the gb component), my browser says it directs
> >>     to http://www.gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/comp/gb which is wrong as
> >>     it contains the "comp" part twice.
> >>
> >
> > If I enter that URL in my Firefox, all links are correct.
> >
> > Which browser do you use?
> >
> 
> OK, I think I get it: the links are wrong if you type:
> 
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/
> 
> with the slash at the end!
> 

Yes, right! I can reproduce it this way deliberately. Great observation. It
must be something about <%/%> in the WebPages, right?

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From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep  1 22:01:29 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 22:01:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use WBrowser.Print(True)
In-Reply-To: <1409582602450-47905.post@...3046...>
References: <1409582602450-47905.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <20140901200129.GD733@...2774...>

On Mon, 01 Sep 2014, abbat81 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to print HTML by "WBrowser.Print(True)"
> 
> but I get:
> 
> "Unknown symbol 'Print' in class in WebView"
> 

Yes, because there is no such thing as a Print method in the WebView class.

> WebVew is created:
> 
> Private WBrowser As WebView
> WBrowser = New WebView(FPreview)
> 
> How to fix it to print HTML ?
> 

Assuming you want to print the _rendition_ of the HTML, I think you can do
it by

  Dim hPrinter As New Printer

  If hPrinter.Configure() Then Return
  WBrowser.Frame.Print(hPrinter)

Regards,
Tobi

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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep  2 00:03:38 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 00:03:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambaswiki.org driving me nuts
In-Reply-To: <20140901195148.GC733@...2774...>
References: <20140901133046.GB733@...2774...>	<5404B01B.5030607@...1...>	<5404B062.2050707@...1...>
	<20140901195148.GC733@...2774...>
Message-ID: <5404ED3A.5060808@...1...>

Le 01/09/2014 21:51, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
>> OK, I think I get it: the links are wrong if you type:
>>
>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/
>>
>> with the slash at the end!
>>
>
> Yes, right! I can reproduce it this way deliberately. Great observation. It
> must be something about <%/%> in the WebPages, right?
>

No, it was a bug in the web server. I fixed it by a workaround in the 
gb.web component.

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From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Tue Sep  2 05:17:28 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:17:28 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] R: Font style in Printing Example
In-Reply-To: <1409572967196-47903.post@...3046...>
References: <1409566117032-47901.post@...3046...>
	<1409570690.57084.YahooMailBasic@...3271...>
	<1409572967196-47903.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL5g_ELGE-_osJRMS72JM47kd2nQc0S8=8LScJKE1cR6Zw@...627...>

Abbat81,

You really didn't give any details about your text. Is the text being
displayed as a web page or in a gui control? If a control which one? Or is
the text being used in a console app?

Give a few more details or attach your project and people can help you
better.




On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:02 AM, abbat81 <abbat.81 at ...787...> wrote:

> It must be joke
>
> Thanks anyway
>
>
>
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From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Tue Sep  2 05:18:29 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:18:29 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to use WBrowser.Print(True)
In-Reply-To: <20140901200129.GD733@...2774...>
References: <1409582602450-47905.post@...3046...>
	<20140901200129.GD733@...2774...>
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL7ARXrYEtGB8mVmsMqF6Mf7XwXJ+dDKidwapBp2s6rz4w@...627...>

OK, the thread was split so I didn't see this earlier. Sorry.


On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Tobias Boege <taboege at ...626...> wrote:

> On Mon, 01 Sep 2014, abbat81 wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to print HTML by "WBrowser.Print(True)"
> >
> > but I get:
> >
> > "Unknown symbol 'Print' in class in WebView"
> >
>
> Yes, because there is no such thing as a Print method in the WebView class.
>
> > WebVew is created:
> >
> > Private WBrowser As WebView
> > WBrowser = New WebView(FPreview)
> >
> > How to fix it to print HTML ?
> >
>
> Assuming you want to print the _rendition_ of the HTML, I think you can do
> it by
>
>   Dim hPrinter As New Printer
>
>   If hPrinter.Configure() Then Return
>   WBrowser.Frame.Print(hPrinter)
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>
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>
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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Tue Sep  2 09:33:58 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 00:33:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] R: Font style in Printing Example
In-Reply-To: <CAGwqEL5g_ELGE-_osJRMS72JM47kd2nQc0S8=8LScJKE1cR6Zw@...627...>
References: <1409566117032-47901.post@...3046...>
	<1409570690.57084.YahooMailBasic@...3271...>
	<1409572967196-47903.post@...3046...>
	<CAGwqEL5g_ELGE-_osJRMS72JM47kd2nQc0S8=8LScJKE1cR6Zw@...627...>
Message-ID: <1409643238769-47913.post@...3046...>

Randall,

I didn't give any attachment because this is the Example "Printing", which
everybody can open in his own Gambas.

Thanks in advance.




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From gambas at ...2524...  Tue Sep  2 12:20:29 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 10:20:29 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 554 in gambas: Cannot seem to catch an error
 from a Exec[] process anymore
Message-ID: <0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Status: New
Owner: ----
Labels: Version Type-Bug Priority-Medium OpSys-Any Dist-Any Arch-Any  
Desktop-Any GUI-Any

New issue 554 by r... at ...1740...: Cannot seem to catch an error from a  
Exec[] process anymore
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=554

1) Describe the problem.

If an executed command isn't found the error cannot be catched with 'catch'  
or suppressed with 'try' (so it seems)

2) Give information about your system. Use the 'System information' menu in
the Gambas IDE, and paste the result there.

[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.13.0-35-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
Desktop=GNOME
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_US.UTF-8
Memory=7953M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4

3) Provide a little project that reproduces the bug or the crash.
Attached

4) If your project needs a database, try to provide it, or part of it.

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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Tue Sep  2 14:09:00 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 05:09:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView -> Image/Picture.Save
Message-ID: <1409659740002-47916.post@...3046...>

Hi,

Is it possible to transfer a WebView content to Image or Picture?

Thanks



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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep  2 14:58:46 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 14:58:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView -> Image/Picture.Save
In-Reply-To: <1409659740002-47916.post@...3046...>
References: <1409659740002-47916.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <5405BF06.4030501@...1...>

Le 02/09/2014 14:09, abbat81 a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to transfer a WebView content to Image or Picture?
>
> Thanks
>

Yes, by using the MyWebView.Document.Paint() method.

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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Tue Sep  2 16:45:19 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 07:45:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView can not Reload/Refresh
Message-ID: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>

Hi,

AIfter once WebView loaded a content I can't renew those content which is
changed.




Public Sub Button1_Click()

    Webview_Form.Show
    WebView1.Html = " <file:///home/admin/999.jpg> " 

End


Then:
Webview_Form.Close

Then:
Change the "999.jpg"

Then again:
Button1_Click()

And here we have an old image, not new, just changed.

How can I make to renew content after Form_Close?

Thanks






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From vuott at ...325...  Tue Sep  2 17:50:48 2014
From: vuott at ...325... (Ru Vuott)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 16:50:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView -> Image/Picture.Save
In-Reply-To: <5405BF06.4030501@...1...>
Message-ID: <1409673048.14637.YahooMailBasic@...3268...>


> using the MyWebView.Document.Paint() method.
 

...guide on line says "Sub Paint ( [ Clip As Rect] ) "

If I write:

   MyWebView.Document.Paint(rect(0, 0, 200, 200))

I obtain this error:

" Type mismatch: wanted Rect], got Rect instead "


What's  Rect]  ?

...is it a bug ?

Regards
vuottttt



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep  2 18:34:37 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 18:34:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView -> Image/Picture.Save
In-Reply-To: <1409673048.14637.YahooMailBasic@...3268...>
References: <1409673048.14637.YahooMailBasic@...3268...>
Message-ID: <5405F19D.2090302@...1...>

Le 02/09/2014 17:50, Ru Vuott a ?crit :
>
>> using the MyWebView.Document.Paint() method.
>
>
> ...guide on line says "Sub Paint ( [ Clip As Rect] ) "
>
> If I write:
>
>     MyWebView.Document.Paint(rect(0, 0, 200, 200))
>
> I obtain this error:
>
> " Type mismatch: wanted Rect], got Rect instead"
>
>
> What's  Rect]  ?
>
> ...is it a bug ?
>
> Regards
> vuottttt
>

Oops, yes. It is fixed in revision #6444.

Regards,


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From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Tue Sep  2 19:59:00 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:59:00 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView can not Reload/Refresh
In-Reply-To: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>
References: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL6RDs1Mw86W5JmYNu2YafP9iqT6Q99=hDBoSw5CzEqZyQ@...627...>

Is the page being cached? If so, you will need to empty the cache to see
the new content.


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:45 AM, abbat81 <abbat.81 at ...787...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> AIfter once WebView loaded a content I can't renew those content which is
> changed.
>
>
>
>
> Public Sub Button1_Click()
>
>     Webview_Form.Show
>     WebView1.Html = " <file:///home/admin/999.jpg> "
>
> End
>
>
> Then:
> Webview_Form.Close
>
> Then:
> Change the "999.jpg"
>
> Then again:
> Button1_Click()
>
> And here we have an old image, not new, just changed.
>
> How can I make to renew content after Form_Close?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From vuott at ...325...  Tue Sep  2 21:09:48 2014
From: vuott at ...325... (Ru Vuott)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 20:09:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView -> Image/Picture.Save
In-Reply-To: <5405F19D.2090302@...1...>
Message-ID: <1409684988.15302.YahooMailBasic@...3274...>

Well, Beno?t, now it works.

bye
vuott


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Mar 2/9/14, Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...> ha scritto:

 Oggetto: Re: [Gambas-user] WebView -> Image/Picture.Save
 A: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
 Data: Marted? 2 settembre 2014, 18:34
 
 Le 02/09/2014 17:50, Ru
 Vuott a ?crit :
 >
 >> using the MyWebView.Document.Paint()
 method.
 >
 >
 > ...guide on line says "Sub Paint ( [
 Clip As Rect] ) "
 >
 > If I write:
 >
 >?
 ???MyWebView.Document.Paint(rect(0, 0, 200,
 200))
 >
 > I obtain
 this error:
 >
 > "
 Type mismatch: wanted Rect], got Rect instead"
 >
 >
 >
 What's? Rect]? ?
 >
 > ...is it a bug ?
 >
 > Regards
 > vuottttt
 >
 
 Oops,
 yes. It is fixed in revision #6444.
 
 Regards,
 
 
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From sbungay at ...3301...  Tue Sep  2 22:42:24 2014
From: sbungay at ...3301... (Stephen)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:42:24 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
	and printing the results...
Message-ID: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>

   Has anyone got some good documentation on how to use a Drawing Area, 
quite frankly I've gone cross-eyed trying to make sense of it by parsing 
the paint example.

Steve.



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Tue Sep  2 23:30:38 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 00:30:38 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
	and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>

FMain contains subs named Example## (where ## are numbers).
These subs are executed in Draw event "DrawingArea1_Draw()", with command
Object.Call(Me, $sFunctionName). So that Example1 is same as "Arc" ,
Example2 is "Arc negative", Example3 is "Clip", etc.

You can write all the content of those subs directly into draw event.

Here are the paint commands:
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/paint

And here is more about the drawing area:
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/drawingarea

I'm not sure what is the problem exactly, so, give some more information
(code?) on what you are trying to do and how it fails (error messages)?


Jussi



On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Stephen <sbungay at ...3301...> wrote:

>    Has anyone got some good documentation on how to use a Drawing Area,
> quite frankly I've gone cross-eyed trying to make sense of it by parsing
> the paint example.
>
> Steve.
>
>
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From sbungay at ...3301...  Tue Sep  2 23:58:03 2014
From: sbungay at ...3301... (Stephen)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 17:58:03 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
 and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>
Message-ID: <54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>

I guess it is the need to use the draw event in order to do anything 
with the drawing area that had me spun. I think in terms of methods, 
properties and events, but I do not think in terms of events being the 
very thing that actually does the work.

I'm thinking of it now in terms of Macros, using the Object.Call(me, 
$sFunctionName) treats the code in $sFunctionName like a Macro, (am I on 
the right track?) Flexible & powerful yes. Intuitive in it's usage, not 
so much.

What I want to do is use a drawing area to create a matrix of images & 
Text to be printed out on business card stock (Avery 5371). I *think* I 
am begining to see how this can be done... but it is all still somewhat 
murky. If I can get the images arranged in the DrawingArea then the next 
step is to persist the DrawingArea to a file as a PNG, or perhaps a PDF 
(I have no clue how I'm going to do that yet), and then spool that file 
out the the printer using a shell command (unless there is a better way 
to do it from within GAMBAS).

One of the things that really confused me was the paint.reset command 
telling me it had no device.... ummm... no "device"? To me a device is a 
piece of hardware, a printer, a modem, a screen, keyboard, mouse, 
soundcard, NIC, Com port etc. It didn't make sense to me and I saw no 
way to give paint.reset any kind of parameter to point it to the object 
on which it could be used. It really threw me, until I realized that 
Paint.Reset when called from within the DRAW event of a drawing area 
gave it context. I fully expected to use the drawing area as an object, 
something like DrawingArea1.reset. Anyway I'm past that now, and busy 
documenting my education. BTW, how does reset differ from clear?

On 09/02/2014 05:30 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> FMain contains subs named Example## (where ## are numbers).
> These subs are executed in Draw event "DrawingArea1_Draw()", with command
> Object.Call(Me, $sFunctionName). So that Example1 is same as "Arc" ,
> Example2 is "Arc negative", Example3 is "Clip", etc.
>
> You can write all the content of those subs directly into draw event.
>
> Here are the paint commands:
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/paint
>
> And here is more about the drawing area:
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/drawingarea
>
> I'm not sure what is the problem exactly, so, give some more information
> (code?) on what you are trying to do and how it fails (error messages)?
>
>
> Jussi
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Stephen<sbungay at ...3301...>  wrote:
>
>>     Has anyone got some good documentation on how to use a Drawing Area,
>> quite frankly I've gone cross-eyed trying to make sense of it by parsing
>> the paint example.
>>
>> Steve.
>>
>>
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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep  3 00:22:20 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 01:22:20 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
	and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>
	<54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>

> I guess it is the need to use the draw event in order to do anything
> with the drawing area that had me spun. I think in terms of methods,
> properties and events, but I do not think in terms of events being the
> very thing that actually does the work.
>

Draw event is called every time drawingarea needs to be drawn. Thus it is
where you put the drawing commands.

But you can change this behavior by setting Cached property to True.
Then you start painting by determining painting device (Gambas cannot know
where to draw, if you are not in specific drawing event)
Paint.Begin(hNameOfPaintingDevice) and end with Paint.End.
See the documentation.




> I'm thinking of it now in terms of Macros, using the Object.Call(me,
> $sFunctionName) treats the code in $sFunctionName like a Macro, (am I on
> the right track?) Flexible & powerful yes. Intuitive in it's usage, not
> so much.
>

This only enables you to use string value to call a function. There are
many alternatives for this.




> One of the things that really confused me was the paint.reset command
> telling me it had no device.... ummm... no "device"? To me a device is a
> piece of hardware, a printer, a modem, a screen, keyboard, mouse,
> soundcard, NIC, Com port etc.


In Unix/Linux device has bit broader meaning, see example /dev/null or
/dev/random. Not all devices are physical devices.




> BTW, how does reset differ from clear?
>

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/drawingarea/clear
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/paint/reset



Jussi


From sbungay at ...3301...  Wed Sep  3 01:05:45 2014
From: sbungay at ...3301... (Stephen)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 19:05:45 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
 and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>	<54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>
Message-ID: <54064D49.7040608@...3301...>

On 09/02/2014 06:22 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>> I guess it is the need to use the draw event in order to do anything
>> with the drawing area that had me spun. I think in terms of methods,
>> properties and events, but I do not think in terms of events being the
>> very thing that actually does the work.
>>
> Draw event is called every time drawingarea needs to be drawn.
    Yes, so we force the event by the refresh method. I'm slowly making 
progress... documenting things as I go. Thank you taking the time to help.

> Thus it is
> where you put the drawing commands.
>
> But you can change this behavior by setting Cached property to True.
> Then you start painting by determining painting device (Gambas cannot know
> where to draw, if you are not in specific drawing event)
> Paint.Begin(hNameOfPaintingDevice) and end with Paint.End.
> See the documentation.
>
>
>
>
>> I'm thinking of it now in terms of Macros, using the Object.Call(me,
>> $sFunctionName) treats the code in $sFunctionName like a Macro, (am I on
>> the right track?) Flexible&  powerful yes. Intuitive in it's usage, not
>> so much.
>>
> This only enables you to use string value to call a function. There are
> many alternatives for this.
>
>
>
>
>> One of the things that really confused me was the paint.reset command
>> telling me it had no device.... ummm... no "device"? To me a device is a
>> piece of hardware, a printer, a modem, a screen, keyboard, mouse,
>> soundcard, NIC, Com port etc.
>
> In Unix/Linux device has bit broader meaning, see example /dev/null or
> /dev/random. Not all devices are physical devices.
>
>
>
>
>> BTW, how does reset differ from clear?
>>
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/drawingarea/clear
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/paint/reset
>
>
>
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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Wed Sep  3 10:01:15 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 01:01:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Webview history cache
In-Reply-To: <201001060956.24859.gambas@...1...>
References: <201001061709.31231.rterry@...1946...>
	<201001060956.24859.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1409731275306-47928.post@...3046...>

"Thanks" for:

"Shell "rm -rf " & Shell$(WebSettings.Cache.Path) &/ "*" Wait"

Now, I've lost all my data in ~/*

....crazy day((((((((((((((((((



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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  3 11:27:27 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:27:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Webview history cache
In-Reply-To: <1409731275306-47928.post@...3046...>
References: <201001061709.31231.rterry@...1946...>	<201001060956.24859.gambas@...1...>
	<1409731275306-47928.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <5406DEFF.20304@...1...>

Le 03/09/2014 10:01, abbat81 a ?crit :
> "Thanks" for:
>
> "Shell "rm -rf " & Shell$(WebSettings.Cache.Path) &/ "*" Wait"
>
> Now, I've lost all my data in ~/*
>
> ....crazy day((((((((((((((((((
>

Oh my God, I'm sorry!!! It's all my fault, because the 
WebSettings.Cache.Path is not initialized apparently (i.e. there is no 
cache by default). :-/

I will fix that so that it does not occur for other people...

Sorry again.

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From sbungay at ...3301...  Wed Sep  3 12:39:06 2014
From: sbungay at ...3301... (Stephen)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 06:39:06 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
 and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <54064D49.7040608@...3301...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>	<54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>
	<54064D49.7040608@...3301...>
Message-ID: <5406EFCA.8040407@...3301...>

   Attached is a sample project that dynamically instantiates 10 
business card sized DrawingAreas within a Panel on a forum. The form 
represents a North American letter-sized sheet of paper. Since the Draw 
event must be used to draw within each of the Drawing areas, and the the 
Drawing Areas are brought into existence at run-time, the question is 
how to draw something on them?

   The actual project uses a database to dynamically create (or 
re-create) QR or Barcode images.

Steve.

On 09/02/2014 07:05 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 09/02/2014 06:22 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>>> I guess it is the need to use the draw event in order to do anything
>>> with the drawing area that had me spun. I think in terms of methods,
>>> properties and events, but I do not think in terms of events being the
>>> very thing that actually does the work.
>>>
>> Draw event is called every time drawingarea needs to be drawn.
>      Yes, so we force the event by the refresh method. I'm slowly making
> progress... documenting things as I go. Thank you taking the time to help.
>
>> Thus it is
>> where you put the drawing commands.
>>
>> But you can change this behavior by setting Cached property to True.
>> Then you start painting by determining painting device (Gambas cannot know
>> where to draw, if you are not in specific drawing event)
>> Paint.Begin(hNameOfPaintingDevice) and end with Paint.End.
>> See the documentation.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'm thinking of it now in terms of Macros, using the Object.Call(me,
>>> $sFunctionName) treats the code in $sFunctionName like a Macro, (am I on
>>> the right track?) Flexible&   powerful yes. Intuitive in it's usage, not
>>> so much.
>>>
>> This only enables you to use string value to call a function. There are
>> many alternatives for this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> One of the things that really confused me was the paint.reset command
>>> telling me it had no device.... ummm... no "device"? To me a device is a
>>> piece of hardware, a printer, a modem, a screen, keyboard, mouse,
>>> soundcard, NIC, Com port etc.
>> In Unix/Linux device has bit broader meaning, see example /dev/null or
>> /dev/random. Not all devices are physical devices.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> BTW, how does reset differ from clear?
>>>
>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/drawingarea/clear
>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/paint/reset
>>
>>
>>
>> Jussi
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Kindest Regards
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Smarts On Site Information Systems

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From vuott at ...325...  Wed Sep  3 16:15:51 2014
From: vuott at ...325... (Ru Vuott)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 15:15:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] ERROR with revision 6446  !
Message-ID: <1409753751.87526.YahooMailBasic@...3268...>

Hello,

with revision 6446 I obtained this error:

****************************
make[5]: Entering directory `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4/src/webkit'
  CXX      gb_qt4_webkit_la-cwebsettings.lo
cwebsettings.cpp: In function 'void WebSettingsCache_Path(void*, void*)':
cwebsettings.cpp:196:36: error: 'struct GB_INTERFACE::<anonymous>' has no member named 'Home'
   QString root = QString(GB.System.Home());
                                    ^
cwebsettings.cpp: In function 'void WebSettingsCache_Clear(void*, void*)':
cwebsettings.cpp:249:5: error: 'struct GB_INTERFACE' has no member named 'BrowseDirectory'
  GB.BrowseDirectory(_cache_path, NULL, remove_file);
     ^
make[5]: *** [gb_qt4_webkit_la-cwebsettings.lo] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4/src/webkit'
make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk'
make: *** [all] Error 2

***************************************************************

Regards
vuott



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  3 16:33:36 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:33:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] ERROR with revision 6446  !
In-Reply-To: <1409753751.87526.YahooMailBasic@...3268...>
References: <1409753751.87526.YahooMailBasic@...3268...>
Message-ID: <540726C0.9070401@...1...>

Le 03/09/2014 16:15, Ru Vuott a ?crit :
> Hello,
>
> with revision 6446 I obtained this error:
>
> ****************************
> make[5]: Entering directory `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4/src/webkit'
>    CXX      gb_qt4_webkit_la-cwebsettings.lo
> cwebsettings.cpp: In function 'void WebSettingsCache_Path(void*, void*)':
> cwebsettings.cpp:196:36: error: 'struct GB_INTERFACE::<anonymous>' has no member named 'Home'
>     QString root = QString(GB.System.Home());
>                                      ^
> cwebsettings.cpp: In function 'void WebSettingsCache_Clear(void*, void*)':
> cwebsettings.cpp:249:5: error: 'struct GB_INTERFACE' has no member named 'BrowseDirectory'
>    GB.BrowseDirectory(_cache_path, NULL, remove_file);
>       ^
> make[5]: *** [gb_qt4_webkit_la-cwebsettings.lo] Error 1
> make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4/src/webkit'
> make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
> make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4'
> make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
> ***************************************************************
>
> Regards
> vuott
>

Fixed in revision #6447.

Regards,


-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From sbungay at ...3301...  Wed Sep  3 17:14:12 2014
From: sbungay at ...3301... (Stephen)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:14:12 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
 and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <5406EFCA.8040407@...3301...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>	<54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>	<54064D49.7040608@...3301...>
	<5406EFCA.8040407@...3301...>
Message-ID: <54073044.9030002@...3301...>

   Typographical error in the code (not that it is causing a problem). 
This line

   mDrawingAreaMatrix[X] = NEW DrawingArea(Panel1) AS "Card" & CInt(X)

CInt(X) is redundant and not at all what I was thinking about when I 
typed that line. It should more properly read;

   mDrawingAreaMatrix[X] = NEW DrawingArea(Panel1) AS "Card" & CStr(X)

   I'm beginning to think that what I am trying to accomplish is not 
possible. How can a Draw event that is not in the compile-time source be 
accessed during run-time?

On 09/03/2014 06:39 AM, Stephen wrote:
>   Attached is a sample project that dynamically instantiates 10 
> business card sized DrawingAreas within a Panel on a forum. The form 
> represents a North American letter-sized sheet of paper. Since the 
> Draw event must be used to draw within each of the Drawing areas, and 
> the the Drawing Areas are brought into existence at run-time, the 
> question is how to draw something on them?
>
>   The actual project uses a database to dynamically create (or 
> re-create) QR or Barcode images.
>
> Steve.
>
> On 09/02/2014 07:05 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> On 09/02/2014 06:22 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>>>> I guess it is the need to use the draw event in order to do anything
>>>> with the drawing area that had me spun. I think in terms of methods,
>>>> properties and events, but I do not think in terms of events being the
>>>> very thing that actually does the work.
>>>>
>>> Draw event is called every time drawingarea needs to be drawn.
>>      Yes, so we force the event by the refresh method. I'm slowly making
>> progress... documenting things as I go. Thank you taking the time to 
>> help.
>>
>>> Thus it is
>>> where you put the drawing commands.
>>>
>>> But you can change this behavior by setting Cached property to True.
>>> Then you start painting by determining painting device (Gambas 
>>> cannot know
>>> where to draw, if you are not in specific drawing event)
>>> Paint.Begin(hNameOfPaintingDevice) and end with Paint.End.
>>> See the documentation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of it now in terms of Macros, using the Object.Call(me,
>>>> $sFunctionName) treats the code in $sFunctionName like a Macro, (am 
>>>> I on
>>>> the right track?) Flexible&   powerful yes. Intuitive in it's 
>>>> usage, not
>>>> so much.
>>>>
>>> This only enables you to use string value to call a function. There are
>>> many alternatives for this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> One of the things that really confused me was the paint.reset command
>>>> telling me it had no device.... ummm... no "device"? To me a device 
>>>> is a
>>>> piece of hardware, a printer, a modem, a screen, keyboard, mouse,
>>>> soundcard, NIC, Com port etc.
>>> In Unix/Linux device has bit broader meaning, see example /dev/null or
>>> /dev/random. Not all devices are physical devices.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> BTW, how does reset differ from clear?
>>>>
>>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/drawingarea/clear
>>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/paint/reset
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jussi
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>
>>> Slashdot TV.
>>> Video for Nerds.  Stuff that matters.
>>> http://tv.slashdot.org/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Gambas-user mailing list
>>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> http://tv.slashdot.org/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user


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Smarts On Site Information Systems



From sbungay at ...3301...  Wed Sep  3 17:18:33 2014
From: sbungay at ...3301... (Stephen)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:18:33 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
 and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <54073044.9030002@...3301...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>	<54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>	<54064D49.7040608@...3301...>	<5406EFCA.8040407@...3301...>
	<54073044.9030002@...3301...>
Message-ID: <54073149.6080601@...3301...>

Paint.Begin and use cached mode? Trying that now.

On 09/03/2014 11:14 AM, Stephen wrote:
>     Typographical error in the code (not that it is causing a problem).
> This line
>
>     mDrawingAreaMatrix[X] = NEW DrawingArea(Panel1) AS "Card"&  CInt(X)
>
> CInt(X) is redundant and not at all what I was thinking about when I
> typed that line. It should more properly read;
>
>     mDrawingAreaMatrix[X] = NEW DrawingArea(Panel1) AS "Card"&  CStr(X)
>
>     I'm beginning to think that what I am trying to accomplish is not
> possible. How can a Draw event that is not in the compile-time source be
> accessed during run-time?
>
> On 09/03/2014 06:39 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>    Attached is a sample project that dynamically instantiates 10
>> business card sized DrawingAreas within a Panel on a forum. The form
>> represents a North American letter-sized sheet of paper. Since the
>> Draw event must be used to draw within each of the Drawing areas, and
>> the the Drawing Areas are brought into existence at run-time, the
>> question is how to draw something on them?
>>
>>    The actual project uses a database to dynamically create (or
>> re-create) QR or Barcode images.
>>
>> Steve.
>>
>> On 09/02/2014 07:05 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 09/02/2014 06:22 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>>>>> I guess it is the need to use the draw event in order to do anything
>>>>> with the drawing area that had me spun. I think in terms of methods,
>>>>> properties and events, but I do not think in terms of events being the
>>>>> very thing that actually does the work.
>>>>>
>>>> Draw event is called every time drawingarea needs to be drawn.
>>>       Yes, so we force the event by the refresh method. I'm slowly making
>>> progress... documenting things as I go. Thank you taking the time to
>>> help.
>>>
>>>> Thus it is
>>>> where you put the drawing commands.
>>>>
>>>> But you can change this behavior by setting Cached property to True.
>>>> Then you start painting by determining painting device (Gambas
>>>> cannot know
>>>> where to draw, if you are not in specific drawing event)
>>>> Paint.Begin(hNameOfPaintingDevice) and end with Paint.End.
>>>> See the documentation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking of it now in terms of Macros, using the Object.Call(me,
>>>>> $sFunctionName) treats the code in $sFunctionName like a Macro, (am
>>>>> I on
>>>>> the right track?) Flexible&    powerful yes. Intuitive in it's
>>>>> usage, not
>>>>> so much.
>>>>>
>>>> This only enables you to use string value to call a function. There are
>>>> many alternatives for this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> One of the things that really confused me was the paint.reset command
>>>>> telling me it had no device.... ummm... no "device"? To me a device
>>>>> is a
>>>>> piece of hardware, a printer, a modem, a screen, keyboard, mouse,
>>>>> soundcard, NIC, Com port etc.
>>>> In Unix/Linux device has bit broader meaning, see example /dev/null or
>>>> /dev/random. Not all devices are physical devices.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> BTW, how does reset differ from clear?
>>>>>
>>>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/drawingarea/clear
>>>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/paint/reset
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jussi
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Slashdot TV.
>>>> Video for Nerds.  Stuff that matters.
>>>> http://tv.slashdot.org/
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Gambas-user mailing list
>>>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Slashdot TV.
>> Video for Nerds.  Stuff that matters.
>> http://tv.slashdot.org/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


-- 
Kindest Regards
Stephen A. Bungay, Prop.
Smarts On Site Information Systems




From sbungay at ...3301...  Wed Sep  3 17:28:59 2014
From: sbungay at ...3301... (Stephen)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:28:59 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
 and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <54073149.6080601@...3301...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>	<54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>	<54064D49.7040608@...3301...>	<5406EFCA.8040407@...3301...>	<54073044.9030002@...3301...>
	<54073149.6080601@...3301...>
Message-ID: <540733BB.3000208@...3301...>

   Uh huh. It figures, almost four hours after the initial post, 
frustration levels climbing, I sent that email then the solution hits me 
square between the eyes.

Yes use cached mode.

On 09/03/2014 11:18 AM, Stephen wrote:
> Paint.Begin and use cached mode? Trying that now.
>
> On 09/03/2014 11:14 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>      Typographical error in the code (not that it is causing a problem).
>> This line
>>
>>      mDrawingAreaMatrix[X] = NEW DrawingArea(Panel1) AS "Card"&   CInt(X)
>>
>> CInt(X) is redundant and not at all what I was thinking about when I
>> typed that line. It should more properly read;
>>
>>      mDrawingAreaMatrix[X] = NEW DrawingArea(Panel1) AS "Card"&   CStr(X)
>>
>>      I'm beginning to think that what I am trying to accomplish is not
>> possible. How can a Draw event that is not in the compile-time source be
>> accessed during run-time?
>>
>> On 09/03/2014 06:39 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>>     Attached is a sample project that dynamically instantiates 10
>>> business card sized DrawingAreas within a Panel on a forum. The form
>>> represents a North American letter-sized sheet of paper. Since the
>>> Draw event must be used to draw within each of the Drawing areas, and
>>> the the Drawing Areas are brought into existence at run-time, the
>>> question is how to draw something on them?
>>>
>>>     The actual project uses a database to dynamically create (or
>>> re-create) QR or Barcode images.
>>>
>>> Steve.
>>>
>>> On 09/02/2014 07:05 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>>> On 09/02/2014 06:22 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>>>>>> I guess it is the need to use the draw event in order to do anything
>>>>>> with the drawing area that had me spun. I think in terms of methods,
>>>>>> properties and events, but I do not think in terms of events being the
>>>>>> very thing that actually does the work.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Draw event is called every time drawingarea needs to be drawn.
>>>>        Yes, so we force the event by the refresh method. I'm slowly making
>>>> progress... documenting things as I go. Thank you taking the time to
>>>> help.
>>>>
>>>>> Thus it is
>>>>> where you put the drawing commands.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you can change this behavior by setting Cached property to True.
>>>>> Then you start painting by determining painting device (Gambas
>>>>> cannot know
>>>>> where to draw, if you are not in specific drawing event)
>>>>> Paint.Begin(hNameOfPaintingDevice) and end with Paint.End.
>>>>> See the documentation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking of it now in terms of Macros, using the Object.Call(me,
>>>>>> $sFunctionName) treats the code in $sFunctionName like a Macro, (am
>>>>>> I on
>>>>>> the right track?) Flexible&     powerful yes. Intuitive in it's
>>>>>> usage, not
>>>>>> so much.
>>>>>>
>>>>> This only enables you to use string value to call a function. There are
>>>>> many alternatives for this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the things that really confused me was the paint.reset command
>>>>>> telling me it had no device.... ummm... no "device"? To me a device
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> piece of hardware, a printer, a modem, a screen, keyboard, mouse,
>>>>>> soundcard, NIC, Com port etc.
>>>>> In Unix/Linux device has bit broader meaning, see example /dev/null or
>>>>> /dev/random. Not all devices are physical devices.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, how does reset differ from clear?
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/drawingarea/clear
>>>>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/paint/reset
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jussi
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Slashdot TV.
>>>>> Video for Nerds.  Stuff that matters.
>>>>> http://tv.slashdot.org/
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Gambas-user mailing list
>>>>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Slashdot TV.
>>> Video for Nerds.  Stuff that matters.
>>> http://tv.slashdot.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Gambas-user mailing list
>>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


-- 
Kindest Regards
Stephen A. Bungay, Prop.
Smarts On Site Information Systems




From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep  3 17:40:52 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 18:40:52 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
	and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <54073044.9030002@...3301...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>
	<54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>
	<54064D49.7040608@...3301...> <5406EFCA.8040407@...3301...>
	<54073044.9030002@...3301...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7QoNNA4Yo6AGq2xdsbeh85tniy2h+8eQsu90EhVLgjWFQ@...627...>

>    mDrawingAreaMatrix[X] = NEW DrawingArea(Panel1) AS "Card" & CStr(X)
>
>    I'm beginning to think that what I am trying to accomplish is not
> possible. How can a Draw event that is not in the compile-time source be
> accessed during run-time?
>

I don't know why you need multiple drawing areas, but your drawing areas
will raise the event by its name.
They will be:

Public Sub Card1_Draw()
Public Sub Card2_Draw()
 ...

But maybe it is easier to set the drawing areas as Cached.


Jussi


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep  3 17:41:16 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 18:41:16 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
	and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <540733BB.3000208@...3301...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>
	<54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>
	<54064D49.7040608@...3301...> <5406EFCA.8040407@...3301...>
	<54073044.9030002@...3301...> <54073149.6080601@...3301...>
	<540733BB.3000208@...3301...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7QSbHZ86LTm6kShLe=+Us0JHoQxOTJVC4-cMqwDG_xV9w@...627...>

Everything works now?


Jussi


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Stephen <sbungay at ...3301...> wrote:

>    Uh huh. It figures, almost four hours after the initial post,
> frustration levels climbing, I sent that email then the solution hits me
> square between the eyes.
>
> Yes use cached mode.
>
> On 09/03/2014 11:18 AM, Stephen wrote:
> > Paint.Begin and use cached mode? Trying that now.
> >
> > On 09/03/2014 11:14 AM, Stephen wrote:
> >>      Typographical error in the code (not that it is causing a problem).
> >> This line
> >>
> >>      mDrawingAreaMatrix[X] = NEW DrawingArea(Panel1) AS "Card"&
>  CInt(X)
> >>
> >> CInt(X) is redundant and not at all what I was thinking about when I
> >> typed that line. It should more properly read;
> >>
> >>      mDrawingAreaMatrix[X] = NEW DrawingArea(Panel1) AS "Card"&
>  CStr(X)
> >>
> >>      I'm beginning to think that what I am trying to accomplish is not
> >> possible. How can a Draw event that is not in the compile-time source be
> >> accessed during run-time?
> >>
> >> On 09/03/2014 06:39 AM, Stephen wrote:
> >>>     Attached is a sample project that dynamically instantiates 10
> >>> business card sized DrawingAreas within a Panel on a forum. The form
> >>> represents a North American letter-sized sheet of paper. Since the
> >>> Draw event must be used to draw within each of the Drawing areas, and
> >>> the the Drawing Areas are brought into existence at run-time, the
> >>> question is how to draw something on them?
> >>>
> >>>     The actual project uses a database to dynamically create (or
> >>> re-create) QR or Barcode images.
> >>>
> >>> Steve.
> >>>
> >>> On 09/02/2014 07:05 PM, Stephen wrote:
> >>>> On 09/02/2014 06:22 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> >>>>>> I guess it is the need to use the draw event in order to do anything
> >>>>>> with the drawing area that had me spun. I think in terms of methods,
> >>>>>> properties and events, but I do not think in terms of events being
> the
> >>>>>> very thing that actually does the work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Draw event is called every time drawingarea needs to be drawn.
> >>>>        Yes, so we force the event by the refresh method. I'm slowly
> making
> >>>> progress... documenting things as I go. Thank you taking the time to
> >>>> help.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thus it is
> >>>>> where you put the drawing commands.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But you can change this behavior by setting Cached property to True.
> >>>>> Then you start painting by determining painting device (Gambas
> >>>>> cannot know
> >>>>> where to draw, if you are not in specific drawing event)
> >>>>> Paint.Begin(hNameOfPaintingDevice) and end with Paint.End.
> >>>>> See the documentation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm thinking of it now in terms of Macros, using the Object.Call(me,
> >>>>>> $sFunctionName) treats the code in $sFunctionName like a Macro, (am
> >>>>>> I on
> >>>>>> the right track?) Flexible&     powerful yes. Intuitive in it's
> >>>>>> usage, not
> >>>>>> so much.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> This only enables you to use string value to call a function. There
> are
> >>>>> many alternatives for this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> One of the things that really confused me was the paint.reset
> command
> >>>>>> telling me it had no device.... ummm... no "device"? To me a device
> >>>>>> is a
> >>>>>> piece of hardware, a printer, a modem, a screen, keyboard, mouse,
> >>>>>> soundcard, NIC, Com port etc.
> >>>>> In Unix/Linux device has bit broader meaning, see example /dev/null
> or
> >>>>> /dev/random. Not all devices are physical devices.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> BTW, how does reset differ from clear?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/drawingarea/clear
> >>>>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/paint/reset
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jussi
> >>>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Slashdot TV.
> >>>>> Video for Nerds.  Stuff that matters.
> >>>>> http://tv.slashdot.org/
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Gambas-user mailing list
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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  3 17:43:59 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 17:43:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gradient smoothing?
In-Reply-To: <1409726157.225685766@...3373...>
References: <1409726157.225685766@...3373...>
Message-ID: <5407373F.408@...1...>

Le 03/09/2014 08:35, ??????? ?????????? a ?crit :
>
> Dear Benot Minisini !
>
> I like your Gambas project, but shortage of documentation on some functions creates small problems.
>   For example the realized function (Fill.Gradient = Vertical) - works with Fill.Gradient remarkably, but there is no function
> smoothing of roughnesses (this function is realized in  Visual Basic Net,
> it is effective for development of user control).
> To my regret - I didn't find this function in "Gambas".
>
> Private  Sub  ShowPensAndSmoothingMode(ByVal  eAs  PaintEventArgs)
>
>      ' Set the SmoothingMode property to smooth the line.
>      e.Graphics.SmoothingMode = Drawing2D.SmoothingMode.AntiAlias
>
>      ' Create a new Pen object.
>      Dim  greenPenAs  New  Pen(Color.Green)
>
>      ' Set the width to 6.
>      greenPen.Width = 6.0F
>
>      ' Set the DashCap to round.
>      greenPen.DashCap = Drawing2D.DashCap.Round
>
>      ' Create a custom dash pattern.
>      greenPen.DashPattern =New  Single() {4.0F, 2.0F, 1.0F, 3.0F}
>
>      ' Draw a line.
>      e.Graphics.DrawLine(greenPen, 20.0F, 20.0F, 100.0F, 240.0F)
>
>      ' Change the SmoothingMode to none.
>      e.Graphics.SmoothingMode = Drawing2D.SmoothingMode.None
>
>      ' Draw another line.
>      e.Graphics.DrawLine(greenPen, 100.0F, 240.0F, 160.0F, 20.0F)
>
>      ' Dispose of the custom pen.
>      greenPen.Dispose()
> End  Sub
>
>
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/ru-ru/library/system.drawing.graphics.smoothingmode(v=vs.90).aspx
>
>
>
> Dmitry Klishin

Use Paint.AntiAlias for that.

Beware that it has no effect on drawing fonts, and that coordinates do 
not translate to the same pixel(s) in both mode.

With antialiasing on, (X,Y) points between pixels (four pixels are 
concerned), whereas with antialiasing off, it points directly inside the 
pixel (only one pixel is concerned).

If you are not aware of that, draw a single point and use a magnify 
program to see what that means (for example KMag).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From vuott at ...325...  Wed Sep  3 17:46:53 2014
From: vuott at ...325... (Ru Vuott)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:46:53 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] ERROR with revision 6446  !
In-Reply-To: <540726C0.9070401@...1...>
Message-ID: <1409759213.46141.YahooMailBasic@...3273...>

Yes, now it works.

Regards
vuott



--------------------------------------------
Mer 3/9/14, Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...> ha scritto:

 Oggetto: Re: [Gambas-user] ERROR with revision 6446  !
 A: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
 Data: Mercoled? 3 settembre 2014, 16:33
 
 Le 03/09/2014 16:15, Ru
 Vuott a ?crit :
 > Hello,
 >
 > with revision 6446 I
 obtained this error:
 >
 > ****************************
 > make[5]: Entering directory
 `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4/src/webkit'
 >? ? CXX? ? ?
 gb_qt4_webkit_la-cwebsettings.lo
 >
 cwebsettings.cpp: In function 'void
 WebSettingsCache_Path(void*, void*)':
 > cwebsettings.cpp:196:36: error:
 'struct GB_INTERFACE::<anonymous>' has no
 member named 'Home'
 >?
 ???QString root = QString(GB.System.Home());
 >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ? ? ? ? ? ^
 > cwebsettings.cpp: In
 function 'void WebSettingsCache_Clear(void*,
 void*)':
 > cwebsettings.cpp:249:5:
 error: 'struct GB_INTERFACE' has no member named
 'BrowseDirectory'
 >? ?
 GB.BrowseDirectory(_cache_path, NULL, remove_file);
 >? ? ???^
 >
 make[5]: *** [gb_qt4_webkit_la-cwebsettings.lo] Error 1
 > make[5]: Leaving directory
 `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4/src/webkit'
 > make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 > make[4]: Leaving directory
 `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
 >
 make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 >
 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4'
 > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
 > make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/home/vuott/trunk/gb.qt4'
 > make[1]:
 *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 > make[1]:
 Leaving directory `/home/vuott/trunk'
 > make: *** [all] Error 2
 >
 >
 ***************************************************************
 >
 > Regards
 > vuott
 >
 
 Fixed in revision #6447.
 
 Regards,
 
 
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 Minisini
 
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From sbungay at ...3301...  Wed Sep  3 19:03:51 2014
From: sbungay at ...3301... (Stephen)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 13:03:51 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
 and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7QSbHZ86LTm6kShLe=+Us0JHoQxOTJVC4-cMqwDG_xV9w@...627...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>	<54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>	<54064D49.7040608@...3301...>
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Message-ID: <540749F7.6040300@...3301...>

   Yes indeed :)  Using cache mode for each instantiated DrawingArea we 
can manipulate them as desired.
You asked why am I using 10 drawing areas, oddly enough the answer is to 
simplify things from a layout standpoint... didn't figure on having this 
much trouble with it... but persistence (and help) pays off. Now to 
print the darn things.


On 09/03/2014 11:41 AM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> Everything works now?
>
>
> Jussi
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Stephen<sbungay at ...3301...>  wrote:
>
>>     Uh huh. It figures, almost four hours after the initial post,
>> frustration levels climbing, I sent that email then the solution hits me
>> square between the eyes.
>>
>> Yes use cached mode.
>>
>> On 09/03/2014 11:18 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>> Paint.Begin and use cached mode? Trying that now.
>>>
>>> On 09/03/2014 11:14 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>>>       Typographical error in the code (not that it is causing a problem).
>>>> This line
>>>>
>>>>       mDrawingAreaMatrix[X] = NEW DrawingArea(Panel1) AS "Card"&
>>   CInt(X)
>>>> CInt(X) is redundant and not at all what I was thinking about when I
>>>> typed that line. It should more properly read;
>>>>
>>>>       mDrawingAreaMatrix[X] = NEW DrawingArea(Panel1) AS "Card"&
>>   CStr(X)
>>>>       I'm beginning to think that what I am trying to accomplish is not
>>>> possible. How can a Draw event that is not in the compile-time source be
>>>> accessed during run-time?
>>>>
>>>> On 09/03/2014 06:39 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>>>>      Attached is a sample project that dynamically instantiates 10
>>>>> business card sized DrawingAreas within a Panel on a forum. The form
>>>>> represents a North American letter-sized sheet of paper. Since the
>>>>> Draw event must be used to draw within each of the Drawing areas, and
>>>>> the the Drawing Areas are brought into existence at run-time, the
>>>>> question is how to draw something on them?
>>>>>
>>>>>      The actual project uses a database to dynamically create (or
>>>>> re-create) QR or Barcode images.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/02/2014 07:05 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/02/2014 06:22 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>>>>>>>> I guess it is the need to use the draw event in order to do anything
>>>>>>>> with the drawing area that had me spun. I think in terms of methods,
>>>>>>>> properties and events, but I do not think in terms of events being
>> the
>>>>>>>> very thing that actually does the work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Draw event is called every time drawingarea needs to be drawn.
>>>>>>         Yes, so we force the event by the refresh method. I'm slowly
>> making
>>>>>> progress... documenting things as I go. Thank you taking the time to
>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thus it is
>>>>>>> where you put the drawing commands.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But you can change this behavior by setting Cached property to True.
>>>>>>> Then you start painting by determining painting device (Gambas
>>>>>>> cannot know
>>>>>>> where to draw, if you are not in specific drawing event)
>>>>>>> Paint.Begin(hNameOfPaintingDevice) and end with Paint.End.
>>>>>>> See the documentation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm thinking of it now in terms of Macros, using the Object.Call(me,
>>>>>>>> $sFunctionName) treats the code in $sFunctionName like a Macro, (am
>>>>>>>> I on
>>>>>>>> the right track?) Flexible&      powerful yes. Intuitive in it's
>>>>>>>> usage, not
>>>>>>>> so much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This only enables you to use string value to call a function. There
>> are
>>>>>>> many alternatives for this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of the things that really confused me was the paint.reset
>> command
>>>>>>>> telling me it had no device.... ummm... no "device"? To me a device
>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>> piece of hardware, a printer, a modem, a screen, keyboard, mouse,
>>>>>>>> soundcard, NIC, Com port etc.
>>>>>>> In Unix/Linux device has bit broader meaning, see example /dev/null
>> or
>>>>>>> /dev/random. Not all devices are physical devices.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW, how does reset differ from clear?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/drawingarea/clear
>>>>>>> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.qt4/paint/reset
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jussi
>>>>>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>
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>> Smarts On Site Information Systems
>>
>>
>>
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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep  3 20:33:54 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 21:33:54 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
	and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <540749F7.6040300@...3301...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>
	<54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>
	<54064D49.7040608@...3301...> <5406EFCA.8040407@...3301...>
	<54073044.9030002@...3301...> <54073149.6080601@...3301...>
	<540733BB.3000208@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7QSbHZ86LTm6kShLe=+Us0JHoQxOTJVC4-cMqwDG_xV9w@...627...>
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Message-ID: <CAFJMe7QmHS3XNqHuu116MF_OhMPTW_=7MyVwXRP0=2oLpYU0Rw@...627...>

> You asked why am I using 10 drawing areas, oddly enough the answer is to
> simplify things from a layout standpoint...


Just figure out how to draw one card and make multiple copies of it to same
one big drawing area..?



> Now to print the darn things.
>

Yeah... to print the things you need to give the same drawing commands to
the Printer object. See how above would make things simple...
Or you need to give picture of the wanted result for the Printer object.
Not sure what is reasonable way to do this.



Jussi


From sbungay at ...3301...  Wed Sep  3 22:16:22 2014
From: sbungay at ...3301... (Stephen)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:16:22 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
 and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7QmHS3XNqHuu116MF_OhMPTW_=7MyVwXRP0=2oLpYU0Rw@...627...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7RnNUuF80dXvC1NX0uk+7iY1dZsoLQU8OwsOEASM99dbw@...627...>	<54063D6B.5000903@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>	<54064D49.7040608@...3301...>
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	<CAFJMe7QmHS3XNqHuu116MF_OhMPTW_=7MyVwXRP0=2oLpYU0Rw@...627...>
Message-ID: <54077716.1070608@...3301...>

On 09/03/2014 02:33 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>> You asked why am I using 10 drawing areas, oddly enough the answer is to
>> simplify things from a layout standpoint...
>
> Just figure out how to draw one card and make multiple copies of it to same
> one big drawing area..?
>
>
Since each drawing area is the same size, the same drawing commands, 
right down to the coordinates, are used to draw on each one, only a 
portion of the contents of each small DrawingArea changes (in this case 
its a QR Code). Everything else remains the same. The drawing portion of 
the program does not have to be concerned with placing an item on a page 
(one large DrawingArea), and it doesn't care where the DrawingArea it is 
manipulating is going to be placed, another piece of code is concerned 
with that functionality.
All well and good, until we get to printing...
>> Now to print the darn things.
>>
> Yeah... to print the things you need to give the same drawing commands to
> the Printer object. See how above would make things simple...
> Or you need to give picture of the wanted result for the Printer object.
> Not sure what is reasonable way to do this.
>
>

  I was thinking of taking the panel containing the drawing areas, 
turning it into one big bitmap, and then spooling that file off to the 
printer. Has anyone out there done this kind of thing?

> Jussi
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From taboege at ...626...  Wed Sep  3 22:27:14 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 22:27:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
 and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <54077716.1070608@...3301...>
References: <CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>
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	<54077716.1070608@...3301...>
Message-ID: <20140903202714.GD783@...2774...>

On Wed, 03 Sep 2014, Stephen wrote:
> On 09/03/2014 02:33 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> >> You asked why am I using 10 drawing areas, oddly enough the answer is to
> >> simplify things from a layout standpoint...
> >
> > Just figure out how to draw one card and make multiple copies of it to same
> > one big drawing area..?
> >
> >
> Since each drawing area is the same size, the same drawing commands, 
> right down to the coordinates, are used to draw on each one, only a 
> portion of the contents of each small DrawingArea changes (in this case 
> its a QR Code). Everything else remains the same. The drawing portion of 
> the program does not have to be concerned with placing an item on a page 
> (one large DrawingArea), and it doesn't care where the DrawingArea it is 
> manipulating is going to be placed, another piece of code is concerned 
> with that functionality.
> All well and good, until we get to printing...
> >> Now to print the darn things.
> >>
> > Yeah... to print the things you need to give the same drawing commands to
> > the Printer object. See how above would make things simple...
> > Or you need to give picture of the wanted result for the Printer object.
> > Not sure what is reasonable way to do this.
> >
> >
> 
>   I was thinking of taking the panel containing the drawing areas, 
> turning it into one big bitmap, and then spooling that file off to the 
> printer. Has anyone out there done this kind of thing?
> 

Sounds a bit weird. A Printer object is also a potential drawing device,
so you shouldn't take screenshots to print something of which your program
knows how to reproduce it.

Do you have a feeling by now how painting works in Gambas (or how it is
supposed to work)? If not, I have some spare time the next days... As far
as my experience goes, painting is a black box for many newbies. But when
you get used to it, it makes kinda sense :-)

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From sbungay at ...3301...  Wed Sep  3 22:40:57 2014
From: sbungay at ...3301... (Stephen)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:40:57 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
 and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <20140903202714.GD783@...2774...>
References: <CAFJMe7TvtsZK-b=SNb0QDo_59sW1xAUbHedn6DhZn4kiT+LQ2Q@...627...>	<54064D49.7040608@...3301...>	<5406EFCA.8040407@...3301...>	<54073044.9030002@...3301...>	<54073149.6080601@...3301...>	<540733BB.3000208@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7QSbHZ86LTm6kShLe=+Us0JHoQxOTJVC4-cMqwDG_xV9w@...627...>	<540749F7.6040300@...3301...>	<CAFJMe7QmHS3XNqHuu116MF_OhMPTW_=7MyVwXRP0=2oLpYU0Rw@...627...>	<54077716.1070608@...3301...>
	<20140903202714.GD783@...2774...>
Message-ID: <54077CD9.3000407@...3301...>

On 09/03/2014 04:27 PM, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2014, Stephen wrote:
>> On 09/03/2014 02:33 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>>>> You asked why am I using 10 drawing areas, oddly enough the answer is to
>>>> simplify things from a layout standpoint...
>>> Just figure out how to draw one card and make multiple copies of it to same
>>> one big drawing area..?
>>>
>>>
>> Since each drawing area is the same size, the same drawing commands,
>> right down to the coordinates, are used to draw on each one, only a
>> portion of the contents of each small DrawingArea changes (in this case
>> its a QR Code). Everything else remains the same. The drawing portion of
>> the program does not have to be concerned with placing an item on a page
>> (one large DrawingArea), and it doesn't care where the DrawingArea it is
>> manipulating is going to be placed, another piece of code is concerned
>> with that functionality.
>> All well and good, until we get to printing...
>>>> Now to print the darn things.
>>>>
>>> Yeah... to print the things you need to give the same drawing commands to
>>> the Printer object. See how above would make things simple...
>>> Or you need to give picture of the wanted result for the Printer object.
>>> Not sure what is reasonable way to do this.
>>>
>>>
>>    I was thinking of taking the panel containing the drawing areas,
>> turning it into one big bitmap, and then spooling that file off to the
>> printer. Has anyone out there done this kind of thing?
>>
> Sounds a bit weird. A Printer object is also a potential drawing device,
> so you shouldn't take screenshots to print something of which your program
> knows how to reproduce it.
>
> Do you have a feeling by now how painting works in Gambas (or how it is
> supposed to work)? If not, I have some spare time the next days... As far
> as my experience goes, painting is a black box for many newbies. But when
> you get used to it, it makes kinda sense :-)
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>
Hi Tobi;

   Yeah I'm slowly coming to grips with painting. I wasn't thinking of 
doing a screen shot. Painting is a bit... err... different, not at all 
how I expected it to work, but oh well, one never stops learning.
   Thanks for the offer... I'll take you up on it if I get stuck.

-- 
Kindest Regards
Stephen A. Bungay, Prop.
Smarts On Site Information Systems




From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep  3 22:53:30 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 23:53:30 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Drawing Areas, painting on them,
	and printing the results...
In-Reply-To: <54077716.1070608@...3301...>
References: <54062BB0.9010104@...3301...>
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	<54064D49.7040608@...3301...> <5406EFCA.8040407@...3301...>
	<54073044.9030002@...3301...> <54073149.6080601@...3301...>
	<540733BB.3000208@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7QSbHZ86LTm6kShLe=+Us0JHoQxOTJVC4-cMqwDG_xV9w@...627...>
	<540749F7.6040300@...3301...>
	<CAFJMe7QmHS3XNqHuu116MF_OhMPTW_=7MyVwXRP0=2oLpYU0Rw@...627...>
	<54077716.1070608@...3301...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7S1xZhoCGmobEdYEroTqopT8=H2tgpyjaGb6UYDm_n7_w@...627...>

> Since each drawing area is the same size, the same drawing commands,
> right down to the coordinates, are used to draw on each one, only a
> portion of the contents of each small DrawingArea changes (in this case
> its a QR Code). Everything else remains the same.


Sounds perfect place to pass coordinates and QR Code as arguments for the
drawing function.
Then call it like this:

Public Sub Cards_Draw()

  Dim ii As Integer, jj As Integer

  For ii = 0 to 2 '' 10 cards? asymmetric layout?
  For jj = 0 to 2
     DrawCard(ii * iCardSizeX, jj * iCardSizeY, iQRCode[(ii * 3) + jj])
  Next
  Next

End


And to print the same thing, just:

Public Sub MyPrinter_Draw()

  Dim ii As Integer, jj As Integer

  For ii = 0 to 2 '' 10 card? asymmetric layout?
  For jj = 0 to 2
     DrawCard(ii * iCardSizeX, jj * iCardSizeY, iQRCode[(ii * 3) + jj])
  Next
  Next

End


But maybe I don't fully understand what you are trying to achieve.



Jussi


From introlinux at ...626...  Wed Sep  3 22:57:59 2014
From: introlinux at ...626... (=?UTF-8?Q?Antonio_S=C3=A1nchez?=)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 22:57:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to auto-reload webview
Message-ID: <CABGO1xgKE-LcU6UELd4u7wYSKkgasK_xGi77tYTTJowK4viEHg@...627...>

In this project, when I try to change fonts, Webview1 need right click and
select "reload" to show new font choosen. Is there any way to auto-refresh
or auto-reload the page showed in Webview1?


I tried with webview1.reload() and webview1.refresh(), but this doesn't
work.


Thanks.
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From lists at ...2828...  Thu Sep  4 09:52:36 2014
From: lists at ...2828... (CJ)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 09:52:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] I-Nex - Nice Gambas Program
Message-ID: <000001cfc815$33daa7f0$0f00a8c0@...2829...>


I haven't seen it mentioned here so I just wanted to share what looks
like a nice Gambas program that I bumbed into. It's open source and
called "I-Nex" and shows lots of hardware information about the computer.

  http://i-nex.linux.pl

Haven't tried it yet but it looks really nice. Maybe this could be
something worth mentioning in upcoming Gambas Magazine?

/CJ





From karl.reinl at ...9...  Thu Sep  4 22:40:46 2014
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Karl Reinl)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 22:40:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT using the file write
 permissions changes
In-Reply-To: <53C52358.5090700@...1...>
References: <1405428372.3474.14.camel@...40...>
	<53C52358.5090700@...1...>
Message-ID: <1409863246.3513.5.camel@...40...>

Am Dienstag, den 15.07.2014, 14:49 +0200 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 15/07/2014 14:46, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > Salut Beno?t,
> >
> >
> > Date:     2014-07-11 11:51:47 +0000 (Fri, 11 Jul 2014)
> > Log Message:
> > -----------
> > [DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT]
> > * NEW: All files can be "locked". This is implemented by using the file
> >    write permissions. The old form locking mechanism has been removed.
> >

Salut Beno?t,

I dug a bit deeper, Project.SetReadOnly(Path, <boolean>) is, at least in
FEditor only used on load, but never on unload, so files in my case
symlinks, which are set to readOnly will stay so if I change the project
or close the IDE.

I tried this on FEditor

Public Sub Form_Close()
  Project.AddRecentFile(Me)
  Project.SetReadOnly(Path, False)
End

Ok, think its a bit rough, but works.
Finally it must be checked how stated the file, when opened, to
reset/keep this stat. 
-- 
Amicalement
Charlie


This problem persist still on IDE, am I the only who's using linked
files in project ?
 
-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From abbat.81 at ...787...  Fri Sep  5 11:50:26 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 02:50:26 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView can not Reload/Refresh
In-Reply-To: <CAGwqEL6RDs1Mw86W5JmYNu2YafP9iqT6Q99=hDBoSw5CzEqZyQ@...627...>
References: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>
	<CAGwqEL6RDs1Mw86W5JmYNu2YafP9iqT6Q99=hDBoSw5CzEqZyQ@...627...>
Message-ID: <1409910626453-47952.post@...3046...>

And where is cach for WebView1?
How can I clear it?

This is very bad way:
"Shell "rm -rf " & Shell$(WebSettings.Cache.Path) &/ "*" Wait" 



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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Fri Sep  5 12:07:03 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 03:07:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] I-Nex - Nice Gambas Program
In-Reply-To: <1a3c5af2d49836fb47b1859318ceb34c@...3374...>
References: <000001cfc815$33daa7f0$0f00a8c0@...2829...>
	<1a3c5af2d49836fb47b1859318ceb34c@...3374...>
Message-ID: <1409911623441-47953.post@...3046...>

<http://gambas.8142.n7.nabble.com/file/n47953/2014-09-05-130514_1280x1024_scrot.png> 



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From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep  5 12:15:58 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 12:15:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView can not Reload/Refresh
In-Reply-To: <1409910626453-47952.post@...3046...>
References: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>	<CAGwqEL6RDs1Mw86W5JmYNu2YafP9iqT6Q99=hDBoSw5CzEqZyQ@...627...>
	<1409910626453-47952.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <54098D5E.4060809@...1...>

Le 05/09/2014 11:50, abbat81 a ?crit :
> And where is cach for WebView1?
> How can I clear it?
>
> This is very bad way:
> "Shell "rm -rf " & Shell$(WebSettings.Cache.Path) &/ "*" Wait"
>

In the last revisions, I added the method WebSettings.Cache.Clear() to 
clear the cache correctly.

Regards,

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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Fri Sep  5 12:53:51 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 03:53:51 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView can not Reload/Refresh
In-Reply-To: <54098D5E.4060809@...1...>
References: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>
	<CAGwqEL6RDs1Mw86W5JmYNu2YafP9iqT6Q99=hDBoSw5CzEqZyQ@...627...>
	<1409910626453-47952.post@...3046...>
	<54098D5E.4060809@...1...>
Message-ID: <1409914431803-47956.post@...3046...>

Thanks Beno?t,

how can I use it now?

I have a Gambas 3.5.1 and I get "Unknown symbol "Clear"" .

If I update my Gambas to 3.5.4 - will I get the "WebSettings.Cache.Clear()"
?

I'd clear the cache by myself but  WebSettings.Cache.Path gives me nothing

Regards.



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From introlinux at ...626...  Fri Sep  5 13:40:32 2014
From: introlinux at ...626... (=?UTF-8?Q?Antonio_S=C3=A1nchez?=)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 13:40:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView can not Reload/Refresh
In-Reply-To: <1409914431803-47956.post@...3046...>
References: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>
	<CAGwqEL6RDs1Mw86W5JmYNu2YafP9iqT6Q99=hDBoSw5CzEqZyQ@...627...>
	<1409910626453-47952.post@...3046...>
	<54098D5E.4060809@...1...>
	<1409914431803-47956.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <CABGO1xjfRd4zsmYG0Prz_b_hOpcvECkZsD7Ow72+chec2qyiKw@...627...>

Hi, this method could help me with my problem?
http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/message/32793455/


2014-09-05 12:53 GMT+02:00 abbat81 <abbat.81 at ...787...>:

> Thanks Beno?t,
>
> how can I use it now?
>
> I have a Gambas 3.5.1 and I get "Unknown symbol "Clear"" .
>
> If I update my Gambas to 3.5.4 - will I get the "WebSettings.Cache.Clear()"
> ?
>
> I'd clear the cache by myself but  WebSettings.Cache.Path gives me nothing
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Fri Sep  5 13:51:05 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 04:51:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView can not Reload/Refresh
In-Reply-To: <CABGO1xjfRd4zsmYG0Prz_b_hOpcvECkZsD7Ow72+chec2qyiKw@...627...>
References: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>
	<CAGwqEL6RDs1Mw86W5JmYNu2YafP9iqT6Q99=hDBoSw5CzEqZyQ@...627...>
	<1409910626453-47952.post@...3046...>
	<54098D5E.4060809@...1...>
	<1409914431803-47956.post@...3046...>
	<CABGO1xjfRd4zsmYG0Prz_b_hOpcvECkZsD7Ow72+chec2qyiKw@...627...>
Message-ID: <1409917865922-47959.post@...3046...>

Thanks Antonio,

I downloded the attachment and I could not any solution in your link.

Can tou tell me here? how to relod WebView?

Thanks



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From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep  5 14:07:17 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 14:07:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView can not Reload/Refresh
In-Reply-To: <1409917865922-47959.post@...3046...>
References: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>	<CAGwqEL6RDs1Mw86W5JmYNu2YafP9iqT6Q99=hDBoSw5CzEqZyQ@...627...>	<1409910626453-47952.post@...3046...>	<54098D5E.4060809@...1...>	<1409914431803-47956.post@...3046...>	<CABGO1xjfRd4zsmYG0Prz_b_hOpcvECkZsD7Ow72+chec2qyiKw@...627...>
	<1409917865922-47959.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <5409A775.9010001@...1...>

Le 05/09/2014 13:51, abbat81 a ?crit :
> Thanks Antonio,
>
> I downloded the attachment and I could not any solution in your link.
>
> Can tou tell me here? how to relod WebView?
>
> Thanks
>

OK, I finally found out how to reload the page without using the cache. 
This is just a QT API omission in the QWebView class, but the function 
can be triggered in another class.

I will fix that soon...

-- 
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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Fri Sep  5 14:23:54 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 05:23:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView can not Reload/Refresh
In-Reply-To: <5409A775.9010001@...1...>
References: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>
	<CAGwqEL6RDs1Mw86W5JmYNu2YafP9iqT6Q99=hDBoSw5CzEqZyQ@...627...>
	<1409910626453-47952.post@...3046...>
	<54098D5E.4060809@...1...>
	<1409914431803-47956.post@...3046...>
	<CABGO1xjfRd4zsmYG0Prz_b_hOpcvECkZsD7Ow72+chec2qyiKw@...627...>
	<1409917865922-47959.post@...3046...>
	<5409A775.9010001@...1...>
Message-ID: <1409919834931-47961.post@...3046...>

Beno?t, 

I have a Form1 and Form2, which has that cahed WebView1.

How can I Close-Quit-Kill a Form2 with WebView1 to drop WebView1.

I mean,  how to Close Form2 from Form1 to get new content  in Form2.WebView1
openin next time Form2?

Thanks




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From introlinux at ...626...  Fri Sep  5 18:07:16 2014
From: introlinux at ...626... (=?UTF-8?Q?Antonio_S=C3=A1nchez?=)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 18:07:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView can not Reload/Refresh
In-Reply-To: <1409917865922-47959.post@...3046...>
References: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>
	<CAGwqEL6RDs1Mw86W5JmYNu2YafP9iqT6Q99=hDBoSw5CzEqZyQ@...627...>
	<1409910626453-47952.post@...3046...>
	<54098D5E.4060809@...1...>
	<1409914431803-47956.post@...3046...>
	<CABGO1xjfRd4zsmYG0Prz_b_hOpcvECkZsD7Ow72+chec2qyiKw@...627...>
	<1409917865922-47959.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <CABGO1xgkGdht-qFC2x8hTFATm7NTjGtjuo3VibR1rwu_QqDwyA@...627...>

It must be a misunderstanding, I do not have the solution, just wondering if
my problem in that project would have the same solution as yours.




2014-09-05 13:51 GMT+02:00 abbat81 <abbat.81 at ...787...>:

> Thanks Antonio,
>
> I downloded the attachment and I could not any solution in your link.
>
> Can tou tell me here? how to relod WebView?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep  5 19:57:49 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 19:57:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView can not Reload/Refresh
In-Reply-To: <5409A775.9010001@...1...>
References: <1409669119026-47918.post@...3046...>	<CAGwqEL6RDs1Mw86W5JmYNu2YafP9iqT6Q99=hDBoSw5CzEqZyQ@...627...>	<1409910626453-47952.post@...3046...>	<54098D5E.4060809@...1...>	<1409914431803-47956.post@...3046...>	<CABGO1xjfRd4zsmYG0Prz_b_hOpcvECkZsD7Ow72+chec2qyiKw@...627...>
	<1409917865922-47959.post@...3046...>
	<5409A775.9010001@...1...>
Message-ID: <5409F99D.50405@...1...>

Le 05/09/2014 14:07, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> Le 05/09/2014 13:51, abbat81 a ?crit :
>> Thanks Antonio,
>>
>> I downloded the attachment and I could not any solution in your link.
>>
>> Can tou tell me here? how to relod WebView?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
> OK, I finally found out how to reload the page without using the cache.
> This is just a QT API omission in the QWebView class, but the function
> can be triggered in another class.
>
> I will fix that soon...
>

Fixed in revision #6450. Now the WebView.Reload method takes an optional 
boolean argument. Set it to TRUE, and the cache will be bypassed. 
Beware, I didn't test!

Regards,

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From gambas at ...2524...  Sat Sep  6 05:18:35 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 03:18:35 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 555 in gambas: Auto-Resize does not work with
	labels in GTK
Message-ID: <0-6813199134517018827-12621378612963444743-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Status: New
Owner: ----
Labels: Version Type-Bug Priority-Medium OpSys-Any Dist-Any Arch-X86-64  
Desktop-Any GUI-Any

New issue 555 by zachsmit... at ...626...: Auto-Resize does not work with  
labels in GTK
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=555

1) Auto-Resize no longer works with labels in GTK+.  It does work in QT4.

2)
[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.16.1-1-ARCH
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=arch
Desktop=XFCE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_US.UTF-8
Memory=3956M

[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11200.16
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.6
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.401.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.24
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4

3) Project attached

5) Run the example and you'll see that the label size does not expand to  
the size of its contents.




Attachments:
	auto_resize-0.0.1.tar.gz  4.5 KB

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From gambas at ...2524...  Sat Sep  6 11:39:03 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 09:39:03 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 555 in gambas: Auto-Resize does not work
	with labels in GTK
In-Reply-To: <0-6813199134517018827-12621378612963444743-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <0-6813199134517018827-12621378612963444743-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Updates:
	Status: Accepted
	Labels: -Version -Arch-X86-64 -GUI-Any Version-3.5.0 Arch-Any GUI-GTK

Comment #1 on issue 555 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Auto-Resize does not work  
with labels in GTK
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=555

(No comment was entered for this change.)

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From gambas at ...2524...  Sat Sep  6 11:40:03 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 09:40:03 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 555 in gambas: Auto-Resize does not work
	with labels in GTK
In-Reply-To: <1-6813199134517018827-12621378612963444743-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <1-6813199134517018827-12621378612963444743-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-12621378612963444743-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <2-6813199134517018827-12621378612963444743-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: Fixed

Comment #2 on issue 555 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Auto-Resize does not work  
with labels in GTK
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=555

Fixed in revision #6452.

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From pata.karlsson at ...626...  Sat Sep  6 20:29:13 2014
From: pata.karlsson at ...626... (Patrik Karlsson)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 20:29:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Loading non UTF-8 text files to TextArea
Message-ID: <CANiFHSG92-FhL0-3Xsv8kpdDMk8Mjughfkzt-hMQyZw=G4bJOA@...627...>

Hi,

I got: Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert: assertion
'g_utf8_validate (text, len, NULL)' failed
when trying TextArea.Text=File.Load("iso8859-1.txt")

So my TextArea stays empty.

