From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Wed Sep  1 00:54:03 2010
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (EA7DFH)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:54:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Controls by code are invisible in Gnome
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   El 31/08/10 22:50, Fabi??n Flores Vadell escribi??:

I was testing a custom control in a Ubuntu 9.10 virtualized by
VirtualBox (using Gambas 2.18), and my controls become invisible in
execution time. This not happens on Kubuntu 10.04 on virtualbox too
(using Gambas 2.20).

I was suprized when I verified that the same happens with controls
provided by Gambas,  What's could be happening?

'lbl1 is invisible in time execution
PUBLIC SUB _new()
  DIM lbl1 AS NEW Label(ME)

  lbl1.Text = "Hi people"
END

  

   You forgot to mention this only happens when using gb.gui in Gnome or gb.gtk
   specifically.
   Regards,
--
Jesus Guardon


From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Wed Sep  1 01:11:35 2010
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (EA7DFH)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:11:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Controls by code are invisible in Gnome
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El 31/08/10 22:50, Fabi?n Flores Vadell escribi?:
> I was testing a custom control in a Ubuntu 9.10 virtualized by
> VirtualBox (using Gambas 2.18), and my controls become invisible in
> execution time. This not happens on Kubuntu 10.04 on virtualbox too
> (using Gambas 2.20).
> 
> I was suprized when I verified that the same happens with controls
> provided by Gambas,  What's could be happening?
> 
> 'lbl1 is invisible in time execution
> PUBLIC SUB _new()
>   DIM lbl1 AS NEW Label(ME)
> 
>   lbl1.Text = "Hi people"
> END
> 

Sorry for re-posting... I've clicked the Send button too early!

May be you need to specify X, Y coordinates and size for the new widget
to be positioned on your form?

-- 
Jesus, EA7DFH



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Wed Sep  1 02:06:56 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:06:56 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Controls by code are invisible in Gnome
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2010/8/31 EA7DFH <ea7dfh at ...2382...>:

> You forgot to mention this only happens when using gb.gui in Gnome or gb.gtk
> specifically.

Thanks for the correction.

> Sorry for re-posting... I've clicked the Send button too early!
>
> May be you need to specify X, Y coordinates and size for the new widget
> to be positioned on your form?

I tried that, but isn't the problem.


-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From robert1juhasz at ...626...  Wed Sep  1 09:49:08 2010
From: robert1juhasz at ...626... (JUHASZ Robert)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:49:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
In-Reply-To: <201008301646.14018.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTi=fPWCz6B2UMhXjGZ2zFwHwzuzRCw7W4UYaw_MA@...627...>
	<201008301514.24979.gambas@...1...>
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Benoit,

I just updated to the 2.21 version, revision 3173.
Checking with the previously attached file gives the same behavior :-(

Did I do something wrong with the update or the bug survived ?

Robi

-----Original Message-----
From: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
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<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
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Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:46:13 +0200


> > Hello List,
> > 
> > I found a strange behavior of the tableview control. I use Gambas 2.20,
> > qt, on ubuntu 10.04.
> > 
> > I try to create an editable table.
> > As long as I use only text input, it works fine.
> > As long as I use lists or text and list but with unprotected
> > (readonly=false, as by default) lists, it works fine. In this case I can
> > use the arrows to move up and down, left and right. It is very
> > comfortable. As long as I use protected lists (readonly=true) it works
> > fine as well, except that I cannot move left and right with the arrows.
> > It is less comfortable but still okay.
> > 
> > The problem comes when I use some columns with protected and some others
> > with unprotected lists.
> > In this case, when I use the arrows for moving horizontally and I move
> > from an unprotected cell to a protected one, it crashes the code with an
> > error message about the combo box.
> > 
> > If I was not clear then take the attached code, select a cell and move by
> > pressing the arrows. The middle column is "unprotected".
> > 
> > 
> > Can someone tell me if it's a bug or what should I do different?
> > 
> > Thx,
> > Robi
> 
> This was a bug! Can you try the revision #3162 to tell me if it works
> better for you?

No, try revision #3164 instead, it is better. :-)



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Wed Sep  1 14:24:51 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 09:24:51 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Inconsistent initialization in controls: seems a
	little bug
Message-ID: <AANLkTinNsdx+CQ6hHU6JSXNcr7S-94CmQDxewF=yGfd4@...627...>

I tested this only for control Label:

When a control label is created in execution time using gb.qt, then
control become visible just after assign a value at the Text property:

  PUBLIC SUB _New()

    DIM lbl1 AS NEW Label(ME)

    lbl1.Text = "Hi people"

  END

But if you write the same code in a form using gb.gtk, the control
Label keeps invisible until the properties X, Y, Width and Height gets
values.

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  1 19:45:14 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 19:45:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Inconsistent initialization in controls: seems a
	little bug
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinNsdx+CQ6hHU6JSXNcr7S-94CmQDxewF=yGfd4@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinNsdx+CQ6hHU6JSXNcr7S-94CmQDxewF=yGfd4@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009011945.14184.gambas@...1...>

> I tested this only for control Label:
> 
> When a control label is created in execution time using gb.qt, then
> control become visible just after assign a value at the Text property:
> 
>   PUBLIC SUB _New()
> 
>     DIM lbl1 AS NEW Label(ME)
> 
>     lbl1.Text = "Hi people"
> 
>   END
> 
> But if you write the same code in a form using gb.gtk, the control
> Label keeps invisible until the properties X, Y, Width and Height gets
> values.

I'm inclined to prefer the gb.gtk behaviour than the gb.qt one, aren't you?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  1 19:46:35 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 19:46:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
In-Reply-To: <1283327348.1808.11.camel@...2425...>
References: <AANLkTi=fPWCz6B2UMhXjGZ2zFwHwzuzRCw7W4UYaw_MA@...627...>
	<201008301646.14018.gambas@...1...>
	<1283327348.1808.11.camel@...2425...>
Message-ID: <201009011946.35390.gambas@...1...>

> Benoit,
> 
> I just updated to the 2.21 version, revision 3173.
> Checking with the previously attached file gives the same behavior :-(
> 
> Did I do something wrong with the update or the bug survived ?
> 
> Robi
> 

Are you sure that you recompile things correctly? I have tested with the 
example you provided me.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  1 19:47:59 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 19:47:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
In-Reply-To: <201009011946.35390.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTi=fPWCz6B2UMhXjGZ2zFwHwzuzRCw7W4UYaw_MA@...627...>
	<1283327348.1808.11.camel@...2425...>
	<201009011946.35390.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <201009011948.00011.gambas@...1...>

> > Benoit,
> > 
> > I just updated to the 2.21 version, revision 3173.
> > Checking with the previously attached file gives the same behavior :-(
> > 
> > Did I do something wrong with the update or the bug survived ?
> > 
> > Robi
> 
> Are you sure that you recompile things correctly? I have tested with the
> example you provided me.

Sorry, I didn't see that with gb.gtk there is another problem!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  1 22:02:24 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 22:02:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
In-Reply-To: <201009011948.00011.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTi=fPWCz6B2UMhXjGZ2zFwHwzuzRCw7W4UYaw_MA@...627...>
	<201009011946.35390.gambas@...1...>
	<201009011948.00011.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <201009012202.24603.gambas@...1...>

> > > Benoit,
> > > 
> > > I just updated to the 2.21 version, revision 3173.
> > > Checking with the previously attached file gives the same behavior :-(
> > > 
> > > Did I do something wrong with the update or the bug survived ?
> > > 
> > > Robi
> > 
> > Are you sure that you recompile things correctly? I have tested with the
> > example you provided me.
> 
> Sorry, I didn't see that with gb.gtk there is another problem!

Is it better with revision #3174?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...  Wed Sep  1 23:19:30 2010
From: dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312... (Dag Jarle Johansen)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 18:19:30 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Your energy
In-Reply-To: <201009012202.24603.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTi=fPWCz6B2UMhXjGZ2zFwHwzuzRCw7W4UYaw_MA@...627...>
	<201009011946.35390.gambas@...1...>
	<201009011948.00011.gambas@...1...>
	<201009012202.24603.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1777848CF06ADE71E1409A4F98B0@...693...>

Hola, Benoit.

this is no mail because of things not happening - this is a mail of
admiretance,
I was a little silent in the last months, because I have to write some
stuff in PHP. Facebook-stuff MS I hate it, but that is money. Plenty. I
really even have to do it, but I see it as a challenge - old guy making
young people happy. 

Now to Gambas - JUST GREAT - in every means - how do manage that? 
How do you at all manage all that mails? You are so fast in everything
you are doing, I am very impressed.

Saludos,
Dag



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Thu Sep  2 01:03:06 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 20:03:06 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Inconsistent initialization in controls: seems a
 little bug
In-Reply-To: <201009011945.14184.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTinNsdx+CQ6hHU6JSXNcr7S-94CmQDxewF=yGfd4@...627...>
	<201009011945.14184.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinJ_FQBP=6bgPyNFD357Y2wJr0B6gksv9QWQ4CP@...627...>

2010/9/1 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> I'm inclined to prefer the gb.gtk behaviour than the gb.qt one, aren't you?

Uhm... when a label is drawed on a form by double clicking on its icon
in the toolbox, the label appears on X=0 Y=0, its Text property is set
to "LabelX" and its Width adjusts to Text property. I think than this
behavior should be consistent with the initialization that take place
when controls are created by code, too.

I think that if the behavior is consistent, choose by one or another
isn't significant for programmers. But student or begginers may be
keeps in their retinas the behavior that they saw when creating
controls on the form editor, and they expect that the same happens
when they create controls by code.

My preference is to the more intuitive behavior... that seems to me is
the gb.qt.

Thanks for consider my opinion.


-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From robert1juhasz at ...626...  Thu Sep  2 10:03:26 2010
From: robert1juhasz at ...626... (JUHASZ Robert)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:03:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
In-Reply-To: <201009012202.24603.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTi=fPWCz6B2UMhXjGZ2zFwHwzuzRCw7W4UYaw_MA@...627...>
	<201009011946.35390.gambas@...1...>
	<201009011948.00011.gambas@...1...>
	<201009012202.24603.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1283414606.1665.10.camel@...2425...>

Salut Benoit,

I tested the last version with the different components:

gb.qt: still the same problem (ComboBox is read-only)
gb.qtk: OK
gb.gui: OK

I use gb.qt.

Robi

-----Original Message-----
From: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
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To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 22:02:24 +0200


> > > Benoit,
> > > 
> > > I just updated to the 2.21 version, revision 3173.
> > > Checking with the previously attached file gives the same behavior :-(
> > > 
> > > Did I do something wrong with the update or the bug survived ?
> > > 
> > > Robi
> > 
> > Are you sure that you recompile things correctly? I have tested with the
> > example you provided me.
> 
> Sorry, I didn't see that with gb.gtk there is another problem!

Is it better with revision #3174?



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Thu Sep  2 10:21:23 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:21:23 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Inconsistent initialization in controls: seems a
 little bug
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinJ_FQBP=6bgPyNFD357Y2wJr0B6gksv9QWQ4CP@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinNsdx+CQ6hHU6JSXNcr7S-94CmQDxewF=yGfd4@...627...>	<201009011945.14184.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTinJ_FQBP=6bgPyNFD357Y2wJr0B6gksv9QWQ4CP@...627...>
Message-ID: <4C7F5E83.8000503@...1909...>

Fabi?n Flores Vadell ha scritto:
> 2010/9/1 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>   
>> I'm inclined to prefer the gb.gtk behaviour than the gb.qt one, aren't you?
>>     
>
> Uhm... when a label is drawed on a form by double clicking on its icon
> in the toolbox, the label appears on X=0 Y=0, its Text property is set
> to "LabelX" and its Width adjusts to Text property. I think than this
> behavior should be consistent with the initialization that take place
> when controls are created by code, too.
>   
I agree - consistency; but the center question is the AutoResize 
property. If it is true by default, then the widget should show as soon 
as its text property is set to something "visible". If it is false, then 
the widget should not resize and, doing so, it should keep its default 
size. If its default size is zero, then the widget is invisible. The 
Autoresize seems to default to false, so gtk seems more logical.

Anyway, I believe that interactive editing of a form, and creatiaon of 
controls by code, are two different situations, with different 
requirements. Consistency is desirable, if it does not clash with 
something else more important.

Regards,
Doriano



> I think that if the behavior is consistent, choose by one or another
> isn't significant for programmers. But student or begginers may be
> keeps in their retinas the behavior that they saw when creating
> controls on the form editor, and they expect that the same happens
> when they create controls by code.
>
> My preference is to the more intuitive behavior... that seems to me is
> the gb.qt.
>
> Thanks for consider my opinion.
>
>
>   



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Thu Sep  2 10:39:51 2010
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:39:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to realize AND, OR etc.
Message-ID: <4C7F62D7.9060706@...221...>

This is just a general question about programming, it doesn't refer to 
Gambas specifically, but I would implement the results in Gambas.

For some of my bigger projects I have had to implement IF and ELSE and 
similar functions. I tried to manage AND, OR etc. too, but I failed. 
Somehow I didn't find a proper way of implementing this logic. So up to 
now I have filled this gap by simply putting several IF ELSE IF ELSE and 
so on within each other. Of course this is somewhat tricky sometimes :-)

Could someone here explain me how an AND and an OR can be implemented? 
Are there general rules? I do not need the parser, it is there. I just 
ask about the logic behind AND and OR for instance.

Here are my thoughts so far:

- Parser puts IF-clauses into array and logic (AND/OR) in between or 
into separate list

- IF-clauses are solved and results are stored e. g. in a boolean array

- The ANDs and ORs from the list are processed with the boolean array 
into a final result

This does not, however, include looking for bracketed clauses... Oh my 
goodness :-)

Thanks for your help...

Regards

Rolf



From wdahn at ...1000...  Thu Sep  2 11:20:10 2010
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:20:10 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to realize AND, OR etc.
In-Reply-To: <4C7F62D7.9060706@...221...>
References: <4C7F62D7.9060706@...221...>
Message-ID: <4C7F6C4A.2020103@...1000...>

On 02/09/10 16:39, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
> This is just a general question about programming, it doesn't refer to 
> Gambas specifically, but I would implement the results in Gambas.
>
> For some of my bigger projects I have had to implement IF and ELSE and 
> similar functions. I tried to manage AND, OR etc. too, but I failed. 
> Somehow I didn't find a proper way of implementing this logic. So up to 
> now I have filled this gap by simply putting several IF ELSE IF ELSE and 
> so on within each other. Of course this is somewhat tricky sometimes :-)
>
> Could someone here explain me how an AND and an OR can be implemented? 
> Are there general rules? I do not need the parser, it is there. I just 
> ask about the logic behind AND and OR for instance.
>
> Here are my thoughts so far:
>
> - Parser puts IF-clauses into array and logic (AND/OR) in between or 
> into separate list
>
> - IF-clauses are solved and results are stored e. g. in a boolean array
>
> - The ANDs and ORs from the list are processed with the boolean array 
> into a final result
>
> This does not, however, include looking for bracketed clauses... Oh my 
> goodness :-)
>
> Thanks for your help...
>
> Regards
>
> Rolf
>   
No sweat, it's just Ones and Zeroes...   :-D

It is not very clear (to me) what you actually want to achieve.
You might want to take a closer look at the SELECT statement. It takes a
lot of clutter out of code.

Regards
Werner




From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Thu Sep  2 11:36:24 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:36:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to realize AND, OR etc.
In-Reply-To: <4C7F62D7.9060706@...221...>
References: <4C7F62D7.9060706@...221...>
Message-ID: <4C7F7018.1080109@...1909...>

Rolf-Werner Eilert ha scritto:
> This is just a general question about programming, it doesn't refer to 
> Gambas specifically, but I would implement the results in Gambas.
>
> For some of my bigger projects I have had to implement IF and ELSE and 
> similar functions. I tried to manage AND, OR etc. too, but I failed. 
> Somehow I didn't find a proper way of implementing this logic. So up to 
> now I have filled this gap by simply putting several IF ELSE IF ELSE and 
> so on within each other. Of course this is somewhat tricky sometimes :-)
>
> Could someone here explain me how an AND and an OR can be implemented? 
> Are there general rules? I do not need the parser, it is there. I just 
> ask about the logic behind AND and OR for instance.
>
> Here are my thoughts so far:
>
> - Parser puts IF-clauses into array and logic (AND/OR) in between or 
> into separate list
>
> - IF-clauses are solved and results are stored e. g. in a boolean array
>
> - The ANDs and ORs from the list are processed with the boolean array 
> into a final result
>
> This does not, however, include looking for bracketed clauses... Oh my 
> goodness :-)
>   
Generally speaking, compilers (or parsers) don't use arrays to store 
intermediate results. ANDs and ORs are like any other arithmetic 
operation - they are evaluated left to right, giving precedence when 
due. But! Especially when speaking about boolean expressions, you can't 
assume a specific order of evaluation. Some compiler can even arrange 
code in such a manner that some computation is be omitted, when at a 
certain point of the expression the result is already known. This is 
called short-circuit, and Gambas does *not* use it. To clarify, if I write:

    IF A > 3 AND B+5 > 2  THEN...

some runtime could evaluate "A > 3" and, if it founds it false, 
completely avoid to compute "b+5" and "B+5 > 2". Gambas does never do 
so. It evaluates "A > 3", obtaining a true/false value. Then it computes 
"B+5", compares with 2, and obtains another true/false value. Then it 
computes the AND between the two boolean values, and so it can decide to 
execute the THEN part or not. Again, you should not rely on a specific 
order of execution; the same as with any other arithmetic calculus: you 
can only tell that "B+5" is evaluated before "B+5>3", because the 
greater-than has a lower precedence. But then, you don't know if the 
first comparison is computed before or after the second.

All this is important if, when evaluating expressions, some collateral 
result is expected. If, instead evaluating simple variables, you use 
properties or function calls and, if these properties or function calls 
do something behind the scenes (some collateral effect), then the order 
of evaluation can be important, but you should not rely on it. The 
solution in this case is to use temporary boolean variables to force the 
evaluation of some piece of code, and have a predictable evaluation 
order. The line of code above could be written like:

    btemp1 = A > 3
    btemp2 = B+5 > 2
    IF btemp1 and btemp2 THEN...

This version of code assures that A and B are always evaluated, and in 
that given order.

That said, when there is more than one possibility, it's a question of 
style. I personally don't like long sequences of ANDs and ORs, but 
sometimes they are expressive:

    IF age<18 or sex=female or state=married or religion<>catholic THEN 
you_are_not_a_catholic_priest()

To make the long line above a little shorter, one could use multi-line 
IFs, or one could deploy temporary variables, but in this case the line:

    btemp1 = age<18 or religion<>catholic

what does mean? Do we have a name for persons which are "minors or not 
catholic"? This code is not self-explanatory, and so it is ugly.

Hope this helps a little,
Regards
Doriano





From wdahn at ...1000...  Thu Sep  2 11:52:07 2010
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:52:07 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bitwise Operations Wish
Message-ID: <4C7F73C7.4000202@...1000...>

There were days when binary values were actually represented in bits
within a byte or word. This is still true when interfacing to some boxes
such as PLCs.
Likewise, some operations - eg calculating a CRC - are very awkward to
implement without bitwise operations.

It would be really nice to have this functionality. Anyone who has ever
programmed in Assembler propably knows what I mean.

The following would be a fairly complete set, I think:

BitAnd( a AS Expression, b AS Expression) AS Expression
BitOr( a AS Expression, b AS Expression) AS Expression
BitXOr( a AS Expression, b AS Expression) AS Expression
BitNot( a AS Expression) AS Expression

BitShift( a AS Expression, count as Byte) AS Expression
BitRotate( a AS Expression, count as Byte) AS Expression

where Expression boils down to one of the following:
Byte
Short
Integer
Long

If expressions a and b are not the same size the shorter one needs to be
expanded with zeroes (MSB side) to match.

Regards
Werner





From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Thu Sep  2 11:55:20 2010
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:55:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to realize AND, OR etc.
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Am 02.09.2010 11:20, schrieb Werner:
> On 02/09/10 16:39, Rolf-Werner Eilert wrote:
>> This is just a general question about programming, it doesn't refer to
>> Gambas specifically, but I would implement the results in Gambas.
>>
>> For some of my bigger projects I have had to implement IF and ELSE and
>> similar functions. I tried to manage AND, OR etc. too, but I failed.
>> Somehow I didn't find a proper way of implementing this logic. So up to
>> now I have filled this gap by simply putting several IF ELSE IF ELSE and
>> so on within each other. Of course this is somewhat tricky sometimes :-)
>>
>> Could someone here explain me how an AND and an OR can be implemented?
>> Are there general rules? I do not need the parser, it is there. I just
>> ask about the logic behind AND and OR for instance.
>>
>> Here are my thoughts so far:
>>
>> - Parser puts IF-clauses into array and logic (AND/OR) in between or
>> into separate list
>>
>> - IF-clauses are solved and results are stored e. g. in a boolean array
>>
>> - The ANDs and ORs from the list are processed with the boolean array
>> into a final result
>>
>> This does not, however, include looking for bracketed clauses... Oh my
>> goodness :-)
>>
>> Thanks for your help...
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rolf
>>
> No sweat, it's just Ones and Zeroes...   :-D
>
> It is not very clear (to me) what you actually want to achieve.
> You might want to take a closer look at the SELECT statement. It takes a
> lot of clutter out of code.
>
> Regards
> Werner

SELECT is just another view to IF (a somewhat limited version) I'd say.

No, my question was: How can I implement such a logic in my own program?

Regards

Rolf




From gambas.fr at ...626...  Thu Sep  2 12:39:28 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:39:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to realize AND, OR etc.
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> No, my question was: How can I implement such a logic in my own program?

did you try to make a kind of high level interpreter ? for macro for exemple ?

if it is that ... the doriano explanation is good :)



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Thu Sep  2 12:40:38 2010
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:40:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to realize AND, OR etc.
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Am 02.09.2010 11:36, schrieb Doriano Blengino:
> Rolf-Werner Eilert ha scritto:
>> This is just a general question about programming, it doesn't refer to
>> Gambas specifically, but I would implement the results in Gambas.
>>
>> For some of my bigger projects I have had to implement IF and ELSE and
>> similar functions. I tried to manage AND, OR etc. too, but I failed.
>> Somehow I didn't find a proper way of implementing this logic. So up to
>> now I have filled this gap by simply putting several IF ELSE IF ELSE and
>> so on within each other. Of course this is somewhat tricky sometimes :-)
>>
>> Could someone here explain me how an AND and an OR can be implemented?
>> Are there general rules? I do not need the parser, it is there. I just
>> ask about the logic behind AND and OR for instance.
>>
>> Here are my thoughts so far:
>>
>> - Parser puts IF-clauses into array and logic (AND/OR) in between or
>> into separate list
>>
>> - IF-clauses are solved and results are stored e. g. in a boolean array
>>
>> - The ANDs and ORs from the list are processed with the boolean array
>> into a final result
>>
>> This does not, however, include looking for bracketed clauses... Oh my
>> goodness :-)
>>

Thanks for your comprehensive answer! Here are my thoughts:

> Generally speaking, compilers (or parsers) don't use arrays to store
> intermediate results. ANDs and ORs are like any other arithmetic
> operation - they are evaluated left to right, giving precedence when
> due. But! Especially when speaking about boolean expressions, you can't
> assume a specific order of evaluation.

Ok... But what about brackets? When the user of my program wants to make 
sure the expressions ARE evaluated in a special order? How does this fit 
in here?

> Some compiler can even arrange
> code in such a manner that some computation is be omitted, when at a
> certain point of the expression the result is already known. This is
> called short-circuit, and Gambas does *not* use it. To clarify, if I write:
>
>      IF A>  3 AND B+5>  2  THEN...
>
> some runtime could evaluate "A>  3" and, if it founds it false,
> completely avoid to compute "b+5" and "B+5>  2". Gambas does never do
> so.

And I would be glad if I managed my own program to be half as clever as 
Gambas is :-)


> It evaluates "A>  3", obtaining a true/false value. Then it computes
> "B+5", compares with 2, and obtains another true/false value. Then it
> computes the AND between the two boolean values, and so it can decide to
> execute the THEN part or not.

Yep - and how does it organize this? Doesn't it have to look into the 
whole line prior to seeing that there is a "> 2" following in order to 
decide to compute "B+5" first? And doesn't it have to evaluate "A > 3" 
and "B + 5 > 2" prior to computing the AND? So everything has to be put 
apart into certain pieces, then evaluated, computed and so on to get a 
final result.

If there's no array way of doing it - how is it done then?

If I go letter-by-letter through the formula text the user of my program 
is giving me, I might at every moment stumble over new surprises :-)

> All this is important if, when evaluating expressions, some collateral
> result is expected. If, instead evaluating simple variables, you use
> properties or function calls and, if these properties or function calls
> do something behind the scenes (some collateral effect), then the order
> of evaluation can be important, but you should not rely on it.

As far as I can see, I wouldn't risk collateral results in my programs.

> The
> solution in this case is to use temporary boolean variables to force the
> evaluation of some piece of code, and have a predictable evaluation
> order. The line of code above could be written like:
>
>      btemp1 = A>  3
>      btemp2 = B+5>  2
>      IF btemp1 and btemp2 THEN...

This would make up for a nice array, wouldn't it? :-)

>
> This version of code assures that A and B are always evaluated, and in
> that given order.
>
> That said, when there is more than one possibility, it's a question of
> style. I personally don't like long sequences of ANDs and ORs, but
> sometimes they are expressive:
>
>      IF age<18 or sex=female or state=married or religion<>catholic THEN
> you_are_not_a_catholic_priest()

Ok. Let's use my printing forms as an example. This is where my need for 
this kind of logic is most urgent.

If I want to have a certificate printed for the number of language 
courses a student is taking, I have to decide how to use the free space 
for the marks. So if it's only 2 languages, there is more space and I 
can keep the places for the marks more apart than if it's 4 languages.

So the line of code in the printing form could read somewhat like (I 
write pseudo code, that's easier here)

IF Instr "courses" = "Spanish" AND Instr "courses" = "Russian" THEN
  print special 4 languages version
ELSE IF Instr "courses" = "Spanish" OR Instr "courses" = "Russian" THEN
  print 3 languages version
ELSE
  print 2 languages version

Of course it is possible to do this without any ANDs and ORs, but it 
would make things easier to read. It is really complicated to read now.

Another case which came about yesterday and reminded me to this whole thing:

For example, if a student has booked a certain main course which is more 
expensive than the ordinary one but then books in for another special 
language course, there will be a discount on the main course.

If I have to indicate on a sheet how much the students pay, I have to 
decide:

IF expensive main course THEN
   IF plus special course THEN
     x Euros for main course
     z Euros for special course
   ELSE
     y Euros for main course only
   END IF
ELSE
   x Euros for main course
   IF special course booked THEN
     z Euros for special course
   END IF
END IF

If there were ANDs and ORs it would make life somewhat easier ;-)

Furthermore, there are other places in the program where a logical 
sequence with ANDs and ORs could help, and if I managed to program the 
whole thing in a way to be able to use it everywhere, this would open 
more ways of organisation.

There is a filter function for instance to build lists of students in 
different classes and courses. It is very primitive now, it can only 
look for Instr in a single field, then put the name into the list or 
not. If I could use genuine logic, many things would be easier.

Hope I could make this clearer. Your answer already helped, but if using 
arrays is unusual, which way is better then?

Regards

Rolf




From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Thu Sep  2 12:48:43 2010
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:48:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to realize AND, OR etc.
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Am 02.09.2010 12:39, schrieb Fabien Bodard:
>> No, my question was: How can I implement such a logic in my own program?
>
> did you try to make a kind of high level interpreter ? for macro for exemple ?
>
> if it is that ... the doriano explanation is good :)
>

Yes, right that :-) And see my answer to him 5 minutes ago...





From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Thu Sep  2 13:58:42 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:58:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to realize AND, OR etc.
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Rolf-Werner Eilert ha scritto:
> Am 02.09.2010 11:36, schrieb Doriano Blengino:
>   
>> Rolf-Werner Eilert ha scritto:
>>     
>>> This is just a general question about programming, it doesn't refer to
>>> Gambas specifically, but I would implement the results in Gambas.
>>>
>>> For some of my bigger projects I have had to implement IF and ELSE and
>>> similar functions. I tried to manage AND, OR etc. too, but I failed.
>>> Somehow I didn't find a proper way of implementing this logic. So up to
>>> now I have filled this gap by simply putting several IF ELSE IF ELSE and
>>> so on within each other. Of course this is somewhat tricky sometimes :-)
>>>
>>>       
I am not really sure about what you want. My first guess was that you 
wanted more information on *how* to use ANDs and ORs in a gambas program 
(and there are also XORs and NOTs). Now I doubt that you want to write a 
compiler able to interpret boolean expressions. I will try to explain a 
little below.

>   
>> Generally speaking, compilers (or parsers) don't use arrays to store
>> intermediate results. ANDs and ORs are like any other arithmetic
>> operation - they are evaluated left to right, giving precedence when
>> due. But! Especially when speaking about boolean expressions, you can't
>> assume a specific order of evaluation.
>>     
>
> Ok... But what about brackets? When the user of my program wants to make 
> sure the expressions ARE evaluated in a special order? How does this fit 
> in here?
>   
Brackets only force precedence in the classic way:

    2*3+4      -> left to right, because "+" has lower precedence than "*"
    2+3*4      -> first "3*4", because "*" has higher precedence than "+"
    (2+3)*4    -> again left to right, because the brackets.

>   
>> Some compiler can even arrange
>> code in such a manner that some computation is be omitted, when at a
>> certain point of the expression the result is already known. This is
>> called short-circuit, and Gambas does *not* use it. To clarify, if I write:
>>
>>      IF A>  3 AND B+5>  2  THEN...
>>
>> some runtime could evaluate "A>  3" and, if it founds it false,
>> completely avoid to compute "b+5" and "B+5>  2". Gambas does never do
>> so.
>>     
>
> And I would be glad if I managed my own program to be half as clever as 
> Gambas is :-)
>
>
>   
>> It evaluates "A>  3", obtaining a true/false value. Then it computes
>> "B+5", compares with 2, and obtains another true/false value. Then it
>> computes the AND between the two boolean values, and so it can decide to
>> execute the THEN part or not.
>>     
>
> Yep - and how does it organize this? Doesn't it have to look into the 
> whole line prior to seeing that there is a "> 2" following in order to 
> decide to compute "B+5" first? And doesn't it have to evaluate "A > 3" 
> and "B + 5 > 2" prior to computing the AND? So everything has to be put 
> apart into certain pieces, then evaluated, computed and so on to get a 
> final result.
>
> If there's no array way of doing it - how is it done then?
>
> If I go letter-by-letter through the formula text the user of my program 
> is giving me, I might at every moment stumble over new surprises :-)
>   
Actually you use a stack, which can also be seen as an array (unlimited 
array) with an index pointing in it.
An expression starts with a "value", followed by a number of couples of 
"operator-next_value".
You read the first value, which is "result".
Then you read the next couple of "operator-value". If there is nothing 
more, you evaluate "result operator value" and finish. If there is 
something more, peek further at the next "operator2". If it has lower 
precedence than the current operator, you evaluate the current step and 
go ahead. Otherwise, you add a position in the stack and store current 
result and current operator, set "result" equal to the current value and 
operator=operator2, and go on.
This is a quick and very simplified form, which does not explain how to 
"pop" the stack, and does not manage unary operators (like NOT, unary 
minuses, and so on). I only have to add that if you encounter an opening 
bracket, all the contents of the bracket have to be regarded as a value. 
If you know the HP hand calculators, which use RPN method, you can see 
that that method is nothing else than this. To calculate:

    2+3*6

you press in sequence "2" Enter "3" Enter "6" "x" "+". Each time you 
press Enter the stack is pushed. Each time you apply an operator, the 
stack is popped.

This could be another way to implement an expression compiler...

>   
>> All this is important if, when evaluating expressions, some collateral
>> result is expected. If, instead evaluating simple variables, you use
>> properties or function calls and, if these properties or function calls
>> do something behind the scenes (some collateral effect), then the order
>> of evaluation can be important, but you should not rely on it.
>>     
>
> As far as I can see, I wouldn't risk collateral results in my programs.
>
>   
>> The
>> solution in this case is to use temporary boolean variables to force the
>> evaluation of some piece of code, and have a predictable evaluation
>> order. The line of code above could be written like:
>>
>>      btemp1 = A>  3
>>      btemp2 = B+5>  2
>>      IF btemp1 and btemp2 THEN...
>>     
>
> This would make up for a nice array, wouldn't it? :-)
>   
Yes... but only because we wanted to use an array. And anyway, at last 
the array is combined into an expression!
The same would be;

    b1 = ...
    b2 = ...
    b3 = ...
    if b1 or b2 and b3 then...

I mean: we can not get rid of the final expression, so an array does not 
help :-)

>   
>> This version of code assures that A and B are always evaluated, and in
>> that given order.
>>
>> That said, when there is more than one possibility, it's a question of
>> style. I personally don't like long sequences of ANDs and ORs, but
>> sometimes they are expressive:
>>
>>      IF age<18 or sex=female or state=married or religion<>catholic THEN
>> you_are_not_a_catholic_priest()
>>     
>
> Ok. Let's use my printing forms as an example. This is where my need for 
> this kind of logic is most urgent.
>
> If I want to have a certificate printed for the number of language 
> courses a student is taking, I have to decide how to use the free space 
> for the marks. So if it's only 2 languages, there is more space and I 
> can keep the places for the marks more apart than if it's 4 languages.
>
> So the line of code in the printing form could read somewhat like (I 
> write pseudo code, that's easier here)
>
> IF Instr "courses" = "Spanish" AND Instr "courses" = "Russian" THEN
>   print special 4 languages version
> ELSE IF Instr "courses" = "Spanish" OR Instr "courses" = "Russian" THEN
>   print 3 languages version
> ELSE
>   print 2 languages version
>
> Of course it is possible to do this without any ANDs and ORs, but it 
> would make things easier to read. It is really complicated to read now.
>
> Another case which came about yesterday and reminded me to this whole thing:
>
> For example, if a student has booked a certain main course which is more 
> expensive than the ordinary one but then books in for another special 
> language course, there will be a discount on the main course.
>
> If I have to indicate on a sheet how much the students pay, I have to 
> decide:
>
> IF expensive main course THEN
>    IF plus special course THEN
>      x Euros for main course
>      z Euros for special course
>    ELSE
>      y Euros for main course only
>    END IF
> ELSE
>    x Euros for main course
>    IF special course booked THEN
>      z Euros for special course
>    END IF
> END IF
>
> If there were ANDs and ORs it would make life somewhat easier ;-)
>
> Furthermore, there are other places in the program where a logical 
> sequence with ANDs and ORs could help, and if I managed to program the 
> whole thing in a way to be able to use it everywhere, this would open 
> more ways of organisation.
>
> There is a filter function for instance to build lists of students in 
> different classes and courses. It is very primitive now, it can only 
> look for Instr in a single field, then put the name into the list or 
> not. If I could use genuine logic, many things would be easier.
>
> Hope I could make this clearer. Your answer already helped, but if using 
> arrays is unusual, which way is better then?
>   
Uhm... a few considerations.

If you must implement boolean logic in your program, but you don't need 
to let your users input boolean expressions into your program:
You should express a series of "rules" like:

    1. Course cost is X
    2. Special cost is Y (zero means no special course)
    3. if X>expensive and Y<>0 then X=X-discount
    4. Total cost is X+Y

or,

    1. Course cost is X
    2. Special cost is Y
    3. Discount_applied = X>expensive and Y<>0
    4. if Discount_applied then X=X-discount
    5. print "Total cost is " X+Y
    6. if Discount_applied then print "(discount)"

Anyway, there is no single way to organize tests (IFs, AND, NOTs...) - 
we could read hundreds of different books on the same argument. But you 
was true when about gambas you wrote "look at the whole line". You 
should collect all the possible data, and group them in temporary 
(better say high level) variables, like "Discount_applied". Examine 
every rule one after another. Your rule is "If the main course is 
expensive, and there is another course, then there is a discount". Ok. 
Now suppose that now, or in the future, a new rule is added: "If the 
scholar is rich, then no discount can be applied". In a single piece of 
code, where you determine Discount_applied, you modify it:

    ...
    3. Discount_applied = X>expensive and Y<>0
    4. if Scholar_is_rich then Discount_applied = false
    ...

May be that to determine if a scholar is rich you must examine the 
family income, and the number of members in the family... another piece 
of code that has a single purpose: determine the value of 
Scholar_is_rich. May be that you don't want to collect data about 
richness of scholars, if not needed (the scholar takes only one course). 
Then you must can do like this:

    ...
    3. Discount_applied = X>expensive and Y<>0
    4. Scholar_is_rich = false
    4. if Discount_applied then calculate_if_scholar_is_reach()
    5. if Scholar_is_rich then Discount_applied = false
    ...

Another kind of problem is if you want to "interpret" boolean 
expressions inputted by users. Textual representation of boolean 
expressions is powerful, but can be difficult both to interpret and to 
input. A table can be easier:

    cond1   -and-   cond2   -and-   cond3   -and-   cond4
                   -or-
    cond1   -and-   cond2   -and-   cond3   -and-   cond4
                   -or-
    cond1   -and-   cond2   -and-   cond3   -and-   cond4

The words "-and-" and "-or-" are fixed in the logic of the program; the 
size of the table is also fixed.
Empty rows and empty fields are ignored. For every possible result 
(record), you start by saying "this record is ok". Then you scan all the 
rows, ignoring empty ones. If a row succeeds, the record passes.
Every single row has 4 condition, which must be met all together. If one 
fails, the row fails.
Every condition is a test in the form "value1 operator value2"; value1 
is a combobox containing fields of the recors (name, surname, ZIP, 
course and so on); operator is a combobox containing "=", "<>". Value2 
is inputted by the user.

Try to use "Search messages..." in your email client (which is 
Thunderbird/Icedove, right? :-)). It does something very similar.

I think to have been exhaustive... but if not, ask for more.

Regards,
Doriano



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep  2 14:06:30 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:06:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bitwise Operations Wish
In-Reply-To: <4C7F73C7.4000202@...1000...>
References: <4C7F73C7.4000202@...1000...>
Message-ID: <201009021406.30064.gambas@...1...>

> There were days when binary values were actually represented in bits
> within a byte or word. This is still true when interfacing to some boxes
> such as PLCs.
> Likewise, some operations - eg calculating a CRC - are very awkward to
> implement without bitwise operations.
> 
> It would be really nice to have this functionality. Anyone who has ever
> programmed in Assembler propably knows what I mean.
> 
> The following would be a fairly complete set, I think:
> 
> BitAnd( a AS Expression, b AS Expression) AS Expression

-> a AND b

> BitOr( a AS Expression, b AS Expression) AS Expression

-> a OR b

> BitXOr( a AS Expression, b AS Expression) AS Expression

-> a XOR b

> BitNot( a AS Expression) AS Expression

-> NOT a

> 
> BitShift( a AS Expression, count as Byte) AS Expression

-> Lsl(a, count)
-> Lsr(a, count)
-> Asl(a, count)
-> Asr(a, count)

> BitRotate( a AS Expression, count as Byte) AS Expression

-> Rol(a, count)
-> Ror(a, count)

> 
> where Expression boils down to one of the following:
> Byte
> Short
> Integer
> Long
> 
> If expressions a and b are not the same size the shorter one needs to be
> expanded with zeroes (MSB side) to match.

That is what they do.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From wdahn at ...1000...  Thu Sep  2 15:22:35 2010
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:22:35 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bitwise Operations Wish
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On 02/09/10 20:06, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> There were days when binary values were actually represented in bits
>> within a byte or word. This is still true when interfacing to some boxes
>> such as PLCs.
>> Likewise, some operations - eg calculating a CRC - are very awkward to
>> implement without bitwise operations.
>>
>> It would be really nice to have this functionality. Anyone who has ever
>> programmed in Assembler propably knows what I mean.
>>
>> The following would be a fairly complete set, I think:
>>
>> BitAnd( a AS Expression, b AS Expression) AS Expression
>>     
> -> a AND b
>
>   
>> BitOr( a AS Expression, b AS Expression) AS Expression
>>     
> -> a OR b
>
>   
>> BitXOr( a AS Expression, b AS Expression) AS Expression
>>     
> -> a XOR b
>
>   
>> BitNot( a AS Expression) AS Expression
>>     
> -> NOT a
>
>   
>> BitShift( a AS Expression, count as Byte) AS Expression
>>     
> -> Lsl(a, count)
> -> Lsr(a, count)
> -> Asl(a, count)
> -> Asr(a, count)
>
>   
>> BitRotate( a AS Expression, count as Byte) AS Expression
>>     
> -> Rol(a, count)
> -> Ror(a, count)
>
>   
>> where Expression boils down to one of the following:
>> Byte
>> Short
>> Integer
>> Long
>>
>> If expressions a and b are not the same size the shorter one needs to be
>> expanded with zeroes (MSB side) to match.
>>     
> That is what they do.
>
> Regards,
>
>   
Thanks, I was under the misguided impression these were for booleans.

CHRISTMAS! :-)

Werner



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Thu Sep  2 15:40:39 2010
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:40:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to realize AND, OR etc.
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Am 02.09.2010 13:58, schrieb Doriano Blengino:
> Rolf-Werner Eilert ha scritto:
>> Am 02.09.2010 11:36, schrieb Doriano Blengino:
>>
>>> Rolf-Werner Eilert ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> This is just a general question about programming, it doesn't refer to
>>>> Gambas specifically, but I would implement the results in Gambas.
>>>>
>>>> For some of my bigger projects I have had to implement IF and ELSE and
>>>> similar functions. I tried to manage AND, OR etc. too, but I failed.
>>>> Somehow I didn't find a proper way of implementing this logic. So up to
>>>> now I have filled this gap by simply putting several IF ELSE IF ELSE and
>>>> so on within each other. Of course this is somewhat tricky sometimes :-)
>>>>
>>>>
> I am not really sure about what you want. My first guess was that you
> wanted more information on *how* to use ANDs and ORs in a gambas program
> (and there are also XORs and NOTs). Now I doubt that you want to write a
> compiler able to interpret boolean expressions. I will try to explain a
> little below.
>
>>
>>> Generally speaking, compilers (or parsers) don't use arrays to store
>>> intermediate results. ANDs and ORs are like any other arithmetic
>>> operation - they are evaluated left to right, giving precedence when
>>> due. But! Especially when speaking about boolean expressions, you can't
>>> assume a specific order of evaluation.
>>>
>>
>> Ok... But what about brackets? When the user of my program wants to make
>> sure the expressions ARE evaluated in a special order? How does this fit
>> in here?
>>
> Brackets only force precedence in the classic way:
>
>      2*3+4      ->  left to right, because "+" has lower precedence than "*"
>      2+3*4      ->  first "3*4", because "*" has higher precedence than "+"
>      (2+3)*4    ->  again left to right, because the brackets.
>
>>
>>> Some compiler can even arrange
>>> code in such a manner that some computation is be omitted, when at a
>>> certain point of the expression the result is already known. This is
>>> called short-circuit, and Gambas does *not* use it. To clarify, if I write:
>>>
>>>       IF A>   3 AND B+5>   2  THEN...
>>>
>>> some runtime could evaluate "A>   3" and, if it founds it false,
>>> completely avoid to compute "b+5" and "B+5>   2". Gambas does never do
>>> so.
>>>
>>
>> And I would be glad if I managed my own program to be half as clever as
>> Gambas is :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>> It evaluates "A>   3", obtaining a true/false value. Then it computes
>>> "B+5", compares with 2, and obtains another true/false value. Then it
>>> computes the AND between the two boolean values, and so it can decide to
>>> execute the THEN part or not.
>>>
>>
>> Yep - and how does it organize this? Doesn't it have to look into the
>> whole line prior to seeing that there is a ">  2" following in order to
>> decide to compute "B+5" first? And doesn't it have to evaluate "A>  3"
>> and "B + 5>  2" prior to computing the AND? So everything has to be put
>> apart into certain pieces, then evaluated, computed and so on to get a
>> final result.
>>
>> If there's no array way of doing it - how is it done then?
>>
>> If I go letter-by-letter through the formula text the user of my program
>> is giving me, I might at every moment stumble over new surprises :-)
>>
> Actually you use a stack, which can also be seen as an array (unlimited
> array) with an index pointing in it.
> An expression starts with a "value", followed by a number of couples of
> "operator-next_value".
> You read the first value, which is "result".
> Then you read the next couple of "operator-value". If there is nothing
> more, you evaluate "result operator value" and finish. If there is
> something more, peek further at the next "operator2". If it has lower
> precedence than the current operator, you evaluate the current step and
> go ahead. Otherwise, you add a position in the stack and store current
> result and current operator, set "result" equal to the current value and
> operator=operator2, and go on.
> This is a quick and very simplified form, which does not explain how to
> "pop" the stack, and does not manage unary operators (like NOT, unary
> minuses, and so on). I only have to add that if you encounter an opening
> bracket, all the contents of the bracket have to be regarded as a value.
> If you know the HP hand calculators, which use RPN method, you can see
> that that method is nothing else than this. To calculate:
>
>      2+3*6
>
> you press in sequence "2" Enter "3" Enter "6" "x" "+". Each time you
> press Enter the stack is pushed. Each time you apply an operator, the
> stack is popped.
>
> This could be another way to implement an expression compiler...
>
>>
>>> All this is important if, when evaluating expressions, some collateral
>>> result is expected. If, instead evaluating simple variables, you use
>>> properties or function calls and, if these properties or function calls
>>> do something behind the scenes (some collateral effect), then the order
>>> of evaluation can be important, but you should not rely on it.
>>>
>>
>> As far as I can see, I wouldn't risk collateral results in my programs.
>>
>>
>>> The
>>> solution in this case is to use temporary boolean variables to force the
>>> evaluation of some piece of code, and have a predictable evaluation
>>> order. The line of code above could be written like:
>>>
>>>       btemp1 = A>   3
>>>       btemp2 = B+5>   2
>>>       IF btemp1 and btemp2 THEN...
>>>
>>
>> This would make up for a nice array, wouldn't it? :-)
>>
> Yes... but only because we wanted to use an array. And anyway, at last
> the array is combined into an expression!
> The same would be;
>
>      b1 = ...
>      b2 = ...
>      b3 = ...
>      if b1 or b2 and b3 then...
>
> I mean: we can not get rid of the final expression, so an array does not
> help :-)
>
>>
>>> This version of code assures that A and B are always evaluated, and in
>>> that given order.
>>>
>>> That said, when there is more than one possibility, it's a question of
>>> style. I personally don't like long sequences of ANDs and ORs, but
>>> sometimes they are expressive:
>>>
>>>       IF age<18 or sex=female or state=married or religion<>catholic THEN
>>> you_are_not_a_catholic_priest()
>>>
>>
>> Ok. Let's use my printing forms as an example. This is where my need for
>> this kind of logic is most urgent.
>>
>> If I want to have a certificate printed for the number of language
>> courses a student is taking, I have to decide how to use the free space
>> for the marks. So if it's only 2 languages, there is more space and I
>> can keep the places for the marks more apart than if it's 4 languages.
>>
>> So the line of code in the printing form could read somewhat like (I
>> write pseudo code, that's easier here)
>>
>> IF Instr "courses" = "Spanish" AND Instr "courses" = "Russian" THEN
>>    print special 4 languages version
>> ELSE IF Instr "courses" = "Spanish" OR Instr "courses" = "Russian" THEN
>>    print 3 languages version
>> ELSE
>>    print 2 languages version
>>
>> Of course it is possible to do this without any ANDs and ORs, but it
>> would make things easier to read. It is really complicated to read now.
>>
>> Another case which came about yesterday and reminded me to this whole thing:
>>
>> For example, if a student has booked a certain main course which is more
>> expensive than the ordinary one but then books in for another special
>> language course, there will be a discount on the main course.
>>
>> If I have to indicate on a sheet how much the students pay, I have to
>> decide:
>>
>> IF expensive main course THEN
>>     IF plus special course THEN
>>       x Euros for main course
>>       z Euros for special course
>>     ELSE
>>       y Euros for main course only
>>     END IF
>> ELSE
>>     x Euros for main course
>>     IF special course booked THEN
>>       z Euros for special course
>>     END IF
>> END IF
>>
>> If there were ANDs and ORs it would make life somewhat easier ;-)
>>
>> Furthermore, there are other places in the program where a logical
>> sequence with ANDs and ORs could help, and if I managed to program the
>> whole thing in a way to be able to use it everywhere, this would open
>> more ways of organisation.
>>
>> There is a filter function for instance to build lists of students in
>> different classes and courses. It is very primitive now, it can only
>> look for Instr in a single field, then put the name into the list or
>> not. If I could use genuine logic, many things would be easier.
>>
>> Hope I could make this clearer. Your answer already helped, but if using
>> arrays is unusual, which way is better then?
>>
> Uhm... a few considerations.
>
> If you must implement boolean logic in your program, but you don't need
> to let your users input boolean expressions into your program:
> You should express a series of "rules" like:
>
>      1. Course cost is X
>      2. Special cost is Y (zero means no special course)
>      3. if X>expensive and Y<>0 then X=X-discount
>      4. Total cost is X+Y
>
> or,
>
>      1. Course cost is X
>      2. Special cost is Y
>      3. Discount_applied = X>expensive and Y<>0
>      4. if Discount_applied then X=X-discount
>      5. print "Total cost is " X+Y
>      6. if Discount_applied then print "(discount)"
>
> Anyway, there is no single way to organize tests (IFs, AND, NOTs...) -
> we could read hundreds of different books on the same argument. But you
> was true when about gambas you wrote "look at the whole line". You
> should collect all the possible data, and group them in temporary
> (better say high level) variables, like "Discount_applied". Examine
> every rule one after another. Your rule is "If the main course is
> expensive, and there is another course, then there is a discount". Ok.
> Now suppose that now, or in the future, a new rule is added: "If the
> scholar is rich, then no discount can be applied". In a single piece of
> code, where you determine Discount_applied, you modify it:
>
>      ...
>      3. Discount_applied = X>expensive and Y<>0
>      4. if Scholar_is_rich then Discount_applied = false
>      ...
>
> May be that to determine if a scholar is rich you must examine the
> family income, and the number of members in the family... another piece
> of code that has a single purpose: determine the value of
> Scholar_is_rich. May be that you don't want to collect data about
> richness of scholars, if not needed (the scholar takes only one course).
> Then you must can do like this:
>
>      ...
>      3. Discount_applied = X>expensive and Y<>0
>      4. Scholar_is_rich = false
>      4. if Discount_applied then calculate_if_scholar_is_reach()
>      5. if Scholar_is_rich then Discount_applied = false
>      ...
>
> Another kind of problem is if you want to "interpret" boolean
> expressions inputted by users. Textual representation of boolean
> expressions is powerful, but can be difficult both to interpret and to
> input. A table can be easier:
>
>      cond1   -and-   cond2   -and-   cond3   -and-   cond4
>                     -or-
>      cond1   -and-   cond2   -and-   cond3   -and-   cond4
>                     -or-
>      cond1   -and-   cond2   -and-   cond3   -and-   cond4
>
> The words "-and-" and "-or-" are fixed in the logic of the program; the
> size of the table is also fixed.
> Empty rows and empty fields are ignored. For every possible result
> (record), you start by saying "this record is ok". Then you scan all the
> rows, ignoring empty ones. If a row succeeds, the record passes.
> Every single row has 4 condition, which must be met all together. If one
> fails, the row fails.
> Every condition is a test in the form "value1 operator value2"; value1
> is a combobox containing fields of the recors (name, surname, ZIP,
> course and so on); operator is a combobox containing "=", "<>". Value2
> is inputted by the user.
>
> Try to use "Search messages..." in your email client (which is
> Thunderbird/Icedove, right? :-)). It does something very similar.
>
> I think to have been exhaustive... but if not, ask for more.
>
> Regards,
> Doriano
>

Thank you very much, Doriano, this will help a lot. Especially the idea 
with the table was very enlighting. I guess I'll manage to fiddle 
together something like that. If there are more questions, I'll be back :-)

Regards

Rolf




From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Thu Sep  2 19:29:52 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 20:29:52 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Your energy
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True, maybe Benoit means twins in English!

Jussi


On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 00:19, Dag Jarle Johansen
<dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...> wrote:
> Hola, Benoit.
>
> this is no mail because of things not happening - this is a mail of
> admiretance,
> I was a little silent in the last months, because I have to write some
> stuff in PHP. Facebook-stuff MS I hate it, but that is money. Plenty. I
> really even have to do it, but I see it as a challenge - old guy making
> young people happy.
>
> Now to Gambas - JUST GREAT - in every means - how do manage that?
> How do you at all manage all that mails? You are so fast in everything
> you are doing, I am very impressed.
>
> Saludos,
> Dag
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep  2 19:41:14 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:41:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Your energy
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> True, maybe Benoit means twins in English!
> 
> Jussi
> 
> 

Hey guys, my birthday is not now, just in four days! ;-)

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Thu Sep  2 22:50:45 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:50:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
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2010/9/2 JUHASZ Robert <robert1juhasz at ...626...>:
> Salut Benoit,
>
> I tested the last version with the different components:
>
> gb.qt: still the same problem (ComboBox is read-only)
> gb.qtk: OK
 gb.gui: OK  ==> so you are in gnome :)
>
> I use gb.qt.
>
> Robi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 22:02:24 +0200
>
>
>> > > Benoit,
>> > >
>> > > I just updated to the 2.21 version, revision 3173.
>> > > Checking with the previously attached file gives the same behavior :-(
>> > >
>> > > Did I do something wrong with the update or the bug survived ?
>> > >
>> > > Robi
>> >
>> > Are you sure that you recompile things correctly? I have tested with the
>> > example you provided me.
>>
>> Sorry, I didn't see that with gb.gtk there is another problem!
>
> Is it better with revision #3174?
>
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From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Thu Sep  2 23:43:34 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 18:43:34 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Inconsistent initialization in controls: seems a
 little bug
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2010/9/2 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
> I agree - consistency; but the center question is the AutoResize
> property. If it is true by default, then the widget should show as soon
> as its text property is set to something "visible". If it is false, then
> the widget should not resize and, doing so, it should keep its default
> size. If its default size is zero, then the widget is invisible. The
> Autoresize seems to default to false, so gtk seems more logical.

I think that have no sense that a graphic object is initialized to
(0,0,0,0), because make not sense that it become invisible in its
initial state. There's no logic in that. The purpose of a control is
showing something, so its initial state shouldn't be one that it
become invisible.

I think about this goal can be achieved by making TRUE the default
value of AutoResize property in the control Label, that make sense
especially in this case because Labels always should show the value of
its Text property (show a half string o just a part make no sense.
Right?). So, default AutoResize = False go against the purpose of the
Label control.

> Anyway, I believe that interactive editing of a form, and creatiaon of
> controls by code, are two different situations, with different
> requirements.

Yes, they are two differents situations. But, what those diferent requirements?

> Consistency is desirable, if it does not clash with
> something else more important.

I agree. But I don't see clash between consistency and anything else
in this case.

Consistency matters because allow predict behaviors, but never can go
against the logical behavior of a object. So in this case consistency
and logical behavior of the control Label match, if the default value
to AutoResize is TRUE.


Regards.

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Fri Sep  3 00:00:23 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:00:23 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can you put a big box into a small one?
Message-ID: <AANLkTiny8x+CttG9r_=uYLzgJvfuSxAPCdOx176kj4L9@...627...>

I found that isn't possible set the width of a control to be higher
than the width of its container. That's right? If so, this analogy of
a physical constraint make not sense to me. Why the behaviour of a
control follow this physical analogy?

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From rterry at ...1946...  Fri Sep  3 00:01:31 2010
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:01:31 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Inconsistent initialization in controls: seems a
	little bug
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On Friday 03 September 2010 07:43:34 Fabi?n Flores Vadell wrote:

My 2c worth:

Please don't introduce the nightmare of autoresize = true!!!!!!!!!!

Regards

Richard

> 2010/9/2 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
> > I agree - consistency; but the center question is the AutoResize
> > property. If it is true by default, then the widget should show as soon
> > as its text property is set to something "visible". If it is false, then
> > the widget should not resize and, doing so, it should keep its default
> > size. If its default size is zero, then the widget is invisible. The
> > Autoresize seems to default to false, so gtk seems more logical.
> 
> I think that have no sense that a graphic object is initialized to
> (0,0,0,0), because make not sense that it become invisible in its
> initial state. There's no logic in that. The purpose of a control is
> showing something, so its initial state shouldn't be one that it
> become invisible.
> 
> I think about this goal can be achieved by making TRUE the default
> value of AutoResize property in the control Label, that make sense
> especially in this case because Labels always should show the value of
> its Text property (show a half string o just a part make no sense.
> Right?). So, default AutoResize = False go against the purpose of the
> Label control.
> 
> > Anyway, I believe that interactive editing of a form, and creatiaon of
> > controls by code, are two different situations, with different
> > requirements.
> 
> Yes, they are two differents situations. But, what those diferent
>  requirements?
> 
> > Consistency is desirable, if it does not clash with
> > something else more important.
> 
> I agree. But I don't see clash between consistency and anything else
> in this case.
> 
> Consistency matters because allow predict behaviors, but never can go
> against the logical behavior of a object. So in this case consistency
> and logical behavior of the control Label match, if the default value
> to AutoResize is TRUE.
> 
> 
> Regards.
> 



From rterry at ...1946...  Fri Sep  3 00:26:04 2010
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:26:04 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can you put a big box into a small one?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiny8x+CttG9r_=uYLzgJvfuSxAPCdOx176kj4L9@...627...>
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On Friday 03 September 2010 08:00:23 Fabi?n Flores Vadell wrote:
> I found that isn't possible set the width of a control to be higher
> than the width of its container. That's right? If so, this analogy of
> a physical constraint make not sense to me. Why the behaviour of a
> control follow this physical analogy?
> 
What programming env are you coming from out of interest, and what are you 
trying to design?

Most situations you wouldn't want that conrols heigher than their physical 
container - harder for the user to use, however if you do need such a thing 
take a look at the scroll panel, and let us know what you are trying to 
acheive and most people on the list are more than willing to help, especially 
if you send in your project zipped for us to run.

Don't know how long you've been programming in gambas, but in my experience, 
having been programming (non professionally I would hasten to add)  since the 
early 1980's, and having programmed in Assembler, various windows gui 
languages, visual basic, python, wxPython, trips into Java, QT designer, I've 
found the gambas IDE and language to be one of the simplest and easiest to use 
fo all the IDE's I've ever encountered.

My advice would be don't use GTK, use the QT side of gambas and let it the IDE 
do all the work for you. Steer clear of sticking things on panels, always use 
Vbox and Hbox or splits as containers.

I've hundreds of forms and modules in my current project linking to a postgres 
backend with over 30 schemas and hundreds of tables and views and it all works 
like a charm.

REgards

RIcahrd



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Fri Sep  3 00:50:13 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:50:13 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextWidth
Message-ID: <AANLkTim1Yqsgq+jQNo=wPQcpqshQJ8Fg2-_EonFaUFfK@...627...>

When I try to adjust the width of a TextBox to its content, I use
txtSomeThing.Width = txtSomeThing.TextWidth(txtSomeThing.Text). But
doing that, the width of TextBox never be enought to show its content
completely.

I tried to find a correction factor but this is a fallible method. How
I can adjust exactly the width of a TextBox to its content?

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Fri Sep  3 01:20:46 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 20:20:46 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can you put a big box into a small one?
In-Reply-To: <201009030826.05009.rterry@...1946...>
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2010/9/2 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:

Thanks Richard. I agree with your arguments about Gambas. Is a great tool.

I'm writing examples and small proyects to use them in the docs I'm
writing. Now I writing a graphic control, and I find that constraint.
I hope that now, you can understand that I'm referring to that
constraint make not sense for me when I'm programming.

A control whose dimensions are greater than those of its container is
only possible as a temporal (transitional) state. In most cases that
state can't be showed to the user.

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Fri Sep  3 01:22:44 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 20:22:44 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Inconsistent initialization in controls: seems a
 little bug
In-Reply-To: <201009030801.31170.rterry@...1946...>
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2010/9/2 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:
> Please don't introduce the nightmare of autoresize = true!!!!!!!!!!

Arguments, please.

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Fri Sep  3 07:31:37 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 07:31:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Inconsistent initialization in controls: seems a
 little bug
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim788zperPDscV-xY9tLB7UXajg-v_ymF-yRKZf@...627...>
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Fabi?n Flores Vadell ha scritto:
> 2010/9/2 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
>   
>> I agree - consistency; but the center question is the AutoResize
>> property. If it is true by default, then the widget should show as soon
>> as its text property is set to something "visible". If it is false, then
>> the widget should not resize and, doing so, it should keep its default
>> size. If its default size is zero, then the widget is invisible. The
>> Autoresize seems to default to false, so gtk seems more logical.
>>     
>
> I think that have no sense that a graphic object is initialized to
> (0,0,0,0), because make not sense that it become invisible in its
> initial state. There's no logic in that. The purpose of a control is
> showing something, so its initial state shouldn't be one that it
> become invisible.
>   
Perhaps you don't see the whole thing, which goes much deeper than the 
surface.
Creating a label in Gambas+GTK means creating a gambas object which 
refers to a GTK object which refers to a GDK object which refers to a 
Xwindow object. Starting from XWindow and going up, an object is created 
"empty" (all dimensions set to zero, empty text, and so on), because it 
is logical not to set any dimension, at any level, because that 
dimension will be wrong - and "to zero" all the fields is the fastest 
thing to do. Setting any visual property of such object makes, by 
cascading over and over, a lot of things: don't forget repacking all 
containers in the hierarchy, marking dirty all those objects and repaint 
them.

When in code you create a label, what should be its initial width? 100? 
1000? A third of the screen width? Ten characters wide (using which 
font?)? It is true, a label is supposed to show something: but what?

Only after you set the text property, a label comes in its true 
existence. Then, if Autoresize is already true, the label should resize 
itself. If Autoresize is false, nothing should happen. If you set 
Autoresize to true after having set the text property, may be that the 
label should resize, may be not (I would say yes, but it is debatable). 
May be that this does not work well in gambas (I made some test, and 
found something strange, but I don't remember well).

> I think about this goal can be achieved by making TRUE the default
> value of AutoResize property in the control Label, that make sense
> especially in this case because Labels always should show the value of
> its Text property (show a half string o just a part make no sense.
> Right?). So, default AutoResize = False go against the purpose of the
> Label control.
>   
This could be a good idea, or not. I see that Richard does not agree, 
and probably I think the same. Sometimes it is handy, sometimes not. 
Anyway, if Autoresize was true by default, you can set it to false just 
after creation.
>   
>> Anyway, I believe that interactive editing of a form, and creatiaon of
>> controls by code, are two different situations, with different
>> requirements.
>>     
>
> Yes, they are two differents situations. But, what those diferent requirements?
>   
The difference is that when a widget is created by code, the runtime 
should make as little assumptions as possible, because the user program 
will set the properties just after the creation.

When creating widgets in interactive mode, a few reasonable assuptions 
must be made, because otherwise the user would have difficulty to 
interact with the just created object. And those "reasonable" 
assumptions often are not enough. For example, all the widgets get a 
totally stupid name: Button1, Button2, TextBox25... when I see a program 
filled with "PUBLIC SUB Button8_Click()" my first thought is "this is a 
stupid programmer". Then I realize that I do the same, because I am too 
lazy to change those stupid names :-)
>   
>> Consistency is desirable, if it does not clash with
>> something else more important.
>>     
>
> I agree. But I don't see clash between consistency and anything else
> in this case.
>   
I see clashes, instead. Would you say, for example, that when creating a 
label by code, its text should be set to "Label 1" automatically? This 
would be consistent, because in interactive mode a label does so.

Anyway, the clash is with efficiency of the program. When creating 
widgets by code, a runtime should make as little assumptions as 
possible. Perhaps, in this view, it is good that Autoresize defaults to 
false - more efficient. If you want it, you set it to true.

> Consistency matters because allow predict behaviors, but never can go
> against the logical behavior of a object. So in this case consistency
> and logical behavior of the control Label match, if the default value
> to AutoResize is TRUE.
>
>
> Regards.
>   
Regards,
Doriano





From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Fri Sep  3 07:39:25 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 07:39:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextWidth
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References: <AANLkTim1Yqsgq+jQNo=wPQcpqshQJ8Fg2-_EonFaUFfK@...627...>
Message-ID: <4C808A0D.9050103@...1909...>

Fabi?n Flores Vadell ha scritto:
> When I try to adjust the width of a TextBox to its content, I use
> txtSomeThing.Width = txtSomeThing.TextWidth(txtSomeThing.Text). But
> doing that, the width of TextBox never be enought to show its content
> completely.
>
> I tried to find a correction factor but this is a fallible method. How
> I can adjust exactly the width of a TextBox to its content?
>   
The width of a widget refers to its outside width, including 
decorations. The interior width is a different thing, sometimes called 
ClientWidth; but I don't know if Gambas TextBoxes have a ClientWidth 
property. The size of the decorations should be always the same (in a 
given theme). I don't know how to calculate it but, supposed that this 
is possible and this is "8", something like
   
    txtSomeThing.Width = 8 + txtSomeThing.TextWidth(txtSomeThing.Text)

could work, but I am not sure.

Regards,
Doriano




From reynaldi.jansen at ...626...  Fri Sep  3 08:49:03 2010
From: reynaldi.jansen at ...626... (Reynaldi Jansen)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 13:49:03 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Create Event
Message-ID: <AANLkTim_oBU-LSp16PFtpKoMQ2H7NMZooqUDD9zmBiXy@...627...>

Hello again.

I have a form and textarea with tabstrip as parent...
Then i create textarea1_cursor event in the first textarea...

When user invoke to open new tab.count, it will create a new textarea...

DIM hTextArea as TextArea
TabStrip1.count += 1
hTextArea = NEW TextArea(TabStrip1)

My question is, how to make thatnewtextarea_cursor event just like the first
textarea1_cursor event?

Thanks!


From soleilpqd at ...626...  Fri Sep  3 17:07:55 2010
From: soleilpqd at ...626... (=?UTF-8?B?UGjhuqFtIFF1YW5nIETGsMahbmc=?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 22:07:55 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dialog multi-select
Message-ID: <AANLkTimMUxZtJhdCbObhEOtNPjkNAzfetCEZY06iOuKL@...627...>

Is there a way to select both files and folders in Dialog? I want to select
multi items in a folder no distinguish that they're file or folder.


From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Fri Sep  3 20:00:46 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 15:00:46 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Inconsistent initialization in controls: seems a
 little bug
In-Reply-To: <4C808839.4060204@...1909...>
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2010/9/3 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
> Perhaps you don't see the whole thing, which goes much deeper than the
> surface.
> Creating a label in Gambas+GTK means creating a gambas object which
> refers to a GTK object which refers to a GDK object which refers to a
> Xwindow object.
> Starting from XWindow and going up, an object is created
> "empty" (all dimensions set to zero, empty text, and so on), because it
> is logical not to set any dimension, at any level, because that
> dimension will be wrong - and "to zero" all the fields is the fastest
> thing to do.

I'm conscious about what happens behind the scene. Also, I agree with
you that at X level is better not make assumptions. But like Gambas
programmer, this doesn't matter to me.

> Setting any visual property of such object makes, by
> cascading over and over, a lot of things: don't forget repacking all
> containers in the hierarchy, marking dirty all those objects and repaint
> them.

You are missing the point by changing the premise. That hipotetical
situation of cascading settings between XWindows and GTK is not
related with the topic.

Anyway, if you are worried about how many graphics operations that are
triggered by setting a control like Label think how many times this
happens while a program is running. Hundreds? Thousands? Most of these
things are do it as response to the user actions -move a window,
resize it, minimize it, restore it, writing text, selecting text, etc
- , and it's impredictable how many times they could ocurrs (but is
sure that many many times). So, not worth taking into account.

I think that Gambas programmers shouldn't be worried about that.

> When in code you create a label, what should be its initial width? 100?
> 1000? A third of the screen width? Ten characters wide (using which
> font?)? It is true, a label is supposed to show something: but what?

You forgot the start point, that is this:

  PUBLIC SUB _new()
  DIM lbl1 AS NEW Label(ME)

  lbl1.Text = "Hi people"

  END

Are nothing to think if there's no text.

> Only after you set the text property, a label comes in its true
> existence.

That's incorrect. If I do this:

  PUBLIC SUB _new()
  DIM lbl1 AS NEW Label(ME)

  PRINT lbl1

  lbl1.Text = "Hi people"

  END

I get this:

(Label 0x9647e58)

So, the object have identity just after its instantiation, like is
logical. But I you are using an figurative mode of expression (if you
meant not real existence, but meaningful existence) so I agree, that
is the start point.

> Then, if Autoresize is already true, the label should resize
> itself. If Autoresize is false, nothing should happen.

That is part on that we are discussing.

>> I think about this goal can be achieved by making TRUE the default
>> value of AutoResize property in the control Label, that make sense
>> especially in this case because Labels always should show the value of
>> its Text property (show a half string o just a part make no sense.
>> Right?). So, default AutoResize = False go against the purpose of the
>> Label control.
>>
> This could be a good idea, or not. I see that Richard does not agree,
> and probably I think the same. Sometimes it is handy, sometimes not.

No arguments here.

> Anyway, if Autoresize was true by default, you can set it to false just
> after creation.

Why? You should argue that to labels set AutoResize=False as default,
is more useful than the contrary, and I see many difficults to find
solid arguments for that (I already argued about that, and I not want
repeat my self over and over again).

>> Yes, they are two differents situations. But, what those diferent requirements?
>>
> The difference is that when a widget is created by code, the runtime
> should make as little assumptions as possible, because the user program
> will set the properties just after the creation.

> When creating widgets in interactive mode, a few reasonable assuptions
> must be made, because otherwise the user would have difficulty to
> interact with the just created object. And those "reasonable"
> assumptions often are not enough.

Yes, but anyway there's more similarities than differences. I not
found reason to eliminate some of that similarities.

> For example, all the widgets get a
> totally stupid name: Button1, Button2, TextBox25...
> when I see a program
> filled with "PUBLIC SUB Button8_Click()" my first thought is "this is a
> stupid programmer". Then I realize that I do the same, because I am too
> lazy to change those stupid names :-)

I agree, but you're losing the focus.

>> I agree. But I don't see clash between consistency and anything else
>> in this case.
>>
> I see clashes, instead. Would you say, for example, that when creating a
> label by code, its text should be set to "Label 1" automatically? This
> would be consistent, because in interactive mode a label does so.

No, obviously I don't say that. You should remember the start point.

> Anyway, the clash is with efficiency of the program. When creating
> widgets by code, a runtime should make as little assumptions as
> possible. Perhaps, in this view, it is good that Autoresize defaults to
> false - more efficient. If you want it, you set it to true.

I think that a Gambas programmer not should be worried about
efficiency when the gain is merely marginal. Is much better to address
it when the potential gain worthwhile.

Not decrease the abstraction level of the language is several orders
of magnitude more important. At this point a Gambas programmer should
be concerned to follow GUI design principles, and to compliance the
requirements.

Compare this:

'gb.gtk
  PUBLIC SUB _new()

  DIM lbl1 AS NEW Label(ME)

  lbl1.Text = "Hi people"
  lbl1.Text = "Hi people"
  lbl1.W = lbl1.Font.Width(lbl1.Text)
  lbl1.H = lbl1.Font.Height(lbl1.Text)
  lbl1.X = 0
  lbl1.Y = 0

  END

with this:

  PUBLIC SUB _new()
  DIM lbl1 AS NEW Label(ME)

  lbl1.Text = "Hi people"

  END

By the way, in gb.gtk you can do this:

  lbl1.Text = "Hi people"
  lbl1.W = lbl1.Font.Width(lbl1.Text)
  lbl1.H = lbl1.Font.Height(lbl1.Text)
  lbl1.Show

Oh my gosh! The X and Y properties were never set. ;-)

Now seriously, and to finish with this topic, you shouldn't forget
than in the most cases, labels will be placed in containers (like
hbox) with other controls. So, in a high level of abstraction, its
place is defined by the creation order, its width by the text and its
height by the default font.

As you can see, is possible make many assumptions in a inteligent
manner. If some not use containers for the layout, so the problem


-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Fri Sep  3 21:18:22 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 22:18:22 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Create Event
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim_oBU-LSp16PFtpKoMQ2H7NMZooqUDD9zmBiXy@...627...>
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"If you forget to specify the Name part, your object will never raise events!"
http://gambasdoc.org/help/lang/new

Jussi


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 09:49, Reynaldi Jansen <reynaldi.jansen at ...626...> wrote:
> Hello again.
>
> I have a form and textarea with tabstrip as parent...
> Then i create textarea1_cursor event in the first textarea...
>
> When user invoke to open new tab.count, it will create a new textarea...
>
> DIM hTextArea as TextArea
> TabStrip1.count += 1
> hTextArea = NEW TextArea(TabStrip1)
>
> My question is, how to make thatnewtextarea_cursor event just like the first
> textarea1_cursor event?
>
> Thanks!
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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  4 02:22:16 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 02:22:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Inconsistent initialization in controls: seems a
	little bug
In-Reply-To: <201009011945.14184.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTinNsdx+CQ6hHU6JSXNcr7S-94CmQDxewF=yGfd4@...627...>
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> > I tested this only for control Label:
> > 
> > When a control label is created in execution time using gb.qt, then
> > 
> > control become visible just after assign a value at the Text property:
> >   PUBLIC SUB _New()
> >   
> >     DIM lbl1 AS NEW Label(ME)
> >     
> >     lbl1.Text = "Hi people"
> >   
> >   END
> > 
> > But if you write the same code in a form using gb.gtk, the control
> > Label keeps invisible until the properties X, Y, Width and Height gets
> > values.
> 
> I'm inclined to prefer the gb.gtk behaviour than the gb.qt one, aren't you?

Some explanations, because it seems that things are not clear for you:

There is no difference in what you can do with the GUI editor and what you can 
do directly by code. The Gambas compiler just transform the GUI description 
into normal Gambas code.

So when you put a Label inside a control, it generates something like that:

<Label name> = NEW Label(<Label container>) AS "<Label event name>"
WITH <Label name>
  .Text = "<Label name>"
  .MoveScaled(<X>, <Y>, <Width>, <Height>)
END WITH

*Very important!*: When a property has its default value, no code is 
generated.

As soon as a control is created, it is automatically visible. *But*, at the 
moment, gb.qt4 assign an arbitrary size to the control, whereas gb.gtk has an 
internal system that shows the control only when a size has been attributed by 
code.

When I say that I prefer the gb.gtk behaviour, I mean I thought implementing 
the same system in gb.qt4 too.

Why? Because changing a control property is generally heavier when it is 
already visible, because it must be refreshed. So it is perfectly logical that 
controls are not visible when created (which is what do *all* GUI toolkits).

As for having "AutoResize = True" by default, it is not possible anymore, as 
it will break the existing code, because of the rule about default values of 
properties described above.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  4 02:25:07 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 02:25:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can you put a big box into a small one?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikDBFTQKk+BWXOG4adM31uL5kgLJ=ZGgz=ZPM5x@...627...>
References: <AANLkTiny8x+CttG9r_=uYLzgJvfuSxAPCdOx176kj4L9@...627...>
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Message-ID: <201009040225.07960.gambas@...1...>

> 2010/9/2 richard terry <rterry at ...1946...>:
> 
> Thanks Richard. I agree with your arguments about Gambas. Is a great tool.
> 
> I'm writing examples and small proyects to use them in the docs I'm
> writing. Now I writing a graphic control, and I find that constraint.
> I hope that now, you can understand that I'm referring to that
> constraint make not sense for me when I'm programming.
> 
> A control whose dimensions are greater than those of its container is
> only possible as a temporal (transitional) state. In most cases that
> state can't be showed to the user.

Controls are always clipped by their container, because they are windows 
inside windows, and this is how X-Window works.

*But* (there is always a *but*), now QT4 and GTK+ do not create one window for 
each control. They manage the imbrication internally. So technically they can 
make a control draw outside of its frame. But this is generally avoided.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  4 02:27:05 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 02:27:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextWidth
In-Reply-To: <4C808A0D.9050103@...1909...>
References: <AANLkTim1Yqsgq+jQNo=wPQcpqshQJ8Fg2-_EonFaUFfK@...627...>
	<4C808A0D.9050103@...1909...>
Message-ID: <201009040227.05583.gambas@...1...>

> Fabi?n Flores Vadell ha scritto:
> > When I try to adjust the width of a TextBox to its content, I use
> > txtSomeThing.Width = txtSomeThing.TextWidth(txtSomeThing.Text). But
> > doing that, the width of TextBox never be enought to show its content
> > completely.
> > 
> > I tried to find a correction factor but this is a fallible method. How
> > I can adjust exactly the width of a TextBox to its content?
> 
> The width of a widget refers to its outside width, including
> decorations. The interior width is a different thing, sometimes called
> ClientWidth; but I don't know if Gambas TextBoxes have a ClientWidth
> property. The size of the decorations should be always the same (in a
> given theme). I don't know how to calculate it but, supposed that this
> is possible and this is "8", something like
> 
>     txtSomeThing.Width = 8 + txtSomeThing.TextWidth(txtSomeThing.Text)
> 
> could work, but I am not sure.
> 
> Regards,
> Doriano
> 

I couldn't find a better solution than Doriano, because there is no easy way 
to know the size of a control border in Qt and GTK+.

Moreover, I don't see the need of adjusting a TextBox to its contents, as 
usually this is an editable control, and so the user can enter any text in it. 
Or maybe you are doing something not usual with a TextBox? :-)

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  4 02:30:35 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 02:30:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dialog multi-select
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMUxZtJhdCbObhEOtNPjkNAzfetCEZY06iOuKL@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimMUxZtJhdCbObhEOtNPjkNAzfetCEZY06iOuKL@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009040230.35788.gambas@...1...>

> Is there a way to select both files and folders in Dialog? I want to select
> multi items in a folder no distinguish that they're file or folder.

You must use a FileChooser with "ShowDirectory = True" and "Multi = True", in 
Gambas 3. But apparently that does not work with gb.gtk, as the gb.gtk is a 
bit broken.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  4 02:33:35 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 02:33:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
In-Reply-To: <1283414606.1665.10.camel@...2425...>
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> Salut Benoit,
> 
> I tested the last version with the different components:
> 
> gb.qt: still the same problem (ComboBox is read-only)
> gb.qtk: OK
> gb.gui: OK
> 
> I use gb.qt.
> 
> Robi
> 

I have just tested your with gb.qt and Gambas 2, and I don't have the problem 
anymore. Can you send me the code you are using again (to be sure)? And check 
again that you compiled and install correctly the latest trunk.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  4 02:34:44 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 02:34:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] To wish list...
In-Reply-To: <4C75F5DE.5050100@...1000...>
References: <AANLkTi=cE=+ufwv4YPz6H-8Xrvsx_Kfw-DXyJfOGYs5O@...627...>
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> On 26/08/10 03:30, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> > Hi!
> > I would like to have TimeLeft property to timer object.
> > It is only missing thing which forces me to write my own delay function.
> > 
> > So, nothing very important, but if this is easy to implement...
> > 
> > Jussi
> 
> I think that's a very good idea.
> 
> Werner
> 

Mmm. Finally it is not so easy to do, so you have to wait a bit to have this 
feature. Even Qt4 don't have it! :-)

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Sat Sep  4 14:05:50 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 15:05:50 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] To wish list...
In-Reply-To: <201009040234.44120.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTi=cE=+ufwv4YPz6H-8Xrvsx_Kfw-DXyJfOGYs5O@...627...>
	<4C75F5DE.5050100@...1000...>
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OK, doesn't matter, I'll do it other way.
Thanks for trying!

