[Gambas-user] myZone4

Girard Henri girardhenri at ...67...
Thu Oct 6 16:41:29 CEST 2011 

Hello Andrea,

I am unfortunatly not a good developer but i can translate (From italian 
into french wasn't too easy as I never learned italian) but i know 
english spanish and german.

There are some little details to correct in french because field or 
label aren't exactly the same size when translated, I think it's in 
gambas3, i am having a look.
Can you give me an access to your svn ? I have one for a spanish 
accounting called : bulmages (which is git now), or I can send you fr.po 
when I correct it :)

regards,
Henri


Le 06/10/2011 10:58, Andrea Bertini a écrit :
> @Kevin Fishburne
> thx:-)
>
>
>
>
> @Girard Henri
> thx for your future help. if You want to contribute to myZone4 please write
> me.
> Code source is located @ sourceforge. I wait for you!
>
> ps. i need help about the code to insert. I have a form option where user
> can choose the
> preferred language.
>
> At first, i think to add the following languages: french, english, spanish,
> german.
> Helpers will be appreciate.
>
>
>
> Andrea BERTINI
> Rome-Italy
>
>
>
>
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>>    1. Re: myZone4 (Kevin Fishburne)
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>>    3. Re: Issue 2 in gambas: No native gambas for Windows platforms
>>       (Kevin Fishburne)
>>    4. Re: Dialog.SaveFile() and Dialog.Path problem (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
>>    5. Re: myZone4 (Girard Henri)
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>> ---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
>> From: Kevin Fishburne<kevinfishburne at ...1887...>
>> To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 01:16:56 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] myZone4
>> On 10/05/2011 03:17 PM, Andrea Bertini wrote:
>>
>>> i'm happy to annunce the release of my software myZone4, made with
>>> Gambas3. myZone, now nationalized only in italian (but i plan to support
>>> other languages), is a nutritional and sport software.
>>>
>>> You can find it at my Sourceforge page, http://myzone.sourceforge.net/
>>> My blog related is http://myzone4.tumblr.com/
>>>
>>> I want to thank my Gambas-it's friends Milio and Golia for their
>>> support.
>>>
>> Congrats. :)
>>
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>> ---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
>> From: Kevin Fishburne<kevinfishburne at ...1887...>
>> To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 01:20:37 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] gb3: unable to compile on Debian Wheezy
>> (testing)
>> On 10/05/2011 06:20 AM, doriano.blengino at ...1909... wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce Bruen ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 01:19 -0400, Kevin Fishburne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully the Debian or Mint team will get this mess sorted out so gb3
>>>>> can compile without hacks. Thanks for the help anyway, and for anyone
>>>>> else who sees GNOME as the walking dead, I highly recommend Kubuntu or
>>>>> any other well-supported KDE distribution. I should have done this a
>>>>> long time ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   I feel your pain but it has sparked my interest following both your and
>>>> Demosthenes Koptsis posts. I think that there are a few issues here that
>>>> I may be able to offer some helpful comments on.
>>>>
>>>>   Hi Bruce,
>>> I liked your post, and your coloured english (especially those dinosaurs
>>> starting to feel chilly) :-)
>>>
>> I'm Kevin, but that's okay. ;)
>>
>>   I totally agree with you - there are some standards and they should be
>>> respected in the interest of all the community. In particular, given
>>> that a libray in */lib (but the same is for include files and
>>> executables in */bin) *cannot* be 32 bit and 64 bit at the same time, it
>>> is clear that a file system is linked to the processor which uses it (at
>>> least for the processor-dependent files). There are in fact special
>>> directories for system-independent files.
>>>
>>> If some mind-broken distributions want to kill simplicity by creating
>>> unnecessary directories, they should use symlinks. Ok, they could forget
>>> to set up them (this would be a "bug" for me).
>>>
>>> That said, I would add that a user should know the bases for using his
>>> computer. This means that if a user downloads some sources with svn and
>>> compiles them, he should be able to interpret simple make's errors like
>>> "file not found", without asking the author of the sources "why can't I
>>> compile your software?". Reading documents and learning things is
>>> satisfactory and good for any user. Lacking of doing this leads to think
>>> that the guilty one is always someone else: the distribution, the
>>> compiler, the author of the sources, the mailing lists giving wrong
>>> advice and so on. There is too much people that press a button and
>>> expect that everything goes well like magic and, if something goes
>>> wrong, not even ask themselves what they could do to solve. Speaking
>>> about computers, "magic" will be never possible...
>>> No offence intended - I understand that the matter of compiling things
>>> under *nix could be a good choice for a bestseller.
>>>
>> I agree to an extent. Some users just want everything to work so they can
>> get their work done; their OS is a tool to an end. Other users don't get
>> much work done but play with their OS all day long and become OS gurus.
>> Everyone falls somewhere along that scale. I know a lot from a user's
>> perspective, some from a sysadmin's perspective, and have to balance that
>> with the work I'm trying to accomplish and life in general.
>>
>>   Marginally, I noted those complains about Debian and Gnome. Probably no
>>> distributions are perfect, but surely Debian is one of the most
>>> respectable - I simply love it because of its vision. By the way, KDE is
>>> available in Debian. And about KDE, I just switched from it to Gnome
>>> some months ago, and I don't regret. I never tried the latest Gnome, but
>>> it is hard for me to think that it is only crap.
>>>