I have found an old bug report regarding this tagged as wont fix.

Since the file loads as expected in qt, is it future safe to use qt in my
app, will it always work?

Does qt support "every other" encoding too?
Im asking since Im working on a gui for iconv.

/Patrik


From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  6 20:45:24 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 20:45:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Loading non UTF-8 text files to TextArea
In-Reply-To: <CANiFHSG92-FhL0-3Xsv8kpdDMk8Mjughfkzt-hMQyZw=G4bJOA@...627...>
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Le 06/09/2014 20:29, Patrik Karlsson a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> I got: Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert: assertion
> 'g_utf8_validate (text, len, NULL)' failed
> when trying TextArea.Text=File.Load("iso8859-1.txt")
>
> So my TextArea stays empty.

If the file contents is not UTF-8, it's up to you to convert it to UTF-8.

TextArea.Text = Conv(File.Load("iso8859-1.txt"), "ISO-8859-1", "UTF-8")

>
> I have found an old bug report regarding this tagged as wont fix.
>
> Since the file loads as expected in qt, is it future safe to use qt in my
> app, will it always work?
>
> Does qt support "every other" encoding too?
> Im asking since Im working on a gui for iconv.
>
> /Patrik

It should not work in Qt either, unless it has some automatic conversion 
inside, or it is more tolerant.

Regards,

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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep  7 13:15:33 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 13:15:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Newbie IDE
In-Reply-To: <540BD4DE.9000504@...3375...>
References: <5409CA98.6060209@...3375...> <20140905143840.GD915@...2774...>
	<5409CE7B.2070501@...1...>
	<5409D2C2.7070306@...3375...>
	<5409D3D8.6060004@...1...>
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Message-ID: <540C3E55.90907@...1...>

Le 07/09/2014 05:45, John Leake a ?crit :
> Hi Beno?t,
>
> Thank you for the response.  It is quite amazing what small problems can
> obstruct a newbies progress. My numerous references to M$ below are not
> in any way a criticism of Gambas. I am just vocalising my newbie
> experiences as they happen.

Hi,

You should use the mailing-list instead of just my own e-mail. That way 
all your questions and the answers are archived, and other people may 
have better answers than me too.

>
>>> Could I suggest that an item be added to Preferences/Interface
>
> I have changed Prefs/Interface and it works ok and the option reflects
> the current state correctly on entry. But I am still coming to grips
> with SVN.

I have added what you requested in revision #6456, but the way I want. 
:-). As a button in the IDE toolbar that unhides the menu when it is hidden.

>
> What is the correct uri for /trunk ?

If you don't know how to deal with subversion, read that first:

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/svn

>
>>> 2) I am struggling to create a radio button that has a graphic like a
>>> conventional button but has the behaviour of a radio button.
>
> Thank you, I found it just by trying each similar control in the
> toolbox. I nearly gave up and was beginning to think it was all a waste
> of time.  If I could have searched for Toggle Button I would not have
> started to lay down doubts about the system.
>
>>> 3) Searchable help with variable scope.
>
> As you get older it is difficult to retain lots of detail especially
> when the knowledge domain is unfamiliar. I found the M$ Visual Studio 6
> Enterprise way of help to be very useful.
>
> A) A split screen with search links on the left (ordered by relevance)
> and the retrieved content on the right.
>
> B) A combo box could let you select the scope of the search from say;
> All, Gambas language reference, Gambas examples, Contributed help,
> Locally held documents,  My Reminders,  Everyone?s Reminders, ...
>
> C) Contents, Index, and Search tabs
>
> The Reminders in B) would be fantastic.  I remember with M$ the
> difficulty trying to find the ASCII character table.  It used to
> frustrate me to have to search over and over with different search
> terms. Another really nice feature with M$ is the automatic context
> search that is steered by what is selected or under the cursor when you
> press F1. Also having Example Code in the help can really speed up ones
> progress.
>
> I think an improved help system is likely to reduce the email noise
> quite a lot but more importantly it could help retain newbies that would
> otherwise leave and not come back over the most trivial of annoyances.
>

I agree with yuo, but the help system is "just" a wiki written in 
Gambas. This is the reason why it does not have all the features of the 
MS help system.

And because of lack of time, I can't improve it the way you want. You 
will have to use "Google" to search it.

Of course, if someone comes with an improved help system that is 
compatible with the wiki, everybody will be happy!

Regards,

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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Sun Sep  7 13:57:19 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 04:57:19 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView -> Image/Picture.Save
In-Reply-To: <1409684988.15302.YahooMailBasic@...3274...>
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Message-ID: <1410091039525-47984.post@...3046...>

How can I use 
fixed revision #6444  ?



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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Sun Sep  7 15:31:36 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 16:31:36 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] WebView -> Image/Picture.Save
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http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/svn


Jussi

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:57 PM, abbat81 <abbat.81 at ...787...> wrote:

> How can I use
> fixed revision #6444  ?
>
>
>
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From jusabejusabe at ...626...  Sun Sep  7 16:02:24 2014
From: jusabejusabe at ...626... (Julio Sanchez)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 16:02:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?utf-8?b?QSBnYW1lIG1hZGUg4oCL4oCLaW4gMTk0NSBnYW1i?=
	=?utf-8?q?as3?=
Message-ID: <CAFM-pnsuLPERd7J1TbgNdRLmmj=GwnC=hsAyca-Bt9yjSww0-A@...627...>

A simple game done in Gambas3, unused gb.sdl library.

You can download both the source code and installer deb in

http://jsbsan.blogspot.com.es/2014/09/1945-the-game.html

Includes a simple library made in gambas3 for use with sprites and tiled

Enjoy it

Julio


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Sun Sep  7 16:58:22 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 17:58:22 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user]
	=?utf-8?b?QSBnYW1lIG1hZGUg4oCL4oCLaW4gMTk0NSBnYW1i?= =?utf-8?q?as3?=
In-Reply-To: <CAFM-pnsuLPERd7J1TbgNdRLmmj=GwnC=hsAyca-Bt9yjSww0-A@...627...>
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Message-ID: <CAFJMe7QOM+E2f60b9E+GMvMXNLPtyTw9NfnwVzz04bNn_=gT2Q@...627...>

"La p?gina que estabas buscando en este blog no existe."


Jussi

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Julio Sanchez <jusabejusabe at ...626...>
wrote:

> A simple game done in Gambas3, unused gb.sdl library.
>
> You can download both the source code and installer deb in
>
> http://jsbsan.blogspot.com.es/2014/09/1945-the-game.html
>
> Includes a simple library made in gambas3 for use with sprites and tiled
>
> Enjoy it
>
> Julio
>
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From introlinux at ...626...  Sun Sep  7 17:17:48 2014
From: introlinux at ...626... (=?UTF-8?Q?Antonio_S=C3=A1nchez?=)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 17:17:48 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user]
	=?utf-8?b?QSBnYW1lIG1hZGUg4oCL4oCLaW4gMTk0NSBnYW1i?= =?utf-8?q?as3?=
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7QOM+E2f60b9E+GMvMXNLPtyTw9NfnwVzz04bNn_=gT2Q@...627...>
References: <CAFM-pnsuLPERd7J1TbgNdRLmmj=GwnC=hsAyca-Bt9yjSww0-A@...627...>
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Message-ID: <CABGO1xjXR_dNjZJO4krGE24JtYaJ32M1pTGEvW4Nq2hUgkV5vg@...627...>

In the blog I searched for "1945" and:
http://jsbsan.blogspot.com.es/2014/09/1945-el-juego.html


2014-09-07 16:58 GMT+02:00 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>:

> "La p?gina que estabas buscando en este blog no existe."
>
>
> Jussi
>
> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Julio Sanchez <jusabejusabe at ...626...>
> wrote:
>
> > A simple game done in Gambas3, unused gb.sdl library.
> >
> > You can download both the source code and installer deb in
> >
> > http://jsbsan.blogspot.com.es/2014/09/1945-the-game.html
> >
> > Includes a simple library made in gambas3 for use with sprites and tiled
> >
> > Enjoy it
> >
> > Julio
> >
> >
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From jscops at ...11...  Sun Sep  7 17:37:45 2014
From: jscops at ...11... (Jack)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 17:37:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user]
 =?utf-8?b?QSBnYW1lIG1hZGUg4oCL4oCLaW4gMTk0NSBnYW1i?= =?utf-8?q?as3?=
In-Reply-To: <CAFM-pnsuLPERd7J1TbgNdRLmmj=GwnC=hsAyca-Bt9yjSww0-A@...627...>
References: <CAFM-pnsuLPERd7J1TbgNdRLmmj=GwnC=hsAyca-Bt9yjSww0-A@...627...>
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Le 07/09/2014 16:02, Julio Sanchez a ?crit :
> A simple game done in Gambas3, unused gb.sdl library.
>
> You can download both the source code and installer deb in
>
> http://jsbsan.blogspot.com.es/2014/09/1945-the-game.html
>
> Includes a simple library made in gambas3 for use with sprites and tiled
>
> Enjoy it

Very nice work Julio.

Jack



From taboege at ...626...  Sun Sep  7 17:50:48 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 17:50:48 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Gambas-devel] Creating a Control
In-Reply-To: <540C77D0.1010404@...3375...>
References: <540C77D0.1010404@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140907155048.GA28596@...2774...>

On Sun, 07 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Hi All,
> I am struggling to understand how to create  a new control. 
> 
> Please forgive me, I have read the help on this but I am none the wiser.
> 
> As a test I just want to create a control that behaves like a
> ToggleButton but changes colour each time it is clicked.
> 
> Could anyone help me get started ?
> 

Hui, I don't know how simple you think this is but depending on from where
you want to start, it can require quite some code (involving drawing every
part of your control if you want to write it from scratch). Of course, you
can, on the other side, start with a ToggleButton and add just the colour
plays to it which would require significantly less code. It depends on how
much control you need to have.

There are different approaches (hard ~ more control):
 - inherit ToggleButton [0] (easy),
 - inherit UserControl [1] (harder, chosen often in Gambas sources),
 - create a Form and put your things together [2] (less applicable here but
   useful to remember when you want to create compound controls) (also
   easy).

You may also want to integrate the control into the IDE's Form editor [3].

I tried to put example classes together for the above approaches but you are
way better off subscribing to the gambas-user mailing list (you are still on
gambas-devel here which is for discussion about contributions to Gambas, not
questions about programming in it). Some people there have done this sort of
thing way more often than me. See the SF info page [4].

Regards,
Tobi

General advice: if you have a slight idea already of what to search for, it
is a very good idea to look at the Gambas source code. Lots of things you
use as a Gambas programmer are implemented in Gambas itself.

[0] http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code/HEAD/tree/gambas/trunk/comp/src/gb.form/.src/MessageLabel.class
    or have a look at
    http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code/HEAD/tree/gambas/trunk/comp/src/gb.form/.src/TagBox/TagComboBox.class
    for an example of a very lazy coder :-)

[1] http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code/HEAD/tree/gambas/trunk/comp/src/gb.form/.src/Spinner.class
    This is actually a pretty good example!

[2] http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code/HEAD/tree/gambas/trunk/comp/src/gb.form/.src/FInputBox.class
    Plus the other *InputBox.{form,class} files in that directory.

[3] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/dev/gambas

[4] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user

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From gambas at ...2524...  Sun Sep  7 22:27:45 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:27:45 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 349 in gambas: GTK issue with disabled
	button text when reparented
In-Reply-To: <1-6813199134517018827-6218991680076043872-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Message-ID: <2-6813199134517018827-6218991680076043872-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: Fixed

Comment #2 on issue 349 by benoit.m... at ...626...: GTK issue with disabled  
button text when reparented
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=349

Finally fixed in revision #6457.

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From gambas at ...2524...  Sun Sep  7 22:28:45 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:28:45 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 263 in gambas: The TextBox will remain
	always in the foreground.
In-Reply-To: <6-6813199134517018827-14329216359082015794-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Updates:
	Status: NeedsInfo

Comment #7 on issue 263 by benoit.m... at ...626...: The TextBox will remain  
always in the foreground.
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=263

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From n.rogozarski at ...626...  Mon Sep  8 13:50:07 2014
From: n.rogozarski at ...626... (Roki)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 13:50:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Groups in Report
Message-ID: <540D97EF.2050307@...626...>

Ok guys! I have a question about creating a group in gb.report.
I want to show data for the vehicles, which I took from a database and 
grouped according to their type.
For example :
  ----- Cars
             --- Licence plate | Make        | Model  | sm3   | kW
             --- ST-5555AB     | Mercedes | C220   | 1989  | 88
             and so on...
----- Truck
             --- ST-1111AC     | IVECO      |  240L   | 4500   | 102
             and so on...

I successfully created a report with the data, but stuck with creating 
groups.
Is there any small example, which will help ???



From jusabejusabe at ...626...  Mon Sep  8 14:19:01 2014
From: jusabejusabe at ...626... (Julio Sanchez)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:19:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Groups in Report
In-Reply-To: <540D97EF.2050307@...626...>
References: <540D97EF.2050307@...626...>
Message-ID: <CAFM-pntwtMZdUnXm+QyFw31sLxH0q6BaBkt0VG1ehKcm1vsRTg@...627...>

Roki:

Hi, create a class that is able to make reports easily with the report
component.
You can see forum-es.org prawns (that's Spanish), but it is very easy to
use.

http://www.gambas-es.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3711&highlight=generador


Greetings

Julio



2014-09-08 13:50 GMT+02:00 Roki <n.rogozarski at ...626...>:

> Ok guys! I have a question about creating a group in gb.report.
> I want to show data for the vehicles, which I took from a database and
> grouped according to their type.
> For example :
>   ----- Cars
>              --- Licence plate | Make        | Model  | sm3   | kW
>              --- ST-5555AB     | Mercedes | C220   | 1989  | 88
>              and so on...
> ----- Truck
>              --- ST-1111AC     | IVECO      |  240L   | 4500   | 102
>              and so on...
>
> I successfully created a report with the data, but stuck with creating
> groups.
> Is there any small example, which will help ???
>
>
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From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep  8 14:34:45 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:34:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Gambas-devel] Creating a Control
In-Reply-To: <540D9494.8050305@...3375...>
References: <540C77D0.1010404@...3375...>
 <540D9494.8050305@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140908123445.GA889@...2774...>

On Mon, 08 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Many thanks for your responses.  I am posting this in the devel list
> because I am prepared to spend the time improving the IDE.
> 

Yes, but you only see 3 - 4 people regularly on gambas-devel (and mainly
through gambas-devel-svn when they do commits), as opposed to at least 10
on gambas-user. In the difference are people like Bruce Bruen who earns a
living programming in Gambas and doing such things.

> So for directions I go to http://www.gambasdoc.org/help/dev/gambas?v3
> 
> Lets say I just want to create a ToggleButton of my own that is
> unchanged from that which exists already Except for the name of course.
> 
> Start
> -----
> 1) create a new project and set its project type to 'Graphical
> application' and check the option 'Component programming'.
> 

No, you are not programming a component here. A component is a shared
library which you can plug into the interpreter to add functionality.
You don't do that here (yet?), you're just experimenting in an ordinary
project, not a component project.

This decision isn't messing things up. Components written in Gambas are
just a superset of ordinary projects (IIRC?). But you shouldn't include
the additional meta data if you don't need to.

> 2) Select the parent directory (my work is in ~/dev/Gambas3).
> 
> 3) Give the project a name and title of 'MyToggleButton'.
> 
> 4) Drop a toggle button onto 'FTest' and run. All good so far.
> 
> The docs say:-
> 
> "Only the _IsControl and the _Properties constants are mandatory."
> 
> and
> 
> "These hidden constants are inherited like any other constant. So you
> don't have to actually declare them in each control, as soon as there is
> some inheritance relationships between them. "
> 
> So there is not much more to do since I do not want to change any
> behaviour or control properties.  Just get the control to show up in the
> control toolbox and allow users to design with it just like the original
> ToggleButton.
> 
> 5) From the docs "Each control must have an icon that will be displayed
> in the IDE control tool box.".  I was hoping that I would inherit these
> also. There are already two png files in
> '~/dev/gambas3/MyToggleButton/.hidden/control' so I change the images so
> I can distinguish them from the originals.
> 
> The docs say "The IDE can make binary packages of your component, as it
> does for any other normal projects." so
> 
> 6)  Project/Make/Executable - good no errors.
> 

Very good so far.

> 7) Close and save the project and create a new one that should show
> 'MyToggleButton' in the 'Form/Controls' tab but alas it is not there !
> 
> End
> ---
> 
> This may be a naive point of view but shouldn?t it just work like this if ?
> 

It's very natural that it is not there: your MyToggleButton is a class in
your first project. That's why the IDE can read it and add it to the
Controls tab. If you open another project without this class, the class...
cannot be found. Your custom controls are local to your project, so to say.

If you want to use it in other projects, you can
 - create a component, install it and plug it in (Project -> Properties ->
   Components),
 - create a so-called library [0] or
 - copy your classes over or create symlinks to them.

Regards,
Tobi

[0] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/library

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From pata.karlsson at ...626...  Mon Sep  8 16:07:18 2014
From: pata.karlsson at ...626... (Patrik Karlsson)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:07:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Loading non UTF-8 text files to TextArea
In-Reply-To: <540B5644.8010307@...1...>
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2014-09-06 20:45 GMT+02:00 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:

> Le 06/09/2014 20:29, Patrik Karlsson a ?crit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I got: Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert: assertion
> > 'g_utf8_validate (text, len, NULL)' failed
> > when trying TextArea.Text=File.Load("iso8859-1.txt")
> >
> > So my TextArea stays empty.
>
> If the file contents is not UTF-8, it's up to you to convert it to UTF-8.
>
> TextArea.Text = Conv(File.Load("iso8859-1.txt"), "ISO-8859-1", "UTF-8")
>
> >
> > I have found an old bug report regarding this tagged as wont fix.
> >
> > Since the file loads as expected in qt, is it future safe to use qt in my
> > app, will it always work?
> >
> > Does qt support "every other" encoding too?
> > Im asking since Im working on a gui for iconv.
> >
> > /Patrik
>
> It should not work in Qt either, unless it has some automatic conversion
> inside, or it is more tolerant.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> "It should not work..." :) In that case I'll be using Conv(), thanks!

/Patrik


From pata.karlsson at ...626...  Mon Sep  8 16:23:32 2014
From: pata.karlsson at ...626... (Patrik Karlsson)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:23:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Radio menu item
Message-ID: <CANiFHSHGUt=-ZZi5HqWV1+WrXQbju0qtCnU2zTSv6n4Sa4G9uA@...627...>

I was looking for a way to have menu items behave like radio 'buttons' and
the only thing I found was an old archive post from 2009.
http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/message/24068134/

Is it possible to have radio menu items now?

/Patrik

I guess I could make "Toggle" menu items behave like a radio group but I
don't like that idea.


From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep  8 16:47:50 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:47:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Gambas-devel] Creating a Control
In-Reply-To: <540DB59B.7000006@...3375...>
References: <540C77D0.1010404@...3375...> <540D9494.8050305@...3375...>
	<20140908123445.GA889@...2774...> <540DB59B.7000006@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140908144750.GB889@...2774...>

On Mon, 08 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Hi Tobi,
> 
> Thank you for the response. Please do not forget I am a complete newbie
> to Gambas and just trying to get bye following the docs without
> bothering anyone.
> 

Yes, I lose focus of such information while writing. Sorry.

> >> Start
> >> -----
> >> 1) create a new project and set its project type to 'Graphical
> >> application' and check the option 'Component programming'.
> >>
> > 
> > No, you are not programming a component here. A component is a shared
> > library which you can plug into the interpreter to add functionality.
> > You don't do that here (yet?), you're just experimenting in an ordinary
> > project, not a component project.
> 
> The docs say create a new project and mark its type as component. They
> also say that component controls are just ordinary projects.
> 

Yes, the link is actually about writing an own component (shared library)
but it's also cited frequently as a resource of how to implement your own
(graphical) control. Both topics are technically independent of one another,
i.e. you don't need to create a component to add new controls to your
project and new components don't always contain controls. But typically (?)
they're used together.

> What should I do instead of 1) ?
> 

If you just want to experiment/exercise, then don't check the "Component
programming" box. It's not a big deal if you do. The IDE will just behave a
little differently and the project contains some more bits of meta data.

You only need to check this box if you are
  a) exploring how to integrate your own component into other projects or
  b) seriously writing a useful component.

> > It's very natural that it is not there: your MyToggleButton is a class in
> > your first project.
> 
> Again from a newbies perspective I have made a new component.  Perhaps
> it should be found by Gambas (at least as a locally created new
> component)
>

Look at it from a developer's point of view: what would it take to collect
all custom controls from projects the user might have? It would need to scan
at least the entire home directory of the user (not all projects containing
custom controls might have ever been opened by that IDE; you could have just
downloaded them, e.g.). No sane program would do that on each startup.

The Gambas IDE requires *you* to put your stuff into one of the (very) finite
number of standard locations so that it can be found. One of those standard
locations is the project's source code directory and /usr/lib/gambas3 for
components.

[ But note (again?): I don't really work with custom (not in the official
  source tree) components and libraries. I just don't create them because my
  projects are simple and heterogenous enough to be self-contained. Almost
  all my experience here is from reading the docs and occasional mails about
  it. I just answer because I'm afraid Benoit is too busy and so nobody else
  will respond.

  Maybe I should stop doing that so that others don't think you are already
  "being treated"? Or maybe you should write to gambas-user where the chances
  are higher that people with custom components/libraries listen. Ceterum
  censeo Carthaginem esse delendam ;-) ]

> where my new projects can make use of it and also where it
> can be combined with additional new local controls to create more
> aggregated controls.
> 
> One way of achieving this would be to have a publish function that
> copies or moves the new code into the correct place for it to be picked
> up along with all the existing/native controls.
> 

Yes, this "publish" function is the "cp" program :-) Except there is no
great global "pool" of classes when using "cp".

If you miss an integrated function for this way of organisation, you are
very welcome to implement it once you can imagine how to do it.

> > cannot be found. Your custom controls are local to your project, so to say.
> 
> How can I use my new local control an new projects ?
> 
> > If you want to use it in other projects, you can
> >  - create a component, install it and plug it in (Project -> Properties ->
> >    Components),
> 
> Sorry I cannot find instruction for this.
> 

I think your next mail addresses this...

> w.r.t. 5) From the docs "Each control must have an icon that will be
> displayed
> in the IDE control tool box.".
> 
> Shouldn't the default be images from the original control ?
> 

So you suppose that if there is no picture to symbolise a control, the
parent class should be drawn. I would agree. But maybe this logic is just
not integrated yet (I think it would require to extract files from other
components). Let's (implicitely) ask Benoit.

Regards,
Tobi

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From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep  8 17:23:20 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 17:23:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Radio menu item
In-Reply-To: <CANiFHSHGUt=-ZZi5HqWV1+WrXQbju0qtCnU2zTSv6n4Sa4G9uA@...627...>
References: <CANiFHSHGUt=-ZZi5HqWV1+WrXQbju0qtCnU2zTSv6n4Sa4G9uA@...627...>
Message-ID: <20140908152320.GC889@...2774...>

On Mon, 08 Sep 2014, Patrik Karlsson wrote:
> I was looking for a way to have menu items behave like radio 'buttons' and
> the only thing I found was an old archive post from 2009.
> http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/message/24068134/
> 
> Is it possible to have radio menu items now?
> 
> /Patrik
> 
> I guess I could make "Toggle" menu items behave like a radio group but I
> don't like that idea.

Why not? How else would you signify to your user that it's not an ordinary
menu? Do you know if the traditional look of RadioButtons is supported in
menus in QT and GTK? Even Kate -- which is what comes to my mind when I
think about monstrous menus -- has this CheckBox-like look for RadioButton-
like menus (in the version which I use).

Attached is a project that implements such RadioButton-like menus using a
hack (because the IDE menu editor doesn't seem to be extensible enough to
manage custom properties of the Menu class -- nobody would expect the IDE to
be able to do that!): it uses the Tag field of the menus. You can make your
Menu a Toggle = True one and set the Tag to a string like "Radio:<GroupName>".

Then, whenever such a Menu is activated, all other menus of the same group
(in the same window) are de-activated.

It also overrides the native Menu class to integrate seemlessly and let you
work with the IDE menu editor. If you can dismiss that, you can make the
code cleaner, of course.

Regards,
Tobi

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From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep  8 17:44:34 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:44:34 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 556 in gambas: IDE aborts [13] null object in
 class file when copying name of a static public variable
Message-ID: <0-6813199134517018827-8418746497562254062-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Status: New
Owner: ----
Labels: Version Type-Bug Priority-Medium OpSys-Any Dist-Any Arch-Any  
Desktop-Any GUI-Any

New issue 556 by michaeli... at ...626...: IDE aborts [13] null object  in  
class file when copying name of a static public variable
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=556

1) Describe the problem.
The problem only occurs if you have already bee using the IDE for some time.
Switch to editing a class file just containing Static Public variables as  
below.
Double click to select one of the file names.
Right click and select copy.  The following message occurs.  If you  
remember to use ctrl-c for the copy it does not occur.

This application has raised an error and must abort
[13] null object
FEditor.CreateMenu.506

' Gambas class file

Static Public start_time As Float = 0
Static Public end_time As Float = 0
Static Public B4process_1_fileLoop As Float = 0
Static Public AfterProcess_1_fileLoop As Float = 0
Static Public B4process_2_fileLoop As Float = 0
Static Public AfterProcess_2_fileLoop As Float = 0


2) Give information about your system.
[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.13.0-24-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Linux Mint 17 Qiana
Desktop=MATE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=7863M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4



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From pata.karlsson at ...626...  Mon Sep  8 20:38:33 2014
From: pata.karlsson at ...626... (Patrik Karlsson)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:38:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Radio menu item
In-Reply-To: <20140908152320.GC889@...2774...>
References: <CANiFHSHGUt=-ZZi5HqWV1+WrXQbju0qtCnU2zTSv6n4Sa4G9uA@...627...>
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2014-09-08 17:23 GMT+02:00 Tobias Boege <taboege at ...626...>:

> > I guess I could make "Toggle" menu items behave like a radio group but >
> don't like that idea.
>
> Why not? How else would you signify to your user that it's not an ordinary
> menu?


Well, toggle is ok, what I do not want for a radio menu item to have the
visual style of an ordinary CheckBoxMenuItem.


> Do you know if the traditional look of RadioButtons is supported in
> menus in QT and GTK?


Yes. I'm in Ubuntu now and the gnome-calculator and nautilus file manager
has radio menu items looking as it should be.

Attached is a project that implements such RadioButton-like menus using a
> hack


That's a really nice trick!

Still, would it be possible to have real radio menu items?

/Patrik


From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep  8 22:28:04 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 22:28:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db: NOT NULL fields?
Message-ID: <20140908202804.GF889@...2774...>

Hi,

when creating a table in a database, I wonder if it's possible to have
fields tagged as "NOT NULL" [0]. I don't know if it's there already or
if it would be portable across other DMBS (just asking on behalf of
another person).

I would imagine a new optional argument to Table.Fields.Add()...

Regards,
Tobi

[0] http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/create-table.html in MySQL.

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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep  8 22:34:12 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 22:34:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db: NOT NULL fields?
In-Reply-To: <20140908202804.GF889@...2774...>
References: <20140908202804.GF889@...2774...>
Message-ID: <540E12C4.5020808@...1...>

Le 08/09/2014 22:28, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> when creating a table in a database, I wonder if it's possible to have
> fields tagged as "NOT NULL" [0]. I don't know if it's there already or
> if it would be portable across other DMBS (just asking on behalf of
> another person).
>
> I would imagine a new optional argument to Table.Fields.Add()...
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>
> [0] http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/create-table.html in MySQL.
>

To have a "NOT NULL" field, you just have to give its default value when 
creating it.

Regards,

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From gambas at ...2524...  Tue Sep  9 12:57:21 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 10:57:21 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 257 in gambas: Database password retrieval
 error and abort in IDE
In-Reply-To: <15-6813199134517018827-17207463185108027121-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <15-6813199134517018827-17207463185108027121-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-17207463185108027121-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <16-6813199134517018827-17207463185108027121-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>


Comment #16 on issue 257 by raulmm... at ...626...: Database password  
retrieval error and abort in IDE
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=257

I have the same problem. I have migrated from Xubuntu to Linux Mint 17 KDE,  
but the problem persists. First, do not save passwords in XCFE knew. Out of  
bounds, he said. Then So, I tried KDE. I have kwallet disabled, and now the  
problem is that it does not handle well the sql user passwords. When I  
establish a connection, it seems to work, I have access to the tables and  
the data stored on them. But when I run the program, I get the hateful  
warning.
gb.db: warning: unable to retrieve connection password: Dams / Connection1:  
Unknown symbol 'Passwords' in class 'Desktop'

It is a problem Gambas? Or all desktops I've tried?

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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Tue Sep  9 14:07:44 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 05:07:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 Text CodePage problem
Message-ID: <1410264464734-48028.post@...3046...>

Hi,

I've just installed Gambas3 on a fresh Lubuntu 12.04.5.

And I got a problem.

It's Ukrainian language.

How to fix It?

<http://gambas.8142.n7.nabble.com/file/n48028/2014-09-09-150043_1280x1024_scrot.png> 



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From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep  9 14:15:05 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:15:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 Text CodePage problem
In-Reply-To: <1410264464734-48028.post@...3046...>
References: <1410264464734-48028.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <20140909121505.GA994@...2774...>

On Tue, 09 Sep 2014, abbat81 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've just installed Gambas3 on a fresh Lubuntu 12.04.5.
> 
> And I got a problem.
> 
> It's Ukrainian language.
> 
> How to fix It?
> 
> <http://gambas.8142.n7.nabble.com/file/n48028/2014-09-09-150043_1280x1024_scrot.png> 
> 

What does

  $ locale

say?

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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep  9 14:23:50 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:23:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 Text CodePage problem
In-Reply-To: <1410264464734-48028.post@...3046...>
References: <1410264464734-48028.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <540EF156.4050201@...1...>

Le 09/09/2014 14:07, abbat81 a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> I've just installed Gambas3 on a fresh Lubuntu 12.04.5.
>
> And I got a problem.
>
> It's Ukrainian language.
>
> How to fix It?
>
> <http://gambas.8142.n7.nabble.com/file/n48028/2014-09-09-150043_1280x1024_scrot.png>
>
>

Everything is UTF-8, so the problem may be in the font you are using.

-- 
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From abbat.81 at ...787...  Tue Sep  9 14:23:27 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 05:23:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 Text CodePage problem
In-Reply-To: <20140909121505.GA994@...2774...>
References: <1410264464734-48028.post@...3046...>
	<20140909121505.GA994@...2774...>
Message-ID: <1410265407763-48030.post@...3046...>

$locale 
LANG=uk_UA.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="uk_UA.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=
Tobias Boege-2 wrote
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014, abbat81 wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've just installed Gambas3 on a fresh Lubuntu 12.04.5.
>> 
>> And I got a problem.
>> 
>> It's Ukrainian language.
>> 
>> How to fix It?
>> 
>> &lt;http://gambas.8142.n7.nabble.com/file/n48028/2014-09-09-150043_1280x1024_scrot.png&gt; 
>> 
> 
> What does
> 
>   $ locale
> 
> say?
> 
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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep  9 14:24:51 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:24:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 Text CodePage problem
In-Reply-To: <540EF156.4050201@...1...>
References: <1410264464734-48028.post@...3046...>
	<540EF156.4050201@...1...>
Message-ID: <540EF193.9010501@...1...>

Le 09/09/2014 14:23, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> Le 09/09/2014 14:07, abbat81 a ?crit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've just installed Gambas3 on a fresh Lubuntu 12.04.5.
>>
>> And I got a problem.
>>
>> It's Ukrainian language.
>>
>> How to fix It?
>>
>> <http://gambas.8142.n7.nabble.com/file/n48028/2014-09-09-150043_1280x1024_scrot.png>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Everything is UTF-8, so the problem may be in the font you are using.
>

If it is not the font, just send your project so that I can look at it.

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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Sep  9 14:46:58 2014
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:46:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Groups in Report
In-Reply-To: <CAFM-pntwtMZdUnXm+QyFw31sLxH0q6BaBkt0VG1ehKcm1vsRTg@...627...>
References: <540D97EF.2050307@...626...>
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Message-ID: <CAFkCsL6RRw+xPOrOHToyu2ArwHP1xvz=b7j3MsTF-hmkLBhCMg@...627...>

Hi roki, actually you eed to do it manually by making a procedure that
generate the recurssive part for each group elements.

I need absolutly find a way to correct the automatic indexation  bug...

2014-09-08 14:19 GMT+02:00 Julio Sanchez <jusabejusabe at ...626...>:
> Roki:
>
> Hi, create a class that is able to make reports easily with the report
> component.
> You can see forum-es.org prawns (that's Spanish), but it is very easy to
> use.
>
> http://www.gambas-es.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3711&highlight=generador
>
>
> Greetings
>
> Julio
>
>
>
> 2014-09-08 13:50 GMT+02:00 Roki <n.rogozarski at ...626...>:
>
>> Ok guys! I have a question about creating a group in gb.report.
>> I want to show data for the vehicles, which I took from a database and
>> grouped according to their type.
>> For example :
>>   ----- Cars
>>              --- Licence plate | Make        | Model  | sm3   | kW
>>              --- ST-5555AB     | Mercedes | C220   | 1989  | 88
>>              and so on...
>> ----- Truck
>>              --- ST-1111AC     | IVECO      |  240L   | 4500   | 102
>>              and so on...
>>
>> I successfully created a report with the data, but stuck with creating
>> groups.
>> Is there any small example, which will help ???
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Want excitement?
>> Manually upgrade your production database.
>> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
>> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>>
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From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep  9 15:03:59 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:03:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 Text CodePage problem
In-Reply-To: <1410265407763-48030.post@...3046...>
References: <1410264464734-48028.post@...3046...>
	<20140909121505.GA994@...2774...>
	<1410265407763-48030.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <20140909130359.GC994@...2774...>

On Tue, 09 Sep 2014, abbat81 wrote:
> $locale 
> LANG=uk_UA.UTF-8
> LANGUAGE=
> LC_CTYPE="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_NUMERIC="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_TIME="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_COLLATE="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_MONETARY="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_MESSAGES="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_PAPER="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_NAME="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_ADDRESS="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_TELEPHONE="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="uk_UA.UTF-8"
> LC_ALL=

These settings tell the IDE that you want Ukrainian messages. I don't
know if /etc/locale.conf is the right place to configure your locale
on your system but maybe you should look for it.

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From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep  9 23:15:19 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 23:15:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Gambas-devel] Creating a Control
In-Reply-To: <540F0C45.6070903@...3375...>
References: <CAFM-pnsVFtwv+fGboWWo+cQ2oPKnXhvz6tBfRQuzxChf8MAaeg@...627...>
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Message-ID: <20140909211519.GI994@...2774...>

On Tue, 09 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> So to elaborate: If a user wishes to create a new type of control then
> it is highly likely that the control will be based on existing controls.
>  So as an example, if the new control contains a ToggleButton and the
> way that ToggleButton is used in the new control is no different from
> the original stock ToggleButton then the user should not be required to
> write any code to implement the ToggleButton.
> 

I can't imagine what you are trying to do. It sounds like you want to take a
class A and derive another class A' from it -- but so that A = A' ("=" means
equality of code). The way to go here would be: just use A. No coding effort
needed then. (See, optimising this task seems pointless because nobody ever
does it.)

BUT, what you *may* want to do is to compose a new control out of existing
ones, one of which is of class A. This we would call (at least I do it) a
"compound control". (If that's not your goal you might still want to remember
this for later.) You can't do that without some coding because most likely
you write such a thing for a purpose (so that it does something special,
which, in turn, you must code) -- but it's a task that is actually kinda
fun (!) in Gambas.

There is a small compound control of mine which I could rip out of its
project for you to see: it is a smaller version of the ColorChooser from
gb.form with discrete colour steps. (I needed a dialog-less, visual and
not-so-fine-grained way to pick some colours out of little space on a Form,
so the MinimalColorChooser was born.)

The general strategy to create a compound control whose name shall be A, is
the following:

 1. Create a form named F##A (you know the C preprocessor's token paste
    operator, right?),
 2. Arrange the controls you want A to be made of on the form (the good
    thing is that you can design this by using the IDE's Form editor),
 3. Wire the controls' actions together in the Form's class file,
 4. Create properties, methods and events for your purpose in F##A,
 5. Create your actual class A which is Export'd and Inherits UserControl.
    You create an instance of F##A on yourself in the constructor of that
    class (since you inherit UserControl, you can create controls on your
    own surface and a Form can be created as a container on a window, too,
    not only as a top-level window),
 6. Expose the needed parts of F##A's interface to public through the
    interface of your exported class A,
 7. Do the IDE integration stuff, i.e. draw an icon and set the public
    constants which govern IDE integration, in A.

That's at least what I do and just did to create the attached project. The
relevant parts are in the directory MinimalColorChooser. I think it's normal
if it takes you a while to get to grips with it as I consider custom control
creation an advanced topic. But it's beautiful to do with Gambas.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate!

[ You *will* also want to explore the automatic layouting capabilities of
  Gambas, if you don't already have experience with it from other languages.
  You will see that the FMain in my project is full of containers like HBox
  and VBox. These arrange their children in special ways. The key properties
  to look at here are: Arrangement, Expand, Margin, Spacing and sometimes
  AutoResize. Take a weekend or so off (judging from my own experience) to
  experiment with these and how a wrong setting can mess up everything :-)

  To get motivated: arrange some controls on a Form, run your project and
  resize the Form -- not very pretty. Now resize the window in my project. ]

> If this idea is extrapolated to its simplest form then a user should be
> able to create a new ToggleButton by informing the IDE that this is a
> new control and that the control is based on the stock ToggleButton and
> that is all that needs to be done. After all what is the point of
> inheritance if you have to add code just to get back the functionality
> that was already there in the first place.

Note that you are talking about IDE integration here (right?). You can write

--8<--[ MyToggleButton.class ]----------------------------------------------
' Gambas class file

Inherits ToggleButton
--8<------------------------------------------------------------------------

and the interpreter will be happy and everything will be there. Integrating
a control into the IDE requires some more things. I don't see yet why it is
so important to make it require even less effort. Maybe you've got real
world experience here [ heck, you've worked longer as a developer than I am
alive :-) ], but I deem custom controls to be a thing which newbies should
stay away from.

Regards,
Tobi

PS: I insist on keeping gambas-user CC'd :-P

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 00:02:04 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:02:04 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 556 in gambas: IDE aborts [13] null object
 in class file when copying name of a static public variable
In-Reply-To: <0-6813199134517018827-8418746497562254062-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Updates:
	Status: NeedsInfo
	Labels: -Version Version-3.5.0

Comment #1 on issue 556 by benoit.m... at ...626...: IDE aborts [13] null  
object  in class file when copying name of a static public variable
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=556

Please post your full project, otherwise I can't debug!

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From bbruen at ...2308...  Wed Sep 10 04:50:57 2014
From: bbruen at ...2308... (B Bruen)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:20:57 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] The new IDE opening screen
Message-ID: <20140910122057.3d132762b4192a02ead3eeb5@...2308...>

Simple question: What does the search function actually search? Obviously by project name but what else?
I would have thought it also searched the project description but I am getting results that don't match that expectation.

tia

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 10:13:26 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 08:13:26 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
Message-ID: <0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Status: New
Owner: ----
Labels: Version-3.5.0 Type-Crash Priority-High Dist-Ubuntu Usability  
Desktop-KDE GUI-Any

New issue 557 by lukadisa... at ...626...: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

Hi,
I have installed gambas3 on my kubuntu with gambas repository but when I  
launch gamabs3 I receive stack overflow error (screen shot 1.png). I also  
try to set unlimited memory to stack on my system (with command ulimit -s  
unlimited) but I continue tu receive the same error. I try to compile  
gambas3 but I receive the same error. I try to launch gambas3 from root and  
it start. Can you help me??

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From taboege at ...626...  Wed Sep 10 13:25:30 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:25:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Gambas-devel] Creating a Control
In-Reply-To: <54101CD4.5090403@...3375...>
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Hi Tobias,
> 
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> I am simply trying to improve the user experience while I can still see
> things from a newbies perspective.
> 
> Not all users find writing code fun.  Many have a problem to solve or
> wish to make boring or time consuming actions less so.
> 
> Surely the Gambas community want to expand their user base !
> 

Yes! OK, I'll stop arguing about it. It's a noble objective and we can
discuss things when there is an actual manifestation of it.

> [ big 8< ]

> > Note that you are talking about IDE integration here (right?). You can write
> > 
> > --8<--[ MyToggleButton.class ]----------------------------------------------
> > ' Gambas class file
> > 
> > Inherits ToggleButton
> > --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > and the interpreter will be happy and everything will be there. Integrating
> 
> May be the documentation should reflect that.
> 
> > I don't see yet why it is
> > so important to make it require even less effort. Maybe you've got real
> > world experience here [ heck, you've worked longer as a developer than I am
> 
> > alive :-) ], but I deem custom controls to be a thing which newbies should
> > stay away from.
> 
> Should they be excluded by technical jargon or have to read reams of
> documentation and learn strange (to them) concepts ?
> 

Maybe we hit a mentality border here. Gambas was my first programming
language and I taught the basics myself in a few months (by looking at the
examples only and spending way too much time at the computer; I didn't
know what forums and mailing lists _were_ back then).

I believe a newbie should take time to explore things themselves and make
lots of errors. The frustration one experiences helps to remember important
points ;-) -- that's at least what served me well enough and I always found
the fruits to be rewarding.

With time comes a good understanding of how the Gambas system "thinks" about
your code and you can understand more advanced topics with great ease. I
have programmed quite some time in Gambas without knowing about custom
controls. But when I first needed to make one, I just did it. With the
experience I had, it fell into shape naturally. As a Mathematics student, I
like the analogy to... Mathematics: if you're a normal person, you _need_ to
go through vast amounts of exercises to get a feeling for your objects and
ideas.

So technically, yes, I want people to work hard and know Gambas before they
go to custom controls because if they do, they are probably already fit
enough to do it by themselves.

You must understand: That's the way I went and since I'm content with it,
my reflex is to try to impose it on others. But OTOH, I realise that not
everyone likes to go through this process -- let alone have time to do so --
just to learn a programming language so your attempts are very appreciated.
Whatever helps people, right?

> > PS: I insist on keeping gambas-user CC'd :-P
> 
> Sorry what is this ?
> 

I already talked about it. It's a mailing list dedicated to questions about
programming *in* Gambas. Things like how to integrate controls into the IDE,
make custom controls, feature requests and everything that has to do with
writing code in Gambas, as opposed to gambas-devel (which we're currently
at) which is for questions related to contributions/internals and programming
*for* Gambas (mostly in C/C++). I keep CC'ing them because I think this
discussion is relevant to that list mostly. Also the people there are _the_
users of the IDE and may have opinions/suggestions.

Regards,
Tobi

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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 10 14:36:06 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:36:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] The new IDE opening screen
In-Reply-To: <20140910122057.3d132762b4192a02ead3eeb5@...2308...>
References: <20140910122057.3d132762b4192a02ead3eeb5@...2308...>
Message-ID: <541045B6.2020301@...1...>

Le 10/09/2014 04:50, B Bruen a ?crit :
> Simple question: What does the search function actually search? Obviously by project name but what else?
> I would have thought it also searched the project description but I am getting results that don't match that expectation.
>
> tia
>

You're right. It seraches in the project name, title, authors... but not 
in the project description! A miss.

I will add that.

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 14:39:17 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:39:17 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
In-Reply-To: <0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Updates:
	Status: NeedsInfo
	Labels: -Type-Crash -Priority-High Type-Bug Priority-Medium

Comment #1 on issue 557 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

You must give all the requested information about your system, and tell how  
exactly you installed Gambas. Otherwise nobody can help you!

P.S. You should better use the mailing-list for installation problems like  
that. The bug tracker is mainly for bug in the language itself.


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From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Wed Sep 10 16:01:25 2014
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:01:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about .project ExecPath and .settings
	[Executable]/Path
Message-ID: <1410357685.6336.13.camel@...40...>

Salut Beno?t,

first I thought it only concerns projects where type=Library, 
but now I think you changed that everywhere.
The .project ExecPath moved to .settings [Executable]/Path, right?

I ask you, because I didn't find anything about in svn commit logs.
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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 16:40:32 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:40:32 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
In-Reply-To: <1-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Comment #2 on issue 557 by lukadisanto: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

My system is kubuntu 14.04 64bit.
My kernel is 3.13.0-35-generic
My kde version is 4.13.3
My copumputer have 8 gb ddr3 ram and my cpu have 8 cores 2.2GHz.
I have installed a 250GB ssd.
Now I have reinstalled gambas using ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
(sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install gambas3)

What others informations do you need?

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 17:01:00 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:01:00 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
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Comment #3 on issue 557 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

In the IDE, "?" menu, and then "system information". It will give you all  
what I need.

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 17:41:37 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:41:37 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
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Comment #4 on issue 557 by jussi.la... at ...626...: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

I don't think the IDE work in this situation..?

What is your desktop theme? Can you try to change it and see whether it  
changes the situation?

What is your Qt (libQtcore4) version?

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 17:46:36 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:46:36 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
In-Reply-To: <4-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Comment #5 on issue 557 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

Indeed, sorry! :-)

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 17:54:02 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:54:02 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
In-Reply-To: <5-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Comment #6 on issue 557 by lukadisanto: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

my libqtcore4 version is 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4
(aptitude show libqtcore4)

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 18:17:09 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:17:09 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
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Comment #7 on issue 557 by jussi.la... at ...626...: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

Theme information is still missing. Stock class is for icons etc, so that  
is important.

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 18:24:44 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:24:44 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
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Comment #8 on issue 557 by lukadisanto: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

If i change icon theme gambas work!!! thank you!!!

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 18:39:35 2014
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:39:35 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
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Comment #9 on issue 557 by jussi.la... at ...626...: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

OK, but Gambas should not crash with any theme...
Please can you tell what was the theme that caused this?

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 18:49:38 2014
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:49:38 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
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Comment #10 on issue 557 by lukadisanto: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

Yes, the theme is FaenzaFlattr.

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 18:51:49 2014
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:51:49 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
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Comment #11 on issue 557 by lukadisanto: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/FaenzaFlattr?content=164770 (icon link)

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 19:22:54 2014
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:22:54 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
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Comment #12 on issue 557 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

It may be fixed in revision #6465. Please tell me if a few days when the  
gambas-team ppa is updated.

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 10 20:39:01 2014
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:39:01 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
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Comment #13 on issue 557 by lukadisanto: Stack Overflow
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Ok, i will tell you.  Thank you

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From gambas at ...2524...  Thu Sep 11 17:44:12 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:44:12 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 558 in gambas: Gambas is missing a Radio Menu
	Item
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Status: New
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Desktop-Any GUI-Any

New issue 558 by pata.kar... at ...626...: Gambas is missing a Radio Menu Item
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=558

1) Gambas is missing a Radio Menu Item. It's a common UI element and it's  
bad design letting a checkbox indicate a "radio item".


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From taboege at ...626...  Thu Sep 11 19:57:59 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:57:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content in a
 DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
Message-ID: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...>

Hi,

attached is a project which shows odd behaviour. At first glance, the source
code seems OK to me, so it might be a bug.

It needs:
 - MySQL running, a user named "test" without password but with the ability
   to create a database.table "Kontakte.kontakte".

To reproduce:
 - (If you start the application without the above-mentioned table, it will
    automatically be created and filled with sample data.)
 - Select a record,
 - Go to the DataControl for the "Vorname" field and delete its contents,
 - Click anywhere into the DataBrowser,
 - Application hangs.

Regards,
Tobi

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From t.lee.davidson at ...626...  Thu Sep 11 22:36:59 2014
From: t.lee.davidson at ...626... (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:36:59 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
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I get the same behavior: application hangs (with mysqld taking about 
20-40% of CPU and gbx3 taking about 7-16%).

Upon relaunch of the app, the db table does indeed appear to have been 
updated.


On 09/11/2014 01:57 PM, Tobias Boege wrote:
> Hi,
>
> attached is a project which shows odd behaviour. At first glance, the source
> code seems OK to me, so it might be a bug.
>
> It needs:
>   - MySQL running, a user named "test" without password but with the ability
>     to create a database.table "Kontakte.kontakte".
>
> To reproduce:
>   - (If you start the application without the above-mentioned table, it will
>      automatically be created and filled with sample data.)
>   - Select a record,
>   - Go to the DataControl for the "Vorname" field and delete its contents,
>   - Click anywhere into the DataBrowser,
>   - Application hangs.
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>
>
>
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From taboege at ...626...  Thu Sep 11 22:36:41 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:36:41 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
In-Reply-To: <541207EB.2060001@...626...>
References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...>
 <541207EB.2060001@...626...>
Message-ID: <20140911203641.GL1564@...2774...>

On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> I get the same behavior: application hangs (with mysqld taking about 
> 20-40% of CPU and gbx3 taking about 7-16%).
> 
> Upon relaunch of the app, the db table does indeed appear to have been 
> updated.
> 

Right.

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From johny.provoost at ...27...  Thu Sep 11 23:23:58 2014
From: johny.provoost at ...27... (Johny Provoost)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 23:23:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] error on gb.report.clear
Message-ID: <541212EE.10205@...27...>

Does anyone knows why I get an error [unknown symbol '_Free' in class 
'Reportsection'] when i use .clear (ex. labels.clear) in a report?
Everything else in the report works, the only thing is that I must close 
the program before print a new report, otherwise I get the same text in 
the report over and over again.  I thought that report.clear should help 
this, but then I get an error.

[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.13.0-35-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
Desktop=GNOME
Theme=QGtk
Language=nl_BE.UTF-8
Memory=2945M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4


Kind Regards,
Johny



From chrisml at ...3340...  Fri Sep 12 00:02:21 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:02:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
In-Reply-To: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...> (sfid-)
References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...> (sfid-)
Message-ID: <54121BED.3060008@...3340...>

Hi Tobi,

Am 11.09.2014 um 19:57 schrieb Tobias Boege:

> attached is a project which shows odd behaviour. At first glance, the source
> code seems OK to me, so it might be a bug.
> 
> It needs:
>  - MySQL running, a user named "test" without password but with the ability
>    to create a database.table "Kontakte.kontakte".
> 
> To reproduce:
>  - (If you start the application without the above-mentioned table, it will
>     automatically be created and filled with sample data.)
>  - Select a record,
>  - Go to the DataControl for the "Vorname" field and delete its contents,
>  - Click anywhere into the DataBrowser,
>  - Application hangs.

By a look at "create_table.sql" I see you have not so much sense of
databases ;-)

1st: Use backticks in column names only if you want to name with
"reserved words" like "if", "select" or names with commas or blancs. A
name for a column like "nachname" needs no backticks.

2nd: ("ACHTUNG ... ") Primary key is unique per table. To use "Nachname"
as PK prevents you from inserting "Schmidt" more than one time in a
table. Usually one uses a column with long integer for PK as a unique
number per tuple (datensatz). That means a unique number for example per
customer or invoice.

Now to the code:

    sSQL_Anweisung = "INSERT INTO `kontakte` VALUES "
    sSQL_Anweisung &= "('1','Arno','Adler','Arneburg','39606','Am Hafen
3','03937864322'),"
...

could be eventually dangerous. You should define the columns where you
want to insert your data:

"insert into kontakte (id, vorname, ...) values (1, 'Tobias', ...) (2,
'Albert', ...)"

etc.

Ok, I do not use DataBrowser, so I do not know how it works and why
MySQL hangs. Normally a database "hang" is a deadlock. This means two
connections try to write the same tuple at the same time.

You could see this by increasing verbosity of the database logging and
watching the database logfiles with tail -f ...

It seems that you use 2 connections at the same time in your application
that want to write the same tuple (or table, MyISAM engine  does table
level locking IMHO).

BTW: Table locking is bad (only makes sense for single user). Good
database engines do only row or even column locking for write (or delete).

Remove that code that creates a table from the connect function (that is
really bad). Use one connection which you create in a module (not
class), so you get a singleton and do writing over this one connection
one after the other.

Then you get no deadlocks.


Alles Gute

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From chrisml at ...3340...  Fri Sep 12 00:28:15 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:28:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
In-Reply-To: <54121BED.3060008@...3340...> (sfid-)
References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...> (sfid-)
	<54121BED.3060008@...3340...> (sfid-)
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Hi Tobi,

I wrote:

> Use one connection which you create in a module (not
> class)

Now I saw, you use a module. That's ok. But I am quite sure you create a
deadlock. But I'm too tired to test it now.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadlock_%28Informatik%29


Alles Gute

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From taboege at ...626...  Fri Sep 12 00:34:28 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:34:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
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References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...>
 <54121BED.3060008@...3340...>
Message-ID: <20140911223428.GM1564@...2774...>

On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Hi Tobi,
> 
> Am 11.09.2014 um 19:57 schrieb Tobias Boege:
> 
> > attached is a project which shows odd behaviour. At first glance, the source
> > code seems OK to me, so it might be a bug.
> > 
> > It needs:
> >  - MySQL running, a user named "test" without password but with the ability
> >    to create a database.table "Kontakte.kontakte".
> > 
> > To reproduce:
> >  - (If you start the application without the above-mentioned table, it will
> >     automatically be created and filled with sample data.)
> >  - Select a record,
> >  - Go to the DataControl for the "Vorname" field and delete its contents,
> >  - Click anywhere into the DataBrowser,
> >  - Application hangs.
> 
> By a look at "create_table.sql" I see you have not so much sense of
> databases ;-)
> 

This is not my code. I'm just forwarding a bug report to the list.

> 1st: Use backticks in column names only if you want to name with
> "reserved words" like "if", "select" or names with commas or blancs. A
> name for a column like "nachname" needs no backticks.
> 
> 2nd: ("ACHTUNG ... ") Primary key is unique per table. To use "Nachname"
> as PK prevents you from inserting "Schmidt" more than one time in a
> table. Usually one uses a column with long integer for PK as a unique
> number per tuple (datensatz). That means a unique number for example per
> customer or invoice.
> 
> Now to the code:
> 
>     sSQL_Anweisung = "INSERT INTO `kontakte` VALUES "
>     sSQL_Anweisung &= "('1','Arno','Adler','Arneburg','39606','Am Hafen
> 3','03937864322'),"
> ...
> 
> could be eventually dangerous. You should define the columns where you
> want to insert your data:
> 
> "insert into kontakte (id, vorname, ...) values (1, 'Tobias', ...) (2,
> 'Albert', ...)"
> 
> etc.
> 

That's how I learned it in school, too. And guess what: the material I
learned it from was from the same person which did it wrong here :-)

> Ok, I do not use DataBrowser, so I do not know how it works and why
> MySQL hangs. Normally a database "hang" is a deadlock. This means two
> connections try to write the same tuple at the same time.
> 
> You could see this by increasing verbosity of the database logging and
> watching the database logfiles with tail -f ...
> 
> It seems that you use 2 connections at the same time in your application
> that want to write the same tuple (or table, MyISAM engine  does table
> level locking IMHO).
> 

Umm, I don't think there are two Connections involved here... Where do you
see that?

> BTW: Table locking is bad (only makes sense for single user). Good
> database engines do only row or even column locking for write (or delete).
> 
> Remove that code that creates a table from the connect function (that is
> really bad).
>

This piece of code there I recognise. It's from the PictureDatabase example
delivered with Gambas. So you suggest keeping table creation somewhere else?

Rumour has it that you want to contribute to Gambas, so changing the
PictureDatabase example to be less "bad" would be a good start!

> Use one connection which you create in a module (not
> class), so you get a singleton and do writing over this one connection
> one after the other.
> 
> Then you get no deadlocks.
> 

Have you tested that? Do you have a patch for the project?

Regards,
Tobi

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From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 12 00:45:05 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:45:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
In-Reply-To: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...>
References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...>
Message-ID: <541225F1.1090808@...1...>

Le 11/09/2014 19:57, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> attached is a project which shows odd behaviour. At first glance, the source
> code seems OK to me, so it might be a bug.
>
> It needs:
>   - MySQL running, a user named "test" without password but with the ability
>     to create a database.table "Kontakte.kontakte".
>
> To reproduce:
>   - (If you start the application without the above-mentioned table, it will
>      automatically be created and filled with sample data.)
>   - Select a record,
>   - Go to the DataControl for the "Vorname" field and delete its contents,
>   - Click anywhere into the DataBrowser,
>   - Application hangs.
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>

I confirm that there is an infinite recursion somewhere.

Now I'm trying to find it...

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 12 02:46:14 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 02:46:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
In-Reply-To: <541225F1.1090808@...1...>
References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...>
	<541225F1.1090808@...1...>
Message-ID: <54124256.5080901@...1...>

Le 12/09/2014 00:45, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> Le 11/09/2014 19:57, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> attached is a project which shows odd behaviour. At first glance, the
>> source
>> code seems OK to me, so it might be a bug.
>>
>> It needs:
>>   - MySQL running, a user named "test" without password but with the
>> ability
>>     to create a database.table "Kontakte.kontakte".
>>
>> To reproduce:
>>   - (If you start the application without the above-mentioned table,
>> it will
>>      automatically be created and filled with sample data.)
>>   - Select a record,
>>   - Go to the DataControl for the "Vorname" field and delete its
>> contents,
>>   - Click anywhere into the DataBrowser,
>>   - Application hangs.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tobi
>>
>
> I confirm that there is an infinite recursion somewhere.
>
> Now I'm trying to find it...
>
> Regards,
>

It should be fixed in revision #6467.

But you made a mistake by wanting an editable DataView on a read-only 
DataSource. It couldn't work. I fixed that by making DataView and 
DataControl read-only if their DataSource is read-only too.

Regards,

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From chrisml at ...3340...  Fri Sep 12 08:47:29 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:47:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
In-Reply-To: <20140911223428.GM1564@...2774...> (sfid-)
References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...> <54121BED.3060008@...3340...>
	<20140911223428.GM1564@...2774...> (sfid-)
Message-ID: <54129701.9030500@...3340...>

Hi Tobi,

Am 12.09.2014 um 00:34 schrieb Tobias Boege:

>> By a look at "create_table.sql" I see you have not so much sense of
>> databases ;-)
> 
> This is not my code. I'm just forwarding a bug report to the list.

Ok :) Sorry for that ...

>> could be eventually dangerous. You should define the columns where you
>> want to insert your data:
>>
>> "insert into kontakte (id, vorname, ...) values (1, 'Tobias', ...) (2,
>> 'Albert', ...)"
>>
>> etc.
>>
> That's how I learned it in school, too. And guess what: the material I
> learned it from was from the same person which did it wrong here :-)

:-) Not every teacher is a good db programmer. It's better to name the
columns you want to access, because not always you use all columns and
later on you can change the order of columns in a table without breaking
your previously written program, as long as you do not remove columns.

>> It seems that you use 2 connections at the same time in your application
>> that want to write the same tuple (or table, MyISAM engine  does table
>> level locking IMHO).
> 
> Umm, I don't think there are two Connections involved here... Where do you
> see that?

I did not test it. I see this by the symptoms. Your application and the
database create load but do nothing. I guess, they talk to each other
and say:

App: Write Data please
DB: No, forbidden, table is locked, try later ...
App: Write Data please
DB: No, forbidden, table is locked, try later ...
...

And because there is nobody else writing on the same table except your
app, there must be the error.

>> Remove that code that creates a table from the connect function (that is
>> really bad).
> 
> This piece of code there I recognise. It's from the PictureDatabase example
> delivered with Gambas. So you suggest keeping table creation somewhere else?

Yes, the function establishes one time the connection to db and this
functionality is normally used ever and ever in a database frontend
program. Why should it contain the functionality to create tables?

> Rumour has it that you want to contribute to Gambas, so changing the
> PictureDatabase example to be less "bad" would be a good start!

Grmbl.

> Have you tested that? Do you have a patch for the project?

No. I don't even know how to create a patch for Gambas.

Where is the example you are talking about? ... Ah ok, now I see it. But
that works. The db connection code is not very well designed (mixes
functionality), but ok ...


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
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From taboege at ...626...  Fri Sep 12 10:52:00 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:52:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
In-Reply-To: <54129701.9030500@...3340...>
References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...> <54121BED.3060008@...3340...>
	<20140911223428.GM1564@...2774...> <54129701.9030500@...3340...>
Message-ID: <20140912085200.GA976@...2774...>

On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> > This piece of code there I recognise. It's from the PictureDatabase example
> > delivered with Gambas. So you suggest keeping table creation somewhere else?
> 
> Yes, the function establishes one time the connection to db and this
> functionality is normally used ever and ever in a database frontend
> program. Why should it contain the functionality to create tables?
> 
> > Rumour has it that you want to contribute to Gambas, so changing the
> > PictureDatabase example to be less "bad" would be a good start!
> 
> Grmbl.
> 

If you have time, of course! Or do what you want. It was just a quick idea.

> > Have you tested that? Do you have a patch for the project?
> 
> No. I don't even know how to create a patch for Gambas.
> 

Not for Gambas. For my Gambas project only. This is pretty easy *slap on
my back*. You have a source archive of the old project, right? Then you
uncompress it and change the project. In the IDE menu: Project -> Patch
-> Create, a wizard will guide you through the creation of a patch for a
Gambas project. The result is what you changed in the currently opened
project from the source archive you select in the wizard.

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From taboege at ...626...  Fri Sep 12 13:54:57 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:54:57 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
In-Reply-To: <54124256.5080901@...1...>
References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...>
	<541225F1.1090808@...1...>
	<54124256.5080901@...1...>
Message-ID: <20140912115457.GB976@...2774...>

On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 12/09/2014 00:45, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > Le 11/09/2014 19:57, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> attached is a project which shows odd behaviour. At first glance, the
> >> source
> >> code seems OK to me, so it might be a bug.
> >>
> >> It needs:
> >>   - MySQL running, a user named "test" without password but with the
> >> ability
> >>     to create a database.table "Kontakte.kontakte".
> >>
> >> To reproduce:
> >>   - (If you start the application without the above-mentioned table,
> >> it will
> >>      automatically be created and filled with sample data.)
> >>   - Select a record,
> >>   - Go to the DataControl for the "Vorname" field and delete its
> >> contents,
> >>   - Click anywhere into the DataBrowser,
> >>   - Application hangs.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Tobi
> >>
> >
> > I confirm that there is an infinite recursion somewhere.
> >
> > Now I'm trying to find it...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> 
> It should be fixed in revision #6467.
> 

Yep.

> But you made a mistake by wanting an editable DataView on a read-only 
> DataSource. It couldn't work. I fixed that by making DataView and 
> DataControl read-only if their DataSource is read-only too.
> 

That was the second thing on my list. Thanks! :-)

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From chrisml at ...3340...  Fri Sep 12 20:21:37 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:21:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
In-Reply-To: <20140912085200.GA976@...2774...> (sfid-)
References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...>
	<54121BED.3060008@...3340...>	<20140911223428.GM1564@...2774...>
	<54129701.9030500@...3340...> <20140912085200.GA976@...2774...>
	(sfid-)
Message-ID: <541339B1.4070206@...3340...>

Hi,

Am 12.09.2014 um 10:52 schrieb Tobias Boege:
>> Grmbl.
> 
> If you have time, of course! Or do what you want. It was just a quick idea.

:-)

Had a nice afternoon updating some machines / waiting for the next
question / programming your thing.

>>> Have you tested that? Do you have a patch for the project?
>>
>> No. I don't even know how to create a patch for Gambas.
> 
> Not for Gambas. For my Gambas project only. This is pretty easy *slap on
> my back*. You have a source archive of the old project, right? Then you
> uncompress it and change the project. In the IDE menu: Project -> Patch
> -> Create, a wizard will guide you through the creation of a patch for a
> Gambas project. The result is what you changed in the currently opened
> project from the source archive you select in the wizard.

Ok, the patch is attached. It works on my Mysql-server (but also there
are some hangs, maybe that was, what Benoit fixed). I did a module which
contains the connection to db together with the credentials. One could
fetch them from Settings there.

If you have a look at the connection, you will see, it is not closed als
long as the app lives.

It is persistant and u can reuse it in different places of your app.

I personally always work with results, that are defined in the
functions, and fill the controls with the data of the results which are
queried via this one connection.

This one persistant connection (per DB) ensures, that you will not do
something ugly where two parts of your application fiddle with the same
data via different connections. This is especially important, when your
app grows ...

I did and do not like the code, that creates the database, it injects
unneccessary complexity.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
[x] nail here for new monitor

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From epost at ...3323...  Fri Sep 12 23:19:33 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:19:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TrayIcon error
In-Reply-To: <12-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <11-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<12-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <54136365.4030909@...3323...>

Hello Beno?t!

If I drop a TrayIcon on my FMain and set Visible = True, there's an 
error saying: "Unable to find system tray".


[System]
Gambas=3.5.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.15.10-1-MANJARO
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Manjaro Linux
Desktop=KDE4
Theme=QtCurve
Language=nb_NO.UTF-8
Memory=9902M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11200.16
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.6
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.401.0
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1200.2
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.24
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4



From willy at ...2734...  Sat Sep 13 00:51:09 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 00:51:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] CTRL+A (select all) bug
Message-ID: <1410562269.7253.9.camel@...3024...>

Hi,

Select all, using CTRL+A in IDE results in the last line NOT being
selected. Selection ends at the beginning of the last line.

How to reproduce:
Make sure that in the code editor (or on a text file contained in the
project data folder) the last line is NOT an empty line.
Do CTRL+A and see that selection ends at the beginning of the last line
instead of at the end. So all but last line is selected.

See attached screenshot

[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.2.0-68-generic
Architecture=x86
Distribution=Linux Mint 13 Maya
Desktop=MATE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=2446M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.0.0.0
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org



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From shanep1967 at ...169...  Sat Sep 13 02:53:19 2014
From: shanep1967 at ...169... (Shane)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:53:19 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Textbox bug
Message-ID: <5413957F.1020909@...169...>

All of a sudden i can't type text in textboxs anymore i can delete but 
thats it?

shane.


[System]
Gambas=3.5.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Linux Mint 16 Petra
Desktop=GNOME
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_AU.UTF-8
Memory=3807M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11200.16
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.4
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.200.0
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.803.4
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.20
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.28.0.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.43.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.4
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
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From taboege at ...626...  Sat Sep 13 05:36:21 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 05:36:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Graph classes
Message-ID: <20140913033621.GF976@...2774...>

Hi list,

with #6468, it is finally possible to use Graphs from gb.data. You have a
base "Graph" class from which all implementations inherit. It also acts
like a driver/dispatcher for implementation functions. (Little) more on
that below.

GraphMatrix is a concrete graph implementation in gb.data based on an
adjacency matrix (a full n*n one at the moment -- I may go for sparse
matrices later). More implementations may follow as I have time.

You can also create your own graph classes in Gambas. It's more
complicated than you might want it to be but you don't invent new graph
classes on a daily basis, right? That's mainly because I made excessive
use of virtual classes to have a nice interface without additional memory
usage.

At least the process of creating your own graph class is convoluted enough
that I cannot explain it now, so either self-study or wait for the tutorial/
GambasMag article (depends on how fast December approaches) :-)

Attached are three projects:

  - ConnectivityMatrix: shows how to use GraphMatrix. It (sort of) computes
    the connected components of a graph, but by taking the sum over powers
    of the adjacency matrix (using gb.gsl).

  - custom-graph: a very quickly written project which implements a
    "DirectoryGraph", i.e. a graph which represents a directory hierarchy
    where "being contained in a directory" and (symbolic) links are edges.

    The class is written in Gambas and rather minimal. The project creates
    a (graphviz) dot file and its png of the graph of /usr/lib/gambas3/*so*.

  - GraphFloodFill: is a more sophisticated project. At its heart it
    interprets an Image object as a graph by implicitly taking the pixels
    as vertices and defining edges between pixels of the same colour (or
    from any colour to white or transparent).

    The BreadthFirstSearch class implements a BFS for a general Graph object.
    ImageGraph contains just enough functionality to allow a BFS on it. This
    together allows to do a flood fill on the backing Image object.

    There is also a neat little colour chooser because the traditional one
    from gb.form was too bulky for the form.

Questions?

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
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From pata.karlsson at ...626...  Sat Sep 13 13:06:07 2014
From: pata.karlsson at ...626... (Patrik Karlsson)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:06:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] alphatrans
Message-ID: <CANiFHSGqsN2AiW8DfM=VFmR3YK84nr+9ZZQJ6d57rEKXzWcQPQ@...627...>

Hi,

I made a gui for iconv that makes it easy to convert file encoding.
Feel free to try it out and come with any suggestions that you might have.

Screenshot and source code:
http://trixon.se/linux/alphatrans/

/Patrik


From ian.roper at ...1974...  Sat Sep 13 13:24:57 2014
From: ian.roper at ...1974... (Ian)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:24:57 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Textbox bug
In-Reply-To: <5413957F.1020909@...169...>
References: <5413957F.1020909@...169...>
Message-ID: <54142989.5070907@...1974...>

I have the same problem.
If I select gb.GTK, gb.GTK3 or the standard gb.GUI, when I run the 
application I cannot enter text into any of the input controls such as 
text, textarea, spinbox?ect fields.
Backspace and Tab DO work !,  I can also 'paste' text into a control.
However drawing images; simple lines, circles ect on a drawing area 
component will work correctly.

If I switch to gb.QT4 with or without the gb.QT4.ext then text entry 
works but the drawing of images stops.
Stepping through the code, it runs without error but produces no display 
on any drawing area control.

Note # This is on a fresh rebuild of Linux Mint 17 "Qiana" with the 
latest overnight updates from the gambas-team/gambas-daily PPA.

The only thing I can add is that I get this warning in the console:
(rdadmin:5856): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion 
'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
with the gb.GUI or gb.GTK component selected.
No error reported in the console with gb.GTK3 but the problem still 
exists as stated.

Another has also reported this on the gambas forum at 
whiteislandsofware.com with Ubuntu 14.04

Cheers,
Ian Roper.