Jussi


2010/9/4 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>> On 26/08/10 03:30, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>> > Hi!
>> > I would like to have TimeLeft property to timer object.
>> > It is only missing thing which forces me to write my own delay function.
>> >
>> > So, nothing very important, but if this is easy to implement...
>> >
>> > Jussi
>>
>> I think that's a very good idea.
>>
>> Werner
>>
>
> Mmm. Finally it is not so easy to do, so you have to wait a bit to have this
> feature. Even Qt4 don't have it! :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Sat Sep  4 14:26:11 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 09:26:11 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextWidth
In-Reply-To: <201009040227.05583.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTim1Yqsgq+jQNo=wPQcpqshQJ8Fg2-_EonFaUFfK@...627...>
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2010/9/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> I couldn't find a better solution than Doriano, because there is no easy way
> to know the size of a control border in Qt and GTK+.
>
> Moreover, I don't see the need of adjusting a TextBox to its contents, as
> usually this is an editable control, and so the user can enter any text in it.
> Or maybe you are doing something not usual with a TextBox? :-)
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini


Yes is unusual. An experiment derived of a little misunderstanding,
just for learn about.

The best solution that I found was:

txtSomeThing.Width = txtSomeThing.TextWidth(txtSomeThing.Text & "W")

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Sat Sep  4 14:28:54 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 09:28:54 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can you put a big box into a small one?
In-Reply-To: <201009040225.07960.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTiny8x+CttG9r_=uYLzgJvfuSxAPCdOx176kj4L9@...627...>
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2010/9/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> Controls are always clipped by their container, because they are windows
> inside windows, and this is how X-Window works.
>
> *But* (there is always a *but*), now QT4 and GTK+ do not create one window for
> each control. They manage the imbrication internally. So technically they can
> make a control draw outside of its frame. But this is generally avoided.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini

But, is possible to do that in Gambas or this behaviour indicates a
problem in my code?


-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  4 14:31:36 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 14:31:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextWidth
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin_k=6DD=70zUqgqMkRYOMiGVzunRmY-LHbFUrM@...627...>
References: <AANLkTim1Yqsgq+jQNo=wPQcpqshQJ8Fg2-_EonFaUFfK@...627...>
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	<AANLkTin_k=6DD=70zUqgqMkRYOMiGVzunRmY-LHbFUrM@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009041431.36344.gambas@...1...>

> 2010/9/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> > I couldn't find a better solution than Doriano, because there is no easy
> > way to know the size of a control border in Qt and GTK+.
> > 
> > Moreover, I don't see the need of adjusting a TextBox to its contents, as
> > usually this is an editable control, and so the user can enter any text
> > in it. Or maybe you are doing something not usual with a TextBox? :-)
> > 
> > --
> > Beno?t Minisini
> 
> Yes is unusual. An experiment derived of a little misunderstanding,
> just for learn about.
> 
> The best solution that I found was:
> 
> txtSomeThing.Width = txtSomeThing.TextWidth(txtSomeThing.Text & "W")

This is not a solution, as the width of the border is not related to the width 
of the "W" character at all.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  4 14:32:47 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 14:32:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can you put a big box into a small one?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=jaCkODbqZYJj-8NsZxBzsZZQ3jxCVD8CqmgHp@...627...>
References: <AANLkTiny8x+CttG9r_=uYLzgJvfuSxAPCdOx176kj4L9@...627...>
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Message-ID: <201009041432.47745.gambas@...1...>

> 2010/9/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> > Controls are always clipped by their container, because they are windows
> > inside windows, and this is how X-Window works.
> > 
> > *But* (there is always a *but*), now QT4 and GTK+ do not create one
> > window for each control. They manage the imbrication internally. So
> > technically they can make a control draw outside of its frame. But this
> > is generally avoided.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > --
> > Beno?t Minisini
> 
> But, is possible to do that in Gambas or this behaviour indicates a
> problem in my code?

The rule is: a control never draws outside of its frame, even if some specific 
cases it is technically possible (i.e. the container cannot forbid that).

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Sat Sep  4 15:08:18 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 10:08:18 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Inconsistent initialization in controls: seems a
 little bug
In-Reply-To: <201009040222.16822.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTinNsdx+CQ6hHU6JSXNcr7S-94CmQDxewF=yGfd4@...627...>
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2010/9/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> Some explanations, because it seems that things are not clear for you:
>
> There is no difference in what you can do with the GUI editor and what you can
> do directly by code. The Gambas compiler just transform the GUI description
> into normal Gambas code.
>
> So when you put a Label inside a control, it generates something like that:
>
> <Label name> = NEW Label(<Label container>) AS "<Label event name>"
> WITH <Label name>
> ?.Text = "<Label name>"
> ?.MoveScaled(<X>, <Y>, <Width>, <Height>)
> END WITH
>
> *Very important!*: When a property has its default value, no code is
> generated.
>
> As soon as a control is created, it is automatically visible. *But*, at the
> moment, gb.qt4 assign an arbitrary size to the control, whereas gb.gtk has an
> internal system that shows the control only when a size has been attributed by
> code.

Thank for the explanation. I don't see here nothing that I missed.

> When I say that I prefer the gb.gtk behaviour, I mean I thought implementing
> the same system in gb.qt4 too.

That was what I understood.

> Why? Because changing a control property is generally heavier when it is
> already visible, because it must be refreshed. So it is perfectly logical that
> controls are not visible when created (which is what do *all* GUI toolkits).

Yes, that is logical. But isn't that Label remains with W=0 H=0
(making it invisible because have no dimensions) when a value is
assigned to its Text property. This is what I'm talking about.

> As for having "AutoResize = True" by default, it is not possible anymore, as
> it will break the existing code, because of the rule about default values of
> properties described above.

But, that supposed than someone will want recompile all your own
projects. Anyway, that's nothing than can't fixed by changing a line
of code. Isn't so?

However, this isn't a enough important topic.

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Sat Sep  4 15:15:11 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 10:15:11 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextWidth
In-Reply-To: <201009041431.36344.gambas@...1...>
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2010/9/4 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>> The best solution that I found was:
>>
>> txtSomeThing.Width = txtSomeThing.TextWidth(txtSomeThing.Text & "W")
>
> This is not a solution, as the width of the border is not related to the width
> of the "W" character at all.

I know that, but it works much better than "+N". However Is ugly and
fallible too.

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  4 15:16:19 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 15:16:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] several issues
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik=LjpWQjPAmQUvvdyaKS7rR37u0j2+KbuuCDmt@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik=LjpWQjPAmQUvvdyaKS7rR37u0j2+KbuuCDmt@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009041516.19098.gambas@...1...>

> - The use of references to objects obtained from "parent" and
> "children" properties is cause of circular references.

If you create circular references, the interpreter can't do anything for you. 
But please explain exactly where and how, and I would be able you better.

> 
> - Gambas (2.21 and 3) only reported the existence of circular
> references when the execution is made step by step, but when the
> execution is made by pressing F5 nothing is reported.

Please tell me how to reproduce that, I don't have this behaviour at all.

> 
> - The warning message wasn't very helpful to me until I catch the
> problem begins to use of "Parent". Would be possible to add
> information to this message?

Which one? The interpreter knows that there are circular references because 
not everything has been freed. Then it can just tell the list of classes 
having not freed instances, and how many.

> 
> - When using gb.gtk if I set Autoresize property of any control to
> TRUE, and then I get its Width and Height properties the values are
> wrong.

I have tested with a Label, and I noticed that the behaviour was not the same 
with gb.qt and gb.gtk. So I fixed that (in Gambas 3). Then I tested a 
RadioButton, and it behaves as expected. In both case, the width and height 
properties were updated correctly.

So can you provide me some code so that I can reproduce your problem?

> 
> - If I want that the width of a TextBox fit your content, I haven't a
> method to do that accurately. I found that this "hack" works, but
> haven't confidence on it.
> 
>             TextBox1.W = TextBox1.Font.TextWidth(TextBox1.Text & "W")

See my comments in another mail.

> 
> - In:
>             TextBox1.Font.TextWidth(TextBox1.Text)
> 
> I see redundancy here because there's two references to TextBox1. This
> could be just: TextBox1.Font.TextWidth(), without a real parameter the
> default should be TextBox1.Text

Impossible, as TextBox1.Font is a font object. I won't create a different font 
class for each control so that it has a TextWidth() method specific to that 
control!

> 
> - I found more problems in gb.gtk, but in brief the problem is that
> behaviour is diferent in gb.qt y gb.gtk, so I write code that works to
> gb.qt but not work on gb.gtk and vice versa.

The goal is having gb.gtk and gb.qt behave the same as much as possible, so 
each time you encounter a difference, please provide me some code to reproduce 
it, and I will be able to fix it.

Some differences of course will never be fixable, but, as I said, let's try to 
minimize them.

> 
> These troubles are consumed too much of my free time. I don't like
> that. 

What could I say!

> So, I hope discover that I wrong (so I will learn something
> else) or that this report is useful to improve these details.

Yes they are. As soon as there are explicit enough, it help me fixing 
problems. But if they are too vague, it does not help a lot.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  4 15:22:03 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 15:22:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextWidth
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=1M+y+yAscoUi_zjMX+hOXzO3Yoz_7c_x8_HyB@...627...>
References: <AANLkTim1Yqsgq+jQNo=wPQcpqshQJ8Fg2-_EonFaUFfK@...627...>
	<201009041431.36344.gambas@...1...>
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Message-ID: <201009041522.03852.gambas@...1...>

> 2010/9/4 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> >> The best solution that I found was:
> >> 
> >> txtSomeThing.Width = txtSomeThing.TextWidth(txtSomeThing.Text & "W")
> > 
> > This is not a solution, as the width of the border is not related to the
> > width of the "W" character at all.
> 
> I know that, but it works much better than "+N". However Is ugly and
> fallible too.

Alas it depends on the widget theme. For example, the Oxygen KDE style has a 
very big inside margin for textboxes, so you must add more space!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Sat Sep  4 16:08:45 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 16:08:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can you put a big box into a small one?
In-Reply-To: <201009041432.47745.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTiny8x+CttG9r_=uYLzgJvfuSxAPCdOx176kj4L9@...627...>	<201009040225.07960.gambas@...1...>	<AANLkTi=jaCkODbqZYJj-8NsZxBzsZZQ3jxCVD8CqmgHp@...627...>
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Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>> 2010/9/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>>     
>>> Controls are always clipped by their container, because they are windows
>>> inside windows, and this is how X-Window works.
>>>
>>> *But* (there is always a *but*), now QT4 and GTK+ do not create one
>>> window for each control. They manage the imbrication internally. So
>>> technically they can make a control draw outside of its frame. But this
>>> is generally avoided.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Beno?t Minisini
>>>       
>> But, is possible to do that in Gambas or this behaviour indicates a
>> problem in my code?
>>     
>
> The rule is: a control never draws outside of its frame, even if some specific 
> cases it is technically possible (i.e. the container cannot forbid that).
>   
Sorry for dropping in - I think that having a widget bigger than its 
container is different than drawing outside a container. Can it be that 
you two are talking about two different things?

About the first case, to be sincere, I never tried to experiment with 
Gambas, nor with GTK, but I am sure that, at least on ms windows, it is 
possible. Every widget can extend or be put totally outside the visible 
part of its container - nothing strange: simply it will be in part or in 
total invisible.

About the second case, if a widget does not have an own X11 window, it 
will be painted on the surface of its container, and again, anything 
will be visible outside of its container.

So, the title of this thread has a single reply: yes. You can put a big 
box inside a smaller one. If this is not possible, then there is a bug 
somewhere or some "container rearranging its childrens" logic.

Regards,
Doriano



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep  4 19:44:34 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 19:44:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can you put a big box into a small one?
In-Reply-To: <4C8252ED.9030103@...1909...>
References: <AANLkTiny8x+CttG9r_=uYLzgJvfuSxAPCdOx176kj4L9@...627...>
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Message-ID: <201009041944.34739.gambas@...1...>

> Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
> >> 2010/9/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> >>> Controls are always clipped by their container, because they are
> >>> windows inside windows, and this is how X-Window works.
> >>> 
> >>> *But* (there is always a *but*), now QT4 and GTK+ do not create one
> >>> window for each control. They manage the imbrication internally. So
> >>> technically they can make a control draw outside of its frame. But this
> >>> is generally avoided.
> >>> 
> >>> Regards,
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> Beno?t Minisini
> >> 
> >> But, is possible to do that in Gambas or this behaviour indicates a
> >> problem in my code?
> > 
> > The rule is: a control never draws outside of its frame, even if some
> > specific cases it is technically possible (i.e. the container cannot
> > forbid that).
> 
> Sorry for dropping in - I think that having a widget bigger than its
> container is different than drawing outside a container. Can it be that
> you two are talking about two different things?

Maybe!

> 
> About the first case, to be sincere, I never tried to experiment with
> Gambas, nor with GTK, but I am sure that, at least on ms windows, it is
> possible. Every widget can extend or be put totally outside the visible
> part of its container - nothing strange: simply it will be in part or in
> total invisible.
> 
> About the second case, if a widget does not have an own X11 window, it
> will be painted on the surface of its container, and again, anything
> will be visible outside of its container.
> 
> So, the title of this thread has a single reply: yes. You can put a big
> box inside a smaller one. If this is not possible, then there is a bug
> somewhere or some "container rearranging its childrens" logic.
> 
> Regards,
> Doriano
> 

Anyway, having a control bigger that its container is perfectly possible. 
Otherwise you would not have a ScrollView container!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Sat Sep  4 21:41:52 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 21:41:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Can you put a big box into a small one?
In-Reply-To: <201009041944.34739.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTiny8x+CttG9r_=uYLzgJvfuSxAPCdOx176kj4L9@...627...>	<201009041432.47745.gambas@...1...>	<4C8252ED.9030103@...1909...>
	<201009041944.34739.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C82A100.5050400@...1909...>

Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>> Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
>>     
>>>> 2010/9/3 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>>>>         
>>>>> Controls are always clipped by their container, because they are
>>>>> windows inside windows, and this is how X-Window works.
>>>>>
>>>>> *But* (there is always a *but*), now QT4 and GTK+ do not create one
>>>>> window for each control. They manage the imbrication internally. So
>>>>> technically they can make a control draw outside of its frame. But this
>>>>> is generally avoided.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Beno?t Minisini
>>>>>           
>>>> But, is possible to do that in Gambas or this behaviour indicates a
>>>> problem in my code?
>>>>         
>>> The rule is: a control never draws outside of its frame, even if some
>>> specific cases it is technically possible (i.e. the container cannot
>>> forbid that).
>>>       
>> Sorry for dropping in - I think that having a widget bigger than its
>> container is different than drawing outside a container. Can it be that
>> you two are talking about two different things?
>>     
>
> Maybe!
>
>   
>> About the first case, to be sincere, I never tried to experiment with
>> Gambas, nor with GTK, but I am sure that, at least on ms windows, it is
>> possible. Every widget can extend or be put totally outside the visible
>> part of its container - nothing strange: simply it will be in part or in
>> total invisible.
>>
>> About the second case, if a widget does not have an own X11 window, it
>> will be painted on the surface of its container, and again, anything
>> will be visible outside of its container.
>>
>> So, the title of this thread has a single reply: yes. You can put a big
>> box inside a smaller one. If this is not possible, then there is a bug
>> somewhere or some "container rearranging its childrens" logic.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doriano
>>
>>     
>
> Anyway, having a control bigger that its container is perfectly possible. 
> Otherwise you would not have a ScrollView container!
>   
That is a very special case! A container having ClientWidth/ClientHeight 
bigger than Width/Height is an interesting topological object... :-)

BTW: do you know that a 15 years old guy has been accepted at the 
Cambridge University, and his aim is to solve the Riemann hypotesis?

Regards,
Doriano




From almanova at ...1228...  Sun Sep  5 08:36:38 2010
From: almanova at ...1228... (Almanova Sistemi)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:36:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Table View edit question
Message-ID: <4C833A76.4000506@...1228...>

Hello to everyone,

I am writing a gambas program that uses the control tablewiev.

My problem is how to exit from tableview.edit when I press Return or
Enter key.

I tried tableview.cancel in tableview_save event but I get the message
"null object"

Why?

Thanks


From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Sep  5 11:58:15 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 11:58:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Table View edit question
In-Reply-To: <4C833A76.4000506@...1228...>
References: <4C833A76.4000506@...1228...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikacrvos_bvhKxYJxwCUKaE=4Dy0BV=_sSvoP+D@...627...>

2010/9/5 Almanova Sistemi <almanova at ...1228...>:
> Hello to everyone,
>
> I am writing a gambas program that uses the control tablewiev.
>
> My problem is how to exit from tableview.edit when I press Return or
> Enter key.
>
> I tried tableview.cancel in tableview_save event but I get the message
if i remember well ... just do nothing !

when you hit enter , the _save event is called...

if you do a Stop Event, then the editor is not hidden , if not the
editor is alway showed



> "null object"
>
> Why?
>
> Thanks
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From pxpert at ...626...  Sun Sep  5 13:25:53 2010
From: pxpert at ...626... (pxpert at ...626...)
Date: Sun,  5 Sep 2010 13:25:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] R: Re:  Problems with forms
Message-ID: <kJhmSjgkbX3l.Lx4BBhTn@...2474...>



-- msg. originale --
Oggetto: Re: [Gambas-user] Problems with forms
Da: jose <jose2190 at ...626...>
Data: 16/07/2010 20:11

Sorry, actually speak and write well in Spanish, my English is not so
good.

I need to send data from 'shrimp' to a php file, and receive data from
the php file.

I was reading a lot about shrimp, but the documentation is not very
extensive.

>From already thank you very much.


El vie, 16-07-2010 a las 15:40 +0200, Caveat escribi?:
> Hi Jose
> 
> I don't really understand your question, sorry.
> 
> Can you give some more details?  Do you need to send data to a
> (php-based) website and get a response back?  Generate a php file from
> some data in a Gambas form?
> 
> Please be more specific and I'm sure someone much smarter than me will
> be able to help you ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> Caveat
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 04:50 -0300, jose wrote:
> > Hello people of the community gambas.
> > implemented some time ago gambas come in my projects, but I have found
> > in the following situation:
> > 
> > I need to send gamba's form data to a file.php, and get an answer from
> > it.
> > 
> > I have searched without documentation to successful outcomes.
> > 
> > >From already thank you very much for your time ...
> > Greetings from Argentina!
> > 
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From robert1juhasz at ...626...  Sun Sep  5 15:15:09 2010
From: robert1juhasz at ...626... (Robert JUHASZ)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:15:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
In-Reply-To: <201009040233.35753.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTi=fPWCz6B2UMhXjGZ2zFwHwzuzRCw7W4UYaw_MA@...627...>
	<201009012202.24603.gambas@...1...>
	<1283414606.1665.10.camel@...2425...>
	<201009040233.35753.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikDJTQUfiMz==W6gfVw28vxz2WXtprAnZcsQskM@...627...>

Hello Benoit,

Could you pls. tell me how to check the revision of Gambas. I just redo
every time the "svn update" in the install folder (it writes me out a
revision number, this is what I refer to) and after I recompile, reinstall
gambas. But later I don't know how to check the version number.

The sample code is still the same (attached) and still buggy on my computer
(I just added a checkbox but no any effect on the issue).


BTW, an other strange effect, maybe from the same root case:
Take the same sample but make all the columns editable (otherwise the first
bug doesn't let you see the second :-)

1. When you start the app. then the whole table is visible. In this case -
after clicking into a cell - keep pressed the right arrow. it works fine, it
goes through all the cells (left-to-right and at after the last col it goes
down with one line).
2. Do the same but after starting the app, resize the form on a way that you
can see only 4 or 5 lines. Do the same as in the previous trial (right
arrow). As soon as you arrive to a line which is originally invisible,
you'll get a "null object" error message.
If you move only top-bottom then no error message.

Same as for the first bug: if you use gb.gtk or gb.gui then it works well,
only issue with the gb.qt components.

Robi

2010/9/4 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>

> > Salut Benoit,
> >
> > I tested the last version with the different components:
> >
> > gb.qt: still the same problem (ComboBox is read-only)
> > gb.qtk: OK
> > gb.gui: OK
> >
> > I use gb.qt.
> >
> > Robi
> >
>
> I have just tested your with gb.qt and Gambas 2, and I don't have the
> problem
> anymore. Can you send me the code you are using again (to be sure)? And
> check
> again that you compiled and install correctly the latest trunk.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
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From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Sun Sep  5 16:19:51 2010
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:19:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikDJTQUfiMz==W6gfVw28vxz2WXtprAnZcsQskM@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=fPWCz6B2UMhXjGZ2zFwHwzuzRCw7W4UYaw_MA@...627...>
	<201009012202.24603.gambas@...1...>
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	<201009040233.35753.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTikDJTQUfiMz==W6gfVw28vxz2WXtprAnZcsQskM@...627...>
Message-ID: <1283696391.7253.9.camel@...40...>

Am Sonntag, den 05.09.2010, 15:15 +0200 schrieb Robert JUHASZ:
> Hello Benoit,
> 
> Could you pls. tell me how to check the revision of Gambas. I just redo
> every time the "svn update" in the install folder (it writes me out a
> revision number, this is what I refer to) and after I recompile, reinstall
> gambas. But later I don't know how to check the version number.
> 
> The sample code is still the same (attached) and still buggy on my computer
> (I just added a checkbox but no any effect on the issue).
> 
> 
> BTW, an other strange effect, maybe from the same root case:
> Take the same sample but make all the columns editable (otherwise the first
> bug doesn't let you see the second :-)
> 
> 1. When you start the app. then the whole table is visible. In this case -
> after clicking into a cell - keep pressed the right arrow. it works fine, it
> goes through all the cells (left-to-right and at after the last col it goes
> down with one line).
> 2. Do the same but after starting the app, resize the form on a way that you
> can see only 4 or 5 lines. Do the same as in the previous trial (right
> arrow). As soon as you arrive to a line which is originally invisible,
> you'll get a "null object" error message.
> If you move only top-bottom then no error message.
> 
> Same as for the first bug: if you use gb.gtk or gb.gui then it works well,
> only issue with the gb.qt components.
> 
> Robi
----------------8<------------------------

Salut Robi,

for the svn-revision number type "svn info" inside the directory where
installed.

or point you shortcut for the IDE to
<path/to/the/gambas/svn/dir>/app/src/gambas2/gambas2.gambas then it
shows the rev on startup.
-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From robert1juhasz at ...626...  Sun Sep  5 18:53:41 2010
From: robert1juhasz at ...626... (Robert JUHASZ)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:53:41 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
In-Reply-To: <1283696391.7253.9.camel@...40...>
References: <AANLkTi=fPWCz6B2UMhXjGZ2zFwHwzuzRCw7W4UYaw_MA@...627...>
	<201009012202.24603.gambas@...1...>
	<1283414606.1665.10.camel@...2425...>
	<201009040233.35753.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTikDJTQUfiMz==W6gfVw28vxz2WXtprAnZcsQskM@...627...>
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Merci Charlie!

Fine, it confirmed the revision I expected:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
juhasz at ...2425...:~/install/gambas/2.0$ svn info
Path: .
URL: https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/gambas/branches/2.0
Repository Root: https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas
Repository UUID: 96304659-1d19-0410-acd0-aead272a8bd5
Revision: 3176
Node Kind: directory
Schedule: normal
Last Changed Author: gambas
Last Changed Rev: 3174
Last Changed Date: 2010-09-01 22:02:03 +0200 (Wed, 01 Sep 2010)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Regards,
Robi


2010/9/5 Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl at ...9...>

> Am Sonntag, den 05.09.2010, 15:15 +0200 schrieb Robert JUHASZ:
> > Hello Benoit,
> >
> > Could you pls. tell me how to check the revision of Gambas. I just redo
> > every time the "svn update" in the install folder (it writes me out a
> > revision number, this is what I refer to) and after I recompile,
> reinstall
> > gambas. But later I don't know how to check the version number.
> >
> > The sample code is still the same (attached) and still buggy on my
> computer
> > (I just added a checkbox but no any effect on the issue).
> >
> >
> > BTW, an other strange effect, maybe from the same root case:
> > Take the same sample but make all the columns editable (otherwise the
> first
> > bug doesn't let you see the second :-)
> >
> > 1. When you start the app. then the whole table is visible. In this case
> -
> > after clicking into a cell - keep pressed the right arrow. it works fine,
> it
> > goes through all the cells (left-to-right and at after the last col it
> goes
> > down with one line).
> > 2. Do the same but after starting the app, resize the form on a way that
> you
> > can see only 4 or 5 lines. Do the same as in the previous trial (right
> > arrow). As soon as you arrive to a line which is originally invisible,
> > you'll get a "null object" error message.
> > If you move only top-bottom then no error message.
> >
> > Same as for the first bug: if you use gb.gtk or gb.gui then it works
> well,
> > only issue with the gb.qt components.
> >
> > Robi
> ----------------8<------------------------
>
> Salut Robi,
>
> for the svn-revision number type "svn info" inside the directory where
> installed.
>
> or point you shortcut for the IDE to
> <path/to/the/gambas/svn/dir>/app/src/gambas2/gambas2.gambas then it
> shows the rev on startup.
> --
> Amicalement
> Charlie
>
>
>
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From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Sun Sep  5 19:03:47 2010
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:03:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 frame with qt4 missing border?
Message-ID: <AANLkTikbhi=yLapDdVXt6Oip42hxJ9Kofv25bbBMLGBG@...627...>

Hi,

I'm moving my apps from gambas2 to gambas3 and at runime I can't see the
border of frame controls. It's is a bug? It's a missing feature in qt4
framework? There is some way to do this?

I've sent two images: in qt3 with gambas2 you can see the border of frame
called "Filtro" and in qt4 with gambas3 it's missing.

Thanks in advance,

Ricardo D?az
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Sep  5 20:15:24 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:15:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 frame with qt4 missing border?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbhi=yLapDdVXt6Oip42hxJ9Kofv25bbBMLGBG@...627...>
References: <AANLkTikbhi=yLapDdVXt6Oip42hxJ9Kofv25bbBMLGBG@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=81omLQKpmSjmUgUs9qtPtjds8d_0__M5vv9Aa@...627...>

it come from the oxygen qt4/kde4 style... frame have no border in this style.

2010/9/5 Ricardo D?az Mart?n <oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...>:
> Hi,
>
> I'm moving my apps from gambas2 to gambas3 and at runime I can't see the
> border of frame controls. It's is a bug? It's a missing feature in qt4
> framework? There is some way to do this?
>
> I've sent two images: in qt3 with gambas2 you can see the border of frame
> called "Filtro" and in qt4 with gambas3 it's missing.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Ricardo D?az
>
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From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Sun Sep  5 20:56:18 2010
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:56:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 frame with qt4 missing border?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=81omLQKpmSjmUgUs9qtPtjds8d_0__M5vv9Aa@...627...>
References: <AANLkTikbhi=yLapDdVXt6Oip42hxJ9Kofv25bbBMLGBG@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=81omLQKpmSjmUgUs9qtPtjds8d_0__M5vv9Aa@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimbdBbx9mrpwSnGDVkebZkYwq+P9dzrkeSZ3QCq@...627...>

Thanks Fabien. You're right. The default theme in Ubuntu 10.04 haven't got
border for frames.

Regards,
Ricardo D?az

2010/9/5 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>

> it come from the oxygen qt4/kde4 style... frame have no border in this
> style.
>
> 2010/9/5 Ricardo D?az Mart?n <oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm moving my apps from gambas2 to gambas3 and at runime I can't see the
> > border of frame controls. It's is a bug? It's a missing feature in qt4
> > framework? There is some way to do this?
> >
> > I've sent two images: in qt3 with gambas2 you can see the border of frame
> > called "Filtro" and in qt4 with gambas3 it's missing.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Ricardo D?az
> >
> >
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Sep  5 21:49:51 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 21:49:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 frame with qt4 missing border?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimbdBbx9mrpwSnGDVkebZkYwq+P9dzrkeSZ3QCq@...627...>
References: <AANLkTikbhi=yLapDdVXt6Oip42hxJ9Kofv25bbBMLGBG@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=81omLQKpmSjmUgUs9qtPtjds8d_0__M5vv9Aa@...627...>
	<AANLkTimbdBbx9mrpwSnGDVkebZkYwq+P9dzrkeSZ3QCq@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=1MN3qQNXu9qrvi83sqveWYOSnRW6UrJ9CejGw@...627...>

it's not ubuntu but kde oxygen default style

2010/9/5 Ricardo D?az Mart?n <oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...>:
> Thanks Fabien. You're right. The default theme in Ubuntu 10.04 haven't got
> border for frames.
>
> Regards,
> Ricardo D?az
>
> 2010/9/5 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>
>> it come from the oxygen qt4/kde4 style... frame have no border in this
>> style.
>>
>> 2010/9/5 Ricardo D?az Mart?n <oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...>:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm moving my apps from gambas2 to gambas3 and at runime I can't see the
>> > border of frame controls. It's is a bug? It's a missing feature in qt4
>> > framework? There is some way to do this?
>> >
>> > I've sent two images: in qt3 with gambas2 you can see the border of frame
>> > called "Filtro" and in qt4 with gambas3 it's missing.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> >
>> > Ricardo D?az
>> >
>> >
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From math.eber at ...221...  Sun Sep  5 22:02:52 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:02:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Background
Message-ID: <4C83F76C.20403@...221...>

When I create a control, for example a panel, in the IDE, I can choose for
background between system colors (like "LightForeground") or free colors (like
00FF00).
When I create a control in code, only integer values are accepted for
background. So I can set only "hard" colors like 00FF00, but not "soft" colors
depending on the user's theme.
Does anybody know the integer values for system colors? Can't find anything in
the help.
Thanks
Matti



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep  5 22:27:20 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 22:27:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Background
In-Reply-To: <4C83F76C.20403@...221...>
References: <4C83F76C.20403@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009052227.20560.gambas@...1...>

> When I create a control, for example a panel, in the IDE, I can choose for
> background between system colors (like "LightForeground") or free colors
> (like 00FF00).
> When I create a control in code, only integer values are accepted for
> background. So I can set only "hard" colors like 00FF00, but not "soft"
> colors depending on the user's theme.
> Does anybody know the integer values for system colors? Can't find anything
> in the help.
> Thanks
> Matti
> 

Look at the properties of the Color class.

Everything done in the IDE form editor can be done by code!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep  5 22:56:42 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 22:56:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikDJTQUfiMz==W6gfVw28vxz2WXtprAnZcsQskM@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=fPWCz6B2UMhXjGZ2zFwHwzuzRCw7W4UYaw_MA@...627...>
	<201009040233.35753.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTikDJTQUfiMz==W6gfVw28vxz2WXtprAnZcsQskM@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009052256.42798.gambas@...1...>

> Hello Benoit,
> 
> Could you pls. tell me how to check the revision of Gambas. I just redo
> every time the "svn update" in the install folder (it writes me out a
> revision number, this is what I refer to) and after I recompile, reinstall
> gambas. But later I don't know how to check the version number.
> 
> The sample code is still the same (attached) and still buggy on my computer
> (I just added a checkbox but no any effect on the issue).

I tried again the joined example, and I have no error at all while moving the 
tableview editor with the arrow keys. I played with the checkbox, but couldn't 
get any error with that.

Can you:

- Check (again) the output of "make install" to be sure that the last gb.form 
component has been correctly compiled and install.

- Tell me which version of libqt3 you are using? Just look at the name of the 
shared library somewhere in /usr/lib or /usr/lib/qt3 or something like that.

- Tell me which desktop and which qt3 theme you are using.

Thanks in advance.

> 
> 
> BTW, an other strange effect, maybe from the same root case:
> Take the same sample but make all the columns editable (otherwise the first
> bug doesn't let you see the second :-)
> 
> 1. When you start the app. then the whole table is visible. In this case -
> after clicking into a cell - keep pressed the right arrow. it works fine,
> it goes through all the cells (left-to-right and at after the last col it
> goes down with one line).
> 2. Do the same but after starting the app, resize the form on a way that
> you can see only 4 or 5 lines. Do the same as in the previous trial (right
> arrow). As soon as you arrive to a line which is originally invisible,
> you'll get a "null object" error message.
> If you move only top-bottom then no error message.
> 
> Same as for the first bug: if you use gb.gtk or gb.gui then it works well,
> only issue with the gb.qt components.

This is apparently some strangeness in qt, as when you move the editor outside 
of the view, it is hidden. But then, it keeps having the focus (it receives 
the keyboard events), which should not be possible! I will investigate...

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Sun Sep  5 23:32:35 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 23:32:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Background
In-Reply-To: <201009052227.20560.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C83F76C.20403@...221...>
	<201009052227.20560.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C840C73.40605@...221...>

Aaah, now I see!
Was always searching in the help, and did't find anything, but it is as easy as
.Background = Color.LightForeground
Matti

Am 05.09.2010 22:27, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> When I create a control, for example a panel, in the IDE, I can choose for
>> background between system colors (like "LightForeground") or free colors
>> (like 00FF00).
>> When I create a control in code, only integer values are accepted for
>> background. So I can set only "hard" colors like 00FF00, but not "soft"
>> colors depending on the user's theme.
>> Does anybody know the integer values for system colors? Can't find anything
>> in the help.
>> Thanks
>> Matti
>>
> 
> Look at the properties of the Color class.
> 
> Everything done in the IDE form editor can be done by code!
> 
> Regards,
> 



From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep  6 03:02:33 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 03:02:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TableView issue
In-Reply-To: <201009052256.42798.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTi=fPWCz6B2UMhXjGZ2zFwHwzuzRCw7W4UYaw_MA@...627...>
	<AANLkTikDJTQUfiMz==W6gfVw28vxz2WXtprAnZcsQskM@...627...>
	<201009052256.42798.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <201009060302.33252.gambas@...1...>

> > BTW, an other strange effect, maybe from the same root case:
> > Take the same sample but make all the columns editable (otherwise the
> > first bug doesn't let you see the second :-)
> > 
> > 1. When you start the app. then the whole table is visible. In this case
> > - after clicking into a cell - keep pressed the right arrow. it works
> > fine, it goes through all the cells (left-to-right and at after the last
> > col it goes down with one line).
> > 2. Do the same but after starting the app, resize the form on a way that
> > you can see only 4 or 5 lines. Do the same as in the previous trial
> > (right arrow). As soon as you arrive to a line which is originally
> > invisible, you'll get a "null object" error message.
> > If you move only top-bottom then no error message.
> > 
> > Same as for the first bug: if you use gb.gtk or gb.gui then it works
> > well, only issue with the gb.qt components.
> 
> This is apparently some strangeness in qt, as when you move the editor
> outside of the view, it is hidden. But then, it keeps having the focus (it
> receives the keyboard events), which should not be possible! I will
> investigate...
> 
> Regards,

That second bug has been fixed in revision #3182.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Mon Sep  6 04:06:14 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:06:14 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using Open in Gambas 3
Message-ID: <1283738774.5112.5.camel@...2406...>

I use the following code to read from a text file in Gambas 2:

 Dim hFile As File  
 Dim line As String
  
 Open "text" For Read As #hFile
  
 While Not Eof(hFile)
    Line Input #hfile, line
    Print line
  Wend
 
close #hFile

------------------------------------------------------------
In Gambas 3 can not be used and must be assigned to hfile:

Dim hFile As File  
Dim line As String
  
hFile = Open "text" For Read
  
While Not Eof(hFile)
    Line Input #hfile, line
    Print linea
  Wend

close #hFile

It is a new approach?

Regards.

Cristian Abarz?a.




From charles at ...1784...  Mon Sep  6 08:12:36 2010
From: charles at ...1784... (charlesg)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 23:12:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using Open in Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <1283738774.5112.5.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283738774.5112.5.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <29631416.post@...1379...>




craf wrote:
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> In Gambas 3 can not be used and must be assigned to hfile:
> 
> Dim hFile As File  
> Dim line As String
>   
> hFile = Open "text" For Read
>   
> While Not Eof(hFile)
>     Line Input #hfile, line
>     Print linea
>   Wend
> 
> close #hFile
> 
> It is a new approach?
> 

I don't think it is new. I have always used your Gambas3 method with my
Gambas2 programs.

rgds
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep  6 10:40:12 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:40:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using Open in Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <29631416.post@...1379...>
References: <1283738774.5112.5.camel@...2406...>
	<29631416.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikMo4Y=159e+Zp0O1V-ippF5wo-xGYXZp-fAzS3@...627...>

this is new since gb2

2010/9/6 charlesg <charles at ...1784...>:
>
>
>
> craf wrote:
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> In Gambas 3 can not be used and must be assigned to hfile:
>>
>> Dim hFile As File
>> Dim line As String
>>
>> hFile = Open "text" For Read
>>
>> While Not Eof(hFile)
>> ? ? Line Input #hfile, line
>> ? ? Print linea
>> ? Wend
>>
>> close #hFile
>>
>> It is a new approach?
>>
>
> I don't think it is new. I have always used your Gambas3 method with my
> Gambas2 programs.
>
> rgds
> --
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From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Mon Sep  6 10:57:21 2010
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:57:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] qt4 gridview anormal behaviour with column's width = 0
Message-ID: <AANLkTimoexwo7mkS=yR-A2E6-vELXFK4=kB5ng7QnfkT@...627...>

Hi,

I usually use the firsts columns in a gridview to put into some relevant
information (f.e. the Id key field of the records). Because of this, after
the grid is filled, I set to "no visible" the first, the second or others
columns by set their width to 0.

In gambas2 with qt there's no problem but in gambas3 with qt4 the second
column width is mysteriously set to 100.

It's a bug?

I've attached an example of this made in gambas3. It was tested in ubuntu
10.04 x86_64 gnome.

Regards,
Ricardo D?az
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From charles at ...1784...  Mon Sep  6 12:45:48 2010
From: charles at ...1784... (charlesg)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 03:45:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using Open in Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikMo4Y=159e+Zp0O1V-ippF5wo-xGYXZp-fAzS3@...627...>
References: <1283738774.5112.5.camel@...2406...>
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Message-ID: <29632831.post@...1379...>



Fabien Bodard-4 wrote:
> 
> this is new since gb2
> 

Not sure about that. The following works even back to 2.13


  DIM j AS Integer = 0
  INC Application.busy
  hFileOut = OPEN "/home/charles/rba/rba.csv" FOR CREATE
  
  sql = "select * from stmaster"
  res = mdFile.$hConnStock.Exec(sql)
  FOR EACH res
    IF j > 100 AND j < 120 THEN 
      sellPriceExVat = (Round(res!st_sellprice1 / 1.175 * 100, 0)) / 100
      IF res!st_datelastsale > CDate("01/01/2000") THEN 
        dDate = Format(res!st_datelastsale, "dd/mm/yyyy")
      ELSE 
        dDate = ""
      ENDIF 
      sLine = Chr(34) & res!st_code & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & res!st_desc
& Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & res!st_barcode & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & "ZZ"
& Chr(34) & "," & "999" & "," & "0" & "," & Chr(34) & "S" & Chr(34) & "," &
Chr(34) & "Y" & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & res!st_unit & Chr(34) & "," & "1"
& "," & Chr(34) & "ALDRIDGE" & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & dDate & Chr(34) &
"," & res!st_minimum & "," & Chr(34) & "" & Chr(34) & "," & "1" & "," &
"0.95" & "," & "0.95" & "," & sellPriceExVat & "," & res!st_sellprice1
      PRINT #hFileOut, sLine
    ENDIF 
    j += 1
  NEXT 
  #hFileOut.Close
  DEC Application.Busy


rgds

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From prog at ...2177...  Mon Sep  6 16:55:54 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:55:54 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
Message-ID: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>

Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
OS      : Ubuntu 9.10
Desktop : Gnome 2.28

[IDE]

*Execute button does not appear well defined.

PICTURE:Execute_button.png

[GB.FORM]

*Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
Prompt as String.

PICTURE: inputbox.png

*Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.

PICTURE:ballon.png





Regards.

Cristian Abarz?a F.

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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep  6 17:18:51 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:18:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using Open in Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <29632831.post@...1379...>
References: <1283738774.5112.5.camel@...2406...>
	<29631416.post@...1379...>
	<AANLkTikMo4Y=159e+Zp0O1V-ippF5wo-xGYXZp-fAzS3@...627...>
	<29632831.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikmZJZuNj9w9TEnApq6Koyc+kYYVF9npRyJci_E@...627...>

my english is bad ... i want to say benoit have change the syntax in gb2

2010/9/6 charlesg <charles at ...1784...>:
>
>
> Fabien Bodard-4 wrote:
>>
>> this is new since gb2
>>
>
> Not sure about that. The following works even back to 2.13
>
>
> ?DIM j AS Integer = 0
> ?INC Application.busy
> ?hFileOut = OPEN "/home/charles/rba/rba.csv" FOR CREATE
>
> ?sql = "select * from stmaster"
> ?res = mdFile.$hConnStock.Exec(sql)
> ?FOR EACH res
> ? ?IF j > 100 AND j < 120 THEN
> ? ? ?sellPriceExVat = (Round(res!st_sellprice1 / 1.175 * 100, 0)) / 100
> ? ? ?IF res!st_datelastsale > CDate("01/01/2000") THEN
> ? ? ? ?dDate = Format(res!st_datelastsale, "dd/mm/yyyy")
> ? ? ?ELSE
> ? ? ? ?dDate = ""
> ? ? ?ENDIF
> ? ? ?sLine = Chr(34) & res!st_code & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & res!st_desc
> & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & res!st_barcode & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & "ZZ"
> & Chr(34) & "," & "999" & "," & "0" & "," & Chr(34) & "S" & Chr(34) & "," &
> Chr(34) & "Y" & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & res!st_unit & Chr(34) & "," & "1"
> & "," & Chr(34) & "ALDRIDGE" & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & dDate & Chr(34) &
> "," & res!st_minimum & "," & Chr(34) & "" & Chr(34) & "," & "1" & "," &
> "0.95" & "," & "0.95" & "," & sellPriceExVat & "," & res!st_sellprice1
> ? ? ?PRINT #hFileOut, sLine
> ? ?ENDIF
> ? ?j += 1
> ?NEXT
> ?#hFileOut.Close
> ?DEC Application.Busy
>
>
> rgds
>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep  6 17:25:25 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:25:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTime9mjJRnq3m7OZRaLENRstmMNKmq4Gs62Qdo9C@...627...>

for the ide button ... can you say me the gnome theme you theme

2010/9/6 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
> Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
> OS ? ? ?: Ubuntu 9.10
> Desktop : Gnome 2.28
>
> [IDE]
>
> *Execute button does not appear well defined.
>
> PICTURE:Execute_button.png
>
> [GB.FORM]
>
> *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
> Prompt as String.
>
> PICTURE: inputbox.png
>
> *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
>
> PICTURE:ballon.png
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Cristian Abarz?a F.
>
>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep  6 17:26:19 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:26:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTime9mjJRnq3m7OZRaLENRstmMNKmq4Gs62Qdo9C@...627...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTime9mjJRnq3m7OZRaLENRstmMNKmq4Gs62Qdo9C@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinJE2FZHbgNQGvHmbLbA7mR1RdxbhAUCf+MQAsZ@...627...>

2010/9/6 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
 for the ide button ... can you say me the gnome theme you
are currently use ?
for me it work well with the standart theme..

>
> 2010/9/6 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>> Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
>> OS ? ? ?: Ubuntu 9.10
>> Desktop : Gnome 2.28
>>
>> [IDE]
>>
>> *Execute button does not appear well defined.
>>
>> PICTURE:Execute_button.png
>>
>> [GB.FORM]
>>
>> *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
>> Prompt as String.
>>
>> PICTURE: inputbox.png
>>
>> *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
>>
>> PICTURE:ballon.png
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Cristian Abarz?a F.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From prog at ...2177...  Mon Sep  6 17:27:52 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:27:52 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Using Open in Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikmZJZuNj9w9TEnApq6Koyc+kYYVF9npRyJci_E@...627...>
References: <1283738774.5112.5.camel@...2406...>
	<29631416.post@...1379...>
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	<29632831.post@...1379...>
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Message-ID: <1283786872.8596.1.camel@...2406...>

OK, thank you.

Cristian Abarzua F.

>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Using Open in Gambas 3
>Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:18:51 +0200

>my english is bad ... i want to say benoit have change the syntax in gb2

>2010/9/6 charlesg <charles at ...1784...>:
>
>
> Fabien Bodard-4 wrote:
>>
>> this is new since gb2
>>
>
> Not sure about that. The following works even back to 2.13
>
>
>  DIM j AS Integer = 0
>  INC Application.busy
>  hFileOut = OPEN "/home/charles/rba/rba.csv" FOR CREATE
>
>  sql = "select * from stmaster"
>  res = mdFile.$hConnStock.Exec(sql)
>  FOR EACH res
>    IF j > 100 AND j < 120 THEN
>      sellPriceExVat = (Round(res!st_sellprice1 / 1.175 * 100, 0)) / 100
>      IF res!st_datelastsale > CDate("01/01/2000") THEN
>        dDate = Format(res!st_datelastsale, "dd/mm/yyyy")
>      ELSE
>        dDate = ""
>      ENDIF
>      sLine = Chr(34) & res!st_code & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & res!st_desc
> & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & res!st_barcode & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & "ZZ"
> & Chr(34) & "," & "999" & "," & "0" & "," & Chr(34) & "S" & Chr(34) & "," &
> Chr(34) & "Y" & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & res!st_unit & Chr(34) & "," & "1"
> & "," & Chr(34) & "ALDRIDGE" & Chr(34) & "," & Chr(34) & dDate & Chr(34) &
> "," & res!st_minimum & "," & Chr(34) & "" & Chr(34) & "," & "1" & "," &
> "0.95" & "," & "0.95" & "," & sellPriceExVat & "," & res!st_sellprice1
>      PRINT #hFileOut, sLine
>    ENDIF
>    j += 1
>  NEXT
>  #hFileOut.Close
>  DEC Application.Busy
>
>
> rgds
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Using-Open-in-Gambas-3-tp29630809p29632831.html
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From prog at ...2177...  Mon Sep  6 17:36:17 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:36:17 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinJE2FZHbgNQGvHmbLbA7mR1RdxbhAUCf+MQAsZ@...627...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTime9mjJRnq3m7OZRaLENRstmMNKmq4Gs62Qdo9C@...627...>
	<AANLkTinJE2FZHbgNQGvHmbLbA7mR1RdxbhAUCf+MQAsZ@...627...>
Message-ID: <1283787377.8596.4.camel@...2406...>

I do not use modified themes. The one I use is Human Clearlooks.
This is one of those that come by default in Ubuntu 9.10.

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua F

>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:26:19 +0200

>2010/9/6 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> for the ide button ... can you say me the gnome theme you
>are currently use ?
>for me it work well with the standart theme..

>
> 2010/9/6 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>> Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
>> OS      : Ubuntu 9.10
>> Desktop : Gnome 2.28
>>
>> [IDE]
>>
>> *Execute button does not appear well defined.
>>
>> PICTURE:Execute_button.png
>>
>> [GB.FORM]
>>
>> *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
>> Prompt as String.
>>
>> PICTURE: inputbox.png
>>
>> *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
>>
>> PICTURE:ballon.png
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Cristian Abarz?a F.
>>
>>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep  6 17:37:38 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:37:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinJE2FZHbgNQGvHmbLbA7mR1RdxbhAUCf+MQAsZ@...627...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTime9mjJRnq3m7OZRaLENRstmMNKmq4Gs62Qdo9C@...627...>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTin9gpcwafkRasLf9ad=Wf_rq_HY=fUYEv6WeYWe@...627...>

i will see the icon problem this evening as if i select a user theme
gambas crash...

i've forgotten to manage gnome user theme

2010/9/6 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> 2010/9/6 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> ?for the ide button ... can you say me the gnome theme you
> are currently use ?
> for me it work well with the standart theme..
>
>>
>> 2010/9/6 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>>> Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
>>> OS ? ? ?: Ubuntu 9.10
>>> Desktop : Gnome 2.28
>>>
>>> [IDE]
>>>
>>> *Execute button does not appear well defined.
>>>
>>> PICTURE:Execute_button.png
>>>
>>> [GB.FORM]
>>>
>>> *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
>>> Prompt as String.
>>>
>>> PICTURE: inputbox.png
>>>
>>> *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
>>>
>>> PICTURE:ballon.png
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Cristian Abarz?a F.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep  6 18:11:44 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:11:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <1283787377.8596.4.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
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2010/9/6 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
> I do not use modified themes. The one I use is Human Clearlooks.
> This is one of those that come by default in Ubuntu 9.10.
Normally it will work for you if it work for me ... we have both
ubuntu and gnome !

>
> Regards.
>
> Cristian Abarzua F
>
>>-----Mensaje original-----
>>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>>Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:26:19 +0200
>
>>2010/9/6 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
>> for the ide button ... can you say me the gnome theme you
>>are currently use ?
>>for me it work well with the standart theme..
>
>>
>> 2010/9/6 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>>> Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
>>> OS ? ? ?: Ubuntu 9.10
>>> Desktop : Gnome 2.28
>>>
>>> [IDE]
>>>
>>> *Execute button does not appear well defined.
>>>
>>> PICTURE:Execute_button.png
>>>
>>> [GB.FORM]
>>>
>>> *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
>>> Prompt as String.
>>>
>>> PICTURE: inputbox.png
>>>
>>> *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
>>>
>>> PICTURE:ballon.png
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Cristian Abarz?a F.
>>>
>>>
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>>
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From prog at ...2177...  Mon Sep  6 19:05:05 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:05:05 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinyAxD3GM7YsRdREy3gODP4qPk2fHiYo6NST1U3@...627...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTime9mjJRnq3m7OZRaLENRstmMNKmq4Gs62Qdo9C@...627...>
	<AANLkTinJE2FZHbgNQGvHmbLbA7mR1RdxbhAUCf+MQAsZ@...627...>
	<1283787377.8596.4.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTinyAxD3GM7YsRdREy3gODP4qPk2fHiYo6NST1U3@...627...>
Message-ID: <1283792705.9054.1.camel@...2406...>

Hi

Problem seems to be the icon that comes with the sources of Gambas 3.
Framework

Regards

Cristian Abarzua F.

>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:11:44 +0200

>2010/9/6 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>> I do not use modified themes. The one I use is Human Clearlooks.>
> This is one of those that come by default in Ubuntu 9.10.
>Normally it will work for you if it work for me ... we have both
>ubuntu and gnome !

>
> Regards.
>
> Cristian Abarzua F
>
>>-----Mensaje original-----
>>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>>Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:26:19 +0200
>
>>2010/9/6 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
>> for the ide button ... can you say me the gnome theme you
>>are currently use ?
>>for me it work well with the standart theme..
>
>>
>> 2010/9/6 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>>> Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
>>> OS      : Ubuntu 9.10
>>> Desktop : Gnome 2.28
>>>
>>> [IDE]
>>>
>>> *Execute button does not appear well defined.
>>>
>>> PICTURE:Execute_button.png
>>>
>>> [GB.FORM]
>>>
>>> *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
>>> Prompt as String.
>>>
>>> PICTURE: inputbox.png
>>>
>>> *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
>>>
>>> PICTURE:ballon.png
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Cristian Abarz?a F.
>>>
>>>
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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep  6 19:45:14 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:45:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009061945.14796.gambas@...1...>

> Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
> OS      : Ubuntu 9.10
> Desktop : Gnome 2.28
> 
> [IDE]
> 
> *Execute button does not appear well defined.
> 
> PICTURE:Execute_button.png
> 

As Fabien, I don't have the problem. I have a Mandriva with the standard gnome 
icon theme. Which icon theme do you use?

> [GB.FORM]
> 
> *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
> Prompt as String.
> 
> PICTURE: inputbox.png
> 

It should be fixed in revision #3183.

> *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
> 
> PICTURE:ballon.png
> 

Which version of qt4 is installed on your system? I had strangeness in balloon 
display in Mandriva 2010.0, but not with 2010.1 with the last version of qt4 
installed.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Mon Sep  6 20:04:04 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:04:04 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <201009061945.14796.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<201009061945.14796.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1283796244.9054.7.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:45:14 +0200

> Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
> OS      : Ubuntu 9.10
> Desktop : Gnome 2.28
> 
> [IDE]
> 
> *Execute button does not appear well defined.
> 
> PICTURE:Execute_button.png
> 

>As Fabien, I don't have the problem. I have a Mandriva with the standard gnome 
>icon theme. Which icon theme do you use?

The strange thing is that happens only with the play icon and pause.

Where do the icons load the ide? Of those that come with Gnome? In that directory looking for?

Try to modify the icon play.png that is in trunk/comp/src/gb.form.stock/stock/16, but not making the changes.

> [GB.FORM]
> 
> *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
> Prompt as String.
> 
> PICTURE: inputbox.png
> 

>It should be fixed in revision #3183.

> *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
> 
> PICTURE:ballon.png
> 

>Which version of qt4 is installed on your system? I had strangeness in balloon 
>display in Mandriva 2010.0, but not with 2010.1 with the last version of qt4 
>installed.

I use Gnome and I have the kdelibs4-dev package to display the projects qt

Regards,

Cristian abarzua F.






From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep  6 20:10:37 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:10:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <1283796244.9054.7.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<201009061945.14796.gambas@...1...>
	<1283796244.9054.7.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinYe1BdPzDRCg6djTbW3n-8nDVdcEYMuJxU+yH=@mail.gmail.com>

j'arrive !

2010/9/6 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
> Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:45:14 +0200
>
>> Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
>> OS ? ? ?: Ubuntu 9.10
>> Desktop : Gnome 2.28
>>
>> [IDE]
>>
>> *Execute button does not appear well defined.
>>
>> PICTURE:Execute_button.png
>>
>
>>As Fabien, I don't have the problem. I have a Mandriva with the standard gnome
>>icon theme. Which icon theme do you use?
>
> The strange thing is that happens only with the play icon and pause.
>
> Where do the icons load the ide? Of those that come with Gnome? In that directory looking for?
>
> Try to modify the icon play.png that is in trunk/comp/src/gb.form.stock/stock/16, but not making the changes.
>
>> [GB.FORM]
>>
>> *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
>> Prompt as String.
>>
>> PICTURE: inputbox.png
>>
>
>>It should be fixed in revision #3183.
>
>> *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
>>
>> PICTURE:ballon.png
>>
>
>>Which version of qt4 is installed on your system? I had strangeness in balloon
>>display in Mandriva 2010.0, but not with 2010.1 with the last version of qt4
>>installed.
>
> I use Gnome and I have the kdelibs4-dev package to display the projects qt
>
> Regards,
>
> Cristian abarzua F.
>
>
>
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep  6 20:12:47 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:12:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <1283796244.9054.7.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<201009061945.14796.gambas@...1...>
	<1283796244.9054.7.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009062012.47700.gambas@...1...>

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
> Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:45:14 +0200
> 
> > Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
> > OS      : Ubuntu 9.10
> > Desktop : Gnome 2.28
> > 
> > [IDE]
> > 
> > *Execute button does not appear well defined.
> > 
> > PICTURE:Execute_button.png
> >
> >As Fabien, I don't have the problem. I have a Mandriva with the standard
> >gnome icon theme. Which icon theme do you use?
> 
> The strange thing is that happens only with the play icon and pause.
> 
> Where do the icons load the ide? Of those that come with Gnome? In that
> directory looking for?

The directory of the icon theme you are using.

> 
> Try to modify the icon play.png that is in
> trunk/comp/src/gb.form.stock/stock/16, but not making the changes.
> 

OK, but which icon theme do you use?

> > [GB.FORM]
> > 
> > *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
> > Prompt as String.
> > 
> > PICTURE: inputbox.png
> >
> >It should be fixed in revision #3183.
> >
> > *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
> > 
> > PICTURE:ballon.png
> >
> >Which version of qt4 is installed on your system? I had strangeness in
> >balloon display in Mandriva 2010.0, but not with 2010.1 with the last
> >version of qt4 installed.
> 
> I use Gnome and I have the kdelibs4-dev package to display the projects qt

OK, but which version of qt4 do you use? Look at the name of the qt4 package, 
it should be in it.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep  6 20:24:36 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:24:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <201009062012.47700.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<201009061945.14796.gambas@...1...>
	<1283796244.9054.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009062012.47700.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik=GpDVvfZUiMnp53j1HxX_HeRK=w07gAaVrojS@...627...>

well, try the last commit please for icons

Le 6 septembre 2010 20:12, Beno?t Minisini
<gambas at ...1...> a ?crit :
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>> Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:45:14 +0200
>>
>> > Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
>> > OS ? ? ?: Ubuntu 9.10
>> > Desktop : Gnome 2.28
>> >
>> > [IDE]
>> >
>> > *Execute button does not appear well defined.
>> >
>> > PICTURE:Execute_button.png
>> >
>> >As Fabien, I don't have the problem. I have a Mandriva with the standard
>> >gnome icon theme. Which icon theme do you use?
>>
>> The strange thing is that happens only with the play icon and pause.
>>
>> Where do the icons load the ide? Of those that come with Gnome? In that
>> directory looking for?
>
> The directory of the icon theme you are using.
>
>>
>> Try to modify the icon play.png that is in
>> trunk/comp/src/gb.form.stock/stock/16, but not making the changes.
>>
>
> OK, but which icon theme do you use?
>
>> > [GB.FORM]
>> >
>> > *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
>> > Prompt as String.
>> >
>> > PICTURE: inputbox.png
>> >
>> >It should be fixed in revision #3183.
>> >
>> > *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
>> >
>> > PICTURE:ballon.png
>> >
>> >Which version of qt4 is installed on your system? I had strangeness in
>> >balloon display in Mandriva 2010.0, but not with 2010.1 with the last
>> >version of qt4 installed.
>>
>> I use Gnome and I have the kdelibs4-dev package to display the projects qt
>
> OK, but which version of qt4 do you use? Look at the name of the qt4 package,
> it should be in it.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep  6 20:35:56 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:35:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] qt4 gridview anormal behaviour with column's
	width = 0
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimoexwo7mkS=yR-A2E6-vELXFK4=kB5ng7QnfkT@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimoexwo7mkS=yR-A2E6-vELXFK4=kB5ng7QnfkT@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009062035.57007.gambas@...1...>

> Hi,
> 
> I usually use the firsts columns in a gridview to put into some relevant
> information (f.e. the Id key field of the records). Because of this, after
> the grid is filled, I set to "no visible" the first, the second or others
> columns by set their width to 0.
> 
> In gambas2 with qt there's no problem but in gambas3 with qt4 the second
> column width is mysteriously set to 100.
> 
> It's a bug?
> 
> I've attached an example of this made in gambas3. It was tested in ubuntu
> 10.04 x86_64 gnome.
> 
> Regards,
> Ricardo D?az

the bug has been fixed in revision #3186.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Mon Sep  6 21:11:27 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:11:27 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik=GpDVvfZUiMnp53j1HxX_HeRK=w07gAaVrojS@...627...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<201009061945.14796.gambas@...1...>
	<1283796244.9054.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009062012.47700.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTik=GpDVvfZUiMnp53j1HxX_HeRK=w07gAaVrojS@...627...>
Message-ID: <1283800287.13008.3.camel@...2406...>

>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:24:36 +0200

>well, try the last commit please for icons

The problem is not Gambas 3, but the icons that come with the theme Human-Clearlooks (Icons Humanity).

>Le 6 septembre 2010 20:12, Beno?t Minisini
<gambas at ...1...> a ?crit :
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>> Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:45:14 +0200
>>
>> > Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
>> > OS      : Ubuntu 9.10
>> > Desktop : Gnome 2.28
>> >
>> > [IDE]
>> >
>> > *Execute button does not appear well defined.
>> >
>> > PICTURE:Execute_button.png
>> >
>> >As Fabien, I don't have the problem. I have a Mandriva with the standard
>> >gnome icon theme. Which icon theme do you use?
>>
>> The strange thing is that happens only with the play icon and pause.
>>
>> Where do the icons load the ide? Of those that come with Gnome? In that
>> directory looking for?
>
> The directory of the icon theme you are using.
>
>>
>> Try to modify the icon play.png that is in
>> trunk/comp/src/gb.form.stock/stock/16, but not making the changes.
>>
>
> OK, but which icon theme do you use?
>
>> > [GB.FORM]
>> >
>> > *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
>> > Prompt as String.
>> >
>> > PICTURE: inputbox.png
>> >
>> >It should be fixed in revision #3183.
>> >
>> > *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
>> >
>> > PICTURE:ballon.png
>> >
>> >Which version of qt4 is installed on your system? I had strangeness in
>> >balloon display in Mandriva 2010.0, but not with 2010.1 with the last
>> >version of qt4 installed.
>>
>> I use Gnome and I have the kdelibs4-dev package to display the projects qt
>
> OK, but which version of qt4 do you use? Look at the name of the qt4 package,
> it should be in it.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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From prog at ...2177...  Mon Sep  6 21:18:10 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:18:10 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <201009062012.47700.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<201009061945.14796.gambas@...1...>
	<1283796244.9054.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009062012.47700.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1283800690.13008.5.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:12:47 +0200

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
> Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:45:14 +0200
> 
> > Gambas 3: Revisi?n : 3182
> > OS      : Ubuntu 9.10
> > Desktop : Gnome 2.28
> > 
> > [IDE]
> > 
> > *Execute button does not appear well defined.
> > 
> > PICTURE:Execute_button.png
> >
> >As Fabien, I don't have the problem. I have a Mandriva with the standard
> >gnome icon theme. Which icon theme do you use?
> 
> The strange thing is that happens only with the play icon and pause.
> 
> Where do the icons load the ide? Of those that come with Gnome? In that
> directory looking for?

>The directory of the icon theme you are using.

> 
> Try to modify the icon play.png that is in
> trunk/comp/src/gb.form.stock/stock/16, but not making the changes.
> 

>OK, but which icon theme do you use?

> > [GB.FORM]
> > 
> > *Inputbox control overflows when entering a string too long in parameter
> > Prompt as String.
> > 
> > PICTURE: inputbox.png
> >
> >It should be fixed in revision #3183.
> >
> > *Balloon Control is distorted sometimes.
> > 
> > PICTURE:ballon.png
> >
> >Which version of qt4 is installed on your system? I had strangeness in
> >balloon display in Mandriva 2010.0, but not with 2010.1 with the last
> >version of qt4 installed.
> 
> I use Gnome and I have the kdelibs4-dev package to display the projects qt

>OK, but which version of qt4 do you use? Look at the name of the qt4 package, 
>it should be in it.

Sorry, had not understood.

libqt3 3.3.8



Regards,







From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep  6 21:25:04 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 21:25:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <1283800690.13008.5.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<201009062012.47700.gambas@...1...>
	<1283800690.13008.5.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009062125.04919.gambas@...1...>

> > I use Gnome and I have the kdelibs4-dev package to display the projects
> > qt
> >
> >OK, but which version of qt4 do you use? Look at the name of the qt4
> >package, it should be in it.
> 
> Sorry, had not understood.
> 
> libqt3 3.3.8
> 

You didn't understand yet. :-) Gambas 3 does not use libqt3, but libqt4.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Mon Sep  6 21:37:32 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:37:32 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <201009062125.04919.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<201009062012.47700.gambas@...1...>
	<1283800690.13008.5.camel@...2406...>
	<201009062125.04919.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1283801852.13008.7.camel@...2406...>

>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 21:25:04 +0200

> > I use Gnome and I have the kdelibs4-dev package to display the projects
> > qt
> >
> >OK, but which version of qt4 do you use? Look at the name of the qt4
> >package, it should be in it.
> 
> Sorry, had not understood.
> 
> libqt3 3.3.8
> 

>You didn't understand yet. :-) Gambas 3 does not use libqt3, but libqt4.

ja,ja. Today I'm on another planet, sorry.

libqt4 4.5.3

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua





From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Mon Sep  6 22:07:38 2010
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:07:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] qt4 gridview anormal behaviour with column's
 width = 0
In-Reply-To: <201009062035.57007.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTimoexwo7mkS=yR-A2E6-vELXFK4=kB5ng7QnfkT@...627...>
	<201009062035.57007.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikSOGFHZmJLaKGVUtHKvCNu40H9-mVr7hnYsaYN@...627...>

Thanks Benoit. It works fine now.

Regards,
Ricardo D?az

2010/9/6 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>

> > Hi,
> >
> > I usually use the firsts columns in a gridview to put into some relevant
> > information (f.e. the Id key field of the records). Because of this,
> after
> > the grid is filled, I set to "no visible" the first, the second or others
> > columns by set their width to 0.
> >
> > In gambas2 with qt there's no problem but in gambas3 with qt4 the second
> > column width is mysteriously set to 100.
> >
> > It's a bug?
> >
> > I've attached an example of this made in gambas3. It was tested in ubuntu
> > 10.04 x86_64 gnome.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ricardo D?az
>
> the bug has been fixed in revision #3186.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep  6 22:14:36 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:14:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <1283800287.13008.3.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTik=GpDVvfZUiMnp53j1HxX_HeRK=w07gAaVrojS@...627...>
	<1283800287.13008.3.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009062214.36762.gambas@...1...>

> >-----Mensaje original-----
> >De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
> >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
> >Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:24:36 +0200
> >
> >well, try the last commit please for icons
> 
> The problem is not Gambas 3, but the icons that come with the theme
> Human-Clearlooks (Icons Humanity).
> 

I just tried with Ubuntu 10.04 64 bits, with the default icon theme then the 
Humanity icon theme, and all IDE icons are perfectly visible.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Tue Sep  7 00:46:52 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:46:52 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision Number of Repo Subversion Gambas 3
Message-ID: <1283813212.17134.1.camel@...2406...>

Hi.

Is there any way to determine the revision number that takes the
subversion repository in Gambas 3.?
I want to make a small script to see daily changes and download the
latest revision date.

Regards

Cristian Abarzua F.




From prog at ...2177...  Tue Sep  7 01:06:17 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:06:17 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <201009062214.36762.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTik=GpDVvfZUiMnp53j1HxX_HeRK=w07gAaVrojS@...627...>
	<1283800287.13008.3.camel@...2406...>
	<201009062214.36762.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1283814377.17134.8.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:14:36 +0200

> >-----Mensaje original-----
> >De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
> >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
> >Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:24:36 +0200
> >
> >well, try the last commit please for icons
> 
> The problem is not Gambas 3, but the icons that come with the theme
> Human-Clearlooks (Icons Humanity).
> 

>I just tried with Ubuntu 10.04 64 bits, with the default icon theme then the 
>Humanity icon theme, and all IDE icons are perfectly visible.

Perform a clean installation of Ubuntu 9.10 I installed Gambas3 (Rev
3188).
The problem persists. even changing themes.

Regards

Cristian Abarz?a





From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep  7 02:19:52 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:19:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision Number of Repo Subversion Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <1283813212.17134.1.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283813212.17134.1.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009070219.52993.gambas@...1...>

> Hi.
> 
> Is there any way to determine the revision number that takes the
> subversion repository in Gambas 3.?
> I want to make a small script to see daily changes and download the
> latest revision date.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F.
> 

The best way is to subscribe to the gambas-devel-svn mailing-list, and you 
will receive a mail for each new revision.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Tue Sep  7 02:24:21 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:24:21 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision Number of Repo Subversion Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <201009070219.52993.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283813212.17134.1.camel@...2406...>
	<201009070219.52993.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1283819061.19861.0.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Revision Number of Repo Subversion Gambas 3
Fecha: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:19:52 +0200

> Hi.
> 
> Is there any way to determine the revision number that takes the
> subversion repository in Gambas 3.?
> I want to make a small script to see daily changes and download the
> latest revision date.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F.
> 

>The best way is to subscribe to the gambas-devel-svn mailing-list, and you 
>will receive a mail for each new revision.

Ok. Thank you.

Regards

Cristian Abarzua F




From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Tue Sep  7 05:19:44 2010
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (kevinfishburne)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:19:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas class to read a joystick
In-Reply-To: <200803021736.43761.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
References: <200803021736.43761.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
Message-ID: <29639131.post@...1379...>



Rob Kudla wrote:
> 
> Someone on linuxbasic.net asked for a way to read a joystick in 
> Gambas.  I couldn't find anything in the SDL component for that 
> purpose, so I wrote a minimal class that reads from the raw device, 
> parses the data into something useful, and throws events.  I wrote a 
> program to demonstrate it as well.
> 

Referenced from:

http://old.nabble.com/Gambas-class-to-read-a-joystick-td15794466.html#a15797006

Hi Rob. Thanks for the awesome code. It was the only method I could find for
reading a gamepad in GAMBAS. I've since integrated it into my own program
and thought I'd list it here for folks who need to monitor asynchronous
button presses along with stick input.

I've integrated a time stamp comparison for each button so "taps" and
"holds" may be differentiated. I left debug prints where programmers may
insert their own code (myself included). The values are reported from a PS2
"dual shock"-style USB controller, a Logitech "DUAL ACTION" $30 piece of
history. Here it is, for better or worse:

' Gambas module file
' Player input module

PUBLIC pad_device AS Process    ' Device to accept gamepad input.
PUBLIC pad_time AS Integer      ' Current time input occurred.
PUBLIC pad_data AS Short        ' Current input data (stick data, 0=press,
1=release).
PUBLIC pad_type AS Byte         ' Current input type (1 = button, 2 =
stick).
' Current button or axis number.
' (0 - 11 = buttons, 0 = left horizontal, 1 = left verticle, 2 = right
horizontal, 3 = right verticle, 4 = d-pad horizontal, 5 = d-pad verticle).
PUBLIC pad_number AS Byte
PUBLIC button AS Integer[12, 2] ' Button number, old button status (true =
pressed, false = released) and time stamp.
PUBLIC taptime AS Integer = 375 ' Number of milliseconds to elapse after
holding a button for it to become a hold command.

PUBLIC SUB Initialize()

  ' Perform player input initialization.

  ' Set up the gamepad.
  pad_device = EXEC ["cat", "/dev/input/js0"] FOR READ AS "Gamepad"
  WAIT 1

END

PUBLIC SUB Gamepad_READ()

  ' General declarations.
  DIM counter AS Byte

  ' Read new gamepad data.
  READ #pad_device, pad_time, 4
  READ #pad_device, pad_data, 2
  READ #pad_device, pad_type, 1
  READ #pad_device, pad_number, 1

  ' Deal with button mashing.
  IF pad_type = 1 THEN
    ' Button mashing has occurred.
    IF pad_data = 1 THEN
      ' Button was pressed.
      button[pad_number, 0] = TRUE
      button[pad_number, 1] = pad_time
    ELSE
      ' Button was released.
      FOR counter = 0 TO 11
        ' Determine if button was tapped or held.
        IF pad_number = counter THEN
          IF Abs(pad_time - button[counter, 1]) < taptime THEN
            PRINT "tapped", Abs(pad_time - button[counter, 1])
          ELSE
            PRINT "held", Abs(pad_time - button[counter, 1])
          ENDIF
        ENDIF
      NEXT
      ' Preserve command history.
      button[pad_number, 0] = FALSE
      button[pad_number, 1] = pad_time
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
  ' Deal with stick flailing.
  IF pad_type = 2 THEN
    ' Stick flailing has occurred.
    SELECT CASE pad_number
      CASE 0
        ' Left analog, horizontal.
        IF pad_data < 0 THEN PRINT "Left analog: Move left"
        IF pad_data > 0 THEN PRINT "Left analog: Move right"
      CASE 1
        ' Left analog, vertical.
        IF pad_data < 0 THEN PRINT "Left analog: Move up"
        IF pad_data > 0 THEN PRINT "Left analog: Move down"
      CASE 2
        ' Right analog, horizontal.
        IF pad_data < 0 THEN PRINT "Right analog: Move left"
        IF pad_data > 0 THEN PRINT "Right analog: Move right"
      CASE 3
        ' Right analog, vertical.
        IF pad_data < 0 THEN PRINT "Right analog: Move up"
        IF pad_data > 0 THEN PRINT "Right analog: Move down"
      CASE 4
        ' D-pad, horizontal.
        IF pad_data < 0 THEN PRINT "D-pad: Move left"
        IF pad_data > 0 THEN PRINT "D-pad: Move right"
      CASE 5
        ' D-pad, vertical.
        IF pad_data < 0 THEN PRINT "D-pad: Move up"
        IF pad_data > 0 THEN PRINT "D-pad: Move down"
    END SELECT
  ENDIF

  ' Debug info.
  PRINT "pad_time: " & Str$(pad_time), "pad_data: " & Str$(pad_data),
"pad_type: " & Str$(pad_type), "pad_number: " & Str$(pad_number)

END


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From daniel.vanhee at ...626...  Tue Sep  7 08:21:53 2010
From: daniel.vanhee at ...626... (Daniel Vanhee)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 08:21:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] dialog.select font & conf setting
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=2M=TC6MMiNzmv9AUsFuRLArnAzw7_J1+tywbe@...627...>

Hallo everyone,

i am new to gambas and trying some things out.
I would like to give the user of my program the opportunity to choose a
font.
The default title of the dialog.selectFont must been changed
The font that has been chosen must be written  to the conf-file

My code is as follows

PUBLIC SUB mnuFormatFont_Click()
  ' set the title
  ' let choose the font
  ' apply the font
  ' write chosen font to the conf file
  Dialog.Title = " Kies een font "
  Dialog.SelectFont
  TextArea1.Font = Dialog.Font
  Settings["Tekst/Lettertype"] = TextArea1.Font
END

When running the program
- the title is not changed
- the data are not written to the conf file

What is wrong?

Daniel.


From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Sep  7 09:52:04 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:52:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <1283814377.17134.8.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTik=GpDVvfZUiMnp53j1HxX_HeRK=w07gAaVrojS@...627...>
	<1283800287.13008.3.camel@...2406...>
	<201009062214.36762.gambas@...1...>
	<1283814377.17134.8.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim8oDoLjUz1VYPfd16eK8VxYhcKqwDX07WbWfYQ@...627...>

ok have you an icon named : media-playback-start (.png or .svg) ?

in /usr/share/icons/Human(or Humanity)/22/

2010/9/7 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
> Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:14:36 +0200
>
>> >-----Mensaje original-----
>> >De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>> >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>> ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> >Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>> >Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:24:36 +0200
>> >
>> >well, try the last commit please for icons
>>
>> The problem is not Gambas 3, but the icons that come with the theme
>> Human-Clearlooks (Icons Humanity).
>>
>
>>I just tried with Ubuntu 10.04 64 bits, with the default icon theme then the
>>Humanity icon theme, and all IDE icons are perfectly visible.
>
> Perform a clean installation of Ubuntu 9.10 I installed Gambas3 (Rev
> 3188).
> The problem persists. even changing themes.
>
> Regards
>
> Cristian Abarz?a
>
>
>
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From dosida at ...626...  Tue Sep  7 10:28:40 2010
From: dosida at ...626... (Dimitris Anogiatis)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:28:40 -0600
Subject: [Gambas-user] dialog.select font & conf setting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=2M=TC6MMiNzmv9AUsFuRLArnAzw7_J1+tywbe@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=2M=TC6MMiNzmv9AUsFuRLArnAzw7_J1+tywbe@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinSJTdWE9eG6yvo=ZCoLChkhJzen3-juwqRLSD=@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Daniel,

Try Dialog.SelectFont()

Gambas might be thinking that Dialog.SelectFont is a property so try it with
a pair of parenthesis at the end

Hope this helps

Regards
Dimitris

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Daniel Vanhee <daniel.vanhee at ...626...>wrote:

> Hallo everyone,
>
> i am new to gambas and trying some things out.
> I would like to give the user of my program the opportunity to choose a
> font.
> The default title of the dialog.selectFont must been changed
> The font that has been chosen must be written  to the conf-file
>
> My code is as follows
>
> PUBLIC SUB mnuFormatFont_Click()
>  ' set the title
>  ' let choose the font
>  ' apply the font
>  ' write chosen font to the conf file
>  Dialog.Title = " Kies een font "
>  Dialog.SelectFont
>  TextArea1.Font = Dialog.Font
>  Settings["Tekst/Lettertype"] = TextArea1.Font
> END
>
> When running the program
> - the title is not changed
> - the data are not written to the conf file
>
> What is wrong?
>
> Daniel.
>
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From prog at ...2177...  Tue Sep  7 16:33:36 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:33:36 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim8oDoLjUz1VYPfd16eK8VxYhcKqwDX07WbWfYQ@...627...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTik=GpDVvfZUiMnp53j1HxX_HeRK=w07gAaVrojS@...627...>
	<1283800287.13008.3.camel@...2406...>
	<201009062214.36762.gambas@...1...>
	<1283814377.17134.8.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTim8oDoLjUz1VYPfd16eK8VxYhcKqwDX07WbWfYQ@...627...>
Message-ID: <1283870016.4407.5.camel@...2406...>

>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>Fecha: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:52:04 +0200


>ok have you an icon named : media-playback-start (.png or .svg) ?

Yes, is in /usr/share/icons/Humanity/actions/16/, Size 22 is not.

Attached image.

Regards.



>in /usr/share/icons/Human(or Humanity)/22/

>2010/9/7 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
> Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:14:36 +0200
>
>> >-----Mensaje original-----
>> >De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>> >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>> ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> >Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>> >Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:24:36 +0200
>> >
>> >well, try the last commit please for icons
>>
>> The problem is not Gambas 3, but the icons that come with the theme
>> Human-Clearlooks (Icons Humanity).
>>
>
>>I just tried with Ubuntu 10.04 64 bits, with the default icon theme then the
>>Humanity icon theme, and all IDE icons are perfectly visible.
>
> Perform a clean installation of Ubuntu 9.10 I installed Gambas3 (Rev
> 3188).
> The problem persists. even changing themes.
>
> Regards
>
> Cristian Abarz?a
>
>
>
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Sep  7 19:38:02 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:38:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
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so it need to work ... try the last revision please

2010/9/7 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>>-----Mensaje original-----
>>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>>Fecha: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:52:04 +0200
>
>
>>ok have you an icon named : media-playback-start (.png or .svg) ?
>
> Yes, is in /usr/share/icons/Humanity/actions/16/, Size 22 is not.
>
> Attached image.
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
>>in /usr/share/icons/Human(or Humanity)/22/
>
>>2010/9/7 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>> Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:14:36 +0200
>>
>>> >-----Mensaje original-----
>>> >De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>>> >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>>> ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> >Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>>> >Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:24:36 +0200
>>> >
>>> >well, try the last commit please for icons
>>>
>>> The problem is not Gambas 3, but the icons that come with the theme
>>> Human-Clearlooks (Icons Humanity).
>>>
>>
>>>I just tried with Ubuntu 10.04 64 bits, with the default icon theme then the
>>>Humanity icon theme, and all IDE icons are perfectly visible.
>>
>> Perform a clean installation of Ubuntu 9.10 I installed Gambas3 (Rev
>> 3188).
>> The problem persists. even changing themes.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Cristian Abarz?a
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From math.eber at ...221...  Tue Sep  7 20:59:49 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:59:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get the focus back?
Message-ID: <4C868BA5.2080900@...221...>

Gambas 3
Another beginner's question:

I have a little form where the user should make some input.
When there's something wrong, I give a message and want the user to correct the
input.
But after the message the focus goes "down" to FMain - I just can't find a way
to get it back to the input form.
The only way I see is to show the input form as "ShowModal" - but then it's
displayed centered relative to the desktop, which is ridiculous.

An example is attatched.
Anybody knows how to?
Thanks, Matti
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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Tue Sep  7 21:14:30 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 22:14:30 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get the focus back?
In-Reply-To: <4C868BA5.2080900@...221...>
References: <4C868BA5.2080900@...221...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikByeXT0UvrCYMukw3Y0PDFzwYY5yP9Mg_114U5@...627...>

I tested your code with Gambas 3 revision 3119 @ Ubuntu 10.04 64bit.
And I couldn't reproduce the problem.
FText.form doesn't lost focus after error message.
However TextBox1 on it does, but that is correct behaviour
(TextBox1.SetFocus is commented out).

