[Gambas-user] gb.Chart capabilities

[Fernando Martins]

in my understanding it is gb.chart, because:

- it is somewhat more general than "plot" (which used to be more related 
to dot based graphs). plot is also associated with planning

- "graph" would be semantically correct but it is ambiguous with the 
data structure made of nodes connected by edges. Since it is conceivable 
to have a a gb component for this data structure, and this data 
structure is mostly known as  "graph" ("net" is an alternative but I 
think very uncommon). Translations of "graph" also creates problems 
leading to the meaning of images.

- "chart" conflicts with "map", but then "map" could always be used for 
a gambas map component.



On 09/27/2013 08:36 AM, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> So do to short ... what must be the name of this new component ? ..
>
> gb.chart?
> gb.plot ?
> gb.graph ?
>
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> 2013/9/27 Bruce <bbruen at ...2308...>
>
>> On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 17:51 -0700, Randall Morgan wrote:
>>> Yes, but charting can also be used for plotting a course for sailing or
>>> flying... As in charting a course.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Fernando Martins <fernando at ...3175...
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> well, it also means charting :)
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+graph
>>>>
>>>> /"verb/
>>>> verb: *graph*; 3rd person present: *graphs*; past tense: *graphed*;
>> past
>>>> participle: *graphed*; gerund or present participle: *graphing*
>>>> *1*.
>>>> plot or trace on a graph."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/24/2013 07:50 PM, Fabien Bodard wrote:
>>>>> Ok ok its a french error... We name that a "graphique" in French. :-D
>>>>> Le 24 sept. 2013 17:20, "Randall Morgan" <rmorgan62 at ...626...> a
>> écrit :
>>>>>> I would agree! There are many mathematical applications for graph
>> types
>>>> and
>>>>>> several data structures for them Avoiding the use of the word graph
>> and
>>>>>> using plot would be much better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Tobias Boege <taboege at ...626...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sep 2013, Fabien Bodard wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi ru ... Maybe it interest you to help me to redraw gb.graph...
>> This
>>>>>>>> component is out of date.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One small thing: Please remember that "Graph" could equivalently
>> well
>>>> be
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> abstract datatype in gb.data. If it's still meaningful then, I'd
>>>> suggest
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> call the classes in gb.graph something around "Plot". I think you
>> have
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> opportunity to do so. I don't know any other name for the Graph
>>>> datatype.
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Tobi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> "There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever!" -- Mr. Monk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> In fact (my 2 cents) I would tend to use "chart" as the overall largest
>> object.  You could plot a course from (say) Normandy to Hastings on a
>> nautical chart but you could also plot a set of isobars on a map of your
>> local area and produce a "weather chart", plot a set of dance steps on
>> paper to produce a choreographic chart, etc.
>>
>> My vision would be a chart is a single graphical output from the
>> underlying engine. On that would be one or more plots that depict a
>> certain set of data.
>>
>> Certainly, "graph" has a particular mathematical meaning (nodes and
>> edges) that could have conflicts as abstract data types. I agree with
>> Tobi that it would be better to avoid it.
>>
>> Nautically, a chart is a single instance of "a piece of paper" with
>> certain attributes like a title, a set of co-ordinates, some "pretty"
>> features, an identity etc that you use locally to plot a course or
>> something.  Also, although I'm linguistically challenged I believe that
>> "chart" and "plot" have fairly parallel translations - Carte,
>> Kart?,sjökort etc and tracer, plotten, plotta etc  whereas "graph" tends
>> to translate more generically as a "picture" - graphique, Grafik, graf
>> etc.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
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