On 13/09/14 08:53, Shane wrote:
> All of a sudden i can't type text in textboxs anymore i can delete but 
> thats it?
>
> shane.
>
>
> [System]
> Gambas=3.5.90
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=Linux Mint 16 Petra
> Desktop=GNOME
> Theme=QGtk
> Language=en_AU.UTF-8
> Memory=3807M
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11200.16
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.4
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.200.0
> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.803.4
> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.20
> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.28.0.0
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.43.0.0
> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.4
> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
>
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 13 14:06:29 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:06:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Textbox bug
In-Reply-To: <54142989.5070907@...1974...>
References: <5413957F.1020909@...169...> <54142989.5070907@...1974...>
Message-ID: <54143345.5020501@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 13:24, Ian a ?crit :
> I have the same problem.
> If I select gb.GTK, gb.GTK3 or the standard gb.GUI, when I run the
> application I cannot enter text into any of the input controls such as
> text, textarea, spinbox?ect fields.
> Backspace and Tab DO work !,  I can also 'paste' text into a control.
> However drawing images; simple lines, circles ect on a drawing area
> component will work correctly.
>
> If I switch to gb.QT4 with or without the gb.QT4.ext then text entry
> works but the drawing of images stops.
> Stepping through the code, it runs without error but produces no display
> on any drawing area control.
>
> Note # This is on a fresh rebuild of Linux Mint 17 "Qiana" with the
> latest overnight updates from the gambas-team/gambas-daily PPA.
>
> The only thing I can add is that I get this warning in the console:
> (rdadmin:5856): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion
> 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
> with the gb.GUI or gb.GTK component selected.
> No error reported in the console with gb.GTK3 but the problem still
> exists as stated.
>
> Another has also reported this on the gambas forum at
> whiteislandsofware.com with Ubuntu 14.04
>
> Cheers,
> Ian Roper.
>

I confirm the same problem. But it worked a few days ago without me 
changing anything, so I think there was a recent update on input methods 
that broke gb.gtk keyboard events management.

I'm currently investigating...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 13 14:42:47 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:42:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Textbox bug
In-Reply-To: <54143345.5020501@...1...>
References: <5413957F.1020909@...169...> <54142989.5070907@...1974...>
	<54143345.5020501@...1...>
Message-ID: <54143BC7.7050607@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 14:06, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> Le 13/09/2014 13:24, Ian a ?crit :
>> I have the same problem.
>> If I select gb.GTK, gb.GTK3 or the standard gb.GUI, when I run the
>> application I cannot enter text into any of the input controls such as
>> text, textarea, spinbox?ect fields.
>> Backspace and Tab DO work !,  I can also 'paste' text into a control.
>> However drawing images; simple lines, circles ect on a drawing area
>> component will work correctly.
>>
>> If I switch to gb.QT4 with or without the gb.QT4.ext then text entry
>> works but the drawing of images stops.
>> Stepping through the code, it runs without error but produces no display
>> on any drawing area control.
>>
>> Note # This is on a fresh rebuild of Linux Mint 17 "Qiana" with the
>> latest overnight updates from the gambas-team/gambas-daily PPA.
>>
>> The only thing I can add is that I get this warning in the console:
>> (rdadmin:5856): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion
>> 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
>> with the gb.GUI or gb.GTK component selected.
>> No error reported in the console with gb.GTK3 but the problem still
>> exists as stated.
>>
>> Another has also reported this on the gambas forum at
>> whiteislandsofware.com with Ubuntu 14.04
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ian Roper.
>>
>
> I confirm the same problem. But it worked a few days ago without me
> changing anything, so I think there was a recent update on input methods
> that broke gb.gtk keyboard events management.
>
> I'm currently investigating...
>

Things should be better in revision #6469.

Please note that if you manually change the input method of the text box 
from its popup menu, things stop working very well. Maybe because there 
is now way to be aware of that change outside of the textbox.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 13 17:47:56 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:47:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] CTRL+A (select all) bug
In-Reply-To: <1410562269.7253.9.camel@...3024...>
References: <1410562269.7253.9.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <5414672C.8070805@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 00:51, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> Select all, using CTRL+A in IDE results in the last line NOT being
> selected. Selection ends at the beginning of the last line.
>
> How to reproduce:
> Make sure that in the code editor (or on a text file contained in the
> project data folder) the last line is NOT an empty line.
> Do CTRL+A and see that selection ends at the beginning of the last line
> instead of at the end. So all but last line is selected.
>

Fixed in revision #6470.

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From gambas at ...2524...  Sat Sep 13 18:15:05 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:15:05 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 554 in gambas: Cannot seem to catch an
 error from a Exec[] process anymore
In-Reply-To: <0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Comment #1 on issue 554 by r... at ...1740...: Cannot seem to catch an  
error from a Exec[] process anymore
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=554

Any update on this bugreport, is it valid reproduce-able?

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From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 13 18:42:52 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:42:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TrayIcon error
In-Reply-To: <54136365.4030909@...3323...>
References: <11-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<12-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<54136365.4030909@...3323...>
Message-ID: <5414740C.3080709@...3323...>

Den 12. sep. 2014 23:19, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
> Hello Beno?t!
>
> If I drop a TrayIcon on my FMain and set Visible = True, there's an
> error saying: "Unable to find system tray".
>
>
> [System]
> Gambas=3.5.90
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=3.15.10-1-MANJARO
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=Manjaro Linux
> Desktop=KDE4
> Theme=QtCurve
> Language=nb_NO.UTF-8
> Memory=9902M
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11200.16
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.6
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.401.0
> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1200.2
> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.24
> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
I also tried the SystemTray example, and all I get is a window with a 
yellow box... nothing happens when I resize it. If I haven't done 
anything wrong, it seems Gambas cannot connect to my system tray?



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 13 18:52:44 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:52:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TrayIcon error
In-Reply-To: <5414740C.3080709@...3323...>
References: <11-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<12-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54136365.4030909@...3323...>
	<5414740C.3080709@...3323...>
Message-ID: <5414765C.8010401@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 18:42, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> Den 12. sep. 2014 23:19, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
>> Hello Beno?t!
>>
>> If I drop a TrayIcon on my FMain and set Visible = True, there's an
>> error saying: "Unable to find system tray".
>>
>>
>> [System]
>> Gambas=3.5.90
>> OperatingSystem=Linux
>> Kernel=3.15.10-1-MANJARO
>> Architecture=x86_64
>> Distribution=Manjaro Linux
>> Desktop=KDE4
>> Theme=QtCurve
>> Language=nb_NO.UTF-8
>> Memory=9902M
>> [Libraries]
>> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11200.16
>> Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
>> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.6
>> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
>> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.401.0
>> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1200.2
>> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.24
>> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
>> Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
>> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
>> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
> I also tried the SystemTray example, and all I get is a window with a
> yellow box... nothing happens when I resize it. If I haven't done
> anything wrong, it seems Gambas cannot connect to my system tray?
>

Please send your project. "Unable to find system tray" means that Qt was 
unable to find it. But it never happened here with KDE4.

Regards,

-- 
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From gambas at ...2524...  Sat Sep 13 18:55:15 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:55:15 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 554 in gambas: Cannot seem to catch an
 error from a Exec[] process anymore
In-Reply-To: <1-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <1-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: Accepted
	Labels: -Version Version-3.5.0

Comment #2 on issue 554 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Cannot seem to catch an  
error from a Exec[] process anymore
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=554

It's just that technically it is not really a bug. Because on Unix, the  
child process starts before searching for the program to run. So I only can  
catch the error later.

I think I should search for the program to run before creating the child  
process, so that we can get the error immediately. But it introduces a  
performance penalty when running each process...

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From gambas at ...2524...  Sat Sep 13 18:56:15 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:56:15 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 558 in gambas: Gambas is missing a Radio
	Menu Item
In-Reply-To: <0-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <0-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <1-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Labels: -Version Version-TRUNK

Comment #1 on issue 558 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Gambas is missing a Radio  
Menu Item
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=558

I'm currently searching if it possible and reliable to introduce radio menu  
items both in gb.gtk and gb.qt4. Not so simple...

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From gambas at ...2524...  Sat Sep 13 18:57:15 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:57:15 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 558 in gambas: Gambas is missing a Radio
	Menu Item
In-Reply-To: <1-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <1-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <2-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>


Comment #2 on issue 558 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Gambas is missing a Radio  
Menu Item
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=558

I'm currently searching if it is possible and reliable to introduce radio  
menu items both in gb.gtk and gb.qt4. Not so simple...

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From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 13 18:58:13 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:58:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TrayIcon error
In-Reply-To: <5414765C.8010401@...1...>
References: <11-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<12-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54136365.4030909@...3323...>	<5414740C.3080709@...3323...>
	<5414765C.8010401@...1...>
Message-ID: <541477A5.2070208@...3323...>


Den 13. sep. 2014 18:52, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 13/09/2014 18:42, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>> Den 12. sep. 2014 23:19, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
>>> Hello Beno?t!
>>>
>>> If I drop a TrayIcon on my FMain and set Visible = True, there's an
>>> error saying: "Unable to find system tray".
>>>
>>>
>>> [System]
>>> Gambas=3.5.90
>>> OperatingSystem=Linux
>>> Kernel=3.15.10-1-MANJARO
>>> Architecture=x86_64
>>> Distribution=Manjaro Linux
>>> Desktop=KDE4
>>> Theme=QtCurve
>>> Language=nb_NO.UTF-8
>>> Memory=9902M
>>> [Libraries]
>>> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11200.16
>>> Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
>>> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.6
>>> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
>>> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.401.0
>>> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1200.2
>>> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.24
>>> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
>>> Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
>>> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
>>> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
>> I also tried the SystemTray example, and all I get is a window with a
>> yellow box... nothing happens when I resize it. If I haven't done
>> anything wrong, it seems Gambas cannot connect to my system tray?
>>
> Please send your project. "Unable to find system tray" means that Qt was
> unable to find it. But it never happened here with KDE4.
>
> Regards,
>
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From gambas at ...2524...  Sat Sep 13 19:03:57 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:03:57 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 554 in gambas: Cannot seem to catch an
 error from a Exec[] process anymore
In-Reply-To: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>


Comment #3 on issue 554 by r... at ...1740...: Cannot seem to catch an  
error from a Exec[] process anymore
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=554

I understand, but I can't remember that this not catching the error problem  
occurred with older version, or at least didn't let the error management  
going nuts.

If you have this code in a bigger project like DomotiGa, it triggers all  
kinds of error and false positives in other parts of the project, which  
were fine, as if the error management is filled with garbage or doesn't  
know what to do...

Now I check if the command exists before running it (with 'which') that's  
also a very big penalty.


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From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 13 19:51:19 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:51:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bubbles are invisible
In-Reply-To: <3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <54148417.6040806@...3323...>

In Manjaro bubbles are invisible:




[System]
Gambas=3.5.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.15.10-1-MANJARO
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Manjaro Linux
Desktop=KDE4
Theme=QtCurve
Language=nb_NO.UTF-8
Memory=9902M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11200.16
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.6
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.401.0
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1200.2
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.24
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
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From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 13 19:53:14 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:53:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bubbles are invisible
In-Reply-To: <54148417.6040806@...3323...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<54148417.6040806@...3323...>
Message-ID: <5414848A.7080508@...3323...>


Den 13. sep. 2014 19:51, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
> In Manjaro bubbles are invisible:
>
>
>
>
> [System]
> Gambas=3.5.90
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=3.15.10-1-MANJARO
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=Manjaro Linux
> Desktop=KDE4
> Theme=QtCurve
> Language=nb_NO.UTF-8
> Memory=9902M
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11200.16
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.6
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.401.0
> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1200.2
> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.24
> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4 

Sorry, I meant "Ballons" :)




From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 13 20:27:07 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:27:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Off-line help is not working
In-Reply-To: <5414848A.7080508@...3323...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54148417.6040806@...3323...>
	<5414848A.7080508@...3323...>
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Off-line help is not working. Tested in both Manjaro and Ubuntu 14.04 - 
see attached screenshot.


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From iss_boss at ...770...  Sat Sep 13 21:00:17 2014
From: iss_boss at ...770... (ISS Boss)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:00:17 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Bulk]  Off-line help is not working
In-Reply-To: <54148C7B.2020809@...3323...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54148417.6040806@...3323...>	<5414848A.7080508@...3323...>
	<54148C7B.2020809@...3323...>
Message-ID: <54149441.3010600@...770...>


   I get this all the time and asked about it months ago.  Nothing happened. I
   can get help, but I have to go out of the IDE to get it.  Cumbersome, at
   best.
   Bill

   J??rn Erik M??rne wrote on 09/13/2014 14:27:

     Off-line help is not working. Tested in both Manjaro and Ubuntu 14.04 -
     see attached screenshot.

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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 13 21:03:25 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:03:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Fwd: Re: Off-line help is not working
In-Reply-To: <541492DE.30506@...1...>
References: <541492DE.30506@...1...>
Message-ID: <541494FD.6030609@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 20:27, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> Off-line help is not working. Tested in both Manjaro and Ubuntu 14.04 -
> see attached screenshot.
>
>

Have you downloaded it?

-- 
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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 13 21:03:52 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:03:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Off-line help is not working
In-Reply-To: <541494CF.9070102@...1...>
References: <541494CF.9070102@...1...>
Message-ID: <54149518.6060901@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 20:59, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>
> Den 13. sep. 2014 20:54, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>> Le 13/09/2014 20:54, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>>> Le 13/09/2014 20:27, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>>> Off-line help is not working. Tested in both Manjaro and Ubuntu 14.04 -
>>>> see attached screenshot.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have you downloaded it?
>>>
>>
>> And another point: please create a new thread for a different subject.
>> Don't answer a non-related thread!
>>
>
> I don't understand... this email has the topic "Re: Off-line help is not
> working" here with me. What does it say at your email client?
>
> Every other mail I sent today had a specific topic for each issue, one
> was named "Bubbles are invisible" and the other "TrayIcon error"
> .
>

According to Thunderbird, you answered a mail with a different subject,
you didn't create a new message. It doesn't matter what you effectively
put in your mail's subject.

Regards,

-- 
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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 13 21:33:43 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:33:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Off-line help is not working
In-Reply-To: <54149A8B.7060701@...3323...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54148417.6040806@...3323...>
	<5414848A.7080508@...3323...> <54148C7B.2020809@...3323...>
	<541492DE.30506@...1...>
	<54149A8B.7060701@...3323...>
Message-ID: <54149C17.9050605@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 21:27, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>
> Den 13. sep. 2014 20:54, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>> Le 13/09/2014 20:27, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>> Off-line help is not working. Tested in both Manjaro and Ubuntu 14.04 -
>>> see attached screenshot.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Have you downloaded it?
>>
>
> I now see (and recall) there is a "Download documentation" button that
> is greyed out. On my Manjaro PC it says "Documentation is up to date",
> and in Ubuntu it says "Documentation is not available"...
>

I forgot: The 'wget' program is used for downloading the documentation. 
Is it installed on your system?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 13 21:41:49 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:41:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Off-line help is not working
In-Reply-To: <54149C17.9050605@...1...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54148417.6040806@...3323...>
	<5414848A.7080508@...3323...> <54148C7B.2020809@...3323...>
	<541492DE.30506@...1...>
	<54149A8B.7060701@...3323...>
	<54149C17.9050605@...1...>
Message-ID: <54149DFD.4070607@...3323...>


Den 13. sep. 2014 21:33, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 13/09/2014 21:27, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>
>> Den 13. sep. 2014 20:54, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>>> Le 13/09/2014 20:27, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>>> Off-line help is not working. Tested in both Manjaro and Ubuntu 
>>>> 14.04 -
>>>> see attached screenshot.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have you downloaded it?
>>>
>>
>> I now see (and recall) there is a "Download documentation" button that
>> is greyed out. On my Manjaro PC it says "Documentation is up to date",
>> and in Ubuntu it says "Documentation is not available"...
>>
>
> I forgot: The 'wget' program is used for downloading the 
> documentation. Is it installed on your system?
>

yes, it is



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 13 22:34:28 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:34:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Gambas-devel] Gambas IDE trunk slow start
In-Reply-To: <541492C1.7000309@...1...>
References: <CAM+S5noCvn3cdJaBLxSVPW-LrgwL-QS6h4791x5a+q1LDBjqDw@...627...>	<54147605.5040607@...1...>
	<CAM+S5nq_iLKD4LB8uJySnmTewu-UzUGiZ2NOWR7jEZOTuAFoxg@...627...>
	<541492C1.7000309@...1...>
Message-ID: <5414AA54.3060104@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 20:53, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> Le 13/09/2014 19:21, Ron a ?crit :
>> Did more testing, it's only slow when a lot of files are open on
>> startup (forms, classes)...
>> Did a ctrl-alt-w and it's fast.
>>
>> But the stable Gambas doesn't have this issue.
>>
>> Every 60 files (some big ones) gives a 2 Second delay I think
>>
>> I may be nitpicking... but we (I) don't want a slower IDE unless there
>> is a good reason for it :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ron.
>>
>
> I agree. Can you send your project? I don't notice this behaviour.
>

I tested with the IDE source code. I opened more than 100 files, and it 
takes about 2 seconds to open the IDE with all that files (I have a core 
i5 @ 3,4 Ghz)

By the way, why opening more so many files? What for?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...2524...  Sat Sep 13 22:40:09 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:40:09 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 554 in gambas: Cannot seem to catch an
 error from a Exec[] process anymore
In-Reply-To: <3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <4-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: Fixed

Comment #4 on issue 554 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Cannot seem to catch an  
error from a Exec[] process anymore
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=554

Fixed in revision #6471: the executable is searched in the PATH environment  
variable before forking, so that an error is raised immediately if it  
cannot be found. The result of the search is kept so that the child process  
does not have to do the search again.

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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 13 22:41:08 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:41:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Gambas-devel] Gambas IDE trunk slow start
In-Reply-To: <5414AA54.3060104@...1...>
References: <CAM+S5noCvn3cdJaBLxSVPW-LrgwL-QS6h4791x5a+q1LDBjqDw@...627...>	<54147605.5040607@...1...>	<CAM+S5nq_iLKD4LB8uJySnmTewu-UzUGiZ2NOWR7jEZOTuAFoxg@...627...>	<541492C1.7000309@...1...>
	<5414AA54.3060104@...1...>
Message-ID: <5414ABE4.1020607@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 22:34, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>
> By the way, why opening more so many files? What for?
>

Too much more.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 13 22:42:34 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:42:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bubbles are invisible
In-Reply-To: <54148417.6040806@...3323...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<54148417.6040806@...3323...>
Message-ID: <5414AC3A.5000008@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 19:51, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> In Manjaro bubbles are invisible:
>

I cannot reproduce that. Can you try to change your colour theme and/or 
your widget theme to see if it changes anything?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ron at ...1740...  Sat Sep 13 22:54:19 2014
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:54:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [Gambas-devel] Gambas IDE trunk slow start
In-Reply-To: <5414AA54.3060104@...1...>
References: <CAM+S5noCvn3cdJaBLxSVPW-LrgwL-QS6h4791x5a+q1LDBjqDw@...627...>
	<54147605.5040607@...1...>
	<CAM+S5nq_iLKD4LB8uJySnmTewu-UzUGiZ2NOWR7jEZOTuAFoxg@...627...>
	<541492C1.7000309@...1...>
	<5414AA54.3060104@...1...>
Message-ID: <CAM+S5npfxfsFNHe1x9wAPukxuT+GgCmXbdTAOvb=A8HOa8U50w@...627...>

I work on a big project with more than 100000 lines of code.. And simply
never close a code window.

You can find it here github.com/DomotiGa the project is called DomotiGa3

I cannot reproduce it anymore... I also get max 2sec delay now...
Maybe there was something wrong with one or more files or .settings
entries.. After the 'close all windows action' it got emptied...
Ignore it for now...

Regards
Ron
Op 13 sep. 2014 22:35 schreef "Beno?t Minisini" <
gambas at ...1...>:

> Le 13/09/2014 20:53, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > Le 13/09/2014 19:21, Ron a ?crit :
> >> Did more testing, it's only slow when a lot of files are open on
> >> startup (forms, classes)...
> >> Did a ctrl-alt-w and it's fast.
> >>
> >> But the stable Gambas doesn't have this issue.
> >>
> >> Every 60 files (some big ones) gives a 2 Second delay I think
> >>
> >> I may be nitpicking... but we (I) don't want a slower IDE unless there
> >> is a good reason for it :-)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ron.
> >>
> >
> > I agree. Can you send your project? I don't notice this behaviour.
> >
>
> I tested with the IDE source code. I opened more than 100 files, and it
> takes about 2 seconds to open the IDE with all that files (I have a core
> i5 @ 3,4 Ghz)
>
> By the way, why opening more so many files? What for?
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Sat Sep 13 23:04:25 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:04:25 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Missing Keyword in Wiki
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL5=c7wOhiceqjbCtBi31X=HJfZeA3ywVseP0_FOFrb=uw@...627...>

This is just an FYI for the Wiki maintainers.

The "Each" keyword is missing from the Language index page. It can be found
in the Loop Constructs page but should be added to the Language Index page
as well. That will give users a quick way to find it.

-- 
If you ask me if it can be done. The answer is YES, it can always be done.
The correct questions however are... What will it cost, and how long will
it take?


From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 13 23:07:30 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:07:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bubbles are invisible
In-Reply-To: <5414AC3A.5000008@...1...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<54148417.6040806@...3323...>
	<5414AC3A.5000008@...1...>
Message-ID: <5414B212.1090005@...3323...>


Den 13. sep. 2014 22:42, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 13/09/2014 19:51, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>> In Manjaro bubbles are invisible:
>>
>
> I cannot reproduce that. Can you try to change your colour theme 
> and/or your widget theme to see if it changes anything?
>

Aha, I found it. I tried desktop theme and and window style, but the 
issue is actually with the colour theme (I was using Breeze, the KDE5 
colour theme, but on KDE4).



From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 13 23:13:20 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:13:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Off-line help is not working
In-Reply-To: <54149DFD.4070607@...3323...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54148417.6040806@...3323...>	<5414848A.7080508@...3323...>
	<54148C7B.2020809@...3323...>	<541492DE.30506@...1...>	<54149A8B.7060701@...3323...>	<54149C17.9050605@...1...>
	<54149DFD.4070607@...3323...>
Message-ID: <5414B370.3030204@...3323...>


Den 13. sep. 2014 21:41, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
> Den 13. sep. 2014 21:33, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>> Le 13/09/2014 21:27, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>> Den 13. sep. 2014 20:54, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>>>> Le 13/09/2014 20:27, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>>>> Off-line help is not working. Tested in both Manjaro and Ubuntu
>>>>> 14.04 -
>>>>> see attached screenshot.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Have you downloaded it?
>>>>
>>> I now see (and recall) there is a "Download documentation" button that
>>> is greyed out. On my Manjaro PC it says "Documentation is up to date",
>>> and in Ubuntu it says "Documentation is not available"...
>>>
>> I forgot: The 'wget' program is used for downloading the
>> documentation. Is it installed on your system?
>>
> yes, it is

Now I got to download the documentation on Ubuntu as well (I suspect a 
WiFi hickup could be the issue why it wasn't available earlier on), but 
the problem with "This page does not exist" remains...



From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 13 23:17:32 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:17:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bubbles are invisible
In-Reply-To: <5414B212.1090005@...3323...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54148417.6040806@...3323...>	<5414AC3A.5000008@...1...>
	<5414B212.1090005@...3323...>
Message-ID: <5414B46C.8010005@...3323...>


Den 13. sep. 2014 23:07, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
> Den 13. sep. 2014 22:42, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>> Le 13/09/2014 19:51, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>> In Manjaro bubbles are invisible:
>>>
>> I cannot reproduce that. Can you try to change your colour theme
>> and/or your widget theme to see if it changes anything?
>>
> Aha, I found it. I tried desktop theme and and window style, but the
> issue is actually with the colour theme (I was using Breeze, the KDE5
> colour theme, but on KDE4).
>

It appears that when KDE's tooltip colour is set to: #FCFCFC
Bubbles turn invisible... I changed it to #FFFFFF and that works well, 
even #FEFEFE... strange?



From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 13 23:28:44 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?UTF-8?B?SsO4cm4gRXJpayBNw7hybmU=?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:28:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
Message-ID: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>

If I may add one more issue - hope I am not flooding here now, but this 
one has been around since day one. On Manjaro, making installation 
packages fail...

========================================

Saving CHANGELOG file.

========================================

Creating package for Archlinux.

========================================

Making build directory.
cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
makepkg -g >> PKGBUILD
==> Henter kilder...
==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og 
den er heller ikke en URL.
Creating package...

cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
makepkg --allsource
==> Lager pakke: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200 2014)
==> Henter kilder...
==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og 
den er heller ikke en URL.
cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
makepkg -d
==> Lager pakke: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200 2014)
==> ADVARSEL: Hopper over kontroll av avhengigheter.
==> Henter kilder...
==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og 
den er heller ikke en URL.
cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
cp syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.* 
/home/myUser/Programmering/GambasBuilds/Sycthing\ GUI/archlinux
cp: klarte ikke ? hente informasjon om ?syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.*?: 
Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog
The packages have been successfully created.




From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Sat Sep 13 23:40:00 2014
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:40:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] tried to find the IDE-svn crash, found that
Message-ID: <1410644400.23712.8.camel@...40...>

Salut Beno?t,

when I go in menu Project/version control, the IDE says 'good by'
without any information.

using gdb:

Reading symbols from /usr/bin/gbx3...done.
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx3 
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".
ERROR: #2: Cannot load class 'AngleBox': Unable to load class file
[Inferior 1 (process 23638) exited with code 01]
(gdb) bt
No stack.

using valgrind: see attached valgrind.out

rev.6471.tar.bz2 are the makeing rev.6471 logs

[System]
Gambas=3.5.90    					(rev 6471)
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.2.0-68-generic
Architecture=x86
Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
Desktop=GNOME
Theme=QPlastique
Language=de_DE.UTF-8
Memory=3025M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.400.2
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie
-------------- next part --------------
==23661== Memcheck, a memory error detector
==23661== Copyright (C) 2002-2011, and GNU GPL'd, by Julian Seward et al.
==23661== Using Valgrind-3.7.0 and LibVEX; rerun with -h for copyright info
==23661== Command: gbx3
==23661== 
ERROR: #2: Cannot load class 'AngleBox': Unable to load class file
==23661== 
==23661== HEAP SUMMARY:
==23661==     in use at exit: 129,138 bytes in 1,146 blocks
==23661==   total heap usage: 2,556 allocs, 1,410 frees, 1,211,913 bytes allocated
==23661== 
==23661== LEAK SUMMARY:
==23661==    definitely lost: 288 bytes in 1 blocks
==23661==    indirectly lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==23661==      possibly lost: 80 bytes in 1 blocks
==23661==    still reachable: 128,770 bytes in 1,144 blocks
==23661==         suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks
==23661== Rerun with --leak-check=full to see details of leaked memory
==23661== 
==23661== For counts of detected and suppressed errors, rerun with: -v
==23661== ERROR SUMMARY: 0 errors from 0 contexts (suppressed: 0 from 0)
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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 13 23:41:15 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:41:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>
Message-ID: <5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 23:28, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> If I may add one more issue - hope I am not flooding here now, but this
> one has been around since day one. On Manjaro, making installation
> packages fail...
>
> ========================================
>
> Saving CHANGELOG file.
>
> ========================================
>
> Creating package for Archlinux.
>
> ========================================
>
> Making build directory.
> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
> makepkg -g >> PKGBUILD
> ==> Henter kilder...
> ==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og
> den er heller ikke en URL.
> Creating package...
>
> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
> makepkg --allsource
> ==> Lager pakke: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200 2014)
> ==> Henter kilder...
> ==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og
> den er heller ikke en URL.
> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
> makepkg -d
> ==> Lager pakke: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200 2014)
> ==> ADVARSEL: Hopper over kontroll av avhengigheter.
> ==> Henter kilder...
> ==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og
> den er heller ikke en URL.
> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
> cp syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.*
> /home/myUser/Programmering/GambasBuilds/Sycthing\ GUI/archlinux
> cp: klarte ikke ? hente informasjon om ?syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.*?:
> Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog
> The packages have been successfully created.
>
>

Can you translate the messages in english for me? I see that many things 
failed, but I have no idea what.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 13 23:47:42 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?UTF-8?B?SsO4cm4gRXJpayBNw7hybmU=?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:47:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>
	<5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>
Message-ID: <5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>


Den 13. sep. 2014 23:41, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 13/09/2014 23:28, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>> If I may add one more issue - hope I am not flooding here now, but this
>> one has been around since day one. On Manjaro, making installation
>> packages fail...
>>
>> ========================================
>>
>> Saving CHANGELOG file.
>>
>> ========================================
>>
>> Creating package for Archlinux.
>>
>> ========================================
>>
>> Making build directory.
>> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
>> makepkg -g >> PKGBUILD
>> ==> Henter kilder...
>> ==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og
>> den er heller ikke en URL.
>> Creating package...
>>
>> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
>> makepkg --allsource
>> ==> Lager pakke: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200 2014)
>> ==> Henter kilder...
>> ==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og
>> den er heller ikke en URL.
>> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
>> makepkg -d
>> ==> Lager pakke: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200 2014)
>> ==> ADVARSEL: Hopper over kontroll av avhengigheter.
>> ==> Henter kilder...
>> ==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og
>> den er heller ikke en URL.
>> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
>> cp syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.*
>> /home/myUser/Programmering/GambasBuilds/Sycthing\ GUI/archlinux
>> cp: klarte ikke ? hente informasjon om ?syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.*?:
>> Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog
>> The packages have been successfully created.
>>
>>
> Can you translate the messages in english for me? I see that many things
> failed, but I have no idea what.
>

========================================

Saving CHANGELOG file.

========================================

Creating package for Archlinux.

========================================

Making build directory.
cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
makepkg -g >> PKGBUILD
==> Fetching sources
==> ERROR: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 was not found in the build-folder, 
and is not a URL.
Creating package...

cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
makepkg --allsource
==> Adding package: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200 2014)
==> Fetching sources...
==> ERROR: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 was not found in the build-folder, 
and is not a URL.
cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
makepkg -d
==> Creating package: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200 
2014)
==> WARNING: Skipping dependency control.
==> Fetching sources...
==> ERROR: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 was not found in the build-folder, 
and is not a URL.
cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
cp syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.* 
/home/myUser/Programmering/GambasBuilds/Sycthing\ GUI/archlinux
cp: could not retrieve information about ?syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.*?: 
No such file or folder
The packages have been successfully created.


From epost at ...3323...  Sun Sep 14 00:05:38 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 00:05:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bubbles are invisible
In-Reply-To: <5414B46C.8010005@...3323...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<3-6813199134517018827-13687992083076595661-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54148417.6040806@...3323...>	<5414AC3A.5000008@...1...>
	<5414B212.1090005@...3323...> <5414B46C.8010005@...3323...>
Message-ID: <5414BFB2.6010409@...3323...>


Den 13. sep. 2014 23:17, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
>
> Den 13. sep. 2014 23:07, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
>> Den 13. sep. 2014 22:42, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>>> Le 13/09/2014 19:51, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>>> In Manjaro bubbles are invisible:
>>>>
>>> I cannot reproduce that. Can you try to change your colour theme
>>> and/or your widget theme to see if it changes anything?
>>>
>> Aha, I found it. I tried desktop theme and and window style, but the
>> issue is actually with the colour theme (I was using Breeze, the KDE5
>> colour theme, but on KDE4).
>>
>
> It appears that when KDE's tooltip colour is set to: #FCFCFC
> Bubbles turn invisible... I changed it to #FFFFFF and that works well, 
> even #FEFEFE... strange?

Its not quite right in Ubuntu 14.04 either. If you compare the two 
attachments you'll see how the tooltips are coloured and how the balloon 
is coloured - white on light yellow...



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From epost at ...3323...  Sun Sep 14 00:14:27 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 00:14:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TrayIcon error
In-Reply-To: <541477A5.2070208@...3323...>
References: <11-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<12-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54136365.4030909@...3323...>	<5414740C.3080709@...3323...>
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Den 13. sep. 2014 18:58, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
>
> Den 13. sep. 2014 18:52, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>> Le 13/09/2014 18:42, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>> Den 12. sep. 2014 23:19, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
>>>> Hello Beno?t!
>>>>
>>>> If I drop a TrayIcon on my FMain and set Visible = True, there's an
>>>> error saying: "Unable to find system tray".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [System]
>>>> Gambas=3.5.90
>>>> OperatingSystem=Linux
>>>> Kernel=3.15.10-1-MANJARO
>>>> Architecture=x86_64
>>>> Distribution=Manjaro Linux
>>>> Desktop=KDE4
>>>> Theme=QtCurve
>>>> Language=nb_NO.UTF-8
>>>> Memory=9902M
>>>> [Libraries]
>>>> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11200.16
>>>> Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
>>>> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.6
>>>> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
>>>> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.401.0
>>>> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1200.2
>>>> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.24
>>>> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
>>>> Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
>>>> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
>>>> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
>>> I also tried the SystemTray example, and all I get is a window with a
>>> yellow box... nothing happens when I resize it. If I haven't done
>>> anything wrong, it seems Gambas cannot connect to my system tray?
>>>
>> Please send your project. "Unable to find system tray" means that Qt was
>> unable to find it. But it never happened here with KDE4.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
> It's attached
I just tested this in Ubuntu 14.04 and here it runs without error, but 
there's no icon added to the tray, and when I close the window, Gambas 
"believes" it is still runnung, so I need to use stop...



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Sun Sep 14 11:47:06 2014
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:47:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Returned mail: see transcript for details
Message-ID: <1410688026.3436.6.camel@...40...>

Salut Beno?t.

tested crash report the following addresse

gambas-user at ...1... 

should be gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net

Charlie

The original message was received at Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:42:12 +0200
from x2f23831.dyn.telefonica.de [2.242.56.49]

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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 14 13:38:33 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:38:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Returned mail: see transcript for details
In-Reply-To: <1410688026.3436.6.camel@...40...>
References: <1410688026.3436.6.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <54157E39.5030208@...1...>

Le 14/09/2014 11:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> Salut Beno?t.
>
> tested crash report the following addresse
>
> gambas-user at ...1...
>
> should be gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>
> Charlie
>

No, I want the crash report to go to my private e-mail, not the 
mailing-list! Because it may include private data.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From vuott at ...325...  Sun Sep 14 14:06:14 2014
From: vuott at ...325... (Ru Vuott)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:06:14 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Skipped 'trunk/comp/src/gb.report/.info' -- Node
	remains in conflict
Message-ID: <1410696374.39998.YahooMailBasic@...3274...>

Hello,

updating via SVN my Gambas, I obtained this strange notice:

~ $ svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/gambas/code/gambas/trunk
Skipped 'trunk/comp/src/gb.report/.info' -- Node remains in conflict
Checked out revision 6473.



What is this ?

Regards
vuott




From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Sun Sep 14 14:42:50 2014
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 14:42:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Returned mail: see transcript for details
In-Reply-To: <54157E39.5030208@...1...>
References: <1410688026.3436.6.camel@...40...>
	<54157E39.5030208@...1...>
Message-ID: <1410698570.3571.2.camel@...40...>

Am Sonntag, den 14.09.2014, 13:38 +0200 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 14/09/2014 11:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> > Salut Beno?t.
> >
> > tested crash report the following addresse
> >
> > gambas-user at ...1...
> >
> > should be gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> 
> No, I want the crash report to go to my private e-mail, not the 
> mailing-list! Because it may include private data.
> 

Salut Beno?t,

The address is your account, but the CC on that email is filled with the
gambas-user at ...1...


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 14 15:01:06 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:01:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Returned mail: see transcript for details
In-Reply-To: <1410698570.3571.2.camel@...40...>
References: <1410688026.3436.6.camel@...40...>	<54157E39.5030208@...1...>
	<1410698570.3571.2.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <54159192.2000203@...1...>

Le 14/09/2014 14:42, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
> Am Sonntag, den 14.09.2014, 13:38 +0200 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> Le 14/09/2014 11:47, Charlie Reinl a ?crit :
>>> Salut Beno?t.
>>>
>>> tested crash report the following addresse
>>>
>>> gambas-user at ...1...
>>>
>>> should be gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>
>> No, I want the crash report to go to my private e-mail, not the
>> mailing-list! Because it may include private data.
>>
>
> Salut Beno?t,
>
> The address is your account, but the CC on that email is filled with the
> gambas-user at ...1...
>
>

Ha ok! I didn't understand.

I will fix it. Finally maybe I can send the mail to the mailing-list, as 
there is a check box to explicitely tell if the project must be sent or not.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From willy at ...2734...  Sun Sep 14 16:05:18 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:05:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.close BUG
Message-ID: <1410703518.5173.8.camel@...3024...>

Hi,

It came to my attention that closing a Main form with a simple Me.Close
doesn't close any other forms that still might be open.
It didn't used to be that way as far as I can remember, so it must have
sneaked in somewhere along the road.

Using Quit does close Main form and any other form that might still be
opened, but isn't advised for GUI and it also leaves some allocations
not freed. so not the way to go.

How to reproduce:
Make a project that opens another form, now close the main form using
Me.Close in event and see that only main form gets closed

Tested on Mint 13 Maya with Gambas 3.5.4 from Gambas-team stable PPA

[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.2.0-68-generic
Architecture=x86
Distribution=Linux Mint 13 Maya
Desktop=MATE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=2446M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.0.0.0
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3

Tested on Lubuntu 14.04 with Gambas 3.5.90 from Gambas-team daily builds
PPA (rev#6469 I believe)

[System]
Gambas=3.5.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.13.0-33-generic
Architecture=x86
Distribution=Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
Desktop=LXDE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_US.UTF-8
Memory=1002M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1000.8
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4


-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 14 16:23:01 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:23:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.close BUG
In-Reply-To: <1410703518.5173.8.camel@...3024...>
References: <1410703518.5173.8.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <5415A4C5.1080808@...1...>

Le 14/09/2014 16:05, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> It came to my attention that closing a Main form with a simple Me.Close
> doesn't close any other forms that still might be open.
> It didn't used to be that way as far as I can remember, so it must have
> sneaked in somewhere along the road.

This was automatic before (the first form was the main one), but this is 
not always desirable.

So now you must explicitely define which of your form is the boss, with 
the Application.MainWindow property.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From taboege at ...626...  Sun Sep 14 16:24:29 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:24:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.close BUG
In-Reply-To: <1410703518.5173.8.camel@...3024...>
References: <1410703518.5173.8.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <20140914142429.GA808@...2774...>

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, Willy Raets wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It came to my attention that closing a Main form with a simple Me.Close
> doesn't close any other forms that still might be open.
> It didn't used to be that way as far as I can remember, so it must have
> sneaked in somewhere along the road.
> 

As far as _I_ can remember it was always like this.

You can set Application.MainWindow from gb.qt4 (which is initially Null!)
to your main form to have all windows closed as soon as the main window is
closed.

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From taboege at ...626...  Sun Sep 14 16:29:56 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:29:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.close BUG
In-Reply-To: <20140914142429.GA808@...2774...>
References: <1410703518.5173.8.camel@...3024...>
 <20140914142429.GA808@...2774...>
Message-ID: <20140914142956.GB808@...2774...>

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, Willy Raets wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > It came to my attention that closing a Main form with a simple Me.Close
> > doesn't close any other forms that still might be open.
> > It didn't used to be that way as far as I can remember, so it must have
> > sneaked in somewhere along the road.
> > 
> 
> As far as _I_ can remember it was always like this.
> 

Seems my memory isn't as good anymore. The change happened in 2011:

r3581 | gambas | 2011-02-19 03:21:34 +0100 (Sat, 19 Feb 2011) | 18 lines
* NEW: The application main window is not automatically defined anymore.

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From willy at ...2734...  Sun Sep 14 16:36:39 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:36:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Me.close BUG
In-Reply-To: <5415A4C5.1080808@...1...>
References: <1410703518.5173.8.camel@...3024...>
	<5415A4C5.1080808@...1...>
Message-ID: <1410705399.5173.33.camel@...3024...>

On zo, 2014-09-14 at 16:23 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 14/09/2014 16:05, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > It came to my attention that closing a Main form with a simple Me.Close
> > doesn't close any other forms that still might be open.
> > It didn't used to be that way as far as I can remember, so it must have
> > sneaked in somewhere along the road.
> 
> This was automatic before (the first form was the main one), but this is 
> not always desirable.
> 
> So now you must explicitely define which of your form is the boss, with 
> the Application.MainWindow property.


Thanks for the quick response.
Seems I've got some work to do on all my projects :)

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From gambas at ...2524...  Sun Sep 14 16:55:13 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 14:55:13 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 257 in gambas: Database password retrieval
 error and abort in IDE
In-Reply-To: <16-6813199134517018827-17207463185108027121-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <16-6813199134517018827-17207463185108027121-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-17207463185108027121-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <17-6813199134517018827-17207463185108027121-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: Started

Comment #17 on issue 257 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Database password  
retrieval error and abort in IDE
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=257

The message is incorrect. Your project actually need the 'gb.desktop'  
component to be able to access the database passwords stored in the KDE  
waller / GNOME keyring.

As for XFCE, I don't know if it has something like a specific password  
wallet.

At the moment, if the desktop is KDE/KDE4, the KDE waller is used.  
Otherwise the GNOME 2 keyring is used.

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From taboege at ...626...  Sun Sep 14 16:57:11 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:57:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Firebird?
Message-ID: <20140914145711.GD808@...2774...>

Hi,

I have seen in the commit logs that gb.db.firebird does not exist anymore
but there are traces of Firebird in the docs, among them:

 - http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/odbc which implies that firebird can be
   used through ODBC (I have no clue about that),
 - http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/fedora which lists some firebird
   packages to install to compile Gambas,
 - http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.db/connection/type which says we can
   set Connection.Type = "firebird".

Is any of these not meant to be in the docs anymore? I will try to remove
wrong information when I understand the situation (and install a warning on
gb.db's page because Hans has spent a day installing and configuring
firebird until I just found out that it may not be relevant anymore).

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 14 17:13:05 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 17:13:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Firebird?
In-Reply-To: <20140914145711.GD808@...2774...>
References: <20140914145711.GD808@...2774...>
Message-ID: <5415B081.6010806@...1...>

Le 14/09/2014 16:57, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> I have seen in the commit logs that gb.db.firebird does not exist anymore
> but there are traces of Firebird in the docs, among them:
>
>   - http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/odbc which implies that firebird can be
>     used through ODBC (I have no clue about that),
>   - http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/fedora which lists some firebird
>     packages to install to compile Gambas,
>   - http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.db/connection/type which says we can
>     set Connection.Type = "firebird".
>
> Is any of these not meant to be in the docs anymore? I will try to remove
> wrong information when I understand the situation (and install a warning on
> gb.db's page because Hans has spent a day installing and configuring
> firebird until I just found out that it may not be relevant anymore).
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>

Firebird is not GPL-compatible, so I cannot integrate it into Gambas. 
You can remove any reference to it.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...2524...  Sun Sep 14 17:14:21 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:14:21 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 257 in gambas: Database password retrieval
 error and abort in IDE
In-Reply-To: <17-6813199134517018827-17207463185108027121-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Comment #18 on issue 257 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Database password  
retrieval error and abort in IDE
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=257

The message is incorrect. Your project actually needs the 'gb.desktop'  
component to be able to access the database passwords stored in the KDE  
wallet / GNOME keyring.

As for XFCE, I don't know if it has something like a specific password  
wallet.

At the moment, if the desktop is KDE/KDE4, the KDE wallet is used.  
Otherwise the GNOME 2 keyring is used.

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From willy at ...2734...  Sun Sep 14 17:25:33 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 17:25:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Firebird?
In-Reply-To: <20140914145711.GD808@...2774...>
References: <20140914145711.GD808@...2774...>
Message-ID: <1410708333.5173.43.camel@...3024...>

On zo, 2014-09-14 at 16:57 +0200, Tobias Boege wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have seen in the commit logs that gb.db.firebird does not exist anymore
> but there are traces of Firebird in the docs, among them:
> 
>  - http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/odbc which implies that firebird can be
>    used through ODBC (I have no clue about that),

ODBC stands for Open Database Connectivity. Any database system
supporting ODBC can be accessed. I believe that goes for Firebird (never
ever used it, but most DBMS support it)

>  - http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/fedora which lists some firebird
>    packages to install to compile Gambas,

I haven't written the compilation instructions, but do not believe that
any firebird packages are needed for Gambas installation (that might be
a historical left over from Gambas 2)
Have you encountered any firebird packages in the compilation
instructions for other distributions?

>  - http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb.db/connection/type which says we can
>    set Connection.Type = "firebird".

I guess another historical left over.

I believe there used to be a firebird component in Gambas 2, but because
of firebird licenses not being conform GNU General Public license, it
was removed from Gambas.


> Is any of these not meant to be in the docs anymore? I will try to remove
> wrong information when I understand the situation (and install a warning on
> gb.db's page because Hans has spent a day installing and configuring
> firebird until I just found out that it may not be relevant anymore).
> 

Beno?t should know for sure.

> Regards,
> Tobi
> 

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From epost at ...3323...  Sun Sep 14 19:16:02 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?UTF-8?B?SsO4cm4gRXJpayBNw7hybmU=?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 19:16:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error when project's build folder has been relocated
Message-ID: <5415CD52.5080805@...3323...>

If I move my project's build folder (where I store the install packages) 
to a new place (and the IDE is NOT running of course), and then open the 
project in the IDE and try to make a install package, I get this error 
(see attached screenshot).



Here the path in the error is the old path I used to export to. Now I 
have to make that folder in order to get the make install package dialog 
to open.
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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 14 21:06:12 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 21:06:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to auto-reload webview
In-Reply-To: <CABGO1xgKE-LcU6UELd4u7wYSKkgasK_xGi77tYTTJowK4viEHg@...627...>
References: <CABGO1xgKE-LcU6UELd4u7wYSKkgasK_xGi77tYTTJowK4viEHg@...627...>
Message-ID: <5415E724.5080805@...1...>

Le 03/09/2014 22:57, Antonio S?nchez a ?crit :
> In this project, when I try to change fonts, Webview1 need right click and
> select "reload" to show new font choosen. Is there any way to auto-refresh
> or auto-reload the page showed in Webview1?
>
>
> I tried with webview1.reload() and webview1.refresh(), but this doesn't
> work.
>
>
> Thanks.
>

You can try webview1.Reload(True) with a recent development version, or 
you can assign the URL property again.

Regards,

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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 14 21:06:18 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 21:06:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error when project's build folder has been
	relocated
In-Reply-To: <5415CD52.5080805@...3323...>
References: <5415CD52.5080805@...3323...>
Message-ID: <5415E72A.2090102@...1...>

Le 14/09/2014 19:16, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> If I move my project's build folder (where I store the install packages)
> to a new place (and the IDE is NOT running of course), and then open the
> project in the IDE and try to make a install package, I get this error
> (see attached screenshot).
>
>
>
> Here the path in the error is the old path I used to export to. Now I
> have to make that folder in order to get the make install package dialog
> to open.
>

It should be fixed in revision #6476.

Regards,

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From olivier.cruilles at ...614...  Sun Sep 14 21:41:55 2014
From: olivier.cruilles at ...614... (Yahoo)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:41:55 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Webview picture display.
Message-ID: <D694F694-C35D-4E7B-BFAD-2C905E32A8AC@...614...>

Hello all,

I'm trying to display pictures into a Webview object. It works well when the HTML page to display come from a file but I don't know how to do the same by injecting HTML text into the Webview object.
I don't know how to link image in this case.

Does someone have an idea of how to do that please ?

Olivier


From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep 15 05:29:22 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 03:29:22 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 558 in gambas: Gambas is missing a Radio
	Menu Item
In-Reply-To: <2-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <3-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: Fixed

Comment #3 on issue 558 by benoit.m... at ...626...: Gambas is missing a Radio  
Menu Item
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=558

Done in revision #6477.

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From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep 15 09:15:50 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:15:50 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 557 in gambas: Stack Overflow
In-Reply-To: <13-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <13-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Comment #14 on issue 557 by lukadisanto: Stack Overflow
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=557

I add gambas3 daily ppa and i see that gambas start with FaenzaFlattr icons.

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From jleake at ...3375...  Mon Sep 15 21:14:35 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:14:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Modules
Message-ID: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>

Hi All,

I am really struggling with the Gambas 3 documentation.

Can anyone tell me where I can find out what constitutes a 'module'  ?

Best regards,
John Leake




From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 15 21:25:12 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:25:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Modules
In-Reply-To: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>
References: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>
Message-ID: <54173D18.8010607@...1...>

Le 15/09/2014 21:14, John Leake a ?crit :
> Hi All,
>
> I am really struggling with the Gambas 3 documentation.
>
> Can anyone tell me where I can find out what constitutes a 'module'  ?
>
> Best regards,
> John Leake
>

A module is just a class whose all methods and properties are static. 
It's a thing coming from Visual Basic.

-- 
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From jleake at ...3375...  Mon Sep 15 21:29:17 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:29:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Modules
In-Reply-To: <54173D18.8010607@...1...>
References: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>
	<54173D18.8010607@...1...>
Message-ID: <54173E0D.3020702@...3375...>

> A module is just a class whose all methods and properties are static. 
> It's a thing coming from Visual Basic.
> 
Thank you. When and how is an instance instantiated ?



From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep 15 21:30:38 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:30:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Modules
In-Reply-To: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>
References: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140915193038.GB4437@...2774...>

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am really struggling with the Gambas 3 documentation.
> 
> Can anyone tell me where I can find out what constitutes a 'module'  ?
> 

See [0]:

"A static class is a class whose all members are static (see below). In
Gambas, a static class is also named a module."

Regards,
Tobi

[0] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/object-model

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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 15 21:36:04 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:36:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Modules
In-Reply-To: <54173E0D.3020702@...3375...>
References: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>	<54173D18.8010607@...1...>
	<54173E0D.3020702@...3375...>
Message-ID: <54173FA4.6000002@...1...>

Le 15/09/2014 21:29, John Leake a ?crit :
>> A module is just a class whose all methods and properties are static.
>> It's a thing coming from Visual Basic.
>>
> Thank you. When and how is an instance instantiated ?
>

It's static, that means it cannot be instantiated.

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From jleake at ...3375...  Mon Sep 15 21:43:38 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:43:38 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Modules
In-Reply-To: <54173FA4.6000002@...1...>
References: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>	<54173D18.8010607@...1...>	<54173E0D.3020702@...3375...>
	<54173FA4.6000002@...1...>
Message-ID: <5417416A.9080907@...3375...>

What scope do Functions/Subs and variables have when defined or declared
within a module ?



From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 15 21:46:40 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:46:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Modules
In-Reply-To: <5417416A.9080907@...3375...>
References: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>	<54173D18.8010607@...1...>	<54173E0D.3020702@...3375...>	<54173FA4.6000002@...1...>
	<5417416A.9080907@...3375...>
Message-ID: <54174220.30506@...1...>

Le 15/09/2014 21:43, John Leake a ?crit :
> What scope do Functions/Subs and variables have when defined or declared
> within a module ?
>

Private by default. It's like a class, except everything is static.

-- 
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From jleake at ...3375...  Mon Sep 15 23:52:17 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 22:52:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Modules
In-Reply-To: <54174220.30506@...1...>
References: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>	<54173D18.8010607@...1...>	<54173E0D.3020702@...3375...>	<54173FA4.6000002@...1...>	<5417416A.9080907@...3375...>
	<54174220.30506@...1...>
Message-ID: <54175F91.2000102@...3375...>

> 
> Private by default. It's like a class, except everything is static.
> 
So if I have a module containing some general purpose functions that I
wish to share across all the forms in a project,  can simply declare
these functions as Public within the module ?



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 16 00:03:22 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:03:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Modules
In-Reply-To: <54175F91.2000102@...3375...>
References: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>	<54173D18.8010607@...1...>	<54173E0D.3020702@...3375...>	<54173FA4.6000002@...1...>	<5417416A.9080907@...3375...>	<54174220.30506@...1...>
	<54175F91.2000102@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5417622A.6070303@...1...>

Le 15/09/2014 23:52, John Leake a ?crit :
>>
>> Private by default. It's like a class, except everything is static.
>>
> So if I have a module containing some general purpose functions that I
> wish to share across all the forms in a project,  can simply declare
> these functions as Public within the module ?
>

Yes.

-- 
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From bbruen at ...2308...  Tue Sep 16 01:02:46 2014
From: bbruen at ...2308... (B Bruen)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:32:46 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Modules
In-Reply-To: <5417622A.6070303@...1...>
References: <54173A9B.5050308@...3375...>
	<54173D18.8010607@...1...>
	<54173E0D.3020702@...3375...>
	<54173FA4.6000002@...1...>
	<5417416A.9080907@...3375...>
	<54174220.30506@...1...>
	<54175F91.2000102@...3375...>
	<5417622A.6070303@...1...>
Message-ID: <20140916083246.276992dc0cea17a64d04060b@...2308...>

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:03:22 +0200
Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...> wrote:

> Le 15/09/2014 23:52, John Leake a ?crit :
> >>
> >> Private by default. It's like a class, except everything is static.
> >>
> > So if I have a module containing some general purpose functions that I
> > wish to share across all the forms in a project,  can simply declare
> > these functions as Public within the module ?
> >
> 
> Yes.
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 

Also, if you need to share objects around the various parts of the project you can declare them in the module as either public variables or (if you want to add some shareable features) as properties of the module.

However, remember this: As you are accessing static features you need to explicitly use the module name qualifier when you reference them in other code.

So for example:

in module "MyUtil"

Public CurrentCustomer As CCustomer

Public Sub Execute_Current_Customer(PrejudiceLevel As Integer)
  CurrentCustomer = Null
End

in, say, "FMain"

Public Sub Load(CustID)

  MyUtil.CurrentCustomer.Load(CustID)
  If MyUtil.CurrentCustomer.IsLatePayer then
    MyUtil.Execute_Current_Customer(iExtreme)
  EndIf

etc


hth
Bruce


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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 16 01:50:05 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 01:50:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Planning the release of Gambas 3.6...
Message-ID: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>

Hi,

I plan to release Gambas 3.6 "soon" (not immediately).

I want to release Gambas 3.6 as soon as possible, as there is a lot of 
important bug fixes in it that cannot really be backported to Gambas 3.5.
If someone has a very important bug that is not fixed yet, or a needed 
feature that should be implement before, you must tell now.

And I will see what I can do. :-)

Regards,

-- 
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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 16 02:03:59 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 02:03:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] ...And what is planned for Gambas 3.7
Message-ID: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>

Hi again,

For the next version, I'd like to implement a Gambas dedicated software 
repository.

Here are my current thoughts about it, and I'd like to hear comments and 
ideas from you. I want to start with something as simple as possible 
first...

1) The Gambas repository is an http web service, but without website at 
the moment. It will allow to:
- upload software.
- search for software.
- download software.

2) A software is a compiled Gambas project, with eventually the source 
project. Nothing more.

3) In the IDE, I will add a dialog to upload your project.

4) Uploading a project requires:
- a login and a password, so you should be able to create an account 
from the IDE.
- a project name.
- a project description.
- a project icon.
- a project screenshot (optional).
- a project major version.
- tags. Some tags will be automatic (for example the component used by 
the project), some will be predefined.
- a project control sum (MD5/SHA...).

5) I will made an external Gambas program to:
- Search for projects inside the repository.
- Download and install a project somewhere in the user home directory.

6) That program should be able to know how to install the needed gambas 
binary packages according to the system distribution. If it is not 
possible, it should at least warn the user about missing components.

7) A Gambas program may depend on other programs in the repository. That 
way libraries will be able to be put in the repository too.

8) Gambas examples will be moved from the source tree to the repository.

9) The repository will be able to include the same program in different 
X.Y versions.

10) The web service protocol will be documented, and the server will be 
a GPL Gambas project, so that anybody can bring up its own repository if 
needed.

11) Consequently, we should be able to define different source 
repositories (like Ubuntu ppas) for downloading, and different targets 
for publishing.

Now just tell me what you think about that.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From willy at ...2734...  Tue Sep 16 02:04:08 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 02:04:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Planning the release of Gambas 3.6...
In-Reply-To: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>
Message-ID: <1410825848.7421.4.camel@...3024...>

On di, 2014-09-16 at 01:50 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I plan to release Gambas 3.6 "soon" (not immediately).
> 
> I want to release Gambas 3.6 as soon as possible, as there is a lot of 
> important bug fixes in it that cannot really be backported to Gambas 3.5.
> If someone has a very important bug that is not fixed yet, or a needed 
> feature that should be implement before, you must tell now.

Will the gb.smtp component have the authentication fix? That is about
the most important thing I'm waiting for.

> 
> And I will see what I can do. :-)
> 
> Regards,
> 

-- 
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http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 02:21:57 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:21:57 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] ...And what is planned for Gambas 3.7
In-Reply-To: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>
References: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL6UAqfdNjZZqeuQ2WMM-gJgZrw73EE--TTbDzr75T-zLw@...627...>

Just my thoughts,

I think a web front end for the website to allow searching of project would
be important. Also, perhaps projects should be sorted into components and
programs...

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Beno?t Minisini <
gambas at ...1...> wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> For the next version, I'd like to implement a Gambas dedicated software
> repository.
>
> Here are my current thoughts about it, and I'd like to hear comments and
> ideas from you. I want to start with something as simple as possible
> first...
>
> 1) The Gambas repository is an http web service, but without website at
> the moment. It will allow to:
> - upload software.
> - search for software.
> - download software.
>
> 2) A software is a compiled Gambas project, with eventually the source
> project. Nothing more.
>
> 3) In the IDE, I will add a dialog to upload your project.
>
> 4) Uploading a project requires:
> - a login and a password, so you should be able to create an account
> from the IDE.
> - a project name.
> - a project description.
> - a project icon.
> - a project screenshot (optional).
> - a project major version.
> - tags. Some tags will be automatic (for example the component used by
> the project), some will be predefined.
> - a project control sum (MD5/SHA...).
>
> 5) I will made an external Gambas program to:
> - Search for projects inside the repository.
> - Download and install a project somewhere in the user home directory.
>
> 6) That program should be able to know how to install the needed gambas
> binary packages according to the system distribution. If it is not
> possible, it should at least warn the user about missing components.
>
> 7) A Gambas program may depend on other programs in the repository. That
> way libraries will be able to be put in the repository too.
>
> 8) Gambas examples will be moved from the source tree to the repository.
>
> 9) The repository will be able to include the same program in different
> X.Y versions.
>
> 10) The web service protocol will be documented, and the server will be
> a GPL Gambas project, so that anybody can bring up its own repository if
> needed.
>
> 11) Consequently, we should be able to define different source
> repositories (like Ubuntu ppas) for downloading, and different targets
> for publishing.
>
> Now just tell me what you think about that.
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
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The correct questions however are... What will it cost, and how long will
it take?


From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 16 02:35:52 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 02:35:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Planning the release of Gambas 3.6...
In-Reply-To: <1410827159.7421.8.camel@...3024...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	
	<1410825848.7421.4.camel@...3024...>
	<54178253.2070000@...1...>
	<1410827159.7421.8.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <541785E8.80805@...1...>

Le 16/09/2014 02:25, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> On di, 2014-09-16 at 02:20 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> Le 16/09/2014 02:04, Willy Raets a ?crit :
>>> On di, 2014-09-16 at 01:50 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I plan to release Gambas 3.6 "soon" (not immediately).
>>>>
>>>> I want to release Gambas 3.6 as soon as possible, as there is a lot of
>>>> important bug fixes in it that cannot really be backported to Gambas 3.5.
>>>> If someone has a very important bug that is not fixed yet, or a needed
>>>> feature that should be implement before, you must tell now.
>>>
>>> Will the gb.smtp component have the authentication fix? That is about
>>> the most important thing I'm waiting for.
>>>
>>
>> It's fixed in /trunk, unless you are talking about another bug I'm not
>> aware of.
>
> I know it is fixed in trunk and I have tested the fix to work, but you
> wrote that gb.smtp was unfinished (as you were rewriting the component)
> and not sure it would make the 3.6 release.
> So, does it make the 3.6 release or will it be in the 3.7 release?
>

In Gambas 3.6. It's fixed in /trunk, and /trunk is the next Gambas 3.6.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From willy at ...2734...  Tue Sep 16 02:37:35 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 02:37:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Planning the release of Gambas 3.6...
In-Reply-To: <541785E8.80805@...1...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>
	<1410825848.7421.4.camel@...3024...>
	<54178253.2070000@...1...>
	<1410827159.7421.8.camel@...3024...>
	<541785E8.80805@...1...>
Message-ID: <1410827855.7421.9.camel@...3024...>

On di, 2014-09-16 at 02:35 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 16/09/2014 02:25, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> > On di, 2014-09-16 at 02:20 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> >> Le 16/09/2014 02:04, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> >>> On di, 2014-09-16 at 01:50 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I plan to release Gambas 3.6 "soon" (not immediately).
> >>>>
> >>>> I want to release Gambas 3.6 as soon as possible, as there is a lot of
> >>>> important bug fixes in it that cannot really be backported to Gambas 3.5.
> >>>> If someone has a very important bug that is not fixed yet, or a needed
> >>>> feature that should be implement before, you must tell now.
> >>>
> >>> Will the gb.smtp component have the authentication fix? That is about
> >>> the most important thing I'm waiting for.
> >>>
> >>
> >> It's fixed in /trunk, unless you are talking about another bug I'm not
> >> aware of.
> >
> > I know it is fixed in trunk and I have tested the fix to work, but you
> > wrote that gb.smtp was unfinished (as you were rewriting the component)
> > and not sure it would make the 3.6 release.
> > So, does it make the 3.6 release or will it be in the 3.7 release?
> >
> 
> In Gambas 3.6. It's fixed in /trunk, and /trunk is the next Gambas 3.6.

Great,

Thank you very much.
> 

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From t.lee.davidson at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 03:26:30 2014
From: t.lee.davidson at ...626... (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:26:30 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] ...And what is planned for Gambas 3.7
In-Reply-To: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>
References: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>
Message-ID: <541791C6.2090303@...626...>

If I recall correctly, this idea has come up before. And, I think it's a 
great idea. Good to hear there is "official" support for it with a 
project in planning.

I think Randall's suggestion of a web front end is a good idea. That 
would expose the software, and Gambas itself, to a larger audience than 
just those who have the external Search/Download Gambas program installed.


> 3) In the IDE, I will add a dialog to upload your project.

Restricting the ability to upload software to within the IDE and, hence, 
only those who have Gambas installed is a good idea. I do marketing, and 
I know there are unscrupulous marketers out there who will abuse any 
site they can just to make a buck. (Note: I do not consider *anyone* on 
this list to be in that category.)


> 4) Uploading a project requires:
> - a project screenshot (optional).

Maybe multiple screenshots optional? Eventually?

> - tags. Some tags will be automatic (for example the component used by
> the project), some will be predefined.

I also think software should be categorized especially if a web front 
end is implemented. But, perhaps predefined tags would cover that.


> I want to start with something as simple as possible first...

What you have proposed, Beno?t, does not sound very simple ;-) Very 
cool, yes! But not simple.

And in the interest of simple-at-first, I would like to add to a 
*future* wishlist:

12) A feedback/support venue similar in concept to what is provided on 
wordpress.org for themes and plugins. This would quite likely require 
the implementation of a web front-end, but maybe not.


I think this is exciting! You will let us know how we can help, won't 
you, Beno?t?


Lee


On 09/15/2014 08:03 PM, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> For the next version, I'd like to implement a Gambas dedicated software
> repository.
>
> Here are my current thoughts about it, and I'd like to hear comments and
> ideas from you. I want to start with something as simple as possible
> first...
>
> 1) The Gambas repository is an http web service, but without website at
> the moment. It will allow to:
> - upload software.
> - search for software.
> - download software.
>
> 2) A software is a compiled Gambas project, with eventually the source
> project. Nothing more.
>
> 3) In the IDE, I will add a dialog to upload your project.
>
> 4) Uploading a project requires:
> - a login and a password, so you should be able to create an account
> from the IDE.
> - a project name.
> - a project description.
> - a project icon.
> - a project screenshot (optional).
> - a project major version.
> - tags. Some tags will be automatic (for example the component used by
> the project), some will be predefined.
> - a project control sum (MD5/SHA...).
>
> 5) I will made an external Gambas program to:
> - Search for projects inside the repository.
> - Download and install a project somewhere in the user home directory.
>
> 6) That program should be able to know how to install the needed gambas
> binary packages according to the system distribution. If it is not
> possible, it should at least warn the user about missing components.
>
> 7) A Gambas program may depend on other programs in the repository. That
> way libraries will be able to be put in the repository too.
>
> 8) Gambas examples will be moved from the source tree to the repository.
>
> 9) The repository will be able to include the same program in different
> X.Y versions.
>
> 10) The web service protocol will be documented, and the server will be
> a GPL Gambas project, so that anybody can bring up its own repository if
> needed.
>
> 11) Consequently, we should be able to define different source
> repositories (like Ubuntu ppas) for downloading, and different targets
> for publishing.
>
> Now just tell me what you think about that.
>



From olivier.cruilles at ...614...  Tue Sep 16 04:30:17 2014
From: olivier.cruilles at ...614... (Olivier Cruilles)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 22:30:17 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] ...And what is planned for Gambas 3.7
In-Reply-To: <541791C6.2090303@...626...>
References: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>
	<541791C6.2090303@...626...>
Message-ID: <C30E14E7-ADC1-4A00-8EC9-08475CDC1D8B@...614...>

Salut Benoit,

J'?cris en fran?ais car je sais pas le dire en anglais.

A chaque fois que tu nous annonces une nouvelle ou une id?e que tu as je reste sur le cul, litt?ralement.

Excellente id?e comme toujours...merci

Olivier Cruilles
Le 15 sept. 2014 ? 21:26, T Lee Davidson <t.lee.davidson at ...626...> a ?crit :

> If I recall correctly, this idea has come up before. And, I think it's a 
> great idea. Good to hear there is "official" support for it with a 
> project in planning.
> 
> I think Randall's suggestion of a web front end is a good idea. That 
> would expose the software, and Gambas itself, to a larger audience than 
> just those who have the external Search/Download Gambas program installed.
> 
> 
>> 3) In the IDE, I will add a dialog to upload your project.
> 
> Restricting the ability to upload software to within the IDE and, hence, 
> only those who have Gambas installed is a good idea. I do marketing, and 
> I know there are unscrupulous marketers out there who will abuse any 
> site they can just to make a buck. (Note: I do not consider *anyone* on 
> this list to be in that category.)
> 
> 
>> 4) Uploading a project requires:
>> - a project screenshot (optional).
> 
> Maybe multiple screenshots optional? Eventually?
> 
>> - tags. Some tags will be automatic (for example the component used by
>> the project), some will be predefined.
> 
> I also think software should be categorized especially if a web front 
> end is implemented. But, perhaps predefined tags would cover that.
> 
> 
>> I want to start with something as simple as possible first...
> 
> What you have proposed, Beno?t, does not sound very simple ;-) Very 
> cool, yes! But not simple.
> 
> And in the interest of simple-at-first, I would like to add to a 
> *future* wishlist:
> 
> 12) A feedback/support venue similar in concept to what is provided on 
> wordpress.org for themes and plugins. This would quite likely require 
> the implementation of a web front-end, but maybe not.
> 
> 
> I think this is exciting! You will let us know how we can help, won't 
> you, Beno?t?
> 
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> On 09/15/2014 08:03 PM, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> For the next version, I'd like to implement a Gambas dedicated software
>> repository.
>> 
>> Here are my current thoughts about it, and I'd like to hear comments and
>> ideas from you. I want to start with something as simple as possible
>> first...
>> 
>> 1) The Gambas repository is an http web service, but without website at
>> the moment. It will allow to:
>> - upload software.
>> - search for software.
>> - download software.
>> 
>> 2) A software is a compiled Gambas project, with eventually the source
>> project. Nothing more.
>> 
>> 3) In the IDE, I will add a dialog to upload your project.
>> 
>> 4) Uploading a project requires:
>> - a login and a password, so you should be able to create an account
>> from the IDE.
>> - a project name.
>> - a project description.
>> - a project icon.
>> - a project screenshot (optional).
>> - a project major version.
>> - tags. Some tags will be automatic (for example the component used by
>> the project), some will be predefined.
>> - a project control sum (MD5/SHA...).
>> 
>> 5) I will made an external Gambas program to:
>> - Search for projects inside the repository.
>> - Download and install a project somewhere in the user home directory.
>> 
>> 6) That program should be able to know how to install the needed gambas
>> binary packages according to the system distribution. If it is not
>> possible, it should at least warn the user about missing components.
>> 
>> 7) A Gambas program may depend on other programs in the repository. That
>> way libraries will be able to be put in the repository too.
>> 
>> 8) Gambas examples will be moved from the source tree to the repository.
>> 
>> 9) The repository will be able to include the same program in different
>> X.Y versions.
>> 
>> 10) The web service protocol will be documented, and the server will be
>> a GPL Gambas project, so that anybody can bring up its own repository if
>> needed.
>> 
>> 11) Consequently, we should be able to define different source
>> repositories (like Ubuntu ppas) for downloading, and different targets
>> for publishing.
>> 
>> Now just tell me what you think about that.
>> 
> 
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From ihaywood3 at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 05:05:14 2014
From: ihaywood3 at ...626... (Ian Haywood)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:05:14 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] ...And what is planned for Gambas 3.7
In-Reply-To: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>
References: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>
Message-ID: <CAKt6K_fSFH9qKfVxNVfotbxpLoLTOYj+nGt8bOEj5uMteVwJ4w@...627...>

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Beno?t Minisini
<gambas at ...1...> wrote:

> 7) A Gambas program may depend on other programs in the repository. That
> way libraries will be able to be put in the repository too.
currently libraries must sit in a directory on $PATH. On most systems
all directories
in $PATH are not user-writable.
Therefore a user cannot install libraries that compiled programs can use AFAICT

I've proposed this before I know: a separate environment variable for
directories to search, presumably GAMBASPATH (like PYTHONPATH, or
Java's CLASSPATH)

This would also help with my .project/.startup svn issue (which can't
be fixed by Gambas directly as there is a lot of non-Gambas stuff in
our repo)

Ian



From gambas at ...2524...  Tue Sep 16 07:11:35 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 05:11:35 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 559 in gambas: default charset is not unicode
Message-ID: <0-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Status: New
Owner: ----
Labels: Version-3.5.4 Type-Bug Priority-Medium OpSys-Any Dist-Any Arch-Any  
Desktop-Any GUI-Any

New issue 559 by isaf... at ...626...: default charset is not unicode
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=559

1) Describe the problem.
According to Gambas 3 documentation when I create database and tables using  
database-independent method then it creates in unicode charset. But the  
table or field charset is not unicode when I create table in mariadb 10.

2) Give information about your system.
[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.13.0-35-generic
Architecture=x86
Distribution=Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
Desktop=GNOME
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_US.UTF-8
Memory=1945M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4

Database:
Mariadb 10

3) Provide a little project that reproduces the bug or the crash.