Jussi


On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 21:59, Matti <math.eber at ...221...> wrote:

> Gambas 3
> Another beginner's question:
>
> I have a little form where the user should make some input.
> When there's something wrong, I give a message and want the user to correct
> the
> input.
> But after the message the focus goes "down" to FMain - I just can't find a
> way
> to get it back to the input form.
> The only way I see is to show the input form as "ShowModal" - but then it's
> displayed centered relative to the desktop, which is ridiculous.
>
> An example is attatched.
> Anybody knows how to?
> Thanks, Matti
>
>
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From math.eber at ...221...  Tue Sep  7 21:22:56 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:22:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get the focus back?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikByeXT0UvrCYMukw3Y0PDFzwYY5yP9Mg_114U5@...627...>
References: <4C868BA5.2080900@...221...>
	<AANLkTikByeXT0UvrCYMukw3Y0PDFzwYY5yP9Mg_114U5@...627...>
Message-ID: <4C869110.9040401@...221...>

Thanks, Jussi. (that was really fast!)

Here it's revision 3164 @ OpenSuse 11.2
And FText.form definitively loses focus after error message.
Strange.

Am 07.09.2010 21:14, schrieb Jussi Lahtinen:
> I tested your code with Gambas 3 revision 3119 @ Ubuntu 10.04 64bit.
> And I couldn't reproduce the problem.
> FText.form doesn't lost focus after error message.
> However TextBox1 on it does, but that is correct behaviour
> (TextBox1.SetFocus is commented out).
> 
> Jussi
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 21:59, Matti <math.eber at ...221...> wrote:
> 
>> Gambas 3
>> Another beginner's question:
>>
>> I have a little form where the user should make some input.
>> When there's something wrong, I give a message and want the user to correct
>> the
>> input.
>> But after the message the focus goes "down" to FMain - I just can't find a
>> way
>> to get it back to the input form.
>> The only way I see is to show the input form as "ShowModal" - but then it's
>> displayed centered relative to the desktop, which is ridiculous.
>>
>> An example is attatched.
>> Anybody knows how to?
>> Thanks, Matti
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep  7 23:18:14 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:18:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get the focus back?
In-Reply-To: <4C868BA5.2080900@...221...>
References: <4C868BA5.2080900@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009072318.14967.gambas@...1...>

> Gambas 3
> Another beginner's question:
> 
> I have a little form where the user should make some input.
> When there's something wrong, I give a message and want the user to correct
> the input.
> But after the message the focus goes "down" to FMain - I just can't find a
> way to get it back to the input form.
> The only way I see is to show the input form as "ShowModal" - but then it's
> displayed centered relative to the desktop, which is ridiculous.
> 
> An example is attatched.
> Anybody knows how to?
> Thanks, Matti

You set FText to be an "utility" window. If you use a normal window, the focus 
got back to FText normally, so I guess this is a chosen behaviour of Qt or 
KWin with utility windows. I will try to override it, but are you using an 
"utility" window there?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Tue Sep  7 23:48:03 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:48:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get the focus back?
In-Reply-To: <201009072318.14967.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C868BA5.2080900@...221...>
	<201009072318.14967.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C86B313.2010105@...221...>

Yes, "utility" seems to be the problem.
If I use a "normal" window with "SkipTaskbar", everything is ok.
This helps, thanks!
Matti

Am 07.09.2010 23:18, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> 
> You set FText to be an "utility" window. If you use a normal window, the focus 
> got back to FText normally, so I guess this is a chosen behaviour of Qt or 
> KWin with utility windows. I will try to override it, but are you using an 
> "utility" window there?
> 



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep  8 00:05:00 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 01:05:00 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinaWKmQx1d6Pr6QbVRCMjMFxV8osBeTtNMZ_ZWu@...627...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
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Strange icons, see attachment.
Gambas 3 revision 3196 @ Ubuntu 10.04.

Jussi


On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 20:38, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:

> so it need to work ... try the last revision please
>
> 2010/9/7 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
> >>-----Mensaje original-----
> >>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
> >>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> >><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
> >>Fecha: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:52:04 +0200
> >
> >
> >>ok have you an icon named : media-playback-start (.png or .svg) ?
> >
> > Yes, is in /usr/share/icons/Humanity/actions/16/, Size 22 is not.
> >
> > Attached image.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> >
> >>in /usr/share/icons/Human(or Humanity)/22/
> >
> >>2010/9/7 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
> >> -----Mensaje original-----
> >> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> >> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> >> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
> >> Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:14:36 +0200
> >>
> >>> >-----Mensaje original-----
> >>> >De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
> >>> >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> >>> ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >>> >Para: mailing list for gambas users <
> gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >>> >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
> >>> >Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:24:36 +0200
> >>> >
> >>> >well, try the last commit please for icons
> >>>
> >>> The problem is not Gambas 3, but the icons that come with the theme
> >>> Human-Clearlooks (Icons Humanity).
> >>>
> >>
> >>>I just tried with Ubuntu 10.04 64 bits, with the default icon theme then
> the
> >>>Humanity icon theme, and all IDE icons are perfectly visible.
> >>
> >> Perform a clean installation of Ubuntu 9.10 I installed Gambas3 (Rev
> >> 3188).
> >> The problem persists. even changing themes.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Cristian Abarz?a
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
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> >
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From soleilpqd at ...626...  Wed Sep  8 06:21:00 2010
From: soleilpqd at ...626... (=?UTF-8?B?UGjhuqFtIFF1YW5nIETGsMahbmc=?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:21:00 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem of FileChooser with menu shortcut keyboard
Message-ID: <AANLkTikv=UnD6dNO_1hhX5WynT+OCAggrc6_YBD_fAoS@...627...>

Bonjour Beno?t,

1. Last day I had a question about multi-choosing files and folders and your
answer is FileChooser. So I created a dialog form with a FileChooser control
and some other controls.I got a problem with the menu shortcut. I have the
menu File > Open (Ctrl + O) to open this dialog. When I use mouse to select
this menu, everything works fine. But when I press Ctrl + O, the dialog
appears but it showes only the FileChooser control. When I close the dialog,
it raises the error "Invalid object" in the mnuOpen_Click() sub.

2. I can enter alphabet characters into ValueBox and the event KeyPress of
TextBox doesn't response when these two controls is placed on a showed modal
form.

Are they Gambas bugs or where am I wrong or my Gambas is broken (I installed
from Fedora repository)?
Merci beaucoup!
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Sep  8 11:15:14 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:15:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimZd2paq+-VuEwW3HLsxFj1wvqchbD5=ZodZoBL@...627...>
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it's  a mixx between gnome and kde :)

2010/9/8 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>:
> Strange icons, see attachment.
> Gambas 3 revision 3196 @ Ubuntu 10.04.
>
> Jussi
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 20:38, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:
>
>> so it need to work ... try the last revision please
>>
>> 2010/9/7 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>> >>-----Mensaje original-----
>> >>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>> >>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>> >><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> >>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> >>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>> >>Fecha: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:52:04 +0200
>> >
>> >
>> >>ok have you an icon named : media-playback-start (.png or .svg) ?
>> >
>> > Yes, is in /usr/share/icons/Humanity/actions/16/, Size 22 is not.
>> >
>> > Attached image.
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>in /usr/share/icons/Human(or Humanity)/22/
>> >
>> >>2010/9/7 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>> >> -----Mensaje original-----
>> >> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>> >> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>> >> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> >> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at ...625...t>
>> >> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>> >> Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:14:36 +0200
>> >>
>> >>> >-----Mensaje original-----
>> >>> >De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>> >>> >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>> >>> ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> >>> >Para: mailing list for gambas users <
>> gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> >>> >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>> >>> >Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:24:36 +0200
>> >>> >
>> >>> >well, try the last commit please for icons
>> >>>
>> >>> The problem is not Gambas 3, but the icons that come with the theme
>> >>> Human-Clearlooks (Icons Humanity).
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>>I just tried with Ubuntu 10.04 64 bits, with the default icon theme then
>> the
>> >>>Humanity icon theme, and all IDE icons are perfectly visible.
>> >>
>> >> Perform a clean installation of Ubuntu 9.10 I installed Gambas3 (Rev
>> >> 3188).
>> >> The problem persists. even changing themes.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Cristian Abarz?a
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by:
>> >>
>> >> Show off your parallel programming skills.
>> >> Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010.
>> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd
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>> >> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
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>



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Fabien Bodard



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Sep  8 12:23:02 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:23:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin2s7QqF1tRfNa3cPwhE=kL2TJQGTj2S-UWh6xJ@...627...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
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	<1283800287.13008.3.camel@...2406...>
	<201009062214.36762.gambas@...1...>
	<1283814377.17134.8.camel@...2406...>
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please
cd /usr/share
ls -R -a icons > ~/out.txt

return me out.txt

2010/9/8 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> it's ?a mixx between gnome and kde :)
>
> 2010/9/8 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>:
>> Strange icons, see attachment.
>> Gambas 3 revision 3196 @ Ubuntu 10.04.
>>
>> Jussi
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 20:38, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:
>>
>>> so it need to work ... try the last revision please
>>>
>>> 2010/9/7 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>>> >>-----Mensaje original-----
>>> >>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>>> >>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>>> >><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> >>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at ...625...t>
>>> >>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>>> >>Fecha: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:52:04 +0200
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>ok have you an icon named : media-playback-start (.png or .svg) ?
>>> >
>>> > Yes, is in /usr/share/icons/Humanity/actions/16/, Size 22 is not.
>>> >
>>> > Attached image.
>>> >
>>> > Regards.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>in /usr/share/icons/Human(or Humanity)/22/
>>> >
>>> >>2010/9/7 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
>>> >> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> >> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>>> >> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>>> >> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> >> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at ...66...et>
>>> >> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>>> >> Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:14:36 +0200
>>> >>
>>> >>> >-----Mensaje original-----
>>> >>> >De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>>> >>> >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>>> >>> ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> >>> >Para: mailing list for gambas users <
>>> gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> >>> >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
>>> >>> >Fecha: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:24:36 +0200
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >well, try the last commit please for icons
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The problem is not Gambas 3, but the icons that come with the theme
>>> >>> Human-Clearlooks (Icons Humanity).
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>>I just tried with Ubuntu 10.04 64 bits, with the default icon theme then
>>> the
>>> >>>Humanity icon theme, and all IDE icons are perfectly visible.
>>> >>
>>> >> Perform a clean installation of Ubuntu 9.10 I installed Gambas3 (Rev
>>> >> 3188).
>>> >> The problem persists. even changing themes.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards
>>> >>
>>> >> Cristian Abarz?a
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by:
>>> >>
>>> >> Show off your parallel programming skills.
>>> >> Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010.
>>> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Gambas-user mailing list
>>> >> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by:
>>> >
>>> > Show off your parallel programming skills.
>>> > Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010.
>>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd
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>>> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Fabien Bodard
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Fabien Bodard
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  8 13:47:24 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:47:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimZd2paq+-VuEwW3HLsxFj1wvqchbD5=ZodZoBL@...627...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
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	<AANLkTimZd2paq+-VuEwW3HLsxFj1wvqchbD5=ZodZoBL@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009081347.24706.gambas@...1...>

> Strange icons, see attachment.
> Gambas 3 revision 3196 @ Ubuntu 10.04.
> 
> Jussi
> 

Can you run your program by setting the GB_STOCK_DEBUG environmental variable?

$ cd /path/to/my/project
$ GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 gbx3

Then send us all debugging messages that are printed on the output.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From admhardsoft at ...253...  Wed Sep  8 13:51:23 2010
From: admhardsoft at ...253... (admhardsoft at ...253...)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:51:23 +0000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Difference among gridview and tableview
Message-ID: <287421799-1283946661-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-515446839-@...2470...>

Hi
I would like to know wich is the difference among GRIDVIEW and TABLAVIEW?
Someone can explain me?
Thanks
Tomas
Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry




From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  8 14:00:10 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:00:10 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] dialog.select font & conf setting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=2M=TC6MMiNzmv9AUsFuRLArnAzw7_J1+tywbe@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=2M=TC6MMiNzmv9AUsFuRLArnAzw7_J1+tywbe@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009081400.10545.gambas@...1...>

> Hallo everyone,
> 
> i am new to gambas and trying some things out.
> I would like to give the user of my program the opportunity to choose a
> font.
> The default title of the dialog.selectFont must been changed
> The font that has been chosen must be written  to the conf-file
> 
> My code is as follows
> 
> PUBLIC SUB mnuFormatFont_Click()
>   ' set the title
>   ' let choose the font
>   ' apply the font
>   ' write chosen font to the conf file
>   Dialog.Title = " Kies een font "
>   Dialog.SelectFont
>   TextArea1.Font = Dialog.Font
>   Settings["Tekst/Lettertype"] = TextArea1.Font
> END
> 
> When running the program
> - the title is not changed

This is a bug I fixed in revision #3198.

> - the data are not written to the conf file

Mmm. Are you sure? The conf file is written when your program exists, or if 
you explicitely call Settings.Save().

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  8 14:00:58 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:00:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas class to read a joystick
In-Reply-To: <29639131.post@...1379...>
References: <200803021736.43761.sourceforge-raindog2@...94...>
	<29639131.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <201009081400.58891.gambas@...1...>

> Rob Kudla wrote:
> > Someone on linuxbasic.net asked for a way to read a joystick in
> > Gambas.  I couldn't find anything in the SDL component for that
> > purpose, so I wrote a minimal class that reads from the raw device,
> > parses the data into something useful, and throws events.  I wrote a
> > program to demonstrate it as well.
> 
> Referenced from:
> 
> http://old.nabble.com/Gambas-class-to-read-a-joystick-td15794466.html#a1579
> 7006
> 
> Hi Rob. Thanks for the awesome code. It was the only method I could find
> for reading a gamepad in GAMBAS. I've since integrated it into my own
> program and thought I'd list it here for folks who need to monitor
> asynchronous button presses along with stick input.
> 
> ...

You should put that on the wiki, that may interest some people.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  8 14:03:05 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:03:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Difference among gridview and tableview
In-Reply-To: <287421799-1283946661-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-515446839-@...2470...>
References: <287421799-1283946661-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-515446839-@...2470...>
Message-ID: <201009081403.05468.gambas@...1...>

> Hi
> I would like to know wich is the difference among GRIDVIEW and TABLAVIEW?
> Someone can explain me?
> Thanks
> Tomas
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> 

TableView is a GridView with editing features added.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  8 14:08:50 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:08:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem of FileChooser with menu shortcut keyboard
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikv=UnD6dNO_1hhX5WynT+OCAggrc6_YBD_fAoS@...627...>
References: <AANLkTikv=UnD6dNO_1hhX5WynT+OCAggrc6_YBD_fAoS@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009081408.50564.gambas@...1...>

> Bonjour Beno?t,
> 
> 1. Last day I had a question about multi-choosing files and folders and
> your answer is FileChooser. So I created a dialog form with a FileChooser
> control and some other controls.I got a problem with the menu shortcut. I
> have the menu File > Open (Ctrl + O) to open this dialog. When I use mouse
> to select this menu, everything works fine. But when I press Ctrl + O, the
> dialog appears but it showes only the FileChooser control. When I close
> the dialog, it raises the error "Invalid object" in the mnuOpen_Click()
> sub.
> 
> 2. I can enter alphabet characters into ValueBox and the event KeyPress of
> TextBox doesn't response when these two controls is placed on a showed
> modal form.
> 
> Are they Gambas bugs or where am I wrong or my Gambas is broken (I
> installed from Fedora repository)?
> Merci beaucoup!

I have none of the problems you are describing: which version of Gambas did 
you install?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep  8 14:36:14 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:36:14 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimib66P+jko_aaxkCFoq14FHYN3Hp4kQF_Bkgy7@...627...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
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	<AANLkTimZd2paq+-VuEwW3HLsxFj1wvqchbD5=ZodZoBL@...627...>
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Out.txt rejected as too big, so new try...

Jussi


On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 15:31, Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>wrote:

> Here:
>
> warning: unable to load Qt translation: en_GB.utf8
> Stock.AddPath.80: gnome:/usr/share/icons/Human/&2x&2!&1
> Stock.AddPath.80: gnome:/usr/share/icons/Tangerine/&2x&2!&1
> Stock.AddPath.80: gnome:/usr/share/icons/gnome/&2x&2!&1
> Stock.AddPath.80: gnome:/usr/share/icons/oxygen/&2x&2!&1
> Stock.AddPath.80: gnome:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/&2x&2!&1
> Stock.AddPath.80: stock/&1!&2
> QFSFileEngine::open: No file name specified
>
>
> Fabien out.txt is also attached.
>
>
> Jussi
>
>
>
> 2010/9/8 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>
> > Strange icons, see attachment.
>> > Gambas 3 revision 3196 @ Ubuntu 10.04.
>> >
>> > Jussi
>> >
>>
>> Can you run your program by setting the GB_STOCK_DEBUG environmental
>> variable?
>>
>> $ cd /path/to/my/project
>> $ GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 gbx3
>>
>> Then send us all debugging messages that are printed on the output.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
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From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep  8 15:07:36 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:07:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=-qA137Ln5pgZcR0_JrL8HNxKM2HJhwCKANxC9@...627...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
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Message-ID: <201009081507.36385.gambas@...1...>

> Out.txt rejected as too big, so new try...
> 
> Jussi
> 

Thanks.

Is it better with the very last revision?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From soleilpqd at ...626...  Wed Sep  8 15:22:28 2010
From: soleilpqd at ...626... (=?UTF-8?B?UGjhuqFtIFF1YW5nIETGsMahbmc=?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:22:28 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problem of FileChooser with menu shortcut keyboard
In-Reply-To: <201009081408.50564.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTikv=UnD6dNO_1hhX5WynT+OCAggrc6_YBD_fAoS@...627...>
	<201009081408.50564.gambas@...1...>
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Gambas2 was installed from Fedora 13 repository; full version is
gambas2-2.20.2-1.fc13
Here is screen shots:
My open dialog with menu
click<http://www.flickr.com/photos/44069250 at ...2475.../4971059900/>
My open dialog with menu shortcut
keyboard<http://www.flickr.com/photos/44069250 at ...2475.../4971059702/in/photostream/>


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep  8 15:52:07 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:52:07 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bugs - Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <201009081507.36385.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283784954.8050.21.camel@...2406...>
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No change...

Jussi


2010/9/8 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>

> > Out.txt rejected as too big, so new try...
> >
> > Jussi
> >
>
> Thanks.
>
> Is it better with the very last revision?
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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From prog at ...2177...  Wed Sep  8 16:56:44 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:56:44 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] TabStrip Control
Message-ID: <1283957804.5277.7.camel@...2406...>

I'm trying Gambas3 and would like to make a query:

In GTK+, the control GTK_NOTEBOOK, displays the text of the tabs
horizontally, the orientation set to the left or right. (See image
adjunt).

It is thus possible to configure Gambas3?

Regards.

Cristian Abarz?a F


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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep  8 18:42:25 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:42:25 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 libraries
Message-ID: <AANLkTinqsVv_rBMQGe7MFmFGkL63wA_UwuKp+tD8b+rN@...627...>

Hi!
Is it possible to run libraries in different thread so that they would raise
only events,
without making delays in normal code execution?

Jussi


From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Sep  8 19:45:34 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:45:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get the focus back?
In-Reply-To: <201009072318.14967.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C868BA5.2080900@...221...>
	<201009072318.14967.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C87CBBE.6010503@...221...>

confirm: utility window now gets focus back (rev. 3199).
Fine! :-)

Am 07.09.2010 23:18, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> Gambas 3

> You set FText to be an "utility" window. If you use a normal window, the focus 
> got back to FText normally, so I guess this is a chosen behaviour of Qt or 
> KWin with utility windows. I will try to override it, but are you using an 
> "utility" window there?
> 



From prog at ...2177...  Wed Sep  8 19:51:54 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:51:54 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
Message-ID: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>

OS: Ubuntu 9.10 - 32bits
Gnome : 2.28
Monitor : res. 1360x768

[GB.FORM]

*BUG: The icons in the Console tab, not shown completely.
           See.Image.png

Regards.

Cristian Abarz?a F.

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From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Sep  8 21:00:29 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:00:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to get the focus back?
In-Reply-To: <201009072318.14967.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C868BA5.2080900@...221...>	<201009072318.14967.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C87DD4D.9080804@...221...>

Correction: sometimes the focus on the utility window is given back, sometimes
not. Mostly not.
It works in my little example, but when there is more around, it gets somehow
unpredictable. Don't see a pattern.
So, it's better to avoid utility windows in these cases.
Matti


Am 07.09.2010 23:18, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> Gambas 3

> You set FText to be an "utility" window. If you use a normal window, the focus 
> got back to FText normally, so I guess this is a chosen behaviour of Qt or 
> KWin with utility windows. I will try to override it, but are you using an 
> "utility" window there?



From prog at ...2177...  Wed Sep  8 21:35:45 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:35:45 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
Message-ID: <1283974545.2921.1.camel@...2406...>

Hi.

There is the possibility to compile the executable gbx2 with option
-static.

Regards.

Cristian Abarz?a F




From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Sep  8 21:59:16 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:59:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Console in Gambas3
Message-ID: <4C87EB14.7080002@...221...>

Wouldn't it be a good idea to show the console by default?
1. I had some difficulties to find out how it could be shown
2. I was surprised about the messages in it...
Regards
Matti



From sotema at ...626...  Wed Sep  8 22:31:55 2010
From: sotema at ...626... (Emanuele Sottocorno)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:31:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 and postgresql indexes
Message-ID: <1283977915.4032.22.camel@...2476...>

Hi to all 
creating  a table onto a postgresql db fails when adding the index, this
is my code:

Public Function CreaDbUtenti() As Boolean
Dim hConn As New Connection
Dim hTable As Table
  With hConn
    .Host = "localhost"
    .Type = "postgresql"
    .Port = "6532"
    .Login = "postgres"
    .Password = "<postgrespwd>"
    .Open()
  End With
  If (Not hConn.Databases.Exist("gbputenti")) Then
    hConn.Databases.Add("gbputenti")
    hConn.Close()
    hConn.Name = "gbputenti"
    hConn.Open()
    hTable = hConn.Tables.Add("utenti")
    With hTable
      .Fields.Add("id", db.Serial)
      .Fields.Add("unome", db.String, 30)
      .Fields.Add("ucognome", db.String, 30)
      .Fields.Add("ulogin", db.String, 30)
      .Fields.Add("upassword", db.String, 50)
      .Fields.Add("ureparto", db.String, 30)
      .Fields.Add("uaziende", db.String, 100)
      .Fields.Add("utipo", db.Integer, 1, 1) 
      .Fields.Add("ulastmodify", db.Date)
      .PrimaryKey = ["id"]
      .Update()
      .Indexes.Add("login", ["ulogin"], True)
    End With
    gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(("Creato DB Utenti."))
    Else
      gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(("Il DB utenti esiste."))
  Endif
  hConn.Close()
  Return True
  
  Catch
    gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(Subst$(("Errore durante la creazione del DB
utenti: &1"), Error.Text))
    Return False
End

The server logs:
ERROR	column "utenti" does not exist
STATEMENT	CREATE UNIQUE INDEX "login" ON "utenti" ( "utenti" )

The same function works fine with mysql.

gambas3 rev. 3195
SO Ubuntu 10.04
Psql ver. 8.4.4-0 installed from binaries

Any help will be appreciated,
Emanuele




From admhardsoft at ...253...  Wed Sep  8 23:38:26 2010
From: admhardsoft at ...253... (Tomas Rodriguez)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:38:26 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] data book archive .dba from gambas y palms
Message-ID: <850C71E3050C450C9D425A90AE0EE75E@...2404...>

Hi eeryone
I need to developer an application for my Palm Zire21 PDA using gambas with 
data book (d.ba) as data base , but I don't know if is possible to do that.
this application is the same like one application for windows.
someone can help me if is possible to developer an appliaction for palm and 
install it in the Palm Zire21 PDA

thanks
tomas 





From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep  9 00:27:18 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:27:18 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] data book archive .dba from gambas y palms
In-Reply-To: <850C71E3050C450C9D425A90AE0EE75E@...2404...>
References: <850C71E3050C450C9D425A90AE0EE75E@...2404...>
Message-ID: <1283984838.3260.2.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Tomas Rodriguez <admhardsoft at ...253...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Asunto: [Gambas-user] data book archive .dba from gambas y palms
Fecha: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:38:26 -0400

>Hi eeryone
>I need to developer an application for my Palm Zire21 PDA using gambas with 
>data book (d.ba) as data base , but I don't know if is possible to do that.
>this application is the same like one application for windows.
>someone can help me if is possible to developer an appliaction for palm and 
>install it in the Palm Zire21 PDA


>thanks
>tomas 

Gambas only creates executables for Linux computers.

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua



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From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep  9 00:48:19 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:48:19 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] data book archive .dba from gambas y palms
In-Reply-To: <1283984838.3260.2.camel@...2406...>
References: <850C71E3050C450C9D425A90AE0EE75E@...2404...>
	<1283984838.3260.2.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <1283986099.3260.9.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: craf <prog at ...2177...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] data book archive .dba from gambas y palms
Fecha: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:27:18 -0400

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Tomas Rodriguez <admhardsoft at ...253...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Asunto: [Gambas-user] data book archive .dba from gambas y palms
Fecha: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:38:26 -0400

>Hi eeryone
>I need to developer an application for my Palm Zire21 PDA using gambas with 
>data book (d.ba) as data base , but I don't know if is possible to do that.
>this application is the same like one application for windows.
>someone can help me if is possible to developer an appliaction for palm and 
>install it in the Palm Zire21 PDA


>thanks
>tomas 

>Gambas only creates executables for Linux computers.

>Regards.

>Cristian Abarzua

Palm was bought by Access. From here you can download the kit to program in Linux

http://www.accessdevnet.com/index.php/ACCESS-Tools/View-category.html

Here is a page where they create a small application.This in Spanish

http://molavec.blogspot.com/2009/07/programacion-en-palm-os.html

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua F




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From admhardsoft at ...253...  Thu Sep  9 00:54:52 2010
From: admhardsoft at ...253... (Tomas Rodriguez)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:54:52 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] data book archive .dba from gambas y palms
In-Reply-To: <1283986099.3260.9.camel@...2406...>
References: <850C71E3050C450C9D425A90AE0EE75E@...2404...><1283984838.3260.2.camel@...2406...>
	<1283986099.3260.9.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <7D74A6B30BAC49ADBB5CA86C4A5AF3F2@...2404...>

thanks very good totorial.
tomas

--------------------------------------------------
From: "craf" <prog at ...2177...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 6:48 PM
To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] data book archive .dba from gambas y palms

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: craf <prog at ...2177...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] data book archive .dba from gambas y palms
> Fecha: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:27:18 -0400
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Tomas Rodriguez <admhardsoft at ...253...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Asunto: [Gambas-user] data book archive .dba from gambas y palms
> Fecha: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:38:26 -0400
>
>>Hi eeryone
>>I need to developer an application for my Palm Zire21 PDA using gambas 
>>with
>>data book (d.ba) as data base , but I don't know if is possible to do 
>>that.
>>this application is the same like one application for windows.
>>someone can help me if is possible to developer an appliaction for palm 
>>and
>>install it in the Palm Zire21 PDA
>
>
>>thanks
>>tomas
>
>>Gambas only creates executables for Linux computers.
>
>>Regards.
>
>>Cristian Abarzua
>
> Palm was bought by Access. From here you can download the kit to program 
> in Linux
>
> http://www.accessdevnet.com/index.php/ACCESS-Tools/View-category.html
>
> Here is a page where they create a small application.This in Spanish
>
> http://molavec.blogspot.com/2009/07/programacion-en-palm-os.html
>
> Regards.
>
> Cristian Abarzua F
>
>
>
>
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From supersmashogre at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 02:47:05 2010
From: supersmashogre at ...626... (John Terry)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:47:05 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug in gtk menu
Message-ID: <AANLkTimNDwZ5-u-EnZJd5kGfDm+dD_HgZ554_4V8Kfsw@...627...>

If you create a menu item with a string for a tag, the tag is not freed when
the form is closed. This only happens with the gtk component.
I've attached a small project that demonstrates the bug and a workaround.
Read the comments.

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From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep  9 03:04:28 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:04:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TabStrip Control
In-Reply-To: <1283957804.5277.7.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283957804.5277.7.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009090304.28563.gambas@...1...>

> I'm trying Gambas3 and would like to make a query:
> 
> In GTK+, the control GTK_NOTEBOOK, displays the text of the tabs
> horizontally, the orientation set to the left or right. (See image
> adjunt).
> 
> It is thus possible to configure Gambas3?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarz?a F

Yes: use the TabStrip.Orientation property.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep  9 03:10:27 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:10:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 and postgresql indexes
In-Reply-To: <1283977915.4032.22.camel@...2476...>
References: <1283977915.4032.22.camel@...2476...>
Message-ID: <201009090310.27912.gambas@...1...>

> Hi to all
> creating  a table onto a postgresql db fails when adding the index, this
> is my code:
> 
> Public Function CreaDbUtenti() As Boolean
> Dim hConn As New Connection
> Dim hTable As Table
>   With hConn
>     .Host = "localhost"
>     .Type = "postgresql"
>     .Port = "6532"
>     .Login = "postgres"
>     .Password = "<postgrespwd>"
>     .Open()
>   End With
>   If (Not hConn.Databases.Exist("gbputenti")) Then
>     hConn.Databases.Add("gbputenti")
>     hConn.Close()
>     hConn.Name = "gbputenti"
>     hConn.Open()
>     hTable = hConn.Tables.Add("utenti")
>     With hTable
>       .Fields.Add("id", db.Serial)
>       .Fields.Add("unome", db.String, 30)
>       .Fields.Add("ucognome", db.String, 30)
>       .Fields.Add("ulogin", db.String, 30)
>       .Fields.Add("upassword", db.String, 50)
>       .Fields.Add("ureparto", db.String, 30)
>       .Fields.Add("uaziende", db.String, 100)
>       .Fields.Add("utipo", db.Integer, 1, 1)
>       .Fields.Add("ulastmodify", db.Date)
>       .PrimaryKey = ["id"]
>       .Update()
>       .Indexes.Add("login", ["ulogin"], True)
>     End With
>     gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(("Creato DB Utenti."))
>     Else
>       gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(("Il DB utenti esiste."))
>   Endif
>   hConn.Close()
>   Return True
> 
>   Catch
>     gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(Subst$(("Errore durante la creazione del DB
> utenti: &1"), Error.Text))
>     Return False
> End
> 
> The server logs:
> ERROR	column "utenti" does not exist
> STATEMENT	CREATE UNIQUE INDEX "login" ON "utenti" ( "utenti" )
> 
> The same function works fine with mysql.
> 
> gambas3 rev. 3195
> SO Ubuntu 10.04
> Psql ver. 8.4.4-0 installed from binaries
> 
> Any help will be appreciated,
> Emanuele
> 

Please can you run the same code by setting DB.Debug = True before, and send 
the debugging messages?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep  9 03:26:50 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:26:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009090326.50714.gambas@...1...>

> OS: Ubuntu 9.10 - 32bits
> Gnome : 2.28
> Monitor : res. 1360x768
> 
> [GB.FORM]
> 
> *BUG: The icons in the Console tab, not shown completely.
>            See.Image.png
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarz?a F.

Can you run the IDE with GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 and send the output messages?

$ cd /path/to/ide/source
$ GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 gbx3
...

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep  9 03:28:00 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:28:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug in gtk menu
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimNDwZ5-u-EnZJd5kGfDm+dD_HgZ554_4V8Kfsw@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimNDwZ5-u-EnZJd5kGfDm+dD_HgZ554_4V8Kfsw@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009090328.00554.gambas@...1...>

> If you create a menu item with a string for a tag, the tag is not freed
> when the form is closed. This only happens with the gtk component.
> I've attached a small project that demonstrates the bug and a workaround.
> Read the comments.

Oops, a bug fix not backported from Gambas 3.

Is it better with revision #3200?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep  9 03:27:58 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:27:58 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] TabStrip Control
In-Reply-To: <201009090304.28563.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283957804.5277.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009090304.28563.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1283995678.6130.0.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] TabStrip Control
Fecha: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:04:28 +0200

> I'm trying Gambas3 and would like to make a query:
> 
> In GTK+, the control GTK_NOTEBOOK, displays the text of the tabs
> horizontally, the orientation set to the left or right. (See image
> adjunt).
> 
> It is thus possible to configure Gambas3?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarz?a F

>Yes: use the TabStrip.Orientation property.

>Regards,

Fantastic, thank.

Regards.





From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep  9 03:30:26 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:30:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 libraries
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinqsVv_rBMQGe7MFmFGkL63wA_UwuKp+tD8b+rN@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinqsVv_rBMQGe7MFmFGkL63wA_UwuKp+tD8b+rN@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009090330.26235.gambas@...1...>

> Hi!
> Is it possible to run libraries in different thread so that they would
> raise only events,
> without making delays in normal code execution?
> 
> Jussi

The gambas interpreter is single-threaded, so no.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From sotema at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 09:04:15 2010
From: sotema at ...626... (emanuele sottocorno)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:04:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 and postgresql indexes
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=GFc-6CBTDgU8xkaHZvCrm+Jne+qr8+_c0cozF@...627...>

> ---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
> From:?"Beno?t Minisini" <gambas at ...1...>
> To:?mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Date:?Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:10:27 +0200
> Subject:?Re: [Gambas-user] gb3 and postgresql indexes
>> Hi to all
>> creating ?a table onto a postgresql db fails when adding the index, this
>> is my code:
>>
>> Public Function CreaDbUtenti() As Boolean
>> Dim hConn As New Connection
>> Dim hTable As Table
>> ? With hConn
>> ? ? .Host = "localhost"
>> ? ? .Type = "postgresql"
>> ? ? .Port = "6532"
>> ? ? .Login = "postgres"
>> ? ? .Password = "<postgrespwd>"
>> ? ? .Open()
>> ? End With
>> ? If (Not hConn.Databases.Exist("gbputenti")) Then
>> ? ? hConn.Databases.Add("gbputenti")
>> ? ? hConn.Close()
>> ? ? hConn.Name = "gbputenti"
>> ? ? hConn.Open()
>> ? ? hTable = hConn.Tables.Add("utenti")
>> ? ? With hTable
>> ? ? ? .Fields.Add("id", db.Serial)
>> ? ? ? .Fields.Add("unome", db.String, 30)
>> ? ? ? .Fields.Add("ucognome", db.String, 30)
>> ? ? ? .Fields.Add("ulogin", db.String, 30)
>> ? ? ? .Fields.Add("upassword", db.String, 50)
>> ? ? ? .Fields.Add("ureparto", db.String, 30)
>> ? ? ? .Fields.Add("uaziende", db.String, 100)
>> ? ? ? .Fields.Add("utipo", db.Integer, 1, 1)
>> ? ? ? .Fields.Add("ulastmodify", db.Date)
>> ? ? ? .PrimaryKey = ["id"]
>> ? ? ? .Update()
>> ? ? ? .Indexes.Add("login", ["ulogin"], True)
>> ? ? End With
>> ? ? gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(("Creato DB Utenti."))
>> ? ? Else
>> ? ? ? gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(("Il DB utenti esiste."))
>> ? Endif
>> ? hConn.Close()
>> ? Return True
>>
>> ? Catch
>> ? ? gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(Subst$(("Errore durante la creazione del DB
>> utenti: &1"), Error.Text))
>> ? ? Return False
>> End
>>
>> The server logs:
>> ERROR column "utenti" does not exist
>> STATEMENT ? ? CREATE UNIQUE INDEX "login" ON "utenti" ( "utenti" )
>>
>> The same function works fine with mysql.
>>
>> gambas3 rev. 3195
>> SO Ubuntu 10.04
>> Psql ver. 8.4.4-0 installed from binaries
>>
>> Any help will be appreciated,
>> Emanuele
>>
>
> Please can you run the same code by setting DB.Debug = True before, and send
> the debugging messages?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
Thanks Beno?t,
pls teach me how can I do it...

Emanuele



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep  9 09:40:29 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:40:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 and postgresql indexes
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=GFc-6CBTDgU8xkaHZvCrm+Jne+qr8+_c0cozF@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=GFc-6CBTDgU8xkaHZvCrm+Jne+qr8+_c0cozF@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009090940.29230.gambas@...1...>

> > ---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
> > From: "Beno?t Minisini" <gambas at ...1...>
> > To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:10:27 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] gb3 and postgresql indexes
> > 
> >> Hi to all
> >> creating  a table onto a postgresql db fails when adding the index, this
> >> is my code:
> >> 
> >> Public Function CreaDbUtenti() As Boolean
> >> Dim hConn As New Connection
> >> Dim hTable As Table
> >>   With hConn
> >>     .Host = "localhost"
> >>     .Type = "postgresql"
> >>     .Port = "6532"
> >>     .Login = "postgres"
> >>     .Password = "<postgrespwd>"
> >>     .Open()
> >>   End With
> >>   If (Not hConn.Databases.Exist("gbputenti")) Then
> >>     hConn.Databases.Add("gbputenti")
> >>     hConn.Close()
> >>     hConn.Name = "gbputenti"
> >>     hConn.Open()
> >>     hTable = hConn.Tables.Add("utenti")
> >>     With hTable
> >>       .Fields.Add("id", db.Serial)
> >>       .Fields.Add("unome", db.String, 30)
> >>       .Fields.Add("ucognome", db.String, 30)
> >>       .Fields.Add("ulogin", db.String, 30)
> >>       .Fields.Add("upassword", db.String, 50)
> >>       .Fields.Add("ureparto", db.String, 30)
> >>       .Fields.Add("uaziende", db.String, 100)
> >>       .Fields.Add("utipo", db.Integer, 1, 1)
> >>       .Fields.Add("ulastmodify", db.Date)
> >>       .PrimaryKey = ["id"]
> >>       .Update()
> >>       .Indexes.Add("login", ["ulogin"], True)
> >>     End With
> >>     gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(("Creato DB Utenti."))
> >>     Else
> >>       gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(("Il DB utenti esiste."))
> >>   Endif
> >>   hConn.Close()
> >>   Return True
> >> 
> >>   Catch
> >>     gbPneus.gbpLog.logWrite(Subst$(("Errore durante la creazione del DB
> >> utenti: &1"), Error.Text))
> >>     Return False
> >> End
> >> 
> >> The server logs:
> >> ERROR column "utenti" does not exist
> >> STATEMENT     CREATE UNIQUE INDEX "login" ON "utenti" ( "utenti" )
> >> 
> >> The same function works fine with mysql.
> >> 
> >> gambas3 rev. 3195
> >> SO Ubuntu 10.04
> >> Psql ver. 8.4.4-0 installed from binaries
> >> 
> >> Any help will be appreciated,
> >> Emanuele
> > 
> > Please can you run the same code by setting DB.Debug = True before, and
> > send the debugging messages?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > --
> > Beno?t Minisini
> 
> Thanks Beno?t,
> pls teach me how can I do it...
> 
> Emanuele
> 

Put "DB.Debug = TRUE" before your code and run it again.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From sotema at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 13:48:02 2010
From: sotema at ...626... (emanuele sottocorno)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:48:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 and postgresql indexes
Message-ID: <AANLkTik4KAjtQpu8oWTTmaoZSK16ibRBxKdfYfdTYonO@...627...>

Here the console output during function execution.

NOTICE:  table "sezioni" does not exist, skipping
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE will create implicit sequence
"sezioni_idsezione_seq" for serial column "sezioni.idsezione"
NOTICE:  ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index
"sezioni_pk" for table "sezioni"
NOTICE:  table "misure" does not exist, skipping
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE will create implicit sequence
"misure_idmisura_seq" for serial column "misure.idmisura"
NOTICE:  ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index
"misure_pk" for table "misure"
NOTICE:  table "cerchio" does not exist, skipping
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE will create implicit sequence
"cerchio_idcerchio_seq" for serial column "cerchio.idcerchio"
NOTICE:  ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index
"cerchio_pk" for table "cerchio"
NOTICE:  table "clienti" does not exist, skipping
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE will create implicit sequence
"clienti_idcliente_seq" for serial column "clienti.idcliente"
NOTICE:  ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index
"clienti_pk" for table "clienti"
NOTICE:  table "comuni" does not exist, skipping
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE will create implicit sequence
"comuni_idcomune_seq" for serial column "comuni.idcomune"
NOTICE:  ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index
"comuni_pk" for table "comuni"
NOTICE:  table "provincie" does not exist, skipping
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE will create implicit sequence
"provincie_idprovincia_seq" for serial column "provincie.idprovincia"
NOTICE:  ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index
"provincie_pk" for table "provincie"
NOTICE:  table "cap" does not exist, skipping
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE will create implicit sequence "cap_idcap_seq"
for serial column "cap.idcap"
NOTICE:  ALTER TABLE / ADD PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index
"cap_pk" for table "cap"
postgresql: 0x8ca8260: select substring(version(),12,5)
postgresql: 0x8ca8260: show client_encoding
postgresql: 0x8ca8260: select datname from pg_database where
(datallowconn = 't') and (datname = 'gbputenti')
postgresql: 0x8ca8260: select datname from pg_database where
(datallowconn = 't') and (datname = 'gbputenti')
postgresql: 0x8ca8260: create database "gbputenti"
postgresql: 0x8ca8260: select substring(version(),12,5)
postgresql: 0x8ca8260: show client_encoding
postgresql: 0x8ca8260: select relname from pg_class where (relkind =
'r' or relkind = 'v') and (relname = 'utenti') and (relnamespace in
(select oid from pg_namespace where nspname = 'public'))
postgresql: 0x8ca8260: CREATE TABLE "utenti" ( "id" BIGSERIAL ,
"unome" VARCHAR(30), "ucognome" VARCHAR(30), "ulogin" VARCHAR(30),
"upassword" VARCHAR(50), "ureparto" VARCHAR(30), "uaziende"
VARCHAR(100), "utipo" INT NOT NULL DEFAULT 1, "ulastmodify" TIMES
TAMP, PRIMARY KEY (id) )
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE will create implicit sequence "utenti_id_seq"
for serial column "utenti.id"
NOTICE:  CREATE TABLE / PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index
"utenti_pkey" for table "utenti"
-----
postgresql: 0x8ca8260: select pg_class.relname from pg_class,
pg_index, pg_class pg_class2 where pg_class2.relname = 'utenti' and
(pg_class2.relnamespace in (select oid from pg_namespace where nspname
= 'public')) and pg_index.indrelid = pg_class2.oid and
pg_index.indexrelid = pg_class.oid and pg_class.relname = 'login'
postgresql: 0x8ca8260: CREATE UNIQUE INDEX "login" ON "utenti" ( "utenti" )
----
what follow is the "remove structure due an error occured."

postgresql: 0x8c905a8: select substring(version(),12,5)
postgresql: 0x8c905a8: show client_encoding
postgresql: 0x8c905a8: select datname from pg_database where
(datallowconn = 't') and (datname = 'gbp_sotema')
postgresql: 0x8c905a8: drop database "gbp_sotema"
postgresql: 0x8c905a8: select datname from pg_database where
(datallowconn = 't') and (datname = 'gbputenti')
postgresql: 0x8c905a8: drop database "gbputenti"

I tried also a postgresql server on WinXP with the same error.

Regards,
Emanuele



From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep  9 17:20:15 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:20:15 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <201009090326.50714.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009090326.50714.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1284045615.5605.3.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
Fecha: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:26:50 +0200

> OS: Ubuntu 9.10 - 32bits
> Gnome : 2.28
> Monitor : res. 1360x768
> 
> [GB.FORM]
> 
> *BUG: The icons in the Console tab, not shown completely.
>            See.Image.png
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarz?a F.

>Can you run the IDE with GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 and send the output messages?

>$ cd /path/to/ide/source
>$ GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 gbx3
>...

>Regards,

Sorry, where?

I try in /usr/local/bin/GB_STOCK_DEBUG gbx3 and doesn't work.

/usr/local/bin/GB_STOCK_DEBUG gambas3.gambas work's,but doesn't create a
text file

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua F.




From lord.quo at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 17:30:43 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Daniel Rojas)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:30:43 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling gambas 3
Message-ID: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>

   Hi all, I'm tryinh to compile gamba3, revision 3203. I do this:

$ mkdir gambas3
$ cd gambas3
$ mkdir trunk
$ svn checkout
https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/gambas/trunk/
.
.
.
Revisi?n obtenida: 3203

$ cd trunk
$ ./reconf-all
$ ./configure
$ make

    And then I have this error:

make[5]: se ingresa al directorio
`/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
/bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..
-D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
-I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb
-I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/librsvg-2   -I../share   -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions
-Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
-fno-omit-frame-pointer  -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
.deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c -o gdrawingarea.lo gdrawingarea.cpp
libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT
-I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
-I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/pixman-1
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb -I/usr/include/libpng12
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/librsvg-2
-I../share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char
-fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD
-MP -MF .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c gdrawingarea.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
.libs/gdrawingarea.o
gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?bool gDrawingArea::canFocus() const?:
gdrawingarea.cpp:112: error: ?gtk_widget_get_can_focus? no se declar? en
este ?mbito
gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?void gDrawingArea::setCanFocus(bool)?:
gdrawingarea.cpp:117: error: ?gtk_widget_set_can_focus? no se declar? en
este ?mbito
make[5]: *** [gdrawingarea.lo] Error 1
make[5]: se sale del directorio
`/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: se sale del directorio
`/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: se sale del directorio
`/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: se sale del directorio
`/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: se sale del directorio
`/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk'
make: *** [all] Error 2

   What can I fix it?

   Thanks for all.

Daniel Quintero desde la Ciudad de M?xico


From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep  9 17:34:03 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:34:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <1284045615.5605.3.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009090326.50714.gambas@...1...>
	<1284045615.5605.3.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009091734.03486.gambas@...1...>

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
> Fecha: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:26:50 +0200
> 
> > OS: Ubuntu 9.10 - 32bits
> > Gnome : 2.28
> > Monitor : res. 1360x768
> > 
> > [GB.FORM]
> > 
> > *BUG: The icons in the Console tab, not shown completely.
> > 
> >            See.Image.png
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > Cristian Abarz?a F.
> >
> >Can you run the IDE with GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 and send the output messages?
> >
> >$ cd /path/to/ide/source
> >$ GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 gbx3
> >...
> >
> >Regards,
> 
> Sorry, where?
> 
> I try in /usr/local/bin/GB_STOCK_DEBUG gbx3 and doesn't work.
> 
> /usr/local/bin/GB_STOCK_DEBUG gambas3.gambas work's,but doesn't create a
> text file
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F.
> 

I don't understand anything: you say in the subject of your mail that you are 
talking about the last revision of Gambas 3, and then in your mail you say 
that you are using Gambas 2.28, whereas Gambas 2.28 does not exist (the last 
version of Gambas 2 is 2.21).

So please check that you give accurate informations!

What I gave you in the previous mail is a list of shell command to enter in a 
terminal window. But they are useless if you don't use Gambas 3.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From Karl.Reinl at ...2345...  Thu Sep  9 17:48:47 2010
From: Karl.Reinl at ...2345... (Charlie Reinl)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:48:47 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <201009091734.03486.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009090326.50714.gambas@...1...>
	<1284045615.5605.3.camel@...2406...>
	<201009091734.03486.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1284047327.6476.1.camel@...40...>

Am Donnerstag, den 09.09.2010, 17:34 +0200 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> > Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> > <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
> > Fecha: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:26:50 +0200
> > 
> > > OS: Ubuntu 9.10 - 32bits
> > > Gnome : 2.28
> > > Monitor : res. 1360x768
> > > 
> > > [GB.FORM]
> > > 
> > > *BUG: The icons in the Console tab, not shown completely.
> > > 
> > >            See.Image.png
> > > 
> > > Regards.
> > > 
> > > Cristian Abarz?a F.
> > >
> > >Can you run the IDE with GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 and send the output messages?
> > >
> > >$ cd /path/to/ide/source
> > >$ GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 gbx3
> > >...
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > 
> > Sorry, where?
> > 
> > I try in /usr/local/bin/GB_STOCK_DEBUG gbx3 and doesn't work.
> > 
> > /usr/local/bin/GB_STOCK_DEBUG gambas3.gambas work's,but doesn't create a
> > text file
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > Cristian Abarzua F.
> > 
> 
> I don't understand anything: you say in the subject of your mail that you are 
> talking about the last revision of Gambas 3, and then in your mail you say 
> that you are using Gambas 2.28, whereas Gambas 2.28 does not exist (the last 
> version of Gambas 2 is 2.21).
> 
> So please check that you give accurate informations!
> 
> What I gave you in the previous mail is a list of shell command to enter in a 
> terminal window. But they are useless if you don't use Gambas 3.
> 
> Regards,
> 
he use 
Gnome : 2.28 !!!!!!!!!!!


-- 
Amicalement
Charlie




From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep  9 18:26:34 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:26:34 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <201009091734.03486.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009090326.50714.gambas@...1...>
	<1284045615.5605.3.camel@...2406...>
	<201009091734.03486.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1284049594.6128.0.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
Fecha: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:34:03 +0200

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
> Fecha: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:26:50 +0200
> 
> > OS: Ubuntu 9.10 - 32bits
> > Gnome : 2.28
> > Monitor : res. 1360x768
> > 
> > [GB.FORM]
> > 
> > *BUG: The icons in the Console tab, not shown completely.
> > 
> >            See.Image.png
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > Cristian Abarz?a F.
> >
> >Can you run the IDE with GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 and send the output messages?
> >
> >$ cd /path/to/ide/source
> >$ GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 gbx3
> >...
> >
> >Regards,
> 
> Sorry, where?
> 
> I try in /usr/local/bin/GB_STOCK_DEBUG gbx3 and doesn't work.
> 
> /usr/local/bin/GB_STOCK_DEBUG gambas3.gambas work's,but doesn't create a
> text file
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F.
> 

>I don't understand anything: you say in the subject of your mail that you are 
>talking about the last revision of Gambas 3, and then in your mail you say 
>that you are using Gambas 2.28, whereas Gambas 2.28 does not exist (the last 
>version of Gambas 2 is 2.21).

>So please check that you give accurate informations!

>What I gave you in the previous mail is a list of shell command to enter in a 
>terminal window. But they are useless if you don't use Gambas 3.

>Regards,

If you say I placed Gambas 2.28, so be it ;=)

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua F.





From gambas.fr at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 19:02:34 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:02:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <1284049594.6128.0.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009090326.50714.gambas@...1...>
	<1284045615.5605.3.camel@...2406...>
	<201009091734.03486.gambas@...1...>
	<1284049594.6128.0.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=ndGxWYDKCWnY7UHYZwOy+RLKBSHvTJAH07CTQ@...627...>

All the change we have done are on gambas3 (svn trunk) ... if you
don't use it ... it's time to begin...

2010/9/9 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
> Fecha: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:34:03 +0200
>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
>> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
>> Fecha: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 03:26:50 +0200
>>
>> > OS: Ubuntu 9.10 - 32bits
>> > Gnome : 2.28
>> > Monitor : res. 1360x768
>> >
>> > [GB.FORM]
>> >
>> > *BUG: The icons in the Console tab, not shown completely.
>> >
>> > ? ? ? ? ? ?See.Image.png
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> > Cristian Abarz?a F.
>> >
>> >Can you run the IDE with GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 and send the output messages?
>> >
>> >$ cd /path/to/ide/source
>> >$ GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 gbx3
>> >...
>> >
>> >Regards,
>>
>> Sorry, where?
>>
>> I try in /usr/local/bin/GB_STOCK_DEBUG gbx3 and doesn't work.
>>
>> /usr/local/bin/GB_STOCK_DEBUG gambas3.gambas work's,but doesn't create a
>> text file
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Cristian Abarzua F.
>>
>
>>I don't understand anything: you say in the subject of your mail that you are
>>talking about the last revision of Gambas 3, and then in your mail you say
>>that you are using Gambas 2.28, whereas Gambas 2.28 does not exist (the last
>>version of Gambas 2 is 2.21).
>
>>So please check that you give accurate informations!
>
>>What I gave you in the previous mail is a list of shell command to enter in a
>>terminal window. But they are useless if you don't use Gambas 3.
>
>>Regards,
>
> If you say I placed Gambas 2.28, so be it ;=)
>
> Regards.
>
> Cristian Abarzua F.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 19:10:26 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:10:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling gambas
	3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikwGXpUbEn7YQhd+LAQwEm1pYmVaCKToZ4i7cRz@...627...>

ok .. go here :

http://gambasdoc.org/help/install/ubuntu

and install the given packages for your distrib ...in your case some
gtk package are missing !

2010/9/9 Daniel Rojas <lord.quo at ...626...>:
> ? Hi all, I'm tryinh to compile gamba3, revision 3203. I do this:
>
> $ mkdir gambas3
> $ cd gambas3
> $ mkdir trunk
> $ svn checkout
> https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/gambas/trunk/
> .
> .
> .
> Revisi?n obtenida: 3203
>
> $ cd trunk
> $ ./reconf-all
> $ ./configure
> $ make
>
> ? ?And then I have this error:
>
> make[5]: se ingresa al directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX ? --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..
> -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
> -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
> -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb
> -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
> -I/usr/include/librsvg-2 ? -I../share ? -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions
> -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
> -fno-omit-frame-pointer ?-MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
> .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c -o gdrawingarea.lo gdrawingarea.cpp
> libtool: compile: ?g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT
> -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
> -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/pixman-1
> -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb -I/usr/include/libpng12
> -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/librsvg-2
> -I../share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char
> -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD
> -MP -MF .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c gdrawingarea.cpp ?-fPIC -DPIC -o
> .libs/gdrawingarea.o
> gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?bool gDrawingArea::canFocus() const?:
> gdrawingarea.cpp:112: error: ?gtk_widget_get_can_focus? no se declar? en
> este ?mbito
> gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?void gDrawingArea::setCanFocus(bool)?:
> gdrawingarea.cpp:117: error: ?gtk_widget_set_can_focus? no se declar? en
> este ?mbito
> make[5]: *** [gdrawingarea.lo] Error 1
> make[5]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[4]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[3]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
> make[2]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
> ? What can I fix it?
>
> ? Thanks for all.
>
> Daniel Quintero desde la Ciudad de M?xico
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-- 
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From lord.quo at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 19:30:00 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Daniel Rojas)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:30:00 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling gambas
	3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwGXpUbEn7YQhd+LAQwEm1pYmVaCKToZ4i7cRz@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
	<AANLkTikwGXpUbEn7YQhd+LAQwEm1pYmVaCKToZ4i7cRz@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim9SjS8U_F=5CZ7goaaTDYb3NQc8kUqgngZA22H@...627...>

   Mmm, I following the instructions of this page and i intalled everything
and followed all steps, but the error still exists.

   I'm sure that something is missing, but a can't discover what.

   Any other idea?

   Thanks Fabien.

Daniel Quintero desde la Ciudad de M?xico


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:

> ok .. go here :
>
> http://gambasdoc.org/help/install/ubuntu
>
> and install the given packages for your distrib ...in your case some
> gtk package are missing !
>


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 20:35:04 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:35:04 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling gambas
	3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinu_UG0y-ZO1VqYKod8Po1VNH0YH94mjz04YN_1@...627...>

Instead of "./configure" try "./configure -C".

Jussi

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 18:30, Daniel Rojas <lord.quo at ...626...> wrote:

>   Hi all, I'm tryinh to compile gamba3, revision 3203. I do this:
>
> $ mkdir gambas3
> $ cd gambas3
> $ mkdir trunk
> $ svn checkout
> https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/gambas/trunk/
> .
> .
> .
> Revisi?n obtenida: 3203
>
> $ cd trunk
> $ ./reconf-all
> $ ./configure
> $ make
>
>    And then I have this error:
>
> make[5]: se ingresa al directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
> -I..
> -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
> -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
> -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb
> -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
> -I/usr/include/librsvg-2   -I../share   -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions
> -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
> -fno-omit-frame-pointer  -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
> .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c -o gdrawingarea.lo gdrawingarea.cpp
> libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT
> -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
> -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/pixman-1
> -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb -I/usr/include/libpng12
> -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
> -I/usr/include/librsvg-2
> -I../share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char
> -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD
> -MP -MF .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c gdrawingarea.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
> .libs/gdrawingarea.o
> gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?bool gDrawingArea::canFocus() const?:
> gdrawingarea.cpp:112: error: ?gtk_widget_get_can_focus? no se declar? en
> este ?mbito
> gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?void
> gDrawingArea::setCanFocus(bool)?:
> gdrawingarea.cpp:117: error: ?gtk_widget_set_can_focus? no se declar? en
> este ?mbito
> make[5]: *** [gdrawingarea.lo] Error 1
> make[5]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[4]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[3]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
> make[2]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
>   What can I fix it?
>
>   Thanks for all.
>
> Daniel Quintero desde la Ciudad de M?xico
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From math.eber at ...221...  Thu Sep  9 21:22:03 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:22:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Form.Enabled = False
Message-ID: <4C8933DB.6080109@...221...>

Gambas 3
Trying to show a modal window that has to be closed before other windows can do
anything.
"Fxy.ShowModal" is not useable, because the form should be placed somewhere and
not be centered relative to the desktop (why is a modal window centered and
can't be moved?)
So I tried to disable the underlying form FMain. I understand Enable = False as:
the form is inactive and doesn't accept any inputs. But I got funny results.
Most of the controls are inactive, some not.
See example.

Regards
Matti
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From lord.quo at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 22:51:40 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Daniel Rojas)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:51:40 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling gambas
	3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinu_UG0y-ZO1VqYKod8Po1VNH0YH94mjz04YN_1@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
	<AANLkTinu_UG0y-ZO1VqYKod8Po1VNH0YH94mjz04YN_1@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=wsOFAt97wkqjZFA8tWMkWsoEG63BXHcSFHLR_@...627...>

   Hi Jussi, I try the solution that you suggest, but I get the same error.

   I think that this error can be related with my Ubuntu version (9.04), I
realy don't know. My PC is a little old, and it can't run a newer version of
Ubuntu.

   :-(


Daniel Quintero desde la Ciudad de M?xico


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>wrote:

> Instead of "./configure" try "./configure -C".
>
> Jussi
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 18:30, Daniel Rojas <lord.quo at ...626...> wrote:
>
> >   Hi all, I'm tryinh to compile gamba3, revision 3203. I do this:
> >
> > $ mkdir gambas3
> > $ cd gambas3
> > $ mkdir trunk
> > $ svn checkout
> > https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/gambas/trunk/
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > Revisi?n obtenida: 3203
> >
> > $ cd trunk
> > $ ./reconf-all
> > $ ./configure
> > $ make
> >
> >    And then I have this error:
> >
> > make[5]: se ingresa al directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> > /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
> > -I..
> > -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
> > -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
> > -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb
> > -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
> -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
> > -I/usr/include/librsvg-2   -I../share   -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions
> > -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
> > -fno-omit-frame-pointer  -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
> > .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c -o gdrawingarea.lo gdrawingarea.cpp
> > libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT
> > -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
> > -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/pixman-1
> > -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb -I/usr/include/libpng12
> > -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
> > -I/usr/include/librsvg-2
> > -I../share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char
> > -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT gdrawingarea.lo
> -MD
> > -MP -MF .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c gdrawingarea.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
> > .libs/gdrawingarea.o
> > gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?bool gDrawingArea::canFocus()
> const?:
> > gdrawingarea.cpp:112: error: ?gtk_widget_get_can_focus? no se declar? en
> > este ?mbito
> > gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?void
> > gDrawingArea::setCanFocus(bool)?:
> > gdrawingarea.cpp:117: error: ?gtk_widget_set_can_focus? no se declar? en
> > este ?mbito
> > make[5]: *** [gdrawingarea.lo] Error 1
> > make[5]: se sale del directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> > make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[4]: se sale del directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> > make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[3]: se sale del directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
> > make[2]: se sale del directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: se sale del directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk'
> > make: *** [all] Error 2
> >
> >   What can I fix it?
> >
> >   Thanks for all.
>


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 23:22:58 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:22:58 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling gambas
	3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=wsOFAt97wkqjZFA8tWMkWsoEG63BXHcSFHLR_@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
	<AANLkTinu_UG0y-ZO1VqYKod8Po1VNH0YH94mjz04YN_1@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=wsOFAt97wkqjZFA8tWMkWsoEG63BXHcSFHLR_@...627...>
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I think you should send whole output of "./configure -C".

Jussi


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 23:51, Daniel Rojas <lord.quo at ...626...> wrote:

>   Hi Jussi, I try the solution that you suggest, but I get the same error.
>
>   I think that this error can be related with my Ubuntu version (9.04), I
> realy don't know. My PC is a little old, and it can't run a newer version
> of
> Ubuntu.
>
>   :-(
>
>
> Daniel Quintero desde la Ciudad de M?xico
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...
> >wrote:
>
> > Instead of "./configure" try "./configure -C".
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 18:30, Daniel Rojas <lord.quo at ...626...> wrote:
> >
> > >   Hi all, I'm tryinh to compile gamba3, revision 3203. I do this:
> > >
> > > $ mkdir gambas3
> > > $ cd gambas3
> > > $ mkdir trunk
> > > $ svn checkout
> > > https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/gambas/trunk/
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
> > > Revisi?n obtenida: 3203
> > >
> > > $ cd trunk
> > > $ ./reconf-all
> > > $ ./configure
> > > $ make
> > >
> > >    And then I have this error:
> > >
> > > make[5]: se ingresa al directorio
> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> > > /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
> > > -I..
> > > -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
> > > -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
> > > -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2
> -I/usr/include/directfb
> > > -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
> > -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
> > > -I/usr/include/librsvg-2   -I../share   -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions
> > > -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
> > > -fno-omit-frame-pointer  -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
> > > .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c -o gdrawingarea.lo gdrawingarea.cpp
> > > libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT
> > > -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
> -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
> > > -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/pixman-1
> > > -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb
> -I/usr/include/libpng12
> > > -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
> > > -I/usr/include/librsvg-2
> > > -I../share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char
> > > -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT gdrawingarea.lo
> > -MD
> > > -MP -MF .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c gdrawingarea.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
> > > .libs/gdrawingarea.o
> > > gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?bool gDrawingArea::canFocus()
> > const?:
> > > gdrawingarea.cpp:112: error: ?gtk_widget_get_can_focus? no se declar?
> en
> > > este ?mbito
> > > gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?void
> > > gDrawingArea::setCanFocus(bool)?:
> > > gdrawingarea.cpp:117: error: ?gtk_widget_set_can_focus? no se declar?
> en
> > > este ?mbito
> > > make[5]: *** [gdrawingarea.lo] Error 1
> > > make[5]: se sale del directorio
> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> > > make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > > make[4]: se sale del directorio
> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> > > make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > > make[3]: se sale del directorio
> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> > > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
> > > make[2]: se sale del directorio
> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> > > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > > make[1]: se sale del directorio
> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk'
> > > make: *** [all] Error 2
> > >
> > >   What can I fix it?
> > >
> > >   Thanks for all.
> >
>
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From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 23:25:12 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:25:12 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling gambas
	3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinqS37M2FWvOTtGbk9veeZNoBXV5_XPES=9HyU_@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
	<AANLkTinu_UG0y-ZO1VqYKod8Po1VNH0YH94mjz04YN_1@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=wsOFAt97wkqjZFA8tWMkWsoEG63BXHcSFHLR_@...627...>
	<AANLkTinqS37M2FWvOTtGbk9veeZNoBXV5_XPES=9HyU_@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikTirGwA-H42PPqJe5yzfVw1x9uUZFUcqphFDN9@...627...>

(./configure -C) > output.txt 2>&1

Jussi


On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 00:22, Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>wrote:

> I think you should send whole output of "./configure -C".
>
> Jussi
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 23:51, Daniel Rojas <lord.quo at ...626...> wrote:
>
>>   Hi Jussi, I try the solution that you suggest, but I get the same error.
>>
>>   I think that this error can be related with my Ubuntu version (9.04), I
>> realy don't know. My PC is a little old, and it can't run a newer version
>> of
>> Ubuntu.
>>
>>   :-(
>>
>>
>> Daniel Quintero desde la Ciudad de M?xico
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Instead of "./configure" try "./configure -C".
>> >
>> > Jussi
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 18:30, Daniel Rojas <lord.quo at ...626...> wrote:
>> >
>> > >   Hi all, I'm tryinh to compile gamba3, revision 3203. I do this:
>> > >
>> > > $ mkdir gambas3
>> > > $ cd gambas3
>> > > $ mkdir trunk
>> > > $ svn checkout
>> > > https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/gambas/trunk/
>> > > .
>> > > .
>> > > .
>> > > Revisi?n obtenida: 3203
>> > >
>> > > $ cd trunk
>> > > $ ./reconf-all
>> > > $ ./configure
>> > > $ make
>> > >
>> > >    And then I have this error:
>> > >
>> > > make[5]: se ingresa al directorio
>> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
>> > > /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
>> -I.
>> > > -I..
>> > > -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
>> > > -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
>> > > -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2
>> -I/usr/include/directfb
>> > > -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
>> > -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> > > -I/usr/include/librsvg-2   -I../share   -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions
>> > > -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
>> > > -fno-omit-frame-pointer  -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
>> > > .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c -o gdrawingarea.lo gdrawingarea.cpp
>> > > libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT
>> > > -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
>> -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
>> > > -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/pixman-1
>> > > -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb
>> -I/usr/include/libpng12
>> > > -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> > > -I/usr/include/librsvg-2
>> > > -I../share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char
>> > > -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT gdrawingarea.lo
>> > -MD
>> > > -MP -MF .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c gdrawingarea.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
>> > > .libs/gdrawingarea.o
>> > > gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?bool gDrawingArea::canFocus()
>> > const?:
>> > > gdrawingarea.cpp:112: error: ?gtk_widget_get_can_focus? no se declar?
>> en
>> > > este ?mbito
>> > > gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?void
>> > > gDrawingArea::setCanFocus(bool)?:
>> > > gdrawingarea.cpp:117: error: ?gtk_widget_set_can_focus? no se declar?
>> en
>> > > este ?mbito
>> > > make[5]: *** [gdrawingarea.lo] Error 1
>> > > make[5]: se sale del directorio
>> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
>> > > make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> > > make[4]: se sale del directorio
>> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
>> > > make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> > > make[3]: se sale del directorio
>> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
>> > > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
>> > > make[2]: se sale del directorio
>> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
>> > > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> > > make[1]: se sale del directorio
>> > > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk'
>> > > make: *** [all] Error 2
>> > >
>> > >   What can I fix it?
>> > >
>> > >   Thanks for all.
>> >
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
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>
>


From lord.quo at ...626...  Thu Sep  9 23:27:36 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Daniel Rojas)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:27:36 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling gambas
	3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikTirGwA-H42PPqJe5yzfVw1x9uUZFUcqphFDN9@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
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	<AANLkTi=wsOFAt97wkqjZFA8tWMkWsoEG63BXHcSFHLR_@...627...>
	<AANLkTinqS37M2FWvOTtGbk9veeZNoBXV5_XPES=9HyU_@...627...>
	<AANLkTikTirGwA-H42PPqJe5yzfVw1x9uUZFUcqphFDN9@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimEuavpAnQZrmjxg=UX8d0vEF7+koWEf-1qjfHH@...627...>

   Ok, give few minutes to generate de output.

   Thanks.

Daniel Quintero desde la Ciudad de M?xico


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>wrote:

> (./configure -C) > output.txt 2>&1
>
> Jussi
>


From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 10 00:35:11 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:35:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling gambas
	3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009100035.11924.gambas@...1...>

>    Hi all, I'm tryinh to compile gamba3, revision 3203. I do this:
> 
> $ mkdir gambas3
> $ cd gambas3
> $ mkdir trunk
> $ svn checkout
> https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/gambas/trunk/
> .
> .
> .
> Revisi?n obtenida: 3203
> 
> $ cd trunk
> $ ./reconf-all
> $ ./configure
> $ make
> 
>     And then I have this error:
> 
> make[5]: se ingresa al directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
> -I.. -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
> -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
> -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb
> -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
> -I/usr/include/librsvg-2   -I../share   -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions
> -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
> -fno-omit-frame-pointer  -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
> .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c -o gdrawingarea.lo gdrawingarea.cpp
> libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT
> -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
> -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/pixman-1
> -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb -I/usr/include/libpng12
> -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
> -I/usr/include/librsvg-2 -I../share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions
> -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
> -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
> .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c gdrawingarea.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
> .libs/gdrawingarea.o
> gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?bool gDrawingArea::canFocus() const?:
> gdrawingarea.cpp:112: error: ?gtk_widget_get_can_focus? no se declar? en
> este ?mbito
> gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?void
> gDrawingArea::setCanFocus(bool)?: gdrawingarea.cpp:117: error:
> ?gtk_widget_set_can_focus? no se declar? en este ?mbito
> make[5]: *** [gdrawingarea.lo] Error 1
> make[5]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[4]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[3]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
> make[2]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: se sale del directorio
> `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> 
>    What can I fix it?
> 
>    Thanks for all.
> 
> Daniel Quintero desde la Ciudad de M?xico

I guess your GTK+ version is too old. Can you tell me which version of GTK+ in 
installed on your system? To do that, look at the package name, or at the .so 
library file name.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 10 00:51:54 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:51:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <1284049594.6128.0.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009091734.03486.gambas@...1...>
	<1284049594.6128.0.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009100051.54645.gambas@...1...>

> 
> If you say I placed Gambas 2.28, so be it ;=)
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F.
> 

OOPS!!! I'm confused and sorry... Now I read Gambas when it is written Gnome! 
Strange disease... You can give me a forfeit.

So, if you are using Gambas 3 on Gnome 2.28, with the latest trunk, you should 
be able to run the shell commands, shouldn't you?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 10 00:59:05 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:59:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling gambas3
In-Reply-To: <201009100035.11924.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...>
	<201009100035.11924.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <201009100059.05855.gambas@...1...>

> >    Hi all, I'm tryinh to compile gamba3, revision 3203. I do this:
> > $ mkdir gambas3
> > $ cd gambas3
> > $ mkdir trunk
> > $ svn checkout
> > https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/gambas/trunk/
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > Revisi?n obtenida: 3203
> > 
> > $ cd trunk
> > $ ./reconf-all
> > $ ./configure
> > $ make
> > 
> >     And then I have this error:
> > make[5]: se ingresa al directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> > /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
> > -I.. -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
> > -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
> > -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb
> > -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
> > -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/librsvg-2   -I../share  
> > -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char
> > -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
> > -fno-omit-frame-pointer  -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
> > .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c -o gdrawingarea.lo gdrawingarea.cpp
> > libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT
> > -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
> > -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/pixman-1
> > -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb -I/usr/include/libpng12
> > -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
> > -I/usr/include/librsvg-2 -I../share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions
> > -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
> > -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
> > .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c gdrawingarea.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
> > .libs/gdrawingarea.o
> > gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?bool gDrawingArea::canFocus()
> > const?: gdrawingarea.cpp:112: error: ?gtk_widget_get_can_focus? no se
> > declar? en este ?mbito
> > gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?void
> > gDrawingArea::setCanFocus(bool)?: gdrawingarea.cpp:117: error:
> > ?gtk_widget_set_can_focus? no se declar? en este ?mbito
> > make[5]: *** [gdrawingarea.lo] Error 1
> > make[5]: se sale del directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> > make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[4]: se sale del directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> > make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[3]: se sale del directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
> > make[2]: se sale del directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: se sale del directorio
> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk'
> > make: *** [all] Error 2
> > 
> >    What can I fix it?
> >    
> >    Thanks for all.
> > 
> > Daniel Quintero desde la Ciudad de M?xico
> 
> I guess your GTK+ version is too old. Can you tell me which version of GTK+
> in installed on your system? To do that, look at the package name, or at
> the .so library file name.
> 
> Regards,

Can you try with the latest #3204 revision?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Fri Sep 10 01:16:16 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:16:16 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <201009100051.54645.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009091734.03486.gambas@...1...>
	<1284049594.6128.0.camel@...2406...>
	<201009100051.54645.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1284074176.32706.9.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
Fecha: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:51:54 +0200

> 
> If you say I placed Gambas 2.28, so be it ;=)
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F.
> 

>OOPS!!! I'm confused and sorry... Now I read Gambas when it is written Gnome! 
>Strange disease... You can give me a forfeit.

>So, if you are using Gambas 3 on Gnome 2.28, with the latest trunk, you should 
>be able to run the shell commands, shouldn't you?


ja,ja,There is nothing to forgive, we all passed. ;=)

What happens is that I see that GB_STOCK_DEBUG variable is very useful
and would like to know how to use it.

I figured you had to run into /usr/local/bin/, it is there where the
file is gbx3, but in doing so tells me file or directory not found.
or is it in the sources?. Example /trunk/main/gbx/, But there just is
source files.

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua





From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 10 01:25:12 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:25:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <1284074176.32706.9.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009100051.54645.gambas@...1...>
	<1284074176.32706.9.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009100125.12509.gambas@...1...>

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
> Fecha: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:51:54 +0200
> 
> > If you say I placed Gambas 2.28, so be it ;=)
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > Cristian Abarzua F.
> >
> >OOPS!!! I'm confused and sorry... Now I read Gambas when it is written
> >Gnome! Strange disease... You can give me a forfeit.
> >
> >So, if you are using Gambas 3 on Gnome 2.28, with the latest trunk, you
> >should be able to run the shell commands, shouldn't you?
> 
> ja,ja,There is nothing to forgive, we all passed. ;=)
> 
> What happens is that I see that GB_STOCK_DEBUG variable is very useful
> and would like to know how to use it.
> 
> I figured you had to run into /usr/local/bin/, it is there where the
> file is gbx3, but in doing so tells me file or directory not found.
> or is it in the sources?. Example /trunk/main/gbx/, But there just is
> source files.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua
> 

You must run the command in the IDE source tree, which is 
/xxxx/trunk/app/src/gambas3, where /xxxx/trunk is the directory where you did 
a checkout of the subversion repository. But first, you should have to compile 
it.

So:

$ cd /xxxx/trunk/app/src/gambas3
$ gbc3 -agt
$ GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 gbx3
...

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Fri Sep 10 01:39:25 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:39:25 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <201009100125.12509.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009100051.54645.gambas@...1...>
	<1284074176.32706.9.camel@...2406...>
	<201009100125.12509.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1284075565.32706.17.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
Fecha: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:25:12 +0200


> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
> Fecha: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:51:54 +0200
> 
> > If you say I placed Gambas 2.28, so be it ;=)
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > Cristian Abarzua F.
> >
> >OOPS!!! I'm confused and sorry... Now I read Gambas when it is written
> >Gnome! Strange disease... You can give me a forfeit.
> >
> >So, if you are using Gambas 3 on Gnome 2.28, with the latest trunk, you
> >should be able to run the shell commands, shouldn't you?
> 
> ja,ja,There is nothing to forgive, we all passed. ;=)
> 
> What happens is that I see that GB_STOCK_DEBUG variable is very useful
> and would like to know how to use it.
> 
> I figured you had to run into /usr/local/bin/, it is there where the
> file is gbx3, but in doing so tells me file or directory not found.
> or is it in the sources?. Example /trunk/main/gbx/, But there just is
> source files.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua
> 

>You must run the command in the IDE source tree, which is 
>/xxxx/trunk/app/src/gambas3, where /xxxx/trunk is the directory where you did 
>a checkout of the subversion repository. But first, you should have to compile 
>it.

>So:

>$ cd /xxxx/trunk/app/src/gambas3
>$ gbc3 -agt
>$ GB_STOCK_DEBUG=1 gbx3
>...

>Regards,


Ok. Now I understand.

With regard to the installer, I send you some screens to see if you
like. This installer would be separated from Gambas3, because the code
is heavily commented, and I have delayed a lot in trying to understand.
I'm still stuck trying to run the executable with another version of
glibc, but nothing.

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua

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From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Sat Sep 11 20:18:29 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (tobias)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:18:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
Message-ID: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>

hello mailing list,

i am absolutely new to databases in general and so to databases in 
gambas, too. i plan to use sqlite3 and in general i am understanding the 
related stuff part by part but it is very confusing with the different 
classes and i think this complicates my learning process.
but to my questions now. i want to make a database table just in memory 
to get me a bit closer to this all:

hConnection = NEW Connection
hConnection.Type = "sqlite3"
hConnection.Open()
hTable = hConnection.Tables.Add("test")
hTable.Fields.Add("id", db.Serial)
hTable.Fields.Add("name", db.String)
hTable.PrimaryKey = ["id"]
hTable.Update()
hResult = hConnection.Create("test")

and in the following i want to add three names to the database and then 
hResult.Update() them, but how do i create more records than one? (i 
used hResult["name"] = "tobi" to create the first, this works)

the next question.
i got a result from a database with some records predefined (fields are 
id (serial) and name (string)):

hResult = hConnection.Exec("select * from test")

in a for loop i go through all the records by doing:

FOR iCount = 0 TO hResult.Count - 1 STEP 1
  hResult.MoveTo(iCount)
  FOR EACH hField IN hResult.Fields
    TextArea1.Insert(hResult[hField.Name])
  NEXT
  TextArea1.Insert("\n")
 NEXT

which works also fine but i really don't like the hResult.MoveTo() part 
of this code, isn't there any way to handle this result simply as an 
array? this would solve both problems and i could do database stuff with 
ease?

regards, tobi



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Sep 11 21:46:28 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:46:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin8Uz2Mpb9NigVS1sgp6T7PXwH-BGY7Tk1xGeHN@...627...>

like that ?

For each hresult

  print hResult!MyField

next

2010/9/11 tobias <tobiasboe1 at ...20...>:
> hello mailing list,
>
> i am absolutely new to databases in general and so to databases in
> gambas, too. i plan to use sqlite3 and in general i am understanding the
> related stuff part by part but it is very confusing with the different
> classes and i think this complicates my learning process.
> but to my questions now. i want to make a database table just in memory
> to get me a bit closer to this all:
>
> hConnection = NEW Connection
> hConnection.Type = "sqlite3"
> hConnection.Open()
> hTable = hConnection.Tables.Add("test")
> hTable.Fields.Add("id", db.Serial)
> hTable.Fields.Add("name", db.String)
> hTable.PrimaryKey = ["id"]
> hTable.Update()
> hResult = hConnection.Create("test")
>
> and in the following i want to add three names to the database and then
> hResult.Update() them, but how do i create more records than one? (i
> used hResult["name"] = "tobi" to create the first, this works)
>
> the next question.
> i got a result from a database with some records predefined (fields are
> id (serial) and name (string)):
>
> hResult = hConnection.Exec("select * from test")
>
> in a for loop i go through all the records by doing:
>
> FOR iCount = 0 TO hResult.Count - 1 STEP 1
> ?hResult.MoveTo(iCount)
> ?FOR EACH hField IN hResult.Fields
> ? ?TextArea1.Insert(hResult[hField.Name])
> ?NEXT
> ?TextArea1.Insert("\n")
> ?NEXT
>
> which works also fine but i really don't like the hResult.MoveTo() part
> of this code, isn't there any way to handle this result simply as an
> array? this would solve both problems and i could do database stuff with
> ease?
>
> regards, tobi
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
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From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Sat Sep 11 22:06:35 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (Tobias Boege)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:06:35 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin8Uz2Mpb9NigVS1sgp6T7PXwH-BGY7Tk1xGeHN@...627...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>,
	<AANLkTin8Uz2Mpb9NigVS1sgp6T7PXwH-BGY7Tk1xGeHN@...627...>
Message-ID: <1140053087.13614579.1284235595525.JavaMail.fmail@...2478...>

hi,

>like that ?
>
>For each hresult
>
>  print hResult!MyField
>
>next
>

hmm, this works fine and looks like a pretty good solution! but there's no way to handle a result the same way like an array? this FOR EACH construct is especially for the result records? i need to understand this stuff for a skilled labour completely, for this reason understanding the structure of the Result-Object is neccessary. it seems to be the most complicated thing in gambas :)

and can you tell me something about my first problem? this also shouldn't be so defficult, i think?

regards, tobi
___________________________________________________________
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From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Sat Sep 11 22:33:19 2010
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:33:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <1140053087.13614579.1284235595525.JavaMail.fmail@...2478...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
	<AANLkTin8Uz2Mpb9NigVS1sgp6T7PXwH-BGY7Tk1xGeHN@...627...>
	<1140053087.13614579.1284235595525.JavaMail.fmail@...2478...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikvnZ7wP+M1kSWKy+R+m=3DJa-mCitvVYJ5wZZb@...627...>

For the first question I recomend to you use SQL sentence for insert. You
can write a function where you past name of database table, name of fields
and values and it returns the SQL INSERT sentence. I think it's all people
do (me too!)