>> I like Debian and consider it the mother distro. It's essential. I do think
>> of it as a new house which hasn't yet been visited by the interior
>> decorators or furniture movers, though. It always seems to need some love,
>> and distros based on Debian seem to give it the polish it needs. Debian was
>> my first, and you never forget your first, haha.
>>
>> I like the GNOME 2.x branch and have used it since I first used GNU/Linux.
>> My problem with 3.x is that there's no "there" there. It's like they started
>> from scratch, got the bare minimum of work done, then released it. If 2.x
>> had 100 features then 3.x has 10. No configuration options at all. It's
>> static. Imagine a restaurant with one item on the menu and you can't even
>> tell them "no onions, please". I'm not joking...give it a try in a VM and
>> try customizing it.
>>
>> Anyway, like sensei Benoît wisely said, "Do what is better for you". I'm
>> satisfied, finally.
>>
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>> ---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
>> From: Kevin Fishburne<kevinfishburne at ...1887...>
>> To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 01:26:45 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Issue 2 in gambas: No native gambas for Windows
>> platforms
>> On 10/05/2011 06:06 PM, Dag-Jarle Johansen wrote:
>>
>>> Hei, want to plug in on this discussion. by the way, "issue" is not
>>> particulary something negative, issue just means "case", but I know in the
>>> IT-world it*s mostly a case of a bug or a problem.
>>>
>>> I do not want Benoit to get sleepless nights, but it would be a
>>> masterpiece
>>> to get Gambas running under Windows. Running, not developing. Still MS has
>>> a
>>> world-part of over 80%, Max I don*t know, and the last what I saw, was
>>> Linux
>>> at 5%. So there is a lot to do, I ll do my part - sough - I just do know
>>> so
>>> little. If I have luck now, I will become a certain amount monthly, so I
>>> will not have to sell any more, in this case I will use all my time beeing
>>> a
>>> Gambas expert. But - for that your skillls are asked, to help me getting
>>> on.
>>> I am still too much the VB-programmer, and what hurts is the lack of the
>>> TYPE as in an array, beyond that I am not missing much. Back to MS - it is
>>> to concider what they are doing. My pa has a W7 here, they are flipping
>>> out,
>>> and since my last programmers attempts was on a XP, and not with .NET, I
>>> just skipped it, I do not know. The central registration must be horrible,
>>> already in XP they started to save accessed fields in the registry - with
>>> the 5 last used values. C+/+ is very fast reading textfiles, but if you
>>> have
>>> to do it all the time - the machine gets slow.
>>>
>>> Ok some of my thoughts,
>>> not very pragmatic, but I think we should know what we are handling with:
>>> 80
>>> to 5 % for example.Gambas could double that, it is the best piece of
>>> developing software near and far.
>>>
>>  From what I gather, getting GAMBAS to run on Windows proper would require
>> all dependencies to also work under Windows. Windows is also a moving target
>> but unlike Linux is largely backward-incompatible and would require all
>> kinds of hand-holding to get something working under each Windows version.
>> In other words, it would be an infinitely labor-intensive mess. This is
>> unfortunate, as I would like to see GAMBAS work in Windows as well. The
>> silver lining is that GAMBAS shows Windows up; it embarrasses it and lets
>> people know they can craft powerful and robust programs using a different
>> ecosystem entirely. Streamlined virtualization under Windows is probably the
>> best-case usage of GAMBAS, using something like andLinux.
>>
>> --
>> Kevin Fishburne
>> Eight Virtues
>> www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com
>> e-mail: sales at ...1887...
>> phone: (770) 853-6271
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>>
>> ---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
>> From: Rolf-Werner Eilert<eilert-sprachen at ...221...>
>> To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:23:49 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Dialog.SaveFile() and Dialog.Path problem
>> Am 06.10.2011 00:26, schrieb Demosthenes Koptsis:
>>
>>> The Project141 is attached if anyone want to check it out.
>>> i have a path with Greek-Latin characters but this is not the problem.
>>> i moved the project's folder to /home/user and the problem is the same.
>>>
>>> 1) What is the problem.
>>> When i run the code
>>>
>>> Dialog.Path = Application.Path
>>> If Dialog.SaveFile() Then Return
>>>
>>> The Save dialog shows but it point to a folder upper than
>>> Application.Path
>>>
>>> for example if
>>> Application.Path="/home/user/**Project141"
>>>
>>> the dialog shows /home/user
>>>
>> Try "/home/user/Project141/" - does it help?
>>
>>   2) second problem.
>>> The path at the top of dialog is not shown correctly. Some characters or
>>> whole words are missing.
>>>
>>> Is this because of Greek letters in path?
>>>
>>>
>>> See screenshots from Open File and Save File dialogs
>>>
>>>
>> In the GUI you use, can you change the standard font for dialogs? It looks
>> as if the font for the trees offers greek letters, the one for the labels in
>> the dialogs does not.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
>> From: Girard Henri<girardhenri at ...67...>
>> To: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:34:27 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] myZone4
>> Thanks for your application :)
>> I translated it in french if you want to add the fr.po it's included :)
>> regards
>> Henri
>>
>>
>> Le 05/10/2011 21:17, Andrea Bertini a écrit :
>>
>>> i'm happy to annunce the release of my software myZone4, made with
>>> Gambas3. myZone, now nationalized only in italian (but i plan to support
>>> other languages), is a nutritional and sport software.
>>>
>>> You can find it at my Sourceforge page, http://myzone.sourceforge.net/
>>> My blog related is http://myzone4.tumblr.com/
>>>
>>> I want to thank my Gambas-it's friends Milio and Golia for their
>>> support.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
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