Create a table:

Dim hTable As Table
If Not $con.Tables.Exist("tblextra") Then
     hTable = $con.Tables.Add("tblextra")
     hTable.Fields.Add("fldid", db.Serial)
     hTable.Fields.Add("fldextraid", gb.String, 200)
     hTable.PrimaryKey = ["fldid"]
     hTable.Update
   Endif

Check collation and charset of table and fields using phpmyadmin. You won't  
find unicode.
Insert a sentence in unicode character. When you output same sentence in  
textbox or textarea you get something like "????"



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From jleake at ...3375...  Tue Sep 16 07:50:31 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 06:50:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Planning the release of Gambas 3.6...
In-Reply-To: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>
Message-ID: <5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>

Any chance of adding opacity and colour to simple controls ?



From chrisml at ...3340...  Tue Sep 16 07:59:58 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:59:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
In-Reply-To: <20140912085200.GA976@...2774...> (sfid-)
References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...>
	<54121BED.3060008@...3340...>	<20140911223428.GM1564@...2774...>
	<54129701.9030500@...3340...> <20140912085200.GA976@...2774...>
	(sfid-)
Message-ID: <5417D1DE.6030306@...3340...>

Hi Tobias,

Am 12.09.2014 um 10:52 schrieb Tobias Boege:

>>> Have you tested that? Do you have a patch for the project?

Did a correction, please test it. Now it should not hang any more and
work as expected.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From rolf.frogs at ...221...  Tue Sep 16 09:46:48 2014
From: rolf.frogs at ...221... (rolf)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:46:48 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] ...And what is planned for Gambas 3.7
In-Reply-To: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>
References: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>
Message-ID: <201409160946.50060.rolf.frogs@...221...>


Hi Beno?t

> For the next version, I'd like to implement a Gambas dedicated software
> repository.
It sounds good

> 1) The Gambas repository is an http web service, but without website at
> the moment. It will allow to:
> - upload software.
> - search for software.
> - download software.
>
> 2) A software is a compiled Gambas project, with eventually the source
> project. Nothing more.
>
> 3) In the IDE, I will add a dialog to upload your project.
>
> 4) Uploading a project requires:
> - a login and a password, so you should be able to create an account
> from the IDE.
> - a project name.
> - a project description.
> - a project icon.
> - a project screenshot (optional).
> - a project major version.
> - tags. Some tags will be automatic (for example the component used by
> the project), some will be predefined.
> - a project control sum (MD5/SHA...).
>
> 5) I will made an external Gambas program to:
> - Search for projects inside the repository.
> - Download and install a project somewhere in the user home directory.
>
> 6) That program should be able to know how to install the needed gambas
> binary packages according to the system distribution. If it is not
> possible, it should at least warn the user about missing components.
>
> 7) A Gambas program may depend on other programs in the repository. That
> way libraries will be able to be put in the repository too.
>
> 8) Gambas examples will be moved from the source tree to the repository.
That is not a good idea in my opinion, because one cannot start programming or 
look at examples without an internet connection. A set of basic examples 
should still be installed locally, when install gambas.

Just my 2 ct.
Rolf



From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 09:44:39 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:44:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.db.form: Program hangs after erasing content
 in a DataControl and clicking into a DataBrowser
In-Reply-To: <5417D1DE.6030306@...3340...>
References: <20140911175758.GJ1564@...2774...> <54121BED.3060008@...3340...>
	<20140911223428.GM1564@...2774...> <54129701.9030500@...3340...>
	<20140912085200.GA976@...2774...> <5417D1DE.6030306@...3340...>
Message-ID: <20140916074439.GD4437@...2774...>

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Hi Tobias,
> 
> Am 12.09.2014 um 10:52 schrieb Tobias Boege:
> 
> >>> Have you tested that? Do you have a patch for the project?
> 
> Did a correction, please test it. Now it should not hang any more and
> work as expected.
> 

Thank you!

Attached is the patch corresponding to your change (just for completeness;
I like patches better).

I will send it to Hans as I'm running a more recent Gambas version in which
the hang does not occur in the first place (with the original project).

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 16 10:22:17 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:22:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Planning the release of Gambas 3.6...
In-Reply-To: <5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>
	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5417F339.30000@...1...>

Le 16/09/2014 07:50, John Leake a ?crit :
> Any chance of adding opacity and colour to simple controls ?
>

You can already assign a transparent background color to controls. But:

- toolkits don't support global opacity for one control. Or at least I 
didn't see where!

- toolkits do not take background and foreground colors into account 
necessarily. It depends on the underlying widget theme.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jusabejusabe at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 10:43:18 2014
From: jusabejusabe at ...626... (Julio Sanchez)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:43:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Add configurable toolbar buttons within the IDE to
 assign external programs and / or executables .gambas
Message-ID: <CAFM-pnsHjWFX5UbWz=sBTVx0ws_TjJYvU22s1yU9MDd0zKhsCA@...627...>

Benoit:

Request for improvement or expansion:

Add configurable toolbar buttons within the IDE to assign external programs
and / or executables .gambas

It would be a simple and easy way to add simple facts pluggins  to ide
gambas

Regards

Julio


From jusabejusabe at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 10:44:56 2014
From: jusabejusabe at ...626... (Julio Sanchez)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:44:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Add configurable toolbar buttons within the IDE
 to assign external programs and / or executables .gambas
In-Reply-To: <CAFM-pnsHjWFX5UbWz=sBTVx0ws_TjJYvU22s1yU9MDd0zKhsCA@...627...>
References: <CAFM-pnsHjWFX5UbWz=sBTVx0ws_TjJYvU22s1yU9MDd0zKhsCA@...627...>
Message-ID: <CAFM-pns_5QRAYgs=dA2Dcjyg3fw7AXNEg1gA+_vT8jd2WcEAog@...627...>

Note:
You could also add a new menu with several configurable item

2014-09-16 10:43 GMT+02:00 Julio Sanchez <jusabejusabe at ...626...>:

> Benoit:
>
> Request for improvement or expansion:
>
> Add configurable toolbar buttons within the IDE to assign external
> programs and / or executables .gambas
>
> It would be a simple and easy way to add simple facts pluggins  to ide
> gambas
>
> Regards
>
> Julio
>


From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 10:55:05 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 01:55:05 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] ...And what is planned for Gambas 3.7
In-Reply-To: <201409160946.50060.rolf.frogs@...221...>
References: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>
	<201409160946.50060.rolf.frogs@...221...>
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I would allow the user to chose during installation if basic help files and
basic example files were to be downloaded locally. But let the user know
that there are more available online. That way those like myself who often
travel to where there is no internet can decide what they need to take with
them.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:46 AM, rolf <rolf.frogs at ...221...> wrote:

>
> Hi Beno?t
>
> > For the next version, I'd like to implement a Gambas dedicated software
> > repository.
> It sounds good
>
> > 1) The Gambas repository is an http web service, but without website at
> > the moment. It will allow to:
> > - upload software.
> > - search for software.
> > - download software.
> >
> > 2) A software is a compiled Gambas project, with eventually the source
> > project. Nothing more.
> >
> > 3) In the IDE, I will add a dialog to upload your project.
> >
> > 4) Uploading a project requires:
> > - a login and a password, so you should be able to create an account
> > from the IDE.
> > - a project name.
> > - a project description.
> > - a project icon.
> > - a project screenshot (optional).
> > - a project major version.
> > - tags. Some tags will be automatic (for example the component used by
> > the project), some will be predefined.
> > - a project control sum (MD5/SHA...).
> >
> > 5) I will made an external Gambas program to:
> > - Search for projects inside the repository.
> > - Download and install a project somewhere in the user home directory.
> >
> > 6) That program should be able to know how to install the needed gambas
> > binary packages according to the system distribution. If it is not
> > possible, it should at least warn the user about missing components.
> >
> > 7) A Gambas program may depend on other programs in the repository. That
> > way libraries will be able to be put in the repository too.
> >
> > 8) Gambas examples will be moved from the source tree to the repository.
> That is not a good idea in my opinion, because one cannot start
> programming or
> look at examples without an internet connection. A set of basic examples
> should still be installed locally, when install gambas.
>
> Just my 2 ct.
> Rolf
>
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 16 10:57:13 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:57:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Add configurable toolbar buttons within the IDE
 to assign external programs and / or executables .gambas
In-Reply-To: <CAFM-pns_5QRAYgs=dA2Dcjyg3fw7AXNEg1gA+_vT8jd2WcEAog@...627...>
References: <CAFM-pnsHjWFX5UbWz=sBTVx0ws_TjJYvU22s1yU9MDd0zKhsCA@...627...>
	<CAFM-pns_5QRAYgs=dA2Dcjyg3fw7AXNEg1gA+_vT8jd2WcEAog@...627...>
Message-ID: <5417FB69.2030904@...1...>

Le 16/09/2014 10:44, Julio Sanchez a ?crit :
> Note:
> You could also add a new menu with several configurable item
>
> 2014-09-16 10:43 GMT+02:00 Julio Sanchez <jusabejusabe at ...626...>:
>
>> Benoit:
>>
>> Request for improvement or expansion:
>>
>> Add configurable toolbar buttons within the IDE to assign external
>> programs and / or executables .gambas
>>
>> It would be a simple and easy way to add simple facts pluggins  to ide
>> gambas
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Julio
>>

Can you post a "enhancement" issue about that into the issue tracker? If 
not already done of course!

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From gambas at ...2524...  Tue Sep 16 11:13:28 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:13:28 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 559 in gambas: default charset is not
	unicode
In-Reply-To: <0-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <0-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <1-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: Accepted
	Labels: -Version-3.5.4 Version-3.5.0

Comment #1 on issue 559 by benoit.m... at ...626...: default charset is not  
unicode
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=559

Please tell me where you read that in the documentation, because it is  
false.

The database component does not specify the collation nor the charset when  
creating a table, so you get what the default is in your database server.

I will check other DBMS to see how to specify collation and charset. Maybe  
I will be able to add that feature to the database component.

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From gambas at ...2524...  Tue Sep 16 11:20:31 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:20:31 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 560 in gambas: Add configurable toolbar buttons
 within the IDE to assign external programs and / or executables .gambas
Message-ID: <0-6813199134517018827-177981621960447893-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Status: New
Owner: ----
Labels: Version-TRUNK Type-Enhancement Priority-Medium OpSys-Any Dist-Any  
Arch-Any Desktop-Any GUI-Any

New issue 560 by torredel... at ...626...: Add configurable toolbar buttons  
within the IDE to assign external programs and / or executables .gambas
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=560

Request for improvement or expansion:

Add configurable toolbar buttons within the IDE to assign external programs  
and / or executables .gambas

It would be a simple and easy way to add simple facts pluggins  to ide  
gambas

Note:
You could also add a new menu with several configurable item

Regards

Julio

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From jusabejusabe at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 11:22:51 2014
From: jusabejusabe at ...626... (Julio Sanchez)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 11:22:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Add configurable toolbar buttons within the IDE
 to assign external programs and / or executables .gambas
In-Reply-To: <5417FB69.2030904@...1...>
References: <CAFM-pnsHjWFX5UbWz=sBTVx0ws_TjJYvU22s1yU9MDd0zKhsCA@...627...>
	<CAFM-pns_5QRAYgs=dA2Dcjyg3fw7AXNEg1gA+_vT8jd2WcEAog@...627...>
	<5417FB69.2030904@...1...>
Message-ID: <CAFM-pnupAjpGm-Lp92Qidw5kRS3bKfCXF_9Nr5LjswbztV8Ang@...627...>

Beno?t:
 ok, I just add, I think it is the 560 issue

Regards

Julio



2014-09-16 10:57 GMT+02:00 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:

> Le 16/09/2014 10:44, Julio Sanchez a ?crit :
> > Note:
> > You could also add a new menu with several configurable item
> >
> > 2014-09-16 10:43 GMT+02:00 Julio Sanchez <jusabejusabe at ...626...>:
> >
> >> Benoit:
> >>
> >> Request for improvement or expansion:
> >>
> >> Add configurable toolbar buttons within the IDE to assign external
> >> programs and / or executables .gambas
> >>
> >> It would be a simple and easy way to add simple facts pluggins  to ide
> >> gambas
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Julio
> >>
>
> Can you post a "enhancement" issue about that into the issue tracker? If
> not already done of course!
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
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From gambas at ...2524...  Tue Sep 16 11:24:52 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:24:52 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 561 in gambas: Add configurable toolbar buttons
 within the IDE to assign external programs and / or executables .gambas
Message-ID: <0-6813199134517018827-10435532471081136347-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Status: New
Owner: ----
Labels: Version-TRUNK Type-Enhancement Priority-Medium OpSys-Any Dist-Any  
Arch-Any Desktop-Any GUI-Any

New issue 561 by torredel... at ...626...: Add configurable toolbar buttons  
within the IDE to assign external programs and / or executables .gambas
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=561

Request for improvement or expansion:

Add configurable toolbar buttons within the IDE to assign external programs  
and / or executables .gambas

It would be a simple and easy way to add simple facts pluggins  to ide  
gambas
Note:
You could also add a new menu with several configurable item

Regards

Julio

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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 16 16:43:14 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:43:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Skipped 'trunk/comp/src/gb.report/.info' -- Node
 remains in conflict
In-Reply-To: <1410696374.39998.YahooMailBasic@...3274...>
References: <1410696374.39998.YahooMailBasic@...3274...>
Message-ID: <54184C82.4090309@...1...>

Le 14/09/2014 14:06, Ru Vuott a ?crit :
> Hello,
>
> updating via SVN my Gambas, I obtained this strange notice:
>
> ~ $ svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/gambas/code/gambas/trunk
> Skipped 'trunk/comp/src/gb.report/.info' -- Node remains in conflict
> Checked out revision 6473.
>
>
>
> What is this ?
>
> Regards
> vuott
>

"svn checkout" is not for updating, but for creating a new local repository.

To update a repository, you must use "svn update".

The message means that there is a pending conflict file inside your 
local repository.

If you don't know how to deal with svn conflicts, the simpler is 
recreating a new local repository from scratch...with "svn checkout"!

Regards,

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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 16 16:44:47 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:44:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>	<5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>
	<5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>
Message-ID: <54184CDF.6090101@...1...>

Le 13/09/2014 23:47, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>
> Den 13. sep. 2014 23:41, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>> Le 13/09/2014 23:28, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>> If I may add one more issue - hope I am not flooding here now, but this
>>> one has been around since day one. On Manjaro, making installation
>>> packages fail...
>>>
>>> ========================================
>>>
>>> Saving CHANGELOG file.
>>>
>>> ========================================
>>>
>>> Creating package for Archlinux.
>>>
>>> ========================================
>>>
>>> Making build directory.
>>> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
>>> makepkg -g >> PKGBUILD
>>> ==> Henter kilder...
>>> ==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og
>>> den er heller ikke en URL.
>>> Creating package...
>>>
>>> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
>>> makepkg --allsource
>>> ==> Lager pakke: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200 2014)
>>> ==> Henter kilder...
>>> ==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og
>>> den er heller ikke en URL.
>>> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
>>> makepkg -d
>>> ==> Lager pakke: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200 2014)
>>> ==> ADVARSEL: Hopper over kontroll av avhengigheter.
>>> ==> Henter kilder...
>>> ==> FEIL: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 ble ikke funnet i build-mappen, og
>>> den er heller ikke en URL.
>>> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
>>> cp syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.*
>>> /home/myUser/Programmering/GambasBuilds/Sycthing\ GUI/archlinux
>>> cp: klarte ikke ? hente informasjon om ?syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.*?:
>>> Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog
>>> The packages have been successfully created.
>>>
>>>
>> Can you translate the messages in english for me? I see that many things
>> failed, but I have no idea what.
>>
>
> ========================================
>
> Saving CHANGELOG file.
>
> ========================================
>
> Creating package for Archlinux.
>
> ========================================
>
> Making build directory.
> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
> makepkg -g >> PKGBUILD
> ==> Fetching sources
> ==> ERROR: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 was not found in the build-folder,
> and is not a URL.
> Creating package...
>
> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
> makepkg --allsource
> ==> Adding package: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200 2014)
> ==> Fetching sources...
> ==> ERROR: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 was not found in the build-folder,
> and is not a URL.
> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
> makepkg -d
> ==> Creating package: syncthinggui 0.0.4-1 (l?. 13. sep. 23:23:28 +0200
> 2014)
> ==> WARNING: Skipping dependency control.
> ==> Fetching sources...
> ==> ERROR: syncthinggui-0.0.4.tar.bz2 was not found in the build-folder,
> and is not a URL.
> cd /tmp/gambas.1000/30587/archlinux
> cp syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.*
> /home/myUser/Programmering/GambasBuilds/Sycthing\ GUI/archlinux
> cp: could not retrieve information about ?syncthinggui-0.0.4-1*.tar.*?:
> No such file or folder
> The packages have been successfully created.

Can you send me an archive of your project source?

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From vuott at ...325...  Tue Sep 16 17:07:47 2014
From: vuott at ...325... (Ru Vuott)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:07:47 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Skipped 'trunk/comp/src/gb.report/.info' -- Node
	remains in conflict
In-Reply-To: <54184C82.4090309@...1...>
Message-ID: <1410880067.5190.YahooMailBasic@...3275...>

> If you don't know how to deal with svn conflicts, the simpler is 
> recreating a new local repository from scratch...with "svn checkout"!
 
Excuse me,

maybe i didn't understand... but " ~ $ svn checkout "  and with what arguments ?  :-(

Regards
vuott






From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 17:13:35 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:13:35 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Skipped 'trunk/comp/src/gb.report/.info' -- Node
 remains in conflict
In-Reply-To: <1410880067.5190.YahooMailBasic@...3275...>
References: <54184C82.4090309@...1...>
	<1410880067.5190.YahooMailBasic@...3275...>
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL4KVpRcvsP3s70aVOTk-AXx2MZQLH2M6hkexeqS4pTa-g@...627...>

Ru,

You would use the same argument but in a new directory or delete the
current version in the current directory and re-run  $ svn checkout svn://
svn.code.sf.net/p/gambas/code/gambas/trunk

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Ru Vuott <vuott at ...325...> wrote:

> > If you don't know how to deal with svn conflicts, the simpler is
> > recreating a new local repository from scratch...with "svn checkout"!
>
> Excuse me,
>
> maybe i didn't understand... but " ~ $ svn checkout "  and with what
> arguments ?  :-(
>
> Regards
> vuott
>
>
>
>
>
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> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce.
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
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From jleake at ...3375...  Tue Sep 16 17:16:51 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:16:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5417F339.30000@...1...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>
	<5417F339.30000@...1...>
Message-ID: <54185463.9010900@...3375...>

Hi All,
I cannot see any change in back/fore colour change on any control.
Should this work OK ?

[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
Desktop=XFCE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=7863M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3

John Leake



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 16 17:24:07 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:24:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <54185463.9010900@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>
	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>
Message-ID: <54185617.8090606@...1...>

Le 16/09/2014 17:16, John Leake a ?crit :
> Hi All,
> I cannot see any change in back/fore colour change on any control.
> Should this work OK ?
>
> [System]
> Gambas=3.5.4
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
> Desktop=XFCE
> Theme=QGtk
> Language=en_GB.UTF-8
> Memory=7863M
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3
>
> John Leake
>

I'm talking about the development version.

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From jleake at ...3375...  Tue Sep 16 17:28:06 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:28:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <54185617.8090606@...1...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>
	<54185617.8090606@...1...>
Message-ID: <54185706.4020008@...3375...>

> 
> I'm talking about the development version.
> 
Sorry, no wonder you want to get it out quickly.
Will down load, build and report back.



From vuott at ...325...  Tue Sep 16 18:04:50 2014
From: vuott at ...325... (Ru Vuott)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:04:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Skipped 'trunk/comp/src/gb.report/.info' -- Node
	remains in conflict
In-Reply-To: <CAGwqEL4KVpRcvsP3s70aVOTk-AXx2MZQLH2M6hkexeqS4pTa-g@...627...>
Message-ID: <1410883490.73276.YahooMailBasic@...3275...>

Hello,

 > If you don't know how to deal with svn conflicts, the simpler is
 > recreating a new local repository from scratch...with "svn checkout"!


>You would use the same argument but in a new
> directory or delete the
> current version in
> the current directory and re-run  $ svn checkout svn://
> svn.code.sf.net/p/gambas/code/gambas/trunk


optime !

It works.

Thank you

vuott



From jleake at ...3375...  Tue Sep 16 19:47:10 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:47:10 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <54185706.4020008@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>
	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418779E.8000801@...3375...>

I followed the docs for v3
Compiling the Subversion repository.

I checked out trunk and did

$ ./reconf-all
...
$ ./configure -C

But there are lots of inaccessible header files.

Attached the config.log
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From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 19:57:22 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:57:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5418779E.8000801@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>
	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>
	<5417F339.30000@...1...>
	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>
	<54185617.8090606@...1...>
	<54185706.4020008@...3375...> <5418779E.8000801@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> I followed the docs for v3
> Compiling the Subversion repository.
> 
> I checked out trunk and did
> 
> $ ./reconf-all
> ...
> $ ./configure -C
> 
> But there are lots of inaccessible header files.
> 
> Attached the config.log

Did you see [0]? Your attachment doesn't look like what is requested there.
Inaccessible headers could mean that they don't exist which could mean that
you don't have the necessary dependencies[1]? Although I haven't seen that
this causes a fail at the configure stage...

Regards,
Tobi

[0] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/report#t3
[1] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install

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From jleake at ...3375...  Tue Sep 16 20:53:20 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:53:20 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>
	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...> <20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>
Message-ID: <54188720.5050500@...3375...>

Hi Tobi,

Thanks. A link to [0] in 'Compiling the Subversion repository' would
save you a bit of email noise.

[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
Desktop=XFCE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=7863M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3

I didn't run make because there is little or nothing to make with all
the unreachable/missing header files. By the way I get the same errors
with stable branch/3.5 so I it just looks like a build environment
problem considering this is a virgin build under this setup.

A bit more newbie experience to go into the melting pot.

Best regards,

John

P.S. I don't know why I keep going to the wrong place in the help.  Also
I have not gone through each of tools yet I just assumed that the reconf
and autoconf scripts would be the quickest way of finding any
incompatibility.
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From gambas at ...2524...  Tue Sep 16 21:02:20 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:02:20 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 558 in gambas: Gambas is missing a Radio
	Menu Item
In-Reply-To: <3-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <3-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <4-6813199134517018827-11459904907921477728-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>


Comment #4 on issue 558 by pata.kar... at ...626...: Gambas is missing a Radio  
Menu Item
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=558

Thanks, I'm looking forward to use it!

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From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 21:28:52 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:28:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <54188720.5050500@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>
	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>
	<5417F339.30000@...1...>
	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>
	<54185617.8090606@...1...>
	<54185706.4020008@...3375...> <5418779E.8000801@...3375...>
	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...> <54188720.5050500@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Hi Tobi,
> 
> Thanks. A link to [0] in 'Compiling the Subversion repository' would
> save you a bit of email noise.
> 

Sort of done.

> [System]
> Gambas=3.5.4
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
> Desktop=XFCE
> Theme=QGtk
> Language=en_GB.UTF-8
> Memory=7863M
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3
> 
> I didn't run make because there is little or nothing to make with all
> the unreachable/missing header files. By the way I get the same errors
> with stable branch/3.5 so I it just looks like a build environment
> problem considering this is a virgin build under this setup.
> 

Actually you built some critical parts of Gambas, without any error. You can
already use the interpreter per se. But you lack a good list of components.
Enough that you won't be able to compile the IDE...

See the list I linked in my last mail. Or even better (I guess?), since you
use Ubuntu, you may immediately have a look at: [2]. The guide was updated
last in Aug 2014. Probably it is still correct.

> A bit more newbie experience to go into the melting pot.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> John
> 
> P.S. I don't know why I keep going to the wrong place in the help.  Also
> I have not gone through each of tools yet I just assumed that the reconf
> and autoconf scripts would be the quickest way of finding any
> incompatibility.

I don't know what you mean by this. What do you look for in the help? What
tools do you mean?

[2] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/ubuntu

-- 
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From jleake at ...3375...  Tue Sep 16 22:52:27 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:52:27 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>
	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>
	<54188720.5050500@...3375...> <20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>
Message-ID: <5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>

>> P.S. I don't know why I keep going to the wrong place in the help.  Also
I usually use a web search engine with my problem which invariably
directs me to:
http://gambasdoc.org/help/doc/whatever
which so far has fallen short of giving me enough info to sort thing out
without pestering the mailing lists.
>> I have not gone through each of tools yet I just assumed that the reconf
>> and autoconf scripts would be the quickest way of finding any
>> incompatibility.
I mean I was lazy and ran the scripts before checking all the build tool
versions listed in [2]
> 
> I don't know what you mean by this. What do you look for in the help? What
> tools do you mean?
> 

> [2] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/ubuntu
> 
I had already installed 3.5.4 from that repo but have problems with
control foreground and background and some other hard to describe
behaviour when using Picture image with controls.

Beno?t said I should use the dev version which is why I am trying to
build trunk.

I must say I am a little thrown by the minor version number being so
significant.  Is it normal here for example that stable 3.5.4 has broken
features that are fixed in 3.5.90 ?

Many thanks for your help and I hope my build log gives you enough info
to fix building from trunk.

John

P.S. My installation of Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS is a pretty clean install
that is only about 4 weeks old on this machine.

One other thing, I am concerned with, is how much noise I am generating
and if I am going to be using daily builds might there be a danger of
generating unnecessary additional noise caused by partial commit side
effects ?



From jleake at ...3375...  Tue Sep 16 23:04:54 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:04:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>
	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...> <5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>

Back on topic re Subject.  If in the IDE you select a ToggleButton and
set its Foreground or Background colour and then later wish put either
back to its default (by selecting the control, then highlighting the
property and pressing delete) the control is deleted instead of the
property.



From jleake at ...3375...  Tue Sep 16 23:09:50 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:09:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>
	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...> <5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>

On 16/09/14 22:04, John Leake wrote:
> Back on topic re Subject.  If in the IDE you select a ToggleButton and
> set its Foreground or Background colour and then later wish put either
> back to its default (by selecting the control, then highlighting the
> property and pressing delete) the control is deleted instead of the
> property.

Same problem with Picture property.


[System]
Gambas=3.5.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
Desktop=XFCE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=7863M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.400.2
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 16 23:15:03 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:15:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>
	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...> <5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418A857.8000902@...1...>

Le 16/09/2014 23:09, John Leake a ?crit :
> On 16/09/14 22:04, John Leake wrote:
>> Back on topic re Subject.  If in the IDE you select a ToggleButton and
>> set its Foreground or Background colour and then later wish put either
>> back to its default (by selecting the control, then highlighting the
>> property and pressing delete) the control is deleted instead of the
>> property.
>
> Same problem with Picture property.
>

The "delete" key is the shortcut for deleting the control. Use the 
"backspace" key for voiding the property.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep 16 23:16:51 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:16:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>
References: <54185463.9010900@...3375...>
	<54185617.8090606@...1...>
	<54185706.4020008@...3375...> <5418779E.8000801@...3375...>
	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...> <54188720.5050500@...3375...>
	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...> <5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>
	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...> <5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140916211651.GE5614@...2774...>

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> On 16/09/14 22:04, John Leake wrote:
> > Back on topic re Subject.  If in the IDE you select a ToggleButton and
> > set its Foreground or Background colour and then later wish put either
> > back to its default (by selecting the control, then highlighting the
> > property and pressing delete) the control is deleted instead of the
> > property.
> 
> Same problem with Picture property.
> 

Use backspace.

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 00:02:42 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:02:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5418A857.8000902@...1...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>
	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>
	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>
Message-ID: <5418B382.8090603@...3375...>

> The "delete" key is the shortcut for deleting the control. Use the 
> "backspace" key for voiding the property.
Sorry guys this is inconsistent and unintuitive and will drive newbies
away for sure.

Where does it tell the user that this is so. If you double click the
text property it is highlighted and when you press delete the text is
deleted not the control.

If a user wants to delete the control they select the control (has the
focus, it is their last action and when they press delete then it
deletes the control).

If a user selects a control to access its properties and then double
clicks the property (the highlight gives then the visual feedback that
the highlighted text is going to receive the delete) but instead the
control vanishes.

Please, please this is not a criticism. I am a newbie to Gambas IDE. I
am gifted with newbie insight and will not be corrupted by
idiosyncrasies like this. You guys have been working with this for so
long you cannot see the problems that newbies will face.  It has become
second nature to you.

I will guarantee that all newbies would feel this way.

So what are we to do ?

I think you have climbed to great heights of achievement and I like the
overall architecture but I will not accept your response to this
fundamental point of usability and what's more I could not live with it.

If you are happy to guide me along as you have so far (and I thank you
for all of that) I am happy to find bugs in your code in return.  If you
do not accept my input as being a bug then that is your right and I am
fine with that.

I am in the process of importing the repo into git so that I can work
independently and you are welcome to clone it and explore what I have done.

Still friends ?

Best regards,

John Leake



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 00:22:50 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:22:50 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5418B382.8090603@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>
	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>

Hi guys,
ToolTip has the behaviour as Text property.



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 00:28:48 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:28:48 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
In-Reply-To: <5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>
	<5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418B9A0.2050303@...3375...>

Did you know that the image size tool button is no longer available in
3.5.90

[System]
Gambas=3.5.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
Desktop=XFCE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=7863M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.400.2
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3



From taboege at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 00:40:31 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 00:40:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5418B382.8090603@...3375...>
References: <54185706.4020008@...3375...> <5418779E.8000801@...3375...>
	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...> <54188720.5050500@...3375...>
	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...> <5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>
	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...> <5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>
	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>
	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140916224031.GF5614@...2774...>

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> > The "delete" key is the shortcut for deleting the control. Use the 
> > "backspace" key for voiding the property.
> Sorry guys this is inconsistent and unintuitive and will drive newbies
> away for sure.
> 
> Where does it tell the user that this is so. If you double click the
> text property it is highlighted and when you press delete the text is
> deleted not the control.
> 
> If a user wants to delete the control they select the control (has the
> focus, it is their last action and when they press delete then it
> deletes the control).
> 
> If a user selects a control to access its properties and then double
> clicks the property (the highlight gives then the visual feedback that
> the highlighted text is going to receive the delete) but instead the
> control vanishes.
> 
> Please, please this is not a criticism. I am a newbie to Gambas IDE. I
> am gifted with newbie insight and will not be corrupted by
> idiosyncrasies like this. You guys have been working with this for so
> long you cannot see the problems that newbies will face.  It has become
> second nature to you.
> 

Do I have to question my understanding of criticism? I really think this
is criticism and where I come from this is nothing bad. Especially if the
criticising person does it the conciliatory way :-)

> I will guarantee that all newbies would feel this way.
> 

That is a strong claim! No chance there is someone who does that twice and
just accepts the way it works now? Maybe they'll realise that this happens
only for input boxes which are read-only when time is right :-)

> So what are we to do ?
> 
> I think you have climbed to great heights of achievement and I like the
> overall architecture but I will not accept your response to this
> fundamental point of usability and what's more I could not live with it.
> 
> If you are happy to guide me along as you have so far (and I thank you
> for all of that) I am happy to find bugs in your code in return.  If you
> do not accept my input as being a bug then that is your right and I am
> fine with that.
> 
> I am in the process of importing the repo into git so that I can work
> independently and you are welcome to clone it and explore what I have done.
> 
> Still friends ?

I don't think there would be a problem on Benoit's side to grant you write
access to the svn repository. If that's a problem for *you*, I'm sad to say
that, if your changes are good, you kind of put people into the hassle of
seeing them through and importing them on their own. I can already see
myself looking at your tree once a day in that future which I know I won't
have time for...

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 00:45:32 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:45:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] form grab handles
In-Reply-To: <5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>
	<5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418BD8C.505@...3375...>

IDE - form design.
Are the form grab handles supposed to be visible/active when a control
is clicked ?



From taboege at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 01:37:58 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:37:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Thread view broken
Message-ID: <20140916233757.GG5614@...2774...>

Hi people,

as of recently there were more mails than usual which broke the thread view
of which some mail clients are capable and which some of us like very much.

On the one side, there are mails which start a new topic (judging from their
content), but belong to an already existing thread. This happens when the
sender replies to a message in an (unrelated) thread instead of creating an
entirely new message. There is a screenshot showing multiple of these
instances.

On the other side, there are some mails which drop out of a thread for no
apparent reason. My mail client uses the In-Reply-To and References headers
to do its thread thing and I think this is the popular way. From those who
write regularly, I see Ru Vuott doing this from time to time and PICCORO
McKAY Lenz all the time. Maybe your mail clients have a blackout sometimes?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to be the "mail police". It's not too
much traffic for me to relink the wrong mails once in a time. But if the
mails would arrive correct, that would be great!

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 17 01:46:25 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:46:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
In-Reply-To: <5418B9A0.2050303@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>	<5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>
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Le 17/09/2014 00:28, John Leake a ?crit :
> Did you know that the image size tool button is no longer available in
> 3.5.90
>

No idea what you are talking about, but please start a new thread when 
the subject changes!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 17 01:47:19 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:47:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] form grab handles
In-Reply-To: <5418BD8C.505@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>	<5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>
	<5418BD8C.505@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418CC07.1080506@...1...>

Le 17/09/2014 00:45, John Leake a ?crit :
> IDE - form design.
> Are the form grab handles supposed to be visible/active when a control
> is clicked ?
>

Why not?

Please start a new thread when you want to talk about another subject! 
Thanks.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 17 01:49:28 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:49:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>
	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...> <5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418CC88.30404@...1...>

Le 16/09/2014 23:04, John Leake a ?crit :
> Back on topic re Subject.  If in the IDE you select a ToggleButton and
> set its Foreground or Background colour and then later wish put either
> back to its default (by selecting the control, then highlighting the
> property and pressing delete) the control is deleted instead of the
> property.
>

I changed the "delete" shortcut from DEL to SHIFT+DEL, so that we don't 
delete controls by accident anymore.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 02:19:26 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:19:26 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <20140916224031.GF5614@...2774...>
References: <54185706.4020008@...3375...>
	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>
	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>
	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>
	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>
	<20140916224031.GF5614@...2774...>
Message-ID: <5418D38E.1080307@...3375...>

> Do I have to question my understanding of criticism? I really think this
> is criticism and where I come from this is nothing bad. Especially if the
> criticising person does it the conciliatory way :-)
Thank you.  Here, many will take their bat home if an outsider expresses
an alternative view to those that have invested an enormous amount of
time and effort in nurturing their baby.

Also I know there is a huge potential for generating negative semantic
friction when there are language barriers. I bow down to all that are
bilingual/multilingual. I am only multilingual in the computer language
domain and I am too old to make up for that deficiency now.
> 
>> I will guarantee that all newbies would feel this way.
>>
> 
> That is a strong claim! No chance there is someone who does that twice and
> just accepts the way it works now? Maybe they'll realise that this happens
> only for input boxes which are read-only when time is right :-)
> 
Yes I understand your point of view and I am sure that many will but I
think that many more will not. The young and nimble are like sponges to
new ideas. It is my observation in life that the more intelligent one is
then the less likely they are able to see the obvious (that was a
compliment by the way). Others who are old (and have to switch between
many IDE's/languages and wrestle with all sorts of quirks) see it as an
unnecessary pain. I am 100% confident users that are not computer
language geeks but know that double clicking on some text means that it
is highlighted and what they do next will replace that highlighted text.

>> So what are we to do ?
>>
>> I think you have climbed to great heights of achievement and I like the
>> overall architecture but I will not accept your response to this
>> fundamental point of usability and what's more I could not live with it.
>>
>> If you are happy to guide me along as you have so far (and I thank you
>> for all of that) I am happy to find bugs in your code in return.  If you
>> do not accept my input as being a bug then that is your right and I am
>> fine with that.
>>
>> I am in the process of importing the repo into git so that I can work
>> independently and you are welcome to clone it and explore what I have done.
>>
>> Still friends ?
> 
> I don't think there would be a problem on Benoit's side to grant you write
> access to the svn repository. If that's a problem for *you*, I'm sad to say
> that, if your changes are good, you kind of put people into the hassle of
> seeing them through and importing them on their own. I can already see
> myself looking at your tree once a day in that future which I know I won't
> have time for...
Thank you but I have done SVN and it really is cumbersome when it comes
to merging. As a result it does not fit very well with open source
projects. Git is tricky to get your head around and I am no expert by
any means.

SVN with a Trac web interface was my choice also as technical director
in my own business however when you use Git there is zero fear
associated with allowing any number of strangers (with wildly differing
abilities and views) to interact and share ideas. Mecurial is an
alternative if M$ has any significance.  Check out Linus and form your
own opinionS (2007!).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8

As for once a day, I should be so lucky as to have something interesting
to look at.

Just treat it as a branch that is hard to merge, not a backward step as
I see it. If your community were to consider a switch then there are
some good transitional examples that ran live right throughout the whole
migration process. I will certainly make public my experiences.

Hey it might just be too much for me an I will just wither away.

Things should not be a hassle if you are importing perceived improvements.

Should I call it Gambas-for-ideots ?

I hope to continue the collaboration.

Best regards,

John Leake











From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 02:22:22 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:22:22 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] form grab handles
In-Reply-To: <5418CC07.1080506@...1...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>	<5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>	<5418BD8C.505@...3375...>
	<5418CC07.1080506@...1...>
Message-ID: <5418D43E.9060909@...3375...>

>> IDE - form design.
>> Are the form grab handles supposed to be visible/active when a control
>> is clicked ?
>>
> 
> Why not?
> 
> Please start a new thread when you want to talk about another subject! 
> Thanks.

Sorry, I changed the email subject.  What else should I do ?




From t.lee.davidson at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 02:29:02 2014
From: t.lee.davidson at ...626... (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:29:02 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] form grab handles
In-Reply-To: <5418D43E.9060909@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>	<5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>	<5418BD8C.505@...3375...>	<5418CC07.1080506@...1...>
	<5418D43E.9060909@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418D5CE.704@...626...>

Create a *new* message instead of simply replying to a message from a 
thread that already exists. Creating a new message will create a new thread.


On 09/16/2014 08:22 PM, John Leake wrote:
>>> IDE - form design.
>>> Are the form grab handles supposed to be visible/active when a control
>>> is clicked ?
>>>
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>> Please start a new thread when you want to talk about another subject!
>> Thanks.
>
> Sorry, I changed the email subject.  What else should I do ?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 02:32:45 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:32:45 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
In-Reply-To: <5418CBD1.8050908@...1...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>	<5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>	<5418B9A0.2050303@...3375...>
	<5418CBD1.8050908@...1...>
Message-ID: <5418D6AD.7000202@...3375...>

> Le 17/09/2014 00:28, John Leake a ?crit :
>> Did you know that the image size tool button is no longer available in
>> 3.5.90
>>
> 
> No idea what you are talking about, but please start a new thread when 
> the subject changes!
> 
Sorry the context is in the Subject.

I must have a misunderstanding how message threads are handled.

I posted a little while ago on gambas-user about this difficulty I have
with the source forge way of handling message threads:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi All,

I find myself having to do the following to post a message onto this list:

1) Search the web for 'Gambas user mailing list' or 'Gambas developer
mailing list'.
2) Go to here
https://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/gambas-user/?viewmonth=200710
3) Click on You can subscribe to this list here. which launches
Thunderbird with the wrong From e-mail address.
4) Select the correct 'From' e-mail address (I have 10 at the moment).
5) Mess with the settings of Thunderbird because for some reason they
are different from those I get if I launch Thunderbird myself (line
wrap, fonts etc)  rather than what happens when I click here.
6) Compose & send.

Responding to a thread
-------------------------------
When someone responds to my post and I receive an email why can I not
just click 'Reply' with out having to go through steps 1 to 5 above ?

If I click reply the message goes to the personal email address of the
respondent and not the mailing list !

Best regards,
John Leake
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Any suggestions ?



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 02:36:02 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:36:02 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] form grab handles
In-Reply-To: <5418D5CE.704@...626...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>	<5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>	<5418BD8C.505@...3375...>	<5418CC07.1080506@...1...>	<5418D43E.9060909@...3375...>
	<5418D5CE.704@...626...>
Message-ID: <5418D772.90001@...3375...>

Create a *new* message instead of simply replying to a message from a
thread that already exists. Creating a new message will create a new thread.

Thank you. I have just elucidated my difficulty with this.
Where do I create a *new* message ?



From t.lee.davidson at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 02:46:28 2014
From: t.lee.davidson at ...626... (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:46:28 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to create a new thread
Message-ID: <5418D9E4.3080100@...626...>

You're using Thunderbird, right?

In the header section of the message you should see the "To" field. 
Hovering over that should show "gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net"

Right click on that and choose "Compose message to"

HTH,
Lee


On 09/16/2014 08:36 PM, John Leake wrote:
> Create a *new* message instead of simply replying to a message from a
> thread that already exists. Creating a new message will create a new thread.
>
> Thank you. I have just elucidated my difficulty with this.
> Where do I create a *new* message ?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 02:49:05 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:49:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
In-Reply-To: <5418D6AD.7000202@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>	<5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>	<5418B9A0.2050303@...3375...>	<5418CBD1.8050908@...1...>
	<5418D6AD.7000202@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418DA81.2020805@...3375...>

When editing an image in the IDE under 3.5.4 there was an image size
tool bar button.

It is no longer there under 3.5.90



From t.lee.davidson at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 02:54:36 2014
From: t.lee.davidson at ...626... (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:54:36 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Responding to a thread
Message-ID: <5418DBCC.8010601@...626...>

Not sure, John.

In the header section, I have a "Reply" and a "Reply List" button. Using 
either one sends the message to the list address.

There is also "Reply to List" in the Message menu.


On 09/16/2014 08:32 PM, John Leake wrote:
> Responding to a thread
> -------------------------------
> When someone responds to my post and I receive an email why can I not
> just click 'Reply' with out having to go through steps 1 to 5 above ?
>
> If I click reply the message goes to the personal email address of the
> respondent and not the mailing list !
>
> Best regards,
> John Leake




From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 03:00:31 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 02:00:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to create a new thread
In-Reply-To: <5418D9E4.3080100@...626...>
References: <5418D9E4.3080100@...626...>
Message-ID: <5418DD2F.8000807@...3375...>

Thank you.

On 17/09/14 01:46, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> You're using Thunderbird, right?
> 
> In the header section of the message you should see the "To" field. 
> Hovering over that should show "gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net"
> 
> Right click on that and choose "Compose message to"
> 
> HTH,
> Lee
> 
> 
> On 09/16/2014 08:36 PM, John Leake wrote:
>> Create a *new* message instead of simply replying to a message from a
>> thread that already exists. Creating a new message will create a new thread.
>>
>> Thank you. I have just elucidated my difficulty with this.
>> Where do I create a *new* message ?
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Want excitement?
>> Manually upgrade your production database.
>> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
>> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 03:16:43 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 02:16:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Responding to a thread
In-Reply-To: <5418DBCC.8010601@...626...>
References: <5418DBCC.8010601@...626...>
Message-ID: <5418E0FB.1000203@...3375...>

Yes, same here.  The hover tool tip shows 'Reply to Sender' for the
Reply button and the Reply to list button tool tip shows Reply to List
however both put the list email adr in the To: field when composing a reply.

I?ve been told off by the boss over this early on but I cannot see the
difference.

So if a message is composed from scratch it will start a new thread
irrespective from what is in the subject field.

On 17/09/14 01:54, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> Not sure, John.
> 
> In the header section, I have a "Reply" and a "Reply List" button. Using 
> either one sends the message to the list address.
> 
> There is also "Reply to List" in the Message menu.
> 
> 
> On 09/16/2014 08:32 PM, John Leake wrote:
>> Responding to a thread
>> -------------------------------
>> When someone responds to my post and I receive an email why can I not
>> just click 'Reply' with out having to go through steps 1 to 5 above ?
>>
>> If I click reply the message goes to the personal email address of the
>> respondent and not the mailing list !
>>
>> Best regards,
>> John Leake
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 03:19:08 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 04:19:08 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5418D38E.1080307@...3375...>
References: <54185706.4020008@...3375...> <5418779E.8000801@...3375...>
	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...> <54188720.5050500@...3375...>
	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...> <5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>
	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...> <5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>
	<5418A857.8000902@...1...> <5418B382.8090603@...3375...>
	<20140916224031.GF5614@...2774...> <5418D38E.1080307@...3375...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7R4WvjabuwMO_bQ42joTJ6oB9d-6O_Eb5ksPGFn14O3fA@...627...>

With svn you just checkout, edit the source if you want, and then compile.
But with git, it requires something very different...
git clone <the address>
git checkout pristine-tar
git checkout upstream
git checkout master
git-buildpackage -us -uc

I don't know what those commands do, but they were advised and obviously
required (intuitive tryouts failed). Applying or creating patch was even
more mystical, and I never learned how to do it so that it would work
consistently. You couldn't even compile locally edited sources without some
mystical commands (why??). Also simply updating the sources failed several
times, and every time I had to rm the source folder and "checkout" again to
solve the mess.

I don't know the reason for the whole mess, but I guess part of it was from
the badly managed git repository. However, I have never seen such problems
with svn. And yes, I believe that git has powerful features and certainly
you can learn to use it, but is it really worth it? Couldn't these, at
least essentially, same features be implemented with intuitive interface?
There are a lot of alternatives.



Jussi


On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:19 AM, John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:

> > Do I have to question my understanding of criticism? I really think this
> > is criticism and where I come from this is nothing bad. Especially if the
> > criticising person does it the conciliatory way :-)
> Thank you.  Here, many will take their bat home if an outsider expresses
> an alternative view to those that have invested an enormous amount of
> time and effort in nurturing their baby.
>
> Also I know there is a huge potential for generating negative semantic
> friction when there are language barriers. I bow down to all that are
> bilingual/multilingual. I am only multilingual in the computer language
> domain and I am too old to make up for that deficiency now.
> >
> >> I will guarantee that all newbies would feel this way.
> >>
> >
> > That is a strong claim! No chance there is someone who does that twice
> and
> > just accepts the way it works now? Maybe they'll realise that this
> happens
> > only for input boxes which are read-only when time is right :-)
> >
> Yes I understand your point of view and I am sure that many will but I
> think that many more will not. The young and nimble are like sponges to
> new ideas. It is my observation in life that the more intelligent one is
> then the less likely they are able to see the obvious (that was a
> compliment by the way). Others who are old (and have to switch between
> many IDE's/languages and wrestle with all sorts of quirks) see it as an
> unnecessary pain. I am 100% confident users that are not computer
> language geeks but know that double clicking on some text means that it
> is highlighted and what they do next will replace that highlighted text.
>
> >> So what are we to do ?
> >>
> >> I think you have climbed to great heights of achievement and I like the
> >> overall architecture but I will not accept your response to this
> >> fundamental point of usability and what's more I could not live with it.
> >>
> >> If you are happy to guide me along as you have so far (and I thank you
> >> for all of that) I am happy to find bugs in your code in return.  If you
> >> do not accept my input as being a bug then that is your right and I am
> >> fine with that.
> >>
> >> I am in the process of importing the repo into git so that I can work
> >> independently and you are welcome to clone it and explore what I have
> done.
> >>
> >> Still friends ?
> >
> > I don't think there would be a problem on Benoit's side to grant you
> write
> > access to the svn repository. If that's a problem for *you*, I'm sad to
> say
> > that, if your changes are good, you kind of put people into the hassle of
> > seeing them through and importing them on their own. I can already see
> > myself looking at your tree once a day in that future which I know I
> won't
> > have time for...
> Thank you but I have done SVN and it really is cumbersome when it comes
> to merging. As a result it does not fit very well with open source
> projects. Git is tricky to get your head around and I am no expert by
> any means.
>
> SVN with a Trac web interface was my choice also as technical director
> in my own business however when you use Git there is zero fear
> associated with allowing any number of strangers (with wildly differing
> abilities and views) to interact and share ideas. Mecurial is an
> alternative if M$ has any significance.  Check out Linus and form your
> own opinionS (2007!).
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8
>
> As for once a day, I should be so lucky as to have something interesting
> to look at.
>
> Just treat it as a branch that is hard to merge, not a backward step as
> I see it. If your community were to consider a switch then there are
> some good transitional examples that ran live right throughout the whole
> migration process. I will certainly make public my experiences.
>
> Hey it might just be too much for me an I will just wither away.
>
> Things should not be a hassle if you are importing perceived improvements.
>
> Should I call it Gambas-for-ideots ?
>
> I hope to continue the collaboration.
>
> Best regards,
>
> John Leake
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 17 03:37:29 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 03:37:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
In-Reply-To: <5418DA81.2020805@...3375...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>	<5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>	<5418B9A0.2050303@...3375...>	<5418CBD1.8050908@...1...>	<5418D6AD.7000202@...3375...>
	<5418DA81.2020805@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5418E5D9.4070905@...1...>

Le 17/09/2014 02:49, John Leake a ?crit :
> When editing an image in the IDE under 3.5.4 there was an image size
> tool bar button.
>
> It is no longer there under 3.5.90
>

OK, I see! You can add it back by configuring the toolbar. To configure 
a toolbar, click with the right mouse button on it.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 03:48:55 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 02:48:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7R4WvjabuwMO_bQ42joTJ6oB9d-6O_Eb5ksPGFn14O3fA@...627...>
References: <54185706.4020008@...3375...>
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	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>
	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>
	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>
	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>	<20140916224031.GF5614@...2774...>
	<5418D38E.1080307@...3375...>
	<CAFJMe7R4WvjabuwMO_bQ42joTJ6oB9d-6O_Eb5ksPGFn14O3fA@...627...>
Message-ID: <5418E887.4000901@...3375...>

Hi Jussi,
I hope I have clicked the right reply button.

I do not recognise the work flow you have annotated.  I think there are
many approaches that fit particular needs. Staging/non staging etc.

The most significant features are:-
1) SVN will not detect a corruption - with Git the sha1 hash will
confirm that your source is unadulterated no matter who you pull it from.
2) With SVN, all your eggs are in one basket - Linus does not (or need
to) back up the linux kernel because everyone has a copy.
3) With Git branching and merging are really cheap and hence very fast -
SVN fosters long periods of lone worker activity (during which there is
no source code control) simply because merging is difficult and you do
not want to commit half baked fixes because of the repercussions to
other users by forcing more merges on them.
4) With Git you can work on the source without having a connection to
the server and still remain protected by source control.

But hey I am a long long way from being an expert watch the 2007 video
if you have an inclination and an hour to spend.

To me it works best through a good Gui client or when it is part of your
IDE (I am used to Jetbrains).  But if you are a command-line junkie then
fill your boots.

On 17/09/14 02:19, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> With svn you just checkout, edit the source if you want, and then compile.
> But with git, it requires something very different...
> git clone <the address>
> git checkout pristine-tar
> git checkout upstream
> git checkout master
> git-buildpackage -us -uc
> 
> I don't know what those commands do, but they were advised and obviously
> required (intuitive tryouts failed). Applying or creating patch was even
> more mystical, and I never learned how to do it so that it would work
> consistently. You couldn't even compile locally edited sources without some
> mystical commands (why??). Also simply updating the sources failed several
> times, and every time I had to rm the source folder and "checkout" again to
> solve the mess.
> 
> I don't know the reason for the whole mess, but I guess part of it was from
> the badly managed git repository. However, I have never seen such problems
> with svn. And yes, I believe that git has powerful features and certainly
> you can learn to use it, but is it really worth it? Couldn't these, at
> least essentially, same features be implemented with intuitive interface?
> There are a lot of alternatives.
> 
> 
> 
> Jussi
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:19 AM, John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:
> 
>>> Do I have to question my understanding of criticism? I really think this
>>> is criticism and where I come from this is nothing bad. Especially if the
>>> criticising person does it the conciliatory way :-)
>> Thank you.  Here, many will take their bat home if an outsider expresses
>> an alternative view to those that have invested an enormous amount of
>> time and effort in nurturing their baby.
>>
>> Also I know there is a huge potential for generating negative semantic
>> friction when there are language barriers. I bow down to all that are
>> bilingual/multilingual. I am only multilingual in the computer language
>> domain and I am too old to make up for that deficiency now.
>>>
>>>> I will guarantee that all newbies would feel this way.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is a strong claim! No chance there is someone who does that twice
>> and
>>> just accepts the way it works now? Maybe they'll realise that this
>> happens
>>> only for input boxes which are read-only when time is right :-)
>>>
>> Yes I understand your point of view and I am sure that many will but I
>> think that many more will not. The young and nimble are like sponges to
>> new ideas. It is my observation in life that the more intelligent one is
>> then the less likely they are able to see the obvious (that was a
>> compliment by the way). Others who are old (and have to switch between
>> many IDE's/languages and wrestle with all sorts of quirks) see it as an
>> unnecessary pain. I am 100% confident users that are not computer
>> language geeks but know that double clicking on some text means that it
>> is highlighted and what they do next will replace that highlighted text.
>>
>>>> So what are we to do ?
>>>>
>>>> I think you have climbed to great heights of achievement and I like the
>>>> overall architecture but I will not accept your response to this
>>>> fundamental point of usability and what's more I could not live with it.
>>>>
>>>> If you are happy to guide me along as you have so far (and I thank you
>>>> for all of that) I am happy to find bugs in your code in return.  If you
>>>> do not accept my input as being a bug then that is your right and I am
>>>> fine with that.
>>>>
>>>> I am in the process of importing the repo into git so that I can work
>>>> independently and you are welcome to clone it and explore what I have
>> done.
>>>>
>>>> Still friends ?
>>>
>>> I don't think there would be a problem on Benoit's side to grant you
>> write
>>> access to the svn repository. If that's a problem for *you*, I'm sad to
>> say
>>> that, if your changes are good, you kind of put people into the hassle of
>>> seeing them through and importing them on their own. I can already see
>>> myself looking at your tree once a day in that future which I know I
>> won't
>>> have time for...
>> Thank you but I have done SVN and it really is cumbersome when it comes
>> to merging. As a result it does not fit very well with open source
>> projects. Git is tricky to get your head around and I am no expert by
>> any means.
>>
>> SVN with a Trac web interface was my choice also as technical director
>> in my own business however when you use Git there is zero fear
>> associated with allowing any number of strangers (with wildly differing
>> abilities and views) to interact and share ideas. Mecurial is an
>> alternative if M$ has any significance.  Check out Linus and form your
>> own opinionS (2007!).
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8
>>
>> As for once a day, I should be so lucky as to have something interesting
>> to look at.
>>
>> Just treat it as a branch that is hard to merge, not a backward step as
>> I see it. If your community were to consider a switch then there are
>> some good transitional examples that ran live right throughout the whole
>> migration process. I will certainly make public my experiences.
>>
>> Hey it might just be too much for me an I will just wither away.
>>
>> Things should not be a hassle if you are importing perceived improvements.
>>
>> Should I call it Gambas-for-ideots ?
>>
>> I hope to continue the collaboration.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> John Leake
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Want excitement?
>> Manually upgrade your production database.
>> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
>> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>>
>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 03:51:42 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 02:51:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
In-Reply-To: <5418E5D9.4070905@...1...>
References: <54177B2D.2000603@...1...>	<5417CFA7.3000709@...3375...>	<5417F339.30000@...1...>	<54185463.9010900@...3375...>	<54185617.8090606@...1...>	<54185706.4020008@...3375...>	<5418779E.8000801@...3375...>	<20140916175722.GC5614@...2774...>	<54188720.5050500@...3375...>	<20140916192852.GD5614@...2774...>	<5418A30B.1040104@...3375...>	<5418A5F6.3090606@...3375...>	<5418A71E.2090901@...3375...>	<5418A857.8000902@...1...>	<5418B382.8090603@...3375...>	<5418B83A.9040505@...3375...>	<5418B9A0.2050303@...3375...>	<5418CBD1.8050908@...1...>	<5418D6AD.7000202@...3375...>	<5418DA81.2020805@...3375...>
	<5418E5D9.4070905@...1...>
Message-ID: <5418E92E.9090705@...3375...>

Sorry, more ignorance on my part.  Its no wonder all you gambas gurus
have no idea what I am talking about!

On 17/09/14 02:37, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 17/09/2014 02:49, John Leake a ?crit :
>> When editing an image in the IDE under 3.5.4 there was an image size
>> tool bar button.
>>
>> It is no longer there under 3.5.90
>>
> 
> OK, I see! You can add it back by configuring the toolbar. To configure 
> a toolbar, click with the right mouse button on it.
> 
> Regards,
> 



From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 04:26:59 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:26:59 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Hot to get Class Name of Object
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL6ALxePrtw2cop_YN1dxyUDQhx1Wh+tG24HOuJ+9uSHZQ@...627...>

Hi All,

This may be answered else where but I was unable to locate an answer using
google.

I need to be able to query an object for it's class name. I have an object
that gets passed an owner object then, the owner is changed to a new object
of a different class (think fire balls being tossed a enemy subjects). I
need to know if the object is owned by the player or the enemy. This way I
can change it's state appropriately.

Thanks in advance for the helpful replies.


Randall

-- 
If you ask me if it can be done. The answer is YES, it can always be done.
The correct questions however are... What will it cost, and how long will
it take?


From taboege at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 04:29:43 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 04:29:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Hot to get Class Name of Object
In-Reply-To: <CAGwqEL6ALxePrtw2cop_YN1dxyUDQhx1Wh+tG24HOuJ+9uSHZQ@...627...>
References: <CAGwqEL6ALxePrtw2cop_YN1dxyUDQhx1Wh+tG24HOuJ+9uSHZQ@...627...>
Message-ID: <20140917022943.GH5614@...2774...>

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Randall Morgan wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> This may be answered else where but I was unable to locate an answer using
> google.
> 
> I need to be able to query an object for it's class name. I have an object
> that gets passed an owner object then, the owner is changed to a new object
> of a different class (think fire balls being tossed a enemy subjects). I
> need to know if the object is owned by the player or the enemy. This way I
> can change it's state appropriately.
> 
> Thanks in advance for the helpful replies.
> 

Object.Class(yourObject).Name.

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 04:48:48 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:48:48 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Hot to get Class Name of Object
In-Reply-To: <20140917022943.GH5614@...2774...>
References: <CAGwqEL6ALxePrtw2cop_YN1dxyUDQhx1Wh+tG24HOuJ+9uSHZQ@...627...>
	<20140917022943.GH5614@...2774...>
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL79nWWVUFUo37Lkywg=q0dzGWyPS2iOBQLyKa86-3t84w@...627...>

Thanks Tobi

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Tobias Boege <taboege at ...626...> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Randall Morgan wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > This may be answered else where but I was unable to locate an answer
> using
> > google.
> >
> > I need to be able to query an object for it's class name. I have an
> object
> > that gets passed an owner object then, the owner is changed to a new
> object
> > of a different class (think fire balls being tossed a enemy subjects). I
> > need to know if the object is owned by the player or the enemy. This way
> I
> > can change it's state appropriately.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for the helpful replies.
> >
>
> Object.Class(yourObject).Name.
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>
> --
> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
If you ask me if it can be done. The answer is YES, it can always be done.
The correct questions however are... What will it cost, and how long will
it take?


From t.lee.davidson at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 05:47:55 2014
From: t.lee.davidson at ...626... (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:47:55 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Responding to a thread
In-Reply-To: <5418E0FB.1000203@...3375...>
References: <5418DBCC.8010601@...626...> <5418E0FB.1000203@...3375...>
Message-ID: <5419046B.3060609@...626...>


On 09/16/2014 09:16 PM, John Leake wrote:
> Yes, same here.  The hover tool tip shows 'Reply to Sender' for the
> Reply button and the Reply to list button tool tip shows Reply to List
> however both put the list email adr in the To: field when composing a reply.
>
> I?ve been told off by the boss over this early on but I cannot see the
> difference.

If by, "the boss", you mean Beno?t, then I don't think you were 
actually, "told off." It was probably more like he was merely honoring 
another list user's plea for the preservation of thread integrity.


> So if a message is composed from scratch it will start a new thread
> irrespective from what is in the subject field.

To my knowledge, it is the "In reply to" field in the message header 
that keeps track of message threading. Whether or not the list 
management software takes into account the subject text, I do not know, 
but I doubt it. Your statement is likely entirely correct.


HTH,
Lee


> On 17/09/14 01:54, T Lee Davidson wrote:
>> Not sure, John.
>>
>> In the header section, I have a "Reply" and a "Reply List" button. Using
>> either one sends the message to the list address.
>>
>> There is also "Reply to List" in the Message menu.
>>
>>
>> On 09/16/2014 08:32 PM, John Leake wrote:
>>> Responding to a thread
>>> -------------------------------
>>> When someone responds to my post and I receive an email why can I not
>>> just click 'Reply' with out having to go through steps 1 to 5 above ?
>>>
>>> If I click reply the message goes to the personal email address of the
>>> respondent and not the mailing list !
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> John Leake
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Want excitement?
>> Manually upgrade your production database.
>> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
>> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



From chrisml at ...3340...  Wed Sep 17 07:36:30 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:36:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
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Am 17.09.2014 um 02:32 schrieb John Leake:

> I posted a little while ago on gambas-user about this difficulty I have
> with the source forge way of handling message threads:-

You are a mailinglist-hacker, look at the screenshot, what your mail
created in my thunderbird. Funny :-)

Maybe you should read somewhere something about how to post in and use
mailinglists. Maybe especially together with thunderbird and it's
threading model.

Maybe that's useful for you:

> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From chrisml at ...3340...  Wed Sep 17 07:52:14 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:52:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
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Am 17.09.2014 um 03:19 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:

> git checkout pristine-tar
> git checkout upstream
> git checkout master

Thats silly. git checkout just changes branches. In this example you
switch between three branches and do nothing.

BTW. Git is phantastic. I was coming from CVS to SVN and half a year ago
I switched over to Git with all my repos.

Never could be happier.

Now just for testing a new feature I create a new branch. And if it is
ok I merge the code from that branch back to the code I'm workin on.

I have a master branch, a working branch for next release and lots of
testing branches ...

It's so easy ...

But you have to learn and understand the different concept of git and
especially it's concept of branching, merging and the "stage area".

But if you're done with that, your productivity increases dramatically.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Wed Sep 17 09:02:24 2014
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:02:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] ...And what is planned for Gambas 3.7
In-Reply-To: <CAGwqEL5-zkTJwO4mNznhuZWRr0NUk-R90NrwO3y3+QPbL3_rXA@...627...>
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I agree. At least it should be possible to hold the help files locally 
in case there is no (regular) internet access. Can't the IDE decide 
where to load them from? IF internet access THEN download ELSE locally...

Rolf


Am 16.09.2014 10:55, schrieb Randall Morgan:
> I would allow the user to chose during installation if basic help files and
> basic example files were to be downloaded locally. But let the user know
> that there are more available online. That way those like myself who often
> travel to where there is no internet can decide what they need to take with
> them.
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:46 AM, rolf <rolf.frogs at ...221...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Beno?t
>>
>>> For the next version, I'd like to implement a Gambas dedicated software
>>> repository.
>> It sounds good
>>
>>> 1) The Gambas repository is an http web service, but without website at
>>> the moment. It will allow to:
>>> - upload software.
>>> - search for software.
>>> - download software.
>>>
>>> 2) A software is a compiled Gambas project, with eventually the source
>>> project. Nothing more.
>>>
>>> 3) In the IDE, I will add a dialog to upload your project.
>>>
>>> 4) Uploading a project requires:
>>> - a login and a password, so you should be able to create an account
>>> from the IDE.
>>> - a project name.
>>> - a project description.
>>> - a project icon.
>>> - a project screenshot (optional).
>>> - a project major version.
>>> - tags. Some tags will be automatic (for example the component used by
>>> the project), some will be predefined.
>>> - a project control sum (MD5/SHA...).
>>>
>>> 5) I will made an external Gambas program to:
>>> - Search for projects inside the repository.
>>> - Download and install a project somewhere in the user home directory.
>>>
>>> 6) That program should be able to know how to install the needed gambas
>>> binary packages according to the system distribution. If it is not
>>> possible, it should at least warn the user about missing components.
>>>
>>> 7) A Gambas program may depend on other programs in the repository. That
>>> way libraries will be able to be put in the repository too.
>>>
>>> 8) Gambas examples will be moved from the source tree to the repository.
>> That is not a good idea in my opinion, because one cannot start
>> programming or
>> look at examples without an internet connection. A set of basic examples
>> should still be installed locally, when install gambas.
>>
>> Just my 2 ct.
>> Rolf
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Want excitement?
>> Manually upgrade your production database.
>> When you want reliability, choose Perforce.
>> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>>
>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
>
>
>



From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 09:37:28 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:37:28 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
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Hey that looks cool.  Thank you.  You can certainly get someons
attention with a few >>>>>>>>>>



From chrisml at ...3340...  Wed Sep 17 09:57:36 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:57:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
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Am 17.09.2014 um 09:37 schrieb John Leake:
> Hey that looks cool.  Thank you.  You can certainly get someons
> attention with a few >>>>>>>>>>

No that is'nt cool. It's a failure. This occurs only in Thunderbird, not
other MUAs.

And it's very difficult to follow the threads you want to start just by
changing the subject on an answer. You're creating different topics
within one thread, you're creating spaghetti-threads. Look at this
screenshot.

Please learn how to post in mailinglists. I gave you the right advice.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 11:26:39 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:26:39 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
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I was joking. It is ignorance on my part and I have written about my
concerns wrt generating unnecessary noise.  If only people would say
from the start something like;
'Did you know these threads are hard to follow, can I help you do it right'.



From chrisml at ...3340...  Wed Sep 17 13:26:08 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:26:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
In-Reply-To: <541953CF.9010808@...3375...> (sfid-)
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Am 17.09.2014 um 11:26 schrieb John Leake:
> I was joking. It is ignorance on my part and I have written about my
> concerns wrt generating unnecessary noise.  If only people would say
> from the start something like;
> 'Did you know these threads are hard to follow, can I help you do it right'.

Ok, sorry, did not want to annoy you. If you have questions about
mailinglists etc. feel free to write me personally (not by answering to
this mail, but instead write a message to my mailaddress).


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 13:55:49 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 04:55:49 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki Update
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL7bHVDBEtSEbBQUxDyHP8=JMp8kb_W-b-ZkozOQy5BTVQ@...627...>

A colleague pointed out to me that the wiki does not specify is Gambas
arrays are Zero or One based index. I told him zero based. However, I
though the wiki maintainer might want to add that to the wiki page for
arrays.

-- 
If you ask me if it can be done. The answer is YES, it can always be done.
The correct questions however are... What will it cost, and how long will
it take?


From taboege at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 14:15:33 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:15:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki Update
In-Reply-To: <CAGwqEL7bHVDBEtSEbBQUxDyHP8=JMp8kb_W-b-ZkozOQy5BTVQ@...627...>
References: <CAGwqEL7bHVDBEtSEbBQUxDyHP8=JMp8kb_W-b-ZkozOQy5BTVQ@...627...>
Message-ID: <20140917121533.GC1120@...2774...>

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Randall Morgan wrote:
> A colleague pointed out to me that the wiki does not specify is Gambas
> arrays are Zero or One based index. I told him zero based. However, I
> though the wiki maintainer might want to add that to the wiki page for
> arrays.
> 

Which do you mean? There are Boolean[], String[], etc. (the native arrays)
under /comp/gb/, where the Array class plays a special role. We have array
pages under /lang/, too.

The problem is that you can only say that the native array classes in
the gb component have zero-based indices. Putting this note into the
documentation of the Array class wouldn't be quite correct as each class
may decide upon their indexing on their own. You can even index by using
Floats or Objects.

Maybe we should add that sentence to every native array page...?

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 14:22:35 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 05:22:35 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki Update
In-Reply-To: <20140917121533.GC1120@...2774...>
References: <CAGwqEL7bHVDBEtSEbBQUxDyHP8=JMp8kb_W-b-ZkozOQy5BTVQ@...627...>
	<20140917121533.GC1120@...2774...>
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL6x5JvJG+eJje1x9ZMDgC2VsCeTtviEq8yhS=RuinNAZQ@...627...>

We were looking at: http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/cat/arraydecl
But don't all array indices in Gambas begin at Zero?

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Tobias Boege <taboege at ...626...> wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Randall Morgan wrote:
> > A colleague pointed out to me that the wiki does not specify is Gambas
> > arrays are Zero or One based index. I told him zero based. However, I
> > though the wiki maintainer might want to add that to the wiki page for
> > arrays.
> >
>
> Which do you mean? There are Boolean[], String[], etc. (the native arrays)
> under /comp/gb/, where the Array class plays a special role. We have array
> pages under /lang/, too.
>
> The problem is that you can only say that the native array classes in
> the gb component have zero-based indices. Putting this note into the
> documentation of the Array class wouldn't be quite correct as each class
> may decide upon their indexing on their own. You can even index by using
> Floats or Objects.
>
> Maybe we should add that sentence to every native array page...?
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>
> --
> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
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>



-- 
If you ask me if it can be done. The answer is YES, it can always be done.
The correct questions however are... What will it cost, and how long will
it take?


From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 15:06:35 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:06:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.
In-Reply-To: <54196FD0.3080508@...3340...>
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many thanks.



From taboege at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 15:04:05 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:04:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki Update
In-Reply-To: <CAGwqEL6x5JvJG+eJje1x9ZMDgC2VsCeTtviEq8yhS=RuinNAZQ@...627...>
References: <CAGwqEL7bHVDBEtSEbBQUxDyHP8=JMp8kb_W-b-ZkozOQy5BTVQ@...627...>
	<20140917121533.GC1120@...2774...>
	<CAGwqEL6x5JvJG+eJje1x9ZMDgC2VsCeTtviEq8yhS=RuinNAZQ@...627...>
Message-ID: <20140917130405.GD1120@...2774...>

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Randall Morgan wrote:
> We were looking at: http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/cat/arraydecl
> But don't all array indices in Gambas begin at Zero?
> 

What does it mean to be an array? I'm not sure. If you call an "array" what
can be used like an array then these are the classes implementing the _get()
and/or _put() special methods.

Collection also implements these methods but takes string indices. Tomorrow
I can add "Matlab-compatible" classes to a component which index from 1 on,
or a class that uses matrices or powers of Pi to index.

But yes, if you qualify an array as either:
  a) native arrays or
  b) array classes created on-the-fly by the interpreter when using the
     <ClassName>[] syntax ("derived arrays")
then you can say that indexing begins at zero, for sure. These make ~ 80%
of array uses in my projects, from a very quick grep. So much for its
raison d'etre.

Maybe we should add an article into the Lexicon[0]?

Regards,
Tobi

[0] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/def

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 15:28:31 2014
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:28:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] ...And what is planned for Gambas 3.7
In-Reply-To: <54193200.70500@...221...>
References: <54177E6F.2090908@...1...>
	<201409160946.50060.rolf.frogs@...221...>
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	<54193200.70500@...221...>
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Well it's a good idea... For the user interface ... You can take some ideas
from gambasforge ;-)

I think a repository of classes;components that can be moderate can be a
good idea too. So users can use a large bases of offered free code.
Maybe a repository for ide adds too

The upload door must be via the use
There is a need for different access point :
- End user
- Programmer via ide

I think the ability to comment and notate programs is inprtant too.