SQL = "INSERT INTO test (id, name) VALUES ('1', 'name01')"
hConnection.Exec(SQL)

Regards,
Ricardo D?az



2010/9/11 Tobias Boege <tobiasboe1 at ...20...>

> hi,
>
> >like that ?
> >
> >For each hresult
> >
> >  print hResult!MyField
> >
> >next
> >
>
> hmm, this works fine and looks like a pretty good solution! but there's no
> way to handle a result the same way like an array? this FOR EACH construct
> is especially for the result records? i need to understand this stuff for a
> skilled labour completely, for this reason understanding the structure of
> the Result-Object is neccessary. it seems to be the most complicated thing
> in gambas :)
>
> and can you tell me something about my first problem? this also shouldn't
> be so defficult, i think?
>
> regards, tobi
> ___________________________________________________________
> WEB.DE DSL SOMMER-SPECIAL: Surf & Phone Flat 16.000 f?r
> nur 19,99 &euro;/mtl.!* http://produkte.web.de/go/DSL-Doppel-Flatrate/2
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Sat Sep 11 22:44:53 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (tobias)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:44:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikvnZ7wP+M1kSWKy+R+m=3DJa-mCitvVYJ5wZZb@...627...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>	<AANLkTin8Uz2Mpb9NigVS1sgp6T7PXwH-BGY7Tk1xGeHN@...627...>	<1140053087.13614579.1284235595525.JavaMail.fmail@...2478...>
	<AANLkTikvnZ7wP+M1kSWKy+R+m=3DJa-mCitvVYJ5wZZb@...627...>
Message-ID: <4C8BEA45.6020106@...20...>

hi,

> For the first question I recomend to you use SQL sentence for insert. You
> can write a function where you past name of database table, name of fields
> and values and it returns the SQL INSERT sentence. I think it's all people
> do (me too!)
>
>
> SQL = "INSERT INTO test (id, name) VALUES ('1', 'name01')"
> hConnection.Exec(SQL)
>
> Regards,
> Ricardo D?az
>
>
>
> 2010/9/11 Tobias Boege <tobiasboe1 at ...20...>
>
>   
>> hi,
>>
>>     
>>> like that ?
>>>
>>> For each hresult
>>>
>>>  print hResult!MyField
>>>
>>> next
>>>
>>>       
>> hmm, this works fine and looks like a pretty good solution! but there's no
>> way to handle a result the same way like an array? this FOR EACH construct
>> is especially for the result records? i need to understand this stuff for a
>> skilled labour completely, for this reason understanding the structure of
>> the Result-Object is neccessary. it seems to be the most complicated thing
>> in gambas :)
>>
>> and can you tell me something about my first problem? this also shouldn't
>> be so defficult, i think?
>>
>> regards, tobi
>> ___________________________________________________________
>> WEB.DE DSL SOMMER-SPECIAL: Surf & Phone Flat 16.000 f?r
>> nur 19,99 &euro;/mtl.!* http://produkte.web.de/go/DSL-Doppel-Flatrate/2
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
>>     
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>   
okay, i'll do so too ;) in the picture database example there's a separate function, too, in which the table is opened for create and the one record created. this seems more
backend independent, but there's no need of it because i have to write about gamabs + sqlite3.

hmm, i hope anybody could tell me about the Result-Object structure, for the reason that i don't understand it, it would be very interesting in the skilled labour :)

thank you very much,
tobi




From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Sep 11 23:15:19 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:15:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <4C8BEA45.6020106@...20...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
	<AANLkTin8Uz2Mpb9NigVS1sgp6T7PXwH-BGY7Tk1xGeHN@...627...>
	<1140053087.13614579.1284235595525.JavaMail.fmail@...2478...>
	<AANLkTikvnZ7wP+M1kSWKy+R+m=3DJa-mCitvVYJ5wZZb@...627...>
	<4C8BEA45.6020106@...20...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimOLOtwDA7CcE9T5GPRfnqb+=mhxM1dE+OempOP@...627...>

hResult = hConnection.Create("test")
hResult!Name = "Name01"
hResult = hConnection.Create("test")
hResult!Name = "Name02"
hResult = hConnection.Create("test")
hResult!Name = "Name03"

or

for i=0 to 2
  hResult = hConnection.Create("test")
  hResult!Name = "Name0" & i
next


with db.serial the id is auto incremented

2010/9/11 tobias <tobiasboe1 at ...20...>:
> hi,
>
>> For the first question I recomend to you use SQL sentence for insert. You
>> can write a function where you past name of database table, name of fields
>> and values and it returns the SQL INSERT sentence. I think it's all people
>> do (me too!)
>>
>>
>> SQL = "INSERT INTO test (id, name) VALUES ('1', 'name01')"
>> hConnection.Exec(SQL)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ricardo D?az
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/9/11 Tobias Boege <tobiasboe1 at ...20...>
>>
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>> like that ?
>>>>
>>>> For each hresult
>>>>
>>>> ?print hResult!MyField
>>>>
>>>> next
>>>>
>>>>
>>> hmm, this works fine and looks like a pretty good solution! but there's no
>>> way to handle a result the same way like an array? this FOR EACH construct
>>> is especially for the result records? i need to understand this stuff for a
>>> skilled labour completely, for this reason understanding the structure of
>>> the Result-Object is neccessary. it seems to be the most complicated thing
>>> in gambas :)
>>>
>>> and can you tell me something about my first problem? this also shouldn't
>>> be so defficult, i think?
>>>
>>> regards, tobi
>>> ___________________________________________________________
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> okay, i'll do so too ;) in the picture database example there's a separate function, too, in which the table is opened for create and the one record created. this seems more
> backend independent, but there's no need of it because i have to write about gamabs + sqlite3.
>
> hmm, i hope anybody could tell me about the Result-Object structure, for the reason that i don't understand it, it would be very interesting in the skilled labour :)
>
> thank you very much,
> tobi
>
>
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From prog at ...2177...  Sun Sep 12 00:20:29 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:20:29 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing component GB.INFO
Message-ID: <1284243629.5064.16.camel@...2406...>

[GB.INFO]

Testing in Gambas3 Rev 3206 and Gambas 2.21.
SO: Ubuntu 9.10 i386

* Create proyect GTK.
* Add Control Listview
* Add three controls Button.
* Add Class Class1
* Add two forms.


* Code in Button1:

  Dim x As Byte
  
  For x = 0 To Info.Classes.Count - 1 
   ListView1.Add(x, Info.Classes[x])
  Next

  Result: No Class are displayed in Listview.

*Code in Button 2:
  
  Dim x As Byte 

  For x = 0 To Info.forms.Count - 1 
   ListView1.Add(x, Info.forms[x])
  Next

  Result: No forms are displayed in Listview

**Code in Button 3:
  
  Dim x As Byte 

  For x = 0 To Info.forms.components - 1 
   ListView1.Add(x, Info.components[x])
  Next

  Result: gb,gb.cairo,gb.chart.....etc. Good.

Console displays the following output when running the program.

ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
....
....

Is this correct?

Regards

Cristian Abarzua F.




From prog at ...2177...  Sun Sep 12 00:28:49 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:28:49 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT in Gambas3
Message-ID: <1284244129.5064.20.camel@...2406...>

[ DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT]

Testing in Gambas3 Rev 3206
SO: Ubuntu 9.10 i386

* When you save a project with the name of another existing project. Not
indicated by a message that the project already exists as gambas2.

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua F




From rterry at ...1946...  Sun Sep 12 01:44:03 2010
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:44:03 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
Message-ID: <201009120944.03683.rterry@...1946...>


Hi Tobias,

If you are new to databases, you could choose to go to the best open source 
database from the beginning - postgresql.

There are a wealth of postgresql books and tutorials around on the web. in 
Linux, youve got the pgadmin graphical tool and if you also run windows or a 
virtual machine, and intend to do any serious database programming, then a 
copy of sqlmanager for windows is worth purchasing. http://www.sqlmanager.net/ 
which will solve you hours of grief for complex views and functions. The 
lastest pgadmin also has a rudimentary sql query builder.

There is also a really helpful mail list:

pgsql-novice at ...2059...


which is monitored by Tom Lane one of the postgresql authors/gurus, even the 
simplest questions are answered, or the most complex.

Also, you don't have to use the gambas database gui tools, you can have your 
own routines to connect to the database if you desire, simply establish a 
connection and use that connection for all your work:

Personally I've found it much easier to create all my tables by hand in 
pgadmin or from the command line passing a text file to psql, and just do the 
database acessing from gambas to obtain or insert data, put the data into 
collections, and manipulate and display as needed in the gui.

I never managed to get the gambas gui database connect to link to my database.

One other hint - maybe not that important, but I always backup the database as  
plain and no owner.

Lastly if you've not already got this basic book which, despite its age is not 
really out of date, source this from the command line:

wget http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/Uelsk8s/gambas-beginner-guide.pdf


Hope this is of some general assistance.

Regards

Richard


> hello mailing list,
> 
> i am absolutely new to databases in general and so to databases in
> gambas, too. i plan to use sqlite3 and in general i am understanding the
> related stuff part by part but it is very confusing with the different
> classes and i think this complicates my learning process.
> but to my questions now. i want to make a database table just in memory
> to get me a bit closer to this all:
> 
> hConnection = NEW Connection
> hConnection.Type = "sqlite3"
> hConnection.Open()
> hTable = hConnection.Tables.Add("test")
> hTable.Fields.Add("id", db.Serial)
> hTable.Fields.Add("name", db.String)
> hTable.PrimaryKey = ["id"]
> hTable.Update()
> hResult = hConnection.Create("test")
> 
> and in the following i want to add three names to the database and then
> hResult.Update() them, but how do i create more records than one? (i
> used hResult["name"] = "tobi" to create the first, this works)
> 
> the next question.
> i got a result from a database with some records predefined (fields are
> id (serial) and name (string)):
> 
> hResult = hConnection.Exec("select * from test")
> 
> in a for loop i go through all the records by doing:
> 
> FOR iCount = 0 TO hResult.Count - 1 STEP 1
>   hResult.MoveTo(iCount)
>   FOR EACH hField IN hResult.Fields
>     TextArea1.Insert(hResult[hField.Name])
>   NEXT

>   TextArea1.Insert("\n")
>  NEXT
> 
> which works also fine but i really don't like the hResult.MoveTo() part
> of this code, isn't there any way to handle this result simply as an
> array? this would solve both problems and i could do database stuff with
> ease?
> 
> regards, tobi
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
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> 



From Gambas at ...1950...  Sun Sep 12 10:45:22 2010
From: Gambas at ...1950... (Caveat)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:45:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <201009120944.03683.rterry@...1946...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
	<201009120944.03683.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <1284281122.16323.101.camel@...2479...>

Hi Tobias

I can understand your frustration, programming with databases is not so
simple in the beginning and there are some new concepts to get your head
around.  I think the Result object is quite often misunderstood and
people often ask:

"Why can't the SQL stuff return something simple I can understand, like
an Array (or a Collection if you've gone a little further in Gambas), in
place of this complicated Result object?"

Before answering these questions, it's probably a good idea to start
with an analogy, and hopefully by the time I'm done, you won't need the
answer you thought you needed.

Let's imagine you've placed an ad for a job in the local paper and a few
people turn up for the interview.  No problem, you just ask everyone
into your little interview room, you go through the candidates and
choose one.

Now let's imagine you've placed an ad for a job as a lady's underwear
salesman.  Suddenly you have thousands of applicants and they won't fit
into your little interview room (hint: memory!).  So you place your
thousands of applicants in the local sports hall (hint: database!) and
employ an assistant whose job it is to go and fetch the Next candidate
from the sports hall and bring them to your little interview room.  You
process each applicant in your little interview room and leave it to
your assistant (hint: Result!) to keep track of who you've already seen,
who's Next on the list, and to let you know when you've interviewed all
the candidates.

I hope it's clear from this somewhat imperfect analogy that a Result
object doesn't hold all the records you've selected in memory and only
provides a mechanism for looking at each record matching your criteria
in turn.

Databases are designed to hold huge numbers of records (think of the
government, a car manufacturer, a utility company...) often running into
the millions of records.  If you got into the habit of reading all the
records you've selected into memory (or even if the Result object worked
that way behind the scenes...), you'd soon find everything breaking with
Out Of Memory errors as soon as you start doing anything serious.

Now we've cleared all that up, let's look at just how simple the Result
object can be (we have a candidates table, with columns like name,
canReadAndWrite, address, date of birth etc.):

Once you've established a Connection to your database, let's say in
myConn...

Dim sql as String
Dim name as String
Dim canReadAndWrite as String
Dim candidateList as Result
sql = "select name, canReadAndWrite from candidates"
candidateList = myConn.Exec(sql)
' This is the important line... see how simple it can be to navigate
round a Result object
FOR EACH candidateList
	name = candidateList["name"]
	canReadAndWrite = candidateList["canReadAndWrite"]
	IF Ucase$(canReadAndWrite) = "YES" THEN
		Print "Candidate " & name & " selected!"
	ELSE
		Print "Candidate " & name & " NOT selected!"
	END IF
NEXT

Ignoring all the obvious flaws in my example ("Why didn't you just add a
WHERE clause to preselect only the candidates who can read and write?",
"Why do you have a canReadAndWrite column in place of 2 separate canRead
and canWrite columns?", "Why isn't canReadAndWrite a boolean?") it does
hopefully serve to illustrate just how simple dealing with Result
objects can be:

1. You write your SQL statement String
2. You assign your Result object to the return from myConn.Exec(String)
3. You process each record inside a FOR EACH... NEXT on your Result

Hope this helps a little
Regards,
Caveat




From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 12 11:33:01 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:33:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing component GB.INFO
In-Reply-To: <1284243629.5064.16.camel@...2406...>
References: <1284243629.5064.16.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009121133.01451.gambas@...1...>

> [GB.INFO]
> 
> Testing in Gambas3 Rev 3206 and Gambas 2.21.
> SO: Ubuntu 9.10 i386
> 
> * Create proyect GTK.
> * Add Control Listview
> * Add three controls Button.
> * Add Class Class1
> * Add two forms.
> 
> 
> * Code in Button1:
> 
>   Dim x As Byte
> 
>   For x = 0 To Info.Classes.Count - 1
>    ListView1.Add(x, Info.Classes[x])
>   Next
> 
>   Result: No Class are displayed in Listview.
> 
> *Code in Button 2:
> 
>   Dim x As Byte
> 
>   For x = 0 To Info.forms.Count - 1
>    ListView1.Add(x, Info.forms[x])
>   Next
> 
>   Result: No forms are displayed in Listview
> 
> **Code in Button 3:
> 
>   Dim x As Byte
> 
>   For x = 0 To Info.forms.components - 1
>    ListView1.Add(x, Info.components[x])
>   Next
> 
>   Result: gb,gb.cairo,gb.chart.....etc. Good.
> 
> Console displays the following output when running the program.
> 
> ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
> ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
> ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
> ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
> ....
> ....
> 
> Is this correct?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F.
> 

Thanks for the report. In (3) the message is just a warning for a deprecated 
constant. 'gb.Text' must be replaced by 'gb.IgnoreCase'.

Anyway it's far better if you can provide a Gambas project instead of 
describing the code, because then it's faster for me, and I am sure that I 
reproduce exactly the same code in the same context than you!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Sep 12 11:47:11 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:47:11 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <1284281122.16323.101.camel@...2479...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
	<201009120944.03683.rterry@...1946...>
	<1284281122.16323.101.camel@...2479...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik3shBoqPCrJYnmppHit9EVh3-PbpT9gH2gEbfK@...627...>

The biggest help for him will be to read a sql book :)... it was for
me the only way to quit the M$ ADO in the past. But gb.db and result
is suffisely powerfull to manage most part of the db capabilities in a
first time . Then he can learn sql do to more.


All depend of the project ... for a little project with 10  to 10000
entry ... sqlite is good enouth. For more take a look to mysql or
postgresql ... i'm agree with richard , postgre is powerfull ... (Both
are good enouth for non professionnal in fact)

2010/9/12 Caveat <Gambas at ...1950...>:
> Hi Tobias
>
> I can understand your frustration, programming with databases is not so
> simple in the beginning and there are some new concepts to get your head
> around. ?I think the Result object is quite often misunderstood and
> people often ask:
>
> "Why can't the SQL stuff return something simple I can understand, like
> an Array (or a Collection if you've gone a little further in Gambas), in
> place of this complicated Result object?"
>
> Before answering these questions, it's probably a good idea to start
> with an analogy, and hopefully by the time I'm done, you won't need the
> answer you thought you needed.
>
> Let's imagine you've placed an ad for a job in the local paper and a few
> people turn up for the interview. ?No problem, you just ask everyone
> into your little interview room, you go through the candidates and
> choose one.
>
> Now let's imagine you've placed an ad for a job as a lady's underwear
> salesman. ?Suddenly you have thousands of applicants and they won't fit
> into your little interview room (hint: memory!). ?So you place your
> thousands of applicants in the local sports hall (hint: database!) and
> employ an assistant whose job it is to go and fetch the Next candidate
> from the sports hall and bring them to your little interview room. ?You
> process each applicant in your little interview room and leave it to
> your assistant (hint: Result!) to keep track of who you've already seen,
> who's Next on the list, and to let you know when you've interviewed all
> the candidates.
>
> I hope it's clear from this somewhat imperfect analogy that a Result
> object doesn't hold all the records you've selected in memory and only
> provides a mechanism for looking at each record matching your criteria
> in turn.
>
> Databases are designed to hold huge numbers of records (think of the
> government, a car manufacturer, a utility company...) often running into
> the millions of records. ?If you got into the habit of reading all the
> records you've selected into memory (or even if the Result object worked
> that way behind the scenes...), you'd soon find everything breaking with
> Out Of Memory errors as soon as you start doing anything serious.
>
> Now we've cleared all that up, let's look at just how simple the Result
> object can be (we have a candidates table, with columns like name,
> canReadAndWrite, address, date of birth etc.):
>
> Once you've established a Connection to your database, let's say in
> myConn...
>
> Dim sql as String
> Dim name as String
> Dim canReadAndWrite as String
> Dim candidateList as Result
> sql = "select name, canReadAndWrite from candidates"
> candidateList = myConn.Exec(sql)
> ' This is the important line... see how simple it can be to navigate
> round a Result object
> FOR EACH candidateList
> ? ? ? ?name = candidateList["name"]
> ? ? ? ?canReadAndWrite = candidateList["canReadAndWrite"]
> ? ? ? ?IF Ucase$(canReadAndWrite) = "YES" THEN
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Print "Candidate " & name & " selected!"
> ? ? ? ?ELSE
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Print "Candidate " & name & " NOT selected!"
> ? ? ? ?END IF
> NEXT
>
> Ignoring all the obvious flaws in my example ("Why didn't you just add a
> WHERE clause to preselect only the candidates who can read and write?",
> "Why do you have a canReadAndWrite column in place of 2 separate canRead
> and canWrite columns?", "Why isn't canReadAndWrite a boolean?") it does
> hopefully serve to illustrate just how simple dealing with Result
> objects can be:
>
> 1. You write your SQL statement String
> 2. You assign your Result object to the return from myConn.Exec(String)
> 3. You process each record inside a FOR EACH... NEXT on your Result
>
> Hope this helps a little
> Regards,
> Caveat
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 12 11:52:40 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:52:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
Message-ID: <201009121152.40035.gambas@...1...>

> the next question.
> i got a result from a database with some records predefined (fields are
> id (serial) and name (string)):
> 
> hResult = hConnection.Exec("select * from test")
> 
> in a for loop i go through all the records by doing:
> 
> FOR iCount = 0 TO hResult.Count - 1 STEP 1
>   hResult.MoveTo(iCount)
>   FOR EACH hField IN hResult.Fields
>     TextArea1.Insert(hResult[hField.Name])
>   NEXT
>   TextArea1.Insert("\n")
>  NEXT
> 
> which works also fine but i really don't like the hResult.MoveTo() part
> of this code, isn't there any way to handle this result simply as an
> array? this would solve both problems and i could do database stuff with
> ease?
> 
> regards, tobi
> 

Why just not an array? Ha! Good question...

When I design Gambas, I try to use a property only when the process behind is 
usually immediate (like reading a value in memory).

Database drivers are not obliged to return the entire result of a SQL query. 
They can return the records one by one, at client request. So accessing the i-
th record of a Result object can take time. 

But at the moment only the mysql driver is clever enough for doing that.

Moreover, The other reason I didn't use the array interface is a bad one: I 
stupidly copied the MS interface! :-)

And the Result object internally stores its data in a memory array

So I could provide the same interface to the Gambas user, and finally you are 
mainly right.

But I don't think I can change the interface anymore, it will break a lot of 
code. Unless someone finds an unexpected solution.

For only you, there is a "syntactic sugar" solution.

Create a class named MyResult that way:

	' Class MyResult

	Private $hResult As Result

	Static Public _call(hResult As Result) As MyResult

		Dim hMyResult As MyResult = New MyResult(hResult)
		Return hMyResult

	End

	Public Sub _new(hResult As Result)

	  $hResult = hResult

	End

	Public Sub _get(Index As Integer) As Result

	  $hResult.MoveTo(Index)
	  return $hResult

	End

Then use it that way:

	Dim hMyResult As MyResult

	hMyResult = MyResult(DB.Exec("SELECT * FROM ..."))

	Print hMyResult[0][Field]
	Print hMyResult[1][Field]
	...

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 12 11:57:03 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:57:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
In-Reply-To: <1283974545.2921.1.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283974545.2921.1.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009121157.03955.gambas@...1...>

> Hi.
> 
> There is the possibility to compile the executable gbx2 with option
> -static.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarz?a F
> 

Are you sure? Do you have more details?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 12 11:58:28 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:58:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Console in Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <4C87EB14.7080002@...221...>
References: <4C87EB14.7080002@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009121158.28468.gambas@...1...>

> Wouldn't it be a good idea to show the console by default?
> 1. I had some difficulties to find out how it could be shown
> 2. I was surprised about the messages in it...
> Regards
> Matti
> 

What do you mean "by default" and "I was surprised"?. The console is always 
there. It is automatically opened during debugging, and it is closed when the 
program ends only if it was closed before running it.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Sep 12 12:15:39 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:15:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Console in Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <201009121158.28468.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C87EB14.7080002@...221...>
	<201009121158.28468.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinH4R6LwhZEsedy_JqnXeGtwimR8phSMEO-3xUp@...627...>

Have you screenshot ? and what about kind of console  do you talk...
the internal one (witch is alway present in the tab at the bottom of
the ide) or the external one witch can be actived via the options .?.

What are the stranges messages ?

what is your distro/desktop ?

Le 12 septembre 2010 11:58, Beno?t Minisini
<gambas at ...1...> a ?crit :
>> Wouldn't it be a good idea to show the console by default?
>> 1. I had some difficulties to find out how it could be shown
>> 2. I was surprised about the messages in it...
>> Regards
>> Matti
>>
>
> What do you mean "by default" and "I was surprised"?. The console is always
> there. It is automatically opened during debugging, and it is closed when the
> program ends only if it was closed before running it.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
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From rolf.frogs at ...221...  Sun Sep 12 17:43:07 2010
From: rolf.frogs at ...221... (Rolf Schmidt)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 17:43:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <201009121152.40035.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
	<201009121152.40035.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <201009121743.13149.rolf.frogs@...221...>

Hi Beno?t

> But I don't think I can change the interface anymore, it will break a lot
> of code. Unless someone finds an unexpected solution.

What about a property, which indicate how the result should be delivered. For 
example in PHP Database Objects you can give a value that says how the data 
should be given back.
Possible types (and some more) are:
ASSOC for an associative array with the fieldnames as key
NUM as a numerical index into the array of fields
CLASS says the the result shoud be given back as a new object of a give class
    with members which are named as the fields of the query.

Of course, if non of the above listed property is given, the old behavior of 
the gambas database resultset should take place.

May be this gives you an idea.
Fine regards
Rolf
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From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Sun Sep 12 18:04:33 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (tobias)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:04:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik3shBoqPCrJYnmppHit9EVh3-PbpT9gH2gEbfK@...627...>
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hi,

> The biggest help for him will be to read a sql book :)... it was for
> me the only way to quit the M$ ADO in the past. But gb.db and result
> is suffisely powerfull to manage most part of the db capabilities in a
> first time . Then he can learn sql do to more.
> 
> 
> All depend of the project ... for a little project with 10  to 10000
> entry ... sqlite is good enouth. For more take a look to mysql or
> postgresql ... i'm agree with richard , postgre is powerfull ... (Both
> are good enouth for non professionnal in fact)
> 
> 2010/9/12 Caveat <Gambas at ...1950...>:
>> Hi Tobias
>>
>> I can understand your frustration, programming with databases is not so
>> simple in the beginning and there are some new concepts to get your head
>> around.  I think the Result object is quite often misunderstood and
>> people often ask:
>>
>> "Why can't the SQL stuff return something simple I can understand, like
>> an Array (or a Collection if you've gone a little further in Gambas), in
>> place of this complicated Result object?"
>>
>> Before answering these questions, it's probably a good idea to start
>> with an analogy, and hopefully by the time I'm done, you won't need the
>> answer you thought you needed.
>>
>> Let's imagine you've placed an ad for a job in the local paper and a few
>> people turn up for the interview.  No problem, you just ask everyone
>> into your little interview room, you go through the candidates and
>> choose one.
>>
>> Now let's imagine you've placed an ad for a job as a lady's underwear
>> salesman.  Suddenly you have thousands of applicants and they won't fit
>> into your little interview room (hint: memory!).  So you place your
>> thousands of applicants in the local sports hall (hint: database!) and
>> employ an assistant whose job it is to go and fetch the Next candidate
>> from the sports hall and bring them to your little interview room.  You
>> process each applicant in your little interview room and leave it to
>> your assistant (hint: Result!) to keep track of who you've already seen,
>> who's Next on the list, and to let you know when you've interviewed all
>> the candidates.
>>
>> I hope it's clear from this somewhat imperfect analogy that a Result
>> object doesn't hold all the records you've selected in memory and only
>> provides a mechanism for looking at each record matching your criteria
>> in turn.
>>
>> Databases are designed to hold huge numbers of records (think of the
>> government, a car manufacturer, a utility company...) often running into
>> the millions of records.  If you got into the habit of reading all the
>> records you've selected into memory (or even if the Result object worked
>> that way behind the scenes...), you'd soon find everything breaking with
>> Out Of Memory errors as soon as you start doing anything serious.
>>
>> Now we've cleared all that up, let's look at just how simple the Result
>> object can be (we have a candidates table, with columns like name,
>> canReadAndWrite, address, date of birth etc.):
>>
>> Once you've established a Connection to your database, let's say in
>> myConn...
>>
>> Dim sql as String
>> Dim name as String
>> Dim canReadAndWrite as String
>> Dim candidateList as Result
>> sql = "select name, canReadAndWrite from candidates"
>> candidateList = myConn.Exec(sql)
>> ' This is the important line... see how simple it can be to navigate
>> round a Result object
>> FOR EACH candidateList
>>        name = candidateList["name"]
>>        canReadAndWrite = candidateList["canReadAndWrite"]
>>        IF Ucase$(canReadAndWrite) = "YES" THEN
>>                Print "Candidate " & name & " selected!"
>>        ELSE
>>                Print "Candidate " & name & " NOT selected!"
>>        END IF
>> NEXT
>>
>> Ignoring all the obvious flaws in my example ("Why didn't you just add a
>> WHERE clause to preselect only the candidates who can read and write?",
>> "Why do you have a canReadAndWrite column in place of 2 separate canRead
>> and canWrite columns?", "Why isn't canReadAndWrite a boolean?") it does
>> hopefully serve to illustrate just how simple dealing with Result
>> objects can be:
>>
>> 1. You write your SQL statement String
>> 2. You assign your Result object to the return from myConn.Exec(String)
>> 3. You process each record inside a FOR EACH... NEXT on your Result
>>
>> Hope this helps a little
>> Regards,
>> Caveat
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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wow, why didn't i receive the quoted message from Caveat??
this really helped me out of this problem.

@richard: no, postgresql is no possibility because my skilled labour 
should be written according to its topic: gambas + sqlite3 ;)

@benoit: thanks for the class but i think it would be better to use the 
plain gambas for the labour :)
well, looking at Caveat's explanation, an array won't be an improvement 
and i won't need your class, i just wanted to know, why this is the way 
a result is stored.

thanks a lot,
tobi



From prog at ...2177...  Sun Sep 12 18:50:55 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:50:55 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
In-Reply-To: <201009121157.03955.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283974545.2921.1.camel@...2406...>
	<201009121157.03955.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1284310255.4802.2.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
Fecha: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:57:03 +0200

> Hi.
> 
> There is the possibility to compile the executable gbx2 with option
> -static.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarz?a F
> 

>Are you sure? Do you have more details?

Sorry,It was not a conclusion.It was a question. I miss the caracter ?

Regards

Cristian Abarzua F





From prog at ...2177...  Sun Sep 12 18:54:56 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:54:56 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing component GB.INFO
In-Reply-To: <201009121133.01451.gambas@...1...>
References: <1284243629.5064.16.camel@...2406...>
	<201009121133.01451.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1284310496.4802.3.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing component GB.INFO
Fecha: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:33:01 +0200

> [GB.INFO]
> 
> Testing in Gambas3 Rev 3206 and Gambas 2.21.
> SO: Ubuntu 9.10 i386
> 
> * Create proyect GTK.
> * Add Control Listview
> * Add three controls Button.
> * Add Class Class1
> * Add two forms.
> 
> 
> * Code in Button1:
> 
>   Dim x As Byte
> 
>   For x = 0 To Info.Classes.Count - 1
>    ListView1.Add(x, Info.Classes[x])
>   Next
> 
>   Result: No Class are displayed in Listview.
> 
> *Code in Button 2:
> 
>   Dim x As Byte
> 
>   For x = 0 To Info.forms.Count - 1
>    ListView1.Add(x, Info.forms[x])
>   Next
> 
>   Result: No forms are displayed in Listview
> 
> **Code in Button 3:
> 
>   Dim x As Byte
> 
>   For x = 0 To Info.forms.components - 1
>    ListView1.Add(x, Info.components[x])
>   Next
> 
>   Result: gb,gb.cairo,gb.chart.....etc. Good.
> 
> Console displays the following output when running the program.
> 
> ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
> ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
> ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
> ComponentInfo.ComponentInfo.0: gb.Text
> ....
> ....
> 
> Is this correct?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F.
> 

>Thanks for the report. In (3) the message is just a warning for a deprecated 
>constant. 'gb.Text' must be replaced by 'gb.IgnoreCase'.

>Anyway it's far better if you can provide a Gambas project instead of 
>describing the code, because then it's faster for me, and I am sure that I 
>reproduce exactly the same code in the same context than you!

>Regards,

Ok.Here goes.


Regards

Cristian Abarzua F
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From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Sun Sep 12 20:19:32 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (tobias)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:19:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <201009121152.40035.gambas@...1...>
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hi,

another question about the databases and gambas to the developers:
how do i have to imagine exactly the interaction between the (sqlite) 
driver and my gambas program? what exactly is this 'driver'? is it just 
a kind of library? (sorry, i'm not so good at this level and i never had 
to do anything with drivers)

regards,
tobi



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Sep 12 20:27:45 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:27:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <4C8D19B4.1040501@...20...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
	<201009121152.40035.gambas@...1...>
	<4C8D19B4.1040501@...20...>
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It's a kind of lbrary ... you select gb.db in thecomponents.


then

private hcon as new connection


Publc sub Main()

  hCon.type = "sqlite3"
  hCon.Host=user.home &/ "dbpath"
  hcon.Name = "mydatabase"
  hcon.open

end

2010/9/12 tobias <tobiasboe1 at ...20...>:
> hi,
>
> another question about the databases and gambas to the developers:
> how do i have to imagine exactly the interaction between the (sqlite)
> driver and my gambas program? what exactly is this 'driver'? is it just
> a kind of library? (sorry, i'm not so good at this level and i never had
> to do anything with drivers)
>
> regards,
> tobi
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Sun Sep 12 21:33:16 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (tobias)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:33:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikZJi44+gUsnk-1+=MV49_o1x+RZ7Vg20y4Npna@...627...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>	<201009121152.40035.gambas@...1...>	<4C8D19B4.1040501@...20...>
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Message-ID: <4C8D2AFC.6050702@...20...>

hi,

> It's a kind of lbrary ... you select gb.db in thecomponents.
> 
> 
> then
> 
> private hcon as new connection
> 
> 
> Publc sub Main()
> 
>   hCon.type = "sqlite3"
>   hCon.Host=user.home &/ "dbpath"
>   hcon.Name = "mydatabase"
>   hcon.open
> 
> end
> 

yeah, so this 'kind of library' it loaded by the gambas component (?) 
loader and there are the several sqlite3 functionalities for my program?

regards,
tobi



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Sep 12 21:52:38 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:52:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <4C8D2AFC.6050702@...20...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
	<201009121152.40035.gambas@...1...>
	<4C8D19B4.1040501@...20...>
	<AANLkTikZJi44+gUsnk-1+=MV49_o1x+RZ7Vg20y4Npna@...627...>
	<4C8D2AFC.6050702@...20...>
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2010/9/12 tobias <tobiasboe1 at ...20...>:
> hi,
>
>> It's a kind of lbrary ... you select gb.db in thecomponents.
>>
>>
>> then
>>
>> private hcon as new connection
>>
>>
>> Publc sub Main()
>>
>> ? hCon.type = "sqlite3"
>> ? hCon.Host=user.home &/ "dbpath"
>> ? hcon.Name = "mydatabase"
>> ? hcon.open
>>
>> end
>>
>
> yeah, so this 'kind of library' it loaded by the gambas component (?)
> loader and there are the several sqlite3 functionalities for my program?
it"s a layer that use sql queries in background ... The same
functionalities are usable with all database type managed by gb.db
(mysql, postgresql, sqlite,odbc, firebird)
>
> regards,
> tobi
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From math.eber at ...221...  Sun Sep 12 22:00:28 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:00:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Console in Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinH4R6LwhZEsedy_JqnXeGtwimR8phSMEO-3xUp@...627...>
References: <4C87EB14.7080002@...221...>	<201009121158.28468.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTinH4R6LwhZEsedy_JqnXeGtwimR8phSMEO-3xUp@...627...>
Message-ID: <4C8D315C.2080902@...221...>

I mean the internal console window at the bottom of the IDE. It had vanished
here since I don't know what svn-update.
The messages were about silly errors in my project...

Forget it - if the window should be there by default, it's ok. I will keep an
eye on it and tell you more in case it's not shown again.

Matti


Am 12.09.2010 12:15, schrieb Fabien Bodard:
> Have you screenshot ? and what about kind of console  do you talk...
> the internal one (witch is alway present in the tab at the bottom of
> the ide) or the external one witch can be actived via the options .?.
> 
> What are the stranges messages ?
> 
> what is your distro/desktop ?
> 
> Le 12 septembre 2010 11:58, Beno?t Minisini
> <gambas at ...1...> a ?crit :
>>> Wouldn't it be a good idea to show the console by default?
>>> 1. I had some difficulties to find out how it could be shown
>>> 2. I was surprised about the messages in it...
>>> Regards
>>> Matti
>>>
>>
>> What do you mean "by default" and "I was surprised"?. The console is always
>> there. It is automatically opened during debugging, and it is closed when the
>> program ends only if it was closed before running it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
> 
> 
> 



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 12 22:15:22 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:15:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Form.Enabled = False
In-Reply-To: <4C8933DB.6080109@...221...>
References: <4C8933DB.6080109@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009122215.22838.gambas@...1...>

> Gambas 3
> Trying to show a modal window that has to be closed before other windows
> can do anything.
> "Fxy.ShowModal" is not useable, because the form should be placed somewhere
> and not be centered relative to the desktop (why is a modal window
> centered and can't be moved?)

Because modal windows are dialog windows, and it's a common practice to always 
center them on screen.

> So I tried to disable the underlying form FMain. I understand Enable =
> False as: the form is inactive and doesn't accept any inputs. But I got
> funny results. Most of the controls are inactive, some not.
> See example.

Yes, it is not clearly explained on the wiki: native events, i.e. events 
defined in the Control class (MouseUp, MouseDown, MouseMove, KeyPress, 
KeyRelease, Enter, Leave...) are always raised, whatever the value of the 
Enabled property.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Sun Sep 12 23:09:32 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:09:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Form.Enabled = False
In-Reply-To: <201009122215.22838.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C8933DB.6080109@...221...>
	<201009122215.22838.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C8D418C.3070202@...221...>

But, what is the benefit of Enabled = False then?
If the control or window is only partly disabled, and the user can do a lot of
things with it?
Is there no property or method to "really" disable and don't allow the user to
do something?

Am 12.09.2010 22:15, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> Yes, it is not clearly explained on the wiki: native events, i.e. events 
> defined in the Control class (MouseUp, MouseDown, MouseMove, KeyPress, 
> KeyRelease, Enter, Leave...) are always raised, whatever the value of the 
> Enabled property.
> 
> Regards,
> 



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sun Sep 12 23:25:50 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:25:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Console in Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <4C8D315C.2080902@...221...>
References: <4C87EB14.7080002@...221...>
	<201009121158.28468.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTinH4R6LwhZEsedy_JqnXeGtwimR8phSMEO-3xUp@...627...>
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just remove the .conf file in ~/.config/gambas3


2010/9/12 Matti <math.eber at ...221...>:
> I mean the internal console window at the bottom of the IDE. It had vanished
> here since I don't know what svn-update.
> The messages were about silly errors in my project...
>
> Forget it - if the window should be there by default, it's ok. I will keep an
> eye on it and tell you more in case it's not shown again.
>
> Matti
>
>
> Am 12.09.2010 12:15, schrieb Fabien Bodard:
>> Have you screenshot ? and what about kind of console ?do you talk...
>> the internal one (witch is alway present in the tab at the bottom of
>> the ide) or the external one witch can be actived via the options .?.
>>
>> What are the stranges messages ?
>>
>> what is your distro/desktop ?
>>
>> Le 12 septembre 2010 11:58, Beno?t Minisini
>> <gambas at ...1...> a ?crit :
>>>> Wouldn't it be a good idea to show the console by default?
>>>> 1. I had some difficulties to find out how it could be shown
>>>> 2. I was surprised about the messages in it...
>>>> Regards
>>>> Matti
>>>>
>>>
>>> What do you mean "by default" and "I was surprised"?. The console is always
>>> there. It is automatically opened during debugging, and it is closed when the
>>> program ends only if it was closed before running it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Beno?t Minisini
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Gambas-user mailing list
>>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 13 00:14:22 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:14:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Form.Enabled = False
In-Reply-To: <4C8D418C.3070202@...221...>
References: <4C8933DB.6080109@...221...>
	<201009122215.22838.gambas@...1...>
	<4C8D418C.3070202@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009130014.22413.gambas@...1...>

> But, what is the benefit of Enabled = False then?
> If the control or window is only partly disabled, and the user can do a lot
> of things with it?

The user should not be able to do anything with it. You decide, as you 
implement the event handler.

Native events are low level, lower than the Enabled property. But if a 
disabled control raises a non-native event, it should be a bug!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Mon Sep 13 00:40:27 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:40:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Form.Enabled = False
In-Reply-To: <201009130014.22413.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C8933DB.6080109@...221...>	<201009122215.22838.gambas@...1...>	<4C8D418C.3070202@...221...>
	<201009130014.22413.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C8D56DB.3090700@...221...>

Sorry, I don't understand.
How can I "implement the event handler"?
Confused
Matti

Am 13.09.2010 00:14, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> But, what is the benefit of Enabled = False then?
>> If the control or window is only partly disabled, and the user can do a lot
>> of things with it?
> 
> The user should not be able to do anything with it. You decide, as you 
> implement the event handler.
> 
> Native events are low level, lower than the Enabled property. But if a 
> disabled control raises a non-native event, it should be a bug!
> 



From Gambas at ...1950...  Mon Sep 13 02:31:28 2010
From: Gambas at ...1950... (Caveat)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 02:31:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Database Results
In-Reply-To: <4C8D2AFC.6050702@...20...>
References: <4C8BC7F5.9090506@...20...>
	<201009121152.40035.gambas@...1...>	<4C8D19B4.1040501@...20...>
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	<4C8D2AFC.6050702@...20...>
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Hi Tobias

Fabien is correct in saying it's a kind of library.

For Gambas2 in my Ubuntu installation, the following libraries are
automatically installed along with Gambas2:

gambas2-gb-db
gambas2-gb-db-postgresql
gambas2-gb-db-firebird
gambas2-gb-db-mysql
gambas2-gb-db-form
gambas2-gb-db-odbc
gambas2-gb-db-sqlite

gb-db is the common library for database access
gb-db-postgresql, ...firebird, ...mysql, ...odbc, ...sqlite libraries
are the specific 'drivers'
gb-db-form handles Gambas database-bound controls

The driver normally handles the specifics of talking to the particular
database so that your code all looks the same, regardless of which
database you're talking to.  So whether it's for mysql, sqlite,
postgre...you just code:

Dim myConnection as NEW Connection
...
myConnection.Open
...
myConnection.Exec("select * from candidates")

The properties you set on the Connection, and specifically the Type
determine which database in particular you will be talking to.

My connect function looks something like:

PUBLIC FUNCTION connect2db() AS Boolean
  WITH myConnection
    .Type = "mysql"
    .Host = "192.168.2.188"
    .Port = 3306
    .Login = "dbuser"
    .Password = "db25$4klln"
    .Name = "recruiting"
  END WITH
  TRY myConnection.Open
  IF ERROR THEN
    Message("Cannot Open recruiting database:" & Error.Text)
    RETURN FALSE
  END IF
  RETURN TRUE
END

Under the covers, the specific driver for mysql may convert the
myConnection.Open into (completely made-up fictitious nonsense code
follows):

MySQLConnectionObject mysqlConn = CALL MySQL.openDatabase(Login:
{name:password}, Host: {host}, Port: {port})

and for postgresql it may look nothing at all like:

postgresql.connection = CALL postgresql.openDB(ConnectURL:
{name:password at ...2480...:port})

The only thing you need to be aware of (and only if you plan on making
your code portable from one db to another...actually not a bad idea) is
the small differences in SQL syntax that the different databases support
and the different ways in which different databases may interpret your
SQL.

For example for HSQLDB (this is a beautiful thing, written in java,
6.5Mb download for a complete db with graphical client!) you might say:

select concat(count(distinct name), '->B5') as ForCell from candidates
where upper(canReadAndWrite) = 'YES'

but for SQL Server (sorry, I'm forced to use 'doze for my work!) you
have to say:

select str(count (distinct name)) + '->B5' as ForCell from candidates
where upper(canReadAndWrite) = 'YES'

I've also been surprised by the same query returning different results
in different databases.  ISTR something like SQL Server being
case-insensitive by default, and HSQLDB not... so running the same
"select count(distinct name) from candidates" query resulted in
different counts!

Hope this helps, and that you get this this time around (I put you on cc
so maybe you get 2 copies for the price of one) :-)

Regards,
Caveat


On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 21:33 +0200, tobias wrote:
> hi,
> 
> > It's a kind of lbrary ... you select gb.db in thecomponents.
> > 
> > 
> > then
> > 
> > private hcon as new connection
> > 
> > 
> > Publc sub Main()
> > 
> >   hCon.type = "sqlite3"
> >   hCon.Host=user.home &/ "dbpath"
> >   hcon.Name = "mydatabase"
> >   hcon.open
> > 
> > end
> > 
> 
> yeah, so this 'kind of library' it loaded by the gambas component (?) 
> loader and there are the several sqlite3 functionalities for my program?
> 
> regards,
> tobi
> 
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From shanep at ...2481...  Mon Sep 13 14:05:49 2010
From: shanep at ...2481... (Shane)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:05:49 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Frame
Message-ID: <4C8E139D.6010301@...2481...>

Hi everyone

I'm using the latest svn of gambas3 and was wondering where the border 
property
for the frame control has gone?



From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 13 14:46:49 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:46:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Frame
In-Reply-To: <4C8E139D.6010301@...2481...>
References: <4C8E139D.6010301@...2481...>
Message-ID: <201009131446.49691.gambas@...1...>

> Hi everyone
> 
> I'm using the latest svn of gambas3 and was wondering where the border
> property
> for the frame control has gone?
> 

The frame is drawn by the toolkit, not by Gambas, so I think it has gone 
because of your widget style.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From shanep at ...2481...  Mon Sep 13 14:58:36 2010
From: shanep at ...2481... (Shane)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:58:36 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Frame
In-Reply-To: <201009131446.49691.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C8E139D.6010301@...2481...>
	<201009131446.49691.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C8E1FFC.7070008@...2481...>

On 13/09/10 22:46, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I'm using the latest svn of gambas3 and was wondering where the border
>> property
>> for the frame control has gone?
>>
>>      
> The frame is drawn by the toolkit, not by Gambas, so I think it has gone
> because of your widget style.
>
> Regards,
>
>    
Hi Benoit
Not sure I know what you mean. how do I change my widget style ?




From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep 13 15:06:22 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:06:22 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Frame
In-Reply-To: <4C8E1FFC.7070008@...2481...>
References: <4C8E139D.6010301@...2481...>
	<201009131446.49691.gambas@...1...>
	<4C8E1FFC.7070008@...2481...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=q8uSaaPAhr3hd51WTCv1HFHrapDGgQWopyyN5@...627...>

2010/9/13 Shane <shanep at ...2481...>:
> On 13/09/10 22:46, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> I'm using the latest svn of gambas3 and was wondering where the border
>>> property
>>> for the frame control has gone?
>>>
>>>
>> The frame is drawn by the toolkit, not by Gambas, so I think it has gone
>> because of your widget style.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
> Hi Benoit
> Not sure I know what you mean. how do I change my widget style ?
by changing the kde theme !

And just to talk ... this problem have been signaled... near to 34 time now...

Benoit is it possible to add this in the faq ?

>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
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From lord.quo at ...626...  Mon Sep 13 18:47:12 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:47:12 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reserved words
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=q8uSaaPAhr3hd51WTCv1HFHrapDGgQWopyyN5@...627...>
References: <4C8E139D.6010301@...2481...><201009131446.49691.gambas@...1...><4C8E1FFC.7070008@...2481...>
	<AANLkTi=q8uSaaPAhr3hd51WTCv1HFHrapDGgQWopyyN5@...627...>
Message-ID: <7441A185C2C249CC9C5B6B2069994195@...2471...>

    Hi all,

    is there a location where I can view all the Gambas reserved words?

    Thanks

___________________________
Lic. Daniel Quintero Rojas

http://www.dquinter.com.mx 
___________________________
 



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep 13 19:08:07 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:08:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reserved words
In-Reply-To: <7441A185C2C249CC9C5B6B2069994195@...2471...>
References: <4C8E139D.6010301@...2481...>
	<201009131446.49691.gambas@...1...>
	<4C8E1FFC.7070008@...2481...>
	<AANLkTi=q8uSaaPAhr3hd51WTCv1HFHrapDGgQWopyyN5@...627...>
	<7441A185C2C249CC9C5B6B2069994195@...2471...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik4nZC72eOqJXBHyWAHuicq0iPf+G=zTfPOVpX3@...627...>

in the doc ?

http://gambasdoc.org

2010/9/13 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
> ? ?Hi all,
>
> ? ?is there a location where I can view all the Gambas reserved words?
>
> ? ?Thanks
>
> ___________________________
> Lic. Daniel Quintero Rojas
>
> http://www.dquinter.com.mx
> ___________________________
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From wdahn at ...1000...  Mon Sep 13 19:11:10 2010
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 01:11:10 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reserved words
In-Reply-To: <7441A185C2C249CC9C5B6B2069994195@...2471...>
References: <4C8E139D.6010301@...2481...><201009131446.49691.gambas@...1...><4C8E1FFC.7070008@...2481...>	<AANLkTi=q8uSaaPAhr3hd51WTCv1HFHrapDGgQWopyyN5@...627...>
	<7441A185C2C249CC9C5B6B2069994195@...2471...>
Message-ID: <4C8E5B2E.5060004@...1000...>

On 14/09/10 00:47, Lord Quo wrote:
>     Hi all,
>
>     is there a location where I can view all the Gambas reserved words?
>
>     Thanks
>   
At http://gambasdoc.org/help/lang
the Index by Name is propably what you want.

Regards
Werner




From lord.quo at ...626...  Mon Sep 13 19:17:39 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:17:39 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reserved words
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik4nZC72eOqJXBHyWAHuicq0iPf+G=zTfPOVpX3@...627...>
References: <4C8E139D.6010301@...2481...><201009131446.49691.gambas@...1...><4C8E1FFC.7070008@...2481...><AANLkTi=q8uSaaPAhr3hd51WTCv1HFHrapDGgQWopyyN5@...627...><7441A185C2C249CC9C5B6B2069994195@...2471...>
	<AANLkTik4nZC72eOqJXBHyWAHuicq0iPf+G=zTfPOVpX3@...627...>
Message-ID: <5D1EAC3380F74E148D2A286BDA75D0CA@...2471...>

    Yes, but today I'm little slow and I can't find it.    :-/

    Thanks.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Fabien Bodard" <gambas.fr at ...626...>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:08 PM
To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Reserved words

> in the doc ?
>
> http://gambasdoc.org
>
> 2010/9/13 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
>>    Hi all,
>>
>>    is there a location where I can view all the Gambas reserved words?
>>
>>    Thanks
>>
>> ___________________________
>> Lic. Daniel Quintero Rojas
>>
>> http://www.dquinter.com.mx
>> ___________________________
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Fabien Bodard
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
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> 



From lord.quo at ...626...  Mon Sep 13 19:18:47 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:18:47 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Reserved words
In-Reply-To: <4C8E5B2E.5060004@...1000...>
References: <4C8E139D.6010301@...2481...><201009131446.49691.gambas@...1...><4C8E1FFC.7070008@...2481...>	<AANLkTi=q8uSaaPAhr3hd51WTCv1HFHrapDGgQWopyyN5@...627...><7441A185C2C249CC9C5B6B2069994195@...2471...>
	<4C8E5B2E.5060004@...1000...>
Message-ID: <6056C2DF76BD4283949303E18897CB42@...2471...>

    Ahhh, ok, thanks

    :-)

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Werner" <wdahn at ...1000...>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:11 PM
To: <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Reserved words

> On 14/09/10 00:47, Lord Quo wrote:
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     is there a location where I can view all the Gambas reserved words?
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
> At http://gambasdoc.org/help/lang
> the Index by Name is propably what you want.
>
> Regards
> Werner
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 



From lord.quo at ...626...  Mon Sep 13 20:29:07 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:29:07 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dim :: Another newbie question
Message-ID: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...>

    Hi again,

    Local variables are declared with Dim, but, they need to be declared at top of the Sub procedure?

    Thanks

___________________________
Lic. Daniel Quintero Rojas

http://www.dquinter.com.mx 
___________________________


From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Mon Sep 13 20:46:06 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (tobias)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:46:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dim :: Another newbie question
In-Reply-To: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...>
Message-ID: <4C8E716E.8090700@...20...>

hi,

>     Hi again,
> 
>     Local variables are declared with Dim, but, they need to be declared at top of the Sub procedure?
> 
>     Thanks
> 
> ___________________________
> Lic. Daniel Quintero Rojas
> 
> http://www.dquinter.com.mx 
> ___________________________
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user

well, yes just try it out ;)
i don't know the reason, but i think, it's the same because the gambas 
predefined classes are that dynamic that you shouldn't have to allocate 
them with a dynamic value, but if you really have to do that, you may 
use this function:
Pointer = Alloc ( Size AS Integer [ , Count AS Integer ] )
(see gambas documentation)

regards,
tobi



From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 13 20:58:27 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:58:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <1284075565.32706.17.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009100125.12509.gambas@...1...>
	<1284075565.32706.17.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009132058.28030.gambas@...1...>

> 
> Ok. Now I understand.
> 
> With regard to the installer, I send you some screens to see if you
> like. This installer would be separated from Gambas3, because the code
> is heavily commented, and I have delayed a lot in trying to understand.
> I'm still stuck trying to run the executable with another version of
> glibc, but nothing.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua

Hi Cristian,

I like the name, "canner". But it will be better if you make a command-line 
tool to can gambas projects, and do the GUI on top on this command-line tool.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From wdahn at ...1000...  Mon Sep 13 21:12:28 2010
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 03:12:28 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dim :: Another newbie question
In-Reply-To: <4C8E716E.8090700@...20...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...>
	<4C8E716E.8090700@...20...>
Message-ID: <4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>

On 14/09/10 02:46, tobias wrote:
> hi,
>
>   
>>     Hi again,
>>
>>     Local variables are declared with Dim, but, they need to be declared at top of the Sub procedure?
>>
>>     Thanks
>>     
That is correct.




From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep 13 21:55:20 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:55:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dim :: Another newbie question
In-Reply-To: <4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...>
	<4C8E716E.8090700@...20...> <4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...>

2010/9/13 Werner <wdahn at ...1000...>:
> On 14/09/10 02:46, tobias wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>>
>>> ? ? Hi again,
>>>
>>> ? ? Local variables are declared with Dim, but, they need to be declared at top of the Sub procedure?
for one reason :
To have more clean program !
>>>
>>> ? ? Thanks
>>>
> That is correct.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
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From lord.quo at ...626...  Mon Sep 13 23:00:23 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:00:23 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dim :: Another newbie question
In-Reply-To: <4C8E716E.8090700@...20...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...>
	<4C8E716E.8090700@...20...>
Message-ID: <E4F681F5EA4C41C2B9BBA34155A68670@...2471...>

    I tried and its correct, the Dim declaration must be declared at top of 
the procedure.

    Thanks all.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "tobias" <tobiasboe1 at ...20...>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:46 PM
To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Dim :: Another newbie question

> hi,
>
>>     Hi again,
>>
>>     Local variables are declared with Dim, but, they need to be declared 
>> at top of the Sub procedure?
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>> ___________________________
>> Lic. Daniel Quintero Rojas
>>
>> http://www.dquinter.com.mx
>> ___________________________
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>
> well, yes just try it out ;)
> i don't know the reason, but i think, it's the same because the gambas
> predefined classes are that dynamic that you shouldn't have to allocate
> them with a dynamic value, but if you really have to do that, you may
> use this function:
> Pointer = Alloc ( Size AS Integer [ , Count AS Integer ] )
> (see gambas documentation)
>
> regards,
> tobi
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 



From lord.quo at ...626...  Mon Sep 13 23:00:37 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:00:37 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dim :: Another newbie question
In-Reply-To: <4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...><4C8E716E.8090700@...20...>
	<4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>
Message-ID: <181796D99CE64807B3B756186AA164E8@...2471...>

    Thanks.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Werner" <wdahn at ...1000...>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:12 PM
To: <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Dim :: Another newbie question

> On 14/09/10 02:46, tobias wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>>
>>>     Hi again,
>>>
>>>     Local variables are declared with Dim, but, they need to be declared 
>>> at top of the Sub procedure?
>>>
>>>     Thanks
>>>
> That is correct.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 



From lord.quo at ...626...  Mon Sep 13 23:05:23 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:05:23 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Dim :: Another newbie question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...><4C8E716E.8090700@...20...>
	<4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>
	<AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...>
Message-ID: <50CD426E2FC041949C40D083EE210714@...2471...>

    Ok, in the words of Pistachon (child mexican character): "understood and 
annotated"

    Regards.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Fabien Bodard" <gambas.fr at ...626...>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:55 PM
To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Dim :: Another newbie question

> 2010/9/13 Werner <wdahn at ...1000...>:
>> On 14/09/10 02:46, tobias wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>>     Hi again,
>>>>
>>>>     Local variables are declared with Dim, but, they need to be 
>>>> declared at top of the Sub procedure?
> for one reason :
> To have more clean program !
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks
>>>>
>> That is correct.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Fabien Bodard
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 



From lord.quo at ...626...  Tue Sep 14 01:26:14 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:26:14 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...><4C8E716E.8090700@...20...>
	<4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>
	<AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...>
Message-ID: <FB27ED61FE544384B6DA1A220D553E92@...2471...>

    Hi, again me  :-)

    Is there an easy way to document a Gambas program? Most are classes and 
modules.

    Thanks

___________________________
Lic. Daniel Quintero Rojas

http://www.dquinter.com.mx
___________________________
 




From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Sep 14 07:54:09 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:54:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
In-Reply-To: <FB27ED61FE544384B6DA1A220D553E92@...2471...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...>
	<4C8E716E.8090700@...20...> <4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>
	<AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...>
	<FB27ED61FE544384B6DA1A220D553E92@...2471...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinRzGPgCvR8uwrhooN7-Dh6Y9NTfG7esbf-UNUY@...627...>

to document the code or the program itself ?

2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
> ? ?Hi, again me ?:-)
>
> ? ?Is there an easy way to document a Gambas program? Most are classes and
> modules.
>
> ? ?Thanks
>
> ___________________________
> Lic. Daniel Quintero Rojas
>
> http://www.dquinter.com.mx
> ___________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From lord.quo at ...626...  Tue Sep 14 16:40:14 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:40:14 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinRzGPgCvR8uwrhooN7-Dh6Y9NTfG7esbf-UNUY@...627...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...><4C8E716E.8090700@...20...>
	<4C8E779C.40004@...1000...><AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...><FB27ED61FE544384B6DA1A220D553E92@...2471...>
	<AANLkTinRzGPgCvR8uwrhooN7-Dh6Y9NTfG7esbf-UNUY@...627...>
Message-ID: <335F6AE9A56F4854BDF6EC41DF3DECFF@...2471...>

    Mmmm, the program, something like the wiki http://gambasdoc.org or the 
help that appears when I write code in the IDE. This help appears also with 
my own classes and modules.

    Thanks.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Fabien Bodard" <gambas.fr at ...626...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:54 AM
To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?

> to document the code or the program itself ?
>
> 2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
>>    Hi, again me  :-)
>>
>>    Is there an easy way to document a Gambas program? Most are classes 
>> and
>> modules.
>>
>>    Thanks
 




From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Sep 14 17:03:25 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:03:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
In-Reply-To: <335F6AE9A56F4854BDF6EC41DF3DECFF@...2471...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...>
	<4C8E716E.8090700@...20...> <4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>
	<AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...>
	<FB27ED61FE544384B6DA1A220D553E92@...2471...>
	<AANLkTinRzGPgCvR8uwrhooN7-Dh6Y9NTfG7esbf-UNUY@...627...>
	<335F6AE9A56F4854BDF6EC41DF3DECFF@...2471...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=FA_0MTepZ761ZQt+X0cuHD7j4EPUgy7in_mNh@...627...>

hum... there is a way to document you class in code with the ' '

'hi is a comment
''hi is a help line

help line must be between to class declaration or in the same line
for a variable declaration too
this is valid only in gb3 (and is not perfect)

Maybe we need to add an export function .... This tool have been done
to remember the  work done in the project.
What is this variable for ? or this class ?

2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
> ? ?Mmmm, the program, something like the wiki http://gambasdoc.org or the
> help that appears when I write code in the IDE. This help appears also with
> my own classes and modules.
>
> ? ?Thanks.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Fabien Bodard" <gambas.fr at ...626...>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:54 AM
> To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
>
>> to document the code or the program itself ?
>>
>> 2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
>>> ? ?Hi, again me ?:-)
>>>
>>> ? ?Is there an easy way to document a Gambas program? Most are classes
>>> and
>>> modules.
>>>
>>> ? ?Thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 14 17:15:16 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:15:16 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug in Qt4 and workaround
Message-ID: <201009141715.16776.gambas@...1...>

Hi,

For information:

There is (apparently) a bug in Qt4: if the last visible menu in the menu-bar 
is not the last created menu, i.e. if the last visible menu has other hidden 
menus to its right, then navigating between the top-level menu with the 
keyboard leads to a segfault.

The workaround is: the last created menu must be visible. And I guess the 
first one too!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From lord.quo at ...626...  Tue Sep 14 17:50:21 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:50:21 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=FA_0MTepZ761ZQt+X0cuHD7j4EPUgy7in_mNh@...627...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...><4C8E716E.8090700@...20...>
	<4C8E779C.40004@...1000...><AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...><FB27ED61FE544384B6DA1A220D553E92@...2471...><AANLkTinRzGPgCvR8uwrhooN7-Dh6Y9NTfG7esbf-UNUY@...627...><335F6AE9A56F4854BDF6EC41DF3DECFF@...2471...>
	<AANLkTi=FA_0MTepZ761ZQt+X0cuHD7j4EPUgy7in_mNh@...627...>
Message-ID: <86FEFE73ED654512B55CB2CF8BB98508@...2471...>

    Ok, I will try the ''. I have gambas 3, so, no problem.

    :-)

   Thanks.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Fabien Bodard" <gambas.fr at ...626...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:03 AM
To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?

> hum... there is a way to document you class in code with the ' '
>
> 'hi is a comment
> ''hi is a help line
>
> help line must be between to class declaration or in the same line
> for a variable declaration too
> this is valid only in gb3 (and is not perfect)
>
> Maybe we need to add an export function .... This tool have been done
> to remember the  work done in the project.
> What is this variable for ? or this class ?
>
> 2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
>>    Mmmm, the program, something like the wiki http://gambasdoc.org or the
>> help that appears when I write code in the IDE. This help appears also 
>> with
>> my own classes and modules.
>>
>>    Thanks.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Fabien Bodard" <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:54 AM
>> To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
>>
>>> to document the code or the program itself ?
>>>
>>> 2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
>>>>    Hi, again me  :-)
>>>>
>>>>    Is there an easy way to document a Gambas program? Most are classes
>>>> and
>>>> modules.
>>>>
>>>>    Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Fabien Bodard
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Tue Sep 14 19:10:03 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:10:03 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=FA_0MTepZ761ZQt+X0cuHD7j4EPUgy7in_mNh@...627...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...>
	<4C8E716E.8090700@...20...> <4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>
	<AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...>
	<FB27ED61FE544384B6DA1A220D553E92@...2471...>
	<AANLkTinRzGPgCvR8uwrhooN7-Dh6Y9NTfG7esbf-UNUY@...627...>
	<335F6AE9A56F4854BDF6EC41DF3DECFF@...2471...>
	<AANLkTi=FA_0MTepZ761ZQt+X0cuHD7j4EPUgy7in_mNh@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=TfjYCt0Cqd-nJmpa5vxVE38sJLPHNA2h2NE3X@...627...>

Nice, just learned this! Very useful!
Is it possible to do multi lined help lines?
Now they are concatenated without newlines:
''Line1
''Line2
-->
Line1 Line2

Jussi


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 18:03, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:

> hum... there is a way to document you class in code with the ' '
>
> 'hi is a comment
> ''hi is a help line
>
> help line must be between to class declaration or in the same line
> for a variable declaration too
> this is valid only in gb3 (and is not perfect)
>
> Maybe we need to add an export function .... This tool have been done
> to remember the  work done in the project.
> What is this variable for ? or this class ?
>
> 2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
> >    Mmmm, the program, something like the wiki http://gambasdoc.org or
> the
> > help that appears when I write code in the IDE. This help appears also
> with
> > my own classes and modules.
> >
> >    Thanks.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Fabien Bodard" <gambas.fr at ...626...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:54 AM
> > To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
> >
> >> to document the code or the program itself ?
> >>
> >> 2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
> >>>    Hi, again me  :-)
> >>>
> >>>    Is there an easy way to document a Gambas program? Most are classes
> >>> and
> >>> modules.
> >>>
> >>>    Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Fabien Bodard
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


From gambas.fr at ...626...  Tue Sep 14 19:29:20 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:29:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=TfjYCt0Cqd-nJmpa5vxVE38sJLPHNA2h2NE3X@...627...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...>
	<4C8E716E.8090700@...20...> <4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>
	<AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...>
	<FB27ED61FE544384B6DA1A220D553E92@...2471...>
	<AANLkTinRzGPgCvR8uwrhooN7-Dh6Y9NTfG7esbf-UNUY@...627...>
	<335F6AE9A56F4854BDF6EC41DF3DECFF@...2471...>
	<AANLkTi=FA_0MTepZ761ZQt+X0cuHD7j4EPUgy7in_mNh@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=TfjYCt0Cqd-nJmpa5vxVE38sJLPHNA2h2NE3X@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikj_=zYPOFGE9wTx-vY8ffoPVQ3qPcdV1tbqsMU@...627...>

normally it will work :/* (you can add a <br> at the line end)
the text is formatable with a wiki style

AN EXEMPLE :

'' +Description
'' Initialize a web browser view with the help on a specific symbol.
'' +Arguments
'' - #hWebView# is the WebView control to initialize.
'' - #iType# is the type of the symbol.
'' - #sSymbol# is the symbol.
'' - #sClass# is the class if the symbol is a member of this class.
'' - #sMore# is a suffix that will be added to the URL of the help page.
'' - #hEditor# is the source code editor that the symbol comes from.
'' +Symbol types
'' The #iType# argument can be one of the following constants, defined
in the MHelp module:
'' - =TYPE_NATIVE= for a native datatype.
'' - =TYPE_CLASS= for a class.
'' - =TYPE_CONTROL= for a control name.
'' - =TYPE_SYMBOL= for a class symbol, a local or a global variable.
'' - =TYPE_EVENT= for an event.
'' - =TYPE_KEYWORD= for a language keyword.
'' - =TYPE_SPECIAL= for a special method.

Public Sub InitWebViewWith(hWebView As WebView, iType As Integer,
sSymbol As String, Optional sClass As String, Optional sMore As
String, Optional hEditor As FEditor)

  Dim cSymbol As Collection
  Dim hSymbol As CSymbolInfo
  Dim hClass As CClassInfo
  Dim hComp As CComponent



2010/9/14 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>:
> Nice, just learned this! Very useful!
> Is it possible to do multi lined help lines?
> Now they are concatenated without newlines:
> ''Line1
> ''Line2
> -->
> Line1 Line2
>
> Jussi
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 18:03, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:
>
>> hum... there is a way to document you class in code with the ' '
>>
>> 'hi is a comment
>> ''hi is a help line
>>
>> help line must be between to class declaration or in the same line
>> for a variable declaration too
>> this is valid only in gb3 (and is not perfect)
>>
>> Maybe we need to add an export function .... This tool have been done
>> to remember the ?work done in the project.
>> What is this variable for ? or this class ?
>>
>> 2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
>> > ? ?Mmmm, the program, something like the wiki http://gambasdoc.org or
>> the
>> > help that appears when I write code in the IDE. This help appears also
>> with
>> > my own classes and modules.
>> >
>> > ? ?Thanks.
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------------
>> > From: "Fabien Bodard" <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:54 AM
>> > To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
>> >
>> >> to document the code or the program itself ?
>> >>
>> >> 2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
>> >>> ? ?Hi, again me ?:-)
>> >>>
>> >>> ? ?Is there an easy way to document a Gambas program? Most are classes
>> >>> and
>> >>> modules.
>> >>>
>> >>> ? ?Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Gambas-user mailing list
>> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fabien Bodard
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From lord.quo at ...626...  Tue Sep 14 20:02:50 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:02:50 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikj_=zYPOFGE9wTx-vY8ffoPVQ3qPcdV1tbqsMU@...627...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...><4C8E716E.8090700@...20...>
	<4C8E779C.40004@...1000...><AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...><FB27ED61FE544384B6DA1A220D553E92@...2471...><AANLkTinRzGPgCvR8uwrhooN7-Dh6Y9NTfG7esbf-UNUY@...627...><335F6AE9A56F4854BDF6EC41DF3DECFF@...2471...><AANLkTi=FA_0MTepZ761ZQt+X0cuHD7j4EPUgy7in_mNh@...627...><AANLkTi=TfjYCt0Cqd-nJmpa5vxVE38sJLPHNA2h2NE3X@...627...>
	<AANLkTikj_=zYPOFGE9wTx-vY8ffoPVQ3qPcdV1tbqsMU@...627...>
Message-ID: <482B13BFF0144EC38C02FDA7A8FFFC01@...2471...>

    Thanks! With this example is more clear to me.

    :-)

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Fabien Bodard" <gambas.fr at ...626...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:29 PM
To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?

> normally it will work :/* (you can add a <br> at the line end)
> the text is formatable with a wiki style
> 
> AN EXEMPLE :
> 
> '' +Description
> '' Initialize a web browser view with the help on a specific symbol.
> '' +Arguments
> '' - #hWebView# is the WebView control to initialize.
> '' - #iType# is the type of the symbol.
> '' - #sSymbol# is the symbol.
> '' - #sClass# is the class if the symbol is a member of this class.
> '' - #sMore# is a suffix that will be added to the URL of the help page.
> '' - #hEditor# is the source code editor that the symbol comes from.
> '' +Symbol types
> '' The #iType# argument can be one of the following constants, defined
> in the MHelp module:
> '' - =TYPE_NATIVE= for a native datatype.
> '' - =TYPE_CLASS= for a class.
> '' - =TYPE_CONTROL= for a control name.
> '' - =TYPE_SYMBOL= for a class symbol, a local or a global variable.
> '' - =TYPE_EVENT= for an event.
> '' - =TYPE_KEYWORD= for a language keyword.
> '' - =TYPE_SPECIAL= for a special method.
> 
> Public Sub InitWebViewWith(hWebView As WebView, iType As Integer,
> sSymbol As String, Optional sClass As String, Optional sMore As
> String, Optional hEditor As FEditor)
> 
>  Dim cSymbol As Collection
>  Dim hSymbol As CSymbolInfo
>  Dim hClass As CClassInfo
>  Dim hComp As CComponent
 



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Tue Sep 14 21:48:45 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:48:45 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikj_=zYPOFGE9wTx-vY8ffoPVQ3qPcdV1tbqsMU@...627...>
References: <2EFCBF6458D84ED995EDA52152C3FF25@...2471...>
	<4C8E716E.8090700@...20...> <4C8E779C.40004@...1000...>
	<AANLkTimoS_6SM4fKYE+waApgwpTncWgtt21XSURh3pRE@...627...>
	<FB27ED61FE544384B6DA1A220D553E92@...2471...>
	<AANLkTinRzGPgCvR8uwrhooN7-Dh6Y9NTfG7esbf-UNUY@...627...>
	<335F6AE9A56F4854BDF6EC41DF3DECFF@...2471...>
	<AANLkTi=FA_0MTepZ761ZQt+X0cuHD7j4EPUgy7in_mNh@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=TfjYCt0Cqd-nJmpa5vxVE38sJLPHNA2h2NE3X@...627...>
	<AANLkTikj_=zYPOFGE9wTx-vY8ffoPVQ3qPcdV1tbqsMU@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikbM+-Eva0YWBvHyqybT16Vu+nQXjqh+M2Z9OiK@...627...>

Thanks!

Jussi

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 20:29, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:

> normally it will work :/* (you can add a <br> at the line end)
> the text is formatable with a wiki style
>
> AN EXEMPLE :
>
> '' +Description
> '' Initialize a web browser view with the help on a specific symbol.
> '' +Arguments
> '' - #hWebView# is the WebView control to initialize.
> '' - #iType# is the type of the symbol.
> '' - #sSymbol# is the symbol.
> '' - #sClass# is the class if the symbol is a member of this class.
> '' - #sMore# is a suffix that will be added to the URL of the help page.
> '' - #hEditor# is the source code editor that the symbol comes from.
> '' +Symbol types
> '' The #iType# argument can be one of the following constants, defined
> in the MHelp module:
> '' - =TYPE_NATIVE= for a native datatype.
> '' - =TYPE_CLASS= for a class.
> '' - =TYPE_CONTROL= for a control name.
> '' - =TYPE_SYMBOL= for a class symbol, a local or a global variable.
> '' - =TYPE_EVENT= for an event.
> '' - =TYPE_KEYWORD= for a language keyword.
> '' - =TYPE_SPECIAL= for a special method.
>
> Public Sub InitWebViewWith(hWebView As WebView, iType As Integer,
> sSymbol As String, Optional sClass As String, Optional sMore As
> String, Optional hEditor As FEditor)
>
>  Dim cSymbol As Collection
>  Dim hSymbol As CSymbolInfo
>  Dim hClass As CClassInfo
>  Dim hComp As CComponent
>
>
>
> 2010/9/14 Jussi Lahtinen <jussi.lahtinen at ...626...>:
> > Nice, just learned this! Very useful!
> > Is it possible to do multi lined help lines?
> > Now they are concatenated without newlines:
> > ''Line1
> > ''Line2
> > -->
> > Line1 Line2
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 18:03, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> hum... there is a way to document you class in code with the ' '
> >>
> >> 'hi is a comment
> >> ''hi is a help line
> >>
> >> help line must be between to class declaration or in the same line
> >> for a variable declaration too
> >> this is valid only in gb3 (and is not perfect)
> >>
> >> Maybe we need to add an export function .... This tool have been done
> >> to remember the  work done in the project.
> >> What is this variable for ? or this class ?
> >>
> >> 2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
> >> >    Mmmm, the program, something like the wiki http://gambasdoc.org or
> >> the
> >> > help that appears when I write code in the IDE. This help appears also
> >> with
> >> > my own classes and modules.
> >> >
> >> >    Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > --------------------------------------------------
> >> > From: "Fabien Bodard" <gambas.fr at ...626...>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:54 AM
> >> > To: "mailing list for gambas users" <
> gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] An easy way to document a Gambas program?
> >> >
> >> >> to document the code or the program itself ?
> >> >>
> >> >> 2010/9/14 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
> >> >>>    Hi, again me  :-)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    Is there an easy way to document a Gambas program? Most are
> classes
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> modules.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> >> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> >> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Gambas-user mailing list
> >> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Fabien Bodard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> >> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> >> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Gambas-user mailing list
> >> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >>
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Fabien Bodard
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 04:42:27 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:42:27 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
Message-ID: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>

Hi Beno?t. Below I expose some suggestions for new and alternative keywords.

PUBLIC and PRIVATE keywords defines the scope for attributes and
methods, but this words come from (or evokes) modular/structured
programming. Because PUBLIC methods and attributes (and properties)
define the interface for a class, I think that a good and alternative
syntax could be based in new keyword like INTERFACE, IMPLEMENTATION,
METHOD, ATTRIBUTE, PROPERTY, VALIDATE, etc.

Example:

PUBLIC Name AS String
PUBLIC LastName AS String

PRIVATE iAge AS Byte

PROPERTY Age AS Byte

PRIVATE FUNCTION Age_Read() AS Byte
  RETURN iAge
END

PRIVATE SUB Age_Write(Value AS Byte)
  IF Value >= MinAge THEN
    iAge = Value
  ELSE
     Error.Raise("Age have to equal or greater than: " & MinAge)
  ENDIF
END

PUBLIC SUB DoSomething()
  . . .
END

PUBLIC FUNCTION DoSomethingElse() AS String
  . . .
END

PRIVATE SUB DoSomething1()
  . . .
END

PRIVATE FUNCTION DoSomethingElse1() AS String
  . . .
END

-----------------

Become:


INTERFACE

  'Attribute keyword is optional
  ATTRIBUTE Name, LastName AS String

  'Defines an attribute that is part of interface class and is
accessed by dot notation (AnObject.Age, AnObject.Age=34)
  PROPERTY Age AS Byte
    'Validate when property is written (WHEN WRITE is optional because
is the default)
    'When Write: just in case, so When Read could exist too.
    VALIDATE WHEN WRITE Age >= MinAge
      'Unsucessfull is a long word, may be there's other better
      UNSUCESSFULL Error.Raise("Age have to equal or greater than: " & MinAge)

  'METHOD keyword is optional
  METHOD DoSomething()
    . . .
  END

  METHOD DoSomethingElse() AS String
    . . .
  END


IMPLEMENTATION

  CONST MinAge AS Byte = 28

  . . .

  'Same name is used in INTERFACE: this would possible because the
scope is different
  METHOD DoSomething()
    . . .
  END

  METHOD DoSomethingElse() AS String
    . . .
  END

------------
Advantages

* More expressive code (smells a bit declarative)
* Is needed to write less code (50% in this example)
* keywords are closer to OOP
* More easy to teach

Disadvantages

* This code not seems BASIC neither Gambas (that is why this syntax
should be alternative)
* Is difficult to implement?


What do you think?



From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Wed Sep 15 08:44:27 2010
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (kevinfishburne)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:44:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  someshort="xy" returns "Wanted short,
 got string instead"
Message-ID: <29715645.post@...1379...>


I can say, somebyte=ASC("x"), but is it possible to quickly assign a two-byte
string to a typical two-byte short?

I'm sure this can be done with some lengthy function but (as most
programmers should) I have a need for efficiency. I'm not concerned with
character set mishaps for people with different language settings, as the
app will be virtualized in a strict environment.

Also in general I am extremely interested in how to quickly assign values
from one datatype to a different one. Does GAMBAS have a convention for this
outside of functions like ASC?

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From rterry at ...1946...  Wed Sep 15 09:08:39 2010
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:08:39 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug in Qt4 and workaround
In-Reply-To: <201009141715.16776.gambas@...1...>
References: <201009141715.16776.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <201009151708.39085.rterry@...1946...>

On Wednesday 15 September 2010 01:15:16 Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> For information:
> 
> There is (apparently) a bug in Qt4: if the last visible menu in the
>  menu-bar is not the last created menu, i.e. if the last visible menu has
>  other hidden menus to its right, then navigating between the top-level
>  menu with the keyboard leads to a segfault.
> 
> The workaround is: the last created menu must be visible. And I guess the
> first one too!
> 
> Regards,
> 
I wonder if this the long term bug that has bedevilled me.

I create menu's on the fly and use them as popups, they erratically (ok on some 
forms) work, on others as soon as a sub-menu is chosen gambas dies.

With a popup menu, the first created menu can't be visible I don't think, as 
eveything else is attatched to that, or is this a misconception.

Richard



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 09:35:04 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:35:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikSiHn28ziyf-CihgrKmuCtT2BnrkRKDQZP=mwn@...627...>

I think for my part , there is two thing bad in your idea...
  - it is not more short than the current implementation .
  - it not respect the Procedure syntax (but can be sympatic in the
case of implementation of MACRO)
  You say it is more easy to read ... yes ... but you manage only one
case in the validation ... imagine managing mutiple validation for one
entry ... it will be less clear.



In fact my question will be what is not clear for you in the Gambas Code ...

Properties are declared separattly..

All variable are in top of class and local in top of procedure ...

then we have in gb3 an explorer that show the class content ...

To finish ... programming in not easy ... gambas is not a one thing
langage and must to be able to do near to everything (just it miss
some velocity ... it's an interpreted langage) so it need to learn a
little bit about what is aroud the langage and about g?n?ric
programmation. A C++ program is more explicit ... but users go to
Basic because of these simplification.... You can try C# or Basic.net
:)
and i'm not sure they are more simple.


Nevertheless... Gambas language will not change for this time, gb4...
in ... 3-4 year will be another thing.