But you need to add moderator feedback.

It's an huge work ... Good luck !

Mais l'id?e est me semble t-il assez novatrice pour ce qui est de la
facilitation de l'installation.

Managing all the  distrib spec can become a nightmare soon, no ?



Le 17 sept. 2014 09:03, "Rolf-Werner Eilert" <eilert-sprachen at ...221...>
a ?crit :

> I agree. At least it should be possible to hold the help files locally
> in case there is no (regular) internet access. Can't the IDE decide
> where to load them from? IF internet access THEN download ELSE locally...
>
> Rolf
>
>
> Am 16.09.2014 10:55, schrieb Randall Morgan:
> > I would allow the user to chose during installation if basic help files
> and
> > basic example files were to be downloaded locally. But let the user know
> > that there are more available online. That way those like myself who
> often
> > travel to where there is no internet can decide what they need to take
> with
> > them.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:46 AM, rolf <rolf.frogs at ...221...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi Beno?t
> >>
> >>> For the next version, I'd like to implement a Gambas dedicated software
> >>> repository.
> >> It sounds good
> >>
> >>> 1) The Gambas repository is an http web service, but without website at
> >>> the moment. It will allow to:
> >>> - upload software.
> >>> - search for software.
> >>> - download software.
> >>>
> >>> 2) A software is a compiled Gambas project, with eventually the source
> >>> project. Nothing more.
> >>>
> >>> 3) In the IDE, I will add a dialog to upload your project.
> >>>
> >>> 4) Uploading a project requires:
> >>> - a login and a password, so you should be able to create an account
> >>> from the IDE.
> >>> - a project name.
> >>> - a project description.
> >>> - a project icon.
> >>> - a project screenshot (optional).
> >>> - a project major version.
> >>> - tags. Some tags will be automatic (for example the component used by
> >>> the project), some will be predefined.
> >>> - a project control sum (MD5/SHA...).
> >>>
> >>> 5) I will made an external Gambas program to:
> >>> - Search for projects inside the repository.
> >>> - Download and install a project somewhere in the user home directory.
> >>>
> >>> 6) That program should be able to know how to install the needed gambas
> >>> binary packages according to the system distribution. If it is not
> >>> possible, it should at least warn the user about missing components.
> >>>
> >>> 7) A Gambas program may depend on other programs in the repository.
> That
> >>> way libraries will be able to be put in the repository too.
> >>>
> >>> 8) Gambas examples will be moved from the source tree to the
> repository.
> >> That is not a good idea in my opinion, because one cannot start
> >> programming or
> >> look at examples without an internet connection. A set of basic examples
> >> should still be installed locally, when install gambas.
> >>
> >> Just my 2 ct.
> >> Rolf
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Want excitement?
> >> Manually upgrade your production database.
> >> When you want reliability, choose Perforce.
> >> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> >>
> >>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
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> >> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 15:44:34 2014
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:44:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Thread view broken
In-Reply-To: <20140916233757.GG5614@...2774...>
References: <20140916233757.GG5614@...2774...>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL5BR2mX=hmn0h4_dQBo1SKPG9OXSYkM3=8gpcwg9_3sHw@...627...>

:-) the 90's client mail ... Really stable ! .. it didn't take ages
Le 17 sept. 2014 01:41, "Tobias Boege" <taboege at ...626...> a ?crit :

> Hi people,
>
> as of recently there were more mails than usual which broke the thread view
> of which some mail clients are capable and which some of us like very much.
>
> On the one side, there are mails which start a new topic (judging from
> their
> content), but belong to an already existing thread. This happens when the
> sender replies to a message in an (unrelated) thread instead of creating an
> entirely new message. There is a screenshot showing multiple of these
> instances.
>
> On the other side, there are some mails which drop out of a thread for no
> apparent reason. My mail client uses the In-Reply-To and References headers
> to do its thread thing and I think this is the popular way. From those who
> write regularly, I see Ru Vuott doing this from time to time and PICCORO
> McKAY Lenz all the time. Maybe your mail clients have a blackout sometimes?
>
> Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to be the "mail police". It's not too
> much traffic for me to relink the wrong mails once in a time. But if the
> mails would arrive correct, that would be great!
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>
> --
> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce.
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
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>


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 16:27:37 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:27:37 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5419218E.9090107@...3340...>
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> > git checkout pristine-tar
> > git checkout upstream
> > git checkout master
>
> Thats silly. git checkout just changes branches. In this example you
> switch between three branches and do nothing.
>

Well this is what the admin of the git repository told me to do. I tried
several times, and this really was required.
Maybe there is some magic in git...


Jussi


From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 16:35:36 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:35:36 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Wiki Update
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I am talking about native gambas arrays of any standard gambas type....

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Tobias Boege <taboege at ...626...> wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Randall Morgan wrote:
> > We were looking at: http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/cat/arraydecl
> > But don't all array indices in Gambas begin at Zero?
> >
>
> What does it mean to be an array? I'm not sure. If you call an "array" what
> can be used like an array then these are the classes implementing the
> _get()
> and/or _put() special methods.
>
> Collection also implements these methods but takes string indices. Tomorrow
> I can add "Matlab-compatible" classes to a component which index from 1 on,
> or a class that uses matrices or powers of Pi to index.
>
> But yes, if you qualify an array as either:
>   a) native arrays or
>   b) array classes created on-the-fly by the interpreter when using the
>      <ClassName>[] syntax ("derived arrays")
> then you can say that indexing begins at zero, for sure. These make ~ 80%
> of array uses in my projects, from a very quick grep. So much for its
> raison d'etre.
>
> Maybe we should add an article into the Lexicon[0]?
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>
> [0] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/def
>
> --
> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
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>



-- 
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The correct questions however are... What will it cost, and how long will
it take?


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 16:39:18 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:39:18 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <5418E887.4000901@...3375...>
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> 1) SVN will not detect a corruption - with Git the sha1 hash will
> confirm that your source is unadulterated no matter who you pull it from.
>

Applies to situation where there is more than one repo where to pull. AFAIK
there isn't for Gambas.



> 2) With SVN, all your eggs are in one basket - Linus does not (or need
> to) back up the linux kernel because everyone has a copy.
>

Well, backups are something you have to do anyway. Unless everything
important in you computer is on the git repo. I don't think so.


3) With Git branching and merging are really cheap and hence very fast -
> SVN fosters long periods of lone worker activity (during which there is
> no source code control) simply because merging is difficult and you do
> not want to commit half baked fixes because of the repercussions to
> other users by forcing more merges on them.
>

Maybe, I didn't get that far.



> 4) With Git you can work on the source without having a connection to
> the server and still remain protected by source control.
>

I didn't like how this source control was implemented, I find it extremely
clumsy.



> To me it works best through a good Gui client or when it is part of your
> IDE (I am used to Jetbrains).  But if you are a command-line junkie then
> fill your boots.
>

I'm OK with both. Maybe some nice GUI would hide the complexity and make
git great... sounds just quite a bit of work.



Jussi


From chrisml at ...3340...  Wed Sep 17 17:01:47 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:01:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7SUo9eYCYB79uA6XHwLvgSUz5hrhKsjspnnUEs_XGeK0Q@...627...>
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Am 17.09.2014 um 16:27 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>>> git checkout pristine-tar
>>> git checkout upstream
>>> git checkout master
>>
>> Thats silly. git checkout just changes branches. In this example you
>> switch between three branches and do nothing.
> 
> Well this is what the admin of the git repository told me to do. I tried
> several times, and this really was required.
> Maybe there is some magic in git...

No. Respectively strange ...

http://git-scm.com/docs/git-checkout

git co changes the working tree. In your case

first to pristine-tar
then to upstream
then to master

You could also do one time
"git checkout master"

And the result is the same.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
[x] nail here for new monitor


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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 17:15:43 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:15:43 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
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> http://git-scm.com/docs/git-checkout
>
> git co changes the working tree.
>

Seems it doesn't just switch.
"Updates files in the working tree to match the version in the index or the
specified tree."


Jussi


From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 17:38:24 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:38:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
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Just watch the Linus 2007 video and make your own mind up.

On 17/09/14 15:39, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>> 1) SVN will not detect a corruption - with Git the sha1 hash will
>> confirm that your source is unadulterated no matter who you pull it from.
>>
> 
> Applies to situation where there is more than one repo where to pull. AFAIK
> there isn't for Gambas.
> 
> 
> 
>> 2) With SVN, all your eggs are in one basket - Linus does not (or need
>> to) back up the linux kernel because everyone has a copy.
>>
> 
> Well, backups are something you have to do anyway. Unless everything
> important in you computer is on the git repo. I don't think so.
> 
> 
> 3) With Git branching and merging are really cheap and hence very fast -
>> SVN fosters long periods of lone worker activity (during which there is
>> no source code control) simply because merging is difficult and you do
>> not want to commit half baked fixes because of the repercussions to
>> other users by forcing more merges on them.
>>
> 
> Maybe, I didn't get that far.
> 
> 
> 
>> 4) With Git you can work on the source without having a connection to
>> the server and still remain protected by source control.
>>
> 
> I didn't like how this source control was implemented, I find it extremely
> clumsy.
> 
> 
> 
>> To me it works best through a good Gui client or when it is part of your
>> IDE (I am used to Jetbrains).  But if you are a command-line junkie then
>> fill your boots.
>>
> 
> I'm OK with both. Maybe some nice GUI would hide the complexity and make
> git great... sounds just quite a bit of work.
> 
> 
> 
> Jussi
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 



From chrisml at ...3340...  Wed Sep 17 18:22:16 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:22:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
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Am 17.09.2014 um 16:39 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>> 1) SVN will not detect a corruption - with Git the sha1 hash will
>> confirm that your source is unadulterated no matter who you pull it from.
> 
> Applies to situation where there is more than one repo where to pull. AFAIK
> there isn't for Gambas.

No, that ist for detection of file corruption on disk. Or even file
corruption in general.

> 3) With Git branching and merging are really cheap and hence very fast -
>> SVN fosters long periods of lone worker activity (during which there is
>> no source code control) simply because merging is difficult and you do
>> not want to commit half baked fixes because of the repercussions to
>> other users by forcing more merges on them.
> 
> Maybe, I didn't get that far.

Yeah. This is the greatest advantage of Git: You have the complete
repository at your own computer in this one single hidden dir. If you
are working with your code, and want to try out just one simple thing,
you create a new branch:

git branch thisnewbutton

And switch into that branch:

git checkout thisnewbutton
(I write "git co thi<TAB>)

Now start coding and committing by and by. After finished last commit,
switch to branch master:

git checkout master

And do a merge:

git merge thisnewbutton

And you are done.

If you want to send your code to the central main repository you do a
"git push" and that's it.

On my main project lying around on the server I have a master and a
current development branch.

But on my machines where I work on both of these branches I have except
that a couple of branches just for testing and trying out some things.
If something works well, I merge it usually into the development branch
and push that onto the main repo.

If I have to do a hotfix in master + development, i usually fix it in
development and cherry-pick that hotfix into master, even if there are
lots of commits in between.

Another very cool advantage of Git is the superfast git grep. It greps
through the whole project in milliseconds and gives you every occurance
of a string in every file.

> I'm OK with both. Maybe some nice GUI would hide the complexity and make
> git great... sounds just quite a bit of work.

There are lots of different interfaces to Git. I like tig best and use
it all the time. It's fast, easy, usable everyvere. And I use gitweb on
the server to have a look at it in the browser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDR433b0HJY

3 or 5 hours working with Git (understanding staging) and you never want
to go back to SVN any more.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

-- 
[x] nail here for new monitor


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From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 18:36:42 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:36:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
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One more thing is disk space. With SVN there are two entire copies of
the repo.  On Git there is one and all the rest are diffs.

On the corruption front it works by sha hashing so you are
mathematically guaranteed that the code is sound!

On 17/09/14 17:22, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 17.09.2014 um 16:39 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>>> 1) SVN will not detect a corruption - with Git the sha1 hash will
>>> confirm that your source is unadulterated no matter who you pull it from.
>>
>> Applies to situation where there is more than one repo where to pull. AFAIK
>> there isn't for Gambas.
> 
> No, that ist for detection of file corruption on disk. Or even file
> corruption in general.
> 
>> 3) With Git branching and merging are really cheap and hence very fast -
>>> SVN fosters long periods of lone worker activity (during which there is
>>> no source code control) simply because merging is difficult and you do
>>> not want to commit half baked fixes because of the repercussions to
>>> other users by forcing more merges on them.
>>
>> Maybe, I didn't get that far.
> 
> Yeah. This is the greatest advantage of Git: You have the complete
> repository at your own computer in this one single hidden dir. If you
> are working with your code, and want to try out just one simple thing,
> you create a new branch:
> 
> git branch thisnewbutton
> 
> And switch into that branch:
> 
> git checkout thisnewbutton
> (I write "git co thi<TAB>)
> 
> Now start coding and committing by and by. After finished last commit,
> switch to branch master:
> 
> git checkout master
> 
> And do a merge:
> 
> git merge thisnewbutton
> 
> And you are done.
> 
> If you want to send your code to the central main repository you do a
> "git push" and that's it.
> 
> On my main project lying around on the server I have a master and a
> current development branch.
> 
> But on my machines where I work on both of these branches I have except
> that a couple of branches just for testing and trying out some things.
> If something works well, I merge it usually into the development branch
> and push that onto the main repo.
> 
> If I have to do a hotfix in master + development, i usually fix it in
> development and cherry-pick that hotfix into master, even if there are
> lots of commits in between.
> 
> Another very cool advantage of Git is the superfast git grep. It greps
> through the whole project in milliseconds and gives you every occurance
> of a string in every file.
> 
>> I'm OK with both. Maybe some nice GUI would hide the complexity and make
>> git great... sounds just quite a bit of work.
> 
> There are lots of different interfaces to Git. I like tig best and use
> it all the time. It's fast, easy, usable everyvere. And I use gitweb on
> the server to have a look at it in the browser.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDR433b0HJY
> 
> 3 or 5 hours working with Git (understanding staging) and you never want
> to go back to SVN any more.
> 
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
> Christof Thalhofer
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> 
> 
> 
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From chrisml at ...3340...  Wed Sep 17 18:41:54 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:41:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
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Am 17.09.2014 um 17:15 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>> http://git-scm.com/docs/git-checkout
>>
>> git co changes the working tree.
> 
> Seems it doesn't just switch.
> "Updates files in the working tree to match the version in the index or the
> specified tree."

Yes shure, all different files in the the whole tree of the filesystem
are changed by changing the branch.

See a branch as a different version of your program's source tree. You
can switch between the different versions of your program in a millisecond.

Try it out by yourself if you don't believe.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 17 20:32:13 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:32:13 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 526 in gambas: Please create an AppData
	file for Gambas3
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Comment #4 on issue 526 by hughsi... at ...626...: Please create an AppData  
file for Gambas3
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=526

The AppData file needs to be installed to /usr/share/appdata/ on Linux and  
the basename needs to match the .desktop basename. It would also be great  
if you could integrate the file with your translation system (e.g.  
intltool) to make the descriptions translated.

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From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 20:51:22 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 19:51:22 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk
Message-ID: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>

I am working through the build errors in output.txt and the first header
file that cannot be found is <ffi.h>
Could someone tell me what the C standard header path should be set to.
[System]
Gambas=3.5.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
Desktop=XFCE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=7863M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.400.2
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3
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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 20:59:47 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:59:47 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
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>  No, that ist for detection of file corruption on disk. Or even file
> corruption in general.
>

Hmmm... I wonder what is the difference exactly. How svn can detect
conflict, if it cannot detect corruption?



> Now start coding and committing by and by.
>

What I didn't like is the way you need to make the commits, a lot of work
for just adding one line to the sources.



>  There are lots of different interfaces to Git. I like tig best and use
> it all the time. It's fast, easy, usable everyvere. And I use gitweb on
> the server to have a look at it in the browser.
>

Thanks, I will keep that on my mind. I'm not right now involved with
projects using git, but if I need I'll try that next time.



Jussi


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 21:02:45 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 22:02:45 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk
In-Reply-To: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7QOEU7B7phK+k_F-TjY0O-c6BpVBOaTvqfMLb+xnF8GUQ@...627...>

You are missing a lot of devs.
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install?w&l=en


Jussi

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:51 PM, John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:

> I am working through the build errors in output.txt and the first header
> file that cannot be found is <ffi.h>
> Could someone tell me what the C standard header path should be set to.
> [System]
> Gambas=3.5.90
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
> Desktop=XFCE
> Theme=QGtk
> Language=en_GB.UTF-8
> Memory=7863M
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.400.2
> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
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>
>


From taboege at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 21:04:13 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:04:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk
In-Reply-To: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> I am working through the build errors in output.txt and the first header
> file that cannot be found is <ffi.h>
> Could someone tell me what the C standard header path should be set to.
> [System]
> Gambas=3.5.90
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

configure should (con)figure this out itself. Do you have libffi installed?
For Ubuntu, the package is allegedly[0] called "libffi-dev".

[0] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/ubuntu

-- 
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From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 21:40:29 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 20:40:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk
In-Reply-To: <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...> <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>
Message-ID: <5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>

Nearly there.
|| THESE COMPONENTS ARE DISABLED:
|| - gb.jit

|| Unable to find file: libintl.so
|| Unable to find file: libiconv.so
Any ideas ?
On 17/09/14 20:04, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
>> I am working through the build errors in output.txt and the first header
>> file that cannot be found is <ffi.h>
>> Could someone tell me what the C standard header path should be set to.
>> [System]
>> Gambas=3.5.90
>> OperatingSystem=Linux
>> Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
>> Architecture=x86_64
>> Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
> 
> configure should (con)figure this out itself. Do you have libffi installed?
> For Ubuntu, the package is allegedly[0] called "libffi-dev".
> 
> [0] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/ubuntu
> 
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From taboege at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 21:51:33 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:51:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Nearly there.
> || THESE COMPONENTS ARE DISABLED:
> || - gb.jit
> 

Great. gb.jit needs LLVM >= 3.3, I think (although its configure.ac says
only >= 3.1)... Depending on your Ubuntu version this may or may not be
in your repositories yet. If it's not, it is still packaged for Gambas in
the Gambas-Team's PPA[0] (which is yet another version number: 3.2). Maybe
someone who uses Ubuntu can help here.

(At least I'm running gb.jit fine with LLVM 3.3svn which I compiled last
December or so.)

> || Unable to find file: libintl.so
> || Unable to find file: libiconv.so
> Any ideas ?

libintl.so and libiconv.so are likely inside your system's C library, so
don't worry about them. (Unless the build fails, but I haven't seen that
happening here yet.)

Regards,
Tobi

[0] https://launchpad.net/~gambas-team/+archive/ubuntu/gambas-daily

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From taboege at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 21:58:03 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:58:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk
In-Reply-To: <20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...> <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>
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Message-ID: <20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...>

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> > Nearly there.
> > || THESE COMPONENTS ARE DISABLED:
> > || - gb.jit
> > 
> 
> Great. gb.jit needs LLVM >= 3.3, I think (although its configure.ac says
> only >= 3.1)... Depending on your Ubuntu version this may or may not be
> in your repositories yet. If it's not, it is still packaged for Gambas in
> the Gambas-Team's PPA[0] (which is yet another version number: 3.2). Maybe
> someone who uses Ubuntu can help here.
> 
> (At least I'm running gb.jit fine with LLVM 3.3svn which I compiled last
> December or so.)
> 

Oh, and if you don't feel like doing this now, it's not a problem. gb.jit
adds a just-in-time compiler for Gambas bytecode. This component is purely
optional and will "just" speed up execution (of appropriate code).

You can go ahead without gb.jit, compile, install and run Gambas -- all of
it! (Except for some benchmarks of... the JIT compiler.)

-- 
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From chrisml at ...3340...  Wed Sep 17 22:06:35 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 22:06:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour
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	(sfid-)
Message-ID: <5419E9CB.4040701@...3340...>

Am 17.09.2014 um 20:59 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
>>  No, that ist for detection of file corruption on disk. Or even file
>> corruption in general.
>>
> Hmmm... I wonder what is the difference exactly. How svn can detect
> conflict, if it cannot detect corruption?

Hmmm... :-), too complicated for me to answer. Ask Linus, he did a talk
about that, there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8#t=56m16s

>> Now start coding and committing by and by.
> 
> What I didn't like is the way you need to make the commits, a lot of work
> for just adding one line to the sources.

Yes, that was my thought also, when I started using Git. Why there is a
staging area between me and the repo?

In the beginning I did "Fuck! Commit all!" as in SVN.

Now I know, that if I work, I often see a piece of code, that is
malformatted or has a little thing, that is to be fixed, but has nothing
to do with the task, I'm working on. I fix it, yeah, inbetween.

When I commit the work with tig (sorry, I am not anymore able to explain
it in Git commands) out of the staging-area, now I'm commiting things in
the context of what has been done. I do not commit the work of an
afternoon, but I commit 1) the task I did and then 2) the two or three
other things I did, while resolving the first task, in separate commits.

So my commits are much cleaner. They show really the task I worked on
and not the garbage I did else in maybe other files or other places in
the same file. You can commit even parts of the file you changed, in Git
they are called "hunks".

http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Tools-Interactive-Staging

If I want to see, what I did five weeks ago, I see, what I did, and not
what I did else that afternoon.

And If I did just lazy editing around, I do a commit all and call it
"anything".

> Thanks, I will keep that on my mind. I'm not right now involved with
> projects using git, but if I need I'll try that next time.

Yeah, cool, try it out. Take a lazy sunday afternoon with Git. :-)


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From jleake at ...3375...  Wed Sep 17 22:33:15 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:33:15 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk
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References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>
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My Ubuntu version is 12.04.5 LTS as shown at the head if this thread.
I just did a sudo apt-get install llvm and hey all I have now is
|| Unable to find file: libintl.so
|| Unable to find file: libiconv.so
Before make and sudo make install
I did:-
sudo apt-get purge ganmas3
and
sudo apt-get autoremove
and verified that there was no gambas3 executable
then make and sudo make install and all seems OK.

Summary to this thread
----------------------
I used a net se to look for how to build gambas3 trunk from the
subversion repo which pulled up

http://www.gambasdoc.org/help/howto/svn?v3#t2

This was not enough info even though I followed the steps to the letter.
user help pointed me to

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/report#t3
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install

This was also not enough so more help pointed me to

http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/ubuntu#t6

This did not quite make it so more help suggested I install llvm and the
feeling I got was almost better than sex.

Conclusion
----------
If all the docs relating to building trunk were combined and in the same
place I would have got here with just a single request for help.

Many thanks to you all,
John Leake

On 17/09/14 20:58, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Tobias Boege wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
>>> Nearly there.
>>> || THESE COMPONENTS ARE DISABLED:
>>> || - gb.jit
>>>
>>
>> Great. gb.jit needs LLVM >= 3.3, I think (although its configure.ac says
>> only >= 3.1)... Depending on your Ubuntu version this may or may not be
>> in your repositories yet. If it's not, it is still packaged for Gambas in
>> the Gambas-Team's PPA[0] (which is yet another version number: 3.2). Maybe
>> someone who uses Ubuntu can help here.
>>
>> (At least I'm running gb.jit fine with LLVM 3.3svn which I compiled last
>> December or so.)
>>
> 
> Oh, and if you don't feel like doing this now, it's not a problem. gb.jit
> adds a just-in-time compiler for Gambas bytecode. This component is purely
> optional and will "just" speed up execution (of appropriate code).
> 
> You can go ahead without gb.jit, compile, install and run Gambas -- all of
> it! (Except for some benchmarks of... the JIT compiler.)
> 



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Wed Sep 17 23:08:56 2014
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 23:08:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk
In-Reply-To: <5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...> <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>
	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...> <20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>
	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...> <5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
Message-ID: <1410988136.3486.13.camel@...40...>

Am Mittwoch, den 17.09.2014, 21:33 +0100 schrieb John Leake:
> My Ubuntu version is 12.04.5 LTS as shown at the head if this thread.
> I just did a sudo apt-get install llvm and hey all I have now is
> || Unable to find file: libintl.so
> || Unable to find file: libiconv.so
> Before make and sudo make install
> I did:-
> sudo apt-get purge ganmas3
> and
> sudo apt-get autoremove
> and verified that there was no gambas3 executable
> then make and sudo make install and all seems OK.
> 
> Summary to this thread
> ----------------------
> I used a net se to look for how to build gambas3 trunk from the
> subversion repo which pulled up
> 
> http://www.gambasdoc.org/help/howto/svn?v3#t2
> 
> This was not enough info even though I followed the steps to the letter.
> user help pointed me to
> 
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/report#t3
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install
> 
> This was also not enough so more help pointed me to
> 
> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/ubuntu#t6
> 
> This did not quite make it so more help suggested I install llvm and the
> feeling I got was almost better than sex.

? better than what ? I know 0 , 1 and bits and bytes but what is sex...
a new  kind of pizza with coffee in ?

> 
> Conclusion
> ----------
> If all the docs relating to building trunk were combined and in the same
> place I would have got here with just a single request for help.
> 
> Many thanks to you all,
> John Leake
> 
> On 17/09/14 20:58, Tobias Boege wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Tobias Boege wrote:
> >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> >>> Nearly there.
> >>> || THESE COMPONENTS ARE DISABLED:
> >>> || - gb.jit
> >>>
> >>
> >> Great. gb.jit needs LLVM >= 3.3, I think (although its configure.ac says
> >> only >= 3.1)... Depending on your Ubuntu version this may or may not be
> >> in your repositories yet. If it's not, it is still packaged for Gambas in
> >> the Gambas-Team's PPA[0] (which is yet another version number: 3.2). Maybe
> >> someone who uses Ubuntu can help here.
> >>
> >> (At least I'm running gb.jit fine with LLVM 3.3svn which I compiled last
> >> December or so.)
> >>
> > 
> > Oh, and if you don't feel like doing this now, it's not a problem. gb.jit
> > adds a just-in-time compiler for Gambas bytecode. This component is purely
> > optional and will "just" speed up execution (of appropriate code).
> > 
> > You can go ahead without gb.jit, compile, install and run Gambas -- all of
> > it! (Except for some benchmarks of... the JIT compiler.)
> > 





From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep 17 23:52:25 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 00:52:25 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk
In-Reply-To: <5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...> <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>
	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...> <20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>
	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...> <5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7SKyDfkxMy5QNzQ_UHeuS7KZtkjLMt+vWS-R7j0-vCLYQ@...627...>

*"If all the docs relating to building trunk were combined and in the same
place I would have got here with just a single request for help."*



> http://www.gambasdoc.org/help/howto/svn?v3#t2
>

Old documentation. This is going to be removed. New version of this is in
http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install .



> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/report#t3
>

This is documentation about bug reporting. Compiling documentation should
have link to this.



> http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install
>

General installing instructions. Which contains link to...


http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install/ubuntu#t6
>

...this. Which is specific installing instructions for Ubuntu.


So, they all do not belong into same page.


Jussi


From t.lee.davidson at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 00:16:07 2014
From: t.lee.davidson at ...626... (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:16:07 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>	<20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>	<20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>
	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...> <5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541A0827.7030109@...626...>

This again brings up an issue I brought up previously: that every page 
on the old wiki should have that same notice that is on the home page.

"THE WIKI IS NOW IN READ-ONLY MODE.
THE NEW WIKI IS NOW HOSTED AT http://gambaswiki.org"

I asked if that could be done, but I don't see it yet. And, I realize 
not everyone has all the time in the world.

Even better yet, though, might be a page specific 301 ("Moved 
Permanently") redirect to the new Wiki so that SEs would update their 
links. Could that be done with the old wiki, relatively easily?


On 09/17/2014 04:33 PM, John Leake wrote:
> I used a net se to look for how to build gambas3 trunk from the
> subversion repo which pulled up
>
> http://www.gambasdoc.org/help/howto/svn?v3#t2



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 18 01:05:07 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 01:05:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541A0827.7030109@...626...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>	<20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>	<20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...>
	<5419F00B.3080005@...3375...> <541A0827.7030109@...626...>
Message-ID: <541A13A3.2090901@...1...>

/// My God! Stop using the same thread for all subjects! ///

Le 18/09/2014 00:16, T Lee Davidson a ?crit :
> This again brings up an issue I brought up previously: that every page
> on the old wiki should have that same notice that is on the home page.
>
> "THE WIKI IS NOW IN READ-ONLY MODE.
> THE NEW WIKI IS NOW HOSTED AT http://gambaswiki.org"
>
> I asked if that could be done, but I don't see it yet. And, I realize
> not everyone has all the time in the world.

This is done. I added a message in every page.

>
> Even better yet, though, might be a page specific 301 ("Moved
> Permanently") redirect to the new Wiki so that SEs would update their
> links. Could that be done with the old wiki, relatively easily?
>

No, because the old documentation must stay a little for Gambas 2 users. 
The new wiki is only for Gambas >= 3.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From willy at ...2734...  Thu Sep 18 01:50:31 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 01:50:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stat() Auth and Mode (misunderstanding or bug?)
Message-ID: <1410997831.32756.9.camel@...3024...>

Hi all,

Following was brought to my attention:

To reproduce make a file named test in your home folder.
Create a console project in IDE with any name you like

Public Sub Main()

  Dim sPath As String
  sPath = User.Home &/ "test"
  With Stat(sPath)
    Print "Auth: " & .Auth
    Print "Mode: " & .Mode
 End With

End

Run the project.
Output is:

Auth: rw-r--r--
Mode: 420

Should mode not be 644 or do I misunderstand Stat().Mode?

user rw- = 6
group r-- = 4
other r-- = 4

My info:

[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.2.0-68-generic
Architecture=x86
Distribution=Linux Mint 13 Maya
Desktop=MATE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=2446M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.0.0.0
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 18 01:53:22 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 01:53:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stat() Auth and Mode (misunderstanding or bug?)
In-Reply-To: <1410997831.32756.9.camel@...3024...>
References: <1410997831.32756.9.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <541A1EF2.6010305@...1...>

Le 18/09/2014 01:50, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> Hi all,
>
> Following was brought to my attention:
>
> To reproduce make a file named test in your home folder.
> Create a console project in IDE with any name you like
>
> Public Sub Main()
>
>    Dim sPath As String
>    sPath = User.Home &/ "test"
>    With Stat(sPath)
>      Print "Auth: " & .Auth
>      Print "Mode: " & .Mode
>   End With
>
> End
>
> Run the project.
> Output is:
>
> Auth: rw-r--r--
> Mode: 420
>
> Should mode not be 644 or do I misunderstand Stat().Mode?
>
> user rw- = 6
> group r-- = 4
> other r-- = 4
>

644 is octal. In decimal it is 420.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From willy at ...2734...  Thu Sep 18 02:09:38 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 02:09:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stat() Auth and Mode (misunderstanding or bug?)
In-Reply-To: <541A1EF2.6010305@...1...>
References: <1410997831.32756.9.camel@...3024...>
	<541A1EF2.6010305@...1...>
Message-ID: <1410998978.32756.21.camel@...3024...>

On do, 2014-09-18 at 01:53 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 18/09/2014 01:50, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Following was brought to my attention:
> >
> > To reproduce make a file named test in your home folder.
> > Create a console project in IDE with any name you like
> >
> > Public Sub Main()
> >
> >    Dim sPath As String
> >    sPath = User.Home &/ "test"
> >    With Stat(sPath)
> >      Print "Auth: " & .Auth
> >      Print "Mode: " & .Mode
> >   End With
> >
> > End
> >
> > Run the project.
> > Output is:
> >
> > Auth: rw-r--r--
> > Mode: 420
> >
> > Should mode not be 644 or do I misunderstand Stat().Mode?
> >
> > user rw- = 6
> > group r-- = 4
> > other r-- = 4
> >
> 
> 644 is octal. In decimal it is 420.

That explains a lot and at the same time it is confusing as I got used
to octal representation when running chmod on linux.

I guess I'll have to rewire my brain when using Stat().Mode in Gambas :)

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 02:19:34 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 01:19:34 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541A13A3.2090901@...1...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>	<20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>	<20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...>	<5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
	<541A0827.7030109@...626...>
	<541A13A3.2090901@...1...>
Message-ID: <541A2516.7060301@...3375...>

What is going on here ?

I really do not understand. I (John Leake the gambas newbie) started a
new thread about the problems I was experiencing in attempting to build
from svn trunk.

Please do not loose sight of the fact that it all worked in the end
(which is a major achievement).

I was careful to be as self sufficient as possible. With my limited
knowledge of this domain I was forced to used common SE techniques (in
the absence of any direct integrated help) to try and find a definitive
explanation as to how I should p[roceed.

At the end of the thread I made extra effort to pull my entire
experience into a concise conclusion so that other newbies do not
generate the same old noise that seems to have been going on since 2008.

Why does documentation get the short end of the stick and never get the
attention it deserves.  It would save everyone a whole shed load of time
if it was streamlined and put in one place along side the code that it
was meant to represent.  It really cannot exist outside of source code
control.

Where will you be when there is a gambas4, 5 and 6 ?

If you combine the help (relevant to this thread) from each of the 4
urls' I had to visit it would only be a few lines longer than any of the
urls if taken separately.

By the way I selected version 3 where there was an option to do so.

What is wrong with a generic explanation followed by caveats pertinent
to each distro where required ?



From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 02:26:54 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 01:26:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541A2516.7060301@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>	<20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>	<20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...>	<5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>	<541A0827.7030109@...626...>	<541A13A3.2090901@...1...>
	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>

Sorry guys I did about sixteen hours on this yesterday and only had
about 4 hours sleep last night so I will just have to call it a dorris
and let all you fit youngsters slug it out.



From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 02:39:17 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 01:39:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>	<20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>	<20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...>	<5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>	<541A0827.7030109@...626...>	<541A13A3.2090901@...1...>	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...>
	<541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541A29B5.10709@...3375...>

WARNING - building Gambas3 can fuck up your desktop.
My window borders have vanished.



From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 02:47:25 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 01:47:25 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541A29B5.10709@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>	<20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>	<20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...>	<5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>	<541A0827.7030109@...626...>	<541A13A3.2090901@...1...>	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...>	<541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>
	<541A29B5.10709@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541A2B9D.9010409@...3375...>

I cannot deal with this right now.  Despite purging Gambas3 autoremove
and update and reinstalling my desktop it has all turned to ratshit!!!

On 18/09/14 01:39, John Leake wrote:
> WARNING - building Gambas3 can fuck up your desktop.
> My window borders have vanished.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 03:17:14 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 04:17:14 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541A2B9D.9010409@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...> <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>
	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...> <20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>
	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...> <5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
	<541A0827.7030109@...626...> <541A13A3.2090901@...1...>
	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...> <541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>
	<541A29B5.10709@...3375...> <541A2B9D.9010409@...3375...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7Q+e7hWuK3msOF8tcKB505ZWQL1fS5EVk_MRo5=3AF4CQ@...627...>

Hard to believe it is Gambas issue. I think your window manager has
crashed, either restart it or reboot.
If it is config issue, then it's more complicated.


Jussi

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:47 AM, John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:

> I cannot deal with this right now.  Despite purging Gambas3 autoremove
> and update and reinstalling my desktop it has all turned to ratshit!!!
>
> On 18/09/14 01:39, John Leake wrote:
> > WARNING - building Gambas3 can fuck up your desktop.
> > My window borders have vanished.
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Want excitement?
> > Manually upgrade your production database.
> > When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> > Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> >
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 07:40:07 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 22:40:07 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7Q+e7hWuK3msOF8tcKB505ZWQL1fS5EVk_MRo5=3AF4CQ@...627...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...> <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>
	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...> <20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>
	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...> <5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
	<541A0827.7030109@...626...> <541A13A3.2090901@...1...>
	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...> <541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>
	<541A29B5.10709@...3375...> <541A2B9D.9010409@...3375...>
	<CAFJMe7Q+e7hWuK3msOF8tcKB505ZWQL1fS5EVk_MRo5=3AF4CQ@...627...>
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL78mHhaE47T84ozdJq2E=tkD=b9pvFQA275fJVt0vsnDw@...627...>

Hi John,

I run a system similar to yours. Still running 12.04 LTS and have not only
routinely built Gambas 3 from source but, I have gone back and forth
between the repo versions and the trunk code. If you take care to ensure
all the listed prerequisites are installed, Gambas 3 build fine and does
not mess with the any of the desktops I have ran. I would doubt that GB
messed anything up. I suppose it is possible but I don't think it is likely.

I think what you may be experiencing is the newbie learning curve that
every newbie experiences. Are you familiar with  managing a *nix OS? Are
you familiar with SVN or other VCS systems? If not, in time you will be. If
you are, then building Gambas should be straight-forward.  Evenry *nix
project has dependencies and every *nix OS provides it's own repo and often
it's own dependency names... If you work on Ubuntu get used to pulling
newer versions of libraries from upstream (Debian) to keep the latest
software working...

All in all though, Ubuntu is a great OS. I run Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint, and
others and find Ubuntu my preferred, non-server *nix OS.

So pat yourself on the back for crossing the first major hurtle on the way
to learning and using a great Basic variant language! You'll have a
challenging road ahead but each step is worth the effort and the learning
curve for Gambas rounds off quickly.


Randall



On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>
wrote:

> Hard to believe it is Gambas issue. I think your window manager has
> crashed, either restart it or reboot.
> If it is config issue, then it's more complicated.
>
>
> Jussi
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:47 AM, John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:
>
> > I cannot deal with this right now.  Despite purging Gambas3 autoremove
> > and update and reinstalling my desktop it has all turned to ratshit!!!
> >
> > On 18/09/14 01:39, John Leake wrote:
> > > WARNING - building Gambas3 can fuck up your desktop.
> > > My window borders have vanished.
> > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Want excitement?
> > > Manually upgrade your production database.
> > > When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> > > Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> > >
> >
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Gambas-user mailing list
> > > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Want excitement?
> > Manually upgrade your production database.
> > When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> > Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> >
> >
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
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-- 
If you ask me if it can be done. The answer is YES, it can always be done.
The correct questions however are... What will it cost, and how long will
it take?


From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 10:38:30 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:38:30 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7Q+e7hWuK3msOF8tcKB505ZWQL1fS5EVk_MRo5=3AF4CQ@...627...>
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Hi Jussi,
One good thing here is that the system seems faster unless it is the
volume of adrenalin coursing through my arteries.  What a bloody mess.

Hi Randal,
I have been a self employed software engineer for more than 30 years
with a degree in Electronics and Physics.  I built my own video card,
RS232 keyboard, S100-bus single board computer based on the Motorola
6809 MCU (the first micro to allow position independent code with a
truly orthogonal instruction set) and an fsk modulator/demodulator so I
could save programs to cassette tape.  I wrote my first assembler in hex
and typed it in and saved the code all using the above hardware.

Ok so I was 60 years old this year and I admit I was not that bright
when I was a lot younger never mind the damage caused by flying along on
the tail end of the late 1960s revolution.

I am a newbie to Gambas that is all.  Linux is not my strongest OS, but
certainly my favourite.  As you get older you spend less time looking
into the interior of a tool and more time putting it to good use.  I
have tried more than a dozen distros and currently run 2 with regular
use of 4 others under VirtualBox. Including some M$ shite.  The distro
that is buggered up is BackBox 13 something.

I am still fuming over this bloody awful mess so sorry if I have
inadvertently dropped a shit load of baggage on you.

End of rant.

So moving forward any one got any bright ideas to track down the cause
of this.  I could have been hacked since I have been building a four NIC
firewall using a Raspberry Pi and could have had my guard down.

Some of the symptoms
--------------------

(1) System wide keyboard short cuts all fucked up.
(2) No Window decoration.
(3) Window layering, focus, bring to top - knackered.
(4) Default position on window launch not what it used to be.
(5) Thunderbird text menus not working.

Any one got any bright ideas where I should start to unravel this mess ?

Best regards,
John Leake



From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 10:58:11 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:58:11 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541A9A06.3050906@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>	<20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>	<20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...>	<5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>	<541A0827.7030109@...626...>	<541A13A3.2090901@...1...>	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...>	<541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>	<541A29B5.10709@...3375...>	<541A2B9D.9010409@...3375...>	<CAFJMe7Q+e7hWuK3msOF8tcKB505ZWQL1fS5EVk_MRo5=3AF4CQ@...627...>
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> Some of the symptoms
> --------------------
> 
> (1) System wide keyboard short cuts all fucked up.
> (2) No Window decoration.
> (3) Window layering, focus, bring to top - knackered.
> (4) Default position on window launch not what it used to be.
> (5) Thunderbird text menus not working.
(6) Firefox text menus not working
(7) Right Click context menus not working
(8) Desktop Panels not on top

What I have tried without success
---------------------------------
sudo apt-get purge gambas
sudo apt-get autoremove
BackBox restore desktop
Lots of reboots because the windows eventually fill the whole screen and
the top one is the last program launched.

Some of my ideas
----------------
Fucked up (sorry incompatible) graphics libraries.




From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 18 11:10:44 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 11:10:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541A9EA3.50903@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>	<20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>	<20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...>	<5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>	<541A0827.7030109@...626...>	<541A13A3.2090901@...1...>	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...>	<541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>	<541A29B5.10709@...3375...>	<541A2B9D.9010409@...3375...>	<CAFJMe7Q+e7hWuK3msOF8tcKB505ZWQL1fS5EVk_MRo5=3AF4CQ@...627...>	<541A9A06.3050906@...3375...>
	<541A9EA3.50903@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541AA194.8020107@...1...>

Le 18/09/2014 10:58, John Leake a ?crit :
>> Some of the symptoms
>> --------------------
>>
>> (1) System wide keyboard short cuts all fucked up.
>> (2) No Window decoration.
>> (3) Window layering, focus, bring to top - knackered.
>> (4) Default position on window launch not what it used to be.
>> (5) Thunderbird text menus not working.
> (6) Firefox text menus not working
> (7) Right Click context menus not working
> (8) Desktop Panels not on top
>
> What I have tried without success
> ---------------------------------
> sudo apt-get purge gambas
> sudo apt-get autoremove
> BackBox restore desktop
> Lots of reboots because the windows eventually fill the whole screen and
> the top one is the last program launched.
>
> Some of my ideas
> ----------------
> Fucked up (sorry incompatible) graphics libraries.
>
>

Gambas cannot destroy your system, installed from source of from binary 
packages. This is something else.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 11:14:52 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:14:52 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541A9EA3.50903@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>	<20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>	<20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...>	<5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>	<541A0827.7030109@...626...>	<541A13A3.2090901@...1...>	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...>	<541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>	<541A29B5.10709@...3375...>	<541A2B9D.9010409@...3375...>	<CAFJMe7Q+e7hWuK3msOF8tcKB505ZWQL1fS5EVk_MRo5=3AF4CQ@...627...>	<541A9A06.3050906@...3375...>
	<541A9EA3.50903@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541AA28C.9060004@...3375...>

>> Some of the symptoms
>> --------------------
>>
>> (1) System wide keyboard short cuts all fucked up.
>> (2) No Window decoration.
>> (3) Window layering, focus, bring to top - knackered.
>> (4) Default position on window launch not what it used to be.
>> (5) Thunderbird text menus not working.
> (6) Firefox text menus not working
> (7) Right Click context menus not working
> (8) Desktop Panels not on top
> 
> What I have tried without success
> ---------------------------------
> sudo apt-get purge gambas
> sudo apt-get autoremove
> BackBox restore desktop
> Lots of reboots because the windows eventually fill the whole screen and
> the top one is the last program launched.
Removing all the gambas repos and updating and rebooting
rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity

> 
> Some of my ideas
> ----------------
> Fucked up (sorry incompatible) graphics libraries.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 



From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 11:16:35 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:16:35 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541AA194.8020107@...1...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>	<20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>	<20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...>	<5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>	<541A0827.7030109@...626...>	<541A13A3.2090901@...1...>	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...>	<541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>	<541A29B5.10709@...3375...>	<541A2B9D.9010409@...3375...>	<CAFJMe7Q+e7hWuK3msOF8tcKB505ZWQL1fS5EVk_MRo5=3AF4CQ@...627...>	<541A9A06.3050906@...3375...>	<541A9EA3.50903@...3375...>
	<541AA194.8020107@...1...>
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> Gambas cannot destroy your system, installed from source of from binary 
> packages. This is something else.
Any suggestions ?



From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 11:51:05 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:51:05 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541AA28C.9060004@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>	<20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...>	<20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...>	<5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>	<541A0827.7030109@...626...>	<541A13A3.2090901@...1...>	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...>	<541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>	<541A29B5.10709@...3375...>	<541A2B9D.9010409@...3375...>	<CAFJMe7Q+e7hWuK3msOF8tcKB505ZWQL1fS5EVk_MRo5=3AF4CQ@...627...>	<541A9A06.3050906@...3375...>	<541A9EA3.50903@...3375...>
	<541AA28C.9060004@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541AAB09.7020708@...3375...>

>>> Some of the symptoms
>>> --------------------
>>>
>>> (1) System wide keyboard short cuts all fucked up.
>>> (2) No Window decoration.
>>> (3) Window layering, focus, bring to top - knackered.
>>> (4) Default position on window launch not what it used to be.
>>> (5) Thunderbird text menus not working.
>> (6) Firefox text menus not working
>> (7) Right Click context menus not working
>> (8) Desktop Panels not on top
>>
>> What I have tried without success
>> ---------------------------------
>> sudo apt-get purge gambas
>> sudo apt-get autoremove
>> BackBox restore desktop
>> Lots of reboots because the windows eventually fill the whole screen and
>> the top one is the last program launched.
> Removing all the gambas repos and updating and rebooting
> rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
> 
>>
>> Some of my ideas
>> ----------------
>> Fucked up (sorry incompatible) graphics libraries.
>>
What seemed to help
-------------------
sudo apt-get install metacity - this gave be back window focus and bring
to top as well as window decoration (although ugly/basic) and context
menus, keyboard short cuts, and working firefox/thunderbird text menus.

Can anyone explain what might have happened ?





From dosida at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 13:04:48 2014
From: dosida at ...626... (Dimitris Anogiatis)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:04:48 -0600
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541AAB09.7020708@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...> <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>
	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...> <20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>
	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...> <5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
	<541A0827.7030109@...626...>
	<541A13A3.2090901@...1...>
	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...> <541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>
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	<CAFJMe7Q+e7hWuK3msOF8tcKB505ZWQL1fS5EVk_MRo5=3AF4CQ@...627...>
	<541A9A06.3050906@...3375...> <541A9EA3.50903@...3375...>
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/me scratches head... Ubuntu 12.04LTS with metacity and gnome2? I thought
Ubuntu switched to Unity a LOOONG time ago or am I missing something here?

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:

> >>> Some of the symptoms
> >>> --------------------
> >>>
> >>> (1) System wide keyboard short cuts all fucked up.
> >>> (2) No Window decoration.
> >>> (3) Window layering, focus, bring to top - knackered.
> >>> (4) Default position on window launch not what it used to be.
> >>> (5) Thunderbird text menus not working.
> >> (6) Firefox text menus not working
> >> (7) Right Click context menus not working
> >> (8) Desktop Panels not on top
> >>
> >> What I have tried without success
> >> ---------------------------------
> >> sudo apt-get purge gambas
> >> sudo apt-get autoremove
> >> BackBox restore desktop
> >> Lots of reboots because the windows eventually fill the whole screen and
> >> the top one is the last program launched.
> > Removing all the gambas repos and updating and rebooting
> > rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
> >
> >>
> >> Some of my ideas
> >> ----------------
> >> Fucked up (sorry incompatible) graphics libraries.
> >>
> What seemed to help
> -------------------
> sudo apt-get install metacity - this gave be back window focus and bring
> to top as well as window decoration (although ugly/basic) and context
> menus, keyboard short cuts, and working firefox/thunderbird text menus.
>
> Can anyone explain what might have happened ?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 13:07:42 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:07:42 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541AAB09.7020708@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...> <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>
	<5419E3AD.9040306@...3375...> <20140917195133.GH1120@...2774...>
	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...> <5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
	<541A0827.7030109@...626...> <541A13A3.2090901@...1...>
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	<541A9A06.3050906@...3375...> <541A9EA3.50903@...3375...>
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Message-ID: <CAFJMe7TA4t2upE1xC6K1cUv8Kynt8x5SUzENsMbYfrTDfysYOA@...627...>

John, not to offense, but your messages are mess. What is your distro,
Ubuntu or BackBox? Why metacity?? Neither of them uses metacity.


Jussi

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:51 PM, John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:

> >>> Some of the symptoms
> >>> --------------------
> >>>
> >>> (1) System wide keyboard short cuts all fucked up.
> >>> (2) No Window decoration.
> >>> (3) Window layering, focus, bring to top - knackered.
> >>> (4) Default position on window launch not what it used to be.
> >>> (5) Thunderbird text menus not working.
> >> (6) Firefox text menus not working
> >> (7) Right Click context menus not working
> >> (8) Desktop Panels not on top
> >>
> >> What I have tried without success
> >> ---------------------------------
> >> sudo apt-get purge gambas
> >> sudo apt-get autoremove
> >> BackBox restore desktop
> >> Lots of reboots because the windows eventually fill the whole screen and
> >> the top one is the last program launched.
> > Removing all the gambas repos and updating and rebooting
> > rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
> >
> >>
> >> Some of my ideas
> >> ----------------
> >> Fucked up (sorry incompatible) graphics libraries.
> >>
> What seemed to help
> -------------------
> sudo apt-get install metacity - this gave be back window focus and bring
> to top as well as window decoration (although ugly/basic) and context
> menus, keyboard short cuts, and working firefox/thunderbird text menus.
>
> Can anyone explain what might have happened ?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 13:13:06 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:13:06 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7TA4t2upE1xC6K1cUv8Kynt8x5SUzENsMbYfrTDfysYOA@...627...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...> <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>
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	<20140917195803.GI1120@...2774...> <5419F00B.3080005@...3375...>
	<541A0827.7030109@...626...> <541A13A3.2090901@...1...>
	<541A2516.7060301@...3375...> <541A26CE.2030208@...3375...>
	<541A29B5.10709@...3375...> <541A2B9D.9010409@...3375...>
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	<541A9A06.3050906@...3375...> <541A9EA3.50903@...3375...>
	<541AA28C.9060004@...3375...> <541AAB09.7020708@...3375...>
	<CAFJMe7TA4t2upE1xC6K1cUv8Kynt8x5SUzENsMbYfrTDfysYOA@...627...>
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If you use BackBox, uninstall metacity and try to delete ~/.cache/sessions.
Assuming you still have xfwm4 installed.


Jussi

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>
wrote:

> John, not to offense, but your messages are mess. What is your distro,
> Ubuntu or BackBox? Why metacity?? Neither of them uses metacity.
>
>
> Jussi
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:51 PM, John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:
>
>> >>> Some of the symptoms
>> >>> --------------------
>> >>>
>> >>> (1) System wide keyboard short cuts all fucked up.
>> >>> (2) No Window decoration.
>> >>> (3) Window layering, focus, bring to top - knackered.
>> >>> (4) Default position on window launch not what it used to be.
>> >>> (5) Thunderbird text menus not working.
>> >> (6) Firefox text menus not working
>> >> (7) Right Click context menus not working
>> >> (8) Desktop Panels not on top
>> >>
>> >> What I have tried without success
>> >> ---------------------------------
>> >> sudo apt-get purge gambas
>> >> sudo apt-get autoremove
>> >> BackBox restore desktop
>> >> Lots of reboots because the windows eventually fill the whole screen
>> and
>> >> the top one is the last program launched.
>> > Removing all the gambas repos and updating and rebooting
>> > rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Some of my ideas
>> >> ----------------
>> >> Fucked up (sorry incompatible) graphics libraries.
>> >>
>> What seemed to help
>> -------------------
>> sudo apt-get install metacity - this gave be back window focus and bring
>> to top as well as window decoration (although ugly/basic) and context
>> menus, keyboard short cuts, and working firefox/thunderbird text menus.
>>
>> Can anyone explain what might have happened ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Manually upgrade your production database.
>> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
>> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>>
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>
>


From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 14:01:51 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:01:51 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <CACMvmEBvc9-CYPC1wwGTqKya+7Sf7Xuc9te+cZ5pbT1tvS591Q@...627...>
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> /me scratches head... Ubuntu 12.04LTS with metacity and gnome2? I thought
> Ubuntu switched to Unity a LOOONG time ago or am I missing something here?
The distro is BackBox 3.13 which is Ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS with a light front
end instead of all that unity bloatware.



From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 14:13:23 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:13:23 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7TA4t2upE1xC6K1cUv8Kynt8x5SUzENsMbYfrTDfysYOA@...627...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...>
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> John, not to offense, but your messages are mess. What is your distro,
> Ubuntu or BackBox? Why metacity?? Neither of them uses metacity.

Hi Jussi,
No offence taken.  I have been trying to find out why my threading is a
mess but have not got to the bottom of that yet.

BackBox 3.13 is based on Debian and Ubuntu LTS
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=backbox

Searching the net for similar problems led me to try metacity.  It all
seems to function OK now. It just looks a little unpolished.

Have you any idea how I might trace the cause of this ?

I suppose I could reinstate the gambas3 test ppa s do another rebuild to
see if there is a connection.



From taboege at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 14:15:12 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:15:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stat() Auth and Mode (misunderstanding or bug?)
In-Reply-To: <1410998978.32756.21.camel@...3024...>
References: <1410997831.32756.9.camel@...3024...>
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, Willy Raets wrote:
> On do, 2014-09-18 at 01:53 +0200, Beno??t Minisini wrote:
> > Le 18/09/2014 01:50, Willy Raets a ??crit :
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Following was brought to my attention:
> > >
> > > To reproduce make a file named test in your home folder.
> > > Create a console project in IDE with any name you like
> > >
> > > Public Sub Main()
> > >
> > >    Dim sPath As String
> > >    sPath = User.Home &/ "test"
> > >    With Stat(sPath)
> > >      Print "Auth: " & .Auth
> > >      Print "Mode: " & .Mode
> > >   End With
> > >
> > > End
> > >
> > > Run the project.
> > > Output is:
> > >
> > > Auth: rw-r--r--
> > > Mode: 420
> > >
> > > Should mode not be 644 or do I misunderstand Stat().Mode?
> > >
> > > user rw- = 6
> > > group r-- = 4
> > > other r-- = 4
> > >
> > 
> > 644 is octal. In decimal it is 420.
> 
> That explains a lot and at the same time it is confusing as I got used
> to octal representation when running chmod on linux.
> 
> I guess I'll have to rewire my brain when using Stat().Mode in Gambas :)
> 

Think of it as: Mode returns an Integer. Integers only have *values*, they
do *not* come with specific representation information, like a number base.

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 14:21:22 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:21:22 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7Rnk4eASNRK9Of8w6Uiv0-xa8XKVQUXWFoLNReZGDj-UA@...627...>
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Message-ID: <541ACE42.3040308@...3375...>

> If you use BackBox, uninstall metacity and try to delete ~/.cache/sessions.
> Assuming you still have xfwm4 installed.

Done and I do have xfwm4 installed and I am back to an almost unusable
system.



From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 17:08:17 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:08:17 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation
In-Reply-To: <541ACE42.3040308@...3375...>
References: <5419D82A.5010401@...3375...> <20140917190413.GG1120@...2774...>
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John,

We are about in the same boat but I have a few years on you in using
Gambas. I worked with a 4004 and the 74181 ALUs... I was lucky enough to
have access to a Altair 8800. Though I am 5 years your junior... The 6809
and I spent a lot of time together. I even built a 6809 emulator.

I think you will enjoy Gambas 3. While not quite Dartmouth Basic, it
retains much of the Basic language while adding many powerful features. The
object model is a bit different and sometimes seems restrictive from a
C/C++ point of view. But that usually is caused by a limited understanding
of the object model and how to work with it.

What you will find here is a lot of people willing to help you. So dig in
and enjoy the journey!



On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:21 AM, John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:

> > If you use BackBox, uninstall metacity and try to delete
> ~/.cache/sessions.
> > Assuming you still have xfwm4 installed.
>
> Done and I do have xfwm4 installed and I am back to an almost unusable
> system.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Want excitement?
> Manually upgrade your production database.
> When you want reliability, choose Perforce
> Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
>
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The correct questions however are... What will it cost, and how long will
it take?


From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 18 17:16:02 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:16:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <5419427D.1000001@...3323...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>	<5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>	<5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>
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Message-ID: <541AF732.7080802@...1...>

Le 17/09/2014 10:12, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> Den 17. sep. 2014 03:41, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>> Le 16/09/2014 17:19, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>>
>>> It really doesn't matter what project you use, as all of them fail the
>>> same way. I had Manjaro on two different PCs and the result was the same
>>> on both. Here is a slightly modified version of that project I used to
>>> show the error attached in the previous mail. (Perhaps you'll also see
>>> that because of the TrayIcon that is included in the project, you'll
>>> have to force quit the app to stop it. Clicking x just closes the
>>> window, but leaves Gambas still in running mode... also, in Ubuntu, the
>>> tray icon is not showing, however now it is showing in KDE Manjaro... I
>>> have no idea why it all of a sudden changed like that.)
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> J?rn Erik
>>
>> I know it doesn't matter, but I always need the project to reproduce
>> the same conditions as much as possible!
>>
>> Now I'm currently compiling Gambas on a ArchLinux installed (with many
>> problems) inside VirtualBox...
>>
>> But I didn't write the code that makes ArchLinux package, not being an
>> ArchLinux user, and the guy who wrote it disappeared.
>>
>> So be patient!
>>
>
> No hurry :) I am just reporting bugs I find, but I also know you are
> doing a lot, and I am in no way expecting you to fix it immediately,
> though you are often very quick :) Thanks for making Gambas Beno?t, it
> is truly a very nice project.
>
> Wishing you a very good day!
>
> Kind regards
> J?rn Erik
>

The ArchLinux packages should be fixed in revision #6487. If you can 
confirm, it would be cool.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From t.lee.davidson at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 19:24:35 2014
From: t.lee.davidson at ...626... (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:24:35 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Locating a function's source code?
Message-ID: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>

Hi All,

I am almost lost when it comes to browsing the source code tree for 
specific pieces of code.

The Gambas home page (http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html) has a 
"Browse Source Code" link, but that page only shows the latest commits. 
And, anything I do there to try to browse the tree, just seems to take 
me around in circles.

The HTTP access command there and the SVN command on the Wiki's "How To 
Deal With Subversion" page (http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/svn) both 
assume that one wants to checkout a copy of the repository. I do not.

I found that I can browse the code by converting the SVN-protocol URI to 
a HTTP-protocol URI (http://svn.code.sf.net/p/gambas/code/gambas/), and 
use my web browser to view the code tree.

Okay, good. Now where do I go from here?


Suppose I wish to view the source code for the "Hex$" function. The Wiki 
page for that function (http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/hex) does not 
give any clue as to what component or class it belongs to. A look at the 
gb component and the gb class does not reveal that function.

So, I guess it is a built-in function native to the interpreter (?). If 
I decide to go with that assumption, that brings me back to, "where do I 
go from here?"

I know that I would look in "trunk" for code upcoming in the next major 
release, and in "branches" if I want to see how the function is 
implemented in my current version. But exactly where would I look?

In "app/", in "main/", somewhere else?

And how might I be able to figure this out for myself next time?


I appreciate any guidance anyone may care to give.


Lee



From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 19:42:54 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:42:54 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Locating a function's source code?
In-Reply-To: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>
References: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>
Message-ID: <541B199E.1030704@...3375...>

Hi Lee,

I feel the same way and have experienced the same kind of inability to
help oneself so you are not alone in this respect. I have been told that
it just takes time to get familiar with how things work and how things
are done.

I intend to rectify this.

That said the community is very friendly and willing to help in any way
they can.  However the amount of email noise this generates will only
increase and go off the scale as the tool becomes more popular.

I think that the only thing stopping avalanches of unnecessary questions
by newcomers is that the newcomers are probably giving it a try, getting
nowhere fast and then leaving never to be seen again.

Best regards,

John Leake

On 18/09/14 18:24, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am almost lost when it comes to browsing the source code tree for 
> specific pieces of code.
> 
> The Gambas home page (http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html) has a 
> "Browse Source Code" link, but that page only shows the latest commits. 
> And, anything I do there to try to browse the tree, just seems to take 
> me around in circles.
> 
> The HTTP access command there and the SVN command on the Wiki's "How To 
> Deal With Subversion" page (http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/svn) both 
> assume that one wants to checkout a copy of the repository. I do not.
> 
> I found that I can browse the code by converting the SVN-protocol URI to 
> a HTTP-protocol URI (http://svn.code.sf.net/p/gambas/code/gambas/), and 
> use my web browser to view the code tree.
> 
> Okay, good. Now where do I go from here?
> 
> 
> Suppose I wish to view the source code for the "Hex$" function. The Wiki 
> page for that function (http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/hex) does not 
> give any clue as to what component or class it belongs to. A look at the 
> gb component and the gb class does not reveal that function.
> 
> So, I guess it is a built-in function native to the interpreter (?). If 
> I decide to go with that assumption, that brings me back to, "where do I 
> go from here?"
> 
> I know that I would look in "trunk" for code upcoming in the next major 
> release, and in "branches" if I want to see how the function is 
> implemented in my current version. But exactly where would I look?
> 
> In "app/", in "main/", somewhere else?
> 
> And how might I be able to figure this out for myself next time?
> 
> 
> I appreciate any guidance anyone may care to give.
> 
> 
> Lee
> 
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From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 18 19:55:11 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:55:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Locating a function's source code?
In-Reply-To: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>
References: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>
Message-ID: <541B1C7F.4000607@...1...>

Le 18/09/2014 19:24, T Lee Davidson a ?crit :
> Hi All,
>
> I am almost lost when it comes to browsing the source code tree for
> specific pieces of code.
>
> The Gambas home page (http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html) has a
> "Browse Source Code" link, but that page only shows the latest commits.
> And, anything I do there to try to browse the tree, just seems to take
> me around in circles.
>
> The HTTP access command there and the SVN command on the Wiki's "How To
> Deal With Subversion" page (http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/svn) both
> assume that one wants to checkout a copy of the repository. I do not.
>
> I found that I can browse the code by converting the SVN-protocol URI to
> a HTTP-protocol URI (http://svn.code.sf.net/p/gambas/code/gambas/), and
> use my web browser to view the code tree.
>
> Okay, good. Now where do I go from here?
>
>
> Suppose I wish to view the source code for the "Hex$" function. The Wiki
> page for that function (http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/hex) does not
> give any clue as to what component or class it belongs to. A look at the
> gb component and the gb class does not reveal that function.
>
> So, I guess it is a built-in function native to the interpreter (?). If
> I decide to go with that assumption, that brings me back to, "where do I
> go from here?"
>
> I know that I would look in "trunk" for code upcoming in the next major
> release, and in "branches" if I want to see how the function is
> implemented in my current version. But exactly where would I look?
>
> In "app/", in "main/", somewhere else?
>
> And how might I be able to figure this out for myself next time?
>
>
> I appreciate any guidance anyone may care to give.
>
>
> Lee
>

All native functions are implemented in the interpreter source code.

The interpreter source code is located in /trunk/main/gbx.

The Hex$() function is implemented in the 'SUBR_hex_bin()' function of 
the 'gbx_subr_conv.c' file.

But I don't know what you want to do exactly. If you don't know C and 
don't know how the interpreter internally works without me telling you, 
you won't go very far.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From taboege at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 19:57:59 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:57:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Locating a function's source code?
In-Reply-To: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>
References: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>
Message-ID: <20140918175759.GE1080@...2774...>

On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am almost lost when it comes to browsing the source code tree for 
> specific pieces of code.
> 
> The Gambas home page (http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html) has a 
> "Browse Source Code" link, but that page only shows the latest commits. 
> And, anything I do there to try to browse the tree, just seems to take 
> me around in circles.
> 
> The HTTP access command there and the SVN command on the Wiki's "How To 
> Deal With Subversion" page (http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/svn) both 
> assume that one wants to checkout a copy of the repository. I do not.
> 
> I found that I can browse the code by converting the SVN-protocol URI to 
> a HTTP-protocol URI (http://svn.code.sf.net/p/gambas/code/gambas/), and 
> use my web browser to view the code tree.
> 
> Okay, good. Now where do I go from here?
> 
> 
> Suppose I wish to view the source code for the "Hex$" function. The Wiki 
> page for that function (http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/lang/hex) does not 
> give any clue as to what component or class it belongs to. A look at the 
> gb component and the gb class does not reveal that function.
> 
> So, I guess it is a built-in function native to the interpreter (?).

Yes, everything you find under /lang in the documentation belongs to the
language, which means that it's built into the interpreter.

> If 
> I decide to go with that assumption, that brings me back to, "where do I 
> go from here?"
> 
> I know that I would look in "trunk" for code upcoming in the next major 
> release, and in "branches" if I want to see how the function is 
> implemented in my current version. But exactly where would I look?
> 
> In "app/", in "main/", somewhere else?
> 
> And how might I be able to figure this out for myself next time?
> 

There are some places to remember:

 - /gb.*: components written in C/C++
 - /comp/src/gb.*: components written in Gambas
 - /app/src/*: Gambas programs such as the IDE, the wiki and the scripter
 - /examples: the example projects available from the IDE
 - /main/gbc: compiler, informer, archiver
 - /main/gbx: interpreter
 - /main/lib: components in C/C++ without dependencies

You are clearly looking for a built-in function of the interpreter here, so
go into /main/gbx. Built-in functions do not belong to a (real[*]) class and
almost certainly begin with "SUBR_", you find them very likely in a file
whose name contains "subr".

If you don't want to download the source tree, I cannot give you any further
advice. You need to look around and with enough memory and experience with
the files, you'll eventually find what you look for.

[*] There seems to be a formal class named "." which has each intrinsic
    function as a method (see. gbx_class_info.c).

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the people who have a local copy of the tree: do a bold grep:

  $ grep hex -IR *
  gbx_api.c:      (void *)SUBR_hex_bin,
  gbx_exec_loop.c:        SUBR_hex_bin,    /* 40 68 */
  gbx_exec_loop.c:        SUBR_hex_bin,    /* 41 69 */
  gbx_subr.h:void SUBR_hex_bin(ushort code);
  gbx_subr_conv.c:void SUBR_hex_bin(ushort code)
  ...

SUBR_hex_bin might be what you want. From there, your real journey through
the code begins. I recommend to use ctags and an editor which is capable of
using it.

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From t.lee.davidson at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 21:21:51 2014
From: t.lee.davidson at ...626... (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:21:51 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Locating a function's source code?
In-Reply-To: <541B199E.1030704@...3375...>
References: <541B1553.8070200@...626...> <541B199E.1030704@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541B30CF.3000104@...626...>

Thank you, Beno?t, for pointing me to exactly what I was looking for 
this time.


> There are some places to remember:
>
>  - /gb.*: components written in C/C++
>  - /comp/src/gb.*: components written in Gambas
>  - /app/src/*: Gambas programs such as the IDE, the wiki and the scripter
>  - /examples: the example projects available from the IDE
>  - /main/gbc: compiler, informer, archiver
>  - /main/gbx: interpreter
>  - /main/lib: components in C/C++ without dependencies

That is a good general, birds-eye guide.

And it does appear that to do any more than cursory (curiosity) browsing 
of the source code, it makes a whole lot of sense to just checkout a 
local copy of the repository.

Thanks Tobi.




From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 18 22:49:07 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:49:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] PDF example doesn't render landscape
In-Reply-To: <5417BC94.6020102@...1823...>
References: <5417BC94.6020102@...1823...>
Message-ID: <541B4543.1060904@...1...>

Le 16/09/2014 06:29, richard terry a ?crit :
> hi Benoit,
>
> I've posted this to the list before and got no response from the list.
>
> The pdf sample dosn't render landscape pdf's such as the one enclosed
>
> ?is this a problem of the basic  class as delcared her in the sample?
>
> Public hPdf As New PdfDocument
>
> Wondered if maybe you'd have time to include a bugfix for this in the
> next update.
>
> Regards
>
> richard
>
>

Hi,

The problem should be fixed in revision #6488.

Now the initial document rotation is taken into account, but I'm not 
sure it is really taken into account everywhere it should, because I 
didn't write the component. So please report any other problem you have 
with landscape documents.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 22:57:31 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 23:57:31 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Locating a function's source code?
In-Reply-To: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>
References: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7SXZjDkpfeK-wy32156+1yi4t9YboYPH_x+UxgqpTY=uA@...627...>

> The Gambas home page (http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html) has a
> "Browse Source Code" link, but that page only shows the latest commits.
> And, anything I do there to try to browse the tree, just seems to take
> me around in circles.
>

The Browse Source Code feature works perfectly here. Just click on the file
name, not on the commit number, and you will see the code.
Here is the code you were looking for, by using the feature:
http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code/HEAD/tree/gambas/trunk/main/gbx/gbx_subr_conv.c


Jussi


From jleake at ...3375...  Thu Sep 18 23:06:31 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:06:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Locating a function's source code?
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7SXZjDkpfeK-wy32156+1yi4t9YboYPH_x+UxgqpTY=uA@...627...>
References: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>
	<CAFJMe7SXZjDkpfeK-wy32156+1yi4t9YboYPH_x+UxgqpTY=uA@...627...>
Message-ID: <541B4957.8070402@...3375...>

Hi Jussi,
I too am interested in this.  How do you get from wishing to find out
about Hex$ to the url

> http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code/HEAD/tree/gambas/trunk/main/gbx/gbx_subr_conv.c

Best regards,
John Leake



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Thu Sep 18 23:32:27 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 00:32:27 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Locating a function's source code?
In-Reply-To: <541B4957.8070402@...3375...>
References: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>
	<CAFJMe7SXZjDkpfeK-wy32156+1yi4t9YboYPH_x+UxgqpTY=uA@...627...>
	<541B4957.8070402@...3375...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7RtVb36pwHAi=ErFYEZTfwa6703Nq8ZgMufqxMSX01T2g@...627...>

Sorry to disappoint, but as far as I know the browsing feature doesn't have
search. It's only for browsing.
But like Tobias already said gbx stands for the interpreter ( you can also
find it here: http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/architecture.html ), and the
file names are pretty intuitive. Rest is just clicking.

I highly recommend to download the source code and use grep or other means
to search what you need to find.


Jussi


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:06 AM, John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:

> Hi Jussi,
> I too am interested in this.  How do you get from wishing to find out
> about Hex$ to the url
>
> >
> http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code/HEAD/tree/gambas/trunk/main/gbx/gbx_subr_conv.c
>
> Best regards,
> John Leake
>
>
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From rterry at ...1823...  Thu Sep 18 23:56:36 2014
From: rterry at ...1823... (richard terry)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 07:56:36 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] PDF example doesn't render landscape
In-Reply-To: <541B4543.1060904@...1...>
References: <5417BC94.6020102@...1823...>
	<541B4543.1060904@...1...>
Message-ID: <541B5514.6030509@...1823...>

On 19/09/14 06:49, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 16/09/2014 06:29, richard terry a ?crit :
>> hi Benoit,
>>
>> I've posted this to the list before and got no response from the list.
>>
>> The pdf sample dosn't render landscape pdf's such as the one enclosed
>>
>> ?is this a problem of the basic  class as delcared her in the sample?
>>
>> Public hPdf As New PdfDocument
>>
>> Wondered if maybe you'd have time to include a bugfix for this in the
>> next update.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> richard
>>
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> The problem should be fixed in revision #6488.
>
> Now the initial document rotation is taken into account, but I'm not 
> sure it is really taken into account everywhere it should, because I 
> didn't write the component. So please report any other problem you 
> have with landscape documents.
>
> Regards,
>
Thanks for taking the time to do this, I'll have to wait until it 
filters into stable as I don't use the development versions

Richard




From t.lee.davidson at ...626...  Fri Sep 19 01:30:35 2014
From: t.lee.davidson at ...626... (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:30:35 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Locating a function's source code?
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7SXZjDkpfeK-wy32156+1yi4t9YboYPH_x+UxgqpTY=uA@...627...>
References: <541B1553.8070200@...626...>
	<CAFJMe7SXZjDkpfeK-wy32156+1yi4t9YboYPH_x+UxgqpTY=uA@...627...>
Message-ID: <541B6B1B.5080706@...626...>

Thanks, Jussi. It does indeed work perfectly ... once one knows how to 
use it. In my case, I did not understand the column heading, "File"; in 
that it could also mean a directory of files (in the tree).


On 09/18/2014 04:57 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>> The Gambas home page (http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html) has a
>> "Browse Source Code" link, but that page only shows the latest commits.
>> And, anything I do there to try to browse the tree, just seems to take
>> me around in circles.
>>
>
> The Browse Source Code feature works perfectly here. Just click on the file
> name, not on the commit number, and you will see the code.
> Here is the code you were looking for, by using the feature:
> http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code/HEAD/tree/gambas/trunk/main/gbx/gbx_subr_conv.c
>
>
> Jussi
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From willy at ...2734...  Fri Sep 19 02:42:35 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 02:42:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Stat() Auth and Mode (misunderstanding or bug?)
In-Reply-To: <20140918121512.GA1080@...2774...>
References: <1410997831.32756.9.camel@...3024...>
	<541A1EF2.6010305@...1...>
	<1410998978.32756.21.camel@...3024...> <20140918121512.GA1080@...2774...>
Message-ID: <1411087355.2953.62.camel@...3024...>

On do, 2014-09-18 at 14:15 +0200, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, Willy Raets wrote:
> > On do, 2014-09-18 at 01:53 +0200, Beno??t Minisini wrote:
> > > Le 18/09/2014 01:50, Willy Raets a ??crit :
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Following was brought to my attention:
> > > >
> > > > To reproduce make a file named test in your home folder.
> > > > Create a console project in IDE with any name you like
> > > >
> > > > Public Sub Main()
> > > >
> > > >    Dim sPath As String
> > > >    sPath = User.Home &/ "test"
> > > >    With Stat(sPath)
> > > >      Print "Auth: " & .Auth
> > > >      Print "Mode: " & .Mode
> > > >   End With
> > > >
> > > > End
> > > >
> > > > Run the project.
> > > > Output is:
> > > >
> > > > Auth: rw-r--r--
> > > > Mode: 420
> > > >
> > > > Should mode not be 644 or do I misunderstand Stat().Mode?
> > > >
> > > > user rw- = 6
> > > > group r-- = 4
> > > > other r-- = 4
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 644 is octal. In decimal it is 420.
> > 
> > That explains a lot and at the same time it is confusing as I got used
> > to octal representation when running chmod on linux.
> > 
> > I guess I'll have to rewire my brain when using Stat().Mode in Gambas :)
> > 
> 
> Think of it as: Mode returns an Integer. Integers only have *values*, they
> do *not* come with specific representation information, like a number base.

Here is a function that converts a decimal to octal and returns it as an
Integer :)
Isn't that what we can do with Gambas ;)

Just copy/paste into an empty console project, run the project and sit
back and enjoy the mode looking familiar to CHMOD in linux :)

=== THE CODE ========================

'Function: Octal
'Description: Convert decimal to octal
'Author: W.J.L. Raets
'License: GNU - GPL version 3

Public Sub Main()

  Dim sPath As String
  sPath = User.Home
  Print "Path: " & sPath
  With Stat(sPath)
    Print "Auth: " & .Auth
    Print "Mode: " & Octal(.Mode)
  End With

Private Function Octal(Decimal As String) As Integer
  
  Dim iPos, iX, iTot As Integer
  Dim sTot As String
  iTot = 0
  If Len(Decimal) <> 0 Then
    iPos = Val(Decimal)
    For iX = 1 To Len(Decimal)
      iTot = iPos / 8 ^ (Len(Decimal) - iX)
      iPos = iPos - 8 ^ (Len(Decimal) - iX) * iTot
      sTot &= iTot
    Next
  Else
    sTot = "0"
  Endif
  Return Val(sTot)
  
End

=== END CODE ========================

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From gambas at ...2524...  Fri Sep 19 04:20:22 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 02:20:22 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 559 in gambas: default charset is not
	unicode
In-Reply-To: <1-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <1-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <2-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>


Comment #2 on issue 559 by adamn... at ...626...: default charset is not  
unicode
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=559

For postgesql:
CREATE DATABASE testcharset
   WITH ENCODING='UTF8'
        OWNER=<user>
        LC_COLLATE='POSIX' /* or LC_COLLATE='C'
        CONNECTION LIMIT=-1;

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From t.lee.davidson at ...626...  Fri Sep 19 06:49:50 2014
From: t.lee.davidson at ...626... (T Lee Davidson)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 00:49:50 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Locating a function's source code?
In-Reply-To: <20140918175759.GE1080@...2774...>
References: <541B1553.8070200@...626...> <20140918175759.GE1080@...2774...>
Message-ID: <541BB5EE.6010505@...626...>

I have registered an account on the Wiki and now need to get a handle on 
the wiki syntax, so....

On 09/18/2014 01:57 PM, Tobias Boege wrote:
> Everything you find under /lang in the documentation belongs to the
> language, which means that it's built into the interpreter.


> There are some places to remember:
>
>   - /gb.*: components written in C/C++
>   - /comp/src/gb.*: components written in Gambas
>   - /app/src/*: Gambas programs such as the IDE, the wiki and the scripter
>   - /examples: the example projects available from the IDE
>   - /main/gbc: compiler, informer, archiver
>   - /main/gbx: interpreter
>   - /main/lib: components in C/C++ without dependencies

I think the above information would be good on the "How To Deal With 
Subversion" Wiki page, right underneath, "You can read the repository 
contents from the web at this address: http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code"

What do you think? Yes? No?

There is one thing I need clarified, though. I was under the impression 
that Gambas was written in C *only*. Does it also use C++ code?





From epost at ...3323...  Fri Sep 19 08:51:56 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?UTF-8?B?SsO4cm4gRXJpayBNw7hybmU=?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:51:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <541AF732.7080802@...1...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>	<5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>	<5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>
	<54184CDF.6090101@...1...>
	<541854E5.3030300@...3323...>
	<5418E6E4.5010408@...1...>
	<5419427D.1000001@...3323...>
	<541AF732.7080802@...1...>
Message-ID: <541BD28C.9080901@...3323...>


Den 18. sep. 2014 17:16, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 17/09/2014 10:12, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>> Den 17. sep. 2014 03:41, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>>> Le 16/09/2014 17:19, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>>>
>>>> It really doesn't matter what project you use, as all of them fail the
>>>> same way. I had Manjaro on two different PCs and the result was the 
>>>> same
>>>> on both. Here is a slightly modified version of that project I used to
>>>> show the error attached in the previous mail. (Perhaps you'll also see
>>>> that because of the TrayIcon that is included in the project, you'll
>>>> have to force quit the app to stop it. Clicking x just closes the
>>>> window, but leaves Gambas still in running mode... also, in Ubuntu, 
>>>> the
>>>> tray icon is not showing, however now it is showing in KDE 
>>>> Manjaro... I
>>>> have no idea why it all of a sudden changed like that.)
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> J?rn Erik
>>>
>>> I know it doesn't matter, but I always need the project to reproduce
>>> the same conditions as much as possible!
>>>
>>> Now I'm currently compiling Gambas on a ArchLinux installed (with many
>>> problems) inside VirtualBox...
>>>
>>> But I didn't write the code that makes ArchLinux package, not being an
>>> ArchLinux user, and the guy who wrote it disappeared.
>>>
>>> So be patient!
>>>
>>
>> No hurry :) I am just reporting bugs I find, but I also know you are
>> doing a lot, and I am in no way expecting you to fix it immediately,
>> though you are often very quick :) Thanks for making Gambas Beno?t, it
>> is truly a very nice project.
>>
>> Wishing you a very good day!
>>
>> Kind regards
>> J?rn Erik
>>
>
> The ArchLinux packages should be fixed in revision #6487. If you can 
> confirm, it would be cool.
>
> Regards,
>

Now, I can't compile Gambas any longer. Last successful compile was 
about a week ago. Has there been any new dependencies added recently?

Kind regards
J?rn Erik

checking for libintl headers... ./configure: line 17183: cd: 
/home/myUser/Programmering/Gambas: No such file or directory
/usr/include/
checking for libintl libraries... no
configure: WARNING: Unable to find file: libintl.so
./configure: line 17340: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED': Permission denied
touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED.libintl': Permission denied
configure: WARNING: This library may be located inside the system C library
./configure: line 17398: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
checking for libiconv headers... /usr/include/
checking for libiconv libraries... no
configure: WARNING: Unable to find file: libiconv.so
./configure: line 17675: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED': Permission denied
touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED.libiconv': Permission denied
configure: WARNING: This library may be located inside the system C library
./configure: line 17733: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
checking for libffi component with pkg-config... ./configure: line 
18100: confdefs.h: Permission denied
OK
checking for gb.inotify headers... /usr/include/
checking for gb.inotify libraries...
./configure: line 19099: confdefs.h: Permission denied
./configure: line 19146: confdefs.h: Permission denied
checking for xdg-mime... xdg-mime
./configure: line 19203: confcache: Permission denied
./configure: line 19264: confcache: Permission denied
configure: not updating unwritable cache ../config.cache
checking that generated files are newer than configure... done
configure: creating ./config.status
./configure: line 19364: ./config.status: Permission denied
./configure: line 19378: ./config.status: Permission denied
./configure: line 19748: ./config.status: Permission denied
./configure: line 19776: ./config.status: Permission denied
./configure: line 19784: ./config.status: Permission denied
./configure: line 19817: ./config.status: Permission denied
./configure: line 19836: ./config.status: Permission denied
./configure: line 19913: ./config.status: Permission denied
./configure: line 19924: ./config.status: Permission denied
./configure: line 19935: ./config.status: Permission denied
./configure: line 20320: ./config.status: Permission denied
./configure: line 20423: conf10673subs.sh: Permission denied
configure: error: could not make ./config.status
configure: error: ./configure failed for main



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Fri Sep 19 10:49:09 2014
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:49:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <541BD28C.9080901@...3323...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>
	<5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>	<5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>
	<54184CDF.6090101@...1...>
	<541854E5.3030300@...3323...>
	<5418E6E4.5010408@...1...>
	<5419427D.1000001@...3323...>
	<541AF732.7080802@...1...>
	<541BD28C.9080901@...3323...>
Message-ID: <1411116549.4643.2.camel@...40...>

Am Freitag, den 19.09.2014, 08:51 +0200 schrieb J?rn Erik M?rne:
> Den 18. sep. 2014 17:16, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> > Le 17/09/2014 10:12, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> >> Den 17. sep. 2014 03:41, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> >>> Le 16/09/2014 17:19, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> >>>>
> >>>> It really doesn't matter what project you use, as all of them fail the
> >>>> same way. I had Manjaro on two different PCs and the result was the 
> >>>> same
> >>>> on both. Here is a slightly modified version of that project I used to
> >>>> show the error attached in the previous mail. (Perhaps you'll also see
> >>>> that because of the TrayIcon that is included in the project, you'll
> >>>> have to force quit the app to stop it. Clicking x just closes the
> >>>> window, but leaves Gambas still in running mode... also, in Ubuntu, 
> >>>> the
> >>>> tray icon is not showing, however now it is showing in KDE 
> >>>> Manjaro... I
> >>>> have no idea why it all of a sudden changed like that.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind regards
> >>>> J?rn Erik
> >>>
> >>> I know it doesn't matter, but I always need the project to reproduce
> >>> the same conditions as much as possible!
> >>>
> >>> Now I'm currently compiling Gambas on a ArchLinux installed (with many
> >>> problems) inside VirtualBox...
> >>>
> >>> But I didn't write the code that makes ArchLinux package, not being an
> >>> ArchLinux user, and the guy who wrote it disappeared.
> >>>
> >>> So be patient!
> >>>
> >>
> >> No hurry :) I am just reporting bugs I find, but I also know you are
> >> doing a lot, and I am in no way expecting you to fix it immediately,
> >> though you are often very quick :) Thanks for making Gambas Beno?t, it
> >> is truly a very nice project.
> >>
> >> Wishing you a very good day!
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> J?rn Erik
> >>
> >
> > The ArchLinux packages should be fixed in revision #6487. If you can 
> > confirm, it would be cool.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> 
> Now, I can't compile Gambas any longer. Last successful compile was 
> about a week ago. Has there been any new dependencies added recently?
> 
> Kind regards
> J?rn Erik
> 
> checking for libintl headers... ./configure: line 17183: cd: 
> /home/myUser/Programmering/Gambas: No such file or directory
> /usr/include/
> checking for libintl libraries... no
> configure: WARNING: Unable to find file: libintl.so
> ./configure: line 17340: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED': Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED.libintl': Permission denied
> configure: WARNING: This library may be located inside the system C library
> ./configure: line 17398: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> checking for libiconv headers... /usr/include/
> checking for libiconv libraries... no
> configure: WARNING: Unable to find file: libiconv.so
> ./configure: line 17675: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED': Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED.libiconv': Permission denied
> configure: WARNING: This library may be located inside the system C library
> ./configure: line 17733: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> checking for libffi component with pkg-config... ./configure: line 
> 18100: confdefs.h: Permission denied
> OK
> checking for gb.inotify headers... /usr/include/
> checking for gb.inotify libraries...
> ./configure: line 19099: confdefs.h: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19146: confdefs.h: Permission denied
> checking for xdg-mime... xdg-mime
> ./configure: line 19203: confcache: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19264: confcache: Permission denied
> configure: not updating unwritable cache ../config.cache
> checking that generated files are newer than configure... done
> configure: creating ./config.status
> ./configure: line 19364: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19378: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19748: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19776: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19784: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19817: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19836: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19913: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19924: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19935: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 20320: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 20423: conf10673subs.sh: Permission denied
> configure: error: could not make ./config.status
> configure: error: ./configure failed for main
> 

Salut J?rn Erik,

what I see is  Permission denied seams to be a Permission problem.


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From taboege at ...626...  Fri Sep 19 10:50:59 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:50:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <541BD28C.9080901@...3323...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>
	<5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>
	<5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>
	<54184CDF.6090101@...1...>
	<541854E5.3030300@...3323...>
	<5418E6E4.5010408@...1...>
	<5419427D.1000001@...3323...>
	<541AF732.7080802@...1...>
	<541BD28C.9080901@...3323...>
Message-ID: <20140919085058.GA1067@...2774...>

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, J??rn Erik M??rne wrote:
> 
> Den 18. sep. 2014 17:16, skrev Beno??t Minisini:
> > Le 17/09/2014 10:12, J??rn Erik M??rne a ??crit :
> >> Den 17. sep. 2014 03:41, skrev Beno??t Minisini:
> >>> Le 16/09/2014 17:19, J??rn Erik M??rne a ??crit :
> >>>>
> >>>> It really doesn't matter what project you use, as all of them fail the
> >>>> same way. I had Manjaro on two different PCs and the result was the 
> >>>> same
> >>>> on both. Here is a slightly modified version of that project I used to
> >>>> show the error attached in the previous mail. (Perhaps you'll also see
> >>>> that because of the TrayIcon that is included in the project, you'll
> >>>> have to force quit the app to stop it. Clicking x just closes the
> >>>> window, but leaves Gambas still in running mode... also, in Ubuntu, 
> >>>> the
> >>>> tray icon is not showing, however now it is showing in KDE 
> >>>> Manjaro... I
> >>>> have no idea why it all of a sudden changed like that.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind regards
> >>>> J??rn Erik
> >>>
> >>> I know it doesn't matter, but I always need the project to reproduce
> >>> the same conditions as much as possible!
> >>>
> >>> Now I'm currently compiling Gambas on a ArchLinux installed (with many
> >>> problems) inside VirtualBox...
> >>>
> >>> But I didn't write the code that makes ArchLinux package, not being an
> >>> ArchLinux user, and the guy who wrote it disappeared.
> >>>
> >>> So be patient!
> >>>
> >>
> >> No hurry :) I am just reporting bugs I find, but I also know you are
> >> doing a lot, and I am in no way expecting you to fix it immediately,
> >> though you are often very quick :) Thanks for making Gambas Beno??t, it
> >> is truly a very nice project.
> >>
> >> Wishing you a very good day!
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> J??rn Erik
> >>
> >
> > The ArchLinux packages should be fixed in revision #6487. If you can 
> > confirm, it would be cool.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> 
> Now, I can't compile Gambas any longer. Last successful compile was 
> about a week ago. Has there been any new dependencies added recently?
> 
> Kind regards
> J??rn Erik
> 
> checking for libintl headers... ./configure: line 17183: cd: 
> /home/myUser/Programmering/Gambas: No such file or directory
> /usr/include/
> checking for libintl libraries... no
> configure: WARNING: Unable to find file: libintl.so
> ./configure: line 17340: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED': Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED.libintl': Permission denied
> configure: WARNING: This library may be located inside the system C library
> ./configure: line 17398: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> checking for libiconv headers... /usr/include/
> checking for libiconv libraries... no
> configure: WARNING: Unable to find file: libiconv.so
> ./configure: line 17675: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED': Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED.libiconv': Permission denied
> configure: WARNING: This library may be located inside the system C library
> ./configure: line 17733: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> checking for libffi component with pkg-config... ./configure: line 
> 18100: confdefs.h: Permission denied
> OK
> checking for gb.inotify headers... /usr/include/
> checking for gb.inotify libraries...
> ./configure: line 19099: confdefs.h: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19146: confdefs.h: Permission denied
> checking for xdg-mime... xdg-mime
> ./configure: line 19203: confcache: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19264: confcache: Permission denied
> configure: not updating unwritable cache ../config.cache
> checking that generated files are newer than configure... done
> configure: creating ./config.status
> ./configure: line 19364: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19378: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19748: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19776: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19784: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19817: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19836: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19913: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19924: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19935: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 20320: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 20423: conf10673subs.sh: Permission denied
> configure: error: could not make ./config.status
> configure: error: ./configure failed for main
> 

No, these say "Permission denied" (a lot!). Something with your source tree
is not OK anymore. Did you build as root last time? The first two lines also
suggest that you moved the tree elsewhere?

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From taboege at ...626...  Fri Sep 19 11:10:03 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 11:10:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Locating a function's source code?
In-Reply-To: <541BB5EE.6010505@...626...>
References: <541B1553.8070200@...626...> <20140918175759.GE1080@...2774...>
	<541BB5EE.6010505@...626...>
Message-ID: <20140919091003.GB1067@...2774...>

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> I have registered an account on the Wiki and now need to get a handle on 
> the wiki syntax, so....
> 

... so look at [0] first :-)

> On 09/18/2014 01:57 PM, Tobias Boege wrote:
> > Everything you find under /lang in the documentation belongs to the
> > language, which means that it's built into the interpreter.
> 
> 
> > There are some places to remember:
> >
> >   - /gb.*: components written in C/C++
> >   - /comp/src/gb.*: components written in Gambas
> >   - /app/src/*: Gambas programs such as the IDE, the wiki and the scripter
> >   - /examples: the example projects available from the IDE
> >   - /main/gbc: compiler, informer, archiver
> >   - /main/gbx: interpreter
> >   - /main/lib: components in C/C++ without dependencies
> 
> I think the above information would be good on the "How To Deal With 
> Subversion" Wiki page, right underneath, "You can read the repository 
> contents from the web at this address: http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code"
> 
> What do you think? Yes? No?
> 

Yes, why not!

> There is one thing I need clarified, though. I was under the impression 
> that Gambas was written in C *only*. Does it also use C++ code?
> 

It has C++ where appropriate. Like in gb.jit as the LLVM interface is much
more intuitive to talk to in C++ than C. The same goes for gb.qt4 and QT4.

To have an overview of components using C++, look at:

  $ find -name *.cpp | xargs dirname | sort | uniq
  ./TEMPLATE
  ./gb.db.sqlite2/src
  ./gb.db.sqlite3/src
  ./gb.gtk/src
  ./gb.gtk3/src
  ./gb.jit/src
  ./gb.pdf/src
  ./gb.qt4/src
  ./gb.qt4/src/ext
  ./gb.qt4/src/opengl
  ./gb.qt4/src/webkit
  ./gb.sdl/src
  ./gb.xml/src
  ./gb.xml/src/html
  ./gb.xml/src/xslt
  ./main/lib/clipper
  ./main/lib/image.effect

Regards,
Tobi

[0] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/wiki

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Fri Sep 19 15:59:38 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 16:59:38 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <541BD28C.9080901@...3323...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>
	<5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>
	<5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>
	<54184CDF.6090101@...1...>
	<541854E5.3030300@...3323...>
	<5418E6E4.5010408@...1...>
	<5419427D.1000001@...3323...>
	<541AF732.7080802@...1...>
	<541BD28C.9080901@...3323...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7SvJ6bp6bkPJGUb+qvLSdzwj0shUC_1dHoA6e_=R6efjQ@...627...>

Like others have already said, it seems to be permission problem. Maybe by
using sudo in wrong place..?
I suggest to delete your source folder and checkout again. Should be the
easiest way.


Jussi

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:51 AM, J?rn Erik M?rne <epost at ...3378....>
wrote:

>
> Den 18. sep. 2014 17:16, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> > Le 17/09/2014 10:12, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> >> Den 17. sep. 2014 03:41, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> >>> Le 16/09/2014 17:19, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> >>>>
> >>>> It really doesn't matter what project you use, as all of them fail the
> >>>> same way. I had Manjaro on two different PCs and the result was the
> >>>> same
> >>>> on both. Here is a slightly modified version of that project I used to
> >>>> show the error attached in the previous mail. (Perhaps you'll also see
> >>>> that because of the TrayIcon that is included in the project, you'll
> >>>> have to force quit the app to stop it. Clicking x just closes the
> >>>> window, but leaves Gambas still in running mode... also, in Ubuntu,
> >>>> the
> >>>> tray icon is not showing, however now it is showing in KDE
> >>>> Manjaro... I
> >>>> have no idea why it all of a sudden changed like that.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind regards
> >>>> J?rn Erik
> >>>
> >>> I know it doesn't matter, but I always need the project to reproduce
> >>> the same conditions as much as possible!
> >>>
> >>> Now I'm currently compiling Gambas on a ArchLinux installed (with many
> >>> problems) inside VirtualBox...
> >>>
> >>> But I didn't write the code that makes ArchLinux package, not being an
> >>> ArchLinux user, and the guy who wrote it disappeared.
> >>>
> >>> So be patient!
> >>>
> >>
> >> No hurry :) I am just reporting bugs I find, but I also know you are
> >> doing a lot, and I am in no way expecting you to fix it immediately,
> >> though you are often very quick :) Thanks for making Gambas Beno?t, it
> >> is truly a very nice project.
> >>
> >> Wishing you a very good day!
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> J?rn Erik
> >>
> >
> > The ArchLinux packages should be fixed in revision #6487. If you can
> > confirm, it would be cool.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
>
> Now, I can't compile Gambas any longer. Last successful compile was
> about a week ago. Has there been any new dependencies added recently?
>
> Kind regards
> J?rn Erik
>
> checking for libintl headers... ./configure: line 17183: cd:
> /home/myUser/Programmering/Gambas: No such file or directory
> /usr/include/
> checking for libintl libraries... no
> configure: WARNING: Unable to find file: libintl.so
> ./configure: line 17340: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED': Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED.libintl': Permission denied
> configure: WARNING: This library may be located inside the system C library
> ./configure: line 17398: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> checking for libiconv headers... /usr/include/
> checking for libiconv libraries... no
> configure: WARNING: Unable to find file: libiconv.so
> ./configure: line 17675: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED': Permission denied
> touch: cannot touch 'DISABLED.libiconv': Permission denied
> configure: WARNING: This library may be located inside the system C library
> ./configure: line 17733: ./warnings.log: Permission denied
> checking for libffi component with pkg-config... ./configure: line
> 18100: confdefs.h: Permission denied
> OK
> checking for gb.inotify headers... /usr/include/
> checking for gb.inotify libraries...
> ./configure: line 19099: confdefs.h: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19146: confdefs.h: Permission denied
> checking for xdg-mime... xdg-mime
> ./configure: line 19203: confcache: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19264: confcache: Permission denied
> configure: not updating unwritable cache ../config.cache
> checking that generated files are newer than configure... done
> configure: creating ./config.status
> ./configure: line 19364: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19378: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19748: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19776: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19784: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19817: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19836: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19913: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19924: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 19935: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 20320: ./config.status: Permission denied
> ./configure: line 20423: conf10673subs.sh: Permission denied
> configure: error: could not make ./config.status
> configure: error: ./configure failed for main
>
>
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From a.baudrez at ...626...  Fri Sep 19 16:14:36 2014
From: a.baudrez at ...626... (Alain Baudrez)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 16:14:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translation of Gambas
Message-ID: <CAKMXj0JXhA5Xv1Ozq2ZJ8WySDVLMx0un7Qd0_XZ0mT9pL0nNMg@...627...>

I've noticed some translation errors in the Dutch implementation of Gambas
3.

Where can I find the po or or the pot-files so that those errors can be
corrected?


A.J.


From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 19 16:18:49 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 16:18:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Translation of Gambas
In-Reply-To: <CAKMXj0JXhA5Xv1Ozq2ZJ8WySDVLMx0un7Qd0_XZ0mT9pL0nNMg@...627...>
References: <CAKMXj0JXhA5Xv1Ozq2ZJ8WySDVLMx0un7Qd0_XZ0mT9pL0nNMg@...627...>
Message-ID: <541C3B49.8070509@...1...>

Le 19/09/2014 16:14, Alain Baudrez a ?crit :
> I've noticed some translation errors in the Dutch implementation of Gambas
> 3.
>
> Where can I find the po or or the pot-files so that those errors can be
> corrected?
>
>
> A.J.

You can translate the IDE directly from the IDE, as it is a Gambas project.

You must checkout the sources from /trunk 
(http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/howto/svn) and the project is in 
'/trunk/app/src/gambas3'.

There are other dutch translations in Gambas components too, the 
projects are in '/trunk/comp/src'.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From epost at ...3323...  Fri Sep 19 16:53:52 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?UTF-8?B?SsO4cm4gRXJpayBNw7hybmU=?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 16:53:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7SvJ6bp6bkPJGUb+qvLSdzwj0shUC_1dHoA6e_=R6efjQ@...627...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>	<5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>	<5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>	<54184CDF.6090101@...1...>	<541854E5.3030300@...3323...>	<5418E6E4.5010408@...1...>	<5419427D.1000001@...3323...>	<541AF732.7080802@...1...>	<541BD28C.9080901@...3323...>
	<CAFJMe7SvJ6bp6bkPJGUb+qvLSdzwj0shUC_1dHoA6e_=R6efjQ@...627...>
Message-ID: <541C4380.5000602@...3323...>

>Salut J?rn Erik,

Hei p? deg Charlie :)

>what I see is  Permission denied seams to be a Permission problem.

>No, these say "Permission denied" (a lot!). Something with your source tree
>is not OK anymore. Did you build as root last time? The first two lines also
>suggest that you moved the tree elsewhere?

>Like others have already said, it seems to be permission problem. Maybe by
>using sudo in wrong place..?
>I suggest to delete your source folder and checkout again. Should be the
>easiest way.
>
>
>Jussi

Thanks for the suggestions. This is how I've done it:

For a long time I've kept a dir where I just do svn update, ./reconf-all, ./configure -C, make
After that I would run a PKGBUILD script to make an arch package out of it. This work until last week. Then this started to happen.
I thought I'd wait to see if it would resolve with a newer code base, but it didn't. So, yesterday I deleted the SVN dir, and did a fresh checkout, but it is still the same result... I currently have no idea what it is, but it seems strange that I have permission problems in my home dir...




From willy at ...2734...  Fri Sep 19 22:24:26 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 22:24:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
Message-ID: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>

Hi all,

I have this Gambas library.
I have made sure classes have their description (using ''' at the
beginning) and public functions/methods have their description (using ''
just before the function/method)

I have this exported class named Update.
When typing Update in an application using the library the help shows up
with info on the class Update (see Screenshot01.png)

I can correctly see my info, being:
"Update provides methods for handling your application updates, version
checking,
provide online information from (rich) text files and show changelog.
This class is not creatable."

But I can also see that Gambas seems to add stuff:
"This class can be used like an object by creating an hidden instance on
demand.
This class is creatable."

Now these two are a contradictions. My help info says:
"This class is not creatable."
Gambas adds info:
"This class is creatable."

The class Update is an exported class, but all functions and methods are
Static. (see Screenshot02.png)
No instances can be made of the class nor of it's public
functions/methods.

I noticed this in Gambas 3.5.4, had a look (in VM) at an installed
Gambas 3.5.90 (#rev.6469), but there the info is the same.

Shouldn't a class with Create static NOT show the added Gambas info on
being able to be created, or am I misunderstanding something?


-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org



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From taboege at ...626...  Fri Sep 19 22:30:18 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 22:30:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <20140919203018.GC1067@...2774...>

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, Willy Raets wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have this Gambas library.
> I have made sure classes have their description (using ''' at the
> beginning) and public functions/methods have their description (using ''
> just before the function/method)
> 
> I have this exported class named Update.
> When typing Update in an application using the library the help shows up
> with info on the class Update (see Screenshot01.png)
> 
> I can correctly see my info, being:
> "Update provides methods for handling your application updates, version
> checking,
> provide online information from (rich) text files and show changelog.
> This class is not creatable."
> 
> But I can also see that Gambas seems to add stuff:
> "This class can be used like an object by creating an hidden instance on
> demand.
> This class is creatable."
> 
> Now these two are a contradictions. My help info says:
> "This class is not creatable."
> Gambas adds info:
> "This class is creatable."
> 
> The class Update is an exported class, but all functions and methods are
> Static. (see Screenshot02.png)
> No instances can be made of the class nor of it's public
> functions/methods.
> 
> I noticed this in Gambas 3.5.4, had a look (in VM) at an installed
> Gambas 3.5.90 (#rev.6469), but there the info is the same.
> 
> Shouldn't a class with Create static NOT show the added Gambas info on
> being able to be created, or am I misunderstanding something?
> 

I think you can instantiate your class, even if everything is static in
there and you have Create Static set -- the instance you get from New would
just be rather useless. (IIRC I tried that a few days ago: I tried to create
an object of a module, and it worked!) The only thing which would forbid
instantiation is the Create Private keyword.

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 20 00:09:13 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 00:09:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <20140919203018.GC1067@...2774...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...> <20140919203018.GC1067@...2774...>
Message-ID: <541CA989.1010106@...1...>

Le 19/09/2014 22:30, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, Willy Raets wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have this Gambas library.
>> I have made sure classes have their description (using ''' at the
>> beginning) and public functions/methods have their description (using ''
>> just before the function/method)
>>
>> I have this exported class named Update.
>> When typing Update in an application using the library the help shows up
>> with info on the class Update (see Screenshot01.png)
>>
>> I can correctly see my info, being:
>> "Update provides methods for handling your application updates, version
>> checking,
>> provide online information from (rich) text files and show changelog.
>> This class is not creatable."
>>
>> But I can also see that Gambas seems to add stuff:
>> "This class can be used like an object by creating an hidden instance on
>> demand.
>> This class is creatable."
>>
>> Now these two are a contradictions. My help info says:
>> "This class is not creatable."
>> Gambas adds info:
>> "This class is creatable."
>>
>> The class Update is an exported class, but all functions and methods are
>> Static. (see Screenshot02.png)
>> No instances can be made of the class nor of it's public
>> functions/methods.
>>
>> I noticed this in Gambas 3.5.4, had a look (in VM) at an installed
>> Gambas 3.5.90 (#rev.6469), but there the info is the same.
>>
>> Shouldn't a class with Create static NOT show the added Gambas info on
>> being able to be created, or am I misunderstanding something?
>>
>
> I think you can instantiate your class, even if everything is static in
> there and you have Create Static set -- the instance you get from New would
> just be rather useless. (IIRC I tried that a few days ago: I tried to create
> an object of a module, and it worked!) The only thing which would forbid
> instantiation is the Create Private keyword.
>

Indeed. I removed the constraint where a class without dynamic variable 
is not instanciable. But I don't know why I suddenly found that useful...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From willy at ...2734...  Sat Sep 20 00:17:35 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 00:17:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <20140919203018.GC1067@...2774...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...> <20140919203018.GC1067@...2774...>
Message-ID: <1411165055.2876.70.camel@...3024...>

On vr, 2014-09-19 at 22:30 +0200, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, Willy Raets wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I have this Gambas library.
> > I have made sure classes have their description (using ''' at the
> > beginning) and public functions/methods have their description (using ''
> > just before the function/method)
> > 
> > I have this exported class named Update.
> > When typing Update in an application using the library the help shows up
> > with info on the class Update (see Screenshot01.png)
> > 
> > I can correctly see my info, being:
> > "Update provides methods for handling your application updates, version
> > checking,
> > provide online information from (rich) text files and show changelog.
> > This class is not creatable."
> > 
> > But I can also see that Gambas seems to add stuff:
> > "This class can be used like an object by creating an hidden instance on
> > demand.
> > This class is creatable."
> > 
> > Now these two are a contradictions. My help info says:
> > "This class is not creatable."
> > Gambas adds info:
> > "This class is creatable."
> > 
> > The class Update is an exported class, but all functions and methods are
> > Static. (see Screenshot02.png)
> > No instances can be made of the class nor of it's public
> > functions/methods.
> > 
> > I noticed this in Gambas 3.5.4, had a look (in VM) at an installed
> > Gambas 3.5.90 (#rev.6469), but there the info is the same.
> > 
> > Shouldn't a class with Create static NOT show the added Gambas info on
> > being able to be created, or am I misunderstanding something?
> > 
> 
> I think you can instantiate your class, even if everything is static in
> there and you have Create Static set -- the instance you get from New would
> just be rather useless.

I guess it could, but as _new() isn't even in the code it would not be
very useful. So, from the point of view of a developer using the library
the added gambas info is misleading at least and in contradiction.

I'm trying to tell them to to instantiate as it is useless. Gambas added
info tells the opposite.

This is what wiki says on the subject of a static class:

"1.1. Classes

....

A static class is a class whose all members are static (see below). In
Gambas, a static class is also named a module.

A static class cannot be instantiated: it would create an object with no
dynamic variable, which is useless."

Source: http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/object-model

>  (IIRC I tried that a few days ago: I tried to create
> an object of a module, and it worked!) The only thing which would forbid
> instantiation is the Create Private keyword.


-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Sat Sep 20 00:23:50 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 01:23:50 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <541C4380.5000602@...3323...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>
	<5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>
	<5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>
	<54184CDF.6090101@...1...>
	<541854E5.3030300@...3323...>
	<5418E6E4.5010408@...1...>
	<5419427D.1000001@...3323...>
	<541AF732.7080802@...1...>
	<541BD28C.9080901@...3323...>
	<CAFJMe7SvJ6bp6bkPJGUb+qvLSdzwj0shUC_1dHoA6e_=R6efjQ@...627...>
	<541C4380.5000602@...3323...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7Sh7xyoWQ5Zbc-doZZ=cLRjHqKnbrHjZnQwz_zzn9ZexQ@...627...>

Go to the source folder and run "ls -a -l".


Jussi


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:53 PM, J?rn Erik M?rne <epost at ...3378....>
wrote:

> >Salut J?rn Erik,
>
> Hei p? deg Charlie :)
>
> >what I see is  Permission denied seams to be a Permission problem.
>
> >No, these say "Permission denied" (a lot!). Something with your source
> tree
> >is not OK anymore. Did you build as root last time? The first two lines
> also
> >suggest that you moved the tree elsewhere?
>
> >Like others have already said, it seems to be permission problem. Maybe by
> >using sudo in wrong place..?
> >I suggest to delete your source folder and checkout again. Should be the
> >easiest way.
> >
> >
> >Jussi
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. This is how I've done it:
>
> For a long time I've kept a dir where I just do svn update, ./reconf-all,
> ./configure -C, make
> After that I would run a PKGBUILD script to make an arch package out of
> it. This work until last week. Then this started to happen.
> I thought I'd wait to see if it would resolve with a newer code base, but
> it didn't. So, yesterday I deleted the SVN dir, and did a fresh checkout,
> but it is still the same result... I currently have no idea what it is, but
> it seems strange that I have permission problems in my home dir...
>
>
>
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From willy at ...2734...  Sat Sep 20 00:28:16 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 00:28:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <541CA989.1010106@...1...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>
	<20140919203018.GC1067@...2774...> <541CA989.1010106@...1...>
Message-ID: <1411165696.2876.75.camel@...3024...>

On za, 2014-09-20 at 00:09 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 19/09/2014 22:30, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, Willy Raets wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have this Gambas library.
> >> I have made sure classes have their description (using ''' at the
> >> beginning) and public functions/methods have their description (using ''
> >> just before the function/method)
> >>
> >> I have this exported class named Update.
> >> When typing Update in an application using the library the help shows up
> >> with info on the class Update (see Screenshot01.png)
> >>
> >> I can correctly see my info, being:
> >> "Update provides methods for handling your application updates, version
> >> checking,
> >> provide online information from (rich) text files and show changelog.
> >> This class is not creatable."
> >>
> >> But I can also see that Gambas seems to add stuff:
> >> "This class can be used like an object by creating an hidden instance on
> >> demand.
> >> This class is creatable."
> >>
> >> Now these two are a contradictions. My help info says:
> >> "This class is not creatable."
> >> Gambas adds info:
> >> "This class is creatable."
> >>
> >> The class Update is an exported class, but all functions and methods are
> >> Static. (see Screenshot02.png)
> >> No instances can be made of the class nor of it's public
> >> functions/methods.
> >>
> >> I noticed this in Gambas 3.5.4, had a look (in VM) at an installed
> >> Gambas 3.5.90 (#rev.6469), but there the info is the same.
> >>
> >> Shouldn't a class with Create static NOT show the added Gambas info on
> >> being able to be created, or am I misunderstanding something?
> >>
> >
> > I think you can instantiate your class, even if everything is static in
> > there and you have Create Static set -- the instance you get from New would
> > just be rather useless. (IIRC I tried that a few days ago: I tried to create
> > an object of a module, and it worked!) The only thing which would forbid
> > instantiation is the Create Private keyword.
> >
> 
> Indeed. I removed the constraint where a class without dynamic variable 
> is not instanciable. But I don't know why I suddenly found that useful...
> 
I remember it not being there (I mean the added info for a static class)
in previous Gambas version before 3.5.x

Anyway, the help info and wiki are in contradiction (see my previous
answer). Seems either one of them needs to be changed.

And since it is of no use to instantiate a static class, I would prefer
the added help info to be gone.

But I'll leave it up to you to see what is best as you have the best all
over view on the matter and maybe added it for some good reason.

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 00:38:43 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 23:38:43 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <541CA989.1010106@...1...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...> <20140919203018.GC1067@...2774...>
	<541CA989.1010106@...1...>
Message-ID: <541CB073.80005@...3375...>

> Indeed. I removed the constraint where a class without dynamic variable 
> is not instanciable. But I don't know why I suddenly found that useful...
> 
I am also dabbling with source comments and auto generated help wrt
modules in general and singleton objects.

Would the SVN commit history shine some light on this ?



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 20 01:02:07 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 01:02:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <541CB5EF.7010001@...1...>

Le 19/09/2014 22:24, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> Hi all,
>
> I have this Gambas library.
> I have made sure classes have their description (using ''' at the
> beginning) and public functions/methods have their description (using ''
> just before the function/method)
>
> I have this exported class named Update.
> When typing Update in an application using the library the help shows up
> with info on the class Update (see Screenshot01.png)
>
> I can correctly see my info, being:
> "Update provides methods for handling your application updates, version
> checking,
> provide online information from (rich) text files and show changelog.
> This class is not creatable."
>
> But I can also see that Gambas seems to add stuff:
> "This class can be used like an object by creating an hidden instance on
> demand.
> This class is creatable."
>
> Now these two are a contradictions. My help info says:
> "This class is not creatable."
> Gambas adds info:
> "This class is creatable."
>
> The class Update is an exported class, but all functions and methods are
> Static. (see Screenshot02.png)
> No instances can be made of the class nor of it's public
> functions/methods.
>
> I noticed this in Gambas 3.5.4, had a look (in VM) at an installed
> Gambas 3.5.90 (#rev.6469), but there the info is the same.
>
> Shouldn't a class with Create static NOT show the added Gambas info on
> being able to be created, or am I misunderstanding something?
>
>

Can you send your project? Normally the sentence "This class is 
creatable" is not display if you don't have a "_new" public method.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 20 01:05:25 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 01:05:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <541CB5EF.7010001@...1...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>
	<541CB5EF.7010001@...1...>
Message-ID: <541CB6B5.4090506@...1...>

Le 20/09/2014 01:02, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>
> Can you send your project? Normally the sentence "This class is
> creatable" is not display if you don't have a "_new" public method.
>
> Regards,
>

Sorry, it is displayed when the help comes from the source code! I fix 
that...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 20 01:12:33 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 01:12:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <541CB6B5.4090506@...1...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>
	<541CB5EF.7010001@...1...>
	<541CB6B5.4090506@...1...>
Message-ID: <541CB861.9040703@...1...>

Le 20/09/2014 01:05, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> Le 20/09/2014 01:02, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>>
>> Can you send your project? Normally the sentence "This class is
>> creatable" is not display if you don't have a "_new" public method.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>
> Sorry, it is displayed when the help comes from the source code! I fix
> that...
>

OK, it should be fixed in revision #6490.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 01:19:00 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 00:19:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <541CB861.9040703@...1...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>	<541CB5EF.7010001@...1...>	<541CB6B5.4090506@...1...>
	<541CB861.9040703@...1...>
Message-ID: <541CB9E4.805@...3375...>

Thank you. Should the documentation in the wiki also be updated to
reflect this new behaviour ?

On 20/09/14 00:12, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 20/09/2014 01:05, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>> Le 20/09/2014 01:02, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
>>>
>>> Can you send your project? Normally the sentence "This class is
>>> creatable" is not display if you don't have a "_new" public method.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, it is displayed when the help comes from the source code! I fix
>> that...
>>
> 
> OK, it should be fixed in revision #6490.
> 
> Regards,
> 



From willy at ...2734...  Sat Sep 20 02:14:03 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 02:14:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <541CB861.9040703@...1...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>
	<541CB5EF.7010001@...1...>
	<541CB6B5.4090506@...1...>
	<541CB861.9040703@...1...>
Message-ID: <1411172043.2876.77.camel@...3024...>

On za, 2014-09-20 at 01:12 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 20/09/2014 01:05, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > Le 20/09/2014 01:02, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> >>
> >> Can you send your project? Normally the sentence "This class is
> >> creatable" is not display if you don't have a "_new" public method.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >
> > Sorry, it is displayed when the help comes from the source code! I fix
> > that...
> >
> 
> OK, it should be fixed in revision #6490.

Thanks, 

I'll check as soon as Daily Builds PPA os updated to this revision and
report back if it worked.
> 
> Regards,
> 

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From willy at ...2734...  Sat Sep 20 02:31:21 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 02:31:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <541CB9E4.805@...3375...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>
	<541CB5EF.7010001@...1...>
	<541CB6B5.4090506@...1...>
	<541CB861.9040703@...1...> <541CB9E4.805@...3375...>
Message-ID: <1411173081.2876.91.camel@...3024...>

On za, 2014-09-20 at 00:19 +0100, John Leake wrote:
> Thank you. Should the documentation in the wiki also be updated to
> reflect this new behaviour ?

I don't think so as the fix should make Gambas confirm the
documentation :)

Modules normally don't have the _new public method. As a matter of fact
modules are static classes.

When creating a static class yourself (so not using a module, but a
class with create static, as in my case), you normally don't implement a
_new public method either.

The goal of a static class is to provide properties, functions and
methods that can't be instantiated (including the class itself, as that
is of very little practical use).

If you want a class that can be instantiated you normally use a
non-static class. At least to my understanding of the matter.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

> 
> On 20/09/14 00:12, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > Le 20/09/2014 01:05, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> >> Le 20/09/2014 01:02, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> >>>
> >>> Can you send your project? Normally the sentence "This class is
> >>> creatable" is not display if you don't have a "_new" public method.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>
> >> Sorry, it is displayed when the help comes from the source code! I fix
> >> that...
> >>
> > 
> > OK, it should be fixed in revision #6490.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> 
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From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 10:02:00 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:02:00 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Class info contradicts by Gambas added class info
In-Reply-To: <1411173081.2876.91.camel@...3024...>
References: <1411158266.2876.13.camel@...3024...>	<541CB5EF.7010001@...1...>	<541CB6B5.4090506@...1...>	<541CB861.9040703@...1...>
	<541CB9E4.805@...3375...> <1411173081.2876.91.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <541D3478.9070204@...3375...>

On 20/09/14 01:31, Willy Raets wrote:
> On za, 2014-09-20 at 00:19 +0100, John Leake wrote:
>> Thank you. Should the documentation in the wiki also be updated to
>> reflect this new behaviour ?
> 
> I don't think so as the fix should make Gambas confirm the
> documentation :)
> 
It only fixes your particular problem relating to auto generated help.

What about the quote in the docs:-

"A static class cannot be instantiated: it would create an object with
no dynamic variable, which is useless."



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 10:59:03 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:59:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Static Classes and Modules
Message-ID: <541D41D7.6030309@...3375...>

Hi All,
Could someone please clarify the characteristics of a static class.

My understanding of Static Classes from other languages is:

They cannot be created or more precisely no more than one instance of
the class can exist. This means that if a process alters the state of
the class then that changed state is seen by all other processes that
hold a reference to that class.

In Ruby for example, the same behaviour is achieved through Class
methods and Class variables ie they act on the class itself and not on
instances of that class.  Here multiple instances of a class have their
own state but if any one instance of that class changes the state of a
class variable then all instances of that class will see that change.

>From the docs;
"In Gambas, a static class is also named a module.

A static class cannot be instantiated: it would create an object with no
dynamic variable, which is useless."

So could someone tell me if a class without any dynamic variable ie a
static class, can or cannot be created ?



From taboege at ...626...  Sat Sep 20 11:22:30 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:22:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Static Classes and Modules
In-Reply-To: <541D41D7.6030309@...3375...>
References: <541D41D7.6030309@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140920092230.GA887@...2774...>

On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Hi All,
> Could someone please clarify the characteristics of a static class.
> 
> My understanding of Static Classes from other languages is:
> 
> They cannot be created or more precisely no more than one instance of
> the class can exist. This means that if a process alters the state of
> the class then that changed state is seen by all other processes that
> hold a reference to that class.
> 

That's what static means in Gambas, too. There is only the discrepancy with
creating objects from static classes of which we don't know why it exists.

A static property (in a class definition) is shared by all objects of that
class. A static method must not refer to dynamic symbols of the class, i.e.
must be executable without object context.

> In Ruby for example, the same behaviour is achieved through Class
> methods and Class variables ie they act on the class itself and not on
> instances of that class.  Here multiple instances of a class have their
> own state but if any one instance of that class changes the state of a
> class variable then all instances of that class will see that change.
> 
> >From the docs;
> "In Gambas, a static class is also named a module.
> 
> A static class cannot be instantiated: it would create an object with no
> dynamic variable, which is useless."
> 
> So could someone tell me if a class without any dynamic variable ie a
> static class, can or cannot be created ?
> 

Or you can try it out.

What I did was creating a module and making objects from it with New -- it
works, but those objects are even more limited than I had expected. In their
code, there seems to be no way to even see that they are any different from
the automatic instance (singleton). The module's code was:

--8<--[ Module1.module ]----------------------------------------------------
' Gambas module file

Public Sub Print()
  Print Me
End
--8<------------------------------------------------------------------------

and the program:

--8<--[ MMain.module ]------------------------------------------------------
' Gambas module file

Public Sub Main()
  Dim h As New Module1, g As New Module1

  Print Module1
  Module1.Print()
  Print "---"
  Print h
  h.Print()
  Print "---"
  Print g
  g.Print()
End
--8<------------------------------------------------------------------------

with the output:

  (Class Module1)
  (Class Module1)
  ---
  (Module 0x...b8)
  (Class Module1)
  ---
  (Module 0x...e8)
  (Class Module1)

So indeed, there are different objects (especially, it's possible to
instantiate modules) but "Me" inside the module code always refers to
the singleton.

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From abbat.81 at ...787...  Sat Sep 20 12:24:23 2014
From: abbat.81 at ...787... (abbat81)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 03:24:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get Count(Current_month).Days ?
Message-ID: <1411208663937-48371.post@...3046...>

Hi,

How can I get count of days in current month.year?


In terminal I use:
"cal -m 02 2012 | xargs | sed 's/ /\n/g' | tail -n 1" 

But it doesn't work in Shell "****" To ***


Thanks




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From jscops at ...11...  Sat Sep 20 12:35:58 2014
From: jscops at ...11... (Jack)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:35:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get Count(Current_month).Days ?
In-Reply-To: <1411208663937-48371.post@...3046...>
References: <1411208663937-48371.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <541D588E.3000505@...11...>

Le 20/09/2014 12:24, abbat81 a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> How can I get count of days in current month.year?
>
>
> In terminal I use:
> "cal -m 02 2012 | xargs | sed 's/ /\n/g' | tail -n 1"
>
> But it doesn't work in Shell "****" To ***
>

Salut,


for day : CInt(Now) - CInt(Date(Year(Now), 1, 1)) + 1
for week : Week(Now)

-- 
Cordialement

Jacky Tripoteau



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 11:55:06 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:55:06 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Static Classes and Modules
In-Reply-To: <20140920092230.GA887@...2774...>
References: <541D41D7.6030309@...3375...> <20140920092230.GA887@...2774...>
Message-ID: <541D4EFA.8010907@...3375...>

Thanks Tobi,
>> So could someone tell me if a class without any dynamic variable ie a
>> static class, can or cannot be created ?
>>
> 
> Or you can try it out.
> 
> What I did was creating a module and making objects from it with New -- it
> works, but those objects are even more limited than I had expected. In their
> code, there seems to be no way to even see that they are any different from
> the automatic instance (singleton). The module's code was:
> 
> --8<--[ Module1.module ]----------------------------------------------------
> ' Gambas module file
> 
> Public Sub Print()
>   Print Me
> End
> --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> and the program:
> 
> --8<--[ MMain.module ]------------------------------------------------------
> ' Gambas module file
> 
> Public Sub Main()
>   Dim h As New Module1, g As New Module1
> 
>   Print Module1
>   Module1.Print()
>   Print "---"
>   Print h
>   h.Print()
>   Print "---"
>   Print g
>   g.Print()
> End
> --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> with the output:
> 
>   (Class Module1)
>   (Class Module1)
>   ---
>   (Module 0x...b8)
>   (Class Module1)
>   ---
>   (Module 0x...e8)
>   (Class Module1)
> 
> So indeed, there are different objects (especially, it's possible to
> instantiate modules) but "Me" inside the module code always refers to
> the singleton.
> 
This is where I have a problem h and g are different.



From jscops at ...11...  Sat Sep 20 12:48:58 2014
From: jscops at ...11... (Jack)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:48:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get Count(Current_month).Days ?
In-Reply-To: <541D588E.3000505@...11...>
References: <1411208663937-48371.post@...3046...>
	<541D588E.3000505@...11...>
Message-ID: <541D5B9A.2000108@...11...>

Le 20/09/2014 12:35, Jack a ?crit :
> Le 20/09/2014 12:24, abbat81 a ?crit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> How can I get count of days in current month.year?
>>
>>
>> In terminal I use:
>> "cal -m 02 2012 | xargs | sed 's/ /\n/g' | tail -n 1"
>>
>> But it doesn't work in Shell "****" To ***
>>
>
> Salut,
>
>
> for day : CInt(Now) - CInt(Date(Year(Now), 1, 1)) + 1
> for week : Week(Now)
>

you must read  (CInt(Now) - CInt(Date(Year(Now), 1, 1)) + 1)

-- 
Cordialement

Jacky Tripoteau



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 12:51:42 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:51:42 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get Count(Current_month).Days ?
In-Reply-To: <541D5B9A.2000108@...11...>
References: <1411208663937-48371.post@...3046...>	<541D588E.3000505@...11...>
	<541D5B9A.2000108@...11...>
Message-ID: <541D5C3E.1000604@...3375...>

What about
datediff(date(year(now),month(now),1,0,0,0,0),date(year(now),month(now)+1,1,0,0,0,0),gb.day)



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 13:14:09 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:14:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get Count(Current_month).Days ?
In-Reply-To: <541D5C3E.1000604@...3375...>
References: <1411208663937-48371.post@...3046...>	<541D588E.3000505@...11...>	<541D5B9A.2000108@...11...>
	<541D5C3E.1000604@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541D6181.1050901@...3375...>

Or more concicely
datediff(date(year(now),month(now),1),date(year(now),month(now)+1,1),gb.day)



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 13:26:12 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:26:12 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas language specification
Message-ID: <541D6454.1070201@...3375...>

Hi All,
Could anyone point me to the languages definitive specification as used
by yacc and lex ?



From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 20 15:29:26 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?UTF-8?B?SsO4cm4gRXJpayBNw7hybmU=?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 15:29:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <541AF732.7080802@...1...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>	<5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>	<5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>
	<54184CDF.6090101@...1...>
	<541854E5.3030300@...3323...>
	<5418E6E4.5010408@...1...>
	<5419427D.1000001@...3323...>
	<541AF732.7080802@...1...>
Message-ID: <541D8136.5030904@...3323...>


Den 18. sep. 2014 17:16, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 17/09/2014 10:12, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>> Den 17. sep. 2014 03:41, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>>> Le 16/09/2014 17:19, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>>>
>>>> It really doesn't matter what project you use, as all of them fail the
>>>> same way. I had Manjaro on two different PCs and the result was the 
>>>> same
>>>> on both. Here is a slightly modified version of that project I used to
>>>> show the error attached in the previous mail. (Perhaps you'll also see
>>>> that because of the TrayIcon that is included in the project, you'll
>>>> have to force quit the app to stop it. Clicking x just closes the
>>>> window, but leaves Gambas still in running mode... also, in Ubuntu, 
>>>> the
>>>> tray icon is not showing, however now it is showing in KDE 
>>>> Manjaro... I
>>>> have no idea why it all of a sudden changed like that.)
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> J?rn Erik
>>>
>>> I know it doesn't matter, but I always need the project to reproduce
>>> the same conditions as much as possible!
>>>
>>> Now I'm currently compiling Gambas on a ArchLinux installed (with many
>>> problems) inside VirtualBox...
>>>
>>> But I didn't write the code that makes ArchLinux package, not being an
>>> ArchLinux user, and the guy who wrote it disappeared.
>>>
>>> So be patient!
>>>
>>
>> No hurry :) I am just reporting bugs I find, but I also know you are
>> doing a lot, and I am in no way expecting you to fix it immediately,
>> though you are often very quick :) Thanks for making Gambas Beno?t, it
>> is truly a very nice project.
>>
>> Wishing you a very good day!
>>
>> Kind regards
>> J?rn Erik
>>
>
> The ArchLinux packages should be fixed in revision #6487. If you can 
> confirm, it would be cool.
>
> Regards,
>

Hi! It is getting somewhere, but not quite there yet, it seems. I can 
now make a package, but when I try to install it (no matter which one) I 
get some error messages about the package file:
1. Missing meta data
2. Invalid or corrupt package

Kind regards
J?rn Erik



From taboege at ...626...  Sat Sep 20 15:29:16 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 15:29:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas language specification
In-Reply-To: <541D6454.1070201@...3375...>
References: <541D6454.1070201@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140920132916.GB887@...2774...>

On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Hi All,
> Could anyone point me to the languages definitive specification as used
> by yacc and lex ?
> 

I think nobody can.

But the more I think about it, it should be possible to produce those files
in less than a week...

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 19:09:41 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:09:41 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas language specification
In-Reply-To: <20140920132916.GB887@...2774...>
References: <541D6454.1070201@...3375...> <20140920132916.GB887@...2774...>
Message-ID: <541DB4D5.8020101@...3375...>

It the original files that generated the compiler are not available it
is too risky to reverse engineer them.

On 20/09/14 14:29, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> Could anyone point me to the languages definitive specification as used
>> by yacc and lex ?
>>
> 
> I think nobody can.
> 
> But the more I think about it, it should be possible to produce those files
> in less than a week...
> 
> Regards,
> Tobi
> 



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 19:11:55 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:11:55 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas language specification
In-Reply-To: <541DB4D5.8020101@...3375...>
References: <541D6454.1070201@...3375...> <20140920132916.GB887@...2774...>
	<541DB4D5.8020101@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541DB55B.5030002@...3375...>

Anyone know when the parser and compiler were last generated ?



From taboege at ...626...  Sat Sep 20 20:01:57 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:01:57 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas language specification
In-Reply-To: <541DB55B.5030002@...3375...>
References: <541D6454.1070201@...3375...> <20140920132916.GB887@...2774...>
	<541DB4D5.8020101@...3375...> <541DB55B.5030002@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140920180157.GC887@...2774...>

On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Anyone know when the parser and compiler were last generated ?
> 

What makes you so sure that the sources are generated? I don't know the
compiler at all (!) but these sources look hand-written, everywhere.

When I said "to produce [ bison/flex sources ] in less than a week", I
meant to originally write them.

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 20 20:24:46 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:24:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Static Classes and Modules
In-Reply-To: <541D4EFA.8010907@...3375...>
References: <541D41D7.6030309@...3375...> <20140920092230.GA887@...2774...>
	<541D4EFA.8010907@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541DC66E.9000806@...1...>

Le 20/09/2014 11:55, John Leake a ?crit :
> Thanks Tobi,
>>> So could someone tell me if a class without any dynamic variable ie a
>>> static class, can or cannot be created ?
>>>
>>
>> Or you can try it out.
>>
>> What I did was creating a module and making objects from it with New -- it
>> works, but those objects are even more limited than I had expected. In their
>> code, there seems to be no way to even see that they are any different from
>> the automatic instance (singleton). The module's code was:
>>
>> --8<--[ Module1.module ]----------------------------------------------------
>> ' Gambas module file
>>
>> Public Sub Print()
>>    Print Me
>> End
>> --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> and the program:
>>
>> --8<--[ MMain.module ]------------------------------------------------------
>> ' Gambas module file
>>
>> Public Sub Main()
>>    Dim h As New Module1, g As New Module1
>>
>>    Print Module1
>>    Module1.Print()
>>    Print "---"
>>    Print h
>>    h.Print()
>>    Print "---"
>>    Print g
>>    g.Print()
>> End
>> --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> with the output:
>>
>>    (Class Module1)
>>    (Class Module1)
>>    ---
>>    (Module 0x...b8)
>>    (Class Module1)
>>    ---
>>    (Module 0x...e8)
>>    (Class Module1)
>>
>> So indeed, there are different objects (especially, it's possible to
>> instantiate modules) but "Me" inside the module code always refers to
>> the singleton.
>>
> This is where I have a problem h and g are different.
>

Static classes should not be instanciable. So don't do that even if the 
interpreter allows it. It's there from the beginning, and it's probably 
a mistake.

I must investigate before doing anything, because it may be a 
backward-compatibility problem: I sometimes have to keep bugs for that 
reason, and I must wait for a major release to fix it.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 20 20:26:22 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:26:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
In-Reply-To: <541D8136.5030904@...3323...>
References: <5414B70C.5020207@...3323...>	<5414B9FB.7060208@...1...>	<5414BB7E.4000307@...3323...>	<54184CDF.6090101@...1...>	<541854E5.3030300@...3323...>	<5418E6E4.5010408@...1...>	<5419427D.1000001@...3323...>	<541AF732.7080802@...1...>
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Le 20/09/2014 15:29, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> Hi! It is getting somewhere, but not quite there yet, it seems. I can
> now make a package, but when I try to install it (no matter which one) I
> get some error messages about the package file:
> 1. Missing meta data
> 2. Invalid or corrupt package
>
> Kind regards
> J?rn Erik
>

I will try to install it too on my ArchLinux VM. Can you tell me how you 
do that? And do you have more detailed errors or just these messages?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 20 20:27:20 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:27:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas language specification
In-Reply-To: <541DB55B.5030002@...3375...>
References: <541D6454.1070201@...3375...>
	<20140920132916.GB887@...2774...>	<541DB4D5.8020101@...3375...>
	<541DB55B.5030002@...3375...>
Message-ID: <541DC708.1050501@...1...>

Le 20/09/2014 19:11, John Leake a ?crit :
> Anyone know when the parser and compiler were last generated ?
>

The compiler was written by hand. For performance reasons if you want to 
know why.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From bbruen at ...2308...  Sat Sep 20 20:49:23 2014
From: bbruen at ...2308... (B Bruen)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 04:19:23 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Static Classes and Modules
In-Reply-To: <541D4EFA.8010907@...3375...>
References: <541D41D7.6030309@...3375...> <20140920092230.GA887@...2774...>
	<541D4EFA.8010907@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140921041923.b259998e314c4e03e4a2f9f5@...2308...>

On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:55:06 +0100
John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:

> Thanks Tobi,
> >> So could someone tell me if a class without any dynamic variable ie a
> >> static class, can or cannot be created ?
> >>
> > 
> > Or you can try it out.
> > 
> > What I did was creating a module and making objects from it with New -- it
> > works, but those objects are even more limited than I had expected. In their
> > code, there seems to be no way to even see that they are any different from
> > the automatic instance (singleton). The module's code was:
> > 
> > --8<--[ Module1.module ]----------------------------------------------------
> > ' Gambas module file
> > 
> > Public Sub Print()
> >   Print Me
> > End
> > --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > and the program:
> > 
> > --8<--[ MMain.module ]------------------------------------------------------
> > ' Gambas module file
> > 
> > Public Sub Main()
> >   Dim h As New Module1, g As New Module1
> > 
> >   Print Module1
> >   Module1.Print()
> >   Print "---"
> >   Print h
> >   h.Print()
> >   Print "---"
> >   Print g
> >   g.Print()
> > End
> > --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > with the output:
> > 
> >   (Class Module1)
> >   (Class Module1)
> >   ---
> >   (Module 0x...b8)
> >   (Class Module1)
> >   ---
> >   (Module 0x...e8)
> >   (Class Module1)
> > 
> > So indeed, there are different objects (especially, it's possible to
> > instantiate modules) but "Me" inside the module code always refers to
> > the singleton.
> > 
> This is where I have a problem h and g are different.
> 
(Caveat: without knowing how Benoit did it.)
Because h and g are different. They are pointers to the heap entries for each of those objects. Even if those objects do not have any memory allocated for dynamic variable data (and are therefore "useless" in the sense that they are empty objects not useless in the sense of "incapable of doing anything useful").
In a class Me will refer to the object address in the "dynamic" heap but in a module Me will refer to the address in the "static" heap. Similarly, anything declared as static in a class will be allocated space in the "static" heap and each of that classes objects will have reference entries for those items that point to the same addresses in the "static" heap.
Anything declared in a module is assumed to be static, so your  Public Sub Print() is in reality equivalent to Static Public Sub Print() and thus returns the address in the "static" heap.

BTW this is slightly different to a singleton, in theory at least.  According to my memory, the singleton "pattern" is used to restrict creation only one instance of a certain class.  That is, there will be only one instance "allowed" in the "dynamic" heap.  The intent was to provide a way to control allocation of resources for the object.  For example, if the program needed a large resource hungry chunk of data, but that data was only used in certain cases of execution, then rather than "always" allocating space for it in the "global" memory area, a singleton class was used which was only instantiated when required (and presumably destroyed when no longer required). So, to my way of thinking, a Gambas module is not the same as a singleton. It will always occupy space when it is loaded, whether or not it is referenced anywhere else in the project.  

Anyway...
regards

-- 
B Bruen <bbruen at ...2308...>



From taboege at ...626...  Sat Sep 20 20:55:12 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:55:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Static Classes and Modules
In-Reply-To: <20140921041923.b259998e314c4e03e4a2f9f5@...2308...>
References: <541D41D7.6030309@...3375...> <20140920092230.GA887@...2774...>
	<541D4EFA.8010907@...3375...>
	<20140921041923.b259998e314c4e03e4a2f9f5@...2308...>
Message-ID: <20140920185512.GD887@...2774...>

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014, B Bruen wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:55:06 +0100
> John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Tobi,
> > >> So could someone tell me if a class without any dynamic variable ie a
> > >> static class, can or cannot be created ?
> > >>
> > > 
> > > Or you can try it out.
> > > 
> > > What I did was creating a module and making objects from it with New -- it
> > > works, but those objects are even more limited than I had expected. In their
> > > code, there seems to be no way to even see that they are any different from
> > > the automatic instance (singleton). The module's code was:
> > > 
> > > --8<--[ Module1.module ]----------------------------------------------------
> > > ' Gambas module file
> > > 
> > > Public Sub Print()
> > >   Print Me
> > > End
> > > --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > and the program:
> > > 
> > > --8<--[ MMain.module ]------------------------------------------------------
> > > ' Gambas module file
> > > 
> > > Public Sub Main()
> > >   Dim h As New Module1, g As New Module1
> > > 
> > >   Print Module1
> > >   Module1.Print()
> > >   Print "---"
> > >   Print h
> > >   h.Print()
> > >   Print "---"
> > >   Print g
> > >   g.Print()
> > > End
> > > --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > with the output:
> > > 
> > >   (Class Module1)
> > >   (Class Module1)
> > >   ---
> > >   (Module 0x...b8)
> > >   (Class Module1)
> > >   ---
> > >   (Module 0x...e8)
> > >   (Class Module1)
> > > 
> > > So indeed, there are different objects (especially, it's possible to
> > > instantiate modules) but "Me" inside the module code always refers to
> > > the singleton.
> > > 
> > This is where I have a problem h and g are different.
> > 
> (Caveat: without knowing how Benoit did it.)
> Because h and g are different. They are pointers to the heap entries for each of those objects. Even if those objects do not have any memory allocated for dynamic variable data (and are therefore "useless" in the sense that they are empty objects not useless in the sense of "incapable of doing anything useful").
> In a class Me will refer to the object address in the "dynamic" heap but in a module Me will refer to the address in the "static" heap. Similarly, anything declared as static in a class will be allocated space in the "static" heap and each of that classes objects will have reference entries for those items that point to the same addresses in the "static" heap.
> Anything declared in a module is assumed to be static, so your  Public Sub Print() is in reality equivalent to Static Public Sub Print() and thus returns the address in the "static" heap.
> 

You are right. The staticness of the function makes Me = AutoInstance seem
correct to me again. Although we shouldn't still be discussing properties of
things that don't exist :-)

> BTW this is slightly different to a singleton, in theory at least.  According to my memory, the singleton "pattern" is used to restrict creation only one instance of a certain class.  That is, there will be only one instance "allowed" in the "dynamic" heap.  The intent was to provide a way to control allocation of resources for the object.  For example, if the program needed a large resource hungry chunk of data, but that data was only used in certain cases of execution, then rather than "always" allocating space for it in the "global" memory area, a singleton class was used which was only instantiated when required (and presumably destroyed when no longer required). So, to my way of thinking, a Gambas module is not the same as a singleton. It will always occupy space when it is loaded, whether or not it is referenced anywhere else in the project.  
> 

A class is loaded when it is first referenced and the automatic instance is
created when it is first needed (i.e. the class name is used like an object),
so you are safe here from unnecessary memory allocations.

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 20 21:11:18 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?UTF-8?B?SsO4cm4gRXJpayBNw7hybmU=?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 21:11:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Make installation package fails on Manjaro
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Den 20. sep. 2014 20:26, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 20/09/2014 15:29, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>> Hi! It is getting somewhere, but not quite there yet, it seems. I can
>> now make a package, but when I try to install it (no matter which one) I
>> get some error messages about the package file:
>> 1. Missing meta data
>> 2. Invalid or corrupt package
>>
>> Kind regards
>> J?rn Erik
>>
> I will try to install it too on my ArchLinux VM. Can you tell me how you
> do that? And do you have more detailed errors or just these messages?
>

I assume you mean how to install the generated package? Just type 'sudo 
pacman -U <package-name>'.
I am on a different PC now, so I cannot provide the exact copy from the 
terminal yet, but it basically just said that which I posted, that the 
package had missing meta data and that it was corrupt. It came out in 
Norwegian, so I just translated the errors.

Kind regards
J?rn Erik



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 22:39:17 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 21:39:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas language specification
In-Reply-To: <20140920180157.GC887@...2774...>
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It is difficult to have a wider discussion on this forum without being
accused of being off topic or having to elucidate to the n'th degree why
I would want to take a particular view or stance. So I have raised one
or two pertinent subjects to assist my plans which have not received any
response.

On 20/09/14 19:01, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
>> Anyone know when the parser and compiler were last generated ?
>>
> 
> What makes you so sure that the sources are generated? I don't know the
> compiler at all (!) but these sources look hand-written, everywhere.

I am not sure at all.  It is just the right thing to do.  I do not know
any modern language that has achieved recognised standardisation by
independent bodies that did not use the formal approach to compiler design.

> 
> When I said "to produce [ bison/flex sources ] in less than a week", I
> meant to originally write them.
>

First, I am not looking to replace the compiler but I am looking for the
true syntax of the language and its grammar. If the compiler was not
generated from a formal specification then it is pretty pointless to
create the formal specification in retrospect and generate parsers or
whatever from that specification.