2010/9/15 Fabi?n Flores Vadell <fabianfloresvadell at ...626...>:
> Hi Beno?t. Below I expose some suggestions for new and alternative keywords.
>
> PUBLIC and PRIVATE keywords defines the scope for attributes and
> methods, but this words come from (or evokes) modular/structured
> programming. Because PUBLIC methods and attributes (and properties)
> define the interface for a class, I think that a good and alternative
> syntax could be based in new keyword like INTERFACE, IMPLEMENTATION,
> METHOD, ATTRIBUTE, PROPERTY, VALIDATE, etc.
>
> Example:
>
> PUBLIC Name AS String
> PUBLIC LastName AS String
>
> PRIVATE iAge AS Byte
>
> PROPERTY Age AS Byte
>
> PRIVATE FUNCTION Age_Read() AS Byte
> ?RETURN iAge
> END
>
> PRIVATE SUB Age_Write(Value AS Byte)
> ?IF Value >= MinAge THEN
> ? ?iAge = Value
> ?ELSE
> ? ? Error.Raise("Age have to equal or greater than: " & MinAge)
> ?ENDIF
> END
>
> PUBLIC SUB DoSomething()
> ?. . .
> END
>
> PUBLIC FUNCTION DoSomethingElse() AS String
> ?. . .
> END
>
> PRIVATE SUB DoSomething1()
> ?. . .
> END
>
> PRIVATE FUNCTION DoSomethingElse1() AS String
> ?. . .
> END
>
> -----------------
>
> Become:
>
>
> INTERFACE
>
> ?'Attribute keyword is optional
> ?ATTRIBUTE Name, LastName AS String
>
> ?'Defines an attribute that is part of interface class and is
> accessed by dot notation (AnObject.Age, AnObject.Age=34)
> ?PROPERTY Age AS Byte
> ? ?'Validate when property is written (WHEN WRITE is optional because
> is the default)
> ? ?'When Write: just in case, so When Read could exist too.
> ? ?VALIDATE WHEN WRITE Age >= MinAge
> ? ? ?'Unsucessfull is a long word, may be there's other better
> ? ? ?UNSUCESSFULL Error.Raise("Age have to equal or greater than: " & MinAge)
>
> ?'METHOD keyword is optional
> ?METHOD DoSomething()
> ? ?. . .
> ?END
>
> ?METHOD DoSomethingElse() AS String
> ? ?. . .
> ?END
>
>
> IMPLEMENTATION
>
> ?CONST MinAge AS Byte = 28
>
> ?. . .
>
> ?'Same name is used in INTERFACE: this would possible because the
> scope is different
> ?METHOD DoSomething()
> ? ?. . .
> ?END
>
> ?METHOD DoSomethingElse() AS String
> ? ?. . .
> ?END
>
> ------------
> Advantages
>
> * More expressive code (smells a bit declarative)
> * Is needed to write less code (50% in this example)
> * keywords are closer to OOP
> * More easy to teach
>
> Disadvantages
>
> * This code not seems BASIC neither Gambas (that is why this syntax
> should be alternative)
> * Is difficult to implement?
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 09:37:34 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:37:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikSiHn28ziyf-CihgrKmuCtT2BnrkRKDQZP=mwn@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
	<AANLkTikSiHn28ziyf-CihgrKmuCtT2BnrkRKDQZP=mwn@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim+5oY2s3_Z0NK5Z2F8ThRPbW9eA1iD1-xkAFny@...627...>

But i'm not Benoit ;-)



From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 10:32:44 2010
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:32:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Creating gambas3 new form as a copy of other form
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Amtu4EWcf2bf+O_Gu-1hvDjT3NOZAxYtxnbSx@...627...>

Hi,

Is there a way to do this like in gambas2 from the ide? Now, because of new
project structure of hidden files on disk, it's no possible to do and you
need to copy manually.

Regards,
Ricardo D?az


From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 11:01:50 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:01:50 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Creating gambas3 new form as a copy of other form
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Amtu4EWcf2bf+O_Gu-1hvDjT3NOZAxYtxnbSx@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=Amtu4EWcf2bf+O_Gu-1hvDjT3NOZAxYtxnbSx@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin57BKG+6G1V+Q2CJ8TrY_vqLDAQ7zXq19c6uhV@...627...>

at the same... just click on show hidden files., go into .src and
select the file.

This story of hidden file is not really usefull i know.

2010/9/15 Ricardo D?az Mart?n <oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...>:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to do this like in gambas2 from the ide? Now, because of new
> project structure of hidden files on disk, it's no possible to do and you
> need to copy manually.
>
> Regards,
> Ricardo D?az
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 15 12:25:49 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:25:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug in Qt4 and workaround
In-Reply-To: <201009151708.39085.rterry@...1946...>
References: <201009141715.16776.gambas@...1...>
	<201009151708.39085.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <201009151225.49119.gambas@...1...>

> On Wednesday 15 September 2010 01:15:16 Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > For information:
> > 
> > There is (apparently) a bug in Qt4: if the last visible menu in the
> > 
> >  menu-bar is not the last created menu, i.e. if the last visible menu has
> >  other hidden menus to its right, then navigating between the top-level
> >  menu with the keyboard leads to a segfault.
> > 
> > The workaround is: the last created menu must be visible. And I guess the
> > first one too!
> > 
> > Regards,
> 
> I wonder if this the long term bug that has bedevilled me.
> 
> I create menu's on the fly and use them as popups, they erratically (ok on
> some forms) work, on others as soon as a sub-menu is chosen gambas dies.
> 
> With a popup menu, the first created menu can't be visible I don't think,
> as eveything else is attatched to that, or is this a misconception.
> 
> Richard
> 

If you provide a little project that shows the crash, I will be able to 
investigate. Otherwise...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 15 12:31:28 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:31:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] someshort="xy" returns "Wanted short,
	got string instead"
In-Reply-To: <29715645.post@...1379...>
References: <29715645.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <201009151231.28641.gambas@...1...>

> I can say, somebyte=ASC("x"), but is it possible to quickly assign a
> two-byte string to a typical two-byte short?

It's a bad idea. What do you want to do exactly?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 15 12:35:24 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:35:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
In-Reply-To: <1284310255.4802.2.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283974545.2921.1.camel@...2406...>
	<201009121157.03955.gambas@...1...>
	<1284310255.4802.2.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009151235.24049.gambas@...1...>

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
> Fecha: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:57:03 +0200
> 
> > Hi.
> > 
> > There is the possibility to compile the executable gbx2 with option
> > -static.
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > Cristian Abarz?a F
> >
> >Are you sure? Do you have more details?
> 
> Sorry,It was not a conclusion.It was a question. I miss the caracter ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F
> 

It is disabled in the configuration file (in acinclude.m4 line #140). 

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 12:44:49 2010
From: oceanosoftlapalma at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_D=EDaz_Mart=EDn?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:44:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Creating gambas3 new form as a copy of other form
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin57BKG+6G1V+Q2CJ8TrY_vqLDAQ7zXq19c6uhV@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=Amtu4EWcf2bf+O_Gu-1hvDjT3NOZAxYtxnbSx@...627...>
	<AANLkTin57BKG+6G1V+Q2CJ8TrY_vqLDAQ7zXq19c6uhV@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinVuzezxm0wd-oXR2W-Asvgd9TQwEnZ=WZzSAeu@...627...>

Thanks Fabien. I didn't see the show hidden files button on the right side
of toolbar.

Regards,
Ricardo D?az

2010/9/15 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>

> at the same... just click on show hidden files., go into .src and
> select the file.
>
> This story of hidden file is not really usefull i know.
>
> 2010/9/15 Ricardo D?az Mart?n <oceanosoftlapalma at ...626...>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a way to do this like in gambas2 from the ide? Now, because of
> new
> > project structure of hidden files on disk, it's no possible to do and you
> > need to copy manually.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ricardo D?az
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Fabien Bodard
>
>
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From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Wed Sep 15 14:47:06 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (tobias)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:47:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] someshort="xy" returns "Wanted short,
 got string instead"
In-Reply-To: <29715645.post@...1379...>
References: <29715645.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <4C90C04A.4020402@...20...>

hi,

> I can say, somebyte=ASC("x"), but is it possible to quickly assign a two-byte
> string to a typical two-byte short?
> 
> I'm sure this can be done with some lengthy function but (as most
> programmers should) I have a need for efficiency. I'm not concerned with
> character set mishaps for people with different language settings, as the
> app will be virtualized in a strict environment.
> 
> Also in general I am extremely interested in how to quickly assign values
> from one datatype to a different one. Does GAMBAS have a convention for this
> outside of functions like ASC?
> 
> -----
> Kevin Fishburne, Eight Virtues
> www:  http://sales.eightvirtues.com http://sales.eightvirtues.com 
> e-mail:  mailto:sales at ...1887... sales at ...1887... 
> phone: (770) 853-6271

hum, this shouldn't be so diffcult and even if there were a function, it 
won't be more efficient than this one:

PUBLIC FUNCTION GetShort(sWord AS String) AS Short

	RETURN Mid$(sWord, 1, 1) * 256 + Mid$(sWord, 2, 1)

END

i haven't tried it but i think it should work... but i think there is 
the problem that shorts in gambas are -32.768 <= Short <= +32.767 and i 
don't know if there's a possibility to make them unsigned like in c, but 
if you only want to deal with standard ascii chars (to 127) the highest 
value will be 127 * 256 + 127 = 32639 and this fits in the short's space.
i hope, this is all right.

regards,
tobi



From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Wed Sep 15 15:24:39 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (tobias)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:24:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] someshort="xy" returns "Wanted short,
 got string instead"
In-Reply-To: <4C90C04A.4020402@...20...>
References: <29715645.post@...1379...> <4C90C04A.4020402@...20...>
Message-ID: <4C90C917.4080401@...20...>

hi,

> hi,
> 
>> I can say, somebyte=ASC("x"), but is it possible to quickly assign a two-byte
>> string to a typical two-byte short?
>>
>> I'm sure this can be done with some lengthy function but (as most
>> programmers should) I have a need for efficiency. I'm not concerned with
>> character set mishaps for people with different language settings, as the
>> app will be virtualized in a strict environment.
>>
>> Also in general I am extremely interested in how to quickly assign values
>> from one datatype to a different one. Does GAMBAS have a convention for this
>> outside of functions like ASC?
>>
>> -----
>> Kevin Fishburne, Eight Virtues
>> www:  http://sales.eightvirtues.com http://sales.eightvirtues.com 
>> e-mail:  mailto:sales at ...1887... sales at ...1887... 
>> phone: (770) 853-6271
> 
> hum, this shouldn't be so diffcult and even if there were a function, it 
> won't be more efficient than this one:
> 
> PUBLIC FUNCTION GetShort(sWord AS String) AS Short
> 
> 	RETURN Mid$(sWord, 1, 1) * 256 + Mid$(sWord, 2, 1)
> 
> END
> 
> i haven't tried it but i think it should work... but i think there is 
> the problem that shorts in gambas are -32.768 <= Short <= +32.767 and i 
> don't know if there's a possibility to make them unsigned like in c, but 
> if you only want to deal with standard ascii chars (to 127) the highest 
> value will be 127 * 256 + 127 = 32639 and this fits in the short's space.
> i hope, this is all right.
> 
> regards,
> tobi
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user

i forgot the asc() functions, of course:

PUBLIC FUNCTION GetShort(sWord AS String) AS Short

	RETURN Asc(Mid$(sWord, 1, 1)) * 256 + Asc(Mid$(sWord, 2, 1))

END

or alternatively, you can assign the positions in the asc() function, like

RETURN Asc(sWord, 1) * 256 + Asc(sWord, 2)


 >> Also in general I am extremely interested in how to quickly assign 
values
 >> from one datatype to a different one. Does GAMBAS have a convention 
for this
 >> outside of functions like ASC?

strings that contain any format of numbers are converted to numbers of 
the adequate datatype by default when needed e.g. in function parameter 
passing and vice versa.
in the gambas doc (language index->conversion functions) you'll find 
that there are some common functions for everything

regards,
tobi



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Wed Sep 15 14:51:25 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:51:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
Message-ID: <4C90C14D.4090309@...1909...>

Fabi?n Flores Vadell ha scritto:
> Hi Beno?t. Below I expose some suggestions for new and alternative keywords.
>
> PUBLIC and PRIVATE keywords defines the scope for attributes and
> methods, but this words come from (or evokes) modular/structured
> programming. Because PUBLIC methods and attributes (and properties)
> define the interface for a class, I think that a good and alternative
> syntax could be based in new keyword like INTERFACE, IMPLEMENTATION,
> METHOD, ATTRIBUTE, PROPERTY, VALIDATE, etc.
>
> Example:
>
> PUBLIC Name AS String
> PUBLIC LastName AS String
>
> PRIVATE iAge AS Byte
>
> PROPERTY Age AS Byte
>
> PRIVATE FUNCTION Age_Read() AS Byte
>    RETURN iAge
> END
>
> PRIVATE SUB Age_Write(Value AS Byte)
>    IF Value>= MinAge THEN
>      iAge = Value
>    ELSE
>       Error.Raise("Age have to equal or greater than: "&  MinAge)
>    ENDIF
> END
>
> PUBLIC SUB DoSomething()
>    . . .
> END
>
> PUBLIC FUNCTION DoSomethingElse() AS String
>    . . .
> END
>
> PRIVATE SUB DoSomething1()
>    . . .
> END
>
> PRIVATE FUNCTION DoSomethingElse1() AS String
>    . . .
> END
>
> -----------------
>
> Become:
>
>
> INTERFACE
>
>    'Attribute keyword is optional
>    ATTRIBUTE Name, LastName AS String
>
>    'Defines an attribute that is part of interface class and is
> accessed by dot notation (AnObject.Age, AnObject.Age=34)
>    PROPERTY Age AS Byte
>      'Validate when property is written (WHEN WRITE is optional because
> is the default)
>      'When Write: just in case, so When Read could exist too.
>      VALIDATE WHEN WRITE Age>= MinAge
>        'Unsucessfull is a long word, may be there's other better
>        UNSUCESSFULL Error.Raise("Age have to equal or greater than: "&  MinAge)
>
>    'METHOD keyword is optional
>    METHOD DoSomething()
>      . . .
>    END
>
>    METHOD DoSomethingElse() AS String
>      . . .
>    END
>
>
> IMPLEMENTATION
>
>    CONST MinAge AS Byte = 28
>
>    . . .
>
>    'Same name is used in INTERFACE: this would possible because the
> scope is different
>    METHOD DoSomething()
>      . . .
>    END
>
>    METHOD DoSomethingElse() AS String
>      . . .
>    END
>
> ------------
> Advantages
>
> * More expressive code (smells a bit declarative)
> * Is needed to write less code (50% in this example)
> * keywords are closer to OOP
> * More easy to teach
>
> Disadvantages
>
> * This code not seems BASIC neither Gambas (that is why this syntax
> should be alternative)
> * Is difficult to implement?
>
>
> What do you think?
>    
Probably with "you" you mean Benoit and not me, anyway...

Your proposal resembles the syntax of pascal - I like pascal, and use it 
a lot; but the biggest annoyance of pascal is this double declaration in 
interface and implementation: very clean and very logical - for a 
compiler from 1970. I don't think that substituting PRIVATE and PUBLIC 
with INTERFACE and IMPLEMENTATION would save typing, may be sometimes...

The validation mechanism seems pretty, but does not add anything to the 
more general form of getter/setter. Just more readable by a human (which 
is not too little, anyway).

May be that there can be a midway idea: to have PUBLIC and PRIVATE 
inherited from the last declaration. You specify PUBLIC at the 
beginning, and then write variables and methods. Then you specify 
PRIVATE, and then write all the private part of the class. This way, you 
get closer to your proposal, still having the possibility to mix public 
and private declarations.

To Fabien:
> All variable are in top of class and local in top of procedure ...
>
> then we have in gb3 an explorer that show the class content ...
>
>    
Having to declare *all* the variables together, before they are used, is 
sometimes limiting, expecially when speaking about class variables. Why 
not group together variables and related routines? This is in fact 
doable in gambas, and much less in pascal. You could argue that a class 
should do only one thing, so there would be no need to create different 
groups - but I don't think so... especially with the model of gambas 
which does not really "import" a module or a class.

Regards,
Doriano





From sotema at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 17:19:43 2010
From: sotema at ...626... (emanuele sottocorno)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:19:43 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 and postgresql indexes
Message-ID: <AANLkTinay2Td0HoujFofK7frQNbdDiURivCtMo_MwdsP@...627...>

Hi Beno?t

have You some news about it.

Thanks,
Emanuele


From lord.quo at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 17:23:35 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:23:35 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling gambas3
In-Reply-To: <201009100059.05855.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTimLjUK6x9sKYMecUYSimrQ+o8oWmKo2za0VsTBs@...627...><201009100035.11924.gambas@...1...>
	<201009100059.05855.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <3E6FA4B0EFB84F1D98C7BA2A9414C294@...2471...>

    Sorry for my late answer. Thanks Benoit, now I can compile gambas3.

    :-)

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Beno?t Minisini" <gambas at ...1...>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:59 PM
To: "mailing list for gambas users" <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Ubuntu 9.04 - I have error while compiling 
gambas3

>> >    Hi all, I'm tryinh to compile gamba3, revision 3203. I do this:
>> > $ mkdir gambas3
>> > $ cd gambas3
>> > $ mkdir trunk
>> > $ svn checkout
>> > https://gambas.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gambas/gambas/trunk/
>> > .
>> > .
>> > .
>> > Revisi?n obtenida: 3203
>> >
>> > $ cd trunk
>> > $ ./reconf-all
>> > $ ./configure
>> > $ make
>> >
>> >     And then I have this error:
>> > make[5]: se ingresa al directorio
>> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
>> > /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
>> > -I.. -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
>> > -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
>> > -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb
>> > -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
>> > -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/librsvg-2   -I../share
>> > -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char
>> > -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
>> > -fno-omit-frame-pointer  -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
>> > .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c -o gdrawingarea.lo gdrawingarea.cpp
>> > libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT
>> > -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
>> > -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/pixman-1
>> > -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb -I/usr/include/libpng12
>> > -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
>> > -I/usr/include/librsvg-2 -I../share -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions
>> > -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
>> > -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT gdrawingarea.lo -MD -MP -MF
>> > .deps/gdrawingarea.Tpo -c gdrawingarea.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
>> > .libs/gdrawingarea.o
>> > gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?bool gDrawingArea::canFocus()
>> > const?: gdrawingarea.cpp:112: error: ?gtk_widget_get_can_focus? no se
>> > declar? en este ?mbito
>> > gdrawingarea.cpp: In member function ?void
>> > gDrawingArea::setCanFocus(bool)?: gdrawingarea.cpp:117: error:
>> > ?gtk_widget_set_can_focus? no se declar? en este ?mbito
>> > make[5]: *** [gdrawingarea.lo] Error 1
>> > make[5]: se sale del directorio
>> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
>> > make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> > make[4]: se sale del directorio
>> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
>> > make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> > make[3]: se sale del directorio
>> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
>> > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
>> > make[2]: se sale del directorio
>> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk/gb.gtk'
>> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> > make[1]: se sale del directorio
>> > `/home/dquinter/Descargas/Gambas3/trunk/trunk'
>> > make: *** [all] Error 2
>> >
>> >    What can I fix it?
>> >
>> >    Thanks for all.
>> >
>> > Daniel Quintero desde la Ciudad de M?xico
>>
>> I guess your GTK+ version is too old. Can you tell me which version of 
>> GTK+
>> in installed on your system? To do that, look at the package name, or at
>> the .so library file name.
>>
>> Regards,
>
> Can you try with the latest #3204 revision?
 




From sotema at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 17:27:23 2010
From: sotema at ...626... (emanuele sottocorno)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:27:23 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Another issue on postgresql compenent in gb3 (gb2
	also fails)
Message-ID: <AANLkTik4gazm-8dJabDO91c68sQgY9WA1rP90gLJMxDf@...627...>

Signal #11 error  is raised running the following procedure:

DIM hConn AS NEW Connection
  DIM hResult AS Result
  DIM sAziende AS String
  DIM SCriteria AS String = "ulogin=&1"
  DIM sParameter AS String = "emanuele"
  WITH hConn
    .Host = "azienda"
    .Port = "5432"
    .Type = "postgresql"
    .Name = "gbputenti"
    .Login = "gbpneus"
    .Password = "7CPuSuvADGqp"
  END WITH
  TRY hConn.Open()
'   hResult = hConn.Exec("select * from utenti where ulogin='emanuele'") <-
this run fine
  hConn.Find("utenti", SCriteria, sParameter) <-- This fails
  sAziende = hResult!uaziende
  hConn.Close()


From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 18:27:33 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:27:33 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikSiHn28ziyf-CihgrKmuCtT2BnrkRKDQZP=mwn@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
	<AANLkTikSiHn28ziyf-CihgrKmuCtT2BnrkRKDQZP=mwn@...627...>
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2010/9/15 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> I think for my part , there is two thing bad in your idea...
> ?- it is not more short than the current implementation .

Yes, it is. Just count the number of lines, not the comments.

> ?- it not respect the Procedure syntax (but can be sympatic in the
> case of implementation of MACRO)

That is the case and I tried to explain on my previous message: why
OOP should be tied to procedure syntax? Just for back compatibility.
Why we can't have in Gambas an alternative syntax more closer to OOP?

May be I'm not doing a touch? with my proposal. But I'm not an expert,
I just want to explain my ideas.

> ?You say it is more easy to read ... yes ... but you manage only one
> case in the validation ... imagine managing mutiple validation for one
> entry ... it will be less clear.

I can imagine many different ways to try to do that, keeping simple. Example:

   VALIDATE WHEN WRITE Age >= MinAge AND Age <= Max Age

or

   VALIDATE WHEN WRITE
      Age >= MinAge
      Age <= Max Age;

or

   VALIDATE WHEN WRITE (Age >= MinAge AND Age <= Max Age)


> In fact my question will be what is not clear for you in the Gambas Code ...

I don't propose this changes because something is not clear for me,
but because I think these can be usefull.


> To finish ... programming in not easy ... gambas is not a one thing
> langage and must to be able to do near to everything (just it miss
> some velocity ... it's an interpreted langage) so it need to learn a
> little bit about what is aroud the langage and about g?n?ric
> programmation. A C++ program is more explicit ... but users go to
> Basic because of these simplification.... You can try C# or Basic.net
> :)
> and i'm not sure they are more simple.

You goes out of the topic. I'm not interested to return to programming
in MS platform. I know Pascal, VB, Delphi, a bit Assembly, Lisp, shell
script, from times on university, and thereafter: php, OOoBasic, a bit
Java, a bit .Net, a bit Haskell.

My point is that I'm not searching for a programming language. But I
saw quite "OOP" syntax derivated from structured programming.

But about user than go to BASIC because of these simplification,
that's the motivation of my proposal.

> Nevertheless... Gambas language will not change for this time, gb4...
> in ... 3-4 year will be another thing.

Why? You forgot answer to the key question:

 * Is difficult to implement?

And you don't should forget that I'm proposing that syntax as
alternative (optional).


Regards.
-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From sotema at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 18:34:44 2010
From: sotema at ...626... (emanuele sottocorno)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:34:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Another issue on postgresql component in gb3
Message-ID: <AANLkTimk3DdxXHbk_BBNDPYHB332aHTqX1rXCbfj0fSR@...627...>

Attached the gdb output.
Forgive me i hit send too fast

Emanuele
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From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 18:59:17 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:59:17 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <4C90C14D.4090309@...1909...>
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	<4C90C14D.4090309@...1909...>
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2010/9/15 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
> Probably with "you" you mean Benoit and not me, anyway...

I'm sorry. I thought about sending it to Benoit, but I wrote the user
list address. But, this way may well be better.

> Your proposal resembles the syntax of pascal - I like pascal, and use it
> a lot; but the biggest annoyance of pascal is this double declaration in
> interface and implementation: very clean and very logical - for a
> compiler from 1970.

Oh! Lisp come from fifties, but many current languages do not reach
their ankles :-)  (I'm not referring to Gambas)

> I don't think that substituting PRIVATE and PUBLIC
> with INTERFACE and IMPLEMENTATION would save typing, may be sometimes...

You forgot argue about your opinion. But, please, pay attention when
you read: I'm saying about an << alternative >> syntax.

> The validation mechanism seems pretty, but does not add anything to the
> more general form of getter/setter. Just more readable by a human (which
> is not too little, anyway).

Yes. Nothing must be change in background. Just is about readability,
and syntax  closer to OOP

> May be that there can be a midway idea: to have PUBLIC and PRIVATE
> inherited from the last declaration. You specify PUBLIC at the
> beginning, and then write variables and methods. Then you specify
> PRIVATE, and then write all the private part of the class. This way, you
> get closer to your proposal, still having the possibility to mix public
> and private declarations.

I proposed exactly that, time ago to Beno?t. But, because I'm
referring to a alternative syntax closer to OOP, I think that
INTERFACE and IMPLEMENTATION keywords are more accurated. That they
exist in Pascal from nineties is just anecdotal, and not detract
merits to them.

A very important advantage, was not emphasized enough: keywords closer
to OOP help very much to teaching an OOP language, because them are
closely related to the OOP concepts.

Regards


-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 19:02:49 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:02:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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2010/9/15 Fabi?n Flores Vadell <fabianfloresvadell at ...626...>:
> 2010/9/15 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
>> I think for my part , there is two thing bad in your idea...
>> ?- it is not more short than the current implementation .
>
> Yes, it is. Just count the number of lines, not the comments.
>
>> ?- it not respect the Procedure syntax (but can be sympatic in the
>> case of implementation of MACRO)
>
> That is the case and I tried to explain on my previous message: why
> OOP should be tied to procedure syntax? Just for back compatibility.
> Why we can't have in Gambas an alternative syntax more closer to OOP?

>
> May be I'm not doing a touch? with my proposal. But I'm not an expert,
> I just want to explain my ideas.
>
>> ?You say it is more easy to read ... yes ... but you manage only one
>> case in the validation ... imagine managing mutiple validation for one
>> entry ... it will be less clear.
>
> I can imagine many different ways to try to do that, keeping simple. Example:
>
> ? VALIDATE WHEN WRITE Age >= MinAge AND Age <= Max Age
>
> or
>
> ? VALIDATE WHEN WRITE
> ? ? ?Age >= MinAge
> ? ? ?Age <= Max Age;
>
> or
>
> ? VALIDATE WHEN WRITE (Age >= MinAge AND Age <= Max Age)
>
in an alternative case ... maybe... but not for complex things

>> In fact my question will be what is not clear for you in the Gambas Code ...
>
> I don't propose this changes because something is not clear for me,
> but because I think these can be usefull.
>
>
>> To finish ... programming in not easy ... gambas is not a one thing
>> langage and must to be able to do near to everything (just it miss
>> some velocity ... it's an interpreted langage) so it need to learn a
>> little bit about what is aroud the langage and about g?n?ric
>> programmation. A C++ program is more explicit ... but users go to
>> Basic because of these simplification.... You can try C# or Basic.net
>> :)
>> and i'm not sure they are more simple.
>
> You goes out of the topic. I'm not interested to return to programming
> in MS platform. I know Pascal, VB, Delphi, a bit Assembly, Lisp, shell
> script, from times on university, and thereafter: php, OOoBasic, a bit
> Java, a bit .Net, a bit Haskell.
Good collection :). I don't say you to return to M$ (my english is
really bad you know ?)
But in basic

>
> My point is that I'm not searching for a programming language. But I
> saw quite "OOP" syntax derivated from structured programming.
>
> But about user than go to BASIC because of these simplification,
> that's the motivation of my proposal.
>
>> Nevertheless... Gambas language will not change for this time, gb4...
>> in ... 3-4 year will be another thing.
>
> Why? You forgot answer to the key question:
>
> ?* Is difficult to implement?
i think no ... but i'm not the one that should do that ... wait for Benoit :)
>
> And you don't should forget that I'm proposing that syntax as
> alternative (optional).
I remember that ... don't worry
>
>
> Regards.
> --
> Fabi?n Flores Vadell
> www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
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Hum many sugars are possible in gambas ... but i'm ot the master ...
wait for Benoit ... i'm just a slave ... a poor slave... :P


I've query some things too :

For each type in array  must return only object of type 'Type'

why not "MyString".Len() ? or MyStringVar.Mid(2,1), or myString.Instr("v",3)

why not declare the var on need ?

(String)MyString = i + 2

(String[])aValue = ["titi", "toto"]


:)

Many things are possible ... but we need to finish this version before
change all a new time ... and i think benoit will be agree with that.

I think he have already a big todo list for next version.

-- 
Fabien Bodard



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 19:05:42 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:05:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik09ri49BTfNhkUSE+JbuZijiKCbGqbSi=sQ8CB@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
	<4C90C14D.4090309@...1909...>
	<AANLkTik09ri49BTfNhkUSE+JbuZijiKCbGqbSi=sQ8CB@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Gu4Bxjd-5gmVS7YHKiLcsPo-Z583u-b_e9mMH@...627...>

> A very important advantage, was not emphasized enough: keywords closer
> to OOP help very much to teaching an OOP language, because them are
> closely related to the OOP concepts.
>
true !



From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Wed Sep 15 20:43:45 2010
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (kevinfishburne)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:43:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] someshort="xy" returns "Wanted short,
 got string instead"
In-Reply-To: <4C90C917.4080401@...20...>
References: <29715645.post@...1379...> <4C90C04A.4020402@...20...>
	<4C90C917.4080401@...20...>
Message-ID: <29721157.post@...1379...>



tobias-47 wrote:
> 
> i forgot the asc() functions, of course:
> 
> PUBLIC FUNCTION GetShort(sWord AS String) AS Short
> 
> 	RETURN Asc(Mid$(sWord, 1, 1)) * 256 + Asc(Mid$(sWord, 2, 1))
> 
> END
> 
> or alternatively, you can assign the positions in the asc() function, like
> 
> RETURN Asc(sWord, 1) * 256 + Asc(sWord, 2)
> 

Thanks Tobi, I'll give that a try if it becomes the only option. Hopefully
there's something I can do like a variable pointer, so the data can
basically just be copied from the string directly. This is for a real-time
game so any inefficiencies can cause it to "hang" for a second and interrupt
the smoothness of play.


Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> 
>> I can say, somebyte=ASC("x"), but is it possible to quickly assign a
>> two-byte string to a typical two-byte short?
> 
> It's a bad idea. What do you want to do exactly?
> 

Hi Beno?t. Maybe there's a better way for me to have come to this point, but
here's what's happening:

A server app retrieves sets of data from five binary files and stores them
consecutively in a string. The first set is a 48x48 grid of shorts for a
total of 4608 bytes (48x48x1x2). The last four sets are 48x48 grids of bytes
for a total of 9216 bytes (48x48x4x1). So in total we have 13824 bytes (2304
shorts and 9216 bytes), converted to one large string something like this:

DIM data AS String
DIM chunk AS String

READ #somefileofshorts, chunk, 2
data = data & chunk

READ #somefileofbytes, chunk, 1
data = data & chunk

Normally I might read the shorts into an array of shorts, but in this case
the final string is sent to a client app as a UDP packet. I also need to
send all the data as a single packet rather than several. The client app
receives the packet and parses it, assigning the floats and bytes of the
payload to five 48x48 element arrays like this:

DIM somearray AS Short[48, 48]

somearray[x, y] =  Mid$(payload, position, 2)

It needs to make that string to short conversion 2304 times (48x48) in as
little time as possible.

I can only think of two solutions here. One is to find a way to convert a
two-character string to a short as quickly as possible (the subject of the
post), and the other is to change the way I'm collecting the data to be sent
as a UDP packet so that it can be read more "normally" by the client. The
UDP_Read procedure is generic however, and has no way of knowing what kind
of data is contained within the packet, so that may be difficult at best.

-----
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From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Sep 15 21:58:19 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:58:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A suggestion for the code editor
Message-ID: <4C91255B.7050808@...221...>

It happens quite often (at least to me, blockhead) that a line of code has to be
moved to one ore some lines up or down.

Right now, I can't see another way to do this than marking the line and using
Ctrl-X and Ctrl-V.

My very old text program in the office has a nice command "Alt+Up/Down" that
moves a complete line of text up/down (switching the lines), so it is very easy
and quick to place a line somewhere else.

Maybe an idea for the code editor?

Regards
Matti



From prog at ...2177...  Wed Sep 15 22:26:16 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:26:16 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <201009132058.28030.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009100125.12509.gambas@...1...>
	<1284075565.32706.17.camel@...2406...>
	<201009132058.28030.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1284582376.1612.10.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
Fecha: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:58:27 +0200

> 
> Ok. Now I understand.
> 
> With regard to the installer, I send you some screens to see if you
> like. This installer would be separated from Gambas3, because the code
> is heavily commented, and I have delayed a lot in trying to understand.
> I'm still stuck trying to run the executable with another version of
> glibc, but nothing.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua

>Hi Cristian,

>I like the name, "canner". But it will be better if you make a command-line 
>tool to can gambas projects, and do the GUI on top on this command-line tool.

>Regards,

Glad you liked.I want to clarify that the installer trying to do, is only a supplement which comes with Gambas.
Since the Gambas is much more complete.

I sincerely think that if we can develop an independent installer
distribution, would be the final step to consolidate Gambas programming
as the default IDE for Linux.

With respect to develop console, what is the idea you have in mind?.

PS: If anyone is interested in participating, so be it.

Regards.

Cristian Abarz?a F.







From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Sep 15 23:16:14 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:16:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <1284582376.1612.10.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009100125.12509.gambas@...1...>
	<1284075565.32706.17.camel@...2406...>
	<201009132058.28030.gambas@...1...>
	<1284582376.1612.10.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik8GE1ixoOh3dFbxMA98DWJmxEfdZgV11ETgkuq@...627...>

in fact benoit talk about separate your program in too part

one program in text only(console), that manage all the function in
text mode. And the a frontend that give a graphical interface.

like many programs on linux.

to help you to understand how to make a console program take a look at
the sources of gbs3



2010/9/15 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
> Fecha: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:58:27 +0200
>
>>
>> Ok. Now I understand.
>>
>> With regard to the installer, I send you some screens to see if you
>> like. This installer would be separated from Gambas3, because the code
>> is heavily commented, and I have delayed a lot in trying to understand.
>> I'm still stuck trying to run the executable with another version of
>> glibc, but nothing.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Cristian Abarzua
>
>>Hi Cristian,
>
>>I like the name, "canner". But it will be better if you make a command-line
>>tool to can gambas projects, and do the GUI on top on this command-line tool.
>
>>Regards,
>
> Glad you liked.I want to clarify that the installer trying to do, is only a supplement which comes with Gambas.
> Since the Gambas is much more complete.
>
> I sincerely think that if we can develop an independent installer
> distribution, would be the final step to consolidate Gambas programming
> as the default IDE for Linux.
>
> With respect to develop console, what is the idea you have in mind?.
>
> PS: If anyone is interested in participating, so be it.
>
> Regards.
>
> Cristian Abarz?a F.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From prog at ...2177...  Wed Sep 15 23:33:00 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:33:00 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik8GE1ixoOh3dFbxMA98DWJmxEfdZgV11ETgkuq@...627...>
References: <1283968315.6390.7.camel@...2406...>
	<201009100125.12509.gambas@...1...>
	<1284075565.32706.17.camel@...2406...>
	<201009132058.28030.gambas@...1...>
	<1284582376.1612.10.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTik8GE1ixoOh3dFbxMA98DWJmxEfdZgV11ETgkuq@...627...>
Message-ID: <1284586380.3431.3.camel@...2406...>

Hi Fabien.

My question was to do it only in console,Sorry if anything was
understood.

Regards.

Cristian Abarz?a F

>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
>Fecha: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:16:14 +0200

>in fact benoit talk about separate your program in too part

>one program in text only(console), that manage all the function in
>text mode. And the a frontend that give a graphical interface.

>like many programs on linux.

>to help you to understand how to make a console program take a look at
<the sources of gbs3



2010/9/15 craf <prog at ...2177...>:
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Rev. 3199 - Gambas 3
> Fecha: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:58:27 +0200
>
>>
>> Ok. Now I understand.
>>
>> With regard to the installer, I send you some screens to see if you
>> like. This installer would be separated from Gambas3, because the code
>> is heavily commented, and I have delayed a lot in trying to understand.
>> I'm still stuck trying to run the executable with another version of
>> glibc, but nothing.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Cristian Abarzua
>
>>Hi Cristian,
>
>>I like the name, "canner". But it will be better if you make a command-line
>>tool to can gambas projects, and do the GUI on top on this command-line tool.
>
>>Regards,
>
> Glad you liked.I want to clarify that the installer trying to do, is only a supplement which comes with Gambas.
> Since the Gambas is much more complete.
>
> I sincerely think that if we can develop an independent installer
> distribution, would be the final step to consolidate Gambas programming
> as the default IDE for Linux.
>
> With respect to develop console, what is the idea you have in mind?.
>
> PS: If anyone is interested in participating, so be it.
>
> Regards.
>
> Cristian Abarz?a F.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>









From dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...  Wed Sep 15 23:49:52 2010
From: dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312... (Dag Jarle Johansen)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:49:52 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] A suggestion for the code editor
In-Reply-To: <4C91255B.7050808@...221...>
References: <4C91255B.7050808@...221...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP117BB4F24BF1BE2695F725FF9790@...693...>

I agree Matti, some more little functions in the editor of the IDE would
be fine. I always liked to delete a line or the selected source with
Ctrl-Y. (Using the German keyboard it is next to Crtl)

Benoit, sorry, your software is just great, the best I have ever seen,
easy for rookies and multiple choice for pro's. or do you believe a
software will ever be complete? never, I swear you.

and I think, you have not birthday - lol - Benoit - but good work should
be honoured.

Regards, Dag-Jarle



Am Mittwoch, den 15.09.2010, 21:58 +0200 schrieb Matti:

> It happens quite often (at least to me, blockhead) that a line of code has to be
> moved to one ore some lines up or down.
> 
> Right now, I can't see another way to do this than marking the line and using
> Ctrl-X and Ctrl-V.
> 
> My very old text program in the office has a nice command "Alt+Up/Down" that
> moves a complete line of text up/down (switching the lines), so it is very easy
> and quick to place a line somewhere else.
> 
> Maybe an idea for the code editor?
> 
> Regards
> Matti
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user




From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep 16 01:57:15 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:57:15 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
In-Reply-To: <201009151235.24049.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283974545.2921.1.camel@...2406...>
	<201009121157.03955.gambas@...1...>
	<1284310255.4802.2.camel@...2406...>
	<201009151235.24049.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1284595035.4082.23.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
Fecha: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:35:24 +0200

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
> Fecha: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:57:03 +0200
> 
> > Hi.
> > 
> > There is the possibility to compile the executable gbx2 with option
> > -static.
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > Cristian Abarz?a F
> >
> >Are you sure? Do you have more details?
> 
> Sorry,It was not a conclusion.It was a question. I miss the caracter ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F
> 

>It is disabled in the configuration file (in acinclude.m4 line #140). 

>Regards,

Thanks for the tip, Benoit

I really think the problem has nothing to do with the interpreter, if
not rather with GTK.

I updated my Ubuntu computer to 10.4 to see if the problem was with
version 9.10

I think an installer from a console project, created with the version
2.21 of Gambas.

The move to a version 9.10 and runs perfectly in virtualbox.

I try with versions 9.04, 8.10 and works perfect.The drama begins when I
create a project with gtk.

By running the installer in Ubuntu 9.10, throws errors with respect to
shared libraries gdk11 and others, which are called by the
LD_LIBRARY_PATH path to the file .sh

The delete and it works perfectly.

When I test the same installer in 9.04 or 8.10, gives me a problem with
libcairo library, you do not find GLIBC.

To find out for sure, I think a C program using the GTK libraries and
run on Ubuntu and runs perfectly in 9.10->9.04->8.10 and even 8.04.

Then compile the same program in Ubuntu 8.04 and I run it in reverse
order.8.04->8.10->9.04->9.10.and runs perfectly. Glibc does not throw
errors.

It seems that when setting a part, then disrupts the other.

I have not wanted to try with QT yet, until you can fix this.

It could be that the component gb.gtk there deprecated functions?,and so
the program runs only in some versions,It's just an idea.

no longer know what to think. Any ideas?

Regards

Cristian Abarzua




From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 16 02:04:31 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:04:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
In-Reply-To: <1284595035.4082.23.camel@...2406...>
References: <1283974545.2921.1.camel@...2406...>
	<201009151235.24049.gambas@...1...>
	<1284595035.4082.23.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009160204.31427.gambas@...1...>

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
> Fecha: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:35:24 +0200
> 
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> > Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> > <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
> > Fecha: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:57:03 +0200
> > 
> > > Hi.
> > > 
> > > There is the possibility to compile the executable gbx2 with option
> > > -static.
> > > 
> > > Regards.
> > > 
> > > Cristian Abarz?a F
> > >
> > >Are you sure? Do you have more details?
> > 
> > Sorry,It was not a conclusion.It was a question. I miss the caracter ?
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Cristian Abarzua F
> >
> >It is disabled in the configuration file (in acinclude.m4 line #140).
> >
> >Regards,
> 
> Thanks for the tip, Benoit
> 
> I really think the problem has nothing to do with the interpreter, if
> not rather with GTK.
> 
> I updated my Ubuntu computer to 10.4 to see if the problem was with
> version 9.10
> 
> I think an installer from a console project, created with the version
> 2.21 of Gambas.
> 
> The move to a version 9.10 and runs perfectly in virtualbox.
> 
> I try with versions 9.04, 8.10 and works perfect.The drama begins when I
> create a project with gtk.
> 
> By running the installer in Ubuntu 9.10, throws errors with respect to
> shared libraries gdk11 and others, which are called by the
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH path to the file .sh
> 
> The delete and it works perfectly.
> 
> When I test the same installer in 9.04 or 8.10, gives me a problem with
> libcairo library, you do not find GLIBC.
> 
> To find out for sure, I think a C program using the GTK libraries and
> run on Ubuntu and runs perfectly in 9.10->9.04->8.10 and even 8.04.
> 
> Then compile the same program in Ubuntu 8.04 and I run it in reverse
> order.8.04->8.10->9.04->9.10.and runs perfectly. Glibc does not throw
> errors.
> 
> It seems that when setting a part, then disrupts the other.
> 
> I have not wanted to try with QT yet, until you can fix this.
> 
> It could be that the component gb.gtk there deprecated functions?,and so
> the program runs only in some versions,It's just an idea.
> 
> no longer know what to think. Any ideas?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarzua
> 

Please can you try to polish your english and provide information as much as 
possible, because some sentences are not 100% clear to me, and so it's 
difficult for me to help you as you are doing something I have little 
knowledge about.

Anyway, did you look at Google Earth installation on Linux? This is a "caned" 
Qt4-based program, so maybe you cann look at how they do?

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep 16 02:28:15 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:28:15 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
In-Reply-To: <201009160204.31427.gambas@...1...>
References: <1283974545.2921.1.camel@...2406...>
	<201009151235.24049.gambas@...1...>
	<1284595035.4082.23.camel@...2406...>
	<201009160204.31427.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1284596895.4082.40.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
Fecha: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:04:31 +0200

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
> Fecha: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:35:24 +0200
> 
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> > Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> > <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas compile with option -static
> > Fecha: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:57:03 +0200
> > 
> > > Hi.
> > > 
> > > There is the possibility to compile the executable gbx2 with option
> > > -static.
> > > 
> > > Regards.
> > > 
> > > Cristian Abarz?a F
> > >
> > >Are you sure? Do you have more details?
> > 
> > Sorry,It was not a conclusion.It was a question. I miss the caracter ?
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Cristian Abarzua F
> >
> >It is disabled in the configuration file (in acinclude.m4 line #140).
> >
> >Regards,
> 
> Thanks for the tip, Benoit
> 
> I really think the problem has nothing to do with the interpreter, if
> not rather with GTK.
> 
> I updated my Ubuntu computer to 10.4 to see if the problem was with
> version 9.10
> 
> I think an installer from a console project, created with the version
> 2.21 of Gambas.
> 
> The move to a version 9.10 and runs perfectly in virtualbox.
> 
> I try with versions 9.04, 8.10 and works perfect.The drama begins when I
> create a project with gtk.
> 
> By running the installer in Ubuntu 9.10, throws errors with respect to
> shared libraries gdk11 and others, which are called by the
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH path to the file .sh
> 
> The delete and it works perfectly.
> 
> When I test the same installer in 9.04 or 8.10, gives me a problem with
> libcairo library, you do not find GLIBC.
> 
> To find out for sure, I think a C program using the GTK libraries and
> run on Ubuntu and runs perfectly in 9.10->9.04->8.10 and even 8.04.
> 
> Then compile the same program in Ubuntu 8.04 and I run it in reverse
> order.8.04->8.10->9.04->9.10.and runs perfectly. Glibc does not throw
> errors.
> 
> It seems that when setting a part, then disrupts the other.
> 
> I have not wanted to try with QT yet, until you can fix this.
> 
> It could be that the component gb.gtk there deprecated functions?,and so
> the program runs only in some versions,It's just an idea.
> 
> no longer know what to think. Any ideas?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarzua
> 

>Please can you try to polish your english and provide information as much as 
>possible, because some sentences are not 100% clear to me, and so it's 
>knowledge about.

>Anyway, did you look at Google Earth installation on Linux? This is a "caned" 
>Qt4-based program, so maybe you cann look at how they do?

>Regards,

Sorry for my English. I try to write in paragraphs for you to understand me.
Obviously, I did not succeed ;=).

Yes, I have tested Google Earth installer. Work with the same design concept.

Just install the QT libraries that come with kdelibs4-dev (For Ubuntu).

But this same installer has problems with some versions of Ubuntu.Version 5 has problems with StreetView (The cameras do not appear in the right places).
 and it seems that Google is not interested in fixing them.

Well, GTK 1, Me 0

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua







From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 16 02:48:13 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:48:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 and postgresql indexes
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinay2Td0HoujFofK7frQNbdDiURivCtMo_MwdsP@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinay2Td0HoujFofK7frQNbdDiURivCtMo_MwdsP@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009160248.13990.gambas@...1...>

> Hi Beno?t
> 
> have You some news about it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Emanuele

Yep. It should be fixed in revision #3222.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 16 02:58:09 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:58:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Another issue on postgresql compenent in gb3 (gb2
	also fails)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik4gazm-8dJabDO91c68sQgY9WA1rP90gLJMxDf@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik4gazm-8dJabDO91c68sQgY9WA1rP90gLJMxDf@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009160258.09140.gambas@...1...>

> Signal #11 error  is raised running the following procedure:
> 
> DIM hConn AS NEW Connection
>   DIM hResult AS Result
>   DIM sAziende AS String
>   DIM SCriteria AS String = "ulogin=&1"
>   DIM sParameter AS String = "emanuele"
>   WITH hConn
>     .Host = "azienda"
>     .Port = "5432"
>     .Type = "postgresql"
>     .Name = "gbputenti"
>     .Login = "gbpneus"
>     .Password = "7CPuSuvADGqp"
>   END WITH
>   TRY hConn.Open()
> '   hResult = hConn.Exec("select * from utenti where ulogin='emanuele'") <-
> this run fine
>   hConn.Find("utenti", SCriteria, sParameter) <-- This fails
>   sAziende = hResult!uaziende
>   hConn.Close()

The bug should be fixed in revision #3223.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From shanep at ...2481...  Thu Sep 16 03:45:57 2010
From: shanep at ...2481... (Shane)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:45:57 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Frame
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=q8uSaaPAhr3hd51WTCv1HFHrapDGgQWopyyN5@...627...>
References: <4C8E139D.6010301@...2481...>	<201009131446.49691.gambas@...1...>	<4C8E1FFC.7070008@...2481...>
	<AANLkTi=q8uSaaPAhr3hd51WTCv1HFHrapDGgQWopyyN5@...627...>
Message-ID: <4C9176D5.7020808@...2481...>

On 13/09/10 23:06, Fabien Bodard wrote:
> 2010/9/13 Shane<shanep at ...2481...>:
>    
>> On 13/09/10 22:46, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>      
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>
>>>> I'm using the latest svn of gambas3 and was wondering where the border
>>>> property
>>>> for the frame control has gone?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> The frame is drawn by the toolkit, not by Gambas, so I think it has gone
>>> because of your widget style.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Hi Benoit
>> Not sure I know what you mean. how do I change my widget style ?
>>      
> by changing the kde theme !
>
> And just to talk ... this problem have been signaled... near to 34 time now...
>
> Benoit is it possible to add this in the faq ?
>
>    
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
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>>      
>
>
>    
Ok So is possible to have a border around a frame in ide at design time 
so it
is easier to place other controls in relation to the frame etc




From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep 16 05:02:17 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:02:17 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
Message-ID: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>

Ubuntu : 10.4
Gambas : 2.99
Gnome  : 2.30.2

[gb.form]

* test ColorButton : When selecting a color, the button does not display
the selected color.

[gb.qt4]

* Test Form  : Fmain.center not positioned in the center of the screen,
the form

Regards

Cristian Abarzua




From dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...  Thu Sep 16 05:55:10 2010
From: dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312... (Dag Jarle Johansen)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:55:10 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
In-Reply-To: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>
References: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP208D20DA17E6CF8CF7F1030F97A0@...693...>

Hi Cristian,

do you never sleep - lol 

Sorry, just a joke, 

I have experienced that too, but watch up for Ubuntu/Gnome: If you have
loaded and use a particular skin for Gnome, it may happen that all
buttons stay transparent for example, no matter what you do - a little
annoying. If you stay with the origin themes of Ubuntu it does not
happen. I have the same versions as you except I use Gambas 2.99 rev.
2... something. And, if you should have seen the bug-report of Ubuntu
lately - there are massive errors in the GUI, so I would wait a little
and try again, I do not think this is a Gambas-error mainly. 

Regards,
Dag-Jarle



Am Mittwoch, den 15.09.2010, 23:02 -0400 schrieb craf:

> Ubuntu : 10.4
> Gambas : 2.99
> Gnome  : 2.30.2
> 
> [gb.form]
> 
> * test ColorButton : When selecting a color, the button does not display
> the selected color.
> 
> [gb.qt4]
> 
> * Test Form  : Fmain.center not positioned in the center of the screen,
> the form
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarzua
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
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> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user




From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep 16 06:15:46 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:15:46 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP208D20DA17E6CF8CF7F1030F97A0@...693...>
References: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>
	<BLU0-SMTP208D20DA17E6CF8CF7F1030F97A0@...693...>
Message-ID: <1284610546.1672.7.camel@...2406...>

Hi Dag

The test I do is just to see if other users have the same problem, or
just I have it. The tests always performed in a clean install of ubuntu,
without changing anything.Anyway, thank you very much for the advice.
And if , I do not sleep, I'm a robot mail. ja,ja.

Best Regards

Cristian Abarz?a F.

>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Dag Jarle Johansen <dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...>
>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
>Fecha: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:55:10 -0300

>Hi Cristian,

>do you never sleep - lol 

>Sorry, just a joke, 

>I have experienced that too, but watch up for Ubuntu/Gnome: If you have
>loaded and use a particular skin for Gnome, it may happen that all
>buttons stay transparent for example, no matter what you do - a little
>annoying. If you stay with the origin themes of Ubuntu it does not
>happen. I have the same versions as you except I use Gambas 2.99 rev.
>2... something. And, if you should have seen the bug-report of Ubuntu
>lately - there are massive errors in the GUI, so I would wait a little
>and try again, I do not think this is a Gambas-error mainly. 

>Regards,
>Dag-Jarle



Am Mittwoch, den 15.09.2010, 23:02 -0400 schrieb craf:

> Ubuntu : 10.4
> Gambas : 2.99
> Gnome  : 2.30.2
> 
> [gb.form]
> 
> * test ColorButton : When selecting a color, the button does not display
> the selected color.
> 
> [gb.qt4]
> 
> * Test Form  : Fmain.center not positioned in the center of the screen,
> the form
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarzua
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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From dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...  Thu Sep 16 06:24:30 2010
From: dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312... (Dag Jarle Johansen)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:24:30 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
In-Reply-To: <1284610546.1672.7.camel@...2406...>
References: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>
	<BLU0-SMTP208D20DA17E6CF8CF7F1030F97A0@...693...>
	<1284610546.1672.7.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP168BFFA613FD6CD33BEC3E3F97A0@...693...>

Hola Cristian, 

as I can read out of your ja ja you are speaking Spanish? In rest of
Europe, where it is possible to pronounce H, you would have said ha ha -
nevertheless -I am just trying out your stuff - it is only a few lines,
so I will have it in a moment.

Saludos,
Dag-Jarle


Am Donnerstag, den 16.09.2010, 00:15 -0400 schrieb craf:

> Hi Dag
> 
> The test I do is just to see if other users have the same problem, or
> just I have it. The tests always performed in a clean install of ubuntu,
> without changing anything.Anyway, thank you very much for the advice.
> And if , I do not sleep, I'm a robot mail. ja,ja.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarz?a F.
> 
> >-----Mensaje original-----
> >De: Dag Jarle Johansen <dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...>
> >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
> >Fecha: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:55:10 -0300
> 
> >Hi Cristian,
> 
> >do you never sleep - lol 
> 
> >Sorry, just a joke, 
> 
> >I have experienced that too, but watch up for Ubuntu/Gnome: If you have
> >loaded and use a particular skin for Gnome, it may happen that all
> >buttons stay transparent for example, no matter what you do - a little
> >annoying. If you stay with the origin themes of Ubuntu it does not
> >happen. I have the same versions as you except I use Gambas 2.99 rev.
> >2... something. And, if you should have seen the bug-report of Ubuntu
> >lately - there are massive errors in the GUI, so I would wait a little
> >and try again, I do not think this is a Gambas-error mainly. 
> 
> >Regards,
> >Dag-Jarle
> 
> 
> 
> Am Mittwoch, den 15.09.2010, 23:02 -0400 schrieb craf:
> 
> > Ubuntu : 10.4
> > Gambas : 2.99
> > Gnome  : 2.30.2
> > 
> > [gb.form]
> > 
> > * test ColorButton : When selecting a color, the button does not display
> > the selected color.
> > 
> > [gb.qt4]
> > 
> > * Test Form  : Fmain.center not positioned in the center of the screen,
> > the form
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Cristian Abarzua
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
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From dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...  Thu Sep 16 06:27:10 2010
From: dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312... (Dag Jarle Johansen)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:27:10 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
In-Reply-To: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>
References: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP10462F87DC089A0991B1025F97A0@...693...>

Dag-Jarle  once again, done it now, this is just a matter of minutes,

I cant sleep either, so it does not matter. I have tried it out, one
theme with Ubuntu origin; selected colour comes ok. (On a Label and
button). With another theme I downloaded, named ups yet I have lost it,
I did it the opposite way. Anyway, NO colours at all was to seen,
whether on button, either on the label - all was transparent. With an
origin theme of Ubuntu everything was clearly present. But the centre of
the screen was not centre - I have al little  monitor, 17", and it came
up pretty close to the right. I reckon, this is a Gnome-bug, not even a
Ubuntu-bug - we will see what the colleges have to tell us about it. 

Ups, and I see it now, at last, you are testing Gambas 2,99 - Ok , the
the revision will perhaps be important. Sorry to say, have forgotten how
you get that out, tried "rev" under trunk, noting happened. 

Regards
Dag-Jarle




Am Mittwoch, den 15.09.2010, 23:02 -0400 schrieb craf:

> Ubuntu : 10.4
> Gambas : 2.99
> Gnome  : 2.30.2
> 
> [gb.form]
> 
> * test ColorButton : When selecting a color, the button does not display
> the selected color.
> 
> [gb.qt4]
> 
> * Test Form  : Fmain.center not positioned in the center of the screen,
> the form
> 
> Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarzua
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user




From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep 16 06:31:22 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:31:22 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP168BFFA613FD6CD33BEC3E3F97A0@...693...>
References: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>
	<BLU0-SMTP208D20DA17E6CF8CF7F1030F97A0@...693...>
	<1284610546.1672.7.camel@...2406...>
	<BLU0-SMTP168BFFA613FD6CD33BEC3E3F97A0@...693...>
Message-ID: <1284611482.1672.9.camel@...2406...>

Hi Dag.

Ok. Thanks for the tip. Then ha,ha indicates laughter ;=). I see you
like the Spanish.

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua F.

>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Dag Jarle Johansen <dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...>
>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
>Fecha: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:24:30 -0300

>Hola Cristian, 

>as I can read out of your ja ja you are speaking Spanish? In rest of
>Europe, where it is possible to pronounce H, you would have said ha ha -
>nevertheless -I am just trying out your stuff - it is only a few lines,
>so I will have it in a moment.

>Saludos,
>Dag-Jarle


Am Donnerstag, den 16.09.2010, 00:15 -0400 schrieb craf:

> Hi Dag
> 
> The test I do is just to see if other users have the same problem, or
> just I have it. The tests always performed in a clean install of ubuntu,
> without changing anything.Anyway, thank you very much for the advice.
> And if , I do not sleep, I'm a robot mail. ja,ja.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Cristian Abarz?a F.
> 
> >-----Mensaje original-----
> >De: Dag Jarle Johansen <dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...>
> >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
> >Fecha: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:55:10 -0300
> 
> >Hi Cristian,
> 
> >do you never sleep - lol 
> 
> >Sorry, just a joke, 
> 
> >I have experienced that too, but watch up for Ubuntu/Gnome: If you have
> >loaded and use a particular skin for Gnome, it may happen that all
> >buttons stay transparent for example, no matter what you do - a little
> >annoying. If you stay with the origin themes of Ubuntu it does not
> >happen. I have the same versions as you except I use Gambas 2.99 rev.
> >2... something. And, if you should have seen the bug-report of Ubuntu
> >lately - there are massive errors in the GUI, so I would wait a little
> >and try again, I do not think this is a Gambas-error mainly. 
> 
> >Regards,
> >Dag-Jarle
> 
> 
> 
> Am Mittwoch, den 15.09.2010, 23:02 -0400 schrieb craf:
> 
> > Ubuntu : 10.4
> > Gambas : 2.99
> > Gnome  : 2.30.2
> > 
> > [gb.form]
> > 
> > * test ColorButton : When selecting a color, the button does not display
> > the selected color.
> > 
> > [gb.qt4]
> > 
> > * Test Form  : Fmain.center not positioned in the center of the screen,
> > the form
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Cristian Abarzua
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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From dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...  Thu Sep 16 07:09:45 2010
From: dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312... (Dag Jarle Johansen)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:09:45 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
In-Reply-To: <1284611482.1672.9.camel@...2406...>
References: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>
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Hola, Cristian,

yes I do, first my family has a house close to Estepona, Andalucia,
second - I live in Argentina - jaja.

Saludos y suerte
Da-Jarle


Am Donnerstag, den 16.09.2010, 00:31 -0400 schrieb craf:

> Hi Dag.
> 
> Ok. Thanks for the tip. Then ha,ha indicates laughter ;=). I see you
> like the Spanish.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F.
> 
> >-----Mensaje original-----
> >De: Dag Jarle Johansen <dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...>
> >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
> >Fecha: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:24:30 -0300
> 
> >Hola Cristian, 
> 
> >as I can read out of your ja ja you are speaking Spanish? In rest of
> >Europe, where it is possible to pronounce H, you would have said ha ha -
> >nevertheless -I am just trying out your stuff - it is only a few lines,
> >so I will have it in a moment.
> 
> >Saludos,
> >Dag-Jarle
> 
> 
> Am Donnerstag, den 16.09.2010, 00:15 -0400 schrieb craf:
> 
> > Hi Dag
> > 
> > The test I do is just to see if other users have the same problem, or
> > just I have it. The tests always performed in a clean install of ubuntu,
> > without changing anything.Anyway, thank you very much for the advice.
> > And if , I do not sleep, I'm a robot mail. ja,ja.
> > 
> > Best Regards
> > 
> > Cristian Abarz?a F.
> > 
> > >-----Mensaje original-----
> > >De: Dag Jarle Johansen <dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...>
> > >Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> > ><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> > >Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> > >Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
> > >Fecha: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:55:10 -0300
> > 
> > >Hi Cristian,
> > 
> > >do you never sleep - lol 
> > 
> > >Sorry, just a joke, 
> > 
> > >I have experienced that too, but watch up for Ubuntu/Gnome: If you have
> > >loaded and use a particular skin for Gnome, it may happen that all
> > >buttons stay transparent for example, no matter what you do - a little
> > >annoying. If you stay with the origin themes of Ubuntu it does not
> > >happen. I have the same versions as you except I use Gambas 2.99 rev.
> > >2... something. And, if you should have seen the bug-report of Ubuntu
> > >lately - there are massive errors in the GUI, so I would wait a little
> > >and try again, I do not think this is a Gambas-error mainly. 
> > 
> > >Regards,
> > >Dag-Jarle
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Am Mittwoch, den 15.09.2010, 23:02 -0400 schrieb craf:
> > 
> > > Ubuntu : 10.4
> > > Gambas : 2.99
> > > Gnome  : 2.30.2
> > > 
> > > [gb.form]
> > > 
> > > * test ColorButton : When selecting a color, the button does not display
> > > the selected color.
> > > 
> > > [gb.qt4]
> > > 
> > > * Test Form  : Fmain.center not positioned in the center of the screen,
> > > the form
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Cristian Abarzua
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> > > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> > > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Gambas-user mailing list
> > > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep 16 07:29:06 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:29:06 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems installing Gambas3. Rev 3223
Message-ID: <1284614946.1672.15.camel@...2406...>

Hi.

Do not know what happened, because I can not compile the 3223 version.

. / Configure shows: WARNING: Unable to find file: libintl.so
		     WARNING: Unable to find file: libiconv.so

Attached file output.txt

Regards

Cristian Abarzua F.
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From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Thu Sep 16 07:57:08 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:57:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik09ri49BTfNhkUSE+JbuZijiKCbGqbSi=sQ8CB@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>	<4C90C14D.4090309@...1909...>
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Message-ID: <4C91B1B4.1030305@...1909...>

Fabi?n Flores Vadell ha scritto:
>
>> Your proposal resembles the syntax of pascal - I like pascal, and use it
>> a lot; but the biggest annoyance of pascal is this double declaration in
>> interface and implementation: very clean and very logical - for a
>> compiler from 1970.
>>     
>
> Oh! Lisp come from fifties, but many current languages do not reach
> their ankles :-)  (I'm not referring to Gambas)
>   
I am not saying that because a language is old, it's bad. In fact, I 
still think that pascal is hard to beat, if you embrace its philosophy. 
And about lisp... wonderful! Especially for teaching. But how many 
applications you find, written in lisp, nowadays?

>> I don't think that substituting PRIVATE and PUBLIC
>> with INTERFACE and IMPLEMENTATION would save typing, may be sometimes...
>>     
>
> You forgot argue about your opinion. But, please, pay attention when
> you read: I'm saying about an << alternative >> syntax.
>   
Ok, I will argue about it. From what I understand, the paradigm you 
describe looks similar to pascal (and C++): an interface section 
declares all the public symbols, which will be detailed (implemented) 
later. So every method declaration must be written twice, in interface 
and in implementation. And this alone is a lot of typing. When the 
number of lines between interface and implementation grows to several 
screens, you start to navigate up and down in the source. A good 
editor/IDE can help, but the problem remains: why we have to write the 
same things twice? Perhaps because a compiler born in the '70 could not 
read the same source twice, especially if that source was punched on 
cards... it is no surprise that a pascal compiler, on modern computers, 
is so fast: the program is written in a way totally good for the compiler!

So, I prefer the gambas way - you write things once, exactly where you 
want, and the compiler does the rest.

You say that your proposal is only an <<alternative>>. Ok. Even an 
alternative, an option, must respond to good criteria. I am not saying 
that your proposal is wrong - simply I think that probably it is not 
what a gambas user expects. To let you know, I am probably the most 
critic user of gambas - I am not afraid to point out its weaknesses. But 
this time, I think that gambas is right.

>> The validation mechanism seems pretty, but does not add anything to the
>> more general form of getter/setter. Just more readable by a human (which
>> is not too little, anyway).
>>     
>
> Yes. Nothing must be change in background. Just is about readability,
> and syntax  closer to OOP
>
>   
>> May be that there can be a midway idea: to have PUBLIC and PRIVATE
>> inherited from the last declaration. You specify PUBLIC at the
>> beginning, and then write variables and methods. Then you specify
>> PRIVATE, and then write all the private part of the class. This way, you
>> get closer to your proposal, still having the possibility to mix public
>> and private declarations.
>>     
>
> I proposed exactly that, time ago to Beno?t. But, because I'm
> referring to a alternative syntax closer to OOP, I think that
> INTERFACE and IMPLEMENTATION keywords are more accurated. That they
> exist in Pascal from nineties is just anecdotal, and not detract
> merits to them.
>
> A very important advantage, was not emphasized enough: keywords closer
> to OOP help very much to teaching an OOP language, because them are
> closely related to the OOP concepts.
>   
Uhm... I don't understand why interface and implementation should be 
related in any way to OOP. Don't forget that the gambas way of having 
form=class=module/unit/library/whatever=file is a gambas specific 
simplification. More mature languages can declare more than one class in 
a file, or use more files to declare a single class. Interface and 
implementation existed before OOP was invented, and OOP can live without 
them; these two keywords are simply a way to group declarations - be 
them OOP declarations or not.

I want to say just another thing. It seems that you are proposing 
changes to gambas without having tried it enough. The same happened to 
me - it is normal: you start to use something new, and many things are 
different from what you expect or desire. A bit (or a lot) of adaptation 
is needed - computers are not so powerful to adapt themselves to human 
beings. After some time, and two or three non-trivial applications 
written in gambas, you will change your mind - you will begin to 
appreciate it more than now. If not, you will then, and only then, 
entitled to criticize. I am not saying that gambas is perfect: I feel 
that you and me share many thoughts about programming, but I repeat: 
give gambas some time.

Regards,
Doriano


From sotema at ...626...  Thu Sep 16 09:52:15 2010
From: sotema at ...626... (emanuele sottocorno)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:52:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Another issue on postgresql compenent in gb3 (gb2
	also fails)
Message-ID: <AANLkTimMkcmGMcRbaZRJe+fAf06ykmQq-BJSpDKeveD=@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Beno?t,
thanks for the answer.
I'm trying to install rev 3223 bat make fails with error:

SDLfont.cpp:222: error: ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in this
scope
SDLfont.cpp:225: error: ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in this
scope
SDLfont.cpp: In member function ?bool
SDLfont::IsFontStrikeout()?:SDLfont.cpp:230: error:
?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in this scope
make[4]: *** [SDLfont.lo] Errore 1make[4]: uscita dalla directory
?/home/emanuele/Gambas3/trunk/gb.sdl/src?


From lordheavym at ...626...  Thu Sep 16 10:11:48 2010
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:11:48 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Another issue on postgresql compenent in gb3 (gb2
	also fails)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMkcmGMcRbaZRJe+fAf06ykmQq-BJSpDKeveD=@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimMkcmGMcRbaZRJe+fAf06ykmQq-BJSpDKeveD=@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201009161011.48108.lordheavym@...626...>

Le jeudi 16 septembre 2010 09:52:15, emanuele sottocorno a ?crit :
> Hi Beno?t,
> thanks for the answer.
> I'm trying to install rev 3223 bat make fails with error:
> 
> SDLfont.cpp:222: error: ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in this
> scope
> SDLfont.cpp:225: error: ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in this
> scope
> SDLfont.cpp: In member function ?bool
> SDLfont::IsFontStrikeout()?:SDLfont.cpp:230: error:
> ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in this scope
> make[4]: *** [SDLfont.lo] Errore 1make[4]: uscita dalla directory
> ?/home/emanuele/Gambas3/trunk/gb.sdl/src?

Just looked at the SDL_ttf changelog, you need SDL_ttf 2.0.10

Regards,



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 16 12:46:46 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:46:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Another issue on postgresql compenent in gb3 (gb2
	also fails)
In-Reply-To: <201009161011.48108.lordheavym@...626...>
References: <AANLkTimMkcmGMcRbaZRJe+fAf06ykmQq-BJSpDKeveD=@mail.gmail.com>
	<201009161011.48108.lordheavym@...626...>
Message-ID: <201009161246.46209.gambas@...1...>

> Le jeudi 16 septembre 2010 09:52:15, emanuele sottocorno a ?crit :
> > Hi Beno?t,
> > thanks for the answer.
> > I'm trying to install rev 3223 bat make fails with error:
> > 
> > SDLfont.cpp:222: error: ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in
> > this scope
> > SDLfont.cpp:225: error: ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in
> > this scope
> > SDLfont.cpp: In member function ?bool
> > SDLfont::IsFontStrikeout()?:SDLfont.cpp:230: error:
> > ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in this scope
> > make[4]: *** [SDLfont.lo] Errore 1make[4]: uscita dalla directory
> > ?/home/emanuele/Gambas3/trunk/gb.sdl/src?
> 
> Just looked at the SDL_ttf changelog, you need SDL_ttf 2.0.10
> 
> Regards,
> 

I have the same problem, I have only SDL_ttf 2.0.9 on Mandriva 2010.1. Maybe 
you should use #ifdef to check the SDL_ttf version, because apparently SDL_ttf 
2.0.10 is too new for many people!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 16 12:52:08 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:52:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Another issue on postgresql compenent in gb3 (gb2
	also fails)
In-Reply-To: <201009161246.46209.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTimMkcmGMcRbaZRJe+fAf06ykmQq-BJSpDKeveD=@mail.gmail.com>
	<201009161011.48108.lordheavym@...626...>
	<201009161246.46209.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <201009161252.08682.gambas@...1...>

> > Le jeudi 16 septembre 2010 09:52:15, emanuele sottocorno a ?crit :
> > > Hi Beno?t,
> > > thanks for the answer.
> > > I'm trying to install rev 3223 bat make fails with error:
> > > 
> > > SDLfont.cpp:222: error: ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in
> > > this scope
> > > SDLfont.cpp:225: error: ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in
> > > this scope
> > > SDLfont.cpp: In member function ?bool
> > > SDLfont::IsFontStrikeout()?:SDLfont.cpp:230: error:
> > > ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in this scope
> > > make[4]: *** [SDLfont.lo] Errore 1make[4]: uscita dalla directory
> > > ?/home/emanuele/Gambas3/trunk/gb.sdl/src?
> > 
> > Just looked at the SDL_ttf changelog, you need SDL_ttf 2.0.10
> > 
> > Regards,
> 
> I have the same problem, I have only SDL_ttf 2.0.9 on Mandriva 2010.1.
> Maybe you should use #ifdef to check the SDL_ttf version, because
> apparently SDL_ttf 2.0.10 is too new for many people!
> 
> Regards,

I made a temporary fix for that in revision #3224.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 16 12:53:55 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:53:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Form.Enabled = False
In-Reply-To: <4C8D56DB.3090700@...221...>
References: <4C8933DB.6080109@...221...>
	<201009130014.22413.gambas@...1...>
	<4C8D56DB.3090700@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009161253.55916.gambas@...1...>

> Sorry, I don't understand.
> How can I "implement the event handler"?
> Confused
> Matti
> 

"implement the event handler" means that you wrote a "Public Sub 
MyControl_Event()" function to handle an event. If you do not write an event 
handler, the event is not sent.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From lordheavym at ...626...  Thu Sep 16 14:30:46 2010
From: lordheavym at ...626... (Laurent Carlier)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:30:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Another issue on postgresql compenent in gb3 (gb2
	also fails)
In-Reply-To: <201009161252.08682.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTimMkcmGMcRbaZRJe+fAf06ykmQq-BJSpDKeveD=@mail.gmail.com>
	<201009161246.46209.gambas@...1...>
	<201009161252.08682.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <201009161430.46414.lordheavym@...626...>

Le jeudi 16 septembre 2010 12:52:08, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > > Le jeudi 16 septembre 2010 09:52:15, emanuele sottocorno a ?crit :
> > > > Hi Beno?t,
> > > > thanks for the answer.
> > > > I'm trying to install rev 3223 bat make fails with error:
> > > > 
> > > > SDLfont.cpp:222: error: ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in
> > > > this scope
> > > > SDLfont.cpp:225: error: ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in
> > > > this scope
> > > > SDLfont.cpp: In member function ?bool
> > > > SDLfont::IsFontStrikeout()?:SDLfont.cpp:230: error:
> > > > ?TTF_STYLE_STRIKETHROUGH? was not declared in this scope
> > > > make[4]: *** [SDLfont.lo] Errore 1make[4]: uscita dalla directory
> > > > ?/home/emanuele/Gambas3/trunk/gb.sdl/src?
> > > 
> > > Just looked at the SDL_ttf changelog, you need SDL_ttf 2.0.10
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > 
> > I have the same problem, I have only SDL_ttf 2.0.9 on Mandriva 2010.1.
> > Maybe you should use #ifdef to check the SDL_ttf version, because
> > apparently SDL_ttf 2.0.10 is too new for many people!
> > 
> > Regards,
> 
> I made a temporary fix for that in revision #3224.
> 
> Regards,

I've removed strikeout property, as it's not really an important feature.

Regards,



From prog at ...2177...  Thu Sep 16 16:27:05 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:27:05 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Problems installing Gambas3. Rev 3223 [SOLVED]
In-Reply-To: <1284614946.1672.15.camel@...2406...>
References: <1284614946.1672.15.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <1284647225.1620.1.camel@...2406...>

Solved with Rev 3226.

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua F

>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: craf <prog at ...2177...>
>Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
><gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Para: Lista Gambas Ingles <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
>Asunto: [Gambas-user] Problems installing Gambas3. Rev 3223
>Fecha: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:29:06 -0400

>Hi.

>Do not know what happened, because I can not compile the 3223 version.

>. / Configure shows: WARNING: Unable to find file: libintl.so
		     WARNING: Unable to find file: libiconv.so

>Attached file output.txt

>Regards

>Cristian Abarzua F.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
>http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
_>______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user






From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 16 16:52:24 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:52:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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> Hi Beno?t. Below I expose some suggestions for new and alternative
> keywords.
> 
> PUBLIC and PRIVATE keywords defines the scope for attributes and
> methods, but this words come from (or evokes) modular/structured
> programming. Because PUBLIC methods and attributes (and properties)
> define the interface for a class, I think that a good and alternative
> syntax could be based in new keyword like INTERFACE, IMPLEMENTATION,
> METHOD, ATTRIBUTE, PROPERTY, VALIDATE, etc.
> 
> Example:
> 
> PUBLIC Name AS String
> PUBLIC LastName AS String
> 
> PRIVATE iAge AS Byte
> 
> PROPERTY Age AS Byte
> 
> PRIVATE FUNCTION Age_Read() AS Byte
>   RETURN iAge
> END
> 
> PRIVATE SUB Age_Write(Value AS Byte)
>   IF Value >= MinAge THEN
>     iAge = Value
>   ELSE
>      Error.Raise("Age have to equal or greater than: " & MinAge)
>   ENDIF
> END
> 
> PUBLIC SUB DoSomething()
>   . . .
> END
> 
> PUBLIC FUNCTION DoSomethingElse() AS String
>   . . .
> END
> 
> PRIVATE SUB DoSomething1()
>   . . .
> END
> 
> PRIVATE FUNCTION DoSomethingElse1() AS String
>   . . .
> END
> 
> -----------------
> 
> Become:
> 
> 
> INTERFACE
> 
>   'Attribute keyword is optional
>   ATTRIBUTE Name, LastName AS String
> 
>   'Defines an attribute that is part of interface class and is
> accessed by dot notation (AnObject.Age, AnObject.Age=34)
>   PROPERTY Age AS Byte
>     'Validate when property is written (WHEN WRITE is optional because
> is the default)
>     'When Write: just in case, so When Read could exist too.
>     VALIDATE WHEN WRITE Age >= MinAge
>       'Unsucessfull is a long word, may be there's other better
>       UNSUCESSFULL Error.Raise("Age have to equal or greater than: " &
> MinAge)
> 
>   'METHOD keyword is optional
>   METHOD DoSomething()
>     . . .
>   END
> 
>   METHOD DoSomethingElse() AS String
>     . . .
>   END
> 
> 
> IMPLEMENTATION
> 
>   CONST MinAge AS Byte = 28
> 
>   . . .
> 
>   'Same name is used in INTERFACE: this would possible because the
> scope is different
>   METHOD DoSomething()
>     . . .
>   END
> 
>   METHOD DoSomethingElse() AS String
>     . . .
>   END
> 
> ------------
> Advantages
> 
> * More expressive code (smells a bit declarative)
> * Is needed to write less code (50% in this example)
> * keywords are closer to OOP
> * More easy to teach
> 
> Disadvantages
> 
> * This code not seems BASIC neither Gambas (that is why this syntax
> should be alternative)
> * Is difficult to implement?
> 
> 
> What do you think?
> 

(1) First, you must realize that the syntax is not the implementation. In a 
more general way, the word is not the thing. We are confused by that all the 
life. :-)

So, replacing one word (for example PUBLIC) by another (ATTRIBUTE), whereas 
the implementation is the same behind is not a good idea, because then this is 
not BASIC anymore.

I don't mean that the current syntax better, but that as I chose to implement 
a BASIC, I have to follow something that looks like the common usages in other 
languages.

If I had decided to create a new syntax from scratch (usually people says 'a 
new language from scratch'), of course things would be different. I would have 
used the C syntax like Java or Javascript. :-)


(2) I find your VALIDATE / UNSUCCESSFUL... useless, as you introduce a lot of 
syntactic sugar for something that is actually not so frequent.


(3) On the other hand, it might be a good idea to allow the user to separate 
the public and the private thing. 

Note that I am not agree with the common separation between "interface" and 
"implementation". In the real life, they are not separated. A good interface 
usually leads directly to the implementation. Or the interface surface from a 
good implementation. :-)

Doriano's idea may be good: when PUBLIC or PRIVATE is alone on his line, 
everything after is declared PUBLIC (or PRIVATE) by default. That way, you can 
write:

PUBLIC
' The "interface"
' ...

PRIVATE
' The "implementation"
' ...

Maybe the right way to deal with code organization is an editor that is not 
line-based, but that split the source code between its different parts, and 
present it to the user in a hierarchical way.

But as long as I am faster with a normal text editor, I won't go that way. :-)

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 16 17:07:13 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:07:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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> 
> Hum many sugars are possible in gambas ... but i'm ot the master ...
> wait for Benoit ... i'm just a slave ... a poor slave... :P
> 
> 
> I've query some things too :
> 
> For each type in array  must return only object of type 'Type'
> 
> why not "MyString".Len() ? or MyStringVar.Mid(2,1), or
> myString.Instr("v",3)

That syntactic sugar could be possible. After I did 'Mid$(String,X,Y) = ...'.

> 
> why not declare the var on need ?
> 
> (String)MyString = i + 2
> 
> (String[])aValue = ["titi", "toto"]
> 

Not declaring the type of the variable is a big problem. The type must be 
computed by the compiler, that will become slower. And the compiler will fail 
most of the time, as soon as the data comes from another unknown class, so...

Anyway, not declaring the type of a variable is a bad idea. You see it when 
you start to debug a program. Try with more than 100 lines of javascript and 
you will see.

But there is another opportunity. A very Gambas-specific one.

The interpreter does type computing at run-time, so that it can optimize most 
of the bytecode.

When it enters a function, the interpreter initializes each local variable 
with its datatype.

So we can imagine that when the interpreter does nothing for a local variable, 
the local variable takes its datatype from its first assignment. That way, 
only local variables could be undeclared.

But I don't like it anyway, because if you make a mistake in an identifier 
name, instead of an error, you may get a new local variable automatically 
declared and a new bug hard to detect at first sight between thousands lines 
of code.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From sotema at ...626...  Thu Sep 16 18:00:34 2010
From: sotema at ...626... (emanuele sottocorno)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:00:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Another issue on postgresql compenent in gb3 (gb2
	also fails)
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Thanks to all,
everything works fine now. Also the Tables.Indexes.Add

Emanuele


From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Thu Sep 16 22:20:49 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (tobias)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:20:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] someshort="xy" returns "Wanted short,
 got string instead"
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hi,

> 
> tobias-47 wrote:
>> i forgot the asc() functions, of course:
>>
>> PUBLIC FUNCTION GetShort(sWord AS String) AS Short
>>
>> 	RETURN Asc(Mid$(sWord, 1, 1)) * 256 + Asc(Mid$(sWord, 2, 1))
>>
>> END
>>
>> or alternatively, you can assign the positions in the asc() function, like
>>
>> RETURN Asc(sWord, 1) * 256 + Asc(sWord, 2)
>>
> 
> Thanks Tobi, I'll give that a try if it becomes the only option. Hopefully
> there's something I can do like a variable pointer, so the data can
> basically just be copied from the string directly. This is for a real-time
> game so any inefficiencies can cause it to "hang" for a second and interrupt
> the smoothness of play.
> 
> 
> Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>> I can say, somebyte=ASC("x"), but is it possible to quickly assign a
>>> two-byte string to a typical two-byte short?
>> It's a bad idea. What do you want to do exactly?
>>
> 
> Hi Beno?t. Maybe there's a better way for me to have come to this point, but
> here's what's happening:
> 
> A server app retrieves sets of data from five binary files and stores them
> consecutively in a string. The first set is a 48x48 grid of shorts for a
> total of 4608 bytes (48x48x1x2). The last four sets are 48x48 grids of bytes
> for a total of 9216 bytes (48x48x4x1). So in total we have 13824 bytes (2304
> shorts and 9216 bytes), converted to one large string something like this:
> 
> DIM data AS String
> DIM chunk AS String
> 
> READ #somefileofshorts, chunk, 2
> data = data & chunk
> 
> READ #somefileofbytes, chunk, 1
> data = data & chunk
> 
> Normally I might read the shorts into an array of shorts, but in this case
> the final string is sent to a client app as a UDP packet. I also need to
> send all the data as a single packet rather than several. The client app
> receives the packet and parses it, assigning the floats and bytes of the
> payload to five 48x48 element arrays like this:
> 
> DIM somearray AS Short[48, 48]
> 
> somearray[x, y] =  Mid$(payload, position, 2)
> 
> It needs to make that string to short conversion 2304 times (48x48) in as
> little time as possible.
> 
> I can only think of two solutions here. One is to find a way to convert a
> two-character string to a short as quickly as possible (the subject of the
> post), and the other is to change the way I'm collecting the data to be sent
> as a UDP packet so that it can be read more "normally" by the client. The
> UDP_Read procedure is generic however, and has no way of knowing what kind
> of data is contained within the packet, so that may be difficult at best.
> 
> -----
> Kevin Fishburne, Eight Virtues
> www:  http://sales.eightvirtues.com http://sales.eightvirtues.com 
> e-mail:  mailto:sales at ...1887... sales at ...1887... 
> phone: (770) 853-6271

oh, hum, first: why am i "tobi-47"? :D
well, i searched the web and the doc and the only thing i found related 
to this was the function VarPtr() in the language index which should 
return a pointer to the given variable but for the reason that this 
function is declared as a gambas3 function it wasn't possible for me to 
test it and there seems to be a limitation for strings...
the c++ ways to get a memory address don't work, too, with gambas 
strings (&s is stupid in gambas and s[0] returns "not an object")
sorry...

regards,
tobi



From math.eber at ...221...  Thu Sep 16 22:36:19 2010
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:36:19 +0200
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Yes, of course. Sometimes I am stupid.

Am 16.09.2010 12:53, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> Sorry, I don't understand.
>> How can I "implement the event handler"?
>> Confused
>> Matti
>>
> 
> "implement the event handler" means that you wrote a "Public Sub 
> MyControl_Event()" function to handle an event. If you do not write an event 
> handler, the event is not sent.
> 
> Regards,
> 



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Thu Sep 16 22:39:51 2010
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Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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2010/9/16 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
> Ok, I will argue about it. From what I understand, the paradigm you
> describe looks similar to pascal (and C++): an interface section
> declares all the public symbols, which will be detailed (implemented)
> later. So every method declaration must be written twice, in interface
> and in implementation. And this alone is a lot of typing. When the
> number of lines between interface and implementation grows to several
> screens, you start to navigate up and down in the source. A good
> editor/IDE can help, but the problem remains: why we have to write the
> same things twice? Perhaps because a compiler born in the '70 could not
> read the same source twice, especially if that source was punched on
> cards... it is no surprise that a pascal compiler, on modern computers,
> is so fast: the program is written in a way totally good for the compiler!
>
> So, I prefer the gambas way - you write things once, exactly where you
> want, and the compiler does the rest.

Ok. Now I can understand you.

You mistakenly thought than I meant that "INTERFACE" and
"IMPLEMENTATION" keywords should work as they do in Pascal. But I'm
don't saying that. Nothing about that there's in the example I wrote.

There's no need to double typing.

> You say that your proposal is only an <<alternative>>. Ok. Even an
> alternative, an option, must respond to good criteria. I am not saying
> that your proposal is wrong - simply I think that probably it is not
> what a gambas user expects. To let you know, I am probably the most
> critic user of gambas - I am not afraid to point out its weaknesses. But
> this time, I think that gambas is right.

You are doing a wrong reasoning.

Whatever that user expects is cover by the current syntax. Any new
thing (about syntax), will be unexpected to users and possibly will be
very different from BASIC.

Many examples about that there's in Gambas. Think about a little and
you will find many cases.

>> A very important advantage, was not emphasized enough: keywords closer
>> to OOP help very much to teaching an OOP language, because them are
>> closely related to the OOP concepts.
>>
> Uhm... I don't understand why interface and implementation should be
> related in any way to OOP. Don't forget that the gambas way of having
> form=class=module/unit/library/whatever=file is a gambas specific
> simplification. More mature languages can declare more than one class in
> a file, or use more files to declare a single class. Interface and
> implementation existed before OOP was invented, and OOP can live without
> them; these two keywords are simply a way to group declarations - be
> them OOP declarations or not.

I never said that INTERFACE and IMPLEMENTATION concepts are exclusive
from OOP. But in OOP these concepts are a fundamental consequence of
encapsulation.

> I want to say just another thing. It seems that you are proposing
> changes to gambas without having tried it enough.

You are saying this without arguments.

> beings. After some time, and two or three non-trivial applications
> written in gambas, you will change your mind - you will begin to
> appreciate it more than now. If not, you will then, and only then,
> entitled to criticize. I am not saying that gambas is perfect: I feel
> that you and me share many thoughts about programming, but I repeat:
> give gambas some time.

I am not criticizing Gambas. I am proposing an alternative syntax and
seems that you can't understand that someone want to do that.

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
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From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Thu Sep 16 23:39:01 2010
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2010/9/16 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:

> (1) First, you must realize that the syntax is not the implementation. In a
> more general way, the word is not the thing. We are confused by that all the
> life. :-)

What are you talking about?

> So, replacing one word (for example PUBLIC) by another (ATTRIBUTE), whereas
> the implementation is the same behind is not a good idea, because then this is
> not BASIC anymore.

I'm never said that PUBLIC would be replaced by ATTRIBUTE. That have no sense.

Neither, I never said that my proposed syntax should be replace the current.

> I don't mean that the current syntax better,

The current syntax is fine, but an alternative syntax could be better
for some programmers

> but that as I chose to implement
> a BASIC, I have to follow something that looks like the common usages in other
> languages..

That is not an impediment to an alternative syntax. In fact, Gambas
have alternative syntax for many things:

- Loops
- String functions (VB component)

> (2) I find your VALIDATE / UNSUCCESSFUL... useless, as you introduce a lot of
> syntactic sugar for something that is actually not so frequent.

VALIDATE / UNSUCCESSFUL (they could be other words) allow that
programmer don't have to write getters and setters or properties
unnecessarily. For example, if you define un attribute as part of
class interface is obvious that you want allow its value can be
readed; so, why you have to write a getter?

Similarly, that attribute must be set. So, why write a setter or
_Write method attached to a property?

Ok, you just can define it as PUBLIC and, at least in principle, the
encapsulation would be assured; but, further changes could be more
difficult to do: programmer should change PUBLIC by PRIVATE on this
attribute, define getters and setters or (worse) a property and _READ,
_WRITE methods.

Instead, using INTERFACE/IMPLEMENTATION and VALIDATE only would be
necessary to add a validation.

> (3) On the other hand, it might be a good idea to allow the user to separate
> the public and the private thing.
>
> Note that I am not agree with the common separation between "interface" and
> "implementation". In the real life, they are not separated. A good interface
> usually leads directly to the implementation. Or the interface surface from a
> good implementation. :-)

I don't understand you. In the real life there are many examples as
one and the other: your clothing is an interface and is not part of
you, but your skin is an interface too that is part of you.

Anyway, actually in Gambas the declaration of interface and
implementation are separated by PUBLIC, PRIVATE and PROPERTY keywords.

> Doriano's idea may be good: when PUBLIC or PRIVATE is alone on his line,
> everything after is declared PUBLIC (or PRIVATE) by default. That way, you can
> write:

Oh! That is my idea and I'm going to patent it. :-P

(read below of "or much better")

http://old.nabble.com/Ideas4Gambas-to28782834.html


-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
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From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 16 23:53:57 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:53:57 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] someshort="xy" returns "Wanted short,
	got string instead"
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> > 
> > Hi Beno?t. Maybe there's a better way for me to have come to this point,
> > but here's what's happening:
> > 
> > A server app retrieves sets of data from five binary files and stores
> > them consecutively in a string. The first set is a 48x48 grid of shorts
> > for a total of 4608 bytes (48x48x1x2). The last four sets are 48x48
> > grids of bytes for a total of 9216 bytes (48x48x4x1). So in total we
> > have 13824 bytes (2304 shorts and 9216 bytes), converted to one large
> > string something like this:
> > 
> > DIM data AS String
> > DIM chunk AS String
> > 
> > READ #somefileofshorts, chunk, 2
> > data = data & chunk
> > 
> > READ #somefileofbytes, chunk, 1
> > data = data & chunk
> > 
> > Normally I might read the shorts into an array of shorts, but in this
> > case the final string is sent to a client app as a UDP packet. I also
> > need to send all the data as a single packet rather than several. The
> > client app receives the packet and parses it, assigning the floats and
> > bytes of the payload to five 48x48 element arrays like this:
> > 
> > DIM somearray AS Short[48, 48]
> > 
> > somearray[x, y] =  Mid$(payload, position, 2)
> > 
> > It needs to make that string to short conversion 2304 times (48x48) in as
> > little time as possible.
> > 
> > I can only think of two solutions here. One is to find a way to convert a
> > two-character string to a short as quickly as possible (the subject of
> > the post), and the other is to change the way I'm collecting the data to
> > be sent as a UDP packet so that it can be read more "normally" by the
> > client. The UDP_Read procedure is generic however, and has no way of
> > knowing what kind of data is contained within the packet, so that may be
> > difficult at best.
> > 
> > -----
> > Kevin Fishburne, Eight Virtues
> > www:  http://sales.eightvirtues.com http://sales.eightvirtues.com
> > e-mail:  mailto:sales at ...1887... sales at ...1887...
> > phone: (770) 853-6271

I have neve seen that mail, Kevin. Did it go to the mailing-list?

If I resume, you want to send the contents of an array of short on a UDP 
socket, and get it back on the other end of the socket?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 17 00:06:46 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:06:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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> 2010/9/16 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> > (1) First, you must realize that the syntax is not the implementation. In
> > a more general way, the word is not the thing. We are confused by that
> > all the life. :-)
> 
> What are you talking about?

That, for me, the implementation, i.e. the internals of the interpreter, is 
the most important. The syntax is less important.

> 
> > So, replacing one word (for example PUBLIC) by another (ATTRIBUTE),
> > whereas the implementation is the same behind is not a good idea,
> > because then this is not BASIC anymore.
> 
> I'm never said that PUBLIC would be replaced by ATTRIBUTE. That have no
> sense.

I mean that declaring a public variable with PUBLIC or with ATTRIBUTE is 
always declaring a public variable, with another keyword.

> 
> Neither, I never said that my proposed syntax should be replace the
> current.
> 
> > I don't mean that the current syntax better,
> 
> The current syntax is fine, but an alternative syntax could be better
> for some programmers
> 
> > but that as I chose to implement
> > a BASIC, I have to follow something that looks like the common usages in
> > other languages..
> 
> That is not an impediment to an alternative syntax. In fact, Gambas
> have alternative syntax for many things:
> 
> - Loops
> - String functions (VB component)
> 

The two cases are just exceptions: the first one, because of the common syntax 
of BASIC languages, and the second because of VB, and they are methods of a 
class, not keywords.

Otherwise, I try to limit the number of keywords as much as possible.

> > (2) I find your VALIDATE / UNSUCCESSFUL... useless, as you introduce a
> > lot of syntactic sugar for something that is actually not so frequent.
> 
> VALIDATE / UNSUCCESSFUL (they could be other words) allow that
> programmer don't have to write getters and setters or properties
> unnecessarily. For example, if you define un attribute as part of
> class interface is obvious that you want allow its value can be
> readed; so, why you have to write a getter?
> 
> Similarly, that attribute must be set. So, why write a setter or
> _Write method attached to a property?
> 
> Ok, you just can define it as PUBLIC and, at least in principle, the
> encapsulation would be assured; but, further changes could be more
> difficult to do: programmer should change PUBLIC by PRIVATE on this
> attribute, define getters and setters or (worse) a property and _READ,
> _WRITE methods.
> 
> Instead, using INTERFACE/IMPLEMENTATION and VALIDATE only would be
> necessary to add a validation.

It is what I meant: a special syntax to define something not so frequent. You 
take the case where your "property" is actually just a bit more than a 
variable. This is actually rarely the case. Reading is often just returning 
the contents of a variable, but writing is usually more complex. I don't know 
how to cover all possible cases with less keywords than the current syntax.

> 
> > (3) On the other hand, it might be a good idea to allow the user to
> > separate the public and the private thing.
> > 
> > Note that I am not agree with the common separation between "interface"
> > and "implementation". In the real life, they are not separated. A good
> > interface usually leads directly to the implementation. Or the interface
> > surface from a good implementation. :-)
> 
> I don't understand you. In the real life there are many examples as
> one and the other: your clothing is an interface and is not part of
> you, but your skin is an interface too that is part of you.

When I mean "real life", I mean "real programming life". :-)

> 
> Anyway, actually in Gambas the declaration of interface and
> implementation are separated by PUBLIC, PRIVATE and PROPERTY keywords.
> 
> > Doriano's idea may be good: when PUBLIC or PRIVATE is alone on his line,
> > everything after is declared PUBLIC (or PRIVATE) by default. That way,
> > you can
> 
> > write:
> Oh! That is my idea and I'm going to patent it. :-P
> 
> (read below of "or much better")
> 
> http://old.nabble.com/Ideas4Gambas-to28782834.html

Sorry, I didn't know you were the father. :-)

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ihaywood at ...1979...  Fri Sep 17 00:52:28 2010
From: ihaywood at ...1979... (Ian Haywood)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:52:28 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 3 release or otherwise as binary package
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Benoit,

do you have a plan on when gambas 3 will be formally released?
IMHO it is quite stable now.

The reason I ask is Richard and I are within sight of releasing a
stable version of our software, and we would like to submit it to
debian/ubuntu/fedora etc for inclusion, but it would depend on the
gambas3 runtime.

If you don't plan to release in the next 6 months or so, would you
have any objection to a me developing .deb's for the gambas3 runtime
which would be relased at regular intervals, tracking the latest stable SVN
version?

Ian



From dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...  Fri Sep 17 01:16:43 2010
From: dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312... (Dag Jarle Johansen)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:16:43 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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Hi to all,

Am Freitag, den 17.09.2010, 00:06 +0200 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> > 2010/9/16 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> > > (1) First, you must realize that the syntax is not the implementation. In
> > > a more general way, the word is not the thing. We are confused by that
> > > all the life. :-)
> > 
> > What are you talking about?
> 
> That, for me, the implementation, i.e. the internals of the interpreter, is 
> the most important. The syntax is less important.
> 
> > 
> > > So, replacing one word (for example PUBLIC) by another (ATTRIBUTE),
> > > whereas the implementation is the same behind is not a good idea,
> > > because then this is not BASIC anymore.
> > 
> > I'm never said that PUBLIC would be replaced by ATTRIBUTE. That have no
> > sense.
> 
> I mean that declaring a public variable with PUBLIC or with ATTRIBUTE is 
> always declaring a public variable, with another keyword.
> 


I can only agree here - that are just words, and really, there are so
many programm-languages on this world - one just has to be used to what
is needed. To explode Gambas to a standard OOP-language is a little too
much, at this time at least


> > 
> > Neither, I never said that my proposed syntax should be replace the
> > current.
> > 
> > > I don't mean that the current syntax better,
> > 
> > The current syntax is fine, but an alternative syntax could be better
> > for some programmers
> > 
> > > but that as I chose to implement
> > > a BASIC, I have to follow something that looks like the common usages in
> > > other languages..
> > 
> > That is not an impediment to an alternative syntax. In fact, Gambas
> > have alternative syntax for many things:
> > 
> > - Loops
> > - String functions (VB component)
> > 
> 
> The two cases are just exceptions: the first one, because of the common syntax 
> of BASIC languages, and the second because of VB, and they are methods of a 
> class, not keywords.
> 
> Otherwise, I try to limit the number of keywords as much as possible.
> 
> > > (2) I find your VALIDATE / UNSUCCESSFUL... useless, as you introduce a
> > > lot of syntactic sugar for something that is actually not so frequent.
> > 
> > VALIDATE / UNSUCCESSFUL (they could be other words) allow that
> > programmer don't have to write getters and setters or properties
> > unnecessarily. For example, if you define un attribute as part of
> > class interface is obvious that you want allow its value can be
> > readed; so, why you have to write a getter?
> > 
> > Similarly, that attribute must be set. So, why write a setter or
> > _Write method attached to a property?
> > 
> > Ok, you just can define it as PUBLIC and, at least in principle, the
> > encapsulation would be assured; but, further changes could be more
> > difficult to do: programmer should change PUBLIC by PRIVATE on this
> > attribute, define getters and setters or (worse) a property and _READ,
> > _WRITE methods.
> > 
> > Instead, using INTERFACE/IMPLEMENTATION and VALIDATE only would be
> > necessary to add a validation.
> 
> It is what I meant: a special syntax to define something not so frequent. You 
> take the case where your "property" is actually just a bit more than a 
> variable. This is actually rarely the case. Reading is often just returning 
> the contents of a variable, but writing is usually more complex. I don't know 
> how to cover all possible cases with less keywords than the current syntax.
> 
> > 
> > > (3) On the other hand, it might be a good idea to allow the user to
> > > separate the public and the private thing.
> > > 
> > > Note that I am not agree with the common separation between "interface"
> > > and "implementation". In the real life, they are not separated. A good
> > > interface usually leads directly to the implementation. Or the interface
> > > surface from a good implementation. :-)
> > 
> > I don't understand you. In the real life there are many examples as
> > one and the other: your clothing is an interface and is not part of
> > you, but your skin is an interface too that is part of you.
> 
> When I mean "real life", I mean "real programming life". :-)
> 
> > 
> > Anyway, actually in Gambas the declaration of interface and
> > implementation are separated by PUBLIC, PRIVATE and PROPERTY keywords.
> > 
> > > Doriano's idea may be good: when PUBLIC or PRIVATE is alone on his line,
> > > everything after is declared PUBLIC (or PRIVATE) by default. That way,
> > > you can
> > 
> > > write:
> > Oh! That is my idea and I'm going to patent it. :-P
> > 
> > (read below of "or much better")
> > 
> > http://old.nabble.com/Ideas4Gambas-to28782834.html
> 
> Sorry, I didn't know you were the father. :-)
> 
> Regards,
> 


Outiting:
"I mean that declaring a public variable with PUBLIC or with ATTRIBUTE
is 

always declaring a public variable, with another keyword."


I can only agree here - that are just words, interpreted by the
compiler, and really, there are so many program-languages on this world
- one just has to be used to what is needed. To explode Gambas to a
standard OOP-language is a little too much, at this time at least, in my
opinion.

Regards,
Dag




From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 17 02:09:30 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:09:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 3 release or otherwise as binary package
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik4onD=DNez4AVBivB837AOvXM6z_Z1F1TaFfE7@...627...>
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	<AANLkTik4onD=DNez4AVBivB837AOvXM6z_Z1F1TaFfE7@...627...>
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> Benoit,
> 
> do you have a plan on when gambas 3 will be formally released?
> IMHO it is quite stable now.
> 
> The reason I ask is Richard and I are within sight of releasing a
> stable version of our software, and we would like to submit it to
> debian/ubuntu/fedora etc for inclusion, but it would depend on the
> gambas3 runtime.
> 
> If you don't plan to release in the next 6 months or so, would you
> have any objection to a me developing .deb's for the gambas3 runtime
> which would be relased at regular intervals, tracking the latest stable SVN
> version?
> 
> Ian
> 

I want to make at least a first release candidate before the end of the year.

I'm currently only fixing bug. I know that Fabien must make a usable gb.report 
component and Laurent has just added a few things in gb.sdl recently.

Before doing the RC (2.99.1), I have to think a bit to see what must be 
changed in the language syntax to be sure that Gambas 3 will be stable until 
the next version.

I have to check all components:
- A component that is not maintained anymore should be removed. 
- A component, like gb.firebird, that do not have actually a GPL-compatible 
license should be removed as well.
- The state of component must be up to date too (stable, not finished, beta).

Just after the RC, there are a lot of things to do, besides bug fixing:

- I want to have a bug tracker. I have setup the Google one, but it is not 
activated yet.

- Everybody should try to ensure that his distribution will have correct 
packages of Gambas.

- I'd like to have another look for the web site.

- I'd like people who converted their Gambas 2 project to Gambas 3 by hand to 
write about their experience on a wiki page, so that I will be able to make a 
converter helper tool in the IDE.

- I must then write better internal documentation to try to attract 
developers.

So is the plan!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 17 02:12:27 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:12:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
In-Reply-To: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>
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Message-ID: <201009170212.27573.gambas@...1...>

> Ubuntu : 10.4
> Gambas : 2.99
> Gnome  : 2.30.2
> 
> [gb.form]
> 
> * test ColorButton : When selecting a color, the button does not display
> the selected color.
> 

It works perfectly there. *Please* provide a little project example to show 
bugs!

> [gb.qt4]
> 
> * Test Form  : Fmain.center not positioned in the center of the screen,
> the form

Mmm. The sentence seems to be unfinished... Can you give more details?

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 03:28:32 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:28:32 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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2010/9/16 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>> > So, replacing one word (for example PUBLIC) by another (ATTRIBUTE),
>> > whereas the implementation is the same behind is not a good idea,
>> > because then this is not BASIC anymore.
>>
>> I'm never said that PUBLIC would be replaced by ATTRIBUTE. That have no
>> sense.
>
> I mean that declaring a public variable with PUBLIC or with ATTRIBUTE is
> always declaring a public variable, with another keyword.

But keyword have a meaning. Words are the starting point for reasoning
about something.

For example, the keyword PUBLIC refers to the scope of a variable, so
evokes a concept that come from structured programming. Instead,
INTERFACE is an important concept that when you use PUBLIC remains
hided. But also, INTERFACE refers to the encapsulation, so evokes a
concept that was highly emphasized by OOP.

Similarily, FUNCTION, SUB and PROCEDURE evokes to the structured
programming. Instead, METHOD evokes to the OOP.

So, words are very important because allow linking the syntax with the
concepts, and this matters to allow good reasoning (specially at the
moment than is necesary teach an OOP language).


>> That is not an impediment to an alternative syntax. In fact, Gambas
>> have alternative syntax for many things:
>>
>> - Loops
>> - String functions (VB component)
>>
> The two cases are just exceptions

There are more than two: PROCEDURE and SUB for example.

> Otherwise, I try to limit the number of keywords as much as possible.

That can be important. But, is more important that provide keywords
closer to OOP?

So if you has admited exceptions before. Why you can't do now?

> It is what I meant: a special syntax to define something not so frequent. You
> take the case where your "property" is actually just a bit more than a
> variable. This is actually rarely the case. Reading is often just returning
> the contents of a variable, but writing is usually more complex. I don't know
> how to cover all possible cases with less keywords than the current syntax.

The problem is that if I define, for example:

PUBLIC Age AS Byte

PUBLIC SUB setAge(Value AS Byte)
  IF Value >= MinAge AND Value <= MaxAge THEN Age = Value
END

The user can avoid the validation, just using the dot notation.

This is because the PUBLIC keyword refers to the scope, but if you
think about that as part of an interface, you can do mandatory the
validation (execution of setAge) for the dot notation too. So, there's
no need to force to programmer to write an private attribute, setter
and getter or property and _Write _Read methods.

Do it so, can be confusing because scope concept isn't equal to
interface concept.

May be that can be more clear, so:

PUBLIC '(a.k.a. Interface)
  Age AS Byte

  SUB setAge(Value AS Byte)
    IF Value >= MinAge AND Value <= MaxAge THEN Age = Value
  END

So it is clear that both the attribute and the method are part of the
interface and the method will be executed when the attribute gets a
value.

But if you want less keywords, you can do:

PUBLIC '(a.k.a. Interface)
  Age AS Byte

  setAge(Value AS Byte)
    IF Value >= MinAge AND Value <= MaxAge THEN Age = Value
  END

Because, I think than, a method (procedure or function) is defined by
its signature, not by the prefix keywords FUNCTION, PROCEDURE or SUB.

May be, you want to do optionals these keywords.

>> > Note that I am not agree with the common separation between "interface"
>> > and "implementation". In the real life, they are not separated. A good
>> > interface usually leads directly to the implementation. Or the interface
>> > surface from a good implementation. :-)
>>
>
> When I mean "real life", I mean "real programming life". :-)

Anyway, I don't understand what you mean.

>> (read below of "or much better")
>>
>> http://old.nabble.com/Ideas4Gambas-to28782834.html
>
> Sorry, I didn't know you were the father. :-)

lol. Luckily, I'm a real father.

Finally, I think that you can do Gambas become more easy yet (easy to
code, easy to reasoning, easy to teach), and the syntax can be a
important part in that. So, you know how to do it the best way,
because you're the expert not me.

Regards

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 17 04:01:21 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:01:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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> > 
> > I mean that declaring a public variable with PUBLIC or with ATTRIBUTE is
> > always declaring a public variable, with another keyword.
> 
> But keyword have a meaning. Words are the starting point for reasoning
> about something.
> 
> For example, the keyword PUBLIC refers to the scope of a variable, so
> evokes a concept that come from structured programming. Instead,
> INTERFACE is an important concept that when you use PUBLIC remains
> hided. But also, INTERFACE refers to the encapsulation, so evokes a
> concept that was highly emphasized by OOP.
> 
> Similarily, FUNCTION, SUB and PROCEDURE evokes to the structured
> programming. Instead, METHOD evokes to the OOP.
> 
> So, words are very important because allow linking the syntax with the
> concepts, and this matters to allow good reasoning (specially at the
> moment than is necesary teach an OOP language).
> 

I agree with the word "method," but "public" and "private" comes from the OOP 
world too. And "interface" has not the same meaning in all OOP languages, so 
it is not necessarily a good idea to use it. Morever, "Interface" is already a 
reserved keyword, because I'd like to implement the "interface" mechanism of 
Java, but I didn't find a good way to make it yet.

> >> That is not an impediment to an alternative syntax. In fact, Gambas
> >> have alternative syntax for many things:
> >> 
> >> - Loops
> >> - String functions (VB component)
> > 
> > The two cases are just exceptions
> 
> There are more than two: PROCEDURE and SUB for example.

Put them with "Loops" (DO, WHILE, REPEAT, FOR, FOR EACH and GOTO).

> 
> > Otherwise, I try to limit the number of keywords as much as possible.
> 
> That can be important. But, is more important that provide keywords
> closer to OOP?
> 
> So if you has admited exceptions before. Why you can't do now?

Because these exceptions comes from the syntax of other BASICs. I want the 
inheritance of AMSTRAD-BASIC, GFA-BASIC, and Visual BASIC (The BASICs I used 
mainly!).

> 
> > It is what I meant: a special syntax to define something not so frequent.
> > You take the case where your "property" is actually just a bit more than
> > a variable. This is actually rarely the case. Reading is often just
> > returning the contents of a variable, but writing is usually more
> > complex. I don't know how to cover all possible cases with less keywords
> > than the current syntax.
> 
> The problem is that if I define, for example:
> 
> PUBLIC Age AS Byte
> 
> PUBLIC SUB setAge(Value AS Byte)
>   IF Value >= MinAge AND Value <= MaxAge THEN Age = Value
> END
> 
> The user can avoid the validation, just using the dot notation.
> 
> This is because the PUBLIC keyword refers to the scope, but if you
> think about that as part of an interface, you can do mandatory the
> validation (execution of setAge) for the dot notation too. So, there's
> no need to force to programmer to write an private attribute, setter
> and getter or property and _Write _Read methods.

So you want a new special syntax just because you don't want to write:

PRIVATE $iAge AS Byte

PROPERTY Age AS Byte

PRIVATE Age_Read() AS Byte
  RETURN $iAge
END

PRIVATE Age_Write(Value AS Byte)
  IF Value >= MinAge AND Value <= MaxAge THEN Age = Value
END

Moreover, that syntax shows clearly that using a property is calling a 
function. What is really done is not hidden by the syntax. That is important 
for me too.

> 
> Do it so, can be confusing because scope concept isn't equal to
> interface concept.
> 
> May be that can be more clear, so:
> 
> PUBLIC '(a.k.a. Interface)
>   Age AS Byte
> 
>   SUB setAge(Value AS Byte)
>     IF Value >= MinAge AND Value <= MaxAge THEN Age = Value
>   END
> 
> So it is clear that both the attribute and the method are part of the
> interface and the method will be executed when the attribute gets a
> value.
> 
> But if you want less keywords, you can do:
> 
> PUBLIC '(a.k.a. Interface)
>   Age AS Byte
> 
>   setAge(Value AS Byte)
>     IF Value >= MinAge AND Value <= MaxAge THEN Age = Value
>   END
> 
> Because, I think than, a method (procedure or function) is defined by
> its signature, not by the prefix keywords FUNCTION, PROCEDURE or SUB.
> 
> May be, you want to do optionals these keywords.

I don't want when the job of the compiler to become too complex. The speed of 
the compiler is a *very* important thing to me, and I spent days to make the 
Gambas 3 compiler twice faster than Gambas 2 compiler.

> >> > Note that I am not agree with the common separation between
> >> > "interface" and "implementation". In the real life, they are not
> >> > separated. A good interface usually leads directly to the
> >> > implementation. Or the interface surface from a good implementation.
> >> > :-)
> > 
> > When I mean "real life", I mean "real programming life". :-)
> 
> Anyway, I don't understand what you mean.
> 

Mmm. It's even hard to explain in french. It's just something I noticed after 
years of writing programs.

> >> (read below of "or much better")
> >> 
> >> http://old.nabble.com/Ideas4Gambas-to28782834.html
> > 
> > Sorry, I didn't know you were the father. :-)
> 
> lol. Luckily, I'm a real father.
> 
> Finally, I think that you can do Gambas become more easy yet (easy to
> code, easy to reasoning, easy to teach), and the syntax can be a
> important part in that. So, you know how to do it the best way,
> because you're the expert not me.
> 
> Regards

I won't change the syntax of Gambas just before releasing a new version, so 
there is enough time to talk about that before the next one!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 17 04:06:35 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:06:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A suggestion for the code editor
In-Reply-To: <4C91255B.7050808@...221...>
References: <4C91255B.7050808@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009170406.35114.gambas@...1...>

> It happens quite often (at least to me, blockhead) that a line of code has
> to be moved to one ore some lines up or down.
> 
> Right now, I can't see another way to do this than marking the line and
> using Ctrl-X and Ctrl-V.
> 
> My very old text program in the office has a nice command "Alt+Up/Down"
> that moves a complete line of text up/down (switching the lines), so it is
> very easy and quick to place a line somewhere else.
> 
> Maybe an idea for the code editor?
> 
> Regards
> Matti
> 

It's done in revision #3227. Moreover, you can use Alt+Up/Down to move the 
selection too.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 17 04:07:46 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:07:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A suggestion for the code editor
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> I agree Matti, some more little functions in the editor of the IDE would
> be fine. I always liked to delete a line or the selected source with
> Ctrl-Y. (Using the German keyboard it is next to Crtl)
> 

CTRL+Y is alread used for undo, and CTRL+K (another possible shortcut) is used 
for commenting. Maybe CTRL+D ?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 17 04:08:42 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:08:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT in Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <1284244129.5064.20.camel@...2406...>
References: <1284244129.5064.20.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009170408.42297.gambas@...1...>

> [ DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT]
> 
> Testing in Gambas3 Rev 3206
> SO: Ubuntu 9.10 i386
> 
> * When you save a project with the name of another existing project. Not
> indicated by a message that the project already exists as gambas2.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F
> 

"Saving as" has been reimplemented in revison #3225. Tell me if it is better 
for you now.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...  Fri Sep 17 04:48:42 2010
From: dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312... (Dag Jarle Johansen)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:48:42 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 3 release or otherwise as binary package
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Am Freitag, den 17.09.2010, 02:09 +0200 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> > Benoit,
> > 
> > do you have a plan on when gambas 3 will be formally released?
> > IMHO it is quite stable now.
> > 
> > The reason I ask is Richard and I are within sight of releasing a
> > stable version of our software, and we would like to submit it to
> > Debian/Ubuntu/fedora etc for inclusion, but it would depend on the
> > gambas3 runtime.
> > 
> > If you don't plan to release in the next 6 months or so, would you
> > have any objection to a me developing .deb's for the gambas3 runtime
> > which would be relased at regular intervals, tracking the latest stable SVN
> > version?
> > 
> > Ian
> > 
> 
> I want to make at least a first release candidate before the end of the year.
> 
> I'm currently only fixing bug. I know that Fabien must make a usable gb.report 
> component and Laurent has just added a few things in gb.sdl recently.
> 
> Before doing the RC (2.99.1), I have to think a bit to see what must be 
> changed in the language syntax to be sure that Gambas 3 will be stable until 
> the next version.
> 
> I have to check all components:
> - A component that is not maintained anymore should be removed. 
> - A component, like gb.firebird, that do not have actually a GPL-compatible 
> license should be removed as well.
> - The state of component must be up to date too (stable, not finished, beta).
> 
> Just after the RC, there are a lot of things to do, besides bug fixing:
> 
> - I want to have a bug tracker. I have setup the Google one, but it is not 
> activated yet.
> 
> - Everybody should try to ensure that his distribution will have correct 
> packages of Gambas.
> 
> - I'd like to have another look for the web site.
> 
> - I'd like people who converted their Gambas 2 project to Gambas 3 by hand to 
> write about their experience on a wiki page, so that I will be able to make a 
> converter helper tool in the IDE.
> 
> - I must then write better internal documentation to try to attract 
> developers.
> 
> So is the plan!
> 

It would be just great, Benoit,

I have to do a lot of programming on Linux-platforms, and as I have to
generate source as well as data-files, Gambas would just be perfect,
much easier than using PHP. I could convince my client to use it too,
not in my first project now, wich has to be completely in PHP, but later
on, and I would see to, you get at last clicks for that. 

Not only that, even in our little network in the office, it would be
much easier to use a binary than to install the SVN every time I change
the source. (more or less).  My software is mostly rather easy, just a
picture of the current database (MySQL), 

Go on with it - I will be very pleased, when it is published.

Regards, 
Dag-Jarle


From dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312...  Fri Sep 17 05:03:00 2010
From: dag.jarle.johansen at ...2312... (Dag Jarle Johansen)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:03:00 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] A suggestion for the code editor
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Good idea, Benoit,

even I could record that -lol
Ctrl-D ist just fine.

Regards
Dag


Am Freitag, den 17.09.2010, 04:07 +0200 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> > I agree Matti, some more little functions in the editor of the IDE would
> > be fine. I always liked to delete a line or the selected source with
> > Ctrl-Y. (Using the German keyboard it is next to Crtl)
> > 
> 
> CTRL+Y is alread used for undo, and CTRL+K (another possible shortcut) is used 
> for commenting. Maybe CTRL+D ?
> 




From prog at ...2177...  Fri Sep 17 06:15:37 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:15:37 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
Fecha: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:12:27 +0200

> Ubuntu : 10.4
> Gambas : 2.99
> Gnome  : 2.30.2
> 
> [gb.form]
> 
> * test ColorButton : When selecting a color, the button does not display
> the selected color.
> 

>It works perfectly there. *Please* provide a little project example to show 
>bugs!

> [gb.qt4]
> 
> * Test Form  : Fmain.center not positioned in the center of the screen,
> the form

>Mmm. The sentence seems to be unfinished... Can you give more details?

Solved by formatting and installing Ubuntu 10.4 without Virtualbox.

Regards,







From prog at ...2177...  Fri Sep 17 06:17:23 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:17:23 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT in Gambas3
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT in Gambas3
Fecha: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:08:42 +0200

> [ DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT]
> 
> Testing in Gambas3 Rev 3206
> SO: Ubuntu 9.10 i386
> 
> * When you save a project with the name of another existing project. Not
> indicated by a message that the project already exists as gambas2.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F
> 

>"Saving as" has been reimplemented in revison #3225. Tell me if it is better 
>for you now.

Yes, works perfect!

Regards,







From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Fri Sep 17 08:08:19 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:08:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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Fabi?n Flores Vadell ha scritto:
> 2010/9/16 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
>   
>> Ok, I will argue about it. From what I understand, the paradigm you
>> describe looks similar to pascal (and C++): an interface section
>> declares all the public symbols, which will be detailed (implemented)
>> later. So every method declaration must be written twice, in interface
>> and in implementation. And this alone is a lot of typing. When the
>> number of lines between interface and implementation grows to several
>> screens, you start to navigate up and down in the source. A good
>> editor/IDE can help, but the problem remains: why we have to write the
>> same things twice? Perhaps because a compiler born in the '70 could not
>> read the same source twice, especially if that source was punched on
>> cards... it is no surprise that a pascal compiler, on modern computers,
>> is so fast: the program is written in a way totally good for the compiler!
>>
>> So, I prefer the gambas way - you write things once, exactly where you
>> want, and the compiler does the rest.
>>     
>
> Ok. Now I can understand you.
>
> You mistakenly thought than I meant that "INTERFACE" and
> "IMPLEMENTATION" keywords should work as they do in Pascal. But I'm
> don't saying that. Nothing about that there's in the example I wrote.
>
> There's no need to double typing.
>   
Ok, sorry. Perhaps this is because my habits. From my experience, 
"Interface" means a declaration without any implementation (call it 
prototype, if you want), and "Implementation" means something that is 
hidden (private, if you want). But, now, it's your turn to 
argue/demonstrate: what languages use interface and implementation in 
the way you intend? I am always very interested in any new language I 
don't know! But beware: if only pascal has that two keywords, then I am 
right, and you are wrong, and by your own words! :-) If so, in fact, you 
wanted to use interface and implementation in their wrong meaning - the 
right keywords for you would be public and private (and protected, 
published, and so on): it's you (and I agree) that says that words are 
important...

>   
>> You say that your proposal is only an <<alternative>>. Ok. Even an
>> alternative, an option, must respond to good criteria. I am not saying
>> that your proposal is wrong - simply I think that probably it is not
>> what a gambas user expects. To let you know, I am probably the most
>> critic user of gambas - I am not afraid to point out its weaknesses. But
>> this time, I think that gambas is right.
>>     
>
> You are doing a wrong reasoning.
>
> Whatever that user expects is cover by the current syntax. Any new
> thing (about syntax), will be unexpected to users and possibly will be
> very different from BASIC.
>
> Many examples about that there's in Gambas. Think about a little and
> you will find many cases.
>   
This point is true, and I am wrong again. I must reformulate my thought. 
"What a user expects" is a restricted way to say "what a language should 
be". Should a language be a chameleon? If it aims to be basic (modern 
basic, but still basic), then it should not borrow too much from other 
paradigms which nothing have in common with basic. And please note I 
wrote "not borrow too much" - I don't intend to be too rigid.

>   
>>> A very important advantage, was not emphasized enough: keywords closer
>>> to OOP help very much to teaching an OOP language, because them are
>>> closely related to the OOP concepts.
>>>
>>>       
>> Uhm... I don't understand why interface and implementation should be
>> related in any way to OOP. Don't forget that the gambas way of having
>> form=class=module/unit/library/whatever=file is a gambas specific
>> simplification. More mature languages can declare more than one class in
>> a file, or use more files to declare a single class. Interface and
>> implementation existed before OOP was invented, and OOP can live without
>> them; these two keywords are simply a way to group declarations - be
>> them OOP declarations or not.
>>     
>
> I never said that INTERFACE and IMPLEMENTATION concepts are exclusive
> from OOP. But in OOP these concepts are a fundamental consequence of
> encapsulation.
>   
I don't understand well. But I can repeat that public and private refer 
to encapsulation (well, not really true), like interface and 
implementation. But encapsulation is not exclusive to OOP. So, I don't 
understand why interface/implementation should "be closer" to OOP. It 
seems to me like saying that "writeln" is more structured than "print"...

>   
>> I want to say just another thing. It seems that you are proposing
>> changes to gambas without having tried it enough.
>>     
>
> You are saying this without arguments.
>   
This is true. In fact, I wrote "it seems", I didn't wrote "you didn't 
tried ...". Sorry.

>   
>> beings. After some time, and two or three non-trivial applications
>> written in gambas, you will change your mind - you will begin to
>> appreciate it more than now. If not, you will then, and only then,
>> entitled to criticize. I am not saying that gambas is perfect: I feel
>> that you and me share many thoughts about programming, but I repeat:
>> give gambas some time.
>>     
>
> I am not criticizing Gambas. I am proposing an alternative syntax and
> seems that you can't understand that someone want to do that.
>   
Again, the common language we are using does not help us. There is 
difference between "enhancing" and "correcting". You intend to enhance 
gambas. But, when a thing is "enhanced", it is better than another thing 
that is not enhanced, and that other thing can be criticized about not 
being so complete like the enhanced one. Or, put in other words: every 
time I propose a change, I am criticizing (more or less mildly). The 
only things we can *not* criticize are those which are perfect - all the 
others are imperfect, and any proposed change to them is a criticism.

But anyway, don't take it bad. Call it "enhance" or "criticize", I think 
it's good for everybody. I find it a little boring a mailing list where 
the only arguments are "can't compile" and "found perhaps a bug"; 
besides those necessary things, welcome to new ideas and proposals - 
everyone in this list can take advantage.

I'd recommend anyone to use Intercal for their critical applications.

Regards,
Doriano




From wdahn at ...1000...  Fri Sep 17 08:07:48 2010
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:07:48 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Deleting" Forms and Classes
Message-ID: <4C9305B4.9010202@...1000...>

This is scary stuff.

When I right click on item on the list on the left side of the IDE a
popup menu shows. One of the items is "Delete..."

I remember the first time I came across it I was so scared that I left
the IDE and made a backup of the project.

As I then found out it doesn't actually delete a file but just removes
it from the project.

Maybe this menu item should be renamed to something less frightening
i.e. "Remove from Project"


Regards

Werner Dahn




From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Fri Sep 17 08:33:25 2010
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:33:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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>>
>> http://old.nabble.com/Ideas4Gambas-to28782834.html
>

What does the "Z" stand for?

   A = {Z; x > -3; x < 5} =~ {-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4}

Just because I'm interested in the syntax ;-)

Regards

Rolf



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Fri Sep 17 08:51:59 2010
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:51:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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I think this could lead to misunderstanding if you keep the BASIC 
concept of "free" indention:

> But if you want less keywords, you can do:
>
> PUBLIC '(a.k.a. Interface)
>    Age AS Byte
>
>    setAge(Value AS Byte)
>      IF Value>= MinAge AND Value<= MaxAge THEN Age = Value
>    END
>
> Because, I think than, a method (procedure or function) is defined by
> its signature, not by the prefix keywords FUNCTION, PROCEDURE or SUB.
>
> May be, you want to do optionals these keywords.
>

I can understand what you mean, but it's true what was said here 
earlier: Just imagine a few hundred codelines instead of these 3 in your 
example - at the end of the procedure (where your END stands) you maybe 
wouldn't know by heart if there was a PUBLIC somewhere or whatever.

If you want to get rid of the "bracketing" the keyword SUB does, you 
should either provide an intelligent editor which presents this piece of 
code as one piece (some color or whatever), or you come to a concept of 
indention like - what was it, Ruby?

But if you really want to get rid of something useless, why not change 
SELECT CASE into SELECT? I don't know the history of this keyword, but 
it smells like it was planned to allow for further combinations. 
However, nobody ever implemented them, and it stayed as it was. If we 
don't revive the old idea, why not allowing the programmer to write it 
like SWITCH? You could make it an option:

SELECT myExpression
CASE 0
CASE 1
CASE 2,3
CASE ELSE
END SELECT

Regards

Rolf



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Fri Sep 17 09:23:46 2010
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:23:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A suggestion for the code editor
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Is there a shortcut to jump to a function/procedure by the name the 
cursor is placed on? Just an example:

You see

myString = thisOddLittleBeast(anything)

and wonder what you coded in the function and where it is - so you place 
the cursor somewhere into thisOddLittleBeast and press the magic key and 
are beamed directly to the function. Another magic key (or the same) 
will beam you back to where you were before exceptyou place it on some 
other function name.

Regards

Rolf


Am 17.09.2010 05:03, schrieb Dag Jarle Johansen:
> Good idea, Benoit,
>
> even I could record that -lol
> Ctrl-D ist just fine.
>
> Regards
> Dag
>
>
> Am Freitag, den 17.09.2010, 04:07 +0200 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>
>>> I agree Matti, some more little functions in the editor of the IDE would
>>> be fine. I always liked to delete a line or the selected source with
>>> Ctrl-Y. (Using the German keyboard it is next to Crtl)
>>>
>>
>> CTRL+Y is alread used for undo, and CTRL+K (another possible shortcut) is used
>> for commenting. Maybe CTRL+D ?
>>
>
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From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Fri Sep 17 10:44:46 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:44:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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Fabi?n Flores Vadell ha scritto:
> 2010/9/16 Doriano Blengino<doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
>    
>> Ok, I will argue about it. From what I understand, the paradigm you
>> describe looks similar to pascal (and C++): an interface section
>> declares all the public symbols, which will be detailed (implemented)
>> later. So every method declaration must be written twice, in interface
>> and in implementation. And this alone is a lot of typing. When the
>> number of lines between interface and implementation grows to several
>> screens, you start to navigate up and down in the source. A good
>> editor/IDE can help, but the problem remains: why we have to write the
>> same things twice? Perhaps because a compiler born in the '70 could not
>> read the same source twice, especially if that source was punched on
>> cards... it is no surprise that a pascal compiler, on modern computers,
>> is so fast: the program is written in a way totally good for the compiler!
>>
>> So, I prefer the gambas way - you write things once, exactly where you
>> want, and the compiler does the rest.
>>      
> Ok. Now I can understand you.
>
> You mistakenly thought than I meant that "INTERFACE" and
> "IMPLEMENTATION" keywords should work as they do in Pascal. But I'm
> don't saying that. Nothing about that there's in the example I wrote.
>
> There's no need to double typing.
>    
Sorry for insisting, but as I am getting older and my brain too, it is a 
pleasure for me to discover that I was remembering right. This is an 
excerpt from your previous email, found in the waste bin:

>    'Same name is used in INTERFACE: this would possible because the
> scope is different
>    METHOD DoSomething()
>      . . .
>    END
"Same name used in INTERFACE"... isn't it a double typing?

Being in search, it's time for another doubt about my brain... you speak 
a lot of encapsulation. Well, while replying to you I was vaguely 
thinking that encapsulation does not mean exactly what you mean - but 
now I consulted the wikipedia. Encapsulation means to associate data to 
procedures meant to manage that data - and eventually hide something. 
The boundary is not so clear, but anyway I find that at least there is 
someone else that thinks like me: that visibility and encapsulation are, 
at least at some extent, different.

Sorry, I realize I look susceptible - but it is not the case. I don't 
want to beat you, I am only happy to discover that my brain still 
works... :-)

To reinforce, I must add that I went to see the message where you explain:

> DIM B AS SET = {Z; x > -3; x < 5}
>
> DIM C AS SET = {0..9}
>
> PRINT A.Intersec(C)
>
> ? 1 3 6 9
This time, I have no criticism - beatiful idea... I sadly think that it 
will not be appreciated, for one reason or another.
And... the result is wrong (sorry... can't resist... :-)).

Regards,
Doriano




From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 17 11:55:33 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:55:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A suggestion for the code editor
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> Is there a shortcut to jump to a function/procedure by the name the
> cursor is placed on? Just an example:
> 
> You see
> 
> myString = thisOddLittleBeast(anything)
> 
> and wonder what you coded in the function and where it is - so you place
> the cursor somewhere into thisOddLittleBeast and press the magic key and
> are beamed directly to the function. Another magic key (or the same)
> will beam you back to where you were before exceptyou place it on some
> other function name.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rolf
> 

It's there for ages: F2 and SHIFT+F2. And there are menu entries for that too!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 17 11:59:18 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:59:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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> 
> But if you really want to get rid of something useless, why not change
> SELECT CASE into SELECT? I don't know the history of this keyword, but
> it smells like it was planned to allow for further combinations.
> However, nobody ever implemented them, and it stayed as it was. If we
> don't revive the old idea, why not allowing the programmer to write it
> like SWITCH? You could make it an option:
> 
> SELECT myExpression
> CASE 0
> CASE 1
> CASE 2,3
> CASE ELSE
> END SELECT
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rolf
> 

Did you try it?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Fri Sep 17 12:47:54 2010
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:47:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A suggestion for the code editor
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Am 17.09.2010 11:55, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> Is there a shortcut to jump to a function/procedure by the name the
>> cursor is placed on? Just an example:
>>
>> You see
>>
>> myString = thisOddLittleBeast(anything)
>>
>> and wonder what you coded in the function and where it is - so you place
>> the cursor somewhere into thisOddLittleBeast and press the magic key and
>> are beamed directly to the function. Another magic key (or the same)
>> will beam you back to where you were before exceptyou place it on some
>> other function name.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>
> It's there for ages: F2 and SHIFT+F2. And there are menu entries for that too!
>

Arrgh - and I always used it for getting the help for a Gambas function

Thanks for the hint :-)

Regards

Rolf




From eilert-sprachen at ...221...  Fri Sep 17 12:50:12 2010
From: eilert-sprachen at ...221... (Rolf-Werner Eilert)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:50:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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Am 17.09.2010 11:59, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>>
>> But if you really want to get rid of something useless, why not change
>> SELECT CASE into SELECT? I don't know the history of this keyword, but
>> it smells like it was planned to allow for further combinations.
>> However, nobody ever implemented them, and it stayed as it was. If we
>> don't revive the old idea, why not allowing the programmer to write it
>> like SWITCH? You could make it an option:
>>
>> SELECT myExpression
>> CASE 0
>> CASE 1
>> CASE 2,3
>> CASE ELSE
>> END SELECT
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rolf
>>
>
> Did you try it?
>

No, I never have... (getting red)

But, do you happen to know why it was originally implemented like this? 
I have known it for ages like SELECT CASE and always have wondered why...

Regards

Rolf




From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 17 12:54:45 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:54:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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> Am 17.09.2010 11:59, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
> >> But if you really want to get rid of something useless, why not change
> >> SELECT CASE into SELECT? I don't know the history of this keyword, but
> >> it smells like it was planned to allow for further combinations.
> >> However, nobody ever implemented them, and it stayed as it was. If we
> >> don't revive the old idea, why not allowing the programmer to write it
> >> like SWITCH? You could make it an option:
> >> 
> >> SELECT myExpression
> >> CASE 0
> >> CASE 1
> >> CASE 2,3
> >> CASE ELSE
> >> END SELECT
> >> 
> >> Regards
> >> 
> >> Rolf
> > 
> > Did you try it?
> 
> No, I never have... (getting red)
> 
> But, do you happen to know why it was originally implemented like this?
> I have known it for ages like SELECT CASE and always have wondered why...
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rolf
> 

No idea. Maybe to look like real english?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 14:41:16 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:41:16 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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2010/9/17 Rolf-Werner Eilert <eilert-sprachen at ...221...>:
> I think this could lead to misunderstanding if you keep the BASIC
> concept of "free" indention:
>
>> But if you want less keywords, you can do:
>>
>> PUBLIC '(a.k.a. Interface)
>> ? ?Age AS Byte
>>
>> ? ?setAge(Value AS Byte)
>> ? ? ?IF Value>= MinAge AND Value<= MaxAge THEN Age = Value
>> ? ?END
>>
>> Because, I think than, a method (procedure or function) is defined by
>> its signature, not by the prefix keywords FUNCTION, PROCEDURE or SUB.
>>
>> May be, you want to do optionals these keywords.
>>
>
> I can understand what you mean, but it's true what was said here
> earlier: Just imagine a few hundred codelines instead of these 3 in your
> example - at the end of the procedure (where your END stands) you maybe
> wouldn't know by heart if there was a PUBLIC somewhere or whatever.

Ok, you can put a END (or whatever) keyword to close the initial
PUBLIC. But, I think that the PUBLIC keyword ends when the PRIVATE
keyword appears or at the end line, and PRIVATE ends at the end line.
Anyway, if a class have a few hundred of lines, possibily the problem
is a bad modularizing.

> If you want to get rid of the "bracketing" the keyword SUB does, you
> should either provide an intelligent editor which presents this piece of
> code as one piece (some color or whatever), or you come to a concept of
> indention like - what was it, Ruby?

I'm not proposing that Gambas imitate to Haskell/Python on using
indentation to delimit structures.

> But if you really want to get rid of something useless, why not change
> SELECT CASE into SELECT? I don't know the history of this keyword, but
> it smells like it was planned to allow for further combinations.
> However, nobody ever implemented them, and it stayed as it was. If we
> don't revive the old idea, why not allowing the programmer to write it
> like SWITCH? You could make it an option:
>
> SELECT myExpression
> CASE 0
> CASE 1
> CASE 2,3
> CASE ELSE
> END SELECT
>
> Regards
>
> Rolf

I agree. But I think that is less important, because not have a major impact.

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 15:07:46 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:07:46 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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2010/9/16 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> I agree with the word "method," but "public" and "private" comes from the OOP
> world too.

I don' think so. Seems to me that PUBLIC and PRIVATE comes from the
implementation of OOP in languages that want keep back compatibility.
Anyway, the problem is that these two keywords refers to concept
"scope".

> And "interface" has not the same meaning in all OOP languages, so
> it is not necessarily a good idea to use it. Morever, "Interface" is already a
> reserved keyword, because I'd like to implement the "interface" mechanism of
> Java, but I didn't find a good way to make it yet.

Ok, but the concept of "class interface" exists in all OOP languages.
I did not know you had such plans, that seems wonderfull to me.
Anyway, that isn't a problem because is possible to use other keyword
"CLASS INTERFACE" maybe.

>> That can be important. But, is more important that provide keywords
>> closer to OOP?
>>
>> So if you has admited exceptions before. Why you can't do now?
>
> Because these exceptions comes from the syntax of other BASICs. I want the
> inheritance of AMSTRAD-BASIC, GFA-BASIC, and Visual BASIC (The BASICs I used
> mainly!).

But, in this way you will never introduce innovations, even small.

>> May be, you want to do optionals these keywords.
>
> I don't want when the job of the compiler to become too complex. The speed of
> the compiler is a *very* important thing to me, and I spent days to make the
> Gambas 3 compiler twice faster than Gambas 2 compiler.

Oh, great !! I noticed that Gambas 3 works faster than Gambas 2.

> I won't change the syntax of Gambas just before releasing a new version, so
> there is enough time to talk about that before the next one!

Ok, you are the father of the creature :)

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 15:34:55 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:34:55 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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2010/9/17 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
> Fabi?n Flores Vadell ha scritto:
>> 2010/9/16 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:
>>
>> Ok. Now I can understand you.
>>
>> You mistakenly thought than I meant that "INTERFACE" and
>> "IMPLEMENTATION" keywords should work as they do in Pascal. But I'm
>> don't saying that. Nothing about that there's in the example I wrote.
>>
>> There's no need to double typing.
>>
> Ok, sorry. Perhaps this is because my habits. From my experience,
> "Interface" means a declaration without any implementation (call it
> prototype, if you want), and "Implementation" means something that is
> hidden (private, if you want).

That's mean to me too. But is different the interface and
implementation of a class, that  the way wich pascal use them.

> But, now, it's your turn to
> argue/demonstrate: what languages use interface and implementation in
> the way you intend? I am always very interested in any new language I
> don't know!

I don't remember if some language does it. But that isn't the point.

> But beware: if only pascal has that two keywords, then I am
> right, and you are wrong, and by your own words! :-)

I can't understand your reasoning.

> If so, in fact, you
> wanted to use interface and implementation in their wrong meaning - the
> right keywords for you would be public and private (and protected,
> published, and so on): it's you (and I agree) that says that words are
> important...

May be you are right. But I can understand what you mean.

> This point is true, and I am wrong again. I must reformulate my thought.
> "What a user expects" is a restricted way to say "what a language should
> be". Should a language be a chameleon? If it aims to be basic (modern
> basic, but still basic), then it should not borrow too much from other
> paradigms which nothing have in common with basic. And please note I
> wrote "not borrow too much" - I don't intend to be too rigid.

Ok, I agree.

>> I never said that INTERFACE and IMPLEMENTATION concepts are exclusive
>> from OOP. But in OOP these concepts are a fundamental consequence of
>> encapsulation.
>>
> I don't understand well. But I can repeat that public and private refer
> to encapsulation (well, not really true), like interface and
> implementation. But encapsulation is not exclusive to OOP. So, I don't
> understand why interface/implementation should "be closer" to OOP. It
> seems to me like saying that "writeln" is more structured than "print"...

I think that "Interface" and "Implementation" are closer to OOP,
because OOP highly emphazises encapsulation of attributes and
behavior. And, the notion of interface and implementation of a class
is consequence of encapsulation.

>> I am not criticizing Gambas. I am proposing an alternative syntax and
>> seems that you can't understand that someone want to do that.
>>
> Again, the common language we are using does not help us. There is
> difference between "enhancing" and "correcting". You intend to enhance
> gambas. But, when a thing is "enhanced", it is better than another thing
> that is not enhanced, and that other thing can be criticized about not
> being so complete like the enhanced one. Or, put in other words: every
> time I propose a change, I am criticizing (more or less mildly). The
> only things we can *not* criticize are those which are perfect - all the
> others are imperfect, and any proposed change to them is a criticism.
>
> But anyway, don't take it bad. Call it "enhance" or "criticize", I think
> it's good for everybody. I find it a little boring a mailing list where
> the only arguments are "can't compile" and "found perhaps a bug";
> besides those necessary things, welcome to new ideas and proposals -
> everyone in this list can take advantage.

Ok, I understand you now and I agree with your concepts.

> I'd recommend anyone to use Intercal for their critical applications.

You are a joker :-P

Regards.

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 15:47:15 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:47:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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la j'ai mal a la t?te maintenant ... on v?ra ?a a la prochiane version
... to have english version ... try google ;)



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 16:02:09 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:02:09 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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2010/9/17 Doriano Blengino <doriano.blengino at ...1909...>:

>> You mistakenly thought than I meant that "INTERFACE" and
>> "IMPLEMENTATION" keywords should work as they do in Pascal. But I'm
>> don't saying that. Nothing about that there's in the example I wrote.
>>
>> There's no need to double typing.
>>
> Sorry for insisting, but as I am getting older and my brain too, it is a
> pleasure for me to discover that I was remembering right. This is an
> excerpt from your previous email, found in the waste bin:
>
>> ? ?'Same name is used in INTERFACE: this would possible because the
>> scope is different
>> ? ?METHOD DoSomething()
>> ? ? ?. . .
>> ? ?END

> "Same name used in INTERFACE"... isn't it a double typing?

Not, because methods in "Interface" are differents from those with the
same name in "Implementation". There's not the case in Pascal.

> Being in search, it's time for another doubt about my brain... you speak
> a lot of encapsulation. Well, while replying to you I was vaguely
> thinking that encapsulation does not mean exactly what you mean - but
> now I consulted the wikipedia. Encapsulation means to associate data to
> procedures meant to manage that data - and eventually hide something.
> The boundary is not so clear, but anyway I find that at least there is
> someone else that thinks like me: that visibility and encapsulation are,
> at least at some extent, different.

I understand encapsulation in reference to OOP in this way:

Encapsulation mean hide state "and" behavior. That implies existence
of an interface and an implementation separates. But not in reference
to procedures or functions, but to classes.

> Sorry, I realize I look susceptible - but it is not the case. I don't
> want to beat you, I am only happy to discover that my brain still
> works... :-)

> To reinforce, I must add that I went to see the message where you explain:
>
>> DIM B AS SET = {Z; x > -3; x < 5}
>>
>> DIM C AS SET = {0..9}
>>
>> PRINT A.Intersec(C)
>>
>> ? 1 3 6 9
> This time, I have no criticism - beatiful idea... I sadly think that it
> will not be appreciated, for one reason or another.
> And... the result is wrong (sorry... can't resist... :-)).

In that example, ... I don't know how to say this in english... the
sets enclosing its limits:

DIM A AS SET = {1,3,6,9, 14,17}
DIM C AS SET = {0..9}

PRINT A.Intersec(C)

[A] intersecction [C] = [1,3,6,9,14,17] intersecction [0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9]

? 1 3 6 9

Where is the error?

I think that your brain works fine, but you sometimes read hurriedly.


-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Fri Sep 17 16:25:38 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:25:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
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Fabi?n Flores Vadell ha scritto:

> I understand encapsulation in reference to OOP in this way:
>
> Encapsulation mean hide state "and" behavior. That implies existence
> of an interface and an implementation separates. But not in reference
> to procedures or functions, but to classes.
I don't see all that difference between classes and 
units/modules/libraries. But I don't want to go deeper here. If you 
really care, mail me privately.

>
>>> DIM B AS SET = {Z; x>  -3; x<  5}
>>>
>>> DIM C AS SET = {0..9}
>>>
>>> PRINT A.Intersec(C)
>>>
>>> ? 1 3 6 9
>>>        
>> This time, I have no criticism - beatiful idea... I sadly think that it
>> will not be appreciated, for one reason or another.
>> And... the result is wrong (sorry... can't resist... :-)).
>>      
> In that example, ... I don't know how to say this in english... the
> sets enclosing its limits:
>
> DIM A AS SET = {1,3,6,9, 14,17}
> DIM C AS SET = {0..9}
>
> PRINT A.Intersec(C)
>
> [A] intersecction [C] = [1,3,6,9,14,17] intersecction [0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9]
>
> ? 1 3 6 9
>
> Where is the error?
>
> I think that your brain works fine, but you sometimes read hurriedly.
>    
True - my fault. I readed B.Itersec(C) instead of A.Intersec(C). Next 
time I will clean my glasses... :-) Sorry for going out of topic...

Anyway, thanks for saying that my brain works fine. It does not happen 
too often :-)

Regards,
Doriano





From prog at ...2177...  Fri Sep 17 16:27:58 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:27:58 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: craf <prog at ...2177...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
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Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
Fecha: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:15:37 -0400

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
Fecha: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:12:27 +0200

> Ubuntu : 10.4
> Gambas : 2.99
> Gnome  : 2.30.2
> 
> [gb.form]
> 
> * test ColorButton : When selecting a color, the button does not display
> the selected color.
> 

>It works perfectly there. *Please* provide a little project example to show 
>bugs!

> [gb.qt4]
> 
> * Test Form  : Fmain.center not positioned in the center of the screen,
> the form

>Mmm. The sentence seems to be unfinished... Can you give more details?

>Solved by formatting and installing Ubuntu 10.4 without Virtualbox.

I speak too son. The problem persist whith control ColorButton.

Insert a control ColorButton  in a  form.

Run the aplication.

The color of the button appears altered each time I run the application

Attach Pictures.

This only happens with the component gb.gtk, With the component gb.qt, works perfectly 


Regards,


Cristian Abarzua

Ubuntu : 10.4
Gambas : 2.99 Rev 3227
Gnome  : 2.30.2
Theme  : Ambiance (original)
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From rospolosco at ...152...  Fri Sep 17 17:43:34 2010
From: rospolosco at ...152... (Stefano Palmeri)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:43:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] bug in dialog.filter with gb.gtk?
Message-ID: <201009171743.35222.rospolosco@...152...>

Hi, Benoit.

In the attached small project, if you set gb.gtk,
dialog.filter doesn't work as expected.  
No problem with gb.qt. Is it a bug?

Gambas 2.20
Qt 3.3.8b
Gtk 2.12.12

Best regards,

Stefano
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From rolf.frogs at ...221...  Fri Sep 17 18:47:25 2010
From: rolf.frogs at ...221... (Rolf Schmidt)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:47:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=nUb4zRW5h9x43vgJ1N0Pb+UV+w+Ecoqch-1eF@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
	<AANLkTim_hFiX5WHz79d+wahg01Nyzut4WDv9gBpA9YTJ@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=nUb4zRW5h9x43vgJ1N0Pb+UV+w+Ecoqch-1eF@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009171847.28902.rolf.frogs@...221...>

Hi Fabien Bodard:

> la j'ai mal a la t?te maintenant ... on v?ra ?a a la prochiane version
> ... to have english version ... try google ;)

What google translate makes no sense for me neither in english nor in german!

Rolf
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From jpierrel85 at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 18:59:24 2010
From: jpierrel85 at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean=2Dpierre_Lain=E9?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:59:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Hello y am french !
Message-ID: <AANLkTimEL+WqzPN9NMwCQo1xenDDo9bvVQz4wHO-xHSL@...627...>

Bonjour je suis fran?ais, et cherche ? contacter des "Gambassiens" parlant
la langue de Moli?re, be cause my english is very bad !
Si il existe un lien pour un forum en langue fran?aise, je suis preneur.
Cordialement Jean-Pierre


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 19:01:19 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:01:19 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
In-Reply-To: <1284733678.1459.10.camel@...2406...>
References: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>
	<201009170212.27573.gambas@...1...>
	<1284696937.1442.1.camel@...2406...>
	<1284733678.1459.10.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiko6-fYTX1nhNCyYz=0U1ZCiM-JcfqjNuiPiy3b@...627...>

Colorbutton bug confirmed with Gambas 3 rev 3199, Ubuntu 10.04 64bit.
Only GTK+ is affected.

Jussi


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 17:27, craf <prog at ...2177...> wrote:
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: craf <prog at ...2177...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
> Fecha: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:15:37 -0400
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
> Fecha: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:12:27 +0200
>
>> Ubuntu : 10.4
>> Gambas : 2.99
>> Gnome ?: 2.30.2
>>
>> [gb.form]
>>
>> * test ColorButton : When selecting a color, the button does not display
>> the selected color.
>>
>
>>It works perfectly there. *Please* provide a little project example to show
>>bugs!
>
>> [gb.qt4]
>>
>> * Test Form ?: Fmain.center not positioned in the center of the screen,
>> the form
>
>>Mmm. The sentence seems to be unfinished... Can you give more details?
>
>>Solved by formatting and installing Ubuntu 10.4 without Virtualbox.
>
> I speak too son. The problem persist whith control ColorButton.
>
> Insert a control ColorButton ?in a ?form.
>
> Run the aplication.
>
> The color of the button appears altered each time I run the application
>
> Attach Pictures.
>
> This only happens with the component gb.gtk, With the component gb.qt, works perfectly
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Cristian Abarzua
>
> Ubuntu : 10.4
> Gambas : 2.99 Rev 3227
> Gnome ?: 2.30.2
> Theme ?: Ambiance (original)
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>>and start using them to simplify application deployment and
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>
>
>
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> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
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>



From rospolosco at ...152...  Fri Sep 17 19:17:00 2010
From: rospolosco at ...152... (Stefano Palmeri)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:17:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Hello y am french !
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimEL+WqzPN9NMwCQo1xenDDo9bvVQz4wHO-xHSL@...627...>
References: <AANLkTimEL+WqzPN9NMwCQo1xenDDo9bvVQz4wHO-xHSL@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009171917.00366.rospolosco@...152...>

Il venerd? 17 settembre 2010 18:59:24 Jean-pierre Lain? ha scritto:
> Bonjour je suis fran?ais, et cherche ? contacter des "Gambassiens" parlant
> la langue de Moli?re, be cause my english is very bad !
> Si il existe un lien pour un forum en langue fran?aise, je suis preneur.
> Cordialement Jean-Pierre

http://gambaslinux.eg2.fr/

Cordialement Stefano


> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>--- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 19:26:20 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:26:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <201009171847.28902.rolf.frogs@...221...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
	<AANLkTim_hFiX5WHz79d+wahg01Nyzut4WDv9gBpA9YTJ@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=nUb4zRW5h9x43vgJ1N0Pb+UV+w+Ecoqch-1eF@...627...>
	<201009171847.28902.rolf.frogs@...221...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhC-QOxT5Z4HDBawWpo9tPB8OmaG_8cqUQ+nPO@...627...>

now, I got a headache now


2010/9/17 Rolf Schmidt <rolf.frogs at ...221...>:
> Hi Fabien Bodard:
>
>> la j'ai mal a la t?te maintenant ... on v?ra ?a a la prochiane version
>> ... to have english version ... try google ;)
>
> What google translate makes no sense for me neither in english nor in german!
>
> Rolf
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From Gambas at ...1950...  Fri Sep 17 19:27:25 2010
From: Gambas at ...1950... (Caveat)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:27:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <201009171847.28902.rolf.frogs@...221...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
	<AANLkTim_hFiX5WHz79d+wahg01Nyzut4WDv9gBpA9YTJ@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=nUb4zRW5h9x43vgJ1N0Pb+UV+w+Ecoqch-1eF@...627...>
	<201009171847.28902.rolf.frogs@...221...>
Message-ID: <1284744445.29153.77.camel@...2479...>

This has given me a headache... we'll see in the next version (?)

:-)

On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 18:47 +0200, Rolf Schmidt wrote:
> Hi Fabien Bodard:
> 
> > la j'ai mal a la t?te maintenant ... on v?ra ?a a la prochiane version
> > ... to have english version ... try google ;)
> 
> What google translate makes no sense for me neither in english nor in german!
> 
> Rolf
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user





From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 19:32:35 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:32:35 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinhC-QOxT5Z4HDBawWpo9tPB8OmaG_8cqUQ+nPO@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
	<AANLkTim_hFiX5WHz79d+wahg01Nyzut4WDv9gBpA9YTJ@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=nUb4zRW5h9x43vgJ1N0Pb+UV+w+Ecoqch-1eF@...627...>
	<201009171847.28902.rolf.frogs@...221...>
	<AANLkTinhC-QOxT5Z4HDBawWpo9tPB8OmaG_8cqUQ+nPO@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimO6PmRxfafU8dPz0T7kV_dJ=bQ7dOQitU4tHo6@...627...>

it reminds me, a wish for array in _gambas:


dim aSt as string[] = ["titi", "toto","tata"]
dim adf as string = ["titi", "tata"]


Print aSt.Diff(adf).Join



-->result :

$toto



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 19:33:32 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:33:32 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <4C930BB5.60402@...221...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
	<201009161652.24099.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTi=uZ3=GWa85b=xEYxx-30CjNGE5-=TgVCzuxSnO@...627...>
	<201009170006.46256.gambas@...1...>
	<4C930BB5.60402@...221...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=4s6swvtwUp-7y6tFUsA_6p5CYF+sFsmD1UTrq@...627...>

Z means set of integers...

Jussi


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 09:33, Rolf-Werner Eilert
<eilert-sprachen at ...221...> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://old.nabble.com/Ideas4Gambas-to28782834.html
>>
>
> What does the "Z" stand for?
>
> ? A = {Z; x > -3; x < 5} =~ {-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4}
>
> Just because I'm interested in the syntax ;-)
>
> Regards
>
> Rolf
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 19:46:40 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:46:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <1284744445.29153.77.camel@...2479...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
	<AANLkTim_hFiX5WHz79d+wahg01Nyzut4WDv9gBpA9YTJ@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=nUb4zRW5h9x43vgJ1N0Pb+UV+w+Ecoqch-1eF@...627...>
	<201009171847.28902.rolf.frogs@...221...>
	<1284744445.29153.77.camel@...2479...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimPLEfq_H2MVJ4uqYyRZkK3zAcP+ja69Dm72Cj-@...627...>

2010/9/17 Caveat <Gambas at ...1950...>:
> This has given me a headache... we'll see in the next version (?)

Yes the next version seems to promise good thing ... I hope Benoit
keeping up to date list of various stated wishes.

Gambas already allows for a simplified approach to programming with
all its tools. But then these tools will also enable the optimization
of procedures and structure of the current project.

So enjoy Gambas 3 and hope for more for the future.

Just for fun, try comparing Gambas 1 'and Gambas 3 ... It is
incomparable, and it shows the ten years of work.



From jpierrel85 at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 21:40:28 2010
From: jpierrel85 at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean=2Dpierre_Lain=E9?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:40:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Hello y am french !
In-Reply-To: <201009171917.00366.rospolosco@...152...>
References: <AANLkTimEL+WqzPN9NMwCQo1xenDDo9bvVQz4wHO-xHSL@...627...>
	<201009171917.00366.rospolosco@...152...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikoRJDUK+4MkGg8TD7q4MWcfYSX=u=hxaMy7zD5@...627...>

Bonjour Stephano,
mille mercis,
tanks,
mille gracies,
gracias,
dank schone

2010/9/17 Stefano Palmeri <rospolosco at ...152...>

> Il venerd? 17 settembre 2010 18:59:24 Jean-pierre Lain? ha scritto:
> > Bonjour je suis fran?ais, et cherche ? contacter des "Gambassiens"
> parlant
> > la langue de Moli?re, be cause my english is very bad !
> > Si il existe un lien pour un forum en langue fran?aise, je suis preneur.
> > Cordialement Jean-Pierre
>
> http://gambaslinux.eg2.fr/
>
> Cordialement Stefano
>
>
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >--- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


From surfing at ...2482...  Fri Sep 17 21:32:51 2010
From: surfing at ...2482... (surfing at ...2482...)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:32:51 -0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Specifying the location of new Gambas components
Message-ID: <20100917123251.e1e173d4d0ade52f14861472765841ca.988834c17c.wbe@...2483...>


   We have created some new components for Gambas and we've been putting them
   into  the  /usr/local/lib/gambas2  directory  with the standard Gambas
   components.   However,  this  directory is locked to the root user, so
   developers can't install components there.
   Is there a way to install these components to another directory and tell
   Gambas to look for them there as well as finding the standard modules in the
   /usr/local/lib/gambas2 dir?
   Thanks in advance.


From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 22:42:53 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:42:53 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimPLEfq_H2MVJ4uqYyRZkK3zAcP+ja69Dm72Cj-@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
	<AANLkTim_hFiX5WHz79d+wahg01Nyzut4WDv9gBpA9YTJ@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=nUb4zRW5h9x43vgJ1N0Pb+UV+w+Ecoqch-1eF@...627...>
	<201009171847.28902.rolf.frogs@...221...>
	<1284744445.29153.77.camel@...2479...>
	<AANLkTimPLEfq_H2MVJ4uqYyRZkK3zAcP+ja69Dm72Cj-@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimqBRk4x7EAFpNBoVX6q+pQVEjgC2a7Dj05H=yS@...627...>

2010/9/17 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> Yes the next version seems to promise good thing ... I hope Benoit
> keeping up to date list of various stated wishes.
>
> Gambas already allows for a simplified approach to programming with
> all its tools. But then these tools will also enable the optimization
> of procedures and structure of the current project.
>
> So enjoy Gambas 3 and hope for more for the future.
>
> Just for fun, try comparing Gambas 1 'and Gambas 3 ... It is
> incomparable, and it shows the ten years of work.

S?, Gambas 3 muestra caracter?sticas muy destacables. A?n le faltan un
par de herramientas para estar a la par de los mejores
lenguajes/entornos de desarrollo profesionales de programaci?n
orientada a objetos. Pero tal vez ustedes est?n ya trabajando en eso y
nosotros a?n no lo sabemos.

PD: ''es excelente la caracter?stica de documentaci?n que han
agregado. Tengo una sugerencia para t?, pero esperar? hasta ma?ana
enterarte de eso y lo har? en un hilo aparte.

Go to Google Translate.. ;-)

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Sep 17 22:58:04 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:58:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Suggestions 4 new keywords
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimqBRk4x7EAFpNBoVX6q+pQVEjgC2a7Dj05H=yS@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik8muJkOnos2V-aM7Jn8fZRKKumDHEerS9GTuhX@...627...>
	<AANLkTim_hFiX5WHz79d+wahg01Nyzut4WDv9gBpA9YTJ@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=nUb4zRW5h9x43vgJ1N0Pb+UV+w+Ecoqch-1eF@...627...>
	<201009171847.28902.rolf.frogs@...221...>
	<1284744445.29153.77.camel@...2479...>
	<AANLkTimPLEfq_H2MVJ4uqYyRZkK3zAcP+ja69Dm72Cj-@...627...>
	<AANLkTimqBRk4x7EAFpNBoVX6q+pQVEjgC2a7Dj05H=yS@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=nRUQVUJQXE6xxXOOK=B2K7wbbdnFaMBYWeuW-@...627...>

:)... a demain, alors :)

2010/9/17 Fabi?n Flores Vadell <fabianfloresvadell at ...626...>:
> 2010/9/17 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
>> Yes the next version seems to promise good thing ... I hope Benoit
>> keeping up to date list of various stated wishes.
>>
>> Gambas already allows for a simplified approach to programming with
>> all its tools. But then these tools will also enable the optimization
>> of procedures and structure of the current project.
>>
>> So enjoy Gambas 3 and hope for more for the future.
>>
>> Just for fun, try comparing Gambas 1 'and Gambas 3 ... It is
>> incomparable, and it shows the ten years of work.
>
> S?, Gambas 3 muestra caracter?sticas muy destacables. A?n le faltan un
> par de herramientas para estar a la par de los mejores
> lenguajes/entornos de desarrollo profesionales de programaci?n
> orientada a objetos. Pero tal vez ustedes est?n ya trabajando en eso y
> nosotros a?n no lo sabemos.
>
> PD: ''es excelente la caracter?stica de documentaci?n que han
> agregado. Tengo una sugerencia para t?, pero esperar? hasta ma?ana
> enterarte de eso y lo har? en un hilo aparte.
>
> Go to Google Translate.. ;-)
>
> --
> Fabi?n Flores Vadell
> www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From prog at ...2177...  Sat Sep 18 02:10:38 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:10:38 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test Gambas 2.99 Rev 3227
Message-ID: <1284768638.2437.3.camel@...2406...>

OS    : Ubuntu 10.4
Gnome : 2.30.2

Fmain.border = 0 -->Work, show form without borders
Fmain.border = 1 --> Nothing
Fmain.border = 2 --> Nothing

Regards.

Cristian Abarzua F




From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 02:21:30 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 02:21:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test Gambas 2.99 Rev 3227
In-Reply-To: <1284768638.2437.3.camel@...2406...>
References: <1284768638.2437.3.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009180221.30238.gambas@...1...>

> OS    : Ubuntu 10.4
> Gnome : 2.30.2
> 
> Fmain.border = 0 -->Work, show form without borders
> Fmain.border = 1 --> Nothing
> Fmain.border = 2 --> Nothing
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F
> 

??

Border is a boolean property.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From prog at ...2177...  Sat Sep 18 04:06:08 2010
From: prog at ...2177... (craf)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:06:08 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test Gambas 2.99 Rev 3227
In-Reply-To: <201009180221.30238.gambas@...1...>
References: <1284768638.2437.3.camel@...2406...>
	<201009180221.30238.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1284775568.1862.2.camel@...2406...>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
<gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Test Gambas 2.99 Rev 3227
Fecha: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 02:21:30 +0200

> OS    : Ubuntu 10.4
> Gnome : 2.30.2
> 
> Fmain.border = 0 -->Work, show form without borders
> Fmain.border = 1 --> Nothing
> Fmain.border = 2 --> Nothing
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarzua F
> 

>??

>Border is a boolean property.