From bbruen at ...2308...  Sat Sep 20 23:01:18 2014
From: bbruen at ...2308... (B Bruen)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 06:31:18 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Static Classes and Modules
In-Reply-To: <541DC66E.9000806@...1...>
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:24:46 +0200
Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...> wrote:

> Le 20/09/2014 11:55, John Leake a ?crit :
> > Thanks Tobi,
> >>> So could someone tell me if a class without any dynamic variable ie a
> >>> static class, can or cannot be created ?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Or you can try it out.
> >>
> >> What I did was creating a module and making objects from it with New -- it
> >> works, but those objects are even more limited than I had expected. In their
> >> code, there seems to be no way to even see that they are any different from
> >> the automatic instance (singleton). The module's code was:
> >>
> >> --8<--[ Module1.module ]----------------------------------------------------
> >> ' Gambas module file
> >>
> >> Public Sub Print()
> >>    Print Me
> >> End
> >> --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> and the program:
> >>
> >> --8<--[ MMain.module ]------------------------------------------------------
> >> ' Gambas module file
> >>
> >> Public Sub Main()
> >>    Dim h As New Module1, g As New Module1
> >>
> >>    Print Module1
> >>    Module1.Print()
> >>    Print "---"
> >>    Print h
> >>    h.Print()
> >>    Print "---"
> >>    Print g
> >>    g.Print()
> >> End
> >> --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> with the output:
> >>
> >>    (Class Module1)
> >>    (Class Module1)
> >>    ---
> >>    (Module 0x...b8)
> >>    (Class Module1)
> >>    ---
> >>    (Module 0x...e8)
> >>    (Class Module1)
> >>
> >> So indeed, there are different objects (especially, it's possible to
> >> instantiate modules) but "Me" inside the module code always refers to
> >> the singleton.
> >>
> > This is where I have a problem h and g are different.
> >
> 
> Static classes should not be instanciable. So don't do that even if the 
> interpreter allows it. It's there from the beginning, and it's probably 
> a mistake.
> 
> I must investigate before doing anything, because it may be a 
> backward-compatibility problem: I sometimes have to keep bugs for that 
> reason, and I must wait for a major release to fix it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 

One small argument in favour of allowing instantiation of modules and "static" classes.

We have a component called "GenUtil" that contains some utility functions and data that we use in lots and lots of our projects. Originally (some time back in Gambas2) it contained a class "StrUtil" that was coded as a class and thus needed instantiation in all the client projects that used it. Some time ago while modifying the library code I decided that, since the StrUtil methods were essentially static in nature and as the class had no dynamic data, I could change it to a module.  Newer projects now access those methods via the module name as they should.  But the older projects, that instantiate the module as an object and refer to the methods via the object name still work.  I just checked and we have over 80 projects that reference that component.  I have no idea how many of them use which means of referencing the StrUtil methods.  So I would prefer that status quo remains.

In fact I would prefer that only those classes coded as CREATE PRIVATE would exclude instantiation as even though a class bereft of dynamic data or methods today may have some dynamics tomorrow and vice versa.  In short the decision that a class should prevent instantiation should be explicit i.e. via the CREATE PRIVATE command.


regards
Bruce
-- 
B Bruen <bbruen at ...2308...>



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 23:02:09 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 22:02:09 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Static Classes and Modules
In-Reply-To: <20140921041923.b259998e314c4e03e4a2f9f5@...2308...>
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Hi,

Sorry if I have mislead you wrt singletons.  I am doing some experiments
with singletons not using modules as singletons.

I have a problem with consistency. The docs say one thing whereas in
reality something different is happening.  A static class/module either
should or should not be creatable, who knows ? But for goodness sake be
consistent.

Why should a user be exposed to underlying detail of where objects are
created ?

If you can create static classes or modules and the rules say there can
only be one of them (ie they cannot be instantiated more than once) then
from the outside they should be indistinguishable from each other.  If
the language allows you probe deeper (like obtaining the address of the
object) then the results returned should be the same.

On 20/09/14 19:49, B Bruen wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:55:06 +0100
> John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Tobi,
>>>> So could someone tell me if a class without any dynamic variable ie a
>>>> static class, can or cannot be created ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or you can try it out.
>>>
>>> What I did was creating a module and making objects from it with New -- it
>>> works, but those objects are even more limited than I had expected. In their
>>> code, there seems to be no way to even see that they are any different from
>>> the automatic instance (singleton). The module's code was:
>>>
>>> --8<--[ Module1.module ]----------------------------------------------------
>>> ' Gambas module file
>>>
>>> Public Sub Print()
>>>   Print Me
>>> End
>>> --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> and the program:
>>>
>>> --8<--[ MMain.module ]------------------------------------------------------
>>> ' Gambas module file
>>>
>>> Public Sub Main()
>>>   Dim h As New Module1, g As New Module1
>>>
>>>   Print Module1
>>>   Module1.Print()
>>>   Print "---"
>>>   Print h
>>>   h.Print()
>>>   Print "---"
>>>   Print g
>>>   g.Print()
>>> End
>>> --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> with the output:
>>>
>>>   (Class Module1)
>>>   (Class Module1)
>>>   ---
>>>   (Module 0x...b8)
>>>   (Class Module1)
>>>   ---
>>>   (Module 0x...e8)
>>>   (Class Module1)
>>>
>>> So indeed, there are different objects (especially, it's possible to
>>> instantiate modules) but "Me" inside the module code always refers to
>>> the singleton.
>>>
>> This is where I have a problem h and g are different.
>>
> (Caveat: without knowing how Benoit did it.)
> Because h and g are different. They are pointers to the heap entries for each of those objects. Even if those objects do not have any memory allocated for dynamic variable data (and are therefore "useless" in the sense that they are empty objects not useless in the sense of "incapable of doing anything useful").
> In a class Me will refer to the object address in the "dynamic" heap but in a module Me will refer to the address in the "static" heap. Similarly, anything declared as static in a class will be allocated space in the "static" heap and each of that classes objects will have reference entries for those items that point to the same addresses in the "static" heap.
> Anything declared in a module is assumed to be static, so your  Public Sub Print() is in reality equivalent to Static Public Sub Print() and thus returns the address in the "static" heap.
> 
> BTW this is slightly different to a singleton, in theory at least.  According to my memory, the singleton "pattern" is used to restrict creation only one instance of a certain class.  That is, there will be only one instance "allowed" in the "dynamic" heap.  The intent was to provide a way to control allocation of resources for the object.  For example, if the program needed a large resource hungry chunk of data, but that data was only used in certain cases of execution, then rather than "always" allocating space for it in the "global" memory area, a singleton class was used which was only instantiated when required (and presumably destroyed when no longer required). So, to my way of thinking, a Gambas module is not the same as a singleton. It will always occupy space when it is loaded, whether or not it is referenced anywhere else in the project.  
> 
> Anyway...
> regards
> 



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 23:13:31 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 22:13:31 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Static Classes and Modules
In-Reply-To: <20140921063118.6fe7881bfcac6c266ea8a3a7@...2308...>
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Hi All,
It is clear that many people have a huge investment in the status-qua.
Just update the docs and say what can and cannot be compared (like the
address of the object in this case).  Then at least users are well
informed before they code and rely on what they discover through
experimentation.

On 20/09/14 22:01, B Bruen wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:24:46 +0200
> Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...> wrote:
> 
>> Le 20/09/2014 11:55, John Leake a ?crit :
>>> Thanks Tobi,
>>>>> So could someone tell me if a class without any dynamic variable ie a
>>>>> static class, can or cannot be created ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or you can try it out.
>>>>
>>>> What I did was creating a module and making objects from it with New -- it
>>>> works, but those objects are even more limited than I had expected. In their
>>>> code, there seems to be no way to even see that they are any different from
>>>> the automatic instance (singleton). The module's code was:
>>>>
>>>> --8<--[ Module1.module ]----------------------------------------------------
>>>> ' Gambas module file
>>>>
>>>> Public Sub Print()
>>>>    Print Me
>>>> End
>>>> --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> and the program:
>>>>
>>>> --8<--[ MMain.module ]------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ' Gambas module file
>>>>
>>>> Public Sub Main()
>>>>    Dim h As New Module1, g As New Module1
>>>>
>>>>    Print Module1
>>>>    Module1.Print()
>>>>    Print "---"
>>>>    Print h
>>>>    h.Print()
>>>>    Print "---"
>>>>    Print g
>>>>    g.Print()
>>>> End
>>>> --8<------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> with the output:
>>>>
>>>>    (Class Module1)
>>>>    (Class Module1)
>>>>    ---
>>>>    (Module 0x...b8)
>>>>    (Class Module1)
>>>>    ---
>>>>    (Module 0x...e8)
>>>>    (Class Module1)
>>>>
>>>> So indeed, there are different objects (especially, it's possible to
>>>> instantiate modules) but "Me" inside the module code always refers to
>>>> the singleton.
>>>>
>>> This is where I have a problem h and g are different.
>>>
>>
>> Static classes should not be instanciable. So don't do that even if the 
>> interpreter allows it. It's there from the beginning, and it's probably 
>> a mistake.
>>
>> I must investigate before doing anything, because it may be a 
>> backward-compatibility problem: I sometimes have to keep bugs for that 
>> reason, and I must wait for a major release to fix it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -- 
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
> 
> One small argument in favour of allowing instantiation of modules and "static" classes.
> 
> We have a component called "GenUtil" that contains some utility functions and data that we use in lots and lots of our projects. Originally (some time back in Gambas2) it contained a class "StrUtil" that was coded as a class and thus needed instantiation in all the client projects that used it. Some time ago while modifying the library code I decided that, since the StrUtil methods were essentially static in nature and as the class had no dynamic data, I could change it to a module.  Newer projects now access those methods via the module name as they should.  But the older projects, that instantiate the module as an object and refer to the methods via the object name still work.  I just checked and we have over 80 projects that reference that component.  I have no idea how many of them use which means of referencing the StrUtil methods.  So I would prefer that status quo remains.
> 
> In fact I would prefer that only those classes coded as CREATE PRIVATE would exclude instantiation as even though a class bereft of dynamic data or methods today may have some dynamics tomorrow and vice versa.  In short the decision that a class should prevent instantiation should be explicit i.e. via the CREATE PRIVATE command.
> 
> 
> regards
> Bruce
> 



From jleake at ...3375...  Sat Sep 20 23:16:17 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 22:16:17 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
Message-ID: <541DEEA1.7010504@...3375...>

Hi All,
Do any of you old-timers to gambas recall any questions/interest in
using the IDE to generate source for other languages ?



From taboege at ...626...  Sat Sep 20 23:34:40 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:34:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
In-Reply-To: <541DEEA1.7010504@...3375...>
References: <541DEEA1.7010504@...3375...>
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Hi All,
> Do any of you old-timers to gambas recall any questions/interest in
> using the IDE to generate source for other languages ?
> 

I do not but I have seen in the archives that *many* people where around
Gambas before I arrived which aren't here anymore.

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From taboege at ...626...  Sat Sep 20 23:40:42 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:40:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
In-Reply-To: <20140920213440.GE887@...2774...>
References: <541DEEA1.7010504@...3375...>
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > Do any of you old-timers to gambas recall any questions/interest in
> > using the IDE to generate source for other languages ?
> > 
> 
> I do not but I have seen in the archives that *many* people where around

[...] people *were* around [...]

Of course

> Gambas before I arrived which aren't here anymore.
> 
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From bbruen at ...2308...  Sun Sep 21 00:00:21 2014
From: bbruen at ...2308... (B Bruen)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:30:21 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Static Classes and Modules
In-Reply-To: <20140921063118.6fe7881bfcac6c266ea8a3a7@...2308...>
References: <541D41D7.6030309@...3375...> <20140920092230.GA887@...2774...>
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Another thing just popped into mind:

Consider an inheritance chain where at some level a class only defines static features (but inherits dynamic features from ancestral classes).

If "only static feautures" presumed "non-instantiable class"  then this would break subsequent inheritance.

regards
Bruce

p.s. I have had a bit of a look around the web and this concept of "static" = "non-instantiable" seems to be an idea of a certain North American software company whose products are of limited appeal to the majority of Linux users :-)  I might have to see if my old Bertram Meyer text book is in the attic as I am getting more and more sure that "static" means allocated at class level rather than at instance level and nothing more.
-- 
B Bruen <bbruen at ...2308...>



From jleake at ...3375...  Sun Sep 21 00:17:03 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:17:03 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
In-Reply-To: <20140920213440.GE887@...2774...>
References: <541DEEA1.7010504@...3375...> <20140920213440.GE887@...2774...>
Message-ID: <541DFCDF.1090002@...3375...>

When did you arrive and what period do you refer to ?

On 20/09/14 22:34, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> Do any of you old-timers to gambas recall any questions/interest in
>> using the IDE to generate source for other languages ?
>>
> 
> I do not but I have seen in the archives that *many* people where around
> Gambas before I arrived which aren't here anymore.
> 



From bbruen at ...2308...  Sun Sep 21 00:24:07 2014
From: bbruen at ...2308... (B Bruen)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:54:07 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] A good idea?
Message-ID: <20140921075407.b80d2fdcc4ce9951715a35a4@...2308...>

As some will know, we use a lot of third-party (i.e. developed by us) components and libraries in our projects.
 Some of these are re-usable pop-up forms to provide common features across our gui apps. Things like  "AboutMe" and "SysInfos" forms that we need to place in all our client applications.

Each of these requires that we include the component in the project properties, create a menu item in the relevant form and an event handler for that menu item.  All these handlers essentially do is create an instance of the pop-up and ShowModal it.

The other day I had an idea.  I created a virtual control "wrapper" class that takes care of the above by itself. All the coder need do is to place the virtual control on the relevant form in form design mode.

Anyway, this seems to work!  I cant see any problems and I am now looking at more complex uses of this approach.  Perhaps it might be a way to implement the IDE add-ins mentioned recently?

Here is a project that mocks up this approach in that it is totally self contained (i.e. doesn't use components or libraries). If you would take a look you'll see that the main form, i.e. the "client", has no code at all for managing the pop-up (but does have a handler for an event raised by the pop-up).

What do you think?

regards
Bruce
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From bbruen at ...2308...  Sun Sep 21 00:27:15 2014
From: bbruen at ...2308... (B Bruen)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:57:15 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:17:03 +0100
John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:

> When did you arrive and what period do you refer to ?
> 
> On 20/09/14 22:34, Tobias Boege wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >> Do any of you old-timers to gambas recall any questions/interest in
> >> using the IDE to generate source for other languages ?
> >>
> > 
> > I do not but I have seen in the archives that *many* people where around
> > Gambas before I arrived which aren't here anymore.
> > 

I thought Tobi had been around since the pre-mesozoic era (i.e. Gambas 1.0) :-)

-- 
B Bruen <bbruen at ...2308...>



From taboege at ...626...  Sun Sep 21 00:29:36 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 00:29:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
In-Reply-To: <541DFCDF.1090002@...3375...>
References: <541DEEA1.7010504@...3375...> <20140920213440.GE887@...2774...>
	<541DFCDF.1090002@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140920222936.GG887@...2774...>

On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> When did you arrive and what period do you refer to ?
> 

Legitimate questions. I joined the mailing list in 2012. There seems to be
good traffic on this list since 2003 but this apparently was pre-Gambas1.

There is no specific period I can refer you to. Whenever I stumble upon old
threads in the archives, I look at the sender names (not the message dates).

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From jleake at ...3375...  Sun Sep 21 00:36:24 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:36:24 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Static Classes and Modules
In-Reply-To: <20140921073021.7494e74afaae702f7a14e06b@...2308...>
References: <541D41D7.6030309@...3375...>
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	<20140921073021.7494e74afaae702f7a14e06b@...2308...>
Message-ID: <541E0168.1010904@...3375...>

The actual name 'Static Class Method or Static Class Variable' and the
name 'Class Method or Class Variable' are exactly the same thing.  They
are directly synonymous with a static variable within a subroutine or
function that retains its value between calls to that sub or func (ie it
is not on the stack and is not dynamically created each time the sub or
func is called).

On 20/09/14 23:00, B Bruen wrote:
> Another thing just popped into mind:
> 
> Consider an inheritance chain where at some level a class only defines static features (but inherits dynamic features from ancestral classes).
> 
> If "only static feautures" presumed "non-instantiable class"  then this would break subsequent inheritance.
> 
> regards
> Bruce
> 
> p.s. I have had a bit of a look around the web and this concept of "static" = "non-instantiable" seems to be an idea of a certain North American software company whose products are of limited appeal to the majority of Linux users :-)  I might have to see if my old Bertram Meyer text book is in the attic as I am getting more and more sure that "static" means allocated at class level rather than at instance level and nothing more.
> 



From taboege at ...626...  Sun Sep 21 00:42:18 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 00:42:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
In-Reply-To: <20140921075715.35de2c4b6ea0795bf4b30a37@...2308...>
References: <541DEEA1.7010504@...3375...> <20140920213440.GE887@...2774...>
	<541DFCDF.1090002@...3375...>
	<20140921075715.35de2c4b6ea0795bf4b30a37@...2308...>
Message-ID: <20140920224218.GH887@...2774...>

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014, B Bruen wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:17:03 +0100
> John Leake <jleake at ...3375...> wrote:
> 
> > When did you arrive and what period do you refer to ?
> > 
> > On 20/09/14 22:34, Tobias Boege wrote:
> > > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> > >> Hi All,
> > >> Do any of you old-timers to gambas recall any questions/interest in
> > >> using the IDE to generate source for other languages ?
> > >>
> > > 
> > > I do not but I have seen in the archives that *many* people where around
> > > Gambas before I arrived which aren't here anymore.
> > > 
> 
> I thought Tobi had been around since the pre-mesozoic era (i.e. Gambas 1.0) :-)
> 

Hui, I saw[0] that Gambas 1.0 RC6 was distributed at the end of 2004. I just
became 10 years old at that time; playing GameBoy not staring mails all day
:-) [ But I have to admit that 2012 - 2014 doesn't sound as long in my ears
as it feels in back. ]

[0] http://marc.info/?l=gambas-user&m=110413577521516

-- 
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From jleake at ...3375...  Sun Sep 21 00:46:19 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:46:19 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
In-Reply-To: <20140920222936.GG887@...2774...>
References: <541DEEA1.7010504@...3375...>
	<20140920213440.GE887@...2774...>	<541DFCDF.1090002@...3375...>
	<20140920222936.GG887@...2774...>
Message-ID: <541E03BB.6030507@...3375...>

Are the archives searchable in any real meaningful way ?
Or is that a silly question/obvious.  I am getting tired so please
respond as though I am a moron.

On 20/09/14 23:29, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
>> When did you arrive and what period do you refer to ?
>>
> 
> Legitimate questions. I joined the mailing list in 2012. There seems to be
> good traffic on this list since 2003 but this apparently was pre-Gambas1.
> 
> There is no specific period I can refer you to. Whenever I stumble upon old
> threads in the archives, I look at the sender names (not the message dates).
> 



From jleake at ...3375...  Sun Sep 21 00:53:29 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:53:29 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
In-Reply-To: <20140920224218.GH887@...2774...>
References: <541DEEA1.7010504@...3375...>
	<20140920213440.GE887@...2774...>	<541DFCDF.1090002@...3375...>	<20140921075715.35de2c4b6ea0795bf4b30a37@...2308...>
	<20140920224218.GH887@...2774...>
Message-ID: <541E0569.8010003@...3375...>

This is in great danger of getting off topic but holy shit. It has
certainly come a long way since then.

Who gave birth ?

When did it come under source code control ?



From taboege at ...626...  Sun Sep 21 00:57:55 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 00:57:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A good idea?
In-Reply-To: <20140921075407.b80d2fdcc4ce9951715a35a4@...2308...>
References: <20140921075407.b80d2fdcc4ce9951715a35a4@...2308...>
Message-ID: <20140920225755.GI887@...2774...>

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014, B Bruen wrote:
> As some will know, we use a lot of third-party (i.e. developed by us) components and libraries in our projects.
>  Some of these are re-usable pop-up forms to provide common features across our gui apps. Things like  "AboutMe" and "SysInfos" forms that we need to place in all our client applications.
> 
> Each of these requires that we include the component in the project properties, create a menu item in the relevant form and an event handler for that menu item.  All these handlers essentially do is create an instance of the pop-up and ShowModal it.
> 
> The other day I had an idea.  I created a virtual control "wrapper" class that takes care of the above by itself. All the coder need do is to place the virtual control on the relevant form in form design mode.
> 
> Anyway, this seems to work!  I cant see any problems and I am now looking at more complex uses of this approach.  Perhaps it might be a way to implement the IDE add-ins mentioned recently?
> 
> Here is a project that mocks up this approach in that it is totally self contained (i.e. doesn't use components or libraries). If you would take a look you'll see that the main form, i.e. the "client", has no code at all for managing the pop-up (but does have a handler for an event raised by the pop-up).
> 
> What do you think?
> 

Veeeery nice idea! It looks a bit like an hack, though, because it's not
obvious (from the IDE form editor or otherwise) what the virtual control
does. I like it anyway.

I think you could even have a "MenuMaker" class which is your VControl.class
minus the menu-specific things. You would derive "HelpMaker" from that class
which provides the necessary names, like "mnuHelp", etc. and a real MakeMenu
method (or event handler?).

For the others: there is an error "Component not found: genutil". You can
either fix this yourselves or apply the attached patch. It seemed to be safe
to just remove that component (?).

Regards,
Tobi

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From taboege at ...626...  Sun Sep 21 01:04:21 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 01:04:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> This is in great danger of getting off topic but holy shit. It has
> certainly come a long way since then.
> 

I think slight off topic is tolerated here...?

> Who gave birth ?
> 

Pretty sure Benoit did.

> When did it come under source code control ?
> 

The earliest tag in the SVN history (I don't know of any other VCS Gambas
was under) is 1.9.44 in 2006 which refers to revision 91 so there wasn't
pretty much before, I guess. You can see these in the SVN web interface[0].

[0] http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code/HEAD/tree/gambas/tags/

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From taboege at ...626...  Sun Sep 21 01:10:06 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 01:10:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
In-Reply-To: <541E03BB.6030507@...3375...>
References: <541DEEA1.7010504@...3375...> <20140920213440.GE887@...2774...>
	<541DFCDF.1090002@...3375...> <20140920222936.GG887@...2774...>
	<541E03BB.6030507@...3375...>
Message-ID: <20140920231006.GK887@...2774...>

On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
> Are the archives searchable in any real meaningful way ?
> Or is that a silly question/obvious.  I am getting tired so please
> respond as though I am a moron.
> 

In the mailing lists overview[0], you have a search box on the left or
search links (I see those links the first time, too).

But I tend to use Google and prefix my search terms with "gambas-user".

[0] http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/

-- 
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From bbruen at ...2308...  Sun Sep 21 01:18:27 2014
From: bbruen at ...2308... (B Bruen)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 08:48:27 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] A good idea?
In-Reply-To: <20140920225755.GI887@...2774...>
References: <20140921075407.b80d2fdcc4ce9951715a35a4@...2308...>
	<20140920225755.GI887@...2774...>
Message-ID: <20140921084827.09b60035d15df7e5ba297b75@...2308...>

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 00:57:55 +0200
Tobias Boege <taboege at ...626...> wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Sep 2014, B Bruen wrote:
> > As some will know, we use a lot of third-party (i.e. developed by us) components and libraries in our projects.
> >  Some of these are re-usable pop-up forms to provide common features across our gui apps. Things like  "AboutMe" and "SysInfos" forms that we need to place in all our client applications.
> > 
> > Each of these requires that we include the component in the project properties, create a menu item in the relevant form and an event handler for that menu item.  All these handlers essentially do is create an instance of the pop-up and ShowModal it.
> > 
> > The other day I had an idea.  I created a virtual control "wrapper" class that takes care of the above by itself. All the coder need do is to place the virtual control on the relevant form in form design mode.
> > 
> > Anyway, this seems to work!  I cant see any problems and I am now looking at more complex uses of this approach.  Perhaps it might be a way to implement the IDE add-ins mentioned recently?
> > 
> > Here is a project that mocks up this approach in that it is totally self contained (i.e. doesn't use components or libraries). If you would take a look you'll see that the main form, i.e. the "client", has no code at all for managing the pop-up (but does have a handler for an event raised by the pop-up).
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
> 
> Veeeery nice idea! It looks a bit like an hack, though, because it's not
> obvious (from the IDE form editor or otherwise) what the virtual control
> does. I like it anyway.
> 
Very much a hack at the moment!  In fact more of a proof of concept at this stage.

> I think you could even have a "MenuMaker" class which is your VControl.class
> minus the menu-specific things. You would derive "HelpMaker" from that class
> which provides the necessary names, like "mnuHelp", etc. and a real MakeMenu
> method (or event handler?).
>
Yes, that's what I was alluding to as the "more complex" matters.
  
> For the others: there is an error "Component not found: genutil". You can
> either fix this yourselves or apply the attached patch. It seemed to be safe
> to just remove that component (?).
> 
> Regards,
> Tobi
> 
> -- 
> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk

Oops! I just stuck that GenUtil reference in to get at the help for it while responding to another thread. It is immaterial to this thread - so yes just remove it.

Thanks for the feedback.
B
-- 
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From jleake at ...3375...  Sun Sep 21 03:12:32 2014
From: jleake at ...3375... (John Leake)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:12:32 +0100
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternate language generation.
In-Reply-To: <20140920230421.GJ887@...2774...>
References: <541DEEA1.7010504@...3375...>
	<20140920213440.GE887@...2774...>	<541DFCDF.1090002@...3375...>	<20140921075715.35de2c4b6ea0795bf4b30a37@...2308...>	<20140920224218.GH887@...2774...>
	<541E0569.8010003@...3375...> <20140920230421.GJ887@...2774...>
Message-ID: <541E2600.5050809@...3375...>

I have drilled down into the guts of Gambas and rattled a few cages in
the process but I would like to thank you all for your time, patience
and tolerance towards a Gambas newbie.

I like the IDE and what has been achieved since its inception and I
think that it holds great potential for the future.  It is certainly
(and I really mean this) the best and most accessible open source RAD
tool available today.

I am sorry if my direct approach has upset any one but that is who I am
and life is too short to bugger about with politics and egos. I also
feel a slight tide of resistance to what I would like to do to improve
the experience for newcomers and it is unfortunate (for me) that there
does not appear to be a concrete base behind the language semantic
definition. This is only a technical issue but without it I cannot see
any consensus of opinion that would prevail and thus form a solid
unquestionable reference point in any debate.

Thank you all again and good luck.




From chrisml at ...3340...  Sun Sep 21 08:55:22 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 08:55:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] DB Connection additional parameters
Message-ID: <541E765A.1010604@...3340...>

Hello,

is there any chance to add additional parameters when establishing a
Gambas connection to a DB? For instance Postgresql libpq allows the
delivery of "application_name" in the connection string and a lot more
parameters:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/libpq-connect.html


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From jscops at ...11...  Sun Sep 21 08:59:28 2014
From: jscops at ...11... (Jack)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 08:59:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A good idea?
In-Reply-To: <20140920225755.GI887@...2774...>
References: <20140921075407.b80d2fdcc4ce9951715a35a4@...2308...>
	<20140920225755.GI887@...2774...>
Message-ID: <541E7750.5050201@...11...>

Le 21/09/2014 00:57, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> For the others: there is an error "Component not found: genutil". You can
> either fix this yourselves or apply the attached patch. It seemed to be safe
> to just remove that component (?).



Or recompile the project

-- 
Cordialement

Jacky Tripoteau



From epost at ...3323...  Sun Sep 21 12:09:37 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?UTF-8?B?SsO4cm4gRXJpayBNw7hybmU=?=)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:09:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Making a simple C++ component
Message-ID: <541EA3E1.7040804@...3323...>

Hi!

I had a C++ introduction course at the University, so my knowledge of 
the language is very basic (no play on words intended :) ).

I've been looking at how to put together a simple C++ component, tried 
to get an understanding from the documentation and looking at some 
components in the svn repo. I hvave gotten to the point of making the 
"skeleton" from the script inside the TEMPLATES folder.

Now, just to get an understanding of how it is done, how can I make a 
simple component that has a property, and two methods, one for setting 
and one for getting the property's value?

Kind regards
J?rn Erik



From taboege at ...626...  Sun Sep 21 12:40:59 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:40:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Making a simple C++ component
In-Reply-To: <541EA3E1.7040804@...3323...>
References: <541EA3E1.7040804@...3323...>
Message-ID: <20140921104059.GA874@...2774...>

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014, J??rn Erik M??rne wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I had a C++ introduction course at the University, so my knowledge of 
> the language is very basic (no play on words intended :) ).
> 
> I've been looking at how to put together a simple C++ component, tried 
> to get an understanding from the documentation and looking at some 
> components in the svn repo. I hvave gotten to the point of making the 
> "skeleton" from the script inside the TEMPLATES folder.
> 
> Now, just to get an understanding of how it is done, how can I make a 
> simple component that has a property, and two methods, one for setting 
> and one for getting the property's value?
> 

If that helps you, you can have a look at main/lib/data/c_circular.c which
implements a ring buffer in gb.data and is sufficiently simple.

You normally do the following:
 1. Create your source files c_ClassName.c and c_ClassName.h (or .cpp/.hpp),
 2. Put them into your src/Makefile.am and ./reconf && ./configure,
 3. Write your code:
 3.1. You need a GB_DESC array which describes your class: you define method
      and property signatures there and link your C/C++ implementation
      functions,
 3.2. Write those functions,
 3.3. Make the GB_DESC array externally visible and declare it in your
      c_ClassName.h,
 3.4. In your main.c you need to add the GB_DESC array to the list of
      exported classes,
 4. make && sudo make install,
 5. Create a new project, add your component and try it out.

Doing that the first time is the toughest. Look at how other components do
it. Normally, if you study the process of how a C/C++ class definition gets
its way to the interpreter, it suffices to look at the files mentioned
above: src/Makefile.am, src/c_ClassName.c src/c_ClassName.h, src/main.c.

Regards,
Tobi

PS: Also, this question is more suited for the gambas-devel list.

-- 
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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 21 15:48:35 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 15:48:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] DB Connection additional parameters
In-Reply-To: <541E765A.1010604@...3340...>
References: <541E765A.1010604@...3340...>
Message-ID: <541ED733.6060309@...1...>

Le 21/09/2014 08:55, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit :
> Hello,
>
> is there any chance to add additional parameters when establishing a
> Gambas connection to a DB? For instance Postgresql libpq allows the
> delivery of "application_name" in the connection string and a lot more
> parameters:
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/libpq-connect.html
>
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>

There is no way to set these options with a specific SQL command? You 
have to pass them with the connection function?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...2524...  Sun Sep 21 17:29:43 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 15:29:43 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 559 in gambas: default charset is not
	unicode
In-Reply-To: <2-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <3-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>


Comment #3 on issue 559 by benoit.m... at ...626...: default charset is not  
unicode
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=559

Apparently there is no standard way of defining collation. Each DBMS is  
completely different from the others. I know that SQL standard is a joke,  
but I'm always surprised...

So it may not be possible to define a standard interface for that. Still  
investigating...


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From charlie at ...2793...  Sun Sep 21 17:40:58 2014
From: charlie at ...2793... (Charlie)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 08:40:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Caps Lock - Num Lock state howto
In-Reply-To: <200804031925.09264.rospolosco@...152...>
References: <200804031925.09264.rospolosco@...152...>
Message-ID: <1411314058317-48416.post@...3046...>

*I was playing with this routine and found that the following 2 lines can be
replaced by 1*sShellOutput = Replace$(sShellOutput, " ", "") iKeyLocks =
Val(Split(sShellOutput, ":")[3])*Replace with*iKeyLocks =
Val(Right(Trim(sShellOutput), 1))



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From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Sun Sep 21 19:06:36 2014
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (Jesus)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 19:06:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Caps Lock - Num Lock state howto
In-Reply-To: <1411314058317-48416.post@...3046...>
References: <200804031925.09264.rospolosco@...152...>
	<1411314058317-48416.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <541F059C.5090702@...2382...>

El 21/09/14 a las #4, Charlie escribi?:
> *I was playing with this routine and found that the following 2 lines can be
> replaced by 1*sShellOutput = Replace$(sShellOutput, " ", "") iKeyLocks =
> Val(Split(sShellOutput, ":")[3])*Replace with*iKeyLocks =
> Val(Right(Trim(sShellOutput), 1))

> --
> View this message in context: http://gambas.8142.n7.nabble.com/Caps-Lock-Num-Lock-state-howto-tp15884p48416.html

I was shocked when I realized this thread is from April 2008. I I myself 
subscribed to this list December 2008, so I haven't noticed this subject.

Also, it seems the text get messed when writing through nabble (kind of 
a web forum).

Thanks anyway, Charlie


Regards
-- 
Jesus Guardon



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Sun Sep 21 19:38:04 2014
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 19:38:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Caps Lock - Num Lock state howto
In-Reply-To: <541F059C.5090702@...2382...>
References: <200804031925.09264.rospolosco@...152...>
	<1411314058317-48416.post@...3046...> <541F059C.5090702@...2382...>
Message-ID: <1411321084.3704.12.camel@...40...>

Am Sonntag, den 21.09.2014, 19:06 +0200 schrieb Jesus:
> El 21/09/14 a las #4, Charlie escribi?:
> > *I was playing with this routine and found that the following 2 lines can be
> > replaced by 1*sShellOutput = Replace$(sShellOutput, " ", "") iKeyLocks =
> > Val(Split(sShellOutput, ":")[3])*Replace with*iKeyLocks =
> > Val(Right(Trim(sShellOutput), 1))
> 
> > --
> > View this message in context: http://gambas.8142.n7.nabble.com/Caps-Lock-Num-Lock-state-howto-tp15884p48416.html
> 
> I was shocked when I realized this thread is from April 2008. I I myself 
> subscribed to this list December 2008, so I haven't noticed this subject.
> 
> Also, it seems the text get messed when writing through nabble (kind of 
> a web forum).
> 
> Thanks anyway, Charlie
> 
> 
> Regards

Salut Jesus,

who, what, where........Why from December 2008, can't see that.
My mail says on german : 
	Am Sonntag, den 21.09.2014, 08:40 -0700 schrieb Charlie 
-- 
Amicalement
another Charlie




From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Sun Sep 21 20:18:19 2014
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (Jesus)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 20:18:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Caps Lock - Num Lock state howto
In-Reply-To: <1411321084.3704.12.camel@...40...>
References: <200804031925.09264.rospolosco@...152...>	<1411314058317-48416.post@...3046...>
	<541F059C.5090702@...2382...> <1411321084.3704.12.camel@...40...>
Message-ID: <541F166B.2020602@...2382...>

El 21/09/14 a las #4, Charlie Reinl escribi?:
> Am Sonntag, den 21.09.2014, 19:06 +0200 schrieb Jesus:
>> El 21/09/14 a las #4, Charlie escribi?:
>>> *I was playing with this routine and found that the following 2 lines can be
>>> replaced by 1*sShellOutput = Replace$(sShellOutput, " ", "") iKeyLocks =
>>> Val(Split(sShellOutput, ":")[3])*Replace with*iKeyLocks =
>>> Val(Right(Trim(sShellOutput), 1))
>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://gambas.8142.n7.nabble.com/Caps-Lock-Num-Lock-state-howto-tp15884p48416.html
>>
>> I was shocked when I realized this thread is from April 2008. I I myself
>> subscribed to this list December 2008, so I haven't noticed this subject.
>>
>> Also, it seems the text get messed when writing through nabble (kind of
>> a web forum).
>>
>> Thanks anyway, Charlie
>>
>>
>> Regards
>
> Salut Jesus,
>
> who, what, where........Why from December 2008, can't see that.
> My mail says on german :
> 	Am Sonntag, den 21.09.2014, 08:40 -0700 schrieb Charlie
>


I'm talking of the original thread, not your last post which I replied.

See that link: 
http://gambas.8142.n7.nabble.com/Caps-Lock-Num-Lock-state-howto-tp15884p48416.html

Original post is from April 2008 by Stefano Palmeri. Since I'm only 
using Thunderbird to read mail and mailing list, I didn't noticed this 
until I did followed that link. Nothing to scare about ;-)

BTW, I've tested 'xset' command and found interesting. Didn't know about it.

Regards

-- 
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From willy at ...2734...  Mon Sep 22 01:20:23 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 01:20:23 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for implementation
Message-ID: <1411341623.3278.53.camel@...3024...>

Hi all,

It would be nice if the translator in IDE could update some extra info
in the translation files (.po)

Example:
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
msgstr ""
"Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n"
"POT-Creation-Date: 2002-11-01 04:27+0100\n"
"PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n"
"Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAIL at ...513...>\n"
"Language-Team: LANGUAGE <LL at ...514...>\n"
"MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"

Po-Revision-Date could be added when saving the translation as could
Last Translator -> take name and mail from Packaging Preferences in IDE
(if available)
Or maybe this option should be a specific new Preference, as some maybe
don;t want their name and mail in the po file.

This way there is some kind of tracking on how recent or old
translations are and someone to contact who has done the most recent
translation, as it is simply added in the .po file.

What do other Gambas translators or maybe soon to be translators think
about this suggestion?

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From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep 22 04:56:45 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 02:56:45 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 559 in gambas: default charset is not
	unicode
In-Reply-To: <3-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <3-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <4-6813199134517018827-4215030808627936892-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: Fixed

Comment #4 on issue 559 by benoit.m... at ...626...: default charset is not  
unicode
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=559

Collation support has been implemented in revision #6494.

It "just" allows you to define the collation of a specific text field, both  
by code and from the IDE database editor.

In MySQL/MariaDB, if you don't define it, the default collation is used,  
which may be defined by the table, the server of the client. But you can't  
define these defaults, as that feature is not supported by other DBMS.

Another important point: the charset support is implicit: if you specify a  
collation named "xxx_yyy", then the charset "xxx" is assumed.

Please tell if you have any problem with it.

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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 22 04:59:03 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 04:59:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Collation support in database driver
Message-ID: <541F9077.4090507@...1...>

Collation support has been implemented in revision #6494, as a 
last-minute feature before the coming-soon Gambas 3.6.

It "just" allows you to define the collation of a specific text field, 
both by code and from the IDE database editor.

In MySQL/MariaDB, if you don't define it, the default collation is used, 
which may be defined by the table, the server of the client. But you 
can't define these defaults, as that feature is not supported by other DBMS.

Another important point for MySQL: the charset support is implicit. If 
you specify a collation named "xxx_yyy", then the charset "xxx" is assumed.

There is no explicit charset support otherwise.

Please report any problem with it!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From chrisml at ...3340...  Mon Sep 22 10:06:26 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:06:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] DB Connection additional parameters
In-Reply-To: <541ED733.6060309@...1...> (sfid-)
References: <541E765A.1010604@...3340...>
	<541ED733.6060309@...1...> (sfid-)
Message-ID: <541FD882.6040404@...3340...>

Hello Benoit,

Am 21.09.2014 um 15:48 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> There is no way to set these options with a specific SQL command? You 
> have to pass them with the connection function?

After I wrote the Mail I saw that there is the "SET" comand in
Postgresql SQL, with which I can achieve that:

"set application_name = 'app-xyz';"

And that works. Unfortunately I had not the time to report that in the ML.


Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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From jusabejusabe at ...626...  Mon Sep 22 10:08:16 2014
From: jusabejusabe at ...626... (Julio Sanchez)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:08:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes does
	not work
Message-ID: <CAFM-pnvMJo9QU7fXH1mqAsY1iwQL7ikeD0S+GDSyyxFKhRJk9g@...627...>

Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes does not work

We have a class that inherits from the integer class [], we call
SuperInteger, this is your code:
Inherits Integer []

Public function  higher() as integer
dim itemt as integer
dim ihigher as integer

for each element in me
ihigher = max (ihigher, item)
next

return ihigher

end


When I make an instance of the new :

dim test as new SuperInteger


It does not work this assignment:
test = [86, 16, 212, 1, 43, 18]

gambas3 says it's not the same type.
Should I working? Right?


Regards

Julio


From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep 22 10:46:49 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:46:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes
 does not work
In-Reply-To: <CAFM-pnvMJo9QU7fXH1mqAsY1iwQL7ikeD0S+GDSyyxFKhRJk9g@...627...>
References: <CAFM-pnvMJo9QU7fXH1mqAsY1iwQL7ikeD0S+GDSyyxFKhRJk9g@...627...>
Message-ID: <20140922084649.GA684@...2774...>

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Julio Sanchez wrote:
> Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes does not work
> 
> We have a class that inherits from the integer class [], we call
> SuperInteger, this is your code:
> Inherits Integer []
> 
> Public function  higher() as integer
> dim itemt as integer
> dim ihigher as integer
> 
> for each element in me
> ihigher = max (ihigher, item)
> next
> 
> return ihigher
> 
> end
> 
> 
> When I make an instance of the new :
> 
> dim test as new SuperInteger
> 
> 
> It does not work this assignment:
> test = [86, 16, 212, 1, 43, 18]
> 
> gambas3 says it's not the same type.
> Should I working? Right?
> 

No, because it is not the same type :-)

Even if B inherits A, it can be very difficult to make sense of an
assignment myB = myA because myB could reference _lots_ of other
information (which is not in the class A). What should happen to this
information in the assignment? You simply can't convert myA to the B
class.

The clean solution would be to define a static B.FromA() method which
takes an A object and returns a new B object which contains that A
object and initialises all other information appropriately.

So, you would implement

  Static Public Function FromArray(aArray As Integer[]) As SuperInteger

or something along these lines in SuperInteger. For a more concise
syntax, you may also use the _call() special method. Then you can do

  myB = SuperInteger([1, 2, 3, 4])

Regards,
Tobi

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From jusabejusabe at ...626...  Mon Sep 22 11:03:49 2014
From: jusabejusabe at ...626... (Julio Sanchez)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:03:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes
 does not work
In-Reply-To: <20140922084649.GA684@...2774...>
References: <CAFM-pnvMJo9QU7fXH1mqAsY1iwQL7ikeD0S+GDSyyxFKhRJk9g@...627...>
	<20140922084649.GA684@...2774...>
Message-ID: <CAFM-pnt3GPHhX0h6WS4mqyZWz6-qBAgydtTWZjghZ2DZaDgq1g@...627...>

Thanks Tobi, I'll try :)

Regards,

Julio

2014-09-22 10:46 GMT+02:00 Tobias Boege <taboege at ...626...>:

> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Julio Sanchez wrote:
> > Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes does not work
> >
> > We have a class that inherits from the integer class [], we call
> > SuperInteger, this is your code:
> > Inherits Integer []
> >
> > Public function  higher() as integer
> > dim itemt as integer
> > dim ihigher as integer
> >
> > for each element in me
> > ihigher = max (ihigher, item)
> > next
> >
> > return ihigher
> >
> > end
> >
> >
> > When I make an instance of the new :
> >
> > dim test as new SuperInteger
> >
> >
> > It does not work this assignment:
> > test = [86, 16, 212, 1, 43, 18]
> >
> > gambas3 says it's not the same type.
> > Should I working? Right?
> >
>
> No, because it is not the same type :-)
>
> Even if B inherits A, it can be very difficult to make sense of an
> assignment myB = myA because myB could reference _lots_ of other
> information (which is not in the class A). What should happen to this
> information in the assignment? You simply can't convert myA to the B
> class.
>
> The clean solution would be to define a static B.FromA() method which
> takes an A object and returns a new B object which contains that A
> object and initialises all other information appropriately.
>
> So, you would implement
>
>   Static Public Function FromArray(aArray As Integer[]) As SuperInteger
>
> or something along these lines in SuperInteger. For a more concise
> syntax, you may also use the _call() special method. Then you can do
>
>   myB = SuperInteger([1, 2, 3, 4])
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>
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>
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From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Mon Sep 22 11:05:34 2014
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:05:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas2 program on ArchLinux
Message-ID: <541FE65E.1060405@...221...>

Good morning everyone,

Someone here who knows ArchLinux? I have a student who would like to use 
a program I once wrote in Gambas2.

I told him to install a Gambas2 package, then try the .gambas binary 
from me. It does run like this on my own laptop, but not on his machine.

Anything special we should know about? Or is it possible he didn't find 
a Gambas2 but only a Gambas3 for his ArchLinux and just isn't aware?

Thank you for any input!

Rolf



From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep 22 11:11:29 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:11:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas2 program on ArchLinux
In-Reply-To: <541FE65E.1060405@...221...>
References: <541FE65E.1060405@...221...>
Message-ID: <20140922091129.GB684@...2774...>

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> Good morning everyone,
> 
> Someone here who knows ArchLinux? I have a student who would like to use 
> a program I once wrote in Gambas2.
> 
> I told him to install a Gambas2 package, then try the .gambas binary 
> from me. It does run like this on my own laptop, but not on his machine.
> 
> Anything special we should know about? Or is it possible he didn't find 
> a Gambas2 but only a Gambas3 for his ArchLinux and just isn't aware?
> 

Very likely. The only Gambas version in the official repositories is 3.5.4
and I couldn't find anything in the AUR. He may need to compile a Gambas2
by himself. I wish him luck because he may not find those old dependencies
in the repositories either (but I don't know if this is going to be a
problem).

Regards,
Tobi

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From epost at ...3323...  Mon Sep 22 11:25:25 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?UTF-8?B?SsO4cm4gRXJpayBNw7hybmU=?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:25:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ctrl+Alt+S is not working in Ubuntu 14.04
Message-ID: <541FEB05.1080105@...3323...>

Ctrl+Alt+S is not working in Ubuntu 14.04. It is however working just 
fine under Manjaro KDE...



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Mon Sep 22 11:25:43 2014
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:25:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas2 program on ArchLinux
In-Reply-To: <20140922091129.GB684@...2774...>
References: <541FE65E.1060405@...221...> <20140922091129.GB684@...2774...>
Message-ID: <541FEB17.20309@...221...>



Am 22.09.2014 11:11, schrieb Tobias Boege:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>> Someone here who knows ArchLinux? I have a student who would like to use
>> a program I once wrote in Gambas2.
>>
>> I told him to install a Gambas2 package, then try the .gambas binary
>> from me. It does run like this on my own laptop, but not on his machine.
>>
>> Anything special we should know about? Or is it possible he didn't find
>> a Gambas2 but only a Gambas3 for his ArchLinux and just isn't aware?
>>
>
> Very likely. The only Gambas version in the official repositories is 3.5.4
> and I couldn't find anything in the AUR. He may need to compile a Gambas2
> by himself. I wish him luck because he may not find those old dependencies
> in the repositories either (but I don't know if this is going to be a
> problem).
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>

Thank you, that makes it clearer. I will help him compile an older 
version, maybe we get it done. It isn't so important to have all the 
special libraries, it is a rather basic program.

Rolf



From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 22 11:35:53 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:35:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ctrl+Alt+S is not working in Ubuntu 14.04
In-Reply-To: <541FEB05.1080105@...3323...>
References: <541FEB05.1080105@...3323...>
Message-ID: <541FED79.1010606@...1...>

Le 22/09/2014 11:25, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
> Ctrl+Alt+S is not working in Ubuntu 14.04. It is however working just
> fine under Manjaro KDE...
>

Application shortcuts do not work if they are already used by the 
desktop as global shortcuts.

I don't think there is a way for a Gambas application to know these 
global shortcuts, so I guess you have to manually handle that case. 
Either by redefining the global shortcut from the desktop, or local the 
shortcut from the application.

Regards,

-- 
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From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Mon Sep 22 11:39:14 2014
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:39:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas2 program on ArchLinux
In-Reply-To: <541FEB17.20309@...221...>
References: <541FE65E.1060405@...221...> <20140922091129.GB684@...2774...>
	<541FEB17.20309@...221...>
Message-ID: <1411378754.3462.9.camel@...40...>

Am Montag, den 22.09.2014, 11:25 +0200 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
> 
> Am 22.09.2014 11:11, schrieb Tobias Boege:
> > On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> >> Good morning everyone,
> >>
> >> Someone here who knows ArchLinux? I have a student who would like to use
> >> a program I once wrote in Gambas2.
> >>
> >> I told him to install a Gambas2 package, then try the .gambas binary
> >> from me. It does run like this on my own laptop, but not on his machine.
> >>
> >> Anything special we should know about? Or is it possible he didn't find
> >> a Gambas2 but only a Gambas3 for his ArchLinux and just isn't aware?
> >>
> >
> > Very likely. The only Gambas version in the official repositories is 3.5.4
> > and I couldn't find anything in the AUR. He may need to compile a Gambas2
> > by himself. I wish him luck because he may not find those old dependencies
> > in the repositories either (but I don't know if this is going to be a
> > problem).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tobi
> >
> 
> Thank you, that makes it clearer. I will help him compile an older 
> version, maybe we get it done. It isn't so important to have all the 
> special libraries, it is a rather basic program.
> 
> Rolf

Salut Rolf,

Ubunto 12.04 LTS has it still in his repository

The problem compiling gambas2 will be qt3 I think
Ask 	PINO <pinozollo at ...626...> he tried that about a year ago.


-- 
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Charlie




From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep 22 11:38:45 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:38:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas2 program on ArchLinux
In-Reply-To: <541FEB17.20309@...221...>
References: <541FE65E.1060405@...221...> <20140922091129.GB684@...2774...>
	<541FEB17.20309@...221...>
Message-ID: <20140922093845.GC684@...2774...>

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 22.09.2014 11:11, schrieb Tobias Boege:
> > On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> >> Good morning everyone,
> >>
> >> Someone here who knows ArchLinux? I have a student who would like to use
> >> a program I once wrote in Gambas2.
> >>
> >> I told him to install a Gambas2 package, then try the .gambas binary
> >> from me. It does run like this on my own laptop, but not on his machine.
> >>
> >> Anything special we should know about? Or is it possible he didn't find
> >> a Gambas2 but only a Gambas3 for his ArchLinux and just isn't aware?
> >>
> >
> > Very likely. The only Gambas version in the official repositories is 3.5.4
> > and I couldn't find anything in the AUR. He may need to compile a Gambas2
> > by himself. I wish him luck because he may not find those old dependencies
> > in the repositories either (but I don't know if this is going to be a
> > problem).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tobi
> >
> 
> Thank you, that makes it clearer. I will help him compile an older 
> version, maybe we get it done. It isn't so important to have all the 
> special libraries, it is a rather basic program.
> 

I just tried it out myself here on a not-so-up-to-date Arch Linux and I
needed to change:

  acinclude.m4, line 20:
    AM_CONFIG_HEADER(...) -> AC_CONFIG_HEADERS(...)

then ./reconf && ./configure brought me:

  THESE COMPONENTS ARE DISABLED:

  - gb.corba
  - gb.db.firebird
  - gb.db.sqlite2
  - gb.qte

which is pretty good.

Compilation failed later in gb.qt.kde and gb.pdf but without these, it ran
through! Note that I run the Trinity desktop (3.5.13) which builds on QT3
(3.3.8d), so I had the bonus of having old QT libraries installed (whether
that's a "bonus" clearly depends on context :-) Here, it is a bonus) which
were indeed used for building gb.qt.

Regards,
Tobi

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From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep 22 14:35:16 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:35:16 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 562 in gambas: Ubuntu ppa for Gambas has
	disappeared
Message-ID: <0-6813199134517018827-7838108480684570571-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Status: New
Owner: ----
Labels: Version Type-Bug Priority-Medium OpSys-Any Dist-Any Arch-Any  
Desktop-Any GUI-Any

New issue 562 by martindh... at ...626...: Ubuntu ppa for Gambas has  
disappeared
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=562

The Installation page on the Gambas site points to a ppa for Gambas 3 run  
by nemh. That ppa seems no longer to be available:

https://launchpad.net/~nemh/+archive/gambas3



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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Mon Sep 22 14:51:55 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:51:55 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas2 program on ArchLinux
In-Reply-To: <541FE65E.1060405@...221...>
References: <541FE65E.1060405@...221...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7SiqC5peSLYXqq4pgf7hOhp4oNepH2uEy2H2pPxyVRcVA@...627...>

Maybe it would be easier to convert the program for Gambas3?
It should be very easy.


Jussi

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Rolf-Werner Eilert <
eilert-sprachen at ...221...> wrote:

> Good morning everyone,
>
> Someone here who knows ArchLinux? I have a student who would like to use
> a program I once wrote in Gambas2.
>
> I told him to install a Gambas2 package, then try the .gambas binary
> from me. It does run like this on my own laptop, but not on his machine.
>
> Anything special we should know about? Or is it possible he didn't find
> a Gambas2 but only a Gambas3 for his ArchLinux and just isn't aware?
>
> Thank you for any input!
>
> Rolf
>
>
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From charlie at ...2793...  Mon Sep 22 17:47:31 2014
From: charlie at ...2793... (Charlie)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:47:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 562 in gambas: Ubuntu ppa for Gambas has
	disappeared
In-Reply-To: <0-6813199134517018827-7838108480684570571-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <0-6813199134517018827-7838108480684570571-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <1411400851342-48443.post@...3046...>

The ppa has been change, you can run the following in Terminal to activate
the latest ppa (Gambas stable).

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3




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From charlie at ...2793...  Mon Sep 22 17:57:00 2014
From: charlie at ...2793... (Charlie)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:57:00 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Installation package(s)
Message-ID: <1411401420963-48444.post@...3046...>

I want to create an installation package but when I try I now get 13 files
created, what are they all for and is there a way to get just one or am I
missing something? Thanks.



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From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Mon Sep 22 18:02:34 2014
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:02:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas2 program on ArchLinux
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7SiqC5peSLYXqq4pgf7hOhp4oNepH2uEy2H2pPxyVRcVA@...627...>
References: <541FE65E.1060405@...221...>
	<CAFJMe7SiqC5peSLYXqq4pgf7hOhp4oNepH2uEy2H2pPxyVRcVA@...627...>
Message-ID: <5420481A.6060208@...221...>

There is a printing function included, and that would have to be 
completely re-written. I don't really have the time for that now, so I 
thought if there is an easier way to do it...

Rolf


Am 22.09.2014 14:51, schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> Maybe it would be easier to convert the program for Gambas3?
> It should be very easy.
>
>
> Jussi
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Rolf-Werner Eilert <
> eilert-sprachen at ...221...> wrote:
>
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>> Someone here who knows ArchLinux? I have a student who would like to use
>> a program I once wrote in Gambas2.
>>
>> I told him to install a Gambas2 package, then try the .gambas binary
>> from me. It does run like this on my own laptop, but not on his machine.
>>
>> Anything special we should know about? Or is it possible he didn't find
>> a Gambas2 but only a Gambas3 for his ArchLinux and just isn't aware?
>>
>> Thank you for any input!
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>>
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From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep 22 18:04:30 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 16:04:30 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 562 in gambas: Ubuntu ppa for Gambas has
	disappeared
In-Reply-To: <0-6813199134517018827-7838108480684570571-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <0-6813199134517018827-7838108480684570571-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <1-6813199134517018827-7838108480684570571-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: NeedsInfo

Comment #1 on issue 562 by tabo... at ...626...: Ubuntu ppa for Gambas has  
disappeared
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=562

What page do you mean? In Google, "site:gambaswiki.org nemh" gives me  
exactly five matches, two of which are false positives and another two are  
outdated pages in non-English.

The remainder is http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/package. This is not really  
the "installation page". I don't even know why that page exists. The  
installation instructions are at http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install.

Meanwhile, I fix the /doc/package page, in case it has a meaning to  
someone...

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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep 22 18:09:08 2014
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:09:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes
 does not work
In-Reply-To: <CAFM-pnt3GPHhX0h6WS4mqyZWz6-qBAgydtTWZjghZ2DZaDgq1g@...627...>
References: <CAFM-pnvMJo9QU7fXH1mqAsY1iwQL7ikeD0S+GDSyyxFKhRJk9g@...627...>
	<20140922084649.GA684@...2774...>
	<CAFM-pnt3GPHhX0h6WS4mqyZWz6-qBAgydtTWZjghZ2DZaDgq1g@...627...>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL6wRk0Lu8rEepNrj94wvuvSeHwX9H8hT7hno6zDxA-qqA@...627...>

strange...

has we can say Control = TextBox ... no ?


2014-09-22 11:03 GMT+02:00 Julio Sanchez <jusabejusabe at ...626...>:
> Thanks Tobi, I'll try :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Julio
>
> 2014-09-22 10:46 GMT+02:00 Tobias Boege <taboege at ...626...>:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Julio Sanchez wrote:
>> > Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes does not work
>> >
>> > We have a class that inherits from the integer class [], we call
>> > SuperInteger, this is your code:
>> > Inherits Integer []
>> >
>> > Public function  higher() as integer
>> > dim itemt as integer
>> > dim ihigher as integer
>> >
>> > for each element in me
>> > ihigher = max (ihigher, item)
>> > next
>> >
>> > return ihigher
>> >
>> > end
>> >
>> >
>> > When I make an instance of the new :
>> >
>> > dim test as new SuperInteger
>> >
>> >
>> > It does not work this assignment:
>> > test = [86, 16, 212, 1, 43, 18]
>> >
>> > gambas3 says it's not the same type.
>> > Should I working? Right?
>> >
>>
>> No, because it is not the same type :-)
>>
>> Even if B inherits A, it can be very difficult to make sense of an
>> assignment myB = myA because myB could reference _lots_ of other
>> information (which is not in the class A). What should happen to this
>> information in the assignment? You simply can't convert myA to the B
>> class.
>>
>> The clean solution would be to define a static B.FromA() method which
>> takes an A object and returns a new B object which contains that A
>> object and initialises all other information appropriately.
>>
>> So, you would implement
>>
>>   Static Public Function FromArray(aArray As Integer[]) As SuperInteger
>>
>> or something along these lines in SuperInteger. For a more concise
>> syntax, you may also use the _call() special method. Then you can do
>>
>>   myB = SuperInteger([1, 2, 3, 4])
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tobi
>>
>> --
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>>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep 22 18:17:43 2014
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:17:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes
 does not work
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL6wRk0Lu8rEepNrj94wvuvSeHwX9H8hT7hno6zDxA-qqA@...627...>
References: <CAFM-pnvMJo9QU7fXH1mqAsY1iwQL7ikeD0S+GDSyyxFKhRJk9g@...627...>
	<20140922084649.GA684@...2774...>
	<CAFM-pnt3GPHhX0h6WS4mqyZWz6-qBAgydtTWZjghZ2DZaDgq1g@...627...>
	<CAFkCsL6wRk0Lu8rEepNrj94wvuvSeHwX9H8hT7hno6zDxA-qqA@...627...>
Message-ID: <CAFkCsL7MKeMKUiE-ETMc7Js5RK7tiLbVvKqGuTgzP=tHmV_t-A@...627...>

for me if B inherit A so it can contain a A class ... it have the same
base struct...


For example in gb.report a reportcontrol can contain a ref to a
reportLabel witch inherit  reportcontrol... why it is not the same for
arrays ?

Fabien



2014-09-22 18:09 GMT+02:00 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> strange...
>
> has we can say Control = TextBox ... no ?
>
>
> 2014-09-22 11:03 GMT+02:00 Julio Sanchez <jusabejusabe at ...626...>:
>> Thanks Tobi, I'll try :)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Julio
>>
>> 2014-09-22 10:46 GMT+02:00 Tobias Boege <taboege at ...626...>:
>>
>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Julio Sanchez wrote:
>>> > Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes does not work
>>> >
>>> > We have a class that inherits from the integer class [], we call
>>> > SuperInteger, this is your code:
>>> > Inherits Integer []
>>> >
>>> > Public function  higher() as integer
>>> > dim itemt as integer
>>> > dim ihigher as integer
>>> >
>>> > for each element in me
>>> > ihigher = max (ihigher, item)
>>> > next
>>> >
>>> > return ihigher
>>> >
>>> > end
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > When I make an instance of the new :
>>> >
>>> > dim test as new SuperInteger
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > It does not work this assignment:
>>> > test = [86, 16, 212, 1, 43, 18]
>>> >
>>> > gambas3 says it's not the same type.
>>> > Should I working? Right?
>>> >
>>>
>>> No, because it is not the same type :-)
>>>
>>> Even if B inherits A, it can be very difficult to make sense of an
>>> assignment myB = myA because myB could reference _lots_ of other
>>> information (which is not in the class A). What should happen to this
>>> information in the assignment? You simply can't convert myA to the B
>>> class.
>>>
>>> The clean solution would be to define a static B.FromA() method which
>>> takes an A object and returns a new B object which contains that A
>>> object and initialises all other information appropriately.
>>>
>>> So, you would implement
>>>
>>>   Static Public Function FromArray(aArray As Integer[]) As SuperInteger
>>>
>>> or something along these lines in SuperInteger. For a more concise
>>> syntax, you may also use the _call() special method. Then you can do
>>>
>>>   myB = SuperInteger([1, 2, 3, 4])
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tobi
>>>
>>> --
>>> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>>>
>>>
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>
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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 22 18:21:25 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:21:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes
 does not work
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL6wRk0Lu8rEepNrj94wvuvSeHwX9H8hT7hno6zDxA-qqA@...627...>
References: <CAFM-pnvMJo9QU7fXH1mqAsY1iwQL7ikeD0S+GDSyyxFKhRJk9g@...627...>	<20140922084649.GA684@...2774...>	<CAFM-pnt3GPHhX0h6WS4mqyZWz6-qBAgydtTWZjghZ2DZaDgq1g@...627...>
	<CAFkCsL6wRk0Lu8rEepNrj94wvuvSeHwX9H8hT7hno6zDxA-qqA@...627...>
Message-ID: <54204C85.1080501@...1...>

Le 22/09/2014 18:09, Fabien Bodard a ?crit :
> strange...
>
> has we can say Control = TextBox ... no ?
>

No, it's the other way.

TextBox inherits Control, so you can assing a TextBox to a Control 
variable, but not the contrary.

[...] returns a native array, so you can't assign it to a variable whose 
datatype is a class that inherits that native array.

We need the ability to implement an automatic conversion functions 
directly in Gambas, not just in C/C++. I won't do that now!

-- 
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From taboege at ...626...  Mon Sep 22 18:20:38 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:20:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Direct assignment to arrays of inherited classes
 does not work
In-Reply-To: <CAFkCsL6wRk0Lu8rEepNrj94wvuvSeHwX9H8hT7hno6zDxA-qqA@...627...>
References: <CAFM-pnvMJo9QU7fXH1mqAsY1iwQL7ikeD0S+GDSyyxFKhRJk9g@...627...>
	<20140922084649.GA684@...2774...>
	<CAFM-pnt3GPHhX0h6WS4mqyZWz6-qBAgydtTWZjghZ2DZaDgq1g@...627...>
	<CAFkCsL6wRk0Lu8rEepNrj94wvuvSeHwX9H8hT7hno6zDxA-qqA@...627...>
Message-ID: <20140922162038.GG684@...2774...>

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> strange...
> 
> has we can say Control = TextBox ... no ?
> 

Yes, this is because it is the other way around. TextBox inherits Control,
so TextBox contains more information. To assign Control = TextBox, we just
need to forget some of the additional stuff in TextBox, which is easy.

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From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep 22 19:07:46 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:07:46 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 562 in gambas: Ubuntu ppa for Gambas has
	disappeared
In-Reply-To: <1-6813199134517018827-7838108480684570571-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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	<0-6813199134517018827-7838108480684570571-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <2-6813199134517018827-7838108480684570571-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>


Comment #2 on issue 562 by martindh... at ...626...: Ubuntu ppa for Gambas has  
disappeared
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=562

I went to the project page:

<http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html>

(First hit on Google). Then I clicked on "Distributions and OS" on the left  
to find out how to install in Ubuntu. That's where the broken link is. I  
actually had it installed from the PPA on one machine, and the PPA  
disappeared, giving errors during apt-get update.

Cheers,
Martin

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From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep 22 19:17:52 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:17:52 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 562 in gambas: Ubuntu ppa for Gambas has
	disappeared
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Updates:
	Status: Fixed

Comment #3 on issue 562 by tabo... at ...626...: Ubuntu ppa for Gambas has  
disappeared
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=562

Corrected. Thanks.

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From dosida at ...626...  Mon Sep 22 20:18:14 2014
From: dosida at ...626... (Dimitris Anogiatis)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:18:14 -0600
Subject: [Gambas-user] Installation package(s)
In-Reply-To: <1411401420963-48444.post@...3046...>
References: <1411401420963-48444.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <CACMvmEAGGNiSuAPQzqAy_TpauWAgmjbfnGQNZ1eE1XwH81dMVA@...627...>

I think that those 13 files are mostly all that's needed to put your
program into a repository including the source code.
If you just want to get the binary into your target system or on a website
without going through a repository...
then you only need one.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Charlie <charlie at ...2793...> wrote:

> I want to create an installation package but when I try I now get 13 files
> created, what are they all for and is there a way to get just one or am I
> missing something? Thanks.
>
>
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 23 02:29:26 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:29:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for implementation
In-Reply-To: <1411341623.3278.53.camel@...3024...>
References: <1411341623.3278.53.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <5420BEE6.10900@...1...>

Le 22/09/2014 01:20, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> Hi all,
>
> It would be nice if the translator in IDE could update some extra info
> in the translation files (.po)
>
> Example:
> #, fuzzy
> msgid ""
> msgstr ""
> "Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n"
> "POT-Creation-Date: 2002-11-01 04:27+0100\n"
> "PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n"
> "Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAIL at ...513...>\n"
> "Language-Team: LANGUAGE <LL at ...514...>\n"
> "MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
> "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
> "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"
>
> Po-Revision-Date could be added when saving the translation as could
> Last Translator -> take name and mail from Packaging Preferences in IDE
> (if available)
> Or maybe this option should be a specific new Preference, as some maybe
> don;t want their name and mail in the po file.
>
> This way there is some kind of tracking on how recent or old
> translations are and someone to contact who has done the most recent
> translation, as it is simply added in the .po file.
>
> What do other Gambas translators or maybe soon to be translators think
> about this suggestion?
>

I implemented that in revision #6503.

The *.pot files header is updated by the compiler when its corresponding 
class is compiled.

The *.po files header is updated when the translation is saved to the 
disk by the IDE translation dialog.

Please report any problem!

Regards,

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From charlie at ...2793...  Tue Sep 23 13:59:07 2014
From: charlie at ...2793... (Charlie)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 04:59:07 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Installation package(s)
In-Reply-To: <CACMvmEAGGNiSuAPQzqAy_TpauWAgmjbfnGQNZ1eE1XwH81dMVA@...627...>
References: <1411401420963-48444.post@...3046...>
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Message-ID: <1411473547754-48465.post@...3046...>

Thanks for the reply but I am still confused. I have tried a few of the .deb
files but they don't seem to work so which one?

control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
control_1.0.4.orig.tar.gz
control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.tar.gz




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From willy at ...2734...  Tue Sep 23 12:58:51 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:58:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for implementation
In-Reply-To: <5420BEE6.10900@...1...>
References: <1411341623.3278.53.camel@...3024...>
	<5420BEE6.10900@...1...>
Message-ID: <1411469931.20755.0.camel@...3024...>

On di, 2014-09-23 at 02:29 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 22/09/2014 01:20, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It would be nice if the translator in IDE could update some extra info
> > in the translation files (.po)
> >
> > Example:
> > #, fuzzy
> > msgid ""
> > msgstr ""
> > "Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n"
> > "POT-Creation-Date: 2002-11-01 04:27+0100\n"
> > "PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n"
> > "Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAIL at ...513...>\n"
> > "Language-Team: LANGUAGE <LL at ...514...>\n"
> > "MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
> > "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
> > "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"
> >
> > Po-Revision-Date could be added when saving the translation as could
> > Last Translator -> take name and mail from Packaging Preferences in IDE
> > (if available)
> > Or maybe this option should be a specific new Preference, as some maybe
> > don;t want their name and mail in the po file.
> >
> > This way there is some kind of tracking on how recent or old
> > translations are and someone to contact who has done the most recent
> > translation, as it is simply added in the .po file.
> >
> > What do other Gambas translators or maybe soon to be translators think
> > about this suggestion?
> >
> 
> I implemented that in revision #6503.
> 
> The *.pot files header is updated by the compiler when its corresponding 
> class is compiled.
> 
> The *.po files header is updated when the translation is saved to the 
> disk by the IDE translation dialog.
> 
> Please report any problem!
> 
> Regards,
> 

Great and thank you.

I'll test as soon as daily PPA is at this revision and report back.

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http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From willy at ...2734...  Tue Sep 23 15:20:59 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:20:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Installation package(s)
In-Reply-To: <1411473547754-48465.post@...3046...>
References: <1411401420963-48444.post@...3046...>
	<CACMvmEAGGNiSuAPQzqAy_TpauWAgmjbfnGQNZ1eE1XwH81dMVA@...627...>
	<1411473547754-48465.post@...3046...>
Message-ID: <1411478459.20755.4.camel@...3024...>

On di, 2014-09-23 at 04:59 -0700, Charlie wrote:
> Thanks for the reply but I am still confused. I have tried a few of the .deb
> files but they don't seem to work so which one?
> 
> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
> control_1.0.4.orig.tar.gz
> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
> 
Hi Charlie,

You have this many packages because your project uses gb.gui.

When you use gb.gui the packager will also make gb.gtk and gb.qt4
packages. That is why you have this many packages.

Use the control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb to install. It should be the
biggest in size compared to the two other .debs (being
control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb and
control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb)


-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 23 15:34:44 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:34:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Installation package(s)
In-Reply-To: <1411478459.20755.4.camel@...3024...>
References: <1411401420963-48444.post@...3046...>	<CACMvmEAGGNiSuAPQzqAy_TpauWAgmjbfnGQNZ1eE1XwH81dMVA@...627...>	<1411473547754-48465.post@...3046...>
	<1411478459.20755.4.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <542176F4.3010009@...1...>

Le 23/09/2014 15:20, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> On di, 2014-09-23 at 04:59 -0700, Charlie wrote:
>> Thanks for the reply but I am still confused. I have tried a few of the .deb
>> files but they don't seem to work so which one?
>>
>> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
>> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
>> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
>> control_1.0.4.orig.tar.gz
>> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
>> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
>> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
>> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
>> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
>> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
>>
> Hi Charlie,
>
> You have this many packages because your project uses gb.gui.
>
> When you use gb.gui the packager will also make gb.gtk and gb.qt4
> packages. That is why you have this many packages.
>
> Use the control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb to install. It should be the
> biggest in size compared to the two other .debs (being
> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb and
> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb)
>
>

No!

You have to install either the 'control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb' or 
the 'control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb' package, depending on which GUI 
you want to -be able- to use. If you want to -be able- to use GTK+ and 
QT4, you have to install both packages.

The actual GUI that will be used at runtime depends on the running 
desktop, and if the corresponding Gambas GUI component (gb.gtk or 
gb.qt4) is installed.

These GUI packages just ensure that at least one Gambas GUI component is 
installed, that's all.