Sorry, I thought it worked as in gambas2. What would in Gambas3?

Regards.

Cristian Abarz?a F






From rterry at ...1946...  Sat Sep 18 08:53:50 2010
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:53:50 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Spacing property.
Message-ID: <201009181653.50614.rterry@...1946...>


Hi Benoit,

Do you remember a long time ago you changed things so that  spacing went from 
the ability to do 1 pixel or more to spacing = True.

I find this is the single biggest annoyance of GUI design in gambas, as since 
that time one lost easy control of spacing controls within a container as the 
'true' seems to be > 1 pixel and leaves quite a wide gap.

Any chance of reconsidering this in some way? I  thought at the time it was a 
backward step and have been meaning to take this up with you for some time.

Regards

richard



From ihaywood at ...1979...  Sat Sep 18 10:33:23 2010
From: ihaywood at ...1979... (Ian Haywood)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:33:23 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] circular inheritance
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik=QikcPMy1KejwCayToo0mNdj_YU9V+aMqXkLQ@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik=QikcPMy1KejwCayToo0mNdj_YU9V+aMqXkLQ@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=PU5-0Fvpp-pi4Q9N4k8_UGkHwTLE4fgTt7TDk@...627...>

When the IDE starts up (gambas3 r3025 on Ubuntu Karmic) I get a
warning about circular inheitance on CAuditTrailLink
CAuditTrailLink inerits from CWebLink which inherits form CLink.
CAuditTrailLink is in a different source directory than CLink and
CWebLink

I don't understand how this is "circular"?

Thanks,

Ian
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Sep 18 11:35:39 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:35:39 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] circular inheritance
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=PU5-0Fvpp-pi4Q9N4k8_UGkHwTLE4fgTt7TDk@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik=QikcPMy1KejwCayToo0mNdj_YU9V+aMqXkLQ@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=PU5-0Fvpp-pi4Q9N4k8_UGkHwTLE4fgTt7TDk@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim+npbkZxGMVfhjjN3bOcjuk9sdUV2MvQPn082-@...627...>

I need more than these three classes to understand the problem. sends
me a small project showing the problem please

2010/9/18 Ian Haywood <ihaywood at ...1979...>:
> When the IDE starts up (gambas3 r3025 on Ubuntu Karmic) I get a
> warning about circular inheitance on CAuditTrailLink
> CAuditTrailLink inerits from CWebLink which inherits form CLink.
> CAuditTrailLink is in a different source directory than CLink and
> CWebLink
>
> I don't understand how this is "circular"?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ian
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From ihaywood at ...1979...  Sat Sep 18 12:20:24 2010
From: ihaywood at ...1979... (Ian Haywood)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:20:24 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] circular inheritance
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim+npbkZxGMVfhjjN3bOcjuk9sdUV2MvQPn082-@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik=QikcPMy1KejwCayToo0mNdj_YU9V+aMqXkLQ@...627...>
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On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:
> I need more than these three classes to understand the problem. sends
> me a small project showing the problem please
Here 'tis

Ian
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Sep 18 12:44:34 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:44:34 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] circular inheritance
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0dS=ATgodbFUnp9M99beNNgVJ+d_qe4jzMUJe@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik=QikcPMy1KejwCayToo0mNdj_YU9V+aMqXkLQ@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=PU5-0Fvpp-pi4Q9N4k8_UGkHwTLE4fgTt7TDk@...627...>
	<AANLkTim+npbkZxGMVfhjjN3bOcjuk9sdUV2MvQPn082-@...627...>
	<AANLkTik0dS=ATgodbFUnp9M99beNNgVJ+d_qe4jzMUJe@...627...>
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it seem to be a bug in the ide ... don't take care about this ...

For Benoit :
Project.DoRefresh

2010/9/18 Ian Haywood <ihaywood at ...1979...>:
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:
>> I need more than these three classes to understand the problem. sends
>> me a small project showing the problem please
> Here 'tis
>
> Ian
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From shanep at ...2481...  Sat Sep 18 12:53:09 2010
From: shanep at ...2481... (Shane)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:53:09 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Mouse Events for gridview
Message-ID: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>

is there any way of getting continuous mousemove events without pressing 
a button for the gridview control ?




From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 14:52:08 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:52:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Mouse Events for gridview
In-Reply-To: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>
References: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>
Message-ID: <201009181452.08375.gambas@...1...>

> is there any way of getting continuous mousemove events without pressing
> a button for the gridview control ?
> 

The Tracking property.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 14:53:44 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:53:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Spacing property.
In-Reply-To: <201009181653.50614.rterry@...1946...>
References: <201009181653.50614.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <201009181453.44947.gambas@...1...>

> Hi Benoit,
> 
> Do you remember a long time ago you changed things so that  spacing went
> from the ability to do 1 pixel or more to spacing = True.
> 
> I find this is the single biggest annoyance of GUI design in gambas, as
> since that time one lost easy control of spacing controls within a
> container as the 'true' seems to be > 1 pixel and leaves quite a wide gap.
> 
> Any chance of reconsidering this in some way? I  thought at the time it was
> a backward step and have been meaning to take this up with you for some
> time.
> 
> Regards
> 
> richard

Please give a concrete example. Because usually people are annoyed by the 
Spacing property because their GUI is too cluttered.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 14:54:13 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:54:13 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Test Gambas 2.99 Rev 3227
In-Reply-To: <1284775568.1862.2.camel@...2406...>
References: <1284768638.2437.3.camel@...2406...>
	<201009180221.30238.gambas@...1...>
	<1284775568.1862.2.camel@...2406...>
Message-ID: <201009181454.13535.gambas@...1...>

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> Reply-to: mailing list for gambas users
> <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Para: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Test Gambas 2.99 Rev 3227
> Fecha: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 02:21:30 +0200
> 
> > OS    : Ubuntu 10.4
> > Gnome : 2.30.2
> > 
> > Fmain.border = 0 -->Work, show form without borders
> > Fmain.border = 1 --> Nothing
> > Fmain.border = 2 --> Nothing
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > Cristian Abarzua F
> >
> >??
> >
> >Border is a boolean property.
> 
> Sorry, I thought it worked as in gambas2. What would in Gambas3?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Cristian Abarz?a F
> 

Now you have two booleans properties: Border and Resizable. 
 
Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 15:26:55 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:26:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] circular inheritance
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik0dS=ATgodbFUnp9M99beNNgVJ+d_qe4jzMUJe@...627...>
References: <AANLkTik=QikcPMy1KejwCayToo0mNdj_YU9V+aMqXkLQ@...627...>
	<AANLkTim+npbkZxGMVfhjjN3bOcjuk9sdUV2MvQPn082-@...627...>
	<AANLkTik0dS=ATgodbFUnp9M99beNNgVJ+d_qe4jzMUJe@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009181526.55338.gambas@...1...>

> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...> wrote:
> > I need more than these three classes to understand the problem. sends
> > me a small project showing the problem please
> 
> Here 'tis
> 
> Ian

It should be better in revision #3229. If not, please send the full project.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 15:30:15 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:30:15 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Need advice about a Gambas bug tracker
Message-ID: <201009181530.15753.gambas@...1...>

Hi,

I have started to setup a Gambas bugtracker on code.google.com for 3.0.

Does someone know bugtrackers well ? The Google one has the simplicity I'd 
like to have, but I'd like to not be forced to host the bugtracker there.

Thanks for any advice.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From shanep at ...2481...  Sat Sep 18 15:50:05 2010
From: shanep at ...2481... (Shane)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:50:05 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Mouse Events for gridview
In-Reply-To: <201009181452.08375.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>
	<201009181452.08375.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C94C38D.3020305@...2481...>

On 18/09/10 22:52, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> is there any way of getting continuous mousemove events without pressing
>> a button for the gridview control ?
>>
>>      
> The Tracking property.
>
>    
sorry should have mentioned that I was using gambas 2
so what version of gambas should we be using??
I have tried gambas 3 but I find Gambas 2 better
as I mentioned earlier I like To Have Borders Around my controls
at lest at design time so you know where they are



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 15:52:10 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:52:10 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Mouse Events for gridview
In-Reply-To: <4C94C38D.3020305@...2481...>
References: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>
	<201009181452.08375.gambas@...1...>
	<4C94C38D.3020305@...2481...>
Message-ID: <201009181552.10663.gambas@...1...>

> On 18/09/10 22:52, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> >> is there any way of getting continuous mousemove events without pressing
> >> a button for the gridview control ?
> > 
> > The Tracking property.
> 
> sorry should have mentioned that I was using gambas 2
> so what version of gambas should we be using??
> I have tried gambas 3 but I find Gambas 2 better
> as I mentioned earlier I like To Have Borders Around my controls
> at lest at design time so you know where they are
> 

You just have to change your Qt style! :-)

If you don't use KDE but Gnome, find a program named "qtconfig" or 
"qt4config", and with it you will be able to choose a style where frame have 
borders.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From shanep at ...2481...  Sat Sep 18 16:18:54 2010
From: shanep at ...2481... (Shane)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 00:18:54 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Mouse Events for gridview
In-Reply-To: <201009181552.10663.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>	<201009181452.08375.gambas@...1...>	<4C94C38D.3020305@...2481...>
	<201009181552.10663.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C94CA4E.7060001@...2481...>

On 18/09/10 23:52, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> On 18/09/10 22:52, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>      
>>>> is there any way of getting continuous mousemove events without pressing
>>>> a button for the gridview control ?
>>>>          
>>> The Tracking property.
>>>        
>> sorry should have mentioned that I was using gambas 2
>> so what version of gambas should we be using??
>> I have tried gambas 3 but I find Gambas 2 better
>> as I mentioned earlier I like To Have Borders Around my controls
>> at lest at design time so you know where they are
>>
>>      
> You just have to change your Qt style! :-)
>
> If you don't use KDE but Gnome, find a program named "qtconfig" or
> "qt4config", and with it you will be able to choose a style where frame have
> borders.
>
> Regards,
>
>    
Ok Thanks Benoit that's what I wanted I now have a border at design time but
no border in the properties box is this correct do I need to recompile?




From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 16:20:09 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:20:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] bug in dialog.filter with gb.gtk?
In-Reply-To: <201009171743.35222.rospolosco@...152...>
References: <201009171743.35222.rospolosco@...152...>
Message-ID: <201009181620.09204.gambas@...1...>

> Hi, Benoit.
> 
> In the attached small project, if you set gb.gtk,
> dialog.filter doesn't work as expected.
> No problem with gb.qt. Is it a bug?
> 
> Gambas 2.20
> Qt 3.3.8b
> Gtk 2.12.12
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Stefano

You should follow the syntax requested by Dialog.Filter, it will work better!

See the documentation of Dialog.Filter at 
http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.qt/dialog/filter?v2

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 16:21:17 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:21:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Mouse Events for gridview
In-Reply-To: <4C94CA4E.7060001@...2481...>
References: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>
	<201009181552.10663.gambas@...1...>
	<4C94CA4E.7060001@...2481...>
Message-ID: <201009181621.17807.gambas@...1...>

> On 18/09/10 23:52, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> >> On 18/09/10 22:52, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> >>>> is there any way of getting continuous mousemove events without
> >>>> pressing a button for the gridview control ?
> >>> 
> >>> The Tracking property.
> >> 
> >> sorry should have mentioned that I was using gambas 2
> >> so what version of gambas should we be using??
> >> I have tried gambas 3 but I find Gambas 2 better
> >> as I mentioned earlier I like To Have Borders Around my controls
> >> at lest at design time so you know where they are
> > 
> > You just have to change your Qt style! :-)
> > 
> > If you don't use KDE but Gnome, find a program named "qtconfig" or
> > "qt4config", and with it you will be able to choose a style where frame
> > have borders.
> > 
> > Regards,
> 
> Ok Thanks Benoit that's what I wanted I now have a border at design time
> but no border in the properties box is this correct do I need to
> recompile?
> 

Give a screenshot to see what you are talking about.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From rospolosco at ...152...  Sat Sep 18 17:39:14 2010
From: rospolosco at ...152... (Stefano Palmeri)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:39:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] bug in dialog.filter with gb.gtk?
In-Reply-To: <201009181620.09204.gambas@...1...>
References: <201009171743.35222.rospolosco@...152...>
	<201009181620.09204.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <201009181739.14563.rospolosco@...152...>

Il sabato 18 settembre 2010 16:20:09 Beno?t Minisini ha scritto:
> > Hi, Benoit.
> >
> > In the attached small project, if you set gb.gtk,
> > dialog.filter doesn't work as expected.
> > No problem with gb.qt. Is it a bug?
> >
> > Gambas 2.20
> > Qt 3.3.8b
> > Gtk 2.12.12
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Stefano
>
> You should follow the syntax requested by Dialog.Filter, it will work
> better!
>
> See the documentation of Dialog.Filter at
> http://gambasdoc.org/help/comp/gb.qt/dialog/filter?v2
>
> Regards,

Me, stupid. Thanks.

Stefano



From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Sat Sep 18 18:18:06 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:18:06 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternative to differentiate private and public
	symbols on the IDE
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=bv=JLwd2xpLhwdWWVK=_rzTJwED3F+AcagQ3O@...627...>

Often, we use conventions of prefix to distinguish symbols public and
private. An alternative way to do this would be allow to have
differents colors to highlight public and private symbols, by
disaggregating the item "Symbols" in Tools > Preferences > Style to
"Public Symbols" and "Private Symbols".


-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 18:41:36 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:41:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternative to differentiate private and public
	symbols on the IDE
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=bv=JLwd2xpLhwdWWVK=_rzTJwED3F+AcagQ3O@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=bv=JLwd2xpLhwdWWVK=_rzTJwED3F+AcagQ3O@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009181841.36716.gambas@...1...>

> Often, we use conventions of prefix to distinguish symbols public and
> private. An alternative way to do this would be allow to have
> differents colors to highlight public and private symbols, by
> disaggregating the item "Symbols" in Tools > Preferences > Style to
> "Public Symbols" and "Private Symbols".

Alas the syntax highlighter is line-based, and does not know if a symbol is 
public or private. 

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From dr.diesel at ...626...  Sat Sep 18 19:52:38 2010
From: dr.diesel at ...626... (Dr.Diesel)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:52:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Need advice about a Gambas bug tracker
In-Reply-To: <201009181530.15753.gambas@...1...>
References: <201009181530.15753.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <29747594.post@...1379...>



Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have started to setup a Gambas bugtracker on code.google.com for 3.0.
> 
> Does someone know bugtrackers well ? The Google one has the simplicity I'd 
> like to have, but I'd like to not be forced to host the bugtracker there.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> 

Is there something particular you don't like about the google bugtracker?
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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 20:01:57 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:01:57 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Need advice about a Gambas bug tracker
In-Reply-To: <29747594.post@...1379...>
References: <201009181530.15753.gambas@...1...>
	<29747594.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <201009182001.57308.gambas@...1...>

> Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have started to setup a Gambas bugtracker on code.google.com for 3.0.
> > 
> > Does someone know bugtrackers well ? The Google one has the simplicity
> > I'd like to have, but I'd like to not be forced to host the bugtracker
> > there.
> > 
> > Thanks for any advice.
> > 
> > Regards,
> 
> Is there something particular you don't like about the google bugtracker?

- The font is too small.

- Apparently the space disk for attachment is very small. And most of the time 
attaching a project is needed to fix a bug.

http://code.google.com/p/gambas

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From dr.diesel at ...626...  Sat Sep 18 20:17:06 2010
From: dr.diesel at ...626... (Dr.Diesel)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:17:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Need advice about a Gambas bug tracker
In-Reply-To: <201009182001.57308.gambas@...1...>
References: <201009181530.15753.gambas@...1...>
	<29747594.post@...1379...>
	<201009182001.57308.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <29747735.post@...1379...>



Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> 
>> Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > 
>> > I have started to setup a Gambas bugtracker on code.google.com for 3.0.
>> > 
>> > Does someone know bugtrackers well ? The Google one has the simplicity
>> > I'd like to have, but I'd like to not be forced to host the bugtracker
>> > there.
>> > 
>> > Thanks for any advice.
>> > 
>> > Regards,
>> 
>> Is there something particular you don't like about the google bugtracker?
> 
> - The font is too small.
> 
> - Apparently the space disk for attachment is very small. And most of the
> time 
> attaching a project is needed to fix a bug.
> 
> http://code.google.com/p/gambas
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 

Mmmm, I can find they offer 2GB of total project storage.  Unable to find
the attachment limit!  

I also like the interface and it integrates well with gmail!  The font size
seems OK to me.
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From fabianfloresvadell at ...626...  Sat Sep 18 21:16:44 2010
From: fabianfloresvadell at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Flores_Vadell?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:16:44 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternative to differentiate private and public
 symbols on the IDE
In-Reply-To: <201009181841.36716.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTi=bv=JLwd2xpLhwdWWVK=_rzTJwED3F+AcagQ3O@...627...>
	<201009181841.36716.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikZAM5V0bcQoitCMc+RZwCbBRd1rnhHUq6-=mzf@...627...>

2010/9/18 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> Alas the syntax highlighter is line-based, and does not know if a symbol is
> public or private.
>

And the solution could be just keep a track about if symbols in a
proyect are public or private. Or you've frozen the addition of new
features?

-- 
Fabi?n Flores Vadell
www.speedbooksargentina.blogspot.com



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 18 21:24:05 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:24:05 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Alternative to differentiate private and public
	symbols on the IDE
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikZAM5V0bcQoitCMc+RZwCbBRd1rnhHUq6-=mzf@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=bv=JLwd2xpLhwdWWVK=_rzTJwED3F+AcagQ3O@...627...>
	<201009181841.36716.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTikZAM5V0bcQoitCMc+RZwCbBRd1rnhHUq6-=mzf@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009182124.05617.gambas@...1...>

> 2010/9/18 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
> > Alas the syntax highlighter is line-based, and does not know if a symbol
> > is public or private.
> 
> And the solution could be just keep a track about if symbols in a
> proyect are public or private. Or you've frozen the addition of new
> features?

I don't see a solution in what you say: the syntax highlighter being line-
based, how could it know if a symbol is public or private? A new syntax 
highlighter must be written for that. And don't forget that the syntax 
highlighter is not just for Gambas. It has support for custom highlighters 
written in Gambas.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Sat Sep 18 23:45:18 2010
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (EA7DFH)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:45:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Need advice about a Gambas bug tracker
In-Reply-To: <201009181530.15753.gambas@...1...>
References: <201009181530.15753.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C9532EE.40703@...2382...>

El 18/09/10 15:30, Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
> Hi,
> 
> I have started to setup a Gambas bugtracker on code.google.com for 3.0.
> 
> Does someone know bugtrackers well ? The Google one has the simplicity I'd 
> like to have, but I'd like to not be forced to host the bugtracker there.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> 
> Regards,
> 

I'm using assembla for my projects. Looks more professional than google
code, and it is free only for GPL public projects. Also the limit is
2Gb, but it has a lot of features:

http://www.assembla.com/features/compare



-- 
Jesus, EA7DFH



From shanep at ...2481...  Sun Sep 19 01:19:01 2010
From: shanep at ...2481... (Shane)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:19:01 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Mouse Events for gridview
In-Reply-To: <201009181621.17807.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>	<201009181552.10663.gambas@...1...>	<4C94CA4E.7060001@...2481...>
	<201009181621.17807.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C9548E5.6090703@...2481...>

On 19/09/10 00:21, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> On 18/09/10 23:52, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>      
>>>> On 18/09/10 22:52, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>>> is there any way of getting continuous mousemove events without
>>>>>> pressing a button for the gridview control ?
>>>>>>              
>>>>> The Tracking property.
>>>>>            
>>>> sorry should have mentioned that I was using gambas 2
>>>> so what version of gambas should we be using??
>>>> I have tried gambas 3 but I find Gambas 2 better
>>>> as I mentioned earlier I like To Have Borders Around my controls
>>>> at lest at design time so you know where they are
>>>>          
>>> You just have to change your Qt style! :-)
>>>
>>> If you don't use KDE but Gnome, find a program named "qtconfig" or
>>> "qt4config", and with it you will be able to choose a style where frame
>>> have borders.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>        
>> Ok Thanks Benoit that's what I wanted I now have a border at design time
>> but no border in the properties box is this correct do I need to
>> recompile?
>>
>>      
> Give a screenshot to see what you are talking about.
>
>    
here you go
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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 19 01:26:10 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:26:10 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Mouse Events for gridview
In-Reply-To: <4C9548E5.6090703@...2481...>
References: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>
	<201009181621.17807.gambas@...1...>
	<4C9548E5.6090703@...2481...>
Message-ID: <201009190126.10120.gambas@...1...>

> > 
> > Give a screenshot to see what you are talking about.
> 
> here you go

Everything seems to be correct in that screenshot. What's the problem?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From shanep at ...2481...  Sun Sep 19 01:38:08 2010
From: shanep at ...2481... (Shane)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:38:08 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Mouse Events for gridview
In-Reply-To: <201009190126.10120.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>	<201009181621.17807.gambas@...1...>	<4C9548E5.6090703@...2481...>
	<201009190126.10120.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C954D60.5060603@...2481...>

On 19/09/10 09:26, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>> Give a screenshot to see what you are talking about.
>>>        
>> here you go
>>      
> Everything seems to be correct in that screenshot. What's the problem?
>
>    
is there not meant to be a border property in the properties box ?



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 19 01:41:12 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:41:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Mouse Events for gridview
In-Reply-To: <4C954D60.5060603@...2481...>
References: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>
	<201009190126.10120.gambas@...1...>
	<4C954D60.5060603@...2481...>
Message-ID: <201009190141.12211.gambas@...1...>

> On 19/09/10 09:26, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
> >>> Give a screenshot to see what you are talking about.
> >> 
> >> here you go
> > 
> > Everything seems to be correct in that screenshot. What's the problem?
> 
> is there not meant to be a border property in the properties box ?
> 

What do you want? A Border property in the Frame class?

If you want no border, then don't use Frame, use Panel.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From shanep at ...2481...  Sun Sep 19 02:01:22 2010
From: shanep at ...2481... (Shane)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:01:22 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Mouse Events for gridview
In-Reply-To: <201009190141.12211.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C949A15.9000001@...2481...>	<201009190126.10120.gambas@...1...>	<4C954D60.5060603@...2481...>
	<201009190141.12211.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C9552D2.9020105@...2481...>

On 19/09/10 09:41, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>> On 19/09/10 09:26, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>      
>>>>> Give a screenshot to see what you are talking about.
>>>>>            
>>>> here you go
>>>>          
>>> Everything seems to be correct in that screenshot. What's the problem?
>>>        
>> is there not meant to be a border property in the properties box ?
>>
>>      
> What do you want? A Border property in the Frame class?
>
> If you want no border, then don't use Frame, use Panel.
>
> Regards,
>
>    
sorry to be a pain that's all fine I was just wondering if there should 
be a property for it but
obviously not ! thanks




From jpierrel85 at ...626...  Sun Sep 19 09:57:46 2010
From: jpierrel85 at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean=2Dpierre_Lain=E9?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:57:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Spacing property.
In-Reply-To: <201009181453.44947.gambas@...1...>
References: <201009181653.50614.rterry@...1946...>
	<201009181453.44947.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinCR8TmpjtZPYFLAU9qJghAtsD-SHEGoATK257z@...627...>

Pour Benoit Minisini, ou le mod?rateur du groupe.
Bonjour ? tous, je suis en train de me lancer en Gambas (2).
L'OS est UBUNTU.
Mais je me suis b?tement inscrit sur une liste "anglo saxonne" et "my
englisch is very tr?s bad!".
Pour autant et en quelques mots, je souhaite r?aliser un sismographe sous
une plateforme "linuxienne".
1 je ne connais rien de Linux, et comme le saut ? l'?lastique, je me lance
dans le vide.
2 mon anglais est proche de z?ro, et tend vers l'infiniment petit !
3 je suis fatigu? de devoir adapter et r??crire mes progs, (vb2, 3,4
5,...............n versions dans l'avenir !) et de me taper (deme faire
taper mon pognon) par les OS qui montent, qui montent ......98, 2000, x....,
vist....  et les sept p?ch?s capitaux.
4 je ne suis qu'un amateur et un autodidacte, et il me faut du temps pour
m'adapter.

Voil?, j'esp?re que le mod?rateur ne m'en voudra pas.
Comment faire pour se rayer de cette liste, j'ai un flot continu de
courriels , tous en anglais!
Bien cordialement, un papy qui rentre dans la classe des jeunes pingouins.
Amiti?s Jean-Pierre

Le 18 septembre 2010 14:53, Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...> a
?crit :

> > Hi Benoit,
> >
> > Do you remember a long time ago you changed things so that  spacing went
> > from the ability to do 1 pixel or more to spacing = True.
> >
> > I find this is the single biggest annoyance of GUI design in gambas, as
> > since that time one lost easy control of spacing controls within a
> > container as the 'true' seems to be > 1 pixel and leaves quite a wide
> gap.
> >
> > Any chance of reconsidering this in some way? I  thought at the time it
> was
> > a backward step and have been meaning to take this up with you for some
> > time.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > richard
>
> Please give a concrete example. Because usually people are annoyed by the
> Spacing property because their GUI is too cluttered.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
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From wdahn at ...1000...  Sun Sep 19 10:11:32 2010
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:11:32 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Spacing property.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinCR8TmpjtZPYFLAU9qJghAtsD-SHEGoATK257z@...627...>
References: <201009181653.50614.rterry@...1946...>	<201009181453.44947.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTinCR8TmpjtZPYFLAU9qJghAtsD-SHEGoATK257z@...627...>
Message-ID: <4C95C5B4.2010608@...1000...>

On 19/09/10 15:57, Jean-pierre Lain? wrote:
> Pour Benoit Minisini, ou le mod?rateur du groupe.
> Bonjour ? tous, je suis en train de me lancer en Gambas (2).
> L'OS est UBUNTU.
> Mais je me suis b?tement inscrit sur une liste "anglo saxonne" et "my
> englisch is very tr?s bad!".
> Pour autant et en quelques mots, je souhaite r?aliser un sismographe sous
> une plateforme "linuxienne".
> 1 je ne connais rien de Linux, et comme le saut ? l'?lastique, je me lance
> dans le vide.
> 2 mon anglais est proche de z?ro, et tend vers l'infiniment petit !
> 3 je suis fatigu? de devoir adapter et r??crire mes progs, (vb2, 3,4
> 5,...............n versions dans l'avenir !) et de me taper (deme faire
> taper mon pognon) par les OS qui montent, qui montent ......98, 2000, x....,
> vist....  et les sept p?ch?s capitaux.
> 4 je ne suis qu'un amateur et un autodidacte, et il me faut du temps pour
> m'adapter.
>
> Voil?, j'esp?re que le mod?rateur ne m'en voudra pas.
> Comment faire pour se rayer de cette liste, j'ai un flot continu de
> courriels , tous en anglais!
> Bien cordialement, un papy qui rentre dans la classe des jeunes pingouins.
> Amiti?s Jean-Pierre
>
>   
Babelfish says: :-D

For Benoit Minisini, or the regulator of the group. Hello with all, I am
launching me in Gamba (2). L' OS is UBUNTU. But I was stupidly
registered on a list " anglo saxonne" and " my englisch is very very
bad! ". For as much and in a few words, I wish to carry out a
seismograph under a platform " linuxienne".
1 I do not know anything Linux, and like the jump with l' rubber band, I
launch out in the vacuum.
2 my English is close to zero, and tends towards l' infinitely small!
3 I am tired to have to adapt and rewrite my progs, (vb2, 3,4 5,
............... N versions in l' future!) and to type me (deme to make
type my dough) by OS which assembles, which assembles ...... 98, 2000,
X?., vist?. and seven deadly sins.
4 I am not qu' an amateur and an autodidact, and it takes me time for m'
to adapt.

Here are, j' hope that the regulator m' in will not want. How to make to
stripe this list, j' have a continuous flood of emails, all in English!
Well cordially, a grandpa who returns in the class of the young
penguins. Jean-Pierre friendships



From jpierrel85 at ...626...  Sun Sep 19 10:19:01 2010
From: jpierrel85 at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean=2Dpierre_Lain=E9?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:19:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Spacing property.
In-Reply-To: <4C95C5B4.2010608@...1000...>
References: <201009181653.50614.rterry@...1946...>
	<201009181453.44947.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTinCR8TmpjtZPYFLAU9qJghAtsD-SHEGoATK257z@...627...>
	<4C95C5B4.2010608@...1000...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimBGf+5FT2axJN8EZg2+OXuugLo5xL-j2jfEjee@...627...>

Waooooooo ! ...........................
Tanks Werner !
Old timer Jean-Pierre

2010/9/19 Werner <wdahn at ...1000...>

> On 19/09/10 15:57, Jean-pierre Lain? wrote:
> > Pour Benoit Minisini, ou le mod?rateur du groupe.
> > Bonjour ? tous, je suis en train de me lancer en Gambas (2).
> > L'OS est UBUNTU.
> > Mais je me suis b?tement inscrit sur une liste "anglo saxonne" et "my
> > englisch is very tr?s bad!".
> > Pour autant et en quelques mots, je souhaite r?aliser un sismographe sous
> > une plateforme "linuxienne".
> > 1 je ne connais rien de Linux, et comme le saut ? l'?lastique, je me
> lance
> > dans le vide.
> > 2 mon anglais est proche de z?ro, et tend vers l'infiniment petit !
> > 3 je suis fatigu? de devoir adapter et r??crire mes progs, (vb2, 3,4
> > 5,...............n versions dans l'avenir !) et de me taper (deme faire
> > taper mon pognon) par les OS qui montent, qui montent ......98, 2000,
> x....,
> > vist....  et les sept p?ch?s capitaux.
> > 4 je ne suis qu'un amateur et un autodidacte, et il me faut du temps pour
> > m'adapter.
> >
> > Voil?, j'esp?re que le mod?rateur ne m'en voudra pas.
> > Comment faire pour se rayer de cette liste, j'ai un flot continu de
> > courriels , tous en anglais!
> > Bien cordialement, un papy qui rentre dans la classe des jeunes
> pingouins.
> > Amiti?s Jean-Pierre
> >
> >
> Babelfish says: :-D
>
> For Benoit Minisini, or the regulator of the group. Hello with all, I am
> launching me in Gamba (2). L' OS is UBUNTU. But I was stupidly
> registered on a list " anglo saxonne" and " my englisch is very very
> bad! ". For as much and in a few words, I wish to carry out a
> seismograph under a platform " linuxienne".
> 1 I do not know anything Linux, and like the jump with l' rubber band, I
> launch out in the vacuum.
> 2 my English is close to zero, and tends towards l' infinitely small!
> 3 I am tired to have to adapt and rewrite my progs, (vb2, 3,4 5,
> ............... N versions in l' future!) and to type me (deme to make
> type my dough) by OS which assembles, which assembles ...... 98, 2000,
> X?., vist?. and seven deadly sins.
> 4 I am not qu' an amateur and an autodidact, and it takes me time for m'
> to adapt.
>
> Here are, j' hope that the regulator m' in will not want. How to make to
> stripe this list, j' have a continuous flood of emails, all in English!
> Well cordially, a grandpa who returns in the class of the young
> penguins. Jean-Pierre friendships
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


From rolf.frogs at ...221...  Sun Sep 19 10:42:51 2010
From: rolf.frogs at ...221... (Rolf Schmidt)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:42:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Spacing property.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinCR8TmpjtZPYFLAU9qJghAtsD-SHEGoATK257z@...627...>
References: <201009181653.50614.rterry@...1946...>
	<201009181453.44947.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTinCR8TmpjtZPYFLAU9qJghAtsD-SHEGoATK257z@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009191042.57178.rolf.frogs@...221...>

Am Sonntag, 19. September 2010 schrieb Jean-pierre Lain?:
> Pour Benoit Minisini, ou le mod?rateur du groupe.
> Bonjour ? tous, je suis en train de me lancer en Gambas (2).
> L'OS est UBUNTU.
> Mais je me suis b?tement inscrit sur une liste "anglo saxonne" et "my
> englisch is very tr?s bad!".
> Pour autant et en quelques mots, je souhaite r?aliser un sismographe sous
> une plateforme "linuxienne".
> 1 je ne connais rien de Linux, et comme le saut ? l'?lastique, je me lance
> dans le vide.
> 2 mon anglais est proche de z?ro, et tend vers l'infiniment petit !
> 3 je suis fatigu? de devoir adapter et r??crire mes progs, (vb2, 3,4
> 5,...............n versions dans l'avenir !) et de me taper (deme faire
> taper mon pognon) par les OS qui montent, qui montent ......98, 2000,
> x...., vist....  et les sept p?ch?s capitaux.
> 4 je ne suis qu'un amateur et un autodidacte, et il me faut du temps pour
> m'adapter.
>
> Voil?, j'esp?re que le mod?rateur ne m'en voudra pas.
> Comment faire pour se rayer de cette liste, j'ai un flot continu de
> courriels , tous en anglais!
> Bien cordialement, un papy qui rentre dans la classe des jeunes pingouins.
> Amiti?s Jean-Pierre
Mein Deutsch ist auch bedeuten besser als mein englisch und ich muss mich auch 
damit abm?hen.
Also bitte auf englisch schreiben.

Rolf
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From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Sun Sep 19 12:44:20 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:44:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Spacing property.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinCR8TmpjtZPYFLAU9qJghAtsD-SHEGoATK257z@...627...>
References: <201009181653.50614.rterry@...1946...>	<201009181453.44947.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTinCR8TmpjtZPYFLAU9qJghAtsD-SHEGoATK257z@...627...>
Message-ID: <4C95E984.70503@...1909...>

Jean-pierre Lain? ha scritto:
"google translate" mon reponse...
> Pour Benoit Minisini, ou le mod?rateur du groupe.
> Bonjour ? tous, je suis en train de me lancer en Gambas (2).
> L'OS est UBUNTU.
> Mais je me suis b?tement inscrit sur une liste "anglo saxonne" et "my
> englisch is very tr?s bad!".
> Pour autant et en quelques mots, je souhaite r?aliser un sismographe sous
> une plateforme "linuxienne".
> 1 je ne connais rien de Linux, et comme le saut ? l'?lastique, je me lance
> dans le vide.
>   
I admire you for that. You will not regret: you will not be alone on 
this path - when in need, write to this list.

> 2 mon anglais est proche de z?ro, et tend vers l'infiniment petit!
>   
Google's translator will be your friend... and don't worry about its 
ugly results - this list is not about good english.

> 3 je suis fatigu? de devoir adapter et r??crire mes progs, (vb2, 3,4
> 5,...............n versions dans l'avenir !) et de me taper (deme faire
> taper mon pognon) par les OS qui montent, qui montent ......98, 2000, x....,
> vist....  et les sept p?ch?s capitaux.
>   
Everyone will soon or later discover this - again, welcome to the right 
place for you!

> 4 je ne suis qu'un amateur et un autodidacte, et il me faut du temps pour
> m'adapter.
>   
Everyone in the life is a beginner, and even more in the programming world.

> Voil?, j'esp?re que le mod?rateur ne m'en voudra pas.
> Comment faire pour se rayer de cette liste, j'ai un flot continu de
> courriels , tous en anglais!
> Bien cordialement, un papy qui rentre dans la classe des jeunes pingouins.
> Amiti?s Jean-Pierre
>   
:-) Why do you think everyone here is a young penguin?
Anyway, I think perhaps there is a french list for gambas. If not, or if 
this list is bigger, try to use this one. Nobody will get angry if you 
don't write a good english - simply try to get understood.

Regards,

-- 
Doriano Blengino

"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."




From bill-lancaster at ...2231...  Sun Sep 19 14:13:20 2010
From: bill-lancaster at ...2231... (Bill-Lancaster)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:13:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user]  SQLTE3 >date function
Message-ID: <29751718.post@...1379...>


I want to extract records between 2 dates from a date type field (TransDate)
but using:-

hResult = FMain.$hConn.Find("transactions", "TransDate >= '2009-07-01')
produces the same result as
hResult = FMain.$hConn.Find("transactions", "TransDate > '2009-07-01').

Also sometimes records 1 day older than requested can be returned.

Using strftime seem very tricky for say dates between 2009-06-30 and
2010-07-01.

Any thoughts?

Bill Lancaster
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View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/SQLTE3-%3Edate-function-tp29751718p29751718.html
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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 19 15:59:20 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:59:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Spacing property.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinCR8TmpjtZPYFLAU9qJghAtsD-SHEGoATK257z@...627...>
References: <201009181653.50614.rterry@...1946...>
	<201009181453.44947.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTinCR8TmpjtZPYFLAU9qJghAtsD-SHEGoATK257z@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009191559.20599.gambas@...1...>

> Pour Benoit Minisini, ou le mod?rateur du groupe.
> Bonjour ? tous, je suis en train de me lancer en Gambas (2).
> L'OS est UBUNTU.
> Mais je me suis b?tement inscrit sur une liste "anglo saxonne" et "my
> englisch is very tr?s bad!".

Pour les fran?ais non anglophones, il y a la mailing-list fran?aise.

Cordialement,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 19 16:02:33 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:02:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Specifying the location of new Gambas components
In-Reply-To: <20100917123251.e1e173d4d0ade52f14861472765841ca.988834c17c.wbe@...2483...>
References: <20100917123251.e1e173d4d0ade52f14861472765841ca.988834c17c.wbe@...2483...>
Message-ID: <201009191602.33690.gambas@...1...>

>    We have created some new components for Gambas and we've been putting
> them into  the  /usr/local/lib/gambas2  directory  with the standard
> Gambas components.   However,  this  directory is locked to the root user,
> so developers can't install components there.
>    Is there a way to install these components to another directory and tell
>    Gambas to look for them there as well as finding the standard modules in
> the /usr/local/lib/gambas2 dir?
>    Thanks in advance.

Are they C/C++ components or components made in Gambas? (Just to know).

Component are searched in:

1) <INSTALL>/lib/gambas2, <INSTALL> being the path where Gambas is installed.

2) ~/.local/lib/gambas2, ~ being the current user home directory.

In that order!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 19 16:03:46 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:03:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Deleting" Forms and Classes
In-Reply-To: <4C9305B4.9010202@...1000...>
References: <4C9305B4.9010202@...1000...>
Message-ID: <201009191603.46108.gambas@...1...>

> This is scary stuff.
> 
> When I right click on item on the list on the left side of the IDE a
> popup menu shows. One of the items is "Delete..."
> 
> I remember the first time I came across it I was so scared that I left
> the IDE and made a backup of the project.
> 
> As I then found out it doesn't actually delete a file but just removes
> it from the project.
> 
> Maybe this menu item should be renamed to something less frightening
> i.e. "Remove from Project"
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Werner Dahn
> 

It does delete the file from the hard disk. Where did you see that the file 
was not removed?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jpierrel85 at ...626...  Sun Sep 19 16:27:17 2010
From: jpierrel85 at ...626... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean=2Dpierre_Lain=E9?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:27:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Spacing property.
In-Reply-To: <201009191559.20599.gambas@...1...>
References: <201009181653.50614.rterry@...1946...>
	<201009181453.44947.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTinCR8TmpjtZPYFLAU9qJghAtsD-SHEGoATK257z@...627...>
	<201009191559.20599.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikL8JjF4jh5kcnYOic=hgKHRvOAoNNrAbJrWtWx@...627...>

Merci Benoit, entre temps je me suis inscrit, mais comment faire pour se
soustraire ? la liste "anglophone" ?
Merci pour votre boulot, je commence ? avoir mes premiers r?sultats
probants, ? plus sur la liste fran?aise.
Cordialement PapyBasic

Le 19 septembre 2010 15:59, Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...> a
?crit :

> > Pour Benoit Minisini, ou le mod?rateur du groupe.
> > Bonjour ? tous, je suis en train de me lancer en Gambas (2).
> > L'OS est UBUNTU.
> > Mais je me suis b?tement inscrit sur une liste "anglo saxonne" et "my
> > englisch is very tr?s bad!".
>
> Pour les fran?ais non anglophones, il y a la mailing-list fran?aise.
>
> Cordialement,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 19 17:00:23 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 17:00:23 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Testing Gambas 2.99
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiko6-fYTX1nhNCyYz=0U1ZCiM-JcfqjNuiPiy3b@...627...>
References: <1284606137.6932.9.camel@...2406...>
	<1284733678.1459.10.camel@...2406...>
	<AANLkTiko6-fYTX1nhNCyYz=0U1ZCiM-JcfqjNuiPiy3b@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009191700.23623.gambas@...1...>

> Colorbutton bug confirmed with Gambas 3 rev 3199, Ubuntu 10.04 64bit.
> Only GTK+ is affected.
> 
> Jussi
> 

Done! The bug has been fixed in revision #3230.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From soleilpqd at ...626...  Sun Sep 19 17:31:59 2010
From: soleilpqd at ...626... (=?UTF-8?B?UGjhuqFtIFF1YW5nIETGsMahbmc=?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:31:59 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help about use table view editing with Return key
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=awMSwJefPNnr=NTi-SyAZnjDMkD5KMsXuLB31@...627...>

Hi,

I created a TableView with three columns.
First, I wrote code so that when user double-click the cell at third column
on a row, the cell start the editing. My program worked fine.
Then I added code so that when the user click the cell at the first column
on a row, this row would be removed. The removing worked fine. But with the
editing, when I pressed Enter (Return) key to finish the editing, some rows
were removed.

I can't find where I'm wrong. Please help, thank you!
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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 19 17:48:18 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 17:48:18 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help about use table view editing with Return key
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=awMSwJefPNnr=NTi-SyAZnjDMkD5KMsXuLB31@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=awMSwJefPNnr=NTi-SyAZnjDMkD5KMsXuLB31@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009191748.18799.gambas@...1...>

> Hi,
> 
> I created a TableView with three columns.
> First, I wrote code so that when user double-click the cell at third column
> on a row, the cell start the editing. My program worked fine.
> Then I added code so that when the user click the cell at the first column
> on a row, this row would be removed. The removing worked fine. But with the
> editing, when I pressed Enter (Return) key to finish the editing, some rows
> were removed.
> 
> I can't find where I'm wrong. Please help, thank you!

The more important question: Why are you using 7zip ? :-)

TableView is designed so that editing is started on click. So, using the arrow 
keys or the Enter keys makes the TableView moves the current cell 
automatically and raise Click events.

If you want another behaviour (like editing on double-click but remove on 
click), then I think you should write your own TableView.

Yet again, DblClick is a low-level event, and Click is not, and it is not 
necessarily comes from a low-level mouse event. The name "Click" is badly 
chosen, it comes from Visual Basic.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 19 17:51:06 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 17:51:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] SQLTE3 >date function
In-Reply-To: <29751718.post@...1379...>
References: <29751718.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <201009191751.06587.gambas@...1...>

> I want to extract records between 2 dates from a date type field
> (TransDate) but using:-
> 
> hResult = FMain.$hConn.Find("transactions", "TransDate >= '2009-07-01')
> produces the same result as
> hResult = FMain.$hConn.Find("transactions", "TransDate > '2009-07-01').
> 
> Also sometimes records 1 day older than requested can be returned.
> 
> Using strftime seem very tricky for say dates between 2009-06-30 and
> 2010-07-01.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Bill Lancaster

Can you make a little sqlite database with a little project that shows the 
problem?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Sun Sep 19 20:49:58 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:49:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] A suggestion for the code editor
In-Reply-To: <201009170406.35114.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C91255B.7050808@...221...>
	<201009170406.35114.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C965B56.50704@...221...>

Yep. That's exactly what I imagined.
Very comfortable, thanks, Benoit!
Matti


Am 17.09.2010 04:06, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:
>> It happens quite often (at least to me, blockhead) that a line of code has
>> to be moved to one ore some lines up or down.
>>
>> Right now, I can't see another way to do this than marking the line and
>> using Ctrl-X and Ctrl-V.
>>
>> My very old text program in the office has a nice command "Alt+Up/Down"
>> that moves a complete line of text up/down (switching the lines), so it is
>> very easy and quick to place a line somewhere else.
>>
>> Maybe an idea for the code editor?
>>
>> Regards
>> Matti
>>
> 
> It's done in revision #3227. Moreover, you can use Alt+Up/Down to move the 
> selection too.
> 
> Regards,
> 



From girardhenri at ...67...  Mon Sep 20 08:17:30 2010
From: girardhenri at ...67... (riri)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:17:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gambas 3 release or otherwise as binary package
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP128CA2DFF50D4DE05A62C0CF97B0@...693...>
References: <AANLkTimDGU8V+6VCN6VcATypSmhOe9afC=wToBCjFNfZ@...627...><AANLkTik4onD=DNez4AVBivB837AOvXM6z_Z1F1TaFfE7@...627...><201009170209.30196.gambas@...1...>
	<BLU0-SMTP128CA2DFF50D4DE05A62C0CF97B0@...693...>
Message-ID: <COL122-DS76607AC71D21225AD8EB3BC7E0@...693...>

A binary (deb) package would be a great thing ! Actually I compiled gambas3 
on ubuntu 10.4.1 perfect ... But having updated to maverick brings a lot of 
problems... I didn't success to compile it anymore !
Henri

-----Message d'origine----- 
From: Dag Jarle Johansen
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 4:48 AM
To: mailing list for gambas users
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] gambas 3 release or otherwise as binary package


Am Freitag, den 17.09.2010, 02:09 +0200 schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> > Benoit,
> >
> > do you have a plan on when gambas 3 will be formally released?
> > IMHO it is quite stable now.
> >
> > The reason I ask is Richard and I are within sight of releasing a
> > stable version of our software, and we would like to submit it to
> > Debian/Ubuntu/fedora etc for inclusion, but it would depend on the
> > gambas3 runtime.
> >
> > If you don't plan to release in the next 6 months or so, would you
> > have any objection to a me developing .deb's for the gambas3 runtime
> > which would be relased at regular intervals, tracking the latest stable 
> > SVN
> > version?
> >
> > Ian
> >
>
> I want to make at least a first release candidate before the end of the 
> year.
>
> I'm currently only fixing bug. I know that Fabien must make a usable 
> gb.report
> component and Laurent has just added a few things in gb.sdl recently.
>
> Before doing the RC (2.99.1), I have to think a bit to see what must be
> changed in the language syntax to be sure that Gambas 3 will be stable 
> until
> the next version.
>
> I have to check all components:
> - A component that is not maintained anymore should be removed.
> - A component, like gb.firebird, that do not have actually a 
> GPL-compatible
> license should be removed as well.
> - The state of component must be up to date too (stable, not finished, 
> beta).
>
> Just after the RC, there are a lot of things to do, besides bug fixing:
>
> - I want to have a bug tracker. I have setup the Google one, but it is not
> activated yet.
>
> - Everybody should try to ensure that his distribution will have correct
> packages of Gambas.
>
> - I'd like to have another look for the web site.
>
> - I'd like people who converted their Gambas 2 project to Gambas 3 by hand 
> to
> write about their experience on a wiki page, so that I will be able to 
> make a
> converter helper tool in the IDE.
>
> - I must then write better internal documentation to try to attract
> developers.
>
> So is the plan!
>

It would be just great, Benoit,

I have to do a lot of programming on Linux-platforms, and as I have to
generate source as well as data-files, Gambas would just be perfect,
much easier than using PHP. I could convince my client to use it too,
not in my first project now, wich has to be completely in PHP, but later
on, and I would see to, you get at last clicks for that.

Not only that, even in our little network in the office, it would be
much easier to use a binary than to install the SVN every time I change
the source. (more or less).  My software is mostly rather easy, just a
picture of the current database (MySQL),

Go on with it - I will be very pleased, when it is published.

Regards,
Dag-Jarle
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From vikramshankarnair at ...2484...  Mon Sep 20 08:26:09 2010
From: vikramshankarnair at ...2484... (vikramshankarnair at ...2484...)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:56:09 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] BOSS Live-installer - A GUI Live Installer for Debian
 and it's derivatives based on remastersys scripts
Message-ID: <19737.10.0.0.4.1284963969.squirrel@...2486...>



Hi,

The BOSS team at the Centre for Development of Advanced Computing
(CDAC), Noida (India) has been working on a live-installer for BOSS GNU/Linux.
BOSS is a Debian derived distribution, its current stable version being based on
Debian 5(Lenny). Therefore the live installer works on Debian Lenny too.

It is developed in Gambas, and uses an adaptation of the remastersys
script. We have tried to reduce the number of screens as far as possible. The
partitioner is a Gambas frontend to GNU Parted, with a minimum of 4GB hard disk
space required for / .

The code & binaries are available at
http://code.google.com/p/bossliveinstaller/ . This project is at version 0.1 at
the moment.

Hope to hear from you all on this.

Regards,
Vikram Shankar Nair
CDAC, Noida



From soleilpqd at ...626...  Mon Sep 20 14:20:32 2010
From: soleilpqd at ...626... (=?UTF-8?B?UGjhuqFtIFF1YW5nIETGsMahbmc=?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:20:32 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help about use table view editing with Return key
In-Reply-To: <201009191748.18799.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTi=awMSwJefPNnr=NTi-SyAZnjDMkD5KMsXuLB31@...627...>
	<201009191748.18799.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Ua063aoVmXg3gtZWZB=MA4HWNHxYjuNU8vJws@...627...>

OK, thank, I understood. Switch click and dblClick event code.

.zip, bzip, gzip is fine why not 7zip
Alors, prochaine fois j'utilise rar >:)


2010/9/19 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>

> > Hi,
> >
> > I created a TableView with three columns.
> > First, I wrote code so that when user double-click the cell at third
> column
> > on a row, the cell start the editing. My program worked fine.
> > Then I added code so that when the user click the cell at the first
> column
> > on a row, this row would be removed. The removing worked fine. But with
> the
> > editing, when I pressed Enter (Return) key to finish the editing, some
> rows
> > were removed.
> >
> > I can't find where I'm wrong. Please help, thank you!
>
> The more important question: Why are you using 7zip ? :-)
>
> TableView is designed so that editing is started on click. So, using the
> arrow
> keys or the Enter keys makes the TableView moves the current cell
> automatically and raise Click events.
>
> If you want another behaviour (like editing on double-click but remove on
> click), then I think you should write your own TableView.
>
> Yet again, DblClick is a low-level event, and Click is not, and it is not
> necessarily comes from a low-level mouse event. The name "Click" is badly
> chosen, it comes from Visual Basic.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



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Mobile: 01683572206
Email: soleilpqd at ...626... / soleilpqd at ...2488...


From surfing at ...2482...  Mon Sep 20 14:02:56 2010
From: surfing at ...2482... (Jay Mallar)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:02:56 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Specifying the location of new Gambas components
In-Reply-To: <201009191602.33690.gambas@...1...>
References: <20100917123251.e1e173d4d0ade52f14861472765841ca.988834c17c.wbe@...2483...>
	<201009191602.33690.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C974D70.3090506@...2482...>

On 09/19/2010 09:02 AM, Beno?t Minisini wrote:
>>     We have created some new components for Gambas and we've been putting
>> them into  the  /usr/local/lib/gambas2  directory  with the standard
>> Gambas components.   However,  this  directory is locked to the root user,
>> so developers can't install components there.
>>     Is there a way to install these components to another directory and tell
>>     Gambas to look for them there as well as finding the standard modules in
>> the /usr/local/lib/gambas2 dir?
>>     Thanks in advance.
>>      
> Are they C/C++ components or components made in Gambas? (Just to know).
>
> Component are searched in:
>
> 1)<INSTALL>/lib/gambas2,<INSTALL>  being the path where Gambas is installed.
>
> 2) ~/.local/lib/gambas2, ~ being the current user home directory.
>
> In that order!
>
> Regards,
>
>    
These are Gambas components - and I think that answers my question - 
thanks Benoit!




From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep 20 15:30:03 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:30:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] "Deleting" Forms and Classes
In-Reply-To: <201009191603.46108.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C9305B4.9010202@...1000...>
	<201009191603.46108.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=cnwxbZLmGR4At+LD2goo5g-At3M8vf8aP3FhS@...627...>

i think he talk about file backup like Form1.form~

Le 19 septembre 2010 16:03, Beno?t Minisini
<gambas at ...1...> a ?crit :
>> This is scary stuff.
>>
>> When I right click on item on the list on the left side of the IDE a
>> popup menu shows. One of the items is "Delete..."
>>
>> I remember the first time I came across it I was so scared that I left
>> the IDE and made a backup of the project.
>>
>> As I then found out it doesn't actually delete a file but just removes
>> it from the project.
>>
>> Maybe this menu item should be renamed to something less frightening
>> i.e. "Remove from Project"
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Werner Dahn
>>
>
> It does delete the file from the hard disk. Where did you see that the file
> was not removed?
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep 20 15:26:14 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:26:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help about use table view editing with Return key
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Ua063aoVmXg3gtZWZB=MA4HWNHxYjuNU8vJws@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=awMSwJefPNnr=NTi-SyAZnjDMkD5KMsXuLB31@...627...>
	<201009191748.18799.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTi=Ua063aoVmXg3gtZWZB=MA4HWNHxYjuNU8vJws@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikVXjczUTEop+4oJoYqaprsQ8sa=+v7AF=w8NAo@...627...>

un tarball c'est bien :)

tar.gz ou tar.bz

2010/9/20 Ph?m Quang D??ng <soleilpqd at ...626...>:
> OK, thank, I understood. Switch click and dblClick event code.
>
> .zip, bzip, gzip is fine why not 7zip
> Alors, prochaine fois j'utilise rar >:)
>
>
> 2010/9/19 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I created a TableView with three columns.
>> > First, I wrote code so that when user double-click the cell at third
>> column
>> > on a row, the cell start the editing. My program worked fine.
>> > Then I added code so that when the user click the cell at the first
>> column
>> > on a row, this row would be removed. The removing worked fine. But with
>> the
>> > editing, when I pressed Enter (Return) key to finish the editing, some
>> rows
>> > were removed.
>> >
>> > I can't find where I'm wrong. Please help, thank you!
>>
>> The more important question: Why are you using 7zip ? :-)
>>
>> TableView is designed so that editing is started on click. So, using the
>> arrow
>> keys or the Enter keys makes the TableView moves the current cell
>> automatically and raise Click events.
>>
>> If you want another behaviour (like editing on double-click but remove on
>> click), then I think you should write your own TableView.
>>
>> Yet again, DblClick is a low-level event, and Click is not, and it is not
>> necessarily comes from a low-level mouse event. The name "Click" is badly
>> chosen, it comes from Visual Basic.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> Mobile: 01683572206
> Email: soleilpqd at ...626... / soleilpqd at ...2488...
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Mon Sep 20 15:26:14 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:26:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Help about use table view editing with Return key
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Ua063aoVmXg3gtZWZB=MA4HWNHxYjuNU8vJws@...627...>
References: <AANLkTi=awMSwJefPNnr=NTi-SyAZnjDMkD5KMsXuLB31@...627...>
	<201009191748.18799.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTi=Ua063aoVmXg3gtZWZB=MA4HWNHxYjuNU8vJws@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikVXjczUTEop+4oJoYqaprsQ8sa=+v7AF=w8NAo@...627...>

un tarball c'est bien :)

tar.gz ou tar.bz

2010/9/20 Ph?m Quang D??ng <soleilpqd at ...626...>:
> OK, thank, I understood. Switch click and dblClick event code.
>
> .zip, bzip, gzip is fine why not 7zip
> Alors, prochaine fois j'utilise rar >:)
>
>
> 2010/9/19 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I created a TableView with three columns.
>> > First, I wrote code so that when user double-click the cell at third
>> column
>> > on a row, the cell start the editing. My program worked fine.
>> > Then I added code so that when the user click the cell at the first
>> column
>> > on a row, this row would be removed. The removing worked fine. But with
>> the
>> > editing, when I pressed Enter (Return) key to finish the editing, some
>> rows
>> > were removed.
>> >
>> > I can't find where I'm wrong. Please help, thank you!
>>
>> The more important question: Why are you using 7zip ? :-)
>>
>> TableView is designed so that editing is started on click. So, using the
>> arrow
>> keys or the Enter keys makes the TableView moves the current cell
>> automatically and raise Click events.
>>
>> If you want another behaviour (like editing on double-click but remove on
>> click), then I think you should write your own TableView.
>>
>> Yet again, DblClick is a low-level event, and Click is not, and it is not
>> necessarily comes from a low-level mouse event. The name "Click" is badly
>> chosen, it comes from Visual Basic.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Ph?m Quang D??ng
> Mobile: 01683572206
> Email: soleilpqd at ...626... / soleilpqd at ...2488...
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



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From bill-lancaster at ...2231...  Mon Sep 20 17:34:59 2010
From: bill-lancaster at ...2231... (Bill-Lancaster)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:34:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] SQLTE3 >date function
In-Reply-To: <201009191751.06587.gambas@...1...>
References: <29751718.post@...1379...>
	<201009191751.06587.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <29760629.post@...1379...>


Dear Beno?t,

Please see attached - Ive not done this before, hope it works

Bill Lancaster http://old.nabble.com/file/p29760629/demo demo 
http://old.nabble.com/file/p29760629/FMain.class FMain.class 
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From ron at ...1740...  Mon Sep 20 19:46:03 2010
From: ron at ...1740... (Ron)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:46:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Twitter oauth client?
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=0JpXFtZT0AQv39v=-xvBvGoPv_j3vC1Y0=ZBx@...627...>

Hi,

did anyone happen to code a twitter client (cli or gui) in gambas using
oauth?

Regards,
Ron.


From jshackney at ...626...  Tue Sep 21 03:25:03 2010
From: jshackney at ...626... (Jason Hackney)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:25:03 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error after project is compiled
Message-ID: <AANLkTinEf6Zh_mKSdfAEJUxoFhsOvG3St_dA5jhegfs5@...627...>

OK, I think this is a problem with my setup or the OS, but I need help
finding the source.

I just downloaded build 3230. It's installed and running fine. When I open
my project in the IDE and run it, it runs well and exits normally. When I
navigate to PROJECT -> MAKE -> EXECUTABLE, everything seems to compile fine.
Then, when I run the file, I get:

$ ./jiggler.gambas
ERROR: #2: Cannot load class 'FJiggler': Unable to load class file
0: ?

Anybody have an idea what the problem is? I've actually been seeing it for a
while and thought it had something to do with Gambas, but since I've
upgraded Gambas, the problem hasn't gone away. Also, I did check
permissions, there doesn't seem to be anything amiss with file/directory
permissions. Nothing obvious, anyway.

The OS is crunchbang linux on a netbook.
/etc/lsb-release says Ubuntu 9.04


From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 21 03:30:31 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:30:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error after project is compiled
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinEf6Zh_mKSdfAEJUxoFhsOvG3St_dA5jhegfs5@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinEf6Zh_mKSdfAEJUxoFhsOvG3St_dA5jhegfs5@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009210330.31677.gambas@...1...>

> OK, I think this is a problem with my setup or the OS, but I need help
> finding the source.
> 
> I just downloaded build 3230. It's installed and running fine. When I open
> my project in the IDE and run it, it runs well and exits normally. When I
> navigate to PROJECT -> MAKE -> EXECUTABLE, everything seems to compile
> fine. Then, when I run the file, I get:
> 
> $ ./jiggler.gambas
> ERROR: #2: Cannot load class 'FJiggler': Unable to load class file
> 0: ?
> 
> Anybody have an idea what the problem is? I've actually been seeing it for
> a while and thought it had something to do with Gambas, but since I've
> upgraded Gambas, the problem hasn't gone away. Also, I did check
> permissions, there doesn't seem to be anything amiss with file/directory
> permissions. Nothing obvious, anyway.
> 
> The OS is crunchbang linux on a netbook.
> /etc/lsb-release says Ubuntu 9.04

Send your project.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From frederic.176 at ...626...  Tue Sep 21 03:52:02 2010
From: frederic.176 at ...626... (Federico Leite)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:52:02 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?iso-8859-1?q?I_cant_compile_Gambas=3A_problem_wit?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?h_=BFOpenGL=3F?=
Message-ID: <AANLkTinXBZvO82r=DsEk1pc5wEaLizHAy7LUfLtY2fBh@...627...>

The output...

make[5]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
make[4]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
make[3]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
make[3]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
make[3]: No se hace nada para `install-exec-am'.
make[3]: No se hace nada para `install-data-am'.
make[3]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
make[1]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
Making install in gb.gtk
make[1]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk'
Making install in src
make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
Making install in opengl
make[3]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
make[4]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
make[4]: No se hace nada para `install-exec-am'.
test -z "/usr/local/lib/gambas3" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/local/lib/gambas3"
 /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 gb.gtk.opengl.component '/usr/local/lib/gambas3'
test -z "/usr/local/lib/gambas3" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/local/lib/gambas3"
 /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 gb.gtk.opengl.component '/usr/local/lib/gambas3'
test -z "/usr/local/lib/gambas3" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/local/lib/gambas3"
 /bin/bash ../../libtool   --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c
gb.gtk.opengl.la '/usr/local/lib/gambas3'
libtool: install: /usr/bin/install -c .libs/gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0
/usr/local/lib/gambas3/gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0
libtool: install: (cd /usr/local/lib/gambas3 && { ln -s -f
gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so.0 || { rm -f gb.gtk.opengl.so.0 &&
ln -s gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so.0; }; })
libtool: install: (cd /usr/local/lib/gambas3 && { ln -s -f
gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so || { rm -f gb.gtk.opengl.so && ln -s
gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so; }; })
libtool: install: /usr/bin/install -c .libs/gb.gtk.opengl.lai
/usr/local/lib/gambas3/gb.gtk.opengl.la
/usr/bin/install: cannot stat `.libs/gb.gtk.opengl.lai': No such file or
directory
make[4]: *** [install-gblibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1
make[4]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2
make[3]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
make[2]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk'
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1



-- 
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##############################################
Areida Developer


From jshackney at ...626...  Tue Sep 21 03:57:01 2010
From: jshackney at ...626... (Jason Hackney)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:57:01 -0400
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error after project is compiled
In-Reply-To: <201009210330.31677.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTinEf6Zh_mKSdfAEJUxoFhsOvG3St_dA5jhegfs5@...627...>
	<201009210330.31677.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinGP9AtnUSv6PSJhz6n=XQHx300FxKB=J_wrkts@...627...>

2010/9/20 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
...

> Send your project.
>
>
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From mohareve at ...626...  Tue Sep 21 11:08:58 2010
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:08:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] OpenSuse 11.3 + Gambas2.21 + MP3 playback
Message-ID: <AANLkTikdHc6Hn45ccdY9m3wOt+6NAxRx=yxB+hCh47hY@...627...>

Hello everybody,

I know that openSUSE violates the packaging convention, but did anybody
managed to get the MP3 files play within a gambas2 application?
I've installed libmikmod, as gambas2 could not find it after basic
installation, and I know that there is no gambas2-gb-sdl-sound library for
openSuse. Is there any workaround?

Thanks!


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Tue Sep 21 20:53:39 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:53:39 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3 difficulties
Message-ID: <AANLkTimEhQDJEnu3UpzQ=DhHKoJ-rP3o-sBvKCe_nFG-@...627...>

Hi!
I just noticed some behaviour of message.question.
If you hit ESC or close it (x), it answers always last button index.
Example message.question("?","a","b") would answer 2.
Nothing wrong with that, I just wasn't aware of it, and now I have to change
those all.
But replace feature doesn't work globally anymore, in this case it is
annoying!
Also I liked old search feature, that was when you selected part of text and
clicked search symbol
text was already copied to search field. It was convenient.
Is it possible to have Gambas2 style search feature as optional?

Minor bug report (Gambas3 rev 3230 @Ubuntu 10.04 64bit):
With Qt4, Message.Question("?", "1", "2", "3"), yields window where button
order is 2, 3, 1.
But with GTK+ it has button order 1, 2, 3.

Jussi


From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Tue Sep 21 21:32:05 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:32:05 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug with Gambas3 search window
Message-ID: <AANLkTinb18ToiL14u05eUMaSvzkgXuOuvoxC4b3xvvPX@...627...>

Way to reproduce bug.

1. Open any project.
2. Write line that has no other instance in that project.
3. Search that line with browse feature.
4. Delete that line.
5. Move search window.

Result, IDE crashes:
"
This application has raised as unexpected error and must abort.
[21] Out of bounds
FSearch.gvwFind_Data.808
"

Perhaps sub "gvwFind_Data", should start with "If $aBrowse.Count = 0 Then
Return".

Gambas3 rev 3230 @Ubuntu 10.04.

Jussi


From bill-lancaster at ...2231...  Wed Sep 22 09:05:36 2010
From: bill-lancaster at ...2231... (Bill-Lancaster)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 00:05:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] SQLTE3 >date function
In-Reply-To: <29760629.post@...1379...>
References: <29751718.post@...1379...>
	<201009191751.06587.gambas@...1...>
	<29760629.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <29776806.post@...1379...>


I don't think the test programme arrived!

Anyway, I have found that using the SQLitte3 DATE function solves the
problem, so:-

AND DATE(TransDate) >= '2009-07-01' produces the correct result.

Thanks
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From sotema at ...626...  Wed Sep 22 14:55:58 2010
From: sotema at ...626... (emanuele sottocorno)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:55:58 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 desktop.sendmail cause application hang
Message-ID: <AANLkTinMtJseDPtpEyeMJsCFg642HrJWDNkyVBrw-Nfw@...627...>

Sending a mail with destktop.sendmail cause the main form of application
become inactive, when the Mail Client window closes the Gambas Form never
return active and the application hangs.
This happens only the first time you send a mail.
Stopping the application (via stop button on the IDE) and restarting it all
goes fine. Maybe the problem is how long the mail client takes to start.
Attached a little application to test.
Gb3 rev 3232
OS Ubuntu 10.04
QT4/Gtk (not library related)

Regards
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From soleilpqd at ...626...  Wed Sep 22 16:11:05 2010
From: soleilpqd at ...626... (=?UTF-8?B?UGjhuqFtIFF1YW5nIETGsMahbmc=?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:11:05 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to open a form in modal mode?
Message-ID: <AANLkTinjF+OZMQf0K292FqCKUy65t48Ugzpwfzf1v3yu@...627...>

I know that this question is basic. But when I try this from Form1

Form2.OpenDialog()

or

Form2.OpenModal()

Some controls on Form2 doesn't work properly, e.g I can input "abc" text
into value box; the text box doesn't raise the key pressed event, the side
pane can be hidden by the arrow button but can not be resized with mouse
dragging, can not select bookmark item on the file chooser ...

I think I'm wrong some where. So what is the right way?
Gambas 2.21 (installed from source), Fedora 13  (Gnome)


From soleilpqd at ...626...  Wed Sep 22 16:29:59 2010
From: soleilpqd at ...626... (=?UTF-8?B?UGjhuqFtIFF1YW5nIETGsMahbmc=?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:29:59 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to open a form in modal mode?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinjF+OZMQf0K292FqCKUy65t48Ugzpwfzf1v3yu@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinjF+OZMQf0K292FqCKUy65t48Ugzpwfzf1v3yu@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim=7h2SBOfOgFdC4R61N=4zc6G80g4m1o-wN0TG@...627...>

Huh, one more thing, is there a way to autoresize the button with its
caption?


From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 22 18:22:09 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:22:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug with Gambas3 search window
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinb18ToiL14u05eUMaSvzkgXuOuvoxC4b3xvvPX@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinb18ToiL14u05eUMaSvzkgXuOuvoxC4b3xvvPX@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009221822.09887.gambas@...1...>

> Way to reproduce bug.
> 
> 1. Open any project.
> 2. Write line that has no other instance in that project.
> 3. Search that line with browse feature.
> 4. Delete that line.
> 5. Move search window.
> 
> Result, IDE crashes:
> "
> This application has raised as unexpected error and must abort.
> [21] Out of bounds
> FSearch.gvwFind_Data.808
> "
> 
> Perhaps sub "gvwFind_Data", should start with "If $aBrowse.Count = 0 Then
> Return".
> 
> Gambas3 rev 3230 @Ubuntu 10.04.
> 
> Jussi

Did you try with the latest revision?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 22 18:23:52 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:23:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] SQLTE3 >date function
In-Reply-To: <29776806.post@...1379...>
References: <29751718.post@...1379...> <29760629.post@...1379...>
	<29776806.post@...1379...>
Message-ID: <201009221823.52901.gambas@...1...>

> I don't think the test programme arrived!
> 
> Anyway, I have found that using the SQLitte3 DATE function solves the
> problem, so:-
> 
> AND DATE(TransDate) >= '2009-07-01' produces the correct result.
> 
> Thanks

I'm thinking: contrary to other database systems, sqlite fields are not typed, 
they can contain any data. So when you compare a field to a date (without 
using the DATE function), how does it behave?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep 22 18:54:03 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:54:03 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to open a form in modal mode?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinjF+OZMQf0K292FqCKUy65t48Ugzpwfzf1v3yu@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinjF+OZMQf0K292FqCKUy65t48Ugzpwfzf1v3yu@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=dP6C1aaAbj5nk+seSezGYw5UXFU4cG52Cb6YC@...627...>

Never seen that problem... can you send project source to demonstrate this
problem?

Jussi


2010/9/22 Ph?m Quang D??ng <soleilpqd at ...626...>

> I know that this question is basic. But when I try this from Form1
>
> Form2.OpenDialog()
>
> or
>
> Form2.OpenModal()
>
> Some controls on Form2 doesn't work properly, e.g I can input "abc" text
> into value box; the text box doesn't raise the key pressed event, the side
> pane can be hidden by the arrow button but can not be resized with mouse
> dragging, can not select bookmark item on the file chooser ...
>
> I think I'm wrong some where. So what is the right way?
> Gambas 2.21 (installed from source), Fedora 13  (Gnome)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


From jose2190 at ...626...  Wed Sep 22 18:58:10 2010
From: jose2190 at ...626... (jose)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:58:10 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to open a form in modal mode?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=dP6C1aaAbj5nk+seSezGYw5UXFU4cG52Cb6YC@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinjF+OZMQf0K292FqCKUy65t48Ugzpwfzf1v3yu@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=dP6C1aaAbj5nk+seSezGYw5UXFU4cG52Cb6YC@...627...>
Message-ID: <1285174690.1870.0.camel@...2461...>

El mi?, 22-09-2010 a las 19:54 +0300, Jussi Lahtinen escribi?:
> Never seen that problem... can you send project source to demonstrate this
> problem?
> 
> Jussi
> 
> 
> 2010/9/22 Ph?m Quang D??ng <soleilpqd at ...626...>
> 
> > I know that this question is basic. But when I try this from Form1
> >
> > Form2.OpenDialog()
> >
> > or
> >
> > Form2.OpenModal()
> >
> > Some controls on Form2 doesn't work properly, e.g I can input "abc" text
> > into value box; the text box doesn't raise the key pressed event, the side
> > pane can be hidden by the arrow button but can not be resized with mouse
> > dragging, can not select bookmark item on the file chooser ...
> >
> > I think I'm wrong some where. So what is the right way?
> > Gambas 2.21 (installed from source), Fedora 13  (Gnome)
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user


Try, 

youform.showmodal()




From math.eber at ...221...  Wed Sep 22 19:26:38 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:26:38 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 desktop.sendmail cause application hang
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinMtJseDPtpEyeMJsCFg642HrJWDNkyVBrw-Nfw@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinMtJseDPtpEyeMJsCFg642HrJWDNkyVBrw-Nfw@...627...>
Message-ID: <4C9A3C4E.2060406@...221...>

Works perfect here, the app gets the focus back and nothing hangs.
Maybe it depends on the mail client?
gb3, rev 3230
OpenSuse 11.2
Thunderbird 3.05

Regards
Matti



Am 22.09.2010 14:55, schrieb emanuele sottocorno:
> Sending a mail with destktop.sendmail cause the main form of application
> become inactive, when the Mail Client window closes the Gambas Form never
> return active and the application hangs.
> This happens only the first time you send a mail.
> Stopping the application (via stop button on the IDE) and restarting it all
> goes fine. Maybe the problem is how long the mail client takes to start.
> Attached a little application to test.
> Gb3 rev 3232
> OS Ubuntu 10.04
> QT4/Gtk (not library related)
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Wed Sep 22 19:33:15 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:33:15 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Bug with Gambas3 search window
In-Reply-To: <201009221822.09887.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTinb18ToiL14u05eUMaSvzkgXuOuvoxC4b3xvvPX@...627...>
	<201009221822.09887.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=NxDpcyCowNKHzfmAj8ksZx2Ne_C==siAUJKV0@...627...>

I didn't notice that there is new revision.
Today I tested rev 3233, and it worked correctly.
Thanks!

Jussi


2010/9/22 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>

> > Way to reproduce bug.
> >
> > 1. Open any project.
> > 2. Write line that has no other instance in that project.
> > 3. Search that line with browse feature.
> > 4. Delete that line.
> > 5. Move search window.
> >
> > Result, IDE crashes:
> > "
> > This application has raised as unexpected error and must abort.
> > [21] Out of bounds
> > FSearch.gvwFind_Data.808
> > "
> >
> > Perhaps sub "gvwFind_Data", should start with "If $aBrowse.Count = 0 Then
> > Return".
> >
> > Gambas3 rev 3230 @Ubuntu 10.04.
> >
> > Jussi
>
> Did you try with the latest revision?
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>


From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 22 19:34:51 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:34:51 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 desktop.sendmail cause application hang
In-Reply-To: <4C9A3C4E.2060406@...221...>
References: <AANLkTinMtJseDPtpEyeMJsCFg642HrJWDNkyVBrw-Nfw@...627...>
	<4C9A3C4E.2060406@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009221934.51493.gambas@...1...>

> Works perfect here, the app gets the focus back and nothing hangs.
> Maybe it depends on the mail client?
> gb3, rev 3230
> OpenSuse 11.2
> Thunderbird 3.05
> 
> Regards
> Matti
> 

Possible. Desktop.SendMail just uses the xdg scripts from freedesktop.org 
(xdg-email there) to run the mail client.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Wed Sep 22 20:42:53 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:42:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to open a form in modal mode?
In-Reply-To: <1285174690.1870.0.camel@...2461...>
References: <AANLkTinjF+OZMQf0K292FqCKUy65t48Ugzpwfzf1v3yu@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=dP6C1aaAbj5nk+seSezGYw5UXFU4cG52Cb6YC@...627...>
	<1285174690.1870.0.camel@...2461...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinweg9iChYkpt8XE9bHU1b9L2v+m6tL8j9BcePG@...627...>

"Huh, one more thing, is there a way to autoresize the button with its
caption?"

in gambas3 set autoresize to true

2010/9/22 jose <jose2190 at ...626...>:
> El mi?, 22-09-2010 a las 19:54 +0300, Jussi Lahtinen escribi?:
>> Never seen that problem... can you send project source to demonstrate this
>> problem?
>>
>> Jussi
>>
>>
>> 2010/9/22 Ph?m Quang D??ng <soleilpqd at ...626...>
>>
>> > I know that this question is basic. But when I try this from Form1
>> >
>> > Form2.OpenDialog()
>> >
>> > or
>> >
>> > Form2.OpenModal()
>> >
>> > Some controls on Form2 doesn't work properly, e.g I can input "abc" text
>> > into value box; the text box doesn't raise the key pressed event, the side
>> > pane can be hidden by the arrow button but can not be resized with mouse
>> > dragging, can not select bookmark item on the file chooser ...
>> >
>> > I think I'm wrong some where. So what is the right way?
>> > Gambas 2.21 (installed from source), Fedora 13 ?(Gnome)
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Gambas-user mailing list
>> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>
>
> Try,
>
> youform.showmodal()
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
Fabien Bodard



From sotema at ...626...  Wed Sep 22 21:07:01 2010
From: sotema at ...626... (Emanuele Sottocorno)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:07:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 desktop.sendmail cause application hang
Message-ID: <1285182421.1596.6.camel@...2476...>

I am investigating on it. 
I have installed a Mandriva spring 2010 (Virtaulbox) without problem. Be
aware that Mandriva (and OpenSuse ) default WM is KDE and Mail Client is
KMail. I noted that Kmail takes a very shorter time to start, rather
then Evolution on Ubuntu. If i have time tomorrow will try with
Thunderbird
Regards,
Emanuele




From gambas at ...1...  Wed Sep 22 21:08:36 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:08:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3 desktop.sendmail cause application hang
In-Reply-To: <1285182421.1596.6.camel@...2476...>
References: <1285182421.1596.6.camel@...2476...>
Message-ID: <201009222108.36921.gambas@...1...>

> I am investigating on it.
> I have installed a Mandriva spring 2010 (Virtaulbox) without problem. Be
> aware that Mandriva (and OpenSuse ) default WM is KDE and Mail Client is
> KMail. I noted that Kmail takes a very shorter time to start, rather
> then Evolution on Ubuntu. If i have time tomorrow will try with
> Thunderbird
> Regards,
> Emanuele
> 

Try to run "xdg-email" by hand too.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From rterry at ...1946...  Thu Sep 23 00:35:55 2010
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:35:55 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Revision 3233 editor comment
Message-ID: <201009230835.55922.rterry@...1946...>

Hi Benoit

To others on the list - Benoit has kindly put a quick search key on the drop 
down list of subroutines - his any letter and it will jump to those routines..

Cool... thanks.

Noticed also that when in split pane mode you've made the side with focus 
white and that without gray - can you make this configurable as I find this 
distracting as I tend to use both sides at once like a single page.

Thanks

Richard



From sotema at ...626...  Thu Sep 23 17:26:49 2010
From: sotema at ...626... (emanuele sottocorno)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:26:49 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] desktop.sendmail cause application hang
Message-ID: <AANLkTiky3LAbF3APT5uNx7vSDyMwtWOeYrPRYX1xYMYi@...627...>

Tanks Beno?t,
as you suggested i made a process with SHELL to send the mail using
xdg-email.
Seems the Gambas form does not freeze anymore.
After that i turned back using desktop.sendmail and the form freeze again.
I'll investigate further, will update.
Regards,
Emanuele


From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 23 17:29:56 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:29:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] desktop.sendmail cause application hang
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiky3LAbF3APT5uNx7vSDyMwtWOeYrPRYX1xYMYi@...627...>
References: <AANLkTiky3LAbF3APT5uNx7vSDyMwtWOeYrPRYX1xYMYi@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009231729.56976.gambas@...1...>

> Tanks Beno?t,
> as you suggested i made a process with SHELL to send the mail using
> xdg-email.
> Seems the Gambas form does not freeze anymore.
> After that i turned back using desktop.sendmail and the form freeze again.
> I'll investigate further, will update.
> Regards,
> Emanuele

So that means there is something in the way Gambas uses xdg-email...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Thu Sep 23 20:10:28 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:10:28 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextLabel vs TextEdit
Message-ID: <4C9B9814.1020904@...221...>

Gambas3
If I understand the dokumentation right, TextLabel and TextEdit should both
display rich-text.

I want to display a list of file properties that come from a SHELL command.

If I use a TextLabel, it looks fine:
File Name	004.jpg
File Size	5.0 MB
...

But if I use TextEdit (would be more comfortable because of scrollbars), I get:
<tr><td>File Name</td><td>004.jpg</td></tr>
<tr><td>File Size</td><td>5.0 MB</td></tr>
...
which is not nice to read.

Bug or feature, or my misunderstanding?
Regards
Matti



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 23 21:36:08 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:36:08 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextLabel vs TextEdit
In-Reply-To: <4C9B9814.1020904@...221...>
References: <4C9B9814.1020904@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009232136.08274.gambas@...1...>

> Gambas3
> If I understand the dokumentation right, TextLabel and TextEdit should both
> display rich-text.
> 
> I want to display a list of file properties that come from a SHELL command.
> 
> If I use a TextLabel, it looks fine:
> File Name	004.jpg
> File Size	5.0 MB
> ...
> 
> But if I use TextEdit (would be more comfortable because of scrollbars), I
> get: <tr><td>File Name</td><td>004.jpg</td></tr>
> <tr><td>File Size</td><td>5.0 MB</td></tr>
> ...
> which is not nice to read.
> 
> Bug or feature, or my misunderstanding?
> Regards
> Matti
> 

Qt 4 has some support for tables in rich text. But it is not supported by 
Gambas. See the wiki documentation about rich text to know which tags are 
supported.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Thu Sep 23 21:55:57 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:55:57 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextLabel vs TextEdit
In-Reply-To: <201009232136.08274.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C9B9814.1020904@...221...>
	<201009232136.08274.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C9BB0CD.7030801@...221...>

But TextLabel does display tables correctly.
So, Gambas does support tables in rich text.
Why not TextEdit?


Am 23.09.2010 21:36, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> Qt 4 has some support for tables in rich text. But it is not supported by 
> Gambas. See the wiki documentation about rich text to know which tags are 
> supported.
> 
> Regards,
> 



From gambas at ...1...  Thu Sep 23 22:00:32 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:00:32 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextLabel vs TextEdit
In-Reply-To: <4C9BB0CD.7030801@...221...>
References: <4C9B9814.1020904@...221...>
	<201009232136.08274.gambas@...1...>
	<4C9BB0CD.7030801@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009232200.32066.gambas@...1...>

> But TextLabel does display tables correctly.
> So, Gambas does support tables in rich text.
> Why not TextEdit?
> 

No, Gambas does not support them. But I can't prevent Qt4 from supporting 
them.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Thu Sep 23 22:10:52 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:10:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] TextLabel vs TextEdit
In-Reply-To: <201009232200.32066.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C9B9814.1020904@...221...>	<201009232136.08274.gambas@...1...>	<4C9BB0CD.7030801@...221...>
	<201009232200.32066.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C9BB44C.8060006@...221...>

ok, thanks, that's too low-level for me.


Am 23.09.2010 22:00, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> No, Gambas does not support them. But I can't prevent Qt4 from supporting 
> them.
> 



From rterry at ...1946...  Fri Sep 24 06:08:51 2010
From: rterry at ...1946... (richard terry)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:08:51 +1000
Subject: [Gambas-user] Benoit - thanks the filter is fantastic
Message-ID: <201009241408.51851.rterry@...1946...>

HI Benoit,

Only just noticed you'd implemented the form filter I requested on the code 
tree - used it today for the first time.

Fantastic!!!

Can't tell you how much easier that makes it to work on the code tree.

REgards

Richard



From gambas at ...1...  Fri Sep 24 10:35:06 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:35:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Benoit - thanks the filter is fantastic
In-Reply-To: <201009241408.51851.rterry@...1946...>
References: <201009241408.51851.rterry@...1946...>
Message-ID: <201009241035.06975.gambas@...1...>

> HI Benoit,
> 
> Only just noticed you'd implemented the form filter I requested on the code
> tree - used it today for the first time.
> 
> Fantastic!!!
> 
> Can't tell you how much easier that makes it to work on the code tree.
> 
> REgards
> 
> Richard
> 

I thought you have noticed before!

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Fri Sep 24 10:55:30 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:55:30 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Benoit - thanks the filter is fantastic
In-Reply-To: <201009241035.06975.gambas@...1...>
References: <201009241408.51851.rterry@...1946...>
	<201009241035.06975.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikA4=_U3k3BUC2oZwG37qnC3mqM4OZEa__2qAqX@...627...>

yes especially since it was you who claimed it. Benoit is perfect, it
works as hoped, as kopete:)


Le 24 septembre 2010 10:35, Beno?t Minisini
<gambas at ...1...> a ?crit :
>> HI Benoit,
>>
>> Only just noticed you'd implemented the form filter I requested on the code
>> tree - used it today for the first time.
>>
>> Fantastic!!!
>>
>> Can't tell you how much easier that makes it to work on the code tree.
>>
>> REgards
>>
>> Richard
>>
>
> I thought you have noticed before!
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
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From lord.quo at ...626...  Fri Sep 24 17:25:50 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:25:50 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Compiling gambas3
Message-ID: <000001cb5bfc$c6690a50$533b1ef0$@gmail.com>

	If I download the last revision of gambas3 and I compile and install
it, I need to uninstall previous version or it is overwrited?

	My previous version is gambas3 too.

	Regards.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Fabien Bodard [mailto:gambas.fr at ...626...] 
Enviado el: Viernes, 24 de Septiembre de 2010 03:56 a.m.
Para: mailing list for gambas users
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Benoit - thanks the filter is fantastic

yes especially since it was you who claimed it. Benoit is perfect, it works
as hoped, as kopete:)


Le 24 septembre 2010 10:35, Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...> a
?crit :
>> HI Benoit,
>>
>> Only just noticed you'd implemented the form filter I requested on 
>> the code tree - used it today for the first time.
>>
>> Fantastic!!!
>>
>> Can't tell you how much easier that makes it to work on the code tree.
>>
>> REgards
>>
>> Richard
>>
>
> I thought you have noticed before!
>
> --
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From wdahn at ...1000...  Fri Sep 24 18:37:55 2010
From: wdahn at ...1000... (Werner)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 00:37:55 +0800
Subject: [Gambas-user] Compiling gambas3
In-Reply-To: <000001cb5bfc$c6690a50$533b1ef0$@gmail.com>
References: <000001cb5bfc$c6690a50$533b1ef0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C9CD3E3.6060703@...1000...>

On 24/09/10 23:25, Lord Quo wrote:
> 	If I download the last revision of gambas3 and I compile and install
> it, I need to uninstall previous version or it is overwrited?
>
> 	My previous version is gambas3 too.
>
> 	Regards.
>   
If you compiled gambas2 as well it should be ok to have them side by
side. You can invoke them in a terminal with either gambas2 or gambas3.

Regards
Werner




From lord.quo at ...626...  Fri Sep 24 19:07:16 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:07:16 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Compiling gambas3
In-Reply-To: <4C9CD3E3.6060703@...1000...>
References: <000001cb5bfc$c6690a50$533b1ef0$@gmail.com>
	<4C9CD3E3.6060703@...1000...>
Message-ID: <000201cb5c0a$f264c5f0$d72e51d0$@gmail.com>

	Thanks, but I actually have installed gambas3 revision 31xx, and I
want to install new revision of gambas3, 3239.

	Regards.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Werner [mailto:wdahn at ...1000...] 
Enviado el: Viernes, 24 de Septiembre de 2010 11:38 a.m.
Para: mailing list for gambas users
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Compiling gambas3

On 24/09/10 23:25, Lord Quo wrote:
> 	If I download the last revision of gambas3 and I compile and install

> it, I need to uninstall previous version or it is overwrited?
>
> 	My previous version is gambas3 too.
>
> 	Regards.
>   
If you compiled gambas2 as well it should be ok to have them side by side.
You can invoke them in a terminal with either gambas2 or gambas3.

Regards
Werner


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From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Fri Sep 24 19:25:20 2010
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (EA7DFH)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:25:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Code Snippets Utility
Message-ID: <4C9CDF00.5030108@...2382...>

Hi all

What's is the way to insert a code snippet triggered from an string in
Gambas3?

I'm referring to the third tab in the Preferences dialog of the IDE. I
am unable to get the (template) snippet into the code editor...

Using latest Gambas3 SVN.

Thanks
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From math.eber at ...221...  Fri Sep 24 23:00:26 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:00:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3.settings
Message-ID: <4C9D116A.7030000@...221...>

All settings seem to be stored in a file
/home/username/.config/gambas3/ApplicationName.conf.
But, if I have projects with the same file name in different locations, like
/home/username/Gambas/test and
/home/username/Basic/test,
the settings are stored in the same file /home/username/.config/gambas3/test.conf.
There is no difference about the directories.
This causes errors.

To me, it seems better to store the application's settings in the application
directory.

Regards
Matti




From soleilpqd at ...626...  Fri Sep 24 23:57:53 2010
From: soleilpqd at ...626... (=?UTF-8?B?UGjhuqFtIFF1YW5nIETGsMahbmc=?=)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 04:57:53 +0700
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to open a form in modal mode?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinweg9iChYkpt8XE9bHU1b9L2v+m6tL8j9BcePG@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinjF+OZMQf0K292FqCKUy65t48Ugzpwfzf1v3yu@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=dP6C1aaAbj5nk+seSezGYw5UXFU4cG52Cb6YC@...627...>
	<1285174690.1870.0.camel@...2461...>
	<AANLkTinweg9iChYkpt8XE9bHU1b9L2v+m6tL8j9BcePG@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik76C8Yh2-dpxKTuefrXTy-O06RhFkstECMig1b@...627...>

Thank for your response. I just started the project with form design, not
code yet.
I tried run on a Live Fedora 13 and still got the problem. But on Linux
Mint, no problem happened. So I think the problem is caused by Fedora.
And I remember that Fedora is a distro of the latest, so I upgrage to
Gambas3, no more problem.
But can I re-use my old Gambas2 projects (of course with some change) or
have I to create new Gambas3 project and re-write everything ?


From lord.quo at ...626...  Sat Sep 25 01:55:19 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:55:19 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE :: A proposition to visual optimization
Message-ID: <001101cb5c43$f2ce9460$d86bbd20$@gmail.com>

	Hi Benoit.

	When I'm in the IDE and I enter code for a procedure that uses
several arguments, the miniwindow that appears with help in how to enter the
arguments (Intellitips?) don't let me see the complete arguments. The help
shows only one line and the second line is truncatd. I know that my english
is poor, so, let me explain with the attached image.

	Regards.

Daniel Rojas
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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 25 02:04:07 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 02:04:07 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Code Snippets Utility
In-Reply-To: <4C9CDF00.5030108@...2382...>
References: <4C9CDF00.5030108@...2382...>
Message-ID: <201009250204.07507.gambas@...1...>

> Hi all
> 
> What's is the way to insert a code snippet triggered from an string in
> Gambas3?
> 
> I'm referring to the third tab in the Preferences dialog of the IDE. I
> am unable to get the (template) snippet into the code editor...
> 
> Using latest Gambas3 SVN.
> 
> Thanks

You type the first letters of the snippet (one, two or three characters, 
depending on the snippet), and then you press TAB.

They work almost like in gedit.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Sat Sep 25 11:48:09 2010
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (EA7DFH)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:48:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Code Snippets Utility
In-Reply-To: <201009250204.07507.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C9CDF00.5030108@...2382...>
	<201009250204.07507.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C9DC559.1030705@...2382...>

El 25/09/10 02:04, Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
>> Hi all
>>
>> What's is the way to insert a code snippet triggered from an string in
>> Gambas3?
>>
>> I'm referring to the third tab in the Preferences dialog of the IDE. I
>> am unable to get the (template) snippet into the code editor...
>>
>> Using latest Gambas3 SVN.
>>
>> Thanks
> 
> You type the first letters of the snippet (one, two or three characters, 
> depending on the snippet), and then you press TAB.
> 
> They work almost like in gedit.
> 
> Regards,
> 

Oops, I must figured it out! Very helpful.

Thanks, Beno?t

-- 
Jesus, EA7DFH



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Sep 25 13:05:19 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:05:19 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3.settings
In-Reply-To: <4C9D116A.7030000@...221...>
References: <4C9D116A.7030000@...221...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimcU0=rMi0=dsQRxH+a_4mCCohctTg6HDGcA09a@...627...>

2010/9/24 Matti <math.eber at ...221...>:
> All settings seem to be stored in a file
> /home/username/.config/gambas3/ApplicationName.conf.
> But, if I have projects with the same file name in different locations, like
> /home/username/Gambas/test and
> /home/username/Basic/test,
> the settings are stored in the same file /home/username/.config/gambas3/test.conf.
> There is no difference about the directories.
> This causes errors.
>
> To me, it seems better to store the application's settings in the application
> directory.
Not on linux as generally the application are in the /usr/bin
directory, where it is forbidden to put any configuration file .
Plus , i don't understand the need to hae twice time the same app in
different path ... An app need to have a unique name...
 /home/username/Gambas/testv1 and
 /home/username/Basic/testv2

Where testv2 is the next generation of testv1. But to have twice the
same app on the same pc... is not usefull... Linux is not windows. If
you want to call an app like it is in the needed path then prefer to
use a symbolic link

ln -s /home/username/Gambas/test /home/username/Basic/test



>
> Regards
> Matti
>
>
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> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Sep 25 13:08:31 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:08:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] How to open a form in modal mode?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik76C8Yh2-dpxKTuefrXTy-O06RhFkstECMig1b@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinjF+OZMQf0K292FqCKUy65t48Ugzpwfzf1v3yu@...627...>
	<AANLkTi=dP6C1aaAbj5nk+seSezGYw5UXFU4cG52Cb6YC@...627...>
	<1285174690.1870.0.camel@...2461...>
	<AANLkTinweg9iChYkpt8XE9bHU1b9L2v+m6tL8j9BcePG@...627...>
	<AANLkTik76C8Yh2-dpxKTuefrXTy-O06RhFkstECMig1b@...627...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimQUe-BG4QRfT88fg5z4vvqJ5k-8odWtckMt3Nc@...627...>

Normally gb3 will have tool to simplify the port from gb2. I think you
need to wait a little bit before gb3 tool are ready . I think soon gb2
will not be usable on recent system as they are changing too
quickly...



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Sep 25 13:14:33 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:14:33 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Compiling gambas3
In-Reply-To: <000201cb5c0a$f264c5f0$d72e51d0$@gmail.com>
References: <000001cb5bfc$c6690a50$533b1ef0$@gmail.com>
	<4C9CD3E3.6060703@...1000...>
	<000201cb5c0a$f264c5f0$d72e51d0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Qupjbv95Nrik=+=6HpinK2eqhW0B-RozU72Dz@...627...>

it is overwritted

2010/9/24 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
> ? ? ? ?Thanks, but I actually have installed gambas3 revision 31xx, and I
> want to install new revision of gambas3, 3239.
>
> ? ? ? ?Regards.
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Werner [mailto:wdahn at ...1000...]
> Enviado el: Viernes, 24 de Septiembre de 2010 11:38 a.m.
> Para: mailing list for gambas users
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Compiling gambas3
>
> On 24/09/10 23:25, Lord Quo wrote:
>> ? ? ? If I download the last revision of gambas3 and I compile and install
>
>> it, I need to uninstall previous version or it is overwrited?
>>
>> ? ? ? My previous version is gambas3 too.
>>
>> ? ? ? Regards.
>>
> If you compiled gambas2 as well it should be ok to have them side by side.
> You can invoke them in a terminal with either gambas2 or gambas3.
>
> Regards
> Werner
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using
> them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud
> computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
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>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>



-- 
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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 25 17:30:37 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:30:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE :: A proposition to visual optimization
In-Reply-To: <001101cb5c43$f2ce9460$d86bbd20$@gmail.com>
References: <001101cb5c43$f2ce9460$d86bbd20$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201009251730.37691.gambas@...1...>

> 	Hi Benoit.
> 
> 	When I'm in the IDE and I enter code for a procedure that uses
> several arguments, the miniwindow that appears with help in how to enter
> the arguments (Intellitips?) don't let me see the complete arguments. The
> help shows only one line and the second line is truncatd. I know that my
> english is poor, so, let me explain with the attached image.
> 
> 	Regards.
> 
> Daniel Rojas

The bug should be fixed in revision #3240.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 25 17:31:59 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:31:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?utf-8?q?I_cant_compile_Gambas=3A_problem_with_?=
 =?utf-8?b?wr9PcGVuR0w/?=
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinXBZvO82r=DsEk1pc5wEaLizHAy7LUfLtY2fBh@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinXBZvO82r=DsEk1pc5wEaLizHAy7LUfLtY2fBh@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009251731.59437.gambas@...1...>

> The output...
> 
> make[5]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
> make[4]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
> make[3]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
> make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
> make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
> make[3]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
> make[3]: No se hace nada para `install-exec-am'.
> make[3]: No se hace nada para `install-data-am'.
> make[3]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
> make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
> make[1]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
> Making install in gb.gtk
> make[1]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk'
> Making install in src
> make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> Making install in opengl
> make[3]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
> make[4]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
> make[4]: No se hace nada para `install-exec-am'.
> test -z "/usr/local/lib/gambas3" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/local/lib/gambas3"
>  /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 gb.gtk.opengl.component
> '/usr/local/lib/gambas3' test -z "/usr/local/lib/gambas3" || /bin/mkdir -p
> "/usr/local/lib/gambas3" /usr/bin/install -c -m 644
> gb.gtk.opengl.component '/usr/local/lib/gambas3' test -z
> "/usr/local/lib/gambas3" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/local/lib/gambas3"
> /bin/bash ../../libtool   --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c
> gb.gtk.opengl.la '/usr/local/lib/gambas3'
> libtool: install: /usr/bin/install -c .libs/gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0
> /usr/local/lib/gambas3/gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0
> libtool: install: (cd /usr/local/lib/gambas3 && { ln -s -f
> gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so.0 || { rm -f gb.gtk.opengl.so.0 &&
> ln -s gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so.0; }; })
> libtool: install: (cd /usr/local/lib/gambas3 && { ln -s -f
> gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so || { rm -f gb.gtk.opengl.so && ln
> -s gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so; }; })
> libtool: install: /usr/bin/install -c .libs/gb.gtk.opengl.lai
> /usr/local/lib/gambas3/gb.gtk.opengl.la
> /usr/bin/install: cannot stat `.libs/gb.gtk.opengl.lai': No such file or
> directory
> make[4]: *** [install-gblibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1
> make[4]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
> make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2
> make[3]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
> make[2]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk'
> make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

You must provide the full output of the compilation process, as explained on 
the web site, and tell which distribution you are using.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Sat Sep 25 17:33:17 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:33:17 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3.settings
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimcU0=rMi0=dsQRxH+a_4mCCohctTg6HDGcA09a@...627...>
References: <4C9D116A.7030000@...221...>
	<AANLkTimcU0=rMi0=dsQRxH+a_4mCCohctTg6HDGcA09a@...627...>
Message-ID: <4C9E163D.3070900@...221...>

You are right, thanks.

Am 25.09.2010 13:05, schrieb Fabien Bodard:
> 2010/9/24 Matti <math.eber at ...221...>:
>> All settings seem to be stored in a file
>> /home/username/.config/gambas3/ApplicationName.conf.
>> But, if I have projects with the same file name in different locations, like
>> /home/username/Gambas/test and
>> /home/username/Basic/test,
>> the settings are stored in the same file /home/username/.config/gambas3/test.conf.
>> There is no difference about the directories.
>> This causes errors.
>>
>> To me, it seems better to store the application's settings in the application
>> directory.
> Not on linux as generally the application are in the /usr/bin
> directory, where it is forbidden to put any configuration file .
> Plus , i don't understand the need to hae twice time the same app in
> different path ... An app need to have a unique name...
>  /home/username/Gambas/testv1 and
>  /home/username/Basic/testv2
> 
> Where testv2 is the next generation of testv1. But to have twice the
> same app on the same pc... is not usefull... Linux is not windows. If
> you want to call an app like it is in the needed path then prefer to
> use a symbolic link
> 
> ln -s /home/username/Gambas/test /home/username/Basic/test
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Regards
>> Matti
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gambas-user mailing list
>> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>>
> 
> 
> 



From girardhenri at ...402...  Sat Sep 25 18:06:02 2010
From: girardhenri at ...402... (Girard Henri)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:06:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user]
 =?iso-8859-1?q?I_cant_compile_Gambas=3A_problem_wit?=
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I guess it's maverick i got that problem too (and still have !)
Le samedi 25 septembre 2010 ? 17:31 +0200, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > The output...
> > 
> > make[5]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
> > make[4]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
> > make[3]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
> > make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4/src'
> > make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
> > make[3]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
> > make[3]: No se hace nada para `install-exec-am'.
> > make[3]: No se hace nada para `install-data-am'.
> > make[3]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
> > make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
> > make[1]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.qt4'
> > Making install in gb.gtk
> > make[1]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk'
> > Making install in src
> > make[2]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> > Making install in opengl
> > make[3]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
> > make[4]: se ingresa al directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
> > make[4]: No se hace nada para `install-exec-am'.
> > test -z "/usr/local/lib/gambas3" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/local/lib/gambas3"
> >  /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 gb.gtk.opengl.component
> > '/usr/local/lib/gambas3' test -z "/usr/local/lib/gambas3" || /bin/mkdir -p
> > "/usr/local/lib/gambas3" /usr/bin/install -c -m 644
> > gb.gtk.opengl.component '/usr/local/lib/gambas3' test -z
> > "/usr/local/lib/gambas3" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/local/lib/gambas3"
> > /bin/bash ../../libtool   --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c
> > gb.gtk.opengl.la '/usr/local/lib/gambas3'
> > libtool: install: /usr/bin/install -c .libs/gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0
> > /usr/local/lib/gambas3/gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0
> > libtool: install: (cd /usr/local/lib/gambas3 && { ln -s -f
> > gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so.0 || { rm -f gb.gtk.opengl.so.0 &&
> > ln -s gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so.0; }; })
> > libtool: install: (cd /usr/local/lib/gambas3 && { ln -s -f
> > gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so || { rm -f gb.gtk.opengl.so && ln
> > -s gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0 gb.gtk.opengl.so; }; })
> > libtool: install: /usr/bin/install -c .libs/gb.gtk.opengl.lai
> > /usr/local/lib/gambas3/gb.gtk.opengl.la
> > /usr/bin/install: cannot stat `.libs/gb.gtk.opengl.lai': No such file or
> > directory
> > make[4]: *** [install-gblibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1
> > make[4]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
> > make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2
> > make[3]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl'
> > make[2]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> > make[2]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk/src'
> > make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: se sale del directorio `/home/ayortano/trunk/gb.gtk'
> > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> 
> You must provide the full output of the compilation process, as explained on 
> the web site, and tell which distribution you are using.
> 
> Regards,
> 





From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Sep 25 18:11:09 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:11:09 +0200
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fabien at ...2489...:~/gambas/gb.gtk$ ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking for suffix of executables...
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking target system... LINUX
checking target architecture... X86_64
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for g++... g++
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
checking dependency style of g++... gcc3
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... (cached) yes
checking for long double with more range or precision than double... yes
checking for setenv... yes
checking for unsetenv... yes
checking for getdomainname... yes
checking for getpt... yes
checking for cfmakeraw... yes
checking for main in -lgcc_s... yes
checking for main in -lstdc++... yes
checking which extension is used for shared libraries... .so
checking for threading compiler options... -D_REENTRANT
checking for threading linker options... -lpthread
checking for mathematic libraries... -lm
checking for external gettext library...
checking for ccache... no
checking CFLAGS for gcc -fvisibility=hidden... ./configure: line 6201:
ac_cv_cflags_gcc_option__fvisibility_hidden=no, unknown: command not
found
./configure: line 6224:
ac_cv_cflags_gcc_option__fvisibility_hidden=-fvisibility=hidden:
command not found

checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
checking for fgrep... /bin/grep -F
checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for BSD- or MS-compatible name lister (nm)... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking the name lister (/usr/bin/nm -B) interface... BSD nm
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 1572864
checking whether the shell understands some XSI constructs... yes
checking whether the shell understands "+="... yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for objdump... objdump
checking how to recognize dependent libraries... pass_all
checking for ar... ar
checking for strip... strip
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking dependency style of g++... (cached) gcc3
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E
checking for objdir... .libs
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no
checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC -DPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC -DPIC works... yes
checking if gcc static flag -static works... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... (cached) yes
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports
shared libraries... yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking for shl_load... no
checking for shl_load in -ldld... no
checking for dlopen... no
checking for dlopen in -ldl... yes
checking whether a program can dlopen itself... yes
checking whether a statically linked program can dlopen itself... no
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... no
checking for ld used by g++... /usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) is GNU ld... yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports
shared libraries... yes
checking for g++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC -DPIC
checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC -DPIC works... yes
checking if g++ static flag -static works... yes
checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... (cached) yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports
shared libraries... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking for X... libraries , headers
checking for gethostbyname... yes
checking for connect... yes
checking for remove... yes
checking for shmat... yes
checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes
checking for GTK+ toolkit component with pkg-config... OK
checking for GTKglext toolkit component with pkg-config... OK
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating src/Makefile
config.status: creating src/opengl/Makefile
config.status: creating config.h
config.status: config.h is unchanged
config.status: executing depfiles commands
config.status: executing libtool commands
fabien at ...2489...:~/gambas/gb.gtk$



fabien at ...2489...:~/gambas/gb.gtk$ make
make  all-recursive
make[1]: entrant dans le r?pertoire ? /home/fabien/Download/trunk/gb.gtk ?
Making all in src
make[2]: entrant dans le r?pertoire ? /home/fabien/Download/trunk/gb.gtk/src ?
Making all in opengl
make[3]: entrant dans le r?pertoire ?
/home/fabien/Download/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl ?
/bin/bash ../../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I. -I../.. -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo
-I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
-I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12
-I/usr/include/librsvg-2.0   -pthread -I/usr/include/gtkglext-1.0
-I/usr/lib/gtkglext-1.0/include -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
-I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/cairo
-I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0     -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions
-Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os
-fno-omit-frame-pointer  -MT main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/main.Tpo -c -o
main.lo main.cpp
libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -pthread
-I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo
-I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
-I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12
-I/usr/include/librsvg-2.0 -pthread -I/usr/include/gtkglext-1.0
-I/usr/lib/gtkglext-1.0/include -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
-I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/cairo
-I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -pipe -Wall -fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value
-fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g -Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT
main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/main.Tpo -c main.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o
.libs/main.o
mv -f .deps/main.Tpo .deps/main.Plo
/bin/bash ../../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=link g++ -pipe -Wall
-fno-exceptions -Wno-unused-value -fsigned-char -fvisibility=hidden -g
-Os -fno-omit-frame-pointer  -module           -o gb.gtk.opengl.la
-rpath /usr/local/lib/gambas3 main.lo -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0
-latk-1.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lfontconfig
-lrsvg-2 -lgio-2.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0
-lpng12 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lglib-2.0 -lcairo -lfreetype
-lgtkglext-x11-1.0 -lgdkglext-x11-1.0 -lGLU -lGL -lXmu -lXt -lSM -lICE
-lgtk-x11-2.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lX11 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0
-lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lcairo -lpng12
-lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0
-lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lglib-2.0
libtool: link: g++ -shared -nostdlib
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../lib/crti.o
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/crtbeginS.o  .libs/main.o
-lrsvg-2 /usr/lib/libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so
/usr/lib/libgdkglext-x11-1.0.so -lGLU -lGL -lXmu -lXt -lSM -lICE
/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so /usr/lib/libpangox-1.0.so -lX11
/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so
/usr/lib/libgio-2.0.so /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so
/usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 /usr/lib/libcairo.so
-lpng12 /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so /usr/lib/libfreetype.so -lfontconfig
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so
/usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so -lrt /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so
-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5
-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../lib -L//lib/../lib
-L//usr/lib/../lib -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../..
-L//lib -L//usr/lib -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -lstdc++ -lm -lc
-lgcc_s /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/crtendS.o
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/../../../../lib/crtn.o    -pthread
-Wl,-soname -Wl,gb.gtk.opengl.so.0 -o .libs/gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0
libtool: link: (cd ".libs" && rm -f "gb.gtk.opengl.so.0" && ln -s
"gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0" "gb.gtk.opengl.so.0")
libtool: link: (cd ".libs" && rm -f "gb.gtk.opengl.so" && ln -s
"gb.gtk.opengl.so.0.0.0" "gb.gtk.opengl.so")
/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la: No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la' is not a valid libtool archive
make[3]: *** [gb.gtk.opengl.la] Erreur 1
make[3]: quittant le r?pertoire ?
/home/fabien/Download/trunk/gb.gtk/src/opengl ?
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make[2]: quittant le r?pertoire ? /home/fabien/Download/trunk/gb.gtk/src ?
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make[1]: quittant le r?pertoire ? /home/fabien/Download/trunk/gb.gtk ?
make: *** [all] Erreur 2
fabien at ...2489...:~/gambas/gb.gtk$



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 25 18:17:29 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:17:29 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?utf-8?q?I_cant_compile_Gambas=3A_problem_with_?=
 =?utf-8?b?wr9PcGVuR0w/?=
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> fabien at ...2489...:~/gambas/gb.gtk$ ./configure
> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> ...
> checking for main in -lgcc_s... yes
> checking for main in -lstdc++... yes
> checking which extension is used for shared libraries... .so
> checking for threading compiler options... -D_REENTRANT
> checking for threading linker options... -lpthread
> checking for mathematic libraries... -lm
> checking for external gettext library...
> checking for ccache... no
> checking CFLAGS for gcc -fvisibility=hidden... ./configure: line 6201:
> ac_cv_cflags_gcc_option__fvisibility_hidden=no, unknown: command not
> found
> ./configure: line 6224:
> ac_cv_cflags_gcc_option__fvisibility_hidden=-fvisibility=hidden:
> command not found

--> Can I have the generated configure file? @#*! What did Ubuntu guys do 
again???

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Sep 25 18:49:20 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:49:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user]
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mon mail avec configure est bloqu? ...

2010/9/25 Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>:
> 2010/9/25 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>>> fabien at ...2489...:~/gambas/gb.gtk$ ./configure
>>> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
>>> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
>>> ...
>>> checking for main in -lgcc_s... yes
>>> checking for main in -lstdc++... yes
>>> checking which extension is used for shared libraries... .so
>>> checking for threading compiler options... -D_REENTRANT
>>> checking for threading linker options... -lpthread
>>> checking for mathematic libraries... -lm
>>> checking for external gettext library...
>>> checking for ccache... no
>>> checking CFLAGS for gcc -fvisibility=hidden... ./configure: line 6201:
>>> ac_cv_cflags_gcc_option__fvisibility_hidden=no, unknown: command not
>>> found
>>> ./configure: line 6224:
>>> ac_cv_cflags_gcc_option__fvisibility_hidden=-fvisibility=hidden:
>>> command not found
>>
>> --> Can I have the generated configure file? @#*! What did Ubuntu guys do
>> again???
>>
>> --
>> Beno?t Minisini
>>
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>
>
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-- 
Fabien Bodard



From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 25 18:58:09 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:58:09 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?utf-8?q?I_cant_compile_Gambas=3A_problem_with_?=
 =?utf-8?b?wr9PcGVuR0w/?=
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> mon mail avec configure est bloqu? ...
> 

tar cfz ?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Sep 25 19:16:56 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:16:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user]
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From gambas at ...1...  Sat Sep 25 20:00:40 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:00:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] =?utf-8?q?I_cant_compile_Gambas=3A_problem_with_?=
 =?utf-8?b?wr9PcGVuR0w/?=
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTingmGg-RX8=nS=5y21FV12+Tg5UAb+=JzW9a_B5@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinXBZvO82r=DsEk1pc5wEaLizHAy7LUfLtY2fBh@...627...>
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Message-ID: <201009252000.40376.gambas@...1...>

> the file ...

It seems that there is a bug in the autoconf provided with Maverick. What is 
the autoconf version?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From mohareve at ...626...  Sat Sep 25 21:13:12 2010
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:13:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas2.21 crashes upon MP3 playback
Message-ID: <AANLkTinnhMvEuk0TS_wKgOna9fN_r7ws9OZF_m3ng_ny@...627...>

It happens when I use the provided example project of a music player, when I
change the position of the slider. The same happens n my own project too. It
is a bug. Signal #11 raised.


From gambas.fr at ...626...  Sat Sep 25 22:45:46 2010
From: gambas.fr at ...626... (Fabien Bodard)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:45:46 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user]
	=?iso-8859-1?q?I_cant_compile_Gambas=3A_problem_wit?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?h_=BFOpenGL=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <201009252000.40376.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTinXBZvO82r=DsEk1pc5wEaLizHAy7LUfLtY2fBh@...627...>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTinFxnwg3rMy9rqck=wf+OiOoY6HWK3em-f9+t-n@...627...>

fabien at ...2489...:~$ autoconf --version
autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.67
Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+/Autoconf: GNU GPL version 3 or later
<http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>, <http://gnu.org/licenses/exceptions.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Written by David J. MacKenzie and Akim Demaille.
fabien at ...2489...:~$


2010/9/25 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>:
>> the file ...
>
> It seems that there is a bug in the autoconf provided with Maverick. What is
> the autoconf version?
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
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From doriano.blengino at ...1909...  Sun Sep 26 09:25:12 2010
From: doriano.blengino at ...1909... (Doriano Blengino)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 09:25:12 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb3.settings
In-Reply-To: <4C9E163D.3070900@...221...>
References: <4C9D116A.7030000@...221...>	<AANLkTimcU0=rMi0=dsQRxH+a_4mCCohctTg6HDGcA09a@...627...>
	<4C9E163D.3070900@...221...>
Message-ID: <4C9EF558.7070806@...1909...>

Matti ha scritto:
> You are right, thanks.
>   
But I think that you can create a new instance of gb.settings, 
specifying the file where to write.

Regards,
Doriano


> Am 25.09.2010 13:05, schrieb Fabien Bodard:
>   
>> 2010/9/24 Matti <math.eber at ...221...>:
>>     
>>> All settings seem to be stored in a file
>>> /home/username/.config/gambas3/ApplicationName.conf.
>>> But, if I have projects with the same file name in different locations, like
>>> /home/username/Gambas/test and
>>> /home/username/Basic/test,
>>> the settings are stored in the same file /home/username/.config/gambas3/test.conf.
>>> There is no difference about the directories.
>>> This causes errors.
>>>
>>> To me, it seems better to store the application's settings in the application
>>> directory.
>>>       
>> Not on linux as generally the application are in the /usr/bin
>> directory, where it is forbidden to put any configuration file .
>> Plus , i don't understand the need to hae twice time the same app in
>> different path ... An app need to have a unique name...
>>  /home/username/Gambas/testv1 and
>>  /home/username/Basic/testv2
>>
>> Where testv2 is the next generation of testv1. But to have twice the
>> same app on the same pc... is not usefull... Linux is not windows. If
>> you want to call an app like it is in the needed path then prefer to
>> use a symbolic link
>>
>> ln -s /home/username/Gambas/test /home/username/Basic/test
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Regards
>>> Matti
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
>>> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
>>> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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>>>
>>>       
>>
>>     
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-- 
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"Listen twice before you speak.
This is why we have two ears, but only one mouth."



From girardhenri at ...402...  Sun Sep 26 12:35:31 2010
From: girardhenri at ...402... (Girard Henri)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:35:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] openglai error on maverick
In-Reply-To: <4C9EF558.7070806@...1909...>
References: <4C9D116A.7030000@...221...>
	<AANLkTimcU0=rMi0=dsQRxH+a_4mCCohctTg6HDGcA09a@...627...>
	<4C9E163D.3070900@...221...>  <4C9EF558.7070806@...1909...>
Message-ID: <1285497331.1719.0.camel@...651...>

Solution here :
http://gambaslinux.forumactif.net/gambas-3-svn-f12/probleme-d-installation-de-gambas3-sur-maverick-t275.htm#2711




From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 26 13:14:54 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:14:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] openglai error on maverick
In-Reply-To: <1285497331.1719.0.camel@...651...>
References: <4C9D116A.7030000@...221...> <4C9EF558.7070806@...1909...>
	<1285497331.1719.0.camel@...651...>
Message-ID: <201009261314.54565.gambas@...1...>

> Solution here :
> http://gambaslinux.forumactif.net/gambas-3-svn-f12/probleme-d-installation-
> de-gambas3-sur-maverick-t275.htm#2711
> 

This is more a workaround than a solution.

I think there is a bug somewhere on maverick that prevents the "lai" file to 
be generated, because:

- There is no difference between gb.gtk.opengl configuration files and 
gb.qt4.opengl configuration files. Apparently the second one is installed 
correctly, and not the first one?

- There is already a bug in the autoconf provided with maverick that prevents 
the configure script generated by autoconf (when you type ./reconf) from 
working correctly.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 26 13:23:40 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:23:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] openglai error on maverick
In-Reply-To: <201009261314.54565.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C9D116A.7030000@...221...> <1285497331.1719.0.camel@...651...>
	<201009261314.54565.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <201009261323.40365.gambas@...1...>

> > Solution here :
> > http://gambaslinux.forumactif.net/gambas-3-svn-f12/probleme-d-installatio
> > n- de-gambas3-sur-maverick-t275.htm#2711
> 
> This is more a workaround than a solution.
> 

And by saying "workaround", I am too kind. :-)

You are just spoofing the installation by providing the missing file with a 
symbolic link. But the expected file may be different for sure! 

Hopefully, all the libtool files (*.la, *.lai...) generated for gambas 
components are not used at all by the interpreter, which loads the "*.so" 
files directly.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From lord.quo at ...626...  Sun Sep 26 14:13:22 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Daniel Rojas)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 07:13:22 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Compiling gambas3
Message-ID: <4c9f38d7.013f970a.75cb.ffffc8c9@...2392...>

Thanks Fabien. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Fabien Bodard <gambas.fr at ...626...>
Sent: S?bado, 25 de Septiembre de 2010 06:14
To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Compiling gambas3

it is overwritted

2010/9/24 Lord Quo <lord.quo at ...626...>:
> ? ? ? ?Thanks, but I actually have installed gambas3 revision 31xx, and I
> want to install new revision of gambas3, 3239.
>
> ? ? ? ?Regards.
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Werner [mailto:wdahn at ...1000...]
> Enviado el: Viernes, 24 de Septiembre de 2010 11:38 a.m.
> Para: mailing list for gambas users
> Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Compiling gambas3
>
> On 24/09/10 23:25, Lord Quo wrote:
>> ? ? ? If I download the last revision of gambas3 and I compile and install
>
>> it, I need to uninstall previous version or it is overwrited?
>>
>> ? ? ? My previous version is gambas3 too.
>>
>> ? ? ? Regards.
>>
> If you compiled gambas2 as well it should be ok to have them side by side.
> You can invoke them in a terminal with either gambas2 or gambas3.
>
> Regards
> Werner
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud
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From lord.quo at ...626...  Sun Sep 26 14:17:43 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Daniel Rojas)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 07:17:43 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE :: A proposition to visual optimization
Message-ID: <4c9f39dc.1848960a.39d7.ffffc388@...2392...>

   :-0

   I can't believe the instant response!   You are an incredible team.

-----Original Message-----
From: Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
Sent: S?bado, 25 de Septiembre de 2010 10:30
To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] IDE :: A proposition to visual optimization

> 	Hi Benoit.
> 
> 	When I'm in the IDE and I enter code for a procedure that uses
> several arguments, the miniwindow that appears with help in how to enter
> the arguments (Intellitips?) don't let me see the complete arguments. The
> help shows only one line and the second line is truncatd. I know that my
> english is poor, so, let me explain with the attached image.
> 
> 	Regards.
> 
> Daniel Rojas

The bug should be fixed in revision #3240.

Regards,

-- 
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From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 26 14:24:24 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:24:24 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] IDE :: A proposition to visual optimization
In-Reply-To: <4c9f39dc.1848960a.39d7.ffffc388@...2392...>
References: <4c9f39dc.1848960a.39d7.ffffc388@...2392...>
Message-ID: <201009261424.24148.gambas@...1...>

>    :-0
> 
>    I can't believe the instant response!   You are an incredible team.
> 

...on my own! :-)

It was a bug I've noticed for a long time, and you reminded me of it. Don't 
think it will be always like that. :-)

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From girardhenri at ...402...  Sun Sep 26 14:40:01 2010
From: girardhenri at ...402... (Girard Henri)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:40:01 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] openglai error on maverick
In-Reply-To: <201009261323.40365.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C9D116A.7030000@...221...> <1285497331.1719.0.camel@...651...>
	<201009261314.54565.gambas@...1...>
	<201009261323.40365.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <1285504801.6557.1.camel@...651...>

english is not my mother language : I just send this for those who want
it !
But being blocked with maverick is frustrating and not every one is
expert to "find" a solution...
cordialement

Le dimanche 26 septembre 2010 ? 13:23 +0200, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :
> > > Solution here :
> > > http://gambaslinux.forumactif.net/gambas-3-svn-f12/probleme-d-installatio
> > > n- de-gambas3-sur-maverick-t275.htm#2711
> > 
> > This is more a workaround than a solution.
> > 
> 
> And by saying "workaround", I am too kind. :-)
> 
> You are just spoofing the installation by providing the missing file with a 
> symbolic link. But the expected file may be different for sure! 
> 
> Hopefully, all the libtool files (*.la, *.lai...) generated for gambas 
> components are not used at all by the interpreter, which loads the "*.so" 
> files directly.
> 
> Regards,
> 





From frederic.176 at ...626...  Sun Sep 26 15:52:45 2010
From: frederic.176 at ...626... (Federico Leite)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:52:45 -0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Qt4: Style Sheet
Message-ID: <AANLkTinrOH0ZFvqGPEq-=5w5kofm0dPU7FobG9_-kK0C@...627...>

Hello! Im playing with appearance of Qt programs and
How to use me Qt4 style sheet in gambas application?
-- 
Federico Leite
##############################################
Areida Developer


From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 26 15:59:59 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:59:59 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] openglai error on maverick
In-Reply-To: <1285504801.6557.1.camel@...651...>
References: <4C9D116A.7030000@...221...>
	<201009261323.40365.gambas@...1...>
	<1285504801.6557.1.camel@...651...>
Message-ID: <201009261559.59597.gambas@...1...>

> english is not my mother language : I just send this for those who want
> it !
> But being blocked with maverick is frustrating and not every one is
> expert to "find" a solution...
> cordialement
> 

No problem, I said that just to warn that maybe other unexpected problems may 
arise.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Sun Sep 26 16:43:53 2010
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (EA7DFH)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:43:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Feature request "TODO/FIXME"
Message-ID: <4C9F5C29.4000608@...2382...>

Hi, Beno?t

It would be fine if you could implement a 'tasks system', like in other
IDEs, to keep track of pending tasks or fixes.

For example, if the text editor finds a comment beginning with

' TODO: my stuff
or
' FIXME: fix whatever

then a little icon will shows into the line numbers and an additional
tab in the console/breakpoints tabstrip will lists the current
tasks/fixes text, which also should be marked as done/undone.

This could be made in a way we can inspect globally or per class file.

Hope this make sense, and not a huge job... :-)

Anyway, thanks for your efforts.


-- 
Jesus, EA7DFH



From linuxos at ...1896...  Sun Sep 26 17:13:52 2010
From: linuxos at ...1896... (Olivier Cruilles)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:13:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about date conversion in Gambas v2
Message-ID: <CCC7E9DC-1F27-4834-9B97-21AF520CECC8@...1896...>

Hi Benoit,

I have just a question about the possibility to convert in Gambas v2 a variable in format Date to
a value of this date in number of seconds like in Unix command ?

In my projet i need to use date value in number of seconds and not in standard format as for example this one:  
 not    26-09-2010 17:08:00   but     in seconds  since 1970-01-01 00:00:00  =>  1285513680  seconds

I just want to know if it possible or not in Gambas v2 otherwise I will continue to use the Unix command 'date' ?

Thank in advance,

Olivier Cruilles
Mail: linuxos at ...1896...





From gambas at ...1...  Sun Sep 26 21:36:52 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:36:52 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Feature request "TODO/FIXME"
In-Reply-To: <4C9F5C29.4000608@...2382...>
References: <4C9F5C29.4000608@...2382...>
Message-ID: <201009262136.52544.gambas@...1...>

> Hi, Beno?t
> 
> It would be fine if you could implement a 'tasks system', like in other
> IDEs, to keep track of pending tasks or fixes.
> 
> For example, if the text editor finds a comment beginning with
> 
> ' TODO: my stuff
> or
> ' FIXME: fix whatever
> 
> then a little icon will shows into the line numbers and an additional
> tab in the console/breakpoints tabstrip will lists the current
> tasks/fixes text, which also should be marked as done/undone.
> 
> This could be made in a way we can inspect globally or per class file.
> 
> Hope this make sense, and not a huge job... :-)
> 
> Anyway, thanks for your efforts.

What other keywords are needed, beside TODO and FIXME?

And we can decide that to mark something undone, the comment has just to be 
removed.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Mon Sep 27 00:23:37 2010
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (EA7DFH)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:23:37 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Feature request "TODO/FIXME"
In-Reply-To: <201009262136.52544.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C9F5C29.4000608@...2382...>
	<201009262136.52544.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4C9FC7E9.6000509@...2382...>

El 26/09/10 21:36, Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
>> Hi, Beno?t
>>
>> It would be fine if you could implement a 'tasks system', like in other
>> IDEs, to keep track of pending tasks or fixes.
>>
>> For example, if the text editor finds a comment beginning with
>>
>> ' TODO: my stuff
>> or
>> ' FIXME: fix whatever
>>
>> then a little icon will shows into the line numbers and an additional
>> tab in the console/breakpoints tabstrip will lists the current
>> tasks/fixes text, which also should be marked as done/undone.
>>
>> This could be made in a way we can inspect globally or per class file.
>>
>> Hope this make sense, and not a huge job... :-)
>>
>> Anyway, thanks for your efforts.
> 
> What other keywords are needed, beside TODO and FIXME?

No, nothing more is needed. Both keywords are widely used as an standard
for that purpose in almost all code editors.

> 
> And we can decide that to mark something undone, the comment has just to be 
> removed.
> 

I don't understand very well your last sentence. Perhaps are you being a
bit ironical? Sorry if I am mistaken.

Really, what do you think about it? Is it feasible or not?

Regards,

-- 
Jesus, EA7DFH



From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 27 00:29:06 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:29:06 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Feature request "TODO/FIXME"
In-Reply-To: <4C9FC7E9.6000509@...2382...>
References: <4C9F5C29.4000608@...2382...>
	<201009262136.52544.gambas@...1...>
	<4C9FC7E9.6000509@...2382...>
Message-ID: <201009270029.07174.gambas@...1...>

> El 26/09/10 21:36, Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
> >> Hi, Beno?t
> >> 
> >> It would be fine if you could implement a 'tasks system', like in other
> >> IDEs, to keep track of pending tasks or fixes.
> >> 
> >> For example, if the text editor finds a comment beginning with
> >> 
> >> ' TODO: my stuff
> >> or
> >> ' FIXME: fix whatever
> >> 
> >> then a little icon will shows into the line numbers and an additional
> >> tab in the console/breakpoints tabstrip will lists the current
> >> tasks/fixes text, which also should be marked as done/undone.
> >> 
> >> This could be made in a way we can inspect globally or per class file.
> >> 
> >> Hope this make sense, and not a huge job... :-)
> >> 
> >> Anyway, thanks for your efforts.
> > 
> > What other keywords are needed, beside TODO and FIXME?
> 
> No, nothing more is needed. Both keywords are widely used as an standard
> for that purpose in almost all code editors.
> 
> > And we can decide that to mark something undone, the comment has just to
> > be removed.
> 
> I don't understand very well your last sentence. Perhaps are you being a
> bit ironical? Sorry if I am mistaken.

I'm not ironical, but logical. If a comment with "TODO" inside means that 
there is something to do, when removing it means that the thing is done.

> 
> Really, what do you think about it? Is it feasible or not?

Yes, but it cannot be real-time I think.

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From mohareve at ...626...  Mon Sep 27 11:05:42 2010
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:05:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Logical error in Gambas2.21
Message-ID: <AANLkTimd-BnB74eXVwrS4vy1fud1e3Lw7ShgZxEgxNzp@...627...>

PUBLIC SUB MaxFind(tomb AS String[], minta AS String) AS Integer ' A
function in Archs module that finds the highest index in the array tomb
which contains minta
DIM supst AS String[]
DIM mfind AS Integer = -1
DIM cel AS Integer
supst = NEW String[]
supst = tomb
WHILE supst.Find(minta) <> -1
cel = supst.Find(minta)
mfind = cel
IF cel >= 0 THEN
    supst[cel] = "~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"
ENDIF
WEND
supst.Clear
RETURN mfind
END


----------------------
'This is the problematic part: when the Arch.MaxFind() returns -1 the block
is executed and the program crashes, since an array could not have index -1.
But it means for Gambas even if -1>-1 is FALSE the block is executed!

IF Archs.MaxFind(temporal, telem) > -1 THEN
j = Archs.MaxFind(temporal, telem)
IF temporalpath[j] <> tut THEN
temporal.Add(telem)
temporalpath.Add(tut)
 ENDIF
ENDIF


From mohareve at ...626...  Mon Sep 27 11:15:54 2010
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:15:54 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Logical error in Gambas2.21
Message-ID: <AANLkTinAFCAtA2Nm5y7qqdB2V3=bWAT6zUgC2x1ZVQWw@...627...>

PUBLIC SUB MaxFind(tomb AS String[], minta AS String) AS Integer ' A
function in Archs module that finds the highest index in the array tomb
which contains minta
DIM supst AS String[]
DIM mfind AS Integer = -1
DIM cel AS Integer
supst = NEW String[]
supst = tomb
WHILE supst.Find(minta) <> -1
cel = supst.Find(minta)
mfind = cel
IF cel >= 0 THEN
    supst[cel] = "~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"
ENDIF
WEND
supst.Clear
RETURN mfind
END


----------------------
'This is the problematic part: when the Arch.MaxFind() returns -1 the block
is executed and the program crashes, since an array could not have index -1.
But it means for Gambas even if -1>-1 is FALSE the block is executed!

IF Archs.MaxFind(temporal, telem) > -1 THEN
j = Archs.MaxFind(temporal, telem)
IF temporalpath[j] <> tut THEN
temporal.Add(telem)
temporalpath.Add(tut)
 ENDIF
ENDIF


From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 27 11:23:21 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:23:21 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Logical error in Gambas2.21
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinAFCAtA2Nm5y7qqdB2V3=bWAT6zUgC2x1ZVQWw@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinAFCAtA2Nm5y7qqdB2V3=bWAT6zUgC2x1ZVQWw@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009271123.21139.gambas@...1...>

> PUBLIC SUB MaxFind(tomb AS String[], minta AS String) AS Integer ' A
> function in Archs module that finds the highest index in the array tomb
> which contains minta
> DIM supst AS String[]
> DIM mfind AS Integer = -1
> DIM cel AS Integer
> supst = NEW String[]
> supst = tomb
> WHILE supst.Find(minta) <> -1
> cel = supst.Find(minta)
> mfind = cel
> IF cel >= 0 THEN
>     supst[cel] = "~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"
> ENDIF
> WEND
> supst.Clear
> RETURN mfind
> END
> 
> 
> ----------------------
> 'This is the problematic part: when the Arch.MaxFind() returns -1 the block
> is executed and the program crashes, since an array could not have index
> -1. But it means for Gambas even if -1>-1 is FALSE the block is executed!
> 
> IF Archs.MaxFind(temporal, telem) > -1 THEN
> j = Archs.MaxFind(temporal, telem)
> IF temporalpath[j] <> tut THEN
> temporal.Add(telem)
> temporalpath.Add(tut)
>  ENDIF
> ENDIF

I suggest that you debug your program step by step, to understand the code you 
have written.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From ea7dfh at ...2382...  Mon Sep 27 19:26:00 2010
From: ea7dfh at ...2382... (EA7DFH)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:26:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Feature request "TODO/FIXME"
In-Reply-To: <201009270029.07174.gambas@...1...>
References: <4C9F5C29.4000608@...2382...>	<201009262136.52544.gambas@...1...>	<4C9FC7E9.6000509@...2382...>
	<201009270029.07174.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4CA0D3A8.5000005@...2382...>

El 27/09/10 00:29, Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
>> El 26/09/10 21:36, Beno?t Minisini escribi?:
>>>> Hi, Beno?t
>>>>
>>>> It would be fine if you could implement a 'tasks system', like in other
>>>> IDEs, to keep track of pending tasks or fixes.
>>>>
>>>> For example, if the text editor finds a comment beginning with
>>>>
>>>> ' TODO: my stuff
>>>> or
>>>> ' FIXME: fix whatever
>>>>
>>>> then a little icon will shows into the line numbers and an additional
>>>> tab in the console/breakpoints tabstrip will lists the current
>>>> tasks/fixes text, which also should be marked as done/undone.
>>>>
>>>> This could be made in a way we can inspect globally or per class file.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this make sense, and not a huge job... :-)
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, thanks for your efforts.
>>>
>>> What other keywords are needed, beside TODO and FIXME?
>>
>> No, nothing more is needed. Both keywords are widely used as an standard
>> for that purpose in almost all code editors.
>>
>>> And we can decide that to mark something undone, the comment has just to
>>> be removed.
>>
>> I don't understand very well your last sentence. Perhaps are you being a
>> bit ironical? Sorry if I am mistaken.
> 
> I'm not ironical, but logical. If a comment with "TODO" inside means that 
> there is something to do, when removing it means that the thing is done.

Of course, that is. Sometimes English is confusing me, because it is not
my native language.

> 
>>
>> Really, what do you think about it? Is it feasible or not?
> 
> Yes, but it cannot be real-time I think.
> 

I understand... perhaps just after saving the current document (class),
it needs to be parsed again. Since when we launch the debug or compile
process it is saved automatically, this could be a good chance.

Regards,

-- 
Jesus, EA7DFH



From mohareve at ...626...  Mon Sep 27 20:29:25 2010
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:29:25 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Feature request: optional packages
Message-ID: <AANLkTinbTrEv2LWHBCh2o168u6xy3Yg4V6cdZT3m28zB@...627...>

I'd like to see an option during packaging to add external packages as
dependencies. It could be done with or without version number (only package
name).


From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 27 20:34:53 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:34:53 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Feature request: optional packages
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinbTrEv2LWHBCh2o168u6xy3Yg4V6cdZT3m28zB@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinbTrEv2LWHBCh2o168u6xy3Yg4V6cdZT3m28zB@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009272034.53159.gambas@...1...>

> I'd like to see an option during packaging to add external packages as
> dependencies. It could be done with or without version number (only package
> name).

This is done in Gambas 3.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From mohareve at ...626...  Mon Sep 27 20:39:44 2010
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:39:44 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Feature request: optional packages
In-Reply-To: <201009272034.53159.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTinbTrEv2LWHBCh2o168u6xy3Yg4V6cdZT3m28zB@...627...>
	<201009272034.53159.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=1+iWyXH2YvP+u=8wxqrYiYvug9mhgGQcQ+r91@...627...>

When will be the change to version 3.00? Will the 2.xx projects be
compatible with it?


From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 27 20:43:55 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:43:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Feature request: optional packages
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=1+iWyXH2YvP+u=8wxqrYiYvug9mhgGQcQ+r91@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinbTrEv2LWHBCh2o168u6xy3Yg4V6cdZT3m28zB@...627...>
	<201009272034.53159.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTi=1+iWyXH2YvP+u=8wxqrYiYvug9mhgGQcQ+r91@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009272043.55780.gambas@...1...>

> When will be the change to version 3.00? 

I try to make a release candidate before the end of the year.

> Will the 2.xx projects be
> compatible with it?

No. You have to change things. But no so many. For example the documentation 
website is based on a CGI script written with the Gambas 3 IDE, and run by the 
1.9.27 gambas interpreter!

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Mon Sep 27 20:44:42 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:44:42 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about date conversion in Gambas v2
In-Reply-To: <CCC7E9DC-1F27-4834-9B97-21AF520CECC8@...1896...>
References: <CCC7E9DC-1F27-4834-9B97-21AF520CECC8@...1896...>
Message-ID: <201009272044.42086.gambas@...1...>

> Hi Benoit,
> 
> I have just a question about the possibility to convert in Gambas v2 a
> variable in format Date to a value of this date in number of seconds like
> in Unix command ?
> 
> In my projet i need to use date value in number of seconds and not in
> standard format as for example this one: not    26-09-2010 17:08:00   but 
>    in seconds  since 1970-01-01 00:00:00  =>  1285513680  seconds
> 
> I just want to know if it possible or not in Gambas v2 otherwise I will
> continue to use the Unix command 'date' ?
> 
> Thank in advance,
> 
> Olivier Cruilles
> Mail: linuxos at ...1896...
> 

Dates are internally stored as a number of seconds and microseconds from a 
Gambas epoch (which is not the Unix epoch), in GMT. 

When converted to Float, you get a number of days as integer part, and the 
rest as decimal part.

So, if you need a unix timestamp, i.e. a number of seconds since epoch, you 
just have to do that:

Print Int((CFloat(now) - CFloat(Date(1970, 1, 1))) * 86400)

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From mohareve at ...626...  Mon Sep 27 20:52:45 2010
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:52:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Feature request: optional packages
In-Reply-To: <201009272043.55780.gambas@...1...>
References: <AANLkTinbTrEv2LWHBCh2o168u6xy3Yg4V6cdZT3m28zB@...627...>
	<201009272034.53159.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTi=1+iWyXH2YvP+u=8wxqrYiYvug9mhgGQcQ+r91@...627...>
	<201009272043.55780.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikPfoO0DtrmwYFxFdv+PRqr2nadF-dGWfY27oBb@...627...>

Thanks! I hope there will be few changes with the existing code.

2010/9/27 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>

> > When will be the change to version 3.00?
>
> I try to make a release candidate before the end of the year.
>
> > Will the 2.xx projects be
> > compatible with it?
>
> No. You have to change things. But no so many. For example the
> documentation
> website is based on a CGI script written with the Gambas 3 IDE, and run by
> the
> 1.9.27 gambas interpreter!
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Mon Sep 27 20:52:14 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (tobias)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:52:14 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] ME.Height and Menus
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinrOH0ZFvqGPEq-=5w5kofm0dPU7FobG9_-kK0C@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinrOH0ZFvqGPEq-=5w5kofm0dPU7FobG9_-kK0C@...627...>
Message-ID: <4CA0E7DE.1060602@...20...>

Good evening,

i never had to use menues in my programs, but now i have to reproduce a 
program written in delphi for our ubuntu computers at school, only for 
education purposes (the program was also written by students, don't 
worry ;)). this program has a menue and a simple textarea just under it 
and i want to arrange the contents dynamically using the Form_Resize() 
event. if i do TextArea1.Move(0, 0, ME.Width, ME.Heigth), the textarea 
is just a bit too big for the form and this doesn't look very well. if i 
set the menue to unvisible, all works properly. i now thought that i 
just can PRINT ME.Height; " "; TextArea1.Height
and look up the difference to get the menue's height as a constant but 
they are equal, so what's wrong with it?

regards,
tobi



From jussi.lahtinen at ...626...  Mon Sep 27 21:14:18 2010
From: jussi.lahtinen at ...626... (Jussi Lahtinen)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:14:18 +0300
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about date conversion in Gambas v2
In-Reply-To: <201009272044.42086.gambas@...1...>
References: <CCC7E9DC-1F27-4834-9B97-21AF520CECC8@...1896...>
	<201009272044.42086.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikz327LOtsLxbhaMbT4AmyKEuAOtV4KKOQN8QKe@...627...>

Or use shell with "date +%s".

Jussi


2010/9/27 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>

> > Hi Benoit,
> >
> > I have just a question about the possibility to convert in Gambas v2 a
> > variable in format Date to a value of this date in number of seconds like
> > in Unix command ?
> >
> > In my projet i need to use date value in number of seconds and not in
> > standard format as for example this one: not    26-09-2010 17:08:00   but
> >    in seconds  since 1970-01-01 00:00:00  =>  1285513680  seconds
> >
> > I just want to know if it possible or not in Gambas v2 otherwise I will
> > continue to use the Unix command 'date' ?
> >
> > Thank in advance,
> >
> > Olivier Cruilles
> > Mail: linuxos at ...1896...
> >
>
> Dates are internally stored as a number of seconds and microseconds from a
> Gambas epoch (which is not the Unix epoch), in GMT.
>
> When converted to Float, you get a number of days as integer part, and the
> rest as decimal part.
>
> So, if you need a unix timestamp, i.e. a number of seconds since epoch, you
> just have to do that:
>
> Print Int((CFloat(now) - CFloat(Date(1970, 1, 1))) * 86400)
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Beno?t Minisini
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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From linuxos at ...1896...  Mon Sep 27 21:16:55 2010
From: linuxos at ...1896... (Olivier Cruilles)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:16:55 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Question about date conversion in Gambas v2
In-Reply-To: <201009272044.42086.gambas@...1...>
References: <CCC7E9DC-1F27-4834-9B97-21AF520CECC8@...1896...>
	<201009272044.42086.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <6A26D6BB-B643-4A2F-A9B7-AD45F657BC24@...1896...>

Thank's Benoit,

It's exactly that I need.

Olivier

Le 27 sept. 2010 ? 20:44, Beno?t Minisini a ?crit :

>> Hi Benoit,
>> 
>> I have just a question about the possibility to convert in Gambas v2 a
>> variable in format Date to a value of this date in number of seconds like
>> in Unix command ?
>> 
>> In my projet i need to use date value in number of seconds and not in
>> standard format as for example this one: not    26-09-2010 17:08:00   but 
>>   in seconds  since 1970-01-01 00:00:00  =>  1285513680  seconds
>> 
>> I just want to know if it possible or not in Gambas v2 otherwise I will
>> continue to use the Unix command 'date' ?
>> 
>> Thank in advance,
>> 
>> Olivier Cruilles
>> Mail: linuxos at ...1896...
>> 
> 
> Dates are internally stored as a number of seconds and microseconds from a 
> Gambas epoch (which is not the Unix epoch), in GMT. 
> 
> When converted to Float, you get a number of days as integer part, and the 
> rest as decimal part.
> 
> So, if you need a unix timestamp, i.e. a number of seconds since epoch, you 
> just have to do that:
> 
> Print Int((CFloat(now) - CFloat(Date(1970, 1, 1))) * 86400)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Beno?t Minisini
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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Olivier Cruilles
Mail: linuxos at ...1896...





From math.eber at ...221...  Mon Sep 27 22:06:23 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:06:23 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Form.ShowModal in Gambas3
Message-ID: <4CA0F93F.3010304@...221...>

I have problems with modal forms (OpenSuse, qt4 here).
There always can be done something with them that leads to trouble.
See example.

If I can handle these things by "implementing the event handler", please tell me
how to. :-)

Regards
Matti
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From lord.quo at ...626...  Mon Sep 27 23:34:46 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:34:46 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 :: Method signature and documentation
Message-ID: <003901cb5e8b$d0616520$71242f60$@gmail.com>

            Hi all again.

 

I developed a component, which I included him documentation with the double
quotes '':

 

'' +Description

'' Initialize a web browser view with the help on a specific symbol.

'' +Arguments

'' - #hWebView# is the WebView control to initialize.

 

I created the executable and then I did another project where I included
this component (Project - Properties - Libraries).

 

The problem I have is that the help of my classes doesn't appears, and only
says:

 

/comp/excelxmlgenerator.gambas/workbook/worksheets

 

The documentation page is not available

 

And when I use a method of any class, the method signature (Bug fixed in
revision 3241) doesn't appears to.

 

I put the component executable in a subfolder of my home path. It's correct?

 

I use the Export keyword to make classes visible, I set the "project is a
component" combo-box to "yes".

 

I need to do something else?

 

Thanks.



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 28 00:38:00 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 00:38:00 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 :: Method signature and documentation
In-Reply-To: <003901cb5e8b$d0616520$71242f60$@gmail.com>
References: <003901cb5e8b$d0616520$71242f60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201009280038.00086.gambas@...1...>

>             Hi all again.
> 
> 
> 
> I developed a component, which I included him documentation with the double
> quotes '':
> 
> 
> 
> '' +Description
> 
> '' Initialize a web browser view with the help on a specific symbol.
> 
> '' +Arguments
> 
> '' - #hWebView# is the WebView control to initialize.
> 
> 
> 
> I created the executable and then I did another project where I included
> this component (Project - Properties - Libraries).
> 
> 
> 
> The problem I have is that the help of my classes doesn't appears, and only
> says:
> 
> 
> 
> /comp/excelxmlgenerator.gambas/workbook/worksheets
> 
> 
> 
> The documentation page is not available
> 

Yep, this is something that has not been implemented I think. Sort of a bug...

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From lord.quo at ...626...  Tue Sep 28 01:01:12 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:01:12 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 :: Method signature and documentation
In-Reply-To: <201009280038.00086.gambas@...1...>
References: <003901cb5e8b$d0616520$71242f60$@gmail.com>
	<201009280038.00086.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <004f01cb5e97$e276a4d0$a763ee70$@gmail.com>

	Ok, don't worry, I think I'll need to wait for the implementation or the correction   :-)

	But the another strange thing is that the method signature (Bug fixed in revision 3241) doesn?t appears   :-(

	Regards.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini [mailto:gambas at ...1...] 
Enviado el: Lunes, 27 de Septiembre de 2010 05:38 p.m.
Para: mailing list for gambas users
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 :: Method signature and documentation

>             Hi all again.
> 
> 
> 
> I developed a component, which I included him documentation with the 
> double quotes '':
> 
> 
> 
> '' +Description
> 
> '' Initialize a web browser view with the help on a specific symbol.
> 
> '' +Arguments
> 
> '' - #hWebView# is the WebView control to initialize.
> 
> 
> 
> I created the executable and then I did another project where I 
> included this component (Project - Properties - Libraries).
> 
> 
> 
> The problem I have is that the help of my classes doesn't appears, and 
> only
> says:
> 
> 
> 
> /comp/excelxmlgenerator.gambas/workbook/worksheets
> 
> 
> 
> The documentation page is not available
> 

Yep, this is something that has not been implemented I think. Sort of a bug...

--
Beno?t Minisini

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From kevinfishburne at ...1887...  Tue Sep 28 04:30:34 2010
From: kevinfishburne at ...1887... (kevinfishburne)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:30:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Gambas-user] gb2: having same project open twice and code saving
Message-ID: <29824888.post@...1379...>


The project I'm working on has a client module and server module, with shared
modules/procedures/variables between the two. The user chooses the mode from
a GUI upon running it. Consequently I have it running in client mode on bare
metal and server mode in a virtual machine with a separate IP address. The
project files are accessed from both IDE instances over an NFS share.

I've also noticed that GAMBAS will occasionally autosave, and sometimes
warns that the project is already open, but not always. My questions are:

1) Why does GAMBAS only sometimes warn that the project is already open, but
not always?

2) Under what conditions does GAMBAS autosave a project?

3) When clicking "Save Project" from the File menu, does it save everything
or just what it thinks has been modified?

4) What behavior should I expect with regard to the project files being
modified unpredictably by having it opened twice simultaneously?

I could separate the client and server into two projects, but this would
produce duplicate code or otherwise fundamental changes in the code
structure.

Finally I think it would be useful to address this specific scenario as a
feature addition perhaps in GAMBAS 3. It would be nice if GAMBAS could be
made aware of a single project being run and edited on multiple networked
machines so that it stayed synchronized, regardless of which machine the
project was being edited from.

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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 28 06:54:48 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 06:54:48 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 :: Method signature and documentation
In-Reply-To: <004f01cb5e97$e276a4d0$a763ee70$@gmail.com>
References: <003901cb5e8b$d0616520$71242f60$@gmail.com>
	<201009280038.00086.gambas@...1...>
	<004f01cb5e97$e276a4d0$a763ee70$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201009280654.48819.gambas@...1...>

> 	Ok, don't worry, I think I'll need to wait for the implementation or the
> correction   :-)
> 
> 	But the another strange thing is that the method signature (Bug fixed in
> revision 3241) doesn?t appears   :-(
> 

What do you mean by that?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 28 07:03:31 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:03:31 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Form.ShowModal in Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <4CA0F93F.3010304@...221...>
References: <4CA0F93F.3010304@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009280703.31924.gambas@...1...>

> I have problems with modal forms (OpenSuse, qt4 here).
> There always can be done something with them that leads to trouble.
> See example.
> 
> If I can handle these things by "implementing the event handler", please
> tell me how to. :-)
> 
> Regards
> Matti

For the first problem, it does not make sense to have a modal "utility" 
window. "Utility" windows are there for creating non-modal toolbars.

So it can explain the weird behaviour of the window manager.

For the second problem, I will investigate.

Regards,

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From lord.quo at ...626...  Tue Sep 28 16:54:31 2010
From: lord.quo at ...626... (Lord Quo)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:54:31 -0500
Subject: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 :: Method signature and documentation
In-Reply-To: <201009280654.48819.gambas@...1...>
References: <003901cb5e8b$d0616520$71242f60$@gmail.com>
	<201009280038.00086.gambas@...1...>
	<004f01cb5e97$e276a4d0$a763ee70$@gmail.com>
	<201009280654.48819.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <005401cb5f1d$106d7410$31485c30$@gmail.com>

	:-)   You put me in troubles because of my little english

	I have a class with a method, this method has 8 arguments. Whe I use that method, the mini window that appears says me wath argument I am coding. This mini window was corrected in revision 3241 "* BUG: Method signature can be displayed on several lines if needed.". I put this only for reference.

	When I use my method on a test form, the mini window with method signature appears correctly, no problem, but...

	I compiled my component and make an executable and then I create a new project and I use my compiled class and the project runs correctly, but the mini window doesn't appears when I use any method on any class of my component.

	The mini window or method signature to wich I refer is showed in the jpg I atached.

	Thanks.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Beno?t Minisini [mailto:gambas at ...1...] 
Enviado el: Lunes, 27 de Septiembre de 2010 11:55 p.m.
Para: mailing list for gambas users
Asunto: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas3 :: Method signature and documentation

> 	Ok, don't worry, I think I'll need to wait for the implementation or the
> correction   :-)
> 
> 	But the another strange thing is that the method signature (Bug fixed in
> revision 3241) doesn?t appears   :-(
> 

What do you mean by that?

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From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 28 19:05:26 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:05:26 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Form.ShowModal in Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <201009280703.31924.gambas@...1...>
References: <4CA0F93F.3010304@...221...>
	<201009280703.31924.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <201009281905.26215.gambas@...1...>

> > I have problems with modal forms (OpenSuse, qt4 here).
> > There always can be done something with them that leads to trouble.
> > See example.
> > 
> > If I can handle these things by "implementing the event handler", please
> > tell me how to. :-)
> > 
> > Regards
> > Matti
> 
> For the first problem, it does not make sense to have a modal "utility"
> window. "Utility" windows are there for creating non-modal toolbars.
> 
> So it can explain the weird behaviour of the window manager.
> 
> For the second problem, I will investigate.
> 
> Regards,

Is it better with revision #3246?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 28 19:10:04 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:10:04 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Error after project is compiled
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGP9AtnUSv6PSJhz6n=XQHx300FxKB=J_wrkts@...627...>
References: <AANLkTinEf6Zh_mKSdfAEJUxoFhsOvG3St_dA5jhegfs5@...627...>
	<201009210330.31677.gambas@...1...>
	<AANLkTinGP9AtnUSv6PSJhz6n=XQHx300FxKB=J_wrkts@...627...>
Message-ID: <201009281910.04456.gambas@...1...>

> 2010/9/20 Beno?t Minisini <gambas at ...1...>
> ...
> 
> > Send your project.
> 
> Attached.

I have no problem at all with running the executable. Can you send me the full 
output of the compilation & installation of gambas on your machine ?

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From math.eber at ...221...  Tue Sep 28 20:43:56 2010
From: math.eber at ...221... (Matti)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:43:56 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Form.ShowModal in Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <201009281905.26215.gambas@...1...>
References: <4CA0F93F.3010304@...221...>	<201009280703.31924.gambas@...1...>
	<201009281905.26215.gambas@...1...>
Message-ID: <4CA2376C.2060606@...221...>

Seems to be ok now, example works fine.
I will have an eye on it and tell you if I encounter new problems.

btw: Why has a modal window a Minimize button at all?
I always thought that "modal" means the user has to do something, and no other
action is allowed?



Am 28.09.2010 19:05, schrieb Beno?t Minisini:

> 
> Is it better with revision #3246?
> 



From gambas at ...1...  Tue Sep 28 23:55:20 2010
From: gambas at ...1... (=?utf-8?q?Beno=C3=AEt_Minisini?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:55:20 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Form.ShowModal in Gambas3
In-Reply-To: <4CA2376C.2060606@...221...>
References: <4CA0F93F.3010304@...221...>
	<201009281905.26215.gambas@...1...>
	<4CA2376C.2060606@...221...>
Message-ID: <201009282355.20555.gambas@...1...>

> Seems to be ok now, example works fine.
> I will have an eye on it and tell you if I encounter new problems.
> 
> btw: Why has a modal window a Minimize button at all?
> I always thought that "modal" means the user has to do something, and no
> other action is allowed?
> 

Because you are not on Windows. The window manager manages the window 
decorations, and so it does not care how the application manages the events of 
its windows (modal or not modal).

-- 
Beno?t Minisini



From vikramshankarnair at ...2484...  Wed Sep 29 07:36:32 2010
From: vikramshankarnair at ...2484... (vikramshankarnair at ...2484...)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:06:32 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Gambas-user] Labels getting truncated
Message-ID: <20889.10.0.0.4.1285738592.squirrel@...2486...>




Hi,
First of all I would like to
thank all the wonderfully helpful people on this mailing list. I am working on a
Live Installer for Debian & its derivatives based on Gambas and have
received some very useful & timely help here. 
I
am running into a peculiar issue with one of the forms(Partition Options form)
on the installer,? It's got 3 radio buttons, two of which are visible, their
Text gets truncated, I tried stretching the radio buttons so that the Text is
visible, however this doesn't make any difference. The only solution I have
managed to find so far is to delete and then import the form into the project.
However, this too is temporary as the same issue crops up after sometime.
This link contains an image of the form like it should be,
i.e., with full Text being displayed on the RadioButtons -
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9595/2partitioningoptions.jpg . This link shows
the form with the truncated text -
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9229/partitionoptionstrunc.png
The project source can be downloaded from http://code.google.com/p/bossliveinstaller/

I am running Gambas2.7, which is in debian Lenny's Repositories.

Thanks & Regards,
Vikram
Shankar Nair


From mohareve at ...626...  Wed Sep 29 21:53:27 2010
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:53:27 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Is it possible to create .DEB packages from Fedora?
Message-ID: <AANLkTink1NzeJgVcFvYtuPvHACEeqpsNaOSnWaMySHUr@...627...>

I'd like to move to Fedora, but I won't do it without knowing whether I'll
be able to create gambas2 project packages for Debian based distributions.
Is it solved in Fedora?

Thanks!

Csaba


From tobiasboe1 at ...20...  Wed Sep 29 22:12:36 2010
From: tobiasboe1 at ...20... (tobias)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:12:36 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Is it possible to create .DEB packages from
	Fedora?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTink1NzeJgVcFvYtuPvHACEeqpsNaOSnWaMySHUr@...627...>
References: <AANLkTink1NzeJgVcFvYtuPvHACEeqpsNaOSnWaMySHUr@...627...>
Message-ID: <4CA39DB4.8080901@...20...>

hi,

> I'd like to move to Fedora, but I won't do it without knowing whether I'll
> be able to create gambas2 project packages for Debian based distributions.
> Is it solved in Fedora?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Csaba

well, i use ubuntu and if i click on "make installation package", next 
to executable tool button, a .deb is created after some steps.

regards,
tobi



From matteo.pasotti at ...626...  Wed Sep 29 23:06:02 2010
From: matteo.pasotti at ...626... (Matteo Pasotti)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:06:02 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Is it possible to create .DEB packages from
	Fedora?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTink1NzeJgVcFvYtuPvHACEeqpsNaOSnWaMySHUr@...627...>
References: <AANLkTink1NzeJgVcFvYtuPvHACEeqpsNaOSnWaMySHUr@...627...>
Message-ID: <4CA3AA3A.1080400@...626...>

Il 29/09/2010 21:53, M. Cs. ha scritto:
> I'd like to move to Fedora, but I won't do it without knowing whether I'll
> be able to create gambas2 project packages for Debian based distributions.
> Is it solved in Fedora?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Csaba
>    
Currently I'm using Fedora 12 and I solved this problem using a virtual 
machine with ubuntu and gambas2 :-(
You can try otherwise with alien, but it's not always a good choice, AFAIK.
Regards,

-- 
Matteo




From linuxos at ...1896...  Thu Sep 30 07:56:03 2010
From: linuxos at ...1896... (Olivier Cruilles)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 07:56:03 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Is it possible to create .DEB packages from
	Fedora?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTink1NzeJgVcFvYtuPvHACEeqpsNaOSnWaMySHUr@...627...>
References: <AANLkTink1NzeJgVcFvYtuPvHACEeqpsNaOSnWaMySHUr@...627...>
Message-ID: <588C2AD2-130A-4DE2-A95B-8391A53E1D54@...1896...>

hi,

It's possible to install all necessary on Fedora to create .deb package from Gambas2 IDE
but to check if the package have no problem on real Debian distribution it better to test it after 
on virtual machine or a reel computer installed with Debian system.


Le 29 sept. 2010 ? 21:53, M. Cs. a ?crit :

> 
> I'd like to move to Fedora, but I won't do it without knowing whether I'll
> be able to create gambas2 project packages for Debian based distributions.
> Is it solved in Fedora?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Csaba
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
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> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
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> 

Olivier Cruilles
Mail: linuxos at ...1896...





From mohareve at ...626...  Thu Sep 30 10:56:45 2010
From: mohareve at ...626... (M. Cs.)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:56:45 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Is it possible to create .DEB packages from
	Fedora?
In-Reply-To: <588C2AD2-130A-4DE2-A95B-8391A53E1D54@...1896...>
References: <AANLkTink1NzeJgVcFvYtuPvHACEeqpsNaOSnWaMySHUr@...627...>
	<588C2AD2-130A-4DE2-A95B-8391A53E1D54@...1896...>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikGoXzONkrS1xcxOPdr8byRoG-J_Srz5M5o_n-E@...627...>

2010/9/30 Olivier Cruilles <linuxos at ...1896...>

> hi,
>
> It's possible to install all necessary on Fedora to create .deb package
> from Gambas2 IDE
> but to check if the package have no problem on real Debian distribution it
> better to test it after
> on virtual machine or a reel computer installed with Debian system.
>
>
> Le 29 sept. 2010 ? 21:53, M. Cs. a ?crit :
>
> >
> > I'd like to move to Fedora, but I won't do it without knowing whether
> I'll
> > be able to create gambas2 project packages for Debian based
> distributions.
> > Is it solved in Fedora?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Csaba
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> > and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> > accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gambas-user mailing list
> > Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
> >
>
> Olivier Cruilles
> Mail: linuxos at ...1896...
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances
> and start using them to simplify application deployment and
> accelerate your shift to cloud computing.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Gambas-user mailing list
> Gambas-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
>

Could you just tell me how to do that? I mean, if you're already doing it on
Fedora it's simple to give us all a short HowTo. It would help to Matteo
too.

Thank you very much!

Csaba


From matteo.pasotti at ...626...  Thu Sep 30 12:55:40 2010
From: matteo.pasotti at ...626... (Matteo Pasotti)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:55:40 +0200
Subject: [Gambas-user] Is it possible to create .DEB packages
	from	Fedora?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikGoXzONkrS1xcxOPdr8byRoG-J_Srz5M5o_n-E@...627...>
References: <AANLkTink1NzeJgVcFvYtuPvHACEeqpsNaOSnWaMySHUr@...627...>	<588C2AD2-130A-4DE2-A95B-8391A53E1D54@...1896...>
	<AANLkTikGoXzONkrS1xcxOPdr8byRoG-J_Srz5M5o_n-E@...627...>
Message-ID: <4CA46CAC.9020806@...626...>

Il 30/09/2010 10:56, M. Cs. ha scritto:
> 2010/9/30 Olivier Cruilles<linuxos at ...1896...>
>
>    
>> hi,
>>
>> It's possible to install all necessary on Fedora to create .deb package
>> from Gambas2 IDE
>> but to check if the package have no problem on real Debian distribution it
>> better to test it after
>> on virtual machine or a reel computer installed with Debian system.
>>      
> Could you just tell me how to do that? I mean, if you're already doing it on
> Fedora it's simple to give us all a short HowTo. It would help to Matteo
> too.
>    
I agree ;-)
> Thank you very much!
>
> Csaba
>
>    
Another way that I haven't found so comfortable, uses debootstrap rather 
than a virtualization system. But this solution doesn't allow to build 
packages directly from the gambas ide.
Currently if you install dpkg-devel and dpkg from the fedora's repos, 
you are not able to build debian packages using the gambas ide.
Regards,

-- 
Matteo