And they depends on the 'control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb' package which 
is your project without the GUI dependency, so that it is installed too.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From willy at ...2734...  Tue Sep 23 15:43:13 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:43:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Installation package(s)
In-Reply-To: <542176F4.3010009@...1...>
References: <1411401420963-48444.post@...3046...>
	<CACMvmEAGGNiSuAPQzqAy_TpauWAgmjbfnGQNZ1eE1XwH81dMVA@...627...>
	<1411473547754-48465.post@...3046...>
	<1411478459.20755.4.camel@...3024...>
	<542176F4.3010009@...1...>
Message-ID: <1411479793.20755.6.camel@...3024...>

On di, 2014-09-23 at 15:34 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 23/09/2014 15:20, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> > On di, 2014-09-23 at 04:59 -0700, Charlie wrote:
> >> Thanks for the reply but I am still confused. I have tried a few of the .deb
> >> files but they don't seem to work so which one?
> >>
> >> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> >> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
> >> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
> >> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
> >> control_1.0.4.orig.tar.gz
> >> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> >> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
> >> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
> >> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
> >> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> >> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
> >> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
> >> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
> >>
> > Hi Charlie,
> >
> > You have this many packages because your project uses gb.gui.
> >
> > When you use gb.gui the packager will also make gb.gtk and gb.qt4
> > packages. That is why you have this many packages.
> >
> > Use the control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb to install. It should be the
> > biggest in size compared to the two other .debs (being
> > control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb and
> > control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb)
> >
> >
> 
> No!
> 
> You have to install either the 'control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb' or 
> the 'control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb' package, depending on which GUI 
> you want to -be able- to use. If you want to -be able- to use GTK+ and 
> QT4, you have to install both packages.
> 
> The actual GUI that will be used at runtime depends on the running 
> desktop, and if the corresponding Gambas GUI component (gb.gtk or 
> gb.qt4) is installed.
> 
> These GUI packages just ensure that at least one Gambas GUI component is 
> installed, that's all.
> 
> And they depends on the 'control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb' package which 
> is your project without the GUI dependency, so that it is installed too.
> 
> Regards,
> 
Seems, my assumption was wrong, but I stopped using gb.gui in my
projects since Gambas 3.5.x, so that might explain it ;)

Thanks for the correction

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep 23 17:46:47 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 17:46:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] DateBox popup transparency issue
Message-ID: <20140923154647.GA868@...2774...>

Hi,

someone reported an issue with DateBox's chooser popup. After double-clicking
on a date, the popup would stay halfways transparent and flicker according to
the mouse movements. The attached screenshot kind of shows this. Project is
also attached.

After it didn't happen on my system, we found out that replacing gb.gui with
gb.qt4 fixed the symptom. His system:

[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.13.0-36-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
Desktop=GNOME
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_US.UTF-8
Memory=16030M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4

Regards,
Tobi

-- 
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From willy at ...2734...  Tue Sep 23 18:07:50 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:07:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Installation package(s)
In-Reply-To: <542176F4.3010009@...1...>
References: <1411401420963-48444.post@...3046...>
	<CACMvmEAGGNiSuAPQzqAy_TpauWAgmjbfnGQNZ1eE1XwH81dMVA@...627...>
	<1411473547754-48465.post@...3046...>
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Message-ID: <1411488470.20755.15.camel@...3024...>

On di, 2014-09-23 at 15:34 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 23/09/2014 15:20, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> > On di, 2014-09-23 at 04:59 -0700, Charlie wrote:
> >> Thanks for the reply but I am still confused. I have tried a few of the .deb
> >> files but they don't seem to work so which one?
> >>
> >> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> >> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
> >> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
> >> control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
> >> control_1.0.4.orig.tar.gz
> >> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> >> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
> >> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
> >> control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
> >> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> >> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes
> >> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
> >> control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
> >>
> > Hi Charlie,
> >
> > You have this many packages because your project uses gb.gui.
> >
> > When you use gb.gui the packager will also make gb.gtk and gb.qt4
> > packages. That is why you have this many packages.
> >
> > Use the control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb to install. It should be the
> > biggest in size compared to the two other .debs (being
> > control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb and
> > control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb)
> >
> >
> 
> No!
> 
> You have to install either the 'control-gtk_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb' or 
> the 'control-qt4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb' package, depending on which GUI 
> you want to -be able- to use. If you want to -be able- to use GTK+ and 
> QT4, you have to install both packages.
> 
> The actual GUI that will be used at runtime depends on the running 
> desktop, and if the corresponding Gambas GUI component (gb.gtk or 
> gb.qt4) is installed.
> 
> These GUI packages just ensure that at least one Gambas GUI component is 
> installed, that's all.
> 
> And they depends on the 'control_1.0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb' package which 
> is your project without the GUI dependency, so that it is installed too.
> 
> Regards,
> 

A question (with gb.gtk3 component on mind):
Will the future 'make installation packager' make a gtk3 package as well
for a gb.gui project?

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 23 18:36:21 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:36:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] DateBox popup transparency issue
In-Reply-To: <20140923154647.GA868@...2774...>
References: <20140923154647.GA868@...2774...>
Message-ID: <5421A185.6080406@...1...>

Le 23/09/2014 17:46, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> someone reported an issue with DateBox's chooser popup. After double-clicking
> on a date, the popup would stay halfways transparent and flicker according to
> the mouse movements. The attached screenshot kind of shows this. Project is
> also attached.
>
> After it didn't happen on my system, we found out that replacing gb.gui with
> gb.qt4 fixed the symptom. His system:
>
> [System]
> Gambas=3.5.4
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=3.13.0-36-generic
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
> Desktop=GNOME
> Theme=QGtk
> Language=en_US.UTF-8
> Memory=16030M
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>

I guess this is an Unity thing... By the way, it detects the desktop as 
being Gnome. If someone knows a way to detect that it is actually Unity.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From willy at ...2734...  Tue Sep 23 19:11:12 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:11:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] DateBox popup transparency issue
In-Reply-To: <5421A185.6080406@...1...>
References: <20140923154647.GA868@...2774...>
	<5421A185.6080406@...1...>
Message-ID: <1411492272.4359.14.camel@...3024...>

On di, 2014-09-23 at 18:36 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 23/09/2014 17:46, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > someone reported an issue with DateBox's chooser popup. After double-clicking
> > on a date, the popup would stay halfways transparent and flicker according to
> > the mouse movements. The attached screenshot kind of shows this. Project is
> > also attached.
> >
> > After it didn't happen on my system, we found out that replacing gb.gui with
> > gb.qt4 fixed the symptom. His system:
> >
> > [System]
> > Gambas=3.5.4
> > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > Kernel=3.13.0-36-generic
> > Architecture=x86_64
> > Distribution=Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
> > Desktop=GNOME
> > Theme=QGtk
> > Language=en_US.UTF-8
> > Memory=16030M
> > [Libraries]
> > Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
> > Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
> > DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
> > GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
> > GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
> > GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
> > OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
> > Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
> > Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
> > SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tobi
> >
> 
> I guess this is an Unity thing... By the way, it detects the desktop as 
> being Gnome. If someone knows a way to detect that it is actually Unity.

Private $sUnityVersion As String

Private Function Unity() As Boolean

  Dim sOutput As String
  Try Exec ["unity", "--version"] To sOutput
  If Not (Error Or Len(sOut) = 0) Then
    bUnity = True
    $sUnityVersion = ExtractUnityVersion(sOutput)
    Return True
  Else
    Return False
  Endif


Private Function ExtractUnityVersion(TextToParse As String) As String
  
  Dim iPosB, iPosE As Integer
  iPosB = InStr(TextToParse, " ", 1) + 1
  iPosE = InStr(TextToParse, "\n", iPosB)
  Return Trim(Mid$(TextToParse, iPosB, iPosE - iPosB))
  
End

Important is to check this before checking for gnome!!

As far as I know it doesn't run with all window managers.
It does run with: mutter, metacity, kwin and muffin.


-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep 23 19:12:21 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:12:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] DateBox popup transparency issue
In-Reply-To: <1411492272.4359.14.camel@...3024...>
References: <20140923154647.GA868@...2774...>
	<5421A185.6080406@...1...>
	<1411492272.4359.14.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <20140923171221.GB868@...2774...>

On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Willy Raets wrote:
> On di, 2014-09-23 at 18:36 +0200, Beno??t Minisini wrote:
> > Le 23/09/2014 17:46, Tobias Boege a ??crit :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > someone reported an issue with DateBox's chooser popup. After double-clicking
> > > on a date, the popup would stay halfways transparent and flicker according to
> > > the mouse movements. The attached screenshot kind of shows this. Project is
> > > also attached.
> > >
> > > After it didn't happen on my system, we found out that replacing gb.gui with
> > > gb.qt4 fixed the symptom. His system:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tobi
> > >
> > 
> > I guess this is an Unity thing... By the way, it detects the desktop as 
> > being Gnome. If someone knows a way to detect that it is actually Unity.
> 
> Private $sUnityVersion As String
> 
> Private Function Unity() As Boolean
> 
>   Dim sOutput As String
>   Try Exec ["unity", "--version"] To sOutput
>   If Not (Error Or Len(sOut) = 0) Then
>     bUnity = True
>     $sUnityVersion = ExtractUnityVersion(sOutput)
>     Return True
>   Else
>     Return False
>   Endif
> 
> 
> Private Function ExtractUnityVersion(TextToParse As String) As String
>   
>   Dim iPosB, iPosE As Integer
>   iPosB = InStr(TextToParse, " ", 1) + 1
>   iPosE = InStr(TextToParse, "\n", iPosB)
>   Return Trim(Mid$(TextToParse, iPosB, iPosE - iPosB))
>   
> End
> 
> Important is to check this before checking for gnome!!
> 
> As far as I know it doesn't run with all window managers.
> It does run with: mutter, metacity, kwin and muffin.
> 

Wouldn't this just check if unity is installed? Doesn't mean it's running.

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Tue Sep 23 19:18:58 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:18:58 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] DateBox popup transparency issue
In-Reply-To: <5421A185.6080406@...1...>
References: <20140923154647.GA868@...2774...>
	<5421A185.6080406@...1...>
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Hi Beniot,

Try this for checking desktops. It works for me on Ubuntu 12.04. This of
course is a BASK script...

if [ "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP" = "" ]then
  desktop=$(echo "$XDG_DATA_DIRS" | sed 's/.*\(xfce\|kde\|gnome\).*/\1/')else
  desktop=$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOPfi

desktop=${desktop,,}  # convert to lower case
echo "$desktop"


On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Beno?t Minisini <
gambas at ...1...> wrote:

> Le 23/09/2014 17:46, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > someone reported an issue with DateBox's chooser popup. After
> double-clicking
> > on a date, the popup would stay halfways transparent and flicker
> according to
> > the mouse movements. The attached screenshot kind of shows this. Project
> is
> > also attached.
> >
> > After it didn't happen on my system, we found out that replacing gb.gui
> with
> > gb.qt4 fixed the symptom. His system:
> >
> > [System]
> > Gambas=3.5.4
> > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > Kernel=3.13.0-36-generic
> > Architecture=x86_64
> > Distribution=Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
> > Desktop=GNOME
> > Theme=QGtk
> > Language=en_US.UTF-8
> > Memory=16030M
> > [Libraries]
> > Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
> > Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
> > DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
> > GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
> > GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
> > GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
> > OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
> > Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
> > Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
> > SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tobi
> >
>
> I guess this is an Unity thing... By the way, it detects the desktop as
> being Gnome. If someone knows a way to detect that it is actually Unity.
>
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From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep 23 21:47:10 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:47:10 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.data: Trie class
Message-ID: <20140923194710.GC868@...2774...>

Hi,

in revision #6506, I added two classes to gb.data: Trie and TriePrefix.
Together they implement a Patricia Trie[0] a.k.a. Radix tree a.k.a. Prefix
tree.

Trie is the data container. It works just like a Collection. TriePrefix can
be used to limit searches to a common prefix. This way you can start doing
things way into the Trie and have to deal with less nodes.

Since the commit adds lots of new code, I would like people to test it with
the attached project. I will also attach the expected output in a text file.
(JFTR: There are no memory errors/leaks with it on my system.)

Also, Benoit: tell me what you think about the interface. I documented
everything in the source code (c_trie.c).

For the adventurous, I attach a simplistic command line interpreter which
shows the major deal with tries: the ability to search through a set of
strings simultaneously and doing fast (!) auto-completion of input among a
number of strings. (NB: I haven't tested this project thoroughly.)

Regards,
Tobi

PS: Please take revision #6507 which already corrects a bug.

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radix_tree

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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 24 01:36:03 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 01:36:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.data: Trie class
In-Reply-To: <20140923194710.GC868@...2774...>
References: <20140923194710.GC868@...2774...>
Message-ID: <542203E3.8010601@...1...>

Le 23/09/2014 21:47, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> in revision #6506, I added two classes to gb.data: Trie and TriePrefix.
> Together they implement a Patricia Trie[0] a.k.a. Radix tree a.k.a. Prefix
> tree.
>
> Trie is the data container. It works just like a Collection. TriePrefix can
> be used to limit searches to a common prefix. This way you can start doing
> things way into the Trie and have to deal with less nodes.
>
> Since the commit adds lots of new code, I would like people to test it with
> the attached project. I will also attach the expected output in a text file.
> (JFTR: There are no memory errors/leaks with it on my system.)
>
> Also, Benoit: tell me what you think about the interface. I documented
> everything in the source code (c_trie.c).
>
> For the adventurous, I attach a simplistic command line interpreter which
> shows the major deal with tries: the ability to search through a set of
> strings simultaneously and doing fast (!) auto-completion of input among a
> number of strings. (NB: I haven't tested this project thoroughly.)
>
> Regards,
> Tobi
>
> PS: Please take revision #6507 which already corrects a bug.
>
> [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radix_tree
>
>

It's a shame that apparently "trie" is the usual name of that data 
structure, because it's not a true name, and nobody knows how to 
pronounce it (like "tree" or "try"?).

The common "Radix tree" is better imho.

But I'm far from being a tree specialist, so you will tell me.

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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 24 01:58:49 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 01:58:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.data: Trie class
In-Reply-To: <20140923194710.GC868@...2774...>
References: <20140923194710.GC868@...2774...>
Message-ID: <54220939.8080204@...1...>

Le 23/09/2014 21:47, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> Also, Benoit: tell me what you think about the interface. I documented
> everything in the source code (c_trie.c).
>

The interface seems perfect. It's just the name "Trie" that I find ugly. :-)

Another point on the implementation: you should not use malloc(), free() 
and realloc(), but the functions provided by the interpreter API, i.e. 
GB.Alloc(), GB.Free() and GB.Realloc().

They are usually faster, especially if you allocate small chunks of data.

Moreover, they can detect memory leaks by checking that every allocation 
has been freed at the end of the program.

If you can compare with malloc() easily, don't hesitate not to trust me 
and check. :-)

Regards,

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From taboege at ...626...  Wed Sep 24 09:47:00 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:47:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb.data: Trie class
In-Reply-To: <54220939.8080204@...1...>
References: <20140923194710.GC868@...2774...>
	<54220939.8080204@...1...>
Message-ID: <20140924074700.GD868@...2774...>

On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 23/09/2014 21:47, Tobias Boege a ?crit :
> > Also, Benoit: tell me what you think about the interface. I documented
> > everything in the source code (c_trie.c).
> >
> 
> The interface seems perfect. It's just the name "Trie" that I find ugly. :-)
> 

I pronounce it like "try". RadixTree or PrefixTree would be options for the
container -- nothing against that -- but what about the other class?
RadixTreePrefix or even PrefixTreePrefix? :-) Naming it Patricia (from the
acronym) would be fun but even more confusing, right?

> Another point on the implementation: you should not use malloc(), free() 
> and realloc(), but the functions provided by the interpreter API, i.e. 
> GB.Alloc(), GB.Free() and GB.Realloc().
> 
> They are usually faster, especially if you allocate small chunks of data.
> 
> Moreover, they can detect memory leaks by checking that every allocation 
> has been freed at the end of the program.
> 
> If you can compare with malloc() easily, don't hesitate not to trust me 
> and check. :-)
> 

The trie.c and trie.h are from another library I wrote. (That's why I
double-tested the projects with valgrind.) It should not be a problem
to convert the uses of malloc()/free() now.

Regards,
Tobi

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 24 12:37:47 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:37:47 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 563 in gambas: Add unit testing
Message-ID: <0-6813199134517018827-15568449158494081632-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Status: New
Owner: ----
Labels: Version Type-Bug Priority-Medium OpSys-Any Dist-Any Arch-Any  
Desktop-Any GUI-Any

New issue 563 by torredel... at ...626...: Add unit testing
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=563

Add a system for performing unit testing, as the python doctest module,  
which makes it possible to put code into comments that can be run to check  
how you have been told

https://docs.python.org/2/library/doctest.html

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From gambas at ...2524...  Wed Sep 24 13:18:02 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:18:02 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 563 in gambas: Add unit testing
In-Reply-To: <0-6813199134517018827-15568449158494081632-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
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Message-ID: <1-6813199134517018827-15568449158494081632-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: Accepted
	Labels: -Type-Bug -Priority-Medium Type-Enhancement Priority-Low

Comment #1 on issue 563 by tabo... at ...626...: Add unit testing
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=563

Before we get to unit tests from source code comments, we first need a unit  
test system at all! And if we do that, we might as well make it capable of  
more than running a single function. (For instance, what if you want to  
test methods of a class which only alter the object's state and not return  
a value; or if your function returns an object of which you want to examine  
multiple properties?)

May I add to this feature request the following ideas (in the form of a  
TODO list) which came up recently at gambas-club.de:

  1. Write a stand-alone unit test program for Gambas classes, which can  
read specifications from files;
  2. Integrate that into the IDE (a new special directory in the project  
hierarchy would be nice to store unit test files for a project);
  3. Add that doctest clone on top of that system.

This looks like a longer-term project. IMHO a nice thing to have. Comments?

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From willy at ...2734...  Wed Sep 24 18:09:14 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:09:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Request for implementation
In-Reply-To: <5420BEE6.10900@...1...>
References: <1411341623.3278.53.camel@...3024...>
	<5420BEE6.10900@...1...>
Message-ID: <1411574954.3390.1.camel@...3024...>

On di, 2014-09-23 at 02:29 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 22/09/2014 01:20, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It would be nice if the translator in IDE could update some extra info
> > in the translation files (.po)
> >
> > Example:
> > #, fuzzy
> > msgid ""
> > msgstr ""
> > "Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n"
> > "POT-Creation-Date: 2002-11-01 04:27+0100\n"
> > "PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n"
> > "Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAIL at ...513...>\n"
> > "Language-Team: LANGUAGE <LL at ...514...>\n"
> > "MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
> > "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
> > "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"
> >
> > Po-Revision-Date could be added when saving the translation as could
> > Last Translator -> take name and mail from Packaging Preferences in IDE
> > (if available)
> > Or maybe this option should be a specific new Preference, as some maybe
> > don;t want their name and mail in the po file.
> >
> > This way there is some kind of tracking on how recent or old
> > translations are and someone to contact who has done the most recent
> > translation, as it is simply added in the .po file.
> >
> > What do other Gambas translators or maybe soon to be translators think
> > about this suggestion?
> >
> 
> I implemented that in revision #6503.
> 
> The *.pot files header is updated by the compiler when its corresponding 
> class is compiled.
> 
> The *.po files header is updated when the translation is saved to the 
> disk by the IDE translation dialog.
> 
> Please report any problem!
> 
> Regards,
> 

I just tested the new feature and it works well
See the nl.po file committed in rev.# 6508 for the result.
Nice work.

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From karl.reinl at ...9...  Wed Sep 24 19:56:48 2014
From: karl.reinl at ...9... (Karl Reinl)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 19:56:48 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] I like that new Open Project dialogue
Message-ID: <1411581408.4045.4.camel@...40...>

Salut Beno?t,

this is really a big one, that new Open Project dialogue.
I like it much, thanks.


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From gambas at ...2524...  Thu Sep 25 04:00:43 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 02:00:43 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 563 in gambas: Add unit testing
In-Reply-To: <1-6813199134517018827-15568449158494081632-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <1-6813199134517018827-15568449158494081632-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-15568449158494081632-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <2-6813199134517018827-15568449158494081632-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>


Comment #2 on issue 563 by fabianfl... at ...626...: Add unit testing
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=563

Not just a nice thing to have, but a needed thing. I used to do ad-hoc  
test, but then I wrote my own little and limited test framework (just a  
runner and a assert class), so have a well designed and fully capable unit  
test system would be a really useful and needed feature.

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From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Thu Sep 25 09:05:22 2014
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 09:05:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Trying how many pages before printing
Message-ID: <5423BEB2.3090108@...221...>

Hi folks,

The only thing that keeps me from actually converting all my Gambas2 
stuff into Gambas3 is the printing function. There are situations when 
you don't know how many pages you will end up with when starting to 
print. For instance, there are tables or longer texts which might be 
more than one page - or not.

So it's necessary to figure out how many pages to print prior to start 
printing. In case of a simple line-by-line text or table, you can simply 
compute the space needed in advance. But in some cases, I have much more 
complex situations, and then it would be easiest to have a way to run a 
simple pre-print and count the pages.

In those Gambas2 projects I mean, I have e. g. a printing function that 
runs in a DO LOOP. When printing reaches the end of the page, it simply 
opens a new page, jumps to the start position and continues printing there.

How do you solve this for Gambas3? I thought, a simple way would be to 
order a single page, printing into a temporary pdf, and look if there is 
another page needed, order another one-page print, and so on. Counting 
each page, you produce only a one-page temporary pdf. Then you start the 
actual printing with the counted number of pages.

Am I completely wrong here? Do you know a better/easier way?

Thank you for any input!

Rolf



From dl7nb at ...17...  Thu Sep 25 12:15:39 2014
From: dl7nb at ...17... (Wolfgang, dl7nb)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 12:15:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 on a banana pi?
In-Reply-To: <5423BEB2.3090108@...221...>
References: <5423BEB2.3090108@...221...>
Message-ID: <5423EB4B.2080308@...17...>

Hello,

I try to get the latest Gambas 3.5.4 working on a banana pi. This little 
rascal works with a /ARM/-Cortex-A7-Dual-Core-CPU.
When I install the Gambas3 in their original repo (Lbuntu from lemaker) 
I get version 3.1.1. This works, but it is not up to date.
When I add the latest ppa:

*ppa:gambas-team/gambas3

*I can not use it. After trying to install I get a lot of messages 
telling me that dependencies could not be solved. (All messages in 
german , so I do not add it here),

Is this a known behaviour and what can I do????

btw: no problems on my PC with intel cpu..


Wolfgang


From ualex73 at ...626...  Thu Sep 25 13:05:16 2014
From: ualex73 at ...626... (Alexie)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:05:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 on a banana pi?
In-Reply-To: <5423EB4B.2080308@...17...>
References: <5423BEB2.3090108@...221...>
	<5423EB4B.2080308@...17...>
Message-ID: <CAPgUXaL=Uk9Ltdr9XTGYtrWUbWoNTa-a3mfrTsGJUq2ku4OV7Q@...627...>

If you compile from scratch, following e.g. the Debian or Cubieboard
instructions, does it work then?

2014-09-25 12:15 GMT+02:00 Wolfgang, dl7nb <dl7nb at ...17...>:

> Hello,
>
> I try to get the latest Gambas 3.5.4 working on a banana pi. This little
> rascal works with a /ARM/-Cortex-A7-Dual-Core-CPU.
> When I install the Gambas3 in their original repo (Lbuntu from lemaker)
> I get version 3.1.1. This works, but it is not up to date.
> When I add the latest ppa:
>
> *ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
>
> *I can not use it. After trying to install I get a lot of messages
> telling me that dependencies could not be solved. (All messages in
> german , so I do not add it here),
>
> Is this a known behaviour and what can I do????
>
> btw: no problems on my PC with intel cpu..
>
>
> Wolfgang
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From dl7nb at ...17...  Thu Sep 25 13:37:21 2014
From: dl7nb at ...17... (Wolfgang, dl7nb)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:37:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 on a banana pi?
In-Reply-To: <CAPgUXaL=Uk9Ltdr9XTGYtrWUbWoNTa-a3mfrTsGJUq2ku4OV7Q@...627...>
References: <5423BEB2.3090108@...221...>	<5423EB4B.2080308@...17...>
	<CAPgUXaL=Uk9Ltdr9XTGYtrWUbWoNTa-a3mfrTsGJUq2ku4OV7Q@...627...>
Message-ID: <5423FE71.5070208@...17...>

Hello Alexie!

Never did that before. So this might then be the only way out. Well then 
Google will help on my new steps.

Thank you for the fast answer.

Wolfgang

(It is a longer way from Windows to Linux than I thought... but its 
worth it!)



Am 25.09.2014 um 13:05 schrieb Alexie:
> If you compile from scratch, following e.g. the Debian or Cubieboard
> instructions, does it work then?
>
> 2014-09-25 12:15 GMT+02:00 Wolfgang, dl7nb <dl7nb at ...17...>:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to get the latest Gambas 3.5.4 working on a banana pi. This little
>> rascal works with a /ARM/-Cortex-A7-Dual-Core-CPU.
>> When I install the Gambas3 in their original repo (Lbuntu from lemaker)
>> I get version 3.1.1. This works, but it is not up to date.
>> When I add the latest ppa:
>>
>> *ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
>>
>> *I can not use it. After trying to install I get a lot of messages
>> telling me that dependencies could not be solved. (All messages in
>> german , so I do not add it here),
>>
>> Is this a known behaviour and what can I do????
>>
>> btw: no problems on my PC with intel cpu..
>>
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
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From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 25 14:30:28 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 14:30:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 on a banana pi?
In-Reply-To: <5423EB4B.2080308@...17...>
References: <5423BEB2.3090108@...221...> <5423EB4B.2080308@...17...>
Message-ID: <54240AE4.10609@...1...>

Le 25/09/2014 12:15, Wolfgang, dl7nb a ?crit :
> Hello,
>
> I try to get the latest Gambas 3.5.4 working on a banana pi. This little
> rascal works with a /ARM/-Cortex-A7-Dual-Core-CPU.
> When I install the Gambas3 in their original repo (Lbuntu from lemaker)
> I get version 3.1.1. This works, but it is not up to date.
> When I add the latest ppa:
>
> *ppa:gambas-team/gambas3
>
> *I can not use it. After trying to install I get a lot of messages
> telling me that dependencies could not be solved. (All messages in
> german , so I do not add it here),
>
> Is this a known behaviour and what can I do????
>
> btw: no problems on my PC with intel cpu..
>
>
> Wolfgang

Please create a new message for a new topic. Don't answer a non-related 
topic!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 25 14:33:18 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 14:33:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Trying how many pages before printing
In-Reply-To: <5423BEB2.3090108@...221...>
References: <5423BEB2.3090108@...221...>
Message-ID: <54240B8E.3030705@...1...>

Le 25/09/2014 09:05, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit :
> Hi folks,
>
> The only thing that keeps me from actually converting all my Gambas2
> stuff into Gambas3 is the printing function. There are situations when
> you don't know how many pages you will end up with when starting to
> print. For instance, there are tables or longer texts which might be
> more than one page - or not.
>
> So it's necessary to figure out how many pages to print prior to start
> printing. In case of a simple line-by-line text or table, you can simply
> compute the space needed in advance. But in some cases, I have much more
> complex situations, and then it would be easiest to have a way to run a
> simple pre-print and count the pages.
>
> In those Gambas2 projects I mean, I have e. g. a printing function that
> runs in a DO LOOP. When printing reaches the end of the page, it simply
> opens a new page, jumps to the start position and continues printing there.
>
> How do you solve this for Gambas3? I thought, a simple way would be to
> order a single page, printing into a temporary pdf, and look if there is
> another page needed, order another one-page print, and so on. Counting
> each page, you produce only a one-page temporary pdf. Then you start the
> actual printing with the counted number of pages.
>
> Am I completely wrong here? Do you know a better/easier way?
>
> Thank you for any input!
>
> Rolf
>

You must know how many pages you have to print before printing, 
otherwise the user won't be able to see a preview, won't be able to 
print the pages it wants, and won't know if clicking on the print button 
will generate one page or one thousand.

To know how many pages you have to print, you have to compute the layout 
of your printing. And yes, it may mean printing the things twice. One 
virtually to compute the number of pages, and one for real.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Thu Sep 25 15:33:24 2014
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 15:33:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Trying how many pages before printing
In-Reply-To: <54240B8E.3030705@...1...>
References: <5423BEB2.3090108@...221...>
	<54240B8E.3030705@...1...>
Message-ID: <542419A4.3080000@...221...>



Am 25.09.2014 14:33, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 25/09/2014 09:05, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit :
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> The only thing that keeps me from actually converting all my Gambas2
>> stuff into Gambas3 is the printing function. There are situations when
>> you don't know how many pages you will end up with when starting to
>> print. For instance, there are tables or longer texts which might be
>> more than one page - or not.
>>
>> So it's necessary to figure out how many pages to print prior to start
>> printing. In case of a simple line-by-line text or table, you can simply
>> compute the space needed in advance. But in some cases, I have much more
>> complex situations, and then it would be easiest to have a way to run a
>> simple pre-print and count the pages.
>>
>> In those Gambas2 projects I mean, I have e. g. a printing function that
>> runs in a DO LOOP. When printing reaches the end of the page, it simply
>> opens a new page, jumps to the start position and continues printing there.
>>
>> How do you solve this for Gambas3? I thought, a simple way would be to
>> order a single page, printing into a temporary pdf, and look if there is
>> another page needed, order another one-page print, and so on. Counting
>> each page, you produce only a one-page temporary pdf. Then you start the
>> actual printing with the counted number of pages.
>>
>> Am I completely wrong here? Do you know a better/easier way?
>>
>> Thank you for any input!
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>
> You must know how many pages you have to print before printing,
> otherwise the user won't be able to see a preview, won't be able to
> print the pages it wants, and won't know if clicking on the print button
> will generate one page or one thousand.
>
> To know how many pages you have to print, you have to compute the layout
> of your printing. And yes, it may mean printing the things twice. One
> virtually to compute the number of pages, and one for real.
>
> Regards,
>

Ok, thank you Benoit for making that clear! I just wanted to know if I'm 
on the right way here.

Regards
Rolf



From willy at ...2734...  Fri Sep 26 00:07:59 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 00:07:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Example: PhotoTouch gives error
Message-ID: <1411682879.5172.4.camel@...3024...>

During translation of the PhotoTouch example I wanted to run and see if
translations are correct.

I got an error thrown at me stating:
gb.qt4: DrawingArea.Painted is depricated Do not use this anymore

Time for an update I guess... ;)

Using Gambas 3.5.90 (rev#6508)

[System]
Gambas=3.5.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.13.0-36-generic
Architecture=x86
Distribution=Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
Desktop=LXDE
Theme=QGtk
Language=nl_NL.UTF-8
Memory=1002M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1000.8
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From ian.roper at ...1974...  Fri Sep 26 11:32:04 2014
From: ian.roper at ...1974... (Ian)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:32:04 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] [CRASH REPORT] any project type.
Message-ID: <54253294.60307@...1974...>

Greetings,


If you create a breakpoint and highlight a variable of Type 'Result' you 
get a seg fault 11.

If the break point is before the result contains a value then it returns 
NULL which is expected behaviour.
Once the Result holds a value and you highlight it, the Gambas GUI gives 
the seg fault error.
The GUI does not crash but will continue after the clicking OK on the error.


Cheers,
Ian Roper



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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Fri Sep 26 14:27:56 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 15:27:56 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Session managment
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7Rar16otVX550beA3UEyBK=O51fssTHeXvOn0Hcc87KAQ@...627...>

Revision 6392 introduced automatic session management. Not sure what it
means, but I think it is reason why I see some of my programs having two
instances after reboot, if I have not closed it before the reboot.

So, how to handle this? Can I disable the session management with some
code? Or do I need to write instance counter?



Jussi


From willy at ...2734...  Fri Sep 26 17:00:14 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:00:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question on the .gitignore file
Message-ID: <1411743614.3481.14.camel@...3024...>

Hi,

At work I have been playing with setting up a git repository on a server
to have some version control on Gambas development.

Now I have seen that the Gambas (trunk version) default makes
a .gitignore file, witch is a very handy thing when working with git.

I was wondering what is the use of ignoring the language .pot files
(.lang/*.pot)?

I mean if I'm working on a local clone (lets say AClone) of the main git
repository on the server and I would add a new form, in a translatable
project, a .pot file would be generated. These are to my understanding
the .po template files.

After an add and commit of working directory into origin (AClone on the
local machine) and next pushing it to the server, it would ignore
these .pot files.

If someone (let say a translator) now clones the server to his local
machine (lets say B), there would be no .pot file for the new form, so
no template to translate.
Could he do translations (in BClone)? Will the IDE generate a new .pot
file the moment the translator (in BClone) would open the Translation
form?

If it does, I have no more questions and all is okay.

If not the translator could not do translations for the new form and
thus the .pot files should not be ignored in .gitignore

Just wondering?

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Fri Sep 26 17:52:47 2014
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (Jesus)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:52:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ctrl+ +/- Zoom Shortcuts don't work anymore
Message-ID: <54258BCF.3050005@...2382...>

Hi Beno?t et all

Ctrl++ and Ctrl+-, even Ctrl+mouse wheel, don't work anymore in my 
setup. I have no idea when it started happening, sorry. Currently I'm 
using latest development version from 'gambas-team' PPA.

[System]
Gambas=3.5.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.13.0-24-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Linux Mint 17 Qiana
Desktop=XFCE
Theme=QGtk
Language=es_ES.UTF-8
Memory=16032M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.0.0.0
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1000.8
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4

Regards
-- 
Jesus Guardon



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 26 19:07:09 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:07:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Session managment
In-Reply-To: <CAFJMe7Rar16otVX550beA3UEyBK=O51fssTHeXvOn0Hcc87KAQ@...627...>
References: <CAFJMe7Rar16otVX550beA3UEyBK=O51fssTHeXvOn0Hcc87KAQ@...627...>
Message-ID: <54259D3D.4010203@...1...>

Le 26/09/2014 14:27, Jussi Lahtinen a ?crit :
> Revision 6392 introduced automatic session management. Not sure what it
> means, but I think it is reason why I see some of my programs having two
> instances after reboot, if I have not closed it before the reboot.
>
> So, how to handle this? Can I disable the session management with some
> code? Or do I need to write instance counter?
>
>
>
> Jussi

Normally with your desktop, whatever it is, run all its applications 
through session manager, which is a program that register running 
application when you quit your desktop, and run them back when you come 
back.

But it needs support from the application.

Of course, if you one only one Gambas IDE window opened, you must have 
only one reopened, in the same state. If you have two, this is a bug.

Session management can usually be disabled globally (at least in KDE, 
from its control center).

I can't tell you more without more details.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 26 19:09:53 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:09:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question on the .gitignore file
In-Reply-To: <1411743614.3481.14.camel@...3024...>
References: <1411743614.3481.14.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <54259DE1.2060007@...1...>

Le 26/09/2014 17:00, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> At work I have been playing with setting up a git repository on a server
> to have some version control on Gambas development.
>
> Now I have seen that the Gambas (trunk version) default makes
> a .gitignore file, witch is a very handy thing when working with git.
>
> I was wondering what is the use of ignoring the language .pot files
> (.lang/*.pot)?
>
> I mean if I'm working on a local clone (lets say AClone) of the main git
> repository on the server and I would add a new form, in a translatable
> project, a .pot file would be generated. These are to my understanding
> the .po template files.
>
> After an add and commit of working directory into origin (AClone on the
> local machine) and next pushing it to the server, it would ignore
> these .pot files.
>
> If someone (let say a translator) now clones the server to his local
> machine (lets say B), there would be no .pot file for the new form, so
> no template to translate.
> Could he do translations (in BClone)? Will the IDE generate a new .pot
> file the moment the translator (in BClone) would open the Translation
> form?
>
> If it does, I have no more questions and all is okay.
>
> If not the translator could not do translations for the new form and
> thus the .pot files should not be ignored in .gitignore
>
> Just wondering?
>

By principle, I don't put any file that is generated in subversion, git, 
or any version control system. Which is the case with *.pot files, that 
are generated by the compiler (with the bytecode files stored in the 
'.gambas' directory, that are not put into version control too).

When you open the translation dialog, the project is compiled, so 
normally you should not have any problem. And you must not, so if you 
find something strange happening, tell me, it should be a bug.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 26 19:10:32 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:10:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ctrl+ +/- Zoom Shortcuts don't work anymore
In-Reply-To: <54258BCF.3050005@...2382...>
References: <54258BCF.3050005@...2382...>
Message-ID: <54259E08.1000408@...1...>

Le 26/09/2014 17:52, Jesus a ?crit :
> Hi Beno?t et all
>
> Ctrl++ and Ctrl+-, even Ctrl+mouse wheel, don't work anymore in my
> setup. I have no idea when it started happening, sorry. Currently I'm
> using latest development version from 'gambas-team' PPA.
>
> [System]
> Gambas=3.5.90
> OperatingSystem=Linux
> Kernel=3.13.0-24-generic
> Architecture=x86_64
> Distribution=Linux Mint 17 Qiana
> Desktop=XFCE
> Theme=QGtk
> Language=es_ES.UTF-8
> Memory=16032M
> [Libraries]
> Cairo=libcairo.so.0.0.0
> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11301.0
> Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.7.6
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.204.0
> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1000.8
> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.23
> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
> Poppler=libpoppler.so.44.0.0
> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
>
> Regards
>

Where should they supposed to work?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From willy at ...2734...  Fri Sep 26 20:26:00 2014
From: willy at ...2734... (Willy Raets)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 20:26:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question on the .gitignore file
In-Reply-To: <54259DE1.2060007@...1...>
References: <1411743614.3481.14.camel@...3024...>
	<54259DE1.2060007@...1...>
Message-ID: <1411755960.3696.4.camel@...3024...>

On vr, 2014-09-26 at 19:09 +0200, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Le 26/09/2014 17:00, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > At work I have been playing with setting up a git repository on a server
> > to have some version control on Gambas development.
> >
> > Now I have seen that the Gambas (trunk version) default makes
> > a .gitignore file, witch is a very handy thing when working with git.
> >
> > I was wondering what is the use of ignoring the language .pot files
> > (.lang/*.pot)?
> >
> > I mean if I'm working on a local clone (lets say AClone) of the main git
> > repository on the server and I would add a new form, in a translatable
> > project, a .pot file would be generated. These are to my understanding
> > the .po template files.
> >
> > After an add and commit of working directory into origin (AClone on the
> > local machine) and next pushing it to the server, it would ignore
> > these .pot files.
> >
> > If someone (let say a translator) now clones the server to his local
> > machine (lets say B), there would be no .pot file for the new form, so
> > no template to translate.
> > Could he do translations (in BClone)? Will the IDE generate a new .pot
> > file the moment the translator (in BClone) would open the Translation
> > form?
> >
> > If it does, I have no more questions and all is okay.
> >
> > If not the translator could not do translations for the new form and
> > thus the .pot files should not be ignored in .gitignore
> >
> > Just wondering?
> >
> 
> By principle, I don't put any file that is generated in subversion, git, 
> or any version control system. Which is the case with *.pot files, that 
> are generated by the compiler (with the bytecode files stored in the 
> '.gambas' directory, that are not put into version control too).

Okay, if the .pot files are generated by compiler then they are there
when needed and all should be okay.

> 
> When you open the translation dialog, the project is compiled, so 
> normally you should not have any problem. And you must not, so if you 
> find something strange happening, tell me, it should be a bug.

I haven't encountered anything strange and after this explanation I'm
not expecting anything strange. But if I do, I'll of course report it
back.

Thanks for explaining.

-- 
Kind regards,

Willy (aka gbWilly)

http://gambasshowcase.org/
http://howtogambas.org
http://gambos.org







From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Fri Sep 26 20:33:23 2014
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 21:33:23 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Session managment
In-Reply-To: <54259D3D.4010203@...1...>
References: <CAFJMe7Rar16otVX550beA3UEyBK=O51fssTHeXvOn0Hcc87KAQ@...627...>
	<54259D3D.4010203@...1...>
Message-ID: <CAFJMe7R=7+3qL2TZOwG6hsdTncSaU8n+3WCAqkNOVHwR3=LiSQ@...627...>

> Normally with your desktop, whatever it is, run all its applications
> through session manager, which is a program that register running
> application when you quit your desktop, and run them back when you come
> back.
>
> But it needs support from the application.
>

What you mean by support from the application? That it is automatically
supported for all Gambas applications?



> Of course, if you one only one Gambas IDE window opened, you must have
> only one reopened, in the same state. If you have two, this is a bug.
>

There are two instances of my program, I think one is from startup script,
and other is from session manager.


Session management can usually be disabled globally (at least in KDE,
> from its control center).
>

My desktop is Xfce and I have disabled option "automatically save session
on logout".



Jussi


From epost at ...3323...  Fri Sep 26 23:40:55 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 23:40:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TrayIcon error
In-Reply-To: <5414C1C3.9040904@...3323...>
References: <11-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<12-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54136365.4030909@...3323...>	<5414740C.3080709@...3323...>	<5414765C.8010401@...1...>	<541477A5.2070208@...3323...>
	<5414C1C3.9040904@...3323...>
Message-ID: <5425DD67.6090501@...3323...>


Den 14. sep. 2014 00:14, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
> Den 13. sep. 2014 18:58, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
>> Den 13. sep. 2014 18:52, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
>>> Le 13/09/2014 18:42, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>>> Den 12. sep. 2014 23:19, skrev J?rn Erik M?rne:
>>>>> Hello Beno?t!
>>>>>
>>>>> If I drop a TrayIcon on my FMain and set Visible = True, there's an
>>>>> error saying: "Unable to find system tray".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [System]
>>>>> Gambas=3.5.90
>>>>> OperatingSystem=Linux
>>>>> Kernel=3.15.10-1-MANJARO
>>>>> Architecture=x86_64
>>>>> Distribution=Manjaro Linux
>>>>> Desktop=KDE4
>>>>> Theme=QtCurve
>>>>> Language=nb_NO.UTF-8
>>>>> Memory=9902M
>>>>> [Libraries]
>>>>> Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11200.16
>>>>> Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
>>>>> DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.6
>>>>> GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
>>>>> GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.401.0
>>>>> GTK+3=libgtk-3.so.0.1200.2
>>>>> GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.24
>>>>> OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
>>>>> Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
>>>>> Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
>>>>> SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
>>>> I also tried the SystemTray example, and all I get is a window with a
>>>> yellow box... nothing happens when I resize it. If I haven't done
>>>> anything wrong, it seems Gambas cannot connect to my system tray?
>>>>
>>> Please send your project. "Unable to find system tray" means that Qt was
>>> unable to find it. But it never happened here with KDE4.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>> It's attached
> I just tested this in Ubuntu 14.04 and here it runs without error, but
> there's no icon added to the tray, and when I close the window, Gambas
> "believes" it is still runnung, so I need to use stop...

Any news about this?



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 26 23:53:11 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 23:53:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Example: PhotoTouch gives error
In-Reply-To: <1411682879.5172.4.camel@...3024...>
References: <1411682879.5172.4.camel@...3024...>
Message-ID: <5425E047.2040306@...1...>

Le 26/09/2014 00:07, Willy Raets a ?crit :
> During translation of the PhotoTouch example I wanted to run and see if
> translations are correct.
>
> I got an error thrown at me stating:
> gb.qt4: DrawingArea.Painted is depricated Do not use this anymore
>
> Time for an update I guess... ;)
>

Fixed in revision #6512.

Regards,

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From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 26 23:53:31 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 23:53:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] [CRASH REPORT] any project type.
In-Reply-To: <54253294.60307@...1974...>
References: <54253294.60307@...1974...>
Message-ID: <5425E05B.9060504@...1...>

Le 26/09/2014 11:32, Ian a ?crit :
> Greetings,
>
>
> If you create a breakpoint and highlight a variable of Type 'Result' you
> get a seg fault 11.
>
> If the break point is before the result contains a value then it returns
> NULL which is expected behaviour.
> Once the Result holds a value and you highlight it, the Gambas GUI gives
> the seg fault error.
> The GUI does not crash but will continue after the clicking OK on the
> error.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Ian Roper
>

Fixed in revision #6512.

Regards,

-- 
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From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 26 23:57:25 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 23:57:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TrayIcon error
In-Reply-To: <5425DD67.6090501@...3323...>
References: <11-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<12-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54136365.4030909@...3323...>	<5414740C.3080709@...3323...>	<5414765C.8010401@...1...>	<541477A5.2070208@...3323...>
	<5414C1C3.9040904@...3323...> <5425DD67.6090501@...3323...>
Message-ID: <5425E145.6010600@...1...>

Le 26/09/2014 23:40, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>> It's attached
>> I just tested this in Ubuntu 14.04 and here it runs without error, but
>> there's no icon added to the tray, and when I close the window, Gambas
>> "believes" it is still runnung, so I need to use stop...
>
> Any news about this?
>

Well, it works as expected in KDE4 at least. And the TrayIcons are 
managed indepently, so if you close the windows, the trayicon keeps 
running (it is not owned by the window). You must explicitely close (i.e 
hide) the trayicon too to quit the application.

Are you sure that you have the system tray plasma widget in your panel?

-- 
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From epost at ...3323...  Sat Sep 27 00:15:15 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 00:15:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TrayIcon error
In-Reply-To: <5425E145.6010600@...1...>
References: <11-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<12-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54136365.4030909@...3323...>	<5414740C.3080709@...3323...>	<5414765C.8010401@...1...>	<541477A5.2070208@...3323...>	<5414C1C3.9040904@...3323...>
	<5425DD67.6090501@...3323...>
	<5425E145.6010600@...1...>
Message-ID: <5425E573.2000702@...3323...>


Den 26. sep. 2014 23:57, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 26/09/2014 23:40, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>>> It's attached
>>> I just tested this in Ubuntu 14.04 and here it runs without error, but
>>> there's no icon added to the tray, and when I close the window, Gambas
>>> "believes" it is still runnung, so I need to use stop...
>> Any news about this?
>>
> Well, it works as expected in KDE4 at least. And the TrayIcons are
> managed indepently, so if you close the windows, the trayicon keeps
> running (it is not owned by the window). You must explicitely close (i.e
> hide) the trayicon too to quit the application.
>
> Are you sure that you have the system tray plasma widget in your panel?
>

I believed I had reported back that the KDE for some reason unbeknownst 
to me just happened to work as expected here too. However, in Ubuntu, 
there's no icon in tray... This is my code:

Public Sub Form_Open()

   TrayIcon1.Picture = Picture["icon:/16/access"]
   TrayIcon1.Show()

End


Public Sub Form_Close()

   TrayIcon1.Hide()

End

Closing now works too with the .Hide() implemented :)



From jockerfox at ...626...  Sat Sep 27 18:38:58 2014
From: jockerfox at ...626... (jockerfox)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:38:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas ready for Ubuntu Phone?
Message-ID: <5426E822.6040400@...626...>

Hi to all,
is possible to run gambas project on ubutu phone ?



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 27 18:48:34 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:48:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas ready for Ubuntu Phone?
In-Reply-To: <5426E822.6040400@...626...>
References: <5426E822.6040400@...626...>
Message-ID: <5426EA62.30509@...1...>

Le 27/09/2014 18:38, jockerfox a ?crit :
> Hi to all,
> is possible to run gambas project on ubutu phone ?
>

No idea. Try and tell us. :-)

-- 
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From rmorgan62 at ...626...  Sat Sep 27 19:20:01 2014
From: rmorgan62 at ...626... (Randall Morgan)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 10:20:01 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas ready for Ubuntu Phone?
In-Reply-To: <5426EA62.30509@...1...>
References: <5426E822.6040400@...626...> <5426EA62.30509@...1...>
Message-ID: <CAGwqEL52H-GPmPRUPkJs6YOxzAzu5Gmm7RKAGMLt0FOFqG43GA@...627...>

Try Gambas compiled for Arm. I've been told it can be made to run on
Android. But I haven't tried it myself.

On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Beno?t Minisini <
gambas at ...1...> wrote:

> Le 27/09/2014 18:38, jockerfox a ?crit :
> > Hi to all,
> > is possible to run gambas project on ubutu phone ?
> >
>
> No idea. Try and tell us. :-)
>
> --
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>
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From chrisml at ...3340...  Sun Sep 28 13:17:38 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 13:17:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Auto comments in DEV Version
Message-ID: <5427EE52.2030206@...3340...>

Hi,

yesterday I installed the dev version of Gambas from Launchpad. Now I
see that auto-commenting (don't know the correct name of that feature)
doesn't work any more. That means if I'm writing a comment and press
<Return> the next line isn't commented out, as it was before.

Is there a setting for that?

Alles Gute

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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 28 13:21:19 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 13:21:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Auto comments in DEV Version
In-Reply-To: <5427EE52.2030206@...3340...>
References: <5427EE52.2030206@...3340...>
Message-ID: <5427EF2F.8040100@...1...>

Le 28/09/2014 13:17, Christof Thalhofer a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> yesterday I installed the dev version of Gambas from Launchpad. Now I
> see that auto-commenting (don't know the correct name of that feature)
> doesn't work any more. That means if I'm writing a comment and press
> <Return> the next line isn't commented out, as it was before.
>
> Is there a setting for that?
>
> Alles Gute
>
> Christof Thalhofer
>

Now you must press SHIFT+ENTER for auto-comments.

Regards,

-- 
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From chrisml at ...3340...  Sun Sep 28 14:33:15 2014
From: chrisml at ...3340... (Christof Thalhofer)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:33:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Auto comments in DEV Version
In-Reply-To: <5427EF2F.8040100@...1...> (sfid-)
References: <5427EE52.2030206@...3340...>
	<5427EF2F.8040100@...1...> (sfid-)
Message-ID: <5428000B.6090802@...3340...>

Am 28.09.2014 um 13:21 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> Now you must press SHIFT+ENTER for auto-comments.

Okay, thank you. Have a nice sunday afternoon!


Alles Gute

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From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Sun Sep 28 21:59:10 2014
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (Jesus)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:59:10 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ctrl+ +/- Zoom Shortcuts don't work anymore
In-Reply-To: <54259E08.1000408@...1...>
References: <54258BCF.3050005@...2382...>
	<54259E08.1000408@...1...>
Message-ID: <5428688E.2090501@...2382...>

El 26/09/14 a las #4, Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
> Le 26/09/2014 17:52, Jesus a ?crit :
>> Hi Beno?t et all
>>
>> Ctrl++ and Ctrl+-, even Ctrl+mouse wheel, don't work anymore in my
>> setup. I have no idea when it started happening, sorry. Currently I'm
>> using latest development version from 'gambas-team' PPA.
>>
>>
>
> Where should they supposed to work?
>

In the text editor. I remember this worked in the past. You were able to 
zoom in/out the text (size) in the code editor, right?

Regards

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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 29 00:58:21 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?UTF-8?B?QmVub8OudCBNaW5pc2luaQ==?=)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 00:58:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ctrl+ +/- Zoom Shortcuts don't work anymore
In-Reply-To: <5428688E.2090501@...2382...>
References: <54258BCF.3050005@...2382...>	<54259E08.1000408@...1...>
	<5428688E.2090501@...2382...>
Message-ID: <5428928D.5000209@...1...>

Le 28/09/2014 21:59, Jesus a ?crit :
> El 26/09/14 a las #4, Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
>> Le 26/09/2014 17:52, Jesus a ?crit :
>>> Hi Beno?t et all
>>>
>>> Ctrl++ and Ctrl+-, even Ctrl+mouse wheel, don't work anymore in my
>>> setup. I have no idea when it started happening, sorry. Currently I'm
>>> using latest development version from 'gambas-team' PPA.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Where should they supposed to work?
>>
>
> In the text editor. I remember this worked in the past. You were able to
> zoom in/out the text (size) in the code editor, right?
>
> Regards
>

Strange... I'm sure I have never implemented such a feature!

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From cybercamera at ...626...  Mon Sep 29 02:40:20 2014
From: cybercamera at ...626... (Cam Era)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 10:40:20 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas ready for Ubuntu Phone?
In-Reply-To: <CAGwqEL52H-GPmPRUPkJs6YOxzAzu5Gmm7RKAGMLt0FOFqG43GA@...627...>
References: <5426E822.6040400@...626...> <5426EA62.30509@...1...>
	<CAGwqEL52H-GPmPRUPkJs6YOxzAzu5Gmm7RKAGMLt0FOFqG43GA@...627...>
Message-ID: <CAHrmVvPMPcgqkZt_o5iau4Zbqc3DwHUEPRLeebq6Sz_Oh2Tuww@...627...>

jockerfox,

I'll be interested to hear how you go with this,

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:20 AM, Randall Morgan <rmorgan62 at ...626...> wrote:

> Try Gambas compiled for Arm. I've been told it can be made to run on
> Android. But I haven't tried it myself.
>
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Beno?t Minisini <
> gambas at ...1...> wrote:
>
> > Le 27/09/2014 18:38, jockerfox a ?crit :
> > > Hi to all,
> > > is possible to run gambas project on ubutu phone ?
> > >
> >
> > No idea. Try and tell us. :-)
> >
> > --
> > Beno?t Minisini
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
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> The correct questions however are... What will it cost, and how long will
> it take?
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From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep 29 13:48:55 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:48:55 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 564 in gambas: gambas3 doesn't build with
	llvm-3.5 [PATCH]
Message-ID: <0-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Status: New
Owner: ----
Labels: Version-3.5.0 Type-Review Priority-Medium OpSys-Any Dist-Any  
Arch-Any Desktop-Any GUI-Any

New issue 564 by costamag... at ...626...: gambas3 doesn't build with llvm-3.5  
[PATCH]
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=564

llvm-3.5 changed some headers files location, leading to a fail to build  
from source

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=763238

This patch makes gambas jit build correctly on debian with newer llvm-3.5,  
and should maintain retrocompatibility with olders llvm.

--- a/gb.jit/configure.ac
+++ b/gb.jit/configure.ac
@@ -25,7 +25,7 @@

  GB_COMPONENT(
    jit, JIT, gb.jit, [src],
-  [GB_FIND(llvm/AutoUpgrade.h llvm-c/Core.h, /usr/lib/llvm* /usr/local/lib  
/usr/local /usr/lib /usr `$LLVM_CONFIG --prefix`, include)],
+  [GB_FIND(AutoUpgrade.h llvm-c/Core.h, /usr/lib/llvm* /usr/local/lib  
/usr/local /usr/lib /usr `$LLVM_CONFIG --prefix`, include include/llvm  
include/llvm/IR)],
    [GB_FIND(libLLVM-$LLVM_VERSION.$SHLIBEXT, /usr/lib/llvm* /usr/local /usr  
`$LLVM_CONFIG --prefix`, lib)],
    [$C_LIB `$LLVM_CONFIG --ldflags` -lLLVM-$LLVM_VERSION],
    [-I../../main/gbx -I../../main/share -D_DEBUG -D_GNU_SOURCE  
-D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -D__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS])
--- a/gb.jit/src/jit.h
+++ b/gb.jit/src/jit.h
@@ -42,7 +42,13 @@
  #include "llvm/Intrinsics.h"
  #include "llvm/Instructions.h"
  #endif
+#if (LLVM_VERSION_MAJOR == 3 && LLVM_VERSION_MINOR >= 5)
+#include "llvm/IR/Verifier.h"
+#include "llvm/IR/CFG.h"
+#else
  #include "llvm/Analysis/Verifier.h"
+#include "llvm/Support/CFG.h"
+#endif
  #include "llvm/ExecutionEngine/JIT.h"
  #include "llvm/ExecutionEngine/Interpreter.h"
  #include "llvm/ExecutionEngine/GenericValue.h"
@@ -57,7 +63,6 @@
  #include "llvm/Support/IRBuilder.h"
  #endif
  #include "llvm/Support/DynamicLibrary.h"
-#include "llvm/Support/CFG.h"
  #include "llvm/PassManager.h"
  #include "llvm/Transforms/Scalar.h"
  #include "llvm/Transforms/IPO/PassManagerBuilder.h"


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From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep 29 13:59:38 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:59:38 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 564 in gambas: gambas3 doesn't build with
	llvm-3.5 [PATCH]
In-Reply-To: <0-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <0-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <1-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: Accepted

Comment #1 on issue 564 by benoit.m... at ...626...: gambas3 doesn't build  
with llvm-3.5 [PATCH]
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=564

Thanks, I will try it!

It amazes me that such a project is unable to be installed with different  
versions on the same system *and* is unable to ensure  
backward-compatibility.

You should at least have one of both!

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From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep 29 14:23:53 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 12:23:53 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 564 in gambas: gambas3 doesn't build with
	llvm-3.5 [PATCH]
In-Reply-To: <1-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <1-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <2-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>

Updates:
	Status: NeedsInfo

Comment #2 on issue 564 by benoit.m... at ...626...: gambas3 doesn't build  
with llvm-3.5 [PATCH]
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=564

The 'configure.ac' patch didn't work. Here is what I did:

  GB_COMPONENT(
    jit, JIT, gb.jit, [src],
-  [GB_FIND(llvm/AutoUpgrade.h llvm-c/Core.h, /usr/lib/llvm* /usr/local/lib  
/usr/local /usr/lib /usr `$LLVM_CONFIG --prefix`, include)],
+  [GB_FIND(llvm/Config/llvm-config.h llvm-c/Core.h, /usr/lib/llvm*  
/usr/local/lib /usr/local /usr/lib /usr `$LLVM_CONFIG --prefix`, include)],
   [GB_FIND(libLLVM-$LLVM_VERSION.$SHLIBEXT, /usr/lib/llvm* /usr/local /usr  
`$LLVM_CONFIG --prefix`, lib)],
   [$C_LIB `$LLVM_CONFIG --ldflags` -lLLVM-$LLVM_VERSION],
   [-I../../main/gbx -I../../main/share -D_DEBUG -D_GNU_SOURCE  
-D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -D__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS])

It has been committed in revision #6516. Tell me if it fixes the  
compilation with llvm 3.5, and I will close the issue.


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From gambas at ...2524...  Mon Sep 29 15:20:24 2014
From: gambas at ...2524... (gambas at ...2524...)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:20:24 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Issue 564 in gambas: gambas3 doesn't build with
	llvm-3.5 [PATCH]
In-Reply-To: <2-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
References: <2-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
	<0-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>
Message-ID: <3-6813199134517018827-15166494104811778626-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>


Comment #3 on issue 564 by costamag... at ...626...: gambas3 doesn't build  
with llvm-3.5 [PATCH]
https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=564

yes, it is fixed, right :)

thanks!

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From lists at ...2828...  Tue Sep 30 10:45:32 2014
From: lists at ...2828... (CJ)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:45:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas ready for Ubuntu Phone?
In-Reply-To: <CAHrmVvPMPcgqkZt_o5iau4Zbqc3DwHUEPRLeebq6Sz_Oh2Tuww@...627...>
Message-ID: <000001cfdc8a$e7c70090$0f00a8c0@...2829...>


> jockerfox,
> 
> I'll be interested to hear how you go with this,

Same here!

If you need compiled files for Debian ARMEL just let me know.
It would be quite easy to do a first test by copying the run
time and run a simple "Hello World".

/CJ




From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Tue Sep 30 10:59:36 2014
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:59:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextArea Pop-up Menu on right click
Message-ID: <542A70F8.50908@...221...>

Hi,

TextArea produces a pop-up menu when right-clicking on it. What can I do 
to get rid of this behavious, i. e. when I do not want the user to be 
able to manipulate the text via the pop-up menu?

Thanks for your ideas!

Rolf



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Tue Sep 30 11:41:08 2014
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:41:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Strange error after switching PopUpMenu
Message-ID: <542A7AB4.8000605@...221...>

I tried to set the PopUpMenu property in the IDE to the (one and only) 
menu "mnDatei" in the project. Suddenly I get this error:

This application has raised an unexpected
error and must abort.

Unable to load image.
CFamily.DrawIcon.258

and the IDE crashes each time I go into the Form editor. As long as I 
stay in the source editor, Gambas keeps running.

To restore the setting, I edited Form1.form and changed

{TextArea1 TextArea
.
.
PopupMenu = ""

So, it's running again, but what would you have done?

Thank you for helping

Rolf



From bbruen at ...2308...  Tue Sep 30 15:10:05 2014
From: bbruen at ...2308... (B Bruen)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:40:05 +0930
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextArea Pop-up Menu on right click
In-Reply-To: <542A70F8.50908@...221...>
References: <542A70F8.50908@...221...>
Message-ID: <20140930224005.f80431aced162daf5767cd4f@...2308...>

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:59:36 +0200
Rolf-Werner Eilert <eilert-sprachen at ...221...> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> TextArea produces a pop-up menu when right-clicking on it. What can I do 
> to get rid of this behavious, i. e. when I do not want the user to be 
> able to manipulate the text via the pop-up menu?
> 
> Thanks for your ideas!
> 
> Rolf
> 
> 
Something like 

Public Sub Form_Open()

  TextArea1.PopupMenu = "mnuDummy"
  
End

(where mnuDummy does not exist) seems to work

hth
B
-- 
B Bruen <bbruen at ...2308...>



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 30 15:28:09 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:28:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Strange error after switching PopUpMenu
In-Reply-To: <542A7AB4.8000605@...221...>
References: <542A7AB4.8000605@...221...>
Message-ID: <542AAFE9.6040808@...1...>

Le 30/09/2014 11:41, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit :
> I tried to set the PopUpMenu property in the IDE to the (one and only)
> menu "mnDatei" in the project. Suddenly I get this error:
>
> This application has raised an unexpected
> error and must abort.
>
> Unable to load image.
> CFamily.DrawIcon.258
>
> and the IDE crashes each time I go into the Form editor. As long as I
> stay in the source editor, Gambas keeps running.
>
> To restore the setting, I edited Form1.form and changed
>
> {TextArea1 TextArea
> .
> .
> PopupMenu = ""
>
> So, it's running again, but what would you have done?
>
> Thank you for helping
>
> Rolf
>

I cannot reproduce that. Please send your project in the "crashing" state.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 30 15:29:05 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:29:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextArea Pop-up Menu on right click
In-Reply-To: <542A70F8.50908@...221...>
References: <542A70F8.50908@...221...>
Message-ID: <542AB021.7090107@...1...>

Le 30/09/2014 10:59, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> TextArea produces a pop-up menu when right-clicking on it. What can I do
> to get rid of this behavious, i. e. when I do not want the user to be
> able to manipulate the text via the pop-up menu?
>
> Thanks for your ideas!
>
> Rolf
>

Either set the "PopupMenu" property, or implement the "Menu" event handler.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep 30 16:07:18 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:07:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Strange error after switching PopUpMenu
In-Reply-To: <542A7AB4.8000605@...221...>
References: <542A7AB4.8000605@...221...>
Message-ID: <20140930140718.GA1292@...2774...>

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> I tried to set the PopUpMenu property in the IDE to the (one and only) 
> menu "mnDatei" in the project. Suddenly I get this error:
> 
> This application has raised an unexpected
> error and must abort.
> 
> Unable to load image.
> CFamily.DrawIcon.258
> 
> and the IDE crashes each time I go into the Form editor. As long as I 
> stay in the source editor, Gambas keeps running.
> 
> To restore the setting, I edited Form1.form and changed
> 
> {TextArea1 TextArea
> .
> .
> PopupMenu = ""
> 
> So, it's running again, but what would you have done?
> 

I know this error, too (had it 2 or 3 times), and I fixed it exactly as you
did. But I could never reproduce any of the occurences, sadly...

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From taboege at ...626...  Tue Sep 30 16:11:17 2014
From: taboege at ...626... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:11:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Strange error after switching PopUpMenu
In-Reply-To: <20140930140718.GA1292@...2774...>
References: <542A7AB4.8000605@...221...>
 <20140930140718.GA1292@...2774...>
Message-ID: <20140930141117.GB1292@...2774...>

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> > I tried to set the PopUpMenu property in the IDE to the (one and only) 
> > menu "mnDatei" in the project. Suddenly I get this error:
> > 
> > This application has raised an unexpected
> > error and must abort.
> > 
> > Unable to load image.
> > CFamily.DrawIcon.258
> > 
> > and the IDE crashes each time I go into the Form editor. As long as I 
> > stay in the source editor, Gambas keeps running.
> > 
> > To restore the setting, I edited Form1.form and changed
> > 
> > {TextArea1 TextArea
> > .
> > .
> > PopupMenu = ""
> > 
> > So, it's running again, but what would you have done?
> > 
> 
> I know this error, too (had it 2 or 3 times), and I fixed it exactly as you
> did. But I could never reproduce any of the occurences, sadly...
> 

Also, my errors likely weren't related to menus. I don't normally touch the
menu editor.

-- 
"There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Tue Sep 30 16:42:19 2014
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:42:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Strange error after switching PopUpMenu
In-Reply-To: <20140930141117.GB1292@...2774...>
References: <542A7AB4.8000605@...221...> <20140930140718.GA1292@...2774...>
	<20140930141117.GB1292@...2774...>
Message-ID: <542AC14B.1080501@...221...>



Am 30.09.2014 16:11, schrieb Tobias Boege:
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Tobias Boege wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>>> I tried to set the PopUpMenu property in the IDE to the (one and only)
>>> menu "mnDatei" in the project. Suddenly I get this error:
>>>
>>> This application has raised an unexpected
>>> error and must abort.
>>>
>>> Unable to load image.
>>> CFamily.DrawIcon.258
>>>
>>> and the IDE crashes each time I go into the Form editor. As long as I
>>> stay in the source editor, Gambas keeps running.
>>>
>>> To restore the setting, I edited Form1.form and changed
>>>
>>> {TextArea1 TextArea
>>> .
>>> .
>>> PopupMenu = ""
>>>
>>> So, it's running again, but what would you have done?
>>>
>>
>> I know this error, too (had it 2 or 3 times), and I fixed it exactly as you
>> did. But I could never reproduce any of the occurences, sadly...
>>
>
> Also, my errors likely weren't related to menus. I don't normally touch the
> menu editor.
>

Yes you seem to be right here!

Although the PopupMenu property has been changed, it still crashes. I 
tried around with it a bit and found that when I go with the mouse over 
a certain point in the form, it crashes.

Well, that maybe random, but it might point to the reason at least.

I attach the project. When you load it, you will land in the source 
editor. Switch to Form1.form. Nothing should happen at once. When you 
hover with the mouse over the form at about the point where the LCD zero 
is, the error occurs.

Obviously, the form editor looks for an icon it has to show here...

Rolf
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From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Tue Sep 30 16:43:15 2014
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:43:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Strange error after switching PopUpMenu
In-Reply-To: <542AAFE9.6040808@...1...>
References: <542A7AB4.8000605@...221...>
	<542AAFE9.6040808@...1...>
Message-ID: <542AC183.2040903@...221...>



Am 30.09.2014 15:28, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 30/09/2014 11:41, Rolf-Werner Eilert a ?crit :
>> I tried to set the PopUpMenu property in the IDE to the (one and only)
>> menu "mnDatei" in the project. Suddenly I get this error:
>>
>> This application has raised an unexpected
>> error and must abort.
>>
>> Unable to load image.
>> CFamily.DrawIcon.258
>>
>> and the IDE crashes each time I go into the Form editor. As long as I
>> stay in the source editor, Gambas keeps running.
>>
>> To restore the setting, I edited Form1.form and changed
>>
>> {TextArea1 TextArea
>> .
>> .
>> PopupMenu = ""
>>
>> So, it's running again, but what would you have done?
>>
>> Thank you for helping
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>
> I cannot reproduce that. Please send your project in the "crashing" state.
>
> Regards,
>

I answered to a mail of Tobias and attached it there. Did it reach you, 
or was it blocked by the list?

Regards
Rolf



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 30 18:07:56 2014
From: gambas at ...1... (=?windows-1252?Q?Beno=EEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:07:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TrayIcon error
In-Reply-To: <542AD442.4030702@...3323...>
References: <11-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<12-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54136365.4030909@...3323...>	<5414740C.3080709@...3323...>	<5414765C.8010401@...1...>	<541477A5.2070208@...3323...>	<5414C1C3.9040904@...3323...>
	<5425DD67.6090501@...3323...>
	<5425E145.6010600@...1...>
	<5425E573.2000702@...3323...>
	<542609ED.2070308@...1...>
	<542ABC66.60902@...1...>
	<542AD442.4030702@...3323...>
Message-ID: <542AD55C.4080003@...1...>

Le 30/09/2014 18:03, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>> Maybe I guess what you meant: trayicons do not display in the Ubuntu
>> Unity desktop?
>>
>> Ubuntu decided to drop support for tray icons because they don't care
>> anymore, this is the past, get rid of the past, break applications,
>> welcome to the new indicator protocols with all documentation links
>> poiting at error 404 pages. All other desktops keep supporting tray
>> icons, even Gnome!
>>
>> So I have no immediate solution for that. I just have to implement the
>> new protocol. But I must find where they put the documentation on the
>> internet (if they did). Otherwise I have to deep into KDE source code
>> to understand it (they implemented the protocol for KDE apps, but not
>> for Qt yet).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
> To me I always thought Ubuntu was synonymous with Unity, and other DEs
> was Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu Gnome, ...
>

This is maybe what they want you to think. :-)

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From epost at ...3323...  Tue Sep 30 18:09:40 2014
From: epost at ...3323... (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F8rn_Erik_M=F8rne?=)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:09:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TrayIcon error
In-Reply-To: <542AD55C.4080003@...1...>
References: <11-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<0-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<12-6813199134517018827-13382408978934772771-gambas=googlecode.com@...2524...>	<54136365.4030909@...3323...>	<5414740C.3080709@...3323...>	<5414765C.8010401@...1...>	<541477A5.2070208@...3323...>	<5414C1C3.9040904@...3323...>
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	<5425E145.6010600@...1...>
	<5425E573.2000702@...3323...>
	<542609ED.2070308@...1...>
	<542ABC66.60902@...1...>
	<542AD442.4030702@...3323...>
	<542AD55C.4080003@...1...>
Message-ID: <542AD5C4.8020108@...3323...>


Den 30. sep. 2014 18:07, skrev Beno?t Minisini:
> Le 30/09/2014 18:03, J?rn Erik M?rne a ?crit :
>>> Maybe I guess what you meant: trayicons do not display in the Ubuntu
>>> Unity desktop?
>>>
>>> Ubuntu decided to drop support for tray icons because they don't care
>>> anymore, this is the past, get rid of the past, break applications,
>>> welcome to the new indicator protocols with all documentation links
>>> poiting at error 404 pages. All other desktops keep supporting tray
>>> icons, even Gnome!
>>>
>>> So I have no immediate solution for that. I just have to implement the
>>> new protocol. But I must find where they put the documentation on the
>>> internet (if they did). Otherwise I have to deep into KDE source code
>>> to understand it (they implemented the protocol for KDE apps, but not
>>> for Qt yet).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>> To me I always thought Ubuntu was synonymous with Unity, and other DEs
>> was Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu Gnome, ...
>>
>
> This is maybe what they want you to think. :-)
>
Haha, perhaps :)